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The Bobby Bones Show
25W: Bobby's Reaction to UFC Fighters Son Going Viral for Violent Beatdown + CBS Sports Reporter Brandon Marcello on Texas-Ohio State + Top 10 Hardest Positions in All of Sports
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Bobby Bones
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Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
Will Friedle from Pod Meets World.
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Danielle Fishel
We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content.
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere.
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Brandon Marcelo
Of course, we joke and say this is our second marriage, but it takes a lot of communication.
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Danielle Fishel
Plus, it's Carrot Top, baby.
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Will Friedle
And finally, Ashley Simpson Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency. Listen to Pod Meets world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan
I'm Dan. He's Ty.
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Bobby Bones
Hello.
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Dan
And we're the solid verbal college football podcast.
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Bobby Bones
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Dan
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Bobby Bones
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Dan
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Bobby Bones
This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking Football.
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Will Friedle
And they all wear a whistle.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. Hey, welcome to the show. But everybody's here. We got a lot to talk about. We're going to talk to Brandon Marcelo coming up, who is my favorite college football analyst commentator. He's now going to be working the sidelines on camera. He's killing it. Let's hit the whistle. Thank you. Now, there is no Eddie for this part. We recorded a part earlier, but Eddie had to leave. We record this out of order. Sometimes, especially we have an interview. Eddie got sick. So you'll hear Eddie later. But then after we recorded this, Eddie got sick and went home. I will start, and I'm. I'm sad Eddie's not here. But Rampage Jackson's son, Mike, did you watch this?
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Dan
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So let me give everybody the. The. What happened? So Rampage Jackson is a UFC fighter, way famous 10 years ago. Still famous, but like, way fighter famous 10 years ago. His son is now 22, 23, around that age. And his son is a streamer. I think his name's like, Raja Raha, right? Raja R, A R, A J, H. Yeah, Raja Jackson. So he went to, like, a local wrestling promotion, and he's out there talking to the wrestlers beforehand. One of the guys who's obviously a wrestler and there are cameras everywhere, thinks that he's one of the. He looks like one of the wrestlers. He's a big dude. And he takes a can, the can is empty, and does a wrestler move on him and hits him in the head with a can. Except there was nothing in the can. And he did the thing where he, like, covered it and took the most of the blow within his hand to look like it. Am I making sense there? Yeah, it was a fake can hit. Well, so Raja Jackson is like, all right, let's fight then. Like, really wants to fight the dude so they're trying to split him up. Then you see the clip of them talking about it. And the wrestler, we'll call him the wrestler in Raja, the wrestler is like, my bad, dude. All these cameras were around. I thought this was, like, part of the show. Sorry about that. And they shake hands. Do you see that?
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Dan
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And they're like, all good, all good. So it went from being a misunderstanding and the misunderstanding. I could have understood Roger Jackson getting upset, although he is. He's a big streamer, so he's got cameras all around. I get why both had a misunderstanding, but I. I got it. He didn't know he's gonna hit in the head with a can, but he also didn't really get hit in the head with a can. It was a fake, empty can. They were doing a work. Then there was a big apology. Sorry, sorry. All good. Hugged it out. Then in the ring, they had it set up. A Rajah was going to come in and attack the wrestler. The wrestler. I didn't know him. His name is Psycho stuff. I think it was like, just a regional thing, right? Yeah, I think so. Kind of. Kind of fat guy. And like, not. Not like John Cena, normal, big dude. Yeah. But Roger Jackson runs in the ring, jumps on him, and just starts to. He picks him up first of all, and slams him like a UFC fighter, hard, and starts to punch him in the face over and over again with all of his might like. And so even the people in the ring don't know it's fake at first. Somebody runs in, it's like, I don't know what's supposed to do here. And then finally they realized it and they peeled him off. But the dude, apparently the wrestler, was unresponsive. I mean, he wasn't moving in the ring. He was just laying there. He got punched so many times, as hard as this kid could punch him in the face. So then you see the footage of him, like, people calling him, like, you can't do that. He's like, no, you can't. Just. It looked to me like Raja Jackson. People were talking crap to him in his chat, and he had to go prove to his streamers that he's. He's about that. I think his chat talked him into being rage filled because they apologized. They had the whole hug it out moment. I haven't even gone to the story. Because you had. I know. You had to be an official story on it. Yeah. And then you just hear everybody in the crowd, like, realize that it's not a bit, and everybody just Starts screaming. Yep. And then they. It takes, like, five to six people, like, to pin them down. You watch the. The punching. Yeah. It was hard to look at. I mean, you're hitting, like, a lifeless body. Yep, that's exactly what it was. He's punching a lifeless body. It started outside the building before the event. I'm going to read the news story now because I just gave you my interpretation of it all. Roger got into a confrontation with Psycho Stu. Stu hit him in the head with aluminum can. Stu thought Roger was a wrestler, and since there was a camera on him, he figured they should put on a show. But Rajah didn't take it that way. He was pissed. The other wrestlers explained to Roger that Stu was just doing wrestling stuff and not really trying to start anything. They shook hands. They decided to turn it into a work by having Raja attack him in the ring. Later, things got interesting. One of the wrestlers took Raja aside and said, hey, Stu is an idiot for hitting you with a can. He told Raja he should give Stu a receipt, which is a code. And this happens in wrestling where you actually, like, hit somebody once to go, hey, don't do things that are kind of against the integrity of wrestling. You hear a lot of the 80s and 90s guys talk about giving receipts, and you see him on his phone reading the chat, and he's like, no, I'm going to go in and beat the crap out of him. I'm going to, like, the chat was firing him up. And then someone also filmed him on the streets after the attack, and he said he was tired of people playing with him. Yeah, he just running down the street screaming, oh, golly. LAPD is investigating. If he doesn't get charged. He was beating a lifeless body. And Psycho Stew, it's. It's crazy to call somebody that just. Psycho Stew thought it was going to happen, but he thought it was going to happen a different way. So he made himself vulnerable to be picked up and slammed. He had no way to defend himself because he was allowing that to happen to him, to which he thought it was fake. He slams them so hard, his head hits, and then it's just punch, punch. Oh, my God. It's awful. It is awful. Speaking of wrestling, John Cena's retirement date is happening. It's going to be on Saturday night's main event in December. His final match, December 13th. Is this going to be like Cowboy Rides away or.
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Dan
No, like, he's not gonna go away?
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Bobby Bones
Well, it's not that he doesn't go away. He goes away. But every Once in a while he comes back. I mean, it's wrestling. The rock still comes back from time to time. So I think it's him retiring from being in the ring as far as.
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Dan
Like in a match, but I think he'll come back.
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Bobby Bones
The other fight, and we talk about this with Brandon Marcelo, was the fight after the Kansas State football game. And you see Avery Johnson's dad fighting somebody. Avery Johnson's the Kansas State quarterback. Kansas State got beat. It was a close game. Two good teams in Ireland. I watched the whole game. It was Kansas State and Iowa State. I was rooting for Kansas State because I bet Kansas State. And you see, they're like, Avery Johnson's dad's in a fight. Turns out he was beating up his son, the other brother.
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Dan
Is everybody okay?
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Bobby Bones
Exactly. They've all. They've released a joint statement since then, but is crazy, because you just go, somebody must have talked crap to Avery Johnson's dad. And he's like, I've had a couple beers, let's go. But it turns out it was the dad and the son, his other average Johnson's brother. Crazy. So, yeah, that's what's up. Football was interesting. I lost like 700 in the first game because I bet Kansas State minus three, and then I bet them plus two and a half. Once they went down, they ended up losing by three. So I lost both. Both of those bets. Then I was like, all right, screw this. I'm going all in in Kansas because I know Coach Leipold a little bit. And so I bet Kansas heavy. And they. They ran. It was awesome. Kurt Warner's son is the Fresno State quarterback, though lost the game they were supposed to lose. I think the spread was like 13. I bet Kansas minus 13. They. They easily covered, but I made all my money back. Plus, but I was about to go heavy and hole. Week one. Heavy in the hole already. Yes, heavy in the hole. Do we want to go to Brandon now? Yeah. Okay. Let's go over my chat with. I mean, I call him the best in the business when it comes to reporting and talking college football. Brandon Marcelo. Brandon's one of the guys who never says, hey, what do you. What are you going to talk about so I can be ready? He's just like, let's go. Brandon will be joining us a bunch. You can follow Brandon @BrandonMarcelo on Instagram, @B Marcelo on Twitter and then read his articles@cbssports.com Here he is, Brandon Marcelo. Before we get to a bit of week zero and week one, what Is the. What's the. What's the new job you have here, Brandon? You're on the sideline. You're going to be doing some reporting or what?
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Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, I'm going to be doing a little bit of everything this year. I'm going to be on the sideline doing some reporting for CBS Sports Network during this season. I've got one game on the books so far, and in addition to my other duties for CBSSports.com writing and then also on TV for CBS Sports HQ and our new podcast we launched called College Football Insider. So, very, very busy times, but exciting because it's football season.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. I saw your jacket. That's going to be pretty cool. You got the old CBS jacket, the. The logo. I mean, that's official.
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Brandon Marcelo
I was not expecting that. I totally, like, flipped my mind, like, oh, yeah, we still do that. And they asked for my address, and when I got it, I. My heart was just. It's an absolute dream. I don't even know how to describe it. It was just. It's. It's insane. It's incredible.
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Bobby Bones
That's awesome, man. I was so happy for you when I saw that because that's like a thing. Like, when they send you. They send you the actual jacket with their own money. They're paying for that. And anytime anybody pays for anything, it means they're investing in you. They've promoted you into this position. They think you're good. Like, I felt proud for. Not proud of you, but proud for you because I think you're the best.
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Brandon Marcelo
Thanks. Thanks, Bobby. I appreciate it, man. And listen, I been doing this a lot for a while, and just, you just got to keep working hard. At some point, you know, you'll start getting opportunities. So I really appreciate it.
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Bobby Bones
Bobby, let's talk a little bit at week zero. I saw the article you wrote about Avery Johnson at Kansas State. Did you happen to know that his dad and brother were also beefing with each other?
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Brandon Marcelo
I had no idea. So I saw the video and then the statement they released after the game. You know, tempers flare among families, I guess, especially competitive families. And I was. But I was shocked. I mean, it was a legit street fight, like in the. In the water, in the rain street. Hey, that's the day and age we live in. You better be aware that everybody's got a camera, obviously, and if you're going to do something publicly, it's going to be caught on film. And it did not. I mean, it was out within like an hour, like after the game, that it Was out there already. You just gotta. Yeah. Keep yourself. I mean, save that for the hotel room. Go back to the hotel room and do your fight if you have to.
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Bobby Bones
I saw the clip at first, and it said, Avery Johnson's dad gets into fight. And it looked like he was pounding somebody over a mud puddle or like a concrete puddle. Right. It was one of those. And then later it came out that that was Avery Johnson's brother. So also his son. Right. So all that, like. Do we have any idea why they fought?
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Brandon Marcelo
No clue. No idea. I mean, obviously it was a dramatic game and a heartbreaking loss the way they lost it because Kansas State, you know, went for it on fourth down late, didn't get it. Iowa State got the ball back and was able to go score to win the game. I'm sure there was. Listen, there's always sibling rivalries too, you know? You know, it's. I would love to have been a fly in the stands to hear what they were saying while everything was happening near the end of the game.
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Bobby Bones
I thought there were a couple pretty fun week zero games. I thought that was a pretty good game because I watched. I watched two full games. I watched the Iowa State, Kansas State game, which I'll say. I don't, I don't. I don't mind the games overseas. Like, I feel like they could be annoying for the players. And why are colleges going over? I get NFL going over. You're trying to stretch the brand, but college is a little weird. But in Ireland, where it rains a lot, playing in, it's not even a dome. Like, everything just felt off about that.
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Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, I, I don't understand why they do either. And in fact, there's a lot of coaches out there that have told me, like, we will never go overseas. Like, if they tell me it's. It's up to me, I will say, no, absolutely not. And you saw it on display Saturday. I mean, the yard markers were barely even visible on the field. They even repainted them at halftime, and they're still not visible. The field was just an absolute mess. And plus, just the travel for it, you know, Kansas State didn't actually lead to a little bit later for game week than you usually do. A lot of NFL teams have started doing that a little bit because they just want to get there, get one day rest and then get in and get out. And I, I don't know what the best way to do that is, but to go six time zones away to go play one game, especially season opener. I, I don't know, unless there's a lot of money into that in the future, I think we're going to see less games like that. And Bobby, I mean you've seen this like there's been less neutral site games early in the year. We're going to have a few this year, but we're moving further and further away from that too. And the reason why is because these athletic directors want to bring games on campus so they can sell tickets, sell concessions and then also get some better revenue from that. Because as we've seen nowadays with revenue sharing you with the players, you've got to get every, every ounce you can out of those fans with their tickets.
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Bobby Bones
I'll go one more game from this past weekend and I watched the Kansas Fresno State game. I it feels like both Kansas programs and I know Kansas State lost, but definitely that program is in a, an upward trajectory. Same with Kansas. They have a new stadium, they looked fast. The quarterback that we saw play Arkansas real close a couple years ago, he, he looked awesome. He was healthy. He's his sixth year playing. So like Kansas really looked fast yesterday. Any thoughts on Kansas?
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Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, they're going to be really good this year. They're going to be right in the thick of things, especially if Jalen Daniels, the quarterback as you mentioned, can stay healthy because his issue, the reason why he's playing in six years, because he's had injuries over and over and over again, they've mostly had to deal with his back. And if you have a back injury, even back spasms, I mean that is so difficult to get rid of and even be able to play 100% even when you are able to go out on the field, that's going to be the key for them. Can Jalen Daniels stay healthy? And at your point about Kansas and Kansas State, but both being good at the same time, that's kind of been the case off and on for a better part of the last four years. A little bit down here obviously with Kansas last year because of the injury of Jalen Daniels. But both programs led by former FCS head coaches who won championships on the FCS level. And again, it just shows you that if you're a championship type coach that translates to no matter what level really. And Kansas and Kansas State did a smart thing and just said, hey, these guys win titles, they know how to build rosters. Bring them over here and let's do that here. And the more remarkable job of rebuilding has been done by Lance Leopold at Kansas because that place was absolutely in the dumps in the Big 12. Then all of a sudden, a few years back, they beat Texas on the road in a high scoring, really exciting game. And now they're on the rise and they've got a $350 million stadium to boot. They've got things really rolling there in Lawrence.
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Bobby Bones
I, I think Coach Leipold's a. I would say a friend, but almost friend where we text. I like Coach Leipold a lot. And so I text him yesterday. I waited till way after the game and I said, this is typical coach speak back. But I said, hey, you guys look really fast. Because I really did. They looked really fast. I said, solid week one. Stadium looks great. Hope you're good. And he sent the text back. Thanks, Bobby. Appreciate the text. Proud of the team, but plenty to clean up. So, you know, classic coach speak. Um, the stadium turned out great. Come up here for a game. I really like him and I like that he's been able to go because he turned Buffalo around too.
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Brandon Marcelo
Right.
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Bobby Bones
And those are terrible blue colors. And it's harder to turn around a blue team than any other team. I have a theory. And so, you know, I'm rooting for both those Kansas teams. It's the Fresno State coach, also a coach that came from the same pedigree and then went to USC for a year and now is coaching Fresno State. And I think you're seeing those guys that come from those building those winning programs. If you'll give them some time, they also can build at the, the Division 1 level as well, right?
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Brandon Marcelo
Oh, absolutely. I mean, look at Kalyn DeBoer at Alabama. I mean, he came from, like, the NAIA level and then moved his way up, Division 3 level, actually moved his way up and then landed at Washington and took them to the national championship game. And then obviously now coaching Alabama, which some would argue is the top job in America. But he's never really been in a job where he's facing immense pressure. And last year was their first non 10 win season and since 2007. So, like now all the pressure is like, well, you better. You better win 10, 11, 12 games, get in the playoff this year, or you're the worst coach ever. But you know, the guy just simply wins. He wins like 90% of his games, which is almost unheard of these days.
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Bobby Bones
Texas and Ohio State, we're starting off. I mean, you couldn't, you couldn't bang bigger to start off the season. Which team is more loaded with stars?
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Brandon Marcelo
That's a great question. I think Ohio State by the end of the year will be, you Know, when you think Ohio State, all you you think of is Jeremiah Smith, Caleb Downs there on the back end at safety. But they've got other players on that roster that aren't quite proven yet that I think are going to end up being superstars, like maybe a James Peoples at running back. The thing with Ohio State, though, like a lot of teams these these days, but the thing with Ohio State is they, they lose practically everybody on defense and they lose a lot of guys on offense as well, including the quarterback, Will Howard, but you got Jeremiah Smith. So everybody just kind of says, well, Ohio State's a top three, top four team this year. I think early in the year here, Ohio State might struggle a little bit because they're going to be trying to find their identity with all these new pieces, even though they're very talented and they've been backups most of their careers there. Whereas with Texas, I think you'll notice more names you like, of course, Arch Manning, we know him. But with Texas, the thing for them is that they're really talent along the defensive front and they've got some really great players there. It's just that no one considers a lineman a household name. So guys like Colin Simmons and those type of guys, they're phenomenal. Some of the best players you'll see on a football field in week one. But no one goes out and puts posters on their walls of defensive linemen. But Ohio State, Ohio State's going to have the bigger names, I think by the end of the year. But Texas might right now just simply have the most proven superstar types that are maybe not flashy at the skill positions other than Arch Manning.
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Bobby Bones
You're a well connected guy. Do you think they actually just figured out who their starting quarterback is at Ohio State or they've known and just didn't want to say it?
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Brandon Marcelo
They've had an inkling since the spring. But the thing with coaches is is they legitimately pretty much try to do a bank slate, blank slate when they go into preseason camp. And they try to make sure that it's an even competition to give them every opportunity to prove themselves or for that matter, kind of crumble under the pressure. And there was a moment there in preseason camp where Lincoln Keenholtz was able to show something. But it was very clear from the teammates and some of the assistant coaches there that Julian Sain was the more talented guy, higher upside, ready to take over. Lincoln was more of that veteran type, someone you knew probably wouldn't make a mistake, but it's not going to be as flashy with his arm. And you know, they just needed to push Julian through these few weeks of preseason camp and see that he can handle all the pressure and everything and, and he proved himself.
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Bobby Bones
Talk about Clemson for a second because I wonder if the pendulum is swinging back in a positive way with, with Dabo because it's. He doesn't want to go and take his out of the portal. He doesn't want to do all these new a. We'll call them new age, but everybody's doing them now. But then you see last year he had basically the least amount of kids leave. So the culture that he's been building at times, which was zagging while everybody else zigged, it's either going to pay off big time this season. Right. Or he's going to have to change. I don't know how he, how he manages and builds a team. Would you say that's accurate?
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Brandon Marcelo
Possibly. I will say, like I think he's evolving a little bit. Like this past year was the first time he took multiple kids out of the transfer portal. But you're right absolutely correct in saying that he has not been a guy who's leaned onto the portal. In fact, he the only portal guys they end up getting a few the last few years were former walk on, you know, guys that even had played at Clemson previously he was bringing back. But the difference with Clemson is that he's brought in four and five star kids and they've stayed, they're not leaving, they're not transferring out. Where that's happening everywhere else in America. And as you mentioned, that's straight up culture. And in this era where I mean most rosters are turning over at least 30, 35 guys at the very least, it's not happening at Clemson. So I think a lot of us assume based off of the way they finished last year and everybody returning back, that they've got an edge on everybody else on the schedule and for that matter everybody else in college football because they all know each other. They've been in the same system for several years. You don't get that in college football anymore. And they should be one of the top three or four teams in the country this season. And the reason why a lot of people pick them to win the national.
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Bobby Bones
Championship at Penn State at 2, how much of that is Drew Aller?
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Brandon Marcelo
I think a lot of that is not necessarily him. I think a lot of it's just everybody else that returns around him and I think the upgrades they've made at receiver through the transfer portal they got a guy like Trev Pena from syracuse who's like 1100, 1200 yard guy. Remember Penn State, the one thing that's probably been holding them back is just the passing game. They can't throw the ball down the field consistently. And Drew Aller has not been very consistent, especially on intermediate and short throws, which is amazing. He'll hit deep throws, but like the intermediate stuff, the stuff you need, those little chunk plays to keep the ball moving. He has struggled a little bit. But I think the reason why Penn State is ranked as high as they are and I put them number two in my rankings too, is this, that it's because they returned so much. Much like Ohio State last year where they went all in and went to the transfer portal, got the top players they could and then kept everybody that could have went to the NFL on campus. Guys like Nick Dawkins at center, who's incredibly underrated. They are stacked at Penn State this year and not just on the field, but also on the sideline. I mean, they wouldn't hire Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator fresh off winning a national championship at Ohio State made him the highest paid coordinator in, in the country. So Penn State is, I mean, if they don't have to tell you they're showing you they're all in on this year. They're pushing the middle of the table that this is the year they've got to win the championship.
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Bobby Bones
We saw the SEC say we're going to play nine conference games. Plus you have to play a game against a powerful, powerful school. And which is some teams are going to have to do some, some restructuring now because, you know, looking at 26, 27, maybe there aren't enough P4 games outside of the conference, especially when you have to substitute another conference game. So the SEC like they're in, I'm a homer. But shouldn't there be four guaranteed spots to the SEC now that we're going nine plus one P4 game?
- [25:13]
Brandon Marcelo
That's what the Big Ten's arguing. But I think because of the SEC now deciding to do this nine game schedule, it's actually going to put more pressure on the Big Ten to get on board with the other conferences by not doing the four AQs and the CFP doing a 16 team format, but doing so with the five highest ranked conference champions and 11 at larges. What's been so fascinating about this whole playoff debate is that the Big Ten and SEC athletic directors were on the same page with 4 AQ idea for months because they were meeting together. Remember they had two big, like kind of hush hush, secretive meetings in Nashville and then also in New Orleans. And they're all on the same page. But then the moment they got away from each other, the SEC coaches are like, we like the more at largest because we believe if there's more at large spots, the SEC can get six, seven, maybe even eight teams in the into the playoff. Whereas with the Big Ten, it's a very strong conference at the top. It might be better than anybody else, but they don't have the 1 through 16 or 1 through 18 depth that the SEC has. So if you go back and look at the averages and everything, and I've tried to crunch the math on this, the SEC is practically going to be ahead of them every step of the way if it's a 5 plus 11, which means more money for the SEC and less money for the Big Ten and the Big Ten. A lot of ways they want to do this for AQ thing because one, of course you get four teams in every year, even if you probably don't have a fourth team that deserves to be in. So that's money. But also it allows them to create playoff play in games on their conference championship weekend, which is an additional two games in addition to the conference championship game that they could sell to their TV partners, in addition to giving hope to other Big Ten teams that are ranked lower, say as low as number eight, that, hey, all we got to do now is win one game, we get a playoff spot. That's exciting. That's exciting for fans. It certainly is. But in the end, the more important thing is, is that they get the money. And the SEC is kind of fine with how everything is right now. And the other conferences don't want to see the Big Ten and SEC have committed spots. Because I do this comparison whenever I hear this. You know, it would be like 10 years ago, the ACC, right after they broke the record for most teams in the NCAA men's basketball tournament, saying, hey, with the new contract with the men's tournament, we want eight automatic bids every year. The sec, you get three. Because based off this rolling average, last five years, the SEC has been by far the worst conference in basketball. Well, fast forward 10 years later if we were under that format, guess what? The SEC just broke the record for most teams ever in the Insula men's basketball tournament. No one thought that was possible 10 years ago. So if they decided to do a contract much like the College Football Playoff this year, can you imagine the outroar we'd be having right now football and basketball are different, I understand that. But if you were to do this AQ scenario, you're going to have conferences go absolutely down the tubes at times, year, year, three, year, seven, something like that. And you're going to go, this league deserves maybe one or two teams and they definitely don't deserve four. And their number eight team definitely doesn't deserve a chance by just winning one game in a play in game to get in. So I very much understand that argument that we're hearing across college football right now.
- [28:38]
Bobby Bones
Do you think the conference championship games are short lived now because they need that spot that weekend?
- [28:45]
Brandon Marcelo
It depends on who you talk to. The SEC doesn't want the championship game to go away. The SEC championship game. I think the other conferences would maybe be okay with it going away and just going by the regular season standings and say, you know, Clemson finished number on the acc so you're your champion and then the number one and number two teams in the standings sit at home and then you do two play in games. I don't really know what the answer is going to be there. I purse but personally I don't want to see conference championship games go away. I just don't. I think they're exciting. You don't quite ever know what's going to happen. It has changed the playoff field. In fact, on championship weekend I can remember Michigan State pulling an upset in the Big Ten championship to pave the way for Auburn and the SEC to get in. And back in 2014, we just can't. I don't think you can get rid of those championship games.
- [29:36]
Bobby Bones
One other question that you're not going to have the answer to because nobody does. But I've seen you tweet about it and I've had thoughts as well as the SEC says, hey, we're going to have nine games in conference but every team's going to play three specific same teams every year. And they said they laid out what they were basing it on like geography I think was a bit rivalries. And then also they wanted it to be fair, like balance and who knows what balance means. The same thing you just talked about with putting teams into a tournament. That's what balance is because you don't know who's going to be great in five years and who's not. But when do we know? And then I don't know. I'm just so selfish in thinking about Arkansas that we're going to get every absolute worst team we could possibly get. Somehow we're going to play teams Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, not even in the sec. Like when are we going to know? And then what do you. I don't know. Who do you think Arkansas plays?
- [30:28]
Brandon Marcelo
I think that by November, I'm just guesstimating. Based off things I've heard, probably even mid season they're going to have a good idea of what the three permanent rivals are going to be. I don't know if the SEC will just go ahead and announce that, but it will be based off some formula rolling winning average, whether it's for the past five years or past 10 years. Previously when they're discussing going to nine games. A few years back it was going to be a 10 year rolling average. Who should Arkansas play? I mean obviously Texas, you got to put on there. You got to probably keep one of the quote unquote trophy games which is Missouri and lsu. I would be inclined to believe that it'll end up being Mizzou because LSU is going to want to have a more of a permanent rivalry game against obviously Ole Miss with a magnolia ball and then also Texas A and M which has been a big ratings grab for the SEC here of late. And who that third opponent would be for Arkansas depends on who you kind of really talk to, but it probably might end up being Ole Miss. You know, we'll see. But what they try to do is if you have a big rivalry game and they're a top tier team, they try to give you a team in the middle and then team near the bottom, they try to make it all average out to where your average schedule strength judged by the 16 team ranking is about number eight. Right. Some programs are not going to be able to have that, that satisfaction because like Texas, I mean their three rivals are Arkansas, Texas and Texas A and M and you know, or excuse me, and Texas ou, excuse me, you know, OU and A and M is always probably going to be in the top half of the conference. So that makes it difficult for them, Alabama for that matter. Heck, Georgia, Georgia's permanent rideables being Florida and Auburn. I've had some Auburn fans going. We want their three permanent rivals to be what it used to be back in the early 90s, which was Alabama Georg and Florida. But goodness gracious, that's supremely difficult just based off of what we. You're accustomed to seeing with them. But the good news is I don't think the three permanent rivalry thing is a big deal because you're gonna have six other teams on the schedule every year and you're going to play every team in the in the conference based off of that, like every, every two, four years in a four year rolling average, you're going to play every team in the sec. So you're just going to have some seasons are going to be more difficult than others and you're going to have some that are, that are easier. And it's not necessarily because of those three permanent rivals to depend on how those teams rotate on the 6 and 6.
- [32:54]
Bobby Bones
I have a worst case scenario that Tennessee gets Kentucky and Vanderbilt both, which they probably should. That sucks. They shouldn't get those two teams. Nobody should get those two teams together.
- [33:03]
Brandon Marcelo
I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think they'll get Bandy just because of the quote unquote in state stuff. But I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think Kentucky's gonna get matched up a lot potentially with the three just based off of also on previous scheduling things, South Carolina, Mississippi State, for example. Because Kentucky does not have a rival in the sec. Their only rival, of course is in the ACC in Louisville. I don't think there's going to be a schedule where you look at and go, oh my gosh, their three rivals are so easy. I think it's gonna be the opposite. You're gonna look at two or three teams, go, wow, those are supremely difficult. Whereas everybody else is going to be pretty comparable.
- [33:40]
Bobby Bones
All right, final question. My assumption is, and you may not have, but my assumption is you watched any given Saturday or on Netflix, the SEC show.
- [33:49]
Brandon Marcelo
No.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, you didn't. So here's what I thought. I thought either you're like me where I avoid all music when I'm not working in music. Like I avoid all music and I didn't watch it at all for weeks because I didn't want to like teams I don't like. Like mine was all, I don't want to watch a coach team or a fan base that I can't stand and find myself pulling for them. And I decided I wasn't going to watch it, didn't want to be involved in it. My father in law, massive OU fan was over and we went on a vacation to like East Tennessee. And we're like, well, what do we do? And we turned it on. It was great. I didn't plan to watch it. Yeah, I loved it. I didn't want to love it. I wanted to not like it and not watch it after the first episode. I came away. Since you. This is not your opinion. I came away like in Brian Kelly way less than I already liked him and I didn't like him much to begin with. Have you spent any time around him and is he just cold?
- [34:40]
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, he's cold. He is a cold guy. It is what it is. Everybody's different, but he's definitely a cold guy. I haven't watched the documentary, but he's just, he tries to turn it on and even then it's like trying to start a, start an old car in the winter, cold in the morning. It's just this Chuck. You're like, ah, dude, that's not you. But that's good to hear. It's good. I just, I've been one. I'm so busy. I say act like, oh, I'm so busy. I can't watch it. I'm actually watching the Dallas Cowboys one right now on Netflix. I'm really enjoying that. And I just, I didn't want to do the SEC one because I thought I wasn't it produced by the sec. So like whenever I see someone that like, they have a big stake in it and they're like, they can edit things in and out or whatever. So I'm always hesitant to look into that stuff. Especially like, because all these schools have these amazing like in house video productions now. They do their own documentaries and I don't watch them all because they're, they're gonna cut stuff out that might be controversial, but I, I guess the, the SEC one, they leave some stuff in.
- [35:39]
Bobby Bones
They do. I'm gonna tell you who I would like to play for, by the way. I wish I could just play like I was good enough to play. But by watching this, who I want to play for, number one is freaking Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Like if, if you put a wall up and he goes, go. I'm running through it. And I already felt like I really liked him anyway because I got a chance to know him. He, when I was touring, he came out and did a show with me. Like, I like him as a person, but watching him and his interactions and, and how he works with that team, his vein pops out in his head like, that dude is intense.
- [36:06]
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah. I remember I was at a coaches convention. He was giving a big speech in front of all the coaches and he had a slideshow up and he was showing pictures of a certain NFL team that used their facilities at Vanderbilt during the playoffs to practice. And they pretty much wrecked Vanderbilt's locker room. Didn't clean up after themselves or whatever. And he showed the pictures of it and what the way Clark Lee reacted to and telling the players about how he goes See this, they don't even respect you. No one respects you. No one respects Vanderbilt. You know, what are you going to do about it? And obviously I'm surmising and putting everything together there, but the way he put it across, showing that picture, oh, is phenomenal. I mean, this guy's the ultimate. I wouldn't say motivator, but he's also the ultimate like tactician and building things. He's the type of guy like, if I had a new company and, and he's about to handling millions of dollars and everything. He's someone that I would not re. Be reluctant to hire to lead that.
- [37:02]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, he was awesome. I think my favorite coach, just like as a person is probably Shane Beamer because he's off again. Have been able to spend some time with him. Been very fortunate. I love him as a dude. And then watch him hit. Your thoughts on Shane Beamer?
- [37:17]
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, he's authentic. I'm exactly, exactly the same way. I've spent a couple days around him. I went down in over there in Columbia and spent an entire day with him. Followed him everywhere. I was standing outside the bathroom even while I was following him, waiting for him to come out. I mean, he's fantastic. And then, you know, the stories you hear from him about growing up around his dad and wanting to be a coach because his father. And then you see him on the field during games. He's got his son with them just so he makes sure his son can enjoy the big moments with him just like he did with his dad. I mean, it's all genuine. He's not like trying to get on camera or anything. The guy, when the camera's off, he'll sit there and talk to you forever. It doesn't matter who you are. I saw him doing it at a practice once, talking to someone that was just there visiting with some family member, asking about on what they do. I mean, there's a lot of people like that in this world, but not, not a lot of them that are, you know, head coaches or people that have 50,000 people tugging them different ways every day.
- [38:11]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And then the last one that I have interest in now and then we can wrap this is. Is Jeff Leby at Mississippi State, which I didn't know much about him other than my family's from Oklahoma. He went to Oklahoma, came back to Oklahoma and was a coordinator before. Also has bounced around a bit in his growth, but went to Mississippi State. Like, I like the dude from watching this, but I don't know enough about him. What are your Thoughts on him?
- [38:32]
Brandon Marcelo
I don't know anything about him either. Yeah, I don't, I haven't spent any time around him. He was at OU for not very long, actually. He's more or less. And he's from that Art Briles tree with Kendall. Briles is where? At Baylor. The first time I ever heard his name come up was actually with some type of, actually some sideline scandal. He was at someone else's game on the sideline and they're like, you can't be here. Are you scouting? We do this against the rules. It was almost like a mini Michigan thing or whatever. And he got a little hot water over that. I, I, he, you know, that Brile circle, especially just with coaching, just coaching, like their offense and the way they do things. Like no one, like there's like maybe eight people on earth who actually know what that playbook looks like because they keep such a tight circle. Like, you don't see them at coaching clinics going, here's my playbook, guys. Here's some good things we run. Here's some ideas. They don't do that. They're very secretive about that stuff. And I, I don't know, maybe that's why I haven't really got to know him. But he's only been there for a year and a half, so we'll see.
- [39:31]
Bobby Bones
All right, Brandon Marcelo. Follow him on Instagram at Brandon Marcelo. Killing it right now. Just feel fortunate we could get you on now that you're growing, now that you're a superstar. It's like, can we get Brandon to come on the show? So I. We knew you win. We knew you win, Brandon.
- [39:45]
Brandon Marcelo
Well, I, no, I appreciate it, Bobby. I'm not a superstar. I just love what I do, man.
- [39:49]
Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
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Danielle Fishel
Hello, it's Danielle Fishel Ryder Strong and.
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Will Friedle
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Bobby Bones
That's right.
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Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
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- [44:28]
Bobby Bones
Add this list of the top 10 hardest positions in sports. Okay, so they factor in all sports. Major sports, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, golf. I guess golf doesn't have positions.
- [44:44]
Kevin
No, you're just a player.
- [44:46]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So what I have here is the top 10 hardest positions in sports. Kevin and Eddie will take turns and the higher up the list, the more points you get.
- [44:58]
Dan
Okay, Kevin, quarterback.
- [45:01]
Bobby Bones
Quarterback comes in. So here's what we'll do. The person with the least amount of points wins. It'll be like golf. Oh.
- [45:07]
Dan
Because number one gets the lowest amount of points. Right.
- [45:09]
Bobby Bones
Got it. Okay, what do you say?
- [45:11]
Dan
Quarterback?
- [45:12]
Bobby Bones
Quarterback comes in at number six.
- [45:13]
Dan
Dang.
- [45:14]
Bobby Bones
Whoa. So Kevin with six points.
- [45:17]
Kevin
Okay, I'm gonna go goalie.
- [45:20]
Bobby Bones
Goalie in soccer at number three.
- [45:27]
Dan
Good one.
- [45:27]
Bobby Bones
Eddie with three points.
- [45:29]
Dan
Okay, Kevin, cornerback.
- [45:32]
Kevin
Tough position.
- [45:34]
Dan
Yes, it is.
- [45:35]
Bobby Bones
It is tough.
- [45:36]
Kevin
It's so Hard. It's the hardest one.
- [45:37]
Bobby Bones
I know because you're having to judge and guess. Yeah. What another supreme athlete's doing in front of you.
- [45:43]
Kevin
And you're kind of running backwards. He's got the advantage. It's terrible.
- [45:46]
Dan
Especially these days and the rules and stuff.
- [45:48]
Bobby Bones
And also when people are like, oh, you play cornerback. And somebody else hears it and thinks you're a quarterback. And you'd be like, no corner. Yeah.
- [45:54]
Dan
Emphasis on the end.
- [45:55]
Bobby Bones
It's also like a slight. Yeah. Cornerback at number five.
- [46:00]
Dan
Tough list.
- [46:02]
Bobby Bones
So we have goalkeeper, soccer quarterback and cornerback. Five and six.
- [46:09]
Kevin
Eddie, I'm gonna go with the pitcher in baseball.
- [46:14]
Bobby Bones
Pitcher makes the list. Pitcher comes in at number eight. So it's even right now. 11 to 11.
- [46:21]
Dan
Go. Okay, now I'm gonna say goalie in hockey.
- [46:26]
Bobby Bones
Number two. Wow.
- [46:28]
Kevin
Good job, Kev.
- [46:29]
Bobby Bones
Big one five still up on the board.
- [46:33]
Kevin
Eddie, I'm gonna go with the big man position in basketball, the center. That's a lot to cover, that paint, man. It's tough.
- [46:42]
Dan
Bobby's look right now.
- [46:43]
Bobby Bones
Paint, dude.
- [46:44]
Kevin
You know, you look left, you look right. Like, oh, no, gotta get the rebound.
- [46:48]
Bobby Bones
Didn't make the list. Didn't make the list. So that's one strike. Three X's, though. You lose. Kevin, over to you.
- [46:56]
Dan
I'm gonna go catcher. Baseball catcher.
- [46:59]
Bobby Bones
Good one. Number one. Boom, baby.
- [47:01]
Kevin
What's so hard about catcher, dude?
- [47:06]
Brandon Marcelo
Well, you gotta call the game.
- [47:07]
Bobby Bones
You gotta always be.
- [47:08]
Kevin
They got a headphone. They got little ear things now.
- [47:12]
Dan
A little ear things.
- [47:15]
Bobby Bones
Kevin, I don't know that you can be beat at this point. Maybe. Eddie, what do you have? So we have catcher at 1. The hardest positions in sports, the hockey. Goalie at 2. The goalkeeper in soccer at 3, cornerback at 5, quarterback at 6, pitcher at 8.
- [47:34]
Kevin
First baseman.
- [47:35]
Bobby Bones
That's the easiest position in the end.
- [47:36]
Kevin
Oh, dude, it's always coming at you.
- [47:38]
Bobby Bones
That's why they put the best hitter, who can't really play in field. Two strikes.
- [47:44]
Dan
Kevin, I'm gonna go point guard.
- [47:46]
Bobby Bones
Number nine. Point guard.
- [47:47]
Dan
There we go.
- [47:48]
Bobby Bones
It's the easiest. Eddie, one more X and you're. Oh, I got it. Go ahead.
- [47:56]
Kevin
When I said center, I meant the center in football. God's brutal, dude. You start looking down and then you gotta look up real quick.
- [48:02]
Dan
That is a good one.
- [48:03]
Bobby Bones
Actually, though. Incorrect.
- [48:05]
Dan
Oh, okay.
- [48:06]
Bobby Bones
Eddie, you've been eliminated. There are one, two, three things left. Kevin, you've already won the game, but let's see how many you can get to the three left. You haven't missed anything. So catcher, goalie, goalie, Corner. A quarterback. Pitcher. Point guard.
- [48:23]
Dan
I don't really know any.
- [48:24]
Bobby Bones
Somebody said pitcher, right?
- [48:25]
Kevin
Yeah, I said picture.
- [48:26]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Oh, easy, buddy. I hear you. That's one of the two you guys.
- [48:30]
Dan
Yeah. I'm gonna take a shot here in soccer and just a midfielder.
- [48:35]
Kevin
What's so hard about that?
- [48:36]
Dan
I don't even know. I just know its position.
- [48:38]
Kevin
They do not run non stop. Non stop.
- [48:42]
Bobby Bones
No. Didn't make it. Okay. You still have two strikes that I play with.
- [48:48]
Dan
Center fielder. No, I think I know it. If. If you're out.
- [48:54]
Bobby Bones
If he's not out, he's got one more. Yeah.
- [48:56]
Kevin
So stand down, Brandon.
- [48:57]
Bobby Bones
The hardest one is four. There's four, seven and 10 left.
- [49:06]
Dan
Let's keep baseball here. Let's say third baseman.
- [49:08]
Kevin
No, it's going to go around the diamond.
- [49:11]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. No, didn't. You did win, though. Congratulations.
- [49:14]
Dan
I think I lost all my motivation.
- [49:17]
Kevin
But you won.
- [49:18]
Bobby Bones
It felt like a win. You only got two.
- [49:20]
Kevin
That's what I'm saying. Like it wasn't really much of a match.
- [49:23]
Bobby Bones
Brandon.
- [49:23]
Dan
What'd you think I was going to say? Third baseman?
- [49:25]
Bobby Bones
Oh, no, shortstop.
- [49:26]
Dan
Okay, shortstop. Shortstop or third baseman.
- [49:29]
Bobby Bones
No, you can't do. Or, or.
- [49:32]
Dan
Same position. Basically somewhere in the middle field or something.
- [49:35]
Bobby Bones
Okay, you have two left. You have seven and 10. 10 is probably not something I would have ever guessed in a million years. It is from hockey, though.
- [49:44]
Kevin
Oh.
- [49:44]
Bobby Bones
The enforcer, the defender. And I don't know that I would have ever even guessed that was a position because I know we have skaters, we have stickers, Golers, and that's it. And fighters. Aren't those the four positions? Pretty much, yeah. Not a big hockey guy. There's one position left. It's number seven. One. One position in sports. It's a football position.
- [50:04]
Dan
Can anybody guess? Oh, oh, safety, kicker.
- [50:11]
Bobby Bones
Anything. Mr. Brandon. I think I know it. Defensive end. All wrong or. Oh, all wrong.
- [50:17]
Kevin
Even the kicker.
- [50:17]
Bobby Bones
All wrong. Even the kicker, Eddie. Yes, even yours. I know you can't believe it.
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Kevin
This is shocking. Yeah, pressure position.
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Dan
Running back. Dang.
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Kevin
The punter.
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Bobby Bones
Now you can all take turns till somebody gets it.
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Dan
Left tackle.
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Bobby Bones
Correct. That's.
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Dan
That's what I meant.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Why.
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Kevin
Why is that harder than the right tackle?
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Bobby Bones
You gotta protect the quarterback's blind side.
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Kevin
If he's a lefty.
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Bobby Bones
No.
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Kevin
What if he's a lefty?
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Bobby Bones
If it's tua. Okay, right tackle.
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Dan
Yeah, but generally speaking, we got Dylan Gabriel back there. Yeah.
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Kevin
Okay.
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Bobby Bones
Okay. Okay. That's why that position is so important.
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Kevin
I learned something today.
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Bobby Bones
What'd you learn?
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Kevin
That, that the right tackle is very important.
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Bobby Bones
There was this whole article about what happens to your body if you don't go to sleep, which I find fascinating because I have this unhealthy relationship with sleep. And so here we go. This doctor, Dr. Michael Gardner, has laid out what can happen to your body after a prolonged lack of sleep. 24 hours. I think we've probably all done that. Yeah. As a kid and even occasionally as an adult, either you party or you work. And it's like, well, can't go to sleep. Might as well stay awake 24 hours. Cognitive impairment and reduced reaction time can set in similar to having a blood alcohol level of 0.01. So 0.08 is what you get busted for. DUI, DWI. But a question for you guys. If you go to Vegas and let's say you stay out till 2 or 3, 4 o' clock in the morning and you have a 6 o' clock flight, do you try to get a couple hours sleep or do you just roll it and stay up? Kevin, Stay up.
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Dan
Especially in Vegas because. Because what's the point at that point, like you have stuff to do. If you're in like some random city somewhere else and you're like, well, do I just sit here in my hotel room? I have nothing to do. But in Vegas you can sit at the tables, you can go to a club, you can do all kinds of stuff in Vegas to keep you up.
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Bobby Bones
Okay, Eddie, what would you do?
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Kevin
Stay up.
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Bobby Bones
You stay.
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Kevin
I've been burned too many times where like, I'm like, I'm just gonna take a two hour nap and I lose and I miss my flight.
- [52:12]
Bobby Bones
Yep.
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Brandon Marcelo
Oh, you.
- [52:13]
Bobby Bones
I don't think. I don't jinx myself. I've never missed a flight.
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Kevin
Dude, it's, it's the worst feeling of.
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Bobby Bones
Like just two hours.
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Kevin
It's never, you're never. If you are drinking all night and you go to bed at 3, you're not just going to get two hours of sleep, you're going to get 10.
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Bobby Bones
I think it's no surprise then I get a couple hours sleep.
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Kevin
Because you weren't drinking.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I'm just like, I got a couple hours. I might get a couple. And then I can sleep also on the plane. Right. So I would always get that couple hours if I can get it. Brandon, what do you do?
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Dan
I'd probably stay up, but I haven't been to Vegas in a while, so I usually.
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Bobby Bones
I'd be in bed by nine. Not part of the equation. Yeah.
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Dan
I did this In Toronto once where I went to bed at 3 in the morning, had to get up.
- [52:57]
Bobby Bones
At 5. International traveler. No, I'm just saying let me flex once in Belize. You'll never believe what I did. Go ahead.
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Dan
And I woke up still like wasted. Felt like I didn't even drink or sleep in a minute. And I threw up five times on the plane ride home. That was the worst flight of my life. So that's also why. Probably why I would stay up.
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Bobby Bones
You threw up five times?
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Dan
Five times.
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Bobby Bones
Is that common? If you're throwing up, it's a lot. I thought it was just once. If you like throw up cuz you're.
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Dan
I mean, if you're that hungover and you're that sick. It was like my fourth day of drinking straight too. So it all factors.
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Kevin
What st You're.
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Bobby Bones
Are you okay?
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Dan
No.
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Kevin
You ever heard of hair of the dog?
- [53:31]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So like in many ways. Yeah.
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Kevin
So hair of the dog drinking is just like. You know what? I feel like terrible, but I'm just gonna keep drinking so I don't have a hangover.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Kevin
And you keep doing that. Like Kevin saying four days in a row, dude, that you do that, it bites you in the butt.
- [53:44]
Dan
And then your body just detox, detoxes itself. Like it wants to get everything out of you. So it just throws it all up for you.
- [53:52]
Bobby Bones
Hair the dog can be used in a bunch of ways, but I feel.
- [53:54]
Kevin
You, I've only used in that drinking. Hey, boy. Screw it.
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Brandon Marcelo
Here.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Dan
What's another way? Actually, I don't.
- [53:59]
Bobby Bones
It's. If anything's happening. Let's see. Let me ask my assistant.
- [54:04]
Kevin
Okay. See what she says.
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Bobby Bones
Because I've often said use that, which means just do more of it. If you're hurting from not doing it anymore, just do more of it. To kind of raise you back, get you back in.
- [54:14]
Kevin
Okay. You can do that. Working out then I guess right now.
- [54:19]
Bobby Bones
For soreness, it's like I'm super sore. Let me get a little hair of the dog, get back in it, do it, do some squats, kind of get into it a little bit. That's a good example. I couldn't really think of one after I said I've used it more. I'll be honest with you. So I'm gonna do this sex story anyway. 36 to 48 hours of no sleep. Anyone ever been that long without sleep?
- [54:35]
Kevin
36.
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Bobby Bones
Have you ever done two full days? No, I don't think I have either.
- [54:40]
Dan
No, never.
- [54:41]
Bobby Bones
Two full days. Physical and cognitive performance continues to slump. You Might even experience micro sleeps, which means you don't mean to fall asleep. And you're not physically falling asleep. Except there are these brief periods where you don't even realize you're asleep. I think Casey has that right now. Are you okay, man? Whoa. 72 hours. Hallucinizations can escalate to extreme paranoia and long term complications could be on the horizon. Whoa, hallucination. Three days of not sleeping, you're hallucinate. It would be fun to hallucinate if you could somehow snap out of them. Meaning, okay, I will do this to myself. I'll hallucinate lsd. Like something like, like a drug like that. Which. Yeah, I don't know. Do you ever do that while you're in Toronto?
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Dan
Kevin, not in Toronto.
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Bobby Bones
Okay.
- [55:29]
Dan
Where it's like.
- [55:30]
Bobby Bones
That would be interesting and fun to try if for some reason you could just like shock yourself and get out of it immediately once it started to not feel safe. But it feels like those. When you hallucinate, you really have no control when you're gonna get back.
- [55:40]
Kevin
No way.
- [55:42]
Dan
Yeah.
- [55:43]
Kevin
Isn't that like when sailors say they saw mermaids?
- [55:46]
Bobby Bones
That's just because they've been out. Yeah, I'm sure they were.
- [55:48]
Kevin
They were up lost its sea, freaking out.
- [55:51]
Bobby Bones
Or in the desert. Yeah, like mirage. No, no, no. In the desert, 96 hours or more, your memory could start resembling that of someone who has Alzheimer's. And your perception, reality could be distorted into something resembling psychosis. And then I think you just die.
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Kevin
If you were. If you were lost in like in the desert, do you think you would sleep ever?
- [56:13]
Brandon Marcelo
Not lost.
- [56:14]
Kevin
You may not ever get found. You think you're going to die.
- [56:17]
Bobby Bones
Would you sleep? Probably. Because. Because I think. Are you asking would my body allow me to or would I want to? No.
- [56:23]
Kevin
Would you want to?
- [56:23]
Bobby Bones
Yes, because I would need to recharge in order to keep going. You have a limited time of being able to go until your body needs sleep. And sure, I may never, but I'm gonna need that recharge in order to keep trying.
- [56:35]
Kevin
Yeah, I feel like it's the best part. Like I'm just gonna sleep, man. They're not gonna find me anyway.
- [56:41]
Bobby Bones
It's the best part.
- [56:42]
Kevin
I'm just gonna fall asleep.
- [56:43]
Dan
Is there any other good part? You know my favorite part about being lost in the desert?
- [56:46]
Kevin
I love sleep so much.
- [56:48]
Bobby Bones
I'm just gonna sleep.
- [56:49]
Kevin
Like they're not gonna find me anyway. And if I die, I die.
- [56:51]
Bobby Bones
I don't think that would be the case. I think it'd Be hard to sleep if you think you might die also in the desert, what may come and get you. There's not a lot of like, organic matter out there.
- [56:59]
Kevin
No.
- [57:00]
Bobby Bones
You know, werewolves.
- [57:02]
Kevin
Those real sidewise sidewinder snakes.
- [57:04]
Bobby Bones
Well, and also if I'm having hallucin. Hallucin. Hallucinations. Hallucinations, yeah, they're werewolves. I think I'm hallucinating now. As a matter of fact. Yes. Mike, what was the story about the guy who livestreamed and he died? You ever see that? Yeah, it was like, I can ask my assistant, but he like live streamed so long to stay awake and ended up dying on the live stream. I'm pretty sure. Unless it's urban legend. Sometimes I've been caught up. Urban legend, sure.
- [57:31]
Kevin
People talk.
- [57:32]
Bobby Bones
I think if the urban legend was correct, his heart like gave out. What's the story of the person who stayed up a long time, as in didn't sleep and he was on a live stream and died?
- [57:42]
I
Yeah. So that story actually kind of a cautionary tale that's been teared around a lot. The person you might be thinking of is tied to a sort of Internet legend. There have been a few different stories, but probably the most known one is about a guy who tried to break a record for staying awake and was live streaming it, and then he ended up passing away from what was essentially sleep deprivation and strain it put on his heart and body. It's a bit of an urban myth in some ways because there are a few versions of the story floating around. But the core idea is going without saying. Sleep for extreme lengths of time is really dangerous. And it's one of those stories that kind of circulates as a warning. So it's definitely a bit of a dark tale.
- [58:19]
Bobby Bones
What do you think? Or what has been the urban legend on the amount of hours he stayed awake?
- [58:24]
I
Yeah, so the legend usually goes that he stayed awake for something like 11 days straight. So around 260 to 270 hours, which is kind of the classic number that floats around. It's actually a number that's kind of based on a real record attempt by someone named Randy Gardner back in the 1960s who actually did a wid for a levees as part of a science experiment. But in the urban legend version, it's more dramatic and it ends tragically because he was live streaming and never slept and then passed away. But yeah, the number that usually gets thrown around is about 11 days.
- [58:55]
Bobby Bones
What you do is you have a twin. Nice.
- [58:59]
Kevin
Switch them out.
- [59:00]
Bobby Bones
You switch them out how?
- [59:02]
Kevin
On the live Stream like, I'm gonna go to the restroom real quick.
- [59:04]
Bobby Bones
You fall down and then all of a sudden they come out. They come out of the floor. Sorry, I slipped.
- [59:09]
Dan
I got twins.
- [59:11]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we do it with his.
- [59:12]
Kevin
One's a boy and one's a girl.
- [59:14]
Dan
They'll never know.
- [59:15]
Bobby Bones
Dress them the same. We'll keep those babies up for days. 24 hours sleep. 24 hours sleep. That's what you do. That's all you do. Okay. The rivalries, the marching bands, the upsets. Saturdays just got more fun. College football is back. Do you think you know the game? Put your knowledge to the test with DraftKings sportsbook and turn your picks into big payouts. Live betting, rivalry week, odds boosts and more. DraftKings sportsbook has everything you need to own every Saturday. We already saw an upset this weekend. Kansas State, three point favorite, lost to Iowa State. I bet Kansas State wasn't good for me, but there we go. Iowa State went straight up. Gotta love college football. Unless you're me in that one game specifically. Quickly. Here's something good for first timers. New DraftKings customers bet $5 and get 200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use the code Bobby Sports. So if you download the app and you want this to bet 5 bucks, get 200 bucks instantly in bonus bets. Put in the word Bobby sports. One word. It helps us. It helps DraftKings. It keeps them good with us. We love it. If you did it, put in the code Bobby Sports for new customers to get 200 in bonus bets instantly. When you bet just five bucks in partnership with DraftKings sportsbook. The crown is yours.
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Bobby Bones
Here's what I love about Impossible. You don't have to pick. It tastes great. It's delicious meat made from plants so you get to eat good and still go big. I'm talking about full on protein and full on cheat day meals without the cheat day fills. It's fuel for your body. And it tastes delicious. That is the most important part, right? It comes from plants. It grills like beef. It's not or it's. And it's impossible. Look, I love burgers. There's nothing like the grill going nice summer afternoon, getting that perfect burger, stacking it high, the whole deal, right? Summertime burgers. But I also like knowing that I'm not wrecking my cholesterol or feeling super heavy afterwards. It's everything you love about meat without the guilt of meat. Impossible lets you have both. It's awesome. So if you're like me and you want to eat good and you want to feel good, grab some impossible meat products next time you're at the store. Red packaging. You can't miss it. It's everything you want from meat and everything you didn't expect from plants.
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Danielle Fishel
Hello, it's Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong and.
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Will Friedle
Will Friedle from Pod Meets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.
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Bobby Bones
That's right.
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Danielle Fishel
We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content.
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Will Friedle
Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why.
- [63:22]
Danielle Fishel
Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere, of course.
- [63:25]
Will Friedle
We sat down with Kevin Richardson and AJ McLean just minutes before they took the stage. And our very own Will Friedle basically became the newest member of the band.
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Danielle Fishel
Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, baby.
- [63:43]
Will Friedle
And finally, we All L O V e her. Ashlee Simpson Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.
- [63:52]
Danielle Fishel
It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.
- [63:55]
Will Friedle
Listen to Podmeet's world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [64:02]
Bobby Bones
That's going to do it for this week, Eddie. Get better, Eddie. He should be better by later on this week. Although we have to go. Eddie and I are supposed to go down to Savannah, Georgia on Thursday. When we tape this, he's supposed to shoot a bunch of content because that is where the Hyundai plant is. They make the cars. So we're going to go down and shoot some content for Hyundai. But if he's sick because Amy's been sick for two weeks and she's finally back tomorrow, Tuesday in the show, Brandon may have to call you in, call you from the dugout to come shoot content down in Georgia. Yeah, get better, Eddie. Although Eddie won't listen to this. Make it better, Eddie. That's it. Thank you, guys. Thanks to Brandon Marcelo. We will see you guys later on this week. Goodbye, everybody. Hit the you can only. There it is. Yeah. All right. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host at producer Eddie, segment producer at kickoff Kevin and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening, Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time. Time here on 25 Whistles.
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Danielle Fishel
Hello, it's Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong and.
- [65:20]
Will Friedle
Will Friedle from Pod meets World.
- [65:21]
Danielle Fishel
We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content.
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Will Friedle
Tell me why.
- [65:30]
Danielle Fishel
Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere.
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Brandon Marcelo
Of course we joke and say this is our second marriage, but it's. It takes a lot of communication.
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Danielle Fishel
Plus it's Carrot Top, baby.
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Will Friedle
And finally, Ashley Simpson Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency. Listen to pod meets world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan
I'm Dan, he's Ty.
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Brandon Marcelo
Hello.
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Dan
And we're the solid verbal college football podcast.
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Bobby Bones
Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else and all the emotional support you need as a college football.
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Dan
Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.
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Bobby Bones
Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan
We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
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Bobby Bones
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