25W: Brady vs Mahomes Sparks Heated Debate + A Conspiracy Theory About Eddies Broken Arm

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show

Episode Title: 25W: Brady vs Mahomes Sparks Heated Debate + A Conspiracy Theory About Eddie's Broken Arm
Host/Author: Premiere Networks
Release Date: January 21, 2025

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1. Introduction to Episode [03:05]

In this episode of 25 Whistles, Bobby Bones and his co-hosts dive deep into the latest NFL debates and an intriguing conspiracy theory surrounding Eddie’s recent injury. The show kicks off with discussions about the challenges of playing football in varying cold weather conditions and transitions into a passionate debate comparing two of the NFL's most prominent quarterbacks: Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes.

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2. Brady vs. Mahomes: The Heated Debate [03:07 – 23:58]

a. Performance Under Pressure

Bobby Bones initiates the debate by questioning whether the NFL is biased in favor of quarterbacks like Brady and Mahomes, suggesting they receive preferential treatment from referees.

• Bobby Bones [16:19]: “Mahomes isn't cheating. There's nothing he's doing. They may have to change rules because of it.”

Jason Demers supports the notion, highlighting how both quarterbacks benefit from strategic gameplay and potential referee leniency.

• Jason Demers [17:20]: “It's part of his game.”

b. Comparing Flopping Techniques

The hosts compare Brady's emotional reactions on the field to Mahomes’ strategic flopping, debating which technique garners more favorable calls from referees.

• Bobby Bones [18:06]: “Brady cries all the time. Any advantage you can get, get it if you're not cheating.”

• Kevin [20:08]: “You've got, you get the refs protecting their boy.”

Jason Demers brings up Brady’s reputation for emotional displays as a means to influence referee decisions.

• Jason Demers [19:04]: “I remember that.”

c. Impact on the Games and Championships

The discussion extends to how these quarterbacks' styles have influenced their teams' performances in critical playoff games, with particular emphasis on turnovers and key plays.

• Bobby Bones [08:33]: “Lamar Jackson threw a bad interception. And then a bad fumble too in midfield.”

Jason Demers points out the pivotal moments that have defined the outcomes of games involving these quarterbacks.

• Jason Demers [10:25]: “They used every time they show the head coach who's just there in a jacket and has no heater around them, that looks miserable.”

d. Legacy and Future Implications

The conversation touches on the potential future legacies of Brady and Mahomes, debating whether Mahomes could surpass Brady's achievements if current trends continue.

• Bobby Bones [71:16]: “Mahomes gets his [preferential treatment] because Brady established the law of I'm the number one. I deserve preferential treatment.”

• Jason Demers [72:01]: “Might be. You know what? Screw it. Chief's kingdom. I'm part of you. I'm part of the Chief's kingdom.”

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3. Conspiracy Theory: Eddie’s Broken Arm [36:34 – 43:58]

a. The Incident

Eddie discusses his unfortunate accident where he broke his radius bone roller skating for his six-year-old son's birthday. The pain and recovery process have been challenging, leading to musings about the possibility of intentional foul play.

• Jason Demers [36:37]: “It was my son's birthday, and he's six years old. He wanted to go roller skating.”

• Jason Demers [37:10]: “It's troubling me, I can’t tell you that.”

b. Origin of the Conspiracy Theory

The hosts humorously speculate whether Eddie’s injury was a result of him trying to avoid a competition meant to secure Super Bowl tickets.

• Kevin [39:06]: “...you did this to get out of the competition because you know you're going to lose and you want to go to the Super Bowl.”

• Bobby Bones [39:03]: “That's right. That's part of his fault. He was not a good leader of men.”

c. Reactions and Implications

The conversation lightheartedly explores the implications of Eddie’s injury on their Super Bowl ticket competition, emphasizing camaraderie despite the setbacks.

• Bobby Bones [41:18]: “And you should just be allowed to have one of the Super Bowl tickets and you shouldn't have to compete in any way.”

• Jason Demers [41:22]: “I'm in. Broken-armed. In.”

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4. Cold Weather Football: Challenges and Observations [03:07 – 07:26]

The hosts delve into the dynamics of playing football in extreme cold, contrasting games that appear fun under heavy snowfall versus those that look miserable with icy conditions.

• Bobby Bones [03:34]: “If there's a lot of snow, it looks fun, right? But ice and a little bit of snow, it looks freaking awful.”

• Jason Demers [03:35]: “Oh, yeah.”

They discuss how weather impacts players' performance and coaches' strategies, particularly in recent games like the Rams vs. Eagles.

• Bobby Bones [05:17]: “They couldn't throw the ball. Really.”

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5. Playoff Games Analysis: Bills vs. Ravens and Commanders vs. Lions [07:26 – 25:34]

a. Bills vs. Ravens

The episode features an in-depth analysis of the Bills vs. Ravens game, focusing on pivotal plays that influenced the outcome, including key turnovers by Mark Andrews.

• Jason Demers [07:43]: “Mark Andrews completely ruined that game.”

• Bobby Bones [09:10]: “They tried to throw it.”

b. Commanders vs. Lions

The discussion shifts to the Commanders' performance against the Lions, highlighting quarterback Jared Goff’s struggles and the team's strategic victories despite defensive challenges.

• Bobby Bones [14:06]: “The Commanders just owned that game.”

• Kevin [14:50]: “What did you think about the trick play that basically sealed the game?”

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6. Listener Engagement and Closing Thoughts [57:10 – 72:01]

a. "Chiefsaholic" Documentary Review

Bobby Bones and his co-hosts review the two-hour documentary Chiefsaholic, which chronicles the life of a die-hard Kansas City Chiefs fan who took extreme measures to attend away games, including robbing banks.

• Bobby Bones [58:05]: “It's worth watching. Dude, it's insane.”

• Jason Demers [59:46]: “It's excellent.”

b. Reflection on Fan Culture

The hosts reflect on fan dedication and the lengths to which some fans go to support their teams, comparing it to their own emotional investments in football.

• Bobby Bones [66:00]: “I felt like such a loser and I had the little talk of myself.”

c. Upcoming Topics and Farewell [72:01 – 73:48]

As the episode wraps up, the hosts briefly discuss college football national championship odds and tease upcoming content, encouraging listeners to stay engaged with future episodes.

• Bobby Bones [72:01]: “... the greatest dynasty three in a row that's ever been seen in the history of the NFL.”

• Jason Demers [73:48]: “NHL Unscripted with Virkin and Demers.”

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7. Notable Quotes

• Bobby Bones [16:19]: “Mahomes isn't cheating. There's nothing he's doing. They may have to change rules because of it.”

• Jason Demers [17:20]: “It's part of his game.”

• Bobby Bones [18:06]: “Brady cries all the time. Any advantage you can get, get it if you're not cheating.”

• Kevin [20:08]: “You've got, you get the refs protecting their boy.”

• Jason Demers [19:04]: “I remember that.”

• Bobby Bones [71:16]: “Mahomes gets his [preferential treatment] because Brady established the law of I'm the number one. I deserve preferential treatment.”

• Bobby Bones [58:05]: “It's worth watching. Dude, it's insane.”

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Conclusion

In this episode of 25 Whistles, Bobby Bones and his team navigate through intense debates about NFL quarterbacks Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes, examining potential biases and their impact on the game’s outcomes. They also entertain a conspiracy theory regarding Eddie’s broken arm, blending humor with camaraderie. The episode offers insightful analysis of recent playoff games and reflects on fan culture through the lens of a compelling documentary. This multifaceted discussion provides listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives on current NFL dynamics.

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Note: Timestamps are indicative and correspond to sections within the podcast episode based on the provided transcript.

Transcript

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[Jason Demers]

25 Whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

In this episode, you'll get a conspiracy theory and a lot of dumb opinions on football games. Blow the whistle, Eddy. Eddie has a broken arm, which was addressed in the By Bone show today. And we'll get to a conspiracy theory about that in a second. There are a theory about that. There's a lot of theories about your arm. I do want to talk first about cold weather football, where there's a difference in what looks miserable to play in and what looks fun to play in. If there's a lot of snow, it looks fun, right?

[Jason Demers]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If there's a lot of snow and it's like two degrees, it's like. Yeah, but it's snow. It's amazing. If there's like ice and like a little bit of snow, but you see them breathing through their helmets. Looks freaking awful.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Painful.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, more for the coaches. I feel like the players, they get to move around a little bit, but they use every time they show the head coach who's just there in a jacket and has no heater around them, that looks miserable.

[Bobby Bones]

See, I would disagree because you got to catch the ball, which hurts. You have to hit the ground, which hurts. Yeah, like. And having played a decent amount of. Again, not NFL, but cold weather high school football games, it sucks. It sucks when it's cold. And this isn't even in Buffalo, New York. This isn't even in Philadelphia. It sucks so bad. And I would just rather it snow because at least maybe your brain's like, it's Christmas. Oh, God. Maybe your brain. Because it looked miserable the first part of that game. If just the Rams Eagles game. Yeah, because at the end of that game, it started to snow a bit, then it looked fun, then it was like Christmas. Yay. It was just like Cold in winter and miserable the whole game and it felt terrible for them. It was a great game. We had great games. The only game that wasn't like a great game but was still fun was the commanders winning shout out. Eddie, I think you predicted that.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, pretty crazy, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

But that game looks so cold in Philly. The Rams and Eagles played and it just looked like every hit hurt extra. It was impossible to catch the ball and at the end when it did start to snow, they definitely had to switch up how they played offense. They couldn't throw the ball. Really. Stafford did an okay job. It was only whenever he started to run, no huddle, that they could move the ball. Great game. It was awesome.

[Kevin]

And then watching the guys run the routes, you could see they took like five steps just to be able to stop and then go.

[Bobby Bones]

And like the defensive backs, they couldn't really plant.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So Eagles win that. That's cool. I was really rooting for the Rams. Eagles are probably a better team if they make the Super Bowl. Like it's probably a little. But the story for la, just imagine if they could have won a made of the super bowl with the fires.

[Jason Demers]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like if the NFL was fixed, I think the la. I think the LA would have won the game. Like if, if it was fixed, I think LA would have won the game. And it's not because it was close enough. They could have fixed it. Now if it's like a 30 point lead, you can't fix those games. I think if it was fixable and the NFL wanted to do that, which I don't think they do, they would have fixed that game. For that wonderful story of here's Los Angeles representing its people, it was very much Drew Brees in the Katrina Super Bowl. It's very much that.

[Kevin]

Patriots 01 Patriots.

[Bobby Bones]

But yeah, but that's just a name. 911 happened in New York City. I think. You know, but I'm saying I think.

[Kevin]

You being a Patriots fans together community.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't story that have been the Giants.

[Jason Demers]

It would have been the Giants.

[Bobby Bones]

It have been the Giants. You can't have that just because your name's the Patriots and you get a guy.

[Kevin]

There's nothing more Patriot than America named Patriot.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not going to give you that one.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I think they found that because they got there. But the real story would have been the Giants or the Jets, a New York team. I don't think the jets made the playoffs that year. If they did, they didn't move very far. But being able to wear the nypd, you know, NYFD hat.

[Eddie]

That World Series with the Yankees and the Diamondbacks, I feel like was like the 911, you know, stop it with the Patriots.

[Kevin]

I'm just saying.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you're saying you're a Patriots fan.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that too. That's part of it for sure. But I mean, I think Patriots, America, Patriot, patriotic.

[Jason Demers]

I mean, they are red, white and blue.

[Kevin]

Exactly, guys.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you. Eddie, stop.

[Kevin]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

It was a great junior varsity version of that.

[Kevin]

I'll take it.

[Bobby Bones]

Not the main I'll take it. Eagles won that game. That was good. Bills and Ravens, that game looked great. Game cold as crap, too.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And what I wanted to actually talk about in this game is Eddie wanting to just blame it on a player.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah. Like, I think the whole game. Oh, man, it's hard to do that. It really is. Like, I'm not the type of person to scream at the TV and blame it on a player, but Mark Andrews completely ruined that game.

[Kevin]

Dang, dude, that's mean, bro.

[Jason Demers]

And not that he probably knows it. And I'm not saying anything that like, you know, it's like, what, What a surprise. He probably knows it. He turned the ball over at a very pivotal time and then the two point conversion that could have tied the game up. It was a dime.

[Eddie]

The Internet. It wasn't a dime with you.

[Bobby Bones]

First of all. It wasn't a dime. No, it wasn't a dime. It was. He should have caught it, but it wasn't a dime. And he was like falling backward. But. But Lamar threw a pick. Lamar fumbled the ball. Too bad. Bad.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

So just snowy, dude.

[Eddie]

Snowy.

[Bobby Bones]

Same thing with Andrews.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

I don't know, I just felt like, gosh, those two moments in Andrews, like what he did is what turned that game around.

[Bobby Bones]

What sucked was that their two, Two of their three most consistent players did not play well.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Lamar Jackson threw a bad interception. Yeah. And then a bad fumble too in midfield. And so it was a bad first half for Lamar. Imagine if they were to score those. They wouldn't even had to worry about that at the end. Right? Right. Yes. Were they critical that fumble though? I just. Compared to Lamar's. I would take those two. The Lamar fumble and the market. They're even after that one.

[Jason Demers]

So not that. But two point conversion, though.

[Bobby Bones]

The two point conversion was tough, I'm not gonna lie. But you can't pin that on him as the guy that lost the game. How about not giving the ball to Derek Henry on both two point. Both two point Conversions and what happened.

[Kevin]

On the first one?

[Bobby Bones]

They tried to throw it.

[Kevin]

I know that they didn't get it. I was just trying to think of what happened. I remember the second one obviously with Mark Andrews, but I can't remember. I know that they didn't get it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think they tried to throw it.

[Kevin]

They definitely did try to throw it.

[Bobby Bones]

So there are a lot of things you could have, shoulda, woulda. Yeah, I'm never really a believer in one play causing an entire game, but I can go four plays. Those two by Lamar and those two by Mark Andrews. Okay.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, that's fair enough. But it's just tough, man.

[Kevin]

But same thing with the Texans. Like it's these, these plays that lose you games.

[Bobby Bones]

The Mark Andrews one was tough though, because it was just the last play, but it wasn't a dime and There.

[Eddie]

Was also 90 seconds left, so the Bills could probably.

[Bobby Bones]

There was a minute 28 left and two timeouts.

[Eddie]

People are forgetting about that. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

With minute 28 and two timeouts left. Imagine that's the case. And they said, well, here's $100. Do you bet with a minute 28 and two timeouts that the Bills will kick a field goal at least and win the game? Everybody bets that. The answer is yes.

[Jason Demers]

Yes. So it was in his hands.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. And I don't even like Mark. He's fine. I don't dislike him, but he's like an Oklahoma guy. Don't really have any like love to Oklahoma, but he is like a pivotal.

[Kevin]

Part of that franchise the last decade. Yes. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Super consistent.

[Kevin]

It's not like some backup tight end and has been a nobody kind of cast around guy. So I feel bad for him.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel bad for him too. More than bad. Adam.

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

You wanted to blame him and he was like lost the whole game because.

[Kevin]

Now we call that the Mark Andrews game. Right.

[Jason Demers]

Eddie forever go down as that.

[Bobby Bones]

Which Lamar is what, three and five in the playoffs? I believe it's his record. I don't think that he gets the pass though, because again, does he not throw that interception? They just chunked. Does he not fumble at midfield? They possibly are not in that situation to begin with. Right.

[Eddie]

They were in the hole from the beginning. They had to claw their way back.

[Bobby Bones]

And you don't have to go for two every time if you get one field go out of that. So a lot of small decisions, a.

[Jason Demers]

Lot of things go into it. But God, that was the one that stuck out.

[Bobby Bones]

That one was tough. That was very into the game. That was tough. I Did hit both of those games as far as point spread. I was going to yell, I'm back, baby. Fully. I'm only back mostly because I had Notre Dame plus eight and a half last night. That final field goal kicked me right in the nuts.

[Kevin]

Idaho State minus eight and a half.

[Bobby Bones]

You did. You needed the field goal. Yeah. Ended up being a pretty good game, though. And we can come back to that. It was ugly for a long time, but it ended up. I had to turn it on and watch. Like I had to care again because. Well, when they missed a field goal.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, well, that's it. And then they stopped them. There was a fumble. The announcer goes, you know, Freeman says they need to get a turnover. Boom. Turnover immediately.

[Kevin]

Isn't that crazy? And he was saying, like, I think Ohio State's only fumbled four times all year. First play.

[Bobby Bones]

So it ended.

[Jason Demers]

It's fixed the script.

[Bobby Bones]

The second quarter and third quarter kind of sucked.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But the first part of the first quarter, that drive when he ran, I think he had nine carries in the first drive.

[Jason Demers]

They said he threw up after that drive.

[Bobby Bones]

And like dead on the run before that last quarterback sneak, he. He laid there for an extra second. I was like, you're killing him before.

[Jason Demers]

The game even starts.

[Bobby Bones]

So that was exciting. And then when they came back and made it a one possession game after the fumble, that was exciting. And then that field goal, those first downs just melted them.

[Jason Demers]

Did you think that they had a chance at the end? Like, you really think that Notre Dame could win this game?

[Bobby Bones]

I thought, I need Notre Dame to allow them to kick a field off. That's what I was thinking, too. I wanted Notre Dame to win because it's like the Yankees just won the World Series. Like, you spend the most money. You know what, you're probably going to win more times than not. You should win if you're.

[Kevin]

If the Yankees don't.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. If you're strategic about the money you're spending. And it's been said 100 times, they have a $20 million roster, so they should. So I was not rooting for them to win because of that, but I don't really care about either team.

[Kevin]

I felt bad for 29. The corner for Notre Dame on that last play, the third and ten, they left them one on one with Smith. I was like, oh, gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

And they were that. So they could stop the run, obviously. And Will Howard saw it.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And just.

[Bobby Bones]

And just chunked it.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

We could have completed that.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's ball game. That's Ball game back to the NFL. The Commanders and Lions was interesting in a couple places for me. When Teddy Bridgewater went in, I was like, let's go. This is awesome. Coaching high school. Now he's back in. They ran that. That end around to Jameson Williams and I was like, okay, we got us a game here. Now we're back in it. That's pretty cool. Although I had Jameson Williams, like, at 70 yards receiving, which he did not get, and I was. I was like, please, God, let him count that as like a shovel pass. They didn't, but the Commanders just owned that game.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, Jane Daniels was awesome.

[Kevin]

He had some throws, man.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. It's like, I want. Because he's a rookie, I keep waiting for him to rookie, but it's weird.

[Jason Demers]

It looks like nothing phases.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude. No sign of it.

[Kevin]

Even, like the excitement, he's still the same.

[Jason Demers]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

No sign of it. Just sits on the sideline, does a thing like, I thought Jared Goff played maybe the worst I've seen him play this year.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

The Jared Goff game.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a bad Mark Andrews game.

[Kevin]

Jared Goff.

[Bobby Bones]

And so you feel bad when a guy has a great season, also runs. Runs into the Commanders playing one of their best offensive games. But the Lions defense is so depleted and it all just rode that singular wave of. The Lions have no defense, the Commander's offense and Jayden Daniels is awesome. And then Jared Goff had a bad game and that just.

[Kevin]

What did you think about the trick play that basically sealed the game that you talking about? The double pass?

[Bobby Bones]

What quarter was that in?

[Kevin]

The fourth. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Was it.

[Kevin]

They were down 10, driving, and that was it.

[Bobby Bones]

I thought to myself, don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. And then I go, well, if I'm in that situation and I don't ever get to throw it, I'm throwing it.

[Kevin]

It's not Jameson's fault.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. That's what I thought about it. It wasn't like, bad call. It wasn't. Because what do I know? But I thought he was so covered.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That I would like to have. Think I wouldn't have thrown it or thrown it out of balance. But then I thought, if I never get to throw it and you're giving me. I'm throwing it.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So, yeah, I understood. We call it that James Williams game. Texans and Chiefs. I saw a stat and I wish I had screenshot it, but a lot of people are busting the Chiefs and the refs and Mahomes is balls because it's like he gets all the breaks.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, the personal fouls, rough and the passer.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And a couple of times that happened. And the stat was the Chiefs over the season, and I think they did the last three years, because it was the last two seasons where they won the super bowl, they actually get less penalties than the other teams. But what happens is. My theory is that if you give the Chiefs an opportunity, an extra opportunity, they take advantage of it every single time. And did Mahomes flop on that play out of bounds where he felt. Yeah, of course. But I'm also not above that.

[Jason Demers]

It's part of his game.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm also not above it. And when it doesn't work, it looks lame, but it probably works. A lot of times that we don't even know that looks like a real penalty. But it was that the Chiefs don't actually get more penalties called on their behalf. So I think what it is, is they're so good, if you give them just an extra inch, they're going to exploit anything they shouldn't have and get another first down or a touchdown out of it. And that's basically what happened here, too. The one play where he was kind of hit in the chest in his face mask, that personal foul, I can definitely see where the ref called that. It looked like he was hit in the head. Yeah, because his head popped back. Upon further review, it did look like he got hit in the chest and then in the face mask. But they have to protect the quarterbacks. I didn't feel like Mahomes did anything in that situation. That slide where the two guys hit above him, that was not a personal foul. However. Bang, bang. Maybe it looks like that, but Mahomes slides so late, like he purpose. He lures these guys in. Yeah, it's brilliant.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you're a hater, Patriots.

[Kevin]

No, I hate him.

[Bobby Bones]

He doesn't want to see it happen.

[Kevin]

I can't. It's like watching James Harden.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

It's like watching all these guys where you're like, this isn't even fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Here's the difference. Harden's never won a championship.

[Kevin]

I mean, I get that, but.

[Jason Demers]

But taking that three bones when you jump into him like it's. It is cheap.

[Kevin]

It's hard to watch.

[Bobby Bones]

It's strategic. And again, I'll say it again, they have less penalties called on their behalf than the other teams. So what you're seeing is that happen and then them capitalize off of it. And then you cry your little new England Patriots tears because you're the dynasty. And once this happens, you just got trumped.

[Jason Demers]

I do feel Brady would do the same thing.

[Kevin]

No, Brady would go down without getting touched.

[Jason Demers]

100% Brady.

[Kevin]

He would go down without getting touched.

[Bobby Bones]

Here's the difference.

[Kevin]

I could show you a highlight reel of Brady's helmet. I can show you my pole with nose.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to show stuff. Look, this is what I want to say about Brady. He cried all the time. People would have a different complaint, but the same complaint. Like Brady cries and gets every call. I was all for it. Any advantage you can get, get it if you're not cheating. Mahomes isn't cheating. There's nothing he's doing. He's not putting pine tar on the ball in the bat. He's not taking. He's not. He's doing nothing. They may have to change rules because of it. He slows up.

[Kevin]

We need to review these then. We need to review them.

[Eddie]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm okay with that. But the problem with reviewing a lot of these five hours. Oh, I don't care about that.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, you don't?

[Bobby Bones]

Nah. Because they're getting pretty quick at that.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say you can do it pretty quick.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, and they have upstairs as well. Sometimes it is such a judgment call that most of them are just going to be upheld because it was called on the field. It's so close. You may get the occasional. But how are you going to call it when Mahomes is slowing down, going out of bounds so he gets hit. What are you going to call slowing?

[Kevin]

But then you have guys like, you got. Yeah, Jared Goff on that picture. He's got absolutely annihilated.

[Bobby Bones]

We're not talking about Jared Goff.

[Kevin]

I'm just saying you're comparative.

[Bobby Bones]

No, we're not comparing because Brady did not get the comparisons. If you brought up Brady, I'd like to use him in this argument. Tom Brady cried more than any player.

[Kevin]

I've ever get a penalty for. Crying, though.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but you get breaks. You get the refs protecting their boy.

[Jason Demers]

Gosh, that would be cool, though. Crying, number 12. Offense.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, I think they protected Tom Brady more than they protect all of them. No, let's not beat Manning. Yes.

[Kevin]

Aaron Rodgers, superstars.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the theme? Super bowl winning quarterbacks.

[Kevin]

Well, yeah, some of them are.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. Everyone you just mentioned won a Super Bowl.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's been like 15 years.

[Jason Demers]

Herbert, like, died every single time.

[Kevin]

Until Jalen hurts. He had a bad one the other day.

[Jason Demers]

Didn't get called he's not a superstar yet.

[Kevin]

He's been to a Super bowl, just hasn't won one yet. It's like the Ohio State Buckeyes. You gotta get a helmet thing on your.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think I would go as hard on you, except you're so a Brady guy and I'm not.

[Kevin]

It's just hard. It's hard to watch.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's what we said about Brady. He cries every and anytime anybody touches him. Flag.

[Jason Demers]

I remember that.

[Kevin]

But he fall before he even gets touched.

[Bobby Bones]

That would. And he would get flags. He would get rough. Yes.

[Jason Demers]

Just leave it, dude.

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

If you don't think Mahomes is getting the Brady treatment.

[Kevin]

I've never.

[Bobby Bones]

You have Patriot colored glasses on you.

[Kevin]

Okay. Did you ever see Brady flop when he barely got touched on the sideline?

[Bobby Bones]

They have different annoying traits.

[Kevin]

I don't even know how as a grown man. I don't even know how you can watch that back of yourself if you're Patrick grown man.

[Bobby Bones]

Watching the girl cry the whole time.

[Kevin]

I look like a little baby.

[Bobby Bones]

I think both.

[Kevin]

I will stand on this hill and die forever.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you're dead. Yeah, you're already dead. Because both of them are given the gifts of being the NFL's most super of superstars. And you must protect the most super of superstars just because of the money involved. And if you don't think Brady had such preferential, beneficial treatment because of what he deserved, all of his championships, you're out of your mind. You are out of your mind. Is that Donald Trump?

[Jason Demers]

Sounds like it.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you. I try and love that. Anyway, that's all okay. But I also think it's. It's hilarious. I hate it because I'm. I'm not for flopping. So when he fell on this over the sidelines, I was like, yeah, that didn't look very good. Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

Honestly, his little fingers after a play like that more than anything else he does and watch.

[Bobby Bones]

Put the Chiefs in a vacuum. And there's never been an NFL season ever. And this is the only NFL season ever. And you're watching the Chiefs. You're not annoyed by them. You're annoyed by them because they win all the time. Nothing about that team is annoying.

[Jason Demers]

You're right.

[Bobby Bones]

And there's nothing to dislike. There are no cheating. They haven't sent cameras in watching other people's practice as Patriots. There's no deflategate.

[Kevin]

A deflate gate. You really think that's a real thing?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

It doesn't matter.

[Jason Demers]

I met someone on the inside. I Know someone on the inside. He said the ball was like a sponge.

[Kevin]

They spent more time on deflate than they did with anything else in the NFL.

[Bobby Bones]

I think the flag was stupid, but I'm saying it changed people's perceptions of the team.

[Kevin]

Yeah. The NFL came after the Patriots. Where? The NFL loves the Chiefs right now. Yeah, loves the Chiefs. I want to see a camera on guys like. Like Taylor Swift when there's a bad play.

[Bobby Bones]

You're missing the point. What I'm saying is there's nothing to dislike about the Chiefs.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I like. I dislike a lot of things.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, because you're a Patriots fan.

[Kevin]

Maybe. I know a lot of people. Ravens fans.

[Jason Demers]

They're pretty. I mean.

[Justin Pennock]

Yeah, you're right.

[Jason Demers]

I don't hate those Chiefs.

[Kevin]

I can't stand Wilson.

[Bobby Bones]

Kelsey, why can't you say watch?

[Kevin]

I think he's a baby.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. He is. I am not a Kelsey super fan. My only point is you have such hatred toward them because you're a Patriots fan. You do not want them if they win the Super Bowl. They are now.

[Kevin]

But there's other teams.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, hey, yeah, hey, let me finish my sentence.

[Kevin]

I never hated the Warriors.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, but they're not fighting your Patriots and Boston.

[Kevin]

But they beat the Celtics in the finals, and I wasn't even that mad.

[Bobby Bones]

Doesn't matter. Boston won one last year.

[Kevin]

Wait, what?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they won last year. You're not talking about. You're scared they will go down as the greatest dynasty ever, which is way different because that's what you hold your hat onto. That's way different than.

[Kevin]

It's a mix.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to fight with you anymore.

[Jason Demers]

Because it's just funny that when the Patriots are winning, you're like, oh, yeah, well, what's wrong with us? We're great fans. Like, we're not annoying. But now that you see the other side of it, you're not winning.

[Kevin]

Loved the hatred.

[Bobby Bones]

Not only that.

[Kevin]

Loved it.

[Bobby Bones]

You're annoying.

[Kevin]

Loved it.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my. But if you don't think Brady got the Mahomes treatment, which they both are getting the treatment, you're crazy. It's worse than Mahomes gets now.

[Kevin]

No.

[Jason Demers]

Yes.

[Kevin]

You just were getting the different kind of treatment. There's a difference between whining and. There's a difference between, like, flopping and egging These guys on for the defensive.

[Bobby Bones]

Whatever they were good at, they got. They got back. Like, Brady was great at crying like a little baby, and so he benefited from that. Mahomes is great at flopping. He benefits from that.

[Kevin]

Yeah, but like I said, crying doesn't get you a flag.

[Bobby Bones]

It does late the next play when it happens again, which probably wouldn't be a flag, but because you cried about it so much.

[Kevin]

I don't think we're going to go anywhere with this.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's four on one.

[Kevin]

Oh, I don't care.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like both of them, so I'm not. I like both of them is the weird thing. I liked.

[Kevin]

I like. I was with a Niners fan and a Ravens fan over the weekend and they were more pissed than I was.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because they both lost and suck.

[Eddie]

Yeah, they're better.

[Kevin]

This is before the Ravens lost.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, the Niners didn't make it and the Ravens are just bitter they haven't made. Made it. Hey, they lost last year in the AFC championship in Baltimore and I'm sure.

[Jason Demers]

You'Ve influenced them somehow.

[Kevin]

Not at all.

[Jason Demers]

As your friends.

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. He's so. Dude, he's so sour right now.

[Kevin]

No, you are. You are.

[Bobby Bones]

You can't take it. If the Chiefs win, you're no longer the greatest dynasty. It's the first time ever. No, you're not.

[Kevin]

Four compared to seven, but it's three in a row.

[Bobby Bones]

That's never happened, so that's never happened.

[Kevin]

Two dynasties, they've. This will be one for them.

[Bobby Bones]

Never has anyone. And you're about to get your coach replaced. Coaches the best coach all time. When Andy Reid beats him.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah, go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm just saying this is fun. Three in a row.

[Kevin]

Hey, Mike, you got any Longhorns gear I can borrow?

[Bobby Bones]

3 in a row is epic. And I'm not even fighting for my team. I'm just fighting for common sense. Anyway, the Chiefs won and I don't think it was because of the refs. I think the refs give my homes the Brady treatment, as I call it. But they also. The special teams wasn't good for the. The Texans just were not going to win that game.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Kymy fan. Baron, no bueno.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. He like had on nine layers of clothes. He like had on a head on a. He had on like the north face coat as he's kicking over.

[Eddie]

You can just shanked it to the right.

[Bobby Bones]

You just tell he was cold. He's cold. Good games. Now the pressure though, because I don't feel like the pressure of the Josh Allen. Like Josh Allen's pressure wasn't this last game pressure to win. Pressure to win a Super Bowl. But like his boogeyman is Patrick Mahomes.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Lamar's is winning a playoff game. So if the Bills lose, that sucks. Josh Allen didn't get to a Super Bowl. Again, didn't win a Super bowl, but it's not. Can't win in the playoffs.

[Jason Demers]

Does Josh Allen get the Tom Brady treatment?

[Bobby Bones]

No, because he plays a completely different style of ball. And also he's not one Super Bowls.

[Eddie]

He did have that one moment, like, what was it, two weeks ago where the ref came up to him on the sideline and like a pop. Apologize for a call, though. So, I mean, he does get a little. A little love.

[Bobby Bones]

Superstar treatment.

[Eddie]

Superstar treatment.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but there's only two. The Brady Mahomes treatment is totally different than anybody else. All I'm saying is they're the same. I'm not even saying that Brady's was worse. So this.

[Kevin]

I didn't even say anything. I'm not even in on this. I'm not saying anything. We're going to agree to disagree and I will die on the hill.

[Eddie]

His face is getting redder.

[Bobby Bones]

To in conclusion. I forget my point. Oh, Josh. Josh Allen's boogeyman.

[Kevin]

I like Josh Allen.

[Bobby Bones]

Me too.

[Kevin]

I think he plays, like, awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

You just hate he comes down with a Buffalo Bills hat tomorrow.

[Kevin]

I will.

[Bobby Bones]

Josh Allen's boogeyman is Patrick Mahomes. Lamar Jackson is the playoffs. If Josh Allen loses to Patrick Mahomes again, it'll be what Lamar is suffering from right now.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Can't win because of playoffs. Josh Allen can't win because of Patrick Mahomes. Not regular season. Yeah, beat him regular season, all day.

[Jason Demers]

No problem.

[Bobby Bones]

By the way, playoffs. Travis Kelsey, mvp. That dude. It's just like he just waits. He didn't even start.

[Eddie]

And there's like no one ever around him either. He, like always.

[Jason Demers]

He's looking a little old, though.

[Eddie]

He's a little slow, but I saw.

[Bobby Bones]

Through every playoff game Kelsey's played in. He might. He's at like either 99 or 100 yards. Averaging 100 yards a game through every playoff game. And a touchdown at least a game. Averaging. Wow.

[Eddie]

It's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, even last week, we can go. Well, those are inflated numbers from the beginning of his playoff run. No, I think he caught for. I think he got for one 110 or something.

[Eddie]

I don't want 17.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.

[Kevin]

Let's go choose the glorified wide receiver that you're talking about.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, my goodness. Larry's gonna fight to Travis Kelsey.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm glad he's continuing on.

[Kevin]

Now I'm giving you crap because he's just trying to. He's trying to poke at it. I know what he' doing.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm literally just talking about stats. Did you guys feel I was poking.

[Jason Demers]

There at all you guys?

[Bobby Bones]

So sensitive and triggered right now because the Patriots might be the second greatest dynasty ever.

[Kevin]

Oh, seven.

[Bobby Bones]

That's great. Nobody's ever done three in a row.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And with good luck with four. Can you imagine three plus the one four that early in Patrick Mahomes career?

[Jason Demers]

Oh, my goodness.

[Bobby Bones]

He might win 10.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Especially when he's getting the Brady treatment.

[Jason Demers]

Tom Brady would get stripped from the goat title. That'd be crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, if he wins this one, they'll start to debate that. It'll be a real life debate, like who's the greatest of all time? And they'll go, well, Brady, because he's one more. But then they'll go, but at this point in their careers, Mahomes is significantly ahead of Brady. So that will be the conversation. Okay, we'll move on.

[Kevin]

We all know, I mean, who's beat him twice in the playoffs?

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's true.

[Kevin]

Tom Brady, if you guys didn't know.

[Bobby Bones]

Cool.

[Kevin]

Knocked him out twice.

[Bobby Bones]

And so Eli Manning won in the Super Bowl. Eli Manning is the greatest of all time.

[Kevin]

One night AFC championship.

[Bobby Bones]

Is Eli Manning the greatest of all time?

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Just wondering, because I think he beat. He'd be Tom, right?

[Kevin]

Yeah. Twice.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Just making sure.

[Kevin]

Not seven times. Yeah, not seven times.

[Bobby Bones]

Nick Foles.

[Jason Demers]

Nick Foles.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's true, too.

[Jason Demers]

Champion, Right? About that.

[Bobby Bones]

Anyway. College football fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bad timing, though, for that game because you're right in the middle of. It's, you know, AFC NFC Championship week. We just had the divisional round. You have MLK Day. You have the inauguration. It's like, of all those things, they.

[Jason Demers]

Should have done it on Friday because Friday was the day that nothing really happened.

[Bobby Bones]

Should have did it a week ago.

[Jason Demers]

Or that too. But they give him that whole week buffer.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. You start the season week earlier.

[Jason Demers]

That'd be cool. I'd be cool with that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Bad scheduling on their part.

[Eddie]

Yeah, they'll tweak.

[Kevin]

What about getting rid of conference championships and just starting everything a week early?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm in with that, too. I'm fine with that too. Mostly because I don't like how they're affecting the college. We've only done it one year. How they're affecting the College Football Playoff. And they're like, even if you lose your conference championship, you shouldn't lose. I think I'm Okay. With the conference championship games, if everything can remain fluid. And what that means is I just need a definition of what we're looking for instead of everybody arguing about what should happen and if the group is going to penalize a team for losing and they like if the rule is you make it, you were already making it before, we're not going to penalize you. Let's just state it ahead of time. If you were already. What I would like and they do it is they go, here's what it would be if it were today. This is what the bracket would look like. And so if they just said. Because they indicated it but they weren't married to it. Anybody that goes to a game, we can't see them not making it. If they lose their conference game, just say it. But then again the conference having a conference champion is fun but they're so big. You may have three people winning the Big Ten.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like you. Because again there are so many teams and you can have a bunch of one loss teams because teams don't play each other. So I just hope and I think there will be for more definition of what they're looking for in order for the playoffs to happen. I think they will tweak those for the top four teams the next year. I don't think they'll do that. I don't think we'll have Boise in Arizona State getting a buy, right?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, they're going to change that and.

[Bobby Bones]

I think they have indicated that they could possibly tweak which means they're going to fix that.

[Jason Demers]

Would Notre Dame and Ohio State. I guess Ohio State would have been in the top four.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And Notre Dame.

[Jason Demers]

But not Notre Dame, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

If this were two years ago, I'd.

[Bobby Bones]

Have to think back. But you would go or you go Oregon. You would go Tex. No, Texas. Texas would probably be in the top four.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Or Georgia.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I think. Oh, Georgia beat Texas championship. Yeah, you're right.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Alabama.

[Jason Demers]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I'd have made a lot of money if they made it. Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

I guess just Ohio State. Really? Notre Dame wouldn't have been.

[Bobby Bones]

Georgia would have been there though. And they were. Yeah. Because they won the even in the Big Ten.

[Kevin]

Like Penn State and Oregon played each other. Not even Ohio State.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I just have to make it 16 teams.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's do 64. Screw it, dude.

[Jason Demers]

Like, like March Madness.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Start the season as a 64.

[Jason Demers]

Oh my gosh, that'd be awesome.

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say With Bobby Bones and Matt Castle between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you. When you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Bobby Bones]

So Eddie broke his arm roller skating.

[Jason Demers]

It was my son's birthday, and. And he's six years old. He wanted to go roller skating.

[Bobby Bones]

It's bothering him, I can tell you that. I can tell it hurts. And it's bothering you?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, I think my pain pills ran out. Like, just so I'm feeling everything, honestly. It's just. I can't. There's no place I can put my arm, even in this sling, where it doesn't hurt. It just hurts every way I put it. If I lean it on this rest, this armrest, it hurts. If I put in the sling, it hurts. It just. It hurts the whole time.

[Bobby Bones]

I hate that for you. Did he say where it broke?

[Jason Demers]

He said it broke. In the radius bone right below the elbow.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that something they're gonna have to reset or have surgery on?

[Jason Demers]

I will find that out in about an hour.

[Bobby Bones]

What did they. What did that do? Because you went to like a general emergency room doctor, right?

[Jason Demers]

Went to the E are? Yeah. So I broke it on Saturday night. And I was like, I'm just gonna toughen it out. I'm gonna sleep. And then at 7am I'm gonna go to urgent care and then they'll X ray and tell me what's up. I didn't make it. It was like three in the morning. I woke up crying and I'm like, I need to go to the emergency room. Like, this hurts so bad.

[Bobby Bones]

I really feel bad for you because it just seems like something an 11 year old does. Breaks an arm. Yes, Roller. Yeah, I know.

[Kevin]

Like, that sucks.

[Bobby Bones]

It does suck.

[Kevin]

Especially your right arm.

[Bobby Bones]

We can put together our differences on Brady and Mahomes to come together and say, dude, that sucks.

[Kevin]

That sucks.

[Jason Demers]

Thank you, guys.

[Bobby Bones]

That means a lot.

[Jason Demers]

I can tell how hard that is for you guys.

[Bobby Bones]

So. But with a broken arm, there have been conspiracy theories about your broken arm.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, did Reed send one in?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. What do you. Why, what do you think?

[Jason Demers]

I feel like Reed would be like, he's just trying to get out of workouts.

[Bobby Bones]

Interesting conspiracy theory that Reed would think you don't want to work out for a while. Not true. By the way, it's your second broken bone though, in like six months. Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

Last year I broke my foot.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

This year I broke my arm. I just need to change my lifestyle, dude. Something's got to change.

[Bobby Bones]

This was roller skating. I don't know if this is a lifestyle thing you normally do, though.

[Jason Demers]

It is. Because when you go to the roller skating rink and they say, hey, come on, let's go skating, you say, no, I'm 45 years old. Yeah, I'm good.

[Bobby Bones]

So you don't want to do too much access and go, that's different, dude.

[Jason Demers]

That's different.

[Bobby Bones]

You broke your foot in St. Louis trying to cover second.

[Kevin]

He's for sure a 12 year old now.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah. No, no, I still want to do too much access.

[Bobby Bones]

Kevin has a conspiracy theory about your arm.

[Jason Demers]

Of course.

[Kevin]

Yeah, Eddie, we talked about it last week. You brought it up how you think you're stronger than me. And then Casey with the great idea of saying, all right, let's have them compete and throw the medicine ball over.

[Bobby Bones]

Throw the 100 pound ball.

[Jason Demers]

That's right.

[Kevin]

100 pound ball over your shoulder. How Many you can get in one minute. And loser loses out on the Super Bow ticket. And how convenient. You come back the following week and your arm is broken and you can't work out. So I think you did this to get out of the competition because you know you're going to lose and you want to go to the Super Bowl.

[Jason Demers]

It's a great theory, man. Great. The. I really wish that was it. Then I would tell you. Okay, I'm just joking. Let's just do it. But it's not. Dude.

[Kevin]

But you didn't, like, mean to get hurt. Like, I don't think you meant to break your arm, but, like, maybe you meant to, like, I don't know, sprain your wrist and then we never saw an X ray.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, I'll ask for one today, because they're going to take one today. The ER doctor, like. Like, it was weird. He came in, he's like, all right, so here's what it is. And then he's like, I'm going to double check with the radiation, though, to make sure what I saw was correct. And then next person that came in was the nurse, said, you're ready to go home. So I never found out, like, what the. The radiation doctor said.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it called a radiation doctor?

[Jason Demers]

Well, he said, oh, imaging. He said, imaging doctors.

[Kevin]

Radiation.

[Eddie]

Uranium. Just right in that arm.

[Jason Demers]

Plutonium.

[Kevin]

The sleeve just looks like anything you can pick up at Goodwill.

[Bobby Bones]

Exactly. Like, you can just go grab that at Walmart. So is there a chance today you go in and they're like, no, dude, it's just bruised.

[Jason Demers]

No, no, because it's. What? How many days has it been? Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I mean, it's been like. It hurts, dude. I can't even rotate my wrist.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think that because of your broken arm that you should just be allowed to have one of the super bowl tickets and you shouldn't have to compete in any way?

[Jason Demers]

Oh, that's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're gonna do a physical competition. There's no way I can compete with.

[Bobby Bones]

You if you get mental. Dude, you could do the 50 pound with one arm, and then he could do that. He could do the 100. That's fair.

[Kevin]

We can even this out.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, no, no, because I'm telling you, man, even, like, I was talking to someone yesterday, and I put my hand out kind of like, I don't know. But I moved my right hand without even thinking, like, I don't know. And I was like, ow. God, that hurts so bad. So there's no Way I can pick up anything with my left arm without my right arm even. Just. Just not thinking about doing. Helping out.

[Bobby Bones]

And in your opinion, there should. Instead of four people fighting for three tickets, it should be two people fighting. Two people fighting for three tickets.

[Jason Demers]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

And you should.

[Jason Demers]

I'm in.

[Bobby Bones]

Broken armed. In.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, I'm in. I broke my arm. Like, sorry. Dude, this is terrible. You're going to the Super Bowl.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, it's been tough not to, you know, bring it down any further, but I saw where the Cowboys have the longest NFC championship game drought in NFL history.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

To add to the broken army, because look at the command. I mean, the commanders are in.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

One year after being terrible.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, and you know, their head coach is our ex defensive coordinator.

[Eddie]

That's true, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

And then the Eagles, their offensive coordinator was our old offensive coordinator. It's just sad, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a picture of me and the commander's head coach, Dan Quinn, on the field at the Cowboys game.

[Jason Demers]

Did you guys know each other?

[Bobby Bones]

No, but I just said. Can I get a picture?

[Jason Demers]

Okay. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Kevin]

Need a big dude. Dude, he looks pretty big.

[Bobby Bones]

I need to look back at the picture. I think so. I think he. I don't know.

[Jason Demers]

His upper body looks big.

[Kevin]

Yeah, he looks me like, dude, like.

[Jason Demers]

His chest looks big.

[Kevin]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it. I was thinking about putting it in, like, ar. Sending it to Reed because he's wearing, like, blue because he was a Cowboys coach. But, like, having Reed turn it into commander's colors where it's like, I'm on the field at the commander's game with the commander's head coach.

[Jason Demers]

I think you should do it. Yes. I mean, that's what they do when someone commits. Right. Or they're transferring. Oh, yeah, I do it. It.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, maybe I do that.

[Jason Demers]

Funny.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we have to. We have to work on the super bowl thing still.

[Kevin]

I was looking forward to that one.

[Jason Demers]

I'll tell you what, though, dude, it's pretty cool telling people, like, yeah, I might go to the super bowl this year.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think you're saying might if I'm being honest, because I don't talk about it. You're saying you're going, who?

[Jason Demers]

Who?

[Kevin]

Who?

[Jason Demers]

Who'd you hear me talk to?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just saying you're telling people you're going to the Super Bowl.

[Jason Demers]

Maybe. I think I said, maybe I might go to the Super Bowl.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you're going.

[Eddie]

It is a flex. I mean, I get it.

[Jason Demers]

I mean, it's crazy, dude. If I get to go to the Super Bowl. If any of us get. Sorry, Reed. If any of us get to go to the Super Bowl. Dude, it's pretty. That's pretty amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, it's weird. I was watching these guys kick barefoot and in the warm up, some of the guys were kicking barefoot. I. I can't kick anyway. To kick barefoot seems so painful. And it was cold too.

[Jason Demers]

I don't know why they would do that.

[Bobby Bones]

But why does. But how can anybody kick barefoot? Because some guys will just even like on Instagram, they'll kick 50 yard field goals. Like, what? And they want to do it barefoot. I don't even know where to kick the ball. I guess the top of your foot is where you're supposed to kick it.

[Jason Demers]

You didn't know that because when we were doing too much access, you were.

[Bobby Bones]

Kicking 1920s Charlie Brown.

[Kevin]

The toe.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. No, literally. Yeah, but wouldn't that hurt?

[Jason Demers]

Like the guy with half a foot? Who was that?

[Bobby Bones]

Chuck. He had the longest field goal for a long time.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, he played for the Saints. Do you know that, Kevin? Half a foot.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you look up the guy's name with half a foot. Tom Dempsey. Tom Dempsey.

[Jason Demers]

That's it.

[Bobby Bones]

Good one. Yeah. It blew my mind. They were kicking barefoot. One in the cold, but barefoot at all. That feels like it would hurt. Eddie, could you cook barefoot?

[Jason Demers]

Nah, I've done it.

[Bobby Bones]

Does it hurt?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, it hurts really hard.

[Bobby Bones]

Why do they choose to do that?

[Kevin]

Maybe snow.

[Jason Demers]

The feel of the ball, like knowing exactly where to kick it. I have no idea, dude. It sounds stupid to me.

[Bobby Bones]

They were talking about the feel of the ball and this I understood where the. The. The kicker, the plate, the placeholder. Had to catch it, spin it. Yeah, that they don't. They can't catch it and spin it with gloves on because they're. They're wearing gloves and their hands are so cold. But they don't want to wear gloves because with that you do need to have extreme control the ball. So those guys, they're taking the snap, putting it down, spinning the ball before the kicker kicks it. With gloves, obviously the ball will not be as active, will not move as fast. Because your gloves are there for a reason, which is to create traction.

[Kevin]

Huh.

[Jason Demers]

And what I've also heard is that they shaved the football down. The kicking footballs. I think those are different footballs than the actual footballs they use to like, just on a regular play.

[Kevin]

Didn't we ask that in one of our trips to the byu? Was it byu?

[Jason Demers]

Oh, maybe it was byu.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe I heard that they would take Balls and deflate them.

[Kevin]

I knew this was coming.

[Bobby Bones]

What's up?

[Kevin]

I knew this was coming.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah. So the quarterback could grip it better.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And throw it. And throw it further and easier to catch.

[Kevin]

It went 43 to 6.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I don't think the playgate was a real thing, by the way. I think it was. I. I rooted for the Patriots.

[Jason Demers]

That's funny, dude.

[Eddie]

Spygate.

[Jason Demers]

That's.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you. I'm sorry about your Cowboys, though.

[Jason Demers]

Whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, who's going to coach you, man? Because they're starting to fall into place.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

I saw, though, your Ben Johnson guy, you got taken to the Bears. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And it was Raider, Raider, Raider, Raider, Raider, Tom Brady, Raider, Raider, Bears. Crazy.

[Eddie]

If I was a Lions fan, I would hate him for going to the Bears. Right. And because it seems like he wasn't really his best game either. This last one against Washington. I don't know.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's a tough way to go out on.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like, it's professional. Are you gonna be angry at somebody taking a head coach job? And they will play them twice, though, every year.

[Eddie]

I'm just saying.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's tough. Although I wouldn't, because they kept going. Don't count Jacksonville out. And the only thing about Jacksonville that. Well, the one and a half things is one, it's warm. Like, that's a big part of where I want to live.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, yeah. Florida.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, Chicago's an awesome city, but during the winter, awful.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then you kind of have a quarterback in Trevor Lawrence. Like, possibly that's one and a half reasons why the Raiders. I just can't see anybody going to the Raiders and winning.

[Jason Demers]

Vegas, I hear Vegas is a nice town.

[Bobby Bones]

But winning, like, what's that, culture?

[Jason Demers]

No, no, you're not gonna win. You're just going to go to Vegas and live there.

[Bobby Bones]

They haven't won in so long. I cannot visualize them winning.

[Eddie]

I guess Brady being there is the. The only thing that's.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's why he was considering coaching there is what I heard. Like, he wasn't even gonna take an interview.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Or talk to anyone. So the OC for the Lions and the DC for the Lions are supposed to be Chicago, New York, the Jets. I mean, that's the rumor. Yeah.

[Eddie]

I mean, I'm happy for that. Yeah. We'll see how it goes.

[Kevin]

What about your boy getting interviews with Jacksonville?

[Eddie]

Oh, Salah.

[Kevin]

Salah.

[Eddie]

My favorite coach of all time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I mean, I don't really understand how he could get another.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. But. But now that you see it don't you realize it wasn't his fault?

[Eddie]

It's definitely. It was part of his fault. He was not a good leader of men. I don't know. He's a good coordinator like most of them are. You know what I mean? Not all of them, really.

[Bobby Bones]

I felt like he was leading me pretty good. I liked it. I like when he say stuff. No breaks.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I liked it.

[Eddie]

I saw that they weren't listening.

[Jason Demers]

He interviewed with the Cowboys.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw McCarthy looks like he could be the coach of the Saints.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Again, they're just predicting at this point, but some of the guys that are pretty in on think McCarthy could be the coach of the Saints, which would be interesting. McCarthy's a good coach. And then here we are back in Dallas, and I think they're probably. If I were to pick two people I could see taking that job. Eddie, who are your two people?

[Jason Demers]

Dion and Riverboat. Riverboat. Ron.

[Bobby Bones]

No chance. It's Ron Rivera, dude.

[Jason Demers]

I mean, we would just talk to him.

[Bobby Bones]

No chance.

[Jason Demers]

And he even said the Cowboys hit me up. I gotta think about that. I don't know, dude. Me, I feel like that'd be the perfect fit.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like you need some. But. Okay, before I say this, Kevin, who are the. Who are the two people you think could take that job?

[Kevin]

I would say Cliff and Dion.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? I would. I'm going to go three then. Because Cliffs especially. Especially with the commanders winning now.

[Kevin]

Exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

If they had lost this last week, I don't think I put Cliff in the probable conversation. But I think that now gives Jerry enough of. And also, Cliff was good in Arizona for a while. Like, it's not like he was a bad coach.

[Kevin]

And I don't know if it really matters, but he's a Texas guy from there.

[Jason Demers]

He is. Oh, yeah. I guess so.

[Bobby Bones]

And he coached Texas Tech. Cliff's good one. Casey, I think Kellen Moore, that's my guy, too. Who I think. And he's been there.

[Eddie]

People he knows. But that's.

[Bobby Bones]

What did he do? He was a coordinator.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah. I don't know. We want.

[Kevin]

I think he was handcuffed there, too, wasn't he?

[Bobby Bones]

You would rather have Ron Rivera, who we love. Love, who is older. His ceiling is not that high. You bring Rivera into. Fix your program like Washington did, like when it's just in disarray.

[Jason Demers]

We said there were a lot of questionable offensive coordinator calls when he was with the Cowboys and even now with the Eagles. I don't think he's killing it with Eagles. I think the Eagles have the tools.

[Bobby Bones]

Are in the NFC Championship.

[Jason Demers]

And I'm not crediting the OC for that.

[Bobby Bones]

Why not?

[Jason Demers]

Nah, I credit Hertz, I credit Brown, I credit.

[Bobby Bones]

And those two people you're crediting, what side of the ball? Those three. What side of the ball would be execution.

[Jason Demers]

Wait, they're the executioners.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, they'll be killers. That'd be. They were murdering people.

[Jason Demers]

They're the ones that execute it.

[Bobby Bones]

So my question is, what side of the ball are those three on?

[Jason Demers]

Offensive side of the ball.

[Kevin]

He's like a little kid.

[Jason Demers]

I don't buy it, dude. And how old is Kellen Moore? He looks like he's 10.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he's older than he turned 14. I think Kellen Moore would be a good pick.

[Kevin]

Yeah, that's a good one, too. Or Joe Brady's.

[Bobby Bones]

Another one.

[Eddie]

One, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Would be good. Again, all these guys are playing, right? Joe Brady's not playing.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, I saw.

[Bobby Bones]

Coordinator. They're not talking to Witten. Yeah.

[Kevin]

What? Where'd that come from?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, dude, they're not talking away.

[Jason Demers]

The Cowboys. It's weird. The Cowboys posts on Instagram, who they've interviewed.

[Bobby Bones]

They have to. Everybody. Every team has to do that.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I think you just follow the Cowboys. So you think.

[Jason Demers]

No, they said that Witten interviewed.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I heard they talked to Whitten while they were. While they still had McCarthy. From my sources, about a job with the Cowboys. With McCarthy more than specifically a head coaching job.

[Kevin]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

Now also, you can interview somebody even if you don't plan on hiring them, just to see where they are in their maturation. In their coaching maturation.

[Jason Demers]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Because possibly you bring them in in a different role or you learn what they're about if they take a different job. So it's why the Rooney Rule exists. Meaning the NFL doesn't say go and you must hire a black coach. They're saying, if followed properly, if you interview a certain amount of black coaches, what's going to happen is you're going to have an understanding of what they're about, how intelligent they are, how great of a head coach they may be now or maybe in the future, you form this relationship that any person forms with another person through a process, and that if you don't hire them, then the next time around. Possibly. Or for another position, or you recommend them to somebody else who's hiring a coach. Right. It's all about relationships, and not just as humans, but understanding where these coaches are intellectually. So the same thing with Jason Whitten. There's no chance He's a head coach of the campus.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Kevin]

Eddie George interviewed for the Bears. And I know he's been a head coach. He's been for a little while now here in Tennessee, but that was random.

[Jason Demers]

What school does he coach at?

[Bobby Bones]

He coaches here at Middle Tennessee. Tennessee State.

[Kevin]

Tennessee State?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's hbcu. You didn't know he was a head coach for years?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

Didn't know that. I thought he was just chilling. Chilling with his millions of dollars.

[Bobby Bones]

I did run into him in New York once. He was super nice, but he had no idea who I was. I never expect anybody to know who I am. For the record, and I think I've mentioned this before. I just see him standing outside the hotel that I was in, and I'm like, hey. And I might have said, hey, Eddie. I didn't. It's a weird thing, because if I call him Mr. George, I'm an adult like him. And I never want someone to be like, this guy thinks I'm a hundred. Because I don't ever want to be like, Mr. George. And this guy's like, Eddie's like, Eddie George, whatever his name is. It's like, why is he calling me mister? And he's my age, so that could feel like it could be a bit disrespectful. So I think I might have said, hey, Eddie George, which is also weird to call someone by their full name.

[Jason Demers]

And he's like, that's me.

[Bobby Bones]

And then when you do that, you're automatically a fan, which I was. But there's no chance that you're going to then have a conversation as peers. Because if I'm like, hey, Eddie George. He's not gonna be like, I'd like to tell you some secrets about Mike. So I was just like, hey, Eddie George said, hey, I live in Nashville. Really nice to meet you. Whatever. I just said something. May I say, like, big fan or something? And he was like, oh, great. And then I was like, let me just test the waters. And I was like, yeah, there's body bones. I do it. And I could tell when I said that, I didn't even need to say what I did. He did not know who I was.

[Kevin]

Didn't click.

[Bobby Bones]

So then I just kind of gave up. I was like, I do. Okay. Anyway, hey, he was super nice.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But had no idea. And he's having success, and it's pretty cool to see the Bears interview him.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Which hopefully turns into something because they didn't hire him. Also, too, a great thing about the Rooney Rule is maybe again, the Bears have their list of coaches they want to hire, and you bring in somebody and you don't get your first one, two, or three, and you brought in somebody because of the Rooney Rule, and all of a sudden you're like, you know what? If we're like, our draft board, I'll take this guy at 4, and then 1, 2, and 3 fall, and you're like, oh, yeah, I really was. We weren't going to interview him because we didn't think we'd need to fall down three spots. And now we have it. I'm a fan of it. Some teams cheat, though.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah. They just get them in and get them out.

[Bobby Bones]

They're like, does anybody know nine black.

[Kevin]

People we can talk to real quick? And they check out the list.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like the pictures did that. Dude, this year, I was going to.

[Kevin]

Say the pictures posted, it was Byron Leftwich and Pep Hamilton. And I was like, like, this is super random. Like, oh, I know what they're doing.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like Robert Kraft was like, what? Black people are nearby to know football. I need to interview them real quick.

[Kevin]

Get them in here.

[Bobby Bones]

But again, even that could turn into something later on. So I am a proponent of the Rooney Rule, but it is funny to see people cheat it real quick and just go, who can we get?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, what is just that. That whole joke. That's funny. Robert Kraft.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, Sean, you know any black people? Can you get them here real quick? We need to tweet out. We've talked to a few of them, but at the same time, that could turn into something. Okay, Mike, one more break. Yep. Okay. Boom.

[Jon Stewart]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say. With Bobby Bones and Matt Castle between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going? To find a show with that much athleticism and football insight based in Nashville. We're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Cuz we got lots to say. I, I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you, like when, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennock]

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[Bobby Bones]

Eddie. Yo, I watched chiefsaholic.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, come on, dude, talk to me.

[Bobby Bones]

So chiefsaholic is a. I didn't know it was going to be two hours. Is a two hour documentary.

[Jason Demers]

I think I did watch in two days.

[Bobby Bones]

I watched like I broke it up. I watched it in one. It's a two hour documentary about the Chiefs fan who robbed banks to go to away games.

[Jason Demers]

His name's like, how bad? Xavier.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it looks like his name's Xavier. But he was telling his lawyer, he was like, it's like caviar.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, my lawyer's like, okay, Xavier. He's completely ignored it.

[Eddie]

All right, bro.

[Bobby Bones]

So this is, I think, regardless of anything that I say because it's tough to do a spoiler free when talking about a documentary because it's history. Yeah. And it's not like this crazy plot, but I'm gonna talk about some of the crazy stuff in it, But I'm gonna leave some stuff out. It's worth watching. Dude. It's insane.

[Jason Demers]

It's excellent.

[Bobby Bones]

And you know what? It has every. I felt bad for him because. Yeah. And again, I don't know chief's kingdom enough to even know who he was. Maybe I'd seen him on television a couple times when they show the crazy fans, though, those chiefs kingdom people. Like most fans. I think the only fan that I know is fireman Ed. Whatever his name is.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fireman Ed.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that's the only, like, super fan that is not being paid that I can identify. Can you guys identify any others?

[Jason Demers]

This is the raiders guys.

[Bobby Bones]

But no, I need you to identify one is my point, Because I can think of, like, little groups, like the browns have the dog pound, but fireman Ed is, like, the one guy that I know.

[Kevin]

There's a clippers guy. Clipper Ed, I think his name. No, Maybe I'm just thinking fireman Ed, but I think it's Ed.

[Jason Demers]

Maybe I don't know that guy.

[Bobby Bones]

San Diego chicken.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So I didn't know him, but he was, for all intents and purposes, the most famous of the Kansas city chiefs super fans. The crazy thing is he never had his face out as far as when he was at the games. For the most part, he wore a full wolf costume, covering his face, forehead to toes. A wolf.

[Jason Demers]

His best friends just knew his voice because he would never take the mask off.

[Kevin]

Really.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Well, his friend. His football friends.

[Jason Demers]

His football friends.

[Bobby Bones]

He didn't, like, wear it on Tuesday night at Avenue.

[Kevin]

Come over for dinner with that thing. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So he was chiefsaholic. Social media following. He ran warehouses, and that's how he made his money to travel. As they started to peel it back, you realize he really didn't do any of that. That. That he kept. He gambled a lot. Oh, big gamble. I was rooting for him, too.

[Jason Demers]

Big time.

[Bobby Bones]

Big time. Like, had a problem. It got to be a problem.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But he. He. He lived out of his car. His whole family lived out of their car.

[Kevin]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, grew up, terrible situation. Like, this is how he was able to find acceptance was being a part of chief's kingdom and being this character still lived out of his car. Car. Lived out of his car and then robbed out of his car. Like, that's the car that he drove to the games. And so. But found such acceptance in people celebrating him for being chiefsaholic that he wanted to grow chiefsaholic and make it Bigger and be everywhere. And how do you continue this lifestyle? How do you be. And that's the bad decision that he made, was in order to find what was missing in him. It was wrong. Rob banks.

[Eddie]

Very entrepreneurial.

[Bobby Bones]

He had it, too.

[Jason Demers]

He did.

[Bobby Bones]

He would have never been caught.

[Jason Demers]

He totally had.

[Bobby Bones]

He had it. He would, like, drop things. Like, he did so many. They didn't even know to look at some of these banks he robbed until after the fact.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

When they. He had it. He, like, would jump.

[Kevin]

Not every single one. I mean, I don't know if this gives up too much, but not everyone. No. Okay, confession. I started it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, but why is that a confession?

[Kevin]

Because I couldn't watch it.

[Bobby Bones]

Why? Oh, you had to. Okay, stop.

[Kevin]

I swear to God, I watched it five minutes in. I was like, I can't watch this crap. Anyway. Does he. Does he go in there? Does he go in there, like, with a gun every time or.

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Kevin]

Is it, like, secret or did I give it too much?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think that's a bad thing to share.

[Jason Demers]

I don't think so either.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a. Did you make it sound like BB gun? It looks like a gun, though.

[Jason Demers]

Everyone thinks.

[Kevin]

But he sticks them up every time.

[Bobby Bones]

Puts it in their chest.

[Jason Demers]

He does a real bank robbery.

[Bobby Bones]

And he's good at it. Jumps the counter, puts it at him. Knows exactly the big bills to get. Like, he became so efficient at it.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Jason Demers]

He says, no small bills. He knows what he's doing.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

He had done it successfully so many times.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think he ever would have been caught except for a couple. Like, the one that got him was the final. I mean, obviously the final one in Oklahoma, the Bixby, Oklahoma one. And then after they have them, though, is when they start to track back all the other ones. Ones. But I felt bad for him in a way of, like, his mom still lived out of her car. Like, very sad. Very, very sad upbringing.

[Kevin]

So the deeper meaning of it is a sad story.

[Bobby Bones]

But the sad doesn't win. The stupid wins. The sad. It gives you a 3D. This is a real life human who had some circumstances that were terrible and then made some bad decisions and doubled down on those bad decisions. And there comes a point where you have to go, man, everybody coming from such a tragic background didn't make all these bad decisions. But there's an understanding of why someone would do this. Like, he was taken away from his mom as a kid and put in a foster home. Because when they did have a house of an apartment, they were like, the situation is so bad to live in. You're not able to live with your mom. So he gets put in foster care. So all of that, that is what created Chiefsaholic. Because he wanted to have a purpose and wanted to have an identity. And then it got to where he wanted to fuel this identity fund. It. He wanted to be at every game. But then he starts betting a ton of money. He figures out also smart guy in that he figures out how to rob banks, but he also figures out how to wash money. What's that?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, launder.

[Bobby Bones]

Launder money and, like, going to casinos and, like, getting out a bunch of chips. That's a big part of he, like, launder. And I've not said a third of what's in that documentary. I loved how entertained I was by it. I felt bad for him. But also. And you can watch it to see what happens at the very, very end. He has a lawyer, too.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, my God.

[Bobby Bones]

And I remember this happening in real life where he would come out and be like, I believe this is only the first drive of the day. And it's first and 10. And by the end of this, when we score a touchdown, all his references are like, football.

[Jason Demers]

When he's talking about the case, he's talking about the case, but uses football term.

[Bobby Bones]

He looks like Spanky from Little Rascals. Like a little nerdy man. And then at the end, in a shocking twist, did you.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, yeah. Shocking.

[Bobby Bones]

Shocking.

[Jason Demers]

Took his suit off.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

He's like the biggest nerd. He's like the biggest nerd ever. Biggest nerd goober. And he takes his shirt off. He's got a whole sleeve tattoo. And you're like, what?

[Jason Demers]

I knew exactly what you're talking about.

[Bobby Bones]

That may have been when I took away most from it. Spanky had tattoos all in his arm. It's good.

[Jason Demers]

I was wondering too, like, how is this guy going to defend a chief Saholic? And his angles were so funny.

[Bobby Bones]

He was. Yeah, they had a big board up and they were like. But I. It's worth watching. I don't think I've spoiled so much of it. It's not worth watching. I only watched it because I was like, I don't want Eddie to keep going. Being disappointed in me for not watching it.

[Jason Demers]

Were you impressed with just the footage that they had?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, just awesome.

[Jason Demers]

Like, it should win an award. I don't know what. Aw.

[Kevin]

What kind of footage? The bank robbing footage or everything.

[Jason Demers]

Just the footage that they're able to get. Like, I don't think you could really do a documentary and understand who this guy was if you didn't have that footage.

[Bobby Bones]

And not just bank all social media from all of his. I mean everything, his car, his move was he'd go rob on his basically on foot, jump on a bike and then be riding a bike around. And then it was like mid December, a five degree day and there's a dude riding, riding his bike around a neighborhood and the cops like, well that's not normal.

[Jason Demers]

Like nobod the full suit or what do you.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no, he doesn't rob in the suit. And he crushes some bets too. I'm. I'm sure, you know, you never see what anybody fully bets. He crushes some bed stores where you root for him too and you root against him, but it's good. Watch Chiefs of Holic. I watch it on Amazon. I think that's where it is.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, Amazon. What do you rate it?

[Bobby Bones]

If I were to rate it to my wife, for her to watch it, I would say three and a half out of five for her.

[Jason Demers]

You think she would, would not enjoy?

[Bobby Bones]

I think, I think she'd be, she'd be like, okay, this is kind of entertaining for us. Four and a half out of five. There's so much. There's bank robbery, there's football, there's betting, there's all the stuff.

[Jason Demers]

The way the way the fans talk.

[Bobby Bones]

It made me feel like such a loser.

[Jason Demers]

It's so funny, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Also, I felt like a loser after the documentary was over because they're such losers. All, all of Chief's Kingdom, these massive die hard fans, like, they have cars that are like cheese. They dedicate their whole life to it. Yeah, they have, they have ball. Every signed ball from every third string right guard behind them. And they're like, it's all I live for. And in my head I'm like, oh man, these guys are such losers. Then I look in the mirror and I'm like, oh no, that's me. It looks like. Exactly. It's not even the room. It's just I invest so much emotionally. Yes. Then I, I caught myself going, I'm so glad I'm not a loser like them. Well, wait, and then how I am a loser like them. Not as out at times, but I am. And so I felt like such a loser and I had the little talk of myself. Maybe you care 12% less because you looked at somebody else that you don't know from a distance and went, oh my God, I'm glad I'm not them. And turns out you're very much like them.

[Kevin]

But you're never like. I. I mean, I see the guys in the Patriots game that are all face pain at the games and all this stuff. I'm like, dude, what are you doing?

[Bobby Bones]

I hear you.

[Jason Demers]

I. Yeah, that's not you, Bones. You don't.

[Bobby Bones]

I. In a different way, though, right? Like, my emotions. I've said this before. I don't experience rage in my life ever, ever, ever. Unless it's a loss. That's when I see red. It can run a whole day. Two days. It can.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I wanted to get rich so I could spend money to help the program. Like, that was one of my goals. That shouldn't be one of your goals as a kid, to be able to be rich so you can, like, go to games and spend money to help the team.

[Kevin]

That's pretty cool, though.

[Bobby Bones]

It's awesome. But that's why I'm, like, watching that movie going, oh, they're such lose. So am I. And I don't want to. But it's just a little perspective.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think you guys should watch it. No pressure.

[Jason Demers]

Kevin, you got to suck it up and watch it.

[Bobby Bones]

It's good, though. It's good. Real quick, next year's national championship odds. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. We'll go seven down. Seventh down is Notre Dame plus 1600. Sixth is Alabama plus 1200. Fifth is Penn State. Plus 900. Fourth is Oregon. Plus 750. Third is Georgia. Plus 552 is Texas, plus 500. And a very close one is Ohio state. Again, a plus 450. That's from DraftKings.

[Jason Demers]

They're banking on Arch.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say, you got. Texas is the only one. I know the quarterback. I mean, a lot can happen till.

[Bobby Bones]

Then, but great point. I think Oregon's quarterback, we all know who that's going to be. Whoever they can buy for the most amount of money for another team. Quarterback. That's what they've done the last couple times.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

And there's nothing illegal about it.

[Eddie]

No effective strategy.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, Alabama probably the same way.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, Jalen Milrose declared for the draft, right?

[Kevin]

I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm almost positive he declared. And if he didn't, he's. I'm sure I'll transfer.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Notre Dame. We know their quarterback because he's coming back, right?

[Eddie]

Is he?

[Kevin]

I know. I think Riley Leonard's done.

[Bobby Bones]

Is he a senior?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh. Oh, the. Those two quarterbacks last night are the same person. I know they're both like large, a little dopey.

[Eddie]

Not be able to distinguish.

[Jason Demers]

Howard.

[Bobby Bones]

They both. Yeah, they both run a little bit. They're sneaky athletic.

[Kevin]

They're like kind of good looking white guys.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Cornbread chubby faces. Like. Like they'd be fun to hang out with.

[Kevin]

Like, you'll see him in 10 years and be like, dude, this guy. And then you're like, well, actually he's quarterback for Ohio State.

[Jason Demers]

That's pretty cool when you're buying a car.

[Kevin]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know, dude. I think both of those guys could be NFL guys. Guys.

[Jason Demers]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Their frame. Their frames are both massive. They can move. They can like, they just look. They like they shouldn't be. They're just like. They're having too much fun out there. But I like them both. I like both of those quarterbacks when I watch them because they just. They look like they shouldn't be great, super athletic quarterbacks. But they're like sneaky athletic. But maybe just because they're white, they're sneaky.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that might play into it.

[Bobby Bones]

But also their faces are a little. You're both like a little chubby. Facey.

[Jason Demers]

A little chubby face.

[Bobby Bones]

A little full.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I like it.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Jason Demers]

All right.

[Kevin]

Yeah, he did declare. Jayla Miller.

[Bobby Bones]

I do declare. I do declare. All right, that's it. Thank you, everybody. I think we've said it all. Eddie, get some medicine for your arm. My mouth guard fit now. I'm gonna go to the dentist.

[Jason Demers]

You're going there.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Which is very much the same as yours. Same thing, ma'am.

[Jason Demers]

Same thing.

[Bobby Bones]

Read good. Yeah, man, him said a lot. You came through with one strong point though. I know, dude. I knew.

[Jason Demers]

What was that?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't remember. But I remember it was good. When he said it, I think he said Alabama winning something earlier and we were like, oh, it's a good point. Oh, half 50 versus 100. Oh, yeah.

[Kevin]

That was good.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a good one, though. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. Kevin.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Get a little match today?

[Kevin]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep, we will.

[Jason Demers]

You guys good? You guys good?

[Bobby Bones]

I. I don't have a dog in the. In the fight because I like both teams. I like the Patriots. I like them then I love a dynasty. I like the Chiefs now. I love a dynasty. It's so rare we get to witness greatness. And I can understand having fatigue of it. But my only point was.

[Kevin]

Thanks Eddie Mahomes.

[Bobby Bones]

Mahomes gets all of these calls because he stands on the shoulders of Tom Brady. Who is the one. Yes. Who is the one who.

[Kevin]

I think Brady stands on his shoulders.

[Bobby Bones]

But yeah, he possibly couldn't. It's before.

[Kevin]

Just kidding.

[Bobby Bones]

Mahomes gets his because Brady established the law of I'm the number one. I deserve preferential treatment. And they both do. Because if they get hurt, those entire franchises are wiped out. They're the NFL's most marketable players. ABCDEFG, but they're the same. And I can't wait for the Chiefs to be the best. All time. Three in a row.

[Kevin]

So easy to come from. Like when you don't have a dog in the fight. I get that.

[Bobby Bones]

Right. Because I'm just presenting logic.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, he's got a clearer picture. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

There is no bias here.

[Kevin]

That's why I love college football.

[Bobby Bones]

And it will be the greatest dynasty three in a row that's ever been seen in the history of the NFL.

[Jason Demers]

Might be.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? Screw it. Chief's kingdom. I'm part of you. I'm part of the Chief's kingdom. All right, we're done. We'll see you guys later on this week. Bye, everybody. Get it, Eddie Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host at producer Eddie, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, video producer at Reed Yarberry, and executive producer at Mike Distro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

[Jon Stewart]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me at former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers.

[Jason Demers]

Jason Immers here, And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, I got a lot to say here, too, okay? Each week we'll get together, chat with the sport that we love.

[Jason Demers]

Tons of guests are going to join in, too. But we're not just gonna be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies. We're talking TV, food, and an AD's favorite wrestling. It's all on Le Table.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to NHL Unscripted with Vir and Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.