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Yeah, it's going to get. So that's a good game tonight. We'll get to all that coming up in a little bit. I did want to start with if I say the name Alex Honnold. Eddie. Alex what? Honnold. H O N N O L D. Hockey player. No, he's a free solo guy. Do you ever watch the documentary? No. Oh. Oh, no. Free solo. He. That's Climb the Rock. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I did see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did see that documentary. This is a long time ago. Tell me about it. Then 10 years ago it was Yosemite or one of those where it's just. It's like a big rock and that's all I remember. He climbed it. Maybe you just saw clips. No, man, I'm pretty sure I watched the whole documentary. He lived in a van, didn't he? Yeah, had a girlfriend at one point, but he didn't break up with her. Now you're talking about stuff. Okay, now we're getting there. So maybe you did see it and he would like always do like pull ups in the van. Yeah, yeah, that's it. And he was psychotic and also they, they like measured him, tested him and like his heart rate never went up when things were dramatic, like he was whoa, ice cold just to do what he does. You can't freak out. And he always stayed the same. And so that's the guy that free soloed. What's that mountain called, Mike? El Capitan. Yep, there you go. Now. Okay, now you got it all. We brought it back slowly. Dude, this is in 2018 when it came out. Yeah, a long time ago. So he's doing a Netflix two hour live special called Skyscraper Live. Which rock climber Alex Honnold will attempt to become the first person to scale one of the tallest buildings on the planet. Taipei101. The skyscraper is the tallest building in Taiwan, the 11th tallest in the world, consisting of 101 floors standing almost 2000ft tall. And by the way, it doesn't say. But he has to be free soloing this or people wouldn't care. Yeah, because that's what he's free solo. That's what he does. From the Hollywood Reporter. That's crazy. But it's like we're watching to see if he dies. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like do we cut out if he falls? No, no, no. That's why we watch. But I'm just saying like does the broadcast like as soon as he falls. That's bad juju. But if he ever did. But, but you say bad juju. That's why we're interested. You think we're watching to watch him climb a building and make it to the top? No. Well we are, but we're watching that. But with the risk like the risk of him falling is what actually gets us to watch. If we knew the end of it we wouldn't watch it. Wow. It has to be live. If there was a TV show we recorded this last week and Alex Honnold made it. Let's watch him climb the top of the building. We would not tune in and care. Yeah, but because he's doing it live and there is a threat, a risk, we will be interested. Yeah. Dang. That's why we watch people on the high wire, you know, that's why we watch that guy that skydive from space. Yeah. That ended up kind of being dumb though. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. How did I miss that? You're right. A guy. Yeah. They took him up farther than anybody's ever skydived. Before, and he jumped out. Whoa. Was he in a spacesuit? No, I don't think so. Oh, so this is like, technically he was in space, but it was really just high. It wasn't like on the moon. He jumped off and held his. He jumped off and held his nose. Like he jumped into the pool. Got it. Yeah. I think this is interesting. And I will probably watch. Yeah, I will too. But man, that's. What are the details? Is this pay per view? Like Netflix? It's awesome. So, yes, we'll watch it. So, yes, pay per view. But you've already paid for it. Yeah, prepaid. Prepaid per view. I do that too. I'm like, oh, this one's free. No, no, no. I'm paying every month to watch this stuff. So I wanted to lead with that. I've now come into the algorithm on my TikTok feed of magician secrets. Like, they give away their secrets. They don't. Someone else does. And so I watched David Copperfield, who floated on a carpet all the way across the Grand Canyon on television in the 80s. And it's like, this is how he did it. And he goes through a ring first to show you that there's no wire, supposedly. And then he's flying over the Grand Canyon, just floating. And the camera scoots way back and you just see him floating. And then they break it down and they show you how he got through the ring and then how it was actually a helicopter way, way, way, way over. No way. I was carrying him. That was. He was connected to. But the camera had moved back just enough to show you a very wide shot. And there's no way he's being carried by anything. But it was just a really long helicopter. I wonder if I can find that. Does that kind of ruin it for you, though? Ruin it? Like, I don't believe in real magic, guys. Like, it was never real. It was never real. So I'm curious at how they pulled it off. I know, but it's like, dang magic. The maybe it's more fun to have the fantasy of, like, maybe you never know. Not for me. So maybe for you, that's fine. David Copper. It's like you guys are like telling a four year old that, whoa, whoa, whoa, easy. Whatever you're about to, you know, candy is not good. Wide canyon. Can you figure out how he did it? In 1984, the famous magician David Copperfield performed a leap over the Grand Canyon in Colorado. Spanning 16,000 kilometers. This magic act shocked audiences worldwide because David actually appeared to be flying. Let's revisit the entire process of David's leap over the camp. I want to revisit the whole thing. But the camera moving from in front of David to behind him, passing through a door frame, and finally landing in front of the beauty. Now let's uncover the secret. In reality, David achieved this through a helicopter with suspended wires because the helicopter flew higher than the camera's view, making the wires invisible to us. How did David pass through the arches then? As we can see, when David passed through the arches, there was always a curtain behind him. Inside this curtain was a support structure. I watched, like, 10 of these in a row. I did see the Statue of Liberty one. They give away that one too. Yeah. They don't just show it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think Brandon's searching for magic again? My algorithm. Show me magic and don't ruin it. You know, we kind of went viral a while back when we. I exposed the. Remember that kid that threw a touchdown pass to himself? Like, they show him throwing the pass and then he runs, and then, like, runs really fast and catches it. Do you remember that video? Like a clip? Not like a game. No, no, it was a clip. It was a clip like out in the park or something. Yeah. So I debunked that. Do you remember that? Must have been, like, 12 years ago. No, Mr. Perfect did that in wrestling back in the day. He chunks, like 60 yards and then runs under and catches it and goes perfect. And then you realize it's just camera editing. It's a camera edit. Yeah, but it's so funny because, like, you debunked a camera edit. Well, because no one. It was. Everyone was like, this is amazing. This is so co. How did he do that? He's so fast. Look how he runs so quickly to catch his own pass. I'm like, guys, it's an edit. You don't see the ball. He throws the ball in the air. You never see the ball. So someone else chunks it. So we recreated it. Who did? Yeah, me and Lunchbox. But I think, are people just stupid that day? No, no, because they believed it. And then when they saw us, like, oh, you didn't do. That's not real. I'm like, no, that's exactly how the guy did it. But we had hundreds and thousands of views of that. Hundreds and thousands. Hundreds. Did you get paid for. Do you remember anything like this? I do remember them doing that. But was the video easily editing? Yeah, the original one. The original one, yeah. So people were like, why are you debunking something we already knew. No, no one thought that it was edited. The original one. No one thought that that was edited. They thought this guy was super fast. I just don't remember, so I apologize. It's okay. The one I remember that people thought was real was Tom Brady throwing the ball into the gun. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. The baseball wheel thing that they use it. Yeah. And then the hand machine. Yeah. And he thought, Ben, catch it, shoot it back out. That was editing. You guys should debunk that one. Yeah. Didn't Patrick Mahomes throw over the stadium, like from outside into Arrowhead? I don't know, but I think maybe that could happen. I think from the inside out. Wasn't it one of the two where he threw it from? I would need to see it because if it's like crazy crazy, I won't. I don't believe anything. I know. I. Throwing it in or out of a stadium is pretty crazy, but I think if you're outside of it, you can throw it over the wall. You think so? Well, with an arm that can throw like 70, 80 yards, I would think, like, if you're right on it, on the edge of the wall, obviously you need to back up enough to get the angle. Yeah. I don't know. I saw that Joe Milton. Oh, did you see the Joe Milton one with the moving guy? Dude, does he have to throw it from the outside parking lot to the field or can he just. Can it just go over the wall? Because I think over the wall, any decent quarterback then hitting the very top bleachers. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember. Oh, I don't remember. Holmes throws a football outside of the stadium. Okay, so those are from. In the stadium out. Yeah. Real or not? I think it's real. This is how everyone watches those videos. Like, wow, was it a Gatorade commercial or is it just like a random clip? Because then there was a fantasy football commercial back in the day where they were punching through walls and catching footballs. Remember Chris Chambers? And I remember that there was also the Christmas basketball one where they were playing the Christmas carol to the nets. Yes. That was cool. Oh, yeah. Is that fate? Of course. Wait a minute. Whatever. It was. All right, that's cool. We got some stuff to talk about. Who's going to win the Heisman? I made two bets before the year started, and they both are going to be losers because I had bet Lenore Sellers, South Carolina, he got hurt. Obviously, South Carolina kind of lost a little bit of their steam. And then I also bet Nessmeyer, lsu. He's hurt. Yeah. There's something up. They're not saying anything. No. So those are my two bets that are not going to win. Here are the leaders for the Heisman. Who do you think's gonna win? Dante Moore. I'm hope. I'm hoping Dante Moore because I have two of his cards. Oh, you didn't bet him, though? Nah. Are they signed? Cards signed? That's good. Are they graded? Not graded. Ucla. Because he was ucla, right? Yeah. I dug them up like three days ago. I'm like, where are these cards? They're here somewhere. Perfect condition. I think so. Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is the current betting favorite at plus 600. Let's go, baby. Yeah. Current favorite, but those aren't awesome odds to say he's going to for sure win it. No. Plus 600. Still make some decent money on that. John Mattier had been leading, but he had hand surgery with Oklahoma. So he's going to miss a couple games they played this week. I think Kent State and I think they're Texas next week. Yeah, and he should. I think he's missing both of those games. Miami's edge rusher Ruben Bane. I just don't see a defensive player winning it. Absolutely not. Diego Pavia. If they beat Alabama this week and he has a good game, he's. He's now up there in the top two or three. That'd be awesome. South Carolina running back Robert Henry Jr. Averaging nine yards of carry. And Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson. His name's Brayson Simpson. That's why they call him Ty. I did not know that. How do you get Ty from Brayson? I need to make sure this is right. Is his name Brayson Simpson? I did not know Ty was Brayson. Real name is this says his real name is also Ty Simpson. Tyler James Simpson. I wonder why it says Alabama quarterback Brayson Simpson has thrown for 1100 yards. That's weird. Yeah. CBS Sports. I can do the parlay this week. Here's what I have. Would you mind typing this in, Kevin? Yep. See what the odds are. So here's what I'm going with. Hold on, let me pull it up. Kentucky at Georgia. I'm going Georgia -20 and a half down. Penn State at UCLA. This is a Penn State. Hey, don't forget about us. We're still good game. I'm going Penn State minus 24 and a half. Got her down. Did you say Kentucky plus? No, you missed it. Trains. Trains moved on. Oh, come on, man. At the station, dude. I need to jump on this parlay. I'll go back over in a second. Texas Tech -11 and a half at Houston. It's not even an away game, so we got Georgia minus 20 and a half. Oh, minus 20. Got it. Penn State minus 24 and a half and Texas Tech minus 11 and a half. Yep, plus 589. Hey, that's good. I like it. It's basically the Dante Moore bet pretty much. If you want to get in on the parlay or make your own parlay, DraftKings has an awesome offer for new customers. You can turn a five game $5 bet into 200 bucks in bonus bets if your $5 bet wins. Pretty cool. All you have to DO is download DraftKings sportsbook app. Use the code Bobby Sports. The word the code Bobby Sports. Turn five bucks into $200 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler in New York, call 877-8-Hopeny or text hopeny. That's 467-369 in Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-78-9-7777 or visit ccpg.org Please play responsibly on Behal and Resort. Kansas fees may apply in Illinois 21 plus. Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. Bet must win to receive reward. Minimum minus 500 odds. Required bonus bets expire seven days after issuance. For additional terms of responsible gaming resources, see DKNG CO Audio. What's up everybody? This is snacks from the Trap Nerds Podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long. Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill. Me and Tony bringing Backfire team on left for dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats. Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figuring out why black people always gotta die first. The umbral reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take ease. All sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special. And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale, Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trapper Nerds Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week. That is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes. Might wanna go back to the drawing board at the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might wanna go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again? Welcome to Brown Ambition. This part, when you pay down those credit cards, if you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem. A year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt and it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Eddie wants to walk us through some would you rathers? Yeah, these are just things dumb questions my kids ask me while I'm trying to watch football. So I was like, let me ask the guys. Okay? Would you rather be an NFL running back or an NFL receiver? I would rather be an NFL wide receiver. Longer lifespan. You're just not getting hit all the time. I mean, you peak at 30 that. You know, that's. That's what they say. There are a couple that beat that. 30 years old, they start to look at you as you got too much tread off the tire. Yeah. Wide receivers, you can be 34. Yeah. An extra three or four years if all things are the same. Yeah. And wide receivers are a little more in demand right now. Like, more offenses are built around wide receivers than they are running the ball. Get paid more. Oh, yeah. Everything. Yeah. I would go wide receiver. You? Yeah, I do the same thing easily, without question. They get paid more than running backs. Yeah. Unless you're Saquon. But then even you compare the highest receiver to Saquon, it's the receiver still getting more. Especially like Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. They're making more than Saquon, I believe. Yeah. And that's the best versus the best. I'd rather be a quarterback, though, than. Than what? Anything. Quarterback. Okay. I think most people think they can play quarterback. Do you know what my problem would be? This would be my only problem. The memory of the place. Your only problem? I'd forget the place. I'm going to tell you why I don't think you would. Because when you hear them, it does sound like, wow. How do they remember all that? Yeah. What I would compare it to are all the buttons you have to push when editing things. There's like 42 buttons, and you know what they all mean. But you've learned that slowly from base on. And so you've learned how to do the main things, and you've learned the things that are on top of that. That's exactly what learning a playbook is. So they just kind of muscle memory after a while? No, it's all the terms that you know with more terms that you know. Yeah. So if you just walk into it and all the language is new and all the concepts are new. Yes. But if someone walked into what you're doing right now with all those buttons, they'd be like, I can never do this. This looks so intimidating because there's so much here. It's like when you walk in and look at the. In the cockpit of an airplane. Oh, so many buttons. Or a recording studio when they're singing. But I even think with a recording studio, we've done so much, we could figure that out. But it does look very overwhelming. I think that's what happens whenever you hear a quarterback play. It sounds so overwhelming, all these words you don't know. When it's all those words you don't know, you're like, I don't know any of this. This is going to swallow me up. But when you know what all the words means, it's much easier because they go together, too. Yeah. And they all mean something. As far as, like, one word will mean the linemen are doing something. One word means the receivers are doing something. And then in your head, you're like, okay, lineman here, receivers here. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. And that's. But that's the thing that it seems complicated is that the quarterback knows what everyone is doing. The linemen, if they only hear their keyword, then they get the. The command of what they're doing, but they're really just listening for that one key word. Well, the linemen are calling their cover. Are calling their blocking schemes as well, which is different. Oh, do they call their own, like, offensive? The center does. Yeah. Do a lot of talking on there. Yeah, you got him. You got him. Blah, blah, blah. Oh, that's why they point their fingers. No, they're talking crap. I hate you. Yeah, hate you. And then the quarterbacks have to look sometimes at their sleeve, like, at the menu. I'm like, gosh, that doesn't menu. What am I going to have? But talking with even Matt Castle a bunch, I've been able to be better at breaking down what plays mean. If someone's like, you know, 32 base dive alert, 28 30. I'm like, oh, that's two plays. So that's like 28 base dive alert. Means if he calls alert, they're. They're going to the second play. That's the backup. That's the second play. They'll call two plays at once. So when you see them on the line going, alert, alert, all they're doing is saying, I called two plays at once. And you heard the second play. So we're changing now. That is so cool. Depending. And the quarterback depends on what the defense is doing. He looks at the defense setup. He's like, all right, we're changing it. Yeah, that's so cool. And it just sounds like a bunch of words with alert in the middle. But then you realize, oh, okay, alert is actually the middle. If he says that, here's the second play. But, yeah, because I feel like I could have been a quarterback, man. My arm is good. Like, I have a good quarterback arm. I remember when I played in high school, I was a receiver. I wasn't a quarterback. But the quarterback was always like, let me warm up with Eddie. That said a lot. Probably I didn't need you out doing the rest of stuff. Well, yeah, I didn't start. I wasn't going to be. Yeah, I wanted to be there at the beginning, but he wanted to throw with me because he kind of get a good rhythm. Did you ever try out. Why would a quarterback want someone who could throw good back to him? That was just the rhythm, man. The rhythm of, like, just back at you. Because I remember this one guy was like, all right, I'll warm up with you, Danny. And he's like, no, no, no, Give me Eddie. I want to warm up with Eddie. Did the coach ever go up? Just. I don't know. Maybe. Did you hear the coach being like, hey, warm up with Eddie so he feels involved? Like, I demand you warm up with Eddie. He didn't catch any balls in practice this week. Let's. Let's get him over here. We need to give him a shot. Yeah. All right. What else you got? Let's see. Would you rather be a kicker or a punter? That's a tough one. I think this one's. This one's tougher. It's definitely tougher now. Kickers are more famous. Yeah. Kickers also have more pressure, lots of stress. Kickers get cut a lot more than punters do. You get a strong punter, you really can't lose that job. Yeah. You miss a few kicks in a row, you'll lose your job. Oh, yeah. Unless you're Mason Crosby. And even then when you suck, they're like, should we cut Mason Crosby even though he's been a fixture and eventually they cut Mason Crosby, but it took, like, 12 years. Yeah, but it did. Yes. I mean, you got to be Justin Tucker and be doing stuff. Pretty much. Even Young Ho Ku, he was like, the best kicker in the game last year. Freaking Falcons. Done. They even put up a message thank you, Young Hoku on their Instagram when they cut him. Yeah. For your service to our team. Goodbye. Why did they cut him? He kept missing kicks. Oh. Because they. Because they framed that as like he was missing the game for, like, personal reasons. No, they cut him. Dang. Yeah, Personal reasons. He couldn't make a kick. He personally couldn't make a kick. Personally, Yes. I think because of my ego. It's kicker of the two. You want to be like, I want to. Yeah. I want a shot to be the guy. And you do. You do get a shot. I think if it were just about having consistency and having a spot in the league, I think that attitude probably goes to a punter. For me, I want to put my balls out there. I want to prove. And I'll take the risk of being cut. So I would go kicker. But my life has not been about finding what's consistent. My life's about being. Trying to be dynamic and then seeing what happens and hopefully not getting cut. Yeah, that's the story of my life. Yeah. What would you rather do? I'd probably rather punt. Just because I think that'd be such a great lifestyle. Like you could do 10, 15 years, be chilling punting all practice. We've been to some of their practices. The punters are just like off to the side, just hanging out, throwing balls around, kicking balls. What about the fact that the punter has to hold a lot, though? Yeah, I'd be like, can the back quarterback do it? He's better at holding the ball. Yeah, he's more comfortable with football. But that's a good point. Nobody ever talks about the holder enough. The only time the holder gets talked about when he screws up. Yeah, but I can hold. Let's do it, man. And then I would, I would just yell, fire. Fire. And roll out and do a two point play every time. There you go. They're like, you've done this four times in a row. He's cut. Yeah. Okay. I think I'd have a problem being the punter because no one wants to see me play ever. Yeah, because you only come out in bad situations. You only come out with things that's fair. But man, when they get fired up, they're so funny too. They like jump up and down and start flexing. I think it would be cool too, to fake. Fake a hit, you know, like rough on the kicker. Like, I think that's kind of cool. Like when just. They just tap you a little bit, you do leave yourself very vulnerable as a punter. Let that leg up there. I, I think the punter is probably a better overall job. Life expectancy. Yeah. Safe quality of life. Not going freaking crazy. Have you played in the NFL? Yeah. And you don't lose your job as easy. I think that's a big part. Brandon, what would you rather do? I'm going to say I want to punt for the Colts this season because they've only punted like once or twice. So you. You don't want to play really? I don't want to play. You're just saying you're a big fan. Yeah. Nope. I Thought he's like, I'm Big McAfee, guys. Yeah. Okay, next up. All right, the last one. Would you rather be an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator? For me, it's easily offense because I play fancy football, so I only really pay attention to the offense. It's the only thing you ever done. That's a good point. Yeah. So that it just seems more fun. And it's an offensive game now. Yeah. So I think you want to be a head coach. It's probably not always, because a lot of the culture, defensive guys get the job, but you want to be a head coach, be freaking great as an offensive mind. So I'd go offense there. Yeah. I'd probably do this more glamorous, too. It'd just be more fun. Like, defense is tough. Especially nowadays. My shoulders aren't broad enough to be a defensive coordinator. No, you can be kind of squirrely and be an offensive coordinator. You can be like Mike McDaniel. He ain't a defensive coordinator. No. It doesn't matter how much he studied. He ain't gonna be a defensive coordinator. Like, you got to be, like, a big dude to be a defensive coordinator, or the defensive players aren't going to trust you. Like a Robert Sala. Yeah. Like, he looks like he could go out there and play defense right now. Yeah, Like a variable. Oh, yeah. He doesn't look like he can play right now. Variable. But he gets out and practices right now. Yeah, dude. Brandon, what would you rather be? Look at me. Offense. Duh. Yeah. Look at you. Yeah. Fresh haircut today. Hey, thanks, man. Thanks, Eddie. Yeah, I noticed when he walked in, Eddie brought it up. You know what I tell my kids when they ask me these questions? I don't know. Leave me alone. Who do you watch the game? We do 10 minutes on it. Yeah. Okay. You want to talk about signs at games? Yeah. I just been noticing people. I mean, they've been doing it for years, but, like, I want to ask you guys, like, have you ever taken a sign to a game? Because mad respect to the people that wake up, get tickets to the game and be like, you know what? I'm gonna get the poster board. I'm gonna think of something funny to ride on it, and I'm gonna take it to the. You have to take it with you everywhere you go. Yeah. And I feel like, hold it up. You can't hold it up the whole game either, because, one, your arms get tired. But two, it annoys the people around you. They can't see. Yeah. Yeah. No. I've Never taken a sign to a game ever. I feel like you would for an Arkansas game or something. No. Do you ever think about. No, not a sign. I thought about painting myself a couple times. Oh. And just decided it was too cold. What age? Yeah. This is important. College. Okay. This is like. This is for the Notre Dame game. I didn't end up going college. Okay, good. Just making sure. Is this around the time you storm the fields? Yeah, but I didn't do it. I. There were a couple times I was like, I should paint myself all black. Like, your whole body. Stop. Dude, that's tough though, right? Like, if you're a Purdue fan, like, I guess you'd go gold. You better. Oh, good. Yeah. If you and your buddy are okay. One of us gonna be gold, One of us gonna be black. No, no. You both need to be half and half. You need to be happy. Nobody's gonna be all black. We'll flip the coin. One of us is gold, one of us is black. That's a tense coin flip. Oh, man. You know what? I'm not going to the game. Guys, how much paint do you have to, like, buy to cover yourself with paint? Like, that's a. Just. That's an investment. It's a lot. You see the Cardinals guy last week who literally looked like a Cardinal Arizona in the stands? You didn't see him? Oh, his face. He literally, like, painted a beak on. I swear, dude, if those guys don't, like, get on TV or tagged in something, I bet their days run. Oh, yeah, all that work. I think I would more likely take a sign to a wrestling event than I would a football game. Yeah, they're more accepted. I. I haven't, but I think that would be Grace, my sister in law, took a sign to and got on college game day. No way. That's cool. Yeah. I need to ask Caitlin what the sign said because it was hilarious. I don't want to mess it up. Hey, we're doing 25 whistles and we're talking about signs in football games. Can you tell me or you can even text it? The sign. What was the sign that Grace had when she got on college game day? Because I don't want to mess it up because it was so funny. All right, thank you. I do like the signs that, like, troll other teams. You know, like they do on college game day. You know, if it's clever and witty. But I wouldn't bring one. I like the ones that, like, if it's on cbs, they do like, cbs and they do, like, can't beat Syracuse, I'll jump in and help you. I didn't know where you were going. I saw you struggling over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Those are old school. Those are cool. NFL fans, what's your favorite touchdown? For me? What's the next touchdown? Because with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in. DraftKings Sportsbook delivers the unmatched intensity of the NFL right to your fingertips. From first touchdown, scorer or anytime touchdown props or the thrill of live in game betting where every snap is loaded with opportunity. The best part? 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Bet must win to receive reward minimum minus 500 odds required bonus bets expire seven days after issuance. For additional terms of responsible gaming resources, see dkng co Audio. What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long. Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games. From Resident Evil to Silent Hill. Me and Tony bringing backfireteam on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats. Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always gotta die first. The umbral reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take heed, all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests Written and narrated by yours truly, with a full episode read and a commentary special. And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy. Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trapper Nerds podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. Sold that. Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Frank on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again? Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part. When you pay down those credit cards, if you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem. A year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets, I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt. And it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand and it's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away. Just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment, free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, I have a little game, and I'll wait for Caitlyn's text back. We're gonna do big take or big fake. Okay, so people swear by things like icing the kicker or the hot hand. Data says, either true or false. Okay. So I am going to throw a claim out, and you decide. I wrote big taker, big fake. That's kind of stupid now. I read it back. You said hot. No, no. Hot hand is one of the things that means, like, somebody's really performing well at the time, so keep giving them the ball. So, like, more of a true or false thing. Yeah, let's just do that. Okay. It's stupid. It's like the sign. Sometimes you just don't write something good on the sign. I didn't work this one out. Can't beat Syracuse. Okay, Icing the kicker. Icing the kicker. Do you think that's a true. Do you think it works or data has proven that it doesn't really work? Think about it. Kevin. Yeah, I don't. I think data will show that it has not worked. Brandon, I'm gonna say it hasn't worked either. Eddie. I'm gonna say data has shown that it has not worked, but I think it does work. Well, no, no, but data is showing. I'm gonna disagree with that. He's like, I promise the world's flat, even though they have proven it. The flat. No, it doesn't work. Timeouts. Oh, you want to hear the sign that Grace did? Yes. Yes. You got it. It was quick. This right on tv, she's holding up a sign. This says, I skipped my morning poop for this. Oh, my God. Whoa. For sure. They're like, I got a sign for you, director. And she's, like, small, pretty, athletic, and she's holding up. Skip my morning poop for this. And she's right on game day. Holy. When was this? It was at Oklahoma State. State. I don't know. Six, seven years ago, probably. Okay, never mind. Did you see it? No. I saw something similar a couple weeks ago. I didn't know if it was similar. They stole it from Greece. They had to have. Yeah. Okay, so icing the kicker. Timeouts mostly don't change make rates. Yeah. Pressure and kick distance are the real drivers. If anything, it ices the audience. It does. Because we're like, stupid Timeouts. Kind of pisses us off. Yeah. So, no, they haven't. They have determined that icing the kicker really does not affect the kicker. Would you do that? If you're a head coach, you think. Would you ice the kicker? I think my thing would be faking icing the kicker. Everybody knows it's going to come. And I would have my defense out there going, you know, we're going to call timeout anyway. You know, we're going to call timeout anyway. Just saying crap like that. Oh, that's good. And then not call timeout. That's a great idea. Would you run up to the ref with your hands ready like that, and then you never do it because then they might call timeout thinking your hands were closer. Yeah. Okay, so I think I would do the reverse ice. I do the heat. Oh. But I would definitely. I would definitely tell my team, go out there and act like, you know, we're about to call timeout. Like, you guys that are playing linebacker or rush in, like, you'll have to get down, just be like lollygagging and be like, we're going to call time out. Everybody chill. We're calling timeout. We're going to call timeout. For sure. For sure. And then don't. Dude, that's so. Got him. Wow. Okay, next up, the hot hand. In basketball, if somebody's on fire, get on the ball because they're. They're gonna stay hot. Easy breezy, Eddie. That's true, Kevin. Yeah, that's true. I've seen it so many times. Brandon. Based on my favorite game, NBA Jam. He's on fire. It's definitely true. The ball is actually on fire. He's heating up. Yes, he's on fire. From downtown, for example, a player hits three in a row. Did you keep giving the ball? Because the odds are he's gonna hit another. Right. It's not true. What are you talking about? I don't believe it. Streaks look real, but they're often completely random. And because somebody's made shots before, it doesn't mean they're gonna make the next shot. Yeah, I guess. Data. Okay, I didn't make this up. I know. They ever watched Steph Curry before. I think he's just good. I don't think that's even a street. He's an outlier. Yeah, but the same thing is that that's what they're saying with players, too. Like, for the most part, there's also confidence, where you're just a little more confident. Yeah. And that affects the game. But they Say no. The clutch gene. Does the clutch gene exist? That's like passing on with, like, to your children that your clutch. Well, it's not really a genetic passing to the child, but, like, you have it. You. You are just quality. When the pressure's on, you are better. Okay, what do you think? I definitely don't have that one. Are you writing it down? Yeah, yeah. I'm in. I'm in. I'm locked in. Kevin. Yeah. I watched it for 20 years. It absolutely exists. Tom Brady, Brandon. Growing up, I was a big fan of Robert Ori, and that dude came in clutch every single time. Eddie. Yes. I don't have an example, but yes, it exists. I think it's interesting, both of you, because even with every single time, you just remember the times it did work. That's true. Oh, because there were definitely times that it didn't. Yeah. There are definitely times where he missed shots. Like big. Big shot. Rob didn't make every shot, but the ones he did were so famous. Right. And with Tom Brady, it wasn't just Tom. It was offensive coordinator. It was. Yeah, he's making plays. So they say some players do perform well late, but year to year, it wobbles. And data has shown that these players that are making big plays, it's really just depending on that exact situation because some years those players do it really well, and the next year they don't at all. Okay. But we remember the ones when they do, and we assign that to them because let's say Robert Horry makes three three pointers at the end of three different games and wins three games, but he misses seven. The next year, he still big shot Rob, because he don't only remember the ones he misses. That's a good point. Well, I think even Kobe was like that. We know Kobe for all the big shots and being clutch, but, like, if you look at the numbers, I'm pretty sure they're pretty bad. Defense wins championships. I mean, I feel like. And I think they're also examples of people that break the general rule. I think Tom Brady, even Joe Burrow, I remember the story of him playing high school basketball, and he. It was like state championship game, and they put a heart monitor on him and he had to make free throws to win the game, and his heart never went up. Wow. Even with, like. I think there are people that are wired different. Doesn't always mean they're gonna perform different, but if you can keep your pulse down, you can think a lot clearer. Yeah, for sure. And so some people. There are the. Those People that are physiologically different. But this is general data, so it doesn't say that everybody's not that like a Tom Brady. Right. But generally speaking, the clutch gene with people who do perform, they find that it's different year to year. Did you see the heart rate on the Ryder cup players? They did that one of the days where they were, you know, right before they would hit the drive or whatever. You see the heart rate go up. Really? Oh, yeah. Right before they would swing. Mine would be like every freaking shot. I know. This is going to the woods. Yeah. Or Eddie Yellen. Water. Water. In case you didn't see it, defense wins championships. I mean, I'm ready. Yeah, I'm in. You? Yeah. Brandon. I want to say yes, but I'm going to say no. Eddie, I'm going to go with the trend. No. So here's what they say. Yeah, defense wins championships, but. Yeah, but so does offense. So it's just halfway. Like there are the occasional team that is so dominated by one side of the ball and you can go like Baltimore Ravens defense. But there are also offensive teams that have won with a great offense and a subpar defense. Like I think like Kurt Warner rams, they had a pretty good defense, but I don't think it was one of the best in the NFL. I could be wrong about that. It was the greatest show on turf. Okay, but the Eagles that beat the Patriots in the super bowl. Brady through 500 yards. Generally speaking, elite teams need both top tier offense and defense or top tier 1 and mid other to win a championship in the modern NBA and NFL. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. That is so straightforward. Like, dad is not having any fun with this. Data doesn't dream. They don't f around. Yeah, Dad, I don't want to play with your feelings. Oh, let me do one more. Momentum is real and last into next week. Oh, next week. I'm in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin, you good? Yes. Brandon, I can't remember if it was you and Castle talking about this, but somebody had a good point and I'm going to say no. What was the point? I don't remember. I couldn't tell you. No, no. It was the point of saying there was a question saying, like, does momentum help? Is momentum even real? And I think Castle said what you just said about like Joe Burrow, you know, when you're an even kill person and you're not affected by any of that, that you can, you can create opportunities when things are down. When things are up. Anytime. Eddie. Momentum on a drive. Yes. Going from week to week. No. So I'm just going to just say no. It's not real. In game, swings happen. But week to week, momentum fades. Once injuries, matchups and travel enter. There you go. Like, outside forces enter internal. Which is why it can more so be per game. Like, you'll have confidence. You get pumped out by the crowd. Then the opposite, where momentum continues week to week to week. Because of things that don't actually happen in the game. Yeah. Anyway. I don't know. That's interesting. No, that was interesting. Or not. That is interesting because, man, you can watch a game and you think, like, you see it, and you can summarize it one way just by how you watched it. But then you look at the data and you're like, wow, they were not a lot of completions. Hey, speaking of golf, did you play golf? I did. Did. I did. I went by myself. Got teamed up with a couple random people, man, it was interesting. You played? I haven't played at all. That was the first time I played since our thing. And you just were like, I'm just gonna go play. I had time. Usually I asked my wife, like, what are we doing today? She's like, nothing on the calendar today. Can't call me and be like, you wanna go play golf? You weren't here. I would have. You weren't here, but. So I get teamed up. I usually show up and I'm like, hey, you have room for a walker? And they go, oh, probably not, but put your name on the list. And they finally called my name, like 30 minutes later. I get teamed up with three guys. I'm walking because I like to exercise. I got a push cart. And then this one guy shows up in a cart by himself, and then another walker. And then the walker goes, you mind if I ride with you? Talking to the guy in the cart. And the guy in the cart's like, sure, man, no problem. Throw your bags in the cart. The guy throws his bags on the cart, his bag in the cart, reaches into his bag, gets a Bluetooth speaker, screws it to the side of the golf cart, starts blaring music. Never asked the guy once, like, hey, you mind if I play music? He just, like, made himself at home. And it was like Angels from Montgomery or something, you know? Like, it starts blaring it. And I start thinking, like, who is this guy? And I look at the other guy. I'm like, did you even. Did he ask you to play music? He's like, no, man, I don't know this guy at All. Both are weird because he's a walker who's, I guess, not wanting to pay the cart fee. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's much cheaper. Can I ride with you? Were you already past the first hole? No, we weren't. Hadn't even teed off yet. Oh, my. Oh, that's weird because you would think you would do it later. So you don't get seen by the pro shop. No, man. Yeah. That seems like a weird guy. Yeah. I wouldn't have the balls to do that. No. And a little bit I, like, respect it. I don't respect it because you can't do that, But a little bit I respect just the gall to do that. And the guy didn't say anything the whole round. Like, I'm say, he probably said a total of five words the entire round. That's weird. It was bizarre. You enjoy that experience? No, no. And I love to play golf by myself. I don't mind getting paired up with random people. I usually just make friends with them and talk about random things with them. This one was weird. The longer I don't play golf, the more I don't want to play golf. Which doesn't sound like it would be right, because, you know, the longer you don't eat, you want to eat more. Yeah. The longer you don't. But when I don't play golf for a long time, I'm like, well, if I start back, I'm gonna be pretty bad. I haven't played in two months, and I know it's gonna be brutal the first time I go out there or the second time I go out there. So if it's like borderline ever, I'm like, I haven't played in a while, I'm just not gonna play. And then it's just worse and worse. I don't want to play. Then it gets winter, and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna go and send all the winter out, because why would I even go and play when it's cold, when I'm gonna suck? Yeah. Well, it is one of those sports, though, where you feel like if you're gonna play, you gotta play, like. Yeah. Consistently. Especially if you're going to hold yourself accountable. Yeah. Like, if you're just going out to, I don't know, have fun. I mean, at least sometimes I'll just go out and be. I'll have a few beers. Obviously, Bobby, you don't do that. So. I've never went to play golf and had fun just seeing what happened. What do you mean? Like, I Never think, I'm just going to go play golf and hit some balls and I'll just have fun regardless. You're trying to shoot well every time. Every time. Yeah. So am I. Yeah, but. But if I'm playing terrible, I don't have fun. I've never had fun while playing. I've had fun while playing mid or below mid. If it's like an awesome group and they're also playing below mid. Because if you're playing with your group fun. If you're playing with your group and, like, one or two of them are killing it. Like your group of people, like, you know, and you're sucking. Oh, that's the worst. And then they give you pointers. It's the. Oh, yeah, we don't do that anymore. We canceled that years ago because we all suck. So it's like, why am I learning from you? Yeah. The bad shot. You just put your head down, just don't say anything. And the only thing worse than playing bad with your people is playing bad with people that you don't know. If it's like, oh, we've never played before, but we know each other. And you're like, I promise you, I'm better than this. And you really are. Yes. That's a miserable experience. I have another question for you with this guy. Kind of just thought about it. So every time he'd hit a good shot, I'd be like, good shot, dude. Nothing. Never responded when people say good shot. And maybe, Kevin, maybe you don't have any good shots, so we'll take you out of this. What the heck? Why am I taking strays right now? Well, because I feel like if you hit a good shot, it's a big deal. And everybody be like, good shot. You'd be like, wow, thank you. But for us, hey, dude, that was kind of a strange 300 yarder, bro. Right, right. No offense. What he's saying is you're the worst golfer by far, and if you hit a good shot, we would say, good shot. Poppers. Boom. Dang, dude, we gotta go golfing again. Eddie, pull the T. So do you say thank you when people say good shot? Yes. Like, I do. Yeah. This guy didn't say crap. Sounds like he was just socially awkward anyway. I guess that's one way of putting it. Yeah. The first thing I thought, I was like, wow, like, he's a dick. Like, some people are just dicks. But I would say that there are some people who don't. They're not being a dick on purpose because I really yeah, of course. They just don't give and receive social cues the same. Yeah. And I don't know, this guy could have been a dick, but I feel like this is not really a dick thing. It's just somebody who doesn't understand socially what is welcomed or accepted. So he does his own thing, thinking it's normal. Wow. Like, in his mind, I don't think he thought he was doing anything weird. Yeah. I don't think he turned heel on the golf course and he's just going to be out there piss everybody off. But I feel he's. He was an older dude and I feel like older people, you know better. Like you've lived long enough to know what annoys people or what isn't. That might be it, though. He might be so old that he's like, I don't give an F anymore. Or maybe he can't hear it all. So, angel from Montgomery, it was so loud. Just he thought only he could hear it on his side of the golf cart. Make me an angel. NFL fans, what's your favorite touchdown? For me, what's the next touchdown? Because with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in. DraftKings Sportsbook delivers the unmatched intensity of the NFL right to your fingertips from first touchdown score or anytime. Touchdown props or the thrill of live in game betting where every snap is loaded with opportunity. The best part? Bet just five bucks and if your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. I am a massive DraftKings guy. I'm an ambassador for DraftKings. At times that I'm not even supposed to be like, it is so much fun. It's the best entertainment. 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Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Silent Hill. Me and Tony bringing back Fireteam on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats. Also in October, we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figure out why black people always got a job. Diapers. The umbral reliquary invites any and all fooling brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take it all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special. And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy. Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. 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They're now the new face of Oz. Come on, dude. A couple things. I didn't know they had quote, plus size dance team. Me neither. Oh, are they purposely plus size or they. I don't know their intention on their size, but they call themselves that. I've, every time I've seen this story described, if it's either by people talking about it or in this story it says quote, Alabama State's plus size dance team. And so they do their thing. And then he says this and then I saw people demanding he be fired. And look, I don't think everybody should be fired for every stupid thing that they do. I think this is probably a stupid thing to say. He probably thought it was going to be welcome with more laughs than groans. Yeah, I think you're trying to be funny. No, no, no, no, man. Do you really think people are gonna laugh at that? There's no way people are gonna. Maybe a couple of people are gonna be like, I was voting. I'm seeing a picture of the guy. He didn't get. Last I saw, he didn't get fired. I don't think he should be. He came out and apologized. Huh? He did come out and apologize and all that. I'm okay with that because I think you can apologize for things. Go. I've learned this. But our culture just wants to fire people immediately. Yeah. I think he'd been there forever. I don't support what he said. I can't believe he said it. But I also don't think he should be fired if he's doing this, like, three weeks in a row. Okay. And he's always just, like, over the line right up there heckling the team. Then maybe we talk. But the other team was demanding he be fired. I don't like the comment. For the record, I wouldn't have said that. I think it was wrong and over the line. I just want to make sure that that's said and loud and clear. But I don't think he should be fired. Tyreek Hill is gonna be out. That was bad. It was just. Was like he hurt his leg, and they're like, oh, his knee. And then it turns out it was more than that. There was some Lego. And also when you depend on speed, and also when you're getting older and you depend on speed and your speed is actually decreasing a bit. And then this happens. Like, this is probably the end for him. Except for Shell of. That appears one more time. Yes. And is never quite what he used to be. And makes one more run. Yes. Except run slower. Yeah. That's got to be tough when you're so fast like that, and then even age is probably so tough on you. Yeah. Because he was already getting up there, and he's got 84 kids, so he's got to carry all them. Yeah. And $3 million in legal fees to pay them. He paid, like, what was it, like, 300,000amonth or something for. Yeah. The divorce he's going through right now. If you saw the horrific leg injury Tyree Kill suffered during the Monday Night Football game between the Dolphins and Jets, he is out for the year. The good news is his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, says the damage was fixed in one operation, and the goal is to have Hill ready for the start of next year. The injury happened in the third quarter, and they had listed all. And it's a multiple ligaments that were torn. Yeah. Right. But whenever your thing is fast ligaments and you're getting older and your ligaments are torn, I can't ever see him coming back and being that dude. He's not a big guy. Yeah. He's a fast guy. So it's also not like he can just change his game and now be a possession receiver, right? Yeah. He definitely won't be the same. That's from CBS Sports. Tubi will stream the Thanksgiving Day NFL game. So they'll simulcast it on Thanksgiving. It's not Tubies first. It's their second. They stream the Super Bowl. Anybody watch Tubi? It's a free streaming service. It's an app I see on my tv. I've never clicked on it, though. It's a lot of Tubi. You do? Yeah. I know somebody that works at Tubi, and they are an executive at a network, and they're like, I've now taken over Tubi. Oh. And that. To me, it's like a Teletubby, and I'm like, oh, that's cute. Yeah. Yes. There's like, an old movie from the 2000s I can't find. I go on Tubi and I can. I can watch it there. Is it kind of starting to pop a little bit? Yeah. They even have, like, original stuff, too. Like, some of the movies they make are really ridiculous, but that's kind of what they're known for. Does Tubi have any original shows that I've watched? Shows? None come to mind. I've only seen movies on there. I have a. I have a song in a Tubi. Tubi movie coming out. It's called Sidelined two Intercepted. What is it, a football movie? Yeah. How's the song go? It's a. They're doing like a. An outdoor country scene. Like, you know, tailgates, beers, and all that stuff. And the song is like. It's a country song. Give us a little bit. Do you sing it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, man. How's it go? I mean, you probably write so many songs. Yeah. I have to think of it. But it's like, you never think of a country song getting placed in movies or shows, but it's happening more. More and more now. So you don't remember it to be originals. It's something like, you know, I'm easy. Easy like Sunday morning, huh? Last night at the Lionel thing. Feel like I've heard that song. So I did Lionel Richie and hosted a hour and a half Q and A with Him. And they were sure to say, he's not singing. There's no band, and he's not going to get up there and sing a cappella for whatever. But the audience kept going, like, sing. Sing it. Oh, guys, sing it. Yeah. And a little bit I would like push them to just do a little something and be like, easy. They'd be like, woo. They start screaming so loud you couldn't even hear him anymore. So he'd stop. Oh, man. Like the crowd didn't know how to actually encourage. And then give him positive without shutting him down. Because he'd be like, yeah, but like, hello, is it me and the copy? What? They start screaming over him. Yeah. And then he's like, okay, he'll stop. That's enough. Or if you just be quiet. Because he's not. He's. He's not singing loud because he doesn't have a band. He's just singing while talking. He'd be like, yeah. And I was. I saw him in the studio and I was like, hello? And the guy like, whoa. So they wanted him to sing. They kept shutting him down from singing because they would react like that. Well, we heard the night before, the couple nights before when they did the New York City thing with Robin Roberts, they thought he was singing. There were fans that were pissed and they left. So me and Reed are outside of Paramount Theater before the show. They have these big signs on the door. I took a picture of one. It says, this is not a musical performance. They're everywhere. Because people are having problems with this. Yeah. When he went out at first he walked up and he got goes. It's awkward for me because I don't have a band here. So, yeah, usually I just want to come out and sing, but I can't tonight. I can't sing tonight. I can't sing tonight. He made it very clear at the beginning, it ain't happening. And then he would have like hopped into stuff, but every time he did, the crowd would yell over him. The ones in the front were loud. And he's not going to keep singing acapella over a crowd. So they were like working against themselves. Yeah. It was good, though. But that hello song, his Lionel Story, as he was in a studio and they were. And his producer was real late and he heard somebody come in, and he goes. The guy goes, hello. And Lionel goes, is it. He didn't sing it. The exact melody goes, is it me you're looking for? No way. And the guy goes, you should write that. And he goes, I don't know I kind of sounds stupid. He goes, but I tried to write it. And then, then turns out, hello, not stupid. That's pretty cool. There's some great stories. Yeah, yeah. No, he's like, he's very. He's a captivating, captivating way of speaking. Yeah, yeah. And I'd be like, I know, like, I read most of the book and so I knew a lot of the answers, but I wanted to lead him to places. And so let's say I wanted to lead him to a story about the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson that I wanted to hear specifically. So I hear what he's saying, find the perfect, perfect pivot point to get from that question to the next and ask what I would feel be the perfect question without a lot of words, just so I could set them up. And if I'm like, hey, talk about. And it'd be like. I'd be like, yeah. So you talked about that with Jackson 5. What's that? And he'd go like, I was eating dinner one night, right? He would start like seven steps before he would get to the point. So, like, he would hear a question and then go reverse on even the answer and build up to it. And in the middle he gives the beginning of the answer and he. Yeah, it's great. That's awesome. Mr. Bones. Mr. Bones? Is that what he calls it? Yeah, yeah, but. And you guys saw him. You were backstage with me. Yeah, he's the nicest guy. Oh, yeah. Talking to everybody the time. Yeah, he's like the kindest. Nice. It's kind of hard to get to him because he does have a lot of people, multiple security guards, but once you're there, you're with them. He had done Joe Rogan that day, and he had done like a two and a half hour interview, interview on Joe Rogan. And I was like, you tired? And he's like, tired? No. Let's go, baby. It's awesome. Like in 70s. Yeah. Does Joe do that at his house? Yes, yes, I believe so. I know they just, they just built a new studio at the race car track. F1, Formula 1. Like a circuit of America. Like a car condo, they call it, where they can do content and even podcast stuff there. But I believe the other stuff's at his house. Okay. Lionel said that all Joe's like. Like guys that came out to get them look like Joe. So he thought they were all Joe. They were like. They were like bald, muscular dudes. That's funny. Tanned. Yes. How do we feel? Before we go? We got a couple things Here. How do we feel about Vandy at Alabama? Don't love it. Just gonna say that right now, guys. I love Vandy, love Diego, but, man, Alabama is right now. This is crazy to say after week one a few weeks ago, Alabama probably looks like the best team. They are playing so good. They're playing so good. And they are out for blood against Van Dyke. This game especially. Yeah. I think they are out to just. The crowd's gonna be crazy. I, I which is weird to think Alabama's getting hyped up. Yeah. Because Vandy's coming to town. Yeah. They have. They have a reason to stick the old pedal to the metal and just run it up on Vandy if possible. If Vanderbilt's able to play. If they win this game. Like they're in the mix now for all of it. Yeah. And I hope they do. Me too. For the record, I hope Vandy wins. Me too. Yeah. I really do. Loud and clear. Loud and clear. But I think it's gonna be a bloodbath, Eddie. Man, I want it to be close. I think Diego Pavia is going to keep it close. I think he's also on a mission to beat them again at home in Alabama. I don't know, man. It's. I want it to be a close game, so I'm going to believe that. It's going to be a close game. More closer than we think it is. What's the line at? Do you know? Know? Ten and a half. Yeah, ten. Ten and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Closer than that. Better than I thought. So you would bet Vandy plus 10 and a half? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good bet. I stayed away from it because I don't think they will cover. I hope they do, but I don't think they will. And I don't want to bet Bama even though I think they'll win because I don't have to root for that. Yeah. My rooting affects a lot of my betting. Yeah. I'm not able to separate. I feel that same like with the cowboys. I won't do it, by the way. And I'll end with this in our little league. Oh, Joe Flacco's got bench for Dylan Gabriel. Yeah, that. Yeah. I'm excited to see what he does. And his first start is in London. Yeah. And you know what? It's probably not going to be good, but nobody's is going to be good with the Browns. No. Right. It's probably not going to be good. No. Were you surprised it was Dylan over Shador? No. Because he's been number two the whole year. Sure wasn't taking snaps on the practice squad. Yeah. Even Flacco is number two now. Yeah. They had Bailey Zappy taking snaps. The practice squad over Shadur. Yeah. So. No. Yeah. I wasn't. Okay, let me see. You were looking at our team, our money. So we got in a. We got in a league and we drafted all these teams and the more they win, we win money. But if they lose, we lose even more money. And so we have the Chiefs. And there's some upside there. Now, the fact that Worthy, I would say, opened up the secondary because he's a deep threat guy. So you can't keep the safeties playing up, which opens up everything. The run, the intermediate passing. So where they change that. Rashid Rice comes back in a couple of weeks, too. Yeah. I think the Chiefs aren't as lost as we thought they might be. You play the Jags. The Jags are three and one. Yeah. But like. But they're three. And you are your. I know. You are your record. But we have the Chiefs. We have the Bengals. They need to trade for a quarterback. Yeah. Something. And the reason they need to trade for a quarterback is because they can win that division. Yeah. The best team in the division is one in three. Baltimore. Yeah. And they're reeling right now. Big time injuries, especially now that Lamar isn't. Not. Is not going to play for a couple weeks. Yeah. So the Bengals could actually win that division if they had a decent quarterback. So that would be nice to see that for us. Like, I'm glad everybody else is losing in that division. I mean, Pittsburgh's not losing. Losing. Losing. But I don't think they're that good. They're not. And Cleveland definitely isn't good. Right. So that's that whole division. Yeah. But we have the Chiefs and the Bengals. That hurts. Yep. We have the Bucks. Nice. We have the Patriots. Let's go. Not bad. Yep. Tough one this week, boys. So we have those four teams we got to root for. Yep. And when they lose, we lose a lot of money. But when they win, we win a little. But you're supposed to win most of your games, so do I need a second job or not? Do you not know where we are, really? No, I haven't looked. I look every day. Well, it doesn't. I know. I just hope it does. Like a recount. You just never know. I don't. Check it on Tuesday. Yeah. Stat corrections. We're minus a thousand dollars right now. Yeah. Oh, boy. I just started a GoFundMe for you guys. Nice. Thank you, buddy. Thanks. Thank you. I'll put a link up. Yeah. So we are at minus 1000 bucks, which is better than what it was. Well, for a minute, because both our teams didn't play. But the. The. There. There's one team. Minus 2200 right now. That could be us. Because they have the Ravens winning. Oh, gosh. And so they have one. They've only got one game. They have the Colts losing on the same team. Wow. So for them to win, the Colts have to lose. They picked the Colts. And so those two have really set them back. Yeah. Yeah. That's rough. Yeah, we could be that. And at least the packers don't look as good as they did earlier in the year, Eddie. Well, that's Cowboys. Right? Cowboys made them look a little normal. Yeah. But who they play the week before and they lost. But after you're betting on a team going forward, it's about. And the reason they're saying this. Because Eddie wanted to pick the Bengals over the Packers. That was my two cents. The Packles. The packers definitely have a higher. Oh, I know. I'm trying to. Just trying to be. Thank you for trying to be positive. Trying to help you out, Eddie. Thank you. But stop doing that. All right. That's it. So root for our four teams. Let's go. The Chiefs are playing the Jags. Yep. Okay. We feel okay about that one. Yeah. Monday night, we do not like the Patriots and the Bills. They have to play each other. Don't love it. No. But the Bills have to lose at some point. Maybe it's this week. I don't know that they do. I feel like just one. One week. Pretty tough. Especially in Buffalo on Sunday night. That's gonna be rocking. The Bucks have a tough game. Yeah. Who do they. I just looked at all four of them and it was like, these all suck. Like, it doesn't look good for us. Yeah. And then I just eliminated my mind who they actually were playing. Seahawks in Seattle. That's. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's. That's all the way across the country. Yeah. That's a tough one. Okay. But. Okay. They can win that one, though. Wait, it gets better, guys. Go ahead. Bengals alliance. Oh, my goodness. Guys, we could lose. I need a second job. We could lose 1500 bucks this weekend to call Starbucks. If we don't win a game, we will lose 1500 or so. Eddie. Gotta post more videos. Dude. Get that payment. Yeah. I need my Instagram more. I gotta say, that popcorn looked so good. Thank you. Man, thank you. Him and his son brought it over to my wife and I. Really? What? Well, she was pregnant. That's okay. So I brought her popcorn. That's fair. And they brought me popcorn with, like, just salt on it. Yeah. Cuz you can't eat butter. You can't eat dairy, dude. Boring. And he's like, where are my M M's? I'm like, this month, chocolate. You can't have that. Stay away from our popcorn. Yeah. All right, we're done. Thank you, guys. We'll see you next week. Anything else good? I think we're good. Okay. All right. Goodbye, everybody. Oh, yeah, his red socks. Oh, yeah. Dude, your Cubs, they're playing the same exact spot. Yeah. Why are you so down on this cup? It's 1:1 in both series. Yeah, well, I mean, the Red Sox looked pretty good. Cubs look really good. Game one, they did. Game one. Game two, couldn't. They couldn't do anything. We did the same thing. Our teams are like the same. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right, all right, all right, all right. See you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host at producer Eddie, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles. What's up, everybody? It's snacks from the trap. Nerds All October long, we're bringing you the horror boogity boogy boog. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. 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Date: October 2, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show (Premiere Networks)
In this engaging episode of "25 Whistles," Bobby Bones and his crew dive into the worlds of magic and football, mixing pop culture with hard-hitting sports analysis and classic barstool debates. The episode features the debunking of famous magic tricks, a "Would You Rather" football edition, and a myth-busting segment exploring the real effect (or lack thereof) of icing the kicker. Lighthearted, data-driven, and full of expert commentary, the episode also features lively discussions about signs at games, Heisman odds, NFL bets, personal golf stories, and some topical controversies in sports.
[06:00] Alex Honnold’s Next Stunt
Bobby kicks off the show with a discussion about elite rock climber Alex Honnold’s upcoming attempt to free-solo (no ropes!) the Taipei 101 skyscraper for a live Netflix special.
“But it’s like we’re watching to see if he dies.” – Bobby ([07:54])
[10:00] Magician Secrets and Debunking Classics
“Ruin it? I don’t believe in real magic, guys. Like, it was never real.” – Bobby ([10:58])
[21:00] Heisman Winner Predictions
[26:00] Parlay Bets Recap
“For me, I want to put my balls out there. I want to prove... So I would go kicker.” – Bobby ([40:14])
“It's an offensive game now... You want to be a head coach? Be freaking great as an offensive mind.” – Bobby ([46:22])
“I skipped my morning poop for this.” – [Bobby relaying the sign] ([56:24])
[58:00] Icing the Kicker
“If anything, it ices the audience.” – Bobby ([59:09])
[1:00:28] Hot Hand Fallacy
[1:03:42] Clutch Gene Debate
[1:06:25] Defense Wins Championships
[1:07:50] Momentum Lasting into Next Week
[1:11:30] Golf Story
[1:18:00] Lionel Richie on Rogan, and Q&A Etiquette
[1:23:00] Vandy vs. Alabama Preview
[1:27:00] Injury Updates and NFL Streaming
[1:31:00] Pool of Betting Woes
The episode blends Bobby’s signature blend of humor, skepticism, and data-driven debate. The banter among co-hosts is playful and self-deprecating, with plenty of asides, relatable sports gripes, and honest confessions about sports knowledge and betting anxieties.
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