25W: Eddie Gives Parenting Advice to Bobby on Being Selfish vs Selfless + Bobby's PSA to All Arkansas Fans & He Got Wind of a Shocking HC Candidate + 'Best Case' & 'Fall Back' For Coaching Vacancies Around the Nation with Brandon Marcello

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – “25W: Eddie Gives Parenting Advice to Bobby on Being Selfish vs Selfless + Bobby's PSA to All Arkansas Fans & He Got Wind of a Shocking HC Candidate + 'Best Case' & 'Fall Back' For Coaching Vacancies Around the Nation with Brandon Marcello”

Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Guests/Regulars: Eddie, Kevin, Mike, Brandon Marcello (CBS College Football Reporter)

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Episode Overview

This episode blends lighthearted fatherhood talk with deep dives into college football drama. Bobby Bones wrestles with impending parenthood and sports fandom, gets candid Arkansas coaching gossip, and welcomes national reporter Brandon Marcello for a broad, insightful breakdown of open coaching jobs and the state of college football after another chaotic weekend.

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Main Themes and Discussion Points

1. Parenting: Selfishness vs. Selflessness (03:14–07:21)

• Bobby asks Eddie for insight on becoming more selfless as a parent, pondering whether his own football loyalty should be sacrificed for his future child's happiness.
  • “If I were really looking out for the future of this child, I would raise this kid to be an OU football fan.” – Bobby (04:33)
• Eddie, father of four, says being selfless is part of parenting, but drawing the line at sports fandom is understandable.
  • “There’s nothing better than having a team that you’ve loved your entire life and your child feel the same way.” – Eddie (06:16)
• They joke about the misery of raising a kid as an Arkansas fan, given the team’s struggles.
• A light segment on dinner-table habits: Eddie eats first because he prefers hot food, not because he’s selfish (07:04).

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2. Arkansas Football Agony and Hot Coaching Rumors (11:51–16:37)

• Bobby vents about Arkansas’ loss to Mississippi State and referee woes, but admits the team’s just bad (“We’re a bad team. Yeah, it sucks. Clear. Every. I’ll coach him.” – Bobby, 13:15).
• Arkansas and Mississippi State’s last SEC wins were against each other—a sign of their lowly status.
• Bobby teases a “shocking” coach who wants the Arkansas job, writes the name for the crew and sparks wild reactions:
  • “You would lose it… that would not be good.” – Eddie, reacting to the secret name (15:02)

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3. National College Football Discussion with Brandon Marcello

(22:42–42:30, timestamps refer to segment start)

a. SEC, Coaching Carousel, and Parity

• Auburn firing head coach: Brandon notes Hugh Freeze couldn’t adapt to NIL/transfer era and clearly lost fans (“Whenever the fans are booing you off the field…The decision has to be made.” – Brandon, 23:03)
• Changing landscape: Bobby argues more coaches are getting fired not just due to poor coaching, but because “everybody’s losing more” in a more chaotic, parity-driven age.
  • “All of this losing isn’t so indicative of the coaching, but the new environment of college football.” – Bobby (27:27)
  • Brandon agrees there’s something to “everybody just loses more” now (28:11).
• The risk of hiring “recycled” or burnt-out coaches is highlighted.

b. Ranking Best Open College Jobs

• Bobby ranks LSU, Florida, Penn State, Auburn, Arkansas.
• Brandon puts Arkansas lower, with Virginia Tech ahead due to resources.
  • “They’ve got a plan in place…Virginia Tech’s above [Arkansas].” – Brandon (30:20)

c. Potential Hires: “Best Case” vs. “Fall Back” for Big Jobs

• LSU:
  • Best Case: Lane Kiffin
  • Fall Back: Jon Sumrall (Tulane)
• Florida:
  • Best Case: Lane Kiffin
  • Fall Back: Eli Drinkwitz (Missouri)
• Auburn:
  • Best Case: Jon Sumrall
  • Fall Back: Drinkwitz or even Jimbo Fisher (fan base would “riot”—36:27)
• Arkansas:
  • Best Case: Eric Morris (North Texas), Alex Golesh (USF), both have an “eye for talent”.
• Oklahoma State, UCLA, and Virginia Tech—names thrown around, but Brandon stresses it’s early in the carousel.

d. College Football Playoff Predictions (“Who Gets the Byes?”) (41:11–42:24)

• Brandon: “Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, Texas A&M. I would have Alabama over A&M right now.” (41:22)

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4. Sports Viewing Frustrations and Streaming Wars (46:49–50:14)

• YouTube TV lost Disney/ESPN rights over the weekend, causing massive scrambling for college/World Series viewing.
  • Bobby: “I ended up going and downloading Sling...pay six bucks to have TV for a day.” (49:02)
• The crew mourns the loss of old-school work parties, pivots to sharing hacks and headaches for live sports access.

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5. Other Fun Segments and Memorable Moments

a. RedZone Adds Commercials (56:43–58:15)

• RedZone now has side-box commercials; fans freaked out, but crew finds it acceptable since prices didn’t increase.
  • “First of all, they’re short, two, they pop up on the side—they’re not full screen.” – Bobby (57:03)

b. Family Life & Streaming Costs

• Eddie’s son buys RedZone because Eddie wanted to watch his own games.
  • “I made my son buy RedZone. He always wants to watch RedZone. … This is my Sunday. I get to pick the games.” – Bobby (58:03)

c. Viral Sports Videos (63:10–66:09)

• Discussion about the viral Oklahoma smoke entrance fail video. Confirmation that it was real, not AI-generated.
  • “It happened on November 24, 2023.” – Mike (64:16)
• Stadium fails: Titans pyro incident, 1980s fires at games—awkward, but mostly harmless fun.

d. Eddie’s Chain Gang Adventure (66:13–67:47)

• Eddie shares his experience working as a chain gang member at a football game, accidentally caught in a post-game brawl.
  • “Did I fight? No. Did I try to break up the fight? No. Did I bail? … I bailed.” – Eddie (67:00)

e. Fantasy Football Woes (74:33–75:12)

• Bobby and Mike discuss their fantasy football matchups, lamenting losing streaks.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• “If I were really looking out for the future of this child, I would raise this kid to be an OU football fan.” — Bobby Bones (04:33)
• “There’s nothing better than having a team that you’ve loved your entire life and your child feel the same way.” — Eddie (06:16)
• “We’re a bad team. Yeah, it sucks. Clear. Every. I’ll coach him.” — Bobby Bones (13:15)
• “You would lose it… that would not be good.” — Eddie, about potential Arkansas coach rumor (15:02)
• “Whenever the fans are booing you off the field…The decision has to be made.” — Brandon Marcello (23:03)
• “All of this losing isn’t so indicative of the coaching, but the new environment of college football.” — Bobby Bones (27:27)
• “They’ve got a plan in place…Virginia Tech’s above [Arkansas].” — Brandon Marcello (30:20)
• “I made my son buy RedZone…This is my Sunday. I get to pick the games.” — Bobby Bones (58:03)
• “It happened on November 24, 2023.” — Mike, confirming Oklahoma smoke entrance fail (64:16)
• “Did I fight? No…Did I bail? Dude, I bailed.” — Eddie (67:00)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:14 – Bobby asks Eddie about fatherhood/selfishness
• 11:51 – Bobby’s Arkansas fan pain & wild coaching rumor
• 22:42 – Brandon Marcello joins: Auburn firing, culture shifts
• 27:27 – Bobby on parity and coaching firings
• 30:06 – National job rankings: Where does Arkansas stand?
• 34:19 – “Best Case/Fall Back” for top jobs
• 41:22 – Playoff byes: Brandon’s top 4
• 46:49 – Halloween party, YouTube TV debacle, sports streaming hacks
• 56:43 – RedZone and commercials, streaming bills
• 63:10 – Oklahoma smoke video, viral fails
• 66:13 – Eddie’s chain gang/fight story
• 74:33 – Fantasy football wrap

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Tone & Style

The show is upbeat, irreverent, and full of friendly ribbing. Bobby Bones mixes passionate sports talk with personal anecdotes, while guests like Brandon Marcello provide authoritative perspective with a laid-back, insider feel.

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Best For

• College football fans tracking the coaching carousel and playoff races
• Arkansas (and downtrodden SEC) fans looking for therapy, rumors, and tough love
• Listeners who love relatable, comic banter about sports, family, and life

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This summary covers all essential topics, highlights timestamps and quotable moments, and maintains the unique humor and candor of the Bobby Bones Show.

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[Bobby Bones]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking football.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And they all wear a whistle.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles Everybody. Welcome. So I want to ask you a question about being a dad.

[Eddie]

Yeah, go for it.

[Bobby Bones]

You have a bunch of kids.

[Eddie]

I have four kids. Okay. I mean, Kevin's also a dad, but.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, he's newer. You've got four and you've had him for a long time. Also, that helmet's killing your.

[Eddie]

Am I hitting the mic? I feel like I'm hitting the mic.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but you have to, like, be a little louder.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Since you're wearing the helmet.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Get the chin strap out of the way or something.

[Bobby Bones]

He's got a new. It's a blue Dallas Cowboy helmet.

[Eddie]

Who signed this one?

[Bobby Bones]

That is Herschel Walker.

[Eddie]

Oh, nice.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm wearing the hog hat.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And so if you're watching on video, we like to give you a little extra little. Little bonus. Little visual bonus little something, something. That being said, I had a moment where I was thinking about my impending fatherhood. And does it make you far more selfless when you have kids? Oh, yes. Okay.

[Eddie]

100%.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So things, selflessly speaking, will be happening to me once I have a child that probably I don't even realize now.

[Eddie]

Yes. You're going to be doing stuff and then you're going to be like, I can't believe I did that because I would have never done that.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I'm in the middle of a situation now, okay. Because obviously we're going to have a kid and this kid is going to be in a home divided ou in Arkansas. Now, the selfless in me would just be like being OU football fan because we suck.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but I don't think you would do that.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's what I'm saying. Because if I were really looking out for the future, of this child. I mean, if it were true selflessness. Yes. If it were not about me at all, I would raise this kid to be an OU football fan.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, I'm very selfish when it comes to the situation, but will I be so selfless that I will say, this is not about me anymore? Young child, you will have a team that actually wins and you will be a sooner.

[Eddie]

Nah, nah. Not in that case.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You don't think so?

[Eddie]

No, no, no. In that case, like, it's going to be all about fighting your wife to make your child an Arkansas fan. Because, dude, there's nothing cooler. And I've told you this before, I have four boys and one of them is 100% a Cowboys fan. Like, Die Hard, he's going to go down with us. He gets sad, he gets happy. He's just like me. The other three are so wishy washy. Like, if they're winning, like, yeah, Cowboys, they're losing. They're like, eh. One of them bought a Ravens jersey last year. Like, like, dude, what are you doing?

[Bobby Bones]

So do you like it when they're sad with you? Yeah. Oh, you do?

[Eddie]

Okay, that's what I'm talking about.

[Bobby Bones]

But I see if I'm truly selfless, if it weren't about me, I would be probably sad if they're sad.

[Eddie]

It sounds like you want your child to be.

[Bobby Bones]

I do. Right now, I do. I'm wearing this goddang hog hat. He just got humiliated by Mississippi State.

[Eddie]

I know, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Of course I know. But I really had that moment of misery where I thought to myself, am I sure that I want to raise someone in this world? And by this world, I mean an Arkansas Razorback fan.

[Eddie]

I mean, I felt like that with the Cowboys, like, do I really want to put them through this? And I feel bad for them. They're born into it. Right? But dude, there's nothing better than having a team that you've loved your entire life and your child feel the same way.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

They have nothing to do with it.

[Bobby Bones]

I won't be that selfless then.

[Eddie]

Nah, no, it's different.

[Bobby Bones]

It's going to be different.

[Kevin]

You can't. You care too much about that.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All right.

[Eddie]

Something my wife pointed out though, is like, I guess I've never realized this, but when it's like, if she's not home and it's dinner time, like, I make the food for everyone, obviously, but I serve myself first and I just eat. Just like, have the boys eat. And I'm like, no, but the food's ready. Like if they want food, like, they can get it.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that because there are so many in your house, though, constantly competing for the food or time or screens that you just take care of yourself first?

[Eddie]

Honestly, I think it comes down to me liking my food hot.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, that is a much more simplistic answer than I thought.

[Eddie]

And if I serve them first, my food's going to be cold.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it also, though, they're getting old enough to handle themselves. Of course, if they were to. That would be different.

[Eddie]

Get a plate and the food's right there. Serve it yourself.

[Kevin]

They can all do that by now.

[Eddie]

They can.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike went to the Texas game.

[Mike]

It was awesome for about three quarters, man.

[Bobby Bones]

So started watching it. Texas jumped up, 10 0. I was like, I'm not watching this crap. I'm not watching Texas, like, run away with it. I'll be honest. I was like, this sucks. I don't like it. I was rooting for Vanderbilt, but I did think Texas was going to win.

[Mike]

I did say that.

[Bobby Bones]

And so I went to the mall with my wife.

[Eddie]

There we go.

[Bobby Bones]

And they have, like, a place in there called Sport and Social. In the mall. It's like, oh, it's a restaurant.

[Mike]

I've been there, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Like a sports bar type thing.

[Kevin]

It's huge.

[Bobby Bones]

And so we go in and we're. We're going to Pottery Barn to get some stuff.

[Eddie]

Lovely.

[Bobby Bones]

And. And I really didn't plan to spend that 11am spot at the mall on a Saturday, but I couldn't take watching Texas win. And so we're going. And I look in Sport and Social, and Vanderbilt's moving. It's near the end of the game. And then. And I'm like, oh, my God, those.

[Mike]

Last four minutes, I almost threw up.

[Bobby Bones]

That's where we. And so we're there, and I'm. I didn't want to go into Sport and Social, but we stood, like, on the boundary and watch the screens. I could have watched on my phone.

[Eddie]

But they're already there. Why not?

[Bobby Bones]

If we were on my phone, though, I'd have to be in the car driving. So we're watching. And the onside kick at the end, we're watching it live.

[Eddie]

They had. Mandy had that kick.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, that's crazy. I was surprised to see them come. What happened?

[Mike]

The defense just started giving everything up. Pavia just throwing a pass, scoring a touchdown. One play. And then I just had visions of us going into overtime again. And I was like, what is happening right now to that last play when it just went out of bounds and we Got the ball.

[Bobby Bones]

Was the crowd just so relieved?

[Mike]

It was so. It was so. Everybody was so dejected. People started leaving because they thought like, oh, this is it.

[Brandon Marcelo]

We won.

[Mike]

We're good to go.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, they were leaving because you won, not because Vanderbilt was coming.

[Mike]

It wasn't even close. And it was like. And then people were like, okay. Oh, they scored.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we're good.

[Mike]

Okay. They're driving again. Okay, now it's closed. Now it's within three. And then everybody got just frustrated. The energy just left that place.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm glad for your sake that you won't.

[Kevin]

Mm.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm glad for Arch Manning sake that he played well.

[Mike]

He looks so good.

[Bobby Bones]

He did look pretty good. He did. He looked at which you got to be playing well to look athletic.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like he broke. Vanderbilt was just missing so many tackles. The beginning of that game, it was before I turned it off at 10 0. Vanderbilt had missed like 80 tackles in a row.

[Mike]

First play, touchdown. Like one pass, just straight, easy. And I was like, oh, this is going to be a lot easier than I thought it was going to be.

[Eddie]

Mike, did the stadium think that Vandy recovered that ball? Like when it went out of bounds? Like, did they think or did you guys know immediately? Like, okay, well, it's good. We're.

[Mike]

We thought Vandy had it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah. And then the whole. With the two point conversion, them giving it to them, everybody was so upset.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. That's crazy. And watching it back through every different angle because they gave it to them live.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I just think that ball was. If there was a laser line, if there was a ball that had a laser on the tip, I don't even know watching it back all those times what it was. I don't think you could reverse it. I think they don't think that they were right. I just think it was so close they couldn't reverse it.

[Mike]

But it never looked like it crossed.

[Bobby Bones]

It looked like if it were laser, laser, you could see green. It could have been tipped. But I saw an angle from the stands. I agree with you. I especially from some of the angles. It didn't even look close. But I did see an angle from the stands where it looked like the ball might have gone tip to tip. Like if you and I were standing at. It looked like.

[Eddie]

That's a weird vision.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I agree. I think it was so close that they couldn't overturn it. It wasn't that it was confirmed. Did you guys agree with that?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I just. Dude, it's so frustrating. Like you Talk like, oh, a chip and a laser.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't do it. Let's just do it. Especially because we're betting on games. Let's do it.

[Kevin]

Doesn't soccer do that?

[Eddie]

I don't think so.

[Bobby Bones]

You're the Mexican. What's funny is he has no background in soccer, but we all look at him like, yes, Linda's your expertise.

[Mike]

Zero.

[Eddie]

But I do watch soccer. I do watch soccer. And they don't do that. Soccer. What is that technology in tennis where everyone goes, well, that's bird's eye.

[Bobby Bones]

And so they do that now in the NFL with first downs, but they never get it up in time. Like, it's never.

[Eddie]

When virtual.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. They're like, let's go to virtual. And then they wait and they're like, well, we'll take a commercial break and we'll show you the picture after the break. So I wish Vanderbilt would have won, obviously. I hate Texas, but I was glad that since you were there. The worst is going to a game where you don't live in the place, have to come back home.

[Mike]

And then it was raining. I was all wet. I was like, man, if we lose, I'm going to leave this place so depressed.

[Eddie]

Did you have field access?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was going to ask how you got on the field.

[Mike]

Yeah. Taylor Searles hooked it up.

[Eddie]

Who?

[Bobby Bones]

Legit's awesome.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Mike]

He's so awesome.

[Kevin]

You had that last year, too, right?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's cool. Are you 20 there, or did you. You are.

[Mike]

I've never gone to a Texas game where they've lost.

[Eddie]

Attaboy.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know if I said that famous last word.

[Mike]

I'm not going anymore.

[Bobby Bones]

So we did. We lost a bad one in Mississippi State. We were never really a threat to lose that game. I'm not going to blame losing to. Well, now the second worst team in the sec. I think we're probably the worst. Or Kentucky, but Kentucky beat Auburn, so it's like, no, it's us. It's now us officially. It's hard to say that, but we were winning that game the whole time. I felt great about it. I just pounded the money line. I lost so much money on that game. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Emotional, but.

[Bobby Bones]

But I know. I never was emotional about it. I never felt bad about it. That team was so bad. We can't really blame the refs, but it was terrible officiating. Like, there were. They didn't blow the whistle on a play at all. And so the running back's running and our guy stands them up and just driving them. No whistle. No whistle.

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah, I do remember that one. Boom.

[Bobby Bones]

Puts him down. Ref throws a flag. They never blew the whistle to stop the play.

[Kevin]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And they threw a flag on Petrino for yelling. So I agree. But I was fighting. We fight amongst ourselves on Arkansas Twitter. I was like, you can't blame that on the refs because that's a bad team.

[Eddie]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

We're a bad team. Yeah, it sucks. Clear. Every. I'll coach him.

[Kevin]

You're never going to get the benefit of the doubt.

[Bobby Bones]

We're going to talk to Brandon Marcelo coming up in a second. But they don't. It's not like they come out with the objective. We really got to really pump Mississippi State. But Mississippi State up this week. They're important to us. We got to make them win. That's never happened in the history of the sec. Yeah. So same thing with Arkansas. They don't ever have an agenda to make Arkansas and Mississippi State win. But you can't. Like, we rolled into the kicker. They won by three. We rolled into the kicker, they kicked again and made the field goal. It was a disaster. Anyway, I lost a bunch of money. I don't even care about that. I would rather win the game.

[Eddie]

Did I see that? The last SEC win was against both teams? Were each other.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Against each other.

[Eddie]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what we do. We're on the bottom level. We just fight with each other.

[Kevin]

Now here comes a new streak. It starts all over.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Eddie]

I saw that slate. They put it up on tv. I'm like, that's rude, guys. Put that down. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna say this. What's my camera? This one here. I want to say this to all Arkansas fans. I've got hot intel on who really wants the job. And it would make everybody go freaking crazy in a good way or bad way. But if I share that intel, my source will know that I shared the intel. Can I tell you who it is?

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And you just tell me the honest reaction. I'll write it down.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you're going to tell me.

[Eddie]

What?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to tell you who it is who really wants the Arkansas job.

[Eddie]

Okay. Who wants the job? Not the source. Got it?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. And then you tell me how you think our fans would react.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

This guy were the coach. Okay. Because I'm not saying he has a heads up on the job. He. He really wants the job.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Mike]

Ready?

[Eddie]

Okay. No. Oh.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh.

[Eddie]

Arkansas. You would lose it.

[Bobby Bones]

You would lose it.

[Eddie]

You would hurt someone. That's What I said, too. Yeah, that would not be good.

[Kevin]

Wow.

[Eddie]

That'd be crazy, dude. That would be crazy. That'd be crazy. Yeah. So what was your reaction when you.

[Bobby Bones]

Heard that it was supposed to get to me? Like I have anything to do with it, because all I'm just hearing. I have coaches that reach out to me, but I have chosen because of this job and because I don't want to have to give them any more money because they always want more money, if you want to know, have more access. And I'm good. I don't want to be emotionally attached to it. I've flown too close to the sun before.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

When they said, hey, he would like you to know that he would like this job. If you could float anything to the powers that be, I just thought to myself, mother, there is no way. But I could totally see this happening.

[Mike]

Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

But can't you see it happening?

[Eddie]

I mean. Yeah, I could and I'd see. Oh, man. Yeah, that'd be crazy, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

I see it being semi realistic, and I think Arkansas fans would. I don't think it'd be a great day. Are you so curious?

[Kevin]

Yeah, Yeah, I want to. I'm like.

[Eddie]

You're curious. You don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I. I can show you. Just don't put it on camera. Oh, yeah, don't do it me.

[Kevin]

Oh.

[Eddie]

Did you expect Kevin to.

[Kevin]

No, I had, like, five named in my head, and I would have. That never would have crossed my mind.

[Bobby Bones]

Same. So. Yeah, wow.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Same thing. I was like, wow.

[Mike]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll move off because I don't. I. I don't want this to be the Arkansas show, which sometimes it ends up being.

[Kevin]

But I won't be able to get that out of my head.

[Eddie]

No, I know. It'd be crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

How do we do on the parlay? I didn't see, did I?

[Eddie]

Did I. I didn't see either.

[Bobby Bones]

Did I hit?

[Kevin]

You hit.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank God. I've hit, like. I've hit like three or four in a row.

[Eddie]

And you picked who?

[Bobby Bones]

Indiana and all the points they wanted to.

[Eddie]

That was the lock of the.

[Kevin]

Of the week, 55 to 10 or something like that. So Brandon had Vandy and he said two plus two and a half, Right? Yeah, Right. But when I made the bet on Saturday, our bet, they were at plus three.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh.

[Kevin]

So it was a like so on the app. It was plus three. So I don't know how we score that. So anyway, it washed and pushed.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

That's.

[Kevin]

So you kind of went.

[Bobby Bones]

It's all right, then you hit. Yeah. And you had Jones attack. And they lost straight up.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I ruined this one. Haynes King had over 500 yards of offense and they still got blown out.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

That's insane.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's who wants to coach Arkansas. Haynes, King. That's how we revealed it. It's a current player.

[Eddie]

That's why you'd be mad.

[Kevin]

So my bad.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Kevin]

If you're listening, go opposite of what?

[Eddie]

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[Kevin]

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Like, questionable. Like, are you really going to dress him and just have him sit there?

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, let's go over now to Brandon Marcelo, who is a national college football reporter for cbs. You can follow him on Instagram at Brandon Marcelo, he is the guy. Let's talk about college football now. We had another active weekend as far as there'll be some more job openings, I guess I'm assuming you weren't surprised to see the Auburn job open up after that game.

[Brandon Marcelo]

No, not at all. Whenever the fans are booing you off the field and saying fire Hugh after a game, there you're, you're wrapped up. The fans there are great and they rarely like boo the head coach or really the players ever. And so when that's happening there, it's that the decision has to be made.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you think went wrong?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, I could have theories, but also just football. College football has changed so much since Hugh Freeze was successful at Ole Miss. You know, he had that belief that he was the guy that could beat Nick Saban. He was Nick Saban's kryptonite. But one, he's not around anymore. Two, when Hugh Freeze was at Ole Miss, he brought in top five recruiting classes in an era where there was no Nil. And they were attracting candidates at Ole Miss through various means. And Hugh Freeze, in this day and age with nil, to be successful, yes, you need a program that is very well funded with that, which Auburn is. But also you got to be a great CEO and a great, have a great eye for talent that's going to be able to come in and complement your roster immediately. And he, Freeze couldn't quite do that. And they brought him in because he's an offensive guy and he just, they couldn't do anything offensively these three years and they've been even worse. I mean, you only scored three points against one of the worst defenses in the SEC, Kentucky, and you lose 10 to 3 at home. You go to Arkansas and you score one offensive touchdown which is also one of the bottom two defenses in the, in the SEC. You can't figure out who should be your starting quarterback despite bringing in OU's Jackson Arnold at a price tag of about a million and a half dollars. From what I understand that's, that's why you hired him was for your offense look good and it looks worse than it did under Brian Harson, which is, I can't believe I'm saying it, but it's absolutely true. Just go look at the numbers.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think that Stoops is next to go? He just happened to win this game so he got another week pass.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I don't know. That's a much more difficult situation because his buyouts about $38 million and it's all due within 60 days. They don't pay it out over years. I mean someone's got to bring up a big check and like the Happy Gilmore check and sign it off because that. I don't know where they can get that money. I think the best thing that happened Kentucky all week wasn't the start of the basketball season coming up but the fact that they beat Auburn because for now they could go, okay, we don't have to write that check right now.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's stay in the sec. Texas, big win, almost blew it, but big win. Are they good again?

[Brandon Marcelo]

You know they've always been good because of the talent. Whether they could put it all together and make a run to the playoff, we'll see. They still have some very difficult games on the schedule. They're in a position where they could potentially get in as a three loss team and be the first three loss team to ever get in because their resume would be probably deserving of it. You know they're, they've got two opponents left that are like top five worthy and if you split those you that I think you'll have enough good of a resume there to make an argument for them to get in. Plus The ACC and Big 12 are looking more and more like one bid leagues in the playoff this year and that's going to help out the Big Ten in the sec. But it's going to help out the SEC more so because the Big Ten so top heavy, you probably only really have three teams out of the Big Ten that deserve a spot too.

[Bobby Bones]

The acc bad luck with Miami losing again. They have to win the conference championship now. Can they still get it? I mean can Miami get in still?

[Brandon Marcelo]

They have to win the ACC championship. That's the only way, in my opinion. I think the ACC is just a one bid league now. They'll be the ACC champion, whoever wins it. So we could sit here and discuss like, well, what about this team? It just, it's just going to be one of the two teams in the ACC championship game and that's it. The ACC's kind of bitten it beating itself down and Miami's been the worst thing that could have happened to them, you know, other than Florida State earlier this season going on this losing streak. But Miami falling the way they have here in recent weeks is just really damaged the conference.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd like to present a new theory as I often do every week, and most of them are pretty stupid. But I think a lot of these teams that are firing coaches now are going to look at this season as the first season of true parody and that all of this losing isn't so indicative of the coaching, but the new environment of college football. And there will probably be some of these jobs that shouldn't have lost their head coach this year. I think the losing is so new to the culture and everybody's losing more because of Portal and Nil. And I think there are going to be some schools. I'm not putting Arkansas in that mix. I think they made the right decision. There are going to be some schools that look back and go, we probably shouldn't have cut our guy that quick because now everybody just loses more. Your thoughts?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Wow, that'd be a great saying for the sec. Everybody just loses more. I'd like to see that commercial. We need to redo that commercial on the beach. You know, you look across, you know, a lot of these firings have been warranted. I, I don't know if I agree with the Brian Kelly firing. It's just everything has to be contextualized, right? But like a lot of these situations, it's interesting. I think Brian Kelly at LSU and Hugh Freeze at Auburn were very much alike in that I think Brian Kelly was checked out quite a bit. And I do think Hugh Freeze, for multiple reasons was a bit checked out because, you know, he was golfing all the time. He's been dealing with health issues himself, as we've known in the past. But also I think Hugh Freeze, ever since he got fired at Ole Miss, was always just trying to get back to the sec. And I think once he got there, it was like, mission accomplished. I accomplished my goal. He didn't really have goals beyond that. And I think that. And in this new day and age, he didn't know how to adapt. Anyway, so it's just like, I made it. I proved, I proved myself. And I think Brian Kelly, to a certain extent, was that way at lsu, because he's like, I did everything I could at Notre Dame. I'm going to go to lsu and everything will just fall in place. And that's just. That's just not how it goes. And that's a danger, I think, that people need to learn here, getting retread coaches. You better make sure that guy's like, still got that hunger and that fire in his belly, otherwise you're going to repeat the exact mistakes that LSU and Auburn just had.

[Bobby Bones]

I would probably try to be unbiased and put the Auburn job ahead of the Arkansas job. So I think Arkansas is now probably five overall. I would go number one. Job is obviously LSU and then Florida, Penn State, Auburn, Arkansas. Would you rate them the same?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm trying to go back here, actually, because I actually did something like this. You're probably gonna hate me because I do not have Arkansas that high. And it pains me to say that, as a fellow Arkansan.

[Bobby Bones]

You think Virginia Tech's a better job?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yes, right now because of the. The commitment financially and the plan they have in place. Until I hear different for Arkansas, Virginia Tech's above them. Virginia Tech's going to raise their average budget by almost $60 million a year with the athletics department. They've got that in place. So they're trying to, you know, they've got a plan in place. So the way I got. I got LSU 1, despite all that craziness in the background. 2A and 2B, I think, is a tie. Florida and Auburn. And then below that, I got Penn State, Virginia Tech, Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, pretty close. But does Virginia Tech. Do they get to wear this on their head, yes or no?

[Brandon Marcelo]

They don't.

[Bobby Bones]

That's right.

[Brandon Marcelo]

They do wear hard hats. They got the hard hats.

[Bobby Bones]

Those are easy. Get those at any Home Depot. This, you have to get at a specific place that molded this plastic exactly like a hog. That's all I'm saying there. Brandon Marcelo. Georgia squeaked out another one. Does that mean they're a gritty team or they're just maybe not as dominant?

[Brandon Marcelo]

They're not as dominant. I've been saying it all year. With their defense. The defensive line just isn't the type of defensive line that just puts fear into opponents. They're not getting a lot of TFLs, a lot of sacks this season. Their offense is just great enough, but it's not elite. They just simply kind of suffocate everybody because they have more talent in the end. Also, Georgia's actually caught some breaks this year, especially officiating and replays. I mean, remember the Auburn game weeks back where Auburn had a touchdown taken off the board. And you also look at this past week where it looked like the Florida receiver caught that ball right inside the red zone, where Florida could have went up there late, but they rolled it incomplete on the field. And then the review didn't have enough evidence to overturn it, but it looked like a catch to me. But this team looks very similar to the one that lost last season in the playoffs. Right to Notre Dame, where they just kind of they're going to meet someone in the postseason where they're just not going to be as schematically good and they're going to get beat. I that's my opinion. I don't think they're going to be a team that makes it deep in the playoffs once again, that they're just going to be good enough to compete in the sec, maybe contend for the SEC championship, but then lose at some point in the playoff.

[Bobby Bones]

We had Alex Gola, Sean, and there were a couple of news stories that came out that said I cornered him. I saw that I didn't corner him. I, I, okay, I walked him gently at the very first of the interview. I said, hey, I'm not going to ask you about any job. And I said it to him. I said, so I know everybody wants to ask you that. I will not ask you a single question about any job. And at the end, I said, hey, Fayetteville in the fall. How does it sound? His wife is from Greenwood. The whole thing. I didn't corner him. He had a good, he was a good guy. I like him. What are you hearing about him?

[Brandon Marcelo]

He'd be someone that Arkansas is interested in.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And his name's probably going to come up some other jobs as well. Listen, I know this is kind of hard to grasp, even for me as a reporter. We're still so early in the coaching carousel cycle, but we might have nine FBS jobs open right now, power conference jobs right now, which is crazy. But it's early November, first week of November, and we're not going to start hearing like legit candidates and where they stand with jobs until Thanksgiving week, probably based off of the past. But Goal ish is a name that's been coming up at Arkansas. So is Eric Morris, the North Texas coach. But what's going to be fascinating to see is whether those their Names start coming up in the most recent job openings, not necessarily as a top target, but as someone that could be involved. And if. And the reason why I say that's important is because if you're involved with a coaching search as a candidate, you can use that as a negotiating tactic with other jobs that you maybe have a more realistic job, you know, opportunity to jump at and get. But, you know, I've got my own opinions on, like, who should hire who.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, let's do it. Let's go. I mean, lsu.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, sure. Lsu. Lane Kiffin, if you can get them. If you can't get him, hire John Summerall at 2.

[Bobby Bones]

Lane, I like this. I like best case. And then fall back. That's what I like. All right, so we got. That's lsu. Then let's go to Florida.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Lane Kiffin. And if, if not, if not, Lake Kiffin, Eli Drinkowicz, I listen, I love Drink.

[Bobby Bones]

I love him. Like, I think that dude is such an outside the box thinker. And you know, my own brethren, brethren, they do not love him. Mostly because we get run over by him. I love him. I've had him on multiple shows. He'll. He'll be awesome wherever he goes. I think he'd be perfect for that Florida job. Do you think he would take it?

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's a great question. I do think that he has to weigh all that. I think it'll come down to financial resources. Mizzou's in a pretty good spot financially. It's just like. But maybe you can go to Florida and just get that next level up of talent.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, let's do Penn State.

[Brandon Marcelo]

That's the job. I don't know. They swung and missed on Matt Rule. He got the contract extension last week. And that is going to be fascinating to watch. They're trying to swing big there. We'll. We'll see. But I, I need to recalibrate that and talk to some people.

[Bobby Bones]

Then let's go to Auburn.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Brand new John Summerall at Tulane. And I would make it very clear to him, you are our top target. Don't go sitting around waiting for LSU or other schools. We want you. You're our guy. Come home. You're an Alabama guy. You are from Huntsville, Alabama. Your wife went to Auburn. Come home. Lead SEC program. We'll give you everything you want. And. And his personality fits in well. I think culturally with that program, that job's a little. Not him. If not him, I would look at like an Eli Drinkowitz. Once again, he's got Auburn ties himself and I would maybe even do wild card stuff. I would, I would look at the possibility of how it would work of getting Jimbo Fiser.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. The fan base would riot. The fan, fan bases are usually stupid, but regardless, every fan base because the loudest stupid ones are the ones that make the most noise. I think the fan base would riot if they hire Jimbo Fisher.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, but that's a job he's always come close to almost getting several times in the past. He's got connections there. He used to go hunting right outside Auburn quite a bit. He might still, but yeah, and also if I'm Auburn, I would just be crazy enough to reach back out to Lane Kiffin because Lane almost took that job a few years ago. And I would circle back, just think, oh, hey, you certain this time? I know there's other jobs but maybe you come here and we'll, we'll give this to you. But Auburn's going to get a good coach this go around.

[Bobby Bones]

Am I right to say that that job is a bit more attractive since the last time it was open because Nick Saban is no longer across the street?

[Brandon Marcelo]

That but also the talents is much better. The roster is set up to win. I mean this roster this year should have won eight or nine games. It's been coaching malfeasance this year and that roster going next year depending on who they keep. And then also they can get a lot of good guys in the transfer portal if they make a hire early enough. That that's a roster that can win eight, nine games right off the bat in year one, Arkansas, Eric Morris and then my, my second would be Alex Golish. I would be happy with either of them. I think they would both be great hires. Eric Morris, the reason why I'm so high on Eric Morris is because he has identified talent everywhere he's gone. He's the guy who got Cam Ward, he's the guy who got John Matier at Washington State. And now he's got a quarterback at North Texas that's just shattering records and they're all diamonds in the rough. His quarterback now at North Texas Demon play high school football as a senior, was a no star recruitment and now he's shattering records in their contention for the American Conference. Plus his offense is really exciting. Same with Alex Golish. And Alex Golish, as you mentioned earlier, has connections to the state of Arkansas. His wife's from Greenwood. I would zero in on those two candidates. But when it comes to Eric Morris, they'll have to fight Oklahoma State potentially for him.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. That was my next F2 more Oklahoma State and UCLA.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oklahoma State, Eric Morris, and then maybe you look at Zach Robinson, former Oklahoma State player, now in the NFL.

[Bobby Bones]

I think Franklin goes to Virginia Tech is why I didn't even mention them. Do you think Franklin goes to Virginia Tech?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think that process is gonna have to work itself out. I think. I think he's gonna have to sit here and wait to see if he might end up being involved in some of these other bigger jobs if those bigger jobs don't get their number ones. And for that matter, Franklin can sell himself as. Listen, I'm ready to go now. You don't have to wait on me. I come in and build things up. We're not going to miss early signing day in early December. We're not going to miss the transfer portal window there on January 2nd. Bring me in. Bring. And I'll get a staff together and we'll hit the ground running. So I think he's going to play this out a little bit for the next few weeks.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, Do UCLA and have one final question.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I don't know about ucla, but I haven't heard his name come up. There'd be two names, but I think one of them wouldn't take it. Jason Ek at New Mexico. He's just phenomenal and so much fun to watch. And then Dan Mullen at unlv. But I don't think he would take the job at ucla. I'll give you a third name. Will Stein, the offensive coordinator at Oregon.

[Bobby Bones]

I know Dan Mullen is not going to take the Arkansas job. He tweeted that late at night.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He was like, hey, why don't you. There is a guy that you should go after and it's not me. And I thought that was pretty funny. He took it down. I wish you would have taken it down, cuz I did.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, he took it down.

[Bobby Bones]

He took it down. Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I know Arkansas fans probably wouldn't be all that high on it, but it would be better. Gus Malon would be better than what they've had.

[Bobby Bones]

I agree.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I want to tell you that right now, he would bring in recruits, he would recruit, he would get. He'd have a good staff. And I think because it's home for him, there would be an understanding there that this is. I. He would be rejuvenated in a lot of ways. But I can understand why, because of the past. I mean, he came close taking the Arkansas job back in 2017, and then he stuck at Auburn and then Arkansas went and got a Gus Malzon clone, which was Chad Morrison. That guy was an absolute not a clone. He was like. You ever see the movie Multiplicity with Michael Keaton? He was like the 10th copy of Gus Mountain.

[Bobby Bones]

He was Timu Malazan.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Team you mouse on.

[Kevin]

Exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, final question. Four top four teams get a buy. Unlike last year with the the big four conferences got a buy. Just top four this year. If you were slotting them now, who would get the buys?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Ohio State, Indiana, maybe Ole Miss.

[Eddie]

And.

[Bobby Bones]

Over A and M. Huh?

[Brandon Marcelo]

No, you're right. A and M over Ole Miss. And I'm blanking. I mean, I had to. I just did my rankings.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think BYU is good enough. They're still undefeated. I think if they went out though, they probably have a shot. If you're. Do you turn away a be an undefeated BYU though, as a buy?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, what helps BYU in this is that we still have conference championships around. So if one of these teams were to lose their conference championship game, they're going to fall completely out of that top four. And the reason why I say it's important is because you've got several SEC teams that could be top four teams, like even right now in the first CFP rankings. So here's how I'd have it. I'd have it right today. It'd be Indiana, Ohio State, Alabama, then Texas A and M. So I would have Alabama over in A and M right now.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, there he is. Brandon Marcelo on Instagram at Brandon Marcelo, good to see you, buddy. And hopefully I'll see you soon.

[Brandon Marcelo]

All right, see you.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Ana Ortiz]

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[Brandon Marcelo]

Yay.

[Ana Ortiz]

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[Kevin]

I.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Brandon Marcelo]

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[Kevin]

Daddy's looking good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Kevin]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Kevin]

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[Bobby Bones]

We had a work party for Halloween. Yeah, I obviously didn't go.

[Eddie]

I didn't either.

[Bobby Bones]

I say obviously because I don't go to any party, regardless of work or not. You don't? Yeah. But I wouldn't have been surprised to hear that you went to the work party.

[Eddie]

I just had to go. I had to leave. I wasn't there.

[Bobby Bones]

Kevin, you went.

[Kevin]

I did.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it because you were already in the building or did you stay in the building to go to the party?

[Kevin]

No, it's because I was already there. I didn't participate in everything because we were working. It was during the morning, but after we wrapped up.

[Bobby Bones]

What time did they have the party?

[Kevin]

Like 9:30, 9:45.

[Eddie]

Morning. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And then, like, they had bagels and all this stuff. I didn't participate in any of that. Hanging out. And then they took a picture. I literally just ran in there when I heard they're taking the picture and I took it.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, so you didn't go to the party? You just took a picture from the party?

[Kevin]

Yeah, And I just kind of said, hey, guys, I'm here. Dressed up too. And you wore your Belichick.

[Eddie]

Got it.

[Kevin]

Yes. The one that you thought I just wore.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you get like a bonus or something? Why were you so set on getting in the picture?

[Kevin]

So who? I think Lunchbox came in and he was like, hey, they're taking the picture. I was like, you know what? I didn't dress up for nothing. I'm going out there to get something out of this, you know, and yeah, it's. It was cool even though I didn't participate. But there's some people at work that, you know, you only see every now and then. Sales people come in, like, what, twice a week maybe? And when they're dressed up, I'm like, I really don't know who you are.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you mean as a costume?

[Kevin]

In the costume?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

So it was a little awkward, but I got in the picture.

[Bobby Bones]

We used to have. Even before you were at the company, we used to have massive Christmas parties.

[Eddie]

Oh. Like where the whole company was alcohol.

[Bobby Bones]

And the local part of the company. Yeah. And it would be. They would give out freaking 60 inch TVs. Oh, damn. Is crazy. It's like a different time. It's like I'm talking about Mad men. Like the 50s. Yeah. Like money was flowing.

[Eddie]

You know what, though? When I first had my first job out of like, I was actually still in high school, maybe my first year in college, I had a job at the TV station and they had a Christmas party. And this is my. This was my first view into the real world. And like their Christmas party was at a hotel. Everyone got a room. There was unlimited alcohol. And like, it was awesome. I asked this girl, I'm like, do you want to go with me? And then I was like, I have a hotel room. This is amazing. We didn't even use it because, I.

[Bobby Bones]

Mean, they gave you a hotel room.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Dude. I was 19 years old and I'm like, you're giving me a hotel room?

[Kevin]

I've never been to anything.

[Eddie]

Dude, that was crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You missed it. You missed When? The good old days.

[Kevin]

I hear all the time. These parties. I heard you have these parties.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, the good old days. Did anybody have trouble watching Games?

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah. YouTube TV.

[Bobby Bones]

So I went and downloaded the day pass on Sling. Didn't even know that.

[Eddie]

What are you guys talking about? What happened?

[Bobby Bones]

If you have YouTube TV there, as of. As of recording this late Sunday night, you have no ABC or no Disney.

[Eddie]

Oh, dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Which meant no espn. Oh. And Arkansas was on SC network game day.

[Eddie]

That's espn. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So there was nothing. So you had to find a way. And so you were scrambling. I was like, grandpa. And usually I'm pretty tech on. I ended up going and downloading Sling. And they have a one day option. You pay six bucks to have TV for a day.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's what I did in order to watch the games.

[Eddie]

That's like one of those shady hotels.

[Kevin]

Do they. They don't have multiview. Do they like YouTube TV? That's the worst part.

[Eddie]

Oh, easy, guys. That's how I live my life. I don't have multiple. Oh, yeah, that's me every weekend.

[Kevin]

Really?

[Eddie]

Yes. Back and forth. It's tough.

[Kevin]

Oh, dude, you got to change that. Hardly. Not yet. Wait for them to sign the contract, then change it.

[Bobby Bones]

We just had two games we wanted to watch, and it was the Arkansas, Mississippi State game at 3 and the Oklahoma Tennessee game at 6:30. So we bought the day bass and kept those on. I watched the World Series on my phone because the World Series was not on one of the Disney properties. So that was. Yeah, that was good. Which was crazy because I turned that on in like the fourth inning feels a bit. Even though it was game seven in a great World Series, it feels a bit like baseball's like the NBA. Like just watch second half and really just fourth quarter.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So I watched a little on and off while I was watching the Oklahoma game. And then about the seventh inning, I dialed in ready to watch a Blue Jays victory.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Holy crap. What a crazy, crazy ending.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Really one of the crazier, like, live baseball World Series endings I've ever seen.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I turned it on in the eighth inning, I believe. And I was like, perfect. Perfect.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, perfect. But that was perfect.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Because I saw all the big plays that everyone's watching throughout the weekend. And yeah, it was wild. Those back to back plays in the ninth inning.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

That the.

[Bobby Bones]

The home Dodgers made.

[Kevin]

Well, first the home run.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Then the two plays, the infield and then the pop fly out there. That was wild.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. He was falling back. Yeah. It's second after he hit the home run, makes a play at home. And then after that the play on the outfield, new center filter comes in.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It was amazing. The Dodgers were supposed to win that because everything that happened was like, oh, my God. Yeah.

[Kevin]

So once they got within one run, I put 20 bucks on them to win till, like they're gonna win this thing. Didn't think it'd be like that, but it was wild.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't feel very patriotic because I was rooting for Toronto. I couldn't have been more oh, Canada, because the Dodgers are what's wrong with baseball.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I wish the Cubs would spend that kind of money. Like, I'm not a hater on it.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

They're just playing by the rules. Better. There is no salary cap, so buy all the best players. I saw the funniest meme though. It was like fans of the Dodgers and it was like a bunch of Mexican dudes. And it was like players of the Dodgers and like a K pop band.

[Eddie]

That's pretty funny.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

The pitcher won mvp, Right.

[Bobby Bones]

The game six and seven. He was the winner for game six and seven.

[Eddie]

He's the one that pitched like almost the whole game.

[Bobby Bones]

Game three or some game six.

[Kevin]

And then he came in for game seven in extras and dominated again.

[Bobby Bones]

But it was it was one of the funnier memes I've seen in a while. And I thought to myself, am I racist for laughing at this? And I don't think I was. It's Los Angeles and it was highlighting.

[Eddie]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

That multiple cultures can come together regardless of their possible bias.

[Eddie]

Before.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Anyway, it was funny.

[Kevin]

And yes, I feel bad for Blue Jays fans.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Eddie]

Bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that sucks. I felt bad for me using Sling. So I downloaded the. I hate downloading apps. I will do anything to not download a new app and ended up downloading it to our Roku downloaded to my phone. Pay.

[Eddie]

My little.

[Kevin]

That's a process.

[Bobby Bones]

It is. But now I know if something goes out, you got. I can go and pay my cards in there now too. I go pay my699 or whatever it was for the day and watch whatever I need to watch. Yeah, it's not an ad because I don't even know what it was. I. I've heard a Sling.

[Eddie]

So who told you to do that?

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I tried everything I googled. How can I. I tried to go buy the live package on Hulu, but Hulu now is through Disney plus.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I was lost in a maze.

[Kevin]

Yeah, there's so many avenues. And they knew.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, that's their whole point.

[Kevin]

That's why they're fighting and they're trying to block everybody to get off of.

[Bobby Bones]

YouTube TV because they want to have you to come to them for it. Because it's all Disney. Hulu's Disney. Disney plus is obviously Disney.

[Eddie]

And I saw something recently that UFC is going to be on Paramount plus next year. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Eddie]

Didn't know that.

[Kevin]

They announced that a few months ago.

[Bobby Bones]

No paper. So yes. Sucks and is awesome. If you already pay for Paramount plus, it's awesome because you're not going to pay extra for the pay per views.

[Kevin]

Yeah, no pay per view. Yeah, pay for the pay per view, right?

[Eddie]

I do pay for the.

[Kevin]

Yeah, so you don't pay for it if you have Paramount.

[Eddie]

My mouth just got caught up there. It's too much.

[Bobby Bones]

So if you already pay for Paramount plus, you won't have to pay for a pay per view.

[Eddie]

Sally sells seashells.

[Bobby Bones]

Where that would be annoying for someone is if they don't pay for Paramount plus, they have to pay for Paramount plus to get what used to be the pay per views.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're good.

[Eddie]

You still have to pay for the pay per view. No, because now it's ESPN plus, which you pay for.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's different. You have to Pay for the pay per view on ESPN plus right now?

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Eddie]

I can't do it.

[Kevin]

Move on.

[Bobby Bones]

But ESPN plus also has now the new extra version of ESPN that's not Plus ESPN Unlimited. Unlimited, yes. I saw that. Gosh.

[Eddie]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. And so if you want to watch wrestling, you have to have that.

[Eddie]

And it's unlimited.

[Bobby Bones]

What does that mean?

[Eddie]

I have no idea.

[Bobby Bones]

The camera follows him home.

[Eddie]

Just what it says.

[Bobby Bones]

But if you have Paramount plus, that's good for you.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you're already paying for it anyway.

[Eddie]

I have it.

[Bobby Bones]

And you don't have to pay for anything. Once the fights happen, they're just automatically going to be there. It's like the wrestling deal with Peacock when WWE was only on Peacock. Right, Mike? Yeah, if you had Peacock, that's what it was. So if you don't. But I'm not a big UFC guy.

[Eddie]

Oh, dude. Every week. Love it.

[Bobby Bones]

Who's your favorite fighter right now?

[Eddie]

Right now? Probably Adesanya. He's probably my favorite fighter. Oh, or Sean Strickland. I like Sean Strickland a lot, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, these, they're like shooting stars, though, like, because of how violent the sport is. It's not like you can have like a seven year super fan. No, I'm a massive Sean Strickland guy. At his height.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, you can still root for him. Like, Chandler still fights.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But he's. I've all. I only started to know Chandler once he came in the show because I'm not a big UFC guy, but now he's like, aged.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, he's considered an old fighter. Right. Like one of the greats.

[Eddie]

And it's so hard for these guys to stay on top now.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, he's like 19. He's having to retire for age.

[Eddie]

Like, Sean Strickland was. Was like awesome for him. And now he just gets, you know, he's, I think, lost the last two fights, so it's just hard for anything.

[Kevin]

Guys, once they lose, they lose like four in a row.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Kevin]

And it's just over. Yeah, it's like a running back in the NFL or something.

[Bobby Bones]

I like Iceman, dude.

[Eddie]

You know how much I like it? I watch Dana White's Contender Series and that's like those are the people trying to make it on Tuesdays and they fight each other and there's only. I think there's probably like six fights. And out of the six fights, he awards three contracts to a fighter. And so you kind of get to see like, all right, here's someone in the making. I Love it.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's like college football, correct?

[Eddie]

Yeah. And they're good enough to try it. Like, if they have a really good fight, he signs them and then you see him in like a real UFC fight in like two months and he gets knocked out. It's like, well, he's not.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, there goes that, there goes that, There goes that. Some other notes that I have here. Haha. Duke over Clemson.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Again, I don't dislike anything about Clemson fans. The team just. Dabo.

[Eddie]

Is he going to get fired?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think so.

[Eddie]

I don't think so. Okay.

[Kevin]

That was the first one, I think, since 1980. Duke at Clemson.

[Bobby Bones]

My prediction for the Penn State job was Manny Diaz a long time ago. He's Duke's head coach. I think that was a big win for him.

[Kevin]

Yeah, they've had a couple this year.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially whenever Penn State's kind of looking for the coach. And like Brandon Marcelo was saying, he thinks they're probably, you know, evaluating a lot of things right now, but. Yeah, how about that? Sorry, Dabo.

[Eddie]

It's on you, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Another one, another note, another one, another one. When I was watching Red Zone yesterday, there's only a few commercials that come on and people acted like they were gonna riot because Red Zone had commercials.

[Eddie]

I was one of those people.

[Bobby Bones]

But the commercials, first of all, they're short two. They pop up on the side, they're boxed out. They don't take you full screen.

[Eddie]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

That's okay.

[Kevin]

They should have clarified that, by the way.

[Eddie]

Yes, for sure. Because I was thinking they're gonna cut to commercial. We're gonna miss the action.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Price is the same in show commercials.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm okay with that. And again, it's not all the time. I think it was like a. Some luxury car popped on and I was like, oh, I need to make a note of this, because everybody gets so mad when they hear Red Zone has commercials. But Red Zone hasn't lifted their prices, and people are always lifting prices. What people fail to acknowledge is they didn't lift their prices. Instead of that, they took a couple commercials, and they're not full box with those commercials. So I'm good with it.

[Eddie]

Yeah. And it's not that expensive. I made my son buy Red Zone.

[Bobby Bones]

Because it's kind of expensive. Well, like 500 bucks for the year.

[Eddie]

No, Red Zone is. Dude, you're talking about. You're talking about the ticket.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. All together, though. Yeah.

[Eddie]

I made my son buy Red Zone. Oh, he always wants to watch Red Zone.

[Bobby Bones]

What's Red Zone cost? By itself?

[Eddie]

30 bucks a month.

[Kevin]

I think it's like, an extra 10 bucks a month.

[Eddie]

I think it was $30 total. Like, 35. He got a deal. Like, it was.

[Bobby Bones]

That's halfway through the season.

[Eddie]

So once the season started and he got it for, like, 35 bucks for the rest of the season. But it was huge because I bought the ticket. And then he'd always come like, hey, can we watch this game? Like, bro, I paid for this. Like, this is my Sunday. I get to pick the games.

[Bobby Bones]

Selfless. Like, we're talking about the beginning. Eddie gives me another example of being a selfless dad. Go ahead.

[Eddie]

So he's like, well, okay. Well, can just. We just watch Red Zone? We're all happy. I'm like, no, I want to watch the four games I want to watch. You want to watch Red Zone? You buy it and do. He bought it, and it's pretty cool. It's like.

[Bobby Bones]

He's just, like.

[Eddie]

He goes up to his. His floor upstairs, and he watches Red Zone the way he wants to watch it.

[Bobby Bones]

Can I just possibly be incorrect in a question that I'm asking?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Can't multiple screens watch? Because I feel like I can put it on my phone, and I can put it on the screen, and that's one account.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Where he just could have watched it on his phone and use your account without having to take from you.

[Eddie]

With my ticket, you can't. Once another device uses it, it knocks the other one off.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

So that's the only reason it was a problem. Because if it wasn't a problem. Yeah. Did you watch yours? I watch mine, but it's pretty crazy. Like, and the fact that he bought it and he gets to enjoy it. He's like, I get to watch whatever I want. I get to watch my Red Zone.

[Bobby Bones]

I also confused Red Zone for the entire Sunday ticket, which is not. Which is very expensive. Yeah. When you were like, bro, where are you getting your money?

[Eddie]

That one's not cheap.

[Bobby Bones]

I had to reevaluate how much everything costs as I was trying to go through the apps to find out how I could watch TV for one day. Like, I saw what I bought. Yeah. You go to subscriptions in your iPhone. It tells you everything. And it's like, manage plan. I wanted to every. I went into Hulu and Disney plus just trying to get live TV for a freaking day. And then I saw how much everything was, which is how I know how my Sunday ticket is.

[Eddie]

What's in a bad mood?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I was just like, God dang, we're paying a lot.

[Eddie]

How much is the NBA league pass?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know because I've just had it, right? It just renews itself. Okay, My, my wife watches it way more than I do now because she watches basically every Thunder game. I don't know, somebody could probably tell me.

[Mike]

109 for the standard plan. 160 for the premium plan.

[Bobby Bones]

A month or over or the whole season, annually. Oh yeah, that ain't so bad.

[Eddie]

Not bad because I got, I got a deal with DraftKings where I got three months free of free NBA league pass.

[Bobby Bones]

How about that?

[Eddie]

It was awesome, dude. So Now I'm about two weeks into it, but three months free months plus.

[Kevin]

Get 300 in bonus bets.

[Eddie]

Oh, thank you, Bobby Swartz.

[Bobby Bones]

Cody. Bobby sports.

[Eddie]

Thank you, Kevin.

[Bobby Bones]

That is right.

[Eddie]

That's the sound of James adding long lasting gain scent boosters to his laundry this morning. Several hours later, James sniffs the irresistible scent of gain on his shirt. Ah. Gain. Several hours later, James is even caught the attention of his mother in law and she never gives him attention.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you smell amazing, James.

[DraftKings/Gambling Disclaimer Voice]

Oh, thanks, mom.

[Bobby Bones]

I love you too. I never said that.

[Eddie]

Add gain scent boosters to your laundry. Add joy to your day.

[Bobby Bones]

It's Ana Ortiz and I'm Mark and Delicato.

[Ana Ortiz]

You might know us as Hilda and.

[Bobby Bones]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Ana Ortiz]

We played mother and son on the show, but in real life we're best friends.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm all grown up now.

[Ana Ortiz]

Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Bethy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yay. Woo hoo.

[Ana Ortiz]

Can you believe it has been almost 20 years?

[Kevin]

I.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's not even possible. You're the only one that looks that much different. I look exactly the same. We're rewatching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama, and the behind the scenes.

[Bobby Bones]

Moments that you've never heard before. You're gonna hear from guests like America Ferreira, Vanessa Williams, Michael Urie, Becky Newton, Tony Plana, and so many more icons.

[Ana Ortiz]

Each and every one.

[T-Mobile Commercial Actor]

All of a sudden like someone like comes running up to me and it's Salma Hayek. And she's like, you are my Ugly Betty. And I was like, what is she even talking about?

[Ana Ortiz]

Listen to Viva Betty as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Hey there.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City. Or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.

[Kevin]

Daddy's looking good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me, actually. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle honey in there too.

[Bobby Bones]

If I'm feeling sexy in the morning.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

What keeps them going?

[Bobby Bones]

And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media. Like when a kid says bra to.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.

[Bobby Bones]

In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and boys, right?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Hey, he's no train McDougal. Google Chill.

[Ana Ortiz]

This is like the comments section of my Instagram.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday. And let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

Two other notes I have here. Have you guys seen the video of. And it's from years ago, of Oklahoma coming out with all the smoke in the entrance.

[Kevin]

Football.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so we'll put it up in the screen now as this clip. But Oklahoma's running out, it's a day game, and there's smoke all coming out. And you know, then they run out of the entrance and so a few guys come out and then all of a sudden no guys come out. And then the smoke starts to dissipate a bit and there's like 13 players on top of each other because it couldn't see in the smoke and they all fell down.

[Eddie]

Oh, that's brutal.

[Bobby Bones]

I've never seen that before. I thought it was AI because it was. And I'm still not convinced it's not AI.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Cause I saw it probably a week and a half ago, so I can.

[Bobby Bones]

Pull it up on my phone now. And I asked Caitlin if she had seen it. She said, yeah, she saw it. She didn't know what it was from. But my point is I don't believe anything now because AI makes everything look so much funnier. This was the funniest thing I've ever seen. Like, if this actually happened to the game, I think it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. So can you Google Mike?

[Mike]

Yeah. It says it is real.

[Bobby Bones]

No way.

[Mike]

Happened on November 24, 2023.

[Bobby Bones]

You want to see it?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Watch this. Okay, here they come. Smoke all the first level of players.

[Eddie]

There goes about 10 of them.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, and then one hits the ground.

[Bobby Bones]

Now they're stopped. They're stopped. They're stopped. Looks like one's choking now. Look at, look at all of them. They're all piled up. They're all piled up. They're on the ground, piled up. Dude, the savage.

[Eddie]

The savage is the guy.

[Kevin]

And then one comes out.

[Eddie]

The one that jumps over everyone.

[Bobby Bones]

Not me. Well, the first one that show. It looks like there's a problem. It looks like he's vomiting because he got hit with gas. Like, you see him come on the very edge. Yeah, like he's like. And then the. The smoke dissipates a bit. You see them all, like, laying on top of each other. I thought, that's so funny. I thought it was AI.

[Mike]

Apparently it was Venables who fell first and then everybody fell behind him.

[Kevin]

Oh, no.

[Mike]

He couldn't see because of the smoke.

[Eddie]

Man, when older people fall. Dude, that hurts. That's so sad.

[Kevin]

Like, hurts to watch or.

[Mike]

Hurts.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it hurts to watch older people.

[Bobby Bones]

But we didn't see it, so we didn't watch it. I thought it was fake.

[Kevin]

38 is like stepping on dudes, you.

[Eddie]

Know, My son was watching YouTube. I don't know, he's just watching YouTube clips or whatever, and he found one and it was like 50 stadium fails, NFL stadium fails. And there was one there where, like, I guess it was pretty recent where the Titans. The pyro fell over and like burnt half of the sideline.

[Bobby Bones]

People on it or just the sideline?

[Eddie]

Well, no, there were people there, but once it fell, everyone got out of the way.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you laugh at these or is this like people catching on fire?

[Eddie]

I mean, no, no, no, no one dies, but like. And there was one where there was a fire in the rafter in the top, like in one of the rafters of the arena or whatever, whatever the stadium was. And some. One dude had to go up there and like, turn out the fire. And once he, like, turned it out a piece fell all the way down to the field and then started the fuel.

[Bobby Bones]

That's not fun anymore.

[Eddie]

It looked like it was from the 80s. I'm like, this is crazy. I don't remember any of these.

[Bobby Bones]

How'd that chain gang go?

[Eddie]

Success.

[Kevin]

Oh, I saw your picture.

[Eddie]

Success.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, you shouldn't be taking pictures while you're out on the field.

[Eddie]

I snuck one in.

[Bobby Bones]

That's like a cop, like, in the middle of a drug bus taking a selfie.

[Eddie]

I know. What I did was I waited till like, some of the student Camera people came by me, you know, and then I just kind of look like everyone else just took my phone up, took a picture. But, dude, I did great. Except. Except, dude, when the game was over, fight breaks out on the field. Both teams. As soon as the game was over, one kid throws a helmet. Next thing you know, the both teams are fighting, and I'm in the middle of it.

[Bobby Bones]

You're on the field.

[Eddie]

I mean, no, it happened right by the sideline.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it.

[Eddie]

And, like, we were about to just put the chains up and go home. The fight's in the middle, and we're, like, freaking out. I want you to guys to guess what I did. Did I fight?

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Eddie]

Did I try to break up the fight?

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Eddie]

Did I bail?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you probably lowered your head.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And got out of there.

[Eddie]

Dude, I bailed.

[Bobby Bones]

They're not even your kids. Yeah, if they were your kids, maybe you hop in and try to make sure. No, of course. You got it out of there.

[Kevin]

You want to use that chain and just as deflection. Get out of my way.

[Eddie]

One of the coaches that was next to me is like, oh, hell no. And he ran out and he started to break up the fight. I'm like, man, that sounds. That looks kind of cool to, like, go over.

[Kevin]

He's a coach, so he should.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you shouldn't. You are an unbiased. Not even the main member of the chain gang. You're like the last member of the chain gang. You're working your way up, though.

[Kevin]

You're reserved.

[Eddie]

You know what was cool? At the end of the game, the head ref came up to me, shook my hand, said, thank you very much.

[Kevin]

Just you or everybody?

[Eddie]

The chain gang, the three of us.

[Bobby Bones]

That's cool. I mean, and I felt.

[Eddie]

Dude, I felt like I was part of it.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, that's cool then.

[Eddie]

Thank you.

[Kevin]

Hey, did you ask him? Hey, how'd you get into ref?

[Eddie]

No, no.

[Bobby Bones]

I still think you should look into MBA referee.

[Eddie]

That looks so stressful. There's no way. Because the coach starts yelling at the ref, and the ref's like, I'd given you one warning. Stay off that field.

[Bobby Bones]

That's cool, though. You know, you get to see that. That's cool. You get to see that, man. I could be you. You know, you can be a line judge. You don't be the white hat.

[Eddie]

That's true. There are a couple guys that are kind of. You know, they don't say much.

[Kevin]

Have you been yelled at by a coach yet or.

[Eddie]

No? No. I've almost tripped a coach Just because of the chain.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You know, so he. Now that's more him tripping over you. Totally tripping a coach.

[Kevin]

Yeah, because they always say it too, don't they? Like, watch, chain, watch.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Chains coming through. Chains coming through. And I do appreciate some of the coaches. Some of the coaches tell the kids to get back. Get back. Chain gang's coming through.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Love that.

[Bobby Bones]

People were asking me if I ended up betting Brandon Walker.

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah. Did you?

[Bobby Bones]

Brandon Walker from barstool?

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Who was. Wanted to bet me straight up. And he called me a chicken S on his show the Bad Word a couple times. And I wasn't afraid to bet Brandon Walker, but God, no, I replied, I'm not betting you. We're gonna lose this game.

[Eddie]

Okay, good.

[Kevin]

I wonder the whole time, was there any part of you during the game we're like, dang, I. I should have made that bet.

[Bobby Bones]

No, because I know we're always one step away or one turn from losing. Guys, I don't think you understand.

[Eddie]

We don't understand. We do.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, even you got to win championships in the 90s. Yep.

[Eddie]

Yeah, we have. Super bowl championship.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Championships. Like, I don't, but you do too. Jerry Jones, team man. Jerry Jones. Jimmy Johnson. They were.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's not my team. I'm not a Cowboys fan. 1964 doesn't count.

[Eddie]

64 before they were the champs.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that doesn't count.

[Eddie]

Weren't they also the champs in 90?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, basketball in 94.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But football never had a deal.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Never kind of sucked. We almost got there once. We were undefeated until Tennessee and Clint Stoner fumbled. We'd won that game.

[Eddie]

What year was that?

[Bobby Bones]

97.

[Eddie]

High school.

[Bobby Bones]

98. 98. We see when the stern over was Mike. 98. I don't do yours very well. The 99. We ended beating him with Anthony Lucas. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. But, yeah, it's bad. 98.

[Eddie]

Yeah, 98.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I do years based on Pearl Jam albums, especially those 90s. Like. 98. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That was the Yield album.

[Eddie]

I remember that year.

[Bobby Bones]

We should mention before we go, my wife also does this thing where, if I'm talking about something she has no interest in, she pushes the air. Like, pushes the skip button. She just does that. I know. She just wants. She wants me to skip. Just go to the next track or whatever. I have to talk about.

[Eddie]

Did I make you think?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you did.

[Eddie]

I didn't want to hit the button.

[Bobby Bones]

You were doing that. I just hit the button. I Never got to use on anybody. And it really felt powerful because she does that crap to me. We're in the car, we were driving somewhere, and I was talking about something, and she just pushes the. The glove box. And I was like, what are you doing? She goes, skip.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, what? She goes, I don't. I'm bored. Because I think I was talking about some.

[Eddie]

Some stupid thing in sports.

[Bobby Bones]

And so when you were on that.

[Kevin]

I was like, like, skip, you're gonna tell her. You can be like, I did it.

[Bobby Bones]

I did it. And it felt so good.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So good.

[Eddie]

You know what I did? I was reading a book. Not really a book, but I was reading something.

[Bobby Bones]

And like, that's called TikTok. It's called watching TikTok.

[Eddie]

No, it's actually like literature. And I try to zoom into it like an idiot.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, like a page. Yeah. I don't think you're an idiot for doing that.

[Eddie]

I was like, man, I can't see.

[Mike]

Let me zoom.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think I've done stuff like that. The Bengals game, we obviously have an interest in that because it's one of the teams that we bought in our league as a crazy. It's a crazy game to just see an on site kit get recovered. It was itself.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

The fact that they came back and made it a game.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep, yep.

[Eddie]

And then the onside kick.

[Bobby Bones]

They got it, which is crazy. And then get the lead freaking scored.

[Eddie]

And then what happened?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, then we knew that the Bears were going to get in field goal range and make it, because I think I have a text.

[Eddie]

What? 50 seconds?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, this is over. They're gonna get in field goal range, and you almost are in field go range now on the kickoff. Yeah. And so, yeah, I was like, this is. And then they freaking. It goes to Courtland Court. Whatever. Loveland. Oh, my God.

[Kevin]

I was outside cooking after Bengals scored.

[Eddie]

I was like.

[Kevin]

I was barbecuing. I was like, perfect. I'm out here cooking. I'm like, dang, can't believe they're winning this game.

[Eddie]

I walk in, but you were feeling good.

[Kevin]

Bengals lost. I'm like, what?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you didn't see that?

[Kevin]

I didn't see. And then I look at your. I look at my phone with you guys, and I'm like, I can't even text back right now.

[Eddie]

It was so bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Right now, Buffalo, this. We're watching the end of this game, so we're going to shut this down. Buffalo 28, 21 over Kansas City. We need Kansas City to win.

[Kevin]

They Just got the ball.

[Bobby Bones]

Kansas City did.

[Kevin]

Yeah, Buffalo just punted.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, a couple of things and we'll be. We'll wrap it. The way that the Auburn head coaching firing happened was the funniest thing I've ever seen on social media and maybe in coaching firings, because how that was announced was a guy named Great Underscore. Tweeter tweeted out way early in the day, breaking. It's like from a burner account. He's not even a guy with the real profile. He just trolls people from this account. He tweets out. The standing 1:30pm Tea time held by coach Hugh Freeze at the Auburn University Club has been canceled. We've attached screenshots of the T sheet change. A shakeup is imminent.

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Someone who's probably a member at the country club saw that his standing tee time, which is his wife, Jill Freeze, is under her name, 1:30 every Sunday. It was canceled. And that's how it was announced, that that's canceled.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Looks like he's not playing. Why is he not playing? He's gonna be at this facility. Boom, fired.

[Eddie]

So is that what Brandon was talking about? Just playing golf? Playing a lot of golf?

[Bobby Bones]

He. Well, he plays a lot of golf. Yeah.

[Kevin]

It's known if you're playing every Sunday during season, like, come on.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I don't prom with that, but.

[Eddie]

What if you go, like, have a drink somewhere? Yeah. Every Sunday.

[Bobby Bones]

As long as you're winning, who cares?

[Eddie]

Yeah. Four hours, dude, you can have.

[Bobby Bones]

He didn't have kids that are. That are young. I agree. And maybe you're playing with your coaches.

[Eddie]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think people are following his handicap and seeing how much he was playing more than once a week. Well, he was the guy I was talking about like months ago that it went viral because he wanted to make his handicap real. So he logged every freaking round he played. And you can follow that. He was playing like three, four times a week supposedly. Yeah, it's not good. That'd be awesome, though.

[Kevin]

It would be cool.

[Bobby Bones]

That'd be awesome. I think that's it.

[Eddie]

How about Cam Little?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, 68 yard, new record.

[Eddie]

Go. Broke the record.

[Kevin]

He's got another one.

[Eddie]

And how long was that?

[Kevin]

169, 70.

[Bobby Bones]

No, we were just talking about the record at 68.

[Eddie]

Brandon, what makes it cool is he broke the record.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but he came back and tied the game. Now it's an overtime.

[Eddie]

Do you know what was crazy about that was funny about that Is. Is red zone. Is they showed that. That kick and then the next one I think the char.

[Kevin]

The Rams.

[Eddie]

The Rams.

[Kevin]

The 39 yarder or something.

[Eddie]

Oh, my God, that's so mean.

[Bobby Bones]

Poor guy.

[Kevin]

I saw that too.

[Eddie]

His family's watching, like, oh, damn.

[Kevin]

Yeah, good for him.

[Bobby Bones]

That's cool. In our little fantasy league, I'm playing Mike this week. Mike, your team struggles this year, huh?

[Mike]

Yeah, it's bad. I got one win.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I see years with the trending loss, like, I think it's like a L4.

[Mike]

My worst year of all time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I didn't. I was playing Mike's team and I was like, okay. And then I noticed he was 1 and 7.

[Eddie]

Does he have the. What is the red one?

[Bobby Bones]

Says the L. He's only lost one in a row.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

He must have got that one win right before that. So he had lost like six and then one one. So. Yeah. So I'm playing Mike this week. Looks like I'm going to do do. Okay.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All right. That's it. Thank you, guys. Thanks to Brandon Marcelo, everybody.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Good.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Good win, Kevin. Patriots. Eddie, bad Bengals loss.

[Eddie]

Dude, this is just getting worse.

[Kevin]

It's okay.

[Bobby Bones]

The packers lost too, but packers did lose good. Keep pounding what I keep saying.

[Eddie]

That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that was awesome. All right. Thank you, guys. That is it. That's lots to say. No, that's wrong show.

[Eddie]

That is like. That is like saying. That's like saying the wrong girl's name, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

No, here's why I said that. I sit in this chair. We don't always do that. We don't always.

[Eddie]

You just told me your ex girlfriend.

[Bobby Bones]

We don't always do this show from this house.

[Eddie]

Messed up, bro.

[Bobby Bones]

That's so weird, dude.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I mean, you're always sitting right there, same chair ending. I'm like, all right, that's Matt Castle.

[Kevin]

Play for the Cowboys.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. That's all. We're done. Bye, everybody. Thank you. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on Socials at BrandonRayMusic. You can follow the show on Instagram @BobbyBoneSports. Thanks to our crew, co host producereddy, segment producer Ickoffkevin and executive producer ikegistro. The most important. Thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles. This is an I heart podcast.