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Bobby Bones
This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking football and they all wear a whistle yet.
Daryl Johnston
Stupid. But why did you expect.
Bobby Bones
It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.
Daryl Johnston
Blow the whistle.
Bobby Bones
Thank you, Daryl Johnston. Moose. Moose. Coming up in a little bit.
Eddie
That's amazing.
Bobby Bones
I only got him for you.
Eddie
Is this for Dude? I mean, that's so cool. He was so awesome back in the 90s.
Kevin
Every time I see a cowboy guest coming on the calendar, I'm like, is this ready?
Bobby Bones
It literally is. There were some guests offered up, and I thought, if we're gonna talk, we want to talk to somebody we're interested in. And some of them were just, like, former players. And that's all cool, but, like, Daryl Johnson's been in the Super Bowl. He's also a cowboy. He's also a commentator. You know, he's also an executive at the ufl, which is starting right when the NFL is over.
Eddie
He was a great commentator.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Super smart.
Eddie
Like, weirdly, because you think like, ah, football players, like, come on, what are they?
Bobby Bones
You think big, dumb pullback. Yeah, but he's. Yeah, that's coming up in just a few minutes.
Daryl Johnston
All right.
Bobby Bones
Around the room. Eddie, what do you have?
Eddie
So, you know, we're going to the super bowl. And obviously I told my kids, and they're super excited. They're like, dad, we cannot believe you're going to Super Bowl. Then I told him, like, hey, you know, we're doing like a bunch of interviews, too. So we're going to hang out with Emmett and Dion and Nico Collins. And so the question came up, dad, like, could you get a couple things signed for us? Like, they have Emmett Smith cards, Dallas Cowboys football and stuff like that. And I was like, you know, it's not really our thing. That's Reed's thing. Mostly.
Bobby Bones
That is Reed's thing. That is Reed's thing. But I'll get for him.
Eddie
I said I'd ask, and I pretty much know the answer.
Bobby Bones
I think, yeah, the answer's no. We can't be the adults there working, asking the players to sign stuff. Mr. Smith, we signed this. If you had a kid, that's fine.
Eddie
Okay, so I take my kids with me.
Bobby Bones
You don't want to be those people for the most part. Because then if we do it again next year, it's like, who Are they gonna avoid the autograph weirdos?
Eddie
Yeah, probably.
Bobby Bones
I mean, like, if it's part of a bit, but yeah, if you're just, like, bringing merch, it's probably like. My kids were like, just fake sign some stuff.
Eddie
They were dead serious. Like, dad, dad, dad. I mean, honestly, do you think I can just go up to Emmett and be like, hey, man, this is for my kids. Sign four of these.
Bobby Bones
I think you could. Not where we're gonna be broadcasting, but if you see them out somewhere else and you're not with us, you're just a weird adult.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
You just can't as, like, part of this operation unless you're read. Coach Musk, will you sign my hat? And we're like.
Reed
I feel like too much access is more intimate, though, you know? Cause we're like. It's just us and them versus, like, being an NFL thing, you know?
Bobby Bones
What are you talking about?
Reed
Like, asking for autographs, like, when we do it with too much.
Bobby Bones
Oh, so you're saying you're giving an excuse for yours?
Reed
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Oh, no. It was still extremely awkward.
Eddie
That was so awkward.
Bobby Bones
It was so awkward. We're, like, in Coach Musselman's office, and Reed, like, pulls the hat out of his bag and, will you sign this? And we weren't even, like, leaving. Like, that should be the first of all. I don't.
Reed
Like, he was already signing something.
Bobby Bones
But if it should be the very, very last thing so you don't have to, like, have him sign something, hang out.
Reed
I haven't done it again, you know, I learned my lesson.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
A year later, you're still getting crap for it. That's probably why.
Bobby Bones
So I would go, no, as part of this battery. But if you see them at Chili's, right?
Eddie
Then I can have them sign all the cards.
Bobby Bones
They walk up with the whole thing. Kevin, what do you have?
Kevin
Yeah, I got a question for you. At what point do we just get rid of the Pro Bowl? Because, listen, love Drake May, love my Patriots, but this week he was named to the Pro Bowl. And I'm like, really? Drake may to the Pro Bowl. And Mac Jones did this a couple years ago. And I'm like, really? Mac Jones? And I get it. All these quarterbacks opt out. Josh Allen and Lamar, they're like, I don't need that. I'm not going to go. So they got to plug somebody in. But it's like, at what point do we just say, you know what, guys, I'm good. I don't think we really need to do the Pro bowl anymore.
Bobby Bones
They just need bodies for the tug of war.
Eddie
That's a fun event.
Bobby Bones
So now, you know, they don't play the game anymore, obviously. So it's all just show up and do field day. You guys have to field day back in elementary school. Three legged race. Yeah. That's basically what they're doing down there. And they just need warm bodies. And so it's next one up. And the players love it because sometimes that's an incentive in their contract. So if you're Drake May, you're probably also going, you know what? I probably don't deserve to go to the Pro bowl if it's like the first three quarterbacks. But in your contract, Pro bowl incentive, $300,000. Of course, you're now a Pro bowl quarterback.
Kevin
I get that part of it. But it's like we can always just say, hey, they made the Pro bowl, so you can put it on their resume or whatever.
Bobby Bones
The Pro bowl is just a weird thing anyway. It's at a bad time. Yeah. Look at basketball and look at baseball mid season. You can't really do that with football because you let people get hurt. If you're playing the game, it's just a different animal. It just should be an awards banquet.
Eddie
That's literally the only break NFL has. Right. Because there's no break in the middle of the season. And then they just have this one week before the super bowl and they're like, there you go.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It's kind of the end of the season.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Where again, baseball and basketball, if you're an all star, you play and then you go back right where NFL, it's over. Everybody wants to go on their vacations. They're out of the playoffs.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Last thing they want to go do is go do hopscotch competition.
Kevin
Yeah. I feel like unless you have like a sponsorship that you're going there for and getting paid more, that's about it. But I mean, he had 15 touchdowns and 10 interceptions this year. And it's like, yeah, Pro bowl.
Daryl Johnston
Hey, it's 20 for a rookie.
Bobby Bones
He's pretty good. Yeah.
Kevin
I love Drake.
Bobby Bones
He'll.
Kevin
He'll make plenty of Pro Bowls, don't get me wrong. But this year I was like kind of. Ah, all right.
Bobby Bones
We're thinking about the super bowl and we've had parties at our house. We're not this year because we're going to be there. You guys like to have super bowl parties now or have you grown out of them? Would you rather go have one or not at all? Eddie?
Eddie
I Mean, it's different for me, right? Because like, I have four kids now. Now it's like an experience for them. It's not for me. Back in the day, it was like, we're going to go to a party, they're going to have a bunch of beer, we're going to get drunk, and then next thing you know, the game's over, it's 9:00. You're like, dang, dude, it's Sunday. I got work in the morning. I feel terrible. That's not my life anymore. Now it's like, all right, the kids are there. We have all their. We. We tell them to invite their friends and then their parents come over and then we do bingo cards.
Bobby Bones
It's a kid super bowl party.
Eddie
It's totally just a family friendly super bowl party, which I love, dude. It's a lot of fun.
Bobby Bones
We're not doing it this year.
Eddie
Not because I'm going to be at the super bowl, baby. That's amazing.
Bobby Bones
What about you? No kids yet.
Kevin
No kids yet. I'd rather go to somebody's house, but nothing crazy. I don't need a crazy party. I would almost even just rather sit at my place with my fiance and watch it just like any other big Sunday football game so I can focus. Especially if it's a team I really care about. So I'd rather go somewhere. If I were to choose, I think.
Bobby Bones
I'd rather do nothing. It's what I've done the last couple of years. Just watch it. Order the food that I want. And if you're going to order food from a delivery service, you have to order way ahead. It's almost like Valentine's Day. If you guys, if you're not already thinking about what you're going to do right now.
Kevin
That's coming up.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And today is the. This. This will be on the 31st. If you're not already thinking about it right now, you're not going to get anything good.
Reed
Kevin already forgot.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
Two weeks.
Bobby Bones
And not that it's the most important or not that it. You have to. But it's the same with food on super bowl night. Unless you're going to the grocery store. Like, if you try to order barbecue or something, they're backed up forever.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So you got to get ahead of that game.
Kevin
Pizza. What's your favorite super bowl food then to order. If you could order one thing, pizza is just easiest.
Eddie
Yeah, I mean, that just goes with the territory. You gotta have pizza.
Bobby Bones
I just try to talk myself out of eating anything bad at the beginning of the game. Because if I do that, I'm through it. It's like the movie. If I get a bunch of crap, I eat it before the movie even starts. So it's like I eat candy popcorn. When the movie's finally coming on, I'm full and bloated and gross. So. But yes, as of now, our crew, we are going to the Super Bowl.
Kevin
All of us.
Bobby Bones
We're all going there. I didn't say going in. But so far, the person who does not have a ticket is Kevin or Reed. So I do have another game today that we're gonna play.
Eddie
Let's go.
Bobby Bones
And so this is just gonna be. Because the loser is out. You do not have a ticket. You are going. You have to work. It's gonna be awesome because we're have fun. Meaning it's a couple days of interviewing great players, but the loser is not going to have a ticket to get in the game. And I looked at resale right now, they're like $6,000. Jesus. So I know I'm not paying for that.
Reed
You're leaning into that. Like, guess what, guys?
Kevin
I wasn't gonna ask.
Bobby Bones
Good. Because you won't like my answer. So we're gonna do one game of the three today, and on Monday, we'll wrap it up.
Kevin
Wait.
Reed
Oh, man. It's even prolonged.
Eddie
So it's not. It's not based on one game. It's based on three games.
Bobby Bones
Maybe best of three. I don't want the person who loses today to be out of it going into the weekend. Of course.
Eddie
Of course we don't want it.
Bobby Bones
Casey, would you mind going to my office and grabbing that game? Bring it in here.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So in my office, I have the game Operation.
Eddie
Oh, that game is so hard.
Reed
Did you drink coffee this morning? Yeah, I haven't had coffee. So.
Bobby Bones
Good or bad?
Daryl Johnston
Good.
Reed
I'm not as shaky.
Eddie
Yeah, it's good.
Bobby Bones
So we're gonna put operation down on the table.
Eddie
This is the one where you have to. You're a doctor, and you have to pinch the little stuff out of there.
Bobby Bones
Oh, my God.
Eddie
And if you touch the edge, it shocks you.
Bobby Bones
Yes. Ah. What just happened? Did you shock yourself?
Kevin
No, no. I'm, like, shaking my hands, getting them ready.
Bobby Bones
Got it.
Kevin
My wrist loose.
Bobby Bones
So we will be playing operation coming up in a few minutes.
Eddie
This is awesome.
Bobby Bones
And someone will go down a point.
Kevin
So it's best of three.
Bobby Bones
Yes. And this is just game one. We also, Mike, if you could turn that microphone on over here. I want to hear. Because operation has gotten a little quieter.
Eddie
Oh, really?
Bobby Bones
It doesn't go. It does, but not near as loud. Is that mic on? Casey?
Kevin
Hello?
Bobby Bones
Okay, so it's more of a vibe right now.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
So as they play, they're also. We're also gonna have a judge standing by to make sure the nose doesn't light up. So Eddie will be running cameras. Casey, you'll probably be the judge. And Reid and Kevin. I'm not even sure. Do you get other cards? Do you draw a card?
Reed
I think you draw a card and it tells you which one you have to go for.
Bobby Bones
Okay, so operation coming up.
Eddie
And there are some body parts that are easier to get than others, I think.
Reed
Oh, yeah, you don't want that wishbone, man.
Bobby Bones
I gotta read the rules here.
Eddie
Okay.
Bobby Bones
For the most part. Okay. Do you have a commercial? No commercial.
Kevin
We're good.
Bobby Bones
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We got the table.
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Yep.
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Daryl Johnston
When you send it.
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It was like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition.
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It's extremely pink.
Bobby Bones
Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Now let's go over to three time super bowl champion Daryl Johnston, AKA Moose. He is now the Executive VP of football operations for the ufl. So we talk about that. We talk about the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, a few other things. Obviously, a bunch of Cowboys fans on this show. So let's talk. Here he is, Daryl Johnston, if I'm correct, you have three rings. Where do you keep the rings? How often do you flex them for your friends?
Daryl Johnston
They're tucked away. I don't wear them a lot. I don't. I even forgot to have it on yesterday, which, you know, I'm halfway out to Arlington and I'm like, oh, my God. You know, one of those occasions where you really like to have that super bowl ring on your finger? And I left it. I left it at home in the save.
Bobby Bones
So if, like, cousins are coming over, do you pull them out? Because they know, you know, they're going to want to ask to see them, right?
Eddie
The.
Daryl Johnston
The super bowl ring. Believe it or not, one of the cool things that. That Jerry Jones did for us was he gave us replica super bowl trophies. So the one that everybody wants to see, because those are out on display in my office. So when. When people come over and they see that, they always want a picture taken with the. The replica Lombardi Trophy. So that. That probably gets a little bit more attention than the ring, believe it or not. But, yeah, once they see, then they ask about the ring. So get the picture with both of them.
Bobby Bones
Before you played ball of Syracuse and you were in high school, were you, like the ultimate athlete? Did you play every position?
Daryl Johnston
Yeah, high school was fun. Small high school. Gosh, if I was to think about our total roster, we went had 27 guys, you know, total on our roster. And with that, you know, we had, you know, probably, you know, the significant amount of those 27 were playing both ways, offensively and defensively. So, you know, being from a small town and being on a, you know, kind of that small stage of football, I was a running back. I was a outside linebacker. I punted, I kicked. So. But that was all because of, you know, growing up as a kid. The punt, passing, kick competitions, you know, I competed in those. And I actually made it all the way down to the AFC Finals one year. So I was one. I was one win away from going to the super bowl and probably had the worst punt I have ever done in my entire life.
Bobby Bones
How long was it the Alamo Dome.
Daryl Johnston
When they went all the way out and then they started bringing it back along the straight line? It was creeping closer and closer towards me. I think it probably netted about 25 yards.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's about max for me, though. Yeah, that had been my total. So in college, when did it start to transition, like your role because you ran the ball, but then at some point, obviously they knew you could block and play the fullback position. When did that start to fill for you?
Daryl Johnston
The big thing for me in Syracuse was we were an option based offense. So, you know, the fullback is going to get the first read on everything. So we ran, we ran. So we ran a number of different ways to do the option. And then part of that was also some of the power game that you see in today's NFL, you know, the pin and poles and things like that. So we were very versatile. So, you know, for me as a fullback, it allowed me, you know, to show my ability as a ball carrier, to show my ability as a blocker, even as a pass receiver. Not a whole lot, but you know, you know, a few opportunities there. So it was funny when I came to Dallas and became the fullback in that offense and there's not really a lot of opportunity to carry the football and you know, people kind of look back at some of my college stats and they didn't realize, you know, that I had over 100 carries, you know, every season. You know, I was a starter at Syracuse. So when I left Syracuse University, I was, I was in the top 10 rushing of all time. And I mean, that's Jim Brown, Floyd Little, you know, Larry Zonka, and, you know, I was kind of hanging in there with them. I'm not in there anymore. But, but when I graduated in 1989, I was, I was in the top 10 in rushing.
Bobby Bones
These guys now before the super bowl, they have two weeks. When you were playing, did they have the two week gap or was it just the one week gap?
Daryl Johnston
We actually had both. We had a two week gap and then we also had, in our second super bowl in Atlanta, we had a one week gap. And that was actually the game, the championship game. Troy got a concussion. So that was, that was very challenging. That was a quick turnaround. The two weeks would have been huge for us that year, but we were on that one week schedule that season. And if you go back and watch that game, that's, that's why, you know, Emmett Smith was the MVP in that game. We really leaned heavily, you know, on the run game, you know, to make sure that Troy was okay in the pocket and was going to be able to finish that game and didn't take any unnecessary hits.
Bobby Bones
So then my assumption is you like the two week better than the one. It gave everybody a chance to rest and get healthy.
Daryl Johnston
Well, rest and get healthy and then logistically, how much you have to do, you know, when you have the two weeks, you win the championship game, you get your ticket allotment, you find out what all that is, you can start to work on bringing family and friends to the game. You know, that gives them the opportunity to coordinate flights, hotels. There are so many things that go on besides the game in that, that short week that, that made it really, really challenging. And it was very different back then. You know, Tuesday was media day and both teams kind of alternated, you know, during the course of Tuesday. So your arrival day was Monday. You just played the game Sunday. I think we were actually late that, that year. So we were the second game on championship Sunday. So you're, you're getting a late start, really no time to celebrate. I mean, you're going right into planning mode and then you're on a flight, you know, the next morning to head down to the host city, you know, to get in, get settled in, and boom, you hit the ground running on Tuesday. So the, the one week was, was really challenging and, and from virtually every perspective you can think of and, and I'm sure it was challenging for, for the NFL as well. You know, kind of getting all those assets, you know, off of championship locations down into the, the host city that was being prepped. So yeah, I'm glad they've moved to that two week window and really made that kind of the staple now because having done them both ways, I would never wish upon anybody, you know, that, that, that one week time frame, especially as, as big as the game has gotten now and how many logistical things that they're going to have to deal with.
Bobby Bones
My friend here in the studio who's wearing a sling, broken arm, but he is a massive Cowboys fan, been his whole life. And so, Eddie, I'd like for you to meet my friend Darrell.
Eddie
What's up, Darrell? Good to meet you, man.
Daryl Johnston
What'd you do with the army?
Eddie
It's not a good story. I went roller skating with my kids. It was my youngest kid's birthday and I fell. We were racing and I fell. Broke my radius bone.
Daryl Johnston
Did you put the arm out to brace?
Bobby Bones
I did.
Eddie
I tried to fall on my hands, but I guess the force kind of made a little snap right here. Anyway, that's not important. Darrell, here's the important question. One of my favorite things in the world when you were playing was the yell moose every single time you got the ball. What? Like, did you like that? Like what? There was no social media then so for me, it was just. I heard other people do it, so I started doing it. But. But when did that, like, start? And did you even like it?
Daryl Johnston
No. It's funny because a lot of people think that the, the nickname followed me from Syracuse, but it actually originated in Dallas. Babe Laufenberg was one of our backup quarterbacks. And when we started practice, you go through team stretch and then you go into individual period. And the running backs for individual are all the way down on the opposite end of the field in the corner. And we were usually the last group that came all the way back up to the front end of the field to get ready to work. Offensive group, which is everybody but the offensive line. So as we were jogging down the field, you know, everybody else was kind of waiting for us. So, you know, Babe always said, when you guys head this way, you look like a moose walking in a field of deer. Because I was 6 foot 2, 245, my backup fullback at that time, Broderick Sargent, was. Was a shorter, stockier build. He was, he was probably, you know, know, 5 foot 10, 2 40ish, you know, and then all the running backs, you know, at that time were under six foot as well. So I would, at six foot two, you know, coming that way, you know, just looked a little bit larger than everybody else. So just this innocent comment like that, you know, became the genesis of the nickname. And then it, it got on to local radio. Bradsham, who did the Cowboy games on radio, started to use it during his broadcasts. And then Troy shared it with John Madden during a production meeting before a game one time. And then John used it on the broadcast and that was the end of Daryl and Moose was the moniker. And I kind of differentiate between people if they call my name, if they call Daryl or dj, especially because DJ means it's a college connection somehow. There's a connection to college if somebody calls me dj, but if it's a moose, then. Then it definitely comes to the Dallas area. So just, just by being summoned, I know kind of the timeframe of when we should have met.
Eddie
Were the 90s just the best time of your life? Because, I mean, you were winning, we were winning. And like, I feel like the Cowboys and anyone on the Cowboys was just on top of the world in the mid-90s.
Daryl Johnston
Yeah, I had a. I had a heck of a run even going back into the late 80s. You know, at Syracuse, we got on a roll. My junior and senior year we were 11. And, oh, my junior year got tied in the Sugar bowl by auburn and finished 11. Oh, and one my senior year. We ended up 10 and two. Had two horrible games during the course of the season. Played terrible at Ohio State, played terrible at West Virginia. I think we had 11 turnovers total in both of those games, but we ended up beating LSU in the hall of Fame game. So had two really good seasons at Syracuse to wrap up my college career and then, boom, walk into 1 in 15. So it was, it was a big adjustment. And then you started to see the talent that was on that roster and then just the, the way that Jimmy was going to build it. I'm a big culture guy. I still, I still think the football players need a lot of discipline. You know, we're, we're young boys in a, in a big, in a big body, you know, playing a violent game. And we need a little bit of that thumb on the top so you could see a lot of these pieces coming together. And North Turner was really that final piece that we brought in getting ready for the 91 season. So, yeah, once we got on a roll there, it was just, it was, it was a unique time. When you really kind of look at all those players and all those coaches coming together at that one point in time and, and then being able to max out that opportunity, I think that's one of the things that you see that sometimes doesn't happen, is all these different things are coming together and you see a group not maximize that opportunity for one reason or another. And I was, I'll always be proud of our guys for, for really kind of recognizing what was happening and then, and maximizing that opportunity and winning those three Super Bowls in five in four years.
Bobby Bones
The Chiefs going for a three peat, something you guys, almost. How hard is that to just repeat? Much less three peat.
Daryl Johnston
Yeah, well, just getting to the game, you know, that was one of the things that I hadn't really spent a whole lot of time like digging into. But when you go back and you look at the packers and the Steelers twice, and us, the Patriots, the Broncos, you know, all these teams that had that opportunity to win three in a row, none of us made it back to that third Super Bowl. They're the first team to actually make it back to the super bowl, to have the opportunity to win three in a row. So you know that just by itself is a tremendous feat because that's never been done before. So there's a little bit of, there's a little bit of skill, there's a little bit of luck. Again, it's, it's Kansas City maximizing The opportunity that's been presented to them, you know, with, with Andy Reid as the head coach and Steve Spagnolo as the defensive coordinator and Patrick Mahomes as your guy. And you've watched that team kind of shift and change during Patrick's career and you've watched that team shift and adjust to what the, the changes are and still be able to stay on top of of the AFC west, of the AFC Conf Conference and really the NFL. So it's been very impressive because one of the things that generated the change to free agency was the prevention of the dynastic teams. What we had in Dallas, we were half of my career the old business way, which was draft and develop and not a lot of player movement back and forth to the second half of my career. Free agency, where, you know you can get better quickly and you saw a lot of worst to first scenarios in several divisions where teams, you know, drafted well, but then also signed free agents well. And all of a sudden you've got this really, really good gen gelling of talent. You know, that, that is something that's really hard to do in today's NFL and, and for Kansas City to be able to do that year after year. And you go back and just watch the transformation when it's, you know, Patrick in the early days of his career with Tyreek and all those guys on the offensive side of the ball, it was the offense and they were explosive and you're going to have to outscore them. Well now it's the defense and it's Patrick understanding if I just don't make critical mistakes and turn the ball over, this group has got a great opportunity to win the game because we can lean on our defense now. And Steve Spagnolo has done a great job over the last two, three seasons as they've adjusted it kind of gone through this change. So that's one of the most impressive things for me for Kansas City as they sit here, you know, on the threshold of doing something that nobody's ever done before in the super bowl era.
Bobby Bones
What'd you think of Coach Schottenheimer getting the promotion to Dallas?
Daryl Johnston
I like Brian as a man. You know, it's, it's. I don't know him well as a coach. I do know the history and the lineage of, of the name, especially Marty Schottenheimer is one of my favorite guys, you know, always enjoy playing against his teams. They're always physical. You go coach very, very well, very disciplined. So all the things that I talked about with Jimmy, you know, that's something that Brian's been around. I'm interested to see what he does with this opportunity. You know, it's his first time, you know, as a head coach in the NFL. You know, I don't think it's a risky hire. You know, when, when Jerry talked about that, you know, a lot of these coaches, you know, go through that similar process. You know, at some point you've got to be a first time head coach. You know, Jacksonville is doing it with Liam Cohen. There's risk there for them to bring in, you know, Liam Cohen. So this is something that's kind of become, you know, it's, it's the process. You know, when you get to the NFL, at some point you've got to go out and hire a first time, you know, NFL head coach. You know, Jerry did it with Jimmy in an unconventional way. Bringing a guy from the college ranks up and had tremendous success. And I think that that's the point that he's trying to make. You know, when I step outside of the box and do something a little bit differently, you know, I have reaped rewards when I've done that. So, you know, that'll be something that he's going to be able to, you know, talk to the media about. But I think it's been one of those things. I think what has happened with Dallas and for the first time I really, I saw Michael Irvin as critical as I've seen Michael, who's been a great ambassador for, you know, the Dallas Cowboys, you know, in his, in his post career days, even him a little bit frustrated. And sure he wanted Deion Sanders, who's a good friend of his, to have that opportunity, but that's the first time I've seen Michael, you know, that frustrated. So, you know, that's kind of really the microcosm of the entire fan base. And you know, I think the, the perspective that everybody looks at it and not a knock on Brian Schottenheimer, but if we're going to stay status quo, why didn't we stay status quo with Mike McCarthy at the top? So I think that that's the, the one thing that everybody walks away after that announcement is, is the question of if, if the real incentive was not to have a lot of change so we could continue to move forward, you know, with, with what we have in place now. Why wouldn't we have just stayed with Mike McCarthy? I, I do like the Matt Eberfluss higher. You know, I've always been a fan of his, his defenses are, have always Been very, very productive, very, very challenging. We had the Chicago Bears several times this year, and we had him after Matt was fired as head coach and there was a new defensive coordinator that was kind of installing and doing the game planning. And you know, part of this defense is allowing the players to play fast, which means we're not going to complicate things. I think Matt always adds enough. I think he straddles that, that line really, really well, where it's, it's a fundamental defense and it's got its strengths and we allow our players to play fast. But we do have a couple of wrinkles that are going to challenge you offensively. And I think really at the end there, you know, Chicago kind of oversimplified that and maybe lost a little bit of that creativity activity that Matt brings to it. But, but I thought that that was a good hire by Brian. And I think it's going to be interesting to see, you know, how they pair together. But, you know, I think the big question the fan base has is if we're going to stay in house, you know, why didn't we just stay with Coach McCarthy?
Bobby Bones
This UFL headquarters is 100,000 square feet. What the heck is in this thing? Is this multiple, like locker rooms, facilities, everything.
Daryl Johnston
Over 100,000 square feet we could actually use a little bit more if truth was to be told. Really what this one is going to be is going to be where kind of the, the day to day is for all of our players. So it's two floors and there's four pods on each floor. So we've got all of our eight teams almost as equitable as you could have. So kind of the shared space is making sure everybody's kind of working off that same, that same format. So meeting rooms, we're going to put some training rooms in there as well. Meals will be delivered, you know, to hq. So really everything that we're doing there on the player day to day schedule is going to be handled at hq. We'll travel out to our practice sites that are in the DFW area. Our weight room is at Choctaw, our performance center is at Choctaw, and that's a short walk from, from hq. So we've really been able to consolidate everything where all of our eight teams will be, you know, kind of in a, in one location where last year we had them kind of closer to their, their practice facility. So if you were a Dragon stadium in South Lake, your meeting spaces were out that way and then, and that forced you to kind of, you Know, look for your housing, you know, during the course of the season out towards the South Lake area. If you were in Mansfield, you kind of set up your home base out in that direction. So this is bringing everybody together into the Arlington area. And it really helps us because that allows us to move back and forth from team to team, you know, much easier than we had to last year.
Bobby Bones
What's the relationship with the NFL and is it positive or talked about now where it wasn't in the past? Like, what is that working relationship?
Daryl Johnston
They've been great, you know, to the ufl. They were great to us in legacy usfl. They were great to legacy xfl. You know, the NFL has always been a good partner to all the spring leagues, you know, going all the way back to the alliance of American Football with Bill Polian and his connections back into the NFL. So, yeah, there's always been a friendly relationship when you talk about the National Football League with anybody that's kind of popped up on that spring landscape. So we are sharing technology, we are working together with rules. We work with them on player health and safety. You know, Troy Vincent was at our, our opening yesterday in the celebration for UFL hq. He's one of our big points of contact, you know, into the NFL. When you talk about Park Avenue in New York City. So it's been a really, really good relationship. You look at the football side of who we have in the ufl. When you talk about a Russ Brand and you talk about Russ Gilio and Doug Whaley and all these guys that have spent years and years working with, in and around the NFL, you know, we've. We've all established really, really good connections. And then we've got Jim Pop, who's got a lot of experience in the cfl, but also worked back and forth, you know, giving us a different perspective of, you know, the relationship with the NFL. So we're very blessed to have a number of people who've already had an established relationship working with the NFL as we all come together and work in the ufl.
Bobby Bones
When do people start reporting? I think pitchers and catchers in the spring. So when did the players come into this new facility and you guys start? We can start following.
Daryl Johnston
Yeah, the players are going to arrive on February 27th. We'll go through onboarding. 28, 29, still trying to figure out what we're going to do with them on Sunday. We got a little bit of downtime, so we'll kind of work through some different things, maybe get a lot of the kind of that busy work that we can get knocked out at that time. The coaches have their first opportunity to really sit down with their teams in the new facility. I think that that's going to be one of the more exciting things too is, you know, being able to give them kind of a blank canvas in these spaces and then watch what they do as they kind of put their own spin on what the Michigan Panthers want to do, on what the Arlington Renegades want to do, you know, what is that space going to look like, you know, when that team is all done with it. So we're excited to have that. And then the first day of practice is going to be Monday, March 3rd.
Bobby Bones
Finally, what's been fulfilling about being an executive that maybe you didn't think would be as fulfilling as it is?
Daryl Johnston
You start to find the joy in the game in not what you do, but what in others do. And this goes all the way back to, you know, 2019 with my time in the alliance of American football, or 2020 with my time in the XFL in the first iteration. You know, there's a couple of guys that are still in the NFL today, you know, from those teams that, that I was the general manager of. And you take a lot of pride in the fact that you've changed the trajectory of a young man's life now that he spent four years, five years with an NFL salary as opposed to, you know, a spring football salary, that that's a substantial difference. So that makes you feel good. And accounting for legacy, USFL, legacy XFL and then last season as the UFL, we've got 38 guys that we've put back into the NFL on 53 man rosters. And, and as we talked about that is that is life changing for a young man when you talk about the financial impact that that's going to have on him.
Bobby Bones
Well, always excited to have more football, but more high level football, like that's, that's what the real excitement is, I think, for us football fans. And congratulations on the growth and the continued maturation and we really appreciate the insight, you know, big fans of you. Thank you, Darrell and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon. Congratulations and have a great rest of the day.
Daryl Johnston
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're now going to play Operation for Super bowl tickets. Reed and Kevin will both be playing trying to pull parts out of the body. You'll have two minutes to get as many pieces out as possible. What we're going to do is the person that's not going has to leave the room, though.
Eddie
Oh.
Bobby Bones
And not watch and not know this Read. Don't touch anything.
Reed
Some of these are, like, tucked away.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So I'm going to flip the coin here. Recall in the air. Heads or tails?
Reed
Tails.
Bobby Bones
He says tails. It is tails. It's the back of the buffalo. Do you want to go first or second? Okay, Kevin, if you'll leave the room, you can.
Reed
Good luck.
Bobby Bones
Pop into my office.
Kevin
Okay.
Bobby Bones
You just can't watch a screen.
Reed
Oh, man.
Bobby Bones
So we're gonna put two minutes upon the clock. Mike, do we have any music? Let's see. And read. Once you pull it out, please let us know what it is.
Reed
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Casey will be sitting over there with you, and if the nose lights up, you must drop it again.
Reed
Okay, Copy that.
Bobby Bones
I think, too, if it lights up, you have to drop it and wait three seconds. Oh, that's until we say go back.
Reed
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Sit there. If it lights up, tell him to drop it.
Eddie
You hear that, Casey?
Bobby Bones
Yep. Reed, are you ready?
Reed
I'm ready.
Bobby Bones
Two minutes on the clock. Go. Ready to go for the bottom. What'd you got there?
Daryl Johnston
Got a rubber band.
Bobby Bones
Rubber band off the leg. Okay, good. There's one.
Reed
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
Casey, put that microphone near his face. Shaking, wow. What'd you get there? Read another one.
Reed
That is a. I don't even know what kind of bone.
Eddie
It's a wrench or something.
Bobby Bones
Okay, do you need Casey to move so you can see Eddie?
Eddie
We're good.
Bobby Bones
Okay, do your other hand, Casey, so it's not in front of the camera. 30 seconds down. What's that?
Reed
It's a humorous. I don't know.
Bobby Bones
All this was tough. Oh no, I dropped it. Oh, it lit up. Drop it. I saw it light up.
Eddie
Don't.
Reed
That one's locked away.
Bobby Bones
Two, three, Back in. Lit up again. Three seconds. One, two, three. Back in. What are you going for over there? He's going for a rib. He got it. Successful.
Daryl Johnston
He got the ribbon.
Bobby Bones
How many parts do you have? Right now we got four parts.
Eddie
Wow. Good job. Up, drop.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I touched. One, two, three. Back in. Minute 15 down.
Eddie
Oh God, he dropped the piece. He got it.
Bobby Bones
What is that?
Eddie
Looks like the funny bone.
Reed
God.
Bobby Bones
30 seconds left. One, two.
Reed
These are going to be tough.
Bobby Bones
Three back in.
Eddie
Come on, read, focus.
Bobby Bones
God, these are impossible. He keeps putting in and pulling out.
Eddie
That's the trick.
Bobby Bones
That's the trick. He has 15 seconds left. He's going for the butterfly. Six seconds.
Eddie
Okay, you got that one.
Bobby Bones
Oh, good job. Three, two, time.
Eddie
What'd you give? You gave up with two seconds left.
Reed
I'm happy with that. I'm happy. Well, I hit it, so I was gonna wait three seconds.
Bobby Bones
So it's like the runoff of the clock. Hit, run off. 10 seconds. Casey, what does he have down there?
Eddie
We got six pieces here. We got some tooth thing. What is this, a. A rib bone?
Reed
Okay, yeah, it looks like a ribbon.
Eddie
Like a rib bone. We got a funny bone.
Reed
What is the butterfly?
Eddie
A wrench of some. So here. I mean guys, it's a butterfly.
Bobby Bones
Butterfly's probably in the stomach cuz you're.
Eddie
Nervous and some kind of hamstring.
Bobby Bones
So six pieces, six total.
Eddie
Okay, good job, guys.
Bobby Bones
Casey, if you'll put them back in, I will read you.
Daryl Johnston
Good.
Reed
Because all those other ones are like tucked away. They're impossible.
Eddie
Hey, six is pretty good. I'd say.
Bobby Bones
You can retire to the other room. Read.
Reed
My hand was so like, dude, you were shaking. I know, it was like I was not shaking beforehand. And then when I go to this, I'm just like, think.
Eddie
Think about what a real surgeon has to go through.
Bobby Bones
Oh, no chance man, do they drink coffee?
Reed
They probably, like, do surgery for super bowl tickets, huh?
Eddie
No, let's just do it.
Bobby Bones
Try to buy their own. Yeah, they try to buy their own. Okay. All right, I'm out of here we go. Let's bring Kevin in. He does not know the rules yet. Is Casey good for the camera? Is he fine sitting there?
Eddie
It's good. We made it work.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Daryl Johnston
All right.
Bobby Bones
Come on in, Kevin. Casey's coming.
Eddie
Can you move the game back where it was, though?
Bobby Bones
Don't tell him how many Reed got.
Eddie
I won't say a word, man. Good thing Casey's there, because I didn't even hear the vibrating.
Bobby Bones
I see the nose light up is what I saw. All right, Kevin, we're not gonna tell you how many Reed got. You're gonna have two minutes on the clock, and you're gonna pull out as many as you possibly can. And please describe it as you're going, like, what you're going for. If it lights up, you have to release for three seconds before you can go back in.
Kevin
Okay?
Eddie
Kevin, have you ever played this game before?
Kevin
Yes, in my lifetime? Yes.
Eddie
Okay.
Kevin
In the last 20 years. No.
Eddie
Got it.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Tell us when you're ready, and I'll start the clock. And on your cue, when you grab the tweezers, we go.
Daryl Johnston
You could put the mic.
Bobby Bones
And here he goes. And he's on. Clock has started. He's going for something in the middle. Light up. One, two, three. Three, go back in. He's going into, like, the stomach. Oh, he's. He's moving on from the stomach.
Eddie
I mean, his first dig was a red light, so that's not good. Not a good story.
Bobby Bones
He's in one of the easier ones now.
Eddie
That may be like, oh, you're hurting the patient.
Bobby Bones
Two, three, back in. Patient better be on a lot of anesthesia. He's in.
Eddie
He got.
Daryl Johnston
He got it.
Eddie
He got the funny bone. That's a clean fit.
Kevin
Funny bone.
Bobby Bones
The funny bone is out. 38 seconds down. What's he at now?
Eddie
He's going for the wrench.
Bobby Bones
The wrench down at the ankle.
Eddie
Why would the up let up?
Bobby Bones
Red. Red. Drop it, Bones.
Eddie
Why would the wrench have an ankle?
Bobby Bones
Have a wrench. Three. I don't know. Wrenching your ankle. I don't know. I can't even see it.
Daryl Johnston
Okay, clear.
Bobby Bones
Got the wrench out of the ankle.
Eddie
That's two.
Bobby Bones
Yep. There's one minute left. What's he aiming for now? Over there?
Eddie
We're going for the hamstring.
Bobby Bones
Oh, the old rubber band down in the leg.
Eddie
That should be easy.
Daryl Johnston
Okay, hamstring secured.
Eddie
Good job.
Bobby Bones
Got it. Three down, 45 seconds left.
Eddie
I don't want to jinx it, but he hasn't buzzed right when I said it.
Kevin
Thanks, Eddie.
Bobby Bones
And time. Go back in. You like to announce it? That says the kicker hasn't missed.
Kevin
Butterfly.
Daryl Johnston
Okay, butterfly.
Bobby Bones
Got the butterfly.
Eddie
That was clean.
Bobby Bones
26 seconds left. Red. 1, 2, 3. Back in.
Eddie
Oh, no.
Bobby Bones
Red, 2, 3, back in. Oh, he's changing up. He's changing up.
Eddie
He went for the bread basket. Smart.
Bobby Bones
There's 10 seconds left.
Eddie
No one stops.
Bobby Bones
He's going back. He's going back. Oh, red one.
Eddie
Kevin, leave that.
Bobby Bones
One, two, three. Back in. Red again. One, two, time.
Eddie
I think his stubbornness got him on that.
Bobby Bones
No, these are all, like, underneath time. And before we bring Reed back in, don't let him know how many did I mean to get there.
Daryl Johnston
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Total, we got five pieces here at the butterfly.
Eddie
The bread, the wrench, the funny bone, and the hamstring. Right.
Bobby Bones
If you guys don't mind going back to your seats, thank you very much.
Eddie
How was that, Kevin?
Kevin
Sucked.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I was shaken because the game's harder because you're nervous. Both.
Kevin
And some are obviously a little bit harder than others, and I learned that the hard way.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you knew that, though, from the history of the game, right?
Kevin
Like, honestly, I have not thought about this game in a long time.
Bobby Bones
You didn't Google anything while in my office waiting, huh?
Kevin
No, cuz I did that for Connect 4 and I did nothing for me.
Eddie
Is that what you would do, Bones? Google about it?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. What's the easiest hardest one for? Yeah, Come on in, Reed.
Daryl Johnston
All right.
Bobby Bones
They don't know who's got what. Okay. Someone unlocked the door. I guess Reed's locked out. I was wondering why he was not coming in. Well, we talked for a while. Told a lot of your secrets.
Kevin
Oh, man.
Bobby Bones
Well, without saying how many each of you have, I will say that it was a very close race. It was not a tie.
Daryl Johnston
Very close.
Eddie
There was a winner and a loser.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Daryl Johnston
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Because what would have sucked was it had been a tie. We have to do it again. The winner. Reed, do you feel like you won?
Reed
I have no confidence. I'm gonna be honest. I don't think I won.
Bobby Bones
So you think with your number, which we're not saying. You don't think it was enough?
Reed
I don't think it was.
Bobby Bones
Kevin, what about you?
Kevin
No, I don't feel good about it at all. It took me a while to get going. I started Getting going.
Reed
Some of those are, like, just pushed away. It's impossible.
Kevin
That's what. What I was struggling with. And then my ego got in the way, where I was like, I can get it. And I didn't.
Eddie
Right.
Reed
Oh, I thought you were gonna say you did.
Kevin
No, no. That's the hard part.
Bobby Bones
The winner had a total of six.
Kevin
I knew it. Son of.
Bobby Bones
Reed, you're up one to zero.
Reed
Sorry, dude. Reed, I'm so sorry.
Eddie
Why are you apologizing?
Bobby Bones
I just.
Reed
I just feel bad, man.
Kevin
Why?
Reed
Because we all deserve it.
Eddie
No, no. When I beat Kevin, I don't apologize.
Bobby Bones
I don't anybody deserves it.
Reed
That's fair.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, nobody deserves.
Eddie
That's a good point.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Reed
Yeah. He's best out of three, though, so, I mean, I got a long ways to go.
Bobby Bones
Well, not near as far as he does. You gotta hike up the full mountain. Kevin, your thoughts? Let's go talk to the losing coach outside the locker room.
Eddie
This is terrible.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
I didn't feel great playing it. I didn't feel great afterwards, and I still don't feel great. But I still have a chance. And until I'm completely out, I'm coming for you, Reed.
Reed
There you go.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Kevin
And I still have the confidence. And now I know I got to come up with some type of strategy and looking forward to Monday.
Bobby Bones
You don't know Anyone know what the game.
Kevin
Oh, we're not playing Operation again. Two more different games or, like. Because if I win, then we get another shot.
Bobby Bones
That's correct.
Kevin
So is it gonna be two different games?
Bobby Bones
You think I'm gonna tell you that here?
Kevin
I mean, just like a little sprinkle of something.
Bobby Bones
So we'll play the other games on Monday. Show games. Yeah, games want to be games. Even if it's the same game twice. That's plural.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
It could be a version of real life Operation, and it's like.
Eddie
It's like the SAT Man. Like, you can go to the store and buy every single game you want. Practice.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, do that. Go buy some games.
Eddie
Let me do a bunch of games.
Bobby Bones
How do you feel right now, though, knowing that you're one loss away from not getting in?
Kevin
Yeah, I feel pretty crappy.
Bobby Bones
Yeah?
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
I don't feel great at all. I feel pretty disappointed. I feel like I'm disappointed my family right now.
Bobby Bones
So are they listening and rooting?
Kevin
Yeah. Yeah. My mom even texted me this morning. Good luck.
Eddie
Oh, have you talked. Have you told your dad about all this?
Kevin
Yeah, he knows.
Bobby Bones
Did you tell him you're already going to the super bowl then.
Kevin
No, no, no, no. I, I, I, I prefaced it with, you know, we got to play for the tickets so.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but you only had to not be the one worst.
Kevin
I know. And I don't like, I don't even know if it's a Super bowl tickets that I hate the most. I think it's the fact that I'm just keep losing that I hate the most.
Eddie
That's not anything, that's not true. It's the super bowl that you're not going to like. That's a, that's a bigger deal than losing two little games.
Kevin
But like continue to lose and lose and if I don't win one game, if I don't beat Reed at least one time, I'm going to be pissed at myself for letting that happen.
Bobby Bones
Well, Monday we'll have it all ironed out.
Reed
How many, how many did he get?
Bobby Bones
5. Oh, he just kept going for the same one over and over again. He got stuck.
Reed
I had to learn and I was like, if I couldn't get it, I had to move on.
Bobby Bones
Reed, congratulations.
Reed
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
You're one step closer to having a Super bowl ticket.
Eddie
Good job, Reed.
Reed
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
The 11 year old kid who landed the Paul Skeens one of one rookie patch card, which this was forever. They were like, if anybody finds it. The Pirates had offered, if you found this card, a pair of Pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years, a meet and greet with Paul Skeens, two signed Skeens jerseys, a Pirates game with Libby Dunn and her suite and much more. So if you found the card, you could turn it in for all that and you got to play on the field like a softball game on the Pirates field. And the kid was like, now we're.
Eddie
Good because what's the card worth?
Bobby Bones
They're going to auction it off. I would imagine at least a few hundred thousand dollars.
Eddie
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Like would you rather have a few hundred thousand dollars or. But you live in Pittsburgh, right?
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
A pair of Pirates sees the tickets, meet and greet jerseys, sit in her suite. I would rather have the money.
Eddie
I think I'm taking the money.
Bobby Bones
And you could also just hold it. But then you really need Paul Skeens to continue to play well and usually in the card market there's a heavy pop first and even if they maintain it's hard for them to stay at that big highest mark of the stock market, which is where he's at right now after winning rookie of the year.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So 11 year old found it and just a Pack.
Eddie
Wow.
Bobby Bones
And it was a redemption card, so it wasn't even a card. It's, hey, you got this. You won this. Mail it off.
Eddie
Well, that's cool.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. And if you're the kid's parents, what are you gonna do? How much of it do you give him, Eddie? Your kid wins it.
Eddie
I would say let's sell it. And then we're gonna save half of it for your college funds or whatever.
Bobby Bones
Your future, what's gonna be taxed. So let's just say it's 200,000. Yes. We're saying it's 300. We're making up a number. There's $200,000 cash. Now that you have. Go ahead. What are you doing with you and your kid? Your kids? If he's 11?
Eddie
How much do I have in my hand?
Bobby Bones
200,000.
Eddie
200 after taxes. We're saving at a hundred thousand. And then you're gonna give me and your mom 50,000 because they're just gonna.
Bobby Bones
Give it to parent taxes.
Eddie
Parent tax.
Bobby Bones
That's not a real thing. They can sue you later in life.
Daryl Johnston
No, no, no, no.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Eddie
No, no, no. This is a parent tax. It's just our stuff. And then now you have 50 grand to do whatever you want with.
Bobby Bones
You're going to give a kid $50,000, just say go.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
You're not going to like spread it out like you get 100 bucks a week?
Eddie
No, because he's already got the 100,000 for his future, man. He gets to go to college.
Bobby Bones
You're going to give an 11 year old kid just straight up 50k?
Eddie
What do you think he could do with 50k?
Bobby Bones
Candy?
Eddie
Yeah. Ice cream every day.
Bobby Bones
Shoes.
Kevin
You don't have enough room in your house for 50k of stuff.
Bobby Bones
For what a kid would.
Kevin
Yeah, exactly.
Eddie
I have to be like, hey, no, we're not buying.
Bobby Bones
Because it's not like he's going to buy Bob Ross painting and invest in a Paint 1 painting for $40,000.
Eddie
You might buy a drum set, you.
Bobby Bones
Know, like, well, here we are. I hope everybody has a good weekend. Thanks to Daryl Johnston for coming on.
Eddie
That was awesome.
Bobby Bones
Thank you to Reed for letting us see a Victor.
Reed
Oh, thank you, guys.
Bobby Bones
Thank you to Kevin for letting us see someone lose again.
Eddie
That was cool.
Bobby Bones
Luckily, that wasn't the game that ended at all.
Kevin
I know.
Bobby Bones
Because it very well.
Kevin
But there will be one.
Bobby Bones
What do you mean there will be.
Kevin
One to end it all.
Eddie
Yes, yes, yes. There will.
Bobby Bones
Monday show, I guess. Unless you die.
Eddie
So we play two On Monday. Yeah, if.
Bobby Bones
If Kevin wins, we will play another. We'll play a third tiebreaker game.
Eddie
And is it going to be a traditional game or can we go to, like, arm wrestling?
Bobby Bones
I don't want to put where anyone has an advantage already.
Eddie
There's no advantage to arm wrestling with these two.
Bobby Bones
I mean, sure there is.
Eddie
Reed's been hitting the gym.
Bobby Bones
It'd be like doing sprints or nothing physical because there'd be an advantage. You know, I don't want even do sports trivia. Reed doesn't claim to know sports.
Eddie
True.
Bobby Bones
So we found games like this. How's your arm, by the way?
Eddie
Oh, better, dude.
Daryl Johnston
Better.
Eddie
Like, a lot better. I don't know if I'm just like super healer over here, but I'm able to move my arm like I would say 50% more than I did at when I had when I fell. And there's. And there's no pain.
Bobby Bones
What's up?
Kevin
It's convenient because. Because I think by this time next week when we're in New Orleans, he might even be out of that sling.
Bobby Bones
But how did that help him?
Eddie
He thinks I'm faking the whole thing to get out of the hundred pound ball.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Oh, that was a challenge.
Eddie
No, not the case. And that's the thing. I don't even know, like, when I'll be able to carry anything because, I mean, dude, what did the doctor say?
Bobby Bones
How long?
Eddie
He just said we'll talk about anything you can do, like, physically, like working out after his second visit. So that's in. That's after we get back from Super Bowl.
Bobby Bones
Did you tell him you're going Super Bowl?
Eddie
No, No, I didn't tell him no, because that's when I didn't know I was going. I really didn't want to tell people I might go to the Super Bowl.
Bobby Bones
That's pretty cool. Okay, well, then we will see you guys next week. I got nothing else to say. Good luck to everybody. Hope you have a good weekend. Kevin's gonna stew. He's already upset.
Eddie
Hang in there.
Kevin
Yeah.
Eddie
Kevin Reed, thank you for the entertainment.
Kevin
Oh, you're welcome. Was it entertaining for you?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, most just to see the joy and the sadness on the face. Because other than the cameras that we had set up, we can't really watch it back until we watch it back on Instagram.
Kevin
You know, we're gonna post this one too.
Bobby Bones
Of course. Of course. Are we not just making sure? Afraid to lose again? All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. Follow at Bobby Bonesports on Instagram. And YouTube. And we will see you guys on Monday. And what a day that will be. Somebody will not be going to the super. Yes, that's it. All right, Eddie, blow us out. All right, see you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram @bobbybonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host, producereddy, segment producer Ickoffkevin, video producer Eadyarberry, and executive producer at Ed Mike Distro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 WHISTLES. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show Episode 25W: Kickoff Kevin & Reid Operate for the Final Super Bowl Ticket! + 3x Super Bowl Champion Daryl Johnston Release Date: January 31, 2025
In this electrifying episode of The Bobby Bones Show, host Bobby Bones engages listeners with a blend of competitive fun and insightful conversation. The episode prominently features a thrilling contest between regulars Kevin and Reed, vying for the coveted Super Bowl ticket, alongside an exclusive interview with three-time Super Bowl champion Daryl Johnston.
[02:35] Bobby Bones kicks off the segment by introducing an exciting game of Operation, where Kevin and Reed battle it out to win the final Super Bowl ticket. The rules are simple yet nerve-wracking: players must carefully remove pieces from the Operation game without setting off the buzzer.
Throughout the game, tension mounts as both participants struggle to maintain steady hands. Noteworthy moments include Reed successfully removing a "ribbon" and Kevin grappling with a "funny bone," demonstrating the high stakes and playful rivalry.
By the end of the game, Reed emerges victorious with five successful removals, edging out Kevin in a nail-biting finish.
The episode's highlight is an in-depth interview with Daryl Johnston, a revered three-time Super Bowl champion and now the Executive Vice President of Football Operations for the UFL.
Daryl shares his journey from a versatile high school athlete to a celebrated professional player, emphasizing his adaptability on the field.
Daryl reminisces about his Super Bowl experiences, particularly the challenging one-week preparation period for Super Bowl XXVII.
He praises the current NFL structure, particularly the Kansas City Chiefs' pursuit of a historic three-peat, attributing their success to strategic leadership and adaptability.
Daryl discusses his role in establishing the UFL headquarters and fostering a cooperative relationship with the NFL.
He highlights the UFL's efforts to consolidate team operations for efficiency and enhanced collaboration.
Reflecting on his executive position, Daryl expresses profound satisfaction in influencing players' careers positively.
Bobby Bones and the crew delve into the relevance and future of the Pro Bowl amidst players opting out due to playoff schedules and personal incentives.
Kevin: "At what point do we just get rid of the Pro Bowl? It’s getting less meaningful with players like Drake May being named."
Bobby Bones: "The Pro Bowl is just a weird thing anyway. It should just be an awards banquet."
They debate whether the Pro Bowl still holds value in the modern NFL landscape, considering the declining player participation and its positioning in the season.
Transitioning to a lighter topic, the hosts share their evolving Super Bowl party experiences, reflecting personal growth and changing family dynamics.
Eddie: "Now it's like an experience for my kids... we have family-friendly activities like bingo cards."
Bobby Bones: "We're not doing it this year because we're going to be there."
They contrast their past indulgent gatherings with more structured, family-oriented celebrations, highlighting the shift from personal enjoyment to creating memorable experiences for their children.
As the episode wraps up, Bobby Bones teases upcoming segments and future episodes, ensuring listeners remain engaged and anticipate more exciting content.
He also encourages audience interaction and participation, maintaining the show's dynamic and listener-focused approach.
Episode 25W of The Bobby Bones Show masterfully blends competitive excitement with meaningful dialogue, offering listeners both entertainment and valuable insights into professional football dynamics. The engaging game of Operation sets a lively tone, while Daryl Johnston's candid interview provides depth and expert perspectives on the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl, and the burgeoning UFL.
Whether you're a die-hard football fan or a casual listener, this episode delivers a compelling mix of fun and expertise, encapsulating why The Bobby Bones Show remains a favorite in sports broadcasting.
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