25W: LIVE from San Francisco for Super Bowl 60 Radio Row Day 1: WWE Legend Seth Rollins + Former NFL MVP Shaun Alexander + HoF DB Rod Woodson + Former NFL QB Ryan Fitzpatrick

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – 25W: LIVE from San Francisco for Super Bowl 60 Radio Row Day 1

Date: February 6, 2026
Episode Theme:
Bobby Bones and the 25 Whistles crew broadcast live from San Francisco’s Super Bowl 60 Radio Row, sharing behind-the-scenes experiences, city impressions, and conducting interviews with major sports and entertainment figures—Seth Rollins (WWE), Shaun Alexander (NFL MVP), Rod Woodson (NFL Hall of Famer), and Ryan Fitzpatrick (NFL QB/analyst). The episode mixes personal stories, radio row celebrity run-ins, sports talk, and candid athlete insights, all with the signature 25 Whistles banter and humor.

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1. Opening – San Francisco & Super Bowl Atmosphere

[01:24–08:55]

• Broadcast Setting:
  The team records from their hotel room, joking about not using actual whistles (“we’ll get kicked out”). The segment sets a light, conversational tone.

• San Francisco Vibes:

  • Eddie shares childhood memories of a family train trip to LA and a coastal drive to San Francisco. The group raves about the city’s unique blend of “New York City meets ocean,” the hilly landscape, and famous sites like Alcatraz.
  • Alcatraz lore is discussed, with Bobby questioning if he could swim to shore. Cold water and strong currents are revealed as real obstacles—not sharks, per ChatGPT’s explanation.
  • The group recounts struggling up San Francisco hills with luggage.

• Food Adventures:

  • Bobby recounts an attempt to eat at a highly-rated seafood spot, but his dairy allergy prevents enjoying “everything with butter.” The group leaves in solidarity.
  • On restaurant authenticity: “If you’re near the ocean, just get some Starkist tuna out—convince people it’s fresh!” – Bobby ([07:08])

• Wrestling Talk:
  Bobby wishes Eddie’s kids enjoyed wrestling, discussing the importance of following storylines for true enjoyment and warming up for the Seth Rollins interview.

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2. Interview: Seth Rollins (WWE Legend)

[12:48–20:12]

Key Topics:

• Recovery & Wellness on the Road:
  Seth prefers traditional sauna over red light therapy for “proven results for longevity.” Finds it hard to work out on the road, but adapts by finding gyms in frequent tour cities.

• Commentating Netflix’s “Skyscraper Live”:
  Rollins describes the nerves and responsibility calling Alex Honnold’s live building climb:

  • “If he slips, he’s dead… but you don’t want to broadcast it like it’s funeral TV. Balance gravity with entertainment.” ([15:02])
  • Details lack of playbook for live, dangerous events and unique challenges for the commentary team.

• Wrestling—Maintaining Kayfabe:
  Rollins explains discomfort with Netflix’s Unreal docuseries:

  • “I can’t watch it. It makes me feel dirty… sharing behind the scenes, the industry’s ins and outs—I’m just not totally comfortable with that.” ([18:12])
  • Emphasizes protecting secrets and “the wall” in wrestling tradition.

• WrestleMania in Vegas:
  Praises Las Vegas as built for large sports events. Loves “not having to babysit” friends/family because the city offers entertainment for everyone.

Notable Quote:

• “Audience can take a promo in a different direction… anything can happen on a WWE broadcast.” – Seth Rollins ([15:39])

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3. Super Bowl Parlay Talk

[20:13–22:46]

• The team discusses their Super Bowl 60 betting picks: Patriots +4.5, specific QB passing yards, and other player props.
• “The best we can do is be minus $4200!” – Bobby on the ‘buy a team league’ ([20:37])
• DraftKings plug: Betting and prize details (skip ad content).

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4. Interview: Shaun Alexander (Former NFL MVP, Seahawks Legend)

[24:12–32:51]

Highlights:

• Seahawks’ Transformation:
  Discusses Seattle’s evolution from underdog franchise to regular Super Bowl contender and credits current coach Mike Macdonald’s fusion of Holmgren and Carroll philosophies.

• Fantasy Football’s Impact:
  Alexander recalls the shift in fan interactions due to fantasy football:

  • “I started hearing people clap [at away games]… There’s this thing called fantasy football… fans are picking you because you score so many touchdowns.” ([26:48])

• Reflections on NFL Life:

  • What he misses: teammate camaraderie, “the calamity of players becoming men together,” and the journey to greatness.
  • Sam Darnold praised as “comfortable in his own skin” and a true team-first leader.
  • On touchdowns: “I craved the touchdowns… making the whole stadium say the game just shifted. I wanted to dominate the red zone.” ([28:53])

• Personal Growth and Philanthropy:
  Shares his current work as ambassador for Stand Together—mobilizing athletes/influencers to amplify community philanthropy.

Notable Quote:

• “Let that star shine, and let’s find the rest of the people who can do the work for you.” – Shaun Alexander ([32:43])

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5. Radio Row: Celebrity Sightings & Vibe

[33:04–36:21]

• The crew swaps stories of spotting sports icons (CD Lamb, Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, Martha Stewart, Jerry Rice, Marcus Allen, Matt Ryan, Joe Milton).
• Reflections on athlete presence—“mostly famous athletes… you can just tell, usually bigger people or more jewelry.” – Bobby ([34:20])
• On fan etiquette: Navigating the line between professionalism and wanting selfies with celebrities.

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6. Interview: Rod Woodson (NFL Hall of Famer, Steelers, Ravens)

[36:48–46:42]

Insights:

• Position Evolution:
  Woodson recounts switching from safety (his original position from grade school through college) to cornerback in the NFL—despite his reluctance.

  • “I didn’t know what I was doing out there… Luckily I had Tony Dungy.” ([37:36])
  • Returning to safety at the end felt like “coming home.” ([38:55])

• Cornerback—Hardest Position:
  “If you give up one touchdown, you’re the worst guy ever… While a quarterback can throw three picks and be the hero.” ([39:18])

• Pass Interference Rules Evolution:
  Shares history of the five-yard chuck rule and advocates for “let the DBs play, let the receivers play. If it’s egregious, call it.” ([41:19])

• Return Game Nerves:
  On being a return man: “You have to have that no fear factor… make catches when you probably shouldn’t.” ([41:34])

• Super Bowl Highs and Lows:
  “The lows last a lot longer than the highs… The one time we won, it lasted about 48 hours for me, then, hey, let’s get back to it.” ([43:05])

• Fentanyl Awareness & Advocacy:
  Discusses his work with NFL Alumni Health and the DEA on fentanyl awareness after personal family experiences—“2 millimeters can kill you… Fentanyl doesn’t discriminate.” ([43:47])

Notable Quote:

• “I’d rather be a ‘has-been’ than a ‘never was.’” – Rod Woodson ([36:59])

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7. Interview: Ryan Fitzpatrick (Retired NFL QB, Amazon NFL Analyst)

[48:32–56:27]

Topics:

• Quarterbacks in the Super Bowl:
  Fitzpatrick compares Drake May’s youth and leadership development with Sam Darnold’s “scar tissue” and adaptability. Praises both QBs for distinct strengths.

• Physical Fitness Post-Retirement:

  • “You’re still jacked, man!” jokes Eddie.
  • Fitzpatrick: “I want to represent for all the dad bods out there… don’t want to get too fit.” ([49:41])

• NFL Career Health:
  Fitzpatrick lucky to avoid major injuries in 17 seasons.

• Super Bowl Coaching Experience:
  Discusses the challenge of managing media and halftime chaos, and how playing experience (like Mike Vrabel’s) aids coaching.

• Favorite City and Team:
  Loves Buffalo for team spirit, Tampa and New Jersey for life quality. Seven kids, all born in different states.

• Drake May’s Shoulder:
  “If there’s pain, they’ll make him feel great for 60 minutes.” Not worried about the injury narrative. ([52:24])

• TV Analyst Life:
  Loves TV for teamwork, fun, fan engagement—especially postgame crowd chaos and the running gag of taking his shirt off (“peer pressure every Thursday night”).

  • Shares a funny story about embarrassing his high-school daughter with on-air antics.

• On Andrew Whitworth:
  Marvels at teammate’s massive, athletic build—“People like Whitworth were put on this earth to play professional sports.”

• Vacation:
  Recounts a much-needed Aruba trip with wife.

Notable Quote:

• “There were people put on this earth to play professional sports. I was not one of them… but Andrew Whitworth was.” – Ryan Fitzpatrick ([55:23])

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8. Wrap-Up & Closing Banter

[56:27–59:04]

• Bobby preps for trivia among celebrities (Adam Devine, Boston Rob), musing about celebrity pecking order.
• Mischievous story about nearly being denied entry to the Barstool sports podcast show.
• More athlete sighting rundown (Trevor Lawrence: “tall, thin, big dude”; Christian McCaffrey: “jacked, but not Fitzpatrick shape”).
• Final jokes about heading back to the hotel and “nap” routines.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Alcatraz Myth Busting:
  “My friend keeps saying sharks… but it’s really the cold and currents doing most of the work.” – ChatGPT ([06:02])

• On Fantasy Football’s Impact on Fan Interactions:
  “There’s this thing now… called fantasy football… fans are picking you because you score so many touchdowns.” – Shaun Alexander ([26:48])

• On Sharing Wrestling Secrets:
  “I can’t watch [Unreal]. It makes me feel dirty… sharing behind the scenes… I’m just not totally comfortable with that.” – Seth Rollins ([18:12])

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Timestamps for Interviews

• Seth Rollins: [12:48–20:12]
• Shaun Alexander: [24:12–32:51]
• Rod Woodson: [36:48–46:42]
• Ryan Fitzpatrick: [48:32–56:27]

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Overall Tone & Vibe

The episode is lively, authentic, and irreverent—with lots of personal stories, playful teasing, and genuine admiration for their guests. The 25 Whistles crew’s sports fan humor and curiosity drive engaging long-form conversations, making the excitement of Super Bowl Radio Row accessible for listeners.

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Transcript

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[A]

This is a podcast called 25 whistles. Talking football. And they all wear a whistle. Yet Stupid it. But what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. We have no whistle because we're in a hotel room and if we whistle, we'll probably get kicked out of the hotel room. But this is 25 whistle. Here we go. Not bad, huh?

[C]

Pretty good.

[D]

Not bad.

[A]

I'm currently laying in the bed. I can't see Eddie or Kevin.

[D]

No, you're looking up at the ceiling.

[E]

That's.

[A]

I'm saying I can't see you guys laying in bed. This is Eddy City, San Francisco.

[D]

Dude, I love this city. I haven't been here since I was probably 14 years old. My family, we took a trip. We flew to. No, no, no. We took a train from San Antonio to la.

[A]

A train?

[D]

A train. An Amtrak.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

It was a long way.

[A]

Dude, it was awesome. That sounds. My dream, like, is to go on a train where you sleep.

[D]

It was so freaking cool.

[A]

Did you guys sleep on the train? Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah. We had, like, a little room.

[A]

Dude, that's awesome.

[D]

And then we. We got to la, and then we rented a car in la. I think we spent like, two days in LA and then drove the coast all the way to San Francisco.

[A]

Is that core memory for you?

[E]

Core.

[D]

Which. Which now as a parent, I'm like, ah, dude. I'm almost tempted to just take away Christmas presents and just do trips because.

[A]

Like, well, trips are such good memories. You know what a core memory would be, though? Not getting Christmas presents in a bad way. Yeah, I think that would also not be so. Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying. Like, the value of those trips to you as you're older means so much more than those gifts.

[D]

You don't forget those memories.

[A]

But it's like micro versus macro. Because as a kid, if you didn't get Christmas presents for that day and that week, it felt like, this sucks. Yeah, but.

[D]

But what this trip has reminded me of is, like, I want to bring the family here now to San Francisco.

[A]

Or just go on trip.

[D]

San Francisco. This place is awesome. Do you hear the bell?

[C]

You can hear it, dude.

[D]

That is the.

[A]

I just think of rice. A Roni. Yes.

[D]

San Francisco treat.

[A]

I have been out here once in the last few years. Twice in the past five or six years. Oakland doesn't count.

[D]

No, no, no, no. That's on the other side of the bridge.

[A]

Yeah, I've been to Oakland. We flew into Oakland last night. It's just hard to get a place to the airport to fly into when you come into the Super Bowl. I mean, how do you get a flight? Yeah. So we are here for the super bowl, obviously, but we're not staying for the game. So most people want to say, I'm going to San Francisco for the Super Bowl. They're like, oh, cool.

[D]

And just leave it there, though, don't you?

[A]

Don't say anything else. Then I have to talk to you about the game. And I'm like, I'm not really going to the game. We came out for the days to do interviews. You're going to hear some of them. But Eddie just goes on and on about how he loves the city so much.

[D]

There's so many things. Like, it almost feels like New York City. Like, with all the buildings and the foot traffic, but at the same time, like, you're right by the ocean.

[A]

The hills are.

[D]

They're. They're a beast. Terrible.

[C]

Brutal.

[A]

If we had more time, I'd want to go on an Alcatraz tour. And I don't do tours. I'm not a guy who doesn't do tours, but I usually don't find time to go do a tour. But it's super cool. I've been by it on a boat before.

[D]

So when you were shooting breaking bobby bones, you went by, like, pretty close. Yeah.

[A]

Like, you have to go buy it to get the way we went. It's super. It was neat. I thought I could swim it, honestly, because it didn't look that far. But I think part of. Part of the problem with it is the currents and the cold.

[D]

They say sharks too.

[A]

Okay. But I think mostly it's a current and the cold. Like, I wonder if I asked Chat GPT, but I thought just by looking at it, I could swim it, but I really couldn't tell about the currents of the cold.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

But it was cool. I'd like to go take a boat over there and, like, walk around.

[D]

So do you think those guys made it?

[A]

Yeah, if they didn't get eaten by shark.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Let me ask Chat GBT here. But that would be fun to do that. We just walked up the hills, and I thought Brandon and Kevin were gonna die. You guys had bags, Heavy bags.

[C]

Yeah. It was brutal.

[D]

Brandon's still not okay.

[C]

Brandon's. Yep. He's shaking his head.

[A]

All right, here we go.

[C]

Cherry red.

[A]

Hey, why is it that people can't get off of Alcatraz if they try to swim? What are the elements that keep them from doing it?

[G]

Well, Alcatraz is smack in the middle of Chile, San Francisco Bay. So first off, the water temperature can get really cold, often in the low 50s Fahrenheit. That's no joke for hypothermia risk. Then you've got the notorious currents, which are strong and can pull you away from your destination. Add on the fact that it's a long swim, over a mile, and historically, it was heavily patrolled, making escape nearly impossible. So it's basically a combo of cold water, tricky tides, and sheer distance.

[A]

One of my friends keeps saying sharks. Is there anything to that?

[G]

There are indeed sharks in the bay, but they're mostly smaller bottom dwellers, not the big, scary Hollywood type. Great whites prefer the open ocean, so the threat of a shark attack near Alcatraz is more myth than reality. In other words, sharks aren't what's keeping folks from escaping. It's the cold and currents doing most of the work.

[D]

Got it? Yeah, Loud and clear.

[A]

I believed you, though.

[D]

I should stop saying that.

[A]

Then you were convincing me, because I said, I think it's the cold water and the currents, and you're like, sharks. Like, you know what? Maybe I'm wrong on that one.

[C]

Saw a movie one time there were.

[A]

Sharks in Alcatraz Yeah. No, we then were going to a really good looking seafood place. The food looks so good on it. And we're all in there. We just finished some interviews, which you'll hear some of them in a minute. And man, look good. They had lobster rolls. I love lobster rolls. I asked the guy, I said, hey, what can I get that doesn't have any dairy? Because I can't have dairy at all. And he goes, nothing. And I said, all right, that'll do it for me.

[D]

Because everything has butter, right?

[A]

Everything. That's what makes it so good.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And so I tell you guys, you guys can eat here, I'll go find something else.

[D]

We're not doing that.

[A]

And then I made everybody leave.

[D]

No, you didn't.

[B]

You did not.

[C]

No, we stick together.

[D]

You guys, you're like, you guys eat. And we're like, no, we're not doing it.

[A]

It looks so good.

[C]

It did.

[A]

I'm thinking about that lobster roll. We're gonna go back so fresh. But the trick that people could do here is you could have a restaurant and then just get some starkist tuna out and if you're near the ocean, convince people that it tastes good and fresh.

[D]

For sure. Yeah. But that got Subway in trouble. Dude, can't do that. Remember Subway was doing the.

[A]

Was. They weren't saying it was fresh. They were. They were saying it was tuna.

[C]

It wasn't.

[A]

It was.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

It just wasn't tuna at all.

[C]

I forgot about that.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Uh, so that's where we are in San Francisco. Walked up the hills, had a burger at a country bar. It was like a small country. I mean it really. And I don't use this term because it's not accurate to today, but it felt like a very country and western bar. Like.

[D]

Like from the 70s.

[A]

Yeah. Old school. And it looked like it had been there 100 years. And so we were talking to the server and she was like, no, I've been open for four weeks. We didn't open.

[D]

It could have fooled us.

[A]

So we did that. And I wish, Eddie, that you and your kids watched wrestling. You're prime to love wrestling. And you guys.

[D]

You think so? Yeah, I told you. I did take my. I took my kids to a wrestling match five or six years ago in Nashville. And they were like, they weren't into it.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not really about going if you're not into it. You have to be into it before you go because it's so much storyline based. Not be there and watch the people in person. If you follow the Stories. It's cooler to be there while the stories are developing. And it's all storyline. It's all character development. All storyline. You know, I. When I watched Royal Rumble with my wife and I told you guys, whenever. Alligator man. Or.

[C]

Oh, Lizard Liz. Iguana.

[A]

Iguana, man. Like, she's. When the stupidest thing happened, she started watching with me. It really is great. And I think you and all your boys would love it. But to get in now, I don't know, man.

[D]

Well, they're still young, so this would be, like, new to them. Like, completely new to them.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

But you can't really teach them it because you haven't been watching.

[D]

I don't know anything.

[A]

I know we're gonna play our interview with Seth Rollins. So I'll give you a little background on Seth Rollins, what just happened. And if you watch the show Unreal on Netflix, which. I love that show. It's behind the scenes. And he talks about it right on the interview. Yeah. Where he's like.

[C]

He didn't feel super comfortable sharing behind the background stuff.

[A]

Yep. Yeah. Because he's an old school wrestler and he's probably. Would you look up or. Yeah. His age. He's probably, I guess, like 37 or 38. So he still has a little bit of that old school as far as when he came up. And so Unreal is awesome. I love it because I'm 39. I know it's all a story, and fake is not really the word. If you say stuntmen, what they're doing is fake, then.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah. That's just based on. You thought it was real at one point.

[A]

Yeah. You thought the anger of the fight was real.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But what they're doing is so extremely athletic and risky in the ring. There's this one girl named Saul Ruka. If you watched her, you'd be nervous the whole time that she's gonna break her neck every time.

[F]

She did what?

[D]

She flip.

[A]

Oh, she. She was the. She did something like tumbling or gym gymnasting in Oregon. Oh, it's wild. So we're talking to Seth Rollins. So this is what happened last year. He did a match and he's. The guy that you talk to is probably one of the five biggest wrestlers.

[D]

Seth Rollins.

[A]

Yeah. He's probably top five or six in WWE men. He got into a match and he hurt his knee. Like, you saw him in the ring legitimately and grabbed it. Doctors came out and then he was out. And so is that real or. Well, people were, like, following him with cameras to try to prove it was fake, but he was on crutches and he was in a knee brace for two months or so. And it was all, CM Punk is like his rival. So then what happens at. I think it was probably SummerSlam or whatever the event was.

[D]

He.

[A]

Seth Rollins comes out. He's going to cash in the money in the bank, which means he won a match that he can try to win a championship at any point. But he had the crutches on, and he drops the crutches and throws the knee brace off. And it was all fake. Like, for months, he wouldn't even go out in public because he needed the public to believe that. The other wrestlers believed that. There was only a small group of people, and they talk about it on the show. Like they had to tell the medical staff because they would have stopped the match immediately. So they had a very select few people that they told. Some of the wrestlers, by the time the event happened, figured it out. But it was really cool because everybody believed it and nobody believes anything. Wow. Everything's, you know, a work.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So he comes out. CM Punk wins the title for the first time. Big deal. He just finishes the match. Seth Rollins comes out, cashes it in, beats him immediately because CM Punk just got. He won. But it was a brutal match and it's all an unreal. All of them telling him what the storyline is. His wife is in it. She's my favorite female wrestler, and she was kind of pissed because she had to keep up with the lie. He could just ignore everybody.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But everybody at school, all people are like, how's Seth? How Seth? And she's like, I'm a terrible liar.

[C]

That's hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

To live, like, everyday life with a lie.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Major lie.

[A]

For 45, 60 days or something.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

So we're talking to him here. And that's probably why I didn't watch the show, because a very integral part of the year was that fake storyline. And he doesn't like sharing the storyline. And then Eddie was smart enough to go, oh, yeah.

[B]

He.

[A]

He was commentating Alex Honnold's building climb, which I would have never thought of that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I would have just been like, how do you do a headlock?

[H]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, you were like, hey, you have any questions for him? Like, I. Nothing. Like, I don't watch.

[A]

What you'll hear is, it actually was probably the most entertaining part of the interview because we got to hear all about that.

[D]

Yeah, that was cool.

[A]

So here we go. This is us talking to Seth Rollins here at the Super Bowl. Here you Go enjoy. Seth's. Good to see you, man.

[H]

Good to see you guys.

[A]

Are you like a red light therapy guy? Sonic guy, sauna guy?

[H]

Love a sauna.

[A]

Like I met. What do you do after a match?

[H]

After a match, you ice.

[A]

Do you jump in an ice bath?

[H]

No, we don't have any of those, silly. We're in different buildings every single week.

[A]

They don't have like a.

[H]

And we don't own the building.

[A]

So like a portable, like touring artists tour with nothing.

[D]

No.

[A]

What do you have? We just bought a red light therapy bed. One of the ones you get in.

[H]

Yeah, like a tanning bed, but it's a red light.

[B]

Yeah.

[H]

That's aggressive.

[A]

It's.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

My wife loves it, believes in it. You use anything like that?

[H]

No, my wife also loves it, believes in it. She's got like a red light everything. Like literally anything that you can. She got this wand thing that she's like red lighting her face with. I am. Jury's out for me on the red light.

[A]

Same with me.

[H]

Sauna, however, like a dry, traditional sauna. Slap it at 185, 15 minutes. Like, sweat it out. Proven results for longevity.

[A]

It's one of the hardest things on the road. Finding somewhere to actually get a workout in when you're bouncing around. Or they have those built at every place. Like a.

[H]

No, they don't have gyms built in, but that's not too bad. And honestly, it was probably harder in the beginning, but once you go back to the same towns over and over, then you just like, you know, pop it in the. The GPS or whatever in the Google Maps and you're there.

[A]

You know, it's like touring. Because there are a lot of places when I would do stand up, they'd be like, man, wasn't that city great? It's like, dude, I went in the back of the building.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[H]

You don't see much. You don't see much. Honestly. You see like. Like, for example, I was just in Taipei for Skyscraper Live for Netflix and I spent three or four days there. And I had been to Taipei previously in 2015 for a show. I remember nothing about the city. Not a. I didn't remember what it looked like. Like the skyline with the Taipei 101, which is what Alex Honnold climbed. I don't even remember that building. You know what I mean? Like, I. So yes, I understand that pain, dude.

[D]

You all did a great job uncovering that. I thought, you know, just because you're watching just a dude.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Climb a building. Like, what do we talk about.

[I]

Yeah.

[H]

I mean, honestly, you know, what was the most difficult thing for me was balancing the entertainment aspect with the seriousness. Because, I mean, the dude, if he slips, he's dead, it's over, he's done. And that's a man dying on live television. And. But you don't want them to broadcast it. Like, it's. Like it's a sure thing. Funeral or a possible funeral. You know, you want people to tune in and be somewhat entertained by what they're seeing, but also keeping the gravity of the situation, no pun intended, the gravity of the situation in play, because the guy is fully risking his life on live television, which was bonkers. So that was really difficult. So I do appreciate that.

[A]

You can't even rehearse that, meaning your part.

[I]

No.

[A]

Or if you're gonna call a match or call a game, you could run through scenarios, watch other games, because you don't know what's gonna happen. And it's never happened before.

[H]

Correct.

[A]

So what do you do, Just have notes and possibly go to them?

[H]

There was no playbook. I honestly think that's part of why they asked me to come in, because my forte is live conversation, live promos, live storytelling, and anything can happen on a WWE broadcast. The audience can take a promo in a different direction. You really never know what anybody's going to say until they get out there and say it. They might forget something. You have to figure out how to cover it and tell your stories. And so I think that's why they said, hey, would you like to come in and do this thing? We think you can add entertainment value, but also we think you can add the element of live tv. Anything can happen. What's this story going to look like as it unfolds? And I was honored to be a part of it because Alex is a great guy. His family's fantastic, and it was very cool to meet him and just kind of be in that space with greatness. But, yeah, it was. There was no playbook. I mean, we. We rehearsed it in the sense that, like, Alex, you know, he wanted. He wanted to climb it a couple days early to try, you know, but he strapped in and stuff like that. But it was raining, so he only climbed sections of it. And so we had packages and things to throw, too, and we had options. But, like, you can't just run through the whole thing. You just don't know how long it's going to take. You don't know where he's going to be when you don't know what Any of this is going to look like. So that's. I love live TV in that way. When you put somebody's life at stake in that scenario, it adds a different element to it. But it was a very, very cool once in a lifetime experience.

[A]

Was there an emergency shoot to pull us? Something went wrong?

[D]

No. What was the protocol? Like, if something goes wrong, what do we do?

[H]

Elle Duncan was the host for the show and she's incredible. And they had, I think it was on a 15 second delay and I believe if something went wrong they would be able to cut the feed. And then there was a prepared statement that Elle had, I think. And within the 15 seconds they were going to try to decide whether to come to her and have the statement read or they were just going to go off air and that'd be the end of it. And you just. We wouldn't talk about it. So it was really up in the air, but a lot of confidence and everybody, including Alex, that he was just going to be able to do this.

[A]

I was able to finish Unreal on the flight over here. It was a long flight. We're from Nashville. Do you watch it back and see how they've edited all the things, the many hours that you've done?

[H]

No, no, I can't watch the show. I didn't watch season one and I wasn't even in it. I can't watch it. It like makes me feel dirty.

[A]

Because you're over sharing?

[H]

Yes.

[A]

Does that feel weird saying, here's my real name, here's my other name, here's the real name.

[H]

Stuff's not as bad because like the Internet, so that.

[F]

But.

[H]

But like sharing the behind the scenes of how the stories happen and like the ins and outs of the industry, that part feels like I'm just not totally comfortable with that. I'm not entirely on board with all of it. So even like having those interviews, I. I don't feel myself. I can't. I feel myself like clamming up, you know, like the sit downs are like, okay, tell me about this story. I'm like, how much do I want them to know? You know? So it's like, it's just not for me. I can't watch it. As a fan. If I were just a fan, I would love it. That would be what I dreamed of when I was a kid. Like, tell me, tell me the juice. Like, give me. How does all this happen? This is amazing. You know, that's what people want. But I think especially us kind of older school, anybody that's like Been wrestling for longer than 10 years. Five, 10 years. It's just so hard to, like, break that wall down.

[A]

WrestleMania 42 in Vegas. Do you like Vegas for WrestleMania?

[H]

Yes, because, well, I'm in LA, so it's easy to get to. But it's also, like, built for big events, so, like, the access to allegiance is in and out. Amazing. San Francisco, awful. Traffic, terrible. It means a lot of food, a lot of great stuff to do, you know, Beautiful city. Love it. But when you put how many people are here? It's a hundred thousand people. It's chaos. Vegas. No, it's easy. You wouldn't even know that there was a game. You wouldn't even know WrestleMania was happening if you didn't see all the signs. You know what I mean? If you were just a person driving through. I'm on my way to Reno, going through Vegas, whatever. Wouldn't you know, oh, there's an event. Okay, that's it. They built it that way, and so I love that. And there's a bunch of food, a bunch of shows. So, like, you know, family and friends come in for those big events like they do for the Super Bowl. You know, the players bring everybody in, but, like, I don't have to entertain everybody.

[A]

There's enough for them.

[H]

There's enough. And it's all in close proximity. They can entertain themselves. They can figure it out. They can walk to it. I don't have to, like, have responsibility for making sure that, like, my. My friend and third cousin are having a good week.

[A]

Appreciate the time you get [e-mail] to WrestleMania 42. Big fan, Seth. Thanks for coming by.

[H]

Thank you, guys.

[A]

All right, so here we go. Let's build the Super Bowl 60 parlay. We're going to Patriots plus four and a half.

[D]

Think about that for a little bit.

[A]

Love it. We're also a bit biased because we have the Patriots in our buy a team league, which we're down, like, four grand on that. Huh?

[C]

45.

[B]

Gosh.

[A]

So the best we can do is be minus 4200.

[D]

That would be great. It's like charity anything.

[A]

It's either we'll take it off 46 or 42. That's what we're going to be. 40.

[C]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, shoot. At the start of the playoffs, we were. So that's good.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Super bowl mvp. It's gonna be one of the two quarterbacks.

[D]

It's tough because you're thinking, like, all right, plus four, there's a chance that the Patriots can win, right?

[A]

I'm going Drake May.

[C]

Nice.

[D]

See, by doing that, then you really think the Patriots can pull this off?

[A]

Yeah, I'll go. I'm not doing super bowl mvp. I'm going to pull that off. So no need to edit it out. You can just let me live in this for a second because I'm going Patriots plus four and a half. I'm going to skip Super Bowl MVP. I'm going to do Drake May plus 230 yards passing. I'm going to do Sam Darnold plus 210 yards passing and I'm gonna do Kenneth Walker III plus 60 yards of rushing. So we'll build that up. But the Patriots gotta get be close. Yeah. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app used a Code Bobby Sports. It's Code Bobby Sports. Bet live for your share of $5 million in prizes with the code Bobby Sports in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours.

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[A]

We're going to go in a second to Sean Alexander. Who he talks about fantasy football here and he was really one of the guys. Like when I first started getting into fantasy football, you wanted to draft Sean Alexander. There were about two or three guys back in the day that were always good for big points every week.

[D]

Was he the first round pick? Oh, yeah, he was. Projections?

[A]

Probably first overall.

[I]

Overall.

[A]

Yeah, first overall.

[D]

That's what I meant.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Sean Alexander's peak was like the early 2000s. So 2002-2003-2004-2005. But he was awesome. That's when I really got the. The itch that I can make money gambling on fantasy. Yeah.

[D]

I mean you're just don't. You've been good at fantasy for as long as I've been good.

[A]

I swear it's not. It's actually just paying attention.

[C]

Yeah. It's being active on it.

[A]

It's more work if you just do the work for the most part, you win because you're just Watching the waiver wires.

[D]

Have you ever. Well, no, you trade. You're good at trading.

[A]

No, I'm not good at it. I probably have a lower trade percentage of successful trades than anybody in the league. I just do more of it.

[D]

I remember a while, like, when I first got in, you were like. You kind of gave me, like, little tips on what to who to draft or whatever, or, like, how to draft.

[A]

And always trade with me. I was like, I'm the one that.

[D]

No, no, I'm serious. And then Bobby, it was like buying a car from him. He'd be like, hey, man, you really don't need that running back. Like, let me tell you what you really need.

[A]

So we talked to Sean Alexander. It's pretty cool because the Seahawks are in the Super Bowl. He's here. Here he is. Running back Sean Alexander. Sean, thanks for coming by, man.

[I]

Yeah, no doubt. No doubt.

[A]

I mean, your own team's in it.

[I]

That's so cool. So good, man. You know, the. The idea of.

[D]

Of.

[I]

We'll talk about it when we're ready.

[E]

No, we're on.

[B]

We're good.

[I]

Oh, we're good.

[A]

Yeah. We don't have, like, good voices or anything. We just talk like that.

[I]

I just go, okay, yeah, we're just normal. The idea that I came in this thing 20 years ago, and now this is our fourth Super bowl in 20 years. Like, the guys that are here, like, oh, yeah, every five years, see y' alls go to Super Bowl. And I'm just like, you know, when I first got here, 25. I came in season 25. And the first 25 years, you know, you watch history, you got Steve Larger was good. Jim Zorn did some things okay. And you're like, gosh, we were just not that good. You know what I mean? And now. And now you're here, you're looking at this, and you're like, gosh, you know, we got to build something that's like. Like, we're a good football club. You know what I mean? Like, you look up and you're like, okay, hey, every five years, you're going to be like, oh, Seahawks are in the game. Yeah, it's about time we get back in the game. Like, you know, like, that's how it feels. And I feel like this team, if they handle business, they could. The nucleus is set that they could be in here couple more times in the next three years, too. So it's awesome. I think Coach McDonald is amazing. He's done a great job. He's a great mixture of Mike Holmgren and Pete Carroll, which is wild, you know, so. So, yeah, so super, super sweet watching these guys go to work.

[A]

Would you play away games and go, man, this crowd's only compared to what we have at home. Like, they think they have a good crowd. But then, you know, in Seattle, like, you guys go extremely hard.

[I]

Hard and crazy. But then, you know, it was also, you know, I was. There was the start of, like, fantasy football. And so I remember, you know, you know, in Alabama, you go to a college. Tennessee, Ugh. We can't stand you.

[B]

We hate you.

[I]

You know. You know, Auburn. Please don't hurt us. You know, you know, you get to love. You know, you get to the pros. And you remember the Chiefs because we were still in the West. The Chiefs were loud. And then, you know, there was. There was a little. Little fight about the Raiders. You know, they were kind of weird, you know, so. So then we go to the NFC west, you know, and so we're over there, and that's when we built the stadium. So we built the stadium, and then we jumped into the West. So it was just uniquely different vibe. And I remember going out for a game and, you know, you know, left tackle Walter Jones.

[A]

Boo.

[I]

You know, quarterback has back.

[D]

Boo.

[I]

And they're like. And tailback for the Seahawks, Sean's in. And I started hearing people clap. I was like, hey, hey, Mack. That was our fullback, Mac.

[A]

Strong.

[D]

Hey.

[I]

Did they sound like they were clapping? He's like, yeah. I was like, what just happened? There's this thing now that's called fantasy football where, like, people are picking you because you scored so many touchdowns. I was like, what is it? He goes, yeah, it's like a game that you can play. He's explaining to me, like, we're stretching. He's explaining to me, like, how fantasy football is taking over, how fans react to people. So I would score touchdowns in games. They'd be like, yay. Or you see people like, oh. So the road games were kind of weird for us because people were reacting weird for us, especially when I would score, you know? But we came home, didn't matter. Everybody was going down for the Seahawks.

[D]

What do you miss most about playing?

[I]

You know what? I think everybody says it. It's guys kind of coming together, different personalities, different backgrounds. One goal, like, can we. Can we go be the best team that this organization has ever seen before? Can we get to the Super Bowl? Can we win it? Can guys make plays that they never thought they could? You know? And then can they do it again and again? And again, so I. I like the calamity of just players becoming men. We're all 20, like, 21 when you get there, you know. And so, you know, I won MVP at 28, you know, so, like, you know, that's the super bowl year too, you know, so. So just watching that, that maturation process is what I always remember.

[A]

What kind of locker room guy is Sam Donald?

[I]

Sam's awesome, you know, like, it seems like everybody loves him because he's figured out how to be comfortable in his own skin, how to just work hard and grind and not try to be somebody else. And see those are best teammates, where it's like, man, this is who I am. I'm still trying to get better at being who I am, but I'm definitely not going to try to be you, you know, and those guys are great. But servant loves people, wants people to be better, wants people to get better. He's never going to demean or lower somebody for his own self, you know, so he would. He'll take the fall on the knife first. And those kind of. Those are great leaders, great leadership skills.

[A]

Were you a running back that craved contact?

[I]

I crave the touchdowns, and the contact.

[A]

Was part of it.

[I]

So I knew that. And a lot of guys always say, like, man, you know, you kind of played the game in the, you know, 50 middle field. Yeah, I'm 50. Juju bounce outside, you know, he said, you get into the 20 and they'd be like, you push the incredible Hawk button. You know, I. I love the fact of making the whole stadium say the game just shifted. The score is either farther away or they back in it. And so I wanted to go score the touchdowns all the time. And so I ran like this means everything. So I just wanted to dominate the red zone. And so that was the goal.

[D]

I always wondered that, you know, like, when you break loose, what's going through your mind? Do you black out or are you thinking?

[I]

I'm always thinking, you know, I had a great sprint coach, God rest his soul. Joe Gentry, trade, Olympic athlete back in the 80s. Trained, trained a couple of high schools and college kids. And my agent knew him and was like, joe, we know you're retired, man. Why don't you come and show Sean Xander how to run a 40? So he flew down to Alabama and helped me their training played the rookie season. And then he called me up on the phone and was like, you're holding your breath when you run. You'd be so much faster. And so we just started training from that end of that all the way to my career. And I just felt like I got faster and faster and faster through my career. I broke a lot of long runs, and they were like, what's going on? I was like, I kept all the normal football coaches that I had, but I brought. I added this one sprint coach, and I felt like I had a nitro button. You remember, I added that nitro button to my NFL game, and it was just the people, they were at my mercy. It was really cool.

[A]

What is Stand Together about, man?

[I]

Stand together is about 900 some of the most successful businessmen, women, and philanthropic leaders in the country. And they put their time, their talents and treasures together to tackle some of the country's biggest issues. I get to play the role of the ambassador of Stand Together, and I get to help build the philanthropic locker room. You know, I built the perfect tripod. There's people in communities everywhere that do great work. There's foundations that do great work. There's people that can help fund it or give great ideas. You know, they're kind of the backbone of the thought process behind it. But I get to bring the influencers in. NFL players, basketball players, entertainers, actors, singers. And I say, hey, you're busy traveling the world. You're busy doing this, you're busy playing football. What you don't have enough time is to come over there and scoop the mashed potatoes and build the house. It looks great, but you don't really have enough time for that. What if somebody else was already doing that and they did exactly what you wanted to do and you. All you had to do was go be. You be on the radio, do your show, be famous and let everybody know. I said, you're going to inspire everybody else. You might inspire 100 or thousand people to go do what you're doing, which inspires hundreds of thousands, which inspires millions. And now we're touching millions of lives for you, just doing what you do, but partnering with somebody else that I was already doing the work. And we're just seeing just hundreds of thousands and millions of people's lives and communities impacted in such great ways. And so I go around with Stand Together and I bring guys in and we have dinners, and I'm like, hey, you know. You know, I just see guys all around, like Barry Sanders. Hey, what is it that you would want to do, seeing communities, you know, to younger guys, oh, hey, Ricky Waters, what would you like to do in community? Did I keep getting younger? Hey, Jalen Hurst, what would you like to do? You know, Joe Burrow, what do you. And we're just having the conversations about, like, you know, people get in the league and they say, man, I got to help some kind of way, but if you're playing, you really don't have the time. But what if we could shortchange this? What if we could just build the team around you and let you just be the face. You're. You're good at being a star. Let that star shine, and let's go find the rest of people that can go do it for you. I love it. I mean. I mean, we have helped millions of people already, and I think it's just the beginning.

[A]

Well, Sean, I appreciate the time. I was a big fan.

[I]

No doubt.

[A]

They had to try to draft you every year. Fantasy.

[I]

You didn't want no fans.

[D]

He's got it for you.

[I]

Yeah. They're like, oh, he scored.

[A]

We really appreciate the time.

[I]

No doubt, no doubt. Hawks win.

[A]

Who's the coolest person that you guys have seen with your own eyes today?

[D]

Mine's easy.

[A]

Go ahead.

[D]

And I went in circles because during the interviews, when I saw him, we were interviewing someone, and I saw him, and I was like, as soon as this interview is done or we're done, I have to go find him. And I looked and looked, and I can find him. CD Lamb. It was freaking awesome.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you did say, I saw.

[C]

He kept telling me, kevin, if you see him again, let me know.

[A]

I thought he was trying to get me with the CDs. Nuts.

[C]

No, no, no.

[D]

I didn't see any cowboys. I mean, I saw.

[A]

We.

[D]

Me and Brandon saw Emmett Smith eating pizza, but he was the only other cowboy we saw.

[A]

That's interesting.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Who else? No, no, that's not true. Darren Woodson.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[I]

Yeah.

[C]

We walked behind him.

[D]

Yeah, we did. I'll tell you someone else who I saw was really cool. Martha Stewart today. Yeah.

[A]

I wouldn't have even noticed her because I wouldn't be looking. Yeah, for Martha Stewart, it was bizarre. There's so many people in that room, and you have to have credentials to get in the room. So pretty much, they think if you're in the room, you won't freak out on people because you're credentialed enough to actually get the credentials. But it's loaded full of famous people.

[C]

So many everywhere you look, and they're.

[D]

Not, like, they're right next to you. Like, sometimes you can be walking next to them the whole time.

[A]

Mostly famous athletes. And because of that, I think I'm trained to look for the famous athlete and Most of the time, they're just bigger people. Yeah, it's the bigger people in the room.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Or the cooler people with more jewelry. One of the two.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Some dudes are really like, Joe Milton. You could tell he was somebody, and they're like, oh, that's Joe Milton. Just what he was wearing.

[D]

Did you hear me when I told you that was him?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

But I still can pick him out.

[D]

Because he was right there, and I didn't want to say it too loud. Hey, man. Still Milton.

[E]

But.

[D]

But you never responded, so I'm like, he can't hear me.

[A]

But as an adult, man. Would you have gone up to CD Lam.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And said, what cd?

[D]

Can I get a picture? Dude, big fan. Love you. Boom.

[A]

You would have said that 100%. Even though you're 15 years older than him. Yes.

[D]

He's a current Cowboys player. I mean, he's the. He's one of the best.

[A]

Even in an extremely professional environment where that's really not the thing. It's like when Adam went up to Adam Sandler in the airport.

[E]

Adam.

[A]

Kevin. When Kevin went up to Adam Sandler in the airport, and I was like, don't do that. Because it's a private airport. Everybody feels like it's a safe place. You would have done the Kevin rule.

[D]

Here's the deal. I've. I'd already watched, like, 10 or 15 people just go up to random athletes. Hey, man, can I get a picture?

[F]

Absolutely.

[D]

And everyone I saw was happy to take a picture. So I'm thinking this is what they're here for. I'm sure they expect it, and they're good to take pictures.

[A]

Maybe it's not a big deal then, but there are no fans in that place.

[D]

No, no.

[A]

It's supposed to be all media, credentialed media. But, yeah, maybe they're used to it.

[D]

Dude, I saw Jerry Rice in the bathroom. Like, it's bizarre.

[A]

At a urinal.

[D]

I know. He was fixing his tie in the mirror.

[A]

Did you say anything?

[D]

No, nothing. Nothing. No one was talking to him? No. And that's, you know, that's kind of like, to your point. Everyone's just like, be cool with everyone.

[A]

I saw Marcus Allen, but he was waiting in line to get his credential. Just standing there in line. Yeah. And you guys thought you saw Marcus Allen.

[D]

Kevin.

[C]

I was like, dude, there's Marcus Allen. Actually, no, that's not Marcus.

[A]

But then you later saw Marcus Allen.

[C]

Literally five minutes later. I'm like, eddie, the real Marcus Allen is right there.

[D]

It was.

[A]

Saw Matt Ryan.

[C]

Oh, yeah, he's big.

[A]

Tall, Tall, tall dude. Yeah. Super tall guy. Speaking of Woodson, we talked to Rod Woodson.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Pretty cool.

[A]

And I knew he had played corner and then safety, but he played corner in college, but I guess in the NFL did he go safety first and then corner?

[C]

When he was younger, he went safety.

[A]

Corner, NFL corner, then went back to safety. Yeah, I got confused. Yeah. With whatever I said. I thought I was wrong. He was like, you're not wrong. I was like, I don't even know what I said.

[C]

He's like. And when Pop Warner. I played safety.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. He was 10 years old.

[A]

Rod Woodson was a beast, though. This is our conversation with former Pittsburgh Steeler Rod Woodson. Hey, Rod. Good to see you.

[E]

Good seeing you.

[A]

When you come back to things like this, is it non stop fans?

[E]

No, I mean, it's. I mean, obviously you'd rather be a has been than it never was. But it's great to see all the guys. I mean, everybody goes in their different directions. You know, life happens and then super bowl week, it's like, catch up for a week, then life happens again. Right. Then next year, catch up for a week, then life happens. So it's kind of a blessing to come back to see the guys every. Every single year. Year.

[A]

I was a big fan. Watching you play like that was, you know, my heyday as well, like with the Steelers. And you. You played cornerback, then you played safety. You know, what point did you realize that was probably the move for you to make?

[E]

Well, I was a safety first, so I was a safety from 8 years old all the way through Purdue.

[A]

So I was long on your switch then.

[E]

No, no, you're right. You're right. In the league. In the league. And then. So when I. So when I started playing football, Powell football for the Oakland Raiders, or, excuse me, for the power Raiders, it was. It was safety. Safety all the way through my last year at Purdue. And they're like, hey, you know what? You might have to play corner in the league because you're fast. So they're like a little corner, a little safety, a little receiver, a little running back. My last year at Purdue, and then when I got to the league, they're like, listen, when I ran my time at the 40, the combine, they're like, okay, you're going to be a corner. I'm like, no, I don't want to be a corner. I mean, I really didn't like it. And it took me. Luckily I had Tony Dungy as my coach because Tony doesn't yell at you, he doesn't raise his voice at you. Gave me a lot of love. I didn't know what I was doing out there for about two and a half years. I was like this plan just out there. And you know, obviously when we first got to Pittsburgh, we weren't that good in Pittsburgh. We were at the bottom of the AFC Central when the running shoot was going. Boomer was going in Cincinnati, Kar was going in Cleveland, and we were the last. Right. The Steelers. And then we kind of grew into it. And then 12 years later, moved back to safety. And I was like, oh, you know how when you just come home and you sit on your couch, you're like, man, this feels good. I was back home, I was like, finally, Finally I get to play the position I was. Should have played my whole career.

[D]

Yeah. In my opinion. I mean, my son, he's sixth grade, he plays corner and I tell him this is the hardest position in football, you know? Do you agree with that?

[E]

Absolutely. I mean, you give up one tug, it's, it's like you're the worst guy ever. Like if, I mean, you have to shut, you have to be a shutdown corner. You can't give up any catches. If you give up a hitch, okay, they may be so. But if you give up one touchdown, touchdown and don't give up two in a game and don't let it happen back to back weeks, then you're a bust, right? I mean, but in the NFL, a quarterback can throw two interceptions, three interceptions, but then he has a game winning touchdown pass. He's the guy, right? It's like, I don't, it doesn't make sense to me.

[A]

What were the pass interference rules back in the day?

[E]

There was none. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.

[A]

They were less. They were as many candidates.

[E]

But no, it's, it's always been there. So when Mel Blunt was like crushing guys on the, at the cornerback position, they're like, hey man, we need to get some rules out here. Because back in the day there was none. I'm talking back, back in the 60s and 70s, there was none, right? So then when Mel, big as he was, Mel was six, four can run. He was just, you know, running with receivers, pushing them, and they're like, okay, we just need a five yard chuck rule. And really because of Mel blunt and those DBs back then were having their way with the receivers down the field. So they, they put the, the rule in place in the mid-70s, somewhere in that area. I can't really remember the exact year, but it's been there for quite a long time. They just enforce it differently today than they did in my time frame because it was this, it was, it was always that five yard rule. It's been there for quite a long time. It's just now you see them run a, a five yard slant at three yards and the, the corner is touching the receiver and they call pass interference, which I thought that was. No, it wasn't a pass interference until 5 zone because I get to, I get to hit you anyway. So it's like my argument always has been, man, let the DBs play, let the receivers play, play. And at the end of the day, if it's egregious, call it to me.

[A]

Watching you return balls, watching anybody return balls like that is what feels like the most vulnerable position in football because they're coming at you and you're, you're not even looking at them.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that so much of a feel thing? Were you able to divert your eyes and look, how were you able to become a successful returner?

[E]

Well, I might.

[H]

I, I think it was like my.

[E]

First or second kick return in the league when I first came into the, with the Steelers. You know, when you're in college, the hole opens up and it stays open. I learned not so much in the International Football League. I'm like looking at the hole open up, I'm going through the hole, it closed, I get hit, side of the ear, ball goes this way, I go that way, fumble. And I realize, hey, these things happen really, really fast in this league. So I have to make sure once I do make that decision, I'm gone. And so for me, I think the best returners, when you see the Devin Hesters of the world, it's the guys who have that vision, who can see it, who aren't afraid to have a little contact inside of that. And that's what I loved about it. It's like I played defense even though I loved offense when I was in high school. And my only opportunity knowing I was going to touch the ball is either get an interception or a punt return. Kick return. I have to take advantage of that. I know I'm not going to get any opportunities on offense, so it was fun to do. But you have to have that no fear factor when you're a returner and being able to make some catches when you probably shouldn't and when you probably should.

[D]

Fair catcher Rod, when you win the super bowl, how long does that high last? And like how long does the party last.

[E]

Well, the lows last a lot longer, I can tell you that, because I was in three, I lost two. The lows last a lot longer than the highs. The one time that we did win, I mean, it was great, right? Going back. And I didn't even do the parade back in Baltimore. I didn't go back for the parade. I went to Hawaii with my whole family and like, listen, I finally got one. I'm in Hawaii. I'd rather be here than the cold weather and being with the fellas, you know. But it, I would say about, for me, it was about 48 hours. And then, hey, let's get back to it.

[D]

Can you sleep?

[E]

Well, yeah. When you're drinking, yes, you can fall asleep.

[D]

It's called passing out.

[A]

Why is working with the DEA fentanyl free so important to you? Like, tell me about it.

[E]

Well, first of all, you know, the NFL Alumni Health has done a tremendous job of partnering with the dea. This is our third straight year coming here to the Radio row to get the word out. And listen, everybody walks around with the phone in their hand. And it's really when drug related deaths are, when you talk about from ages 18 to 44 are the most international in this country. And fentanyl has grown especially kind of like that 2015ish. It was there. 2018ish. The pandemic hits. It's rampant across the country. And the DEA has done a tremendous job of telling young kids and how to talk to the young kids about fentanyl itself. Because social media guys, we have, what we really want to get across is that social media, you can't buy prescription drugs on social media. You just can't. So let's be smart. Your physician, your pharmacist is where you can get your prescriptions. And listen, 2 millimeters of fentanyl can kill you. It doesn't discriminate. They've done a tremendous job over the last three years. 50,000 people died in 2024, but it went down from 2023, where 79,000 people died in the US from fentanyl. So each year getting the word out. And that's, I think that's the great thing, you know, I love about the NFL Alumni Health partnering with the DEA and Agent Cole with the dea. I mean he is, he's the boss man. And what they've done to, to correct that with our youth not only coming out here on Radio Row, but going around to different communities around the country, but also partnering with the NFL Health. NFL Alumni Health has been huge for getting the word out that let's be smart to our youth getting on that phone thinking that you're going to get some type of prescription drug. And if you look at, if you go to dea.gov1pill, you'll see the original pill and the fentanyl pill. They look just alike. I don't know how you tell the difference. And for me, it was a little personal because my oldest son was involved in little drugs when he was in high school. Unfortunately enough that it wasn't fentanyl because it wasn't fentanyl wasn't a crave back in the early 90s. But to, to think that I'm, I have a kid who might have a drug issue today would be worrisome if, if I was a parent.

[A]

Well, we really appreciate you coming by, talking with us about football and sharing that as well. So big fan.

[E]

I appreciate it.

[A]

Thank you so much, Ryan.

[E]

Appreciate it. Guys.

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[A]

Final interview is going to be us talking to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Who? Eddie was just. You're so buff, dude.

[D]

Dude, he was ripped. I was surprised to see how, like, you know, he hasn't played in a while.

[A]

I thought he was just a normal football player. Do you think he was exceptionally ripped? No, I didn't either.

[D]

You didn't?

[C]

I thought he. Oh, I thought he was like, his arms and shoulders were pretty thick.

[A]

I thought he was a big guy.

[D]

Like a chance chest.

[F]

Boom.

[D]

Really big.

[C]

But like, no, I mean, especially compared to the guys that we saw today.

[D]

No, I think it was for me, more like, oh, he's a quarterback. I've never seen him in person. He just. I'm sure he looks just normal, but he didn't look normal.

[A]

Here he is, Mr. Not Looking Normal. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Ryan, good to see you, man.

[F]

Yeah, good to see you guys, too.

[A]

So can we talk about the quarterbacks this game? Like, what do you see? Drake May, obviously, second year guy, young guy. How hard is it to be a leader if you're that young on a team?

[F]

So I think that's a big thing for Mike Vrabel that he wanted to see Drake improve on this year and just continue to get better with. When you play like he did throughout the season, it's a little bit easier to be able to command the boys a little bit, but I think instant respect just from his personality. He's got such an engaging personality, so that part of it is great. Sam Darnold, when he walks into a locker room, the scar tissue that he's built up over the years and then just the experiences that he's had, it's been great for him to step in there, be an instant leader, and looking forward to both these guys, seeing how they play. Sam's had a much better postseason than Drake. May has in terms of the actual play on the field, but now we're just looking at 60 Minutes on Sunday.

[D]

Yeah, we've never met, but you're still jacked, man. Like, are you.

[F]

Oh, wow. I just started working out again.

[I]

Thank you.

[D]

Dude, are you. Are you at it? You going hard still?

[F]

You know, I got to keep the beach body right. You know, and the amount of times that I have to take my shirt off on Thursday Night Football, like, I want to represent for all the dad bods out there, so I don't want to get too fit or too cut, but I think it's because I'm wearing two shirts.

[A]

Oh, that's what.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

How's your health? How's your body? When you retire, do you feel. Do you start to feel things more?

[F]

I was extremely lucky. So I played for 17 years. I had three surgeries. Broken leg was the biggest surgery that I had. But I feel great. I wake up in the morning and feel really good. And I know I'm very fortunate for that because there are a lot of guys that aren't in the same situation. But as a quarterback, it's like, things that guys have to worry about. Shoulders, elbows, knees, ankles, fingers. Like, I never had any of those issues. So. Feeling pretty good. Thank you.

[A]

With Vrabel not having coached a Super bowl but played in multiple Super Bowls, do you think that gives him a bit of an advantage versus a coach who's never coached? Because at least he's played in it and understands what the week is or the two weeks is like leading up to it?

[F]

Yeah, the two weeks leading up is a lot. And, you know, I was never fortunate enough to be in one, but I think you rely on some of those people that have been in these situations. So I think Mike McDonald has probably talked to a bunch of his peers to say, what did you do? How do you adjust? You know, the big talk is like halftime. It's so much longer. And so you go in and during the regular season, you go into halftime, and it's like you basically have time to get in there, go to the bathroom, eat an orange slice, and then you're going back on the field. So this will be one where I think the advice they'll get, relax, sit down for a little bit. It's not like a normal one. But even just throughout this week, how do we continue to get our team to keep their focus on what it's supposed to be on? Let's keep football. The main thing. I think that's something that both coaches are preaching this week.

[D]

Out of all the places you lived, what was your favorite?

[F]

Well, so I played on nine different teams. We have seven kids that were born in seven different states, and so we've got ties to all of them. But I'll tell you what I mean, Buffalo was certainly my favorite team to play for, and the people in the city of Buffalo are very special. But we've had some great. We love living in Tampa. We love our neighbors there. We love living in New Jersey. When I was with the jets, and every time I do this, I forget certain areas that we lived, and I get in trouble. Houston was also great, but we had a great time, treated every stop, whether it was a year, two years, or four years, as an adventure, and really enjoyed it.

[A]

A lot of questions about Drake May's shoulder. Do you think leading up to the super. Sometimes things are invented for the sake of invention, for something to talk about?

[F]

Yeah, it's awesome. Now we get two weeks. You got to keep coming with new things to talk about, Right.

[A]

So do you think that's a real concern?

[F]

I don't think it's a real concern. The reason being is sometimes, like, if you get hurt early in the season and you have that lingering shoulder issue all year long, then it just continues. You know, there's no Stopping until you get a bye week, there's no stopping to be able to relax and take a load off. But in this game, for these 60 minutes, there are going to be things. If he is not feeling great, they're going to be able to make him feel great for 60 minutes and he's going to be able to go. So I don't have concerns at all about his shoulder.

[A]

You like tv? Is it fun? Do you find yourself studying as much every week or are you kind of getting into it where you understand it?

[F]

You study in a different way for sure. But I really do like tv. A lot of stuff I do now isn't necessarily always watching like the all 22 and the. It's more watching it as a viewer. Let's watch a broadcast and let's see what they're talking about. Let's see how the fan is consuming this. But I do, and I think a lot of it too is being part of a different team. The team we have at Amazon is unbelievable from the top down. And the teammates that I get to do it with every Thursday night, Carissa, Tony Gonzalez, Richard Sherman, Andrew Whitworth. We're a really tight group and we really enjoy being on the road with each other.

[D]

How tough is that post game show where everyone's yelling while you guys are.

[F]

It's the best. It's really. It's starting to really catch on. The last four years, you know, and we know particular cities that we stay in. If the home team is going to win, the crowd is going to be much bigger in some of these cities. But there's also a lot of Brave fans, you know, the road, the road team. Those fans will stick around and it always gets interesting after the game. But it's just the peer pressure I feel to take my shirt off every Thursday night.

[A]

You're like Bert Kreischer.

[F]

Yeah, it's like Bert Kreischer. And I actually, my oldest daughter is now a freshman in high school. So you can imagine walking home after or flying home after taking my shirt off and the things and the daggers that she stares at me coming through the door like, dad, you're embarrassing me again.

[A]

I've talked to Andrew a couple times on Zoom Zoom. And then I was at a gym, a boxing gym, and he was there and I wasn't sure if it was him, but then I actually got closer to him. If this were like the 1400s, he would own full continents. He is such a large man, Such a large man.

[F]

He's probably 60 pounds lighter than at his Heaviest as well. But he's so fit. The thing that you don't get about these guys. Yes. He's 6, 7, which now, like, oh, 6, 7. We did a thing last night. He's 300 pounds. But the athleticism on this guy, it's unbelievable. You have these superhuman athletes that are being put on the offensive and defensive lines. And he's a great example of a guy that's now 43 years old. You look at him, he's fit, he's in shape, and he's as flexible. Like, if you went to a hot yoga class with him. I think you put his foot behind his head. It's. What are we doing? That's not supposed to be legal.

[A]

You know, he's something. Even if you don't know who he is. His box, like, he's something.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Not sure. Ufc, football, basketball, but he's something.

[F]

Yeah. There were. There were people that were put on this earth to play professional sports. I was not one of them. This body shape and type, no. But Andrew Whitworth was put on this earth to play professional sports, and he did it at the highest level.

[A]

You have your Aruba shirt on. Were you there?

[F]

So my wife and I went to Aruba. I don't know if you guys have ever been, but this was my first time. And for us, you know, we. We've been married for almost 20 years now. We have seven kids. We don't get away a lot. So we jumped on the opportunity to go. But then it was like, what are we going to talk about? It was like a first date all over again, you know? But they called the island One Happy, One Happy island for a reason. Like, we got there right away. You feel so relaxed and light. We came back feeling so rejuvenated, but it was like a great combination of white sandy beaches and all the things you need. But there was also the adventure. Being able to go for a hike in the national park, being able to go to one of these natural swimming pools, being able to scuba dive, all that stuff was great. We came back refreshed and ready to go.

[A]

Ryan, really appreciate the time. Love your work on television now. It really is great. Thanks so much.

[F]

Thank you.

[A]

All right, that's going to do it for us today. Appreciate you guys for listening. And we'll have some more folks early next week. Whenever we do this tonight, I'm gonna go play trivia at Barstool. They have a theater. I'm gonna jump into one of the teams. I am, as of right now, the least famous of all the celebrities that I saw, which is not the best place to be.

[I]

Who did you see?

[A]

Adam Devine.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Is on one of the teams.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Righteous gemstones.

[A]

Boston Rob from Survivors on another one.

[C]

I don't know who that is.

[A]

There's four. Well, you only know me because you work with me.

[C]

Otherwise you wouldn't know who I was.

[A]

There's me. I don't know who the fourth person is, but right now, I'm the lowest celeb. But you don't want to be the lowest. You also really don't want to be the highest. Because if you're the highest, that means you're probably doing something below your level. Because if you know Brad Pitt's playing, oh, you're like, dude, you could have been. But, yeah. So I'm going to go try to not embarrass myself today. When I went to do the show Mostly Sports Today, which is a podcast that I listen to, I went and there were a bunch of people outside the door, like security and people that work for barstool. And it walked up and it said, barstool. I was just gonna walk in, and they were like, excuse me, sir, you can't go in. And I was like, oh, I was gonna go into mostly sports. They're like, no, they're doing a show.

[D]

No fans, not a fan.

[A]

And I said, I mean, I am a fan. I said, well, I'm supposed to be here. And they're like, do you. Do you have any sort of credential or pass to be in here? I said, no, I'm supposed to be a guest on the show. And they're like, what's your name? And I said, bobby Bones. And they were like, wait, no one's told us anything about it.

[D]

Oh, Mike.

[A]

So not only they didn't hear, they weren't told. So one of them walks in and comes back out and he goes, yeah, I think he's okay.

[C]

I gotta.

[A]

I think he's okay. I think he's okay.

[D]

He didn't look dangerous.

[A]

I went in and sat for, like, 45 minutes and did that show, but that's what's up from San Francisco. Anything else you guys want to say?

[C]

No, man, there's just a lot of people here.

[D]

Did you see Trevor Lawrence?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Tall, tall, thin, big dude.

[E]

Oh.

[D]

Oh, really? I thought he was big.

[A]

Oh, maybe I didn't see him up close. I just saw him walking by.

[D]

That's pretty.

[A]

Maybe he was wearing some slimming black. That's why it looked like that.

[C]

Chris McCaffrey.

[A]

I didn't see walk by.

[C]

That was cool.

[D]

Not tall.

[C]

Not tall. But he had, like, six people around him. Like you would. I don't know. I mean, I know he's big, but as far as, like a celebrity.

[A]

Is he muscular?

[D]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He looks jacked. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, looks like great shape.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Not Ryan Fitzpatrick shape, but similar.

[D]

Are you making fun of me?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

No.

[A]

All right, you guys are going back to your hotel now. We're going back. Yes. Okay.

[C]

We're not walking.

[D]

Hey, good luck.

[A]

Thank you. I'm probably going to try to get a little nap, which means I'm going to be on my phone and answer emails the whole time. That's the nap until almost it's time I can take a nap and then get up and get dressed. All right, that's it from San Francisco. We'll see you guys next week. Bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow brandon on socials randonray music. You can follow the show on Instagram @bobbybonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host, producereddy, segment producer ickoffkevin, and executive producer ikegistro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.