25W: Most Memorable Conversations from 2025 PT1

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: 25W - Most Memorable Conversations from 2025 PT1

Date: December 25, 2025
Podcast: 25 Whistles by Bobby Bones

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Episode Overview

This special edition of "25 Whistles" hosted by Bobby Bones takes a retrospective look at some of the most engaging and memorable interviews from 2025. The episode spotlights conversations with top coaches and athletes, including Texas Tech football coach Joey McGuire, Vanderbilt QB and Heisman finalist Diego Pavia, Minnesota head coach PJ Fleck, and Tennessee basketball coach Rick Barnes. Each segment dives into candid stories, leadership insights, and unique behind-the-scenes details from college sports' evolving landscape.

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Key Segments & Highlights

1. Joey McGuire – Texas Tech Head Football Coach

[03:45 – 06:27]

On Player Development and NFL Preparation

• McGuire emphasizes dual priorities for his players: "Number one, you're coming here to get a great education. 1B, you’re preparing yourself to be a pro… at what you do." – Joey McGuire [03:57]
• Details are given about instilling professionalism, teaching players how to watch film, and prioritizing health:

  "A lot of guys in the NFL are still in the NFL because they can stay healthy... we spent a lot of time with [them] on that." [04:46]

• McGuire sees team health habits as essential to players’ long-term careers.

Leadership & Team Culture

• McGuire distinguishes how player leadership shifts each year:

  "This is a player-led team... I can send out one text to my leadership group... it's going to get taken care of." [06:05]

• Reveals that three captains returned, but strong newcomers were also incorporated into the leadership structure.

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2. Diego Pavia – Vanderbilt QB, 2025 Heisman Finalist

[06:27 – 25:21]

Academic and Athletic Balance at Vanderbilt

• On the challenge of transferring and academics:

  "I was taking 21 credits, working out two, three times a day... but it was all online, so that was cool." – Diego Pavia [07:17]

• On Vanderbilt’s student body:

  "You meet a lot of interesting kids... someone whose parents are high up or they own real estate in Nashville." [07:52]

Choosing Vanderbilt & the Transfer Process

• Describes following several coaches and players from New Mexico State to Vandy:

  "They took like four of our players... once Coach Kill went to Vanderbilt, that's when I was like, okay, I’m bought in." [08:44]

• Insisted on a fair, open quarterback competition:

  "I told 'em, I'll come if you promise me it's a 50-50 shot and the better person will play." [09:26]

Facilities: JUCO to SEC

• Contrasts his journey:
  • JUCO: "We worked out in a tent... squat racks on concrete... sounds like prison, I'll be honest." – Bobby Bones [12:29–12:55]
  • Vandy: "They're serving steak and chicken every day... desserts are great too. Chefs always cooking, snacks from wall to wall." [14:06]
• Includes a funny story: his sister stashing snacks in her bag during a Vandy visit. [14:49]

On Motivation and Mindset

• Regarding leadership:

  "I'm not going to go out without a fight... I want to win more than anything else in life. This is all I know." [11:30]

• Game-day hype:

  "I'm hyped, I'm jumping up and down... sometimes your energy is too high, you start to yawn and try to hide it." [11:59]

• High school setbacks and JUCO detour: Forced to play JV as a junior due to transfer rules, then missed half his senior season to injury. [16:00–17:16]
• Recruiting obstacles:

  "No one wanted a 5’10”, 5’11” quarterback... they didn't believe in me." [17:24]

• How he caught attention: Changed Twitter location from New Mexico to Tampa, Florida. "Once I switched, literally a week after I started getting offers." [18:52]

Mentoring & Coach Relationships

• Coach Jerry Kill had the biggest impact:

  "He's never lied to me... Once I stopped turning the ball over and got better in my reads, he put me back in the starting lineup.” [20:08]

College Football Games & Tech

• On stadium differences:

  "Auburn’s depth perception is different from Kentucky’s — just goes up higher on the walls." [21:30–21:49]

• On video games: Enjoys using video games for fun but sees limits in how well they simulate real football. [22:29]

NFL Aspirations

• "They can't tell the Heisman winner that he can't get drafted." [23:48]

• Notes that shorter QBs have succeeded: “I actually know more quarterbacks over six foot one who have played... less well than people under six foot.” [24:00]

Defensive Insights & Final Fun

• Asks defensive-minded Coach Lee a lot of questions:

  “We see NFL coverages all day... it’s just way different.” [24:20]

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3. PJ Fleck – Minnesota Head Football Coach

[28:41 – 32:34]

On Analytics, AI, and the Human Element

• AI and analytics are critical, but:

  “Our product is people. Apple’s product is the iPhone... When you’re dealing in a world where the product is 18-22-year-olds, there’s still a sense of the human part of it.” – PJ Fleck [29:17]

• Football’s unpredictability means you must account for injuries, player intangibles, and the specific context of each game.

PJ Fleck’s Love of Music

• Praises the new Las Vegas Sphere:

  "It is the greatest entertainment spectacle in the world... You’re immersed in the experience... It's the only concert I’ve ever been to where I never looked at the stage." [31:44]

• Talks about taking his staff to see Bruce Springsteen, country acts, and connecting with other coaches at Kenny Chesney’s show.

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4. Rick Barnes – Tennessee Head Basketball Coach

[32:39 – 47:24]

Reputation and Transition to Tennessee

• Bobby shares an anonymous SEC official’s praise:

  “Tremendous man on and off the court... Rick and I have a great relationship.” [33:42]

• On wardrobe switch after moving from Texas to Tennessee:

  “Once I... the colors change... I've always said, hey, come get what you want, getting ready to get a new wardrobe.” [34:35]

Building the Tennessee Program & Home Arena

• Tennessee has developed a thunderous fan base and one of the most intimidating home environments:

  “We’re the only programs in the country that sell out women’s softball, baseball, football, and basketball... I've had people tell me how hard it is to come in here and play." [35:30]

Loudest Arenas & Game Atmosphere

• Recalls legendary venues: Gallagher-Iba Arena (Oklahoma State), Reynolds Coliseum (NC State), and more. [36:45]
• Contrasts various SEC and Big 12 arena dynamics, noting a trend toward smaller but louder arenas.

On Referees and Game Management

• Shares a memory:

  “Timmy Higgins one night... comes by me, I just yelled out ‘Timmy’, he turns around, T’d me up... my foot was half an inch out of the box.” [39:00]

• Coach prefers referees who know when to manage vs. strictly enforce rules, and he expresses respect for officiating as a difficult and underappreciated profession. [41:00]

Locker Room Humor

• Hilarious anecdote: A fart machine was planted at a Texas press conference, targeting a reporter:

  "If you want me to get up, I'll walk in my locker and get that machine." [42:58]

Coaching Kevin Durant

• Durant’s work ethic and talent:

  "He’s the hardest worker... maybe the hardest worker we’ve ever coached... He just loves being in the gym and he still does even today.” [43:18]

• Recalls Durant’s game-changing performances and NBA readiness as a freshman.
• Favorite anecdote: A Kansas game where Durant was “unstoppable,” with coach Bill Self and Danny Manning in awe:

  “Danny [Manning] told me Bill looked at him and said, ‘Bill, that’s a bad mother—’ but he gave it to him any and every way you could.” [46:24]

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Notable Quotes

• Joey McGuire:
  “Number one, you’re coming here to get a great education. 1B, you’re preparing yourself to be a pro.” [03:57]

• Diego Pavia:
  “Once Coach Kill went to Vanderbilt, that’s when I was like, okay, I’m bought in.” [08:53]
  “No one wanted a 5’10”, 5’11” quarterback… They didn’t believe in me.” [17:24]
  “They can’t tell the Heisman winner that he can’t get drafted.” [23:48]

• PJ Fleck:
  “Our product is people. Apple’s product is the iPhone… there’s still a sense of the human part of it.” [29:17]
  On the Vegas Sphere: “It is the greatest entertainment spectacle in the world… You’re immersed in the experience.” [31:44]

• Rick Barnes:
  “I've always said, hey come get what you want…it’s all here, getting ready to get a new wardrobe.” [34:35]
  “We’ve had people tell us this is as hard a place to play as anywhere in the country.” [35:30]
  On Kevin Durant: “He’s as hard a worker—maybe the hardest worker—we’ve ever coached… He just loves the game of basketball.” [43:18]
  “Danny [Manning] told me Bill [Self] looked at him and said, ‘Bill, that’s a bad mother—’ but he gave it to him any and every way you could.” [46:24]

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Memorable Moments

• Diego Pavia hustling snacks out of Vanderbilt’s athlete lounge (and his sister stuffing her bag with treats) [14:49]
• PJ Fleck “fangirling” over Kenny Chesney and sharing a transcendent Vegas Sphere experience [31:44]
• Rick Barnes’ use of a fart machine during a press conference, and his willingness to “still do that stuff” [42:58]
• Humorous banter about playing JUCO football in a tent (Bobby: “Sounds like prison!”) [12:29]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Joey McGuire: 03:41 – 06:27
• Diego Pavia: 06:27 – 25:21
• PJ Fleck: 28:41 – 32:34
• Rick Barnes: 32:39 – 47:24

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Conclusion

This “best of 2025” episode of 25 Whistles offers both hardcore and casual fans a fast, insightful tour through collegiate sports’ most human and humorous stories—from the grind of academic-athletic balance, through the evolution of coaching and analytics, to the larger-than-life personalities who shape the games. Whether you’re laughing about fart machines in pressers, craving Vandy’s endless protein shakes, or admiring the heart of a Heisman finalist, this roundup is rich with candid, unforgettable moments and genuine sports wisdom.

Transcript

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

What did you expect it's a podcast called twenty five whistles twenty five whistles we've had some awesome guests sit down with us on the podcast this year so i want to look back at some of our favorite interviews that maybe you missed first up head coach of the number four seed in this year's college football playoff joey mcguire from texas tech tech twelve and one on the year they won the big twelve coach mcguire's put his name up there with the best up and coming coaches in the country he just signed a new seven year contract extension with tech so big congrats to him and man they're awesome here he is coach joey mcguire let us welcome one of my favorite coaches he's now the hunter the hunted has turned into the hunter coach mcguire.

[Diego Pavia]

What'S up and what's up brother so.

[Joey McGuire]

Good to see you and be on your show i appreciate it man where.

[Bobby Bones]

On the priority list is it for you to make sure your guys have maybe an advantage or are just ready to take a shot at the nfl.

[Joey McGuire]

It'S hot you know we talk about it all the time you know number one you're coming here to get a great education um and one b you're preparing yourself to be a pro now we talk about being a pro like being a great dad being a great husband you know i mean you're a pro at what you do but these guys that that we have on this team there's a lot of them that have the ability and athletic and mindset to be in the nfl so we want to make sure we're preparing them for that you walk into our team meetings everybody's going to have a notebook everybody's taking notes everybody's locked in teach them how to watch film watching extra film one of my big deals that i i talk about excuse me every single day is taking care of your body because you and i both know there's a lot of guys in the nfl that are still in the nfl because they can stay healthy and there's a lot of guys that have been cut over the history of the nfl because they can't stay healthy and they might be better than one guy but they just can't stay healthy so we we spent a lot of time with.

[Bobby Bones]

That are you off football all the time even when it's not your football.

[Rick Barnes]

Yeah i love it i meet up.

[Joey McGuire]

With it you know especially college football i love watching it's just a pageantry and you know it's it's almost like a movie at different stadiums and you know it's i'm heat up with it you know i watch a little bit of pros pro wise i'm trying to watch our guys anybody what's playing you know i'll tune in watch a couple of you know have it in the background while i'm watching film but yeah i don't have a lot of hobbies you know it's hanging out with my dog and my wife and watch football.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it different every year what the players do as leaders do you have some years where you just trust your captains to actually have meetings with the team and some maybe your captains aren't as established is it based on you know who the captains are every year.

[Joey McGuire]

One hundred percent you know we we've got a really strong group three of my captains are back i had five captains last year three of them return baron morton jacob rodriguez and brian ramirez but one thing that we did there were some really strong alpha males that came in and they had big voices they had been captains at their previous schools and so we wanted to make sure they had a voice and so like a guy like scott schuyler gill howard has been huge for us and so this is a player led team you know i can send out one text to my leadership group whatever that text says it's going to get taken.

[Bobby Bones]

Care of next up is the runner up in this year's heisman trophy race vanderbilt quarterback diego pavia diego became vandy's first ever heisman finalist led vanderbilt to the first ten win season of program history had thirty six total touchdowns and had over four thousand total yards the crazy part is when we had diego in studio before the season he said hey i want to win the heisman and we didn't like oh yeah right but it was like okay but he did it congrats to diego on a great season here he is good to see you thanks for spending some time.

[Diego Pavia]

With us appreciate you bobby thanks for.

[Bobby Bones]

Having me we were talking to coach lee last year and he was talking about you know it's hard to get into vanderbilt oh yeah and to recruit players it's got to be a special type of player i didn't realize that you it sounds like juniors and seniors can't transfer in you have to have graduated to come in so that puts a lot of stress on you then at school right like to get all.

[Diego Pavia]

That done for sure i mean i was taking twenty one credits i was still working out you know two three times a day still going to practice watching them practice but it was all online so that was cool whenever i.

[Bobby Bones]

Tried to do like online when i got a ticket i spent way less time invested in being on because it was it was like easily available so i did terrible at taking like driver's ed online yeah yeah so i feel like if i took online classes i would not pay attention well you should.

[Diego Pavia]

Have just typed it into chat gbt would have got it down that's true yeah you're true different times not saying i do that not saying i do that i just know a few students.

[Bobby Bones]

What'S vandy like to go to class i'm assuming you're going to class oh.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah you meet a lot of interesting kids at class that want to like basically own the world you know or someone like like their parents are just really interesting or they just tell you their background and that's what i like doing i like learning about people and then building relationships like that and so i met a few people just like in the hallways and stuff who are just interesting you know their parents or something are high up or they're from nashville they own some like real estate and but i really like the students.

[Bobby Bones]

At vanderbilt can you go online classes.

[Diego Pavia]

Now so i have an all online major right now oh yeah that's yeah awesome so i'm really bought into football.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah did they make sure do most.

[Diego Pavia]

Guys do that no actually not from vanderbilt really we got a lot of smart kids on our roster that's what makes that's what makes us elite yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You know why did you choose vanderbilt.

[Diego Pavia]

Well i chose it because at new mexico state our my head coach offensive coordinator safeties coach quarterback coach let me think who else running back coach they took vanderbilt picked about six or seven of our coaches and then they took like four of our players and then so i was like shoot i might as well join them you know and then once coach kill really went to vanderbilt that's when i was like okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I'M bought in whenever you come over or you're thinking about coming over are they like hey diego there's a good shot you can play or is it just you just believe in yourself and go not really knowing i guess not knowing not how to say it but not really having an understanding of where you're going to fit in the depth.

[Diego Pavia]

Chart well there was a quarterback battle going in i kind of scouted that going into it but the starter had just left so i knew the spot was open and there wasn't going to be no favoritism or anything like that and all i asked for going in is because i know there's a lot of politics in the sec and like these big conferences so i told him i'll come if you promise me that it's a fifty fifty shot and the better person will play so you didn't.

[Bobby Bones]

Even ask for the guarantee to start you just wanted a fair shot to.

[Diego Pavia]

Win the job i just wanted a fair shot to win the job what.

[Bobby Bones]

Was the scheme difference offensively from new.

[Diego Pavia]

Mexico to here same thing because the.

[Bobby Bones]

Coaches came there a lot of it were running the same same terminology and.

[Diego Pavia]

Everything same terminology there's a little bit of a twist because of our offensive line coach he coached like lamar jackson at louisville and so we took a slight little twist with that and so i had to learn a little bit but it wasn't too much learning that i had to do did you feel.

[Bobby Bones]

That when you came in you were equal to the guy immediately and i don't know who you were in the quarterback battle with did you guys start at the same place or did you come in a little behind and you.

[Diego Pavia]

Had to catch up i would say i was probably ahead just because i was at new mexico state for a year and a half with the offensive coordinator and stuff so you knew what.

[Bobby Bones]

He was saying yeah what you were.

[Diego Pavia]

Expected to do and i was in the background so i like practice i would go watch practice every single day in the spring because i couldn't practice and like on seven on seven and in team reps i would take my drop back when he said hike i would take my drop back i'd go through my reads and i'd throw the i'd fake throw the ball before like the quarterback would do it so it's.

[Bobby Bones]

Like being on the on deck circle and timing pitches yep you're there taking cuts just you know timing it just mental reps what are you like in.

[Diego Pavia]

The huddle oh i'm i'm real serious in the huddle like once it's business once that clock starts it's all business from there on out and then i try to just get everyone prep give everyone confidence to go into the next play and just succeed if someone misses a block or something you know i'm smacking him on his ass and just tell him hey you got it why.

[Bobby Bones]

Do your guys believe in you i.

[Diego Pavia]

Think they just see that you know i'm not going to go out without a fight like i want to win more than anything else in life like this is all i know all i know is football without football i don't know what i would do do you.

[Bobby Bones]

Like before game to be extremely hype or because we've had other guys come in like mma fighters they don't want to be hyped they want to have good adrenaline but they don't want to be hyped because then they don't react and think the same they want to be as calm as possible where are you before the game starts oh i'm.

[Diego Pavia]

Hyped i'm jumping up and down i'm ready to go you know and then sometimes what's kind of like embarrassing though is sometimes when your energy is too high and then you're just like starting to come down and focus you catch like these yawns that are like really kind of embarrassing and you don't want no one to see us you're like hitting like one of these or something.

[Bobby Bones]

Like that what are the facilities like at vanderbilt and i would like for you to walk back to both schools because i would assume each time was a big come up and it felt.

[Diego Pavia]

Different so from coming from juco we worked out in a tent literally it was squat racks like if you walked out on the on concrete and you were working out in the parking lot we just put squat racks on them and it was a a dome kinda kind of like arizona state's indoor but it was just concrete and we just we squatted in there we benched in there and then sounds like prison i'll.

[Bobby Bones]

Be honest with you that's what it kind of what it sounds like the prison yard with like a little tent.

[Diego Pavia]

Over the top right right it was a military school and the only way that you were able to get like an extra workout in is they had like the pull up bars the dip bars and so at nimi you really couldn't be up at a certain time and i would like sneak out of my room four thirty in the morning and i'm like trying to like creep on the wall so no one would see me and i would go and like work out from like probably like probably get there at four forty five work out till about six and then i had or like five thirty and then come back take a quick shower and be in formation by like five forty five so because it was a military institute yeah and then when when i went to new mexico state it was like oh my god this is heaven you know and obviously you know they had a really actually a really good weight room there but there was like no indoor no grass field and then i come to vanderbilt and i'm like they're serving steak every single day chicken every single day i'm like what like what's going on you know the.

[Bobby Bones]

Nutrition'S a big difference oh the biggest.

[Diego Pavia]

Difference for sure and so you can.

[Bobby Bones]

Get whatever food you want whenever yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Shrimp there's sometimes lobsters i'm not that's what i was i had the same face crazy yeah no and then the desserts are great too so they just.

[Bobby Bones]

Have like chefs cooks always cooking food.

[Diego Pavia]

Always snacks oh dude they have like a thing from this wall to this wall filled with what's your favorite snack.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean i love a lot of fruits i love a lot of cookies so i'm a big fruit and cookies yeah probably yeah they got that yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

They got gushers yeah what's those climb.

[Bobby Bones]

Bars or something and those are anytime one in the morning eight in the.

[Diego Pavia]

Morning eight yeah all day dude they.

[Bobby Bones]

Wouldn'T have anything left we were there dude i know we can't even have a break room oh you should have.

[Diego Pavia]

Saw my sister so my sister came down well we took her to new mexico state obviously there was like just bagels and stuff we go over here she asked for a bag and she's like walking around making sure no one looks just like putting snacks in the.

[Bobby Bones]

Bag we went to auburn and worked out with the basketball team that's what we did we got they had like a trail mixed with m and m's that's the hotter fire yeah so we took those yeah and we were like putting them in our bag so like i understand what your sister was doing.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah yeah no the stuff's expensive too.

[Bobby Bones]

Unlimited anything is awesome oh yeah i.

[Diego Pavia]

Remember i asked for like a protein shake and they took me to the back and there was like stacked to the top like it was costco you know and i remember i took like a protein box just home and i was like i'm the man i would.

[Bobby Bones]

Feel the same way yeah what was your greatest high school game oh shoot.

[Diego Pavia]

So junior junior year i had to actually play jv because of the transfer rule and i would say i probably had maybe six touchdowns in the half and then like i just sat off like the rest of the day so.

[Bobby Bones]

They made you had to play jv and then you just dominated yeah that's.

[Diego Pavia]

Awesome yeah i played freshman i played varsity sophomore year i played varsity and then my junior year i transferred and they made me sit down play jv the whole year yeah the whole year.

[Bobby Bones]

Was that boring oh it was bad.

[Diego Pavia]

You know like it was there was like a crazy play i was playing running back receiver i was just i just like told him hey just throw me the ball real quick and like we had this other kid who played quarterback too and if they drew up the route for him i'd be like hey switch you play quarterback real quick and i would run the route you know and so i would i would run the route but there was one time like i took i took a handoff and i'm running up the left side i curve it back to midway and then like some kid facemas me i come back and score a touchdown and that was the day i had like six touchdowns and a half and so i just like sat on the sideline and it got really boring i wish i was able to play varsity maybe that affected why i didn't get any offers but i'm also from new mexico you know how was your senior year then oh i ended up getting hurt the first game and i had to sit out for like six games but we were eleven and one and we lost in the playoffs like forty nine and fifty six so you missed.

[Bobby Bones]

Your whole junior year well miss it you had to play junior varsity and then you missed a big part of your senior year because of injury yeah so is that why you didn't get the offers at least any division one.

[Diego Pavia]

Offers no i felt like because towards the end i was still playing football and i was still playing really good were you playing quarterback yeah and no i don't think just no one wanted a five ten five eleven quarterback they didn't believe in me so why did.

[Bobby Bones]

You choose to go to what what did you how did you what do.

[Diego Pavia]

You call it new mexico military nimmy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah why did you choose nimmy oh.

[Diego Pavia]

My brother chose it for me really i was thinking about maybe walking on to like a powerhouse maybe like oklahoma obviously baker mayfield was a walk on.

[Bobby Bones]

Twice texas tech and oklahoma exactly and.

[Diego Pavia]

So i was thinking of doing like maybe one of those and it was like literally a week before and then the nimmy offensive coordinator coach kaiser came into my school and was like hey you need to come to nimmy like this is it'll work out well for you we've had five division one quarterbacks in three years it'll be great like you'll have a great opportunity so we kind of and that was when that netflix show last chance you came out and so juco was big at the time and everyone was taking looks at it so i was thinking just all right i'm gonna go juco for a year and then i'll transfer d one and then so when juco went six and four and then we went to the next year we went to the national championship won the national championship and then that's how i ended up in new mexico state did you start to.

[Bobby Bones]

Get other offers other than new mexico.

[Diego Pavia]

State like jeff oh i had i'll tell you when the offers came in so i switched my twitter twitter has all the offers like that's how you get offered nowadays and on my twitter i said i'm from albuquerque new mexico i changed it to tampa florida and then once i changed it literally a week after i started getting offers and started talking to schools it was crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you said you're a florida player and they just respected the florida players.

[Diego Pavia]

More i guess that's how it works you know are you sure they just.

[Bobby Bones]

Didn'T get put on to you right.

[Diego Pavia]

No i don't switched it hey i don't know but once i switched it was like oh now these coaches want to talk to me you know you were a three star no i was a no star you were a no star i was a negative star what sports did you play i wrestled and.

[Bobby Bones]

Played football you weren't a negative star okay is that a real thing so.

[Diego Pavia]

They have you ranked as you wrestled wrestled played football and then i played baseball for two years which sport were you the best at people thought i was the best at wrestling but i believe that i just loved football so.

[Bobby Bones]

Much you love football more yeah way more could you have wrestled in college yeah could you play baseball in college.

[Diego Pavia]

If i would have worked at it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah what coaches had the most impact on your career.

[Diego Pavia]

Jerry kill why what's special about him oh he's hard hat lunch pill he's just different like you just talk to him and he just realizes that you realize that he would never he's never lied to me even at new mexico state i was going through a bad time because i wasn't in the starting lineup we were one in five and it just sucked being one of five like losing just is just terrible and i was like hey like i want to help the team i want to come back i want to go to a bowl game like how can i step on the field again and he told me just you know stop turning the ball over get better in my reads and literally once i stopped turning the ball over and got better my reads he put me back in the starting lineup and like he told the people over there hey play this kid you know just let him be just let him play and so once that happened and he gave me another chance it was blast off to the moon but i respect coach kill because he's never lied to me.

[Bobby Bones]

There have been times where if i were playing a like a celebrity golf tournament we're playing a big course that i can play as a video game i'll get on and play the video game or i have a simulator in my house or i get on and look at the course yeah yeah do you get on can you get on college football or do you have the like that jaden daniels was famous for even doing stuff in the simulator do you have any do you have the ability to do that at all like.

[Diego Pavia]

Look ahead oh well we watch film like so say we play kentucky we watch film already in the kentucky stadium but you don't realize what it is until you actually play in that environment.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean in the stadium.

[Diego Pavia]

Like once once you're in it once you're there like sometimes like auburn's debt perception is kind of different than kentucky's because it just like goes up higher and stuff on the on the walls.

[Bobby Bones]

But so i don't know what you're saying on the walls like like like they digitally put a room around you.

[Diego Pavia]

No no like this is like when you step into the arena okay in real life in real this is real life got it auburn holds like one hundred four thousand kentucky doesn't hold as much sure how much they hold but it's like a whole extra layer you know that goes up so like the depth perception is a little bit off.

[Bobby Bones]

Could you play college football twenty six though and diagnose or like look at coverages they're putting in go okay what would i do here what would i do there yeah have you played with.

[Diego Pavia]

Yourself i've only got to play once and that was at the media days.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you call every defense though even even if you're not good with your fingers on the sticks could you go okay they're going to blitz safety they're you know cover two obviously so we'll look at the hook here yeah i.

[Diego Pavia]

Always do that but sometimes it's the video game's different than real life and so that's why sometimes it's kind of cracked but i also like to mess around on the video game just throw one on one jump balls to eli.

[Bobby Bones]

Well that's what you guys are doing in jv they're just chunking balls widen.

[Diego Pavia]

Me up i try to get him to widen me out how cam newton did yeah at auburn but eli's like man i ain't throwing a jump ball to no five to nine mexican what.

[Bobby Bones]

Quarterback do you watch or did you watch as a kid that inspired you.

[Diego Pavia]

Johnny manziel he was cold he's a that guy is just a different athlete.

[Bobby Bones]

Has he reached out to you at.

[Diego Pavia]

All we talked a few times he's a real cool dude he's just when i watch his tape too he's just he's wired different that's what i really like about him what do you do.

[Bobby Bones]

Right after a game for your body.

[Diego Pavia]

Oh shoot i usually just relax let me think that's a good question you.

[Bobby Bones]

Ever getting that like the the chamber the cold thing the cryo oh the.

[Diego Pavia]

Chirop therapy yeah no we don't have one of those at vanderbilt i probably i just go in the next day they have treatment like at eight in the morning so i always go into there and just i'm big on my legs just making sure those are healthy because my arms are always going to.

[Bobby Bones]

Come with it after the season nfl.

[Diego Pavia]

Aspirations for sure i mean they can't tell the heisman winner that he can't get drafted you know they can't and.

[Bobby Bones]

It'S also you know there have been other five ten five eleven quarterbacks right.

[Diego Pavia]

That have gotten drafted and have played well exactly yeah i haven't i had i actually know more quarterbacks over six foot one who have played i guess less not as good than people under.

[Bobby Bones]

Six foot with coach lee being such a defensive guy do you spend much.

[Diego Pavia]

Time with him oh yeah i ask him a lot of questions about the defense he's like thinking about different types of ways like we see nfl coverages all day and like they'll get to a cover two doing some weird stuff and it's like how are you doing that that's not even a true cover dude it looks like cover three you know but that stuff is just way different just a lot of third down third and long stuff that they get.

[Bobby Bones]

To eddie yeah final question no man it's just awesome having you here i mean my favorite was watching you new mexico because that was like late for us right you know so like after i lost all my bets of the day i'm like all right new mexico so dude it's really cool having you that's funny because those are the games we watch after central time zone after all of our games eastern and central go we're watching like oregon state new mexico you guys are playing later so we can watch those games later i.

[Diego Pavia]

Remember at new mexico state we were like nine and three against a spread or something like that that's pretty eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

You should know that there we go yeah that's why he's watching diego good to see you man really appreciate that.

[Diego Pavia]

Well i appreciate you guys having.

[Bobby Bones]

Did.

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Today now let's get over to minnesota head football coach pj fleck coach fleck has been leading the gopher since twenty seventeen known for his high energy and row the boat phrase coach holds a school record for most bowl wins as head coach with six and he hopes to extend that this week when they play new mexico in the twenty twenty five rate bowl good luck to coach and his team here he is coach pj fleck what up coach bobby bones what's up man there's a lot of things that i do now in the different jobs that i have where i can use ai have we got to the point now where you can just like stick other teams in ai and just see what their tendencies are through.

[Eddie]

A computer program you can i think that we have been doing that for years we've been doing that in a very different way though the analytics have been around for a while but ai has taken it to a completely different level in my opinion but there's still a human element of football remember our product is people apple's product is the iphone the ipad the earbuds and you know like that's the product when you're dealing in a world where the product is is eighteen to twenty two year olds there's still a sense of the human part of it so yes like going forward on fourth and one and having analytics on this and that and what's the book say on this and what's the ai say on that which is fine if it was all robots going out there and playing these are human beings so there's still that human element there's injuries what does your team really do well what do they not do well the type of opponent you're playing what injuries do they have i mean it's crazy it is the most unpredictable sport i think in the entire.

[Bobby Bones]

World have you been to a concert lately at all coach yes love concerts.

[Eddie]

Love concerts what'd you go to well we've been to a few concerts we went to we took the staff last year to bruce springsteen i'm a big fan of bruce we went to a small concert for the tb one f foundation which is a a great friend of ours she's a she's a teenage girl has cancer and unfortunately she's got it for the third time but she had like graham barham in and got to spend some time around graham barum who i thought was absolutely awesome you know having that that oil money song and i'm a big country music fan luke combs riley green i got to see those guys oh gosh what last one kenny chesney in the sphere did you go how would i forget that unbelievable in fact went to the show not necessarily with but met up with matt rule the head coach from nebraska unlv dan mullen the head coach there and we were all at the show kind of together got to be around kenny a little bit he was so gracious matt rule is friends with the guy dan mullen's friends with the guy i'm not friends with him so i was starstruck man i was like hey i met you outside this malibu hotel like five years ago and i was like fangirling man it was crazy i.

[Bobby Bones]

I know kenny relatively well and he invited me out a couple times and i didn't go and i was like i've seen kenny before but that sphere show is it pretty special just that that that venue it is the greatest.

[Eddie]

Entertainment spectacle i think in the world i've seen les mis in london i've done a lot of like things what people say you have to see this show i love concerts i go to a lot of concerts by far the greatest thing i've ever seen you're immersed in the experience i don't think i've had where we were sitting was perfect but i i don't even remember looking at kenny chesney or the stage like it's the only concert i've ever been to where i never looked at the stage you're immersed in this feeling and experience of what kenny chesney is all about the feeling he wants you to feel you feel it i mean it hits your heart your soul it's unbelievable i mean i've never been and heather and i love vegas so it's great but the sphere is unbelievable and kenny put on such a live show what.

[Bobby Bones]

An entertainer all right there he is coach flight good to see you coach.

[Eddie]

Big fan of you bobby thank you very much for having us on the.

[Bobby Bones]

Show thanks coach see you later let's change the sport for the final interview of this episode and our talk with tennessee head basketball coach rick barnes coach barnes spent a decade at tennessee turning them into a consistent contender in college basketball he built his name up with the longhorns where he coached kevin durant we talk about that he just signed a lifetime contract with tennessee here he is coach rick barnes hey coach i was doing a little intel on you i don't want to put my person out but i have a very close friend that is an sec official and i said i want to read you a quote from him i said and this is a very close friend of mine who will come to the house here sometimes in nashville and he doesn't live here though i said what's up with rick barnes what kind of guy is he because he'll tell me because some coaches coach he's like ain't good he said tremendous man on and off the court and i said i'm about to talk with him and he said rick and i have a great relationship and so that's from somebody very close so now that i know you're a tremendous man i'm so excited to talk.

[Rick Barnes]

To you well i appreciate it good.

[Bobby Bones]

To be with you i was living in austin almost the whole time that you were there and then moved to tennessee basically when you moved to tennessee some would say you chased me that's fine that's fine coach you can chase me if you want that's all good but what's the real ut well you.

[Rick Barnes]

Know what when i first got here i don't think i bet you for two or three years when i would go out and meet and speak everybody says welcome to the real ut and obviously their line was hey you know what the line was there would not be a texas if it wasn't for tennessee and so i i got to go with the university of tennessee whenever.

[Bobby Bones]

You leave a school that color because you're in two distinct you went from one very distinct i mean even at clemson distinct colors of the version of the color do you all your burnt orange stuff does it go away for like it's there's that fire sale and then it's all now the the tennessee.

[Rick Barnes]

Orange oh yeah yeah once i you know the colors change people that you know that are there that you were close to i've always said hey come get what you want it's all here getting ready to get a new wardrobe.

[Bobby Bones]

Ties and everything yeah you gotta think it's not even just like the stuff with the logos on it like ties hats everything you have like all things must go so you guys at tennessee have been it's an awesome experience like you guys have a great game day atmosphere now i've been there and i've lost i'm an arkansas guy you guys pounded us it was terrible it was miserable experience but i respected how passionate and how loud those fans were do you feel when you came in that you have amplified the basketball culture there you and your staff i feel that way as outside looking in and where do you guys what do you kind of rank you guys sec wise as far as like arenas well you know.

[Rick Barnes]

I will say this on that every people tell me all the time just how hard it was to play in stokely athletic center back when before they moved into the food which is now the food city center they our fan base here is incredible i mean you think about it we're the only programs in the country that sell out you know women's softball baseball football and basketball and i can tell you this we've had people tell us that they think this is as hard a place plays or anywhere in the country i can i can say the thing same thing about where what you're talking about you're an arkansas fan that walton arena is a tough place to play when that thing's cooking now it is that ceilings low that that that is we sit around a lot and we talk about justin gainey and i and people ask me the question all the time in my lifetime the hardest arenas the loudest arenas to play in and i've always said the loudest arena ever and my coaching career was the old galley the gallagher iba arena before they raised the roof on it that thing when we had some incredible games in there when coach sutton was there and it was so deafening you couldn't even hear if a person was three inches from your face sometimes the old reynolds coliseum at nc state coal field house obviously kansas still has what they have going but there are some places that you that really stood out like that and but when i'm coaching a game i'm kind of oblivious to all that to be quite honest but i have had a lot of people tell me how hard it is to come in here and.

[Bobby Bones]

Play yeah tennessee sucks to play because you guys are so loud i'm biased arkansas but auburn it's small but that's auburn gets loud and because it's so small and right on top of you so there's a dynamic there to where they hold like nine thousand people but that's a loud freaking nine thousand people.

[Rick Barnes]

Right yeah it is i mean that does you know i think about you know ole miss can get going you know i think now you know obviously a lot of people have cut their arenas down you know you go you go out in texas now think about it baylor wins the national championship goes from a ten thousand seat arena to like what a seven thousand eight thousand seat arena texas goes from a seventeen thousand seat arena to a ten thousand seat arena but there's still something to be said about arena that you know two one six seven eight and especially when you fill it up and but they all there's a lot of them that can be loud in some ways obviously but they all have their own really unique personalities what about staying in.

[Bobby Bones]

That box i don't feel like they give you enough room and you know you come out of the box to give you a little warning you feel like that box should be extended a.

[Rick Barnes]

Little bit or what well what i think they ought to do they ought to move the officials where i my my i have the worst seat in the house where i sit on the bench the official but is right in my face the entire game is to stand at the foul line and my my my seat lines foul line and so that makes me have to get up and move but sometimes i will literally he said i'll push him to the side a little bit but that's where they're supposed to be but you know back in the day you know i you know you could walk down as far as i remember when you could walk to half court but you know again it just goes back to where they want to try to feel like they got control of the game and trying to keep people under control.

[Bobby Bones]

When do they hit you though with the tech because i'm assuming they'll say coach do they give you like a quiet warning first a loud warning second like at what level do they go that's too much we've told you twice three times already it depends on each.

[Rick Barnes]

Guy you know back earlier i'll never forget one night when i was coaching the province in the big east and you know coaches and referees you know we all i thought we had pretty good relationships we knew each other but timmy higgins one night who i love to death and did a lot of games and games just started and you know we weren't playing well and i'm getting after him a little bit and next thing i know he comes by me and i said i just yelled out timmy and he turned around he teed me up i looked around i said what and he looked down and i promise you my foot was a half an inch out of the box he looked at me looked down he said you're out of the box and he turned back and i said are you kidding me he said coach i had a bad day today i don't want to hear it you know and that you know thing but you know i go back i think there's guys that referee the game and there's guys that manage the game too and if you ask me what i'd rather have a guy that manages the game or referees the game i'd probably i just want referees to call the rules of the game but they need to manage it too and i think older guys probably are a little bit better at that as they get experience do you.

[Bobby Bones]

Have a person on your staff that whenever you have been triggered so much they go all right coach stop that you actually will listen to not really.

[Rick Barnes]

You know not really i mean if when i get if if i do get going i i'm going to get going you know it's it's really funny i i think i don't remember the last time i did tactical i think i think it was here when john was at kentucky and he got a technical foul and i looked at him and i was laughing because he didn't i didn't think he had done anything and he turned around teed me up like kids because i because i didn't think i'm like what did he do and they teed us both up and that might that's one of the last ones i think i remember that i but you know officials you know i think there's been a lot that has gone into helping officials to learn how to communicate that's the key between games with coaches and referees and the communication level and obviously some coaches are going to get along better with others and vice versa but it's a communication factor that has been you know mike eads who is our supervisor official he has done just an incredible job incredible and i will tell you this i really do respect those officials i was on the rules committee for five years and knowing and learning how hard they work at it have to work at it and it's a really difficult game to officiate that gave me a whole a whole different perspective and but it also helped me because i can i know where they're supposed to be where they're not there i can kind of get at it a little bit but they work at it and they want to get it right that's all i'm going to tell you they do want to get it right it's important to them and back in the day everybody used to feel like it was a part time job for those guys it really isn't those guys you know that money what if they might have another job it still is important to them to help take care of their families and i think you got to respect them because really it's a tough game to.

[Bobby Bones]

Officiate eddie hey coach my first job out of college i was a news cameraman for news eight austin you were head coach at texas and i never did sports really but they sent me out to one of your press conferences because the photographer wasn't available so i go up there and it's the first time i'd ever seen you in person and they had you guys had planted a fart machine under one of the reporter seats so every time that reporter started to ask a question you guys would hit the button and a fart noise would come out and he just couldn't get his question out i thought that was the funniest thing in the world i became a huge fan of yours after that moment after that do you still do that kind of stuff with the media i thought that was.

[Rick Barnes]

So great hey if you want me to get up i'll walk in my locker and i'll get that machine.

[Bobby Bones]

You.

[Rick Barnes]

Remember that coach oh yeah i'm sure i've done worse than that but you know sometimes you just want to have fun doing what you're doing and i'm not sure who it was but i'm sure it was good reason why we put it underneath their chair that's funny.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay final two questions let's talk about kevin durant for a second how how cold was he as a just a.

[Rick Barnes]

Freshman at texas man oh man i could tell you i could tell you stories all day about him i remember you know he's i tell everyone he when you coach a guy like kevin durant he's the hardest worker as he's as hard a worker maybe the hardest worker that we've ever coached he's just an incredible teammate very unselfish all he cared about was winning but you know he just loves being in the gym and he still does even today i mean i mean i he works as hard as now or harder i mean he just loves the game of basketball and so when you coach a guy like kevin and you know he came in and we had lost three guys early to the nba draft and daniel gibson pj tucker and lamarcus aldridge and we were down to three players in our program we signed best recruiting class in the country we had you know kevin and dj augustine damian james and we signed seven freshmen and four of them started but franford shella called me in september he was doing getting ready for the season he says what do you think about your team i said well we're going to start four freshmen and a sophomore and our junior and i don't know how good our team is but i've got the best player in the country he said you mean you got the best freshman i said no i got the best player in the country i said he is the very best player in the country and you know he became the first freshman to win the national oh you know i was i think seven national player of the year awards but he had an incredible game where he kind of broke out we were playing against coach knight at texas tech and is one of those nights where i think he had thirty some points you know maybe twenty rebounds and almost a triple double and game after that we came back a couple weeks later and kevin had we went out there and and he had got he got rolling man he was cooking he was rolling and playing at just an incredible level and texas tech comes back and right before the game you know five minutes before the game you know you're supposed to put your starting lineup in and we had prepared for texas tech to come in and next thing i know they come in as a text changer lineup they're starting to walk on and i'm like what in the world i'm looking there and i and i started thinking you know what they're doing the another good player in the league martin zeno was a really good one on one player and i said by the way they're starting kevin's going to have to match up with him and so coach knight's going to go at kevin with with zeno he's gonna make it and so i told kevin i said look whatever you do you don't even leave the lane you just stand in front of the basket and we jumped on those guys and we were up probably like is something like thirty to five and all at once i hear somebody stomping her foot and i look around coach nice looking down there he looks at me and he calls me a name and starts laughing at me and we're up at halftime by thirty points the second half it took thirty seconds thirty minutes to get the entire half over he went zone and i never seen him goes on and after the game he told me it seemed at halftime he said if anybody fouls we're going to get into two three zone if anybody fouls you're going to walk back to lubbock i want to be out of here and that game was that half was over in thirty minutes but kevin put on and then i i can just remember some of the things he did one of my favorite stories is we go to kansas and place as you know is going and we start that game and kevin durant i'm telling you it's one of the greatest twenty minutes in entire college basketball history and danny manning told me later he was on the bench with bill and i mean we we were running a play that we couldn't guard when carmelo anthony beat us in the final force just in simple isolation but it's up to kd just to pick it apart and every guy on his court has scored a point because he may either made the pass or did something and danny they couldn't stop him i mean he was unstoppable and danny told me that bill looked at him and said what do you think and danny said i looked at bill said bill that's a bad mother but he gave it to him any and every way you.

[Bobby Bones]

Could everybody i know that knows you loves you and so it's really nice to talk to you thank you guys thank you coach see you later.

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Today thanks for listening to this episode and some of our favorite interviews from twenty twenty five at twenty five whistlesports if you want to follow us and leave a comment if you're on spotify leave a comment it helps us helps the algorithm tell your friends appreciate you guys so much have a great week theme song written by bobby bones that's me and performed by brandon ray follow brandon on socials at brandonray music you can follow the show on instagram at bobby bonesports thanks to our crew co host producereddy segment producer ickoffkevin and executive producer ikedistrov but most importantly thank you for listening bobby bones we'll talk to you next time here on twenty five whistles.

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