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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
This is a podcast called 25 whistles. Talk. All wear a whistle.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah, it's stupid. But why did you expect.
Bobby Bones
It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.
Eddie
Sorry, guys.
Bobby Bones
If you heard anybody who yelled football.
Eddie
This guy, the new guy right here.
Bobby Bones
Man, he didn't know. We didn't tell him. So when it's not football season, we have the intro that goes. It's blank. We're talking. And when they all wear a whistle and we yell sports in the middle, and I said, hey, we're not gonna yell sports. We'll do the football one. Which Brandon interpreted as yell football.
Eddie
Yeah, but what an idiot. He recorded the original one.
Bobby Bones
That's Brandon who sings the theme song. Yeah. Yeah. Got him. There he is.
Eddie
Good job.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it is football. We doubled up.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I watched the entire draft last night. Yeah. And most of the time I don't watch all of it. Life gets in the way. But I kind of had a couple extra tokens I could use from just being an awesome husband. And I was just like, I'm just gonna watch the whole draft.
Eddie
Yeah, you gotta reserve those.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't really catch him out of. Stay in the other room. I just didn't. Yeah, I just hid. I hid, basically. So I don't want it to be too much about what's going to happen in the second round. We can say shoulder. Didn't get drafted. Shoulder. And that was weird because it was, where's he going to go? I mean, first it's possible that he would go to Cleveland, but when Cleveland traded out of that spot and Jacksonville ends up giving up everything to get that spot, you're like, well, he's not going to Jacksonville because they have a quarterback. They just paid for a long time. So then you're like, possibly the Giants, but probably not the Giants. And he didn't go to the Giants. So then the Browns were there at 5, and you thought maybe the Browns were trading back because they knew that Chedor would still be there at 5. And so there is some value to trading back a few spots, getting some picks and getting the same exact person later. But when they took Mason Graham, you're like, well, I don't think it's going to be the Raiders because they just paid their quarterback. And that's like a Pete Carroll reunification tour there.
Eddie
Yep.
Bobby Bones
And so you're going, okay, well, let's just look down. I hoped it'd be the Jets. That been hilarious. It wasn't the jets, wasn't the Panthers. They have a quarterback. But it was the Saints at nine that's what they'd been talking about for a long time. But the whispers had then started to be the Saints didn't even really value Shedeur as the next quarterback up. And you're going, really? They may go. And they may go to Ole Miss. It's funny, they call Ole Miss Mississippi.
Eddie
Yeah. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
That was funny because they put on the screen and they do. They put on the screen Ole Miss. But Goodell goes from Mississippi. University of Mississippi.
Brandon
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So. But no, no quarterback at all taken by the Saints. Then you're thinking, well, will it be the Cowboys? And only because they're dumb. That's the only reason.
Eddie
That's funny you thought that.
Bobby Bones
That's the only reason. Because I thought maybe it'll be the Cowboys. Just because they're idiots.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Not because they needed it. They're paying DAG. 50 million a year.
Eddie
That never crossed my mind.
Bobby Bones
But wasn't the Cowboys.
Eddie
Nope.
Bobby Bones
Then you're going, is it the Dolphins two is always hurt. They are paying him a bunch of money. But that backup gets, regardless of who it is, gets a lot of playing time. And I think the ESPN analytics, because I was flipping from ESPN to NFL Network, had it at like 46%. Miami at that point. So Miami ends up going defensive tackle. And you're looking down and you're thinking, either someone's going to trade in at any minute or a quarterback's not going to get taken. Because the Falcons don't need a quarterback. They didn't take a quarterback. The Cardinals don't need a quarterback. The Bengals don't need a quarterback. Seattle, possibly. Okay, no, shitter. The Bucks don't need a quarterback. The Broncos don't need a quarterback. Nobody's trading in. And now it's all coming to the Steelers because we had heard if he lasted a 21, which we didn't think he was going to last to 21 anyway, for sure. The Steelers, Derek Harmon, defensive tackle, Oregon. Oh, crap.
Eddie
I would have bet the farm.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah. On that.
Bobby Bones
So in my mind, I'm thinking probably the Chargers next, because the Charger would have traded that pick is what I would have thought. Because if the Steelers weren't going to get them, it's open market for any of those other teams with the Chargers being next. Now they did and they took. They got that running from North Carolina and then away we went. Packers don't need a quarterback. Vikings don't need a quarterback.
Eddie
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Bobby Bones
There's a trade. And they show the draft room where Shadur is and he's got A huge smile and he's like laughing. What was funny? The funniest thing to me was on ESPN they showed where Shadur was. He's in Dallas.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
There's home and there's a big draft party. But on the screens they have NFL networks draft coverage. They didn't last very long in that room. They cut out of there because they were showing NFL networks on espn.
Joe Flacco
That's who they had on.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's who they were watching.
Eddie
You notice that? I didn't notice that.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Because I saw Rap for and on the NFL Network it was Eisen and Rapaport and. Yeah. So okay, Giants about to get them about to get you there.
Eddie
Here we go, baby.
Bobby Bones
Jackson Dart.
Eddie
What?
Bobby Bones
University of Mississippi.
Eddie
Dude. My favorite is when they show the fans and they're like, what?
Bobby Bones
And there had been a lot of talk that it wasn't going to be Shedeur, but it was like we're hearing. I know it's not the most popular thing to say, but Jackson Dart could go before Shedeur and then Shedeur never went. So by the time you hear this, Shedeur is probably the first pick in the second round. Cleveland or whatever. Because Cleveland, imagine that they're still going to get the quarterback. They almost took as round the first pick in the second round. Wild. And nobody. They don't have to trade that pick. Like if that's what they want, they got it. Nobody can actually trade into it and take it from them. It's crazy. Yeah.
Brandon
And they stocked up.
Eddie
Yeah.
Brandon
The Jaguars trading up and which to say about that.
Bobby Bones
The Jaguars gave up a lot. Yeah. However, the Jaguars GM is like 32 for sure. He trades like I do on Madden. Like he just trades probably the way that I just push. Will they accept this? Will they accept this? What if I add one more? Will they accept this? Will they? And then finally somebody. Yep, trade accepted. And so yeah, they gave up a lot. However, I'm a big believer of taking big swings. He took a big swing and if you miss, okay, you took a big swing and it sucks. But you really don't do big things unless you take big swings. And it's not as if they're going to be any good for the next couple years without big swings. They can slowly rebuild that culture. But that's a four or five year thing.
Brandon
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And they will have to rebuild the culture. But they got a new coach. They now have Travis Hunter. They got a new GM. It's 32 years old. I was watching the interview. He looks like a kid. It's Crazy. Like, for sure. He trades a lot on Madden.
Eddie
Oh, for sure.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah. That's how he practices.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I watched the whole thing. I thought it was fun. Whenever the Eagles traded up one spot.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
That was in the first round, just to make sure. But they traded up with the team that went one spot behind them, where it's almost like you call Kansas City and you go, hey, are you going to take John Campbell?
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
No. All right, then we're going to be good and sit here. But they were like, we don't trust you. Yeah, trade us and we'll give you a fifth round. And so they trade up one spot and they got him. Think about him was he was like 12th, 13th, 14th on all the boards. But he had. He was hurt. Yep. Because he's so good. The Eagles, it seems like every year, have somebody fall for character reasons or injury reasons, then end up being awesome. Because that culture there, either A, they heal up or B, and the Eagles.
Eddie
Already, like, as a fan base, have character issues.
Bobby Bones
Well, or. Or B, that culture corrects them, Right? Yeah.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Like, you don't go into. You can't really go into that place to be an idiot because they'll whoop you. They'll whoop it out of you.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So I thought for the most part, it was a pretty fun draft because you just didn't know. The whole time, I kept thinking the Cowboys were going to draft golden from Texas.
Eddie
That's what I wanted, man. That receiver. That would have been great. But you know what, though? I'm happy with this pick. We needed someone to take Zach Martin. Zach Martin's place.
Bobby Bones
You're not happy with the pick.
Brandon
No.
Bobby Bones
You're happy with now when you look. You wanted.
Eddie
We want flashback Matthew Golden.
Bobby Bones
You said you get annoyed when they draft.
Eddie
I want a genty. And then I wanted Matthew golden. And then Scatter Boo after that. But Scatter Boo will be around. I think we have three picks in the seventh round, so maybe we get scattered.
Brandon
You'll definitely draft a running back. There's a lot of them.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Heavy running back draft. Yeah. I. You weren't happy last night, but I think you'll be happy. It's like a sexy investment.
Eddie
Sure.
Bobby Bones
Didn't know much about investments, but when I'm like, ooh, let's do a restaurant that's a wide receiver. Or you're like, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be cool. But if someone's like, actually, the S P480, you know, you could do this. And it Goes up one point. I'm like, that sounds so boring. Okay. And then like three years later, you're like, the restaurant out of business, it's boarded up or it's a daycare now. Your S&P 800 has actually made you money. Yeah. Like that's what you guys did. You invested in whatever that is.
Eddie
I know, but there was an interview that he did afterwards with Michael Parsons couple other Cowboys and dude, it was so awesome. They asked him like, you know about. He's always said that he loves taking the, the love out of people's eyes when he plays football. And they're like, what does that mean? Did you hear this?
Brandon
Yeah, I saw that one hilarious slay too.
Bobby Bones
What.
Eddie
What does that mean? And he goes, he goes. He's like, football's a child sport. Like it's, you know, you wake up in the morning, you excited to play the game. And he's like. And I took so much, so much love out of playing these guys and watching the game. Start with them loving the game of football and in the middle of the game, them looking like they hate the football. And I was like, yes, that's what I'm talking about. That's what the Cowboys need.
Bobby Bones
You'd be a terrible juror. Eddie would shift on every single thing. Cuz he was all upset. Now he's like upset.
Eddie
I was disappointed, but then after I saw that interview, I'm like, this is cool. And he's the third Tyler on the offensive line, which is going to get confused.
Bobby Bones
Well, you're justifying a lot of ways to like this.
Brandon
You know, he's really good.
Bobby Bones
He's a guard. Guards usually don't get drafted that early. Tackles are much more valuable because of how athletic they have to be defending the edge because those ends have the ability. But yeah, no, Booker's awesome.
Eddie
Let's go.
Bobby Bones
So, yeah, good job, Cowboys. As a non Cowboy fan, I think that was a good pick by the Cowboys.
Eddie
Yeah, you have clearer eyes than we.
Bobby Bones
I can understand why I'm in a cowboy group chat, which I don't want to be in. They put me in. I can't get out.
Eddie
I don't even respond to that. Cowboys group chat.
Bobby Bones
They were all like, oh, or. Or nothing for a long time after the pick because it was all leading up to it. Memes and pictures. And then I wrote on there, the crowd goes mild like they said nothing, they said nothing.
Joe Flacco
What does everybody else think?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So a pretty good draft. I mean, Cam Ward, obviously, we knew he'd go number one. Travis Hunter we knew would probably go number two. We just thought it'd be to Cleveland. Abdul Carter. It kind of was the way we thought. It just wasn't all the teams that we thought. I did. I've had two bad betting losses in the past two days, though.
Eddie
Did you bet on the draft?
Bobby Bones
Well, only I only made one bet. I mean, I've lost like 1300 in the last two days. Oh, man. I'll tell you my two bets specifically.
Eddie
Are you good?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'm rich.
Brandon
You need a loan?
Bobby Bones
I'm okay. I don't like it. I mean, it sucks. It's not, like, fun to lose, but. No, I appreciate that.
Eddie
We're here for you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Yeah.
Eddie
I got about 20 bucks altogether.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I bet the other night when Golden State was down, like 18 to the Rockets, bro, they were at minus. Oh, no, there's Golden State plus eight and a half going into half. And I was like, oh, for sure. They may not win this, but they're going to end up getting. And so I put.
Eddie
Wait, wait, you said for sure?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
Eddie
It almost gets me when I say for sure.
Bobby Bones
I'm like, for sure.
Brandon
Golden State does it.
Bobby Bones
Golden State, they may not win, but they'll climb within eight points. And they didn't actually. They lost bad. That's about 15. So I lost 500 bucks on that one. And in my account, I think I had 1300 bucks. And so I bet Ashton Gent, did he go fifth overall last night? The rest of it, like 700, 7:30 or something. And he went sixth. And that was only because the order changed.
Eddie
And that's crazy. That's close.
Bobby Bones
I think it was. I. Look at that again. What do you still. Oh, yeah, Because Cleveland popped into that five spot.
Eddie
It did.
Bobby Bones
Because the deal was Jacksonville at five wanted to take him. And if Jacksonville would have been at 5, they would have taken him. But Jacksonville traded up to the two spot, so I think had that trade not happened, I would have hit.
Eddie
Yeah, Browns, we went down to five.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So, hey, Ooble Dubadon.
Eddie
I know, but that live NBA dude, that's tough.
Bobby Bones
I didn't watch the game. I fell asleep and I woke up and I was like, oh, let me count my monies. Oh, God.
Eddie
You know what? That was funny. You said this today, too. You're like, man, I want to sleep, dude. The Grizzlies won and Shador got picked. No, none of that happened.
Bobby Bones
Well, I didn't think should I got picked, but I did think the Grizzlies won because we were talking about it on the show.
Eddie
Oh, I watched that whole game too.
Bobby Bones
They were up by 20 or something.
Eddie
Chet just started draining threes in the second half and it was over. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And I had just assumed it was two one because we did the YouTube video with Ray to see if I was gonna buy him tickets to the game. I was, hey, it's two one. And I was like, no, no. Like, oh, my God, they lost again. I knew jaw got hurt.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But it was like. It was like a 20 point lead. Yeah. 29.
Eddie
Crazy. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Thunder up three zero.
Eddie
Hey, I called it. I'm just joking. I'm not gonna say that yet. I'm not gonna say that yet. Wait till round two. But it is fun, though. It is fun now that, like, I'm.
Bobby Bones
Rooting for the Thunder, but there's a bonus to me now if they don't win.
Eddie
Are you rooting more for Thunder or me and a thong?
Bobby Bones
Thunder. But there is a consolation, which is you have to pay off the bed. I think it'd be awesome if Thunder 1. I just. I've been playing 2K a little bit. Not online, but just myself. Because sometimes I wake up like two in the morning and there's a breaking point of when I wake up and when I try to go back to sleep and when I wake up and I just can't go back to sleep because then I'm messed up. Because there's a certain level of nap that just messes my brain up. So there's a breaking point. It's like 2:45. If I wake up before 2:45, I'll try to go back to sleep. If I'm up 3:10, 3:20, I'm just up because I'm gonna wake up the next hour and a half anyway. So I started to play 2K25 just against the computer. So I built a team and I grabbed the Thunder. That would be my favorite NBA team. Even though I don't really have a favorite, but it's my favorite NBA Current Thunder.
Eddie
All time Thunder.
Bobby Bones
Current Thunder. Because it's the season and I traded Chet. He sucks.
Brandon
Wow.
Bobby Bones
I don't know what to do with him. Really? Yeah, because he's a fine three point shooter, but he's not quick enough. I just don't know how to use him on the game. He was like a 90 overall. I traded him.
Eddie
Who did you trade him for?
Bobby Bones
Amen Thompson and another draft pick. So I got rid of Chet. He sucks on the game. And he also couldn't post people up. They push him around. Skinny As a rail I'd be a terrible general manager.
Brandon
You are the Jaguars.
Bobby Bones
I played like two games and I was like, I gotta trade Chad. I'm out of here. So they're all scared of you. So that's what's up. I want to play. I found this on TikTok. It was hilarious to me. I think it translates audio wise but it's a compilation of the worst draft reactions of all time from the last decade and it was posted by Skimma Skvi on TikTok and what it is they'll say and the so and so draft. So and so. And the crowd gets all pissed off but it ends up being great. Like a great decision. The crowd had no idea. Yeah, they'd have a time machine obviously.
Brandon
Right.
Bobby Bones
I think this translates. Go ahead, hit it, Mike. The Buffalo Bills select Josh Allen. Vikings went with Justin Jefferson. I am kind of unhappy with that. The Houston Texans select J.J. watt. I hate it. Philadelphia Eagles select Jalen hurts quarterback. That has to be the stupidest thing.
Kevin Martin
I've ever seen in my life.
Bobby Bones
Patrick Mahomes Really? This is why this organization will never win a Super bowl in my lifetime. That's great. That's hilarious, right?
Eddie
So funny.
Bobby Bones
I'm glad I translated because I'm watching it going we have no idea. Even us, even the experts because either Kuiper is going to be Mr. Genius in five years from this draft or he's going to be the biggest idiot because as soon as the draft starts they're like Mel Cam's not your number one quarterback. He's like it is not. It's Shadur Sanders and it's like a nine minute American Idol highlight package like all about shock. Number one. Number one. And so either he will look like a genius for this or not but the the way to win these as a Kuiper who's an analyst, us who just say stupid stuff. We don't know anything is just to be compelling and interesting. It's not to be right. And I think a lot of times people get those confused like well look how wrong he was. The joke's kind of on you because if they were wrong, it was memorable by how they were wrong and they still exist in whatever the zeitgeist of sports media is when they do the cowherd like how wrong he is at times. The dude talks for three hours a day, four hours a day, five days a week. Just numbers wise. You're going to be wrong a lot. But he's very compelling and even he said that to me. He's like, it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong. Like, just be interesting. And so Howard said that, too. Yeah.
Eddie
That's cool.
Bobby Bones
And so Flex, he wasn't. He was saying it in a conversation we were having.
Eddie
That's awesome.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And that's how I feel about all the stuff that we do on this show or whatever. We don't. We're not experts anyway. We're people who just love sports. But even on the big show, like, I say all kinds of stuff that's not right, and sometimes I correct it. Sometimes I'm like, ah, who cares? Most time I try to correct it if it's something that needs to be corrected. But, yeah, we're wrong a lot better. Draft reactions, they were really wrong.
Eddie
I mean, that Josh Allen, we were all like, what? Who is Josh Allen?
Bobby Bones
Even after year one, I think we were still like, yeah, so even in the NFL for a year, we were.
Eddie
Like, I don't know about this, but we're all idiots.
Bobby Bones
I do want to play Michael Parsons because Micah Parsons was live streaming, like, his podcast Bleacher Report thing last night, and they had the camera on him when the Cowboys were drafting their pick. And so Michael Parsons is watching, and they end up drafting Tyler Booker from Bama, the guard. And so, baby, Bleacher Reports deleted the clip. Yeah. Which is hilarious.
Eddie
Oh, he said, but they say something bad.
Bobby Bones
No, no. But I'll just play it for you. Go ahead. And the Dallas Cowboys are selecting Tyler.
Eddie
Booker, Offensive lineman from Alabama is the.
Bobby Bones
Official pick out of the Crimson Tide.
Craig Melvin
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I am. Hold up. I am excited about this pick.
Eddie
Hey, it might be a great player.
Craig Melvin
But we just laughing at it. Hold on, hold on. I am excited about the pick. This guy is a beast. He is a beast. And I look at him and Tyler Smith, guard on guard. With Zach Martin leaving, this is one of them picks. I mean, wow. He is a beast. He is a beast. I just wanted to see that on my side of the ball. That's it. But this guy's a beast. I'm not mad at the pig because.
Bobby Bones
When they said his face goes.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
But I believe him. I think he just wanted.
Eddie
Totally.
Joe Flacco
He wants some help.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Because he doesn't have much help. It's just him.
Joe Flacco
Not anymore.
Bobby Bones
Seriously, He. He was deflated.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
They were like, oh. And he goes, no, no. It's because I thought it was gonna be hell.
Brandon
He's just like Eddie and other. Every other Cowboys fan.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Brandon
You know, at first you're like, and then you're like, oh, okay.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
Brandon
Actually, he's all right.
Eddie
The highlights. And you're like, okay.
Bobby Bones
You gotta convince yourself he wanted. We all want help, but that there will be help. That's help for the offense.
Eddie
Yes. And it's coming.
Bobby Bones
We got more rounds and offense scores more points. He gets more chances to rush the quarterback. More sacks because they're always having a little more rest, having to throw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt that, though. So we have Joe Flacco coming up. Pretty excited about that. Really good interview. In just a second we can talk about DraftKings. I gotta get back in the mix.
Eddie
Oh, yeah, reload. You're good. Dude.
Bobby Bones
I never want to reload for the sake of losing.
Eddie
What do you mean?
Bobby Bones
I had two big losses. I don't want to reload just to make my money back. I gotta reload. I get my head straight.
Eddie
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
So take some time. A little bit.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Get your head straight. 30 minutes from now.
Bobby Bones
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Eddie
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Bobby Bones
Now it's time for our talk with Joe Flacco, NFL quarterback, Super Bowl 47 MVP playing with the Browns. Now, I bet you he was watching last night going, don't picture her. Don't picture.
Brandon
He just seems so unfazed in every way.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, Flacco just goes with the. I agree. I think he's just been through.
Brandon
But yeah, to your point, I'm just surprised he's already signed with the team.
Bobby Bones
I mean, I think he'll. He'll start.
Brandon
Oh, he should.
Bobby Bones
I mean, unless Kenny. I mean, Kenny Pickett's probably not. I don't know what. I don't know what they're going to do if they're tank, they'll start Pickett and Flacco will be the backup in case Pickett gets hurt. If they actually want to win some games. Yeah, Flacco will probably be the starter. I imagine that Browns will draft Shedeur first overall.
Eddie
I would think so.
Bobby Bones
And I hope this doesn't get played back in a compilation of, like, wrong things Bobby said. Yeah. Joe signed with Cleveland this offseason. And we'll turn to the Browns, where He played in 2023 when he won comeback player of the year. You know who he beat for comeback player of the year? Yep. A guy who died.
Brandon
DeMarcus.
Bobby Bones
That's right.
Eddie
Yes, he died and came back to life.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, he played for the Ravens for 10 years. Played for the Broncos, jets and Colts since. Joe Flacco. Pretty pumped about this. Here he is. Hey, Joe. Appreciate the time. I wanted to start talking about these cleats because, like, I get hurt a lot and I'm not even playing football. Like, I play pickleball and get hurt at this point. Like, I used to be, like, kind of an athlete, but. So these. Is it Caddix cleats? Is that what it is?
Kevin Martin
Caddocks cleats? Yeah. What do they do? Well, listen, the biggest thing they do is they kind of blend performance and injury prevention all in one cleat. It's all the technology is all in the soul, all in the actual cleat. It kind of moves around a little bit, and it just basically, like, allows a little bit of release when you're planting. So as. As opposed to sometimes when you can kind of get caught and hyper extend your limbs and kind of, you know, have too much traction, this allows for a little bit of a release so that not as much energy is kind of moving up through your body, but it's really cool. I feel really fortunate to be able to kind of be a part of it and wear them. Last year and kind of had that.
Bobby Bones
Whole experience, you feel like they helped, like, for real.
Kevin Martin
Listen, I think the biggest thing is, is, you know, that the technology is reducing the risk. Now as far as the athlete goes, as far as I go, I just went out there and wore them like any other pair of cleats. I will say they're very comfortable. They tend to break in very quickly and be a little bit easier on all your joints. But ultimately, for me, it's like I'm wearing another pair of cleats that I've loved my whole life, bro.
Bobby Bones
I got to get some of these. We do a show, too. We travel around and, like, work out with colleges and NFL teams, like an interview, and I end up. I end up hurting something every time because it's all I want to get up. Which, by the way, they're doing a thing now. Caddocks is partnering with NFL alumn Health during this week's draft to give away a free pair of their cleats. And you can go to nflalumnihealth.org or go to caddx.com c-a----I x.com my partner that I work with a lot is Matt Castle, who played in the league for a long time. And he talks about once he started to be a bit older and he had dealt with injuries that the hardest part was not not getting injured, it was bouncing back. Because as you get older, it's harder to bounce back at your stage. Right now is that the hardest part is when something hurts, does it take longer to heal?
Kevin Martin
I think you gotta make sure that you get to the point where nothing, you know, you minimize the amount of build up that happens. Obviously throughout the course of a game, you're going to deal with acute injuries that you have to try to heal from as quick as possible. But I think for me, as I get a little bit older, it's just that maintenance routine. It's getting a good routine so that little things don't turn into big things. And, and when I was younger, you kind of run through those little things in a week. And now that I've turned 40, they kind of build up, they don't go away. And before you know it, you're hurting a lot more than you want to.
Bobby Bones
Does it hurt after every game or is there an occasional game where you're like, you look down, you're like, ah, I'm okay.
Kevin Martin
That's the beauty about playing quarterback is that yes, you do look down after some games and say, oh, wow, I came out of that one great. And you don't really deal with anything. The other, the other 10, 11 guys on the field, the other 21 guys on the field, when you're, when you're out there, they are dealing with it week in and week out. I would say that I have it easy as, you know, as it comes to the NFL standard.
Bobby Bones
Why are you still playing? You love it.
Kevin Martin
I better love it if I'm doing this. Yeah, yeah, I listen, I have one thing, maybe, maybe, hopefully a couple more than one thing, but one thing that I really, really enjoy doing, one thing that I feel like I can really do at a high level. And I, I've never really thought about not doing it. I've been able to do it since I've been a kid and I kind of just want to keep that dream alive. I still feel like I can do it at a high level and have a lot of fun doing it. So yeah, that's kind of why I still do it. It's kind of a weird question to talk about, but it's a lot of fun and I do love it. I. I love being in that locker room with all the players. I love being in the huddle, get before. Before game time. I wouldn't say that I'm totally in love with that, but when you don't have that for a few months, you realize that you miss it and it's just something that's pretty special.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Just eyeball testing you, you look good. Like, even with the jets, you're like, man, Flacco still got it. Like when you had to play. So if you weren't like telling us that you were 40 or if the media wasn't all the time, like Flaco's 38, Flaco's 39. I don't think you like you. You. It's almost like Adrian Peterson, when he got hurt. Everybody was then, oh, wow, we can bounce back quicker or AP did. Brady's playing in his 40s. The guys are playing in the 40s a little more. If it's technology, if it's health, if it's education about, you know, what to do to their body, but I feel like you don't play like I would think a 40 year old should play. Like, do you feel like taking care of your body has really paid off at this point in your career because of that?
Kevin Martin
I do. I don't know if I do anything special, but I think I've been consistent through the course of my career. I figured out probably within the first three or four years that I need to. I need to come up with a routine and, and make it important to me to kind of stay in shape and get stronger. And I think that the fact that I've been able to stay consistent is kind of what's allowed me to keep going. Obviously, you have to get lucky along the way too. I've dealt with a little thing, a couple little things here and there where maybe I haven't felt 100%, but I think that routine has kind of allowed me to get back to where I. I could feel good.
Bobby Bones
Is it weird to play for a new team and you've done it a couple times, but when you're a Raven forever and you go in the first time, put on a different color and you look in the mirror, is that weird?
Kevin Martin
It was. The first time I did, it was definitely strange and I was a little bit nervous about it. I was kind of. I kind of felt like the New kid in class and, you know, walking into a locker room for the first time and who's the first person you're going to say hello to? Is it going to be awkward, you know, kind of having all those weird feelings that you don't know why you're getting when you're. When you're an adult? But I think after I did it, you kind of realize that there's a lot of similarities in every locker room. We're all kind of working towards that common goal, and we've kind of been doing it our whole lives. So there's a lot of similarities that you see from locker room to locker room, and there's always great guys that you connect with and can have a lot of fun with.
Bobby Bones
So what about Stefanski? What is it about him that brought you back and then brought you back again?
Kevin Martin
I think Kevin's, you know, a really good play caller, and I think his demeanor in general is very good for running a team. The way he's kind of able to, you know, stay himself and. And be the same person throughout the year, kind of no matter what's going on. I think he's been tested. You know, he's had some success, and he's had some seasons where they haven't won as many games as. As they've wanted to. And I think that that can really kind of sharpen who you are as a person and make you come out better on the other side. And I think that's what he's been able to do.
Bobby Bones
Can you give me a memory from when the lights went out in the Super Bowl? Because that was weird for us. I can't imagine you're freaking playing in the super bowl and it all goes down like, what. What are you guys even talking about when that happens?
Kevin Martin
And I remember sitting on the bench and kind of the lights go out, and you kind of just look around like, what the heck is going on? I wish I had more memories of it. It's funny because after the game, everybody kind of started expressing to me what they. What they thought, and some people were scared. I mean, I had a lot of friends and family that were nervous as what was going on, and thankfully for me, that never really crossed my. My mind. I kind of just took it for what it was. Sat on the ground, stretched out a little bit. You know, you think it's going to be two or three minutes. You don't realize it's going to be 20 or 30 or however long it was. So I think if I had to guess how my Mindset was it was probably taking it like every two or three minutes, thinking it was going to, they were going to come back on and we were going to get right back to it.
Bobby Bones
Playing at Pittsburgh and college and then Delaware. Like, to me that's cold weather. Oh, sounds terrible. But you've played in cold weather places in the NFL for the most part too. Is that even a thing? Do you even get cold or is that just normal?
Kevin Martin
There's definitely things about that that are not ideal. I think you just, you put that big coat on, you sit on the heated bench and you deal with it for the five, ten minutes that you're, that you're not sitting on that bench. But we got it, we got it pretty easy. The fact that we got guys waiting for us on the sideline to throw a big coat over us and sit on a, you know, 100 degree warming bench. When you're out there playing, you're honestly not thinking about it. It's like the first 30 seconds that you take that coat off that you're thinking, what the hell am I doing? Or pre game, pregame warmups are actually probably more miserable in the game because you're like, do I want to even go out there and warm up or do I just want to kind of hang out in the locker room and say, say I'm good, I'll be ready to go once the game starts and it warm ups.
Bobby Bones
Probably no adrenaline, right?
Kevin Martin
Yeah, exactly. You're not, you're just like, I'm not playing the game. Why am I going to go out there and do it to myself when I don't? So it's a little bit harder mental hurdle to get to get out there.
Bobby Bones
For pregame at the height of your career or when you will say your arm was the healthiest, it may even be now. You ever just chunk a ball to see how far you could throw a ball?
Kevin Martin
You know, I used to, when I was in college, like when I was in late college, early, early part of my career in the NFL, I was probably more interested in seeing how far I could throw it and doing some long toss. These days I just kind of do it to keep my arm in shape. I'm not necessarily super worried about where I can throw the ball through the uprights from when, even when people ask me, I always used to say, like, I can probably, I could throw it around 75 yards. I don't, I don't know, maybe give or take a few yards here and there.
Bobby Bones
So 80, 85.
Kevin Martin
I honestly, if I could touch 80 I would probably say 80. I don't think I've ever thrown a football 80 yards. Unless I, unless I was down on the Jersey shore on the beach with the 40 mile an hour winds, I wasn't throwing the ball 80 yards.
Bobby Bones
So that's a good point because if I'm lying about driving a golf ball, I never lie short. I always. Or, or I always estimate a little long. It's like what are you y.265 average. And really it's not that. So I guess. Right, yeah, that's a good point. When did you realize in your youth that you had a really strong arm?
Kevin Martin
I guess growing up on the schoolyard just kind of playing two hand touch. I could always throw that little ball that, you know, the little peewee ball that kind of everybody plays with. I think, you know, we might have had a Minnesota Vikings or probably a Philadelphia Eagles rubber football that we could kind of. I could throw the length of the schoolyard and nobody else could really do that. So you kind of figure, all right, maybe I could throw the ball a little bit.
Bobby Bones
When these guys are getting ready for draft day, draft night, if it's night one or second round or third night, like what was your draft night like?
Kevin Martin
So I was sitting on my couch at my parents house. I really didn't want to let cameras in because I was unsure about where I was going to be picked and just kind of wanted to be more private in general. But obviously I got talked into, you know, allowing them to come into the house and I was just kind of sitting on the couch and waiting to see what happens. And we were all watching the draft, excited and kind of eager to see what was going to happen. But coming from Delaware, I didn't know if I was going to be. There was a lot of momentum probably behind where I was going to be picked. I felt like I was probably going to be picked decently high. But I could have been a first round pick, I could have been a third round pick. I had no idea. So I was a little bit, I was excited obviously because at that point I didn't really care where I was going to be picked. I knew that I was going to be an NFL draft pick and I think that was the most exciting thing. But yeah, there's probably a little bit of uncertainty in my mind too because you just don't know where you're going to go and where you're going to spend the next. You, you know, you plan on spending the next 15 years of your life probably wherever you end up getting picked. So it was, you know, definitely, definitely a little bit of mixed feelings about where that could be.
Bobby Bones
Who called you?
Kevin Martin
Ozzy called me. Ozzy called me and I think they were. I think they traded up with Houston, I want to say. And he said, hey, Joe, we're about to, you know, we're about to trade up here with Houston into the 18th pick and, and select you to become a Baltimore Raven. And, you know, obviously, like, the whole room that I was sitting in kind of went nuts because they were, you know, they realized I was on the phone call and I was kind of giving them a head nod or whatever I was doing to let them know, like, hey, it's about to happen.
Bobby Bones
How much sleep do you try to get a night right now?
Kevin Martin
Yeah, we're gonna pivot into health, man. I gotta tell you, there was a time where, like, my kids were younger and we could actually enjoy, like three hours on the couch, me and my wife by ourselves, from like 7:30 to 10:30 or 11:00, 11:30, whatever we wanted to do, you know, we could put those kids to bed. But now my kids are getting older. They complain about bedtime every night. It's getting pushed, you know, further and further back. And I'm usually knocked out on the couch at 9:00 and then at 10:15, I'm waking up with my wife going back to bed, and I'm sleeping till 6:36, 45 every day.
Bobby Bones
So is there a. You get to a game? Because there are mornings. If I'm either doing the show or if I'm. Even if I'm touring, doing stand up, I just have brain fog some days. And if I sleep, maybe something I ate. You ever get to the game day and you're like, man, like, I'm just not fully there and you have to go, all right, guys, my brain's not clicking the right way. I need you to, like, help me out a little bit.
Kevin Martin
Listen, there's times, yeah, I don't know about my brain, but your body definitely wakes up a little bit tired sometimes. And listen, it's not ideal for us. We're waking up, even if most of the time, even if you're. You're at home, you're waking up in a hotel, you don't get to sleep in your own bed. And definitely if you're on the road. And honestly, I'm not great at falling asleep and sleeping well in a hotel, I usually can kind of turn my mind off and not worry about anything. And I'm the same way the night before the game. I'm not really thinking about it. It. I feel like if I do have things on my mind, I can actually relax and go to bed and kind of put it out of my mind. But just a night's sleep in a hotel, I've never quite gotten used to it, so there's always probably a little bit of that.
Bobby Bones
Three final questions that leads me to that. So do you stay at home? Do you stay in the same hotel room in the same bed to at least have some sort of consistency?
Kevin Martin
Man, I've been all over the place the last few years. I have no idea. That's a good point. I think typically, yes, you're in the same room all year, like in Baltimore. Less.
Bobby Bones
Same room.
Kevin Martin
Same room. Same room.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I'd want same room, same bed, same channels. I want on channel four when I get there, like in the hotel. I want to have some sort of consistency. What's the goal this season?
Kevin Martin
The goal this season is to kind of become part of the team, first of all, and then not, you know, I. I obviously have some expectations in my mind, but try not to worry about those things. Just want to go out there and compete and. And hopefully be the guy that's on the field this year and helping a team win some football games.
Bobby Bones
So my last question is the video that went viral of you on the airplane when they call you and you're putting your bags up in the overhead, and it's like this Joe Flacco. And that's kind of how everybody knew. What'd you think about that?
Kevin Martin
I guess I was surprised, but I think in this day and age, there's always the chance that something like that's going to happen. Obviously, I'm on a flight to Cleveland in the middle of the season, and we on the flight with people from Cleveland. So they're probably thinking if. If they recognize me, they're probably thinking, oh, my God, what's he doing here? Maybe they're looking to get him. And I was. I think I was in the back of the plane, so people probably thought that was funny and just kind of random shot of me. It's. It's never the most flattering thing when you're just kind of taking. Getting. Getting candid shots taken of you in the middle of a Runway, you know, in the middle of a walkway on. On an airplane. But, hey, I think it's all. It's all good. It kind of created some. Some. Some positive vibes and, you know, got everybody excited for whatever reason and, you know, gotta love that.
Bobby Bones
Well, I'm rooting for you, man. I'm a fan. I've been a fan. So congratulations. And again, these cleats, Caddocks go over to nflalumnihealth.org or caddocks.com that's super cool. And Joe, we appreciate the time and I hope you have a wonderfully healthy season, man. Thank you for spending some time with us.
Kevin Martin
No, I appreciate it. You guys have a good one.
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Bobby Bones
Had somebody ask me my favorite football players of all time, and I was like, I don't know. I'm not eight.
Eddie
That's tough.
Bobby Bones
That's tough. And I, not disrespectfully, I was like, I don't know my favorites would be ever. So I made my list and I told Eddie to make his two. So do you have 10 through one of all time?
Eddie
Dude, it was the easiest list I ever made. Easiest list ever made in my life.
Bobby Bones
I got to like four or five, and then I had to start going, who do I even like? Because I have a favorite team.
Eddie
Yeah, see, that's where. That's where it helps me a lot.
Bobby Bones
All right, number 10 on your list.
Eddie
Number 10. Okay, so the lowest. Joe Montana.
Bobby Bones
Should we start at 1 or 10?
Eddie
I'd say 1, because Joe Montana is like, kind of like I had to throw him down there because I cannot put him up any. Any more than that. So let's just go. Let's go.
Bobby Bones
1. You do your favorite first. Okay. Favorite player of all time, Emmett Smith, baby.
Eddie
I mean, come on.
Bobby Bones
Did you get a picture of you and Emmett?
Eddie
I did. Got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Reed gave me a picture of me and Emmett and you know, the conversations that we had, the fact that he said, like, Eddie's not a good athlete because I had broken my arm. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he's nice because somebody had asked, like, eddie, what happened to your arm? He's like, don't ask him. He's just not an athlete. He's an idiot.
Bobby Bones
It's pretty cool. You got to meet your favorite dude.
Eddie
That's so freaking.
Bobby Bones
Because I haven't got to meet my favorite. And I'll tell you mine in a minute. In real life.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But favorite football players of all time, Emma Smith, number one. Number two.
Eddie
Troy Aikman. Hall of Famer Troy Aikman.
Bobby Bones
Now, these are cowboys.
Eddie
Just. Just. Just wait for the list.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Quarterback Troy Eggman.
Eddie
Yeah. Number three.
Bobby Bones
Why Troy Aigment? Just because he was the quarterback when they're winning.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Dude.
Eddie
Troy Eggman brought me so much happiness.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Eddie
Three, Michael Irvin. Number 88. The king of number 88. He's the original O.G. well, maybe Drew Pearson was, but for as long as I remember.
Bobby Bones
He's your number 88.
Eddie
He's my 88.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Eddie
And four, DeMarcus Ware.
Bobby Bones
I mean, did you ever meet DeMarcus?
Craig Melvin
I did.
Bobby Bones
I introduced him at the game. Right.
Eddie
Cowboys. At the Cowboys game.
Bobby Bones
He's a monster.
Eddie
And he's like, you have his number, right?
Bobby Bones
Like, oh, yeah. We text sometimes.
Eddie
That's pretty cool.
Bobby Bones
But we have a relationship because we had trauma bonding. We did dancing with Stars together.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And then we would go train together in the same room sometimes. And he was in my final dance. Like, you ask your friends if sometimes you do, they'll be like, hey, you want to be in the final dance? Sometimes people just want to show off their dance move. I didn't. I just wanted to, like, get through it. And so I asked him, mark. I said, hey, do you want to be in my final dance? He was like, yeah. And he lifted me above his head in the dance. He's awesome. Like, great guy, but a monster. Him barreling down on you as another human. You see that guy that big, that fast, hitting you that hard on the football field.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Wow. Crazy.
Eddie
It's funny you say that, because. Yeah, the. On the dance, on the stars. Funny. He picked you up. But then also, when you saw him in person, he hugged you and picked you up. So he's kind of that thing, like. Which is awesome because, like, you're my best friend. And then I love DeMarcus Ware. And he came. He's like, Bobby Bones. And he picked you up. I'm like, dude, that is so freaking cool. Bobby knows him like that.
Bobby Bones
He's so lovable. Like, such a wonderful guy. I wonder, did you root for him when he went to the Broncos to win?
Eddie
Yeah. Anybody that was good to the Cowboys? I root for him anywhere they go. Charles Haley, like, you know, same deal. Root for him other teams.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I think that's a good one to. There are. Sometimes I don't root for people that switch teams, but.
Eddie
But depends how they left.
Brandon
Yeah.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Next.
Eddie
Tony Dorsett.
Bobby Bones
Old school.
Eddie
I mean, he. When I was a child, he was the running back. He was awesome.
Bobby Bones
That five.
Eddie
That's number five.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
And then number six, Herschel Walk. Herschel Walker. But mainly because he. Because of Herschel Walker, in him being traded to the Minnesota Vikings. All that stuff. We got all those picks, and we got Troy Aikman, we got Michael Irvin, we got Emmett Smith, and we won three Super Bowls out of that.
Bobby Bones
So your favorite player is a trade. Yeah.
Brandon
The value of your favorite player.
Eddie
Totally. Because he was awesome in himself as a player. But when he left and got traded, it was. It changed everything for Dallas Cowboys fans.
Bobby Bones
But it's not Herschel Walker as the player.
Eddie
He was still awesome, though. Herschel Walker was awesome.
Bobby Bones
I agree. He was awesome.
Eddie
But, yeah, he's one of my favorite players.
Bobby Bones
Fair enough. I'll not argue. There were no rules. Next seven.
Eddie
CD Lamb. The next number 88. Well, skipping Des Bryant. CD Lamb, when he got drafted. You talk about, like, moments when someone got drafted and you're really excited about it. That was it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. From Oklahoma.
Eddie
Oklahoma. And I'll never forget it when the Cowboys. Because, I mean, Cowboys notoriously don't ever draft big names for some reason. It's always like, okay, cool, I guess we didn't need that lineman. Don't really know who he is, but we'll take him.
Bobby Bones
You see where he spends a million bucks a year on his body? That story came out.
Eddie
Oh, a million dollars.
Bobby Bones
I think it's like $50,000 every two weeks or something. And he's like, well, when you. Do you have a red light therapy? He does the red light therapy. Sauna, bed, whatever that thing is. He has a sauna. He has. But does body work, people? He's like, it's about a million bucks a year, but it's like an investment so he can continue to make the millions of dollars. LeBron was the one, the first famous one that would talk about how much he spent to keep himself healthy. But CD Lam wasn't like, flexing on it. Somebody had asked him, but he's like, I spent about a million bucks a.
Eddie
Year and LeBron's still playing.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And he's 48. It's not just playing. He'll probably be second team all NBA. And that's not all star team. All star team's voting. And sometimes weirdos get into that big sniff on the microphone there.
Kevin Martin
Yep.
Bobby Bones
The fact that LeBron's 40 and his second team all NBA is wild.
Eddie
Pretty amazing. Okay, next up, eight, number eight, Micah Parsons. All time.
Bobby Bones
I mean, so it's nine and a 49er. You did nine Cowboys and a 49. That's funny.
Eddie
No, no, I got one more. I think. I think Michael Parson's eight.
Bobby Bones
I know. Yeah. But I'm saying the next one's probably a cowboy and it's probably nine and a.
Eddie
You don't know that.
Bobby Bones
Okay, who's nine?
Eddie
Tony Romo, baby.
Bobby Bones
Okay, yeah.
Eddie
Number nine. Tony Romo.
Bobby Bones
So nine and a.
Eddie
So number nine and then Joe Monte.
Bobby Bones
I was Romo's lower. Yeah, higher. Yeah, yeah.
Eddie
And man, there were a lot of pain in the Romo years.
Bobby Bones
I thought Quincy Carter would make it.
Eddie
No Quincy Carter. No John Kitna.
Bobby Bones
Dude, Quincy Carter was drafted from Georgia. He was in that. He was up next guy.
Eddie
That's what we thought too.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Yeah. Did you do a list?
Brandon
No.
Bobby Bones
Okay. I have my top 10 here. Number one. I have not met him in person, only on Zoom. Do you know my favorite NFL player is.
Eddie
Yeah. Boomer.
Bobby Bones
Boomer Assisin because he was a left handed quarterback. And since I didn't have a team, I kind of adopted the Bengals because they had a left handed quarterback and Catholic. Their helmets were cool. That's literally it.
Eddie
The helmets are awesome.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Still are awesome by the way.
Eddie
But you're not a Bengals fan.
Bobby Bones
Nah, they don't have left handed quarterback anymore.
Eddie
They don't.
Bobby Bones
Number two, Darren McFadden, Arkansas playing, you know, Raiders and Cowboys. And that was strictly. I rolled with him. My personal connection is from Arkansas to. To. In the NFL. I think had he been on better teams, he'd have had a much better highly productive career because he was really good. He had bad teams.
Eddie
Did you see him play as a Razorback?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, a couple times. Number three, Steve Young.
Eddie
Did that change because you did meet him?
Bobby Bones
No. Left handed quarterback. Of course left handed quarterback in those years when I had to find. Because I was playing quarterback when I was young. Young. Mostly just because I was smart. It wasn't even anything else. Like I just knew what play. Like here's the play to call. I could run the play. And so when you're that age, that's really just knowing where to hand the ball. Right. But Steve Young was left handed quarterback. I thought it was so cool. There weren't many. So Steve Young was number three. I mean if I like in real life, he'd be up there probably one after, like after getting to meet him.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But I'm weighing in all time, like from childhood to now, everything. Number four is Peyton Manning. I loved Peyton Manning. I just love the Peyton Manning went out and ran the whole offense. And his offensive coordinator was like his peer. It wasn't like the guy that was giving him everything. It was like his peer who worked alongside, but he ran the show. He was a frickin sheriff in that locker room. On the field, I think Peyton Manning, if you were. If there weren't championships, I think Peyton Manning is probably the greatest quarterback ever. But because there are championships. Tom Brady is in a vacuum, though. And it's like you have one quarterback and you need a quarterback to throw for a bunch of yards to read defenses to. It's Peyton Manning.
Eddie
What era of Peyton Manning is your favorite?
Bobby Bones
Not the Bronco era because his neck was hurt.
Eddie
Yeah. So Colts.
Bobby Bones
He did win. He was super bowl champion there. Yeah. Yeah. But not year one. I think he threw 18 interceptions.
Eddie
Yeah, it's a rough start.
Bobby Bones
Like a rookie record for picks. Peyton Manning's at number four. Deion Sanders is at five.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
I loved Deion as a player too, because he played both ways enough. He didn't play a lot of wide receiver, but he did some. So there was always the. Is he gonna play wide receiver? But he did return kicks and punts, and that was awesome. So shut down corner, which I didn't really appreciate till later because they didn't show the shutdown corner on television when he was shutting down. Because they don't really.
Eddie
It's not that wide.
Bobby Bones
They don't really put someone on that's just keeping the ball from being thrown there because the camera follows the ball. But he was high profile. He wore the glasses, the chains, and.
Eddie
Then he did his little hop into the end zone.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Brandon
He wasn't on yours.
Eddie
That I thought about putting him on there, but, you know, I thought I gave DeMarcus where that. That's fine.
Bobby Bones
Wait, so that doesn't make sense. You put DeMarcus for like five, but here.
Eddie
But here's the deal.
Bobby Bones
Was gonna be five or nothing. He wasn't gonna be six, seven, eight.
Eddie
Dion wasn't a cowboy for a long time. He shared a lot of time with a lot of other teams. So that's kind of why I didn't put.
Bobby Bones
I think of him in my. Close my eyes. I think I'm. As a cowboy.
Eddie
Really?
Brandon
Yeah.
Kevin Martin
Same.
Eddie
Oh, I go Atlanta Hawks.
Bobby Bones
You do too?
Brandon
Yeah, I do too.
Bobby Bones
Well, he didn't play for Atlanta Hawks.
Eddie
I'm sorry. Atlanta Falcons. Yeah, they're both birds.
Bobby Bones
See your eyes, dude. Playing tricks on you.
Eddie
They're both birds.
Bobby Bones
I think of Deion Sanders. Football, Cowboys, baseball, Braves. Even though that was at the same time. He played with Atlanta because He could do both. Yeah, but Deion Sanders at number five, at number six, Tom Brady.
Brandon
Nice.
Bobby Bones
I admire consistency, first of all, I admire consistency and greatness at the same time. Most of all, it's so hard to be consistent, impossible to be consistently great. Now that doesn't mean every year, but dude won seven freaking Super Bowls. He's pretty consistent that he was consistently in the mix, to be in the mix to win a title every year. So as I'm watching him, I rooted for Peyton Manning every time they played each other. But as I've gotten older, in the latter years of Tom Brady being an adult and just seeing how consistent, how thorough he was with the things that weren't even football, the eating, the training, developing his own system for him, the flight. Gotta admire that. Consistency is currency to me in every part of my life. And so Tom Brady comes in at number six for that. It's not even that I'm a fan. I like the Patriots too. When they were winning, not that I was a Patriots fan, but I just admired how they consistently cheated.
Eddie
Yeah, they did.
Brandon
I think you're different ways. One consistently one. Is that what you meant?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, no, I did, I did. I do like it. And they were always in the mix to be in the mix. Even when they weren't. Even when Brady goes down and Castle goes in. Yeah, they didn't make the playoffs, but it was the very last game of the season after they had already played when they realized they didn't make the playoffs, they had won 11 games.
Brandon
11 and five.
Bobby Bones
So Tom Brady at number six. Our list is so different again because I don't have a team. Yeah, mine are for like very personal, like human. Like the two left handed quarterbacks, the Arkansas guy and so far a lot of quarterbacks, mostly quarterbacks. The two gets shown the most.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Patrick Mahomes at seven.
Eddie
There we go.
Bobby Bones
And I could put that back on the Brady. That's the junior varsity Brady version of that. And I like Patrick Mahomes too because his little belly. Yeah, he now he looks like a. Now he looks like a warrior. I said this last year when he lost. Like you didn't piss him off. He's going to train this offseason and be physically better than he's ever been. If you've seen pictures of him. Have you?
Brandon
No, I don't google that.
Bobby Bones
Oh my God, he looks like a soldier.
Eddie
Really? Yeah, you know, with their uniforms on now with their rib pad thing, you know, around their other kind of like midsection. Kind of makes them all look A little.
Bobby Bones
It does little because that thing pokes out a little bit.
Brandon
But it's more than others, I feel like.
Eddie
For sure.
Bobby Bones
But if you look at Patrick Mahomes now and you see, like his. It's not even camp time, but his just offseason workouts, you can tell physically he's been motivated to be physical. Pretty wild. I love Mahomes. Icky Woods at 8.
Eddie
Oh, another Bengal in my bank.
Bobby Bones
In my Bengal days. I like that he would dance when he scored touchdown. The shuffle, that's all it was about.
Eddie
Do you remember those? A commercial reason, like, I don't know, the last 10 years at the grocery store.
Bobby Bones
Maybe like a Geico commercial or something.
Eddie
I don't remember, but he's buying meat.
Brandon
Yeah, I think it was a guy. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon
He like, drops a turkey or something, doesn't he?
Bobby Bones
So. And that's only because when I liked the Bengals, he was the running back that danced, and I liked that.
Brandon
That's cool, dude.
Eddie
And they used to wear these shoulder pads that were so big. He looked like a monster.
Bobby Bones
Coming at you as a running back.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Oh, just wait for my number 10, though, at number nine, John Elway. And here's why. He won at the end, finally. And I. I think that's pretty cool. He hung in there and got himself a couple. He went too.
Brandon
Yeah.
Kevin Martin
Back to back.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. At the very end, right?
Kevin Martin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And then he walked out and he was like. He's like, I'm done. Like, he was the guy now, remember? He too, maybe the first player that was drafted was like, I don't want to go play for that team. I'll go play for the Yankees and baseball. Because he was that kind of athlete.
Eddie
Who was it? The Broncos he got drafted by?
Bobby Bones
No, that team did not get drafted by the Broncos.
Eddie
Okay. So what's.
Bobby Bones
They ended up cold, maybe.
Eddie
Dang, that's balls. Maybe ballsy.
Bobby Bones
Feels like it's the Colts.
Brandon
I think that one was still Baltimore.
Bobby Bones
And he was saying, you can draft me, but I'm going to go play baseball if you do. And that later happened with Eli Manning and the Chargers when they drafted Eli Manning.
Brandon
So, yeah, it was a Colts.
Eddie
Baltimore Colts, man, that quarterback class of like, you know, Drew John Elway and dan Marino and 83 Joe Montana, like crazy.
Bobby Bones
And at number 10, Mike Allstot.
Brandon
Nice.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Big shoulder pads.
Bobby Bones
Huge shoulder pads. And a white guy who was a running back. And you didn't see many white guys that were running backs. You're like, that looks weird.
Eddie
Yep.
Bobby Bones
You're like, he can't be that fast. But he just ran through people. He was a bull. Yeah. A white guy running back still looks funny. I'm like. I'm like, he ain't that good.
Eddie
Even. Even McCaffrey, man.
Bobby Bones
Well, McCaffrey. But even Arizona State.
Eddie
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Scatter.
Eddie
Boo.
Bobby Bones
I'm like, I wouldn't draft him. He ain't that good. He's white. I hold that against people. I hold that against running backs if they're white.
Brandon
Wasn't that Gebhart? No.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Toby.
Kevin Martin
Toby Gerhardt.
Brandon
There you go.
Bobby Bones
Like Minnesota Toby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And also Peyton Hillis, who was on the COVID of Madden, but had, like, two or three really good years. Like, won me a fantasy league or two.
Eddie
Never forget it.
Bobby Bones
And I would never, never thought was awesome. All that was awesome. So that's fun. Who's your favorite of all time? Kevin?
Eddie
Oh, come on.
Brandon
Nah, you. I know you think, probably Tom Brady.
Eddie
No problem.
Brandon
That's too easy, though. Like, honestly, my favorite football player of all time is Randy Moss. I love Randy Moss. And when he came to the Patriots, I was so happy because as a kid watching him, he was like, I remember being in the yard and be like, oh, you just got Moss. And I try to make a catch over somebody. So Randy Moss was my favorite football player of all time.
Eddie
I mean, my kids still say you.
Bobby Bones
Got Mossed, because it's now a thing that they do on SportsCenter.
Eddie
Yeah. But it's great because, I mean, I feel like it'll last forever because my kids have no idea who Randy Moss is, have no idea what he did, who he played for. But whenever they get Moss, they're like, oh, you got Mossed.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I think even if you don't know Randy Moss existed, that has now been turned into what, that. It's like, yeah, you can't shoot a paper wad to the trash can without yelling. Even if you don't know it's Kobe Bryant. It's like, I think if I shoot at the trash can, I just yelled, kobe, I want to play a clip for you here. So NBA guard used to play, Jeremy Lamb was on this podcast called Run youn Race. This is so interesting. And so Kevin Martin played for the Thunder Kings. And what I think is so interesting about him is that when I didn't know this till I watched it, he kind of was part of why he's really good, but he didn't want to be too good. And then I'm like, well, why doesn't it be too good? Listen, to this clip again, this is Jeremy Lamb talking about Kevin Martin. Back in the day, I got traded with.
Craig Melvin
What's the name? Kevin Martin says like the second quarter and say he got like 19 points. He'll look up and be like, I got too many points. I'm sitting there like, what? What you mean you got too many points? He like, I got too many points. If I keep scoring, then they gonna make me an All Star. I want my time to myself. And I'm sitting there like, what?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, because when you become the main guy, you got a lot of obligations. He didn't want to go have to do All Star Weekend all week. He's like. And then they talked because he played with like, Durant on that. Okay.
Kevin Martin
Yeah.
Brandon
James Harden.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And he. He would be scoring a lot.
Eddie
It's like, ah, it's so unheard of.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Crazy.
Brandon
It's wild.
Bobby Bones
It feels like in other elements comments. The guy that played Lincoln, Mike, the method actor, Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah.
Eddie
Like, dude just goes and lives like Abe Lincoln.
Bobby Bones
Small. But even as. Not even as an actor, he just like lives in some small shack all the time. Like, get. You know, he doesn't want to be so famous and you can't call him by his real name. You have to call him Abraham Lincoln whenever he's method acting. But he doesn't want to be so famous, so he doesn't do a lot of massive. He just really do his. He's so good, has his career, but he doesn't want to be so famous that it gets in the way of his career where he can't live a life because of his career the way he liked to live it. Same thing here with Kevin Martin. He didn't want to be that good. He was that good, but he didn't want to be so good that he would then had to lose his time for All Star Weekend. Would have to be the face of the franchise. More photo shoots, more. So he's like, I'm just going to be so good. That gets me through it. I'm still considered a big part of the team. Gonna have a job, gonna get paid well. But I don't want to be that good.
Brandon
I respect that.
Eddie
You gotta respect.
Bobby Bones
I respect it. I'm not that.
Eddie
No, no, no. I'd rather have the All Star label.
Bobby Bones
And then all the money and I want to go do All Star Weekend. But even the baseball players that we know, they would be like, man, All Star game sucks. It's fun the first time because you're like, wow. But you just your body hurts, you want the time off, you just kind of don't want to have to go do it. But you don't play lesser so you don't have to do it. But I was kind of blown away by that.
Eddie
That's really cool.
Bobby Bones
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Did your kids watch any of the draft? Eddie?
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See, it's awesome dude. I'm so proud of my kids cuz I feel like I'm raising them right. So my because they watch the draft? No. Well so my 11 year old, he loves the draft. Like he's the biggest Cowboys fan. He's just like me and he had to go to a camp, like a school camp and so he was like dad, please record the the draft for me. I'm going to miss it. And they're like an hour away from town or whatever. Well, last night I got a t text from one of the dads. He said, dude, your son's a baller.
Kevin Martin
You said baller?
Eddie
Yeah. He's like, your son's a baller. I'm like, what did he do? Is he in trouble? He's like, no. He got the whole camp to sign off on watching the draft. So we're all here watching the drafts.
Bobby Bones
My man.
Eddie
My man. Like, all the camp leaders are just like, all right, we'll put it on tv.
Bobby Bones
And his most proud dad moment is his son getting other kids to watch the draft.
Eddie
I got a little tear. Like, that's my. My boy.
Bobby Bones
Was it for the Cowboys or was it just for the NFL? Is he a Cowboys kid?
Eddie
He's a Cowboys kid, but he wanted to watch the whole draft. He loves the first round of the draft. Every single pick.
Bobby Bones
First round's fun.
Eddie
It was entertaining.
Bobby Bones
I will not be dedicated to watching the rest. I will check in with the rest. I'll probably watch the first few picks of the second round. The second round will be fun because it'll be all the quarterbacks and running backs. Like, there's a. We're about to have a big quarterback, big running back run.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
There are no more linemen, wide receivers. Every lineman was drafted. Every lineman was drafted. Thank you, guys. I hope you have a great weekend. If you don't mind, go subscribe to 25 whistles on our actual page. That would help us because sometimes we have two episodes they don't put on the Bobby Bone show page. So thank you very much and we will see you on Monday. We have a good show planned for Monday, too. Thanks to Joe Flacco. Thanks for Brandon for yelling football earlier. That was a big deal.
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Good job, Brando.
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Eddie, blow it.
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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show
Episode 25W: Most Memorable Draft Reactions from Round 1 + QB Joe Flacco on the Browns Expectations in 2025 + Our Top 10 NFL Players of All-Time
Release Date: April 25, 2025
In this segment, Bobby Bones and his co-hosts delve into the electrifying moments of the recent NFL Draft's first round. Bobby shares his excitement about watching the entire draft, something he doesn't usually do due to his busy schedule:
Bobby Bones (03:18): "I watched the entire draft last night. Yeah. And most of the time I don't watch all of it. Life gets in the way."
The discussion highlights the unpredictability of team selections, especially concerning quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Bobby analyzes the potential destinations for Sanders, considering team needs and draft strategies:
Bobby Bones (04:34): "Cleveland or whatever. Because Cleveland, imagine that they're still going to get the quarterback. They almost took as round the first pick in the second round."
The hosts express surprise over the Saints' decision not to draft a quarterback, instead selecting defensive talent. They critique the Cowboys' pick, emphasizing its strategic value despite initial disappointment:
Bobby Bones (12:45): "So, yeah, good job, Cowboys. As a non-Cowboy fan, I think that was a good pick by the Cowboys."
Additionally, the segment touches on the Jaguars' aggressive trading strategy to secure high-value picks, showcasing their commitment to rebuilding the team culture:
Bobby Bones (09:10): "He took a big swing and if you miss, okay, you took a big swing and it sucks. But you really don't do big things unless you take big swings."
The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with NFL quarterback Joe Flacco, the Super Bowl 47 MVP, now playing for the Cleveland Browns. Bobby Bones opens the conversation with a light-hearted comment on Flacco's recent draft selection mishaps:
Bobby Bones (25:17): "Joe signed with Cleveland this offseason. And we'll turn to the Browns, where He played in 2023 when he won comeback player of the year."
Flacco discusses his passion for the game and the rigorous routines that have kept him active in his late 30s:
Joe Flacco (27:23): "I've been able to stay consistent through the course of my career. I figured out probably within the first three or four years that I need to... stay in shape and get stronger."
He reflects on the challenges of transitioning to a new team and maintaining peak performance:
Joe Flacco (32:00): "There are a lot of similarities in every locker room. We're all kind of working towards that common goal... There's always great guys that you connect with and can have a lot of fun with."
Flacco also shares anecdotes from his draft night experiences and emphasizes his goals for the upcoming season, focusing on team integration and personal performance without the distractions of media hype:
Joe Flacco (40:41): "The goal this season is to kind of become part of the team... and hopefully be the guy that's on the field this year and helping a team win some football games."
Concluding the episode, Bobby Bones and his co-hosts engage in a spirited debate over their personal rankings of the greatest NFL players ever. Bobby initiates the list with Emmitt Smith, highlighting his enduring legacy:
Bobby Bones (45:45): "Number 1. You do your favorite first. Okay. Favorite player of all time, Emmett Smith, baby."
Eddie concurs, adding Troy Aikman and Deion Sanders to his top picks, reminiscing about their impact both on and off the field:
Eddie (46:11): "Number 3 is Peyton Manning... and Deion Sanders is at five."
Brandon introduces Randy Moss as his favorite, emphasizing Moss's unparalleled skill and memorable plays:
Brandon (60:18): "My favorite football player of all time is Randy Moss. I love Randy Moss."
The discussion also touches on lesser-known legends like Toby Gerhart and memorable figures like Mike Alstott, showcasing the hosts' diverse tastes and deep appreciation for NFL history.
Bobby Bones (59:17): "Number 10, Mike Alstot, a white guy who was a running back. And you didn't see many white guys that were running backs. You're like, that looks weird."
Throughout the list, the hosts infuse personal stories and humorous exchanges, making the ranking session both informative and entertaining.
This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a comprehensive look into the latest NFL Draft reactions, an insightful interview with Joe Flacco regarding the Cleveland Browns' future, and an engaging discussion on the top NFL players of all time. Bobby Bones and his co-hosts blend expert analysis with personal anecdotes, providing listeners with a rich and enjoyable experience.
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