25W: Remembering Catherine O'Hara + Top 5 Movie & TV Moms of All-Time + Most Hated Head Coaches in the NFL + The Dangerous Algorithm Being Fed to Bobby on TikTok

Summary

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The Bobby Bones Show – 25 Whistles:

Episode: Remembering Catherine O’Hara + Top 5 Movie & TV Moms + Most Hated NFL Head Coaches + The Dangerous TikTok Algorithm
Date: January 30, 2026

Episode Overview

In this spirited episode, Bobby Bones and his crew dive into a variety of pop culture and sports topics. They pay tribute to the late Catherine O’Hara, share and debate their personal top five TV and movie moms, break down the greatest and most disliked NFL coaches, and discuss the dangerous “daredevil” content populating Bobby’s TikTok feed—all while showing off their signature blend of banter and list-making energy.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Dangerous TikTok Algorithm: Daredevil Videos

[03:21 – 06:27]

• Bobby shares how his TikTok feed is now full of daredevil and dangerous stunt videos—blaming having recently watched Alex Honnold climbing.
• Most notable: The Travis Pastrana 2007 video where he jumps out of an airplane “shirtless in a pair of shorts” with no parachute (03:47).
  • He relies entirely on two skydivers to catch and harness him, mid-fall.
• Mike admits he’s never seen the clip and is in disbelief:

  “Dude, he jumps out, he’s doing flips. No parachute, nothing. … One of them grabs him. No way, dude. No way.” – Mike [05:01]

• Both reflect on their own tandem skydiving experiences—Bobby’s was with a much smaller woman:

  “I tugged it, she goes, ‘No, you have to pull it.’ … so you don’t accidentally hit it and it doesn’t come.” – Bobby [06:04]

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2. Remembering Catherine O’Hara & The Best Movie/TV Moms

[06:46 – 20:45]

Catherine O’Hara’s Passing

• Bobby brings up that Catherine O’Hara, known for her iconic “Home Alone” role, died that day.

  “Catherine O’Hara died. I saw her in Home Alone. ... She is on my [movie moms] list at number two.” – Bobby [06:46]

Top 5 Movie Moms (Bobby’s List)

[07:11 – 13:00]

1. Sally Field as Forrest Gump’s mom (“she fought for Forrest. Yeah, she did a lot of stuff.”)
2. Catherine O’Hara as Kate McAllister (“Home Alone mom.”)
3. Michelle Pfeiffer (Dangerous Minds) – non-biological, but “protector and teacher.”
4. Allison Janney (I, Tonya) – “not a likable mom, but memorable.”
5. Amy Poehler (Mean Girls, Regina George’s mom) –

   “I’m not a regular mom. I’m a cool mom.” – Bobby quoting Amy Poehler [10:56]

TV Moms (Group Discussion)

[13:02 – 19:46]

• The crew and Bobby riff their favorite TV moms:
  • Aunt Vivian Banks (“The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air”): “There were two Vivians, though, in Fresh Prince ... change the mom’s right in the middle of the show.” — Bobby [13:40]
  • Carol Brady (“The Brady Bunch”)
  • Deborah Barone (“Everybody Loves Raymond”): “She was always outnumbered ... She was the normal one.” — Bobby [16:35]
  • Claire Huxtable (“The Cosby Show”)
  • Roseanne Conner (“Roseanne”)
• Animated mention: Marge Simpson (“The Simpsons”) (“I thought about her. I didn’t put her because I didn’t want to put a cartoon.” — Bobby [17:31])
• Discussion on TV era (“It was the 60s ... all the dads were not around in the 60s.”)
• Quick shoutout to Catherine O’Hara’s roles on “Schitt’s Creek,” “Beetlejuice,” “Best in Show,” and “The Last of Us.”

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3. Greatest and Most Disliked NFL Coaches

[25:17 – 41:22]

Top 5 NFL Coaches of Their Lifetime

Bobby and Mike debate greatness and legacy.

• Bobby:

  “Bill Belichick is the number one.”
  “Everybody on my list has at least three Super Bowls.”

• The list (not strictly in order):

  1. Bill Belichick
  2. Andy Reid
  3. Bill Walsh
  4. Joe Gibbs
  5. Chuck Noll

• Missing Legends: Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, Tom Landry not included due to Super Bowl count or personal criteria.

The “Most Hated” in Football

[34:18 – 41:22]

• Bill Belichick and Tom Brady both make the “most disliked” list due to cheating scandals:

  “I think he makes the list mostly because he won a lot. But also there was the cheating part of it as well.” – Bobby on Tom Brady [34:38]

• Roger Goodell as the perennial “boo magnet”:

  “When he walks out, he gets booed. It’s even tradition now.” – Bobby [40:13]

• Players like Aaron Rodgers (“acts like he’s smarter than everyone else”) and Deshaun Watson (“I don’t know anybody that speaks out positively about this person”) round out the list.

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4. Most Hated Players & Sports Figures (Across Sports)

[41:22 – 54:45]

• NFL: Belichick, Brady, Goodell, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson.
• NBA: LeBron James, Draymond Green (“He steps on people’s chests ... always fighting”), Dylan Brooks (for his feuds, especially with LeBron).
• MLB: Barry Bonds (“Terrible ... people hated him.”), A-Rod.
• NASCAR: Kyle Busch, Joey Logano, Denny Hamlin—despite Bobby recalling all their in-person interactions as positive, the crew notes their “aggressive” or “cheap” driving leads to fan dislike.

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5. Bonus Banter and Notable Moments

• Running Wild with Bear Grylls: Bobby shares Bear’s take:

  “Generally when we’re out in this element and everyone feels like they’re not the master of their domain, they’re pretty nice.” [54:19]

• NASCAR riff leads to Bobby and the crew naming all the drivers they know, often comically mixing up names and sponsors (Richard Petty, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Danica Patrick, etc.).
• Bobby reminisces about meeting Jimmy Buffett at a Super Bowl owner’s party; Buffett’s “not in Hawaiian shirts, just nice pants.”
• Sports betting: Bobby and Mike joke about their losses and big wins from parlay bets and plans for Super Bowl viewing at home.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• On Travis Pastrana’s skydive:
  "No parachute, nothing. But he is surrounded by two dudes." – Mike [04:56]
• On Catherine O’Hara’s top movie moment:
  “She was Kevin’s mom, that’s why I put her as Home Alone.” – Bobby [07:21]
• On tough NFL Hall of Fame votes (re: Bill Belichick):
  “If these voters are being consistent … Bill Belichick cheated. … Two big scandals that we know of. I still think he’s the greatest coach.” – Bobby [25:51]
• On most hated in sports:
  “Roger Goodell. … Poor guy. He can’t win.” – Mike [41:13] “Deshaun Watson. I don’t know anybody that speaks out positively about this person.” – Bobby [48:42]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 03:21 – The TikTok Algorithm & Travis Pastrana Skydiving Discussion
• 06:46 – Remembering Catherine O’Hara & Top 5 Movie Moms
• 13:02 – TV Moms List
• 19:46 – More on Catherine O’Hara’s Roles & Tribute
• 25:17 – NFL Coaches: Greats & First Ballot Hall of Fame Talk
• 34:18 – The Most Disliked People in Sports (NFL Focus)
• 41:22 – Player Hate Across Sports (NFL/NBA/MLB/NASCAR)
• 54:19 – Bear Grylls & Celebrity Fame Stories
• 58:05 – The NASCAR Who’s Who Game
• 62:28 – Final Wrap-Up, Super Bowl Bet Banter, Guest Teasers

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a lively, honestly rambling mix of pop culture nostalgia, sports fandom, and friendly ribbing. The crew’s unscripted lists and deeply personal picks offer genuine insight into sports and entertainment icons, from the revered (Catherine O’Hara, NFL coaching legends) to the reviled (Brady, Belichick, Goodell, and more). Fans of sports and sitcoms alike will find plenty to argue about and laugh at—and a heartfelt nostalgia for the enduring power of famous moms on screens big and small.

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[Mike]

This is a podcast called 25 whistles. Talking football and they all wear a whistle, yet stupid. But what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, welcome to the show. My algorithm has been feeding me, as I've been telling you, people doing dangerous things. And the video that I keep getting fed over and over, and it's all because of the Alex Honnold, and he was climbing that building. I am showing the Travis Pastrana video jumping out of the airplane with no parachute. No, I've been shown it twice.

[Mike]

I haven't seen it.

[Bobby Bones]

It's 2007.

[Mike]

I haven't seen it. Did he make it?

[Bobby Bones]

You haven't seen this video?

[Mike]

No, I've never seen it. No. So what does he do?

[Bobby Bones]

Like, okay, then I have to show you and get your reaction.

[Mike]

Okay. Because I'm getting. Dude, I'm getting the same videos, but I'm getting idiots trying to scale a building, and they get up, like, half a floor and fall down.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you're getting unsuccessful attempts.

[Mike]

I'm getting these guys that are like, I can do it. And they get up on one window and like, I can't do it.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't believe you haven't seen Travis Pastrana in 2007, shirtless in a pair of shorts, jump out of an airplane with no parachute.

[Mike]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

And so then what happens is he just trusts the guys that are in the plane with him that are wearing parachutes to jump down and catch him.

[Mike]

No way.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike, are you shocked that he hasn't seen this? Yeah.

[Mike]

Did they practice that at all?

[Bobby Bones]

I keep getting. And the reason I was even bringing it up is because I watch it every time, but because I've been getting the Daredevil videos. Okay, I'm gonna hand this to you.

[Mike]

Okay. I don't even know who this guy is. Alex Pastrana.

[Bobby Bones]

Travis.

[Mike]

Travis. Okay. All right. Right now he's in the.

[Bobby Bones]

He's laying in the plane.

[Mike]

He's landing the plane. Looks like he just drank a beer or something.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a Red Bull.

[Mike]

Red Bull.

[Bobby Bones]

Because he's a Red Bull.

[Mike]

Okay? He. Dude, he jumps out, he's doing flips.

[Bobby Bones]

No parachute.

[Mike]

No parachute, Nothing. But he is surrounded by two dudes.

[Bobby Bones]

They jumped after him, and they look.

[Mike]

Like they're in the same elevation as he is. He's just loving life. And then they're getting closer to him. Wow. One of them grabs him. No way, dude. No way. One of them gets. He grabs him by his back and like, wraps around. Now he's riding him like a. Like a horse. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He's got a strap. He's got a. He's got a strap to him. Like, that's how he lives.

[Mike]

No. And the other guy was holding his hands, and now they've deployed the parachute.

[Bobby Bones]

We're two people who have skydived before.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you imagine skydiving with nothing and just trusting someone to grab you?

[Mike]

No way, dude. When I. When I. When I skydove. Skydive, the guy let me pull the string. And that was crazy, too, because I'm like, how. How hard do I. And we're trying to communicate in the air, right? And he's just like, pull the string. You can't hear him because you can't hear any. Anything. He's right next to my ear, but you can't hear him talking. He's just pointing at the. The ball. He's like, pull on it.

[Bobby Bones]

My experience was different than yours. It was yours because I. I pulled the whole time. That's what I was going to do. And I could hear her talk to me.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

I had a woman, and she was way smaller than I was, and she was like, you can pull it. And then I tugged it. She goes, no, you have to pull it. I guess so you don't accidentally hit it and it doesn't come.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

As you're falling out of the plane. But no, I was fed that, and I made a note to talk about that again. That's amazing. I've seen it a hundred times, but it's one of those videos that if it comes on, I've got to watch it again.

[Mike]

Dude, he's got to be freaking out, right? Like, he looks like he's having fun and everything, but, I mean, you've got to be freaking out at some point. What if they don't catch me? It's over.

[Bobby Bones]

He ain't freaking out. You don't do that if you're going to freak out. And also, I've just seen he's just a motocross, right? Yeah. Had nitro circus back in the day. But you don't know him.

[Mike]

Don't know him. I've never seen that. Seen that video at all.

[Bobby Bones]

Something else that happened today because we're putting this episode out on Friday is Catherine o' Hara died. I saw him Home Alone. Yeah. So what I was going to do is make a list. And, Mike, I think you'd be good for this as well. I made a list of my top five movie moms. Oh, that's cool, because she is on my list at number two.

[Mike]

Strong.

[Bobby Bones]

Home Alone. Yeah, obviously.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, she was. Yeah. I mean, she was in other movies, but that's. She was a home alone mom. I mean, she was Kevin.

[Bobby Bones]

That's why I put her in his home alone. I have a top five, but who makes your list? Best movie moms Movie mic. I'm gonna go with Sarah Connor from Terminator. Yeah. Is that her real name?

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[Mike]

No, that was her character name. Oh, he was. Yeah. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know a real. You know a real name?

[Mike]

She's married to James Cameron.

[Bobby Bones]

Right?

[Mike]

Or they were married at least.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh. Okay, I have all people's real names. What was her name in Home Alone? Macaulay Culkin's mom. McAllister. Okay, I don't remember. I didn't give you guys any time to research.

[Mike]

No, I'm trying to think of, like, moms.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll give you number one.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Sally Field from.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mrs. Doubtfire.

[Bobby Bones]

No, Forrest Gump.

[Mike]

Oh, she was for his mom, too.

[Bobby Bones]

So that may be better because again, I put very little thought behind this. Hey.

[Mike]

Actually, she wasn't.

[Bobby Bones]

I just went from my brain and quickly. So I put Sally Phil from Forrest Gump.

[Mike]

I didn't like her as a mom in. In Mrs. Doubtfire, but, yeah, Forest Gump. Dude, she fought for Forest. Yeah, she did a lot of stuff.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so I had Sally Field at one.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Catherine o' Hara at two. At number three. Non traditional mom. Not really a biological mom, but she was a protector and teacher of her kids.

[Mike]

Can you give me, like, a year?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. 90s movie had a great soundtrack.

[Mike]

Not a biological mom. Great soundtrack. Dang. Can you give me another actor in the movie?

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Mike]

Or is that going to give.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know many. I don't know much about movies. I did watch this movie, and Coolio, I believe, is on the soundtrack.

[Mike]

Oh, is that. Is that Michelle Pfeiffer?

[Bobby Bones]

It is. I put Michelle Pfeiffer. Again, she's not their mom, but she's their teacher. The teacher of all the kids.

[Mike]

You're so dumb. How does that count? She's just a teacher.

[Bobby Bones]

Counts because I made the list and I just wrote down the first five that came to me.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

At number four. This person was a mom on a television show for a while. I didn't list her in my television moms. She's a mom in this movie. And this movie is based on. It's a pretty accurate story. A true story. That's an athlete movie. The athlete is a woman. So she's the idea.

[Mike]

Brandon.

[Bobby Bones]

She's the mom and the athlete's a woman. It's a true story. The movie was really good. The athlete had to ugly themselves up a little bit to play the part.

[Brandon]

Was the actress of the athlete, Margot Robbie?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

What's her name?

[Mike]

That.

[Brandon]

It's Tanya Harding.

[Bobby Bones]

Correct. It's Allison Janney, who plays her mom, and I. Tanya.

[Mike]

No way.

[Brandon]

That was such a great movie.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I can't remember what she looks like.

[Bobby Bones]

You really didn't like her. Like, she. You know, that's kind of the reason Tanya Harding was why she was.

[Mike]

You didn't like the mom?

[Bobby Bones]

No, she wasn't supposed to be.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's one of the moms that came through for me. Dude, I just wrote five moms. Catherine just died.

[Mike]

I feel like the last two, you just kind of like, I need them all.

[Bobby Bones]

No, like the moms. The first moms I thought of, like, best doesn't mean most positive.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, I see. I see what you're saying.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. And then my final one, she has a very famous quote. Eddie, see if you can get this quote.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not a regular mom. I'm a cool mom.

[Mike]

I'm not a regular mom. Is that Freaky Friday?

[Bobby Bones]

No, but you're close. It's close by us. Amy on our show also says this a lot, this quote. I'm not. I'm a cool mom.

[Mike]

Parent Trap.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. But you've nailed the similar actress. That's not the moment. Are you doing that on purpose?

[Mike]

Yeah, because that. Because you said that. And then I went, what's her name? The girl that Parent Trap the twins.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, what is.

[Mike]

What is her name?

[Bobby Bones]

You're going to put this together.

[Nav Green]

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[Mike]

What is her name?

[Bobby Bones]

So you said Parent Trap and you said Freaky Friday.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Who is the actress that plays in both of those?

[Mike]

Yeah, that's. It's her name. And. Come on. Come to me. And she's done great with her life, too. She's turned her life around.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. You got her focus in. She also, I think Was in Herbie.

[Mike]

The love.

[Bobby Bones]

Good. Good gosh.

[Mike]

What is her name? What's the first letter of her name? Anyone? Come on, just give me the letter, please.

[Bobby Bones]

She. Yeah. Had a troubled.

[Mike]

She did. She did. I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Her. I'll give you a letter. But the first and letter of her first name and last name is the same.

[Mike]

Okay, what's the letter?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I said I won't give you the letter.

[Mike]

You won't give it to me.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's the same letter that starts our first name and last name.

[Mike]

Oh, my gosh. What is her name?

[Bobby Bones]

10 bucks we get in five seconds.

[Mike]

$10.

[Bobby Bones]

4, 3, 2, 1.

[Mike]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Lindsay Lohan.

[Mike]

Oh, Lindsay. Okay, okay. So she's not the mom.

[Bobby Bones]

She's not the mom. But her. It's her mom.

[Mike]

Jamie Lee Curtis.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's. It's. It's the. Her nemesis's mom.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh, her nemesis.

[Bobby Bones]

The movie's Mean Girls.

[Mike]

Oh, mean Girls. Never watch Mean Girls.

[Bobby Bones]

You didn't.

[Mike]

Don't know who the mom is.

[Bobby Bones]

Amy Poehler. Oh, she means Regina George's mom. So good.

[Mike]

She was mean.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, she's Regina.

[Mike]

Yeah, right.

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Like.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Okay, so I did that list.

[Mike]

That's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, then I did Eddie, see how many you can get here. TV moms.

[Mike]

Oh, this is fun.

[Bobby Bones]

So this is. Yeah, I'll just let you guess. I have a list of five.

[Mike]

Well, the first one that comes to my mind is Jill Taylor.

[Bobby Bones]

Great. Great one. Never thought of it.

[Brandon]

I thought of, too.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a great one. Oh, wow. I would definitely consider her on the list. I never even thought of her. Home Improvement.

[Mike]

Okay, Will's mom made my list.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the show?

[Mike]

Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

[Bobby Bones]

Correct. And number three, Vivian Bates. Because she was strong. Yes. Also smart.

[Brandon]

Aunt Vivian.

[Bobby Bones]

Graceful. There were two Vivians, though, in Fresh Prince because there was the original. And then she got in a big fight with Will and they flipped her out for another one.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Change. The mom's right in the middle of the show.

[Mike]

Dang. I never. I don't. I don't think I noticed that change.

[Bobby Bones]

You probably did if you watched it. You may not remember you noticing because they didn't look super similar.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But, yeah, I have Vivian Banks, who played Carlton's mom.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

In Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Also.

[Mike]

Let'S go with. Oh, man, they didn't have a mom. Full house. Let's go. Family Matters. Harriet Winslow didn't put her.

[Bobby Bones]

Thought about her great one. And I almost put Aunt Becky because she was a mom.

[Mike]

She was the Mother figure.

[Bobby Bones]

But she was also the mother figure. But she also had the twins, her and Jesse.

[Mike]

Oh, that's right. So she was a mom. Is she on your list?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Thought about her.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I went with Michelle Pfeiffer instead.

[Mike]

She was a mom to all her students.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Okay, I'll give you one more guess before I.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Go to the peanut gallery over there.

[Mike]

Okay. Very awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

By the way, Catherine o' Hara didn't make my mom's list, but on Schitt's Creek. She's great. She's great.

[Brandon]

So good.

[Mike]

Oh, she on there.

[Brandon]

Kate on Home Alone. By the way, Kate. Kate McAllister.

[Mike]

Okay. Trying to think of. Gosh, TV mom.

[Bobby Bones]

This list was much easier for me than the movie list.

[Mike]

Was it?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Trying to think of. Oh, who's the boss?

[Bobby Bones]

Who's the boss?

[Mike]

She was Angela.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Judith Light.

[Mike]

And Judith Light. Dude. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

She was what? Daniel's mom was Daniel Kid.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I didn't. I didn't pick her.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's a good.

[Mike]

And then basically stepmom.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a guess. Yes, yes.

[Mike]

Judith Light. I can't really remember her name.

[Bobby Bones]

That's like. Well, she's also a big stage star as well.

[Mike]

Oh, really? Tell me more. How did you know that?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know, dude. Mike, you want to take a shot? Give me Carol Brady. Carol Brady makes the list at number four from the Brady Bunch.

[Mike]

That's good. Super mom. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Just like classic TV mom. It wasn't that she was painted as a super strong figure, but she was always present. And it was the 60s.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just a different kind of presentation then.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, Mike was very present for the 60s because I feel like all the dads were not around in the 60s.

[Bobby Bones]

Good point. He was gay. Did you know that in real life? I think he died of aids.

[Mike]

I think I did. I think I did know that.

[Bobby Bones]

Fun fact. I almost said fun fact, but that's a fun fact.

[Mike]

But that was the dad. I almost thought that was Greg.

[Bobby Bones]

No, Greg's still alive, and I don't think has aids.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

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[Mike]

Mike Brady. Did you say that yet?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I didn't say that. Okay.

[Brandon]

I said yet.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, whoa, you have another guest. Mike, give me Deborah Barone. Yes. Makes the list at number five, Patricia Heaton, who plays Deborah Barone and Everybody Loves Raymond. Yeah. Basically. She was always outnumbered because it was a lot of race, family, Ray, Robert, Marie against her. She was the normal one.

[Mike]

She was. And the reason I don't think of her as a mom is because she was more of a wife to me than, like. Then they had the twins, right?

[Bobby Bones]

They always had the twins.

[Mike]

They always had the twins. I guess I just never really saw.

[Bobby Bones]

Her as a mom.

[Mike]

It was always just like Ray's wife who always got. Yeah, the short end of it.

[Bobby Bones]

I have one more on the list because. Oh, I have two more on the list. But at three was Vivian Banks from the Fresh Prince. At four, the Brady Bunch. Carol Brady. At five, Patricia Heaton from Everybody Loves Raymond. Mike's on a roll here. Let's go animated. Marge Simpson. I thought about her. I didn't put her because I didn't want to put a cartoon.

[Mike]

That's so good, though. That's a good guess.

[Bobby Bones]

Instead, I put Michelle Pfeiffer again.

[Mike]

She was a mom to all.

[Bobby Bones]

One more guess.

[Mike]

Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's go. June Cleaver from Leave it to Beaver.

[Mike]

Oh, you love that show.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't put anybody in black and white.

[Mike]

Oh, no one. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

By the way, your guesses aren't wrong. This is just my.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Brandon.

[Brandon]

Claire Huxtable, number one.

[Bobby Bones]

Claire Huxtable from the Cosby Show. Felicia Rashad, man, she's my number one TV mom. There's one more left if anybody wants to guess it.

[Brandon]

Okay, are we talking 80s or 90s?

[Bobby Bones]

I believe, without fact checking, this show started at the very end of the 80s. I would look this up, and it was most popular during the 90s. Is there a mom in Seinfeld?

[Mike]

I mean, Jerry's mom. Oh, there's. Oh, George's mom.

[Brandon]

Hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

Still early 90s. It started in 1988 and went all the way to May 20th of 1997. So it's a very popular show. Almost 10 years on network television. It has to be Seinfeld.

[Mike]

It's gonna be George's mom. No, Georgie. Georgie.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it?

[Brandon]

It's not from Step by Step, is it?

[Mike]

Oh, I don't remember that. Oh, yeah, that mom was Suzanne Summers. Susan Summers, but that's not it.

[Brandon]

I'm gonna guess Michelle Pfeiffer.

[Bobby Bones]

No. Stupid.

[Mike]

Dangerous Minds, the TV series.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh? 80.

[Mike]

Not Seinfeld.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you want a hint?

[Mike]

Yes. I'm thinking, like, huge shows. Like Cheers.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a huge show. Working Class.

[Mike]

Oh, Roseanne.

[Bobby Bones]

Roseanne. Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Roseanne Connor. Roseanne Barr.

[Mike]

What number is she?

[Bobby Bones]

Number two.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's good. Solid.

[Bobby Bones]

Cosby Show. Roseanne. The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Brady Bunch and Everybody Loves Raymond have in my list that I made up in seven minutes with really no time invested. The best TV moms.

[Mike]

That's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

But Catherine o' Hare, who died, she was great in the Last of Us. If you guys have watched that show, one of my favorite, Catherine o'.

[Mike]

Hare.

[Bobby Bones]

Catherine o'. Hare. Hair, not hara.

[Mike]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

O'.

[Mike]

Hara.

[Bobby Bones]

Catherine o'. Hara.

[Mike]

I think o' Hare is the airport.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what it is.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

And what you're talking about, Roseanne, that's Illinois best in show. Yeah.

[Brandon]

So good.

[Bobby Bones]

I love best in show. Excellent. That Home Alone, Schitt's Creek. What else we got? Beetlejuice.

[Mike]

I forgot about that.

[Bobby Bones]

She was also just in the studio. Apple plus show with Seth Rogen.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Brandon]

Seth Rogen replaced her, right?

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean?

[Brandon]

Like, her role? Like, is she spoiling something? She was the pr. She was the president, and he got her job.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh. At the very beginning of the show. Okay. Dang spoiler, Brandon.

[Brandon]

Just sorry that out.

[Mike]

My bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Anything else about her, Mike, that comes to mind? She was what, 71? Yeah. I mean, they just said she got really sick really quickly and then that was it. Yeah. Rest in peace. Super Bowl 60 deserves a sportsbook built for the moment. DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of Super Bowl 60, puts you right in the center of the biggest game of the year. And when anything can happen during the Super Bowl, DraftKings has your back with early exit. If a player goes down in the first half, you still get paid out in cash immediately once your bet settles. No bonus bets, no waiting. Patriots versus Seahawks next Sunday. New to DraftKings, you can bet just five bucks and get 300 in bonus bets if your bet wins. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app now. Use the code Bobby Sports. That's the code. Bobby Sports. Turn five bucks into 300 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours.

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[Bobby Bones]

This is a sports show.

[Mike]

I know, but we all watch movies. I know.

[Bobby Bones]

And that just happened. So I was. Diddling away on my phone back there, making those notes. I have some other stuff you want to do. Another list?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I made a list of greatest NFL coaches of our lifetime. And I bring this up because Bill Belichick did not make first ballot hall of Fame. He will make the second for sure. If you want to hear us go in depth on that, you can listen to our episode of Lots to say. I understand why he didn't make it. I also said he should have made it. However, I'll give you just a quick version of what I said. If these voters are being consistent with what other voters have done. Like Barry Bonds isn't in Greatest hitter of all Time because he cheated. Pete Rose isn't in Greatest Hitter of all Time because he bet on baseball. Bill Belichick cheated.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

For at least two.

[Mike]

Couple times. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Two big scans that we know of. Yeah. I still think he's the greatest coach and I think he should be in the hall of Fame. And I also think they shouldn't have kept him out. But I think Barry Bond should be in the hall of Fame.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think Pete Rose should be in the hall of Fame. But I understand why. Because other sports do the same thing where they penalize or punish the people that deserve to go in. They haven't let Barry Wands in yet. They haven't let Pete Rose in, which I think they probably will.

[Mike]

Pete Rose, Yeah. Yeah. I think they were talking about that.

[Bobby Bones]

He's dead now. Yes, yes. So, so do.

[Mike]

Was there, do you think there was a little bit of talking in there and like campaigning.

[Bobby Bones]

It was other voters. Colts. Yeah. Bill Pollian. I mean, and then they had to convince him, plus 10 more because there are 50 people in the room. So, yeah, they had to whip up.

[Mike]

The votes and have to get what.

[Bobby Bones]

40 out of 50 to get in.

[Mike]

To get in.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So that means 11. That's Bill Polian plus 10. And like one of the guys, I think from a Kansas City newspaper was like, I didn't vote for him. Here's why. And I don't think anyone's saying he won't get in, but there's a different prestige to getting in as a first ballot hall of Famer.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And they didn't want to give him that.

[Mike]

That means it's like a no brainer.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like get him in. And Eli didn't make it again, huh?

[Bobby Bones]

Second year in a row he didn't make it.

[Mike]

Come on, Eli.

[Bobby Bones]

But like Terrell Owens didn't make it as a first ballot hall of Famer. He's one of the greatest wide receivers ever. But a lot of those sports writers or sports. I don't know what you call them now. Journalists.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

They didn't like them, so they didn't let him in.

[Mike]

Oh, that sucks.

[Bobby Bones]

So I have my top five greatest NFL coaches of our lifetime.

[Mike]

Okay. Our lifetime. Because I didn't go start in 1980.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh?

[Mike]

1980.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, sure. But I didn't know that. I didn't watch football when I came out.

[Mike]

But like, you know, Bill Walsh or whatever, like, he was big in the 80s.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I'm just saying I. There. Okay.

[Mike]

Yeah. I'm just wondering.

[Bobby Bones]

It's from 80 on.

[Mike]

80 on. All right.

[Bobby Bones]

How many can you name? I got five.

[Mike]

Go.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, easy, dude.

[Mike]

Jimmy Johnson.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't put Jimmy Johnson.

[Mike]

That. That's a crime.

[Bobby Bones]

It is a crime. How many Super Bowls did he win?

[Mike]

Jimmy Johnson won two.

[Bobby Bones]

Right?

[Mike]

Two.

[Bobby Bones]

I think so, too. And that's why I didn't put him. And it was hard for me not to put him because Jimmy Johnson, you know, he played for. In college.

[Mike]

Yeah. Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

Correct.

[Mike]

With old Jerry Jones.

[Bobby Bones]

Won our national championship. Love Jimmy Johnson. Didn't put him.

[Mike]

Did he coach anywhere else?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Miami. University of Miami.

[Mike]

NFL. NFL. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, the Dolphins.

[Mike]

So he did go back to Miami. Cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But he won a national championship at Miami in college.

[Mike]

Yes. Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay. Barry Switzer.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm not just picking.

[Mike]

He didn't pick any Cowboys coaches.

[Bobby Bones]

No. Why would I? Wow.

[Brandon]

If he didn't pick Jimmy Johnson, why would he pick.

[Bobby Bones]

I definitely didn't pick Tom Landry because.

[Mike]

I knew he didn't count. Okay. I'm Bill Belichick for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Bill Belichick is the number one.

[Mike]

Yes. Let's be serious here. Let's go, Man. I can just think of, like, the. Oh, oh, Bill Parcells. Dude, he was Domination Station.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't pick Bill Parcels. I'll tell you this. Everybody on my list has at least three Super Bowls.

[Mike]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Bobby Bones]

So I didn't pick, like, Sean Payton. Could have thought about it. Everybody has three, but they're not in order. Somebody that has more than three is actually my number five pick.

[Mike]

All right. Holgren. Mike Holmgren is in there. Okay, then breed.

[Bobby Bones]

Andy Reed.

[Mike]

Andy Reed.

[Bobby Bones]

Correct.

[Mike]

At number two. He's got to be on there, and.

[Bobby Bones]

There could be a bit of recency bias there, but I don't think so. He's got three Super Bowls.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah. He's proved himself.

[Bobby Bones]

So at number two, Andy Reid.

[Mike]

Okay, and then.

[Bobby Bones]

You said one of these already.

[Mike]

A minute ago, I did Mike Holmgren.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that was, like, not even a minute ago.

[Mike]

I said one of these guys. What was I saying? Was I telling the story?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you were talking about somebody older, and then you gave up on them because I was explaining.

[Mike]

Oh, Bill Walsh.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Bill Walsh.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Three super bowl championships. I mean, he's. He invented the modern passing offense with Joe Montana. There's a new 49ers documentary.

[Mike]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

That's coming out.

[Mike]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

It's an AMC documentary.

[Mike]

I saw Joe Montana promoting it, and then I saw kind of a little teaser. That looks. Looks so awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I listened to an interview of Jerry Rice, and he was doing. He's doing somebody's show. I don't remember what the. Who the interview was, but Rich Eisen. It was Rich. Yeah. I was listening to the podcast, and he was on it. Okay, I got two more. One of them. I'll give you a hint.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

This coach won three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks.

[Mike]

Oh, wow. Dan Reeves.

[Bobby Bones]

And. And really, none of the quarterbacks were that good because they only won.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh, really.

[Narrator/Storyteller]

Man?

[Bobby Bones]

I can give you a hint who one of the quarterbacks was.

[Mike]

Go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

Mark Rippin.

[Mike]

Okay. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gibbs.

[Bobby Bones]

Joe Gibbs. Joe Gibbs won three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks.

[Mike]

Wow. And now he's dominating nascar.

[Bobby Bones]

Is he? Because I don't watch nascar.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, dude. He owns, like.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. Gibbs Racing is a thing, and he's.

[Mike]

Got all really great racers. Yeah. I think even his grandson's a racer who's doing really well at number five.

[Bobby Bones]

Is somebody who's won four Super Bowls.

[Mike]

Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

And the reason that I didn't put above the ones that were three because I barely remember them.

[Mike]

Oh, this is a long time ago.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I think he coached in the 90s, early 90s, but then was out and coached a long time there.

[Mike]

Did John Madden. No, John. Man. Retired early on.

[Bobby Bones]

Coached a long time. In this place, there's only Shanahan. No, not.

[Mike]

Not this Shanahan. Old Mike Shanahan. Right. Kyle? Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike is the old Bronx. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike]

Mike is who I'm thinking.

[Bobby Bones]

Before, just recently. This organization is known for keeping coaches a long time. Really? No changes.

[Mike]

Steelers.

[Bobby Bones]

Walk it back. Who was just a coach?

[Mike]

Yeah, Tomlin.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Who was the coach before him? Yeah.

[Mike]

Is what?

[Bobby Bones]

Don't tell him.

[Brandon]

Oh, sorry.

[Mike]

What'd you say? Nothing. No, I already know who you're talking about, but I can't remember his name now.

[Bobby Bones]

He does.

[Mike]

Television mustache.

[Bobby Bones]

Bill Cower.

[Mike]

Bill Cower. Is that Your guy?

[Bobby Bones]

No one before him.

[Mike]

Oh, the one before Bill Cower. Chuck Noel.

[Bobby Bones]

That's it. Really? Yeah. You got it, dude.

[Mike]

You know how I remember Chuck Noel? NFL films. Like that video? Because that VHS cassette you would get, like, when you buy, like, Blue jeans or something.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he coached starting, like, the late 60s all the way to 91. I'd have to look that up. But he won four Super Bowls in six seasons.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

So he hit them all pretty quick there.

[Mike]

I mean, did he coach, like, Terry Bradshaw?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Brandon]

They didn't get along too well back then.

[Bobby Bones]

You just. To be a quarterback, you just had to hand it off good. Didn't even throw the ball. Really?

[Mike]

Those were the tryouts.

[Bobby Bones]

It was.

[Mike]

Man, look at the way he hands the ball off.

[Bobby Bones]

Pretty good. You. Do you like Bill Belichick?

[Mike]

Not really. No.

[Bobby Bones]

Didn't seem like a super likable guy.

[Mike]

No. He doesn't look like the way I look at coaches. Like, I'm kind of like, what I. Would it be fun to play for him? 1. What's his personality like? You know, like, he looks like he has a rotten personality. However, you see, like, I don't know, that video that Randy Moss posted a long time ago where he invited him to a Halloween party.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you remember that? Oh, no, I don't see the video.

[Mike]

Dude, it's awesome. It's like, it's hidden camera, pretty much.

[Bobby Bones]

Do they jump out of a plane with no parachute? That's kind of videos I watch.

[Mike]

No. Randy Moss goes into coach's office, and he's like, hey, Coach, I got my Halloween party going on. You know that I do every year. Like, would love for you and the wife to come out. And he's like, really, really, like, really, like. Oh, I mean, that. That sounds. That sounds fun. He's like, no, we'd really like the boys. We'd all love you there. He's like, all right, I'll think about it. And then it cuts to him at the party, and he's, like, dressed like a pirate, and he's dancing on the dance floor.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it real?

[Mike]

Yes, dude, it is awesome. So there's been that video that's kind of changed my mind. I'm like, maybe he's not like that, you know, grumpy or whatever, but I.

[Bobby Bones]

Went heavy list today.

[Mike]

Okay? I love it.

[Bobby Bones]

It's kind of what I resort to when I'm like. Because it's a Super bowl week and there's really not a lot to talk about, unless you want to jump back into the Patriots and Seahawks and, like, save that for next week.

[Mike]

We will.

[Bobby Bones]

I have the most disliked people in sports. And on the football side of things, I do have Belichick.

[Mike]

Yeah. Disliked.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I have four other people. Is there anybody you dislike in football?

[Mike]

I did dislike Tom Brady.

[Bobby Bones]

He made the list.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think he makes the list mostly because he won a lot. But also there was the cheating part of it as well. Yes. So they won a lot. They were pretty cocky about it. But also there was the layering of. You cheated.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You got caught cheating.

[Mike]

Yep. Your ball was flat. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And not. And more so that one, like, deflate Spygate.

[Mike]

Spygate.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy.

[Mike]

But I'll put that one on Tom Brady, though.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't think, though that was helping them win there?

[Mike]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

It was taking practices.

[Mike]

It definitely was. But I think this, the, the football was him going like, hey, man, I throw the ball better with it flat.

[Bobby Bones]

A little bit, for sure. I don't even think that was a real scandal.

[Mike]

You don't think so?

[Bobby Bones]

Not really. That one to me was so secondary. Like, they were just searching.

[Mike]

But you know what's weird about that is, like, I just feel like you're asking for that when you ask for teams to provide their own balls, you're like, if you're going to ask the team to provide their own ball, like, why not just do whatever you want with it?

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm sure they did whatever they want with a lot. That was probably a normal ass.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what I think.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so you got Belichick and Brady. So is it all football in this version? It is because I did all sports.

[Mike]

Okay. Because I, I, I'm starting to dislike him more and more. Is Patrick Mahomes why He only wins.

[Bobby Bones]

And he's super nice.

[Mike]

I, I feel like I did like him and I rooted for him. And now his little finger thing and just kind of the way he feels like he has to do everything to win games. I don't know. Don't like. I'm starting to not like Patrick Mahomes.

[Bobby Bones]

Hater. That's hater right there. Because I'm not a Chiefs fan, I have nothing negative to say about Patrick Mahomes. All the finger stuff that you see is because they focus on him way more. So you notice all the little idiosyncrasies.

[Mike]

Yeah. I don't know. Is there something.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's what it is. But you're a hater.

[Mike]

But see, even, like, you know how his wife was getting? What? She's been great Lately, like, she's.

[Bobby Bones]

Lately.

[Mike]

She was so vocal and whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

But now you're looking for reasons to hate him. If you're looking towards his wife.

[Mike]

I think it just. Just all added up to where now, recently, I'm just kind of like, not a fan.

[Bobby Bones]

I think if the Cowboys were better, you wouldn't hate him as much.

[Mike]

What is that supposed to mean? That I wouldn't focus on that.

[Bobby Bones]

You're just looking to put some sort of emotion on something. And you can't put your happiness into your Cowboys, and you can't attach happiness to somebody else because you're a Cowboys fan. So you must attach the other emotion, which is hate.

[Mike]

And I'm taking it out on Patrick Mahomes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And again, I'm not a Patrick Mahomes apologist because I'm not a Chiefs fan.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm definitely not a hater. I like to see sustained success. It's so rare. Okay.

[Mike]

Baker Mayfield.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't have them on the list. I can see where people get annoyed with them.

[Mike]

Just annoying.

[Bobby Bones]

I wish there would be a scandal of, like, over inflate Gate, like some quarterback. Once their ball's super fat. And all of a sudden you see. You see the ball. Something seems weird there. Chuck and the rest run in and it looks like one of those balls at Walmart.

[Mike]

It doesn't even look like a ball.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah. It's almost a round, bouncy ball. And they're like, why did you like that? It's easier to catch, man.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I throw it.

[Bobby Bones]

He can throw with one hand because it's round. Wouldn't over inflate. Gave me a funny one.

[Mike]

That'd be really funny.

[Bobby Bones]

Baker Mayfield's a good one. I didn't put that on my list because I guess I didn't think of them. But I can see why people get annoyed at him all the way from back in Oklahoma.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he comes from a background of always being the guy that no one believed in. Being a walk on. Being a walk. Going to Oklahoma. Walking on. Yeah, but. Yeah, but also he was the number one overall pick.

[Mike]

He was. He was. But he did go play.

[Bobby Bones]

He did go play for Cleveland and they sucked. He didn't want a playoff game. They have a messed up shoulder. But then everyone's like, you suck again. And then he goes. And he plays for the Panthers and they suck. So, like, Baker still sucks, but then he goes to the Rams and wins that game on Thursday Night Football.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

There for a week.

[Mike]

And I get it. He's he's smaller. You know, he's a smaller quarterback, and he's got to play tougher. But I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a guy that you like him on your team. You hate him if he's not. Yes. I didn't put him in my basketball one, but I would say the same thing about Pat Bev.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because Pat Bev doesn't play right now, so I didn't put him on the list. But Pat Bev, you hate him if he's not on your team. You freaking love him if he is. Because he pokes, he prods, he plays hard, but he's also doing everything to win.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That some people would see as a little integrity. Integrity. Integrityless.

[Mike]

Well, that's word, but it sounds right. Thank you. Smart, too.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, I got three more on football.

[Mike]

They have to be current.

[Bobby Bones]

All three of these people are active in the NFL.

[Mike]

Okay. Michael Parsons. Screw that guy.

[Bobby Bones]

That's you. Because he used to be a Cowboy. I'll give you one. This one's a tough one. Because he's not an active player. He does something other than play.

[Mike]

Oh, in football, he does. Oh, he's a commentator. Is it Romo?

[Bobby Bones]

It's not a commentator, but that's a good one because people are starting to really hate Romo.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I don't hate Romo. I used to love Romo as a commentator, but now he is kind of getting annoying. I don't know what's happened.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I'm still nailing things, though.

[Bobby Bones]

But I try not to be influenced by group think and group speak.

[Mike]

You think Nance gets annoyed?

[Bobby Bones]

Sometimes I just find myself rolling my eyes a little as he's talking.

[Mike]

You're not the only one. I know.

[Bobby Bones]

And I don't feel like I have hater mentality. Like I root for people to do good in that type of job.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's not a commentator. It's not a coach.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

This person gets booed a lot.

[Mike]

Ah. I don't know why, but I'm thinking of that. Who's the security guy for the Eagles? Yeah, I know. It's not him, though.

[Bobby Bones]

This person, when he walks out, he gets booed.

[Mike]

Oh, when he walks out. Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

It's even tradition now to boo this person when they walk out, even if you don't hate him. But a lot of people don't like him and make him kind of the scapegoat.

[Mike]

Oh, he's an owner and he probably.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but Jerry Jones would have been a good one.

[Mike]

Yeah. Jerry Jones.

[Bobby Bones]

I like Jerry Jones a lot, but. No, not Jerry Jones. But I think. I think I missed on that one because a lot of people don't like Jerry Jones.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people. Even Cowboys fans. I got. I need to know kind of what.

[Bobby Bones]

Always wears a suit. I shook his hand once and almost. He almost crashed my hand. Like.

[Mike]

Oh, Elway wears a suit.

[Bobby Bones]

Makes a ton of. I think he makes like 20 million a year. Maybe more than that.

[Mike]

What is he, an agent? Like, is he a GM? Who's the 49ers GM? He kind of. He kind of annoys me a little bit.

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[Mike]

Yeah. Lynch. I don't know why.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you're a Cowboys fan. It all roots back to you being a Cowboys.

[Mike]

Kind of annoying as me every time.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you nailed it? I think I know it. Go ahead. Roger Goodell. Roger Goodell.

[Mike]

Oh, man. Poor guy. He can't win.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he can't win.

[Mike]

He can't win.

[Bobby Bones]

Job where you can't win.

[Mike]

It doesn't matter what he does.

[Bobby Bones]

I have two other people on my football list.

[Mike]

Hold on. You shook his hand?

[Bobby Bones]

Super bowl in Miami.

[Mike]

Wow. Did you talk to him at all or just handshake? What'd y' all talk about?

[Bobby Bones]

Did you.

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[Bobby Bones]

I wasn't the main person in our group, and a lot of groups, it's like, oh, look, there's Body Bones. All his friends. I was with Andy Roddick.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Brooklyn.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And me.

[Brandon]

Michelle Feifer.

[Bobby Bones]

Michelle Fer. And so I think he had known Andy a little bit.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

So I was just standing around.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Just that same night, though, we went from Roger Goodell's party where I spent time with Jerry Jones, the first time ever. It was an owner's party, but it was one that. Because we went to an owner's party last year. United.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And you saw everybody, but there were so many people.

[Mike]

You weren't about to go up to anyone.

[Bobby Bones]

We did see Bill. Bill Belichick, though.

[Mike]

We saw Belichick. We. We saw Lauren. Lauren. His girlfriend, Jordan. Jordan. Jordan Hudson?

[Bobby Bones]

No, Jordan Hudson.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Saw her. Met her. You met her?

[Bobby Bones]

I met her at the. Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

I was at the Owners.

[Bobby Bones]

I met her the night before when we're doing the awards.

[Mike]

Oh, at the honors.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, that's cool. I. I think where I got starstruck was I saw. Is it Mark Davis?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. With a haircut. That was awesome.

[Mike]

Dude. I saw him from a distance.

[Bobby Bones]

The first owner's party that I went to, because I. I believe that super bowl was the. I think it was the Saints and Colts. Was the super bowl in Miami? I think the Saints beat the Colts. I think that was the onside kick game. And I think the who played the halftime show. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's all pretty accurate.

[Mike]

And that was your first party, which.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So with the owner's party that night, I met Jerry Jones and I met Roger Goodell and then we went to another party. I'll get into the story. But we sidetracked, went to another party, and I met and actually spent half an hour with them. Jimmy Buffett.

[Mike]

No way. And what did you guys talk about?

[Bobby Bones]

We went to a party, but then we went to like a side room that Jimmy Buffett was in because Jimmy had played Andy's charity event. Yeah.

[Mike]

They didn't play each other. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so we just went and hung out with Jimmy Buffett in a side room at the party. And Jimmy Buffett was in his most relaxed. And he was wearing like a button up shirt.

[Mike]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

And like nice pants.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I just remember thinking, I thought in your most relaxed, you were like wearing Hawaiian shirts.

[Mike]

Yeah. Where are your flip flops? Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

It was super nice, though.

[Mike]

Yeah. That's awesome. When I met Jim Buffett, he was wearing a suit too. Too. And glasses. Like little circle glasses.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Glasses on.

[Mike]

You know, I was like, I don't.

[Bobby Bones]

Feel like a banker. Like an old man banker.

[Mike]

Yeah. Like he owned the bank.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And his. At the time, I think his. He has like a tequila or a vodka or something.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Was like the stadium sponsor, Margaritaville in Miami. No, it was a brand. It was like.

[Mike]

It wasn't Margaritaville. Oh, because they have tequila.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It was like swordfish or something. We look and see what Jimmy Buffett's alcohol line was. Or it's like, is it a beer Maybe.

[Mike]

Oh, land shark.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what it is.

[Mike]

Yeah. That's the beer.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I have two more people.

[Mike]

It's like Finn's. His song Landshark. Dude, you got fins to the left, fins to the right. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

What if you found out he'd never even seen the ocean? And that was the whole.

[Mike]

I mean, you know. Nah, I followed him on Instagram. He had a lot of beach pictures. But when. When you guys went to the. To your first owner's party, same kind of setup. Like 10.

[Bobby Bones]

No, wasn't as big.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Everybody was much easier to get to because when we went, there were 300 people or so when we went.

[Mike]

Yeah. In New Orleans, it was huge.

[Bobby Bones]

Massive areas. Like two areas.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And There were a lot of players at the one we went to there. It just wasn't as much of that.

[Mike]

We had that cool conversation with the doctor.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. He lived near me in Nashville.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But he was like the official NFL.

[Mike]

NFL doctor who, like, you know, worked. Works on making the game safer.

[Bobby Bones]

He goes is in New York, all the talk to his wife for a long time. Yeah, that was cool. We saw. It was the first time we saw Andrew Whitworth.

[Mike]

Whitworth, yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And he walked in and it. If this were 400 years ago, he'd be the king. Yeah. Of some random continent, because that's who was the king. The biggest, strongest people.

[Mike]

He'd be like Goliath.

[Bobby Bones]

He was a monster. And then I ran into him at the boxing gym in Nashville.

[Mike]

Oh, that's right. That's right.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, Mr. Wentworth.

[Mike]

I met you at the honors.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you remember me.

[Mike]

Also, too? That's the first. I saw Mike Tirico there. That was really cool.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't see him just like, you.

[Mike]

Know, these commentators or whatever. You just see him on screen all the time. And just when you see him in person, it's like, oh, it's a celebrity.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, we were rolling with Matt Castle as well. We all went together, and Matt knew everybody. And Matt is like the warmest and most welcoming person. He's like, just stay with me. Just stay with me. And so he would, like, get in these conversations and be like, come on. But I was like, we're not invited in this conversation.

[Mike]

What are we going to add to this conversation?

[Bobby Bones]

It was like, yeah, yeah, dude.

[Mike]

Face masks. I know. Annoying, right?

[Bobby Bones]

And so we just ended up going home. I was like, I'm just gonna.

[Mike]

You know, we went to go look at the trophy. Yeah, that was over there.

[Bobby Bones]

We Irish goodbye. And he was detecting.

[Mike]

Where'd you go?

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, dude, I went home.

[Mike]

Yeah.

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[Bobby Bones]

Okay, I got two more people on the list. You want hint number one.

[Mike]

Quarterback Dan Fouts. No, I'm just kidding.

[Bobby Bones]

Current.

[Mike]

Current quarterback. Not Mahomes. Not.

[Bobby Bones]

Might retire.

[Mike]

Oh. Philip Rivers. It might retire. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers. Everyone hates that dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Dislike. Only because he acts like he's smarter than everybody else.

[Mike]

But I think he likes that too. I think he likes that people don't like him.

[Bobby Bones]

And the number one or the. I mean, probably the number one person, but for sure, I don't know anybody that speaks out positively about this person.

[Mike]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Nobody. I don't know a single apologist for this person.

[Mike]

Position quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

Was injured last year. Makes a lot of money.

[Mike]

It's not Lamar Jackson. He's likable, dude. He makes a ton of money. Quarterback. Gosh, what am I blanking? Dude, I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

If he were to buy a business, he might invest in like a chain of massage envies.

[Mike]

You got it. It's gonna say Justin Tucker.

[Bobby Bones]

No. Okay. But you're on the right track. Who's the original Justin Tucker?

[Mike]

Oh, the original. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's. It's hard for me to think that he's a current football player.

[Bobby Bones]

Who is it?

[Mike]

It's. Dude, I've. I've blocked his name out of my head. Oh, Watson. No. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Deshaun Watson.

[Mike]

Deshaun Watson. So he's still on a roster somewhere. Yeah. Browns in Cleveland. Oh, boy. What if you're. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

The original Justin Tucker? Like not really the title you want.

[Mike]

No. Justin Tucker's done, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I would think so. Because I don't know what's happened in that case. I don't know if it's probably just civil case, I actually have no idea. And he hasn't been found guilty. Yeah, allegedly. I'll say that.

[Mike]

But that's crazy because like now, man, you're missing out. Everyone's getting kicking records. Like he gets everyone's get breaking kicking records.

[Bobby Bones]

Trouble can't come. And it's the first year that they are able to have the balls and they're able to like wear down the balls instead of. You get them at the beginning of the season and so you can wear them down.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Used to be you just get them game day. That's all you could do. You had to beat the crap out of them the day of the game. You want to do basketball. You only have three people hated all three players.

[Mike]

Most hated.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

LeBron.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Mike]

Luca. No, no, I don't feel like he's that all Lakers.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like some people are a bit annoyed with them, but.

[Mike]

Who'S Cat Carl? Anthony Towns?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. I would say this person is a more famous Pat Bev.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

That type of player.

[Mike]

So like a point guard.

[Bobby Bones]

Pep Bev.

[Mike]

Is he a point. Is a point guard.

[Bobby Bones]

I would say how Pat Bev plays. I don't know if I think Pat Bev's a 2. They're probably his point as well.

[Mike]

Those. I mean, the way Pat Bev plays is like kind of like the guy from the the Hawks.

[Bobby Bones]

But like, we'll fight you for sure.

[Mike]

Is it dram on green?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah, dude. But I like him.

[Bobby Bones]

I do too.

[Mike]

Like, I made him.

[Bobby Bones]

He like steps on people's chest.

[Mike]

He does.

[Bobby Bones]

Always fighting.

[Mike]

He does, but then he kind of laughs about it.

[Bobby Bones]

And number the last one here, not super famous, but super annoying when he plays.

[Mike]

Super annoying. See, I think that's Luca.

[Bobby Bones]

He is most famous to semi casuals. Picking a fight with LeBron and then losing.

[Mike]

Who would that be?

[Bobby Bones]

And he played in Memphis. He doesn't anymore. Oh, yeah, you got it.

[Mike]

Is jock.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no. Dylan Brooks.

[Mike]

Oh, Dylan Brooks. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I would never guess that Baseball. I have two. They don't play anymore. Neither one of them. Most hated players.

[Mike]

Ty Cobb, man, nobody could stand that dude.

[Bobby Bones]

That's true. I mentioned one of them earlier.

[Mike]

Oh, Barry Bonds.

[Bobby Bones]

Barry Bonds.

[Mike]

Because. Because of the cheating.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

What was his personality like?

[Bobby Bones]

Terrible. Terrible.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

People hated him. The other person people hated too.

[Mike]

Hey, Rod.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. Nailed it.

[Mike]

I can't stand a Rod.

[Bobby Bones]

I have one more category and I don't know, I just wrote this because I've just heard people talk bad about them NASCAR drivers.

[Mike]

Oh, I thought you're gonna go hockey. Oh, man, we're in trouble.

[Bobby Bones]

Nothing about hockey. I know very little about nascar, but these are just people that are. I think of whenever. If it's. I've heard people talk bad about him.

[Mike]

Okay, Kyle. Kyle Busch, Correct. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I did a show with him once.

[Mike]

You did?

[Bobby Bones]

And I didn't know who he was.

[Mike]

And then. And then he. You asked him, like, are you. What? You asked him? And he said, I'm in the car business.

[Bobby Bones]

He's like. I was like, man, you had a. Because we were on Zoom at the same time doing it like a trivia show, and he had a massive doorway behind him. And I was like, that doorway is huge. What do you do? Because it was like. We weren't. We're a commercial. Because I'm in the car business.

[Mike]

Car business.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't find out until later it was Kyle Bush. That's funny. But I wouldn't have known anyway because I'm not intelligent in nascar.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

No knowledge, no intelligence. I have two others here, man.

[Mike]

So is this, like, current racers?

[Bobby Bones]

I think they both race.

[Mike]

Okay. It's gonna be Chase Elliott.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't put him. Don't know who that is.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Has he ever been on our show?

[Mike]

Possibly.

[Bobby Bones]

He has been on our show.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You.

[Brandon]

You interviewed him?

[Mike]

No, I interviewed Kyle Larson.

[Brandon]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

You did. You.

[Brandon]

You interviewed Chase.

[Bobby Bones]

It was nice. You did. Dude, I've never sat with a NASCAR guy who wasn't nice. So if it's Chase Elliott, then awesome.

[Mike]

I know who it is. It's Joey Logano.

[Bobby Bones]

Joey Logano is one of them.

[Mike]

But.

[Bobby Bones]

But have I interviewed him? Yes, and he's awesome.

[Mike]

He's come to our studio. He gave you a helmet.

[Bobby Bones]

It. Oh, that's what that was.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I liked him.

[Mike]

So nice, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Is he. Then why do people not like him?

[Mike]

Because he's just aggressive driver and he'll do cheap stuff. Oh, he'll, like, spin you out.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it. And then I have one more. Don't know if I've interviewed him or not. I remember once. This reminds me of this. While you think about that, I was doing Running Wild with Bear Grylls, and it was just Bear and I in Norway, and I said, man, you work with a lot of famous people. I said, some of them have to be nice. Some of them have to be annoying. He goes, generally when we're out in this element and everyone feels like they're not the master of their domain, they're pretty nice. He said, no. Also, they're on camera. They're pretty nice. I said, do you ever get starstruck if someone's super famous? And he said, no, not really. And he said the one person that he thought was really cool that he got to work with because he was just a genuine fan was Roger Federer because he's a massive tennis fan. So he was talking about how awesome that was and he said something like, Roger's time was a bit limited as compared to most people, but we still did a day and a half and it was great. He said where it's weird for him was he'll be with people and they are massively famous, but he doesn't really know what they do. Meaning he knows that they'll give him an idea. But he has. He's not been exposed to their work at all or wouldn't be in that world. Especially when it comes to international. Because he goes and does. He was with whomever runs India. I don't know if they have a president or prime minister. He did. And he's like, I don't really know. He goes, I know his job and it's big. But people like adored, worshiped or hated this guy. And there was another like Korean singer that was a monster, like worldwide. He goes, I have no idea who it was. I knew he was super famous, so I was just enjoying him for the person he was. But I had no idea and still really don't. For their art. But he would just understand that they were wildly famous without even knowing really what their worker art was.

[Mike]

Yeah, because it's.

[Bobby Bones]

It's us.

[Mike]

Right? It's us. When we know they're famous, we start acting weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is why when you talk about these race car drivers, who are the two we said that I've interviewed? I have no idea.

[Mike]

Joey Logano.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't remember him.

[Mike]

Yeah. And then Chase Elliot, Chase Elliott.

[Bobby Bones]

They're the same person. In my mind.

[Mike]

They're not.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a dark haired dude that came in and was. And was super nice and super skinny.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was Joey.

[Bobby Bones]

They were super. Not everybody was super nice.

[Mike]

And I think Chase La, we did through Zoom. So I don't think you've met him. Oh, no, no. He was in person.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Kyle Busch was on Zoom and like him.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I didn't dislike him, but he was, he, he was a little prickly.

[Mike]

He. I think he would be number one, like the most.

[Bobby Bones]

Also when I said, what do you do? I can understand if he. When he got offended at that and he was. I was like, you have a huge doorway. What do you do.

[Mike]

Not really.

[Bobby Bones]

And his wife sat down beside him for a minute.

[Mike]

She really. She's, like, really pretty, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Really pretty.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I say, this is somebody who's not pretty. Really. Himself. Like, I get it. And he wasn't. So I thought, this guy must be super rich. I wonder what he does. Ended up Kyle Busch.

[Mike]

I love that.

[Bobby Bones]

So he might have been a little prickly because. And I wasn't being disrespectful on purpose. It was accidental. And I was like, I love the answer, dude. I was like, what do you do? I'm in the car business. Yeah.

[Mike]

That's a great answer.

[Bobby Bones]

One other person, man.

[Mike]

I don't know. Ryan Blaney.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that name sounds very familiar. I think we interviewed him.

[Mike]

I think you've met him or interviewed him? I met him.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he's the same person as Joey Logano.

[Mike]

He's not.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Mike]

He's not.

[Bobby Bones]

Does he look the same? Skinny brown, like, dark hair?

[Mike]

No, not really.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Do you know NASCAR drivers that I can name off my head? Earnhardt and Earnhardt. Senior.

[Mike]

Yeah. Not.

[Bobby Bones]

Not racing.

[Mike]

Trickle. Hey, dude, he was awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't know, man.

[Mike]

When he beat Russ Wheeler.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude.

[Mike]

At that last Daytona.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't even know if Russ Wheeler's a real person.

[Mike]

He wasn't.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Mike]

He was in the movie.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Dick. But Dick Trickle's real.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

No, Dick Trickle's real.

[Mike]

Oh, I thought you were talking about Cold Trickle.

[Bobby Bones]

No, Dick Trickle is a real driver.

[Mike]

No way. I didn't. I don't know who Dick Trickle is. Did they. Did they base Cole Trickle after Dick?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably. Unless I'm crazy. I thought Dick Trickle was, like, an 80s. Yeah, he is. Okay.

[Mike]

Okay. And Cole is the fictional Tom Cruise. Okay. Days of Thunder. Dang, dude. Good job.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so you got the two.

[Mike]

Earnhardt.

[Bobby Bones]

Mark.

[Mike]

The one we met.

[Bobby Bones]

Guy from Arkansas.

[Mike]

Okay. I. I know for a fact. You know, two more. Maybe three more. Four more. You know, Four more.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me go. Earnhardt. Young. Earnhardt.

[Mike]

Old.

[Bobby Bones]

Rest in peace because he died. Right.

[Mike]

Senior, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Mustache.

[Mike]

Come on. That's one of the ones I know. You know.

[Bobby Bones]

Robert O. King, Jr. Nope.

[Mike]

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

[Bobby Bones]

I got in a stupid game now.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Where I feel like an idiot.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Bobby Bones]

Stp.

[Mike]

Yes. That was a sponsor.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Brandon]

It's also a good band.

[Bobby Bones]

Stp. And he wears a cowboy hat. And he's still alive.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

But he's. He's old now.

[Mike]

The cowboy hat had feathers in the front.

[Bobby Bones]

I can picture him.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Bobby Bones]

Sunglasses. The mustache. Okay. Let me Come back to him. Marco, mira. No.

[Mike]

Marco. Mira.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a golfer. No, there's a mark, though. That's this famous Arkansas race car driver.

[Mike]

Not. Not. There's three more that I know that you know include. And then Rusty Wallace. Oh, good one, dude. I didn't think you know that one. That's good.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you say it Rusty though, a second ago?

[Mike]

No. Okay.

[Brandon]

Oh, you said Rusty Wheeler.

[Mike]

Russ Wheeler.

[Brandon]

Russ Wheeler.

[Mike]

He's fake. He's from Days of Thunder.

[Bobby Bones]

That triggered that. Think.

[Brandon]

Think Free fallen.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, no, I don't want. I don't want any hints.

[Mike]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's like big time hint. Yeah, I don't. I don't want any hits now because Richard Petty. Because he gave me the hand.

[Mike]

There we go. That's the one you were trying to get?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

All right. There's three more that I know. You know.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

You've met two of them.

[Bobby Bones]

Who's the dude that liked Amy's feet?

[Mike]

That's one of them. I know you know his name.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that not Kyle Busch?

[Mike]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

People don't like that guy.

[Mike]

No, they did not like that guy. Home Depot was a sponsor.

[Bobby Bones]

That's not gonna help me at all.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Bert, Brett B. I don't know. Mark o' Meara comes back. Okay. Who's that one? Tony Stewart. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't have got there, but yeah, I remember.

[Mike]

Okay. And then there was a really good looking one.

[Bobby Bones]

Known for being really good looking.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So he had to like have a bunch of endorsement deals.

[Mike]

Yeah, he was that little. He. I'd say he was pretty.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Jeff Gordon.

[Mike]

Jeff Gordon. Good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah, he's hot. That's how I get it.

[Mike]

He's so hot.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm like, which race car driver gave me a boner?

[Mike]

There's one that you met that's still a current driver and you met him when you met Tony Stewart. Still current. And I think he's probably the one that's hated the one I have on.

[Bobby Bones]

My list that we have possibly.

[Mike]

Who's a current Denny Hamlin.

[Bobby Bones]

That's who's on my list.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Have I met him?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, was he nice?

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, yeah, he's nice.

[Bobby Bones]

Not really, but nothing but.

[Mike]

What was he going to be mean to you about?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Mike]

I think he was just regular.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have the mark? No.

[Mike]

From Arkansas. Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to say it. You're going to know who he is.

[Mike]

I don't think. Who is it?

[Bobby Bones]

Mark Martin. Is he from Arkansas? He is.

[Mike]

Okay. Is he a current Driver. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Mark Martin, 67 years old. He's nicknamed the Kid. He's from Batesville, Arkansas.

[Mike]

Is that who you're thinking of?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You know who else is. Is well known because he has car dealerships is Waltrip.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Daryl Waltrip.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd have named him as if he said, who owns car dealerships?

[Mike]

Daryl Walter.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd have just named random people. I think there's one more you would not. Really? Yeah.

[Mike]

Has he met him?

[Bobby Bones]

Him like, Ricky Bobby doesn't care.

[Mike]

Oh, they love it. I love it. I know what he's talking about. Oh, you. You know this driver.

[Bobby Bones]

Is there a. Is Jimmy Johnson also a race car driver? Yes. He was not just a coach.

[Mike]

Was. Yeah. Who. Who Mike is thinking of. I've. I've met this person.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not gonna know who it is.

[Mike]

I'm not gonna.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just not gonna get it.

[Mike]

But. But I know. I know you will. I don't even want to give it to you.

[Bobby Bones]

Michelle Pfeiffer.

[Mike]

So close.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Danica Patrick.

[Mike]

Danica Patrick.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think I met her. You've not met her unless I was with you. And you remember meeting.

[Mike]

I saw her on the road one time. That was crazy. I was at a red light and I look over, she was in a pickup truck. And I was. And I was like, I know that face. And then I thought about it for, like, hours. I'm like, danica Patrick, Really?

[Bobby Bones]

She was with Aaron Rodgers for a little bit. Yes.

[Brandon]

For that.

[Mike]

Yep. I think that's when he was in Nashville a little bit. Right? You come to Nashville because she lived here.

[Bobby Bones]

He still, like, has a house. Is he?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Is he.

[Mike]

Is he having a house? All right, is that. Do you have any more lists?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I made like, five of them.

[Mike]

That's fun, dude. That was a lot of fun.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's what we got for you today here on the podcast.

[Mike]

Good stuff.

[Bobby Bones]

Anything else? Anything you wanted to mention?

[Mike]

No, no, I'm just. Are you gonna do a big parlay for Super Bowl? Because I like riding with you on these parlays.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't. I've not been doing great. This whole year's not me good. I had a terrible 25.

[Mike]

No, I know, but I'm not. I'm not putting a lot of money. But when you put those little fives.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't jump on a lot of those I hit, but some of those I hit. Oh, you mean like the multi level in game ones?

[Mike]

Yeah, I've jumped on. I've jumped on all those with you.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I might be. I. I've lost more than I've won, but because those have such big odds, I think I'm actually up.

[Mike]

Because one. Because you just got to hit two. One or two of those.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. Because I've hit them for, like, thousands of dollars. Like, I'll bet $300. Lose, lose, lose. But hit one for like 2700 bucks. I think I might be up. And they're fun. Because what I do is I drop down. If it's like Drake made passing yards and kind of the minus 110 is 240, I'll go down, like 210.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then I'll go. And then I'll move them all back a little bit and then chase, like, one real hard one. Yeah, it's like plus 660.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, that's pretty good.

[Mike]

You see those odds change by that much, it gets excited. Pretty good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I'll do that for a game. I'm actually gonna. We're gonna be at home for the super bowl instead of there.

[Mike]

That's. That's exciting. I mean, it's. It's cool. Like. Like, when we went last year, it was awesome. Yeah. Like, it was.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because she's never been.

[Mike]

So it was cool. Amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

But I want to watch it on tv.

[Mike]

But I do. I'm excited to watch it on TV again, you know, with all the snacks and everything. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And like the comfort and.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And when you lose your Betsy, you get to go to your bed.

[Mike]

You get to go. Close the door and go to bed.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you guys for listening. We will see you next week, for sure. And then gonna be at super bowl interviewing a bunch of cool people. Like I said, we have Bo Jackson. It's going to be on with us. Eddie's still like 50.

[Mike]

50 on being able to go TBD.

[Bobby Bones]

He said he was gonna go, and then he's not gonna be able to go. Yeah, and then he's like, I don't know. Don't let me commit now.

[Mike]

I said, just give me. Give me a couple more days to figure out the situation. I'm trying to go. So we'll. We'll see tbd.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you want to hear who we have? Kinda.

[Mike]

I already heard the Bo Jackson.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that hurts.

[Mike]

Dude. That is so freaking cool. Bo Jackson is someone that I would have just died to meet when I was a kid.

[Bobby Bones]

Sean Alexander.

[Mike]

That's amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is cool because the Seahawks are in. It'd be cool anyway, but the Seahawks are actually in the super bowl. So that's cool. You don't like wrestling.

[Mike]

But I do know the wrestlers, though. Like, who would?

[Bobby Bones]

Nobody. You would know.

[Mike]

Who's coming.

[Bobby Bones]

Seth Rollins.

[Mike]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Mike]

That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Rod Woodson. Cool. Bo Jackson.

[Mike]

Amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

And then some others.

[Mike]

I mean, last year we had Emmett Dion, Terrell Davis. Like, we had so many. Did you talk to Jaden? Jaden Daniels?

[Bobby Bones]

This is just who we have right now.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know. So amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

I hope you get to come, man.

[Mike]

I'm working on it. I'm working on it.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you, everybody. And I guess we do we have a. Oh, there we go. Blow us still blow the whistle. Thank you. We didn't really do one at the beginning.

[Mike]

Mike travels with a whistle in post.

[Bobby Bones]

Can we insert it?

[Mike]

Yeah. It's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Hold on. We have to be quiet when he does it, so. So, yeah. So when you heard the one at the beginning of the show, just that. That's the one that was imposed in and we only did it after.

[Mike]

Ah, the magic.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, see you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on media social socials at brandonraymusic. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host producereddy, segment producer ickoffkevin and executive producer ikevistro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

[Narrator/Storyteller]

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[Bobby Bones]

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