25W: The Mistake that Led to Bobby Losing $3K + NCAAM Analyst Jeff Goodman on the Next UNC Head Coach + Why an NBA Player Asked Bobby for Business Advice

Summary

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The Bobby Bones Show – Episode: 25W: The Mistake that Led to Bobby Losing $3K + NCAAM Analyst Jeff Goodman on the Next UNC Head Coach + Why an NBA Player Asked Bobby for Business Advice

Date: March 26, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones with Eddie, Kevin, and guests
Featured Guest: Jeff Goodman (college basketball analyst)

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Episode Overview

This episode of 25 Whistles centers on Bobby's costly memorabilia mistake, his personal insights into sports business advice for NBA pros, and a deep-dive with analyst Jeff Goodman on major coaching searches across college basketball – especially UNC, Kansas, and Kentucky. The crew also covers NBA and MLB headlines, unique sports collectibles stories, and how Arkansas’ tournament run impacts Bobby as a fan.

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Main Episode Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Bobby’s $3,000 Mistake: The Sun-Faded Cowboys Helmet

[03:41 – 12:34]

• Bobby reveals he left a triple-signed Dallas Cowboys helmet (Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman) in his studio window, resulting in all signatures fading and devaluing the collectible.
  • “I left it in the window, and the sun completely faded all three of the [autographs].” – Bobby Bones (06:05)
• The crew jokes about tracing autographs to salvage it, ultimately declaring it mostly trash (with Eddie gladly taking it).
  • “It’s just a helmet… It’s a 90s literal 90s Cowboys helmet.” – Bobby Bones (11:01)
• Memorable moment: Eddie recalls his son “ruining” a World Series baseball by signing it “Babe Ruthe” in Sharpie, drawing Sandlot parallels.
• Playful banter about the pain of losing special memorabilia and what, if anything, could make the item cool again.

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2. Old-School Football Debates & Troy Aikman’s "Players Are Soft" Take

[08:39 – 10:05]

• Bobby and crew dissect Troy Aikman’s comments about today’s NFL players being injury-prone due to less physical training camps.
  • “Is this just old-school guys saying old-school stuff?” – Bobby Bones (08:48)
  • “I think it’s faster. I think guys are stronger.” – Bobby Bones (09:40)
• They compare eras, debating whether the NFL is tougher or simply more evolved now.

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3. Shohei Ohtani’s Value & Opening Day

[12:37 – 14:09]

• Discussion of Shohei Ohtani’s historic World Baseball Classic jersey sale ($1.5M) and potential GOAT status in baseball.
  • “He may be the greatest baseball player of all time already.” – Bobby Bones (12:48)
• The group weighs in on MLB opening day excitement, noting how attention is split with March Madness.

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4. NBA Headlines, Player Development, and Business Advice

[14:09 – 18:40]

• Bobby outlines key NBA storylines: The Lakers’ resurgence (with LeBron now “third option”), the deep Thunder roster, and the Spurs’ young core.
  • “The Lakers are now good. It’s wild... LeBron is now the third option.” – Bobby Bones (14:36)
• Bobby shares his early NIL deal with Jalen Williams (now NBA player) and how Williams turned to Bobby for business/money advice after entering the NBA.
  • “He would call and be like, ‘Hey, what am I supposed to do? Like, with money? I don't want to lose it all.’” – Bobby Bones (17:07)
  • Bobby’s tip: invest in property, splurge only modestly before your “second deal.”
• Relatable exchange about financial anxiety, business managers, and checking accounts obsessively to avoid “Dane Cook/Billy Joel” scenarios.
  • “I check all my accounts three times a day. Because I'm so scared of being Dane Cook’d…” – Bobby Bones (24:48)
• Notable group honesty about sports income and life after a big contract.

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5. Sports Curses, Guest Luck, and Unique Memorabilia

[27:23 – 32:38]

• The pod discusses the "hex" power of the show (Clemson struggles, Panthers’ playoff run, NASCAR's Tyler Reddick winning after appearing).
  • “We have major power on this podcast.” – Eddie (27:27)
• Bobby recounts more sports memorabilia woes: a pair of Michael Jordan-signed Carolina blue shoes (hard to see signature), and quirky collectibles like Pizza Hut "Pie Tops" (Bluetooth pizza-ordering sneakers).
• Entertaining detours around rare basketball shoes, the surgeon sneaker designer, and collectibility.
  • “I follow him on Instagram… The Surgeon. He takes some shoes apart, makes [new ones]…” – Bobby Bones (30:38)

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6. Tom Brady’s Never-ending "Comeback" Chatter

[32:44 – 35:36]

• Discussion on Tom Brady teasing another NFL comeback despite partial team ownership.
  • “He would need to divest his ownership stake in the Raiders and there'd be salary cap… Just wants to be in the news.” – Kevin (33:33)
• Tangent about athlete-run side businesses, like memorabilia shops, and how celebrities often lease their names rather than own outright.
  • “They just lease their name… It’s Luke Bryan or Jason Aldean’s bar, but they don’t own the bar.” – Bobby Bones (34:53)

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Feature Interview – Jeff Goodman on NCAA Coaching Carousel & Draft

(Starts [41:01]) Key Discussion Highlights

North Carolina Coaching Search (from 41:01)

• Goodman: UNC will go outside the family for the next head coach; prime candidates are Billy Donovan, Dusty May (Michigan), Tommy Lloyd (Arizona), T.J. Otzelberger (Iowa State).
  • “There’s nobody left, good enough… they’re going to go for big names that are proven.” – Jeff Goodman (41:01)
  • On Donovan: Many close to him want him out of Chicago; he’s built for college but it’s unclear if he wants to return.
• UNC isn’t considering “rough around the edges” coaches (e.g. Nate Oats, Todd Golden).

Kansas and Bill Self’s Future (from 46:59)

• Goodman: Expects Bill Self to retire due to health issues. “I talked to Bill yesterday… he said, ‘I still love it, still want to coach’ but… at some point you say to yourself, is it worth it?” (47:10)
• If Self leaves, Kansas will likely target bigger names; Jaque Vaughn (current assistant, ex-NBA) could be a fallback.
  • Kansas is open to “edgier” coaches versus UNC.

Kentucky’s Mark Pope Under Pressure (from 51:51)

• Despite not changing coaches this year, Mark Pope at Kentucky is “on the hot seat” for next season after underperforming with college basketball’s most expensive roster ($20 million).
  • “You’ve got to be better than what they were… you can’t use [injuries] as an excuse.” – Jeff Goodman (52:09)
• Goodman says Kentucky lacks a “general manager” to actively manage the transfer portal, an essential role in today’s landscape.

NBA Draft: Top Prospects & Darius Acuff (from 53:55)

• Goodman projects the top picks: AJ DeBonsa “has probably taken over the number one spot,” then Darren Peterson, with Arkansas’ Darius Acuff possibly top five.
  • Goodman notes skepticism around Peterson's competitiveness after a tumultuous year: “They didn’t control the narrative well at all… everybody’s kind of wondering what’s going on.” (49:34)
• Comments on how NBA teams will closely investigate both medical and character aspects, especially for Peterson.

Legendary Sweet 16 Matchups & Tournament Insights (from 56:21)

• Goodman previews Sweet 16 games: excited for Duke vs. St. John’s (Shire vs. Pitino), UConn vs. Michigan State, Arizona vs. Arkansas (Malik Thomas and Trevor Brazil as key Arkansas factors).

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Closing & Arkansas Basketball Reflections

[61:24 – 66:19]

• Bobby reflects on Arkansas’ season, enjoying the run regardless of the Sweet 16 outcome.
  • “If we don’t win, I’m going to be disappointed, but I’m going to be an adult and go: ‘That’s a fun season.’” – Bobby Bones (62:14)
• The group shares their viewing plans, superstitions, and makes light of future party possibilities (“Can we take the baby downtown?”).
• Eddie jokes that his kids now root for Arkansas "only because I do, and I only do it for you, so..."

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It just shows you: all you have to do is be human with somebody, and they’ll be human back.” – Bobby Bones, on defusing road rage (04:44)
• “I check my accounts three times a day. Because I’m so scared of being Dane Cook’d…” – Bobby (24:48)
• “We have major power on this podcast.” – Eddie, on guests’ good fortune (27:27)
• “You want me to come out here on Broadway? I got a baby.” – Bobby Bones, about postgame celebration plans (64:27)
• “If they win this game… what are we doing? Are we going downtown?” – Eddie, group joke (64:23)

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Episode Structure & Timestamps

• Opening & Road Rage Anecdote: 03:41–05:27
• Bobby’s Cowboys Helmet Incident: 05:35–12:34
• NFL Old School/New School Debate: 08:39–10:05
• Ohtani & MLB Opening Day: 12:37–14:09
• NBA Roundup & Financial Advice: 14:09–18:40
• On Memorabilia, Podcast Curses and Pie Tops: 27:23–32:38
• Tom Brady Comeback Talk: 32:44–35:36
• Jeff Goodman Interview: 41:01–58:18
• Arkansas Reflections & Sweet 16 Preview: 61:24–66:19

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Additional Notes

• Skip between advertisements and sponsored sections, which surround most main content blocks.
• Show maintains a humorous, conversational, and self-deprecating tone—mixing sports expertise with relatable anecdotes and debates.

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Useful For:
Anyone wanting a detailed recap of sports news (especially NCAA hoops), big coaching searches, sports collectibles mishaps, and personal insider stories—all with Bobby Bones’ trademark blend of self-effacing humor, pop-culture banter, and hot takes.

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is a podcast called 25 whistles.

[Jeff Goodman]

Talking football.

[Bobby Bones]

And they all wear a whistle. Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles, everybody. Welcome to the show. Mike, hit it. Thank you. We are back. I was pulling into the studio here a minute ago. You know how if there's traffic backed up and a car's trying to get through the traffic line, there was a Wendy's nearby. And so he was in the middle. He was trying to get over to the Wendy's. And so I pulled up too close to the car behind me for him to get through, and his window was down. And he was really giving me the mean eye. And he was like saying some crap too. And we were right beside each other.

[Eddie]

His window's down. Yours was not.

[Bobby Bones]

Mine was up. Mine was up. So I didn't see him there, but he thinks I should have left a gap for him to pull through to the Wendy's. Fine. All good. I can understand him being irritated at that. So I rolled my window down and I said, because again, he was pissed. I said, hey, man, I didn't see you. I'm sorry about that. And he was like, oh man, no problem. No problem.

[Jeff Goodman]

Really?

[Kevin]

Change that quick?

[Eddie]

Well, yeah, when the windows are up, it's like the Internet.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I didn't Think he wanted to fight me, but it just shows you all you have to do is be human with somebody and they'll be human back for sure. Because he was in, like, a work truck. And I get it. You probably hate your job. Mm. You go on. He's like, plumbing, heating.

[Eddie]

You still have a lot of hours left in your shift.

[Bobby Bones]

It was early because we do this, like, 11 o'. Clock. And he was like. I was like, hey, man, I'm really sorry. Oh, man, it's okay.

[Eddie]

You know what? You can't really argue with hey, man, I'm sorry. You know, like, what are you going to say? Yes, sorry, my butt.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, yeah, I didn't do it. I definitely didn't do it on purpose. Yeah. And I didn't do anything wrong. It's not like when you pull up and you're in the middle of an intersection and you're like, oh, I just wasn't paying attention. Should have pulled this far because the light is so. That just happened outside.

[Eddie]

Felt pretty good.

[Bobby Bones]

It made the world a brighter place today.

[Kevin]

Did he smile after? Nah, he wasn't.

[Bobby Bones]

He still stayed not. He also could have been hungry. I didn't think about that.

[Eddie]

Sure, sure. Of course he's headed to Wendy's.

[Bobby Bones]

It could have been. So that just happened. I wanted to talk about something I did that was really stupid. So I brought this Dallas Cowboys helmet in and. Kevin, you don't know this story yet.

[Eddie]

This is bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Nope. So this is a triple signature Cowboys helmet. I know it's Emmitt Smith. I know. It's Michael Irvin.

[Eddie]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know who the other one is.

[Eddie]

Probably Aikman.

[Bobby Bones]

It seems like it might be Aikman. I guess I could go to, like. If we go to the. I don't know.

[Eddie]

You can go to the sun number.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. The problem is I left it in the window and the sun completely.

[Kevin]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Faded all three of the eye.

[Kevin]

I was looking at it. I was like, is that invisible ink?

[Eddie]

You can barely see.

[Bobby Bones]

Barely see it. And I guess I could figure out whose it is, but I left it in the window and it is faded all three. So this is a helmet that probably would have been like 2500 to 3 grand. Because it's a real helmet. Old school helmet. It's triple. It's a triple autograph.

[Eddie]

Now here's the deal, though. Can you stencil or trace some of those autographs and play off like it's still there?

[Kevin]

No, get someone with a steady hand

[Eddie]

because you could see it Enough to where you could trace it if you, you know, if you were careful.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think so. I mean, if you. This was me being stupid.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I just left it in the window.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And the sun did what the sun does. It faded in.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Nobody to really blame but yourself.

[Eddie]

So now we're really gonna assume that's Aikman? Let's just call it.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I can have somebody look it up. Can I give this. Hey, Dylan, can I give this to you on the back of these? And you can let me know there's three different. Like, type those numbers in on the three different sites.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Jeff Goodman]

Gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

Dylan played college football. Yeah. We should have him sign it.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Yeah. With the other thing and your number on there.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Whenever you are done, just raise your hand. I'll see you and we'll go back to it.

[Eddie]

So.

[Kevin]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

So I just wanted to share that I really, really.

[Kevin]

Were you super bummed when you saw that? Nah.

[Eddie]

Okay. Okay. When he told me, I'm like, you've got to be kidding. And I didn't see it. He was telling me about it. I said, I'm like, let me go. It can't be that bad. Let me go look at it. Oh, it's bad.

[Bobby Bones]

I wasn't super bummed. I was a little annoyed because it's obvious. It's right in the freaking window. The big three of the studio house. Yeah.

[Kevin]

And that sun. Yeah. Good soul. That's something your kids would do, Eddie. Yeah.

[Eddie]

You know, that reminds me of one time when somebody came by the studio. I don't remember who it was, but they brought us back, like, official World Series baseballs. Do you remember they were used during the World Series. Low cash. That's who it was.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. You remember who brought us the gifts?

[Kevin]

Dang.

[Eddie]

It was a long time ago. And so I remember I took one of those home, and at one point, my son got a Sharpie and wrote Babe Ruth on it. Almost like Sandlon dude. Yes. And he did R U T H E. So that reminded me of that.

[Bobby Bones]

Dylan, you having trouble? Well, first one pulls up, definitely Emmett Smith. Okay. Okay, so. But you do see how. What's going. Okay, if you get. If anything is off, that's pretty cool.

[Eddie]

You can just look at that number and look it up.

[Bobby Bones]

That's how you authenticate it. Because they've authenticated it. And so instead of sending, like, a document, it gives you a tag with the number on it so you can look it up on the Internet.

[Bowen Yang]

That's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Troy Eggman believes. Speaking of Troy, and I'm not sure if it's Troy Eggman or not, but he believes that today's NFL players might be getting hurt during the season because they don't take enough punishment during training camp.

[Kevin]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Is this just old school guys saying old school stuff?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Would this be like Barry Sanders going, I think they're weak because they get too much water at practice?

[Kevin]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's also kind of true, Right? It's got to be a little bit

[Bowen Yang]

true, don't you think?

[Bobby Bones]

If it were kind of true or a little bit true and it was proven that we're kind of a little bit true, they wouldn't do it because they have enough science monitoring technology. And don't you think they're weighing injuries during training camp and players that don't even get to play in the season, which happens a lot, versus the other way around.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And then the more I think about it, the more I'm like, well, I bet more people got injured back in the day, but it wasn't accounted for.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, they got concussions and everything about it. Exactly. They played with torn ACLs partially.

[Kevin]

And so that's what Troy's thinking of. He's like, I know we played through all these injuries, and it's like, well, it's just different times.

[Eddie]

Troy, is the game faster now and tougher now? I don't think it's tougher.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's faster.

[Eddie]

You don't think those hits are tougher?

[Bobby Bones]

I think that guys are stronger. Yes. But tougher is different because a wide receiver would go across the middle and get killed.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Back in the 80s and 90s. Dylan, you got it. Who are the three? Troy Aikman.

[Kevin]

Oh, Michael Irvin.

[Bobby Bones]

Troy Aikman. Michael Irvin.

[Kevin]

So nobody.

[Bobby Bones]

Would you hand that back over here?

[Eddie]

Oh, man, that is just. That's. That's a crime, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, one of these guys on his helmet believes that players now are soft.

[Kevin]

Troy likes his old guy takes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And he's smart enough to know because he's not total old guy that his old guy takes will probably go viral. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Do you think he cares about going viral?

[Bobby Bones]

He's a media.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Bobby Bones]

And also he has, like, a beard. He goes on podcasts and sells, like, big tech.

[Eddie]

Oh, a beard. I thought he said beard. I'm like.

[Kevin]

Sells his beard.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh. I'm gonna see how much this helmet would have gone for. Helmet with Troy Eggman, Emmett Smith, Michael Irvin signed.

[Eddie]

It gets worse.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I don't Think it's gonna be more than what I said. It could be less at this point.

[Eddie]

What did you say?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it would have gone for 3,000 bucks.

[Eddie]

Oh, my goodness.

[Jeff Goodman]

Do we have to trace that?

[Bobby Bones]

You can't trace that. You have to.

[Eddie]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Emmett Smith. Michael Irvin, Troy Eggman on NFLShop.com.

[Kevin]

what do you do with it now?

[Eddie]

I mean, it's trash.

[Bobby Bones]

Your prize, $2,649. It's not trash. What are you gonna do with it? It's still a new helmet.

[Eddie]

It's just a helmet.

[Kevin]

It's a cowboys helmet.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a 90s literal 90s cowboys helmet.

[Eddie]

I know, but say you put. Oh, this was from the 90s, this whole helmet.

[Bobby Bones]

That's how they were made then.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's an older helmet.

[Eddie]

You think you put this in your office, and then when people come by your office, you're like, yeah. See, this helmet right here is pretty cool. It's.

[Jeff Goodman]

It.

[Eddie]

Well, it was signed by Emmett Smith, Troy Aikman, and Michael Irvin, but you can barely see it. No one's gonna think that's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you want to. Do you want to try to resign it?

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Kevin]

You just get one shot.

[Eddie]

Hey, let's all do a player.

[Jeff Goodman]

You do Troy Aikman.

[Kevin]

I call Emmett.

[Eddie]

I'll do.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll do somebody's signature. Looks a lot lighter on the. That thing.

[Eddie]

There's one that you can barely see.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm talking about, like, easy to trace because they put big letters.

[Kevin]

I see a big P. No, I

[Eddie]

can do the front one. See, the front one's pretty.

[Kevin]

You can see that squiggly, though. Yeah. Yeah. That sucks.

[Eddie]

It's gonna be all shaky. It's not gonna look good.

[Bobby Bones]

You can have that. You can have it, Eddie.

[Eddie]

I can have this?

[Kevin]

Yeah, you can have it. No, it's trash. He doesn't want it.

[Bobby Bones]

Whoa, whoa. I know it's trash. It's gone from trash.

[Kevin]

Whoa, whoa.

[Eddie]

Hold on. Really? I can have this?

[Bobby Bones]

You can have it?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. I wouldn't re sign over it, though.

[Jeff Goodman]

Are you sure?

[Eddie]

You read my mind.

[Kevin]

He's gonna tell his voice.

[Bobby Bones]

You can, but you'll never be able.

[Eddie]

But I don't think you can sell it like this. You can barely see it. How would you put that on the description?

[Bobby Bones]

I think you have it, and it's just personally meaningful to you with light signatures on it. Yeah.

[Kevin]

I put do not leave in sunlight

[Bobby Bones]

if you want to. I know.

[Eddie]

Don't do what I did.

[Bobby Bones]

Disclaimer but, yeah, you can have it.

[Eddie]

Well, thank you. It really is really cool. And to think that those three were touching this helmet.

[Bobby Bones]

The signatures are still there.

[Eddie]

I know, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

They're just light.

[Eddie]

That's. Thank you, man. That's cool. Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

There's a Shohei Ohtani jersey when he played in the World Baseball Classic that sold for 1.5 million bucks. Just played. Dang.

[Eddie]

Is he gonna be one of the greatest.

[Bobby Bones]

He may be the greatest baseball player of all time already. I mean, he doesn't have the career numbers that those guys have, but if he plays another 10 years and continues

[Eddie]

what he's doing today, he's already.

[Bobby Bones]

Because he pitches. Although they wouldn't let him pitch at the baseball. At the Classic. No pitching.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But he is the best hitter in baseball and is a top five, top seven pitcher. And alone either one of those guys are making 30, 40, $50 million a year. So, yes, I think if his trajectory even dims a bit and he plays another 10 years, he ends up being the best player ever.

[Kevin]

Crazy is how big he is, too.

[Eddie]

I know. He's so big.

[Kevin]

Like, physically imposing and he does. And he's fast. He's a freak.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys care at all about opening day? Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I wasn't ready for it, but, yeah,

[Bobby Bones]

it's kind of like in three stages. It's like the first Netflix night game.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I just like day. I think opening day should be a bunch of. It should be like March Madness. There should be, like, all the games going at the same time.

[Eddie]

Yes, that'd be cool.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm so in the middle of March Madness. I don't even care that much right now because my team is still in. I think if my team wasn't still in, I'd probably be like, let's see what the Cubs are.

[Eddie]

It's important to you right now.

[Bobby Bones]

But also, it's like, the Dodgers are just going to win it anyway.

[Kevin]

I know. That's what sucks. It's like, are we going to do this again? It's almost like the Warriors 10 years ago, where it's like, okay, this is fun and all, but at the end, we all know, like, what's going to happen.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, with the warriors, too. It was like, okay, they won the championship. Oh, Durant joining the team right after they won the championship. I've been watching a decent amount of NBA. Not as much since we had the baby. And I used to just keep it on because I'll have NBA Sunday ticket on and just watch it all the time, but never Watch a game. I'd be doing other things while it was on. So I have some notes. These are my three NBA headlines as of right now, according to barely more than a casual.

[Kevin]

Let's go.

[Bobby Bones]

The Lakers are now good. It's wild. And I think the Lakers are good now because LeBron is now the third option. LeBron is a really good third option. But Luke is a dude.

[Kevin]

Could you have ever imagined saying that out loud?

[Bobby Bones]

No, but he's 41 now, so it makes sense. It was just. Does LeBron know he's 41? And I feel like as a third option. Kevin, I don't know if you've been watching me at Laker games, but he hustles, he dives, he's. I feel like he is able to keep some of his energy and then use it in spurts.

[Kevin]

Yeah. When he needs to.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Kevin]

And he still looks like he's 25 at times. Yep, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

So the Lakers are good. I think they may be the three in the West. You may have to look this up. I'm just going from memory, they're probably three in the west right now.

[Eddie]

Oklahoma.

[Bobby Bones]

Spurs, Lakers, Thunder, Spurs. Probably Lakers. I'll need a check on that. But Luka one, Austin Reeves two and LeBron as the third option. The Lakers are now pretty good. What do you see?

[Kevin]

Yeah, Lakers at three.

[Bobby Bones]

So that is one of my NBA headlines again. This is going to be super casual. We can talk. Thunder, Spurs. It's another one of mine. Thunders only have two games.

[Eddie]

I know. Creeping up. The spurs are creeping.

[Bobby Bones]

The spurs are creeping. They're really good. Obviously women. Yama is freaking awesome. But they've got so much good young talent around him as well. It's not just that the Thunder. Jalen Williams has missed 45 games this year. So I think like hamstring twice. There's another injury that kept him out of the beginning, but he's been out. Hartenstein's missed 20 games for the Thunder. Like Jerry McCain coming over from Philadelphia was like the greatest trade for the Thunder to be able to pull off, especially with all the injuries. A.J. mitchell's been awesome. So the Thunder are two games up, spurs only two back. But the Thunder have been really playing hurt. But they are so deep. The Thunder are so deep. Their second five I think could be.500

[Kevin]

better than a lot of the teams that are at the bottom right now.

[Bobby Bones]

Like Casen Wallace been playing really great. So I think their second five because Casen Wallace was probably a second team guy for them. But he's been Playing so much because of all the injuries, especially Jalen Williams. But even my Jalen Williams, the guy from Arkansas. I saw Jalen Williams, he's been playing his brains out. It's awesome. That's the first ever nil deal I did with Jalen Williams.

[Kevin]

That's pretty cool.

[Eddie]

That's cool to see.

[Kevin]

At least he made it, too.

[Bobby Bones]

You're like, yeah, that's. I paid him to promote, like, $8,000 to promote breaking Bobby Bones and a

[Eddie]

couple other things, like on social videos.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's cool. And then, not only that, I haven't talked to him in a while. I mean, it's been a year. But when he first got in the league, he would. He would call and be like, hey, what am I supposed to do? Like, with money? I don't want to lose it all. Because him and I would talk a little bit because he grew up somewhat like I did.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think his mom remarried later. I could be wrong about this, but. But he was like, I don't want to lose all this money. So we would talk, and I'd be like, dude. He's like, what can I invest in? I was like, I don't know anything about stocks, but I've never lost money in property. And it would be like, I know you want some of the cool stuff, like chains and necklaces and minus shoes. Like, get a little. Because you don't want to go without because you want to feel like you've made it. I said, but just don't get caught up until you get your second deal. Now, I haven't talked to him since those early on conversations, but that's kind of cool, huh?

[Kevin]

That's awesome.

[Eddie]

That's really cool.

[Kevin]

And then when you give him advice, are you like, oh, what if it doesn't work out?

[Jeff Goodman]

There's a lot of pressure.

[Kevin]

Like when people hit you up about fantasy advice. Before I give you advice, just know if it doesn't work, it's not my fault.

[Bobby Bones]

I would say that, like, I am no expert, but I can tell you what's worked for me as somebody who did not grow up with money and did not have anybody advising me. Like, I had to learn the hard way. And even any properties that I bought, I just would buy houses and be so scared to have a mortgage early on, I wouldn't buy it until I could afford the whole thing.

[Kevin]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

So I would just buy in cash. In the cash?

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so I've done that ever since. Like, I've never had a mortgage at all. I don't buy anything unless I can afford it. And now it's easier. But then I would sell them, dude, I'd sell them and I would just crush.

[Kevin]

I wish I could do that.

[Eddie]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

That's awesome.

[Eddie]

Different situation for us. Yeah, just a little bit.

[Kevin]

I mean, good for you.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

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[Bobby Bones]

Always good.

[Eddie]

I wonder like just what it feels like. It's cool that he like wondered, but this is.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I'm sure he's killing it now.

[Eddie]

No, I know. But even the fact that money was a concern then, like a lot of people don't even think about like I just made money, we're gonna spend it.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he was making like a million and a half a year.

[Kevin]

He was.

[Bobby Bones]

He was early second round pick. It wasn't a ton of money in a rookie deal and he was just like, I don't want to end up, like other stories I've seen or heard, but I haven't. I don't want this to be taken the wrong way. I didn't save his financial life. We would just have those talks because he knew I didn't come for money and nobody really helped me with money until way later on. And so he was.

[Kevin]

But would you recommend, like, if somebody has that much money, are you, like, get a business manager or a financial advisor or something like that?

[Bobby Bones]

I think, yeah. Well, business manager for me, I had to get one whenever I had to start paying a lot of people. That's when I needed one. Because I'm paying everybody. We were touring a bunch. I was paying everybody. I'm paying percentages to agents, I'm paying percentages to managers. I'm paying percentages. So I had all these percentages and then checks I was having to write. All the other stuff was good. Meaning I don't get any bills to my house or anything. They pay it all. They take care of everything at this point.

[Eddie]

That's amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

But you have to pay them.

[Eddie]

I get it. But you don't have to worry about it.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's still. You're paying them money to take care of your money, and they're not making you more money. It's not like a financial advisor that gets a percentage of what they're making you.

[Eddie]

You worry about. Ever worry about getting Billy Joel or. Who's the comedian?

[Bobby Bones]

Dane cooked?

[Eddie]

Dane cooked.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I think. And I've had the same business manager and we're close for 11 years.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

And there's times I call and I'm like, hey, can I afford this? Hey, can I get this? Hey, can I? You know, that's the kind of the conversation you have. And then every few months you do a whole, you know, talk about everything. I check all my accounts three times a day.

[Eddie]

Oh, nice.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I'm so scared of being Dane cooked or that I'm overspending. Like, I still have that mentality. No, I don't worry about that yet.

[Eddie]

You don't worry about it. Cause you check it three times.

[Bobby Bones]

I check it all the time.

[Eddie]

I bet you Dane Cook or Billy Joel didn't check it once.

[Bobby Bones]

And there's a portal. And so the portal logs into all. It's like one page.

[Eddie]

Oh, like a medical portal.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like all your accounts and everything you're in.

[Eddie]

You know what I need? I need someone to come in and tell my wife how much she's spending on certain things. Because I don't Want to do that?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that's just a you issue.

[Eddie]

Can I pay someone to do that?

[Bobby Bones]

You just do the work. I can tell her.

[Eddie]

We'll talk later.

[Bobby Bones]

The third deal is.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I was waiting for that one.

[Bobby Bones]

So they were already good. Yeah, they were already really good. And the east is a little weaker than the west, but they were already really good. Celtics, Pistons, probably who's going to be Eastern Conference finals. But just trying to find out with Tatum, like, where he fits now because Jalen Brown was killing it. Yeah.

[Kevin]

MVP discussions. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So they just beat Thunder. By the way, it wasn't Boston. That was a big win for them.

[Kevin]

Huge win. And they put up 70 in the second half.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, big win.

[Kevin]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

So Tatum finding his way with the Celtics. I was watching. I don't watch a lot of Celtics. I don't watch a lot of Any specific team. The Thunder. Caitlin watches a lot, but I forget what game it was about a week ago. And they were. Tatum and Jaylen Brown were just going back each were. They were just isoing. Taking turns. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Which is the basketball that I don't like to see with them, though, sometimes, because then it's just like it gets stalemated a little bit. But yeah, it's. I can't believe they're in second in the East. Honestly, I thought it was a throwaway season.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, for sure. Detroit.

[Kevin]

Early Detroit.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, everyone did. I think it was. They were questioning, hey, should we tank?

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then they just kept winning and it's.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And they're fun to watch. They got some young guys. Your boy Jordan Walsh, Arkansas kid. He's played not so much lately because Tatum's back, but he's had a good year.

[Bobby Bones]

He was able to show enough that he has a roster spot for sure.

[Kevin]

Yeah, he's still on the roster. Still hanging out. He's on the G League or anything.

[Eddie]

So for him, him and Jalen played together, right? They're in the same. Same team.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. The three rookies were. Him, Anthony Black and Adams. Nick. Nick. Nick Smith.

[Kevin]

Nick Smith.

[Eddie]

Oh, yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Nick Smith Jr. Yeah. Is he the Lakers now?

[Eddie]

Oh, no. Anthony Black was with Orlando.

[Kevin]

He's Orlando.

[Eddie]

He's killing with Orlando.

[Kevin]

He's doing really good.

[Bobby Bones]

He's doing really good. So. Yeah, there you go. That's. That's according to a casual.

[Eddie]

You still watching a lot. Like with the league?

[Bobby Bones]

It stays on. I call it NBA Sunday Ticket. It stays on.

[Eddie]

It's called.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it stays on. Eddie wants to congratulate our podcast for

[Eddie]

having power Guys, we have major power on this podcast. I don't know what it is. I mean, first off, I mean, we'll go back to Clemson, you know, with the whole. What'd you put a hex curse, A curse on? Dabo.

[Kevin]

Dabo. Yep.

[Eddie]

And, like, that's power right there. Obviously, they can't do anything as a football team ever since Bobby put that curse on him.

[Bobby Bones]

Who else?

[Eddie]

You all of a sudden became a Panthers fan. They had a really good team this year.

[Bobby Bones]

Made playoffs.

[Eddie]

Made the playoffs. That's power. Now, who do we have on the podcast? NASCAR driver Tyler Reddick.

[Bobby Bones]

Did he win again?

[Eddie]

Tyler Redick has won three times.

[Kevin]

Oh, my goodness.

[Eddie]

Since we've had him on our podcast,

[Bobby Bones]

is he on Michael Jordan's team?

[Eddie]

He is.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw Darius buy into a team or own a team. Really? Yeah. Maybe somebody needs to look that up. I don't follow NASCAR enough to know,

[Eddie]

should he buy a team by what, meaning you. And then we can all just be there.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw that. Charlemagne. My friend in New York has sponsored a car, and he was at the race.

[Eddie]

Did it have his name on the car?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, his podcast network.

[Eddie]

That's really cool.

[Kevin]

Yeah. He's an investor in Legacy Motor Club.

[Eddie]

Who?

[Bobby Bones]

Charlamagne or.

[Kevin]

Sorry. Darius Rucker.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

What's Legacy Motor Club? They have any good drivers? I know they have. Oh, Penske or Dick Trickle.

[Bowen Yang]

Let's see.

[Eddie]

Penske's a. That's a company, right? That's a. A motor group.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it's. It's him and Jimmy Johnson.

[Kevin]

They own the team.

[Bobby Bones]

Who?

[Eddie]

Jimmy Johnson, the Cowboys?

[Bobby Bones]

No, Jimmy Johnson the race car. Got it. That would make more sense.

[Kevin]

Eric Jones. Not sure who that is.

[Eddie]

Eric with a K, right?

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Wow, look at you.

[Bobby Bones]

Watches.

[Kevin]

I know. John Hunter Nemechek.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, classic. Oh, Nimmy.

[Eddie]

Is that it? Two drivers.

[Bobby Bones]

Are they kind of newer?

[Kevin]

I think they're fairly new. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Tyler Reddick's killing it. I mean, it's crazy. There was one race I saw where he got penalized, and he had to start on the very back, and he's still on the race. I'm like, how does that happen?

[Bobby Bones]

Speaking of Michael Jordan. And also kind of like this helmet, except I didn't do this to mess it up. I have a pair of Jordan signed, like, Jordan tennis shoes. And so I bought them two years ago. And it's a blue marker on a blue shoe.

[Kevin]

Sucks.

[Eddie]

You can barely see it.

[Bobby Bones]

You can see it if you look. I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't leave it in the sun. I put them in a case.

[Eddie]

Of course you wouldn't do that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's a Carolina blue, like the front of the shoe. And I don't know why they would have them sign in a blue marker.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's pretty dumb.

[Kevin]

Seems like a bad idea.

[Bobby Bones]

So I have those and I walk by them and they're cool.

[Kevin]

And it's Jordan that signed them.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he signed both shoes.

[Eddie]

And you want to get rid of it?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not giving you those.

[Kevin]

Okay. I was just saying I'm a big Jordan fan.

[Eddie]

Love Michael Jordan, man.

[Bobby Bones]

But speaking of that helmet, which I messed up by leaving in the sun, is I have a pair of Jordan signed Jordan shoes. I may just bring them up here and put them on one of the shelves on the Bobby cast.

[Eddie]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Kevin]

And then just zoom in to see if you can see.

[Bobby Bones]

They can be a conversation piece.

[Eddie]

Yeah. What is that? As Jordan shoe.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a pair of the Pizza Hut shoes over there. Oh, yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, those are cool.

[Bobby Bones]

The pie tops.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Did you ever use that? Because you could. You could program it to where you hit the button and just orders a pizza, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, no, I never did. I got it for my birthday a long time ago. They sell. They're really a hot item.

[Kevin]

Are they called pie tops?

[Bobby Bones]

Like high tops? That's cool, because they are high tops. They were made by the surgeon, the guy that makes all the cool shoes. You guys know the surgeon?

[Eddie]

No, they call him the Surgeon.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, because he, like, takes some shoes apart, makes, and he works.

[Eddie]

Who does he work for?

[Bobby Bones]

Nike himself.

[Eddie]

Oh, he has. Oh, he's his own. He's his own entity.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I follow him on Instagram too. That's cool. Yeah, so those are super cool.

[Eddie]

I remember Bobby let me. He let me into the closet and he's like, hey, man, just pick a few pairs or whatever. And I picked the Pizza Hut. He's like, not those.

[Jeff Goodman]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, you can have whatever shoes you want because I gotta add a bunch of shoes. Eddie goes right to the Pizza Hut.

[Eddie]

That was the first one I went to. I don't blame you, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Not.

[Eddie]

Not those. Put those back.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's see.

[Kevin]

You got some good UNO ones, though. I do.

[Eddie]

Yeah. People like those.

[Bobby Bones]

All the UNO shoes.

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah. I get a lot of compliments on that.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's see. Pie tops. Stockx is not letting me get in here.

[Kevin]

Mm.

[Bobby Bones]

Pie tops. Two, three grand.

[Eddie]

Three grand for this specific.

[Bobby Bones]

They have different kinds, but they only made a limited amount. And these were a birthday gift. And they found Some elevens. I think they only made like 50 pair.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I remember when they came out.

[Kevin]

I want to test it with the pizza order.

[Eddie]

I don't even know how it works.

[Bobby Bones]

You put an app on your phone then.

[Eddie]

So, like, through Bluetooth.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. It's connected to the phone, so you push it in. The app orders the pizza to wherever you are as location devices.

[Eddie]

Gosh, I'm so hungry. You reach down, hit the button.

[Public Podcast Announcer]

They call your shoes Marinara Splash, by the way.

[Bobby Bones]

They do, yeah.

[Eddie]

The color. That's probably color because they are red, right? They're red.

[Bobby Bones]

They're called me. I'd never known that. Marinara splash.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

22. Oh, that's tops. So, yeah, those you cannot have. Those aren't signed. But I can put the shoes. I got different sets of shoes that could put up there. I guess I got a shelf in the Bobby Cash studio that's not done yet. I do have that really cool bat. I don't want to make it all sports. It's a music show for the most part. The Goldie bat I do have. Yeah, the Paul Goldschmidt bat. That's really cool.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah. And you gave him the microphone.

[Bobby Bones]

I gave him a signed microphone.

[Eddie]

All those have really cool stories, dude.

[Kevin]

Every time I see him now on tv, I'm like, met that guy.

[Eddie]

Oh, we hung out with him, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. He's like, I just listen to you guys at Texas State, you know?

[Eddie]

That's so cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom Brady maybe coming back to the NFL.

[Kevin]

He's getting on my nerves again, man.

[Bobby Bones]

He's kind of getting.

[Kevin]

I mean, what is the point of this?

[Bobby Bones]

So ESPN has a story. Tom Brady says he explored the possibility of coming out of retirement and returning to the NFL, adding that the league did not like that idea very much. Is it annoying? He keeps talking about it.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's annoying that it's just like that.

[Bobby Bones]

He doesn't just say, no.

[Kevin]

It's just like, no, I'm good. Like, I've never really thought about it. Even if that conversation did happen at some point, it's like, why do you got to tell everyone about it? It's just an attention grabber.

[Eddie]

Can he even do that as an owner?

[Kevin]

Well, that's where the whole thing.

[Bobby Bones]

He would have to not be an owner anymore.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eddie]

Can't be an owner.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe that's the rule. Right? Like, you'd have to not be an owner. You can be a coach. You can be a player coach.

[Eddie]

You can.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I have it all the time in 60s and 70s.

[Jeff Goodman]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

You'd be a player coach.

[Kevin]

Yeah. He would need to divest his ownership stake in the Raiders and there'd be salary cap. It just sounds like he just wants to be in the news again, which he's always in the news now.

[Eddie]

Is he just getting bored?

[Bobby Bones]

Purposefully?

[Kevin]

Perfectly.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, you don't play in that fanatics game.

[Jeff Goodman]

Right.

[Kevin]

And I think he only played like three or four plays.

[Bobby Bones]

But also he, you know, no Bull.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like that's becoming more like they're trying harder to make that a brand. So I guess there are reasons that he's. His PR team is at work.

[Eddie]

There's the memorabilia shop that we walked by in Boston. San Francisco. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And he's got a few throughout the country.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, does he have it or does he own it? All his stuff?

[Eddie]

No, he owns it.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, so he sells stuff that's not him. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah. He's open, I think three at this point. That San Fran one opened up like right before we went there.

[Eddie]

Yeah. When we walked by, there was no. It was closed. It was later, late at night. But there was one security guard just sitting in the middle. It's all glass, you can see in it. And there's memorabilia, cards, all kinds of stuff. And just one security guard just standing there, sitting there.

[Public Podcast Announcer]

It's called Card Vault.

[Bobby Bones]

Is he owning it or is he like got partners and he's like giving him his name and for his part, it doesn't be that. It doesn't matter usually.

[Kevin]

I mean, he goes all the openings and cuts the ribbon and all that. So I don't know if that means anything, but his name's on it and he's.

[Bobby Bones]

Sometimes that's their investment. Okay.

[Eddie]

That the name's on it.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like these artists that have bars in Nashville, they don't own the bars, most of them. There's a couple that do, but they just lease their name.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And they make an agreement to go three times a year to do this. Many posts about it. And so it's Luke Bryan or Jason Aldean's bar, but they don't own the bar, they're just leasing. Or a steakhouse, like Vince Young Steakhouse. Remember that in Texas?

[Eddie]

I do remember that.

[Bobby Bones]

Vince Young didn't own the steakhouse, but he kind of gives them the rights to his name.

[Eddie]

So when Morgan Wallen was calling Eric Church after he was getting arrested at the bar, like, that's the wrong dude to call.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I don't know. I don't know if Chief owns Chiefs.

[Eddie]

Chris was Chief like, dude, why are you calling me? I don't own that place.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. I don't know if Chief owns chiefs.

[Kevin]

He owns 50%, by the way, Tom Brady.

[Bobby Bones]

He does.

[Kevin]

Yeah, he has 50%.

[Eddie]

State wants a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

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Avocados from Mexico always Good. Alright, now let's get over to our talk with college basketball analyst and reporter Jeff Goodman. I'm a big fan. He's been covering basketball for a long time. Super plugged in when it comes to coaching vacancies. So we talk about that. North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky. Not that they're all vacant, but those jobs specifically. He's worked at Fox Sports, CBS Sports, espn now has his own media network called the field of 68, which you can watch on YouTube. Big thanks to Jeff for coming on. Here he is, Jeff Goodman. I'm a big Jeff Goodman fan. You guys can follow him on Instagram. Goodman Hoops. I had a lot of questions. You're the guy I wanted to talk to. Mostly I know you're in DC for the games happening this weekend, but before we do that, I just want to talk about the coaching searches and then the possible coaching opportunities. So let's go to North Carolina first. What do you think's happening now there?

[Jeff Goodman]

I mean they're going outside the family. We know that there's nobody left. Good enough Bobby to go in the family, you know, so Jerry Stackhouse, he failed at Vanderbilt. Heard Stephen A. Smith talk about Kenny Smith. Come on, like what are we doing here? They're going to go for big names that are proven, you know, and it'll start with guys like Billy Donovan trying to gauge his interest. Right now he's with the Bulls and you know, they're not good every year, but he's loyal. So we'll see if Billy Donovan has real interest in leaving, going back to college. Remember obviously he won the back to back titles at Florida. Ton of people close to him are all imploring him. Get out of Chicago, go somewhere you can win again. And Carolina is a perfect place and it kind of fits. Billy number two would be Dusty May at Michigan. Done an incredible job. Obviously came from fau Final Four there. Has a chance to go to a final four, maybe win the whole thing this year at Michigan. But he's got a really good job in Michigan. The key is will Michigan step up? Like they, they, they flew like commercial back from Vegas earlier this year, two flights back. I was there for a tournament and they literally flew commercial. So Michigan's got to probably step up to keep Dustin May. Tommy Lloyd at Arizona has done a great job. He's in the mix as well. And then T.J. altzelberger from Iowa State is another one who's high atop their list. But yesterday he kind of came out, he didn't really say no. And then his, his AD came out and said, put a tweet out saying, like, we're happy TJ is going to be here long term. So that one, like, I'm not sure where that stands right now, but I don't think it gets beyond TJ Altzenberger or Mark Byington at Vanderbilt. I. I think they shoot for the stars. One of those top three guys I mentioned. And then you've got T.J. altzelberger or Van, these. Mark Byington there, that. I think one of those guys would take it for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

The Billy Donovan thing is interesting because the Bulls aren't investing in winning and they haven't for a while. But the NBA lifestyle, like it is luxury. You're flying luxury. Your hotels are luxury. You're not dealing with parents that are irritated that their kids aren't getting playing. Like, even losing in the NBA life, that's a different life than college life. I don't know. Personally, do you feel Billy Donovan would listen to take that North Carolina job?

[Jeff Goodman]

I think, again, so many people around him are telling him that you can't finish your career. Losing you. You can change, you know, your legacy and look at what it was in college. Go back there and dominate college basketball again. It's changed. We know that, right? Most of it not for the better in terms of dealing with, like you said, parents who have leverage. And it's all about money, agents, all that. The one thing I'll say is, like, all right, you're paying these kids a lot of money, right? 3, $4 million. Price is probably going to go up this year. He's dealt with having to coach kids making a lot of money, right? Like, he's got this kid, modest Bruiselles, who was drafted high a couple years ago, straight out of high school, basic, you know, out of the G league, ignite or whatever it was. And he's dealt with having to coach kids that have made a lot of money. So I don't think that'll be an adjustment for him. The adjustment will be, you know, getting a staff that can figure out this, this nil concept right now and get guys that kind of know, you know, how to. How to deal with all this, how to. How to manage it, how to not overpay like Kentucky did this past year for their roster, things of that nature.

[Bobby Bones]

Is there any chance this ends up almost like a Penn State football where, listen, they got lucky at the very end, but they. They're like, we're Penn State. We're going to get. And there was nobody to get. And so at the end There was. Luckily Iowa State had the guy for them. Is there any chance this happens with North Carolina where they think they can grab a big name? And like you said, there's nobody in the family and there's only a few names that would even, we would even consider to be worthy of that job.

[Jeff Goodman]

I think they get a big name. Again, it depends what your version of a big name is, right? Like Mark Byington and Vandy. Probably not a big name to you. TJ Altzelberger at Iowa State, he's got a three, you know, three sweet sixteens in the last five years. Not a huge name. The big names are the ones I mentioned, right? Billy Donovan, Dusty May, Tommy Lloyd, those are the ones. I don't think like Todd golden is in the equation here now if they got desperate. But he's got a huge buyout. Huge buyout for college. Low buyout to go to the NBA, but huge buyout for college. NATO, it's at Alabama. You know, I think he, he might take it, but again, he doesn't fit. You know, Carolina wants like a prim and proper type coach. They don't want to do that's rough around the edges. And both Nate Oates and Todd golden are, they're rough around the edges.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, speaking of golden and Donovan, before I get to Kansas, because I want to talk about that in a second, but with Donovan winning two at Florida and Golden having the one seed this year with Florida like, and he lives in Billy Donovan shadow even after he won a national championship. And that's really weird and rare to say after you win a title and you're still living in the shadow of another coach. Like this loss especially so early had to hurt for him, right?

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah, because I think he felt like his team, his backcourt was not good early in the season. He returned his whole front court from last year's title team. So the guards had started to play better and then all of a sudden again they had the loss in the SEC tournament. I was there when they got absolutely blitzed by Vanderbilt and then losing to an Iowa team. Iowa team that honestly they got one high level player and Bennett Sturts, he'll be a first round pick. He didn't even play well. He was over nine from three and I would just control the pace. Frustrated him and with a much smaller front court, they, they, I think they tied him on the glass like it was, it was shocking. One of the more shocking upsets I've seen in the tournament. So yeah, I mean again you're playing with house money a Little bit because you won the. The title last year. But yeah, Todd Goldman certainly expected to go further with this group with how they have played the last two months of the year.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, let's go to Kansas and, and self and, you know, again, I haven't seen anything yet this morning, but his statement was kind of, hey, we're still moving forward, but still, like, evaluating his health. Like, what do you think happens in Kansas?

[Jeff Goodman]

I think he retires. I do. And it's sad to me because I think it's health. It's clearly health. You know, I talked to Bill yesterday and, and he said, like, I still love it, I still want to coach. But ultimately, you know, he's had numerous heart issues. 63 years old, like, at some point you say to yourself, is it worth it? And your wife and your kids and he's got a grandkid now. You know, there's more things. You're not 43, you're 63. You're probably going to retire in the next couple years anyway. This isn't the way you wanted to go out. If you go out this way, especially with having Darren Peterson this year, and I don't know how much you follow that circus. You know, he came in as the number one pick and, you know, was playing, was cramping up, was hammy, was all this type of thing. He just didn't play to his potential. So I, I don't think Bill wants to go out this way, but I think ultimately you got to listen to your doctors and I think the doctors basically will tell him and have told Bill, listen, probably isn't the smartest one move.

[Bobby Bones]

I follow the Peterson thing very closely. And do you think that. What do you think teams learned from that this season?

[Jeff Goodman]

I think they question his competitiveness. Now, talking to NBA gms, that is what they question. And I never would have questioned this. Couple years ago, I remember seeing him on the AU circuit and saying, I think he's the best player in the country. And at that point, it was AJ DeBona. He was a clear number one player in the country. And I never would have envisioned this out of Peterson. I thought he was a killer as a player and all these issues. And I think it became, you know, it was something where there was a full, you know, full body cramps in the preseason. And I think that absolutely affected him mentally going forward and he couldn't work through it. And I'm sure his dad. I was supposed to sit down with him, you know, middle towards the end of the season in Ames Iowa. And my take was like, let him tell his story. Let him tell his story of what's gone on with him this year. And they pulled it at the last minute, and I'm like, just tell it with anybody. You don't have to tell it with me. I don't care. Like, I know the kid. The kid trusts me a little bit. But, like, we want to hear. Like, they. They didn't control the narrative well at all. They didn't. They should have. And they could have, but they didn't. So then everybody's kind of wondering, like, what's going on with this kid.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, the same. Because I'm. I'm a massive SEC guy, massive Arkansas guy, and so are you, you know. Yeah. So I'm like, focused in on us and Calipari and Darius Akoff, but I'm watching byu, I'm watching Kansas, I'm watching Duke, like all these other early round one guys. And, yeah, the narrative was that he would check himself out of games, that he didn't really want it. Now, again, I'm a casual Kansas guy, so I'm only seeing what's being fed to me. But I feel like, as me somebody who's kind of paying attention, my relationship with what, his. His work ethic and his competitive. It wasn't good.

[Jeff Goodman]

Correct. And if you had seen him come out, Bobby, if you had seen his face and he said, hey, listen, I had this incident back in September where I had to go to the hospital. And, yeah, I'm trying to work through this thing. Like, I'm trying in the worst way. And I'm worried, you know, And I'm sure. Listen, I'm sure the people close to him, you know, all these kids have agents now, but his dad's very involved. And I'm sure early on it was like, hey, the moment you feel anything, we can't have you going into full body cramps in front of the country on the court that will kill your draft stock. So I'm sure they're trying to protect him early, and then he's hearing it and then he's trying to. And he did. He played the last seven, eight games, but he wasn't. That was not the player legitimately, when I say that was not the same player that I saw two years ago in the AU circuit. Doesn't look like the Darren Peterson I knew.

[Bobby Bones]

If self retires, is it the same list of names or they stay in staff?

[Jeff Goodman]

You know, they brought on Jock Vaughn before the year to be an assistant coach. I. At the point they Brought him on. I was like, he could be the guy. Right? He could be the guy. I don't think that'll be the case. I think they'll swing now again, if you get to a certain point, you could go with Jock Vaughn if you miss on some guys, but I think you'll have some of the same guys. And I think, you know, Tommy Lloyd, you know, I think Kansas fits Nate Oates and Todd golden better. Right. They are rough around the edges. That's what Bill Self has been over the years. I think you can add in Grant McCaslin of Texas Tech, but I think it's similar. But Golden. Golden's got a big buyout, as I said. NATO, it's. His buyout goes down. It's affordable for a place like Kansas. So I could see a Nate Oats being in play at Kansas where he's not really in play at North Carolina.

[Bobby Bones]

So Carolina, Kansas. Now, Kentucky is not changing coaches. It was Pope's second year below expectations for sure. They spent a bunch of money on that roster. It was not pieced together in a way that, that ended with Kentucky doing anything this year. That being said, Pope's on the hot seat for next season. Agree or disagree?

[Jeff Goodman]

I agree. No, no. How can you not? Right. It's year three and I know your boy Cal, like, he didn't do well at the end at Kentucky. So Pope will kind of point to that and say, look at our track record the last couple of years. We made the tournament. We've won a couple tournament games. Cal didn't do last four years at Kentucky. But when you have a roster of $20 million, the number, the. The number one spender in the country this year, you got to be better than what they were. I don't care about the injuries. You know, Jaylen Low went out the point guard. You know, they got a kid, Jaden Quaintance that they knew was coming off knee surgery. He played like three games all year. When you got 20 million. Listen, you. You got to figure it out. Yeah. I mean, you can't. You can't use that as. Excuse me. So I think ultimately, yes, year three is critical for Mark Pope. And what I worry about is they didn't bring in a general manager. And I think all these high level programs, they should have a general manager that is literally looking at the portal all year, like from January, certainly on, probably all year, and be organized in the portal and be watching these kids and evaluating them. I think it's really. They should have a coach that is devoted 100% to the portal. Now, you could also have a guy who does contracts so you could put together, like, a team, you know, a general manager kind of a team, like almost a scouting team, something like that. Kentucky doesn't have that. Pope is still handling that, and I think it's. It's too much on his plate. When you're trying to focus on this year's team, you don't have time to go in and check all the, you know, who talk to agents, because you got to be talking to agents every day. They're the ones that are really in control of where these kids ends end up right now. So I worry about year three with Pope, to be honest.

[Bobby Bones]

Because of that, the NBA's tank a thon right now. So we don't know who's going to get the number one pick. That being said, it's been the same three guys, 1, 2, or 3. But I think Darius Acob is now made. People are now, you know, squatting about him a little bit. What do you think? Where do you think it lands? If you were to just right now, theoretically, give us a top four, top five.

[Jeff Goodman]

Man, it is so hard. Like, I think, you know, again, NBA teams are going to go digging on Darren Peterson. They are. They're going to dig. Not just the medical, but it's more. It's more this, right? They're going to talk to everybody around that kid and find out, like, all right, what makes him tick, what really happened there. Is it worth rolling the dice on him? I think AJ Debons is probably taking over the number one spot in the minds of most NBA decision makers. So I think Today he goes 1. Peterson, I still think goes 2. And then it really gets. And I said this early in the year, and people crushed me for it. I was like, I don't know if Cam Boozers three or even four. Like, I could see a scenario where the best player in college basketball clearly, and the most reliable player we've seen in years in college hoops kind of slips to five. And Caleb Wilson has higher upside. He's a freak athlete. A freak athlete. Your boy Acuff has been as productive as any player not named Cam Boozer all year. And. And he is unstoppable getting the basket. And he shot it way better than I thought he would. And he took care of the ball way better than I thought he would. Now, did he guard? No, but nobody on that team, really.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we don't play as, you know,

[Jeff Goodman]

if you watch him a lot. Nobody guards, like, I mean, that. That Game against High Point, the end of it, it was like AAU basketball. It was literally like I was watching AAU basketball. But. But Acoff's in that. Like, I think what Darius has done is he's moved his way to the front of the line of that point guard crew, right? And you've got Kingston Flemings from Houston, a freshman Keaton Wagler from Illinois, a freshman, Mikel Brown, who was ahead of him clearly going into the year, from Louisville. And he was in and out of the lineup with a back injury all year. I think Acuff's top five. I'm not ready to say he's one. I don't see a scenario where anybody takes a Darius Akov over AJ DeBonsa and Darren Peterson.

[Bobby Bones]

If Kendrick Perkins, though, were the GM, he would take him one. Jeff, you've heard him 18 times now.

[Eddie]

I have.

[Jeff Goodman]

And. And, you know, Perk, I don't think Perk watches anything. So I'm not. I'm not relying on Kendrick Perkins's scout here.

[Bobby Bones]

You can watch the field of 68 on YouTube and. And on three, you can read and watch Jeff's work. So you're in D.C. what are you looking forward to tonight?

[Jeff Goodman]

It's so tomorrow night of the games here in D.C. okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Tonight. Tonight, your Arizona team plays my team, though.

[Jeff Goodman]

They do. And that. That could be a really good game. You know, I went to Arizona, by the way. They don't like me there, but I went there. I think, again, Arizona is probably the most complete team in the country. You know, Arkansas is going to have to play an incredible game, and Malik Thomas is going to have to be efficient, number one. And Trevor Brazil better show up. Like, he better show up. He. He is clearly the X factor for Arkansas to me, every single game. When he plays well, they have a chance to beat just about anybody. And he's going to need to, because Arizona's got crevis up front. Co opied is a freak athlete up front. They got a lot. And they got two guards, man, that again, Acuff is. Will be the best guard on the court, talent wise. But Braden Burries isn't far behind as a freshman. He'll be a lottery pick. And then you got Jaden Bradley, who's made more big shots than probably anybody this. This season in college basketball. So that game's going to be awesome. I mean, listen, the. The beauty of. It's sad that there weren't a lot of Cinderellas in the first round. I hate that. I hate that. But the beauty is we got all the big boys, you know here in the sweet 16 and I'm in in the East. I mean think about what I have here. You know Duke, St. John's you know Shire, who's probably going to be a Hall of Famer one day against Rick Patino, probably the the greatest coach in college basketball right now. And then you go down to the other game and you've got Dan Hurley and Yukon against Thomas Michigan State. Like it's insane. Insane.

[Bobby Bones]

Here you guys follow Jeff at Goodman Hoops and also I'm a big fan of the field of 68. So Jeff, thank you so much for spending some time with us. Hope you have a great weekend up in D.C. and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.

[Jeff Goodman]

Likewise. Thanks man. Appreciate it.

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Always good. All right, thanks to Jeff Goodman for being on with us Arkansas place tonight. This is all gonna be timely now. So how are you feeling? If it's three or four days later, you can skip all this part.

[Kevin]

Doing all right.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to win. I don't expect us to win. So I'm saying right now we had a good. We had a Even if we lose this year in the Sweet 16, it's different than last year, losing in the Sweet 16. Why you ask? Because it's the same. Why?

[Eddie]

Hey, why?

[Kevin]

How come?

[Bobby Bones]

Because we won the SEC tournament this year. Yeah, we're trending up, so it's not exactly the same. Last year we went to the SEC tournament and then went to Sweet 16. This year we won the SEC tournament and then we went to sweet 16. Trending up. Darius Acuff was awesome this year. Gotta be happy with that. Brought a bunch of eyeballs to Arkansas.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So if we don't win, I'm going to be disappointed, but I'm going to be an adult and go, that's a fun season. Is Cal's second year. We had a good year. We won the SEC championship, the tournament, and then we went to sweet 16. And we're gonna have one of the best recruiting classes in the country next year.

[Kevin]

Eddie. He's maturing.

[Eddie]

He is maturing.

[Kevin]

Mature.

[Eddie]

You think it's the baby? What do you think it is?

[Kevin]

It's gotta be.

[Eddie]

He's a dad.

[Kevin]

It's gotta be.

[Eddie]

What is it then? Tell us.

[Bobby Bones]

It's me being tired of being mad and tired.

[Eddie]

I get that.

[Bobby Bones]

But we have gotten better. I'm having this conversation ahead because my. My genuine. Because last year we lost. It was like the worst. Sweet 16 come from behind. Texas Tech beat us ever. Ever. Because we were up big time.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

That sucked. This year, regardless of what happens, I'm still going to be upset. I'm not going to like losing, but if we lose, I'm going to go. Man, what a good year. That was fun. I bet we're going to be even better next year.

[Eddie]

I like it now.

[Bobby Bones]

Talk to me tomorrow. Yeah. What sucks is we play in the west and the game doesn't even start until 8:30.

[Eddie]

It's a late. Not the last one, but it's a late one.

[Bobby Bones]

What sucks for us at Arkansas is we played in Portland for the first two games. And so, you know, we played Thursday, Saturday, played again on Thursday. So you're going to have to fly all the way to Fayetteville. All the way. We didn't. We just stayed in a hotel. Flew right to San Jose and stayed in a hotel.

[Eddie]

That's what I was going to say.

[Bobby Bones]

Just stay. But it's still hard for the people to get to go home for a couple days. Sure. Like just being in a hotel for a whole week, that sucks.

[Kevin]

That's tough.

[Bobby Bones]

Nothing's normal. Your food's not normal. Your beds aren't normal. Hey, stinks. So that's my excuse.

[Eddie]

Okay. Before you see anything. That's your excuse?

[Bobby Bones]

Man. We've been on the road for a week.

[Kevin]

But if they win, it's because they stayed.

[Bobby Bones]

Of course. Obviously. That's it.

[Eddie]

Do you think they cover?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't.

[Kevin]

It hasn't changed at all. Eight and a half.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know, dude.

[Eddie]

Okay. Trying to get your take on it.

[Bobby Bones]

You're asking someone that is too emotionally invested.

[Eddie]

Right. It's not the person to get advice

[Bobby Bones]

from if they win this game. Oh, my God.

[Jeff Goodman]

What are we doing?

[Eddie]

What are we doing? Let's talk about what we're doing.

[Kevin]

Oh, my God.

[Eddie]

Are we going downtown?

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Kevin]

You want me to come out here on Broadway?

[Bobby Bones]

I got a baby.

[Eddie]

But can we take the baby downtown?

[Kevin]

What does that.

[Eddie]

We go down like the.

[Bobby Bones]

Not old school with A baby.

[Eddie]

Oh, oh, hangover.

[Jeff Goodman]

Yeah. With a baby.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we won't be doing that.

[Eddie]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

But Final four, we're going to go. If we make it to the final.

[Eddie]

Oh, my goodness.

[Bobby Bones]

This close. It's in Indianapolis. I haven't asked my wife yet because I don't want to jinx the ass. Like, hey, do you care? And then get in trouble for asking. And then we don't even go. That's like a wasteful trouble.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Why would you even do that?

[Kevin]

Don't bring it up.

[Bobby Bones]

So. All right, that's what's up. We're done. Thanks, Jeff Goodman, for coming on. You guys watching the game tonight?

[Eddie]

Absolutely. Heck, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Absolutely. It's not your team. It's late. I didn't know if you'd stay up and watch it.

[Eddie]

What do you mean?

[Kevin]

Yeah, but it's good basketball and it's for the. You for this podcast.

[Eddie]

You know, Arkansas is honorarily my team. Like, they are my team. My kids.

[Bobby Bones]

Today it's Florida State. Cause you have on Florida State street gear for Florida.

[Eddie]

No, no, it was just on top of the laundry pile, really.

[Kevin]

But.

[Eddie]

But I'm telling you, even my kids, they go. They root for Arkansas. Only because I do. And I only do it for you, so.

[Bobby Bones]

And you do because you got free stuff, though.

[Eddie]

Yeah. And we've been so many times.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. Anything else?

[Eddie]

No, man. That's it. Go Hogs.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And Texas. Good luck. Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike. Mike's got the whistle ready. Are they playing tonight or tomorrow? Tonight. They play after us before six. So are we the last game then, cuz?

[Eddie]

No, second to last. Illinois and Houston. Houston.

[Bobby Bones]

But they're in like the.

[Eddie]

I know, it's weird.

[Kevin]

Yeah, they're south. Where are they play at? 9 o' clock our time. Central.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that Houston? Where are they playing?

[Kevin]

Houston.

[Eddie]

That's weird.

[Bobby Bones]

They start at nine. Central.

[Kevin]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

You would think they would start our game later and let that one start.

[Eddie]

Correct. Since you're in the west, that's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I hope Houston wins. I bought them another.

[Eddie]

I bought Illinois and the Calcutta.

[Bobby Bones]

Why would I not root for Houston? I bought them for the same reason you're going.

[Kevin]

No, no, no, no.

[Eddie]

I hope I win.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. We'll see you next week. Mike, hit that whistle. All right, bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow brandon on socials. Randonray music. You can follow the show on Instagram @bobbybonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host producereddy segment producer ickoffkevin and executive producer ikevistro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

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