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Bobby Bones
Dressing.
Eddie
Oh, French dressing.
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
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Ah, that's good.
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Unknown Speaker 2
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Bobby Bones
Exactly.
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Eddie
This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking basketball and they all wear a whistle yet stupid. But what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. Eddie, blow the whistle. All right, relevant sports stuff coming up in a minute. That's what we do. Yes, sometimes. But I do think we need to have a little announcement here. I think it just needs to be said so on this show, the whole time we've done the show, my name is Bobby and that's Eddie. Kick off Kevin Mike is producing the show. Casey digital edits video. Reed, who's been my guy that's been on the road with me and life and all creative content. La la. We told you Reed was leaving and Reid was moving. Reid's about to be wife is going to be a doctor. And that program works. You kind of don't get to pick where you go.
Bobby Bones
No, not really. It's like a sorority thing. It's like a. I never did that.
Eddie
So they pillified sometimes.
Bobby Bones
It depends on the program, you know.
Eddie
So what do you mean? What do you mean by that?
Bobby Bones
So it's like. It's like they make a. They make a list and then it basically goes down like.
Eddie
Oh, like picking a sorority, not being in one.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
Eddie
Or like how they pick you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, for sure.
Eddie
Yeah. I've never been in a sorority. I didn't know what he was talking about. Dude. Yeah. Were you in a fraternity?
Bobby Bones
I was.
Unknown Speaker 2
Remember they took him to the woods.
Eddie
I know. And they played the rooster Song. But I didn't know if he stayed in after that.
Unknown Speaker 2
Did you?
Bobby Bones
I got cut. I came back, though. I went through it again.
Eddie
A redemption story. That's a story for Disney. Not even another day, but, like, maybe later today.
Bobby Bones
And it was. And it was weird because, like, I knew what was happening. Even though all the other, like, new pledges didn't know what happened.
Eddie
What was happening when they abducted you?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, Like, I had to go through that again.
Eddie
So then just hold off on that story. Yeah. Okay. So Reed is engaged. He's going to be married. He told his about to be wife that wherever she goes, he's just going to go with her.
Bobby Bones
Love, man.
Eddie
Love, man.
Bobby Bones
Amen, brother. Love.
Eddie
And so you guys been living apart for how long?
Bobby Bones
So we've been together seven years. Out of those seven years, we've lived five years apart.
Eddie
And you would drive down to, like.
Bobby Bones
It'S been Monroe, Louisiana, for four of those years. And it's a seven and a half hour drive. So try to go once a month. So I put some miles on the car.
Unknown Speaker 2
Love, man.
Eddie
Love. Her, man love. He's like, but. And I told him, second time, at least don't let me be naked when you abduct me. No, dude, we're not there right now.
Bobby Bones
We'll get to it.
Eddie
So she had picked her places on, like, Little Rock, I think was an option.
Bobby Bones
It was like Little Rock, Texas.
Eddie
Memphis.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. St. Louis.
Eddie
And then any far, far ones.
Bobby Bones
Orlando was like the furthest. Nice. And that we mainly just put that because, like, worst case, like, Disney, man. Yeah, Disney. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like Disney World.
Eddie
So without saying it, though, but she has her place. Did she pick it?
Bobby Bones
So we. We were battling between.
Eddie
What do you mean, battling?
Bobby Bones
Like, we were like, we were trying to decide where to list, like, where.
Eddie
So you're listing in order and then they're listing in order and they kind of match them.
Bobby Bones
Yes, exactly.
Eddie
And so like a sorority, like, have any idea? Oh, yeah, say that.
Unknown Speaker 2
And Nashville was not an option.
Bobby Bones
No, not for pediatrics.
Eddie
Stupid kids.
Bobby Bones
I know, man. Them kids, dude.
Eddie
All right, so go ahead. And so you're listing them, and so you are deciding on your order. And in your version, what did you want to be? Number one.
Bobby Bones
So at first I wanted it to be Memphis because, like, her family's close to there and, like, I'm closer to Nashville that way, too. And so then we went to St. Louis to do a second look. It was also Valentine's weekend, so we were like, we'll Just also make a trip out of it. And so we went there and just the vibe of, like, not turning the street and worrying about your safety was a little bit better.
Eddie
Wait, have you been okay, anyway?
Bobby Bones
Better, better. No better, though, as far as for her going to the hospital, like when.
Eddie
She did her, like that specific block.
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
Eddie
Got it. Okay.
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
Eddie
Okay.
Unknown Speaker 2
You drove the route.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Eddie
Because.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, when. When she did her little rotation in Memphis, she had to like, get up at like 4 in the morning and like, literally step over homeless dudes to get to the parking lot.
Eddie
And like, that's okay. Regardless.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, Anyway, I hear you. Anyway, as far as vibes is like, it's. It's an hour. It's an hour further away. Further away than Memphis is to Nashville. So it's like four and a half hours from here. And the, like, living lifestyle there, like, just seemed a whole lot better as far as, like, people were actually going out and doing stuff.
Eddie
And I think it was just where you were looking at that block at that time, though, because you're like, people had on hats. I'm like, no, dude, that's exactly. Just weren't people in hats where you were? That's true, but I hear you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
So you. From your experience, you, like, this doesn't mean picked it, but you liked St. Louis over Memphis now and you guys ranking for sure. And so. But now you're waiting on their ranking to come back.
Bobby Bones
Yep, exactly.
Eddie
And you get the rankings back. And it turns out. Which, by the way, if Reed was going to live in Memphis, we were going to find a way for him to, you know, be here a little bit.
Unknown Speaker 2
It's close enough.
Eddie
Close enough. Can't be here all the time. Obviously, he's got a life. It really felt like Memphis was going to be. But apparently there was a homeless person that had to be stepped over.
Bobby Bones
That shook the hole, that one guy. Dang it.
Eddie
So what happened?
Bobby Bones
So it turns out I'm going to the loo, baby. I'm going to be a Cardinal.
Eddie
No, no, you're not going to school there?
Bobby Bones
No, I'm not signing.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah.
Luke Loucks
They also have the Rams.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we do get. We do get tickets to the Cardinals.
Eddie
When I be a blues. That's awesome. So you're moving to St. Louis?
Bobby Bones
I'm moving to St. Louis.
Luke Loucks
We've.
Bobby Bones
Dude, we've been on the freaking grind trying to find a place, and it's kind of a nightmare, but we were like, do we. Do we buy? Do we. Do we rent? And so I think we're just going to rent for. For the first year and try to figure things out because, I mean, no.
Eddie
No, we don't care about this park.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
So, I mean, like, what kind of.
Bobby Bones
Bed do we buy?
Eddie
Which part of Wayfair? No, no, we're good. Wait, so you are. When is your last day with us?
Bobby Bones
Last day here would be May 1st. So I'm. The moving is probably going to be like that May 3rd weekend.
Eddie
And how sad are you because there are sacrifices, obviously. How sad are you because you have to leave this.
Bobby Bones
I'm extremely sad because, I mean, as far as like, like being around, like, you guys and like, the connections I've made and just being able to do cool stuff, like freaking go to California and potentially go to Razorback game is like, when. When do you ever get to do that sort of stuff? So, like, that's. That's going to be sad. But I'm just. I'm also excited to just kind of.
Eddie
Figure out the Super Bowl. I took him to Super Bowl.
Bobby Bones
I know. That's what I'm saying.
Eddie
Three weeks ago, I would have picked the Super Bowl. He's like, example, you know.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Eddie
Super bowl is definitely too many homeless guys stepping over there to get into the game for sure. Go ahead.
Bobby Bones
There's too many things to count. But. But I mean, my ultimate dream is always to have my own production company. So I would love to just. I want to get as much business coming my way to where I can just start hiring people and. And do that. So it's going to be. It's going to be a struggle a little bit, but I'm going to be in town. I know you'll probably say that like, okay, yeah, he says he's going to come back in town.
Eddie
Oh, this is definitely high school graduation, where we're going to be friends. We're always going to stay in touch. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you'll be here once every seven weeks, and your production company's not going to start, so you suck.
Bobby Bones
What?
Eddie
I completely shut him down.
Unknown Speaker 2
He's like, I don't know if that's going to work.
Eddie
You have years now that you have to dedicate to her and that you're not going to be able to build anything here. Why not build it there? Is my point. Not that there's a lot of work, as much work there, but because this is a town where there's a big creative hub. But yeah, the Cardinals over there, though. He is one.
Bobby Bones
Right?
Eddie
So you're moving to St. Louis. Moving to St. Louis and you're leaving all of us behind.
Bobby Bones
I'll be back. I promise I will.
Eddie
No, I will be back.
Bobby Bones
I will be knocking at your door.
Unknown Speaker 2
No, you won't.
Bobby Bones
Yes, I will. Watch me.
Unknown Speaker 2
He comes to our windows.
Eddie
Congratulations.
Bobby Bones
Thank you.
Eddie
At least there is some closure on where you're going to live and how she feel about it.
Bobby Bones
I mean, yeah, she felt great. It's such an incredible program and, like, super prestigious for. For pediatrics and stuff like that. So she's. She's super pumped and she's going to get good education there. So. Good for you, Reed.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Thanks, man.
Unknown Speaker 2
Good for you, man.
Bobby Bones
That didn't really sound very enthusiastic.
Unknown Speaker 2
Well, we're sad. We're sad you're leaving.
Eddie
We are sad you're leaving because you've been a big part of the group. But we also know once you're gone, you're gone.
Unknown Speaker 2
You're not.
Eddie
Dude, it's not you. You may come back occasionally, but you. You're not coming back.
Unknown Speaker 2
Like, Kevin didn't even invite us to his wedding party.
Eddie
You know what I mean? Did you listen to that episode? Yes, of course I did. This is what happened with Kevin, because Kevin, like, wedding party, a wedding. He has, like, all this stuff.
Unknown Speaker 2
Baptism.
Eddie
He has like. He has like a. You're there. He has, like a gathering to talk about the party or there's cake. And so we're on here going, we can. Nobody got invited to crap. And it wouldn't have mattered, but he invited, like, another random guy that works in the building. If it was only like. Like family, we'd have got it. So he was gone on his honeymoon, and I posted that episode. Not to him. I just posted, oh, we're talking about him. Yeah. And the headline is like, Kevin eats balls or something. Or whatever it was. Bobby and Eddie get upset with Kevin. Yeah. And so I swipe up to see who looked at it, and I saw Kevin looked at it, and I was like, he for sure could not have kept his curiosity from listening to this episode. I'm on my honeymoon. Like, what the hell are they saying about me over there?
Bobby Bones
So, yes, yes.
Eddie
I'm sorry, guys, again, but you live here, so we're good to invite us to things. So.
Unknown Speaker 2
That's my point.
Eddie
Reed, it's gonna be awesome. Good luck to you. You're gonna do another few weeks episodes with us and then, you know, move on. Moving on up.
Unknown Speaker 2
Good luck, man.
Bobby Bones
I'll be around.
Eddie
You're not.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh, my gosh. Stop saying that.
Eddie
It's high School, Right. It's high school.
Bobby Bones
It's okay.
Eddie
You're gonna move on with life, and that's okay. But it's. And that's awesome. Yeah. But it really is. We'll be friends forever, right? In the yearbook and, like. Yeah. I have a fond memory of them. Yeah. Have I talked to them in eight years?
Unknown Speaker 2
No.
Eddie
No.
Unknown Speaker 2
And that's okay.
Bobby Bones
It's not like eight hours away. Like, I drove seven and a half hours every month for four years.
Unknown Speaker 2
Because you were gonna marry her.
Bobby Bones
But I love you guys. Okay.
Eddie
Are you gonna do stuff to me? Okay, then. No. That's it.
Luke Loucks
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
That's fair.
Eddie
All right. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker 2
That's a big incentive.
Eddie
Okay, so that's that. We do have sports stuff to talk about. Let's take a break. We will come back. Coach Luke Locks, the new Florida State head coach, will be on with us and more here. Thank you. Talk about pick six. DraftKings, pick six, the app. Hey, you know what I say about that, right?
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Eddie
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Eddie
Well, what do you know?
Unknown Speaker 2
I'll say that.
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Unknown Speaker 2
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Eddie
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Unknown Speaker 4
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Unknown Speaker 2
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Eddie
They put out something on social media so I'd get called in the middle of the night all the time.
Unknown Speaker 4
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Eddie
Are your ears bored? Yeah.
AJ Jacobs
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Luke Loucks
Okay.
AJ Jacobs
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Eddie
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AJ Jacobs
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Bobby Bones
Tres.
AJ Jacobs
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Eddie
That's what I call a podcast. Listen to Locatora Radio Season 10 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And now let's get over to Florida State men's head basketball coach Luke Loucks. What's cool is he played ball there. He was team captain, got into coaching. He then was a Warriors assistant, won two NBA championships with the warriors, spent a few years with the Kings. Pretty cool to go back home. He was hired March 9 to replace legendary head coach Leonard Hamilton, who we met, spent time with, was awesome. And here he is, coach Luke Loucks. Coach, I gotta tell you, I have become a secondary FSU basketball fan because of Eric and Chuck that work there. And they could not be. They could not be happier that you are the coach. I've talked to both of them. I don't talk to anybody on the phone. I don't talk on the phone at all. I've talked to both of them, and they're like, you are going to love Luke. And so let me just say that, first of all, congratulations, because I know it's. I'm going home. I go like, congratulations on getting the job. Give me your emotions right now. Coach.
Luke Loucks
Man, I'm thrilled you mentioned Eric and Chuck, two people I've kept in touch with since my playing days. I'm through the roof now. We got a lot of work to do, and there's a lot going on, so I can't take too long to enjoy the moment. We got to hit the ground running. But I'm excited.
Eddie
Chuck, I believe, said that when he was working as maybe assistant Sid, that you're playing then for him while he was there and got to know you as a player. Is that true?
Luke Loucks
That's true. Yep.
Eddie
That's pretty cool. It's just so cool to be able to wear your logo again, like, again, after you've done your thing. You play ball at the highest level. You played overseas, but you get to wear your logo. How quickly did this come together?
Luke Loucks
It was quite a long process. I knew there was a chance just with Coach Hamilton's age and Coach Hamilton's a mentor of mine. So we. We kept in close communication throughout the years, both when I was playing professionally overseas and in the minor leagues of the NBA and as my coaching career got started, he was. He's of my mentors. He's a close friend of mine, so he helped me in a lot of different ways as my career began to take off in the NBA. And through that, you know, naturally, he. He. He's Hit a point in his career where eventually you gotta. You gotta move on to other things. And he had such a good run and, and so successful on and off the court. So I knew, you know, just timing wise, there could be a chance, but it's never real until it's real. So over the past, you know, six months, it began to be a little more real. And then once the actual interview process took place, you know, I felt like I had a good shot at it and I was fortunate enough to get the job, and here we are.
Eddie
Did Coach Hamilton ever just sing to you? Because he sang to us. He put us in a room. He just let it. He was. I mean, he gave us a good two or three minutes. He ever do that when you're playing with him?
Luke Loucks
Yeah. So I told him one of the first things he needs to do in retirement is get singing lessons because he enjoys singing and I don't know how many people around him enjoy the singing, but he's such a kind heart. His gospel music, he's always playing music. He's got a great spirit about him. But, yeah, he's got to work on the chords a little bit.
Eddie
Does that help you? And do you think that helps the organization? That, and I hate to use the word blessing, but that there was a positive relationship and you played for Coach Hamilton and now you're succeeding Coach Hamilton?
Luke Loucks
Yeah, without a doubt. Coach Hamilton and I talk almost every day since getting the job. And he, he's been a huge supporter, both just with my mental stability. I, I told the story the other day. He called me a few days ago and he always checks in. Hey, how's the recruiting going? Do you need any help? Do you need any relationships I can help you with? How's your staff coming along? And so I thought it was one of those calls and, and he said, hey, can you send me your wife's phone number? I. I think I have it, but I don't know the same one. And I'm like, yeah, why do you need Stevie's phone number? And he's like, because I want my wife to call her and just mentor her a little bit. And I'm worried about her and the kids and the transit. So that's the, that's the type of guy he is, right? He's. He's as selfless as they come. He always cares about other people. And it's been a huge blessing, like you said, not only just. Just to be okay with my hire, but also to support me in a lot of different ways as a young.
Eddie
Head coach portal just opened up. That's. That's that. I live in a town called Mount Pine, Arkansas, and they release the water from the dam like once a year fully, and it was like, whoosh. I gotta imagine that's what, day one, day two of the portals, like.
Luke Loucks
Yeah, there's a lot of preparation and legwork leading up to the portal. Right. You're having conversations with agents, with coaches, with former coaches, because you can't contact the kids until they're officially in the portal, which opened yesterday at midnight. So. So there's a lot of preparation leading up to it. But then once, once this thing, like you said, it's like a dam that you can't turn it off. Right. I told this story to one of our coaches. I woke up this morning and my right elbow was on fire, right? Just like, lit. And I couldn't figure out what happened. And then the first call I got, I went to put the phone to my ear, and I realized I'd been on the phone for about 14 hours the day before. And so I had to go find my AirPods because my elbows, it feels like a steak knife center right now.
Eddie
So I have what they would call tennis elbow for playing pickleball. You have portal elbow. We need to start naming that for coaches. You have portal elbow at this point. So how many hours of the day. And I appreciate you talking with us so early because I know right now it's a very intense time for everyone because of that. How many hours of the day now are you talking with a player, an agent, a parent, about what next season's going to look like?
Luke Loucks
Yeah, it's constant. And our staff, our assistant coaches have done a great job lining things up, but they're. They're constantly. They'll walk in the room. I'll be on one call as soon as I finish. Hey, we got this guy on the line. This is who it is. This is why I need to talk to him. We watched your film yesterday. You approved of the player. You think he can fit what we're trying to build in our vision. You need to talk to him for 10 minutes. And then that's just a constant back and forth. And in between, you know, you're back in your. Your town where you played. And so there's a lot of relationships, a lot of close relationships with people I care about that want to stop by the office. And so you don't want to be disrespectful, but at the same time, you got to build a team, you know, or you're going to be kicking yourself for the next 10 months that we missed out on this guy. Missed out on this guy. So it's, it's. I'm going a thousand miles an hour right now. I keep using the, I'm just swimming in the deep end, you know, and, and, but I'm, I'm super grateful for the staff, my assistant coaches, they're doing a phenomenal job and without them, I couldn't get any of this done.
Eddie
I want to ask a culture versus a short term success question, and I hope I'm asking this in a way that comes off as somewhat intelligent. Year one with you being the head coach of Florida State, obviously you have a culture to build, but obviously college basketball has changed where it's kind of like European basketball where everybody's on a one year contract for lack of a better term. You have a culture you want to build, but you also need really good players. What, where is your line right now of you need a certain type of player, but you also need a player that's really good. That may not exactly be the culture you're looking for.
Luke Loucks
Yeah, I'm a big believer in culture, drive, success. Right. The process of the way you do things brings the results. And any coach can sit here and talk about culture and any coach can sit here and talk about, I want to win this many games, but that is a daily commitment to a certain standard, a certain set of values you have, starting with me and my staff and everyone in this building. And as we build this team, those are the type of players we need to bring in that we think can uphold those standards in the locker room. So, Bobby, of course there has to be a level of talent to win games, but talent can only get you so far, you know, it can only win you so many games. If the locker room is disconnected, if there's not a commitment to a championship culture, those championship results will never happen. So I'm a big believer in surrounding myself on my staff with the right people who are about the right things. And then through that, through our evaluation, through our lens, gathering intel, you can tell really quickly if a kid has that and fits that or he doesn't. So those are the type of kids we're going after. Obviously there's a baseline level of talent that you have to have, but if, if there's a kid that's a little more talented but doesn't quite fit with what we're doing, or a kid that's a little less talented, but he's a really, really good character, Hard working, high IQ kid. We're probably going to go after the lat.
Eddie
I'm going to be candid with you here, and I will appreciate any response you give to this, but I know in the booster world, especially when it comes to nil and collectives and et cetera, that we're all having to learn and deal with, I am a, I would say semi significant booster at the University of Arkansas. I'm not John Tyson. I don't have $6 million to pay a coach. But there are times where, let me say this, in a way, I feel like I can say it, that there is money that I give to my school, right? And so it's, hey, can you help here? Can we help there? Are you having to create new relationships for that new part of college basketball now, specifically when it comes to making sure these players get nil money first?
Luke Loucks
Bobby, I don't, I don't know if I could sense a little bit of hesitation in your voice, but if Arkansas is not treating you right, you can always come over to Florida State.
Eddie
Hey, I'm telling you, basketball ain't treating me good, football's treating me good, basketball treats me like crap. But I hear you. Thank you, coach.
Luke Loucks
If there's any level of not satisfied, just come on Forest State. You're welcome anytime. But no, it's, it's been, it's been, it's been good. There's a lot of built in relationships from my playing days with donors, with boosters, with faculty, with administration. Michael Alford, Rad has been incredible. Peter Collins, the head of our board, has been incredible. Connecting me with the people I need to talk to. And a lot of these people at some, some level I already have relationships with. So it's easy for me. It's not a transactional conversation with a lot of these people because I know them and they know me and they know what I'm about. So it's, it's. I, I never want to be that guy on the corner asking for money. You know, hey, hey, we can't do this without you. Because they're aware of it. You know, without donors, without boosters, without the, the fans having equity in what we're building, we don't have a team. And so everyone's aware of it. Everyone's been super supportive. We're trying to do this the right way, but we're also trying to give back, right? There's this perception in collegiate athletics right now that it's just we need more, we need more, we need more. And it's like, okay, well, what can we give you, right? How can we build this relationship so it makes sense for you so you feel like you have equity in what we're building.
Eddie
And you're playing time at Florida State and then you're coaching or even your playing time overseas and you're, and you're playing in professional basketball offensively. What are you doing at Florida State that you have taken from all those different elements or are you still running basically the same thing that you ran as the point guard at Florida State back in the day?
Luke Loucks
No, it's going to be much different. And that's no disrespect to Coach Hamilton or his staff. I've just been trained as a coach in the, in the NBA ranks and it's a different, different style. We're, we're heavy on the analytics game and using data to drive what we're doing and support what we're doing at the NBA level, obviously you have much more resources, right? There's, there's literal scientists on your staff that we just don't have in college. But there is a baseline level of belief in terms of efficiency, in terms of my basketball philosophy and way I want to teach it. So the way, the way I tell recruits and their parents and their agents, it's going to be a mesh of an NBA style, but in the college game. So it's going to be a little bit faster, a little bit more pace, a little bit more space, less posting up, more three pointers, more offensive rebounds, and those things generally lead to more efficient way to play. And, and, and then with our, within our evaluation, what type of kid can support that? Right? We want to help these kids get to professional sports. Right? And I, I know what it takes to get there, and I know it takes a stick because that's, that's, that's my foundation of coaching. So how can I put these kids in the best position possible? So when scouts come watch us play, they can see it, right? They can see, oh, this kid could actually work in our system. That is usually not the case in college. Usually we get these kids in the NBA and the draft process and in the first week of training camp, and they have no idea how to play, right? It's like a, it's like you're rewiring the player and now you can't play a total NBA system in college. There's a few nuances that you got to tweak, but for the most part. And like in the sec, you guys play. Alabama is doing a great job. Nate Oates has done a great job. He's brought in NBA staff. He plays a modern style of basketball with his pace and the way they play and the way they move the ball and the way they cut. And there's other schools that are trying to do it with their hires, but not many colleges have not only the ability to do it, but just a basic understanding of, of okay, this is where these kids are going. Maybe we should help with our system to get them there.
Eddie
You mentioned Nate Oats and Nate Oats. I think about just looking at the shot chart and it's all underneath the goal or it's all three pointers. Right. And so not a lot of mid range. When I think of Alabama, great athletes, not a lot of mid range. And if I'm going to be extremely technical and ask, the question that I want to know from you is there's a lot more handing off and the ball holder also screening, but it brings an extra defensive player to the player holding the ball. What are your thoughts? Because it seems like that's more than ever. You have guys handing the ball off as a pass, but again you're bringing an extra defensive player to the player holding the ball. You do it. Your thoughts on that philosophy, where do you fall on that?
Luke Loucks
Yeah, some of it's personnel driven, some of it depends on who's on your team and what style. I've seen more heavy pick and roll teams be really successful. In Sacramento with the Kings, we had a guy named Demonte Sabonis and obviously we surrounded him. De'Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, all these guys that could shoot pass and dribble, which is what I'm going to try to do here. But Sabonis was very good with the ball as a center. So we, I think several years in a row we led with dribble handoffs and handoff actions and we were very low in our pick and roll action just because the ball naturally found Sabona. So, so, so often that that is something to an extent I'll bring to Florida State. Most coaches spend a lot of time in their defensive preparation on guarding pick and rolls because it happens so often. It's a little bit trickier guarding dribble handoffs because usually, you know, if you think about a big or even a guard, guard to guard handoff, if, if you mess up that coverage, the guy dribbling the ball can just keep it and go. And that's not the case in the pick and roll. So the, the guy with the ball is live, you know, and it's just A little more complicated to guard that what I do believe. And, and some, again, some college are doing. A lot of NBA teams are doing it the ball and body movement. So there has to be a constant movement, a constant flow of cutting towards the rim in an aggressive manner to collapse the defense, to put a threat on the rim and then re spacing out the backside. So, so think about defensive structure. I know I'm getting a little technical and nerdy here. There, there's. You got to protect the paint, which means help's got to come, which means at one point you have two guys on you. And then as, as the guy with the ball, you just got to make the right play over and over again. Sometimes the right play is for you to score. Most of the time as help comes, the right play is to find the open guy and create another advantage on the backside.
Eddie
I've got like five more minutes with you. I have a play suggestion of like maybe you tried out early on. I just don't know why it doesn't happen. And I've only ever had happen to me during pickup because I suck. But it works. It's called the three point airball alley oop. Now follow me here. Coach, imagine this because I'm the one shooting. I'm the one shooting the three pointer. That's the airball. But if everything looks like a three point shot with one of your best shooters, one of your higher percentage shooters, he purposefully is shooting an air balloon to where you're the other. The back cut knows it's an airball, jumps up, times it. Everyone else thinks it's three pointer. He, there's an alley oop. They're just sitting there. Why don't people run the three ball airball alley oop. Isn't that the greatest play ever, Bobby?
Luke Loucks
I'm gonna have to think about that a little more. Yeah, exactly. That could be a potential for a first play. You know, when I was, when I was coaching in Golden State, you know, we had all these shooters, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, and the list goes on. But we used to talk about this reminds, used to talk about the flying V, right? The flying Mighty Ducks from the Mighty Ducks. And we said, what if you just put four guys in front of Steph right, in a flying V and you just worked your way down the court in a flying V until Steph got close enough to the three point line where he could shoot it. How would you guard it right? And so this Bobby, you could be. I still got a spot on my Coaching staff open. You could be an assistant coach for me.
Eddie
You can't afford me. I'll be honest with you. At this point, you can't afford me.
Luke Loucks
But.
Eddie
But. But I'm just saying, if you have one of your. One of your shooters, everything looks the same. And he purposefully is shooting an airball to the point where one of your big guys knows it's an airball coming times it, right? Because that's all a rebound is, is timing it right and dunks it when you use it. Coach, I just want you to text me and be like, I used your plate. It could be in, like. No, not even ACC game. It could be like you're playing the high school. Yeah, Tallahassee High. You let me know, because I think that's the play. Okay, Two final questions for you, Coach. The first time you put on that logo again, was that a moment for you? Was it, like a ceremonial thing, like, I'm the coach now? Let me put this on.
Luke Loucks
Yeah, there was a lot of emotions over the past few weeks. My wife was an athlete here, too. She was a swimmer. So everywhere we've gone, both as a player and as a coach, we brought Florida State with us. You know, our kids. My son last night FaceTimed me in his Florida State pajamas, which he's had far before I got the job. So really, the most emotional moment, probably, with this whole process wasn't the press conference, wasn't addressing the team. It was when we got off the plane in Tallahassee and Michael Alford had. Our athletic director was with us and our family, my wife, my three children. We got off the plane, and at the private airport, I don't know how many people, probably 75 to 100 people. The band was there, the cheerleaders were there. You know, all fans, some boosters that I know. And it was. It was emotional. I don't. I don't cry much, but I was very close, and my. My wife's just, you know, full emotion. My kids are looking around like, where. Where are we right now? You know, like, we're trying to explain them what Tallahassee was, and. And they're walking into this, like, you know, incredible moment with the band playing. And that was when it really hit me. This is. This is pretty awesome. You know, I get to come back home and. And. And put this logo back on it. It means a little more than a normal coaching job. You know, you just have a little more invested in the situation. So. Yeah, it's been. It's been great so far, man. Bobby, I'm super excited to be back.
Eddie
One comment, final question. There's a gas station near your campus. I'm obsessed with it because you put all the stuff on like the desk on the. And it just rings it up automatically. Have you been, you know that gas station, it's right there by campus. And you like get a candy bar, put a little water there and it goes like.
Unknown Speaker 2
It was a 7 11, whatever.
Eddie
It was like $4.29. Nobody even said a word to me. And I, I was like, what the crap just happened in Tallahassee? So big shout out to the gas station near campus. You're gonna see it. Coach, you've been gone long time, but you're about to be reintegrated. And then.
Luke Loucks
I haven't seen that.
Eddie
Yeah, trust me, that and the three point play are the two things you're going to remember me for. The final thing is we did a deal here. We were talking about if we could take one skill from any person and we just had it automatically. It didn't have to be sports, but I picked Steph Curry's ability to shoot. Can you just tell me what he was like to be around and watch him do what he does?
Luke Loucks
Yes. Steph, there's a reason they won all those championship. And a lot of people talk about his skill, which we can discuss here in a second. But, but, but truthfully, as a person, as a human, he is one of the best people, the superstar. Not one of the best people that I've ever been around. You know, he, he knows and he shouldn't. He knows my kids names. He's been over to my house to like have card games. You know what I mean? Like, he's just, he's a good dude. He asked, he asked about Stevie. Every time I see him, he genuinely cares about people and that's what makes him so special as a leader of that organization is he, he invests in his teammates, he invests in the staff, he invests in the ownership and the community. And when you have someone as talented as Steph, to me, maybe the most skilled player in the history of basketball in terms of his shooting ability, his ability to score, his ability to dribble pass, all of it. And then you add that to his character and the way he represents himself and the organization on a day to day basis. Basis, like I said, there's a reason they've been as successful and there's a lot of people around them. The Draymond's a clays, Steve Kerr, of course, what he's built, but Steph is the engine that makes the car go. And he. He is. Is truly. It was incredible for me as a young coach to not only coach him, but to learn from him.
Eddie
Shooting, you just shoot all day. Is that what he does? He just shoots all day?
Luke Loucks
You know, he. He's pretty structured in his workouts. He's got a great routine.
Eddie
He.
Luke Loucks
He doesn't. He shoots a lot. Lot. Now he shoots a lot, but he makes so much. It's. It's kind of a thing. Once he gets in a rhythm and he feels really good, he'll just. He'll cut it. But sometimes that takes a little bit longer to get to. Usually it's, you know, 15, 20, 30 minutes. They play so many games at that level when. When you're playing three, four games a night, you can't spend hours and hours and hours shooting like he did when he was younger, just with how many miles he's had on his body. But. But his routine, he might be. No, no. He definitely is the most consistent hardest worker I've ever been around. And. But he also works smart. You know, he's not just going to be in the gym for four hours wasting his time. It's. It's a game like preparation and focus and intensity to his workouts. That's. That's truly impressive.
Eddie
Well, that's like me in this interview. I'm in rhythm, so I'm quitting because I'm, like, feeling it. I'm like, why? Why keep on? I'm Right now. I got it all day. This is awesome. Hey, congrats. It's. It's super cool. I'd love to see people go home and do their thing. We're rooting for you. I'm rooting for Florida State anyway. I've got a lot of great relationship relationships over there. We want to come when you guys start next season. We definitely want to come and check out a game and mostly just get free gear, but still, we want to be there. So. Coach, congratulations. It's a hectic time right now, but we're looking forward to next season, and I hope you have a great rest of the week.
Luke Loucks
Bobby, thanks for having me on. You're welcome anytime.
Eddie
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Unknown Speaker 4
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Unknown Speaker 2
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Eddie
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Unknown Speaker 4
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Eddie
Well, I guess I'm saying I like.
Bobby Bones
You, you like me.
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Unknown Speaker 2
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Eddie
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Unknown Speaker 2
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Eddie
After you, Chulito.
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Eddie
Much as he loves this job. Chulito. That painting is ours.
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Eddie
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Luke Loucks
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Eddie
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Eddie
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Unknown Speaker 2
The airport, but you can hear airplanes, which is kind of cool.
Eddie
That's a good point. I expected to hear all night, but I've never stayed as close to an airport in a hotel unless I was being forced to layover in a city. And they gave me a free voucher.
Unknown Speaker 2
Right.
Eddie
Like, this is the closest I've ever stayed to an airport. And so we get here and we type in Hyatt because that's where we're staying. Yeah, there's like eight Hyatt's. We didn't know. So we go to the wrong one and we're already tired. Long flight and we have all our all of our bags. We're Ubering. And we're like, we're here to check in. And they're like, oh. Oh, you're at the wrong one. And we're like, great. And then Reed goes, I lost my phone in the Uber.
Bobby Bones
It's bound to happen. Man fell, right? It slipped right out of my pocket.
Eddie
And he goes, and I had all my. My phone catching pants, too.
Bobby Bones
I do. I only buy pants with zippers if they're not jeans. But, like, any kind of. Like joggers, they have to have zippers.
Eddie
Like pocket zippers.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Okay. So not only am I having to find a different hotel that we're in now, I gotta track down Reed's Uber drivers.
Unknown Speaker 2
And you're doing all this on your phone?
Eddie
One phone for all of this? We have all of our bags.
Unknown Speaker 2
I would have helped you, but you had the Uber app. Like, you had to do it.
Eddie
I had to find the new place and find his phone.
Bobby Bones
I mean, I didn't have a phone. I couldn't help.
Eddie
You know, that's precisely the point.
Unknown Speaker 2
That's true, too.
Eddie
And not only that, what made it even more difficult is our driver was Chinese and her English very limited.
Unknown Speaker 2
You actually talked to her on the phone, right?
Eddie
Yes, and she was just trying to. Because I pushed the button that said, lost an item, please call us. Then she calls me. And a lot of times when you're in Uber, you don't have to talk to the person much. You can or you don't have to. I would think when the language isn't the same. Even if I'm in another country, you just don't talk much because you don't have to. And.
Unknown Speaker 2
No need.
Eddie
You're good. Can't.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
Well, now we had to. And we weren't even looking at each other. And she was trying to read her number back so we could save her number to text her. She couldn't understand me. I could understand her. We're yelling at each other, thinking that the yelling helps.
Unknown Speaker 2
I heard you at one point say, and these weren't the numbers, but you're like, okay, you're like, eddie, write this down. 7, 4, 9, 6. And you're like, you only gave me four numbers.
Bobby Bones
What's the rest?
Eddie
So we're trying to track down Reed's phone. We end up having to leave Reed's phone and say, leave it at the front desk. And we hope that happens. And then we're like, reed's gonna give you a big tip.
Bobby Bones
Oh, God.
Eddie
And so he did get his phone back, miraculously.
Bobby Bones
It felt good to not have a phone for a little bit, to be honest. I was also kind of expecting to have, like, some sort of, like, text when I got back, and I just. I guess nobody wants to talk to me.
Eddie
Oh, that's the worst. When you lose your phone for a long time.
Unknown Speaker 2
It was a long time.
Eddie
Like, man, I'm have to get in and really, really respond to a lot of these messages. You have nothing.
Bobby Bones
I know. Okay, well, that's anticlimactic.
Eddie
We did get it. I went to bed at about 6pm because it's 8pm our time. My wife called me, though, was like, tornadoes.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
And so I'm on the phone with her. We're both watching different News feeds and YouTube videos, and she's got the dogs, and I'm here kind of feeling guilty, and so finally fall back asleep again. But we wake up to go over to Eisen's show this morning, and Reid's like, I had a crying baby all night long, I guess, screaming, baby, you're.
Unknown Speaker 2
Having a bad trip, man.
Bobby Bones
You. Hey, if you be quiet, you might hear it right now.
Eddie
But I wouldn't think most people stay in this hotel more than one night.
Unknown Speaker 2
I wouldn't think so. Right by the airport.
Eddie
Yeah. My theory is you only stay here if you're staying here at night.
Unknown Speaker 2
Unless you're us.
Eddie
My room still hasn't been cleaned, and it's like 4pm yeah.
Unknown Speaker 2
They're still working, though. I saw them in the hallways.
Eddie
But my point is, if people aren't in it for multiple nights, it's. It doesn't matter.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
So they probably don't rush to clean it earlier because the people aren't staying two nights. And the rooms that do get cleaned earlier, they put those people in first.
Unknown Speaker 2
True.
Eddie
So why would they be in a rush to clean the rooms if it's not a capacity? But screaming baby, absolutely horrific.
Bobby Bones
That's their door right there.
Eddie
I know.
Bobby Bones
You can't. I mean, if you're listening, you don't know what I'm talking about. But that's.
Unknown Speaker 2
That's it right there.
Eddie
It wasn't even the one next to the bed. It's across the room.
Bobby Bones
It's like we share a room.
Eddie
Did you bang?
Bobby Bones
No, I didn't. I kind of felt bad because, I mean, that baby was screaming for like, three hours straight, and then it stopped for like an hour. And then I Woke up at 4 and it was screaming again. And you could. You could hear like, blippi or some sort of, like, kids TV show just blaring in their room that they're trying to get the kid to be quiet.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah, that doesn't work.
Bobby Bones
They also didn't speak English, so they were, like, yelling words at the baby in a foreign language.
Eddie
Because you could have helped maybe, if you knew what they were saying or what. Maybe, like, what does it have? What's the context of that one?
Bobby Bones
I was also kind of worried that, you know, they were going to harm the baby or something, you know, how.
Unknown Speaker 2
So it must have been loud for you to be on the other side of the room in your bed, and you. You're able to, like, pick up all this.
Bobby Bones
I honestly, I thought it was in the hallway, and I thought, like, people were making a commotion, like, about to fight outside.
Eddie
It was loud.
Bobby Bones
It was so loud, and it was so frantic.
Eddie
It sucks for the parents, though, right? Because they don't want the baby to grow. Sex with the baby, of course. Sucks for Reed.
Unknown Speaker 2
When it's funny you say, like, did you knock on the door? Like, what are you going to do? Like, you. There's really nothing you can do in this scenario.
Eddie
Put in AirPods.
Bobby Bones
I did. I put in AirPods for about an hour and then got freaked out because I was so isolated. I thought I was gonna miss my alarm, so I took them out.
Eddie
Huh.
Bobby Bones
Like, with my AirPods.
Eddie
I sleep with AirPods in sometimes, and.
Bobby Bones
You can still hear your alarm.
Eddie
It always fall out.
Unknown Speaker 2
Does the alarm. Does the alarm go off in the AirPods?
Eddie
Great question. I have no idea. We should test this because I put. Well, I put one in. That's sleep with one end sometimes. My wife has no problem with me playing a podcast under my pillow out loud. Doesn't bother me with the phone out.
Unknown Speaker 2
No pods. Yeah.
Eddie
Doesn't bother her because I used to be. Let's watch TV until I fall asleep and leave it on all night.
Unknown Speaker 2
So it's a win.
Eddie
Yeah, it's a big win compared to that. So she doesn't really mind it at all. But sometimes if she's already asleep, I don't want to come in and, like, turn it on because I think it'll wake her up, as opposed to her falling asleep with it on. And so I'll sleep with one AirPod in on my left side because I sleep on my right side for the most part, until I go to my back, but it always falls out in the middle of the night, so then my alarm will go off. But to be fair, my alarm never wakes me up. Maybe once a month because I wake up two hours before my alarm, like, nervous that I'm gonna oversleep every single day of my life.
Bobby Bones
See, Eddie was saying, too, that, like, because the time zone here, he wasn't even worried about his alarm.
Unknown Speaker 2
In California, I wake up, like, you know, regard no alarm. I'll wake up, eyes open, 6am That's.
Eddie
A good point, because we're two hours back where were.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
And it's such a quick trip. Yeah. So it's not been the easiest trip for Reed. He did say, though, that he saw the Kobe Bryant statue today.
Unknown Speaker 2
We went.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it was cool. Really cool.
Unknown Speaker 2
It's really cool, man. Like, I. That's pretty new, right? Like, I don't know when they threw that one up a couple years ago.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's definitely newer than the rest.
Unknown Speaker 2
So it's pretty cool. And then there's a shack one that's really cool, too. Donkey.
Eddie
Like, double arm, double hand, double hand. He's like, his wings up.
Luke Loucks
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 2
He's got his tongue sticking out.
Eddie
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 2
And that one's, like, further back, closer to, like, just the. It's over. Like, the entrance just connected to the building. Yeah, it's connected to the building, which is, like, really cool. That one's cool. And the Jerry West, Magic Johnson, which was funny to see Reed out there because he's just like, who's that? Like, that's Cream Abdul Jabbar Reed.
Bobby Bones
I didn't. You could. Some of those people, you can't really tell. You know, you could tell because of.
Eddie
The statue, but you're not a big sports guy. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
No, I wouldn't know.
Unknown Speaker 2
Then he goes to the hockey player. Who's that?
Bobby Bones
I knew it was Wayne Gretzky.
Unknown Speaker 2
Gretzky. Yeah. We had a little lesson while we were out there.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I was like your little. Your little child.
Unknown Speaker 2
And Jerry. Jerry west, though, he knew. He's like, a logo man.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
I didn't know that was the statue of him doing the logo pose. Kind. I mean, it's not really a pose, but kind of.
Unknown Speaker 2
I don't know if it's the exact same one, but it's all. It's just his, you know, his iconic move of. He's, like, just going for charging for a layup or something on, like, whatever that logo thing is.
Eddie
If I did look to see the Dodgers do play tonight.
Unknown Speaker 2
The Lakers.
Eddie
The Lakers play tonight, too, Man. I don't know if I can do it. It's so late.
Unknown Speaker 2
It. Oh, what time do they play? I have to hear seven, right?
Luke Loucks
Yeah.
Eddie
But by the time you get back. It's 10 or 11, which is like 1:00 our time. And then I got to get back. Not you. I mean, you guys do it.
Unknown Speaker 2
I told Reed as I looked up tickets and, like, back up against the wall, the very last row in the arena. It's like a 150 bucks.
Eddie
I don't know who's been paying for Ubers or food when I'm not around. So I sent both of you guys 100 bucks.
Unknown Speaker 2
You did?
Eddie
Yeah. To your Venmo. So you can always go.
Unknown Speaker 2
Thank you, man.
Eddie
If you want to. No, I'm just.
Unknown Speaker 2
We use that.
Eddie
I'm just saying you could use that because I don't know who's been paid.
Unknown Speaker 2
The Dodgers are playing tonight, too.
Eddie
He said, yeah. And that apparently is a nightmare to get out of. Oh, geez, LA is. It's hard for me because I get car sick and I hate traffic. I'm not from here. I don't like it. So anytime that it's a difficult car situation, I like it. So I choose to not go Sunday night. I wouldn't mind it. I think we could have gone to a game Sunday night. Yeah, but if you guys want to go, go. I'll just go to dinner with our buddy myself.
Unknown Speaker 2
Honestly, this whole trip has been like, reed, what do you want to do? Because Reed, like, Reed says he's only been to LA once. You know, like, we've been here a lot, and like, Reed's like, I want to go to Venice Beach. So we.
Eddie
Yeah, you guys went to Muscle beach, right? That's. That's beach.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yes.
Bobby Bones
So cool, dude. It's like the great. It's like a movie set out there. People rollerblading.
Unknown Speaker 2
This whole town is a movie set.
Eddie
And in this town, there are lots of movie sets.
Bobby Bones
That is very true.
Unknown Speaker 2
That's it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's very true.
Unknown Speaker 2
What's funny is Reed, I guess since he was a little boy, he said he's wanted to go to Venice beach to see the skate park. Like, there's. Because at Venice beach, it's got the beach, of course. But then you have the muscle part, where it's like a. Just a big open workout area. And then there are roller skaters, there are skateboarders, and there. There's like, just. Just a bowl, like, big swimming pool. Like bulls everywhere, so skaters are doing tricks. And Reed's like, I've always wanted to come here. And he spent about 30 minutes trying to find someone to ask if he can borrow their board so he can drop in.
Bobby Bones
I didn't do it, though. I would have dropped in. No doubt. I would have dropped in.
Unknown Speaker 2
He was on a mission.
Eddie
Why didn't you go buy a board? A cheap board?
Bobby Bones
That's a good question.
Unknown Speaker 2
I told you that I could have.
Eddie
That have been a place that it'd be worth it to do it. And you could have taken it back easily tomorrow.
Bobby Bones
Dang.
Unknown Speaker 2
Return the board.
Eddie
No. Taking the board back. Yeah. Well, yeah, think about that. Because it's not like you have to check it or anything.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Crap.
Eddie
Sorry, buddy.
Bobby Bones
Man. But no, I mean, that's. Dude, that skate park is, like, iconic. If you, like, grew up skating, you knew that. Skate park.
Eddie
Yeah, I didn't grow up skating.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah, the whole place is pretty iconic. Like, you walk out there and you're like, oh, I've seen this in a movie.
Eddie
Oh, that area.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
Didn't you say they filmed White Men can't Jump out There too?
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah, the. The. They have, like, the basketball court area. There's probably, I don't know, 10 hoops.
Bobby Bones
Mm.
Unknown Speaker 2
And we looked it up. That's exactly where they filmed it.
Eddie
Okay, well, we are gonna leave this part. We're gonna put this part in the episode. And that's all I got nothing else. I'm not even sure what we came on. Why do we come on?
Unknown Speaker 2
Because we're in la.
Eddie
No, I feel like we had a purpose. Yeah, I think the purpose was what?
Bobby Bones
I don't know.
Unknown Speaker 2
Talk more about Reed.
Bobby Bones
Is that what it was?
Eddie
Oh, maybe it was. Yeah. We had the podcast equipment up.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. Maybe that's where it was.
Eddie
And then also say Reed lost his phone in la.
Bobby Bones
Yep.
Eddie
And then also that Reed.
Bobby Bones
Hey, Shout out lj. Dude, that's the guy met at the skate park. Dreads. He was a low. He thought I was a local.
Unknown Speaker 2
Like, have you done this in California? Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
I mean, he was asking where I was from and stuff like that, and. And he was like, you ever go to this one spot over here? I was like, oh, no, man. This is my first time out here. And he was like, oh, you ever try that California weed? And he hands me his blunt.
Eddie
I was like, he handles me.
Bobby Bones
I'm good, man. I appreciate it, though.
Eddie
Wow.
Bobby Bones
Right there, dude.
Unknown Speaker 2
I just let them have their moment, man.
Eddie
I feel like we should do at least one sports thing while we're here since this is a sports show.
Unknown Speaker 2
Fair enough.
Bobby Bones
Fair enough.
Eddie
Should they ban the tush push? They're talking about it now in league meetings. Eddie.
Unknown Speaker 2
Your argument you made is pretty valid as far as just, like, entertainment Value and making it dramatic. And that doesn't make it dramatic.
Eddie
And I think there should be limited tush pushes.
Unknown Speaker 2
I know.
Eddie
I don't think they should eliminate it. The people that are upset about it, people that can't do it. But I think you only get X amount a game.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh, man. I say just let it. Let it play the way it is. I like it. I like that. Only Philadelphia is the one that can do it 100%.
Eddie
They are having league meetings now and that was one of the topics that they're discussing. I don't think it'll be eliminated this year. I think that it probably will eventually be eliminated or they won't because they don't want the Eagles to feel attacked. They probably will not say no more tush push. They'll probably say no more and they'll do it role league wide. No more grabbing another player and pulling them or pushing them forward. Because that could also be like grabbing somebody that's behind you, pulling them into the end zone. Yeah, right. Like, I think they'll just reevaluate that definition.
Unknown Speaker 2
And if they do do the verb, do they do the words like that? I think that would be good. That'd be okay. But that is. But that is banning the tush push.
Eddie
It is kind of boring to watch tush push, though, when.
Unknown Speaker 2
I know, dude.
Eddie
Philly.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yes.
Eddie
I also. Yes. I also don't think you should be penalized, though, if you think of something within the rules, because it was genius. They had the right. They still have the right personnel to do it. You can't do that without a quarterback like Jalen Hurts, who scared super strong.
Unknown Speaker 2
Not doing the touch push. Correct.
Eddie
And other people have tried. I mean, the Bills kind of tried with Josh Allen, playoffs, Patrick Mahomes. They don't do it at all because he got hurt doing quarterback sneaks. So. Okay, there's our one sports thing in this segment. Reed, what would you like to say?
Bobby Bones
I just want to say how many touch pushes do you think should be allowed in a game?
Unknown Speaker 2
1.
Bobby Bones
Just one per team.
Unknown Speaker 2
Right.
Eddie
I would say this is one half. I would allow one and a half.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh, one and a half.
Eddie
Or I think there could be part of the rule to where if you're inside the three yard line, you could get two and a half fits within the same series. But I think just for fourth downs on like the 38 yard line.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
And then a fourth down again on the. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 2
Which is what they do.
Eddie
That just gets to be boring. Yeah, I think. Yeah, that would be how I would Probably.
Bobby Bones
I think everything should be legal, dude. I think illegal. No, legal.
Eddie
Everything. Like pds, all of it. No, I'm like, in one player gets spikes in their shoulder pads, it turns into. What's the Mel Gibson movie from back in the day?
Unknown Speaker 2
Mad Max.
Eddie
Mad Max.
Bobby Bones
Those pads? No. Like, you know how in Madden, like, at least when I used to play, you could like, take your whole team and push them to the left with just, like, one dude running behind? Like, I think that should. I mean, I think you should do that.
Eddie
I don't even understand how that would happen in real life, though.
Bobby Bones
Really. I mean, I just say everybody go left, and then.
Unknown Speaker 2
And then you follow. Like the flying bee.
Eddie
Like. Oh, like the student body. Like that used to be the play. Like, student body left. It was everybody. Everyone.
Unknown Speaker 2
And you just run behind everyone.
Eddie
Yeah, it was like old college football.
Bobby Bones
Oh, really? Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah. Wishbone. Kind of what happens.
Unknown Speaker 2
You're right. If you can execute it. Hey, man.
Eddie
Within the rules.
Unknown Speaker 2
Within the rules.
Luke Loucks
Let it rip.
Jen Swan
Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her.
Unknown Speaker 4
And I was like, what? Like, it was him. I was like, oh, my God. It was shocking. It was very shocking.
Jen Swan
I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles, and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that follow.
Unknown Speaker 2
I started investing my time to get her justice.
Eddie
They put out something on social media, so I'd get called in the middle of the night all the time.
Unknown Speaker 4
It's like, how do you think you're gonna get away with something like this? Like, you kill somebody.
Jen Swan
It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turned to social media to help track down their friend's killer. This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to my friend daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
AJ Jacobs
Hey, y'all, it's your girl, Cheekies. And I'm back with a brand new season of your favorite podcast, Cheekies and Chill. I'll be sharing even more personal stories with you guys. And I know a lot of people are gonna attack me. Why are you gonna go visit your dad? Your mom wouldn't be okay with it. I'm gonna tell you guys right now. I know my mother and I know my mom had a very forgiving heart. That is my story on plastic surgery. This is my truth. I think the last time I cried like, that was When I lost my mom like that, like, yelling, I was like, no. I was like, oh. And I thought, what did I do wrong? And as always, you'll get my exclusive take on topics like love, personal growth, health, family ties and more. And don't forget, I'll also be dishing out my best advice to you on episodes of Dear Cheek. Peace.
Eddie
So my fiance and I have been together for 10 years. In the first two years of being together, I find out he is cheating on me, not only with women, but also with men. What should I do?
AJ Jacobs
Okay, where do I start? That's not love. He doesn't love you enough. Because if he loved you, he'd be faithful. It's going to be an exciting year and I hope that you can join me, listen to Cheekies and Chill Season four as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Eddie
On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No blood belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player on that tape were 10. Vile. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Grotesque. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept. Rest now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I did want to follow up on a story. I said that I was going to tell an accent story because I was talking about being in Germany and I referenced it's fine line and another country, even here on a microphone here in.
Unknown Speaker 2
Where are you going with this?
Eddie
Well, I gotta be careful. I don't want to get canceled, basically. Okay. And I don't think I'm going to. But what will happen is I'll use Germany as an example. Everybody speaks English, basically, when you travel through Europe.
Unknown Speaker 2
Okay.
Eddie
And it's not like I'm Mr. World Traveler only the last few years I've been doing stuff like this. It's kind of crazy. And my wife gets a bit irritated at me when we're in these other countries when they speak English and I speak English, but yet I still try to meet them in the middle.
Unknown Speaker 2
You try to speak their broken English, kind of.
Eddie
So obviously they have an accent, but they do speak English. And sometimes not the best. Sometimes verbs are in weird places. Can you do a German accent at all?
Unknown Speaker 2
Ooh like a German speaking English.
Eddie
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yes. Why?
Eddie
Yeah, just go with that, though. Just go with that. Someone ask me. Ask me. And this is. I swear to you, this is what I do when I'm in places. And I'm not doing it to be funny. I'm doing it because I tell my wife I'm meeting them in the middle. Because if they speak in this accent and they're speaking English, this is how they know it and hear it.
Unknown Speaker 2
Right? That's their English.
Eddie
Yes. So this is gonna be. We're doing improv. You're working at a hotel.
Unknown Speaker 2
I'm a German.
Eddie
German. You're a German at a hotel. I'm rolling in with bags.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh, okay.
Eddie
And I'll go first. Hey, we're here to check in.
Unknown Speaker 2
What do you want me to say?
Eddie
I didn't matter. You're working the desk.
Bobby Bones
Improv.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh, is this all the bags you have?
Eddie
Yes, these bags that I have here are the bags. And you can leave them here, or we can take them with us.
Unknown Speaker 2
Have you already checked in?
Eddie
No, have. Have not checked in. Donk.
Unknown Speaker 2
This is bad.
Eddie
This is what you were doing.
Unknown Speaker 2
This is bad.
Eddie
Is it because I don't speak English, man?
Bobby Bones
Eddie's Russian, by the way.
Eddie
I was like, dude, no, that's not the point of it. That's not the point of it.
Unknown Speaker 2
I tried my best.
Eddie
The point of it is, Eddie, if I were speaking Spanish, but I don't have the accent and I know Spanish, I would like. I was like, hola, como. And you talked back to me in, like, an American accented Spanish, it would help me know that because that's how I talk in it.
Unknown Speaker 2
But. But why are you struggling with words that, you know? You're like, how do I say, like, you speak English, dude, Just say it.
Eddie
It's kind of why it pisses my wife off that I do it. Okay, okay. But I don't do it.
Unknown Speaker 2
How do you say, I know.
Eddie
But I did. I did say, like, I think it's. It's. It's a donk. Danka donka. Thank you. Yeah, I did say that in that. But part of it. I'm like, the back can go to the room, donkey. But I do all my English in their accent.
Unknown Speaker 2
Interesting. I mean, that's kind. That's kind of you.
Eddie
I feel like I'm trying, like, I'm leaning in to make it easier for them, because they've leaned in to make it easier for me.
Unknown Speaker 2
Right.
Eddie
I don't feel like I'm doing. Now, I will say this and I don't like this, and this does not make me a good or bad person. And I don't do it on purpose. But I also do it at Chinese restaurants in America.
Unknown Speaker 2
I know here that's different.
Eddie
I don't mean to, but it's just natural that if someone comes up, I'm not gonna do the Chinese accent. That one will get me canceled. South park over here. But let's just say I'll do Mickey Mouse. But imagine if Mickey Mouse were actually someone at a Chinese restaurant speaking in a Chinese accent, but speaking in English. Okay. They were like, hello, would you like some sweet and sour soup? And if you would, thank you for coming to the restaurant. And would you also like. With your food, would you like some beef and broccoli? And then I answer back, yes, I would like some. But I'm only doing it because I feel like they know because obviously they don't have a full grasp of the accent. So I'm trying to meet them at their accent.
Unknown Speaker 2
You don't think they understand you if you spoke regular English, though?
Eddie
I think. And here's the reason. My answer is no. When I lived in Texas, my friend group and Eddie can speak to this. I was the minority.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh, we were all Mexican.
Eddie
Everybody was Mexican or black, but me and all the Mexicans that were my friends are Hispanics, but they even call themselves Mexicans. I.
Unknown Speaker 2
We're Hispanics. But, like, we're.
Eddie
And I would say that.
Unknown Speaker 2
So we just say Mexicans.
Eddie
They'd be like, stop calling us Hispanic. I'd be like, why don't we cancel? Like, well, what are we gonna do? Cancel you. We're your friends. Good point. And they'd be like, just, we're just Mexicans.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
And so when you guys would speak Spanish fast with the Spanish accent from Mexico, really struggled. If you spoke it a little slower and not as accented, I could understand it so much better.
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah. So you're saying that if you spoke English regular like this, like, we're talking.
Eddie
Real fast, they wouldn't catch.
Unknown Speaker 2
My bags are here. I can go front, down desk. And they're like.
Eddie
And if I'm using, like, slang, I'm like, chill. That's lit, right?
Unknown Speaker 2
Yeah.
Eddie
Even if I talk fast naturally as a human, anyway, if I'm talking to them like this here. But instead I'm like. They give me bags up to the room.
Unknown Speaker 2
But you could say, like, to that point, you could say, hi, I'm here to check in.
Bob Pittman
Yeah.
Eddie
But then I feel like you're talking to them like their Child. Yes. And I felt like that, too. Like, I'm talking down to them, like, and I'm just. I'm already appreciative they've learned English. And so do you think any of.
Unknown Speaker 2
Them were like, where's this dude from? Like, I can't. He's not American.
Eddie
Well, I think they thought I was a vampire in Germany because my accent back sounded much, much more Transylvanian than German. I mean, to put on my bag.
Unknown Speaker 2
I want to suck your.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Oh, my God.
Eddie
So all I'm saying is, I don't. I felt like I was doing the right thing. It annoyed my wife, where she would be like, please stop doing that.
Unknown Speaker 2
How would she talk to.
Eddie
I'm like a normal human. And then even at restaurants, like, don't do that. Don't do that. Because I don't mean to do that at Chinese restaurants. It's just my heart is so big.
Unknown Speaker 2
It is, man.
Eddie
Thank you. That's all I wanted to say. All right, theme song out. Theme song out. We're done. Thank you. You guys have a great rest of the day.
Unknown Speaker 2
You too, man.
Eddie
If I'm a bad person, I. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be.
Unknown Speaker 2
No, you're kind. You did it for them.
Eddie
Your heart's in it.
Bobby Bones
Like, you have the right mindset.
Eddie
I misunderstood.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Eddie
That's what it is. Thank you, and thanks again to coach, and we will see you guys later on this week. All right, Eddie, blow the whistle. All right, we're out, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon RayMusic. You can follow the show on Instagram @bobbybonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host producer Eddy, segment producer at Kickoff, Kevin, video producer at Reed Yarberry, and executive producer Ike Distro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.
Bobby Bones
Dressing. Dressing.
Eddie
French dressing.
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
Eddie
That's good.
Bobby Bones
I'm A.J. jacobs, and. And my current obsession is puzzles, and that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler.
Unknown Speaker 2
Something about Mary Poppins?
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
Unknown Speaker 2
This is fun.
Bobby Bones
You can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Bob Pittman
Hi, I'm Bob Pippman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin, legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel.
Eddie
Being a rock star is very fun.
AJ Jacobs
But helping people is way more fun.
Bob Pittman
And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing.
Bobby Bones
I figured out the formula.
Eddie
I just have to work hard.
Bobby Bones
Then that's magic.
Bob Pittman
Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and Magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Eddie
I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is Fighting Words.
Unknown Speaker 2
Okay, I'll put the hammer back.
Eddie
Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. Part of the power of black queer.
Unknown Speaker 2
Creativity is the fact that we got us.
Eddie
You know, we are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to fighting words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show
Episode: 25W: This Episode May Get Bobby Canceled + New FSU HC Luke Loucks on Getting His Dream Job + Reid Has a Major Life & Career Announcement
Release Date: April 1, 2025
Timestamp: [04:40] – [15:00]
In this heartfelt segment, Bobby Bones shares significant personal news about one of his longstanding team members, Reed. The announcement reveals that Reed is engaged and preparing to move to St. Louis with his fiancée, marking the end of his tenure on the show.
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Timestamp: [19:15] – [42:16]
The episode features an in-depth interview with Luke Loucks, the newly appointed head coach of Florida State University's men's basketball team. Loucks discusses his journey to obtaining his dream job, his coaching philosophy, and his vision for FSU basketball.
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Timestamp: [28:45] – [30:14]
The conversation shifts to the evolving landscape of college athletics, particularly focusing on Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) and the role of boosters. Eddie, acting as a semi-significant booster from the University of Arkansas, poses questions about maintaining relationships and navigating these new dynamics.
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Timestamp: [30:14] – [37:20]
Loucks delves into his coaching strategies, drawing from his NBA experience to introduce a data-driven, efficient style of play at FSU. He contrasts his approach with traditional college basketball methods, emphasizing a faster pace, more three-point shooting, and better offensive rebounds.
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Timestamp: [37:20] – [42:16]
Towards the end of the interview, Loucks shares personal anecdotes about his emotional return to FSU, the support from his family, and his aspirations beyond coaching.
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Timestamp: [15:00] – [73:38]
Throughout the episode, Bobby and Eddie engage in light-hearted conversations about their trip to Los Angeles, including humorous mishaps like losing Reed's phone and navigating airport hotels. These segments provide a personal touch, showcasing the camaraderie and relatable experiences of the hosts.
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Timestamp: [73:07] – [74:42]
The episode concludes with the hosts wrapping up their discussions, thanking their crew, and promoting upcoming content. They also engage in a brief comedic improvisation segment, showcasing their chemistry and playful interactions.
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Episode 25W of The Bobby Bones Show is a multifaceted episode that balances significant personal announcements with an insightful interview featuring Florida State's new head basketball coach, Luke Loucks. The episode delves deep into coaching philosophies, the evolving landscape of college athletics, and the importance of building a strong team culture. Interspersed with light-hearted banter and travel anecdotes, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive and engaging experience, ensuring both informative content and relatable entertainment.
Note: All timestamps referenced correspond to the provided transcript and are for illustrative purposes to highlight key moments within the episode.