25W: Walking in on Eric Church Mid-Massage with Joe Vardon + What Matthew McConaughey is Really Like + Is this 9x9x9 Challenge Actually Doable? + Why Kickoff Kevin Misses the Old Tom Brady

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show / 25 Whistles – Episode: "Walking in on Eric Church Mid-Massage with Joe Vardon + What Matthew McConaughey is Really Like + Is this 9x9x9 Challenge Actually Doable? + Why Kickoff Kevin Misses the Old Tom Brady"

Air Date: May 18, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones
Special Guest: Joe Vardon (The Athletic)

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Bobby Bones and the 25 Whistles crew blend sports talk, funny anecdotes, and cultural commentary, joined by NBA senior writer Joe Vardon. The team covers memorable moments from recent MMA and golf events, dives into the real personality of Matthew McConaughey, breaks down the infamous 9x9x9 sports challenge, and reflects on Tom Brady's evolving public persona. The highlight is an in-depth NBA discussion with Joe Vardon, including a hilarious Eric Church story.

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Main Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. Origin of 25 Whistles (02:08–03:33)

• Show Naming Story: The “25 Whistles” originally came from a 25-episode deal; years later they’ve far surpassed this.
• Show Traditions: Gold whistles were gifted after season one ("Those are like 400 bucks each." – Bobby Bones, 03:25).
• Quirky Side-Note: Eddie’s 7-year-old found and played with his gold whistle.

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2. Fighting & MMA Review (03:33–08:04)

• Netflix MMA Event Letdown: The crew critiques a recently televised fight night, focusing on the lackluster Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano and Nate Diaz matches.
  • "Those Netflix fights were awful." – Bobby Bones (03:33)
  • Eddie, an MMA fan, says: "I got suckered into it. I don’t even know why I watched it." (03:47)
• Fighter Payout Chat: Discussion about guaranteed payouts vs. win-based pay structures.
• Controversy: Rumors online suggested fixed fights; the group debates the “17-second armbar” by Rousey.
  • "If it were rigged, no chance that ends in 17 seconds." – Bobby Bones (06:45)
• General Consensus: All agree the event was underwhelming, but acknowledge stars can still generate viewer interest.

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3. Wild College Softball Comeback (08:11–10:08)

• Texas Tech's Shocking Win: Detailed retell of Texas Tech’s historic comeback against Ole Miss, overturning an 8-0 deficit with two outs in the last inning.
  • "Teams were 0 and 640 when trailing by 8 plus runs… it's now 1 in 640." – Bobby Bones (09:00)
• Statistical Rarity: Emphasis on just how improbable the comeback was.

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4. What’s Matthew McConaughey Really Like? (10:08–15:27)

• The Real McConaughey: Stories from Bobby, Eddie, and Mike about meeting McConaughey.
  • "Odd dude, right?" – Bobby Bones (10:18)
  • "He didn't smell very good...but he was nice." – Bobby Bones (13:20)
• Fame & "Mateo" Persona: Discussion of McConaughey’s retreat to Peru to escape fame, including living as “Mateo” for 22 days.
  • "All based off the man they met named Mateo, who had nothing to do with the celebrity." – Bobby Bones (11:38)
• Book Talk: Eddie admits McConaughey's memoir is the only book his mother-in-law gifted him that he’s finished.
• Celebrity Anecdotes: Eddie recalls being denied a photo with McConaughey at a concert – "Not right now, buddy man. Not right now." (13:53)
• Assessment: The group finds McConaughey authentic but eccentric, staying true to his public persona.

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5. Golf, Private Clubs, and the Social Side of Sports (18:05–24:57)

• Golfing with Friends & Family: Bobby and Eddie reminisce about golf tournaments and discuss upcoming events.
• Exclusive Clubs Explained: Bobby details steep entry fees, monthly dues, and amenities at elite golf clubs.
  • "Mine’s nothing like this, but I had to pay like 50 grand...then we have to pay like $2,500 a month." – Bobby Bones (21:44)
  • Discussion of Troubadour and other ultra-exclusive clubs where membership requires home ownership.
• Lifestyle Reflection: The team discusses if they would enjoy the social aspects of club life.

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6. The New "No-Name" Golf Champions? (27:24–29:53)

• Unknown Winners: Bobby and Eddie react to Aaron Rai’s PGA win, noting his unique two-gloves style.
  • "When someone that nobody knows is winning, where do they get all those stories from?" – Eddie (28:33)
• Media's Role: The team speculates on how networks build stories around lesser-known athletes mid-tournament.
• Underdog vs. Superstar: Reflections on underdog victories vs. established stars from a fan and network perspective.

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7. NBA MVP Trends & International Players (30:07–33:00)

• Rise of the Foreign MVPs: Discussion about the lack of American MVPs in recent years; the latest top four MVP vote-getters are all international.
• Sporting Impact: Quick analogy comparing small market teams winning championships to the current golf discussions.

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8. Rory McIlroy & Fan Ejections (31:37–32:56)

• Player–Fan Relations: Bobby notes Rory McIlroy having a fan ejected for yelling "USA" (31:42).
  • "He swings and the guy goes, USA. Nori goes, get him out of here." – Bobby Bones (31:45)
• Comparison to Other Sports: Eddie observes an uptick in players demanding unruly fans be removed.

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9. NBA Deep Dive with Joe Vardon (35:59–57:18)

LeBron's Future & Cleveland Legacy (36:27–43:20)

• LeBron’s Next Steps: Joe Vardon discusses contract reality, the likelihood of pay cuts, and the intangible legacy question.
  • "He is not going to get anywhere near that from any team, including the Lakers." – Joe Vardon (36:57)
• Storybook Ending Scenario: Speculation that LeBron could take a minimum salary to return to Cleveland and chase one last championship.
  • "That could be worth it to him [for a legacy moment]." – Joe Vardon (40:11)

Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland Community (41:17–45:33)

• Gilbert’s Local Impact: Owner Dan Gilbert is appreciated in Cleveland for facilitating fan buses, investing in community, and his willingness to spend.
  • "He is the only living owner to win a major professional sports title in Cleveland, period." – Joe Vardon (41:57)

Detroit Pistons and Playoff Readiness (45:33–48:02)

• Team Analysis: Detroit has transformed from one of the league's worst to top seeds, but still lacks playoff scoring punch beyond Cade Cunningham.

Conference Playoff Series Outlook (48:02–49:46)

• Series Edge Commentary: Joe predicts Cleveland’s freshness from recent games will give them an early win over a rusty Knicks team.

All-Time Hype vs. Achievement – LeBron’s Place (49:46–52:41)

• Living Up to Hype: LeBron is praised as the most hyped athlete to completely fulfill his promise.
  • "It’s not even close." – Joe Vardon (50:14)
  • Discusses other candidates (Tiger Woods, Caitlin Clark, Mike Trout), but asserts no one matches LeBron’s trajectory.

Giannis Antetokounmpo & Milwaukee’s Dilemma (53:01–54:53)

• Trade Rumors: Vardon recommends the Bucks trade Giannis, citing internal drama and diminishing returns.
  • "The way he carried himself this year was a disappointment." – Joe Vardon (53:06)

Memorable Eric Church Massage Story (55:10–57:12)

• Hilarious NBA Anecdote: Joe shares the story of accidentally walking in on country star Eric Church in a towel, mid-massage, in the Nuggets’ media room.
  • "Eric Church was in there half naked...getting a rub down in the Denver Nuggets media room. And I walked right in on it." – Joe Vardon (56:37)
  • "You saw him in a way I never have." – Bobby Bones (57:09)

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10. Viral Sports Challenge: The 9x9x9x9x… Challenge (59:53–63:18)

• Challenge Overview: Originates from baseball—eat nine hot dogs, drink nine beers over nine innings. A football league expanded it into running nine miles, playing nine holes of golf, nine donuts, nine espresso shots, nine nicotine pouches, nine ski runs, nine hot dogs, nine beers, all capped off with nine innings at a Red Sox game, all within a single day.
  • "There's time to do this. You gotta focus up. There's time to do this." – Bobby Bones (63:18)
• General Reaction: Crew agrees it sounds nearly impossible and extremely unpleasant.

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11. Tom Brady’s Reinvention: Missing the Old G.O.A.T. (63:27–65:37)

• Brady on the Runway: Discussion of Tom Brady’s fashion model turn post-retirement, debate about whether he’s tarnished his “quiet champion” image.
  • "Now he is the loud, luxurious dating influencers model...it’s weird." – Bobby Bones (64:38)
  • Kickoff Kevin: “I totally agree. I miss the old Tom Brady.” (65:35)
• Divorce & Image Change: Crew attributes his new lifestyle to divorce and post-football freedom, with a mix of nostalgia and understanding.

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Notable Quotes

• On McConaughey:
  "He is exactly what he is, which isn’t always the case... but sometimes I roll my eyes at him." – Bobby Bones (10:37)

• On the MMA Event:
  "If you’re going to rig something, you at least want it to look like it’s not rigged." – Bobby Bones (06:45)

• On LeBron’s Legacy:
  "He’s the most hyped and lived up to the hype athlete I've ever seen." – Bobby Bones (49:46)
  "Yeah, it’s not even close." – Joe Vardon (50:14)

• On Private Golf Clubs:
  "I had to pay like 50 grand...then we have to pay like $2,500 a month. And if you bring a guest, that's a fee every time." – Bobby Bones (21:44)

• On Tom Brady's Image:
  "I miss the old Tom Brady...Now he is the loud luxurious dating influencers model." – Mike & Bobby Bones (65:35, 64:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Show Origin Story: 02:08–03:33
• Netflix/MMA Fights Recap: 03:33–08:04
• Texas Tech Softball Comeback: 08:11–10:08
• Matthew McConaughey Discussion: 10:08–15:27
• Golf Club Economics & Culture: 18:05–24:57
• Golf "No-Name" Winners: 27:24–29:53
• NBA MVP & Playoff Talking Points: 30:07–33:00
• Rory McIlroy/Fan Ejection: 31:37–32:56
• Joe Vardon Interview (NBA, LeBron, Eric Church Story): 35:59–57:18
• 9x9x9 Challenge Analysis: 59:53–63:18
• Tom Brady: Changing Image: 63:27–65:37

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Conclusion

This episode expertly balances irreverent sports banter, genuine nostalgia, and fascinating insider interviews, making it a must-listen for fans of sports, pop culture, and the stories behind the headlines. With plenty of laughs and insightful commentary—plus the unique Eric Church-in-a-towel tale—Bobby and team deliver an episode that feels both fresh and familiar.

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Transcript

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[Eddie]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

Talking football and they all wear a whistle yet stupid. But why did you expect. It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles, everybody. Welcome to the show. Mike, hit that whistle. Here we are, episode 1013. We stopped counting episodes. For those that don't know, this whole show started because I agreed to do 25 episodes. That's it.

[Eddie]

That's why it's called 25 Whistles. Literally.

[Bobby Bones]

Sometimes I forget to like, reset that because it's so normal to us. But whenever. Years ago, when DraftKings first started, they said, hey, will you do a three times a week show? I don't think I have the capacity for that. Well, will you do 50 shows? I don't. I'll do 25. And then obviously now we're at like 1 million.

[Eddie]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So that's why it's called 25 Whistles. I'm glad everybody's here. Whistles blown. And that's why it's a whistle. Because we would start the show.

[Eddie]

Yeah, everybody had a whistle.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we used to wear them the whole time.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mike]

First season.

[Eddie]

Speaking of the gold whistle that you guys got, that you got us. No, no, no. I saw. I heard a whistle in my house yesterday, and I was like, oh, it's cool. They found a whistle.

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[Eddie]

Somebody had found my gold whistle, which was in my office in its case. My little 7 year old found it and they were like, playing with it. He's like, can we use it for our game? Like, no, put it back.

[Bobby Bones]

After our first season, I got everybody gold whistles. Yeah. Those are like 400 bucks each.

[Eddie]

I know. And I'm like, put that back in the box.

[Mike]

They're legit.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. A couple things. One, those Netflix fights were awful.

[Eddie]

So bad, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm not a UFC guy, or I should say MMA guy. I'm very much a casual MMA guy. But you're like the guy.

[Eddie]

I love ufc. I love mma, Bare knuckle fighting, all of it, dude. This one, I got suckered into it. I don't even know why I watched it.

[Bobby Bones]

It was free, though.

[Eddie]

I get it. But there was also a UFC fight night going on, on whatever. Paramount, whatever it's on. And so I watched all of that and I was like, okay, it's perfect timing. It's gonna. By the time that one ends, it's gonna be time for the Nate Diaz fight. And it was perfect timing to watch Nate Diaz just get his butt kicked.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw him made half a million dollars because they released how much money everybody made from the fights. I think he was the third highest paid. I think it was Rousey Carano. I think Nate Diaz was third.

[Eddie]

So no matter what happens, he gets paid that money.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but boxers are like that too.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but that's not ufc.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not sure how UFC works. Again, I'm such a casual.

[Eddie]

UFC is a win basis. Like, you get paid on how much you get paid is based on if you win or not. Plus you get bonuses for knockouts but

[Bobby Bones]

that's only for, like, the mid card guys. Right. Like, I think the guys or girls that are in the main events are getting a set amount. Plus, if you can negotiate it, you also get when it was pay per view time, like a percentage of the pay per view.

[Eddie]

Interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think those people are fighting for less than a guaranteed X millions of dollars.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But I can understand some of the mid and low tier guys with that being the case.

[Eddie]

And what's the whole exclusivity to ufc, though? Like, Nate Diaz maybe is done with the ufc, so is his contract free now he can do something like this? Because I don't know what league this was. At the end under mvp, it was Jake Paul.

[Mike]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

It was his promotion.

[Eddie]

So these guys can just fight now. Like, Nate Diaz isn't part of UFC anymore.

[Bobby Bones]

He wouldn't be able to fight for MVP if he was ufc.

[Eddie]

But then some of these refs, they're UFC refs. Maybe they're universal refs, I don't know. But it was. It's weird to me to see, like, all these different, like, PFL is a different MMA league, UFC different MMA league, now mvp. It's funny to see, like, everybody that's intertwined in all these, some of the same refs.

[Bobby Bones]

If you're a fighter, UFC is the organization that, if you're contractually obligated to, you can't fight outside of it.

[Eddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not sure if the union, the referee union. I don't know the rules.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But, yeah, I don't know, dude. I just thought it's gonna suck, dude.

[Eddie]

Nate Diaz, I feel like that was just a paycheck.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he felt like it was just a paycheck.

[Eddie]

I don't think he was ready for that fight. I don't think he prepared for that fight. Domination, though. And what sucks about him, though, is that even if he does fight a good fight, he looks like he loses every time because his face bleeds because of all this scar tissue that he has from fighting for so long. That one good punch just makes his face look like he got his butt kicked.

[Bobby Bones]

For me, the main event was the Ronda Rousey Gina Carano fight. And she hadn't fought in a decade or maybe 17 years.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And Rousey hadn't fought. And so it was cool because they were both famous.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And it lasted 17 seconds.

[Eddie]

This is crazy. An arm bar done tap out.

[Mike]

The only thing I saw instantly was that it was rigged. Did you see all that? The videos of them doing Doing like sparring before the fight and saying that they were going over the plot and what was going to happen.

[Bobby Bones]

If it were rigged, no chance. That ends in 17 seconds. No, if it were rigged, it's like a mid late first rounder. We got to make this seem legit. The people that were saying that. Because I saw it too. Eye roll emoji. Because if you're going to rig something, you at least want it to look like it's not rigged.

[Mike]

Right.

[Eddie]

And what are they talking about? Practicing the move.

[Mike]

So when there was another fight going on, the broadcast like panned in on Rhonda, you know, warming up in her locker room, stuff like that. And then it looked like she. Exactly how the fight.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Which is she was rehearsing what she was going to do. Yeah. Of course they do it all the time. Like they show the room they're practicing their grappling moves. So I wouldn't doubt she was actually practicing that move and it worked.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that's also her move.

[Eddie]

Yeah, That's Ronda Rousey's signature move, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. If you're going to rig something, you don't have it in, in 17 seconds,

[Mike]

you got to make it last a little bit. Right.

[Eddie]

Did you see all the faces in the crowd? Just like what?

[Bobby Bones]

But also like they are not in shape. Like Gina Carano was not ready to fight.

[Mike]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Again, I'd been. I'm just picking out a number. I feel like they said it had been like 17 years since she fought and good for them. They got people to care about it. But it was from my perspective a poorly run night. And I'm not sure why because I don't know enough about it. The fights were all first round knockouts. The big fight lasted 17 seconds. Maybe it was one of many and they get better from here. But I don't want to spend much time on it. But I was very underwhelmed.

[Mike]

2009 was her last fight.

[Eddie]

Rhonda's.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that'd be 17 years, right?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Joe Varden]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Something else in sports that people, a mass amount of people aren't super dedicated to. But I thought the headline was so interesting. Obviously I'm watching a lot of college softball because Arkansas is good and my brother in law is the assistant head coach. Texas Tech was playing in a game. They were playing Ole Miss in softball. They have seven innings. So bottom of the seventh, Texas Tech is up. They're down 8, 0. Okay, so they're the home team final at bat. They're down 8, 0. They get out number one done. They get out number two. They're one out away from losing 8, 0. They get a hit. They get a hit. They get a hit. Some runs. Grand Islam. They scored eight runs with two outs in the bottom of the last inning.

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

And then they end up winning in extra innings.

[Mike]

No way.

[Bobby Bones]

So the stat was this century. Teams were 0 and 640 when trailing by 8 plus runs in an NCAA softball tournament game. It's now 1 in 640. Texas Tech was down 8 runs with 1 out left. They just dink, dink, hit, hit. They were down four, and the girl hit a grand slam. I didn't watch the whole inning. I turned it on because I kept seeing the scores go up. And I said, let me check. I couldn't believe it.

[Eddie]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, regardless if you're into baseball softball, to be down eight runs in just the last inning and to come back and win is crazy itself. But to have two outs. The girl that was pitching for Ole miss had, like, 150 pitches, too, that game, and they didn't take her out.

[Mike]

She was in there the whole time. They never took her out. Oh, my gosh.

[Eddie]

That could be part of it.

[Bobby Bones]

I've never seen anything like that before. I understand why she starts the inning. She shut them down through six.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I get it. But after that, grand slam.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, grand slam. It's eight. Eight. It's over. It's tied in.

[Mike]

It's like two or three. It's like, all right, let's get her out of here. Let's close this thing out.

[Bobby Bones]

They need to One out. That's the wildest thing I've ever seen.

[Eddie]

That's pretty wild, that. That. The only thing I think of there is making a bet on that and being like, got this one. Then going back like, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you guys see the Matthew McConaughey story?

[Eddie]

No.

[Joe Varden]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I. I've met him maybe twice. Odd dude, right?

[Eddie]

Odd guy. I've met him a few times.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Always odd experience.

[Mike]

Odd how? Like, awkwardly social or.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean, awkwardly social?

[Mike]

Like, is he just not very like.

[Bobby Bones]

No, he's like, what do you think he is?

[Eddie]

What do you expect him to be?

[Mike]

His character is like, hey, man, what's up?

[Bobby Bones]

That's what he's like.

[Mike]

Okay, okay.

[Eddie]

That's exactly what he's like.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Like a point in his favor is, he's exactly what he is. Showing you that he's exactly like. Which isn't always the case, but sometimes I roll my eyes at him because the story came out that he did not adjust well to fame. So he moved to Peru and lived for 22 days without electricity and went by Mateo.

[Eddie]

I love it. That was in his book.

[Mike]

His book? Yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, it was? Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Mateo.

[Eddie]

I love this dude

[Bobby Bones]

from Variety. Matthew McConaughey once fled the country to live amongst people who didn't know who he was and to get his feet back on the ground.

[Eddie]

And I've told you the story of where he fought the village.

[Bobby Bones]

Is this the same Mateo time?

[Eddie]

Yes. The village giant.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Eddie]

Who had been. Who had beat everyone that's come through that village. And so Matt goes in there, he's like, I want to fight him. And Matt fights him. You have to read the book to find out what happened.

[Bobby Bones]

But again, I was told the book wasn't all true.

[Mike]

Yeah, there's definitely some fabrications to it, for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

22 days. The tears in their eyes and the tears in my eyes and the hugs we had and the sadness and happiness of saying goodbye were all based off the man they met named Mateo, who had nothing to do with the celebrity. It reaffirmed my own identity that I still got it. This is based on me.

[Eddie]

You know what's funny, too, a little fun fact about that, about that time period is he was feeling like a lot of that, Right. Hollywood was kind of taking over his life. So to get grounded again, him and the guy that plays RIP in Yellowstone, Cole Hauser. Cole Hauser and one of the other guys from Days of Confused went on a European bike ride.

[Bobby Bones]

It would just be cool to have that much time and money, because when I hear this, I don't think that's crazy. I think you don't have a job. And if you don't have a job, how did you have that money to do that? Because it had been fun to be able to do that in my 20s and 30s. That have been awesome. I didn't have the time or the money. And if I had the money, I definitely didn't have the time. And if I had the time, that meant I didn't have the money because I was working. So when I hear stories like that, I'm sorry. Even jealous, because that meant they were free, they made a little money, and they were like, screw it, we don't have a nine to five.

[Eddie]

Let's go for three weeks and go ride our motorcycle.

[Bobby Bones]

Go for three months. Who cares? Acting.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So I don't hear crazy. I hear that would be awesome. And then I get jealous because my job was something I had to commit to like anybody else. Does with a normal job. Like, when do we ever get a month in our whole life to go do whatever? To go do something.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then you get to be an adult with kids. And we all know what that's like.

[Eddie]

Yeah, we do now. We all do.

[Mike]

Yes, we do.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what I mean? What's your.

[Eddie]

When you met him, what was it? What happened?

[Bobby Bones]

He didn't smell very good.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Body odor, bo.

[Bobby Bones]

But he was nice.

[Mike]

I could see him being a guy that doesn't wear.

[Bobby Bones]

He doesn't wear deodorant.

[Eddie]

I don't even know if that's a current thing. Like, not sure. But back then, when we met him, yes, it was a known thing that he didn't wear deodorant.

[Bobby Bones]

He was living in a trailer for some movie he had called Sahara, I think. Do you guys might remember that movie? I remember that.

[Joe Varden]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So he's doing promo for that again. He was a nice guy, odd, but it was just like you would think he would be. Whenever you see him on TV going, I'd like to thank my hero, me in the past. You're like, wait, what?

[Joe Varden]

Or whatever.

[Eddie]

He said, yeah, I saw him at a concert, and he was like, wow. He's standing right over there and like, let me see if I can get a picture with him. And I went up while the concert was going. He's there with a buddy. I said, hey, Matt, can I get a picture? He's like, not right now, Buddy man. Not right now. Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Because he knew it opened the floodgates, right?

[Eddie]

And I was like, respectfully, dude, got it.

[Amazon Health AI Narrator]

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[Bobby Bones]

Well, he did call you buddy man.

[Eddie]

Buddy man.

[Joe Varden]

You're good.

[Bobby Bones]

I've never heard buddy man before.

[Eddie]

It was just like. It was such a Matthew McConaughey thing.

[Mike]

Like, he sounded just like him. Right?

[Joe Varden]

I will say that.

[Eddie]

Have you seen that video where these girls are leaving a Texas game? And he's right behind him in his pickup truck. He's right next to him in the pickup truck, and the girl's like, oh, my gosh, there's Matthew McConaughey. She zooms in, and he's just driving the truck. Like, they're stuck in traffic, and he's looking forward, and then he realizes somebody's looking at him. He looks over like, what are you looking at me? And then just waves at him and then just keeps looking forward again. So funny, dude. He's like a. He's a character, and that's just how he is in real life.

[Bobby Bones]

I would think he's playing a character off screen. Except for I think I met him twice and he was the same type of person, same guy. Which is cool. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Mike]

It's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

It's cool. I just don't believe his stories. When he wrestles the. Wrestles the town giant.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Mike]

And then comes back as a new man.

[Bobby Bones]

It's crazy because Eddie doesn't read books and he read that book.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

That's the craziest story. It's not even McConaughey fighting the town giant. It's Eddie reading a book. But that's the one he read.

[Eddie]

You know what's crazier too, is my mother in law gives me a book every Christmas. I don't read any of them. That's the only one I've read.

[Mike]

She gave you that one?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, nice. Okay. It is a good one.

[Eddie]

Like you think she would learn. Like, Eddie's not going to read this book.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you tell her you don't read them?

[Eddie]

Nope.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, then she might. She might think you like to read

[Mike]

it, but she never ask you.

[Eddie]

Like she never follows up either. Like, did you read that book?

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

It's gonna rain every day this week.

[Eddie]

I heard.

[Bobby Bones]

That sucks.

[Eddie]

I wanted to play golf at some point.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't even know what I'm doing. I gotta. We gotta play golf in that big event.

[Eddie]

I know. Hey, we gotta get better with a

[Bobby Bones]

bunch of clients and I'm just terrible.

[Mike]

When is it?

[Bobby Bones]

I've not played golf since we played our tournament July last year.

[Eddie]

Oh, our tournament.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Me versus you.

[Eddie]

I still think about that tournament a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

We played a three day tournament, just Eddie versus myself to see who the better golfer was. And I won. I got the trophy in my office. Still, we can play again this year.

[Eddie]

It's funny. I would love to. Because it's funny when, like, I watch the majors, I think about us, you know, Whenever I see like a golfer, when I see a golfer come back, I keep thinking like, that totally could have been me. Like I should have come back and won that.

[Bobby Bones]

You shouldn't have. And you didn't.

[Eddie]

I got close.

[Bobby Bones]

Water, water, water. Eddie started to be rude on the horse, so we gotta do that. And then I got invited. They tell you to go out and do the pebble.

[Amazon Health AI User]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Did you talk about here?

[Bobby Bones]

I talked about. Dude, I don't know. I do 11 podcasts. I don't know where I say correct.

[Eddie]

So I'm. I'm cat in that one.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. I don't think so. I think as of right now. As of right now. Because if we go, I'm gonna have to get a house.

[Eddie]

Yeah, perfect.

[Bobby Bones]

And my wife and child are going

[Eddie]

to go, oh, that's not good.

[Bobby Bones]

And she's gonna need help and so her grandparents are probably gonna come.

[Eddie]

Babysitter, I can help. No, I'm catting her the day.

[Mike]

So.

[Bobby Bones]

So I invited my father in law.

[Eddie]

Oh, great.

[Bobby Bones]

He's never played Pebble. And I was like, you can go play Pebble. I have to go. I'm going to speak to a bunch of kids too.

[Mike]

Okay. And so that's the real reason you're going up that.

[Eddie]

No, no way, dude. Playing golf.

[Bobby Bones]

There's a senior tournament and they do a big. They bring out celebrities. It's weird.

[Eddie]

Dude, you're a celebrity.

[Bobby Bones]

I hear you. Whatever you think. I literally don't feel that way, but. So they do that. But they want me to come out like a day before and talk to these kids. So they're like, you come out and you can play. What's the real. There's a course that. It's a real fancy club at Pebble. No, it's not pebble because I've already played Pebble. But they were like, when you talk to these kids, if your father in law wants to play pebble, he can go out and play, like no problem. The course will be empty and then.

[Eddie]

Are you talking about a course there?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, the Spyglass. Okay. That's where.

[Eddie]

Monterey Peninsula.

[Bobby Bones]

The tournaments in Monterey Peninsula. Freaking great course.

[Mike]

Really?

[Eddie]

We played it.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, it's amazing.

[Eddie]

Amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

There's another one though, that's a private club.

[Eddie]

Spygle. We say Spygles.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's not one of those. That is so hard to get on. And they're like, you should come out and play that. But I have to go. I'm going to go. But your second round pick, that's fine.

[Eddie]

You know what?

[Bobby Bones]

But we need childcare to come with this. And that's why the grandparents would want to come.

[Eddie]

When you said your father in law, it's like, I surrender to that. Like, let him do it. He would love that preserve.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but it's something like that. Tahama. No, Cypress Point. Cypress.

[Eddie]

Cypress, Cyprus.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Whenever they play the tournament, you can see CP next to a player.

[Bobby Bones]

What does it say the dues are. Let's see, like if you look up, it's not even dues. It's always the entry fee that gets you like the entry fee. It decides to be a member. Yeah, yeah. Because apparently it's pretty tough. Out of my $250,000.

[Eddie]

That's entry fee, the initial fee, and

[Bobby Bones]

then what are the dues? Does it say? Didn't say the dues.

[Eddie]

And the dues would be your yearly.

[Bobby Bones]

It's 350 to 500 per round.

[Eddie]

Back it up. Okay. So to be part of a member, because obviously I'm not a member at a club, you have to pay an entry fee, which is usually expensive. Like for this, in this case, $250,000. Right. Then you pay a monthly fee to be a member on top of the entry fee.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll just tell you how it works. Where I go. So I had to pay like, because mine's nothing like this, but I had to pay like 50 grand. And it also floats. Right. When the club. It's like dynamic pricing. When they can't take really any more members, the fee goes up. So if they have like 10 member spots left and that's it, the feed go in. If a bunch leave or die and they. Or, or they've like made the club bigger or they batted a second course, who knows. So dynamic pricing, sort of. When I got in, I think it was during COVID So that was low press. No, I think everybody was trying to get in.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Because you can. It was outdoors.

[Eddie]

There's something you can do.

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Right.

[Bobby Bones]

The entry fee at my club was like 50 grand. I don't know what it is now.

[Eddie]

And then that's a one time entry

[Bobby Bones]

fee for the entry fee.

[Eddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

And then we have to pay like 2,500amonth

[Eddie]

just to be a member.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. And then we have to spend. Because you automatically get charged like 250 bucks a month for food. Now you go and you use it. You have to spend it anyway. It's credit. No, so this is crazy, dude. It's like 250 bucks a month. And if you go, you get 250 to eat, because they're gonna charge you for 250 anyway.

[Eddie]

Okay. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

So you get. You're paying 250 bucks a month for food.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And if you don't use it, they just charge you anyway.

[Eddie]

Okay, got it. So go use it.

[Joe Varden]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Okay. And then golf, you pay separately for that.

[Bobby Bones]

No, if you bring a member, like every time I bring you, I'd pay like 150 bucks.

[Eddie]

Dang, dude. Really? Uh huh.

[Bobby Bones]

But if.

[Amazon Health AI Narrator]

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[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, through my monthly fee and my.

[Eddie]

Okay, got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But if I bring a guest, that's a fee every time. So when Mike says like 350, whatever it is, that's if you remember and you bring a guest, that's what it costs.

[Mike]

Can you go there just to eat?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah.

[Mike]

Okay. Just making sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Not only that and we don't use all the parts of our club, but there's a pool.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

[Joe Varden]

Pickleball.

[Bobby Bones]

Ours doesn't have tennis.

[Eddie]

Oh, it doesn't? I just mean, I don't know, like, I can't think of a scenario where like, I mean, I like to play golf by myself. So that, that, that sounds fun. I guess. Like if it's. But that's just a lot of money, dude.

[Mike]

But if you had the money out of. You would do it. You love golf.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's. I'm not fighting for it because there's a lot of money and I haven't played golf in almost a year with my ankle and then baby. So it's like just pissing away money.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's also the ability to kind of get on whenever you want up to a point. And you just book through an app and everybody knows you have a locker. I mean, it's just also community. But I don't do the community stuff. Really?

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what I say. A lot of those guys are like friends and this is like a social thing for them. Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Like I joined that club because it was close. That's really the only reason. But we have a bunch of friends that are like other clubs and they always go and hang out and stuff and we're just kind of like. We don't go there. My wife doesn't go up there at all anyway. She's like, she's nothing. She doesn't go there at all.

[Eddie]

If she wants to play golf, she's covered.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Eddie]

She's part of the family. So if she wants to play golf, that's covered. Okay.

[Mike]

Is there an age range?

[Bobby Bones]

It's anybody in the family.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Mike]

Like a six year old kid or you can bring them on there. Like your boy a girl.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's family with the family. Family package.

[Eddie]

So I can't be like a uncle.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think uncle's covered. Immediate family.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

There are some courses in town. Like what is the name of that course? Troubadour. Thank you. That it's not really A dues. It's not really an entry fee. You have to have property.

[Eddie]

Oh, so you get to live on it.

[Bobby Bones]

You got to buy like a 2, 3, $4 million patch of property and then you're a member there. There may be a little due issue too, but there's no entry fee.

[Eddie]

And then don't they have to accept you? Like, do you got it?

[Bobby Bones]

Like you have property. I think you're in. Unless for some reason they demand you not be in.

[Mike]

Which I'm sure those are out there,

[Bobby Bones]

but that's like a whole different level.

[Mike]

My neighbor told me the other day his father in law is at Troubadour, remember? And he's like, anytime you want to go, let me know.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm like, that place is awesome. It's fun. You don't have to wear a collared shirt. Wear no shirt. You don't have to wear any shoes.

[Eddie]

No, that's not true. You can't go there. No shirt. Jean cut offs.

[Bobby Bones]

And I have played it a bunch. Nor have I. I've not seen anyone shirtless. But you can wear jean cut offs.

[Eddie]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Bones]

You can wear a T shirt. You can do whatever you want. That's awesome.

[Mike]

That's a. Is it Justin Thomas? He designed it, right?

[Bobby Bones]

He lives out there. I don't know if he designed it, but I've played probably 10 times out there. It's just a long drive.

[Mike]

Did you look for all the hidden alcohol?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Everybody knows what it is. Their shacks of their food is really great. And those properties, because it's a company and I've played a few of them around the country because the one in Austin that we played the same property.

[Eddie]

Driftwood.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I've played one in like the Bahamas. And they're owned. It's the same ownership. But if you remember one, you remember. That's cool.

[Mike]

That's awesome. Dang.

[Eddie]

Yeah. That's like the, the deal my kids have with their golf pass. All the city courses all over the

[Bobby Bones]

country, they're covered exactly the same as Troubadour.

[Eddie]

Same. Same network. Yeah. So we can be in Cincinnati and we're like, dude, give me your. Your public course.

[Bobby Bones]

I think you. I think you'd be someone who would like to be a member of a club. Because of the social part though.

[Eddie]

Dude, you kidding me? I don't want to hang out with people.

[Bobby Bones]

You do like to hang out with people. You're a people person. But. But I don't know what you'd find.

[Mike]

Other dads, you go golfing by yourself.

[Bobby Bones]

Look at the small talk, Eddie. Yeah, dude, I love it. You would go up for the events. They have events all the time. You go for the events.

[Eddie]

But lately, I don't know, dude. Lately I've been in this small talk thing where like, there's a limit, two minute small talk. And then I'm like, gotta go.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but you find friends that you play golf with. And up there you're right.

[Eddie]

Because every time we're at your club, I see other dads.

[Bobby Bones]

Eddie like, sees people he knows. Every time we play.

[Eddie]

Jake. What's up?

[Bobby Bones]

Dude? It's literally how we do every time

[Mike]

at basketball practice last week.

[Eddie]

It's true, that's true.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, speaking of golf, I didn't know the guy who won the pga.

[Eddie]

Aaron Raj. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm more than a casual. I'm not a super, but I'm a mid. And I didn't know the guy.

[Eddie]

He's a dude that's just been around. But no, doesn't really win a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

British dude. What I learned about him is he wears two gloves.

[Eddie]

I didn't know that.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

I didn't even notice he did that.

[Bobby Bones]

So he starts winning and they gotta like tell stories about him because nobody knows who he is. So humble background, would wear two gloves. He's from the uk, so whatever part, whatever country that he's from in the uk, maybe let's say England could be Scotland for the sake of it. He wore two gloves. Cause it was cold where he played.

[Eddie]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Bones]

So keep his hands warm. And his dad, he keeps iron covers on all the time. His dad, they didn't grow up with a lot of money. So when they could afford a set and his dad like extended himself hard to buy him a nice set, his dad would clean the clubs after every round. So he put iron covers on it.

[Eddie]

And they also said that he is the nicest guy on tour. Nobody will argue that.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, there you have it then.

[Eddie]

That's a lot of pressure.

[Bobby Bones]

He got my vote.

[Mike]

I'll say they did some digging for that one, didn't.

[Eddie]

You're right. So when someone that nobody knows is winning, where do they get all those stories from? Are they just like, dude, dig, dig, dig.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm sure they have PAs that first of all, probably have a little bit on everybody. But day one, it's mostly the big guys because that's all who they're following. But once it gets to day two, day three, they're probably doing deeper research on all the folks that could have a chance. Because I bet you the folks that get cut and you don't know, they never even have bios written about them. Or at least not extensive things that the announcers would have to know. But going into day three, if everybody probably has something on them, especially in the top half, because they could be in contention.

[Eddie]

Yeah. And that round four, you had a bunch of no namers, Smalley and this German guy like that. Yeah. I had never seen before. But would you rather have a no namer win? Kind of cool, or one of the bigger guys win?

[Bobby Bones]

That's tough because, like, the underdog in me likes to see the underdogs win. But it's the big guys who bring the ratings. Like, if I'm a network, I need the shufflers, I want the speeds, I want the names, the Rorys, the names that people know to win because that's what keep eyeballs. But like, as a dude that's just gonna read a headline, it's fun to see those guys win, but it's not good for the game that underdogs win.

[Eddie]

I agree, man. And there was what, 150 players playing like those? Maybe more. Maybe 170. I didn't realize, but that's got to be the most out of all the majors. 170 players to start a tournament is a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like the Bucs winning the NBA championship, the Finals. Like, it's a small market team, nobody really cares about.

[Mike]

Yeah, cool.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a good story. But it's like, ah, you'd rather see the Lakers or the Celtics or people with real stars.

[Eddie]

What about those first?

[Bobby Bones]

Now? Yes. Now. Yes. Because of Wemby. Because he's top five biggest star in the NBA. Now, I did see with the MVP vote, the top five were foreign.

[Eddie]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

There hasn't been an American MVP and I think five or six years.

[Eddie]

Really? Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because when I look.

[Eddie]

Shea's Canadian, right?

[Bobby Bones]

He is. When I looked at the voting, number one was Shea. He won it again. And then I'm gonna probably mess up the order. But Jokic was two, I believe Wimby was three. Am I right? Still?

[Mike]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just going from memory here at 4, I think was Wembanyama.

[Eddie]

I think he said Wemby was three.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's a big dude, you know.

[Bobby Bones]

Good point. Luca was four.

[Eddie]

I believe he broke him in half.

[Bobby Bones]

Luca was four and Giannis was. No, no, no. Was Giannis five? It was a foreigner. Let me think here. What other foreigners are.

[Eddie]

He's right about four. It was Luca.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, five was a foreigner, right?

[Mike]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so it's top four, then. Then I'm wrong. Okay, well, the top four were foreigners, so who's five?

[Mike]

Cade. Cunningham. Oh, Pistons.

[Eddie]

Okay. Okay. That's what I mean. That's crazy, dude. Of these international guys, I mean, it's not quite fair. You have the United States versus the whole world.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but we created it. We've had it for much longer.

[Eddie]

I know.

[Mike]

Yeah. Harden in 18 was the last one. American.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you see Rory be a total pud, like to get the guy kicked out of the pga?

[Mike]

I saw something about it, but I didn't see the clip a USA Chan or something.

[Bobby Bones]

So it was after he had hit. So he swings and the guy goes, USA. Nori goes, get him out of here.

[Eddie]

Really? He's done that before.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, it wasn't during his swing.

[Eddie]

And I see more and more players saying, get him out of here. Like, I don't know, that's just my TikTok algorithm or what?

[Bobby Bones]

But I've seen your algorithms. Get him out of your situations.

[Eddie]

I've seen a lot of players. I saw one video where it was just all compilation of a bunch of players being like, get him out of here. Hey, who did that? That guy right there. Get him out.

[Bobby Bones]

Basketball does that a bunch.

[Mike]

Yeah, but those fans, they think. Basketball fans in particular, I feel like. Feel like you can get away from

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[Eddie]

anything you want after a swing at a golf event.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, not anything.

[Eddie]

Well, nothing like that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. I didn't feel like when the guy yelled USA it was worthy of him getting kicked out. But again, I didn't have the full context of it. I just saw the clip.

[Eddie]

Maybe there was some before that.

[Bobby Bones]

Rory's kind of a pud, and when he's not playing well, I think he just starts to frizzle and find outside factors that he can blame it on. But I still like that.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think he's got that reputation, doesn't he? Yeah, a little bit.

[Eddie]

Yeah. I think more and more you start seeing him, like, not give a crap about what he does.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I got bad news. I was about to join Liv.

[Mike]

Oh, you were?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And then they went down. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Dude. Sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

I was over $40 million for one. One year.

[Eddie]

Dude. You remember, like, dude, the money they were making was unbelievable. Like, people were just. I would never take, like, yeah, right. That's a lot of money.

[Mike]

Somebody offered you half a billion dollars. Get out of here.

[Eddie]

I look and I'm just like, dude, that guy's so rich. Oh yeah, dude is so rich because he went to live.

[Bobby Bones]

We'll take a break, come back, talk to Joe Varden, we'll talk LeBron, NBA Finals, basketball, all that's coming up.

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, let's welcome in Joe Varden, senior NBA writer for the Athletic, based in Cleveland, someone who's covered the league from a lot of different angles. One of my favorite writers, he's written about a bunch about LeBron, the Cavs, Team USA, the NBA playoffs. And you can check out his work, the Athletic, which I'm a big subscriber. You can follow him on social media at Joe Varden. Joe, appreciate you coming on with us. I got to ask you the LeBron question first. Like what, what's happening with LeBron? I'm just going to leave it vague, like what's happening with LeBron right now?

[Joe Varden]

I mean, we're doing a lot of talking these days around Cleveland, wondering if he's going to show up for one of these conference finals games just, just for the spectacle, the spectacle of it. He's done that before, you know, and I think he, I think it was during maybe a track year with the Lakers. It was a couple years ago, and he just showed up during the series against the Celtics and of course fans went crazy. But Bobby, I think to your bigger point about what's going on with him, the thing that I keep coming back to is he's done so much not only with his own career, but what he's done for the league. And I think the question that he's asking himself now is what is another year worth to me? Because he, he's making like $52 million right now and when his contract expires, he is not going to get anywhere near that from any team, including the Lakers. So what discount is worth, you know, the back to backs and the late night flights and the days long of treatment, you know, and the potential for injury. And then what is the, whatever team he's on, what does that team look like? What are their chances if it's not la, is it worth being away from his wife and from Zuri, his daughter, you know, for, for months at a time? So I'm not saying that, that the, the answers to those questions isn't yes. Or that there is a number that he can be comfortable with. But it's like we talk all the time. You know, we list Cleveland as one of the places that he could come and finish his career. Well, okay. Barring massive moves by the front office that would reduce the quality of this team, LeBron would have to walk in and make $6 million, which to you and I might be a lot. Maybe to you it's not a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

To me it's a lot.

[Joe Varden]

But, you know, is he gonna walk in there with. With the history that he has in this, with this franchise, in this city and with the owner, Dan Gilbert, and look around and not only know how much, you know, Donovan makes and Harden and Evan and Jared Allen, but he'd be making less than Sam Merrill. Is he okay with that? I don't know. And if it's on another team, if he's making 10 million or even 15 or even with the Lakers and he's making 20, you know, the guys in the room that are making more than him, he'll know it's because of what he's done for the league. Like this $77 billion media contract that they're. That just started this year. Well, how did the league get that? It was because of what LeBron has done for this. This league over the last 10 years. 12 years out of his 23 year season, so. Or 23 year career. So I just think that, that those questions have a lot more to do with this than I think we give them credit for.

[Bobby Bones]

Wouldn't it be the perfect storybook ending, though, if, let's say the Cavs end up losing to the Knicks or the Cavs even beat the Knicks and fall short to the Thunder of the spurs, and they're just, they're so close. We need one more piece. And LeBron takes $1 for $1. He comes in and is. And everybody stays intact. You still got Harden, you still got Donovan Mitchell, and he comes in and Cleveland wins it again. Wouldn't that be the perfect storybook ending?

[Joe Varden]

Well, I think. Yes, I think of course it would be. And then that is. That is an interesting component of this because for LeBron's 23 seasons, and this is really a separator, a difference between maybe him and like a Kobe is. LeBron did have this. He, he always has. He's had this thing where he does. He wants to be liked. And that's why when he left Cleveland the first time, that first year in Miami was so difficult for him because he was such a villain throughout the league. So I do wonder about that. Like everything LeBron has said about his earning potential and what he's meant to the league. He's, he has always said that he would never do something like that, but if he changed his mind and was pursuing that sort of cementable, like, greatest of all time, you know, and, and, and the way he would end his career by doing something like that, that could be worth it to him.

[Bobby Bones]

Is Dan Gilbert loved in Cleveland right now?

[Joe Varden]

Well, so far I just posted this story about Dan not only renting out 25 buses and sending 1400 Clevelanders up here to Detroit, which is where I am talking to you, but also that the night before he had dinner with Kenny Atkinson and some of the front office and was giving like, calm, sage advice that turned out to work in game seven. And the reaction so far has been pretty cool to the story. So I think I, I, I think insofar as any billionaire is loved these days, I, I think that Dan is, is, would, would be pop. Certainly would be a popular character in the city. He doesn't live there. He lives up here in suburban Detroit, but he is the only living owner to win a major professional sports title in Cleveland, period. You know, they had won one in 64, so that with the Browns before there was a Super Bowl. Otherwise it's just been the Cavs in 16. So he's it. And then beyond that, he just, he's never said no to spending money on this team. And now he's investing in a, in a brand new practice facility on the west side of Cleveland near where the flats used to be. Still are. You know, it's just different times. And you know, he had bought up all this property in downtown Cleveland and done some work with casinos and that sort of thing. And so I think, yeah, I think that, that, that when you consider what else is going on in the city with how, how hard it's been for the Browns. And you know, the guardians are always competitive, but they're always competitive with a greatly reduced payroll, which is upsetting to fans. Yeah, I think, I think that Dan, I think that Dan really has a place in Cleveland lore.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think the fans that he sent up and all the buses, which by the way, a perfect move if you're trying to get, you know, the people of Cleveland to love you. Do you think the fans made a difference?

[Joe Varden]

So Kenny, Kenny said they did. I don't know. I, you know, Bobby, I'm going to look at this in a different way. So the Cavs have the most expensive roster in the NBA, and because of that, it can make it difficult to maneuver around the edges or change your team. And Donovan Mitchell is due an extension this summer, and, like, do you want to pay that? And there's always questions about coaching, especially if a team doesn't live up to the expectations. And this was an organization that has just failed, I guess, for lack of a better term, to get out of the second round since it got good again, you know, like, they did a nice job recovering from LeBron leaving for the Lakers, but then haven't been able to take that next step for years. So there was a lot riding on this, and that's kind of a big gesture. I think it's kind of like, you know, going all in or, you know, just whatever poker term you can think of like that to me, like, if. If Dan does that and then the score is reversed, or even if the Cavs just lose, you know, he, like, he could have that, like, thrown in his face in the community where he lives, which is up here. So to show that kind of belief in support in his product and in. In this. This team, like, kind of says. Says to me, like, where he is on the direction of this team. And I think he's really. I think he approves of it. And I think, you know, that regardless of what happens in these conference finals against strong Knicks team, you know, I think we should expect that, you know, that he is. He is happy with the direction of this team and for it largely to remain the same.

[Bobby Bones]

It felt like the Pistons just did not have enough offensive firepower last night. It's like Kate Cunningham and that's it. You were there, Your thoughts?

[Joe Varden]

Yeah, I mean, that. I thought that that was the question going into the playoffs for this team. And I thought that in a way, the Pistons weren't given enough credit for how well and how hard they played every night during the regular season. But I do think that at some level, that's how they got to the number one seed, is that, you know, in this league where schedules are so different depending on who you're playing that particular night, if you have a younger, stronger team that's hungrier, you can just go out and out physical teams in a way that you can't do in the NFL or in Major League Baseball during the regular season. And then that doesn't quite work all the time when you get to. To the. To the postseason, because everybody's schedule. Schedule is the same, and everybody feels the stakes. And so I thought what was exposed or what we saw from A Detroit team is a team that is disciplined, that is huge, that is not afraid of the physicality, but in like when the chips are down, doesn't have that reliable enough of a second option behind Cade. And the Cavs just threw all kinds of stuff at him last night and you know, that he just couldn't get it going and, and nobody else really could. I mean, I feel like their second most reliable option offensively was Duncan Robinson. And so, you know, I think there's still more work to be done there. And we still, we forget two years ago they were, they were not just the worst team in the NBA, they were one of the worst teams in NBA history. And now they're, they're talk, we're talking about number one seeds and taking that next step. So let's not lose sight of the fact of how far Detroit has traveled in a very short amount of time. But yeah, I mean, they still have some work to do and they should. Right. Like, you know, they like that's too much ground to trap to cover in three years. And then there is something in the East. There's only one team, Bobby, in the last 10 years that has gotten that number one seed and made it to the finals and that was the 24 Celtics. And you know, Detroit's not quite there yet.

[Bobby Bones]

The next just had a full week off. Cleveland just came out of the seven game series. It kind of feels like what happened with the knicks where the 76ers just came out of a seven game series and ran into the Knicks. How are we feeling? Like as far as this series starting, is Cleveland gonna need a buffer game to kind of get their, their, their wheels back?

[Joe Varden]

Well, man, I, look, I, I don't know when this airs today, so.

[Bobby Bones]

Today.

[Joe Varden]

Okay, today. All right, good. Well then, you know, I, I guess I'm putting myself out there. I, I've been through this before. You know, as you mentioned, I've been doing this a while and I, and I am aware of what happened to the Sixers in Game 1. But the Knicks did not have anywhere near the layoff going into the conference semifinals that they've had now. And it is my experience that these game ones, when one team is coming off a seven game series and the other team has been off for eight days, that they're a mess and you're not going to really be able to tell from this first game what the series is going to look like. And I certainly felt that way going into the Cavs Piston series. And I know both teams had played a game Seven. So all that's a long way to say. I actually think while I'm picking the Knicks in the series, I think the Cavs are going to win tomorrow night. I think the Knicks are going to look really rusty. They're going to be a little out of sync. And the Cavs have played every other day for two weeks, and they really found something that worked the other night. And they'll probably go out there tomorrow with roughly the same game plan. And so I kind of think, you know, this series is 1:1 going back to Cleveland.

[Bobby Bones]

I know we started with LeBron. I'd kind of like to end back on LeBron. I was thinking about people who had so much hype, and I think he's probably the most live up to the hype athlete I've ever seen. I mean, Bryce Harper, a guy who had a lot of hype and has had a Hall of Fame career, I think it's LeBron. I think the other guy who I've seen hyped up a lot and deserving so far, but still. So we're in the infancy of it, is Wimby. But is LeBron the most hyped and lived up to the hype athlete that you've ever seen?

[Joe Varden]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I'll be 46 in September, so I. Yeah, it's. It's not even close. In the NBA, we have had some. We've had guys who have come into the league with very similar expectations, which is hard to do. But if you think about a Zion Williamson in the fanfare that followed him, and then now, I think Wemby, although it might be a little different because he's not from the United States. And I just think that matters. I just. There hasn't been anybody, anybody that has been. Has. Has had so much expectation and just this sort of promise around him that he was going to do these special things in his sport. Maybe Tiger, but I don't think we were saying Tiger until he won the 97 Masters. And if you think about so. So then the expectations placed on him and then he wins whatever, 14 or 15. I forget now. So maybe Tiger, but then even like, you know, Jordan Spieth, Rory, like these guys in golf that they go crazy as young as young athletes, and we start talking about them as the next Tiger. And the reason why I say Tiger, and I know I'm focused on golf and I'm wearing this golf hat, but like, Tiger woods took a sport that was on the fringe and made it mainstream. Like, he changed the whole conversation. So I do think he counts and there were people that were supposed to follow him and nobody's really kind of gotten there. I think, you know, we're looking at Kate, Caitlin Clark as maybe being able to do that for the wnba, but she didn't have a very good second year. You know, she was hurt. So like, she's got a lot of work to do. So you can just go all, just all the sports, you know, Mike Trout, like, for as great as he is, like he's been hampered by injuries, like Shohei, again, Japanese. So, so it's just a little different when we talk about these expectations and what we're watching. Shohei has been really good and he's a, he's a multi time champion, so maybe he's in that conversation. Maybe. But I just. There isn't really any other athlete that compares when you talk about what was expected of him and what he ended up doing. It's been a remarkable ride and I've been lucky to have been able to cover so much of it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think of LeBron wearing the Irish jersey in high school on the COVID of Sports Illustrated. Like he's a, a high school teenager and it's like, this is the next guy. And turns out they were right. Which is crazy because, yeah, they're never right. Okay, let me give you one final final question. What happens with Giannis?

[Joe Varden]

Yeah,

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I think it would be better. I think it's. I think the Bucks should, I think the Bucks should trade him. I think they should. I just think that he, the way he carried himself this year was a disappointment. It was. And I think that he caused most of the problems that they had there. And even you could trace Doc Rivers back. Like, Doc didn't work out so well there. Okay. But you could trace all that back to Giannis too. So much of what they've done over the last however many years, like the, the trade for, for Damian Lillard and like the, like sort of the breaking up of their championship team, all that was done in Giannis's name. And so then we get to this point this year where it's, it's obvious that he and his, his representatives were having discussions with the Bucks about maybe moving on and then for whatever reason, it doesn't quite work out. And like, so now he's trying to save face. But then the way the season ended, it's just, I know it's exhausting to me. And if it's clear there in Milwaukee that they can't win anymore with him, you know, see, see what you can't can get. Now. Now, I do give them credit for holding their ground because I didn't really like any of the offers that they got at the trade deadline this year. And I expect. I expect there to be more options available to them now. But I think for all parties involved, I think it's time to do that. So where he ends up, I don't know, but I just think. I do think it's time, and I think it'd be good for the league, for the Bucs and for Giannis to just turn the page from this whole story.

[Bobby Bones]

Joe, Appreciate the time, everybody. Follow Joe. Joe. V A R D O N Joe Varden. And again, I'm a big Athletic subscriber, and I see that every month when it resubscribes on my credit card because it pops up on my phone. You've been billed 9.99 for the Athletic. I read all your stuff. I'm a big fan. Thanks, Joe, for the time.

[Joe Varden]

Oh, my pleasure. Next time, I have a. I have an Eric Church NBA story for you.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so I guess next. Okay, I got time now. I'd love to hear it.

[Joe Varden]

All right. Well, it's not. I mean, it's really cool to me. And then the fact that, like, you were having me on, I was really excited about it, so if this lands flat, you know, it's my fault.

[Bobby Bones]

All right?

[Joe Varden]

But I was assigned to the Nuggets, and I do believe this was. This was. This was not when they went to the finals. This was, I think, when they ultimately lost in the conference finals. And so I. I flew home from my son's first communion, and then I flew back to Denver to rejoin the series, and it was an off day. And. And so I, I, you know, I'm landing in Denver. Don't know what I'm gonna do that night. And then it just comes across my phone that there's an Air Church concert. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm in for this. And. And so, like, I land and I go to. I try to catch practice. I think it was the Blazers had practice at the arena. And I get in there and I'm late and practice was over. And so I'm just kind of walking through the arena looking for stuff, and. And I went into the media room thinking I could at least, like, pick up a can of. Of Diet Pepsi, you know, see if anybody's in there, see if there's anything I could get, you know, for work. And the media room had been completely turned over. And, like, the lights were low and there were some tables and some candles. I'm like, what? What am I walking into? And sure enough, Eric Church was in there half naked with a towel over his over his bottom half getting a rub down in the Denver Nuggets media room. And I walked right in on it. So there you go.

[Bobby Bones]

And did you say anything to a half naked Eric Church laying down, getting rubbed down?

[Joe Varden]

Oh, sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that's good. That's good. You saw him in a way I never have.

[Eddie]

There you go. There you go.

[Bobby Bones]

Joe, I hope you have a great week. Thank you so much for spending time with us. Big fan.

[Joe Varden]

Thanks, Bobby. Me too. Thanks for having me.

[Bobby Bones]

Bye.

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, thanks to Joe Varden. Before we go, I want to talk about this nine. Have you guys seen this challenge? The nine by nine by nine challenge?

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

So the nine by nine challenge first is something they do in baseball, which involves nine hot dogs, nine beers, nine innings. And there are now teams that build the tray for it.

[Mike]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Bones]

So you can go to certain ballparks. And they have the nine by nine challenge. Nine hot dogs, nine beers, nine innings. A fantasy football loser had to do the nine by nine by nine challenge. He had to run nine miles in one day. Golf nine holes. After he runs nine miles.

[Eddie]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

Eat nine donuts.

[Eddie]

It's not bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Ready? Drink nine shots of espresso.

[Eddie]

He's wired.

[Bobby Bones]

Finish nine nicotine pouches.

[Eddie]

Wait, now we're nine nine, nine, nine, nine.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, there's nine of them. Nine nine by nine challenges.

[Mike]

They probably each got to choose one thing.

[Eddie]

That is terrible.

[Bobby Bones]

Complete nine ski runs. This is in Vermont. I don't know anything about skiing, but it's like just the downhill. Eat nine hot dogs, drink nine beers, and sit through nine innings of baseball at a Red Sox game.

[Eddie]

And how much time? One day in one day.

[Bobby Bones]

All that's in one day.

[Eddie]

That's impossible.

[Mike]

Impossible.

[Eddie]

Impossible. There's no way, dude. As someone who tried to eat, I don't know how many hot dogs, you'd

[Bobby Bones]

have to think about this. So let's say the game started at 7:00pm yeah. Okay, so you wake up in the morning and you run nine miles first.

[Eddie]

Okay. How long does that take, Mike?

[Bobby Bones]

Plus, you could do it 2 or 20.

[Mike]

Not for you Somebody random.

[Bobby Bones]

So let's say you're doing a 15 minute mile.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. And just really be conservative about that.

[Eddie]

It's already noon.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, let's say you start at 6 though.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

6, 6am Let me do the math here.

[Eddie]

So what are we thinking? Three hours to do that?

[Bobby Bones]

Let's see if we do a 15 minute mile times nine miles. Yeah. Two and a half hours roughly. What do you get a different number than me? Yeah, I got two hours and 15 minutes.

[Eddie]

Two and a half.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so then, so that's two and a half hours. So now it's. Now you gotta do it. You gotta start it. You gotta start at 4:30.

[Eddie]

4:30, yeah.

[Joe Varden]

So let's start at 4:30.

[Bobby Bones]

You're done by 7:00am There.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Now you gotta golf nine holes and

[Eddie]

that's probably gonna take you two hours.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's be conservative though. May not be a good golfer.

[Eddie]

Okay. Two and a half hours.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So now it's 9:30, eat nine donuts, you can be done by 10, drink nine shots of espresso. That's gonna hurt, but let's just go to 11am I don't know how long a single ski run takes.

[Mike]

Yeah, I feel like driving there alone and just getting set up.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's gonna be close to where they live or they wouldn't do it. Yeah, but I don't. Anybody here go skiing?

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

It could be like 15 minutes to complete. Okay.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

One.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah. 10 to. Yeah. 10, 15, 20 minutes. Okay, so let's say it's 20 minutes. It's 180. Let's say three hours. So now we're at 12. Let's just say we're at 2:30pm I'm stressing out already. There's nine nicotine pouches, so you could probably do those while you're doing the

[Mike]

ski R. While you're doing anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, but you got to eat donuts and espresso though, so that's true.

[Mike]

Sorry, not anything. Anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but it's not going to mix.

[Eddie]

Well, the donuts you can do while you're playing golf, you can do while you're true. Anything.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's 2:30 right now. Let's just say it's 3:00pm after you finish the nicotine pouches.

[Eddie]

How many times have you done that?

[Bobby Bones]

But then you go to the game at seven, so there's time to do this. You gotta focus up. There's time to do this.

[Mike]

That sounds miserable.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's. That's harsh. It's funny though. It made the news. So you know, man, the other thing before we jump is I saw Tom Brady walk in the catwalk and the Gucci dude in all leather, did you see it? Yes. Dude, what's up with your boy?

[Eddie]

He's not my boy.

[Mike]

He's not my boy.

[Bobby Bones]

His aura, he's killing his winning aura.

[Eddie]

He is your boy.

[Mike]

No, no, no, no, no. He's not my boy anymore. I. I know Tom Brady as the guy that you didn't know anything about other than he went Super Bowls. That's the Tom Brady I know.

[Eddie]

Still the same guy. Still the same dude.

[Mike]

He's definitely. Because we know all about him and his runways and his girls and his Michael Jackson red jacket that he's wearing now.

[Eddie]

Everything now. Kissing his son on the lips after a little massage is not a big deal, right?

[Mike]

I don't even remember that. That feels like so many times that now all I think about is what he's doing now.

[Bobby Bones]

I still, I saw the picture and I thought it was AI because he was in like all black leather and I thought Tom Brady is a good looking dude. And you know what? Anybody? Have fun. Live your best life. All I'm saying is if you're a Brady football fan, this is kind of killing that.

[Mike]

Killing it. Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not even being a hater for what he was doing. I'm just saying he was known as the champion quiet assassin.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Now he is the loud luxurious dating influencers model. All black as weird.

[Mike]

Giving commencement speeches on the same day.

[Bobby Bones]

It's weird. Yeah, I don't mind that so much.

[Mike]

I know, me neither. I'm just saying, like, it's just everywhere. It's like he did Georgetown, right? Yeah, at Georgetown. And, and I saw he was also celebrating with the Aces and their WNBA championship like all in one weekend. He's doing all this, which obviously. Live your life.

[Bobby Bones]

Live your life.

[Eddie]

I mean, I'll be real.

[Bobby Bones]

That sounds fun. I'd like to do all of it. But Tom Brady, the great, greatest quarterback of all time. It makes what we thought of as like this dude that just focuses on win championships. It just. We see a different version of him now.

[Mike]

I know you think the divorce is a big reason.

[Eddie]

100% has to be right.

[Mike]

Because it's gotten crazy since the divorce.

[Eddie]

My wife goes out of town for a week and you know what I'm doing?

[Bobby Bones]

Nine donuts and a ski run.

[Joe Varden]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm not hating. I'm just saying it's weird. It's a. It's a totally different version of the person that we thought we knew.

[Mike]

I agree. I totally agree. I miss the old Tom Brady.

[Eddie]

And it's not fair because you guys pinch named him as this football player.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, he did that well, okay? Protected his image perfectly. Now won championships.

[Eddie]

We know what he's really like.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. Thanks to Joe Barton. Thanks to kickoff, Kevin and Eddie and Mike with the whistle.

[Eddie]

Thank you, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Then me.

[Eddie]

Thanks.

[Bobby Bones]

Last but least, me. All right, that's it. We'll catch you guys soon. Mike, hit that whistle. All right, bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones, that's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at brandonraymusic. You can follow the show on Instagram @bobbybonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host producer Eddie, segment producer Ickoffkevin and executive producer Ike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles.

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