25W: What Would Bobby Put on His Resume? + Texas Longhorns Legend Brian Jones on the Cowboys Draft Plans + Bobby's Top 5 NBA Players + Kickoff Kevin Has a Twin Babysitter Dilemma

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – 25 Whistles

Episode: "What Would Bobby Put on His Resume? + Texas Longhorns Legend Brian Jones on the Cowboys Draft Plans + Bobby's Top 5 NBA Players + Kickoff Kevin Has a Twin Babysitter Dilemma"
Date: April 23, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones
Co-hosts: Eddie, Kevin (& Guest: Brian Jones)

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Episode Overview

This episode of 25 Whistles blends sports commentary, personal anecdotes, and in-depth interviews. Bobby and his crew dive into recent sports controversies (including a viral CM Punk hotel incident), review recent sports documentaries, break down NBA player rankings, and chat with Texas Longhorns legend Brian Jones about the NFL draft—especially the Dallas Cowboys’ potential moves. The show closes with a roundtable on hiring babysitters for twins, including practical advice and comedic reflections on parenthood.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Wrestler CM Punk’s Hotel Incident (04:11–13:00)

• What Happened: CM Punk slapped a fan’s phone out of their hand in a hotel (post-WrestleMania weekend); sparked a debate on personal space, celebrity privacy, and appropriate behavior.
• Roundtable Take:
  • WWE’s lack of security in public spaces for big stars is a problem.
  • “You literally can’t slap a phone out of somebody’s hands.” — Bobby (06:59)
  • Sympathy for CM Punk’s position, but general consensus: “Everybody lost here.”
  • Parallels drawn to similar celebrity-fan confrontations (Quentin Tarantino, Derrick Henry incidents).
• Memorable Quote: “You can’t stop everybody from being a loser. You are famous. It sucks, but you can’t do that.” — Bobby (08:39)

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2. Netflix Sports Documentaries Review (13:23–21:14)

• Blazers Documentary (“The Portland Jail Blazers”)
  • Overview of the troubled but talented early 2000s Portland Trailblazers.
  • Standout characters: Damon Stoudemire, Rasheed Wallace, Scottie Pippen, Bonzi Wells.
  • “If there’s nothing else on and you’re not jumping into a series... good for a sports doc.” — Bobby (15:21)
• Montreal Expos Doc
  • Details the team’s move to Washington (now Nationals).
  • Interesting for die-hard baseball fans, but “pretty business-focused and maybe boring if you’re not into history.”
  • Fun fact: Used AI/ChatGPT to instantly recall Expos’ executive David Sampson (19:13).
• Rory McIlroy Masters Documentary noted but not reviewed in detail.
• Memorable Moment: Bobby’s voice assistant debate: male or female voice? “Strong woman with short hair...maybe a few tattoos.” — Eddie (19:49)

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3. NBA Top 5 Players—International Domination (25:06–27:00)

• Bobby’s Current Top 5:
  1. Nikola Jokić
  2. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA)
  3. Victor Wembanyama (Wemby)
  4. Luka Dončić
  5. Giannis Antetokounmpo
• Talking Point: None of the top 5 are American-born players.
• “Wemby is top three player in the NBA, but will be the best for a long time to come.” — Bobby (25:41)
• Quick LeBron/Luka/Tatum ranking chat.

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4. "What Would Bobby Put on His Resume?" (27:09–34:12)

• Reflection on Bobby’s Career:
  • Mini Forrest Gump: “I’ve done a little bit of everything until I’ve felt fulfilled by it and gone, ‘Okay, I’m done.’” — Bobby (28:02)
  • Stand-up comedy, best-selling author, band touring (Raging Idiots—including headlining ahead of Old Dominion), TV appearances, “Dancing with the Stars” champion, radio hall of fame.
• Crew Discusses Top 3 Resume Highlights:
  1. Youngest ever inducted in Radio Hall of Fame.
  2. Two-time NYT Bestselling Author.
  3. “Dancing with the Stars” champion.
• Memorable Moment:
  • “There’s only like 30 of us [DWTS winners].” — Bobby (31:44)
  • Bobby’s most cherished achievement: MVP belt from a celebrity softball game: “That was two hours, playing against real athletes…like Dez Bryant, Jenny Finch, and I won MVP!” (32:14)
• Real Talk: Bobby opens up about hitting rock bottom with sleeping pills and attending therapy camp (35:02–35:28).

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5. Interview: Brian Jones (Texas Longhorns Legend, CBS Sports Analyst) (39:47–58:53)

a. Personal Connection

• Bobby & Brian recall their early days working in Austin media (40:00).
• “You’ve done it successfully.” — Brian to Bobby (43:03)

b. Texas Longhorns Prospects & College Football (43:30–44:38)

• Brian refrains from season predictions—doesn’t start college ball prep until June.
• Quick optimism for next year: “Arts [Arch Manning] was one of the best in the business under center those last 4 or 5 games. They’ll be just fine.” — Brian (44:05)

c. NFL Draft 2026: Wide Receivers & Edge Rushers (44:48–47:27)

• Deep WR class this year—standouts:
  • Jordan Tyson (Arizona State)
  • Makai Lemon (USC) — “Catches more contested footballs than anyone I’ve seen…Reminds me of Nakua with the Rams.” — Brian (45:55)
• Best edge rusher: David Bailey — “He ain’t fancy…just has that money step. He gets off the ball, gets to quarterbacks.” (46:14)
• Reuben Bain also highlighted—“Such a violent football player. Big-game guy.”
• Memorable Quote: “What does ankle flexion mean? They just pick [concerns] out of the air…” — Brian (47:38)

d. Running Backs and Draft Philosophy (48:37–51:05)

• Jeremiah Love: “He’s number one by far…a great athlete…can play hurt…worthy of a top-five pick.” — Brian (48:49–50:19)

e. Cowboys’ Draft Plans (51:05–53:53)

• Cowboys strengthened D-line—need help at linebacker or maybe another edge rusher.
• Strong linebacker class (Sonny Styles, Jacob Rodriguez, CJ Allen).
• Bobby asks about defensive picks and building for success.

f. Other Notables

• Importance of Caleb Downs (safety): “A pro’s pro…First rounder.” — Brian (53:29)
• Brian’s advocacy for CTE research (54:27)—partnered on a study for a potential treatment drug.
• Social talk: Mack Brown, growing up a Longhorn in Red Raider territory, and making peace with past conflicts.

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6. Kickoff Kevin’s Babysitter Dilemma (62:44–68:34)

• Kevin needs to hire his first babysitter for twins—what’s the “right” rate?
  • Nurse as sitter: “That’s so much peace of mind—you’re paying for that.”
  • Going rate discussed: $15–$30/hr, more for twins.
  • Funny anecdote: Babysitter wanted boyfriend to “help”—immediate no-go.
• Parenting & hiring tips: Always overpay good help if you can—“It’s so hard to replace good talent.” — Bobby (67:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Wrestling Security:
  “Security is not to beat people up. It’s to keep people away.” — Bobby (05:13)

• On Resume Building:
  “I’ve had such a Forrest Gump-like career...I’ve done a little bit of everything until I’ve felt fulfilled by it.” — Bobby (28:02)

• On NBA’s International Era:
  “None of them American.” [on the NBA's top 5] — Bobby (27:02)

• On Overpaying Talent:
  “If you can afford it, always overpay your talent…It’s so hard to replace good talent.” — Bobby (67:40)

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Quick Reference Timestamps

• CM Punk incident analysis: 04:11–13:00
• Sports docs reviews: 13:23–21:14
• NBA player rankings/top 5: 25:06–27:00
• Bobby’s resume & career musings: 27:09–34:12
• Brian Jones interview: 39:47–58:53
• Babysitting for twins dilemma: 62:44–68:34

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Takeaways & Tone

Tone: Lively, honest, and self-deprecating. Bobby speaks candidly about his own ups and downs, the unpredictability of careers, and shares a conversational but thoughtful analysis on sports and life.

For First-Time Listeners:
This episode captures the essence of 25 Whistles—a mix of humor, sports analysis, personal storytelling, and a look at the personalities behind the mics. Even without deep technical sports expertise, fans of pop culture and human stories will find plenty to enjoy.

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[Bobby Bones]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Eddie]

Talking Force.

[Bobby Bones]

And they all wear a whistle. Yeah, it's stupid, but why did you expect. It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. We'll talk sports in a minute. Blow the whistle. I want to start with wrestling. Oh, of course.

[Eddie]

Good.

[Bobby Bones]

And this isn't like a wrestling breakdown, but I don't know if you guys saw the video in the hotel of CM Punk slapping the phone out of the fan's hand.

[Eddie]

I saw that.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so is that after or before? After.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe it was after the matches. After. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll describe it to folks even if you're not a wrestling fan. This is interesting. So I think they're staying at the MGM hotel. Didn't matter. Vegas, big hotel. Gotta walk through the lobby. And CM Punk has his suitcase. He's rolling back to the hotel. His wife, A.J. lee, also a wrestler. They both had wrestled that night, too, by the way. And they're walking through. And what's weird is these WWE wrestlers have no security. So all these people know what hotel they're staying at, and they're all just waiting for them in the lobby. It's weird they have no security. Right, Mike? Very weird. Because they're very famous, especially in Vegas on WrestleMania weekend.

[Eddie]

But is it because they're so jacked in, like, they don't need security? I'll take care of myself.

[Bobby Bones]

No, because even people, Jack, need security. Because seven people trying to get pictures of you is more than one gigantic dude.

[Kevin]

Remember we saw Miles Garrett with security.

[Bobby Bones]

That's true. Yeah. Security is not to beat people up. It's to keep people away. And they get swarmed all the time.

[Kevin]

You got to have somebody.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So he's going in, he's got his wife with him, and they're going to the elevator section of the hotel. And this one fan, I don't know. I hate to say this, but picture a wrestling fan.

[Eddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

I know I'm a wrestling fan, but, you know, picture he's probably like, upper 40s, early 50s dude, and he's got his phone up, and he's way close on AJ Lee, the wrestler. And Bailey, who's another wrestler who wrestled that night, comes in and CM Punk and his wife are trying to get away. And Bailey comes in and gives a Julie a hug. And they're. They're like, going into the lobbies, but this fan keeps the phone right on them as they're, like, hugging. CM Punk is over and slaps the phone out of the fan's hand. It's like, dude, what are you doing that? So everybody was wrong. I like to say why I think everybody's wrong. Multiple levels. This is just a failure in all ways. WWE has got to get them security going in and out of these hotels, or there's got to be some sort of entrance for famous people to come in. There really isn't. Just period. We would see famous people going on all the time. The Friday time, these hotels failure. One is WWE has to get security for these people. They're massive stars. And this happened like, five, six, seven times over the weekend where different wrestlers were like, guys, you got to stop doing this to us. We go somewhere and you guys, like, grab us. And so that's one. Number two is you literally can't slap a phone out of somebody's hands. It doesn't matter unless they're pushing you, touching you, unless their phone's hitting you. You cannot slap a phone out of someone's hand.

[Kevin]

That'd be so hard, though.

[Bobby Bones]

I know it seems tempting.

[Kevin]

I would do it.

[Bobby Bones]

You're the famous person. You gotta be bigger than that. Yes. You can't do that. Number three, stop being a freaking loser. Dude, with the phone recording, yeah, there's personal space, and I get it, they're in a public place. But also, there's no need to take your phone and put that close. And obviously they don't want you recording them. Right. Then you're also not taking a picture of you with them. There are social constructs that people have with other people, even if they don't know them. It was too much. You overstepped a boundary.

[Kevin]

I thought you said it when you first started talking about it. That was like a kid.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it was an adult man. Upper 40s, lower 50s.

[Kevin]

That's weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Bald dude. Get a hat over the bald head. Well, he's just. What I said. Wrestling. Imagine adult wrestling fan. Don't you feel like everybody was. Everybody was wrong, though. WWE got to get security for people. CM Punk, you can't slap the phone out of someone's hand. Although that would have been hard to do, but you just can't do it because you're going to end up owing money or you're going to end up having to compensate the person. And dude, mostly dude, stop being a freaking loser. These are human beings. I get they're famous to you, and I get it's not illegal, but there are certain, like, social rules you. You need to follow. Everybody lost here, and they, as of right now, they said he's not suing. He just demands an apology from CM Punk.

[Eddie]

Well, that's easy. Sorry, man.

[Bobby Bones]

He's not gonna apologize.

[Eddie]

Oh, he's not?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think so. Unless he has he apologies. No way he's gonna apologize.

[Eddie]

I would just to avoid any kind of, like, issue, just sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

And he might post something like, I should be a bigger person. I don't know. It's bad news all the way around. If. When you see the video, you'll feel bad for CM Punk.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And for AJ Lee, but then you'll also go, man, just get in the elevator. People. The people are losers. Can't stop everybody for being a loser. You are famous. It sucks, but you can't do that.

[Kevin]

This is, like, in person, clickbaiting to me.

[Eddie]

What? Putting the phone.

[Kevin]

The guy knows what he's doing and he wants to maybe go viral or maybe get the attention.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he was a super fan. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Is he that big of a fan, don't you think?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he was so close right up in her face, and she even, like, pushed it away herself. Yeah. That's why CM Punk reacted. Yeah. She pushed first. As in, like, she didn't push him, but she put her hand up like, get the phone back.

[Eddie]

I feel like if you're that close, if the phone is that close to you, where you don't have to go out of the way to knock it out and I understand. Don't knock it out. It's bad. Like, that's. That's not the answer. But if it's that close, I feel like you have the freedom to just, like, you're in my space.

[Bobby Bones]

Can I counterpoint that?

[Eddie]

Go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

As kids, no one was breaking the rules when they were doing. I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. That is.

[Eddie]

I'm not touching you.

[Bobby Bones]

That's right.

[Kevin]

She had siblings.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You know, no rules being broken because you know what? You weren't touching them.

[Eddie]

That's so hard, man.

[Kevin]

Man, this guy looks scared, too. When he. When CM Punk slapped it up.

[Eddie]

Yeah. That video is crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

And so I don't think you had to be a wrestling fan to just understand and even appreciate what CM Punk did. He was kind of protecting his wife. Yeah, but you just can't do that because that losery dude was not going to harm anybody. He was just being creepy and weird. And there are no rules against being creepy and weird in a public place. As long as your pants are up,

[Eddie]

that's the only rule.

[Kevin]

Shirt on.

[Bobby Bones]

Keep it on.

[Kevin]

Pants up. Did.

[Eddie]

I don't know if it's that video that kind of got me in that algorithm, but shortly after that, a video, an older video of Quentin Tarantino coming out of a restaurant, you know, and same situation where he's like, what are you doing? What are you doing with the phone? What are you doing? And the guy won't answer me. Like, answer me. I'm asking you, what are you doing with the phone? And he finally just knocks it out of his hand. And that's how the video ends.

[Bobby Bones]

That feels worse.

[Eddie]

That does feel worse.

[Kevin]

Did you see the Derek Henry one going around now?

[Eddie]

The. The poster?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it new?

[Kevin]

Yeah, as of yesterday.

[Bobby Bones]

Whatever it is, I haven't seen it.

[Eddie]

See, I don't think that one was bad.

[Kevin]

No, it's not. That guy's trying to be a clickbaity guy.

[Eddie]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

So talk me through it.

[Kevin]

So he was at an autograph signing. Derek Henry was. And they had a bunch of fans come there. Somebody walks up with a poster of Cooper De Jean tackling Derek Henry.

[Eddie]

And Cooper had already signed it, and

[Kevin]

Cooper had signed it. The highlight is Cooper tackling Derek Henry for sure. And the guy walks with Derrick Henry signing and hand it to him for him to sign. Derek Henry just takes it and throws off the table.

[Eddie]

He didn't mean to throw it off the table.

[Kevin]

He did pick it up.

[Eddie]

He literally was just like, I'm not signing that, and kind of push it off, but it fell off the table. And the guy's like, whoa, whoa. You throwing the picture? But he's like, no. He even. Derrick Henry even went to go pick it back up and give it back to him.

[Bobby Bones]

So what's. I. I haven't seen it. I have an opinion, but what's consensus from people who saw it, who did

[Kevin]

right, who did wrong, that Derrick Henry was in the right. Like, what do you why are you going to Derek Henry signing day and having him sign a poster of him getting like. The highlight is clearly Cooper. Cooper, I think is the only one in color and everything else is in black and white.

[Brian Jones]

Cooper jeans.

[Eddie]

It's interesting though because you do have these two players in one picture.

[Bobby Bones]

Now counterpoint.

[Eddie]

Go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

I've got a signed picture of Nolan Ryan beating up Robin Ventura and Robin Ventura also signed it.

[Kevin]

No way.

[Eddie]

See, that would be comfortable.

[Bobby Bones]

Headlock where, wait, Nolan Ryan's got him after him with a pitch and he's pounding him. And Robin Ventura signed it as well. Dang.

[Kevin]

He got whooped.

[Eddie]

He did get whooped.

[Kevin]

Yeah, he got whooped.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, for sure. By like a 45 year old robin or Nolan Ryan.

[Eddie]

He sure did.

[Bobby Bones]

But again, you kind of probably should check with somebody before you put that up in front of somebody. Maybe. Do you think the guy knew he

[Eddie]

was an Eagles fan too? The guy was. He had Eagles.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think he knew it was going to kind of be a semi troll? Derrick Henry?

[Kevin]

For sure. Yeah. He walks up and he's kind of got a little smirk and he's like, got it.

[Bobby Bones]

And he didn't mean to push it

[Eddie]

to the ground and then he really didn't. He just meant to push it to him and it fell off the table

[Kevin]

and he picked it. Derek legit picked it up and then didn't look at the guy, just put it back on here and just said, all right, who's next?

[Eddie]

And even the person sitting next to Derek Henry, which I don't know is handler, maybe is like, no, no, no, he's not signing that. He's not signing that.

[Bobby Bones]

Usually there are rules for those type things, meaning you're going to pay 20, 80, 300 bucks depending on what it is. And it tells you a ball, a hat, how much for this? Like, how did that picture even get through?

[Eddie]

Not a picture where he's getting tackled.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And like Cooper is like kind of driving him into the ground, which rarely obviously happens.

[Eddie]

It is a kind of a cool fixture.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, the CM Punk thing was interesting. Everybody lost there. What I hope happens is WWE gets them some security.

[Eddie]

That's crazy that they don't have security. But, but I mean, to, to Kevin's point, when he's talking about Miles Garrett, when we saw him at Super Bowl, I mean, Miles Garrett was 10 times bigger than his security.

[Kevin]

People from across the street, you could see him.

[Bobby Bones]

Not many people are going to be bigger than Miles Garrett.

[Eddie]

No, no, he's huge.

[Bobby Bones]

So, yeah, there's that. I Got a couple things here I wanted to mention. I watched two different Netflix documentaries. Sports wise. Have you guys watched the Joe Blazers yet?

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Pretty good, huh?

[Kevin]

Watched it last weekend. I. Yeah, it is. I'm still a little too young to remember that, but it was interesting. The GM is obviously the most interesting guy because it's like just all the people that he signs and whatnot. It's like, dang, dude, you're not learning, are you?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So the Trailblazers, all those guys got in trouble. I did not know that Stoudemire was from Portland.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Went back up to play in Portland and they kind of treated him like garbage, too. Even though he was like the guy from home.

[Eddie]

So what. What's the story?

[Bobby Bones]

Did the Trailblazers, they got an owner. Owner hired, General manager. General manager. Like, we're just going to win. So all the players I got together, they were very problematic.

[Kevin]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

And.

[Eddie]

But they were good together.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they were good. Yeah, they were good. They never won the championship, but they got to the finals.

[Kevin]

The problem is they were going against the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And they're all just trouble because of Rashida Wallace.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Damon Stoudemire. Yeah.

[Kevin]

And then Scottie Pippen came over.

[Bobby Bones]

Pippen came over late. No, late, but. But not the first year. But he did come over.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And then Bonzi Wells.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I know I'd mentioned that. I was watching that, but I finished. I finished. I liked it.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I thought it was enjoyable.

[Bobby Bones]

Three and a half out of five. Cities of Portland. I'm glad I watched it.

[Kevin]

Cities of Portland.

[Bobby Bones]

At the beginning, it's like Portland City of counterculture and white people. And then it's like Rashid Wallace, like, basketball, playing cool black guys. And then like, it didn't really mix.

[Kevin]

Rashida's funny. He is still the same old, same guy. When they're interviewing and he's like, I'm not apologizing for. I didn't do anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Does he still have the record for most text in a season? He has to, because that was one of it. He was like 38 or something. There was one point they showed the referee just hit him up for looking at him funny. He didn't even do anything. He just looked at. Teed him up.

[Eddie]

That's funny.

[Kevin]

If there's 41.

[Bobby Bones]

If there's nothing else on and you're not going to jump into a series and you want some kind of sports. Because the good thing is These documentaries aren't two hours.

[Brian Jones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

What are we looking at here?

[Bobby Bones]

One just one 90 minutes max.

[Eddie]

Okay, cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Was this Untold?

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

On the untold.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I watched that other untold last week.

[Kevin]

Yeah, the chess one.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, that one.

[Kevin]

The chess.

[Bobby Bones]

When we talked about that one, that was really good. Yeah, I watched that one.

[Kevin]

That's definitely better.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you watched Montreal Expos? The death of the Montreal Expos?

[Kevin]

No, that's another one.

[Eddie]

Definitely before your time.

[Bobby Bones]

They left in 98 or 99 or 2000.

[Kevin]

I do remember them. I mean, I was alive when they were still here.

[Eddie]

It was just that team that you just forgot about.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, they were Canadian. They were in the NLH with the Cubs. So we were always battling them. So I had a lot of memories of the Expos, but it was how, you know, there were two teams in Canada, the Expos and the Blue Jays. Montreal is definitely up higher. It's definitely more Canadian. There are so many French speaking people in the documentary. They overdub a lot of them speaking French and how important that team was to that town and how they're running out of money because they didn't have money. Like American. Like a single person with all this money. And the team ended up going to be. Do you know what team they ended up being?

[Eddie]

The Expos or the Tampa Bay? Give me a hint.

[Bobby Bones]

The Nationals.

[Eddie]

Oh, the Washington Nationals.

[Bobby Bones]

There you go.

[Eddie]

Thanks for the hint.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you're welcome. If my hand was a mascot yet he gets the city. Kind of boring. Unless, like, you're really into baseball from the 80s and 90s because it's business. Very much so. And it's about who owned it. So this American guy goes up and is like, oh, give 75 million bucks. I'll be part owner. And then it looks like slowly he just kind of took over because they needed more and more money. So they think he set it up for them to go and move a team to him. But he ended up leaving him and his stepson ended up going to run and buying the Marlins when that team launched. And then they. Later all the owners own the Expos and then they move that team to D.C. washington. But we've had the stepson on our show. Yeah, because he's a baseball guy. He was the. We've had him on because he. Then he was a GM of the Marlins as well. Yeah, look up general manager of Marlins and Expos. Expos have a really cool logo.

[Eddie]

Yeah. What was it? It was like a L something LB or like.

[Bobby Bones]

It was letters. Right. Like an M for Montreal.

[Eddie]

But I never could understand what it was. But because they were like Letters.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it was one. I think it's one. M has three colors.

[Eddie]

Oh, man. I never even realized that I need

[Bobby Bones]

to look at it again.

[Eddie]

I did see them, though, one time play the Astros. My dad took us.

[Bobby Bones]

Imagine, though, you have to go up to Montreal. That's just a long trip.

[Eddie]

You know, we saw them in Houston.

[Bobby Bones]

I know, but I'm saying if you're you traveling across.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it's a long.

[Bobby Bones]

Probably easily the furthest up north. What do you see?

[Kevin]

Skip Schumacher, Don Mattingly, Dan Jennings, Mike Redmond, Ozzy Guillen.

[Bobby Bones]

Nah.

[Kevin]

We didn't have Aussie down, did we?

[Bobby Bones]

Nah, I'll find it. Those were all what he was on. He was sitting in his room at his, like, with his microphone out, all the baseballs behind him. Maybe he was like the president of the Marlins.

[Kevin]

Oh, hold on.

[Bobby Bones]

I can ask Chad.

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[Eddie]

See ask chatgpt. He did whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, I got a question for you. So I was watching on Netflix the show, the documentary about the Montreal Expos, the death of the Montreal Expos, and it talks about Lauria, who is the owner, and he brings in a stepson who's running the team, and they end up going down to the Marlins. Can you give me that stepson's name? The stepson you're thinking of is David Sampson. He played a prominent role in the ownership and management of the Expos and later became president of Florida, now Miami Marlins, after the team moved hands. Man, you know what he's been on?

[Kevin]

Yeah, I remember this guy.

[Eddie]

I hate on chat GPT or AI. But that's amazing, the fact that you just talk to your phone like that and. And she didn't even skip a beat. She told you who it was.

[Kevin]

That was a dude.

[Eddie]

Nah, that's a girl.

[Bobby Bones]

We have this debate a lot. I think it's a girl, too. She said nothing. She says her voice is more feminine, but she won't commit.

[Eddie]

She will not commit until you.

[Bobby Bones]

But you're not the only person that says that.

[Kevin]

I've heard you guys talk about a little bit on the, on the show. You hear. But I've always heard a dude.

[Eddie]

Interesting. Yeah, I hear a woman, but, you

[Bobby Bones]

know, I hear feminine.

[Eddie]

A strong woman with short hair.

[Bobby Bones]

Lots of testosterone.

[Brian Jones]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Eddie]

Maybe. Maybe a few tattoos.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Possibly likes other women.

[Eddie]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So I watched that. I. I give that. If you're a hardcore baseball fan, I'll give it three or five. But for you guys, I wouldn't encourage

[Eddie]

you to watch it. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Okay, I probably. I saw the thumbnail, didn't even think about clicking on it. The one I do want to watch is Rory Masters. I don't know what. I really don't even know what it's about. I know it's the story of him kind of climbing to the Masters, but it was released right after he won this year.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So it must have been out last year.

[Eddie]

So I guess it's all about last year, but it took me a year to release that. Okay. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I don't think they finished.

[Brian Jones]

It's.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, even whenever the NFL does Hard Knocks, it takes a few days.

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[Eddie]

Dude, they spit that one out fast, though.

[Bobby Bones]

I think they're throwing it up that day. Whenever we load a Bobby Cast up, It takes us 24 hours.

[Eddie]

Really? Oh, for Netflix?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah. They basically have to do a Bobby Cast about that story and load it right up.

[Eddie]

But what's cool. I did start watching it. Like, I watched, like, the first 10 minutes of it, but it's cool. What scene? Rory, you know, when he first started, and he looked like. He looked like a child. And I remember those days. I remember him playing, you know, like the. The British Open, and he looked like such a kid because he was like, what, 17 years old or whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Eddie]

Man, that was crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

How are you betting on golf then?

[Eddie]

Oh, I wasn't. Nah, that's when I would just watch the majors.

[Bobby Bones]

I got a bunch of money in my DraftKings account from winning Rory the Masters, Remember? I bet on that. Oh, yeah, it's. But I. There's nothing to bet on right now.

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[Bobby Bones]

out now he's out so bad. Dude that sucks with us purse because is it normal concussion protocol around 8 days if he goes in but now

[Kevin]

there is it it's it's not good.

[Eddie]

Oh that is not good. And they and they had they were winning the game until the very end. Then they lost but and I think

[Bobby Bones]

they're the only team that could beat the Thunder.

[Eddie]

Yes. I mean, dude, Wimby is. And I love the Spurs. I'm a Spurs fan. And the team is good. There are some good players in that team. Castle's awesome. Champagne, whatever. They're awesome. But Wemby carries that team.

[Bobby Bones]

Like Wendy's the best player in the NBA.

[Eddie]

Yeah, he carries that team.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Wemby is top three player in the NBA, but will be the best player in the NBA for a long time to come.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Can't say he's the best player in the NBA because, you know who is?

[Eddie]

LeBron.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. Although he's playing good.

[Eddie]

I mean, LeBron's awesome, but he's not the best player.

[Bobby Bones]

I say LeBron's top 25 right now. Yeah, but he's the number three in the Lakers right now, Luca. But Luke is top three.

[Eddie]

Oh, you're waiting for me to answer.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's another.

[Kevin]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin]

It's between two.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Yeah. I. I put Shay it to sga. Okay.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say Yokich.

[Bobby Bones]

I put Yogic at one.

[Kevin]

I agree.

[Bobby Bones]

Here is. I'm not a casual, but I'm not gonna act like I'm a freaking Bill sentence. Okay. But I would go in my mind Jokic at 1, SGA at 2, Wimby at 3.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's what I would say.

[Bobby Bones]

Because 3 and 4 could be 3 and 3, 3B. But at Luca.

[Eddie]

Luca.

[Bobby Bones]

Luca and Wimby. Yeah, but look at. Look at those four people. And then you know who five is in my mind?

[Kevin]

Jason Tatum.

[Bobby Bones]

Six. I probably put Tatum at, like, six or seven.

[Kevin]

Okay, I'll respect that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Before I was gonna make a point here. You know, five is on mine.

[Kevin]

Giannis.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's five all. None of them American.

[Eddie]

I know, I know. Hey, how's. By the way, how's your. How's your basketball team going? Did you buy the basketball team?

[Bobby Bones]

Sold. Sold it back.

[Kevin]

You did?

[Bobby Bones]

Quickly. They were moving again. They're moving because those European basketball teams. Italian ones. So we bought a part. Well, I bought a part of it. We didn't own the own.

[Eddie]

I know, but it sounds so cool.

[Bobby Bones]

I know.

[Eddie]

It has your basketball team.

[Bobby Bones]

And then they were moving again, and they were like, hey, you can give us some more money to move, or we can actually sell your part and make a little bit. We made a little bit of money off of it.

[Eddie]

There we go.

[Bobby Bones]

It was very br.

[Brian Jones]

Nice.

[Bobby Bones]

But we owned an Italian basketball team for, like, eight months.

[Eddie]

That's on Your resume.

[Bobby Bones]

Former owner. I still own a pickle.

[Kevin]

I want to see your resume.

[Eddie]

I know your resume's got to be crazy.

[Kevin]

Like, how do you condense his resume to what a page and a half is?

[Eddie]

You know what you should do?

[Bobby Bones]

Single page.

[Kevin]

Single page. Ideally.

[Bobby Bones]

That wouldn't make my resume, though.

[Kevin]

I know.

[Brian Jones]

That's what I'm saying.

[Eddie]

Like, that wouldn't even be. You should ask AI to make you a resume. Like, if you're applying for a job, a real resume, where it says your name and your address and everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I would let.

[Kevin]

Yeah, that would be the top.

[Bobby Bones]

I've had such a Forrest Gump, like, career, just in general, meaning I've done a little bit of everything until I've, like, felt fulfilled by it and gone. Okay. It's like when he runs until he stops running and turns around.

[Eddie]

I'm tired.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like me doing stand up. Did it for three or four years. Did a special. I was like, I'm good.

[Eddie]

Yeah, awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I have the skill set now, and it's. I'll be very, very rusty. But if I'm ever, like, just thrown on a stage and it's like, hey, can you do 10 minutes? I have the confidence that I can go do 10 minutes, 15 minutes. If you give me enough time, I can do an hour. But I'm. But, like, that's one. I mean, Eddie and I did Reggie. Idiots. We did that for years.

[Eddie]

We did for a long time.

[Bobby Bones]

And now we can go back into the bag occasionally and, like, we do the Cruise, basically, or the Million Dollar show, which we haven't. We didn't do this year because we're having a baby, but, like, we did that hardcore. We were playing massive festivals as, like, the third or fourth big spot. You guys played Stagecoach?

[Eddie]

Yeah, we played Stagecoach.

[Bobby Bones]

We played Faster Horses. We played at night sometimes in these massive festivals.

[Eddie]

Kevin. I think one year we did 60 some dates. Really, Like a year.

[Kevin]

You guys are, like, legit touring.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, we would sell so many tickets that the problem was we weren't as good as the tickets we were selling to, like, people who didn't know who we were. If you came to our show and you knew us, you had a great time. We would do theaters and outdoor venues and fairs and people would come. But when we played a festival, we'd be put as, like, fourth on the lineup of, like, 12. So it'd be getting close to dark, and everybody's there at that point waiting for the headliner, and we'd go on. It's why it made us wear really dopey outfits. So people knew we didn't take ourselves seriously. But we sold so many tickets that promoters would just put us in these spots based on ticket sales. Like, Old Dominion would play before us. Before us.

[Kevin]

Shut up.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Promise it was. And we felt terrible.

[Bobby Bones]

We'd apologize.

[Eddie]

We were just like, dude, we're sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

We're so sorry. We know. Seriously, we're not joking.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so we would go out and people would just be like, what is even happening?

[Kevin]

I remember my first year here working on the radio show. And you guys opened for Garth that year.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, in Arkansas. Yeah.

[Kevin]

And I didn't know.

[Bobby Bones]

Hold on. We were main support. There were two openers before us.

[Eddie]

Main support for Garth Brooks at the

[Bobby Bones]

football stadium with 100,000 people there.

[Kevin]

And I remember, like, thinking. Because obviously we didn't know each other like we do now. And I was like, how the heck did they land that?

[Bobby Bones]

I know. So we sold so many tickets.

[Brian Jones]

No disrespect.

[Bobby Bones]

Because now what? We deserve some. Because it just started off as just comedy, Eddie and I. And then we had to get a band because people were, like, offering us festival spots. And then we just kept selling so many tickets. We. The shows got bigger and we got better. But we wished to have been playing those spots. But it was weird for us to go, no, we don't want to play in one of the headliner spots. Put us, like, earlier. So we. We don't really play shows anymore. Life. Life. But we did that. Like, I've written three books, but I don't even think about that as part of my life because I wrote two that took forever.

[Eddie]

Big deal. You're an author.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Two freaking bestsellers.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think about that.

[Kevin]

Really.

[Bobby Bones]

It's not part.

[Kevin]

That's what I'm trying to think. Like, whoa.

[Brian Jones]

Whoa.

[Eddie]

Then there's Dancing with the stars.

[Bobby Bones]

American at 2 show at Breaking Bobby Bones. Snake in the Grass. It's just been a bizarre career.

[Kevin]

Like Eddie, if you. You've known him the longest.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

If you were to make a resume for him and you're his manager, whatever his business, anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Number one.

[Eddie]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Bobby. Number one is by far.

[Eddie]

Because he's in the hall of Fame.

[Kevin]

That's true.

[Bobby Bones]

Youngest ever inducted in the Radio hall of Fame.

[Kevin]

That is true. Okay. Number two, Eddie. We get. He gets three things.

[Eddie]

What.

[Kevin]

What are the two things?

[Eddie]

Are you putting on number two, Man? I think I would do. I would do the books. Just because you're a New York Times bestseller.

[Bobby Bones]

Two time New York Times bestseller.

[Eddie]

Huge deal. Yeah, that'd be number two for me. Okay.

[Kevin]

One more.

[Eddie]

And then I'd have to do Dancing with the Stars Champion.

[Bobby Bones]

I would also do that as three.

[Kevin]

Nice.

[Eddie]

Because that's. That's.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, that didn't take the longest, but that's like a. There's only like 30 of us.

[Eddie]

That's what I was gonna ask. How many? 30.

[Bobby Bones]

Something like 32. Whatever it is. How many seasons there are.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but one of the Big deal, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. That's crazy. Thinking back, I don't know how to do that.

[Eddie]

And then, you know, at the bottom of the resume, you put awards.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, what are the awards?

[Eddie]

I mean, is that an award or is that.

[Bobby Bones]

I wouldn't put that as awards.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

It'd be. It's a weird career. It feels weird just sitting here, just. But do you ever glaze myself.

[Eddie]

No, it's not glazing. Do you ever sit there and just look back at what you've done?

[Bobby Bones]

Sometimes it's the weird stuff. I'm telling you. What's the. One of the coolest things to me is that championship belt that I have in the studio in the Bobby cast studio when I won the MVP for the celebrity softball tournament. Yeah, that's cool. That was crazy because that was like two hours I'm playing against real athletes. I mean, to DEZ Bryant, the. What are those guys that do all the trick shots? Dude, perfect's there. All these guys. And like, I wanted. There were female professional players. Jenny Finch. And I won MVP because of how I hit and how I played in the field like that. To me, that's so cool, because that was one night I wasn't expecting. All of it was on. And I don't know.

[Eddie]

That's the cool thing is we were there for that. You know, like, Kevin doesn't really get to experience a lot of that stuff, but we were there for that. And they put us in this suite, you know, to like.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eddie]

And we're.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I was there.

[Eddie]

You went, yeah, yeah, he was there.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I thought. He didn't go. I was like.

[Eddie]

I'm saying, he doesn't get to do a lot of stuff like that. But he was there for that.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And we're in this suite and we're drinking beer, eating, like, chicken fingers and popcorn, and you're just going off. And we're like, what is happening? He is just going off in this game, dude. We're yelling and screaming.

[Kevin]

Reed was there. I don't know. Mike, were you there, too?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, it was crazy.

[Kevin]

Everyone's like, who are these crazy fans?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm talking about. I got a single hit one off the fence, making diving catches.

[Eddie]

Kevin, you remember we looked at each other and we were like, this dude's going to win mvp.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Like the third inning, we're like, if this doesn't stop, I think he's going to win mvp.

[Eddie]

He's going to win mvp.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy. I like to think of myself as, like, when the lights come on, I'm able to, like, turn it up a notch. But I'm also not someone who goes, I'm only good when the lights come on. I think you really got to put in the work. And I went and freaking played softball for a month and a half to just get back at it. Like, I was going out constantly, like, doing the work. Yeah. That's like, little stuff like, that's crazy to me.

[Eddie]

You got to put that on your resume.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. I don't. Nobody cares. But I like that belt because that's.

[Kevin]

That's a little cliff note or.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So it's been a weird career.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Very, very.

[Kevin]

I mean, just in the five years I've been here, you've done, we've done. But watching you, obviously, with your face is the one that does it all. It's just a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

But there's been stuff that. There's been a hundred things that haven't worked, you know? You know, Harper, you just gotta keep your freaking line in the water.

[Kevin]

We can make a potential resume of

[Bobby Bones]

things that almost work.

[Kevin]

Almost work.

[Eddie]

Hey, when do we start working on a documentary?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm good.

[Brian Jones]

Right before you die.

[Eddie]

You want me to do it?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm good. Nobody cares.

[Eddie]

I produce it.

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[Eddie]

But we gotta have drama in there somewhere. Like, we get. We need good teasers. Like. Like, I hit rock bottom and then it's like you by the toilet.

[Bobby Bones]

I did hit rock bottom when I was on freaking sleeping pills and I couldn't fucking. I remember not even putting, like, pumping gas in my car, driving off with the thing in it. The.

[Kevin]

Really.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I remember that. Oh, yeah.

[Kevin]

Crawling up the stairs.

[Bobby Bones]

I got so bad on sleeping pills. I don't remember weeks at a time. I couldn't sleep ever. So I just started taking sleeping pills. My doctor was like, we've tried everything. I was sick all the time because I. I was having hardcore ptsd, got on. And then when I stopped taking them cold turkey, I. I would open my eyes and was all black and I couldn't see. Any. I couldn't see anything because. Because I was going through such. Such withdrawals. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Eddie]

Okay, that's the teaser.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that rock bottom?

[Eddie]

That's the teaser. Okay, that'll be in the trailer when you hover over the thumbnail.

[Bobby Bones]

I did go to, like, a camp for a while because I, like, had no purpose in my life other than work eight hours a day with a therapist for a week.

[Kevin]

Ayahuasca?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I wish it was much closer. It was down the road.

[Eddie]

Hey, dude ranch.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Brian Jones]

Hey, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we're gonna talk about Brian Jones in just a second. Yeah. Here we go.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

to Brian, just so everybody knows, Brian and I. I didn't know if Brian would remember me. I remembered him, but we were both in Austin and he was working on 1300 the Zone and I was doing mornings before I started syndicating my own show just in Austin. We'd see each other all the time and it was like, what up? We were just two people. Now he's obviously big TV guy and so. But we have for a couple years. I see Brian all the time. Mike. Mike D. Ran the board for them. Yeah, way back in the day.

[Kevin]

Oh, wait, Mike ran the board for them?

[Bobby Bones]

Ran the board for them?

[Brian Jones]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

He would buy me lunch all the time.

[Kevin]

That's sweet.

[Eddie]

That's really cool.

[Kevin]

I heard Eddie mention something, but I thought he was saying Brian ran his own board.

[Eddie]

No, no, no, Mike.

[Kevin]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever know the story about Ray and I, how I found Ray?

[Kevin]

But when you phrase it like that, I want to hear it.

[Eddie]

That'll be in the documentary. Don't worry.

[Bobby Bones]

They came to me and they were like, hey, you wanna. We need some people to cover sports. You like sports? Do you wanna do some sports? And I Was like, sure, I'll do anything. And so they're like, hey, third time to the Zone. Why don't you do like this afternoon? That afternoon. I was like, cool. They were. I was like, who's gonna produce me? He's like, well, you can have any of these other ones. Or we have this new guy. And I was like, I'll take the new guy. Cause he doesn't. He's already built into his ways. That's freaking Ray. Ray was an intern at 1300 the Zone. And so Ray produced my first ever sports. It's not even, I mean, shows, but I was doing fill in work.

[Kevin]

Was it like live radio or. Oh, nice. That wasn't the one with Roddick, was it?

[Bobby Bones]

No, it later turned into that.

[Kevin]

Okay, later.

[Bobby Bones]

That was like Fox Sports National.

[Eddie]

Do you remember that one?

[Kevin]

No. But when I left Fox and I told people I was getting hired on here, like, oh, Bobby used to do a show through us or in LA or something like that. They were just telling me all that with Roddick on the weekends or something.

[Bobby Bones]

Andy and I did a show for a couple years, then he quit. And so then I just did it by myself for about a year. And then I was touring, having to go to like a studio in Tuscaloosa and do the show nationally. I was like, man, I can't do this anymore. Like, I'm touring and doing sports and opening for Garth. Opening for. Nah, that's way.

[Kevin]

Okay, okay.

[Eddie]

We weren't there yet.

[Bobby Bones]

Here he is, the great Brian Jones, former Texas Longhorns linebacker, former NFL player. I see him on TV basically every single week. A great looking guy. I've watched this guy's. His beard just like create this whole new chiseled version of himself. He's Brian Jones. Good to see you,

[Brian Jones]

my man. Bobby Bones. What's up, buddy?

[Bobby Bones]

Whenever I heard you were coming on, I got a little flutter in my belly. I listen, it's so cool to see.

[Brian Jones]

When I saw you on my list, I said, that's my dude from way, way, way back in the day.

[Bobby Bones]

Way back in the day. It's so cool to see your success, man. Your suits get more expensive every week, it looks like.

[Brian Jones]

I'm glad they're free.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, so what kind of budget do you get? A clothing budget do you get with cbs? They give you a one.

[Brian Jones]

I've got a deal with Taylor Byrd, man. And they threw some close family friends way back in the day. We did a bartering deal and it just endured over the years. So CBS has nothing to do with it other than making sure my folks at Taylor Bird get a mention on each and every show.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you look great, so I'll start with that. You look great every week. I'm always looking at. It's like back in the day, like, what's Vanna White wearing? I'm always, what's Brian Jones wearing? That's what it's like.

[Brian Jones]

Well, hey, man, I appreciate you and congrats on all your success. As I said a moment ago, remember those days over at K Vet and all of us were trying to find our traction and find our way and you've done it successfully, man. So kudos to you.

[Bobby Bones]

I appreciate that. Let's talk some ball for a second. So look, I'm from Arkansas and I love Austin, one of my favorite cities in the world. I am a Longhorn hater because I grew up in Arkansas. Like old Southwest Conference days, right. And I'm.

[Brian Jones]

You have to be. Right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. And I'm surrounded by Longhorn Die Hards on this show. So is. How good is Texas going to be next year with Arch?

[Brian Jones]

Oh, man, I thought we were going to talk to draft. We are, we are. Start my college ball prep until June. I tell all my closest friends, don't ask me a damn thing about college ball until July.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm not asking you. I'm asking you about Texas specifically. You got the helmet right behind you. You're like the guy. I don't care.

[Brian Jones]

I don't know a damn thing about Texas right now.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Brian Jones]

They just wrapped up spring ball.

[Bobby Bones]

Fair enough.

[Brian Jones]

And I was in Africa, so I didn't get to see any of that. We had a big long burn reunion. I missed all that good stuff. So ask me in July. But they gonna be good because Arts was one of the best in the business under center those last four or five ball games. They're gonna be just fine. And I'll end with this. This with Cam coming over, the wide receiver coming over from. From Auburn. And damn it, I'm forgetting his last name. See, look how you get me in trouble already. I'm telling you, along with that Jeremiah Smith, we're gonna have one of the best receivers in all the college ball.

[Bobby Bones]

You said you weren't gonna answer. Then you answered though, so I appreciate that.

[Brian Jones]

Well, I got, I got. I gotta help my boy out now. You know, when you ask, you say jump, I say, how high, Bobby?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, speaking of receivers, generally speaking with the draft, it feels like this is a pretty good receiver. Draft your thoughts on that.

[Brian Jones]

Yes, I agree. And you know, everyone Here the last couple days been talking about the Jordan Tyson kid at Arizona State. He is phenomenal. Yes. He's had some lingering injury issues, the hamstring. He seems to have checked that box and everyone is not as concerned there. He's ideal. My guy though is Makai Lemon out of usc. Oh my goodness. You turn on the tape just watching him last year, you talking about being able to box defenders out, being able to contort his body. This guy catches more contested footballs than anyone I've seen in a long, long time. And you know, he's not one of these six, five, six, six guys. He's just very athletic. He knows how to utilize his body and space. He knows how to get separation and he ain't scared. He kind of reminds me of Nakua there with the Rams. The way he can just position his body, give quarterbacks a target and the confidence quarterbacks will have throwing to him because they know he's going to fight. That's my guy.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like just me, a layman's dude looking at it. It's receivers and edge. I feel like it's a pretty strong edge draft too. You know, a couple of these guys going to go real early. If you, if who's the first edge you would take?

[Brian Jones]

It's going to be Bailey, no doubt. It's going to be this guy. He goes out there, you know, he ain't fancy, no gloves, no wristbands, anything. He just has that money step though. He gets off the ball and he gets to quarterbacks. He can dip, he can rip, he can run that hoop they put all those edge guys through. It's going to be David Bailey will be the first second behind him. I got Reuben Bain. Now people are pointing to his short arms and, and his height being lacking. But look throughout the history, you know, recent history of Dwight Freeney, Stan with the Colts, Robert Mathis, you know, Freeney, six time Pro Bowler or something like that. And Mathis has even more sacks than Freeney had. So both of those guys were beneath that. That six three mark, that's where Bane is. And Bane is such a violent football player and he's got that first step too. People say he's not as athletic. Man, you watch him especially in the big ball games. Ohio State, that national title game versus Indiana, this guy has been. And he can set the edge and be a run stopper and you can also slide him inside. Play some three technique when you want to do some nickel stuff in case you have even better pass rushes you can place out there.

[Bobby Bones]

I think with Bane, it's, you know, he has arms shorter than 32 inches and, you know, so now this is what. It's always something. It's like a. Always a hands too small. But like Bane.

[Brian Jones]

No, Bobby, get this. You know what they're saying about it? They're saying, oh, he doesn't have ankle flexion. What the fudge does that mean? They just pick out of the air. What ankle flexion? Come on, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Is this other teams trying to knock him down in the draft. Like. Like enough negativity gets out, maybe he falls.

[Brian Jones]

That's what happens every year. You know, if there's a guy you covet, you're going to put something out there in the ether that will tear him down and hopefully throw everybody else off his sc. I think that's exactly what's occurring. But once again, turn on the tape and it speaks for his itself. I mean, this guy had a big interception in the early ball game versus Notre Dame. He showed up and showed out in all the games at the end of the season, that playoff game versus Texas A and M. Go turn that film off. Tell me what you see. Ain't a damn thing wrong with his ankles in there. His arms weren't too sharp to get after their quarterback and their running backs. In that affair, a lot of folks

[Bobby Bones]

say Jeremiah loves the best overall player, but at that position, running back, it's rare that Jameer Gibbs got drafted top 10. Like, it's rare, right? But how do you feel about Jeremiah Love? Like, who does he comp as far as who's in the NFL?

[Brian Jones]

Now, listen, he's phenomenal, this guy. I was speaking to a good friend who's a longtime NFL coach, and he said, yeah, he's number one by far. He is a great athlete. He's so versatile. You can throw the ball to him, of course, hand it off to him. And he's got six spin move hops, all that he can play hurt. You know, two years ago in the playoffs, he's got a knee brace on and he's still a force to be reckoned with. As far as comps, you mentioned Ja' Marr Gibbs. He has that type of electricity in his ball game, you know, then Price is just as good. You know, they didn't throw the ball as much to him because he didn't get as many touches as Love. But I think those are the two best backs in this draft and they were teammates. You're there in Price and Jeremiah Love. But I love what love brings to the table.

[Bobby Bones]

Like he's averaging over 10 yards of reception, which is pretty wild for a running back to, because you also have to trust the running back to get downfield. Right. That's just not a bunch of flare passes that you're throwing the ball to.

[Brian Jones]

But it's like, no, no, no. You want to get him in space. Yeah, those are the type of guys you want to get out in space and just let them do what they do. And as they always tell those, those kick returners and punters make the first guy miss, we got the rest. Well, he's going to make the first two, three guys miss. That's how electric and how, how athletic this young man is.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a bit of a luxury though to draft a running back, right, if you have a lot of needs. Like, do you jump on a running back? Even if he's transcendent, he's got to be special.

[Brian Jones]

If he's as special as Jeremiah Love, yes, you jump on it. In this day and age, you're correct, man. We've seen the interest in those guys recede somewhat and people think you can get a lot of value later. You know, I look at Ashton Genty a year ago and he goes to a team with no O line. I mean, they couldn't block ice last year there with the Raiders. And this guy is a special talent. He's transcendent. And if they get an O line and of course they're going to pick Mendoza. Now you got a running game if you can find an O line. You got a pro style quarterback who is a pro in every sense of the word as far as how he attacks his craft. If you can get some protection for that one, two punch, they're going to be good. But Love is one of those guys, man. I think he's worthy of a top five pick.

[Bobby Bones]

You got a bunch of teams now with two picks in the first round. Jets, the Giants just, they just the Dexter trade with Cincinnati, the Cowboys. I was seeing the Cowboys thinking about, you know, packaging up. If you're the Cowboys, what are you trying to do?

[Kevin]

Wow.

[Brian Jones]

You know, I, I, I, I love what they did in free agency. Going to get Rashawn Gary. That helps. You know, of course they got the big fella they traded for from the jets whose name is escaping me, former Alabama Williams.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Quinn Williams.

[Brian Jones]

Quentin Williams. Thank you, sir. See, I knew you come to my aid. I think they need to find a backer. They lost a couple guys there. Mary's gone. Wilson kid is gone. So I know they're going to look at at linebacker, maybe they go for another edge guy, you know, maybe Bane's there, we, we'll see. Or do they move up to take him? But linebacker, there's some good value there. After Sonny Styles, you know, everyone looks at Jacob Rodriguez out of Texas Tech. He's another guy that may not have the measurables you want. You know, I think he goes about 6ft 61 but he's always around the ball. He is a gamer. He had like six or seven for fumbles. He's got interceptions. He's everywhere on the football field. I like C.J. allen, the kid out of Georgia as well. He was all American last year, the last three seasons, you know, he's a guy that he could count on. He's a leader on that field, lining guys up and a sideline to sideline player.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, a couple of those defensive guys like Arvo Reese and Sonny Styles both are guys that you'd probably like to have on your team if you're looking to like build defensively.

[Brian Jones]

Oh, Sonny Styles, Arvo Reese, Caleb Downs and they've had the benefit now of playing pro style defense and one that can be fairly complex with Matt Patricia taken over there at Ohio State. So those guys, they learned that system, they went out and played it to perfection. Historical numbers on the defensive side of the ball as far as what they allowed to opposing offenses and you can't go wrong with them. Sonny Styles former safety so you know he's going to be good in cover coverage. He's got the football iq. Same with Arville Reese. I think Reese, you know, he's still gonna need some development as far as being that bonafide edge guy. But what I would do with his athleticism, man, cover everybody up and just let him hunt. That's the type of talent and speed he possesses.

[Bobby Bones]

You mentioned Caleb Downs earlier and they're treating safety a bit like they treat running back like you get that after you've got everything else. But he's so elite. Like what do you think of Caleb Downs?

[Brian Jones]

Yeah, he's one of those guys you can put in the box. You know Dylan Thienaman, the former Purdue Boilermaker who transferred to Oregon. The same guys that can stick, you can stick them down there in the box and they're going to be great against the opposing run game, but they're as adept, you know, being back there playing center field and covering ground. And so I think he's one of those guys that he's a first rounder because he's another pros pro the way he goes about his business, Bob. I got a chance to interview him last year at the Big Ten media days, and I sat there just in bewilderment, listening to this cat, like, man, you sound like you about 30 and you've been in the league 10 years. So that's how he goes about his business. That's how he carries himself. And he's authentic and genuine, and he loves the game. And he got coached by one of the better defensive coaches in all our game, and that was Nick Saban, the one year he played for Coach Saban there at Alabama and led him in tackles as a true freshman.

[Bobby Bones]

I know you're doing some work with Barry, which is a CTE treatment drug. How did you get involved in that?

[Brian Jones]

Well, through a mutual friend partnered me with Dr. Christina Gavignano. She's been doing yeoman's work in this space, trying to find an elixir, if you will, the holy grail for head trauma and specifically cte. And she thinks she may have done it with conducting studies. Now, baricitamine is the drug that she developed, and she thinks it could be the holy grail for treating CTE and head trauma. So I partnered with her. We did a bevy of interviews during Radio Row and the super bowl out in San Francisco. And we're continuing, continuing to promote the studies, the medical studies, and baricitamin, Baricitam, excuse me. And all the work she's doing. So we're holding out hope, man, that this could be some type of drug that can mitigate all the things that players are dealing with, you know, from inflammation and brain injuries and, you know, even those outside of sports and Parkinson and Alzheimer's. So that's why we're out here discussing these studies and this drug, because Dr. Gavignano thinks we have embarked on the key driver, which is inflammation, which is getting in the way of treating these specific injuries. So hopefully we're going down the right path and we realize some good gains here shortly.

[Bobby Bones]

I wanted to talk to you about one more thing. I'm rarely on Facebook, but I got, for some reason, it was logged into my phone. I'm on Instagram. Like, I'm not too good for social media. I'm on Instagram, TikTok. I'm on all of them, except, really, Facebook. I got on Facebook and I hit it, and then it said, hey, you should be friends with. And it pulls up people that you probably. You have friends that are friends with. And it said Mack Brown. And I was like, you know, I don't Know Coach Brown, but. So I hit. Why not hit? Request. He accepted my request. Now I haven't messaged Coach Brown at all. So you and Coach Brown talk at all?

[Brian Jones]

Yes, I saw Coach Brown a couple months ago. He and I both were at a charitable event for Derek Johnson, one of his former players. And Derrick was there when I was sideline reporter for ut. And I actually hosted Mack Brown's TV show when he was a head coach here at Texas. So, yes, I see him at different spots on the golf course, Utah golf course, here in Austin. I see him at charity events and things of that nature. Since he's retired, he's moved back here. Goes back and forth between here and North Carolina.

[Bobby Bones]

You like that guy?

[Brian Jones]

Coach Brown and I have had an interesting relationship over the last couple of decades. You know, when I was sideline reporter and doing radio in Austin, we butted heads a few times. But, you know, he and I have buried the hatchet and we get along just fine.

[Bobby Bones]

Good. Okay, I hear you. I hear what you're saying there. You did a good job saying that. I like that.

[Brian Jones]

Hey, you got. Hey, man. Too old to be holding grudges, right? You gotta get on with your life. And Bruce Lee says, keep that peace. You make your peace by what you choose to give your energy to.

[Bobby Bones]

One final thing. Growing up in Lubbock, were the Longhorns kind of a bad word?

[Brian Jones]

Well, depends on who you were hanging out with. Yeah, listen, I would go to the Texas Tech games. We'd sit in the grass, and sometimes we were selling soda pop and popcorn, but we were doing more watching the game than that. And then we jump on the field and go get the sweaty wristbands. And I marched back with the Texas Tech band to their band hall. They were one of the finest bands in all of college football. So I'm surrounded by Red Raiders, of course, growing up in Lubbock, but I was always a Longhorn and just so happened a quarterback in safety from the rival high school in Lubbock, Jerry Gray, he attended ut, so I watched him play in high school, then watched him at ut. So I followed him his footsteps shortly thereafter. So. Yes, and, and, and. And Texas is still a bad word in love.

[Bobby Bones]

Good to see you. I'm. I'm super pumped for your success.

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[Bobby Bones]

You do a great job on television,

[Brian Jones]

so I appreciate you, my man. And the same goes for you. As I said earlier, you know, back in the day, we were both trying to find our traction in this business, and we've been blessed. And so hopefully it continues for you, my man.

[Bobby Bones]

You too, Brian. Good to see you. Hopefully I see you soon. See you, Brian.

[Brian Jones]

All right, buddy. Hook them.

[Kevin]

Nope.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

right, thanks to Brian. One thing before we go kickoff. Kevin has twins. And so have you guys had to hire a babysitter yet?

[Kevin]

Not yet, but we have to hire our first one next week because we're going to a wedding. No family. Our family doesn't live here. My side or her side. So we have to hire somebody.

[Eddie]

Right?

[Kevin]

And it's Eddie. You've probably been through this a couple times. It's like scary because you got to be able to trust somebody.

[Eddie]

So scary.

[Kevin]

If it's not somebody you know personally, then it's kind of like, okay, how am I going to be able to trust this person? So we did find somebody. It's my wife's friend's co worker who's a nurse. Okay, nurse is legit. But now I'm kind of in a dilemma. One, I have no idea what what they charge these days, but the biggest thing is I have twins. So I don't know if I should charge or give her double the rate. Time and a half, you know, what do you think I should.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you guys think I should do? What's two kids?

[Eddie]

It's two you kind of have to do. I wouldn't say double, but it would definitely be more than one kid. But, but honestly, anytime we've ever gotten a babysitter, like a new babysitter never met before, we always just hit them with a question like, what do you charge? And then usually they're kind of because they're younger and they're always just like, oh, no. You know, like anything's fine. 10, 12 bucks an hour.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a nurse, though.

[Eddie]

I know, but usually they Start low, and then you can make them feel better. Be like, you know what? We'll just do 15, and it's still a good price. That's usually what's happened with us. Okay, let them give you the price. They usually start low, and then you can kind of make yourself look a

[Kevin]

little better by you're negotiating with the babysitters.

[Eddie]

No, you kind of. No, you don't negotiate. You kind of just don't worry about it. We'll just give you 15 then. But let them start the price.

[Bobby Bones]

What if they started high, though?

[Eddie]

Yeah, we're good. Then that's what we'll pay.

[Bobby Bones]

All right. You haven't negotiated a price?

[Kevin]

Not yet. Meeting her this weekend, actually.

[Bobby Bones]

So then you say, hey, very excited about this. Super cool. You're a nurse. We have twins. Like, what's your rate to babysit? For twins, it may literally be 25, 30 bucks an hour. How many hours are you gone?

[Kevin]

Probably five, six.

[Eddie]

Yeah, man.

[Bobby Bones]

I think what's great about that is one, it is two, so it's gonna be difficult for them. But if it's a nurse, that's so much peace of mind, that good work. You're paying for peace of mind if you're by yourself.

[Kevin]

Especially, like, I wouldn't feel as bad if there's two people, but one person with two babies is super hard. And we both know that, my wife and I, so. But obviously her being a nurse is, like, literally what she does for a living, so we'll see what she says.

[Eddie]

We had one one time that was, like, didn't really know her. And we said yes. And then she was like, hey, is it cool my boyfriend comes over and helps me watch the kids? We're like, no, no. And then so we had to cancel, like, the whole thing just because she was like, oh, okay, well, sorry, I won't be able to do it. But that's crazy that a babysitter would even think to ask that. She was probably 21, 22.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's older than I thought.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I was thinking, like, 16, 17.

[Bobby Bones]

Still young enough to ask a dumb question, but not young enough to actually have to cancel it because her stupid boyfriend can't come over.

[Kevin]

Do you have a go to?

[Eddie]

We do. Well, I mean, now it's my son. My oldest son can do it now, but for a long time, man, we were just going through babysitters because we have four boys, and every babysitter we would get would watch them for three or four hours and then ghost us. Like, we would never hear from them again, because it was so much work for them.

[Bobby Bones]

Does this person that you're hiring often babysit? Are they just doing a favor?

[Kevin]

Yeah. No, they also babysit on site.

[Eddie]

That's great.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Then you want to give them good rate. And if you can make them a little more. So if there's ever a you versus somebody else, they'll always pick you.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

If it's like the same time you both need somebody, you only trust this one person, you really want to somehow put yourself at the top of their list. When it's, oh, three options here, what do I do? And again, if it's a nurse, that's so valuable.

[Kevin]

I know, and that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, we got to build this relationship because it's hard to find one. But if we find one that we like and trust and as a nurse and the rate is good enough, and it's like, okay, it's worth the peace of mind alone for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

If you can afford it. Absolutely agree. But I feel like that with employees too. Meaning it's kind of weird with all you guys here, but none of you guys work for me full, full, full time. Like, you guys work for the company. But then my company also pays you guys to do different things. But I have full time employees. I overpay them all. I overpay them all because I want them to, one, feel valued. And two, if it's like prior, if they got a pig, another job is offered to them and it's like, huh, what am I gonna do here? I got. This one's offering me maybe even a little more money. But I do like this job, Bob, and he's overpaying me already and the vibe's good and we get to go to Oregon and watch football. And, you know, if you can afford it, always overpay your talent because it's so hard to replace it. Good talent. I say talent is just a person that can do something.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

If you can afford it.

[Eddie]

Is that 30, $30 an hour? Is that.

[Kevin]

That's what. Honestly, that was the exact number that.

[Eddie]

Does that sound crazy, though? Like, is that expensive?

[Kevin]

For you, for one, yes. For two, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. The two things that fat. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Eddie]

Factors in.

[Kevin]

One, I would be like, okay, 20 bucks.

[Bobby Bones]

10, 13 and a coupon.

[Kevin]

Buy one, get one free.

[Eddie]

When my. When my oldest son started babysitting, my youngest was like, so upset. He's like, we're not getting babysitters. Like, nah, I think we're done with babysitters. Like, why? Like, why? He's like, I like the babysitters.

[Bobby Bones]

I imagine you weren't hiring any dudes.

[Eddie]

They were all girls. And then I asked him like, okay, well, if we were to hire one, what would you want? He's like 20s, blonde. What is the dating app?

[Bobby Bones]

Sounds like if you were to ask Eddie, what would you want, he'd say the same thing.

[Eddie]

He's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, we are done. Thank you guys for being here. I think that'll do it. Eddie, blow that whistle.

[Eddie]

All right, all right.

[Bobby Bones]

Goodbye, everybody. Have a great day. We'll see you next week. Theme song written by Bobby Bones, that's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on Social at BrandonRay Music. You can follow the show on Instagram @BobbyBoneSports. Thanks to our clothes crew, co host at producer Eddie, segment producer Ickoff Kevin and executive producer Ike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles.

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[Bobby Bones]

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