25W: Why Everyone Should Have Mexican Friends + Michael Strahan on Growing Up in Germany & Flipping a 'Mean' Switch While Playing + The Biography of Rory McIlroy with Author Alan Shipnuck

Summary

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The Bobby Bones Show: 25W - Why Everyone Should Have Mexican Friends + Michael Strahan & Rory McIlroy Biography with Alan Shipnuck

Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show
Date: April 10, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones, with producer/co-hosts Eddie, Kevin (“Kickoff Kevin”), and others
Guests: Alan Shipnuck (golf journalist/biographer), audio segment with Michael Strahan

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of "25 Whistles" features a blend of comedic sports banter, personal stories, and in-depth interviews. The crew discuss why everyone should have Mexican friends, their competitive brisket plans, and delve into the intricacies of friendship and cultural traditions. The episode’s centerpiece is a wide-ranging interview with golf writer Alan Shipnuck about his new Rory McIlroy biography, followed by a compelling segment with NFL Hall of Famer and media icon Michael Strahan about his unique journey from Germany to football stardom and media success.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. The Value of Mexican Friendships (04:30 – 11:15)

• Personal Stories about Friendship and Culture

  • Bobby Bones reminisces about being the “token white guy” in a majority-Mexican friend group in Texas.
  • The crew discuss the loyalty, warmth, and competitiveness of their Mexican friends, particularly around food and grilling traditions.
  • “Mexicans rock. No doubt about it. Maybe the best they do. I’m telling you.” – Bobby Bones (10:28)
  • Cooking together—especially elaborate BBQs featuring tacos, brisket, and more—is viewed as a cornerstone of cultural bonding and competition.

• Friend Calls and Family Dynamics

  • Bobby describes his friend DJ, the rare person who calls just to chat with “no agenda.”
  • “He is the only person in my life that just calls me to talk… I really enjoy him as a person.” – Bobby Bones (06:28, 07:28)

• Self-Deprecating Humor around Ethnicity and Ranking “Best Friends”

  • The segment playfully pokes fun at “ranking” friends by ethnicity, always with a comic and appreciative tone.

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II. Food, Brisket Challenges, and Barbecue Traditions (11:16 – 19:17)

• Buying a Cow & Grill Competitions

  • Eddie organizes a “buy a cow” collective, which prompts debate about whether seeing your future dinner is a good idea.
  • “Tractor’s not living.” – Bobby Bones jokes about the emotional difference between buying a tractor and a cow (12:12).

• Monday Brisket-Off Plans

  • Friendly rivalry: Bobby gives the gang $75 each to buy brisket and sauce for a head-to-head cooking competition.
  • Plans for a two-round tasting: one with plain brisket, one with sauces (13:07).
  • Cultural note: Eddie and Kevin describe California-Mexican vs. Southern BBQ upbringings, and how styles differ across the U.S.

• Barbecuing as Cultural Experience

  • “It’s not just barbecuing. It’s a whole thing… it’s a culture.” – Eddie (10:08)
  • Bobby contrasts his childhood (Hamburger Helper and Manwich as staples) with the Texas BBQ culture he adopted as an adult (16:28).

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III. Rory McIlroy: The Biography—Interview with Alan Shipnuck (29:21 – 46:04)

Rory’s Personality, Popularity, and Authenticity

• Rory described as “very much… a crowd favorite” with “a humanity there that is very rare” among superstar athletes. (30:35–31:11)
  • “He just carries himself with a certain grace and a certain ease that is quite endearing.” – Alan Shipnuck (31:10)
• Shipnuck highlights Rory’s openness, emotional transparency, and acts of kindness to fellow golfers.

LIV Golf, Saudi Money, and Moral Integrity

• Rory’s staunch opposition to Saudi involvement in golf:
  • “He wanted to be on the right side of history… there’s a morality to this.” (32:26)
  • Shipnuck references Rory’s refusal of lucrative appearance fees, standing ethically even after the Khashoggi assassination.

The Masters and Rory’s Emotional Victory

• “It was monumental… The drama was so internal. He was fighting this battle with himself…” – Alan Shipnuck (34:56)
• Rory’s Masters win is depicted as more cathartic relief than pure joy, with his emotional journey resonating far beyond golf fans.
• “His face (after winning) [was] like a movie screen just playing out this lifetime of heartache and yearning and disappointment and… catharsis.” – Shipnuck (35:04)

Unique Masters Atmosphere

• The Masters’ phone ban creates a rare, peaceful vibe.
  • “It’s literally the only place on planet Earth where you can just get away from your phone for 8 or 10 or 12 hours…” – Shipnuck (40:20)

Rory vs. Phil: Biographer’s Perspective

• Shipnuck’s admiration for Rory’s steadiness, humility, and loyalty (“universally beloved and accepted”) compared to Phil Mickelson’s tumultuous, flawed humanity.

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IV. Mike Vrabel, Diana Rossini, and Sports Gossip (51:20 – 55:54)

• Light discussion about the alleged Vrabel-Rossini romance photo leak—debating whether it was PI-planted, and whether the situation matters beyond sports celebrity gossip.
• “If you’re not a sports fan, you don’t know who Mike Vrabel and Diana Rossini are… They’re not even Steph Curry.” – Bobby Bones (54:30)

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V. Michael Strahan: From Germany to the NFL and Beyond (57:45 – 68:28)

(Featured from the Bobbycast, main segment between 57:45 – 68:28)

Growing Up & Forming His Warm Persona

• Michael grew up in Germany, feeling “more German and European than American.”
• “For me, it’s always about being warm and making people feel seen… I like people… except on the football field.” – Strahan (57:55)

Developing a “Mean Switch” for Football

• “You have to have a switch. If you don’t, you’ll burn yourself out quickly.” – Strahan on compartmentalizing aggression (58:26)

Unusual Path to Football Greatness

• Played just one year of high school football—was learning the game as he played it!
• “I played one year in high school. That was it. Had no idea what I was doing, man.” (60:47)

Adjusting to TV & Life After Football

• Openly discusses the post-career identity crisis many athletes face:
  • “How do you transition out of [football]? You walk into a room and you feel like that’s all everybody sees…” (62:17)
  • Overcoming the “fear of failure” and being seen as more than just an athlete.

Admiration for Mike Vick and Deion Sanders

• Strahan praises Vick for his honesty, resilience, and paying back debts after prison:
  • “He paid his debt, went to prison, came back on the field, but also… paid people back. So I look at Mike and I think Mike has a lot of honor.” (65:10)

Ending His Career on His Terms

• Retired after winning the Super Bowl – nothing left to prove.
• “Once that happened, I was like, why am I sticking around… Physically, I felt great. There are days I wake up now and I feel like I can give them another year.” (67:12)

Being Starstruck by Michael Jordan

• “MJ is still MJ… that was the one guy… This is Michael Jordan…” (68:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When I start looking at, like, at least in my life, I think Mexicans win.” – Bobby Bones (10:35)
• “You don’t really want to go hang out with new people. It’s not that I don’t like people, but man, it’s a lot of work.” – Bobby Bones (51:54)
• “People will see you as you see yourself.” – Michael Strahan (63:25, advice from a movie producer)

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Important Timestamps

• Value of Mexican Friends & Cultural Chat: 04:30–11:15
• Brisket/BBQ Discussion: 11:16–19:17
• Alan Shipnuck Interview (Rory, Masters): 29:21–46:04
• Mike Vrabel/Diana Rossini Rumors: 51:20–55:54
• Michael Strahan Interview (sports, life): 57:45–68:28

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Episode Tone & Style

Consistently playful, irreverent, and open—even when handling sports controversy or nostalgia, the hosts and guests mix humor with heartfelt honesty. Bobby Bones and crew don’t shy away from poking fun at themselves, their upbringings, or their celebrity subjects, creating an accessible and entertaining listening experience.

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For Listeners New and Old

Whether you tune in for sports, culture, or just a laugh, this episode delivers community, good-natured ribbing, surprising depth on golf and sports culture, and rare personal insights from major sports figures. The honest takes on friendship and authenticity—plus inside stories from Strahan and Shipnuck—make this a can’t-miss episode for fans of both sport and storytelling.

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[Bobby Bones]

This is a podcast called 25 whistles. Talking football.

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And they all wear a whistle yet Stupid.

[Bobby Bones]

But why did you expect It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles, everybody. Welcome to the show. Coming up, we'll talk Masters with Alan Chipnuk. And we talked a lot of Rory, which, by the way, and this will change by the time you guys are hearing this, but on the Bobby Bones show, I went to Amy. We did the psychic bit. We said, pick a letter. She picked R. So I threw a bunch of money on Rory.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

She saw the letter R. I mean,

[Bobby Bones]

she didn't know anything about Rory. Where we are. Oh, blow it. Mike's sitting there with a whistle in his mouth, running audio.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

I've been there, Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

It just looked on and yeah, we're here. So again, this is not the best part of a podcast. Whenever you have to say something live, because it's never like that. But looking. I don't think Rory's even. No, they start the first two days. It doesn't matter where they are.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah, they're set. Like if you start early the first day, you start later the second day, right?

[Bobby Bones]

So it doesn't move until they cut correct Rory's at Minus. I didn't. As of right now, he didn't even start to 12.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

He hadn't started. And he's tied for first. Him and Sam Burns. Your guy. The guy you played with.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, my guy, right.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Didn't you play with Sam Burns?

[Bobby Bones]

I did, yeah. But I was like, my guy.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

What event. What event was that?

[Bobby Bones]

I played in the celebrity Pro am of the St. Jude.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, FedEx.

[Bobby Bones]

FedEx. Classic.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Cool, cool, cool.

[Bobby Bones]

And I was like, weren't you there? No, my other Mexican counterpart was there. Your brother in law, DJ Gasso? Yes. Not my other. I have three.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Me, your brother in law, and Steve.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't miss the closest.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Your other Mexican counterpart.

[Bobby Bones]

What Mexican is with me more than anybody else?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Mike D. Yeah, sorry, Mike. Sorry.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

In the room, probably the most Mexican. Well, I don't know about dj, but.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

So, guys, we don't do that. We don't say, who's more Mexican.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I'm just saying DJ is least Mexican.

[Bobby Bones]

His mom's white.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I didn't even know DJ was Mexican.

[Bobby Bones]

We call him. I wonder if he even considers himself Mexican.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Honestly, this is the first time I've heard that.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Let me.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

What? DJ be Mexican.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Like, if you. Yeah. Oh, I wouldn't have guessed that.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm FaceTiming him right now. See if he answers. Must be they have a series at Mississippi State.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

They're there.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they're there. So I'll say this. This about dj. He. I'm very close to dj. He is the only person in my life that just calls me to talk. There's no reason. He calls me and I'm like, oh, DJ's calling. Let me see what's on his mind. Hey, man, what's up? Nothing. What's up with you?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Not like, hey, I need advice.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

I need the.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Just really to talk calls. Check. Just to catch inside.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Hey, that's family, man. That's family right there.

[Bobby Bones]

I. Nobody does that to me for two reasons. One, because I don't think that's done a lot anyway. Now people don't just show up at doors and knock and come in. I think that culture's changed, but also, most people know how I am. I don't want to talk on the phone to anybody. I don't mind DJ calling.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, he. He FaceTimes, though, all the time. And so he'll FaceTime me and just be like, what's up, brobey? And I'm like, nothing. What's up with you? Nothing. And then we just figure out what to talk about.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

What's the average conversation time?

[Bobby Bones]

12 to 15 minutes. Wow, that's solid.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

That's a long time for you.

[Bobby Bones]

I really enjoy him as a person. There are only a few people on earth I enjoy as a person fully that I make time to person with. He's one of those people. He just. So I wish you would answer. I wouldn't say this to his face. He's awesome.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Why would you want to say it to his face? You gotta let him know how much you appreciate.

[Bobby Bones]

I do. No, no. He knows I love him, but it's just like. It just wouldn't come up to where it's like, hey, man, I just think you're the best.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Do you have that relationship with him where it's like you talk crap to each other and that's how, you know, like.

[Bobby Bones]

Like brothers is how I love you, dude.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

You know, because I have one friend like that, too, where we talk probably once a week on the phone. And it's like, you know, you just say something stupid or mean to him, and that's basically your way of saying, like, what's up, dude?

[Bobby Bones]

You know him? Not really so much. That way we can for sure. He's also, like, a really good athlete where we get pissed off when we play golf because he's. He played college baseball, so he's a really good athlete.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Where did he play?

[Bobby Bones]

A couple places. Okay. And then I. I just get annoyed. And then we get way competitive, and then I'm like, I know you're cheating. I know you're driving off to drop your ball.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah, I've been there for that.

[Bobby Bones]

And then. And who knows if he is. He always drives off. But anyway, I got triggered.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah. Yeah. I thought you guys were over that.

[Bobby Bones]

Anyway, here we go. Here we go. If he calls, I will answer it. But I don't know how we got started on my list of favorite Mexicans. I know. I don't know. How do we get on my list of my favorite Mexicans? Sam Burns didn't. Oh, the Caddy. I thought it was Eddie, but it was my other. My other closeman Mexican friend. But I think, too, like, when I live in Texas, I was the minority in my friend group. I was the white guy. It was like, all Mexicans and one black dude and me. And so I tried to get. I tried to get a scholarship. Yeah, I tried to get a minority scholarship. It didn't work like that.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And that's why. That's why it was weird when, like, he would like, hey, man, do you want to come over and Watch football, like, with me and my friends. And then, like, he would say, yeah, you feel like cooking? And then he would tell me one thing, and then he'd tell another one of our friends, like, hey, you feel like cooking tacos? And then you tell another friend, hey, you feel like doing burgers? And by the time we got to his house on Sunday to watch football, we had all this food. And he's the only one that didn't

[Bobby Bones]

do anything except buy it.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

That's a big part of it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. A lot of time I would buy it, but I would not just say, do you feel like it? I'd be like, hey, they're going to cook this. And it's so competitive. Even Steve, who we don't run with as much, but Steve was definitely a best friend who's Mexican. And they would argue about who the best chef was, like, on the grill constantly.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that a Mexican culture thing?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, because I don't have any white. And it could just be, I don't have any white friends, because they could do that, too.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And we called it, like, just barbecuing, but it's not like just barbecuing. It's a whole. It's a whole thing, you know, like putting meat on a grill outside with the charcoal and all that, drinking beers, like, it's a culture.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a cool.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah, because you guys grew up doing that, right?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I mean, because we grew up barbecuing and, you know, our culture, but it was like burgers and dogs.

[Bobby Bones]

No, dude, I'm gonna tell you, Mexicans rock.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah, they do.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Thank you, man.

[Bobby Bones]

No doubt about it. Maybe the best they do. I'm telling you.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

When I start looking at, like, at least in my life, I think Mexicans win.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

And they're loyal. Like, I grew up in Southern California, so I have a lot of Mexican friends, and they're very loyal. And if you're loyal to them, man, they'll be loyal to you forever.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

This feels so weird hearing you guys talking about it.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm telling you, whites are so far down the list.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

They are like, we're right here just listening to them.

[Bobby Bones]

Whites are so far down the list. Just kind of suck.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

We like, you guys.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys ever have meetings and talk about us?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, do you rank the white guys, like, you know, first in the white guy draft? We're gonna take Kevin.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, man, you don't even know friendship. You got a good Mexican friend.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

You know?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

That's right.

[Bobby Bones]

I was speaking of Food. We should

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

We should talk about the cow thing real quick, because this has been on a couple shows, but Eddie has been trying to get us to buy a cow. I opted out. You opted out or opted in?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Oh, I'm in.

[Bobby Bones]

You're buying part of the cow?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Oh, I've. I've already bought part of the cow.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

How much money did you spend?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

$300.

[Bobby Bones]

And so you already paid for it?

[Michael Strahan]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

And so you're going to get a. A third of a quarter of the cow.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. What. What happened? Did he. He get. Did you show him a picture of the cow?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Yeah.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

So we all, you know, is me, Kevin, and a buddy of Kevin's, and we all went in.

[Bobby Bones]

I told you, nobody wants to see the picture of the cow.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

They venmoed me the money, and I paid the farmer. So then, like, you know what, Four or five days went by, and the farmer said, hey, got your cow. Send me a picture of it. And honestly, I thought that was pretty cool. Like, hey, you spent $900 on a cow, you might as well see what you bought, right? Wouldn't you like to see? If you bought a tractor, wouldn't you want to see it?

[Bobby Bones]

Tractor's not living.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

It's totally different.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Okay, okay, let's think.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw a picture of the cow. Pretty cute cow he showed you.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I know. I was like, dude, this cow just minding his own business.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

But are you gonna. Now, every time you just see a cow, you're gonna be like, I don't want to see that. I don't want to see that.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Chances are you're gonna eat the cow that you see anyway.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I know, but there's a difference than just knowing that. It's not even like, just eating.

[Bobby Bones]

I say go out to cow free and save it.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Open the gate. No, that's our money. What are you doing?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Hey, I could be saving a life, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Something else food related on Monday. Is it a brisket off?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it brisket?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

We're smoking brisket.

[Bobby Bones]

Did I give you guys enough money?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Mm.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So I gave each of you $75.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yes, sir.

[Bobby Bones]

To go and prepare a brisket. You bought the meat. Do you have to buy, like, sauces and stuff or, like.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

I mean, we don't want to give too much. As far as what goes into a

[Bobby Bones]

preparation of a brisket, I was thinking about this. I think there should be two different rounds. Round one should be straight meat, like, no sauce. Round two should be with a sauce.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Okay.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Like, you add the Sauce or you

[Bobby Bones]

provide the sauce that you think goes best with. No. Well, it doesn't matter. But there should be an element of how I would normally eat it because I wouldn't just grab it and eat it straight. So I want to do round one, straight meat, Round two, meet with whatever sauce you deem to be the best sauce to go with the kind of meat you cooked. I like that.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I think I gave you enough money to buy some sauce, right?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Well, now. Now, I mean, now you're adding sauce. We're kind of going over the other.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Depends what kind of sauce you can get expensive guys, cheap.

[Bobby Bones]

You're keeping 80 of that meat.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Do you want sugar free?

[Bobby Bones]

I've bought you food for your family for like at least three days.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Good point.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

That is true.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Good point. Are you gonna homemade the sauce?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I don't know yet.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Okay.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I haven't thought about this because I

[Bobby Bones]

wouldn't share any details.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah, I. I don't know.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Fair question.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I might just go to a Mexican shop down the street and get a sauce.

[Bobby Bones]

Who knows?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Good luck with that.

[Bobby Bones]

You could.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Exactly.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Have you bought your brisket?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Not yet.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

I've already bought mine. Oh. Yeah, I hand picked it. It's perfect. But people don't realize half of the quality of your brisket. How it comes out is what it looks like before you cook it. People don't realize that.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Well, now they do.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

So you better hand pick it correctly.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you seen the TikTok video where the guy's with his wife and she is picking out fruit? I'm gonna say for the sake of this, it's peaches. It could be any fruit. And he's standing beside her and she hands him a peach. He puts in the bag, she fills another one, puts in a bag. He hands her one, she's like, that's not good. So then he starts to grab one from inside the bag that she's already picked and hands them to her. She goes, that's not good.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I love it.

[Bobby Bones]

So anything he hands her, she's like, this is not good. Even if it's the one she's already picked and put in the bag.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Terrible, man.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

That one's pretty funny. That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

That's.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

That sounds about right.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah, it does. You know what I love about those videos is that, like, it makes you feel not alone. Like, you watch a video like that and you're like, wow, I'm not the only one that that happens to. That's so that makes me feel better about myself.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to go to Fellow whitey. Dylan. Who's over there? Dylan, can you turn your mic on? A lot of people are like, who the heck's Dylan? Dylan's face has never been on yet. We're not. He is a luchador, basically.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Speaking of Mexicans, he wears a mask.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Nobody sees Dylan right now. Dylan as a fellow. As a fellow whitey, do you like brisket?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Love brisket.

[Bobby Bones]

Would you like to be a part of eating the brisket on Monday? Whenever they are, like, feeding us the brisket to see who's a winner? I don't know what kind of person

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

I'd be if I said no. So.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Okay.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And you're from Tennessee?

[Avocados from Mexico Announcer]

Georgia.

[Public Investing Announcer]

North Georgia.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, Georgia. Okay. All right.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

So.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

So he knows probably good brisket, right?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Good barbecue.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, everybody knows good brisket. That's true.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

But in California, like, we don't have. You didn't great get raised, like, eating brisket. It was tacos, burritos, you know, like. And then you come here, like, well, the barbecue here is much better.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

That's interesting. What. What were you raised eating? Like, okay, here you go. I set you up. I set you up.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean, what was I raised eating?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Well, he said, like, you know, in California, where he was born and raised, like, it was tacos and burritos. Okay, so in Arkansas, an old mountain pine.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

What were you eating?

[Bobby Bones]

If you were to say, what did you eat mostly? Or are you asking, like, if we had barbecue, what kind of barbecue was it?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

I think I'm asking more like, what was the food of your area? What did you guys specialize in making in that area?

[Bobby Bones]

First, it was any food at all. I knew it. It's not, though. But if you said, what kind of food did you eat most? Two things come to mind. Hamburger Helper and Manwich. Yeah. Because.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah, that's not what I was looking for.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not making a joke. I know. I get it. I know Bobby was poor. I get it. But it was. If you could find ground beef, the cheapest. And Hamburger Helper, or even the knockoff Hamburger Helpers were so cheap that you could make basically a meal from that. And Manwich was so cheap. Are you familiar with Man?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah. The can.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

It's ground beef. And then you put the can in it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, there's no ground beef.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

It's like sloppy Joe.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just. Yeah. So good with white bread. Like, that was what I think of when I think of, like, dinner as far as, like, barbecue.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Like, did Arkansas Keith on a Like a Friday night barbecue.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no. A lot of fish. Because we would catch the fish. But barbecue. I guess there was a Memphis influence, but it would be. We would just go to, like, Smokey Joe's or some barbecue place, like.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Like pork ribs.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm telling you, the only time I think we really ate barbecue as a kid was if, you know, the first Sunday of the month, the weather was good. After church, people would bring food. You'd have dinner on the grounds, what they would call it, and people would bring barbecue. I ate it there. I wouldn't know it was from them.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

That's nice.

[Bobby Bones]

So I don't have a good. I don't know. I don't know what it was. But when I got to Texas, all my young adulthood, I give University of Texas so much crap because I hate them. But I love Austin and I love Texas, and I think I am able to separate the two. I think people know that, like, Austin, A plus. City, the greatest. Like, I like it better than Nashville. And I say that as living in Nashville. The barbecue culture there is pretty solid A plus. Yeah, it's. It's solid. Different kind of barbecue than Memphis barbecue.

[Michael Strahan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And Kansas City barbecue, even.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And that's why I'm surprised by Dylan and Georgia. Like, no, no, Georgia barbecue.

[Bobby Bones]

They just fry peaches. Like, that was his barbecue. Like, his dad would put them on the grill and put sauce on it. Here's barbecue. So he's confused. It's meat. He just thought we were doing peaches.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

You're right.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

It's a different barbecue.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Like, I think my love for, like, barbecue came from being in Texas. I'd like to say again, just for the record, I hate the University of Texas. Yes, yes, yes. I love Texas and Austin, but that University of Texas hate comes from me being an Arkansas kid and them just pounding us and being richer than us and being in the same conference as us for a long time. But I'm excited about Monday. The question is, Mike, and this is gonna be you, since you're the boss. Do we do it here? Do we. Do we come over here, or do we just do it in our studio? Because we can drive over here easily. There's more room. We could do it with cameras outside. It doesn't matter. I did. Do they need any prep time before?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Nah, nah, we're.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Nah, nah.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

It'll be ready.

[Bobby Bones]

So you just wanna do it in the building up there? Okay. All right, so Mondays of this show, we will do the.

[Michael Strahan]

Have you.

[Bobby Bones]

Dylan, you've been up to the Other building. Right. Do you want to come up?

[Michael Strahan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, I'll be there.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

So is he part of, like, the final call too, or they just.

[Bobby Bones]

He's just there. So here's what it's gonna be. It's a great question. He's not part of the final call, but he is a consultant. If I'm like, a little torn on something, I may have a little conversation with my fellow whitey and be like, hey, what do you think? And you know, also, if he just wants to eat brisket, he should come up, but we cannot show his face. The new thing about Dylan is no one can know what he looks like. And if he does get on, we have to get him a mask. Okay.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

A luchador mask.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

That's hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

Spider man mask.

[Michael Strahan]

Can I.

[Bobby Bones]

So something that I've been. I'm not going to do it because I just don't have the energy or time now that I have a baby. Something that I was toying with in my head was being a masked stand up comedian in town, never saying who I was, go to open mic stuff and all, and then do actual open mic because I can't be like, I don't do it. I'm doing my own show because no one's going to know who I am and be a masked comedian the whole time and see if any. See if I'm even any good. And like, do Zanies and like, try, but never, never reveal it's me because I can sell tickets because people think I'm somewhat funny from doing this and I got to be C plus to B minus comedian through just doing years and years of being on the road. But if I just do it in a mask and it's not specifically about things that I'm talking about me, like, wouldn't that be fun and funny? And also if I bomb and I suck, who cares? I'm in a mask.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Do you think you being on the radio and podcasts and all that people would recognize your voice?

[Bobby Bones]

I think there's a chance. However, I don't speak in a cadence and we talked about this on another show. It's hard to do an impression of me because nothing I do speaking wise is so dynamic that you can easily replicate it or do an impression to go, that's for sure him. So, yes, maybe. But I think if I were in a mask. Mike, what do you think about that idea? I love it. That'd be crazy, huh? I do think people would figure it out after a while, though, after hearing you speak. After a while. Yes. Unless I Unless I went up and I couldn't do a fake Elizabeth Holmes.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

It. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If you just go full blue and do like stuff you would never do. Yeah.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Or like a voice changer.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's one thing that I've really spent some time thinking about doing. I don't think I have another thing that I think I am going to do that I don't want to say here because I like that stuff. Like, I like risk. Like, I like. It's not the same as like a danger of a police officer. It's not. So I don't want people to get on my balls about it. That's not real danger.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

We're not doing that.

[Bobby Bones]

But I like that. I like danger. I like going up and trying stuff. That's way different.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Do you remember we talked about you and I doing, like, we'd go up to these. Like, we'd play shows, but we'd act dead serious and try to sing like Whitney Houston, I will always love you.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, sort of. So my idea was we open for people where they don't know who we are, but the person. The people do that would be on the joke. We have to tell them. So let's say somebody comes to town like Amos Lee, who I'm a massive fan of, but he's also represented by my same agency. And if he had a sense of humor, my. Not my agency, my. My management, my manager would be like, hey, these two guys, they. They want to do seven minutes and they're gonna go up and they're gonna open for the opener. And we. And we were just gonna go and sing as hard and the hardest songs possible. Acapella and not stop and no. And people wouldn't know who. We wouldn't even be doing in town. We go to like Atlanta.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Okay. Like some small town, maybe Atlanta.

[Bobby Bones]

We put on like some facial. We don't go full mask or anything. And we're in there. We're trying AD but we're not cracking for any reason. And we do like three full songs and all we're doing is recording us in the audience and then that's the performance. Hilarious.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Dude. You think you'd be able to hold it?

[Michael Strahan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah. You just act like you like this isn't a joke.

[Bobby Bones]

That uncomfortableness. I love it.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I think you could for sure. But Eddie, that'd be tough.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

I think I could.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

And that's not a diss. Cause I don't know if I would, like. If I heard you singing like that, dude, I'd be dying.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

That's like the guys on Saturday Night Live that can't hold it.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

That wants a break.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

That's the kind of stuff like I think about when I'm going, what's my next thing? It's always really outrageous stuff that I end up not doing. But I do have something now that I do. I don't have the time right this second that I do feel like I can do. And I think people will come and it'll be fun, but I've never seen done before. I won't reveal that here. I think my days as being just a touring standup are over. I did a special. I got bought by cmt. It was fun. I still have those elements. I only did that so I could train myself good enough that if I ever got the call to host an award show, it'd be totally comfortable for me because I'd been doing stand up forever. So I think I'm okay there. I got a little something else in the tailpipe.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I hope to be there for it.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

The tailpipe.

[Bobby Bones]

It's all just me eating people's brisket.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

All right, this is the start of it.

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[Bobby Bones]

Everybody's prepared brisket. Let's see who is the best and

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Dylan's your partner, the masked Dylan.

[Bobby Bones]

This masked white guy here. Okay, so that's going to be Monday. Have we talked to sports at all?

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Nah, a little. Masters.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, we're now going to go over to Alan Shepnuk, one of the most influential voices in golf journalism. He's the author of the brand new biography, Rory the Heartache and Triumph of Golf's Most Human Superstar that came out this week. Over 30 years covering the sport. And the new book drops right as Rory returns to Augusta to defend his master's title. And you can follow Alan on social media. Alan Chipnuk. Alan, big thanks for coming on. What I want to say first is I saw Rory talking about the food and they were like, hey, why didn't you, you know, do more Irish food? And he said, well, because I want to enjoy the food too. So is Rory funny?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Reasonably funny, yes. That was a good line. And of course, a few people over in Ireland I've detected on, on Twitter were offended. But as we say in this, in, in our business, you know, the truth is my shield and I think Rory's Rory is bang on there. So. But it is interesting because he's, he's this blue collar kid from this, you know, scrappy little suburb of Belfast and it shows how far he's traveled in life. The fancy wines, the foie gras, like a little bit of an eye roll, like, come on, Rory, like, like, don't forget, don't forget your roots. But at the same time, if you've been to Ireland, you know what he's talking about.

[Bobby Bones]

Is Rory well liked?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Oh, very much so. Everywhere he goes, he's a Crowd favorite. He just had. There's something about him that. That draws people, obviously plays the game with a certain flare, but I think it's more about he. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He's incredibly just open for such a superstar athlete. I mean, there's a humanity there that is. That is very rare. So people are drawn to him, including his colleagues. Like he makes a point of when. When some rookie wins, you know, a B list tour event, Rory finds him and congratulates him. And he said, you know, that that's important to him.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

He.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

He feels like, you know, he. When he was coming up, some of the old timers did that to him and how much it meant to him. He wants to carry on those little traditions. And so, yeah, he just carries himself with a certain grace and a certain ease that is quite endearing. So, yeah, he's very popular now. He has reshaped the professional golf. And how much affection he has among his peers depends a little bit about where they are on the money list. If, you know, as. As Rory's had this vision of a more exclusive tour. Smaller fields, more money, fewer events. A few guys are getting left out of that. So they may not have as much affection for Rory, but the top players, he's put a hell of a lot of money in their pocket. They love the guy for that.

[Bobby Bones]

What about when it was Rory versus basically Liv? Was that very much wrestling on the outside and, you know, just so we would see it and so the pub, or was that also internally tough?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

It was a very messy, chaotic situation.

[Michael Strahan]

He.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

But Rory's always had a strong moral compass. You know, even three years where I live golf launched, there's something called the. The Saudi International. It was a European tour event.

[Michael Strahan]

And.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

And he was, you know, offered ungodly amounts of money to play there as an appearance fee. And he said no, that, you know, he wanted to be on the right side of history, that there's a morality to this because it's only a few months after Jamal Khashoggi had been assassinated by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. And so Rory didn't want their money, and he was very clear about that. And he really never wavered. I mean, you know, his quote was, I want to be on the right side of history. You know, he reveres Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer. And part of their legacy is that they. They created the modern PGA Tour by. By breaking away from the PG of America, which was this little parochial organization. And, you know, Rory knows that history, and he wanted to be remembered as the guy who helped save the PGA Tour, and he did. And so, you know, his wish was granted. He is on the right side of history. So, yeah, it was, it was very sincere and very from the heart, this battle that he fought to try and, to try and represent the PGA Tour in a lot of ways, represent the game of golf.

[Bobby Bones]

How big was that win last year at the Masters for Rory?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

I mean, monumental transcended sport. Because he had been on this lifelong quest, you know, to fulfill his destiny as this prodigy, and he'd won everything else and he'd come to the Masters year after year and failed. And he, you know, he'd had a, famously had a four stroke lead in, in 2011, going to the back nine. He blew up and that's that, you know, Augusta national became this house of horrors for Rory. And so the, the outpouring of emotion around that win, it was not because he became the sixth man to win the career Grand Slam. I mean, that's cool. It has meaning in, in the context of the, the history of the sport, but it was really the human element because you could see the angels and the demons on his shoulder that whole round. And he was playing the best golf of his life. He had the low, low score in the tournament on Friday and Saturday. He was in total control of his golf ball. And on Sunday he had some of the worst shots in Masters history. It was completely metaphysical. And, and to watch him grapple with the weight of history and, and what this meant to his legacy and what it meant to him personally, I mean, it was riveting. It was the entire human condition on display in one round of golf. And that, that's why people were crying on their couches, and that's why it took over the sports world, because it was just. The drama was so internal. He was fighting this battle with himself and had nothing to do with the golf course or the other, the other players in the field. And I mean, it was riveting.

[Bobby Bones]

You feel like that was more of a relief than for him than it was initially, than it was like this monumental quest that's finally been fulfilled.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

It was all of it. I mean, he said there was more relief than joy and that, that sort of, that visceral outpouring that he had on the last green, and then that, that unforgettable walk, you know, from the green to the scoring area, which is about 150 yards. And you could see, you know, his face like a movie screen just playing out this lifetime of, of heartache and yearning and, and disappointment and Disillusionment, and then finally, you know, just catharsis. So it was. Yeah, it was. It was a huge relief. I think the joy has come after the fact. Like, he's loved being the Masters champion. Like, he's been swanning around this week in his green jacket and making all the rounds. And, like, the joy came later. I think initially it was all relief.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you notice guys tightening up as the actual event gets closer to starting?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Oh, yeah, no, I definitely. I mean, Johnny Miller, who is one of the greatest players in golf, not to win the Masters, I mean, he said he started choking, like, driving down Magnolia Lane. It's. It's just. It's the crown jewel of the sport. It's what every player wants. They all grew up watching this tournament,

[Bobby Bones]

and

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

it's such a mental battle. Just go out there and play golf and just treat it like any other place. I mean, Rory said the first time he came here, he was afraid to take a divot out of the fairway because it's like such sacred earth, you know? And so, yeah, that is half the battle is.

[Bobby Bones]

Is.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Is just trying to be loose, trying to forget about where you are, just hit golf shots. Some guys are better at it than others. But, yeah, there's a very high choke factor around the Masters because of all that comes with it.

[Bobby Bones]

If you're playing really well leading up to it, especially other tournaments, a lot of times we can dictate, well, he's been playing great. He's probably going to play great here. I feel like that's not always the case with the Masters, because exactly what you were talking about. Would you agree with that?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Yes. And then. Then there's the. The unique playability factors at Augusta National. I mean, they are the scariest greens in championship golf. So you take a guy like Cam Young, who won the Players Championship last month, you know, one of the biggest tournaments on Tour. That is a. He won that. That tournament T degree. And his ball striking was so overwhelming that he. He had an okay to pretty good week of putting, but, you know, he's not a great putter, so this is not the ideal venue for him because it really exposes your weaknesses. Same with the greens have all these little quadrants, and you have to be so precise, and the penalty for a miss is so high. So again, controlling your distances with your irons is so paramount here more than anywhere else. And then chipping around the greens, the grass is so short, the lies are so tight. It has to be a perfect strike every time. So there is the emotional component but, but it's also this golf course and this setup puts certain stresses on your game that don't really exist week to week. And it will reveal your weaknesses, without a doubt. So it's a very interesting and sort of thrilling combination of the emotional and the physical demands it places on the players.

[Bobby Bones]

Superstition in sports, a big deal. And I have friends that play baseball and they're like, man, if I thought a perfect session of the bullpen before a game, it usually ain't going to go very well. If you're playing practice rounds, does this translate at all to Augusta? Like, if you're just crushing practice rounds, is that a bad sign?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

I don't think it's ever a bad sign, but there's not a straight line correlation, that is for sure. And also this, this week is going to be a, it's going to be a great Masters because there's no rain forecast. And, and they're such sophisticated agronomy. They have these giant, like, basically suction machines beneath the greens. They can dry them out overnight, making them much firmer, faster, more demanding. They can drain moisture out of them if there is a little bit of rain. They can change the green so fast here that a lot of players feel like from Monday, you know, kind of the first practice round day to Thursday, the first competitive round, that it's like a different golf course in some ways. It, it just keeps getting harder and harder and harder. So I think it's always good to hit the ball well and gain some confidence, but it, it's here more than most places. It, it doesn't mean that much. When, when the bell rings on Thursday morning, the demands get, get tougher. The questions that the course is asking get more complicated. And it's, it's a different kind of challenge.

[Bobby Bones]

Alan, this is Eddie, my co host.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Hey, Alan, I got a question. Bobby was telling me that at the Masters. I've never been, but he was telling me that at the Masters they take your phones away, you can't use them, or you just can't take them out or you get kicked out. And I'm wondering, does that create a more peaceful environment with the crowd? And speaking of Rory, I think Rory's kind of had a history of snapping back at the crowd because they yell at him. Being a four, not being from the US So does that kind of create up a peaceful environment at the Masters?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Oh, yeah. So I used to rage against the machine, you know, the first X number of years. I was so frustrated, I couldn't have my phone because I couldn't communicate with my editors or my fellow writers. I couldn't communicate with my readers on, you know, through, through tweets, which is a big part of tournament weeks now. And I was just bitter about the whole thing. And now I love it. It's, it's literally the only place on planet Earth where you can just, just get away from your phone for eight or 10 or 12 hours and just, just soak in all the beautiful nature, lose yourself in the tournament, actually talk to other human beings because they're, they don't have their phone either that you can actually engage. There's eye contact, like what, what a concept. So it's, it's unique to this event. And it also makes people more present because, like, you know, you go to tournaments and everyone's got their phone out trying to capture some crappy little grainy video like, bro, this looks better on tv. Anyway, no one cares you got a video of this. But people are so obsessed with that in, in this case, when you take the phone away, they just get into the golf. They're, they're paying closer attention to what's actually happening. They're, they're, they're having more fun with the people around them. So I've become a convert. It, it's actually a blessing and a relief to just go out there and lose yourself in, in, in, in a great competition. But it's not replicable probably anywhere else on, on the planet. But they, they somehow, because they have unlimited resources and because everyone's afraid, they're so vindictive, if you break a rule, you're out forever. And so somehow it works here.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you become more or less of a fan of Rory after writing this book?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

That's a good question. I mean, I try to be a dispassionate observer. Like I would never describe myself as a fan, but you are human, you know, and you do have emotions. And I would say that of course I knew the broad strokes of his life and his journey. And when you get into the, the details of it, it's really remarkable how far he's traveled. I have, I have a lot of admiration for Rory. I think he's conduct himself with a tremendous amount of grace growing up in the spotlight. I mean, you look at the three biggest golfers the last 30 plus years, Tiger, Bill Mickelson and Rory, and two of them have had their lives totally derailed by, by scandal, by addiction, by vice, by greed, and everywhere where he goes. He's universally beloved and accepted and he's welcomed and he's just carried himself. He just moves through the world with an ease that's really refreshing for a top athlete. And he's never really forgotten his roots. You know, his parents traveled him. He talks about his parents all the time, their influence on him. His closest friends are the kids he grew up with in this little town outside of Belfast. And, you know, he has the jet and the mansions and the cars, but. But deep down he's sort of the same person and that I find that very impressive and admirable. So I would say my esteem for Rory definitely went up throughout this whole project.

[Bobby Bones]

How about Phil, when you wrote that book, how did the esteem go with that Phil book?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Well, the big difference is that the Phil is a maniac and Rory is not. But I mean, when I do these, these biographies, I don't feel like it's my duty to legislate to people how they should feel about the athlete. I just want to capture the totality of them as a person and as a player. And so, you know, in the field book, I was very happy to celebrate his philanthropy, all his random acts of kindness to fans and others, his, his mentorship of young players. And he's done a lot of great things in life. There's also been a tremendous amount of messiness. And it's all in the book. And the, the reaction was interesting. A lot of people read the book and said, I actually like Phil more because he, he's more human to me. I, I can see he's flawed, but. But I appreciate him, him. And he also lost plenty of fans who read in the book, you know, the way he treats caddy, the, the scale of his gambling debts, like. And so it was kind of split down the middle, which told me I might have done a good job as a biographer just presenting this very complex person. You know, Rory does not have Phil's demons, but it's the same mandate is just to capture who they are and let, let readers kind of, you know, decide how they feel about them. And so, you know, Rory's had his controversies and his business life and his love life, and they're all in the book because they have to be. But ultimately, I think it's, it's a kind of a feel good story because it has a happy ending with the masters and with some of the stuff off the golf course for him. And we've been on this journey with Rory and he's, he's taken it on the chin many times. You know, he, you know, sort of like Phil, he's going to be defined by his losses as much as by his victories. And, and through it all he's had a certain grace about it and he's never stopped coming back. And so yeah, I think it's a feel good book even while it's clear eyed about some of his flaws and foibles.

[Bobby Bones]

The book is called Rory the Heartache and Triumph of Golf's Most Human Superstar just came out and Alan, thank you so much for your time. I hope the book sells a billion copies and I hope you have a great time out. I'm assuming you're in Augusta now.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

I'm in Augusta, yeah. I'm back. I'm across the street from Augusta national in this corporate hospitality tent because you can't have your phone. You're kind of trapped in the media center. They don't really have places for podcasters and stuff. So I'm here eating free food and drink, but the golf tournament right across the street, so I'll get there eventually.

[Bobby Bones]

I hope everybody checks out the book. Alan, thank you so much and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

All right, thanks guys. I appreciate you.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

quick thing on the Mike Vrabel and Diana Rossini. And I like them both. Rusini's been on the show a couple times. She's awesome. Everybody here I know that loves Variable. Loves him.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

You ever met Rabel?

[Bobby Bones]

I got invited to play golf with him once. I didn't go. I think that would have been the only time. I don't think I ever met him in passing.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Have you kept Kevin?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

No, I wish.

[Bobby Bones]

Am I?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I would have thought you would have just because he was in Nashville.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. The problem is I don't do anything.

[Michael Strahan]

You know what?

[Bobby Bones]

Generally speaking, I do nothing.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

You make a good point.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I work and if it's work, I go for work. I don't. Just the p. I know.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't really want to go hang out with new people. It's not that I don't like people, but man, it's a lot of work. Yeah. It's effort. Yeah. So I got invited to the to play golf with Rainbow once and I didn't go because I didn't know the other two people either.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Were they coaches or anything?

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Do you remember?

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Just regular people.

[Bobby Bones]

They're regular people and one of them I have met a couple times through like, like work and they're like, hey, why don't you come play Golf, it's dead. And Mike Vrabel. And then I was just like, man, I don't know anybody. And it's not that I don't want to hang out with people. I get nervous if I'm playing. I don't know how good a golfers they are.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If they're all really good golfers and I go out there as a 12 handicap and I'm okay. But especially I haven't played. Like right now I'm probably 100. I got to play in this stupid tournament, this thing. In three weeks, I've not touched a golf club. And I'm nervous not to play golf, but because I'm going to be with good people. You don't like to be that embarrassing player? That's embarrassing to me.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

It's hard for me to be embarrassed at this point in my life because again, I don't mind uncomfortableness. I'm embarrassed if I'm on the tee box with good players and I hit it in the shank it right in the woods.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Is it anything athletically or just golf specifically?

[Bobby Bones]

You think it's mostly golf because that you just never know. Yeah.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

And it's literally shot to shot.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And anything athletically, I feel like I can kind of keep up. So. Diana Rossini. I like Vrabel. I know people that know him and they really like them. So it's weird to talk about two people that you kind of like the interlocking of the fingers. Because I looked at the pictures again last night and this is days in

[Eddie (Co-host)]

and I saw them.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I saw the people, they had shopped at like four different outlets for. Yeah. And they were like, hey, tmz, do you want to buy it? TMZ didn't.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Bones]

And my only point with bringing it up again is there are a lot of people online, even with blue check marks that have semi credentialed sports history that are assuming now that somebody had hired a PI to go and get these pictures.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

How else? Because that picture of them from far away with the mountains, you know the one that's.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

How else are you randomly going to get that unless you're there waiting for that?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

And that's not like a phone camera, I don't think. Right.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

It's so zoomed in.

[Bobby Bones]

So zoomed in. IPhone kind of rocks though, now, to be honest.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

So what do you think about, like, who hires a PI? Like, okay, so one of the sponsors.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know that. But if you're asking me, and I would have never thought This. I just see a lot of that online. That it was so out there, which is why they probably went there, that you're not just going to. And also, if you're not a sports fan, you don't know who Mike Vrabel and Diana Rossini are.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Correct? Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Daint Bieber.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

They're not even Steph Curry, who is in sports and crosses over a bit.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

The only thing that makes him stand out is he's big.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

No, but even, even then you wouldn't look at those two and think like, oh, yeah, that's exactly. I know exactly who that is.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, agreed.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Unless you're a sports fan.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think. Do you think they were just gonna.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

I will say it doesn't. I will say it doesn't look good.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you. If you had to bet money on. Here's 100 bucks. Do you think they've been getting it on? Yes, you.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah, I was. Yeah.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And I'm not judging. I'm just taking my money and betting it to double it up.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

It's a picture that does it all, man.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Well, and then, you know, they're hanging

[Bobby Bones]

by the pool and they're just those two and they keep saying that all these friends were with them. I've not seen any pictures of any friends.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

That's what I was thinking, too. I was like, if you have friends, your friends need to come out right now and post all the pictures.

[Bobby Bones]

Also, I don't care. Meaning if they're cheating and their families are hurt, that sucks for their families. I ain't judging because who knows? They could have had arrangements. Hey, honey, I get to bang variable once a year, right? Yes. You know, Bill Gates has that. Had that with his ex wife. He got to go away with his old girlfriend once a year.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Why isn't there pretty wild?

[Bobby Bones]

So I'm not gonna judge anybody for any action if no kids or animals are being hurt and if they're generally not hurt. But I don't like. I'm not like awful people. But yeah, they're probably doing it right. Yeah, I would.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

I was thinking how I could defend it, too.

[Bobby Bones]

They weren't.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

But I'm like, is there a game

[Eddie (Co-host)]

that you play where you interlock fingers like.

[Michael Strahan]

Great.

[Bobby Bones]

Was so Red Rover, which is two people, right?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah. You think there's somebody else that was

[Bobby Bones]

going to run Red rover, Red Rover or they're doing that walk through.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Like when you look practicing for something like that.

[Bobby Bones]

No. You hold your hands up and people come through the starting lineup.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Oh, Dang.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

So maybe because wasn't there an event like down the road or something that

[Bobby Bones]

they were here for day?

[Michael Strahan]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Eddie thinks they were getting ready for

[Eddie (Co-host)]

the pro day, so maybe, yeah, some of the players come out. I don't know.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah, not good, man. But, man, I hope he wins a bunch of games this year.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

That's all you care about.

[Bobby Bones]

That's your coach.

[Alan Shepnuk (Golf Journalist)]

My coach, dude, that's like, when you

[Eddie (Co-host)]

ask me about Dak, I'm just like, man, it's not good. But hey, still love the guy. He's my quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so I did an interview with Michael Strahan, and it was fantastic. And I hope you heard it on the Bobbycast. And we really didn't talk about it here on sports, but if you did miss it, I'm not playing the whole thing, but I do want to play like 10 minutes of the conversation with him when we talked about his wild sports journey. And so Michael Strahan, hall of Famer, mostly. If you missed this, you can go hear us talk about him going to space him. Him doing Michael and Kelly and Good Morning America. And do we ever get the suits from him? They ever follow up?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

No.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

What's he saying? He's sending you suits?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, his lineup belt. Should we follow up?

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

Yeah, should we? I have some of his dress shirts that I bought a few years ago.

[Michael Strahan]

They're awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna follow up. Give me your measurements. Just send it over. Yes, do it. He says he's gonna send me a couple suits from a suit line.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Oh, nice.

[Bobby Bones]

I never followed up. I should just to see if they send me the suits. Oh, that's a good, good point. I should just send over my measurements. Good point.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

That I just made to myself.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, him. He made it. He said, just send over your measurements. Don't ask like, hey, was he serious about this? Just be like, hey, Mike said he was going to send over some suits.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Here are the measurements.

[Bowen Yang]

Uh huh.

[Bobby Bones]

Here's. I need you guys to measure me.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Let's do it. Get the tape.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

While eating brisket.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, here is Michael Strahan. You're a big dude, but you're a very, very warm guy. You feel like you've always been that way towards people.

[Michael Strahan]

Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Michael Strahan]

I've always felt like people are important. I was always, growing up as a kid was kind of had those jobs that you weren't the same person in. When you're cutting the grass or you're moving furniture and people just don't see you, you're kind of just there. So for me, it's always about being warm and making people feel seen. So. And I. And I like people. So, yeah, I always. I feel like I'm that guy, except for the football field. Outside of that, I'm actually pretty nice.

[Bobby Bones]

Was that a switch?

[Michael Strahan]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to have a switch. You. You have to be able. It's weird. When I was a kid, kid being like, 21 in the first year in the league, you have to. You think for years, like, I got to be mad at that guy. I gotta be mad. He said something about my mama. Like, you're creating all these scenarios in your head. But as I got older, it was, hey, we can have this conversation right now. And I say, hold on, Bobby, put my helmet on, run out there, look at the guy, smile at him, beat him up a little bit, come back, put the helmet down, and continue the conversation. It was more about learning how to control your aggression and how to control your focus. And it took me some years to do it, but it made the game easier, made it more relaxed, made it more fun, less stressful. So, yeah, I definitely felt like you have to have a switch. If you don't, you'll burn yourself out quickly.

[Bobby Bones]

I know you spent time growing up in Germany. I'd never been until recently. And I stopped in Munich and I got a hot dog, and I really put. I put a lot of pressure on that hot dog being good.

[Michael Strahan]

Just because you got a bratwurst.

[Bobby Bones]

I got it. Yes. And so I had high hopes. High. And I got. And it met every expectation that I could have ever had. Yes. And I talk about it. If anybody's like, you ever been to Germany? I'm like, not only have I been to Germany, Let me tell you about this hot dog at a street fair. It was a bride. It was definitely a bride. So what ages were you there?

[Michael Strahan]

I was. We moved to Germany and when I was nine, and then I. I came back to the States for half of my senior year to play football and lived with my uncle in Houston for five months. Got one football scholarship to Texas Southern, Got back on the plane in December for Christmas and flew back to Germany and graduated high school there. So I was there from nine till 17, 18 years old. My parents stayed until I was 27. I was in the NFL for six, seven years before my parents moved back. So I would still go back. I'd go see my family. Obviously, I felt when I first came back here for high school, for that half of my senior year, I felt More German and European than I felt American. That was home. And yeah, it was definitely a culture shock to come back to the States.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you only play American football then for one year?

[Michael Strahan]

I played one year in high school. Yeah, that was it. Had no idea what I was doing, man. I was just like running around, getting the guy with the ball, just whoever. I had no idea. I knew, I knew technique. I watched the game on tv. You know, you just tackle the guy with the ball. So if I could do that, I got one scholarship and then from there I figured it out and I learned, you know, I really learned a lot about how to do it. I watched tv, man, I would watch NFL games on Sunday. Even when I was in college, I'd watch NFL games on Sunday. And I'm just watching a guy and what he's doing and how he's successful at different things. And I remember reading in those something and these magazines and they should have the players, their size, their weight, all these things. And I remember going, I need to be 65-250- I need to be 65-2-50. And my brothers aren't big guys really. And I ended up being like 65 at times in my career. A little bit over 250, other big boned. But by the end, yeah, but by the end of the day, I ended up being what I always imagined I needed to be in order to be successful in the NFL. It's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's been pretty amazing to watch the new professional identity you've created. But I do, and I work for the NFL and I work with Matt Castle, who was a quarterback. And we talk a lot about athletes. When they leave, they kind of have to figure out who they are because all they've ever done is be that. Was that, you know, mentally for you? Was that a struggle?

[Michael Strahan]

Absolutely. I knew I had a job with Fox when I retired. I mean, that was, that was done. I'd already had a deal that signed and put in a drawer. And the first year of that deal went by and I still, I went back to the Giants. It wasn't about having a job. It was about having a, you know, being comfortable. In my first year at fox, first three weeks, I was thinking I should have gone back to play football. This TV stuff is not for me. It's hard. It's a lot harder than it looks. But once I got it down, I love it. But yeah, football was just. It's something we've done our whole lives. And how do you transition out of that? And you walk into A room. And you feel like that's all everybody sees is the football player. They don't see the human being. They don't see someone who has other interests, someone who is more rounded than what they expected an athlete to be. So, yeah, that was a big adjustment for me. Even though I knew I had a job, it still was tough.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you feel like when you would go into a room that you would try to prove you were more of what you actually were, but try to be more of that, so people would take you as that instead of just an athlete?

[Michael Strahan]

I think at some point, probably. Probably. But I remember I was talking to a movie guy, movie producer, and I remember saying to him, yeah, you know, I feel like I go into these things because I thought I wanted to be an actor at that point. So I'm like, yeah, I go to these auditions. I feel like I walk in and they just go, here, the football player. And he said, people will see you as you see yourself. And he said that. And it kind of like, okay, I got to take myself out of just that football player mentality. And once I. I did that, like, all. A lot of different things started to happen. I think people did see me in a different light. I. I think being just taking advantage of opportunities. And by that, I mean getting over the fear of failure to fill your fear of being in front of a group of people and something not working out, just saying yes to something just for the experience of it and see where that led. And I look back now, and I'm so grateful that I kind of got over the fear of the failure, the fear of feeling like you're going to look stupid if you do something. Just get rid of all that stuff, drop your ego at the door and go to work. And that's what I did, and it's worked out.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to ask about the Coach Vick experience as a kid growing up. Love Michael Vick at Virginia Tech. Like, he was that dude. I remember the commercials. The Mike Vick Experience commercial on the roller coaster, you know, so the rise of Mike Vick. And then, you know, when he went to prison and he's back at. So I've just kind of seen Mike Vick, the roller coaster of Mike Vick. And I wonder now, because I don't know him and he's coaching now. Like, what did you take away from Mike Vick as an adult and as a coach and as a leader of men?

[Michael Strahan]

Well, one thing I will say about Mike, I've known Mike a long time, and I have so Much respect for him, because he realized what got him in trouble back in the day. And the way. Way that he was living his life back in the day, that was the wrong way to live his life. And here's a guy who grew up in a certain way doing certain things that seemed normal for the community that he came from, but they weren't. And they weren't right. So he paid his debt, he went to prison, came out of prison, got back on the football field, but also had a lot of, you know, he owed a lot of money to a lot of people, but he didn't file bankruptcy and rip everybody off. He paid people back. So I look at Mike, and I think Mike has a lot of honor. I think as a. As a coach, I don't know if there's any other player. I. I would listen, I would be amazed. But I look at Mike and I look at Dion. I mean, these guys are some of the goats of what they did. And they both are the guys who were signature. Like, they're so incredible at the time. They're one of the few football players at the top with their own shoes, with their own apparel line through Nike. Like, we didn't get that as football player. That's how exceptional these two were. And I love Mike as a coach because I think he's had some life experiences that other kids. These kids need to hear. These kids need to experience someone who's been on top, who's been on the bottom, who's making their way back. And I think as a coach, it is so much probably more than he thought it was going to be. It's a lot to bite off. It's a lot of work. There's a lot of time away from your family. They're the reason I got in the tv, because I wouldn't want to be a coach. So I think that Mike is a great example of resilience. I think he's a great example paying your debt to society and getting back on your feet heat. And I. Hopefully he can turn Norfolk State back around because last year was a rough year. But I think he's also learning along with these kids as a coach, and I think they're learning from him. How, as a. As men, do you think you could

[Bobby Bones]

have played another year?

[Michael Strahan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

Why. Why didn't you.

[Michael Strahan]

I said, I walked off the field, Bobby. I didn't land.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Why?

[Michael Strahan]

We won a Super bowl, man. I had 15 years. I did everything I wanted to do. I. There was nothing left to do. What was, was I'd Won AIR awards. I'd done all the individual stuff. And after so many years of that, you kind of go, this is not really fulfilling. Only thing I hadn't done was won a Super Bowl. So once that happened, I was like, why am I sticking around for. For the money to blow my knees out and the next thing I got something that's going to mess me up for the rest of my life for a few bucks. And I, I just kind of felt confident enough that I could make something happen outside of the game of football. And thankfully I've been able to do that. But yeah, I could have played another. Physically, I felt great. There are days I wake up now and I feel like I can give them another year.

[Bobby Bones]

Who have you been able to interview that you were starstruck by when you sat down with them? You stop. What about it?

[Michael Strahan]

There we go.

[Bobby Bones]

Stop it. Like, what about an athlete? When I interviewed Derek Jeter, thought that was pretty cool. Or it's usually anybody from when I was a kid that I looked up to because when I meet them I'm like, this is crazy because I still have that inside of me. Even if I know everything's like real and you know, people are people. But like, when I meet somebody from when I was a kid, I still have those feelings.

[Michael Strahan]

I mean, you know what, the guy that my. They're really good. Like, Jeter's my buddy. I mean, don't get me started on that knucklehead, but I love him. The one guy who I love too is a good friend and, and everything else, but you see him and you're still like, whoa. And I remember the first time I interviewed him with, with first year he got into nascar and I was like, Michael Jordan. I mean, MJ is still mj and, and so that was like the one guy. And as a kid I started trying to walk a little bow legged and stuff like that and wish I'd grown to 6, 6 and about 215 so I could have played basketball. But that didn't quite work out, so I had to go to football. But mj, MJ is like one of those athletes that I look at, I'm like, okay, this is, this is Michael Jordan. This is the guy who I still get a bunch of highlights on Instagram from my buddies.

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[Bobby Bones]

okay, that. That does it. On Monday's show, we will brisket.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

We'll brisket, brisket up on Monday.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a weird time too. And don't hit us with talk about sports. Ain't crap happening. What do you want to do? Break down the draft. Okay. Mendoza at one to the Raiders.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

Right?

[Michael Strahan]

And then.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And then NBA. Like, we're almost there, but we're not there yet.

[Bobby Bones]

Playoffs.

[Kevin (Segment Producer)]

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[Eddie (Co-host)]

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[Bobby Bones]

This is that downtime where you do segments like who makes the better brisket? Yes.

[Eddie (Co-host)]

And have we gotten that suit?

[Bobby Bones]

And let's rank and let's rank races. The Mexicans are first, according to me. All right, that's all. If you think we're funny, message me in my DMs. Because sometimes I leave and I'm like, man, I don't think people think we're funny. We're stupid. Hit me in my DMs. Be like, Hey, I heard that episode. That's pretty funny. Or I didn't think it was very funny, Mr. Bobby Bones. All right, thank you guys. And that's it. Bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on instagram @bobby bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host @producer Eddie, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening, Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

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