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Brandon Ray
This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking football.
Bobby Bones
And they all wear a whistle.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, it's stupid, but why did you expect.
Bobby Bones
It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. Hey, everybody. All right, Hit it. Thank you. Not that college basketball is a big deal right now, but there was a story about Wagner basketball coach Donald Copeland. He's under investigation for mistreating his players and for verbally abusing them. This is from the New York Post. I don't think this is funny. I was already thinking what I was going to say. I don't think this is funny.
Brandon Ray
But a little bit. How bad?
Bobby Bones
But a little bit. I'm like, this is kind of just the culture of being coached also. Maybe I'm just getting old. Yeah, we should do that. Maybe I'm just getting old and I'll have something about like a sports take that we have. But he called a player a quote. I won't say it, but a pu. Okay.
Brandon Ray
Oh, wow. Okay.
Bobby Bones
He called one a B. He called one a punk, and he called one a vagina. And maybe you called the same player all four of those, but those are four terms. Now, if a coach is yelling at you, I'm like, that's coaching. That's just hard coaching. Some coaches coach uncomfortably like that. And that style doesn't work from every Coach or with every person. But if I'm on a sports team and somebody's calling me a vagina, I'm probably like, I'm playing like a vagina. I need to shape up. Yeah. Also, if I could take a few steps back, I would say I wish the vagina wasn't associated with being weak, because the vagina is not weak.
Brandon Ray
No.
Bobby Bones
But the understanding is if somebody calls you a vagina, that means weak. But the vagina is not weak. It actually, you know, that's.
Kevin
I do know that guy.
Bobby Bones
It has babies. It's a passageway.
Kevin
It does have babies. You're right.
Bobby Bones
That's my point. Fundamentally, I have a problem with the vagina being associated with being weak, but I can't remove that. All I can say is it is associated with it, and so is the P word. And so if a coach yelled that at me, I'd be like, I probably am. So. Okay, let's move on. He also allegedly told another player, if you're thirsty, swallow your spit. There's probably a time I need to hear that.
Brandon Ray
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Like, I get it.
Brandon Ray
I feel like I have heard that.
Bobby Bones
I get it. You got to give people water. But I'm sure he's not yelling this anytime any player's thirsty. It's probably why he's being a vagina. Let's be honest. And then after finding a hidden Gatorade.
Kevin
Bottle, these players are hiding Gatorade bottles.
Brandon Ray
This is great.
Bobby Bones
Keep going. He told players, you're all going to run until the Gatorade's out of his belly.
Kevin
Oh, my God.
Bobby Bones
So. But what he's doing is he's punishing the whole team for one person cheating.
Brandon Ray
That happens.
Bobby Bones
You can't do this. But I don't hear this and go that this is any different than probably 90% of cultures with hard nose coaches.
Kevin
Yeah. I can guarantee this goes on everywhere. Everywhere, Every sport.
Bobby Bones
And there may be other things I don't know about. All I know is I read part of the story because I saw the headline. I clicked into it because the New York Post had the whole article. And Wagner basketball coach Donald Copeland is under investigation for mistreating players. I say we investigate him to. For being someone that gives hard love.
Kevin
Right.
Eddie
All of that happened to me yesterday at home.
Kevin
Yeah. Yeah. His wife.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
On my eighth grade junior high team in West Texas.
Bobby Bones
You know, Brandon's wife, like, is like, drink, spit, darling.
Brandon Ray
She's not a Gatorade model.
Eddie
Yes, ma'.
Kevin
Am.
Bobby Bones
I just wanted to lead with that because I don't know the Full story. If it's worse than that, then count me under the club of people that's like, ah, maybe shouldn't be coaching, but if it's just that I played sports and also I could just be old at this point. We were talked to like that and I think for me it helped at times.
Kevin
But like, where do we draw the line? Because that's where I struggle too, is because I'm with you. I'm like, that just sounds like normal coaching to me. I get fired up.
Bobby Bones
That's a great question. I think the line is drawn because it is a nuanced, filled situation. I think the line is drawn is do you trust the person that's saying this stuff to be doing it for the right reason? Good point. I don't think it's ever a line of exactly what's happening because I think there are reasons that things happen. Why? Coaches go hard, they flip tables, they give hugs, all for different reasons. Same exact coach. Do you trust that coach to communicate with you or the person that you love? And if you do, then you have to trust them. So I think that's it.
Brandon Ray
And there's a way to do it right. Like there for every time you call them the P word, you got to say two good things about him.
Bobby Bones
I think that's a book that a therapist wrote more than that's how to Coach. Okay. So if it's worse than that, I'll retract this whole thing. What? I read that those were the main complaints. And I read that as someone that played sports in the 90s, and I was like, yeah, maybe they were being a. Yeah.
Kevin
I wonder if that's one kid, like, just.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Kevin
You know, that's another thing, too. I'm like, is he. Is he getting his teammates together or they're just one kid going behind the scenes? Like, this coach said this to me.
Bobby Bones
Or it's multiple kids who didn't get to play. Yep. Or who wanted to train. We just don't know the whole situation.
Kevin
Yeah. I hated my head coaches when I didn't play.
Bobby Bones
I never did. I thought I must suck and he just called me a P word. So I got to get better.
Brandon Ray
Same. Yeah, same. I never played anyway, so there's no difference to me.
Bobby Bones
Want to lead with that?
Brandon Ray
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Second thing, I have also not football. And I know it's very football time. Is the robot umps. I'm in.
Brandon Ray
Yes.
Bobby Bones
I could not be in anymore. Now they're not going to be full robot umps. You get two challenges and the only people that can challenge are the manager, the batter and the pitcher. So you get two challenges. If you're correct in your challenge of a ball or a strike, you get that challenge. It remains. But once you're two down, you don't get them anymore. The amount of money that is being bet on sports now, things have to be right. It's why I like the digital first downs.
Kevin
Those are awesome.
Bobby Bones
It's fun when they put it up.
Kevin
On the screen, I know, I'm like, this is cool. And takes like nothing. Yeah, five seconds.
Bobby Bones
I get it. We like humans, but whenever it's more than just entertainment. When people are betting money. There's a whole industry built on the betting of money. On these sports. Billion dollar industries. We can't have some 59 year old, slightly overweight guy with one cataract making a decision. Right. Yeah. That also might, might have had a bad day in the morning. Yeah.
Kevin
There's a human element to it.
Bobby Bones
Yep. And that's affecting his calls or her calls. So I am totally for it. Yeah.
Eddie
That's Eddie's kids school on the line, you know.
Brandon Ray
Oh, when you gamble. Yeah, I see what he's saying. It is. I mean, I get upset whenever I'm close a strike and the only reason I'm mad is because I'm going to lose the vet.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. How's the chain gang going? You still doing that?
Brandon Ray
Dude, I don't know.
Bobby Bones
I did it one time. Have you done it a second time?
Brandon Ray
No, I haven't. And they had a home game last weekend and I didn't get a call. I think the problem was my wife says that the guy knew that I was. She said that the guy knew that I was going out of town and that's why he didn't call me. But the fact that he didn't text me or call me and say, hey, are you able to do it this weekend? Worries me because we had a home game, he had a substitute, didn't even ask me if I was gonna be in town, even though I wasn't in town.
Kevin
You haven't talked to him since?
Brandon Ray
No.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I think you're probably like third back up now.
Brandon Ray
You think so?
Bobby Bones
Probably, yeah.
Brandon Ray
Gosh, dude, I was so good at it though. And that's when I told my wife, like I thought I was meant for that job.
Bobby Bones
Like not a job I want to be meant for. Like that's a job. That's an entry level job. Like if you wanted to be like a referee.
Brandon Ray
No, no, no, I couldn't do that. I couldn't handle the referee. Did I have, like. I see a butterfly, and I'm like, oh, cool. And then it's like, oh, shoot. Missed the call with this. It's like, it's me and another guy. Like, we're pulling the chain. Whenever there's slack on the chain, somebody's slacking, you know? And, like, I love that about it. It's a team effort. And when I did it, the guy said, I did great. So I loved it. And you're in the action. You get to hear all the players conversations. You get to see the game front row. I'm. I was meant for that.
Bobby Bones
It's high school still. You can see the front. Front road. No, you just stand on the fence.
Brandon Ray
No, dude, you can't hear. Like, they won't even let you get on the track unless you have a. A pass.
Kevin
You don't know anybody. You get on field.
Brandon Ray
I mean, I could probably ask someone, but you want to do.
Bobby Bones
I'm probably old now. You have sports to take.
Kevin
Yes. Yeah. I was watching all these games, especially this year, and I look at it. We talked about the jewelry before, Players wearing necklaces and all this stuff. I'm like, God, I don't know how they play with that, but lately I've been seeing grills everywhere.
Bobby Bones
Right.
Kevin
Every single player has a grill. Now. I'm like, do you wear a mouthpiece with that? Isn't that uncomfortable? How do you talk with that? Quarterbacks are wearing grills. So when did this become a thing where all these guys are wearing grills? Everyone.
Bobby Bones
But they're playing. They're wearing them in game.
Kevin
Yeah. Like, I saw a interview with a safety from the Browns, and he had a grill in his mouth after the game on the field.
Bobby Bones
Maybe someone brought it to him, though.
Brandon Ray
You think?
Bobby Bones
Possibly. Like, I'm about to go on tv, Hand me my grill. Cause if I had a really expensive one, and I was gonna go on tv, hand me my grill. I've never seen a grill in game. I'm not saying it's not, because I did watch Jackson Dart wear the biggest frigging diamond necklace as a backup quarterback. Although he did go in with it. But I'm like, I wouldn't wear that as a wide receiver. I get it. Because you may get thrown to nine times a game as a quarterback. They're coming at you every play, and they're grabbing at you every play. So I haven't seen a grill in game.
Kevin
But even, like, Camara. Doesn't he wear a grill?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I don't know if he wears it in game, though.
Kevin
I mean, I seen that guy smile in the game, and it's like, in your face.
Brandon Ray
That might be his on the tv.
Kevin
Maybe it would be cool if he.
Bobby Bones
Had, like, bedazzled a mouthpiece or put diamonds in one.
Kevin
Maybe he did, but I've seen some players lately. Even my wife noticed last week. She's like, how do they play with that? I'm like, I have no idea. That sounds miserable. But I don't know if I'm just being old and, like, it's a thing now or what.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I think it's a little bit old. Is it? I think so. Just culture changes. You guys have anything? Yeah, go ahead.
Brandon Ray
Yeah. Mine's basketball, and maybe I'm just old, but I don't like the way the coaches are now just wearing sweats when they coach a basketball game. Like, I like the suits. I like for them to come on looking good, and half of them do. But there's a handful of coaches that just, like, you know, I don't care, man. I'm just wearing whatever I wore today to coach. I don't like that.
Bobby Bones
The old Cowboys coach, they used to wear a fedora and suit and tie.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, Landry, is that what you want?
Bobby Bones
You want Tom Landry back?
Brandon Ray
I mean, it's. It's. To me, it's like, when you look at the head coach, when you look on, like, the. The sideline or whatever, you're like, okay, assistant. Assistant. Now that's the head coach. I can tell. Why? Because he looks dapper.
Bobby Bones
I always think it's interesting to watch all the coaches because there are so many coaches doing signals. Want to wear a hot pink hat? Want to wear a hot green hat? One wears a black hat, and you're like, man, a weird wardrobe choice, but it's just so they can be seen on the sideline.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, it's funny, too. Like, whenever I go to a game, I like to try to find the head coach, and it's so hard. Like, on tv, they're always on him. But, like, in person.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Kevin
In person, they all look the same.
Brandon Ray
Is that the head coach? I can't tell. Like, it's usually. He's usually not yelling to the players, just hanging back.
Bobby Bones
Brandon, you want to do one? We just do it on you.
Eddie
Yeah, man. So did you guys see what happened to the Cleveland Guardians guy?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Okay. Back when I played baseball, and all this time, I've been like, yeah, man. Like, we don't need face masks in baseball. We need them.
Bobby Bones
Like, who Wants definitely an old man take. I appreciate that. Yeah.
Kevin
Really old man.
Eddie
Reconstructive surgery on their face or even die. Just put a little. You know, they wear. They wear masks in football, in softball.
Bobby Bones
They do.
Eddie
That's true.
Brandon Ray
It is preference. Right.
Bobby Bones
College softball, not slow pitch. College softball, they wear masks and everybody does. Okay. Even the pitchers. Oh, yeah, most of them do. Even the pitchers, a lot of them wear a. It looks like a catcher's mask without the helmet. They put it over their face and throw because that rubber is. It's not really a mound, but the rubber is so much closer in slow pitch. And they're throwing so hard that a line shot, you have almost no time to react.
Eddie
Yeah, I'd be the guy. You know, the guys wearing the guardian caps in baseball. I'd have the guardian cap on. I'd have a mask.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, I'd have.
Eddie
I'd be like wrapped in bubble if.
Bobby Bones
I had to be.
Brandon Ray
You topple over because you're so top heavy.
Kevin
Just roll to first base.
Eddie
And I'm just now realizing this is definitely an old man take, but I mean, geez, you could die from a fastball.
Brandon Ray
How is that guy? Is he all right?
Bobby Bones
I don't know. I know that.
Brandon Ray
Hospitalized.
Eddie
I think he passed the test.
Brandon Ray
Brandon.
Bobby Bones
I thought I looked up too. I was like, oh, my God, he died.
Brandon Ray
But then he was giggling, so sorry.
Eddie
No past the brain test, I guess.
Bobby Bones
You do think he got through that?
Eddie
I think we would have heard. I knew he was in the hospital.
Kevin
But yeah, he's expected to recover six to eight weeks.
Bobby Bones
Oh. 99 mile fastball right to the face.
Kevin
I got hit in the face once. Did you really fall at bat? Yeah, it was a curveball. Never curved right in the face, so.
Brandon Ray
It wasn't a curveball.
Bobby Bones
I mean, the picture of it was brutal. Yeah, Like a buddy sent me that and he was like, imagine that. 99. Right. Because he was bunning. He had the bun up right in the freaking.
Kevin
The picture, like, threw his glove right over.
Brandon Ray
Oh, he. The picture felt terrible.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. When you're bunning, though, you're leaning in.
Brandon Ray
I was in.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you're leaning in.
Kevin
That's. Oh, yeah. Foreign.
Brandon Ray
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Check us out@tivo.com okay, let's talk football for a second. Something I don't normally do. I'll lead with this. Arkansas football. That's a joke.
Kevin
Okay.
Brandon Ray
I didn't know we do it all the time, dude.
Kevin
I was like, who's going to tell him.
Bobby Bones
They'Re gonna beat Notre Dame?
Kevin
Oh my goodness.
Brandon Ray
What's he doing here?
Kevin
I believe it.
Brandon Ray
Kevin. What's he doing here?
Kevin
They're gonna be he's gonna set something up. Somebody getting money maybe? What's going on?
Bobby Bones
What do you mean? Is somebody getting like, are you gonna.
Kevin
Say if Arkansas beats them then something. Something like the whole 10 grand gut.
Brandon Ray
Feeling like, what are you. What are you thinking?
Bobby Bones
It's the most Arkansas thing ever. The most. To lose the most embarrassing game in years. And it's the game that's probably getting your head coach fired just to come back and win like this Big game. Notre Dame's coming to town and a bit offset that. We're only a four and a half point underdog.
Brandon Ray
I saw that.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. It started at like seven or eight. It was at five and a half yesterday. Really, it's at four and a half now. It's shrinking. I don't think Notre Dame is that good anyway. Their defense is not good. Our defense is terrible.
Brandon Ray
So get the over.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. I wonder what the over. Let's look at the over is like 60, 61 or more.
Brandon Ray
Four and a half, I think.
Bobby Bones
Because I was going to say it's 61.
Kevin
Vegas knows.
Bobby Bones
I'd probably bet the over, but not. Not a for sure.
Brandon Ray
Two bad defenses, man. And I mean, I think Yalls offense is pretty good.
Bobby Bones
Our offense is amazing. Like, we have a great offensive coordinator. We have a really good quarterback. We have pretty good receivers. Our offensive line is legit. We have a strong offense except for the fumbling we've done to lose two games. Yeah, we've literally fumbled two games away. No, no, no. Literally, no.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, we know.
Bobby Bones
All we had to do in the Memphis game was take a knee.
Brandon Ray
Yep.
Bobby Bones
Just don't run the ball. If we take a knee and then kick a field goal, we win the game regardless. And I saw a question, and this is one I'll ask you guys. Have you ever rooted for your favorite team to lose for something bigger than that one game? And I thought about this and I never have. Like, I can't even if going into it, I have the understanding macro instead of micro. It probably would be better for the long term future of the program if this victory did not happen. I can't do it. I've wanted to do it, but I can't watch my own team and root against them. I'm rooting for us as hard as I possibly can. Even though I think we need a coaching change.
Kevin
Is it because it's against Notre Dame at all or no.
Bobby Bones
Period. Period. Like, I wish I could separate a little more and go long term versus short term, but I can't. Have you ever rooted against your absolute favorite team because you think it's better for that team if they lose?
Kevin
Yep. Last year Patriots.
Bobby Bones
Because you want a new coach.
Kevin
That and the number one pick.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
The draft.
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's such a Good one. College. We don't have that.
Kevin
And then we won.
Bobby Bones
That's right.
Kevin
And we lost the number one pick.
Bobby Bones
Wasn't that Joe Milton?
Kevin
Yeah. And I was like, what the heck? The first time I've ever rooted against my team.
Bobby Bones
That makes sense.
Kevin
And they win with a backup quarterback and we lose the number one draft pick.
Bobby Bones
I think I could do that. Because you're rooting for the number one pick. I'm never in that mix of a pick. We're just.
Kevin
That's true.
Bobby Bones
We always get the 84th portal pick regardless if we were good or bad.
Brandon Ray
So the Cowboys, we've never been that.
Bobby Bones
That bad.
Brandon Ray
We've always been right in the middle.
Bobby Bones
That's the worst kind of bad to be.
Kevin
Yeah, it's kind of like the Steelers.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Right.
Kevin
You guys are always middle of the pack.
Brandon Ray
Yes.
Bobby Bones
They're a little less than the Steelers. Whoa. They're not as good as the Steelers because the Steelers have never had a losing record. Right.
Kevin
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
It's true.
Bobby Bones
The Cowboys have had some losing records.
Brandon Ray
Yes, we have.
Bobby Bones
Have you ever rooted against the Cowboys in a single game, Eddie?
Brandon Ray
I don't think so, man. And like, I. I struggle a lot with a fantasy situation, you know, sometimes. And I'm just like, I really need the fantasy points here. But I've never rooted against the Cowboys. Nope. Never for no reason.
Bobby Bones
I think also you'd root against the Cowboys, though, if a number one pick was at play. Yes.
Brandon Ray
But we've never been in that situation as well. I've been a fan.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. That's a great point, though, because we were like fake fan, but that's a good fan. Yeah.
Kevin
Thanks, guys.
Bobby Bones
So I want Arkansas to win. I also hope we have a new head coach next year.
Kevin
Yeah, that's tough.
Bobby Bones
But I. And I think if Arkansas wins, it probably slows that process down. But I came to game. I just. I can't. I think Arkansas has a great. I would bet Arkansas and take the four and a half points. I don't feel great about it because I'm emotionally attached to it. I have a bias. Like that's not my recommended bet of the week. Not even that. That's a real segment. But yeah, I take Arkansas plus the four and a half because we're going to score some points. And I'd probably go over the over as well.
Kevin
Yeah. Notre Dame's defense stuff, they do give up points.
Bobby Bones
Brandon, what's your favorite team?
Eddie
My favorite team of all time.
Bobby Bones
Of anything.
Eddie
Of anything. I mean, I grew up a Cowboys fan.
Bobby Bones
Are you still it's so tough.
Eddie
I am.
Brandon Ray
But it didn't sound like you are.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
So it is the hardest. It's the hardest team to be a fan of.
Bobby Bones
Oh, have you tried Arkansas?
Brandon Ray
Yeah, I'd like to listen to.
Bobby Bones
I'd like to show you the men. I want to show you the menu of other teams. There's.
Brandon Ray
There are Browns fans.
Bobby Bones
There's Browns, there's Arkansas. You want that went a little Jacksonville Jaguar for dessert.
Kevin
That's a lot worse. Good point.
Eddie
Well, I will say in the 2019 season, I was like, dude, I don't want them to win because I want Garrett gone. And then we got McCarthy.
Brandon Ray
Yeah.
Eddie
And it was just like, okay, tip tat. I mean, everybody says it. As long as Jerry Jones is at the helm, it's. It's just they're going to get in their own way every season.
Bobby Bones
You know what's interesting about that is I agree because we've seen it over and over again. It's hard to argue with proven results in that the last 20 years, they haven't won. In the last 20 years, there's been some dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Some circus type antics. That being said, I have talked to some people that are extremely elevated in the NFL and they're like, it is such a well run operation.
Eddie
I've heard that too.
Bobby Bones
They make a lot of money. They run it. They run it wonderfully. It's just personnel, but even all the.
Kevin
Players you've talked to, they all want to go there. They all love Jerry, love playing for him. So that's a weird part.
Bobby Bones
You want to be a Cowboy, but what's the goal?
Eddie
I mean, everybody on every other team is like, we want to win a Super Bowl. We want to win a Super Bowl. And it's like, well, if you want to win a Super bowl, you should have kept Parsons. You know, I'm saying, for this season in particular.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that game is. That game is going to be interesting this week.
Brandon Ray
That game's not going to be fun to watch.
Bobby Bones
That's the kind of game you win, though.
Kevin
I know.
Brandon Ray
Hopefully. Dude, what do we both get?
Bobby Bones
I'm predicting the Cowboys in Arkansas win parlay.
Brandon Ray
What a weekend.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's called a two game WTF parlay. Cowboys in Arkansas.
Kevin
Come on.
Brandon Ray
In front of DraftKings.
Eddie
The Disappointment Bowl.
Bobby Bones
Will you put those in money line and see what the odds come back?
Brandon Ray
Wtf?
Bobby Bones
The WTF parlay.
Brandon Ray
It's a picture of you going like, why not?
Kevin
Who knows?
Bobby Bones
Dallas Cowboy winner. Arkansas winner. I'll bet it.
Brandon Ray
Throw the Bengals in there too.
Bobby Bones
No, can't. Because that's not like our love.
Brandon Ray
I know.
Bobby Bones
That's not like our love.
Kevin
Eddie just wants him to win.
Brandon Ray
That's so bad, dudes.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that.
Brandon Ray
That is stressing me out.
Bobby Bones
Me too. But probably not as much as you, because that wasn't like the team. You know, we've talked about it. I wanted the packers, you wanted the Bengals.
Kevin
You.
Bobby Bones
You and Kevin are definitely invested. So it was like, let's go to the Bengals. I don't think it's a terrible pick, but okay. But I also wasn't like, no to the Bengals. I really wasn't. I just said, I think it's a Packers. And you're like, I think it's a Bengals. I'm like, cool, you're investing in this too. We'll go with your pick. So I wasn't fighting the bengals.
Brandon Ray
I know.
Kevin
Plus 900.
Brandon Ray
Oh, that's. Dude, that's amazing.
Bobby Bones
That's significant. I'm gonna have to bet that the WTF bet of the week. I don't think DraftKings will put it up because they want a 3 gamer from us. Yeah, I have a 3 gamer coming up. We did hit ours last week, but I think for our show, by the way. Don't bet it.
Brandon Ray
Don't bet what?
Bobby Bones
The WTF parlay of the week. Because you're gonna lose twice. Do you have two ghost legs and then you just break even?
Kevin
Aren't a lot of Arkansas fans also Cowboys fans, though?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Kevin
So that's good.
Bobby Bones
Mostly Arkansas fans are Cowboys fans. Yeah. Regional double one. Jerry Jones two.
Kevin
Oh, yeah. Duh.
Bobby Bones
Jerry. Not only Jerry, who was on the Arkansas national championship team for 1964. Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, the two Cowboys coaches that won Super Bowls were also Arkansas guys.
Kevin
A lot of ties.
Bobby Bones
A lot of times the football center is the. The Jones center. The Jones Complex.
Kevin
Oh, is it?
Bobby Bones
Of course.
Brandon Ray
Donate some money.
Kevin
I was going to say probably donate a lot of money.
Brandon Ray
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Back to it then. Okay, so we're going to. I'm going to bet the wtf. We have. I have not rooted against my team. I want Arkansas to win, and I think they're probably going to win or play really well.
Eddie
I really do think that, too.
Bobby Bones
I got a message from Brandon Walker at Barstool, who's college football savant. I'm gonna read it to you. And this was unsolicited. Cause he just messaged me last night kind of late. Oh, I can't. I'm not gonna get to it because I got so many pregnancy messages.
Brandon Ray
Oh, you won't be able to find it.
Bobby Bones
Okay, I got it.
Eddie
Wait, what? What happened?
Bobby Bones
Who's. Oh, yeah, yeah. You haven't heard?
Eddie
No. What?
Bobby Bones
Who's.
Eddie
Is somebody.
Bobby Bones
Eddie just adopted two kids.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, man.
Eddie
God, again?
Bobby Bones
No, no, he's got four now. It's delayed news.
Kevin
Wow.
Eddie
Congrats, man.
Bobby Bones
Brandon said, I think y' all beat Notre Dame Saturday. You have a great quarterback, they have a bad defense. You're fighting for Pittman's job. And he's like, he'll be fired by November, but this is a sneaky, winnable game.
Brandon Ray
Interesting.
Bobby Bones
I think so, too. Yeah. And the line keeps moving that direction.
Kevin
Yeah. That's.
Bobby Bones
If Notre Dame loses. Let's remove Arkansas from this. If Notre Dame loses, what a disaster it is for them. They're out. That's three losses.
Brandon Ray
They've got to be done.
Bobby Bones
They're out. They can't even climb back in. And they're the one team that can climb back in because they're independent, because they're not in a tier system in a conference, so. All right, we'll move on from that. I feel bad for Gundy at Oklahoma State. I think it was time because he did not modify how he coaches. I'm not talking about on the field. I'm talking about with personnel. The Portal nil until it was too late.
Eddie
The Gatorade.
Bobby Bones
The Gatorade. I don't know. You're talking the Gatorade.
Brandon Ray
What do you mean?
Kevin
Oh.
Eddie
Oh, this is the coach that called him vaginas.
Bobby Bones
Sorry. He probably called a few people vagina.
Kevin
21 years of coaching. Yes.
Bobby Bones
Ollie Gordon got in trouble for, I think, a dui, and he was like, oh, yeah. Who hasn't driven drunk? I used to drive drunk all the time.
Brandon Ray
You can say that.
Bobby Bones
It was something like that. It was last year. Yeah. I feel bad for Gundy because I think it's 21 years between being a player, an assistant coach, and a head coach because he was a quarterback at Oklahoma State. Like, he gave his whole life to that school. I do think it was time for them to move on. And what I read was they offered him the ability to finish out the season and then announce his retirement. And he was like, f that he would. Yeah. He's like, I'm not doing that.
Kevin
That seems like his style.
Bobby Bones
So, yeah, rest in peace, Coach Gandhi. I think he'll coach again somewhere else, but it's weird to see him anywhere else because I only know him as Oklahoma State's guy. I only know him as I'm a man, I'm 40. I only know him as the mullet. I only know him as the guy that has quarterback, assistant. Was he at the. Was he the coordinator? Was the offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator? What's his specialty? Offensive defense? I don't know. And then head coach. So you ever been fired? Fired from a job?
Brandon Ray
I've never been fired. Fired. I almost got fired. Like, where. The point. To the point where somebody had to cover for me to keep my job. I was kind of like the la. It was working news, and it was the last straw. Like, it's like three strikes, you're out, basically. And this is like anything. I had wrecked a vehicle.
Bobby Bones
I had.
Brandon Ray
Maybe been late, like, five times, and then I broke a camera, and it was all on me. But the reporter said, like, no, I did it. And I was like, that is amazing. So I kept my job.
Bobby Bones
Those cameras, pretty expensive?
Brandon Ray
Oh, yeah, dude. $40,000 cameras.
Bobby Bones
How'd you break it?
Brandon Ray
So I was doing a live shot, and you had to connect it to a wire to, like, a cable to the truck. And I had reeled in the. The cable in, not knowing it was still connected to the camera, and it pulled the camera.
Eddie
No way, dude.
Brandon Ray
It shattered. Shattered the whole camera.
Kevin
A slow fall.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
And then. So you see it. I felt the tug. I'm like, why is that stuck on something? It was stuck on the camera. And then I get back to the station, and the news director's like, all right, we gotta talk. And then the reporter said, no, no, we gotta talk. I did it. I was helping him with the. The deal, and, like, it broke.
Bobby Bones
Who's the reporter?
Brandon Ray
Just one of our reporters, man.
Bobby Bones
You don't want to say?
Brandon Ray
Nope.
Bobby Bones
Why? That's like. That's like a positive.
Brandon Ray
It was awesome. It was awesome. But, like, yeah, definitely should not have done that. And they did, and I kept my job because of it. But I've never. I've been laid off before, but never gotten fired. Fired like that.
Bobby Bones
You owe that reporter.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Didn't even want to shout him out.
Kevin
I know.
Bobby Bones
All right, Kevin.
Kevin
Yeah. I've never been fired. I've gotten furloughed. That's the closest thing to it. During COVID 90 days, but that's it.
Bobby Bones
Never fired from this job.
Kevin
No. Before I moved here, California for FOX Sports Radio.
Bobby Bones
Weren't you here for Covid?
Brandon Ray
I thought you were.
Kevin
No, I got here in 21.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I don't know what year covered was. I remember Kevin when he was interviewing, because he just interviewed to basically Edit the countdown.
Kevin
Not even the count. Just like, show stuff. Radio show stuff.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I don't remember any. This guy shows up with all these tattoos, and I'm like. He sits in the office. I'm like, I don't know, whatever. We need a warm body. Yeah, yeah, it's just like a low level entry job.
Brandon Ray
I remember checking out his Instagram and it was a picture of him. Like a picture in the. In the mirror with like a suit on and be like, I got this today.
Kevin
Yeah, you're way right, baby.
Bobby Bones
We all get way less douchey when we get older for sure.
Kevin
Oh, yeah. I was still, like, I don't know, 27.
Bobby Bones
Do you remember that picture?
Kevin
Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about. I look good, huh?
Bobby Bones
You still had a little tattoo California douchebag in you.
Kevin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not anymore, right, guys?
Brandon Ray
No, man. You're all Boston. Not at all. Tennessee guy.
Bobby Bones
No. You really don't.
Kevin
Good, thanks.
Bobby Bones
A lot of reasons. Just general maturation has happened too. But I did not think you would be as dependable as you are. You didn't look like a dependable person.
Brandon Ray
The tattoos.
Bobby Bones
Wow. All of it. Yeah, the tattoos, the haircut, you know, it was from California. You're like, okay, this guy, we can use a warm body until he quits or gets fired.
Kevin
I was gonna say, how long do you think I like. In your mind, do you remember if you were like, oh, he'll last six months or whatever?
Bobby Bones
I kind of didn't care because it wasn't a position that I felt like I needed to worry about that you came in for. It was very much an entry level position.
Kevin
It was.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And he moved up so quick because he showed up on time, got everything done. It was like, what else do you need? And so now Kevin's, like, very much integral to everything that I do in so many ways. So he's like one of the guys for sure, who I depend on. But at the time, I was like, end today, gone tomorrow.
Brandon Ray
Did he come recommended or like, did you?
Bobby Bones
No, I. Dude, I didn't even. I cared so little about that position that he just showed up and somebody was interviewing him or something. I was like, I don't care, but I'm happy to say hi to whoever it is. Yeah, you know me. It's like, I have any time when I'm up here. Everything is back to back to back to back to back. And so I was in my office, which I'm not much, and they're like, hey, this is Kevin. He's Yeah, yeah, come in. Hey, man, where are you from? I did sports there. All right, Good luck to you. Never thought I'd see him again.
Kevin
Yeah, that was it. It really was. With Rod, too. And you're like, all right, cool. What else? I'm like, I don't know. Scuba, where you at? Come get me.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, here he is.
Kevin
Here we are four years later. Four and a half years later.
Bobby Bones
Just shows you, though, man. If you just get in. Yeah, that's it. Get in. And people are so. I'll say they're just. People in general that you hire are not dependable. So if you get in and show you're dependable and you have consistent effort. The world is a freaking oyster. Just in life, like, you can do anything you want to do by showing up, expressing your goals, and just doing it because people are not dependable. And here he is, Kevin, now a millionaire.
Brandon Ray
Look at him, Kev. Yeah, he is a likable person. Like.
Bobby Bones
Yes. But you don't like him by looking at him. Not when you first met him. I wanted to not, like, all covered in tats with his California haircut.
Brandon Ray
Kind of good looking dude.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin
I got that vibe from a few people here, for sure.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Here it was kind of a douchebag vibe. Yeah. Not anything you were doing extra. Right. But it's just like here, people didn't act. Yeah. They had like a chain on, you know, tight T shirt, tattoos, gel in your hair.
Kevin
I didn't mean. No, I don't have enough. I didn't. Did I have. Yeah, I had some hair, I guess. First couple years, huh?
Bobby Bones
For sure.
Kevin
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
And you were really ripped. Not that you aren't anymore.
Kevin
Just more ripped, let's be honest. Yeah. Now it's. I don't have the time to just go work out whenever I want and all that.
Bobby Bones
You can be a douchebag and not be. That also happens here, too. You can actually break out of that shell.
Kevin
Yes, you can.
Bobby Bones
Why'd you move here?
Kevin
I just needed to get out of California. I wanted to leave there. I wanted to be able to, like.
Bobby Bones
You'Re running from the law, dude. It's like, I don't want to ask any more questions because you got.
Kevin
You know, the judge was like, you got to get out of here. So I was like, all right, I'm out. No, I don't know. I wanted to buy a house, be able to buy a house at an affordable rate, which I've done since then, which is great. I wanted to meet a wife, which I'VE done has been great. Start a family, all that good stuff and just live like a more fulfilled life. And honestly, I have more than I could have ever imagined.
Brandon Ray
You couldn't have done that in California? I understand the price of the house.
Kevin
But I just feel like I was stuck there mentally and I was just in a rotation of just like the same old thing with the same old people. And I wasn't going to get to where I wanted to get. And I gave myself a year in Nashville, 365 days. If I didn't like it, I was going to maybe move back or move somewhere else. Here we are, four and a half years later.
Bobby Bones
It was that tough rotation of perfect weather, beach and women everywhere.
Brandon Ray
He couldn't do it anymore.
Bobby Bones
I couldn't. It was so hard for him.
Brandon Ray
Tough life.
Kevin
I had to get away from that guy. Too much. 30 years of that was just too much.
Brandon Ray
At any point did you want to go to Boston?
Kevin
Was that. I did think about that, but the, the winters, man, it's too brutal.
Bobby Bones
Why you come? I can't do that.
Kevin
Of all places, I had a like a handful of friends here. I had a good friend that I moved in with here, so that made it easy too. And it just seemed like I visited one time and I was like, yeah, I'll give Nashville a shot.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
And here we are.
Bobby Bones
Nothing tying you down back there?
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Ready to get out of the cycle of beach, women and good weather.
Eddie
The worst.
Bobby Bones
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Eddie
Nice.
Bobby Bones
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Eddie
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Bobby Bones
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Brandon Ray
Oh no. Brandon, you're going to hit it.
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Bobby Bones
Now to Texas Tech head football coach Joey McGuire. The Red Raiders are ranked 12th in the new poll after beating Utah 3410 on the road last week. Everybody's talking about Texas Tech. They're dominating. They do the portal right because they have money. I wish we had the money that they had that oil money for us four.
Brandon Ray
Oh, that'd be great.
Bobby Bones
You just buy players, come in here and watch them do football one on one.
Eddie
That'd be so cool.
Kevin
It's right in the middle.
Bobby Bones
Yes, they're on a bye week, but they play Houston next week. They have a pretty favorable schedule the rest of the year, which is good. They still got a couple of tough games in there, but the schedule gods have been nice to them for the Rest of the year. But they pounded Utah. The game was close at first. They pounded Utah, so it's not like you're going to second guess anything. Even with a weaker ish schedule. The fact that they whooped Utah like that, and if Utah keeps winning, I think that's a big enough win for people to know they're legit big. Thanks to coach for coming on. Here he is, Coach Joey McGuire. Let us welcome one of my favorite coaches. He's now the hunter. The hunted has turned into The Hunter. Coach McGuire.
Kevin
What's up, coach?
Coach Joey McGuire
And what's up, brother? So good to see you and be on your show. I appreciate it, man.
Bobby Bones
And it's good to see you, too. I was watching that game last week. Were you a little tight when the backup quarterback had to go in?
Coach Joey McGuire
Coach, I have total faith in Will Hammond, but that, that was a crazy game. You know, you go through different games and I'm always pretty exhausted. But I was exhausted. My neck, shoulders, and everywhere else you could carry tension. I was carrying a lot of tension through that game.
Bobby Bones
Man, what a performance. Like, second half. And again, I was watching a lot of it because that was just a big national game. Anyway, what's really cool is that a lot of the big national games like, you guys are that conversation now. So I was interested. I was wanting to see what Utah had. I want to see what Texas Tech had against, you know, two good teams. Second half, you guys kind of had it like, where. What was it about the second half? Was it you guys schemed differently at halftime? Was it you guys are in better shape? What do you think?
Coach Joey McGuire
I think it was a mixture. You know, we. We had two opportunities in the first half to kind of make some big plays. One for a touchdown, to kind of increase our lead. And, you know, we threw a couple interceptions and then we had less penalties in the second half. I mean, he ended up with 14 penalties, eight procedure penalties. That place was a really loud environment, and we kind of got out of our own way more in the second half. There were. There were times that we could have opened it up. First half, we just didn't do it, you know, and that's a learning experience, which is going to be good and going to help us down the line.
Bobby Bones
Kind of a weird question, but that Utah football stadium is pretty awesome, right?
Coach Joey McGuire
Man, it is like both Utah and byu. I mean, because the settings behind the stadiums, you've got the mountains. So it's beautiful. That Utah Stadium, they're really built. It's built where, like, the crowd is on top of you. And then that's the first time I'd been there. I heard a lot of great things about it. But their student section is. Is pretty dang loud.
Bobby Bones
So what's different about this year? Like, how does it feel different? Because you guys, you have the roster, you're executing. Do you feel a bit more like people? Have you dialed in now with the bullseye on your back?
Coach Joey McGuire
There's a lot of things that we use that we know are being said about us, you know, and so I try to use it. Not Oprah, use it, but use it to where we can push some buttons. But, you know, one thing we could talk about, and my messaging has been the same for four years. We don't. We don't deviate a lot from who we are. And one of the messages is, if we're the best version of ourselves, then we have a chance every single week. And that. That's the thing with this team. They really get that. They really, you know, like, we were going into one game against Oregon State, and I was kind of messing with my. One of my corners, Bryce Pollock, and Oregon State's got a really good receiver. And I said, hey, man, are you ready for this matchup? He looked at me and he goes, coach, I have to cover Caleb Douglas and Reggie Virgil every day. Do you honestly think that guy's better than those two? And it kind of hit me in the face like, man, he's right. I mean, these guys understand how good they are and how they play off of each other. So that's making a big difference.
Bobby Bones
Where on the priority list is it for you to make sure your guys have maybe an advantage or are just ready to. To take a shot at the NFL?
Coach Joey McGuire
It's hot. You know, we talk about it all the time. You know, number one, you're coming here to get a great education. And one B, you're preparing yourself to be a pro. Now, we talk about being a pro, like being a great dad, being a great husband. You know, I mean, you're a pro at what you do. But these guys that. That we have on this team, there's a lot of them that have the ability and athletic and mindset to be in the NFL. So we want to make sure we're preparing them for that. You walk into our team meetings, everybody's going to have a notebook. Everybody's taking notes, everybody's locked in. Teach them how to watch film, watch an extra film. One of my big deals that I talk about. Excuse me. Every single day, is taking care of Your body. Because you and I both know there's a lot of guys in the NFL that are still in the NFL because they can to stay healthy. And there's a lot of guys that have been cut over the history of the NFL because they can't stay healthy. And they might be better than one guy, but they just can't stay healthy. So we, we spend a lot of time with that.
Bobby Bones
What do you guys do during an off week, get a bye week this week? Do you go back to the basics or you give them a little time off or what?
Coach Joey McGuire
Yeah, so we practiced. The young guys on Monday just had a, you know, scrimmage, if anybody did not play in the game practice. And then Tuesday and Wednesday were the exact same from the standpoint through everybody practice, knowing that was the basics, that was the individual and some seven on seven stuff and just trying to, you know, get back to the things. Like any red flags over the first four weeks we want to address, then I give the, on Tuesday, Wednesday, the old guys, the vets go run with the straight staff and the young guys have like a 20 play scrimmage and then today they had a heavy lift and then they're off. So they've got, they still got class today and everything like that, but they'll be able to get out of here for a couple of days or they'll, you know, hang in town. I got a big group going hunting with Baron Norton, our quarterback, about two hours away and then we're back at it on Sunday. But we, we needed, you know, I mean, I know this is an early buy, but whenever you're in college football, you spent a month hitting each other in camp and then you just spent four weeks playing games. It was good to have a buy.
Bobby Bones
Back in high school we had a bye week. We'd wear our jerseys and go to the next team. We were playing like sit in the bleachers. You guys don't want to go sit in the Houston bleachers? Get ready for that game, man.
Coach Joey McGuire
We might, but then I would get in trouble like Michigan did a couple years ago for advance. And so I don't want to do unless it's going to give me a national championship. And then, you know, who knows what you do for that.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's true. Do you get any time off during a bye week? That's different. Will you take a little time yourself Saturday?
Coach Joey McGuire
You know, like I'm going to recruit. Most of my coaches left last night to recruit today and tomorrow I'll, I'll go recruit tomorrow. And then I'll get home pretty late Friday night and literally I will sit on my back porch and in the morning drink coffee and probably in the afternoon smoke a cigar and watch football all day long.
Bobby Bones
Are you all football all the time, even when it's not your football?
Coach Joey McGuire
Yeah, I love it. I meet up with it, you know, especially college football. I love watching. It's just the pageantry and, and you know, it's, it's almost like a movie at different stadiums and, you know, it's. I'm heat up with it. You know, I watch a little bit of pros. I, pro wise, I'm trying to watch our guys. Anybody what's playing, you know, I'll tune in, watch a couple of, you know, have it in the background while I'm watching film. But yeah, I don't have a lot of hobbies. You know, it's hanging out with my dog and my wife and watching football.
Bobby Bones
Is it different every year, what the players do as leaders? You have some years where you just trust your captains to actually have meetings with the team and some, maybe your captains aren't as established. Is it based on, you know, who the captains are every year?
Coach Joey McGuire
100%. You know, we, we've got a really strong group. Three of my captains are back. I had five captains last year. Three of them return. Baron Morton, Jacob Rodriguez and Bryce Ramirez. But one thing that we did, there were some really strong alpha males that came in and they had big voices. They had been captains at their previous schools and so we wanted to make sure they had a voice. And so like a guy like Scott, Schuyler, Gill Howard has been huge for us. And so this is a player led team. You know, I can send out one text to my leadership group. Whatever that text says, it's going to get taken care of.
Bobby Bones
Do you have now that the portal has been functioning for a few years now at a high level, do you have like a, like a time when, when new guys kind of feel part of the team? Is it three or four weeks in? Is it like a couple weeks into the season? Is there like a time when you expect everybody to kind of have gelled?
Coach Joey McGuire
Yeah, you know, we, we did the majority, almost all of it, in January last year on purpose. We wanted to be able to spend a whole offseason bringing these guys together. But this is a really cool story. So I've got a receiver, Hayden Wigginton, he's a country music artist. He's got a couple of albums out. He's really good. I mean, as soon as the season's over in January, he's going to move to Nashville. He's very talented, and he was opening up for Randall Earl King in Lubbock, and a bunch of my guys went out there, and I've known Haiti since he was 4, so I went out there to listen to him. My wife and I did. And I see the guys, and they've been around each other for about three and a half weeks. And one of his songs, he started playing Talk Bunny, and they're singing along with it. And these are new guys, these are transfers. And I'm like, man, that says a lot about them. If they already have gotten so close, they're singing one of his songs. And really, at that point that night, I went home and I said, hey, Debbie, we got something special here. This is not a normal deal that guys already are this close.
Bobby Bones
Whenever you start the season, what do you set the goals as? Is it to win the conference? Is it to cfp? Like, what do you say to the guys?
Coach Joey McGuire
Yeah, you know, when it start with coach speak and say, we want to go on and oh, you know, which we do, we right now come in our building, says one and oh, and it has us because it's a. By week, next week it's going to go one and oh, and it's going to have Houston logo and crossed out. But we want to win the Big 12. You know, a long time ago, a coach told me, you know, you. You've got to put things in front of these guys that they got to understand. It's not just, you know, at the time and in high school, it wasn't just to get in the playoff. It was to win the district championship, you know, and so we talk about what we need to do to win the Big 12, you know, to get to Arlington, and then once you get into that game, take care of business, you're going to be in playoffs and you, you know, refocus and start working on that. But it's. It's to win the Big 12.
Bobby Bones
Coach, I got a lot of helmets up here from coaches that just sent them up. There ain't a Texas Tech helmet up here. I ain't, you know, you're my guy. I'd love to have one, you know, And Coach Leipold sent one.
Coach Joey McGuire
Send me the address. Get your guys to send me the address, and I will get one sent out today.
Bobby Bones
Love it. Because, like, when I. If I were, like, ranking top five people, I like, you're in it, coach. You're in it.
Coach Joey McGuire
So we go I love it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, congratulations so far. I hope everybody, I hope you stay healthy and even when you did in the last game like you had to get next one up and it was pretty awesome to see. Yeah, I'm rooting for you guys. Coach, congratulations so far. I hope you guys have a great rest of the year.
Coach Joey McGuire
Thank you brother. Send me that address. I'll get you a helmet.
Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
Games this weekend, it's kind of a bad NFL slate if there's such thing. So we can quickly go through them. But Seahawks and Cardinals, I'm not that interested in that game. It's. I don't know. It's fine. It's so west coast. But it's Thursday night. That's Thursday night. Sunday Vikings at Steelers. The Vikings are a two and a half point favorite.
Kevin
Only cool thing is that's in Dublin. Oh, first game in Dublin.
Bobby Bones
It's like the 8 o' clock game. 8am I can't believe the Vikings are the favorite.
Kevin
I know.
Bobby Bones
I saw J.J. mcCarthy still out. Another because he. I think he's going to be with the team but not playing. But he's going to rehab. I would just stay home. Yeah. And you got a new kid.
Brandon Ray
Maybe he's never been to Ireland.
Bobby Bones
Maybe. I think he can afford it though. If you want to go to Austin. Yeah, probably. Panthers at Patriots.
Kevin
Me and you. Bobby, let's go.
Bobby Bones
No, you know I'm a big keep Pounding guy. But we have our money on our team. That's fair. Commanders at Falcons. Like I kind of don't care. Commanders are a point in half favorite but I kind of don't care about that game. Saints at Bills again, terrible game. Bills are a 50 and a half point favorite. Browns at Lions. I mean the interesting thing of this is that are the Browns maybe not as terrible as we thought, but also not a great game. Lions a nine and a half point favorite. Chargers at Giants. The only thing interesting about this game is Jackson Dart is starting. Yeah. Because the Chargers are really good, but not a terribly interesting game. Here's one of the two games. Eagles at Bucs. Two undefeated teams.
Eddie
That could be good.
Bobby Bones
The Eagles probably win this game because I think the Eagles are the better team. And how many times can you beg Baker Mayfield to save the game for you?
Brandon Ray
He might do it again though.
Bobby Bones
But that's in that. Okay, this is a good game tier I'd like to. The Bucks win. Eagles three and a half point favorite. Titans at Texans. What the heck is that?
Kevin
A winless bowl.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. Terrible.
Kevin
Tough.
Bobby Bones
Jaguars are 49ers. Niners haven't lost. But who cares? Like Matt Jones is my quarterback. Have the Jaguars lost? Yes. Bengals Week one. Right. Bears at Raiders. Who cares? Colts at Rams is one of those interesting games because the Colts 3, 0. Who would have thought Are probably pretty good. The Rams, because they lost that game to the Eagles does not mean they're a bad team. I think the Rams are really good.
Kevin
They're good.
Eddie
Yeah, they're really good.
Bobby Bones
So that's in that tier of. Hey, how about that? Packers at Cowboys. If it weren't for the general knowledge of Eddie Love and the Cowboys. I get Brandon too. If we didn't just know that, we probably wouldn't care that much. And also our WTF Game of the week marquee Monday night. Jets of Dolphins. Terrible.
Kevin
Awful.
Bobby Bones
And Bengals and Browns.
Brandon Ray
Did you forget Ravens, Chiefs, Broncos.
Kevin
Bengals at Broncos.
Bobby Bones
Oh, Bengals and Broncos. Thank you. Who?
Brandon Ray
Ravens. Chiefs.
Bobby Bones
It's not on my list. That is a game. Yeah.
Brandon Ray
Ravens at Chiefs.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I don't have it on my list so I guess I'm not playing it. This just stand if it didn't print.
Brandon Ray
There we go.
Bobby Bones
They don't play. Yeah, that is a good. That's a good game because they're both one and two. I don't have it on my sheet, but they're both one and two. One of those teams are going to be one and three. And let's be honest, it's probably going to be the Chiefs.
Brandon Ray
Oh, I hope not.
Bobby Bones
It. It probably is.
Brandon Ray
Dude, I felt so bad for Derrick Henry. Like, he looked like he just wanted to.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
Want to get away. It's like, you want to go anywhere.
Bobby Bones
But there after the fumble.
Brandon Ray
Yes. Two of them.
Kevin
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
Two games.
Bobby Bones
It's like he plays for Arkansas, man. He's not the best slate of NFL games. No, there's a couple. We got our parlay. We're good. Let's see. Anything else? What about tipping at casino tables? Oh, yeah.
Brandon Ray
I just wanted to ask you guys, like, what's. What's the point in tipping the dealer at a casino table? Because I. I don't. I don't do it, but I saw people do it, so I kind of felt. Whenever I had, like, a win where I won, like, more than $50, I guess I throw them, like, a couple bucks. Like, what's the point, though?
Bobby Bones
What do you think the point is? And I can tell you what I think the point is.
Brandon Ray
Maybe just to help the vibe. Like, you give them money, they're happier because you're not changing your luck by giving them a couple dollars.
Bobby Bones
I think you said something, though. You don't change luck anyway. Like, you never change luck. No. Right.
Brandon Ray
It is what it is, and it's not. I think. I think they get paid. Whatever they're gonna get paid. They're not dependent on your. On your tip.
Bobby Bones
Right.
Brandon Ray
It's not like a server, but they do get it. Sure.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
And then it's another question, too. Like, if you're at a craps table, there's four, four or five dealers. Do they divvy it up, or does just the person in front get it?
Bobby Bones
They pull it. Yeah. Like pull. Like, put it in a pool.
Brandon Ray
They share it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Not like, pull pork. My accent can get in the way there.
Kevin
I was thinking of the. That.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So you do it. One, for luck, just to kind of help your luck. Like, I'm winning. I want to be generous. Two, it's just a human thing. Right. You're winning, and you're like, I'm getting all this, so why would I not break a little something off for somebody else who's a part of me getting all this? But very much a vibe thing, too.
Brandon Ray
Okay.
Bobby Bones
So those three things. But there's really no real reason to tip somebody that isn't controlling your fate in any way. Now, there are times where if you're at a craps table or you're at a card table, the dealer can actually help you. Meaning, hey, you forgot your bet or I wouldn't hit that. You know, they're given the liberty at times to not allow you to sink the ship.
Brandon Ray
That makes sense.
Bobby Bones
But that's really not the reason you do it. And you do it just because you're a good person. You also do it because you feel like if you do it, it helps your luck, which it doesn't. But luck isn't. Luck's not gonna be affected anyway.
Brandon Ray
Yeah. So it's just like, you know, haircut. I get restaurant, get the table. I never really understood. But that makes sense.
Bobby Bones
It's all luck and vibe.
Brandon Ray
That makes sense. And they do. Some of them do do a little extra work. Like, even the roulette table. I'll throw it over and, like, will you put that on number three for me?
Kevin
Just because you can't reach it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. And they'd probably do that anyway, right, Even if you didn't?
Brandon Ray
No problem.
Kevin
You tip your. The drink server Every time.
Brandon Ray
100 every time?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, every time.
Brandon Ray
That's a free drink.
Bobby Bones
But it's not free if you tip every time.
Kevin
Exactly.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, but it's a dollar, dude. A dollar. Vodka soda, pretty cheap.
Kevin
They water those things way more soda than vodka.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, those are very watered down. If you pay for one at the bar, they're not watered down. Not that I know. Other than just being with people while they're getting them.
Brandon Ray
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But, yeah, I always.
Brandon Ray
That's how you get a beer.
Bobby Bones
I tip. Oh, in a bottle. Bottle, yeah.
Brandon Ray
Can't water that down smart.
Kevin
Or can they?
Bobby Bones
Or can.
Brandon Ray
We were at a bar one time, and a friend of mine was like, this is watered down big time. Like, this doesn't even taste like beer.
Bobby Bones
Really?
Brandon Ray
Like, wow.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I tip at least a buck if I'm getting a Coke or a. I get Charlie Temples at the casino.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, that looks like a vodka soda.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I got a little cherry in it, too. I like to eat the cherry at the table.
Kevin
What if you don't have any dollar chips? Break, guys. Throw a five.
Bobby Bones
You can break it. I've done a five. If I'm really up. Yeah, I'll throw a five. Usually it's a couple bucks. Okay. But you always got to tip that because they won't come back to you.
Brandon Ray
Right.
Bobby Bones
Or they will, but it'll be very slow. It'll be much slower.
Kevin
Yeah. And they'll let you know they're mad.
Bobby Bones
They will. Yeah.
Brandon Ray
Here's another question for you guys. So, like, if you order a drink and you're. You're going your Plane. And then they go and take your order, and then you lose all your money and you're like, well, I'm done.
Kevin
That's the worst.
Brandon Ray
Can you, like, what's in this situation? Is it cool? Just sit there for like, a couple minutes longer until your drink gets there?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Brandon Ray
Okay.
Bobby Bones
You can't take up a spot at the table, like, hold spot at the table, but you can stand there and they bring the drink back because they know who you are and the spot they're bringing it to. Yes, you can get your drink, but you can't if you're at a craft table. You know, you have your slot. You can't sit there and hold it because somebody else needs that spot to gamble.
Brandon Ray
All right. Oh, another thing I saw, too, was a guy, I thought he left a dollar. Like, he just left a dollar on his little tray in the craps table. You know how you have your little tray right in front of you and then he just left. Left a dollar. And I was like, this dude left his dollar there. He's like, no, that. That means he's coming back.
Bobby Bones
Oh, it's a placeholder.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, I didn't know that. So they put a little plastic cover over his $1 chip.
Bobby Bones
He held just an empty spot. I've seen people do that when they left, like, hundreds of thousands of dollars there.
Kevin
Yeah, but $1?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's weird.
Brandon Ray
He was gonna. I guess he was going to the at because he came back with more cash.
Bobby Bones
Our buddy.
Brandon Ray
Oh, man, this is funny. This is funny. Kevin.
Bobby Bones
Can I tell the story?
Kevin
I know openly.
Brandon Ray
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
We went to the casino. Our buddy Steve, really? He was really drunk.
Brandon Ray
Let me give you an idea. He shows up to the casino with a. With a case of beer.
Kevin
Nice.
Brandon Ray
And puts it right under the table where he's gambling. And he just gets his own beers. Server would come by, be like, no, I'm good. I got my own.
Kevin
I didn't know you could do that.
Brandon Ray
You can't do that.
Kevin
Okay. I was like, I need to start doing that.
Bobby Bones
You can't.
Kevin
But he did.
Bobby Bones
Had a lot of money because he had won a lot of money, was really drunk, went up, like, walked away from the table, then ended up going upstairs, going to bed, came back, forgot they had the money. They held the spot. They held all his money, came back down and then had to learn that was all his money.
Brandon Ray
He took like a two hour nap, went down to the table. He's like, let me try again. He goes down there like, Steve, I didn't know when you were coming back. Here's all your money. You left all his money was still there a lot.
Bobby Bones
He's like, what? Yeah.
Kevin
In the spot still.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, that helped.
Kevin
Like, they didn't just like, okay, well, we're gonna hold it over here for now.
Bobby Bones
Same spot. They walk on the back. Just took you a while.
Brandon Ray
Dude. Man, you're back two hours.
Eddie
That's pretty cool.
Kevin
That's awesome.
Bobby Bones
He was, like, surprised. He had so much money too.
Brandon Ray
He had no idea. My wife reminded me that one time. One time we were. I guess it was one of our fantasy trips.
Bobby Bones
Not fantasy football. We go and do fantasy football trip.
Brandon Ray
And she. I told her that I won, like, 800, which I did. I bet on black, not black. It was a hard ten. Put a hundred dollars on black, on hard ten, hit it. And I lost all my money. I'm like, I had no idea where that money is. Turns out it was in my boot. When I got back, I had all this. These chips that I put in my boot. I guess that night I was so drunk, I got all my money stuck in my boot. I had no idea.
Bobby Bones
So you said all that you had all the chips?
Brandon Ray
Yes, I still had all the chips in my boot.
Bobby Bones
How'd you get your money?
Brandon Ray
I guess the next time we went.
Bobby Bones
I don't remember for that long.
Brandon Ray
I guess my wife's like, yeah, you don't remember that? I'm like, no.
Bobby Bones
I'm glad we don't have casinos here.
Brandon Ray
Oh, we'd be in trouble.
Bobby Bones
Like, it's novel.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
To go and do something occasionally. But I'm glad we don't have them here.
Brandon Ray
But I've also heard people that live in Vegas is this. We just don't go. Like, never gamble.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Ray
When they live in Vegas.
Bobby Bones
But they're probably not gamblers like us. I think people that say that, like. Yeah, yeah. It's like people that live in Nashville don't go to Broadway. Well, they're not big drinkers anyway.
Brandon Ray
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Or they go to a Off Broadway bar.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So you'd probably go to a smaller casino that wasn't on Broadway.
Brandon Ray
The one in the neighborhood.
Kevin
You know, you're at a local casino. Like when you. When you walk in those small ones in Vegas.
Brandon Ray
I love those.
Kevin
Oh, yeah. These are like. These people are here five days a week.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
I know. All right, we're done. Thank you, guys. I gotta remember about the WTF parlay of the week.
Brandon Ray
Don't forget.
Bobby Bones
Basically, a dollar wins you a million.
Brandon Ray
Pretty much.
Eddie
For real?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Those Odds are bad.
Bobby Bones
Hey, Brandon, give us a bet. Give us one of Brandon's bets.
Brandon Ray
Oh, please, Brandon.
Eddie
Okay, so my college football bet was really close to yours. But what I've been having luck with are the anytime TD scores. And I kind of. I was looking at this Colts Rams game and all of these players have been targeted. They've been doing really well on all three games that have just happened. So Jonathan Taylor.
Bobby Bones
Oh, you have multiple any touchdown scores in this game?
Eddie
Yes, I got a four pick parlay four touchdown.
Bobby Bones
Oh, wow. Let me get my game up. Okay, so which one is it?
Eddie
Okay, Colts, Rams.
Kevin
Okay, stand by one second.
Bobby Bones
I want to bet it live. Here we got Titan Commanders, Falcons, Colts, Rams, and these are anytime, Anytime. All right, now I got my players. Anytime Touchdown score. Go ahead.
Eddie
I got Jonathan Taylor.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Eddie
Kyron Williams.
Bobby Bones
Boom.
Eddie
I got Michael Pittman Jr. Wow. And Devonte Adams.
Brandon Ray
Oh, so it's all the same game.
Eddie
All the same game, dude. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Plus 1800.
Eddie
I got a running back and a receiver from each each team.
Bobby Bones
25 bucks makes you 475. Damn.
Brandon Ray
Who was the last one?
Eddie
Devonte Adams.
Bobby Bones
Let me do my WTF. Okay, so that's Brandon's bet of the week. Let me see what my WTF pays. I know I said 900, but let's see. Dallas. So we're betting money line too. Okay. Right?
Brandon Ray
Or yeah, yeah, you got to do.
Bobby Bones
Money line, cuz WTF.
Brandon Ray
For the wins.
Kevin
Cuz WTF?
Bobby Bones
Dallas, Arkansas plus 903. 50 bucks. $501.
Brandon Ray
That's pretty good.
Bobby Bones
WTF, man.
Eddie
I like it.
Brandon Ray
What the hell?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. What the what?
Brandon Ray
What the hell?
Kevin
Wth.
Brandon Ray
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Wtf.
Brandon Ray
Well, I'm not gonna say that. Dude. Kidding me.
Kevin
What's up?
Brandon Ray
Yeah, you censor yourself.
Kevin
There you go.
Brandon Ray
Thank you, Mike.
Bobby Bones
Hey, Mother.
Brandon Ray
A little delayed.
Bobby Bones
I didn't tell him I was coming. We can do it better. Shut up, mother.
Brandon Ray
That's great.
Bobby Bones
Hey, suck my.
Kevin
Dang, dude.
Brandon Ray
Why'd you say that?
Bobby Bones
All right, we're out. Thank you, guys. Blow the whistle, Eddie.
Brandon Ray
Here we go. He senses my whistle.
Bobby Bones
All right, we'll see you guys next week. Bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host producereddy, segment producer at KickOffKevin, and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles.
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Bobby Bones
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Date: September 25, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Podcast: 25 Whistles
Running Time (Main Content): ~70 minutes
This episode dives deep into college football culture, coaching controversies, sports betting, and the pressures of fandom—especially for Arkansas and Cowboys fans. Special guest Texas Tech Head Coach Joey McGuire joins to discuss program culture and high expectations after a signature win. Throughout, Bobby and crew share personal sports stories, explore fandom loyalty, and debate the nuances of sports etiquette, all wrapped in the show’s classic, conversational banter.
True to The Bobby Bones Show’s brand, the episode is fun, candid, slightly irreverent, and heavy on personal anecdotes. There’s a mix of light-hearted ribbing, genuine sports analysis, and banter about life inside and outside of fandom—with local flavor and plainspoken commentary.
If you haven’t caught this episode, expect a rollicking blend of football talk, old-school sports perspectives, raw honesty about fandom, and practical betting ideas. The show balances irreverence and sincerity, delivering a slice-of-life look at sports culture, and features an engaging, inside-the-program chat with rising Texas Tech head coach Joey McGuire. Whether you’re seeking laughs, betting insights, or just a dose of real fans talking real football, this episode delivers the goods.
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