#532 - Chase Elliott on His Music Mt. Rushmore + Why He Switched Numbers Early in His Career + Being Spoiled as a Big Georgia Fan + Bobby & Eddie Discuss Top 10 Live Music Tragedies

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – Episode #532: Chase Elliott on Racing, Music, and Live Music Tragedies

Date: August 27, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones, with Eddie, Curly, and Maya
Guest: Chase Elliott (NASCAR driver)
Feature Segment: Bobby & Eddie discuss Top 10 Live Music Tragedies

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bobby Bones Show features an in-depth conversation with NASCAR star Chase Elliott, followed by an emotional and candid countdown of the top 10 live music tragedies with Bobby and Eddie. The show dives into Chase’s racing career, his fandom as a Georgia Bulldog, music preferences, the specifics of NASCAR culture, and the unique pressures of his sport. The second half provides reflections on some of the darkest moments in live music history, looking at event safety and the human stories behind the headlines.

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Interview with Chase Elliott

Chase’s Racing Persona and Public Recognition

• Chase on Being Recognized ([03:16]):
  • Talks about being known both as "Chase Elliott" and his cameo character "Chase Race Lot" from Cars 3.
  • “You would actually be surprised. It happens. … Kids see me as that [from the movie] but certainly not your normal, you know, fans at the track.” — Chase Elliott [03:22]
• Discusses public anonymity due to wearing a helmet and how attire/sponsorship affects recognition.
  • “We are walking billboards at all times. So yeah… odds are I’m probably, you know, sponsored by something… even at home watching a movie.” — Chase Elliott [05:25]

Sports Fandom and Georgia Bulldogs

• On being a passionate Georgia Bulldogs fan, balancing pride with humility.
  • “I spent enough years being a Georgia fan in an area that had a lot of Alabama fans... I lived that. And I just don’t want to be that person.” — Chase Elliott [06:55]
• Recalls Mark Richt and praises Kirby Smart for “flipping the switch” at Georgia ([08:19]).
• Insight into SEC fan culture, comparing Georgia and Alabama fans.

Inside NASCAR: Driver Number, Racing Culture, and Pre-Race Prep

• How NASCAR Numbers Work ([09:42]):
  • Team owns the numbers, not drivers; Chase started with 24 (Jeff Gordon’s car), later switched to family-favorite number 9.
  • “It just kind of happened. The stars aligned up really perfect for me to end up with the nine that I run now.” — Chase Elliott [10:54]
  • Earnhardt Jr. played a key role in prompting the switch ([12:13]): “If you’re going to make this change… you need to speak up about this right now.”
• Pre-Race Rituals – Staying Calm over Fired Up ([14:10]):
  • “For me, I like to be more on the downside… think and be clear-minded… more of a mind game than anything else.” — Chase Elliott

Racing, Visualization, and Track Personality

• Tracks look similar but each has unique characteristics (bumps, lanes, rhythms) ([18:38]).
  • “Even if they might look the same, they're all very different… they all have their own character.” — Chase Elliott [18:44]

Family in Racing and Spotter Dynamics

• His cousin is his spotter; discusses working with family, balancing heated in-race moments with their outside relationship ([21:17]):
  • “I might cuss him up and down, you know, during the race or whatever, but it’s always easy to turn that off… he’s family and always will be.”

Injuries, Safety, and Concussion Protocol

• NASCAR takes concussion protocols seriously ([22:43]):
  • “You go through protocol of like, concussion testing… they make you set your baseline so… after a wreck… you pass it in a similar way.”
• Jokes about “cheating” on baseline tests ([23:28]):
  • “People do that… but you’re just hurting yourself.” — Chase Elliott

Music Taste, Concerts, and Mt. Rushmore

• Chase’s Music Mt. Rushmore ([25:21]):
  • Eric Church (“the GOAT”), Tyler Childers, Muscadine Bloodline, Megan Moroney.
  • “I dive in pretty deep on that stuff…” — Chase Elliott [27:10]
  • Favorite non-country artist: the Eagles, classic rock side.
• If stuck with one artist on a road trip:
  • “Eric Church… you're listening to just a legend that you'll talk about for years.” [28:19]
• Best Concert:
  • Eric Church at Red Rocks ([29:03])

The Bristol Night Race & Racing Etiquette

• Describes the unique energy of Bristol Speedway ([29:35]):
  • “It really gives people a true appreciation… seeing it up close in a stadium-like environment. It's special.”
• Discusses how NASCAR “playoffs” work ([30:56])
• On F1 and motorsports movies ([31:16]):
  • Expresses purist views—NASCAR and F1 are different worlds.

The Toll on Body & Driver Persona Possibilities

• Hydration and weight loss during a race: Can lose 5–8 lbs on a hot weekend ([34:32]).
• "Heel turn" persona: jokes about flipping the script and showing up as the villain ([35:30]):
  • “Maybe one day… just show up and drive by, flip off Austin Dillon, just fly by… Go to the dark side.” — Chase Elliott [35:42]

"Mean" Drivers and Racing Disrespect

• “Some guys just choose to race like… people cut you off on the highway or just do dumb stuff… It’s just a certain level of racing etiquette.” — Chase Elliott [36:01]

Personal Joy as a Fan

• Still gets excited for new Georgia merch ([37:15]):
  • “I'm like a… kid in a candy store… I don't think you ever grow out of that when you're a fan of something.” — Chase Elliott

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[Timestamps – Chase Elliott Interview Highlights]

• [03:08] – “Cars 3” cameo & fan recognition stories
• [06:03] – Georgia Bulldogs fandom
• [09:42] – NASCAR driver number system explained
• [14:10] – Pre-race mindset and rituals
• [18:38] – Track visualization
• [21:17] – Working with his cousin as spotter
• [22:43] – NASCAR injury and concussion protocols
• [25:21] – Music Mount Rushmore
• [29:35] – Bristol race and importance
• [34:32] – Physical toll of racing
• [35:30] – Turning heel and driver personalities
• [36:01] – Etiquette and “mean” drivers

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Bobby & Eddie’s Top 10 Live Music Tragedies

A thoughtful, emotional exploration of famous events where live music turned tragic. Many events are referenced in documentaries, and their impact led to changes in event safety standards.

List & Discussion Highlights (with segment start times)

• [41:13] Segment Begins: "When the Music Turned Deadly"
• #10: AstroWorld Festival (2021, Houston TX) ([41:53])
  • Crowd surge at Travis Scott show, 10 dead, 100s injured.
  • Key factors: poor staffing, crowd flow, security failures, and delayed response.
  • “It wasn’t one thing. There were like, nine things that went wrong.” — Bobby [44:00]
• #9: The Who Concert (1979, Cincinnati) ([45:27])
  • Stampede at Riverfront Coliseum, 11 trampled.
  • Communication and staffing breakdown.
• #8: Altamont Free Concert (1969, N. California) ([46:36])
  • Murder of Meredith Hunter during Rolling Stones set, violence involving Hell’s Angels as security.
• #7: Woodstock ’99 ([47:52])
  • Overheated, overwhelmed crowd, widespread assaults, injuries, and violence—event blamed on greed.
• #6: Pearl Jam at Roskilde Festival (2000, Denmark) ([52:44])
  • Crowd crush during muddy Pearl Jam set, 9 died.
  • Band deeply affected, almost disbanded.
• #5: Sugarland Stage Collapse (Indiana State Fair, 2011) ([54:07])
  • Sudden wind toppled stage, 7 killed, 58 injured.
  • Led to new outdoor stage safety standards.
• #4: Route 91 Harvest Festival (2017, Las Vegas) ([57:29])
  • Mass shooting from hotel into festival; 58 killed, over 850 injured.
  • Personal connection—Bobby and band played the night before.
• #3: Bataclan Theater, Paris (2015) ([60:02])
  • ISIS terrorist attack during Eagles of Death Metal concert, 90 killed.
• #2: Manchester Arena Bombing (2017) ([61:55])
  • Ariana Grande show, suicide bomber, 22 killed.
• #1: Great White at The Station Nightclub (2003, Rhode Island) ([62:54])
  • Pyrotechnics ignited foam insulation, 100+ killed in minutes.
  • Led to changes in club fire code and pyrotechnics regulations.

Notable Discussion Points & Quotes

• On crowd safety:
  • “You don’t realize how vulnerable you are in a setting like that.” — Bobby [64:53]
• On event organization:
  • “It always goes back to inadequate staffing. And even the staff you do have, they’re not really being taught properly.” — Bobby [46:01]
• On Great White tragedy:
  • “There’s a fire. During their show. … The entire club was engulfed in flames under five minutes. Over 100 people died.” — Bobby [63:02]

Reflection and Takeaways

• Live music, meant to be joyful, can turn tragic with small organizational or safety failures.
• Many tragedies led to important changes in event safety protocols, structural standards, and crowd management practices.
• There is an underlying shared trauma and caution that remains in live event planning to this day.

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Episode Notables & Memorable Moments

• Chase’s Humor: Willingness to turn “heel” for a day, WWE-style ([35:30])
• Personal Touch: Bobby revealing he’d played Route 91 the night before the mass shooting ([57:29])
• Music Fandom: Chase’s “kid in a candy store” excitement over new Georgia Bulldog gear ([37:15])
• Industry Insight: Behind-the-scenes of NASCAR family work relationships and the science of racing prep.

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Tone and Style

• Conversational and insightful with moments of humor and gravity.
• Maintains a friendly, open vibe—Bobby allows guests and co-hosts to tell stories in their own words.
• Sensitive reflection during the tragedies segment—empathetic and thoughtful, acknowledging the real lives and lessons affected.

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Episode Value

This episode is a blend of lighthearted multiple-choice NASCAR questions, sports fandom, and music talk, followed by a sobering, necessary look at event safety and the shared vulnerability of crowds. Listeners get to know Chase Elliott’s personality in-depth and revisit pivotal moments in live event history that changed the industry forever.

Recommended for:
NASCAR fans, music lovers, live event organizers, and anyone interested in the cultural intersections of sports, music, and society.

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Transcript

[Maya]

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[Jay Shetty]

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[Bobby]

He's won 14 Grand Slams in a glittering career.

[Novak Djokovic]

Novak Djokovic, when you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How long can I push my own limits?

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maya]

The super secret Festy Club podcast season four is here and we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex.

[Curly]

No, no, we're not doing that this season.

[Maya]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Curly]

Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not gonna want to miss it. My name is Curly.

[Maya]

And I'm Maya.

[Chase Elliott]

Get in here.

[Maya]

Listen to the super secret bestie Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mark Lombardo Narrator]

What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

[Chase Elliott]

He said, you are a number, a.

[Bobby]

New York state number, and we own you.

[Mark Lombardo Narrator]

Listen to shock incarceration on the I My Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chase Elliott]

I don't know how the best way to describe this other than just they race. Like, some of them just do. Like, people cutting you off on the highway or just do dumb stuff, right? That you're like, why was that necessary? Theory.

[Bobby]

Welcome to episode 532 with NASCAR driver Chase Elliott, which, by the way, Chase Elliott will be racing on September 13th. It is the Bristol Motor Speedway, the Bass Pro Shops night race. Who decides who survives the round of 16. Thought it was cool. Listen, I'm not a massive NASCAR fan and I'm glad I didn't know how popular he was because I think I may have handled the interview differently. Like, I know who Chase Elliott is. The race car driver. Is that even a thing? Can I say race car driver?

[Curly]

Yeah, he's a race car.

[Bobby]

That offensive. Like, I do. I do multiple sports shows, but I don't know much about nascar, if I'm being honest, so. But I really enjoyed it. And I think, you know, Morgan, number one, who is a massive NASCAR fan, came up and she was like, that was really good. People don't get that much out of him. He doesn't do a whole lot of interviews. And I was like, really? I was like, how popular is he? She was like, he's arguably the most popular driver. I was like, great. I'm glad I didn't know that because I might have handled this a bit different. So enjoy this. We do about 40 minutes with Chase Elliott. I really like him. And then Eddie and I will talk about the top 10 live music tragedies of all time.

[Curly]

Oh, man.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Curly]

You know, happy stuff over here.

[Bobby]

Well, we'll go happy first. Here he is, Chase Elliott. Or as many people know, I'm Chase Race lot. Yes.

[Chase Elliott]

What I just heard. I haven't heard that one in a minute. So it was nice to get. Yeah.

[Bobby]

From Cars three.

[Chase Elliott]

Some cars. Appreciation in there. Yeah.

[Bobby]

I would think that that is a completely different fan base. Like, if a kid comes up to ever introduced you as Chase Race Lot.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah. You would actually be surprised. It happens. Not a lot, but it definitely happens. But you're totally right. Like, it's a total different world. Right. People see, you know, kids see me as that. Right. That pay attention to the movie, but certainly not your normal, you know, fans at the. At the track.

[Bobby]

It's weird. Like, I did a reality show one time. I did Dancing with the Stars, and I won the show. So I was on it for a long time.

[Chase Elliott]

Oh, nice.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Thank you. Not the flex yet. The flex is. This is.

[Chase Elliott]

That's a big deal, though.

[Bobby]

Yeah. I'm a wonderful athlete, much like yourself, but when really old people come up to me, I know they're about to talk about that show. Like, I can identify. Like, if I got a walker and they're like, hello. I'd like to say I'm like, big Dancing with the Stars fan. It's gotta be like, the kids. If the kids, like, oh, my God. So, yeah, we're tackling them on both ends. Good to see you. Have we met?

[Chase Elliott]

I don't know that maybe we've crossed paths somewhere.

[Bobby]

Probably not then.

[Chase Elliott]

I don't know.

[Bobby]

I'm pretty generic.

[Chase Elliott]

I'm not gonna lie. Me too. So, I mean, no offense taken at all. I'm really bad about that. You learn as time goes. It's good to see you. Not nice to meet you. Right.

[Bobby]

So completely nice to meet you. Has been eliminated from what I say.

[Chase Elliott]

Totally not an option. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby]

Do you find that having it be a helmet sport, maybe you can go out a little more than, like, a basketball player? Because when you're performing when you're on the track, you're in a helmet, maybe.

[Chase Elliott]

That's a good point. I would say people definitely identify with my normal weekend attire. Right. So, like, if I'm walking around in my driving suit or like, if I'm dressed like this, I have a. Definitely a much better chance of someone recognizing me, I think. But yeah, for the most part it kind of depends on where you're at. But I do think the helmet aspect of it probably is. Does have some truth behind it.

[Bobby]

You do have Napa on even like your normal clothes today. So do all your clothes have some, like, even if you're gonna like lay around the house, are you sponsored by somebody lay around?

[Chase Elliott]

You know, it is such a, you know, NASCAR thing, right. We are walking billboards at all times. So, yeah, if you're stopping by the house on a random Wednesday, odds are I'm probably, you know, I'm sponsored by something on Wednesday at home watching, you know, a movie. So that's just. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. NASCAR issues when it comes to the billboards that we are. But that's part of the deal.

[Bobby]

You big Bulldog fan. Big Georgia fan.

[Chase Elliott]

Big Georgia fan.

[Bobby]

Most of my clothes at home, I'll have Razorbacks on them because I noticed. Yeah. So I'm a big Razorback guy from Arkansas, but most of my hangout clothes have Razorbacks. So I would assume your stuff's either like Napa or do you have a bunch of Bulldog gear you wear?

[Chase Elliott]

I do. I do. Yeah. That is very, very guilty of that as well. I would say it's probably half and half. It's either sponsor related or it's Georgia. I got some brave stuff in there. And then there's, you know, the occasional generic favorite Braves player ever, Chipper Jones.

[Bobby]

I knew you're going to say that. You're the age. You're the age. I mean, Chipper was like the dude. You go back. I don't know. Is your dad. Braves hand?

[Chase Elliott]

Not really.

[Bobby]

So. So Dale Murphy pride, the generation up.

[Chase Elliott]

Probably so.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Dale Murphy. I remember being a kid watching TBS and like I was really young, but Dale Murphy, then Chipper Jones. You still follow the Braves now?

[Chase Elliott]

I do. I mean, they've been a tough year. They've been tough to follow this year. But I'm, I mean, I'm always a fan, right. So, yeah, I hope they get it turned around, man. They've had, they've had a tough go at it.

[Bobby]

But do you feel that when Georgia doesn't win a football national championship, now that's A letdown and that you're very spoiled.

[Chase Elliott]

I don't feel that way, but I'm also, you know, I feel like I'm a very. I try to be a fair fan, and I'm not one of those people that, you know, just throw it in your face all the time either. You know, I feel like that. I don't know. I spent enough years of being a Georgia fan in an area that had a lot of Alabama fans. And, you know, when they were on their run and just wearing us out, I lived that. And I just don't want to be that person. Right. So even when they had their couple years, national titles and so on, I just. I don't know. I just don't want to be that person. So I'm a huge fan, love following them, and I'll definitely be pulling for him this year, but I wouldn't say it's a letdown. Like, I hate the coaching culture in sports in general, but definitely in football, I think it's totally unfair to these guys that they, you know, get hired on by these massive schools or, you know, boosters or whoever it is that's paying the bills, right? And they come in and they're just expected to win a national championship in, like, three years. I think that's totally unfair to them. Like, if it was easy, everybody do it. You know what I mean?

[Bobby]

I think that Georgia has fans that are much nicer than they have to be. And I've said this for a long time because you guys have been really good now for a substantial period. I think Kirby Smart coming in completely changed the program. Mark Rick was awesome.

[Chase Elliott]

He was.

[Bobby]

But Kirby Smart flipped the switch, and you guys could be a lot cockier and have friends like Kane. Brown's a really good friend of mine, and he's a Georgia fan. He could be way more cockier and way more arrogant about it, and he's really not. And so for a team that wins a lot and all the time, Georgia fans, pretty cool Bama fans, we got to talk.

[Chase Elliott]

I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. But, you know, they've had to change their tune a little. Little, you know, But I still think Saban left.

[Bobby]

It changed for them.

[Chase Elliott]

I still think they're going to be very good. But, yeah, look, I mean, you're right. And I think we're really lucky as Georgia fans, too, because it was never. It was never like, they were just a total joke, you know, Mark. Mark Rick, I think, was a great coach, and it was a Great culture, and it was a. Just a really easy team to pull for. They weren't winning national championships every year, but they were always really solid. And even those years that they weren't winning at all, they were still winning a lot of games, and it was still a lot of fun to go and be a part of. So, yeah, I think we got really lucky on that front. And then, yeah, obviously, Kirby came in and totally changed the. You know, changed the game and changed the game, really, I think for the whole sport, probably from the recruiting side of things, I feel like he kind of has spearheaded a lot of the movement on that side of the fence. But it's been fun to watch.

[Bobby]

So I have some really uneducated questions I'd like to ask. How did drivers get their numbers?

[Chase Elliott]

That could be a. And that could be a number of different ways. For some people, it could just simply be what your favorite number is, and you might have had the option or the choice to pick.

[Bobby]

Does it have to be open? I guess you can't have two cars with the number with the same number, correct?

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah, you definitely can't have two cards the same number. The teams own the numbers, you know, basically. So, you know, the drivers work for the teams that field the cars, more or less. So, like in my case, when I came into Racing cup and I've been with Hendrick Motorsports throughout my whole career, Jeff Gordon was retiring, right. So I came in the next year. I was. I was filling in, you know, fill in the spot, fill in the open seat. So the 24 was the car that I stepped into for those first couple of years. I had no tie to the 24, to the number 24 or anything, but, you know, that was. That was what it was. And, you know, nobody asked. And obviously, I was fine with anything at that point. Now, later on down the road, I had an option, and, you know, nine was my favorite number, and nine, you know, had some family ties, too, and made a lot of sense. So I got to switch. So most of the time, I would say it's more whatever team you're driving for, if they already have a number that's fielded or a number that's been around for a while, you typically kind of get assigned that number. It just kind of happened. The stars aligned up really perfect for me to end up with the nine that. That I run now. But that's not. I wouldn't say that happens very often, and I was kind of surprised that it even happened in my case.

[Bobby]

Are there better numbers? Meaning are some numbers more Expensive for a team to buy than others.

[Chase Elliott]

Well, they're not necessarily buying them and that's probably part of the reason why most of the time they're not going to change. Because if a team has rights to a certain number, odds are it's probably not going to make sense for them to go out and get a different one. So, yeah, I wouldn't say it changes for me, in my case, the nine was not being used, so it's just floating out there.

[Bobby]

It's a free agent. That's a free agent number.

[Chase Elliott]

It was. It was kind of a free agent number. It was owned by Petty Enterprises because, you know, Evernham turned into Gillette, you know, George Gillette bought Evernham and then Gillette turned into Petty Enterprises on down the road. So it kind of got passed down and passed down, and it got passed down so far that the nine was not being used. You know, so it was Casey Kane and then it was Marcus Ambrose, and I'm not sure where it went after that. And then it kind of just disappeared for one reason or another. I don't exactly know why, but ended up not being used. And so, yeah, when we had some switch up at Hendrick, I think in 2018, you know, was the year and we were, you know, that was. It was actually Dale Jr really deserves the credit for the number switch from my perspective, because he, he's like, hey, you know, if you're going to make this change, which kind of. He knew I wanted to do it, but I never really said. He's like, hey, you need to speak up about this right now because you're probably not going to have another opportunity to do it. He knew there was some change coming and, yeah, so I kind of, thanks to his nudging, you know, I reached out to the boss and was like, hey, what do you think about doing this? Or can we do this? Is this even possible? So somebody had a conversation with Richard Petty and, you know, he said, hey, you can have it. You know, we're not using it. Totally, you know, totally yours. You have, you know, family ties to this number and it'd be really cool for you guys to, you know, to take it if that's what you want to do. So the King let us have it and we ran with it, which is really pretty neat the way it all worked out.

[Bobby]

Another dumb question.

[Chase Elliott]

And that's actually a good question.

[Bobby]

Well, a very uneducated question. I had no idea.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah. So what's better than what do you do when you go, you know, have to go to the bathroom, which is totally.

[Bobby]

No, it wasn't. It wasn't that one.

[Chase Elliott]

Okay, mark that one off your list.

[Bobby]

My next question is, when it comes to pre race, I have athlete friends. Some of them like to be pumped up. They like to listen to music and get freaking fired up. I have other athlete friends who like to not be fired up so they can be as calm as possible, so they can think as clearly as possible. Where do you fall when a race begins? Do you like to be keyed up or do you like to be all the way down?

[Chase Elliott]

I would say most of the time I like to be more on the downside of just being able to think and be as clear minded as I can be. I think that's the most productive way for me to go about my job. Because the beginning of the race is like, you know, the beginning of the marathon. You know, that there's, there's just so much work to be done. And while there are moments throughout races where you might need to be fired up or need some of that, you know, heightened excitement is typically pretty easy to reach in and grab that. But I just don't think you can sustain that for four hours. You know, I think that's kind of unrealistic to, to do, at least in our world. And I think so much of what we do is more, you know, I've compared it a lot to golf, I think, in a lot of ways, because I think it's more of a, of a mind game than it is anything else. And I think just being sharp on that front is probably the best way for success, at least in my view.

[Jay Shetty]

Let's take a quick pause for a.

[Bobby]

Message from our sponsor.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. And today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic, the world's number one male tennis player.

[Bobby]

He's won 14 Grand Slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic.

[Jay Shetty]

You've been through so many injuries, losses.

[Bobby]

He's hurt himself.

[Chase Elliott]

What has Novak Djokovic done?

[Jay Shetty]

What goes through your mind when you lose?

[Novak Djokovic]

I just want to be left alone.

[Jay Shetty]

What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic?

[Novak Djokovic]

It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits?

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maya]

The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here, and we're locked in. That means more Juicy Cheeseman, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex.

[Curly]

We're not doing that this season.

[Maya]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Curly]

Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it.

[Chase Elliott]

Get in here.

[Curly]

Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people.

[Chase Elliott]

The diva of the people.

[Curly]

I'm just like texturex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself.

[Bobby]

Okay, that's us.

[Curly]

What the heck? That's us. My name is Curly.

[Maya]

And I'm Maya.

[Curly]

In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.

[Maya]

Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Bobby]

So what happened to Chappaquiddick?

[Maya]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[Bobby]

There are many versions of what happened.

[Chase Elliott]

In 1969 when a young Ted, Ken.

[Bobby]

Drove a car into a pond and.

[Maya]

Left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News, it's teddy escapes blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?

[Bobby]

Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

[Maya]

And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

[Bobby]

The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it.

[Chase Elliott]

So is there a curse?

[Bobby]

Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Maya]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Bobby]

And we're back on the bobbycast. I want to talk about visualization for a second. And again, you mentioned golf. And every hole is different, right? Every fairway is different, every green is different. And you walk the course with a lot of these tracks. The circle is the same. How do you visualize more than just the circle?

[Chase Elliott]

Well, they're not all the same at all.

[Bobby]

The shape to me is the same when I watch it on television.

[Chase Elliott]

Right. And I think that's another great comparison. You talk about fairways, and you might look from overhead shot, and you might have two dogleg lefts that look the exact same from a helicopter view. And you're thinking, oh, these are the same shot. As long as you hit the same shot shape, these get, you know, should be fine. Right? Same for us when. When we go to different racetracks. While some places might look really similar and might from, you know, the bird's eye view, every place has its own character, and it has its own bumps in the road and cracks in the surface. And some tracks have preferred lanes that, you know, are different than others that might totally be shaped the same. So, no, even if. Even if they might look the same, they're all. They're all very different. And, you know, it just takes some time, I guess, to kind of recognize that and pick up on it. But. But they all have their own character, for sure.

[Bobby]

What if, like, one pothole was added to each course?

[Chase Elliott]

One pothole?

[Bobby]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chase Elliott]

Guess you have a lot of flat.

[Bobby]

Tires, and you really wouldn't know where it was till it started, but then it just stayed there. Because I think of how the Savannah Bananas make everything, like, live has golf, Savannah Bananas and baseball. What if it's like a Mario Kart version of what you guys do, and all of a sudden there are these power ups and boom.

[Chase Elliott]

I feel like we have enough of the Mario Kart version as it sits. So I am not going to advocate for more, but I'm sure it'd be fun for somebody to watch. But, you know, I do. I give. I give them credit. The Savannah Bananas thing. I've never been to one, but I could see where, like, I'm. I'm more of a purist sports fan at my age. Right. But I could totally see if you had kids or, you know, whatever it may be, that that would be a super fun thing to take your family to for, you know, for sports fans to get into baseball or kind of have an introduction to that. So maybe there's space out there for it. I don't know. There's actually a guy in Florida that. It's called the Freedom Factory. And it's almost. It's not like, totally what you're talking about, you know, Mario Kart status, but they do a lot of really fun. You know, it's not so much about competitive, super serious racing. It's more of like a having fun type playground, like Travis Pastrana type stuff. Very similar to Travis Pastrana. So I. I think there's a space for that. I'm just not sure how you take that to a, you know, a bigger level, but I'm sure someone's thinking about that. No doubt.

[Bobby]

Is your cousin still your spotter?

[Chase Elliott]

He is. So again, do you know him?

[Bobby]

I don't know him. I have a lot of cousins and I've worked like the people on the show for the most part. We've been together for 20 plus years. Right. They were all my friends and we all kind of came together and grew. You know, we weren't put together.

[Chase Elliott]

We were.

[Bobby]

We didn't have a big show to begin with, but to have somebody that you're close to outside of work and then also work with them, how do you manage that dynamic? Because you depend on him a lot.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah, it's, you know, we know each other really well and, you know, he knows me as well as anybody, and I would say likewise on the other end. And we do a good job of just, you know, look, I, I might cuss him up and down, you know, during the race or whatever it may be, but it's always really easy to turn that off, I think, just because we do have a strong relationship outside the car and we are family and we've spent most of our lives around each other. So I might be mad at him, but I don't not like him. And he. And he knows that. So, you know, he's family and always will be. And, you know, that that's easy for me to, to prioritize regardless of, of anything else, you know, on, on the.

[Bobby]

Work front, do you ever race hurt and not tell anyone you're hurt so they don't take advantage of it? There's not an injury, like an official injury report, like NFL, like Thursday, they got to give the injury report.

[Chase Elliott]

Well, that's not totally true. Like, for us, like, for instance, I crashed on Saturday night this past weekend. So, like, one of the things that you go through as soon as you wreck, you know, they. They take you to the infield care center at whatever racetrack it is, you go through protocol of like, concussion testing, and they'll make you go every. I think like every year, every year and a half, we have to go through and do like a concussion standardized test basically to set your baseline so that when you do get in a wreck and you go through to take this concussion test, that you pass it in a similar time and in a similar way that you took the baseline test when you were, you know, healthy.

[Bobby]

See, I would cheat on the baseline and make. Make my baseline worse.

[Chase Elliott]

People do that.

[Bobby]

No, I Would do that immediately.

[Chase Elliott]

People totally have tried to do that before. I don't. You shouldn't.

[Bobby]

No, you shouldn't do it. But I would be. I would. I would be worse at that. So then when I was worse, after my. Whatever.

[Chase Elliott]

They've. Yeah. The way that they do the testing. I think that you could get away with that before, but the way they do the testing now. A, I think it would be really hard for you to. To cheat bad at. And then, B, I. You know, I'm not interested in that because you're just hurting yourself. Like, if you go and.

[Bobby]

Good thing to say. That's the exact right thing to say.

[Chase Elliott]

You know, like, what happens? You go and you have a bad concussion. You go race the next weekend, you get another bad wreck. I mean, like, you're just. I mean, nobody.

[Bobby]

It's bad.

[Chase Elliott]

Yep.

[Bobby]

Bad. I agree.

[Chase Elliott]

Right? Like, that's just a bad decision.

[Bobby]

Hey, man, you have your smelling salts?

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Pretty awesome, huh?

[Chase Elliott]

Pretty awesome is right. Different.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Like, makes me feel like a new person for a minute.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah. I wish it lasted longer. Yeah, I wish it lasted longer. But.

[Bobby]

Yeah, listen to you guys.

[Chase Elliott]

It's. Yeah, it's one of those things where you want it to, like. I don't know, you want it to, like, keep the energy level up, but it's. Yeah, it'll get you. It'll get you.

[Bobby]

Like that.

[Curly]

When do you take that? Like, at what point?

[Chase Elliott]

I don't on a regular basis. Obviously you do. I don't on a regular basis, but some of our pit crew guys do it, and it's always kind of a running joke. They'll run up to me with these smelling salts, you know, like, right before the race and, you know, smell one. But. So I've done it. But I'm not like a regular. I'm not a regular user by any means.

[Bobby]

Let me ask you about music. Favorite three artists of all time.

[Chase Elliott]

Of all time.

[Bobby]

All time. And then I will go more current. But all time.

[Chase Elliott]

Right now, in what genre?

[Bobby]

Doesn't matter. Wide open.

[Chase Elliott]

That's almost too broad. I mean, for me, Eric Church is the goat. I would put him at the top of the list. Period. Now. Now, from there, it's like, okay, you have two more spots to fill in any genre. I think that could be do four total.

[Bobby]

It's Rushmore.

[Chase Elliott]

I would have to study this, I think, a little bit. Okay.

[Bobby]

If you study during an interview. That's a boring interview.

[Chase Elliott]

It is.

[Bobby]

You're not committed. This is not a contract you have to sign or they always have to be your artist.

[Chase Elliott]

I know, but I don't want to. I don't want to answer this and then get done and be like, dang, I wish I had said somebody else. But whatever, I'm gonna. I'll go for it.

[Bobby]

You're gamer. Here, have some smelling salt.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah, I need to. Need to study. Let's see. I would probably put Eric Church up there. No question. I think that's. I would probably put Tyler Childers in. In the Realm as well.

[Bobby]

So you got Kentucky and now you have Carolina.

[Chase Elliott]

Yep, Kentucky and Carolina.

[Bobby]

No pressure to put anybody from Georgia in there. I'm just making sure we know where we are regionally. We're marking them off.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah. I'm just going to keep it in the country category just because that we're in Nashville. Right. So country category. We'll just go current, like what I like right now. We'll go Muscadine Bloodline.

[Bobby]

I think you think you're gonna be killed if you give a wrong answer. You're not. You're good, you're safe.

[Chase Elliott]

I just want to.

[Bobby]

Okay.

[Chase Elliott]

I just want to preface where my head's at.

[Curly]

And if you want to call in later and change.

[Bobby]

Yeah, you're free. Just send in a pigeon.

[Chase Elliott]

We'll go Muscadine Bloodline. Love their stuff. Big, big fans of theirs. I like Megan Maroney right now. I think she's got some good stuff.

[Bobby]

We'll accept all four of those answers. All four great picks.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

If you come back in a year and you say, I want to change all four. No penalty.

[Chase Elliott]

No, I'm not looking for a penalty or anything else. But I just, you know, I think amount Rushmore of music and you get like. I don't know, I dive in pretty deep on that stuff. So I just, I would.

[Bobby]

Who's your favorite non country artist ever?

[Chase Elliott]

I would probably go like something. When I think non country, my mind goes to like classic rock. You know, something like, you know, the Eagles or some. Something in that area. Right.

[Bobby]

We had a segment we were doing. It's like if you had on a seven hour road trip and you could only listen to one artist, who would you pick? And I picked Tom Petty just because it's. Unlimited greatness.

[Chase Elliott]

Yep.

[Bobby]

Unlimited greatness.

[Chase Elliott]

Yep.

[Bobby]

So let me ask you that question. Then you got. You're on a seven hour road trip.

[Chase Elliott]

I would, I would go Eric Church. I think he has a plethora of albums and music and totally different choices from album to album. And Yeah, I just, I think, I think you're listening to, you know, like just a legend that you'll talk about and people will appreciate for years to come, you know, George Strait type, you know, legendary status, you know, down the road that I think you'll be like, dang, I should have appreciated that person more when you had the chance to go watch him live. So I think that that's fair.

[Bobby]

Best concert you ever been to? Red Rocks Church at Red Rocks? Yeah, the recent one.

[Chase Elliott]

Both of them you went to both? I went to the one that was. Yeah. What about 10 years ago? And then I did go to the recent one as well.

[Bobby]

You know Eric.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah, a little bit. Not, not super well, but a little bit.

[Bobby]

Let me show you where his house is. He lives by me. I'll show you where he lives.

[Chase Elliott]

I don't need to know. I don't need to know.

[Curly]

All right.

[Bobby]

It's all good.

[Curly]

We can ding dong.

[Chase Elliott]

Good.

[Bobby]

Yeah. We go up.

[Chase Elliott]

I take your word. All good.

[Bobby]

All right, let's talk about this. The, the last. The race of Bristol for a second. What is that track like? What you say, everybody, all these tracks have their own characteristics. What's that track about?

[Chase Elliott]

Well, Bristol is, you know, that place has changed a lot over the years and the racing has changed a lot there. But it's, it is a short track, right? It's only a half mile, so it's a pretty small place. But to me it's. It's not so much about the track there as it is about the experience. I just think it is such a great place to go watch a race. Like anytime my friends ask me, you know, where should we go or, you know, meet somebody for the first time, getting them in a NASCAR and they want to come check it out. I always say the Bristol night race, truthfully, I mean, it's not just because we're here promoting the Bristol night race, but honestly, that, that is the best answer because I just think it, it really gives people a true appreciation and understanding of what we do. And seeing it up close in a stadium like environment, it's just not something that we do every week. And it's special. Special. It's fast, it's, it's. It's tight quarters. Racing. You have to be very precise. Everything about it is just to me, what nascar, what I grew up appreciating about NASCAR racing and I think it does a great job of exemplifying that.

[Bobby]

Today, September 13th, the Bass Pro Shops night race at Bristol Motor Speedway decides who survives the round of 16. So if you're out. So some people just don't make it. You just go without them.

[Curly]

Right.

[Bobby]

You leave them behind and you get in the top 12.

[Chase Elliott]

Go. Well, you don't. They still race the next week.

[Bobby]

They can't. But they can't win. Right.

[Chase Elliott]

They're eliminated from the. From the playoff, you know, system.

[Bobby]

I drive by them like this. L. On my head.

[Curly]

See you.

[Bobby]

Yeah. You're not even real. We don't even see what John Cena. Them.

[Chase Elliott]

You can't see them. Your old smelling salts.

[Bobby]

Exactly. I've already smelled them. Have the old ones. What'd you think of F1, the movie?

[Chase Elliott]

I have not seen the movie.

[Bobby]

I know nothing about F1 at all. I thought they hand. They held my hand pretty through it. I liked it. You ever driven one of those cars?

[Chase Elliott]

No, never have. Never had. Nobody's ever asked, so I've never done it, but. And probably never will be asked, which is, you know, totally respect that too.

[Bobby]

But why do you say that?

[Chase Elliott]

Well, it's a totally different path. Number one, not saying that I could or. Or couldn't do it. You know, it's a. It's just a different discipline. Truthfully, I'm way too old, which is crazy, but I'm. I'm too old at this point in my life to even think about making a transition of that nature. I mean, that they're. Those teams are assigning kids when they're, you know, probably 10 years old or something and bringing them up through some sort of a farm system. And if they get developed and they have. Think they have a chance and they, you know, get opportunities. But the cars, you know, certainly from, you know, being a motorsports fan, I love watching F1. I've really enjoyed watching their racing over the past, probably, I don't know, six, seven years or something like that. You know, had seen some great battles between Max and Lewis and, you know, Lewis and Nico Rosberg. You know, that was a great rivalry. If you're just now watching the F1 movie, you're probably.

[Bobby]

All I know is Lewis. He wears a Rolex on each wrist. It's the only thing I know about. I mean, I know who he is. He's super famous and rich.

[Chase Elliott]

Great race car driver, too. I know he's had a tough year, but some amazing battles. And yeah, F1 has been a great product and they've done a great job marketing it. And it's, you know, I've heard the movie's great. I haven't seen it, but I've never been huge on motorsports movies in general. I just always feel I'M very much a purist when it comes to, like, I want things to be represented exactly like it should be. And I just think it's really hard to put what we do as, you know, race car drivers and motorsports in general the perfect way in a film. So I always get super picky about that, but everyone says it was done really well, and I should probably go check it out.

[Bobby]

My favorite F1 driver, Brad Pitt.

[Chase Elliott]

Oh, well, easy choice.

[Bobby]

I'm new to the sport.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

My favorite, though. Yeah, he's great.

[Chase Elliott]

Perfect. Yeah, he's probably one for one. I assume he won the race, not spoiling it. Okay.

[Bobby]

He might die.

[Chase Elliott]

Maybe he does.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Chase Elliott]

Okay, fair enough.

[Bobby]

I got two more uneducated questions. Although you said my other one was pretty educated, so I appreciate that.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

I'm curious about what it does to your body. Meaning do you weigh yourself? And this may sound so stupid, pre and post, because. And. And do you lose a lot of water during the race? And how do you stay hydrated? I mean, is there, like a hamster tube? Like, what happens in there with your body?

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah. So you. You are sweating a lot. No doubt. I mean, you're definitely losing a lot of water weight throughout a race. It's hot. I would say that's the toughest part for us physically, is the heat and sustaining that for three or four hours. But we do have water, you know, drink bags. Almost like a camelback, I guess, would.

[Bobby]

Be the best way to describe it. Not like a hamster, too, how I described it.

[Chase Elliott]

Okay, okay. No, but what do you lose?

[Bobby]

What do you lose per race?

[Chase Elliott]

You know, I have never personally weighed myself after a race, but I have had friends who. Who have. And it's on a really, really hot weekend. Like five to eight pounds. Something along those lines.

[Bobby]

So is there specific food that you eat before a race or race day that you know, does your body the best?

[Chase Elliott]

Yes. I mean, I'm typically really, really boring on just race day food in general, like chicken, rice, or, you know, some sort of pasta type situation. But it's.

[Bobby]

If you went to El Chico before a race, would that be bad?

[Chase Elliott]

That would be bad.

[Bobby]

Okay. That would be really. Does some work on you while you're in there?

[Chase Elliott]

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, drinking hydration is a huge piece of it, but also what you eat, too. I mean, you can. You can make bad, bad choices on that side of things, too.

[Bobby]

Final question. Do you ever just want to turn heel? Because you're very popular, you want all the. He's our favorite. He's. You're in car, you're in cars. Do you ever just want to turn heel one day and same sponsor would show up in, like, all black and be like, screw everybody, like, a little bit? That'd be fun, right?

[Chase Elliott]

Oh, it would definitely.

[Bobby]

What, Hogan type stuff?

[Chase Elliott]

It would definitely be fun, for sure. And I think it would just catch a lot of people off guard. Maybe I will. Maybe I will. Maybe, you know, maybe one day you just show up and drive by, flip.

[Bobby]

Off Austin Dylan, just fly by.

[Chase Elliott]

Whoo. You know, go to the dark side. Yeah, that's.

[Bobby]

That's it. That's the next step.

[Chase Elliott]

It's not out of the question. Out of the question. You know, you never know. Some. Somebody might be getting the bird this weekend. Now that you got me fired up.

[Bobby]

About it, what makes you, like, a mean driver? What makes someone like, someone. Is it because they, like, bump you?

[Chase Elliott]

I wouldn't say, you know, I don't look at somebody and be like, oh, man, he's mean. I just think that, you know, some guys just choose to race. Like, you know, I don't know how the best way to describe this other than just they race. Like, some of them just do. And, like, people drive. Yeah, like, people drive on the road. Like, people cutting you off on the highway or, you know, just do dumb stuff, right? That you're like, it's not even that it was. It's just sometimes you're like, why was that necessary? You know what I'm saying? And I think there's just a certain level of racing etiquette, and, you know, you have either have respect for your competitors or you don't. And sometimes you get shown signs of disrespect, and you're like, man, that was just kind of unnecessary. So it's not really like, hey, you're being mean. It's just more like, hey, that, you know, you're not doing either one of us any favors. That was kind of dumb.

[Bobby]

Chase. Elliot, I really appreciate the time. My final, final. Final question is.

[Chase Elliott]

I know. You got any more last questions. You're like a.

[Bobby]

Well, I do final, then I do final, final. Then I do final, Final, final. Okay, it's the final. Final, final. Do you still get excited when, like, a box of cool, like, merch comes in? Like, for, like, you know, like, if you get boxes of shoes and stuff, you're like, oh, cool. Let's see what we got this time.

[Chase Elliott]

Oh, man. For sure. Yeah. Like, you asked about the Georgia attire. Yeah, yeah. They sent me some stuff, like, a couple months ago.

[Bobby]

So it's still cold to you when that stuff comes in? Oh, yeah, it's awesome.

[Chase Elliott]

I'm like a, you know, kid in a candy store, right? Like, just like, you know, Christmas came in August, you know, and I'm just excited for, you know, for the season and, you know, love, you know, love that stuff. So, yeah, absolutely. I get fired up for, for that sort of thing. I don't think you ever grow out of that when you, you know, when you're a fan of something.

[Bobby]

Saturday, September 13, the Bass Pro Shops night race at Bristol Motor Speedway. Coverage begins at 6:30pm Central on USA. Chase, good to see you. Appreciate the time and good luck, man.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. Appreciate it.

[Bobby]

The Bobbycast. We'll be right back.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. And today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic, the world's number one male tennis player.

[Bobby]

He's won 14 Grand Slams in a glittering career.

[Jay Shetty]

Novak Djokovic, you've been through so many injuries, losses.

[Bobby]

He's hurt himself. What has Novak Djokovic done?

[Jay Shetty]

What goes through your mind when you lose?

[Novak Djokovic]

I just want to be left alone.

[Jay Shetty]

What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic?

[Novak Djokovic]

It's a consistent practice. It's prayer, work, mindfulness meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits?

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Mark Lombardo Narrator]

What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

[Bobby]

He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you.

[Mark Lombardo Narrator]

Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.

[Bobby]

The first night was overwhelming and you.

[Chase Elliott]

Don'T know who's next to you, and.

[Bobby]

We didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything.

[Mark Lombardo Narrator]

Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby]

A foot washed up, a shoe with.

[Chase Elliott]

Some bones in it.

[Bobby]

They had no idea who it was.

[Chase Elliott]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Maya]

These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.

[Curly]

He never thought he was going to get caught.

[Bobby]

And I just looked at my computer.

[Chase Elliott]

Screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Maya]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopefully hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby]

This is the Bobbycast. Okay, we're gonna go into the top 10 live music tragedies. We're gonna call this when the Music Turned Deadly, Man. What comes to your mind?

[Curly]

So, like, explain, like, it happened, like, during a live show.

[Bobby]

People die at a live music event.

[Curly]

I mean, this is. I mean, let's start with.

[Bobby]

Because I have 10, and I won't start where you start, but I wonder.

[Curly]

What you think makes it Dimebag Daryl.

[Bobby]

No, I think you're going individual, like, Dimebag Daryl. Okay, that. I think that counts because he was shot during a show, and, like, guy.

[Curly]

Shot him middle of the show on stage.

[Bobby]

Pantera guitar player.

[Curly]

Yeah, I see what you're saying, though.

[Bobby]

I'll give you number 10.

[Curly]

Okay.

[Bobby]

AstroWorld Festival in Houston, Texas.

[Curly]

Oh, dude, there's a whole documentary on that. That is. Yes.

[Bobby]

Travis Scott. Over 50, 000 people. As Travis Scott took the stage, the massive crowd surged forward. Thousands were pressed into barricades at the front with little room to breathe or move. Despite visible distress, unconscious bodies, and calls for help, the show continued for over 30 more minutes. Emergency response was delayed and overwhelmed. Video of fans screaming for the show to stop went viral. 10 people died. Hundreds were injured.

[Curly]

I don't understand how the communication doesn't get sent to the authorities that something bad is happening. You know, like, we've been at a show where we're playing and you see that something's not right. You know, I remember we were playing a show somewhere, and somebody was like, he's dead. And turns out they just passed out. But, you know, we saw that. And yes, that was kind of daylight and all that, but these were hundreds of people screaming at the guards, saying, like, we are getting crushed.

[Bobby]

I think the difference is. And I'm not justifying it, but I'm going, how did they miss this one? The biggest factor of this was understaffed security.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

So they didn't have enough people to actually stop it. Because we don't know that some people didn't see it and try to stop it. There was very poor crowd flow. The organization of getting people places and people could get out and people would get trapped like that. It was set up poorly.

[Curly]

From what I understand is a lot of people snuck in. I think it was more people than they anticipated to be there. Were actually there because they broke the.

[Bobby]

Gates and it was almost encouraged to run in. And Travis Scott has been known to encourage his crowds to get rowdy to do a lot of. I mean, think of a mosh pit, though.

[Curly]

Oh, crazy, right?

[Bobby]

So it's a version of that. So, I mean, looking down, I don't know that he saw it was anything different because he's just seeing people jumping around, freaking out, screaming. But he's also got ears in and he's also got. Oh, totally.

[Curly]

I wouldn't even put it on the artist. I wouldn't put it on him because I don't think it was right in front of him, really. I would just put it on security.

[Bobby]

Like, I watched a documentary a little bit. It is on him because they were telling him in his ear that people are getting hurt out. Really. And he chose to continue.

[Curly]

Wow.

[Bobby]

And what actually, like, what happened was that there was one stage that was just meant for Travis Scott. Nobody else used that stage the entire time. So whenever he went on, all these people rushed to this stage. And this one particular area, they all just came in flowing from the other stages, and that's where people got crushed. That area. Yeah. This one specific area, like stage left, that all these people were piling into because it was flowing in from the other stages, and that's where people were dying. Yeah. I think what I'd like my official statement on this is it wasn't one thing. There were, like, nine things that went wrong. And I think the biggest thing was just not having enough staff and not having it. Not having. Just from. I didn't watch the documentary, but from what I read about it, not having enough people make proper decisions about the safety of people. Yeah. Because there were, like, a few text messages that Went out before he went on stage saying, hey, something bad is going to happen here. And it just kept going. Over 400 lawsuits were filed. Live Nation and Travis Scott were heavily scrutinized. I can tell you that the good thing that's come from this is now when an artist sees something happening, you see it all the time. They stop a show, and it always goes viral. But this is why, because that triggered everybody to go, oh, we gotta watch. Now we have to also be in charge and not just trust the people on the ground to do it, because maybe there's not enough people on the ground, or maybe they haven't been trained enough or maybe so, yeah, that's number 10 on the list. Number nine, the who concert in 1979, Cincinnati, Ohio.

[Curly]

I wasn't there for that.

[Bobby]

Riverfront Coliseum. Were you alive December 3, 1979?

[Curly]

I was born. I just turned. I just was born March 21 that year.

[Bobby]

So you could have been there. I wasn't born yet. But attendance was more than 18,000. Thousands of fans, all general admission, waited outside. It was December in Ohio, so that means it was snowing cold. When they heard the who sound check, they thought the show had started. So there was only, like a couple of doors open. All the people that were waiting out thought the show had started. So then what happens?

[Curly]

They run in, they stampede.

[Bobby]

Wow, a stampede toward the entrance. Eleven fans died. They were trampled. They were crushed. Lack of communication. Again, it all. It almost always goes back to inadequate staffing. And then also the staff you do have, they're not really being taught properly. But also, that job turns over so much. It's not like you have full time.

[Curly]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby]

Fans were told the band hadn't started, but because the music had started, other fans were saying, I think the band is starting. So then it's groupthink, and then it's chaos. And so that was it.

[Curly]

And you think people. I mean, gosh, people in crowds. Like, it's just if you're all running a crowd of, say, you know, 500 people and a few people fall, no.

[Bobby]

One'S stopping because you don't even see them because everybody's so packed, so tight.

[Curly]

No, same with AstroWorld. You know, like, there's so many people, you don't even know anyone's getting crushed.

[Bobby]

Cincinnati banned festival seating for decades. The who, devastated learned of the deaths after the show met with victims families. It's used as a case study in event training even today. Number nine, the Altamont Free Concert, 1969, Northern California. The Stones, Jefferson Airplane, an 18 year old was stabbed to death by Hell's Angels.

[Curly]

Does it say his name?

[Bobby]

Yeah, it's very like Meredith Hunter pulled a gun apparently during the Rolling Stone set. Meredith Hunter, an 18 year old black man, was stabbed to death by Hell's Angels after allegedly pulling a gun.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

One murder, dozens of injuries, multiple beatings during the day. Boy, you get Hells Angels in there. They're. They're not. You talk about not trained.

[Curly]

They're a motorcycle gang. Right. Like it's a motorcycle club with a bad reputation. And they held up to that reputation. Again, whole documentary on that. I think it's called Give Me Shelter.

[Bobby]

Because I've always heard that, that, that tale, the tale of the Rolling Stones hiring the Hell's Angels.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

I didn't realize it was a music festival.

[Curly]

They have video of it too.

[Bobby]

Woodstock99. I've seen this documentary.

[Curly]

Oh, this is crazy.

[Bobby]

This one's crazy. Over 200, 000 people. They had it at an abandoned Air Force base.

[Curly]

Yes. I mean, there was a lot of.

[Bobby]

So hot. And I think of the Air Force base, it was all concrete.

[Curly]

Yep, all concrete. They didn't have enough water for everyone.

[Bobby]

Bottled water cost $4. Well, now that's not even that much. But back then that was a lot. Yeah. Food was overpriced, the toilets were overflowing. I remember that being a big part of it. They can try to blame the artists and they do. They blame Limp Bizkit. They did break stuff. The documentary. They did that stuff, the Chili Peppers. You know, people start setting fires, then burn it. But the crowd was already there. And it was a very aggressive lineup anyway, because I remember in the documentary, think it was Jewel was like. I was like the only girl.

[Curly]

Yeah. And I think Alanis maybe.

[Bobby]

Maybe that's even who it was. It was like. It was just so aggressive.

[Curly]

And it was, you know, like sandwiched by Offspring and Limp Bizkit, you know, so interesting.

[Bobby]

Zero official deaths, but a lot of sexual assaults.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

And then a lot of people getting treated for like, dehydration.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Heat stroke, being hurt. It's kind of hard to get out of there as well because there's so many people in an area that there weren't that many roads in and out. Kind of like the original Woodstock. They credit it to greed, just greed. Because people wanted to make money. They didn't make sure the other stuff was taken care of.

[Curly]

Which wasn't the problem with the original Woodstock. I think they lost a lot of money because again, they broke down the fences. There.

[Jay Shetty]

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[Bobby]

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[Bobby]

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[Bobby]

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[Bobby]

A foot washed up, a shoe with.

[Chase Elliott]

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[Bobby]

They had no idea who it was.

[Chase Elliott]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire, that not a whole lot was salvageable.

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[Curly]

He never thought he was going to get caught.

[Chase Elliott]

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[Bobby]

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[Bobby]

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[Bobby]

And we're back on the Bobbycast. A lot of this stuff has documentaries on them, huh?

[Curly]

Yeah, so far, I think everything you've mentioned has a documentary on it.

[Bobby]

Do you know about Pearl Jam at the Rose Killed a festival?

[Curly]

Pop Pops, Pops Guild? Or is it Sweden?

[Bobby]

That's in Denmark.

[Curly]

Or Denmark. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby]

Rose Killed a festival. I'm not sure to say it. June 30, 2000. Over 100,000 people. What do you know?

[Curly]

It was the same kind of situation where people were getting crushed in the front.

[Bobby]

A lot of mud.

[Curly]

Maybe three people died.

[Bobby]

Nine.

[Curly]

Oh, gosh, nine people. Eddie noticed something was wrong. Eddie Vedder noticed something was wrong. He tried to stop it, but by that time, yeah, people were already hurt. And they didn't play for two years.

[Bobby]

It says they almost disbanded out of grief.

[Curly]

He said it too. He's like, if. I swear, if anyone's hurt here, like, we'll never play again. And they didn't play for, like, two years, and then they eventually played again.

[Bobby]

But during Pearl Jam set, fans rushed forward. Slippery mud, crowd density and low visibility led to fans falling and being trampled. Pearl Jam stopped playing, as they know, to chaos in the crowd. Nine young men died, crushed or suffocated. Organizers were overwhelmed, slow to respond. Pearl Jam nearly disbanded. A grief.

[Curly]

I've been to shows where, like, I feel. I felt like we were getting really squashed, but never to the point where, like, I can't even imagine what it feels like to be so pushed up against something where you're gonna die. You know what I mean? Like, I've definitely been in tight quarters where we're trying to, like, stop, stop, like, stop pushing. It's getting tight, but to the point where, like, you die because you're getting squished so hard. Is it, man.

[Bobby]

The Indiana Ferris State collapsed. I remember that one. Sugar Land.

[Curly]

Sugar Land.

[Bobby]

The storm.

[Curly]

Yep.

[Bobby]

The wind.

[Curly]

This is the stage, right?

[Chase Elliott]

Yep.

[Bobby]

So 12,000 people there. A sudden 60 to 70 mile per hour gust of wind hits right before Sugar Land set the stage rigging, collapsed onto the crowd. Fans had little warning or time to evacuate. Seven people died, 58 injured. Severe weather alerts were ignored or downplayed. There were inadequate structural reinforcements. It led to legal battles over responsibility. Was it the state, the stage, the company, the band? Families got big settlements in the millions, and that ended up creating new standards for outdoor stages. Yeah, yeah.

[Curly]

Have you ever talked to Christian about that? Like, have you ever done a Bobby cast or anything with Christian?

[Bobby]

Yes, but it's a long time ago, over 10 years ago. And I don't remember what he said, but I'm pretty sure we touched on it.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Bobby]

Right, Mike? I'm pretty sure we did. Yeah.

[Curly]

Go through the archives. Look at that.

[Bobby]

I've done so many interviews. I was thinking the other day I saw somebody on Instagram and it was a songwriter, and I was like, oh, that's interesting. I don't think I've ever met them. And then I clicked to see if they've ever messaged me. Cause I'll do that sometimes. And we had done a Bobby cast together.

[Novak Djokovic]

That's crazy.

[Curly]

How many? How many do you have?

[Bobby]

This is 5:32.

[Curly]

Wow. That's insane.

[Bobby]

So I would imagine we've done 450 interviews at least. Yeah.

[Curly]

That's amazing.

[Bobby]

It's a lot. I don't even remember everybody I've interviewed. Obviously, by looking at that Instagram, I going like, I wonder if I ever met them or if we ever DM'd. And it's like, oh, we've done it. What's been at my house, what's cool.

[Curly]

Is most of them been to your house. That's the cool part too.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Almost all. Almost all. And to think of the houses, the condo downtown, that's where we started this, the condo.

[Curly]

Where would you do that?

[Bobby]

Where would you. In a room. We set up a little thing. I remember Caitlin Smith and Ryan Hurd being two of our first ones. Right.

[Curly]

That's cool.

[Bobby]

And so then the condo flooded because they broke a pipe above. And so I had to move to another house. And we set up another studio in another bedroom at the very top of this house. And so people would come in the house, front door, go on up.

[Curly]

That's crazy.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Looking back, having all those people kind of crazy. And then from that house, moved to the other house. When I was in Belmead.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

And that was in the house too. But you came in the front door, went right up the stairs.

[Curly]

I remember that one.

[Bobby]

That was a bigger, kind of like extra room, they call it. So we had a studio space up there, but they still had to come in the house. And so that's also when Covet hit. And my wife, who was My girlfriend at the time before, she's my fiance, she was there and she was like, man, it's kind of weird if people come in your house. I was like, oh, I never really.

[Curly]

Thought about that because you're just single, dude.

[Bobby]

Yeah. And she was also like, it's kind of weird you never come out of your bedroom. I was like, yeah, you know?

[Curly]

Never thought of that.

[Bobby]

Never really thought about that either. Just live in the bedroom. And so we got a new house with gates around it, and it had a separate building on the property for the first time. And so we lived there. Sold that one. And the place where now there's a building on property. You don't have to come in the house.

[Curly]

It's perfect.

[Bobby]

It's perfect. But we're moving out of that, not the house.

[Curly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby]

We're going to have our own independent property off the.

[Curly]

No one lives there.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Because now it's like. It's weird. People are coming to my yard all the time because I don't even know these people. So. Yeah, we used to do them in a bedroom. And I know Christian and I had to talk about that. Now we're at Route 91, harvest festival number three. So our connection there is. We play. Eddie and I played the night before it happened. Now we were gone.

[Curly]

We were already home.

[Bobby]

Yep. I remember we had played our show and we played late in the night, believe it or not. We. They. We were at Dark playing that massive festival.

[Curly]

I think we were like, third. Third before. Yeah, third of the end.

[Bobby]

So it's like main Head Head. Main support us and like five acts before us.

[Chase Elliott]

Yep.

[Bobby]

Yeah. It's kind of crazy that they had us in bizarre places.

[Curly]

Hey, man, I don't know. I didn't argue with that lineup.

[Bobby]

I know.

[Curly]

That's pretty good.

[Bobby]

So we played on, like a Saturday night. We wake up, we get our flights, we go back home the next morning on Sunday and whatever. And then I get a call late at night from Jake Owen, who I think he had played Sunday. Yes. Like Pre Aldean, and was like, where are you? It was like 11 o'. Clock. It was even later because they're at two hours back.

[Curly]

Correct.

[Bobby]

And I was like, huh? He's like, are you here? And he was acting weird. I was like, what? And he's like, somebody just shot and killed a bunch of people at the festival. And I was like, no, I'm gone.

[Curly]

Yeah, we're in Nashville.

[Bobby]

And I couldn't really connect because I was half asleep. So I got up and that's when we realized there was all the guys were shooting and killing everybody from the hotel.

[Curly]

He was barricaded. Right. So he called you from wherever he was barricaded.

[Bobby]

Yes, but he, I. And I don't know which version of barricaded because I think he moved around a little bit. Like he was in like a behind stage and like a refrigerator or something. Then got in a. But I don't know what happened. But then we came on the air like three o' clock that morning, just turned on the switch and the satellite because we're like, what is happening? But that was October 1, 2017, the Route 91 Harvest Festival. A gunman fired over a thousand rounds from 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel directly into the concert crowd. Chaos erupted. It lasted 10 minutes. Think about that. 10 minutes. That's a long time of just shooting.

[Curly]

Yep.

[Bobby]

58 people were killed. Over 850 people were injured. The shooter had stockpiled over 20 assault rifles. The motive still is unclear. It exposed the vulnerability of open air concerts. That area, is it even being used now?

[Curly]

No.

[Bobby]

Or is it still down?

[Curly]

It's just an open lot. Really drove by it a few months ago. It's just still there.

[Bobby]

There's nothing there because that festival was there. But we also did stuff for our company. We had a big like outdoor festival before. Our iHeartRadio music festival was kind of.

[Curly]

Used a lot for that.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Because it was right on. Right on the edge of the strip.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Curly]

That was a crazy moment.

[Bobby]

It's kind of a sad one to do. Like, it's wild to think about this stuff because we were alive for most of them, but. Yeah, it's kind of bringing me down, to be honest with you.

[Curly]

Yeah. I mean, I guess it's good to talk about this stuff, but. Yeah, it's sad.

[Bobby]

Number two, I remember where we were when this happened. It's the, I think it's called the Bataclan Theater in Paris. Is this the Eagles of Death Metal were playing?

[Curly]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby]

And during the concert, three armed ISIS terrorists stormed in, opened fire on the crowd, reloaded several times, took hostages. French special special forces stormed the building. 90 were killed. Over 130 across Paris that night. But 90 people were killed from that show. There were coordinated ISIS attacks from what I remember, all across Paris. We were doing a show in Richmond, Virginia.

[Curly]

That's right.

[Bobby]

What I remember about that show is we were.

[Curly]

We were about to go on.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

And we were right about to go on.

[Curly]

We were right about to go on. And I guess, you know, Paris, France. Time is. What is it?

[Bobby]

Five hours, maybe seven.

[Curly]

Seven hours.

[Bobby]

Something.

[Curly]

So. Yeah. So it had just happened and we were. It was nighttime here.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Curly]

We're just about to go on stage and you're just like, what?

[Bobby]

I was like, what do I do? We went on. I remember I blew my voice that night.

[Curly]

Singing I would walk 5,000 miles.

[Bobby]

Yeah, just.

[Curly]

And we were. Mike, it was so stupid. Like, we had just like. I think somebody was playing chords and we're like, that sounds like that song. And we just started singing it. And Bobby's like, let's do that tonight. Let's practice it over and over and over.

[Bobby]

I know.

[Curly]

I think we blew our voices out on the. And then. Yeah. And then Bobby's like, whoa, whoa, hold on.

[Bobby]

Like, I was like, theater's got a tail. We were in a theater. I didn't think it was going to, but I was like, what if this is like doing it at theaters all over?

[Curly]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Number one. What do you think? Number one is so number. Your first guess. I wasn't wrong because I think you just had a different idea of what this was.

[Curly]

I understand what we're doing now.

[Bobby]

You know this one.

[Curly]

I mean, gosh, I would put Route 91 on number one. But I did think of Ariana Grande.

[Chase Elliott]

That.

[Bobby]

That was honorable mention. That was the Manchester arena bombing.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Bobby]

May 22, 2017. The show ended and fans began exiting. A 22 year old suicide bomber detonated explosive device. 22 people were killed. And that was the one that was basically number 11.

[Curly]

And she still comes back and gives.

[Bobby]

She canceled the rest of her tour, then returned to host to the One Love Manchester benefit concert two weeks later with Coldplay, Bieber, Miley, they raised over $13 million. Number one.

[Curly]

Give me a hint. Like maybe a time frame.

[Bobby]

2003, America.

[Curly]

2003 in America.

[Bobby]

It's tough to remember. You're gonna know it as soon as I say it. 80s rock.

[Curly]

Van Halen, Def Leppard, Guns N Roses, Motley Crue.

[Bobby]

Not as famous.

[Curly]

I don't know.

[Bobby]

Great White.

[Curly]

Oh, Great White. I don't. What happened? I don't.

[Bobby]

Oh.

[Curly]

Is there a fire? There's a fire. During their show.

[Bobby]

Yeah. So February 20th, the rock band Great White took the stage at the Station, a small club with 400 people inside. Oh, yes. During the opening song, the band's tour manager set off pyro. It sent sparks 15ft into the air.

[Curly]

And it's a small club, right.

[Bobby]

Within seconds, because the club had foam. I wouldn't it was soundproofed. The walls ignited. The fire rapidly spread due to highly flammable polyurethane foam or urethane foam. The entire club was engulfed in flames under five minutes. Over 100 people died.

[Curly]

Oh, my goodness.

[Bobby]

They were all trapped in there. 230 were injured.

[Curly]

Oh, man, that's crazy.

[Bobby]

Criminal charges were filed against club owners in the band's tour manager. Two owners pleaded guilty to 100 counts of involuntary manslaughter. Yeah, that was a crazy one. And I think maybe it's not as.

[Curly]

Known because it's Great White.

[Bobby]

And not only that, because the club only had 400 people. Yeah, a lot of people died, but it was like a massive. Oh, yeah.

[Curly]

Really hurt.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Yeah. How do you even end this podcast?

[Curly]

Who's. Whose idea was this, Mike?

[Chase Elliott]

I know.

[Bobby]

It's gonna be so dark, man.

[Curly]

I mean, I thought I was like.

[Bobby]

Hey, Eddie, you want to hang out and do the top live music tragedies?

[Curly]

And I love talking to you about this stuff, but.

[Bobby]

And he's like, yeah. And then about three, and I'm like, man, this sucks.

[Curly]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby]

I don't know. What do we learn here?

[Curly]

I mean, the pyro thing, it's like, I don't even. Like, why would you even a club have pyro? You know, like, that's. I. It's so. It's so hard because, like, concerts are such a cool thing, you know? And like, it's people that are. There are there to have the greatest of time. So when they end like this, it just is a gut wrenchery. Right? You're like. It's just like, this is not what's supposed to happen at a concert. This is the last thing that's supposed to happen at a concert.

[Bobby]

There's like a understanding of vulnerability when something like this happens because you don't realize how vulnerable you are in a setting like that.

[Curly]

With a big crowd like that too. Yeah.

[Chase Elliott]

Yep.

[Bobby]

So. Well, thanks, everybody, for listening.

[Curly]

Yeah, man. I think. Doesn't Ariana. Is that a. That one has a documentary too. I think all of these might have documentaries.

[Bobby]

I think the great white one does. I don't like watching those. I did watch the 99 Woodstock, where mostly because I like the bands. I want to see what this was about and didn't realize it was that.

[Curly]

I thought it was more about putting. Putting it together, you know, like, how would it took to put that. That festival together?

[Bobby]

But thank you, guys. Thanks, Chase Elliott. And we have another episode coming up later this week with Chit Jay Renshaw.

[Curly]

Yes.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Do it, do it, do it, Lady Success. Do it. If you want to go and check out what Chit's about. So Chit is a dude. Jay Renshaw created this character. Him. Another guy that actually films it and is the voice behind.

[Curly]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Behind the camera. And it has gone massively viral on TikTok, and Eddie and I send the episodes back and forth. And so we got Chit to come on, and so we'll talk to Chit, Jay Renshaw and play a little here.

[Chase Elliott]

Yeah. Is there a black person here?

[Curly]

What did you just say?

[Chase Elliott]

I said, is there a black person here?

[Maya]

Do you have a question?

[Curly]

Yeah. Is there a black person here? Chit, why are you asking that? Janice said there was one in here. Came to check.

[Maya]

There's a white person here, too.

[Curly]

I don't need one of those. Chit, please stop what you're doing. What's the big deal? I'm just trying to find the black person here.

[Bobby]

Well, you found her.

[Maya]

Let me set my sparkling down.

[Curly]

Oh, here it is. Chit, are you saying is there a.

[Chase Elliott]

Black purse in here?

[Curly]

Yeah. Yeah. Success.

[Bobby]

I like your haircut, Linda.

[Chase Elliott]

Thank you, Chit.

[Curly]

It's so good.

[Bobby]

Yeah, that was the one that got us on it.

[Curly]

Oh, man. I was like, what is this? It's great.

[Bobby]

Is there a black person here? And she's black. And you're like, where is this going? A black person here? And he was looking for a black purse. So, Jay Renshaw, Chit will be on later this week. All right, you guys, thank you for listening to the Bobbycast. We will see you soon. Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. And today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak djokovic.

[Bobby]

He's won 14 Grand Slams in a glittering career.

[Novak Djokovic]

Novak Djokovic, when you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How long can I push my own limits?

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick?

[Maya]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[Bobby]

There are many versions of what happened in 1969, when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a PO and.

[Maya]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Bobby]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week, we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Maya]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Curly]

It's Black Business Month, and Money and wealth podcast with John Hope Bryant is tapping in. I'm breaking down how to build wealth, create opportunities, and move from surviving to thriving. It's time to talk about ownership, equity, and everything in between. Black and brown communities have historically been last in line. Let me just say this AI is moving faster than civil rights legislation ever did. Listen to Money and Wealth from the Black Effect podcast network on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maya]

This is an iHeart podcast.