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The Bobby Bones Show
#537 - Bobby Gets Vulnerable + What Got Him Triggered by the CMAs + A Review of His Recent Visit to Barstool Sports + Taking a Deep Dive Into the Radio & Podcast World
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Bobby Bones
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I think maybe you guys have heard me talk about this before, but the process of my dogs has gotten extremely tedious. But I do it every day. So little backstory because we have a little room here, we have a little space to stretch out. I got Stanley about six years ago. Stanley's a bulldog. I never wanted a bulldog. I never set out to get a bulldog because I had heard that they were, I mean honestly very expensive. Not only to buy but to take care of. And my other Dog Bradley had died. I had Bradley for 13 years. My second book, I dedicated to him and I think he would have loved to have read that dedication, except he's a dog, he can't read. So he had died, and that's pretty rough on me. And so I didn't know if I was ever going to get another dog, honestly. And I was talking about it a little bit, and John Party reached out and he said, hey, my mom has bulldogs. Do you want one of these bulldogs? This bulldog's got, like a messed up eye and if you just pay to get it here, you can have it. And so I was like, great. It's a sign. It's a sign from the bulldog. God. And so I was like, yeah, cool. Because I definitely wasn't going to pay bulldog price. I just would have went down and adopted a dog. I mean, that's how I got Bradley the dog. Before that, he was actually a dog that was bred. He was in a kennel and they had raided the kennel and so they had all these dogs and we saw it on the news. So I just went and got one of those dogs and that's where I got him. And he was a Staffordshire bull, basically a miniature pit bull. He was awesome. So I didn't know if I wanted another dog. Got Stanley, and immediately he's a big jerk. Always running through stuff, always biting. He was a puppy, so it was cute. As he got older, it wasn't so cute, but tons of energy. I never heard bulldogs. Just fat and did nothing. Not exactly the case. He's great now. Love him, but man, the first like six months, I was like, I don't think I like this dog. But I was in it. And my then girlfriend, then fiance, then wife, all same person, she was like, no, we're gonna love this dog. We're gonna love the meanness out of it. And we did. And he's an excellent dog. Very expensive. I think at this point we've lost track of all the minor and major surgeries. It's gotta be somewhere around 15, mostly major torn muscles. Getting his eye fixed, Getting his wiener fixed. He's torn both ACLs. And did you know, and I've mentioned this before, that dogs have basically two arms and two legs, not four legs, because they don't have ACLs in their front legs arms, they only have ACLs in their back legs. And that's why those are legs, because they work like legs. So had him, we'll just say 15 surgeries. Thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars recently, he Got a staph infection. And thank God we are close friends with Dr. Joosse, because that's not just take a pill. It was months and months of trying to get the right medications. So that's what we did. And his stomach was all jacked up and he was pooping water forever. He was feeling bad. He really wouldn't want to get out of bed. And not that there's a big difference in Bulldog from getting out of bed and not getting out of bed. I guess it's just how happy you are when you're in the bed. Because he was someone who would stay in bed all the time, but he'd be kind of happy when he'd get out. In this instance, he would stay in the bed and not be happy and be sad. So we knew something was up, so we worried all this medicine. And so months later, after going through a process and she was calling like her old professors at Ohio State who run the lab unit. I'm making up words now. But that's what she was doing. She was like, what do we do with this dog? She was getting blood levels. We thought he actually might die, which made me really sad because I do love him. Which, by the way, don't get a bulldog. Not unless you have like an extra hundred thousand dollars for his whole life. Because they're going to be sick the whole time, because they are bred basically so perfectly. Where Eller, the dog that we adopted that we found is like iron. Nothing affects her. So Stanley's sick again, and we're going through the process and he's starting to lose a lot of his hair because he'd get these big wet spots on him from having staph infection and his hair would fall out and he had these. I didn't even put him on Instagram for a while because he had all these gaping holes. And he was like, why don't you put me on Instagram? And I'm like, you don't even know what Instagram is. You're a dog. And he's like, ah. He's like, you don't follow me. And I'm like, you don't have an account. You don't have fingers. So through all the process, trial and error, he'd get pretty much better. Get another wet spot on him, have to start over. He'd get pretty much better. Smaller wet spot, but still a wet spot. And I don't even know how to describe the wet spot, but it was on his body and it was some sort of pussy liquid. All the hair would Fall out and then it would just be bald and he would look like he was dying. Finally got him on track. Hair started growing back. But the process with feeding him every morning is we wake up, I do, I feed him every morning and every night I wake up and first I go and we have a bag of fiber. That's the same fiber that you and I would eat if we were eating fiber. Now, I've done fiber pills or I've done the cookies, but we have this bag of fiber and it's a little scoop. Put a little scoop in it. We have these little tiny bowls. We put scoop in the bowl and I fill, I don't know, a few ounces of water. I mix it up with my finger and I have to let it sit for like five to seven minutes until it hardens. Feels more like rubber than it does. I could pierce solid, but you get it. So he also has this powder that he takes and so I got to put the powder in the fiber. So from when I start to, when I just finished the first part, it's probably seven minutes. It's a probiotic. So we got a bulldog right now having fiber and a probiotic before he even gets his food. So we go in and in the morning he's got two pills that he takes. Take the first pill, put it inside of a pill pocket, take the second pill, put it inside the same pill pocket and squeeze it up and give it to him. Ella, our other dog, watches him get a treat, basically. So she's like, I need a treat. So I have to give her a pill pocket. Hers has no pill in it. So then I put both of their foods in a bowl. I give Ella hers. I have to feed them in different rooms because she's a little resource guarder. So I put his food in, then I dump the probiotic that is in the fiber into. Then I put another scoop on top of that, mix it all up, put it down. It's like a nine minute ordeal. Just feed them. Every morning we do the same thing at 5pm except now I have to do three pills. And so it was many, many more pills than that. We have actually limited our pill intake. It's far less than it was even three months ago. I think he's getting better, but he's been, he runs now. It's crazy to see him back healthy again. But he's six years old and bulldogs, their lifespan is only like nine, which sucks to think about. But I would not recommend anybody from the jump to get a bulldog unless you just wanted A freaking bulldog. Don't get a bulldog. I love him. I wouldn't trade him for anything. But a bulldog is bad news. Now, elder, on the other hand, whole different animal, literally and figuratively. Or he's small and fat. She is tall and lean and runs like crazy and needs to get her energy out. And so the thing that we've been dealing with with them recently is she's a perimeter checker. So she's always running around checking the perimeter for a way out. She doesn't know how good she has it. She wants a way out of a great life. She must not remember the mean, I don't know, six months on the street before we got her. But she was a mean dog, too, when we got her. Now, for different reasons, she was mean because she had to protect anything she had, which is why she's still a bit of a resource guarder. And so she would bite all the time, too. Bite, bite, bite, bite, bite like crazy. She's the sweetest. Now, no real risk of that at all, but she always wants to break out. She's always looking for animals, too. So we have a few acres of woods in the backyard. And at times she will go and kill an animal and bring it to the house and sometimes bring it in the house through the doggy door. And I try to get out of the house before my wife sees it because it's pretty disgusting. Rabbits, squirrels, grab bag. I mean, she's brought an animal before I even know what it was because she had destroyed them. And you may have seen on Instagram, but she found a hole. And I went and searched through the backyard to find it. Well, the back woods, because again, we got a few acres of woods and it's thick. It's like thicket thick. There are parts of it, it's hard to get through. So I. I ordered two machetes off of Amazon and I went and cut a trail in the woods just to get back in the woods to try to find her. It wasn't to get everywhere in the woods. Some of it I can't get to. Trees have fallen again, super thick for a reason, right? Security, privacy. But she found a hole. Turns out it wasn't a hole. She found. It was. The neighbors have a tree. The tree fell onto a fence and destroyed the fence. And it wasn't a hole. It was a full portal to a whole different world. And so we have air tags on her. And the first night, my wife's like, ella's gone. I'm like, what? So we go find her. Luckily we found her. She was across the street and it's a very, very busy street and it was 10:30 at night and she's a black dog, so it's hard to see at night. Luckily she came and got in the car. All good. It's happened four times. The first three, though, I couldn't find the hole. I thought it was a small hole. I went and I plugged up all these little holes. I'm like, there's no way she can get out. Not knowing that it was a full fence that was crashed down over beside the neighbor's yard. So anyway, the neighbors put up a temporary fence until they get the other one fixed, which they've almost got it fixed. Big shout out to my neighbors because they jumped on it quick and somehow she still got through. I don't know how she got through again. Drives me insane. She either went under the temporary fence, over the temporary fence, or there's another tree on another part of the fence that has collapsed that I can't find. But we got lucky. It's four times. Four times and we found her every time. I told my wife we were going to get her last night. We've been very fortunate in finding her. It's not always going to be like this. I know it. I always have the worst in my mind, the worst that we're just going to drive out and it ain't going to be good. We're going to find her and it ain't going to be good. So. But I'm looking at them both. Look at me as I record this podcast and very happy that both of them are alive because we've been through it with them, both of them. Stanley, a lot more than Eller. Eller's just new at escaping Houdini dog for sure. So that's been a part of what's been happening today. I made the mistake of taking a nap way too late in the afternoon. I'm not a nap guy. I would love to be a nap guy. I'm not anti nap. I'm very pro nap. I'm very pro nap for me. But. But much like the food that I eat, if I don't nap by a certain time, I cannot take a nap because it will affect the rest of my day negatively. Now, food, meaning if it's past like 1:15, I'm not gonna eat lunch because it's gonna affect my dinner. I'll just go without. Because if I have lunch at 2:00 and dinner is at 6, if dinner's at 5:30, because I do eat a little earlier, because I do wake up earlier, then it messes up dinner, then I can't eat dinner till 7:30 or 8, or I don't enjoy dinner at all because I just ate three hours ago. And then when I have dinner at 7:30 or 8, I don't go to sleep until 9:30 or 10 because my body's still digesting the food. And even if it's not affecting me, it affects my mind to the point where I think it is. So that's basically my brain. So I don't eat after like 115 or 120 max for lunch because I would like to have dinner. I will just go without, same thing for a nap. And the reason I don't take naps is because usually I'm not home in time to take a nap. Or if I am home, I'm back over in this studio, which I'm doing this from my home studio. I'm back over in this studio and I'm doing a podcast or like right now we're producing this 90s podcast which has taken us probably three months at this time. We're only through 1993. And for me to record it an hour episode takes like an hour and 30 minutes because I got to record the whole thing. We go back, we do pickups. So there's always something to do. So if I cannot lay down and get a nap and be awake by 12:59pm, I cannot take a nap because it will affect. We just went through it with my eating. If I take a nap at 2 and I sleep until 2:45 or 3, then I'm all messed up and I'm not going to go to bed till 11 o' clock because my sleep cycle is all off. Anyway, I screwed up today. I took a nap way late, not purposefully. I did get in shorts and a cutoff and I thought, I'm not feeling great. I'm going to lay in bed for a few minutes and just watch TikTok gather my thoughts. Which never really works because if I lay down there's no gathering of thoughts, there's no laying down to kind of regather energy. It's laying down to probably fall asleep. But I was not feeling good. I don't have a bug, but something's up. And so I laid down and I woke up like an hour and a half later. And I woke up pretty close to 4 o', clock, which definitely screwed up my day. And so my wife texts me and she's like, hey, do you Want to go to so and so and get some food. And, and I didn't see it for like 30 minutes. So I responded back. I was like, I fell asleep. And she goes, yeah, I figured mostly because I'm on the phone all the time and if I don't return a text message in like 15 minutes I am probably asleep. Or maybe I'm in the gym. And we have a gym here at the house and I have this program that I work out on. It's a, it's an app that I spent like $99 for the whole year and it kind of sucks but I mirror it to the screen in the gym so if text comment I, I don't see it. And it was around that time when she texts me. So I woke up and I was like, oh God, what time is it? It's one of those two where you don't really know since it was like 4:30. And I do wake up and it's. There's a four as the front number sometimes I was like, oh no, is it 4 in the morning or is it 4pm? So we went down to this place called Flower Child, I do believe. Pretty healthy place, pretty good. What sucks is the cany dairy. And she had full queso. That's what I like about my wife. It also drives me the craziest. She gives no craps about me in that respect. Like I don't eat dairy. But you know what? If she wants a full queso, she's going to have it. She's like, ah, it sucks for you that you can't have dairy. But I'm not going to let that affect me and I respect that because I probably do the same thing in many other ways. So we go down, have dinner, but I was feeling a little bit off, right. And so one of the things that I did is I woke up and I saw the nominees for the CMA Awards this year and not so much the music awards. It's basically the same every year. Every once in a while there's something a little different, but it's just basically the same. So you really, you already kind of know who's going to be nominated for the stuff. But then I saw the daily national radio show nominees and I got irritated. Now I was a little triggered because I just woke up from a nap, but I got a little irritated and we weren't on the list. And some of the shows, I know, I like them like Highway Mornings with Cody Allen. I like Cody a lot from Sirius. Good dude. Happy for Cody to be on there riding with Rowdy. Rowdy Yates. Not familiar. Sure, it's great. The Robin, Holly Stone, Rob Stone and Holly Hutton. I like them. Willhight and Wall. Darren Wilhite and Tim Wall. I don't know them. Sure, it's a great show. Big D and Bubba. And so there are these shows and five are nominated. And I'm like, we didn't get nominated. A little crazy if you ask me, but okay, I still take it. I hit save image, crop it real quick, send it off to my managers. I have two. They work together. Tom and Morgan, number one, who used to be the executive producer on the radio show. She's also the president of the Nashville Podcast network. And I send it off and I'm like, we didn't even get nominated. What is happening? And, like, I'm a little irritable. And again, it's because I woke up late from a nap. And also because, yeah, my feelings were a little hurt and I was angry because it's just a board of people. It's not like the actual CMAs. Now that is a massive body of voters in the country music space. It could be a record label, it could be pr, it could be radio. It's thousands of thousands of people. So when people get mad at the CMAs, they're not actually getting mad at a board. They're getting mad at a faceless group of 10,000 voters. Not fan based, but very industry based. This in the broadcast awards, that's not the case. It is a board of like eight people and they pick. And so in my mind, I'm like, I'm gonna find out who these eight people are. I'm getting peace of my mind. I never actually do that. And so I sent it off and I'm like, we weren't nominated. A little bit angry, a little bit sad. And my manager hits me back and goes, you actually won last year, so you're not eligible this year. And I was like, really? And so he sent me the 2024 personality of the year winners. We won. Yeah. So there's a lot of energy that I didn't really want to put out there that I put out there. It didn't go to anybody except my own team. And partially I blame myself for not napping earlier and waking up a bit discombobulated. Yeah, blame it all there. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
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Bobby Bones
And we're back on the Bobby Cast. I've been a bit irritable anyway lately. If it's just me and you talking, I don't know who you are, but I appreciate you listening. Every time Dancing with the Stars starts back, it gets brought up a lot and I like it because I'm very proud that I won that show and by me saying I won, I understand if you voted for me. We won this thing together. Because I was not a good dancer. There's no part of me that claims that I was a good dancer. For the record. Now, did I grow the most? Absolutely. Did I have the biggest fan following? Yes. They've told me that since they can tell you nothing while you do the show, but yes. And so I will still see people talk about my season online. By the way, I went up to Barstool last week and was doing some promo for my football podcast with Matt Castle. And that was a lot of fun because I really liked the shows that I went on. I went and I hung out with Big Cat a little bit on the Yak. I did macro dosing with pft. I did mostly sports with Brandon and Titus. Also shout out Big T on Macrodosing. And Arian, Arian wasn't there. He lives in Houston and does the show from Houston. But Big T, anyway, these are all people, like, in my personal entertainment space that I enjoy listening to. And so it was kind of cool. And I went up and I'm just interviewed, did an hour basically on two of the shows and like 30 minutes on another one of them and it was go up, be compelling, hopefully, and then promote lots to say my NFL show with Matt Castle. And that's an audience that hopefully I can get more people to come to. Right. That Barstool is mostly a male audience, where mine, for the most part, it's 60, 40 female. Right. And for the sports shows, I'm trying to find the females that like sports or the males that listen, see if I can get them to come over and spend a little time on our sports shows. 25 whistles or lots to say. So we go over, we do lots to say do all the promo for that show, which, by the way, hated. I hate watching clips of me because sometimes I'm just too much of a try hard because I feel like I need to do a great job. So I don't go armed with stories, but. But I definitely go armed with energy. And sometimes, because I am a bit of a try hard, it comes off wonderfully. Sometimes it comes off terribly. And it's one of the two. It hardly ever comes off as, hey, that's a pretty good appearance. It's either great or awful. And I really wanted to do a good job on these shows. And I walked into two of the three already in progress. And so I don't really feel like I did that great a job, honestly. I know When I went over to the Yak, which is like a two hour YouTube show, and big Cat's hosting it and there's a lot of people there, I walked in midway through a conversation because I was coming off another podcast and Big Cat was like, hey, do you have an internal dialogue? And I was like, I have two. And a little bit I was being funny. But what I meant also was like, it doesn't stop just from hearing me talk about naps and food, right? Like, it is. It's. Everything is anxiety in a form inside of me. Not as severe as some people, but it's just constant. It's like it's constantly on. And that's what I meant. It just didn't come off that funny. It came off as kind of try hard. I didn't like that. I didn't like how it came off. And by the way, I thought it was crazy that the guy they were talking about, he did not have an internal monologue. If it's one talking dialogue is two people talking. But I mean, I guess if it's talking to me. But he was like, no, I don't have that. And I'm like, that's crazy. But I like that. I don't like how it came off. It was kind of. I think I had a overall C appearance. But yeah, I didn't really like how I came off there and then. Even on mostly sports, the show I went in, I did that for a whole hour. They wanted to talk a bit about country music. And Mark Titus, big country music fan, almost wrote a book about country music. He said during. During COVID And I've been a fan of Mark since, you know, back when he was on the ringer days and now at barstool, he was a walk on at Ohio State. I don't know him from that. I just know that from him. But when I went to host for Rich Eisen to fill in, I had Mark Titus come on as a guest, as a college basketball expert. Like, I'm a big fan of what he does. And so I went in and he was like, let's talk about country music. And what I also know is that probably a lot of their audience, and they're the host, so I follow them, probably don't want to hear me talk about country music or them. They didn't come there for country music. So then I know they're all going to be irritated at me because I'm in there and we're talking about country music. So I have this guilt already. And this is all Happening while we're doing the bit. I'm like, man, people are going to hate me because they don't want to hear about this. This is my fault and I'm not doing a good job. And then I just try to match or, or raise the energy because if I raise the energy, possibly it can get funnier. And it had some funny one lines, but I didn't feel like that performance was great because I see clips of it and I'm like, look like I'm trying too hard. Went on macro dosing and I thought that was a. A better appearance. So loved it. Had a great time. I was super grateful that they had me and they allowed me to come on all these shows and promote lots to say, but, man, I just hate me sometimes it's a weird job and career. Whenever everything's about you, but you get really tired of you. And that is a constant struggle with me. We have this research that comes back sometimes and it talks about what I do good, what I do bad, what I do terrible, what I do awesome. And I don't ever make wholesale changes because I never allow the research to completely modify what I'm doing. But I do listen to the research and if it comes back like two times in a row, that something, I hate to say testing, because I'm not going to change who I am, but I will change how I deliver it. Sometimes if the testing's not coming back for something, yeah, I'll modify it for sure. Because I want you guys to get the product that you, you desire. I'm not gonna change the contents of the product, but I can definitely change how I deliver the product sometimes. So I hate me a lot of times because I'm just tired of me. And then if it's one of those rare seasons where I just get into the comments and everybody's like, you make everything about you. And I'm like, bro, you gotta. I have to. The literal name of the show is the Bobby Bones Show. And I think I do a great job at not being a spotlight hog. I don't need to be the spotlight all the time. I think if Amy or Eddie or Lunchbox or whomever, if they're hot, they get the ball. I got no problem with that because we all win. But the one thing that I can rely on and it's up to me to do the relying is me. And so that show is essentially about what I find interesting, what's happening in my life. A bit of country music, but not really that much. Like, we play some songs Sometimes I don't even hear the songs. Interviews. And then people will get on my junk and be like, man, you get in interviews, and I think I mentioned this in an early one, you just sometimes talk about yourself. I'm like, yeah, I'm just trying to make it a conversation, man, if I had to sit there and ask straight questions one after the other, it's going to be every other interview. And the only way that I can stay interested for an hour is to, like, have a real life conversation. But then it's like, you make it about, I know, trust me. I get enough me. Sometimes I hate me. I don't want to see my face again. I hate watching me in these clips. I get more tired of me than anybody out there possibly could be tired of me. Because you cannot listen, you can turn it. I can't. I go to the mirror. I'm still right there. And I've mentioned before how I really try not to lie. And I think if I do it now, it's not on purpose. I think I may have said some stuff and I can't. There's no example here. I may have said some stuff and it turns out that maybe it wasn't true or my perception of it was wrong. I'm just covering me here. I don't have an example of that. But the reason I don't is because with all the shows that I do now, I can't remember the lies. So if I can't remember that I said something or that I did something or felt something, I just go, okay, how do you feel? Say it. And need it to be the same as it was whenever I set it on. What other body of work that I set it on. So I hate me sometimes. I'd say about half the time. I hate me. About 25% of the time. I'm okay with me. About 15% of the time, I'm just tired and I don't care. And about 10%, I'm like, hey, you're kind of cool. I've been really working on that like yourself more thing. But that's difficult because everything that I do, especially in the public space, has been. You have to amplify it or it's not entertaining. I think having my wife has been great because with her it has been, hey, that stuff is important. Yep. Because it gives us security. But they could take that from you. And the thing they can't take from you is who you are. So let's work on loving who we are off of a microphone or off the camera. As much as we do the one on the camera. But she knows I hate myself when it comes to being on mic and on camera. But, yeah, when Dancing with the Stars comes up and I did a bunch of interview questions, it happened to be a barstool because they had announced that day or the day before the new cast. And it's been five or six years, maybe six, six, seven, I don't know. Since I was on the show and I won. Great experience. Loved it. A plussed it. Very difficult. Never thought I was going to win. Never thought I was going to lose because I was just trying to survive week to week. I was just trying to not be the slowest person so the tiger wouldn't eat me. And I still see people talking about it as the point. And I really liked Milo, who finished second. He was a kid kid then. I think he was like 16 or 17 then. Great kid, Extremely delightful. And I saw him talking about how he got screwed. And I don't think Milo got screwed. I think Milo was the third best dancer on the show that season. I think if you were just screwing over people because they were great dancers, which is not what that show's about. People want to say that's what it's about, but it's not what it's about. Otherwise it would be like, let's just find the best dancers in Hollywood and put them on a dance competition. And if you're a good dancer already, go. That's why the Bachelor people win a lot of times is because they have massive fan bases. And you know what massive fan bases do. They bring ratings. Now, I'm not saying that I have a massive fan base, but we're dedicated. I appreciate that. And we won the show. And I later found out that it was the greatest gap ever from 1 to 2. And they changed the rules so they could keep good people on because good people kept getting kicked off. But I saw Milo in an interview that came across my. For you saying he got screwed and they shouldn't have kicked him off. I think he got screwed. Third, if we're just going off great dancers. Tinashe on my season was the number one greatest dancer by far. Now, she didn't have a wonderful personality, so she got kicked off. And personality is just as much of it. And then two was the Fuller House, the guy from Fuller House. And I think he had danced at some level. Juan Pablo de Pace, I think maybe he had danced and he was excellent. Like he was a professional dancer now. He got screwed. So I think if you're going by who got screwed the most by being a good dancer. It's Tinashe, then Juan Pablo, then Milo. So I don't really think Milo got screwed. I think him getting second. I think who got screwed getting second or even first was Juan Pablo. That's who got screwed the most because he was Tinashe just didn't have the personality. Best dance or no personality. I remember Juan Pablo was upset when he got kicked off. He was like, how can I get kicked off? I'm good. But if you don't have it, if you're not number one in something, you're not going to win that show number one as being the best dancer or have the biggest voting pool. And if you have number one in something, you need to have at least top six or seven in the other. And also at the end, I got all tensions now. They gave it to me. It's kind of like a, okay, you pulled this whole thing off. But whenever the new season comes about, it's all up in my comments. I just get crushed by all the Dancing with the Stars blogs. Do you think that I set out to piss everybody off? No. I don't mind it because I didn't do it on purpose. If people tend to be pissed off by my actions of working really hard. I wasn't even a villain on the show. They couldn't even paint me as a villain on the show because I was so clueless as to what I was doing every week. I was like, I have no idea what I'm doing. I was falling down. I was getting low scores. I was apologizing. I was breaking rules. And like, I wouldn't know the very end of the dance. I wouldn't know it. So I flossed once. Like, no part of me has been angry, bitter, even. Heel. In wrestling, there's a face. Good guy, heel, bad guy. I was never even a heel. I've healed a little bit in the comments just because all those goofballs won't leave me alone. They're like, worst ever. You're the worst ever. You know who got screwed? Juan Pablo Milo. Okay, they didn't get screwed. I didn't change the rules that I was season 27. Up until season 27, that was exactly the same rule that everybody else had gone through. Also, I didn't want to do the show. I didn't have interest in doing Dancing with the Stars. It was not something I sought out to do. I got a call from ABC going, hey, before Idol starts, will you go do Dancing with the Stars. And I'm like, ah, okay, what do you mean? Host it? No, go be a contestant. And then after you get kicked off, come over to Idol. Still, the coolest thing ever was winning. But. But everybody being bitter five, six years later, crazy to me. The people that are bitter are the ones that wouldn't have won anyway. If what they're bitter about is what they think would have allowed them to win, they wouldn't have won because in order, the best dancers were Tinashe, Juan Pablo, Milo. Those three all could have fought for best dancer. But unless you're also getting a significant part of the vote, you're not going to win. But anyway, I did a whole episode. It's just weird to constantly have people angry at you for something you didn't do wrong or with any agenda. I was clueless, but, yeah, that's what's up. So I talked about that on barstool. On a few of the shows. They brought it up because it was. They just announced the cast. You won. What was that like? And I'm like, terrible. Terrible as in it was the hardest thing ever because I was living in LA for the most part, Mike D. And I had an apartment. They put you in an apartment, they pay for an apartment and they put you out there. And I didn't stay with everybody else because I had to work. I was like the one person who had to have a job while doing the show. And so I had to work every morning. But where the show starts at 5 Central, 6 Eastern. It started at 3am and so that's what I would do. Wake up at 2, go to the radio station, start at 3am, work until like 8, which is 10 here, go and train until 4 or 5 because you'd have lunch and you get like four hours with your partner. And then I would go and train in a different place by myself. And then to work so hard and kill yourself, and then people still be mad at you. I didn't do anything. I didn't cheat. There's no cheating. I didn't know where I was in the running every week. I just knew I never even got in the bottom three. That is a bizarre feeling to have a group of people that hate you for nothing that you actually did. Because there are certain opinions that I have, and I get it, that people don't agree with. And I'm like, yeah, people aren't going to like this. But I didn't even have an opinion. I just tried hard. That's what's bizarre. And also for a show nobody cares about. People care about it a lot. It was also kind of weird to go and do all those shows and be talking with a bunch of dudes about dance. But they knew as much as I did about dance. Like nothing. It was just like, what's that thing like? So yeah, that's what's up. The Bobby cast. We'll be right back.
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Bobby Bones
This is the Bobbycast. I just kind of came over here, if I'm being honest, to do, like, 15 minutes. I was like, I got some stuff on my mind, and I don't feel like on the radio show, I can get really the stuff on my mind off like this. Because on the Bobby Bones show, there are kind of two different shows, one on broadcast and one that's podcast. So we do the broadcast show, and that is very much formatted, because it has to be, because we only have certain amount of time because we got to get back. We got. There are commercials, there are songs, there are affiliates that are jumping out of stuff at this point like that. It to me is, I've got 19 seconds. I got to get out in 13 seconds. This segment at five and a half minutes, I can go 12 seconds over, but if I do, I'm going to have 12 seconds taken away on the other side. I got to make sure to get to Amy at this point. I got to do that. Is that show. It used to not be that way, but it definitely is now. Based on how. And I got to be careful about what I say here, because there are rules against it based on how we are judged. How about that? Based on how we are professionally judged. There are certain rules and certain times you got to do things. And we also have to get all of the hour in, meaning if we play two songs an hour, if we have this many commercials, if we, like, I got to get it all in the hour. Or like, if we don't get a commercial in, the company doesn't make the money for that commercial. And that comes back to me. So that show definitely encapsulated in restrictions, but still fun. Now, what we used to do is just put on, like, 15 or 20 minutes at the beginning of that. That was a little more free about stuff we wanted to talk about. That's cool and that's fun, but it really didn't scratch the itch. And so we just started doing a podcast, a second podcast in complete podcast form. And if you're listening to this, you probably know that because this is a podcast, I would assume that nobody listens to this that doesn't listen to the Bobby Bones Show. I would assume there's a very small audience, if any, that only know me from this. I think this is for sure a tributary off the Bobby Bone Show. Ocean, river, whatever. A small stream of water coming off A bigger body of water. And so we started every day doing the, you know, 45 to an hour, 15 minute extra podcast. Don't get paid any extra for it. I one, I enjoy doing it. Two, I want you guys to feel like you're getting a substantial amount of content from us each day. And three, sometimes it only happens like once every month and a half or so. Something really great will happen in that and I'll go like, oh, let's save that and put it in the show and kind of chop it up a little bit because it's got to be time, time restraints. So we have worked hard on doing that. Another thing that we do that I'm proud of is that when we go on vacation, for the most part we just, we leave new shows. I hate reruns. You gotta know, I hate reruns more than anything because I am a consumer and I hate hearing reruns or I hate when my favorite podcasts go off and I have nothing because I definitely have my schedule. I don't know if you guys have a schedule on when you listen to things, when you plan to listen to things, you probably do. You're probably like me and you're like, oh, it's Thursday morning, my bone show. Or for me, it's like Thursday afternoon I'm going to listen to my podcast with pft. I have it all, every day. I know. Crazy to think I would have something scheduled every single day. But I do that and I want you guys to have that with us. I think for me it's been a bit difficult and I don't want to say Mr. Company Guy, but I'm kind of that, like, I'm happy with the company I work with. I think iheartradio is an awesome company for me for many reasons. And the media space is getting more difficult. It's getting extremely saturated. It is harder for anybody to make money. And at this point right now, and again, this is a very fluid thing at this point right now, our radio show financially is one of the top in the country now, regardless of where ratings are, because we don't have a single rating, we're in like all these cities. And so it's like, Greensboro is doing great. Fresno, it's on fire. It's terrible. I'm just picking two places random. So I can't control that because the next month, Fresno is doing great. Now Vegas is on fire. I can't control that. There are a lot of things out of my control. Like at times there are local stations that will just go Dead air. And that hurts us in that market for sure, with people listening. But there's nothing I could do about it because I don't even know about it. So that's why I'm happy when you guys DM me and you're like, we're off there here. Because I can screenshot that and send it to, like, a local producer. But our company, I am fortunate to work for, and I think right now they're fortunate for me to have me, because I do a lot other than the show for the sake of being a good company guy. I never really wanted to do 25 whistles, especially at the beginning. I like doing it now because we've kind of. We have a. Like a rhythm to it. And so. And it's not all sports now. I didn't quite know what I wanted to do at the beginning, So a little backstory. I used to do a show on Fox Sports Radio with Andy Roddick, a national show on the weekends. And so we would do that show. And then he. And he was playing tennis at the time. He'd be all over the world. I would do the show from Austin. He would do the show from wherever. London, Tallahassee, wherever. And so he then was like, ah, I'm done. I got too much crap to do, like, play tennis worldwide. And I was like, I get it. So I did the show by myself for a while, and it was me. And then I had a bunch of, like, people that helped. It was like. What's the word? Good word. Probably not a good word. Sidekicks. But I had, like, everybody, like, Lunchbox was a sidekick on the show. So all these people that were doing the show with me, it was me. And that was fun. And then I was like, I'm out. I think I'm good. I was touring then because I was having to go to all these stations on the weekend and do the Fox Sports show from these different towns that I was touring in. So I'd do that in the daytime, Then I would go and then do a sound check and then tour at night. I was exhausted. I was like, man, I'm just gonna tour. And so I stopped doing the show. And this is when DraftKings first started. And they called. They were like, hey, we want you to come and come back to sports. Like, we liked what you did on Fox Sports Radio. We want you come back, do five days a week. And I'm like, I don't think so, guys. Like, the show is just starting to take off here in Nashville. And I was like, I'm good on sports. I love it. But I'm gonna focus on just touring on the weekends. And because I was doing a lot of raging idiots, Eddie and I were. And on the weekdays, Buy a Bone show. And so they're like, okay, we'll give you a lot of money. And I was like, that's okay. I already make a lot of money. I'm not money driven. And they're like, but it's a lot of money. And the company came to me and said, hey, you'd make us a lot of money. The company, they want a relationship with somebody who can do sports but doesn't talk just to sports people. I'm like, I can't do five days a week. And they said, would you do four days a week? I can't do four days a week. I can't do a good product at four days a week. Would you do three? So it initially started one day a week. It's at two now. But I said, okay, I can do one day a week, and we can video the show and we'll do the show. We. We called it 25 whistles, because I was only doing one season of 25 episodes, and we blew a whistle at the end of every episode, and we're doing 25 whistles, and we're out. That was the entire concept of the show. 25 whistles, and we're done with the show. And so we did season one, and they invested heavily into the company and into me and into us. And the company was like, this is awesome. Thank you. And I'm like, all right, gonna wrap it up. Thank you, everybody. And they're like, no, no, no, no. We'll give you more money. And I'm like, it's not even about the money. I just want to make sure what I can do is, like, the product is good. And they're like, do another season. And we thought about changing the name of the show. We didn't. And also, if I'm being completely honest, it was awesome to me to be able to get guys like Eddie and Kevin and Mike D extra money. Like, that's the motivator at that point, because the money they were giving me wasn't changing my life, but I was like, I'm having fun doing it, and the company's happy because it's making them money where they're maxed out in a lot of other ways with me, and my guys are getting paid. Awesome. Boom. Let's go. Keep going. So I'm doing that. So I'm doing the Bobbycast, which I really, at the time enjoyed doing because it was like bringing an unknown songwriter. That was a straight passion play for us. Not the Christian play, which I did. Go to that Spring Lake church camp, go up to the Passion Play, watch that. Boom. Been there, got the T shirt. But it was a passion play in that I was just doing it because I was so interested in either the creativity, the behind the scenes that went in to these artists. Like that of the artist was kind of talking about the things that they didn't talk about outwardly as much because people didn't care about them as much. I did. I had an interest in it. That was fun for me because, like, our first guests ever were, like, Ryan Hurd and Caitlin Smith, and there was songwriters. It's super exciting. With really no intention of that thing ever growing to what it is now. It's a really strong podcast now by itself. I mean, it's this one. What am I talking about? It's. But yes, you get it. I'm talking about it like it's not what you're listening to. So that one was big. And that was a couple hours a week, because it was an hour plus to do it and to prep for it. And then it was a radio show, and then I was doing whistles twice a week. And then Yellowstone called, and they were like, we did this podcast. And I'm like, I don't really want to do Yellowstone podcast. I love Yellowstone the show, but I don't know if I want to do a podcast. And the company's like, it would really help us. I didn't make much money from the Yellowstone podcast, but it was getting like 2000 streams before we took it over. By the time we were done with it, it was getting like 80,000 an episode. And they were still, like, really mean to us. So that's why I dropped out of that one. But I had that. And then the NFL called, and the NFL's like, hey, will you do a podcast for us now? It's a bit like soccer because I didn't work for the NFL, but the NFL could pay iheartradio and get me on loan, which is basically kind of what happened. And they pay me and they let me go hire whatever co host I could hire. And that was Matt Castle, who played quarterback for the Patriots. And so the company's making money off that. I am, too. Not a ton, but it's Buy Bone Show Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. It's on Monday. 25 whistles after Bobby Bones show on Tuesday. It's Lots to say with Matt Castle. On Wednesday, it's Bobby Cass. On Thursday, it's another 25 whistles. So it stretches. It stretches me. And I used to feel guilty about thinking that and saying that because my stepdad worked at the mill. Weyerhaeuser shut down. Mountain Pine doesn't have a mill anymore. But it all ends up with the energy that you're putting out. And, man, it's a lot of energy. I'm not complaining, but there are times where I just have no. And it's also why I hate myself, because it's a whole lot of me and my opinions. And if it's not me talking about me, it's me talking about how I feel about things. And imagine having to talk at this level, amplified for hours and hours every single day. You would hate yourself, too. You'd hate your voice. You'd say so much dumb stuff that you don't want to watch yourself. You'd start seeing clips of yourself on things and being like, I hate me. It would make you question everything that you do, why you do it, how come you don't get better. That's the constant spin that I'm in. And I plan to just do 15 minutes on this. I've now done 50 minutes, so if you're in the 50 minute club, as always, thank you. I don't know how many people are going to get to this because it's just me talking. But if you don't mind sending me a DM and say, Hey, 50 Minute Club. Just heard the episode. What are we, second week of September. Just heard that Bobby cast. That would make me feel good. You don't have to, but that would be super cool if you went to. Mr. Bobby Bowen sent me a DM. 50 minute club, second week of September. That way I'd know you were listening to this and anything that irritated you or that was good from this. But that's why I think I'm a company guy. That's why I do all these shows, because I want to be an asset to the company. Because these companies are having to make very difficult decisions all the time about value and not human value, but just looking at lines like, is this person worth it? We're paying them a lot of money. And yeah, they're making that money now, but do we want to get another contract with them? Because looking at the trajectory of me, blah, blah, blah. I don't want to be that person. Like, I'm super sensitive about security. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options, and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.
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Bobby Bones
And we're back on the bobbycast. I do turn a lot of stuff down. I say a lot. I mean a decent amount of stuff down. I got a company. It's not a company My book publishers offered me another book deal. They offered me half a million dollars to write another book. And I'm not going to do it because I don't feel like I can do it and it be good and you guys like it. And then me promoted and not feel a bit of guilt about promoting something that isn't good. So I'm not doing it. And it will probably never be offered to me again at that level, I think. And that's much more significant money than the other books, especially when I was offered up front, like, because they. They give you a guarantee, like an advanced. I've never been offered that much before, but I've just kept saying no. And I'm not playing. I'm not saying no to have them keep pursuing me. I'm just saying no. So. Well, I'm just saying no because I don't think I have it in me. I don't think I have a good book in me right now. I don't know what I would write about that I haven't written about already. Because forever, or at least first book. In a lot of the show, the brand was, hey, I didn't come from anything, and now I'm trying to make it. And I grew up very poor. And that resonated. You go to research the research that we get. It's like, do more of that. Do more of that. And I'm like, oh, my God, I can't do any more of that. Like, I hate me talking about it all the time. And I really don't talk about it as much anymore. It does come up some, because it's just who I'll always be. That's what I relate to. Like, people from small towns that grow up without a lot of resources. Like, that's what my heart goes to still. That's because I understand it, but I definitely don't do it as much as I used to. Even though, like, I would literally have bosses go like, hey, you need to talk about you being poor more. Because it's all the new listeners that ran. But I'm irritating the crap out of the listeners that have been here the whole time that have to hear me go, wah, wah, wah. And then I wanna reset that by letting everybody know, hey, I'm not poor anymore. Like, I made it kind of rich now. And I only do that to kind of reset the fact that I'm like, I don't wanna be the. And then I start to get annoyed that I do that. I think the one theme is that I just am always annoyed with myself. But yeah, no, we'd sit in meetings and the company would go, like, you need to really focus on how poor you are growing up. And I'd be like, listen, nobody gets it more than I do. Nobody has used that as their brand, even. Honestly. I say extremely honest, honestly, invulnerably as I have, because it is all true. I said, but, man, I can only do it so much. And they'd be like, yeah, but this, if you look here at this number in this quadrant, this is what does. I'm like, I. I understand why you're saying this, and I understand that it does appeal to people who haven't listened a whole lot and don't know my whole story. But there are some people that I'm lucky enough know my whole story and they roll their eyes because I'm rolling my eyes sometimes. Not because any of it's a lie, but because, like, we get it, dude. So if you ever, if you ever hear that and you're like, dude, here we go again. Just know that internally I'm doing the same thing for the most part. There are times where it really does. I feel like it is effective in either telling a story, a version of a story, a perspective from a story, but I don't do it as much just to get it out there where it used to be. Hey, you need to reset yourself every two days and do a segment about how you grew up specifically so you can mention that. So the new people know that I don't do that anymore. And at times I've tried to reset it by doing the opposite. And even I don't like that either. So here we are, over 50 minutes in. Just plan to come down here for 15 minutes and talk about the dogs and what we're going through with the dogs and how lucky I am that the fat one healthy and the skinny one is safe. And I'm not a big gratitude journal guy, but if I'm always surrounding myself with reasons things suck, I'm going to feel generally like everything sucks. Because I never. I never thought much of the corny. I'm just going to write everything I'm thankful for. It ain't corny. I get it now because some people, myself included, we're naturally down on ourselves and if we don't meet it with the positive things in our life, that wave will destroy us. Because I feel it in the past few months destroying me. And so in the morning, I'm that guy. Not every day. I try to make it every day. Sometimes I don't have time. But I got this stupid little leather bound book with a code on it because I don't want anybody getting in my diary. And I typed a code in and I open it up and I write three or four things that I'm thankful for, AKA that I have gratitude for. And I don't feel like it affects me, but I know it does because I'm constantly swimming in negativity within myself. For the most part, it's not even a commons thing. That happens some, but it's mostly within myself. There is nothing anyone can say to me that is a tenth as mean as the things that I say to myself. And so what I've tried to do is meet that. I've tried to meet that with, I'm gonna say it, gratitude. And what that is for me is just going, you have so much exposure to negativity, a lot of it provided by yourself, that we have to give exposure to positivity as well or it's going to be a miserable life. So that is what I encourage you, my friend, who maybe I've never met, but who understands me on a level that is extremely intimate because you just listen to me talk for 55 minutes. I have no notes in front of me. That was all from my head. I encourage you to find something every day that you're thankful for. Not to be hokey or corny, but if you're being mean to yourself, it's not fair. It's not fair to yourself. I'm not saying you have to be 10 pages a day, write poems, eat flowers. I'm just saying meet the negativity and at least be even. That's what I try to get, even. If I get even, that's a massive win for me. So I think that's how we'll end this. Go get yourself even. And if you're already out of it, out of the hole, great. That's awesome. I don't think that little talk was for you. God didn't plan that talk. Didn't even plan to go there. I think that talk was, for me, the last part of this and for people that aren't even. And we beat ourselves up so much because of what we're not doing right. We're overly accountable, meaning we're accountable to things we shouldn't even have to be accountable for. We are so sensitive to our own imperfections and flaws that we don't see the good things about us. That's who I'm talking to right there. Talking to me. So hope you guys have a good rest of the day. We just did over 50 minutes and I'll be talking to you soon. The next time I plan to walk down here and do 15 minutes and end up doing an hour or two of microphone, it's gotten completely dark while I was doing this. My wife even walked down to the window because I'm down in the studio and she was like, you okay? I was like, yeah, just doing. Do a little chat. Thank you everybody. Send me a DM if you don't mind and we'll talk again soon. Bye. Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production. For years, everyone thought Verizon had the best network because they did. But now the best mobile network in the US Is T Mobile. T Mobile's network has the most advanced 5G with more towers and their signal reaches further than ever. So you can text an Insta talk and say, you won't believe where I am. 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