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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
We're gonna start with some YouTube comments from the last episode. The first one says how do you decide what topics to talk about on which shows? This is from noradun7012. The first thing is I keep tabs in my phone. I have seven different tabs from Bobbycast BBS, 25 whistles. Lots to say. Like, I keep all the notes app right here, and then I just lay them in as it goes. And how do I decide what to actually talk about? I think I mentioned this before. It's just basically what interests me. Because if I'm not interested, it definitely ain't gonna be funny or entertaining or compelling if I'm not interested. So that's it. By the way, thanks for watching in the Weeds. This is the show where we talk about really inside things. We cannot believe the success of this show. So thank you guys for watching it, because nobody should care about the stuff we're talking about here. This is just super inside stuff. So another one was from B. Ball Jones. B Ball Jones 21. What does it mean to be a producer? You said Kickoff Kevin is a producer. Scuba is a producer. What is a producer? I'm very curious. So if you're a segment producer, you're actually making sure that I have all the resources to do the segment. So if Kickoff Kevin is producing a podcast, because he's an entire podcast producer of our show called Lots to say My NFL show with Matt Castle, he will make sure that the guest has been talked to before we go on to know where to be. He'll make sure we have the link. Anything that we send him, he prints off. He'll also go, hey, these things just happened in the news. Like, he literally is making sure that everything that we need to move forward happens. Basically, a producer makes sure the talent can do the things that the talent can do. Now, that's overall. Now there's also segment producers. For example, Abby produces a lot of the tell me something good means she goes and she finds the stories. She gets them to us. She matches them with whomever would be good at it. So a producer, for the most part, is the person that makes sure that the talent has the resources to pull it off. Information, guests, et cetera. Scuba Steve's executive producer. So he's running the show. I'm running the show. It's my show, but, like, right below me and the guy that's managing all the stuff with sales, even with the show, even vacation, like Scuba Steve's doing all that. So it's all the outside work to make all the inside work that's on matter. So there are segment producers, the show producers, and then there's like an executive producer that is managing all the people as well. I know. I was starting to feel guilty because that was way too in the weeds, but that's exactly why we're here. Okay, let's roll through some other stuff here. You ever say something you regret? Yes, many, many times. I would say the thing that I've said last was. And it's not that the words I said were wrong. I think the tone I said it in came off wrong. Where we were doing maybe the podcast after the show, and we were playing a voicemail from a listener, and she said, hey, I like it when the show talks about birds. I don't like it when we talk about aliens. And I said, hey, you see that name behind me right there? That's why we talk about aliens. Because it was my name on the show. I was totally kidding. I mean, I guess I wasn't kidding, but I would never have said it like that in real life. Obviously, everybody knows it's my show, so I'm picking what we're talking about. But I was very much using that tone, being sarcastic, and a lot of people got mad at me for that one. But, yeah, I also say a lot of stuff that's wrong. I mean, I think if you're talking for multiple hours a day and you're talking about things, just a law of averages on how many things you're going to get wrong or say wrong. You didn't even mean to say wrong. It happens. So I say a lot of stuff wrong, and if I'm really wrong, I come back and go, hey, I was wrong about that. For example, we were talking about the Carolina Hurricanes, who won the Stanley Cup. And I don't know why I said South Carolina, because I know it's not South Carolina. I for sure know it's North Carolina. But I had to come back and be like, hey, yep, that was on me. I don't know why I said that. But, yeah, I'll admit it, for the most part. Here's another one. What's an annoying thing that someone does during an interview if you have them in? Is there anything that. That an artist does, that if you see it, you'll stop the interview? So that won't stop the interview. But something that tends to annoy me if I'm interviewing someone is when they always want to take every answer or every other answer back to their project. There is kind of an understanding when you come in on the show, you're coming in, obviously you have something to promote. But I'm letting you come in because I think you're going to give me some compelling content. So I. So we have to do that dance. You have to come in and give me some fun stories, some Fun things to talk about. And in trade off at the beginning and at the end, or maybe a little bit in the middle, we'll talk about your project. But it's definitely a dance. There are certain artists that come in, and every answer is like, yeah. And it's. Speaking of that our project is out. If that happens. There are times where I don't want to have them back in at all because I don't see an artist coming in as a gift to me. Maybe three artists ever. And one of them is Garth. Do I go? I'm just glad they're here. They're coming in for a reason. It ain't to see me, ain't to hang out. It's because right now we have a pretty large platform, and that platform is able to promote their project. Now they have to give something for that. And we don't take a whole lot of guests. You know, there's kind of this weird thing in Nashville with radio shows. Could be other kind of shows too, where they just expect. If a record label has an artist that you have to say yes. And we were one of the first shows. We ain't playing that game at all. And not only that, we took out all couches from our studios that let anybody in the studio that's not the artist. That was met with a bit of controversy at the time, too, because record labels would want to come sit in the studio or PR teams in the studio when we had the artist. So one of the first things that I did because I got tired of artists looking at their label and PR person during an interview was pull the ability for anybody to be in the room except the artist. A little awkward at first. Secondly, we don't take many guests, and if I'm not super interested in what they're doing with our project, it could be music, it could be a TV show. I don't know. Or if they're not a massive name, like, my audience isn't gonna care. So we don't take many guests at all. And again, that has been met at times with, well, you're not a team player. I'm not on a team. I'm not on a Nashville team. I'm on a. I gotta get people to stream my podcast or listen to my show or watch YouTube so I can keep my job. There's no team. You don't give a crap. You're not on the team either. You're just looking out for you. So at times, we're looked at in a way that's not super positive because we don't take a lot of guests. I have to be really interested in what they're doing or they gotta be a big enough name to keep our listeners listening. But what do they do that is annoying and it doesn't happen a lot now. It's when they always want to talk about their project because it's a trade off. You have to come and give me something good and in exchange, I will promote your project. So that would be that answer. Do you look at your audience the same? Those that listen on the radio, those that listen on the podcast, and those that watch on YouTube, they are very different. Now, you may watch or listen on all three, but they are very different on the radio. The live radio show, it's so hard to get people to stay because while people are listening, live life is happening. Kids in the car, they're at work, like, whatever it is, it's life. So I gotta hit and go fast, get to the point, hook, grab, get in, do my business, get out. It's very much like that. It is a fire drill. Live on podcast, you very much chose to be there. With radio, there's a bit of passive listening as well, where people will just have it on and they won't be listening fully or they're flipping through at times and you're trying to get them. But it's very passive. And I know that. And so I got to hook you hard if you're passive listening. If you're listening on podcasts, I can actually be at times a little bit boring because you came there for a reason. And I don't have to worry about grabbing you, hooking you, and just entertaining you so hard your eyeballs explode. You can just kind of let stuff unfold. You can naturally, organically talk about stuff. So you'll notice if you listen to the part two podcast of our show, it is very much just hanging out with friends. Part one, it's the radio show. Gotta go. As soon as that thing hits. All right, here's what we're doing. Let's go. Four, four and a half minutes, get out, go to the next thing. Da da da da da. Podcast, you can chill a little bit because people chose you. But yes, the audiences are different. It's why we do two and a half hours of content every single day digitally, because we know the audience is so different. Do you like guesting on other shows? Not really. Mostly because if I have something that I want to talk about, I have a lot of avenues to talk about it. And sometimes I feel like I'm Just regurgitating stories. When I go on and am a guest on other people's shows, other people's podcasts, and if I'm not promoting anything specifically, I don't really have a reason to be on anybody's show. So I'll go in. I like to go and be a part of somebody's show. Like to sit in on a show if they're doing it and I get to be a part of that vibe, that element. Yes. To actually be the person being interviewed. Not really. Not my thing. I'll do it, especially if it's a cool show that I listen to or sometimes the company will hit me up and go, hey, we'd like for you to do this podcast so you can promote your podcast. But for the most part, I don't do a lot of guest hits unless I know the person or I'm really interested in the show. If someone says, hey, we're doing a show, do you want to sit in? I'll do that nine out of ten times. Because I can just say stuff. I can just comment on stuff. That's really what I do anyway. Just comment on stuff, talk about stuff. So if I can do that, that's fun for me, but for the most part, no. And also, I do so many shows, like, I don't have a lot of time to do other people's shows. How do you feel when people say you have changed? We get this a lot, and I love it because I have. Some people will say, you're just not the same as you were back when you were in Austin in 2003. You're right. You know who's also not the same from 2003?
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You.
Bobby Bones
And if you are the same from 2003, oh, my God, you need help. It's time to grow a little bit. So I have changed dramatically in many ways as a person. I have changed significantly. So obviously the show is going to change, but also how I do the show has changed because how the show is done has needed to be changed. I was freaking crazy the first 10 years of my career. We would eat Sundays out of each other's butts as a losing a prank battle. We don't do that stuff anymore. I just don't find that stuff as funny anymore either. But when people say, hey, you've changed. Yeah, I have. I have changed a lot. And I think I mentioned this on another show. I also have a full staff of people that if I screw up, there's a decent chance that my screw up affects their lives too. So I'M gonna mess up. But if I mess up dramatically, there is a really good chance that it messes up the lives of everyone that works on my staff as well, because there's the chance they just go, done, you're done. And if you're done, everybody's done. Now, would there be a couple people that survived?
Matt Altimix
Probably.
Bobby Bones
And possibly. But I have to think about that I'm messing with other people as well. I didn't always have to think about that, especially when I started out because it was just me and I was running, I was trying to survive, and now I'm trying to allow it to survive. So, yeah, I've changed a lot. No doubt. Let's see, here's one. I don't love it when you do remote interviews. And by remote, I think they mean if someone's on zoom. I agree. Zoom interviews are not my favorite thing either. Mostly because the timing isn't always right because there's a little latency in the Internet. And so I don't do a lot of them. Some of them I don't want to say no to, because I'd rather have it on zoom than not have it at all. An example of that is. And I don't. When I'm recording this, it's not out yet. You may be seeing this, and it may already be out. I don't like doing zoom interviews, but John Stamos was, hey, want to be on the podcast? I'm not going to say no to John Stamos. So he zoomed it up and he had headphones. Now, headphones help a lot, too, because if someone's listening through their computer, the sound has to come out, they have to let it finish. Then they talk, and it just kills the vibe and the back and forth. He had headphones on, so there was no. That split second matters a ton in conversation. That was a really good one. It's rare that zoom interviews end up being really good, because specifically of that, you got to wait for them to finish talking. If you talk over each other, then you both stop, and then it's this awkward pause of when does the next person talk. That sucks. What I love is when, if I'm doing a zoom interview, they have headphones or ears and a microphone, then it's as close to real as it can possibly be. But you're right, it's not the same. If we do 10 interviews on the Bobbycast, I need eight of them, eight and a half of them to be in person because I don't feel like I'm A great Zoom interviewer. I get a bit impatient, too. On Zoom. We talk over each other a couple times. I'm like, I'm out.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I'm out.
Bobby Bones
Let's just wrap this thing up. So I like you agree, Zoom interviews aren't as good as in person, But I have to weigh, would I rather interview them on Zoom and than not at all? And there have been a couple after I finished, I think it was not at all. But a lot of them end up being better than I even thought they were when it was over. Because I go into it with such a negative attitude going, oh, we got to do an interview on Zoom. When I'm interviewed on Zoom for stuff, I got a freaking microphone. And I got ears in, because I know from the other side of it how important that is. But I agree with you completely. And we ask people, too, hey, on this Zoom interview, will you make sure you have a microphone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they show up and there's no microphone. It drives me crazy. It drives me up the wall. Thank you very much. Something else I wanted to address. We were playing a game on the Bobby Bones show. Not a game that I put together or Mike, but Lunchbox said, I want to play a game where I give you two artists and you have to pick one of them that gets to stay in your life forever and one that has to go away forever, you never get to hear them again. And he said, we're going to do George Strait versus Taylor Swift. And I've gotten some pushback on this one. And I said, I'll take Taylor Swift. And Amy said, I'll take George straight. I just don't want to deal with the Swifties, guys. That's the answer. I just didn't want to deal with Swifties that day. And sometimes you make a business decision. And in that day, in that time, because I didn't know what he was going to ask. When we play games, nobody knows what any of the questions are, if they're playing the game. Like, nothing on our show is scripted out. Nothing on our show is known ahead of time. Heck, I would say 95% of the times that anything is even talked about on my show. The rest of the show does not know it's coming. Occasionally, I will say to the show member, hey, we're going to talk about this. And I know that happened, like 11 days ago, but I've had a note here. So when I go to it, just know that that's what I'm talking about. And that'll be 30 seconds before we go on the air. But I never want anybody to be so prepared that they've got something thought out that they want to say. Same with games. And when he said, keep forever and one goes away. George Strait and Taylor Swift, my life flashed before my eyes. And I said, I don't want to deal with the Swifties. I'm keeping Taylor Swift now. I don't know if it'd be different if you asked me that right now. Like, whose music have I listened to more over my lifetime? Probably George Strait, because he's been around longer from when I was a kid who's had the bigger bangers in the past 15, 20 years. Obviously, it's Taylor Swift, but a lot of people said, man, that was quick. To Taylor answer. I said, yeah, because I don't want to deal with the Swifties on this beautiful day. But that's why. Here's one. If you're gone, how does the show get done? I think what they're referring to, because I looked at the date, was Eddie and I had to go down to Florida to meet with some clients. And we played golf. And I had to speak at a big client event. We went to Palm Beach. I don't think I've ever been to Palm beach before. I especially haven't been to this part of Palm beach before. Cause it was really rich. You just drove around and everything looked gold, and there were yachts. And so we go. We go to this crazy club that I'd never been to. I'm not sure the name of the club, but I did basically do the Zillow. You know, you drive by someone's house, you want to know how much it's worth, so you just Zillow it. I just Googled how much it would cost to be a member of the club, and it was $400,000 entry fee. It was that kind of club. It was wild. So we go play golf there. Two clients are with us. Got very lucky because sometimes those type of events can be very stiff. And if you're playing golf with somebody, it may not feel intimate, but you're with them for four hours, and you get somebody that's stiff, it ruins around and it feels like it's 10 hours long. Got very fortunate that the two clients we were with were really nice guys. We didn't even talk business. And honestly, most business on a golf course isn't talked about until halfway through the last hole. Unless you've already been working on it a little bit. Like you're spending that first 17 and a half holes, just getting to know each other, hanging out, becoming boys. And so I googled the entry fee to that club. Like I said, close to half a million dollars. We play golf all day. Kind of got to go back to the room. Got to. I got to get dressed and put on some nice clothes because I'm going to go up and talk to all of these advertisers, including the ones that I was with, but some that I hadn't even met. I'm doing some jokes and talking about, you know, why it's great to advertise. And I mean, everything I'm saying. But mostly I'm talking about the relationship that the listening and the viewing audience has with specific talent. And there was a lot of talent out there. Eddie and I were out there. Clay, Travis Clay and Buck from that show was out there. Brady Quinn, who's on Fox Sports, played quarterback at Notre Dame, was out there. Steve Harvey show. It was that kind of thing, right? So they have me up. I was the only talent that was talking. And I spent a little time telling a couple jokes. It ends. But all of that was from early that morning until that night on a Friday. And so we were open about it. So in that type of situation, we have recorded that show. We recorded that one Thursday afternoon. But the reason that Fridays are so easy is because if we have a guest, we never do them live anyway, ever. I stopped doing live interviews with artists forever ago because I knew they didn't want to be there that early because they don't naturally wake up that early. So there's not an interview that we do pre 9:30, usually 10, sometimes 10:30. So we had had an interview already recorded. We did the rest of the show Thursday afternoon. And the show, the executives were like, hey, we can pre record your show and head out now. The other part of the question was, what do the other show members do while you're gone? Nothing. They sleep in. Scuba Steve has to go in for a little bit because he's running the show. Ray goes in to run the audio, but the people in the room, Amy, Lunchbox, Morgan, nothing. They sleep in. They don't have to go in at all. So if for some reason we have to pre record like that Friday, they ain't going in. They basically got a day off. That's pretty sweet. That's a good question, though. Do you have any new hobbies or anything you're obsessed with? I love sports cards and I really have to keep it at arm's length because I tend to, like, go really hard. I'VE also incorporated something new into my life that's very much a one in, one out policy. Like go back to the days when you go to the club or the bar and it's packed. Somebody had to come out before somebody went in, right? And so I was going through a lot of my cards, and I've got one of my tabs in my phone is sports cards. And I have a bunch here that I went through, because having chatgpt and having Claude, and what I'll do is I'll take a picture of them and say, hey, what's the conservative value? And then I'll compare them against each other and take the average of the conservative value. And so I have like my top 15 cards that I have in my house. Some I have in the safe as well. But I got really, really, really, really into it. Like, unhealthily into it, which I've done with a lot of things in my life. Luckily never drugged. That's why I'd be terrible at drinking or drugs because I would want to win it. I'd want to win doing drugs, win the drinking contest. So I haven't. But I'm one in, one out. Anytime I buy anything stupid, like an expensive card, I make sure to take that exact amount of money and make sure to do something good with it. And sometimes, let's say there's an expensive card and I go, okay, that's just gonna use a number that's $5 million. I can do that, but that means I gotta do $5 million for good. Oh, crap, $10 million ain't in. So because that, that has allowed me to not do as stupid a stuff. But if I buy something stupid, I match it and do something good. Because I have extreme guilt about buying stupid stuff. But mostly it's with cards with a bit of memorabilia. I still dabble in the memorabilia world. I got crazy into pickleball to the point where I was always buying new rackets, paddles, but wife calls them rackets. But I tore my ankle. I went cold turkey. I'm not playing pickleball for the first time until actually tomorrow will be the first time I'm back on the court. And after my horrendous injury, people are still talking about it. Oh, not really. But the baby has taken over our life right now, so there's really no time for any crazy hobbies. But I have reorganized all my cards. Cards are better than memorabilia because they don't take up as much space. Like, I got like 14 or 15 really cool signed helmets. Takes Up a whole fricking room. I got 14 or 15 cards. It's like this right here. Now, there's a crazy bubble on the cards, though, and you just kind of wait for this thing to bust. But no, I have no crazy hobbies, but I do have new ways to handle keeping me from having new crazy hobbies. Because if I spend money on anything stupid, I got to match it and do something good with it. And I like doing good with it, but sometimes I don't want to spend all that money. So there you go. Okay, what we're going to do now is we're going to go over. I was talking to Big Bob from Pittsburgh. Knew him from back in the day. He was on the freak show in Detroit and they went to Philadelphia. We'll talk about all this, but this is so in the weeds that I thought, let's just talk to another guy who's got a massive show and just see how he does this show. And again, this is extremely in the weeds. You may not find this interesting or you may be completely enthralled by hearing somebody that's got a really successful morning show talking about his journey. So this is Big Bob from KISS FM in Pittsburgh, and I getting even deeper in the weeds. Here you go.
Joe
All right.
Bobby Bones
That's going to be it for this episode of in the Weeds. Thank you, everybody, for watching. If you got this far, God bless you. I got bored halfway through and I'm the one doing it. We're so in the weeds. Thank you for the continued support. I cannot believe that you guys watched this show. I can't believe the numbers it does on YouTube. We will see you guys again soon. Until next time, stay in the weeds and stay weedy. I don't think that's going to last till the next episode. The Bobby cast. We'll be right back.
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Joe
It's Kevin.
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And this is Nick Jonas from hey Jonas.
Joe
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Bobby Bones
Everybody knew who it was.
Kevin Jonas
Well, I was homeschooled, so I like to think it was me.
Bobby Bones
A class of one.
Kevin Jonas
Congratulations.
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We still haven't settled who would be the favorite.
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In our school, we haven't settled who the favorite brother is either.
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Kevin Jonas
and we're
Bobby Bones
back on the Bobbycast. We're on rolling now. Where are you?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
My friend owns a pavement company and also a media company. So it's close to my house, like five minutes away. So I'm just like. Instead of driving back up to the radio station 45 minutes, I'm like, can I swing by and record here?
Bobby Bones
So he has a dual pavement media company?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, yeah. He's got his hand in a lot of businesses. His studio is actually nicer than ours.
Bobby Bones
I knew guys like that though. But they had their hand in a lot of businesses. It usually was criminal.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, he's pretty good dude.
Jacob Goldstein
Okay.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
One of the best I know, honestly.
Bobby Bones
Is your name. Is your real name Bob?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Is it, Is it Bobby or Robert or what?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, I'm a Bobby.
Bobby Bones
I'm a Bobby too. Like a real life. Everyone thinks that I'm a robber, but I'm a real life Bobby body.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We are a rare breed.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I used to think my name was young because the name Bobby is not. I thought like adult is Bob. And then Bobby was young. And then I realized my wife laughed at me and she said the name was most popular in like 1936. So it's not really a young name at all.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We're one of the few. We're one of the few. You're why, right? I mean, obviously, I'm guessing.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I was B O, B B, I, I would lie. I would change it. I would legally change It.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I work with a B, O, B, I. It's a female, but.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's a. If I was a girl, that's fine. My daughter's name is Billy, but with an I. But her grandpa, my wife's dad's name is Billy with a Y. Anyway, we haven't officially met ever, except just on Instagram or whatever. But I, you know, was doing this podcast and wanted to talk to other like hosts that I thought were really good. And I've kind of been following you guys career for a while. So you and Mikey and everybody that's listening, you can go listen to their podcast, Mikey and Bob. It's called Mikey and Bob, right?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
So, but it's the. You guys are the freak show live, but the podcast is Mikey and Bob, right? Or is not the freak show anymore?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We are the Freak show in very much the same way that you are Bobby Bones. Like it was a name handed over to us that we were to take. And as the years went on, we're just like, why aren't we just Mike and Bob? That's our real names. Just like there's, there's nothing fake or phony. It's very early 2000s radio, you know, so one of those situations.
Bobby Bones
Are you guys still titled the Freak Show?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
In some things. But we go as Mike and Bob usually with all our like, inside imaging and whatever. Whatever, Whatever else.
Bobby Bones
What about you? But your Instagram is. Isn't it still like FS Big Bob?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, I can't, I can't get the Big Bob from anybody. I forget. I contacted the guy years ago to try to weasel it away from him and he was just a total jerk.
Bobby Bones
So I tried to buy Bobby Bones from a guy once and he one, didn't use the account and still two wouldn't sell it to me. And if I don't have it across all platforms, there's no need for me to have it on one because it's so confusing to have it one and not the other.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
So 100%.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I didn't know you. You have a weird relationship with Freak show like I do. Bobby Bones because I. I hate my name. It's just who I am now.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
It was, it was handed down to us. I mean, we were on a show to start out with. We started as interns and kind of worked our way onto a night show with another guy named Tic Tac. And he was always Tic Tac in the Freak show, like a cast of characters. And we were the cast of Characters, basically. So we went and did nights with him. And as we moved to mornings, it just made more sense to carry it on, I guess, is what we are known. And then once we were in the market for a year or two, maybe a little longer than that, we just switched slowly to Mike and Bob. I mean, people still call us the Freak show. And like, I'm sure there's still a piece or two imaging on someplace on a radio station that says the freak show, but when we're talking on the air, it's just Mike and Bob.
Bobby Bones
I remember when you guys were doing nights with Tic Tac way back in the day in Detroit. Right. All you got. How did you guys get to be a part of that show? You were interns? Just the radio station.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't. I went to one semester of college, a community college, and didn't really know what the hell I was gonna do with my life. And there was a broadcasting school locally, and me and Mike grew up together, like, to go back all the way. We grew up together, played little league baseball together, went to school together. We've been friends since we were probably eight years old. So it's a unique situation. On top of everything else.
Bobby Bones
Did you guys go intern together?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I interned first, and then Mike took my spot in the promotions internship, and then I moved on to a paid promotion spot.
Bobby Bones
And so how did you guys end up getting on that night show?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We were wandering around. Tic tac sauce. He was very much a person that would walk around and pull people in, like interesting people that he saw in the hallways. And we just kind of stuck. It was very much the time, too, where if you were a big guy, you were the stunk guy, you know, like, it was. It was that kind of radio. So I was sent out on the streets to do wacky things, try to get myself arrested basically every night. And it kind of transitioned from there. Yeah. And then we went to. We went from Detroit and we got fired. From Detroit. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
What. Was there anything that led to that specifically?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
It was an ABC station, and we were pushing every limit that we could basically at night to just be the Edgy Night show and owned by Mickey Mouse. You know, at that time, we were probably pushing a little too far. I think there was one point where we. We took movie passes. I mean, it was all the listeners benefit. But one of the Lord of the Rings movies was coming out, and we took a bunch of movie passes from the promotions department without telling anybody. And that was not a good morning after we took everybody out to a movie premiere or a night at the movies with us, that kind of started it. And then there were. I mean, there were other things because I guy that we were on the show with was really the lead and he was the one who was paid the most out of all of us. So he had the most responsibility and things kind of went sideways.
Bobby Bones
How did that go when they told you you were fired?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
It's really an interesting story. They let me and Mike work on our air check because we were just the kids, right. So we were going up there at night, middle of the night, working on our air check, not during the daytime. And we go to go in the station and we are in a big old historic building in Detroit. We scan our card and it dings red. It's just like, there's no way. Just like our. All of our air check stuff's in there and we're making fake air checks, you know, like it's nothing even that we're on the air really for or we're cutting up stuff that we did on the night show. Just cutting Tic Tac out of it, making me and Mike. So it dings again. Dings again. We email our promotions director at the time. He's just like, sorry, guys, you've been let go. That's how we found out.
Bobby Bones
Wow. So through an email, you didn't get back up to your office?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, no.
Bobby Bones
They didn't tell you before you even got back to work?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, no, it was. It was all shut off, man. And then we. We played Madden on Mike's back porch for like three months and sent out air checks. At that time, he had to send out CDs. We sent them out to everybody station in the country of just me and Mike. Like the little bits that we did have saved and nobody, nobody responded. Like, we reached out one guy, Kalamazoo, Michigan, there was a program director, but he's just like, I can't take both of you guys. I only got like 14 grand for the job. And our response was just, we'll come. Like we'll work at the grocery store during the day and do your night show. And I think we scared the hell out of him and never heard from him again. Or he was just trying to be nice.
Bobby Bones
He didn't say yes to that. He just ghosted you after that.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah. I mean, when I say literally every everywhere, like we were Anchorage, Alaska, like we were willing to get up and go and everything and just nothing worked out. And I mean, at the same time, we're still friendly with the night guy that we did the show with. Tic Tac. So we were hanging out with him. It's really weird. There's this invisible string. You know what I'm talking about? Like, when people say there's an invisible string between you and us that you probably have never heard before.
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Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I thought you're probably Taylor Swift. I thought you were going into the whole invisible string.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, like an invisible string that connects us in a weird way that no one will ever know.
Bobby Bones
I'm anxious to hear this.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Before you got the job in Austin, that was gonna be our job. Like, we were talking to people. Can you. Did you lose me?
Bobby Bones
No, I got you in one ear. My ear.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Okay. Yeah, we were talking to people, and, like, that was the. Do you know Dom, Theodore?
Bobby Bones
I do, yeah.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Like, Dom was helping us out, talking to people throughout the company and trying to get us. Because we were coming from abc, and he was trying to get us over to the other company. And that was the job that came up. And we're. We were sitting on it for, like, two days, and we're just like, well, it doesn't sound bad. Just like, we can go do nights in Austin. Like, sounds great. Like, we don't know anything about Austin, Texas. But the guy who were on the show with Tic Tac, he was from Dallas, so I guess that was okay. And then Philly came calling, like, the next day. Like, the next morning. Something happened in Philly where the night show got fired and Philly was offered, and we were off and running.
Bobby Bones
What happened in Philly to that show? Who was the show?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Somebody who's an executive someplace. Now, I believe you don't want to say. I can tell. I can tell. I can send you a message and tell you what happened. I think they. I think they have a pretty prominent role in a company that's a big company, not ours.
Bobby Bones
The Austin thing was interesting because I got in a lot of trouble in Little Rock. Cause I was doing nights in Little Rock, I was finishing college, and we had broken into a radio station in Little Rock and taken over another station's airwaves. And I got in a ton of trouble. I'm talking bad stuff and thought I was going to be fired. I wasn't. But it was right after that stunt had made, like, the trades that I got a call from Jay Shannon, and he said, hey, you should take this Austin job. I'm here. I'd never been to Austin either. And the next day I was like, I'm Gone. I moved down. Never been moved down in a snowstorm. My favorite city I've ever lived in. Nashville's great. I was talking to my wife about this last night. She said, do you think it's just because it was that time of your life that you love Austin, you know, more than even Nashville? I said, possibly that has a lot to do with it because it was just. I was broke then, but you're just kind of carefree. When I was 22 years old, I mean, and I got. I ended up getting the morning show when I was 23 there because the station was doing so poorly. That's a great city to go from Little Rock to Austin now to go from Detroit to Philly. Did that feel like a massive upgrade to you guys?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Upgrade? No. I mean, they were still. They were both. Dude, it's so weird because they're Both still top 10 markets, but upgrade. I wouldn't say, but there was definitely a lot more opportunity in Philly. Like, it was definitely the time in radio where artists at least in the top 40, still came through radio and like, you know, did our concerts and it was everything happening all at once. And we were right in the middle of it, basically. And I was. I was still doing the street stuff at that time. So a lot of times I.
Bobby Bones
Would you and Mikey, or did Tic Tac go as well?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Tic Tac came with us to Philadelphia, too.
Bobby Bones
Were you guys all a little more equal now since you all went together?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Somewhat. But I wasn't still in the studio. I was still serving out on the street basically, fully. But we were all getting paid pretty decent at that point. Like, not a lot. I think we moved for. I think it was $36,000. But that's a three person night show.
Bobby Bones
Wait, they paid 36,000 for all three of you or 36?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, I think me and Mike were. 36,000. I'm not sure what Tic Tac was making, but, like, that was a lot of money to invest in a night show even, you know, even now. But how long. But I was still. I was still out on the street. I was still out on the streets every night trying to get arrested, basically. Like it was the very much the jackass years.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
And I was just doing dumb things every night. There are plenty of times where I ended up in handcuffs or I don't actually have a police record. I don't believe. So That's. That's positive.
Bobby Bones
How many times you get put into a car, a cop car?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Twice.
Bobby Bones
For what?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Once we did A we had a thing we did called Hump day Wednesday, where I would just go out to random businesses and drop my pants and yell at some day Wednesday. And I was wearing boxer shorts, obviously, but I would just hump things. So there was a time at a mattress store where I started humping a mattress and the police showed up and got me and. And the impounded the station vehicle. That was a rough morning. I had to go to court the next morning. Then I had to go get the station vehicle out. Wasn't great. Been through some radio times, Bones.
Bobby Bones
Do you look back at those? Because I do the stuff that I did like that and go, what the heck was I thinking? Yeah, some of it in a ridiculous way where I go, man, I'm so fortunate I did not get into more trouble than I did. I look back with real. A real appreciation for the people who did not arrest us.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
There are plenty of times where we could have fumbled this whole thing and it just could all have been over. And I would have been back in my small town. We grew up in Michigan working at the city works building, cutting lawns. You know, like, it really could have went sideways so many times looking back, because at that time, I don't know how much. I'm sure we brought worth to the station, but they could have disposed of us and just moved on to the next one, you know?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Especially a night show.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Right.
Bobby Bones
They were always first middays and then nights were always first to go because it wasn't like advertising. Cost a whole lot to be on at night.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Right, right, exactly.
Bobby Bones
So how long were you guys in Philly?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Almost two years.
Bobby Bones
How did that end?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We got the offer to come do mornings here in Pittsburgh, and we all three came. I was 22 at the time, or now I was 20. I just turned 23. Mike was 22, and Tic Tac came with us and decided within like, the first month and a half maybe, that he just didn't want to wake up and do mornings. And he was like, peace out, I'm done. Like, we came on. We came on to our station, had no morning show at that time. It was a syndicated morning show out of the middle of nowhere. I don't even. I could. I think it was Seattle, a syndicated morning show out of there that was run off cd, probably a day or two, tape delayed. And it was just awful. Like, it was horrible. And the ratings were less than 1 share in the morning show. And within that first month and a half, we came on and shocked the system and just built from there.
Bobby Bones
Is that the same station you're on now?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
And that, that's been on. Is that an Iheart station? Yeah, yeah, it's a kiss. I mean, most kisses are, I assumed, but. And you guys have been on for how long there now?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
23.
Bobby Bones
Since. Since 22.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, 2004.
Bobby Bones
Oh, my God. You've been on there that long, bro?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Dude, my mind is blown. That is crazy.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We've survived, we've survived every cut, we've survived every syndication wave that's come across their company.
Bobby Bones
You've been on for over 20 years at Kiss Pittsburgh.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, I mean, we've also had, we've also had the chance to move to different markets along the, you know, years. And it's just like we found our home, we found our people. We make pretty good money here for Pittsburgh and we make, you know, make the company enough money to make it worth, to keep us around.
Bobby Bones
Oh, man, my mind is blown. Did you guys keep in touch with Tic Tac?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I haven't talked to him in probably 15 years.
Bobby Bones
Does he do radio at all now or any media do?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
You know, I'm still friends with him on Facebook, so when I hop on there, like, I'll see that he's doing stuff. I think he's down in Mississippi or Missouri somewhere. Down, down that way.
Bobby Bones
I've only been to Pittsburgh a couple times. I've toured through there and played a couple theaters there, so. But it's always night one and so I never get to spend any time there. And I did come in the winter once and it's really cold, obviously. What, what is really cool about the city?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
What is really cool about the city? Yeah, I mean, I could give you a. It's, it's be. I think a lot of people discovered during the draft the beauty of our city. And just people are really nice and welcoming to people that are from out of town. We have this Mount Washington. It banks up to one side of the city and you have a complete overlook that overlooks the city. But I mean, if, if I had to say one thing, it's the welcoming people that are in the city. Like, there's nobody that. I don't think there's anybody that visits here that's just like, man, Pittsburgh is full of a bunch of jerks, you know?
Bobby Bones
Like, I think my association with the city is probably what a lot of people feel that haven't spent a lot of time there. Like, it's a very blue collar, hard working city. So that's like the town I grew up in and like the state I grew up in. So everybody kind of looks out for each other. I mean, generally that's what Pittsburgh feels like to me as an outsider. Is that what it feels like there?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, not at all. I mean it's very much blue collar still. Like, it's still, you know, very blue collar. But like the steel mills are gone. Those spaces have been developed for the most part in green spaces. There's a lot of attack here. Everybody has a hub here now because Carnegie Mellon University is here and Pitts here and they all have, you know, big tech headquarters and robotics and self driving cars have been developed here. There's, there's plenty of other things going on than what you would picture Pittsburgh to be. If you're just seeing it as the, you know, everybody sees Pittsburgh as the steel town, as the Steelers now, it's, it's way more beautiful than that. And there's, I mean, there's plenty of neighborhoods to explore in parks and everything.
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the Bobbycast I saw Instagram story of Paul Skeens that you had posted. I just out throwing the ball with kids. For those who don't know, he's a Pirates player, but he's an LSU guy, but is one of the best pitchers top three now in the majors. So is that pretty normal for the athletes in Pittsburgh to just be cool?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I mean, the athletes are really down to earth for the most part just because they're living in our community. You know, like, it's not like there's a. I mean there's nicer parts of town, but they're. It's just laid back. Like when people come here to shoot movies, I think they're blown away by how they can just wander around town freely. Like, I remember Tom Hanks was here shooting the Mr. Rogers movie. Mr. Rogers is Pittsburgh. He's from Pittsburgh, but he was here shooting the Mr. Rogers movie. And I think he was blown away by just being able to go out to a restaurant and enjoy himself and, you know, not have paparazzi or anybody just in his face or bothering him. And I think that's how a lot of the players can move throughout the city and just enjoy themselves. That Paul Skeens thing was pretty cool because that's the little league that my kids played in growing up. So it was literally right at the end of my block where he pulled up and saw the lights in the parking lot and got out and he just started watching practice first. Like it wasn't anything that was sanctioned through the Pirates or anything. He was literally driving by and saw the lights up and saw a bunch of kids, Little league kids playing, pulls over, walks out. Of course they notice it's Paul Skeens and start going crazy. And then he just joins practice and he's watching the kids play and playing catch with him and stuff. He seems like a pretty down to earth dude. Like, he's, he's quiet, but he's very down to earth.
Bobby Bones
How many kids do you have?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Two. Do you.
Bobby Bones
How. How public are you with them?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Pretty public. I mean, I would say when I was younger I was way more public with them and I didn't really worry about it. My daughter's a, going into her sophomore year at West Virginia University, and my son's going to be a senior in high school and probably around maybe 12. Dad. Dad. Talking about you on the radio all the time wasn't the coolest thing. So, you know, you just. You just kind of transition away from it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah,
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
but it's still, you know, you can still talk about it like, it wasn't like anything that I came up, and it's just like, I wouldn't want to embarrass her anyways, you know, like, she's. Some people I. I know in the past, I've heard other hosts talk about. Just like, they've talked about their kids all the way through. And it's just like, that was not going to be my choice, you know, like, people still know who they are. They. They still show up on my Instagram and everything else, and they have their own pages now, and. But talking about, like, personal things that are happening in their lives, hands off. For me, at least.
Bobby Bones
What about Mikey? Does he have kids?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, he has one daughter. She's a. She's going at her sophomore year at Pitt University of Pittsburgh.
Bobby Bones
I'm always curious about people and their kids now because we just had our first baby, and so our daughter is now three and a half months old. And my wife is a very private person. Like, she. If it were up to her, she wouldn't exist to the public at all. She doesn't do much on social media. So, you know, I've had to find a happy medium because for me, I was by myself forever. And so it was all out there because what did I care if it's just about me? You aren't going to hurt me by knowing everything about me. But when I met my wife and she was very private, that was a bit of a foundation shock for me, and it was worth it. But now, you know, she's, you know, kind of decided, and I'm with her, but she's like, I think we'll just kind of chill on, you know, exposing her now. And so that's kind of. Kind of what we've decided to do. Listen, it could change at any point. And, you know, obviously we reserve the right to do that, but people are so weird. We had posted a picture a few days ago, and it was the back. My daughter has this big pink chair that she sits in, and she's looking out the window. And if I don't show anything for my personal life, people beat me up and go, why aren't you showing your personal life? I talk about it a lot, my own. And then If I do and we don't show our baby's face, they're like, why do you just show the back of her head? You just tease it. So there's really no way to satisfy everybody ever. And it's just weird that people feel so territorial about seeing a baby's face. But if I just had a baby out of my butt and it was just my baby, I. I think I probably would have been like, here's the baby, here's everything about it. And I think that would have been probably not the best decision.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I feel like when our kids were young, like young young, like baby age, we talked about all the dumb things of being a dad that we just didn't understand and didn't know what to do. And, you know, we just. I don't know if we played it up. We're really that dumb. Like, it wasn't like us playing it up. So I think we did. We did talk about them a lot. One of the weirdest things I ever done in my life is I think it was like 2008. So my daughter was maybe going on to 2007. Going into 2008, I live streamed my life for an entire year. And back then that wasn't like a normal thing. Like, I walked around with a backpack with a laptop in it and a wireless card. And I had a pirate's hat and a old school, like, giant webcam mounted on top. The pirate's hat. And I would show. I would Show Our Life 24 hours a day, unless it was something really personal. And then I would just pop the sound out and turn the camera away, you know, like, so those younger years, there's, there's. My daughter was on camera a lot. But I think it's all your choice too. The Internet's such a weirder place now than it was then.
Bobby Bones
I agree, especially with AI and anything they can do with any. But you were the original. I show speed without the speed. Yes. How did that work out? When you're streaming, what did you. What, like, what happened? Positively from all of that, Positive.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I'm not sure anything like, looking back on it. I'm not sure there's no big takeaway from it. Like, it was a great ordeal. I had some. I mean, I made some good friends out of it. People that would jump in the chat. And we were still wearing years five or six here then. No, it was probably less than that year four. So, like, I think it helped help bond us to listeners a little more. But, like, I don't. There's no like, oh, I learned this perspective of life through live streaming for a year. And I. And I. It wasn't like now where you can make a ton of money off it or anything. I was just doing it for fun, basically. We got a friend who. Have you ever heard of Ijustine?
Bobby Bones
No.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
She's like a tech reviewer, YouTube. She's been on YouTube forever for a million years. But she started doing it kind of, and then I'm just like, that looks fun. Maybe I should try to do that. So I. I went for it and went for it for a year, and then I'm just like, all right, this is the last day. See everybody later. See you on the radio. You know, there's no perspective. A couple creepy people came along throughout those. Throughout that year, but for the most part, it was just kind of a fun thing. And there was a chat room that people could talk in, and I think a lot of people made lifetime, lifetime friends. But it wasn't like the Internet is now. So it's. It's a very different, you know, world.
Bobby Bones
Do you know my friend icarly?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Do I know icarly?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, my friend iCarly?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I know iCarly. I do not know iCarly, though.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. She does a show, shows her life. It's pretty cool. Who is that? Miranda Cosgrove? Is that who that was? Ike Harley?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah. Yeah. I think. I think Nickelodeon jacked Justine's name and, like, this and all that stuff for that show, believe it or not.
Bobby Bones
I got a few, like, specific questions. I don't know if you. If they hit you up and said, if you have any questions, we'll go back and forth. But. So this is just, like, super inside stuff. So my first question is going to be what? I get asked a lot. What time do you wake up? And also, how much of the show is live? What are your hours?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
4am right around there. I get up. I'm a morning shower guy.
Bobby Bones
Oh, no, no. I'm a morning. Oh, my God. I gotta do as much as I possibly can the minute my eyes wake up. No, no, I don't. No. I'm anxious guy.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I got a shower. Her life doesn't move right. And then I got to get a coffee before I hit the station or things are really sidetracked. But, yeah, we. Then we go in and, you know, it's only me and Mike. We don't have any producers, any staff.
Jacob Goldstein
No way.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
It's been like that for the 20 something odd years we've been on here. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Well, what about phone Calls then who's doing that?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
If we're talking, they're ringing and then hopefully they ring through.
Bobby Bones
So nobody. You have anybody to make sure that weirdos aren't getting on? Just screaming the F word.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We're not taking the live phones. Never.
Bobby Bones
Got it. That's. Listen, that makes a ton of sense. If you don't have a two. Like the only time we do, but we have two delays because we just get people that call and want to just yell the F word.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Oh, we never. Yeah, no, no.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so do you guys go live right at five or six or.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We go six. We're about. About 550.
Bobby Bones
And you don't record any of your first part of your show?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
We'll kick off. There's some of it that's recorded, like we'll record, but it's, you know, it's live. It's live in the moment. So it's not like we just try to get ahead in case there's anything that we need to get done for the day. So if there's commercials or stuff we have to record for promos or whatever else comes along or we also edit all of our best of bits. So any production that goes into the show, any imaging that goes into the show, anything that's on our social medias. We do have a kid now that is the producer for the rock show in our building that helps edit some of our video clips because it's a whole thing. But like we had a producer spot open for a media producer and it got pulled in the last round of yanks here.
Bobby Bones
So it never got filled. It existed for a second open, but the job never got filled.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, it's happened twice to us now in the past four years where we've opened a job, taken resumes like this past time, I think we had over 200 resumes of people that wanted in. And up until that point, it's just been me and Mike and a guy, a guy who's a listener of the show who works for one of the local TV stations here. He would help us edit videos. His name's Steve. Awesome dude. We were hoping that he would be lined up for that job like that we could move him over and work with us. And it just. It got yanked with the. With the budget guys, with the last. With the last round of cuts.
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Hang tight.
Bobby Bones
The Bobby cast will be right back.
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Everybody knew who it was.
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A class of one.
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Bobby Bones
welcome back to the Bobbycast.
Joe
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Bobby Bones
Well, shout out to you guys for doing all that with just you too.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
That is why it's our own stupidity though because I mean, we started, you know, this 20 something years ago and we showed everybody that we can do it all ourselves. And we used to, I mean black back when like the blog era of radio was a huge thing and everybody was tracking how many blog hits you got and you were compared to everybody across the country. We tried to just run it down people's throats and try to be number one every month. So we proved that, that we could do that. And then like we transitioned to podcast and we could do that on our own. And then social media came along real heavy and we could, we proved we can do that on our own. So it's, it's more of us just kind of digging in and working 24 hours a day as opposed to working smarter and Asking for help. And even when we asked for help, it wasn't there because we already proved that we could dig in and do it.
Bobby Bones
I mean, that's why we never got promotional money because I was able to prove we didn't need it. So when I would ask for it, they would go, why do we want to give you any promotional money? You don't need it, You've shown you don't need it. It's a double edged sword because you want to be able to do it yourself and prove that you have tremendous value. But at the same time, if you ever ask for anything, it gets met with no, you've done it yourself the whole time. Why should we put this money here whenever you've shown us that you can do it? So if you need it, then go harder. Yeah, that's a weird place to put yourself. But yeah, you guys doing it two man. I mean, that is significant at such a high level.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
But yeah, I mean, I got a question for you if that's all right.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I ask away.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I guess, you know, every show has to come to an end sometime. But you're such your name, would your name continue on the show, do you think? Like if you were to step, if you were to step away, does your name come with you or does the company own that name? And then because there's been other situations obviously where shows have continued under a certain name with different characters and. No. Have you ever read it? Have you ever thought of that before?
Bobby Bones
This show would not have my, if I'm not on it 1. I wouldn't want it to have to keep my name if it's a selfish thing, unless I'm getting residuals. I mean, do they want to run the show and keep my name and pay me while I'm not there? Sure. But no, in no way would the show have my name if I'm not on it because I plan to be doing other things and I own my name. So.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Right, that's the same thing.
Bobby Bones
And if not, you can do what the Ultimate Warrior did in wrestling because he didn't own the Ultimate Warrior and what he wanted to do was be able to be the Ultimate Warrior in wcw. And so he changed his legal name to Ultimate Warrior because they can't keep you from being Ultimate Warrior if that's your real name. So.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
That's true. That's true.
Bobby Bones
I've often thought about, if I do end up like running for, you know, for election or in politics at all, changing my middle name to Bones legitimately. So on the Ballot, we'll say Bobby Bones Estelle, which is my real last name. Because then people there won't have to be that association of. Wait, I got to remind them my new name. If I put in my real middle name, it's Bones, people will know who that is. So, yeah, no, if I'm out, the name's out. You know, I'm done.
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We're done with this.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I didn't know if another person from your cast would just step into your desk position, and if they did, the show would roll.
Bobby Bones
It definitely wouldn't be with my name, you know, if. You know, I think if anybody was to do it on my show. But again, I don't even know. I don't know what the company would do. But I did get told by our CEO probably five or six years or so ago, because we were talking about. And at the time, I think I was hyper focused on getting markets. Now I'm just hyper focused on growing digitally. Like, hot. Like, that's the thing. Let me grow the podcast as big as I freaking can. You put us in places. That's great, but I want to grow everything digitally. And so he said, you know, we can't put you in every city because if you die, that'll be too hard to bounce back from. And I was like, yeah, it's pretty smart.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
You're like, yeah, it kind of makes sense.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Do you want to run for political office? Is that a thing?
Bobby Bones
I want to. Less and less, as it happens. I just know where I come from, there's not a lot of people that represent those people that come from where I came from and grew up, how I grew up, without a lot of resources. You know, most people that get into politics get into it because their family's in politics or they have some money already, they're able to run. They're able to run for office because they can afford to. So then you get a bunch of rich people or a bunch of nepotism or. But not people who actually come from it. And, like, I come from it, and so. But I've been able to come from it and do really well. And I understand both sides. I understand how rich people are able to, like, loophole like crazy. So it's all this weird stuff that I feel like I've been able to learn, and, you know, I've studied a lot as far as just the basic fundamental, like, how to make a law. I feel like I'm on, you know, Blues Clues. I've been. I had to do all that And I've spent a lot of years doing it. I almost ran for governor a few years ago. We bought a house in Arkansas at the time in central Arkansas, and I lived there plenty, because you have to be there seven years in a row to run for office at any point in your life. And I lived there the first 22 years of my life, and I'm hardcore from Arkansas in every way. But. So I thought about running for governor because one of these big head hunting firms had come to me and said, we want you to run. And so I said, okay. And it was basically just being on the phone asking for money all the time, more than actually having big ideas to fix things.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So it turned me off a bit, but I still think maybe one day. But we still have a house in Arkansas. We live in Fayetteville now as well. But, yeah, like, I love my state. I'd love to help. Like, I understand what it's like to have food insecurity and not good education. And so those are the things I want to help, but those aren't the things to get the clicks. So. Right, that's it. That's. That's the elevator speech. On.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Do you do your show multiple place? Like, do you have a studio in Arkansas as well? Like, do you travel in between?
Bobby Bones
So now. No, but I can get.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I guess not.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I can go into any studio. But also, it's. The technology is so good now. I can flip open a laptop and put a mic and zoom it, and it's really close if we have to do it that way. But we'll travel with a kit sometimes, and sometimes we'll just travel with a few of us with a podcast rig or. Like, I'm going to LA to fill in for Rich Eisen for a few days for his sports show, and I'll just work from his studio because anywhere with the connection works.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Right?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here's my. My second question for you. You had other cities come and say, hey, do you guys want to move shows and move cities? And you guys chose not to. Is that something that you both did? One of you want to do it and one didn't? Like, how was. How'd that conversation go?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, we were pretty. We're pretty in sync with everything, man. Like, I got to be honest with you, if we're being completely honest with me and Mike, like, closest thing I have to a bro. He has a brother, but he's the closest thing. I'm an only child. He's the closest thing I have to A brother, like I, if he really wanted to make that move, I would jump in with him and we would just go balls out in that direction. Like so, I mean, we talked it over. It was never the right situation or the right time or we felt like we had the, the right backing. And then Pittsburgh's just been so good to us too, which is, just makes the decision so much easier.
Bobby Bones
Did you have a show growing up? You listened to that? You look back and like that was your show when you were a kid and young adult.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
No, really, I'm not like a radio nerd, dude. Like I, I went to, like I said, I went to a broadcasting school, but like the broadcasting school taught radio and tv and in my head I'm just like, man, it'd be cool to be like a cameraman@ Like ESPN or something, you know, like it was something along those lines. Like it wasn't like, oh, I've been chasing this radio dream my whole life. Like when I, I did, like I said I did one semester community college on Undecided, we came from a very middle class. Like my dad worked doubles to keep us in that middle class. You know, like it was Detroit right outside in the suburb. It wasn't like run down or anything, but we definitely weren't wealthy by any means. So I don't think I could see past the fence to see that there was this whole career or it was even possible for me to ever do this. I think that's why when I finally got into a radio station in Detroit, I. We didn't leave. Like we were there from 8am with promotions to through the night show, to helping him record production to 3 in the morning to back there at 8am to do promotions and working concerts in between and helping out, talking to everybody and seeing what everybody does. Like I think we both got the opportunity to do this and we're just like this, holy, holy bleep. This is going to be something we can do and they'll pay us eventually. Like, let's dive in and run with it. But now, I mean none of the, none of the markets that have approached us over the years and there have, like I said, there have been some, just nothing felt like the right situation or enough to pull us away from Pittsburgh just because it's been so good to us.
Bobby Bones
We're going to wrap this up pretty soon. Do you have any other questions for me? I don't really know. Is the, you know, I just wanted to talk with you because I like to talk with folks that like, I admire Their work. And I remember you guys doing the night show and I followed. I act like I didn't know when I was asking questions, but I knew a lot of the stuff that you were talking about as far as where you'd been. And you know, I remember you guys with Tic Tac back in the day because I, me being in Arkansas at the time, being in Little Rock and you guys were on over there around the same time and I thought you guys were freaking crazy like you guys were. I was never crazy. I was always. At times I was not risk averse, but I was never insane. And I thought you guys were insane in a beautiful way. So I, I've always kept up with you guys. And I just can't believe I'm that old. Because when you say you've been there 20 years, a little bit of that was going, oh my God, that means I'm 100 as well.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Yeah, we were. I mean, we went to Philly when we were. It was like Q1, Q102. When we were there, it was like TRL was at its peak and like Carson Daly would come hang out and stuff like that. Like, those were still in those years. So we only stayed there, there a year and a half. And like I said 2004, we've been here ever since.
Bobby Bones
Who did the morning show then? Was it Chio?
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Chio, yeah. There's a funny story about geo.
Bobby Bones
I'm ready.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
The. The Philadelphia Inquirer came in to do a 24 hours at the radio station. And like, this is before Webb was really a thing. I mean, it was, but it wasn't like it is now. So you're making the. The Philadelphia Daily or whatever it was. Philadelphia Inquire, Philadelphia Weekly, one of those. But you're making that and they're doing A Day in the life of Q102. And it was supposed to be like really heavy highlighting the morning show. And the guy stayed around all day writing his little notes of everything. And then he got to us and I, I forget what we did that day, but we completely like blew the guy away. Like, we were doing dumb stuff. We had people running in their underwear doing like an und500, I think it was, if I remember right. And they go to shoot the COVID of the. The Philadelphia Weekly magazine. And it was supposed to be Chio in the morning show and his characters on the COVID in the main page. And they wanted the three of us front and center. Like. And then there were three little boxes on the top that was Chio and his Crew. So that went over pretty bad.
Bobby Bones
I can only imagine. I remember right how dramatic that was in the building.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
But we, we were just flying. It was hectic. Like there was no, there was no worry about anything in the world. And I think at that point, like me and Mike, a lot of the times were too young and dumb to know how reckless it really was and like how close we were to the edge of just it being all gone. But at the same time, I feel like we thought we could just bounce to a different market and you know, it was, it was a completely different way radio operated back then.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I think me being naive helped a ton because had I known and like you said, how close I actually was to the sun at times, I probably wouldn't have flown so close to the sun. But me doing that actually created a lot of the success and a lot of the foundation.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Even we came here. Do you gotta hop off? I don't want to keep you for anything. Even when we came here, like we were still trying to push the limit, right? So we were doing the hump day Wednesday bit and I dropped my pants inside of a major retail box store. And like by 3 o', clock, that major retail box store had our whole company on the line willing, willing to pull like all their national advertising because of something stupid that I did in, in a little, you know, store in the middle of Pennsylvania. So I think that was a reality check for us. That was one of them. That was one of them where they set us down. Gene Romano, God bless him, he was very, he gave us a long, long Runway to take off. Like we were off and flying. But he let us, he gave us a long leash. And then there was another time where I had a live chainsaw in our, in our offices trying to chainsaw through our desk. And I've never operated a chainsaw before. And it was a big full on, like lumberjack chainsaw that a listener dropped off for us to use. And I'm hammering at this desk and Gene comes running in from behind. We're live on here. And he's just screaming, shut it off. Shut it off. That was another bad day. So those first couple months of us trying to figure out what the hell we're going to do in mornings. And I. And I don't think all that stuff converted to our morning radio show. Like, I don't think it didn't con. It wasn't. We took our night show and tried to jam it in the morning show. And some of it worked, some of it didn't. We definitely shock the system. But then you had to build the community around it where people actually cared about you and cared about things that you're doing. And I, I think that took years. You know, it wasn't. There was instant overnight success here, but at the same time, we were coming from nothing at zero, less than a one share. So we looked like heroes to start out with. But for us to build the community that we have now or just the people that you know that are in our building that really back our show and we got some pretty good people that still work with us, that are still around through all this, that have been around for years, that we've worked with. So to go back to your point of leaving, I don't, you know, it would take a lot of. It would take a lot. There was a point. Now go ahead.
Bobby Bones
No, I'm ready. I want to hear the point.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I don't even remember what I was going to say.
Bobby Bones
Or did you second guess saying it? Because I do that a lot.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
I did second guess it was something about our last contract negotiation.
Bobby Bones
You know what? I'll respect that for what it is. Hey, I really appreciate the time and you guys continue to, to kill it up there and man, I can't believe that you got a two man operation of your own doing like you've trapped yourself into this by showing just how capable you are. So, yeah, continued success. Good luck and hopefully one day I get to meet you in person. Tell Mike. Yes, hello, I will.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Anytime you want to come up, come see us.
Bobby Bones
Thanks, Bob. See you later, man. Appreciate the time.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
Later, buddy.
Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
Best deal ever since they just added stuffed crust. Any pizza anymore? Toppings now with stuffed crust for 9.99. It's a long term contract with no Release clause only 9.99?
Matt Altimix
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Bobby Bones
I'm heading straight to DOM. Price is higher for some locations.
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Bobby Bones
People are gonna be obsessed.
Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show)
What do you mean?
Bobby Bones
People hate the sound of chewing. Maybe they won't like the crunch.
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Maybe we're saved.
Bobby Bones
Wait a minute. Yellow. Have you been eating them this whole time?
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So tasty. Hands off us. M&M's popped caramel.
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Bobby Bones
Guaranteed Human.
Date: July 8, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Big Bob (Mike and Bob Show, KISS FM Pittsburgh)
Podcast: The Bobbycast – “In The Weeds” Series
This in-depth episode of “In The Weeds” gives listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how Bobby Bones and his team approach segment selection, artist interviews, and the mechanics of running a successful show. Bobby answers fan questions and then has a candid, inside-radio conversation with Big Bob of the “Mike and Bob Show,” covering stories from their early days in radio, philosophies on guest selection, on-air mistakes, and balancing personal life with public-facing media careers.
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“If I'm not interested, it definitely ain't gonna be funny or entertaining or compelling.” — Bobby Bones [02:57]
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“A producer... makes sure the talent can do the things that the talent can do.” — Bobby Bones [03:44]
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“A lot of people got mad at me for that one. But, yeah, I also say a lot of stuff that's wrong.” — Bobby Bones [06:19]
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“There are times where I don't want to have them back in at all... I don't see an artist coming in as a gift to me.” — Bobby Bones [08:23]
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[11:15]
“If I have something that I want to talk about, I have a lot of avenues to talk about it.” — Bobby Bones [11:16]
[13:56]
“Yeah, I have. I have changed a lot... Now, I'm trying to allow it to survive.” — Bobby Bones [14:03]
[15:31]
“I need eight of them, eight and a half of them to be in person because I don't feel like I'm a great Zoom interviewer.” — Bobby Bones [17:30]
[19:25]
[21:43]
“Anytime I buy anything stupid, like an expensive card, I make sure to take that exact amount of money and make sure to do something good with it.” — Bobby Bones [24:08]
[32:32–41:14]
Both Bobby and Bob are “real-life Bobbys,” discuss early careers, and how their shows/brands evolved.
Big Bob reveals he and co-host Mike started as interns in Detroit, transitioned to nights, got fired in infamous fashion (locked out, notified by email), and hustled their way back.
“We were wandering around. Tic Tac saw us... If you were a big guy, you were the stunt guy... I was sent out on the streets to do wacky things, try to get myself arrested every night.” — Big Bob [37:16]
Almost took the Austin job later held by Bobby.
[41:18–48:48]
Moved from Detroit to Philly after being offered a night show; rode the “Jackass years” of radio.
Moved to Pittsburgh for mornings, survived early-morning mayhem (“hump day Wednesday” and live chainsaws in the studio).
Have now been on KISS FM Pittsburgh over 20 years.
“We've survived every cut, we've survived every syndication wave that's come across their company.” — Big Bob [48:36]
[49:31–55:30]
[57:20]
“When I was younger, I was way more public... My daughter's going into her sophomore year at West Virginia University... Talking about personal things, hands off for me.” — Big Bob [57:48]
[63:53]
“It's been like that for 20 something odd years we've been on here.” — Big Bob [64:27]
[70:43]
“That's why we never got promotional money because I was able to prove we didn't need it.” — Bobby Bones [71:42]
[72:24]
“In no way would the show have my name if I'm not on it because I plan to be doing other things and I own my name.” — Bobby Bones [73:06]
[74:50]
Bobby explains why he’s considered running for office (especially governor of Arkansas), but is distressed by how much fundraising dominates modern campaigning.
“I want to. Less and less, as it happens. I just know where I come from, there's not a lot of people that represent those people that come from where I came from and grew up...” — Bobby Bones [74:50]
On picking content:
“If I'm not interested, it definitely ain't gonna be funny or entertaining or compelling.” — Bobby Bones [02:54]
On annoying artists:
“There are times where I don't want to have them back in at all. Because I don't see an artist coming in as a gift to me.” — Bobby Bones [08:23]
On change:
“You're just not the same as you were back when you were in Austin in 2003. You're right. You know who's also not the same from 2003? You.” — Bobby Bones [14:03]
On old-school radio stunts:
“We were the cast of characters, basically... I was sent out on the streets to do wacky things, try to get myself arrested basically every night.” — Big Bob [37:16]
On doing everything in-house:
“We proved we could do that on our own. So it's, it's more of us just kind of digging in and working 24 hours a day as opposed to working smarter and asking for help.” — Big Bob [71:00]
On radio show succession:
“If I'm out, the name's out. You know, I'm done.” — Bobby Bones [73:06]
The episode is lighthearted and conversational, with candid “inside radio” banter. Both hosts display self-deprecating humor and a willingness to peel back the curtain on their own mistakes, growth, and philosophies.
In sum:
This episode is a treasure trove for radio and podcasting fans who want to understand how top personalities manage the unique pressures, trade-offs, and evolution of operating a daily show, with stories of early radio chaos, lessons learned, changing media, and how the demands of real life and ethics shape both the process and output.