AMY: Apparently, This Ralph Lauren Rule Will Change How You Get Dressed

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show

AMY: Apparently, This Ralph Lauren Rule Will Change How You Get Dressed

Release Date: November 2, 2025
Featured Hosts: Amy & Kat

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Main Theme

This lively episode of "The Bobby Bones Show" (specifically, the "Feeling Things with Amy and Kat" segment) explores a mix of personal growth, relationships, self-care, and style insights. The centerpiece is a deep dive into the “Ralph Lauren Rule” for styling outfits—specifically, the power of the "Rule of Three" in building a polished look. The episode is full of relatable, warm-hearted banter, stories from recent trips, hair and fashion experiments, and candid reflections on blended family life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Feelings of the Day: Excitement & Personal Updates

• Kat expresses excitement over the launch of new "Feeling Things" merchandise, emphasizing the anticipation and behind-the-scenes work. (04:15)
  • “Every piece, the hat, the shirt and the sweat set all have a different vibe. So hopefully there's something for every type of style.” — Amy [04:24]
• Amy & Kat discuss the ease the new merch brings for potential Christmas shopping, especially for husbands of fans. [05:01]

2. The Blowout Experience & Haircare Deep Dive

• Kat recounts her first blowout, describing the pampering and the transformation in her hair. She admits preconceived notions:
  • “I thought I would hate it. I thought I would look like I was from the 80s, like just too much hair.” — Kat [06:25]
• The benefits, potential hair damage from heat tools, and maintaining healthy hair are discussed, including friendly warnings from Amy about breakage with too much heat. [08:31–09:55]
• The conversation moves into road trip stories and relationship dynamics, notably Amy’s recent trip with her boyfriend and his kids—a test in blending families and new experiences. [12:09–14:58]

3. Navigating Blended Family Dynamics

• Amy voices conflicted emotions about sharing family photos on social media without her own kids present, candidly describing a sense of “cheating” on her children and working through this new territory.
  • “It felt weird...whenever I was posting the pic later, I felt like I was cheating on my kids, which I don't. I had not had that feeling before.” — Amy [28:07]
• Kat and Amy discuss how parental feelings evolve as children grow older and how normalization comes with experience. [29:39]
• A meaningful moment: Amy is “snapped” (included on Snapchat) by her boyfriend’s daughter, symbolizing acceptance and progress in their relationship. [30:51]
  • “I got snapped. And I felt like that was a big deal. That's a big deal. Like, it's just information. And it made me smile inside.” — Amy [31:01]

4. College Traditions, Secret Societies & The Whisper Wall

• The conversation takes a fun detour into UVA traditions—from the acoustics of the Whisper Wall to secret societies like the mysterious Seven Society.
  • "There's only seven members and nobody knows who they are. You find out when they die." — Amy [23:02]
• Musings about cult-like vibes, the influence of tradition, and humorous speculation about being recruited into secret societies. [24:34–26:39]

5. Amy’s Social & Sporting Life “Checklists”

• Amy approaches new phases of her relationship as a series of friendly “tests”—from road trips to attending football games and meeting friends.
  • “This was my test. Like, I wanted to test out, you know, check. Road trip. Check.” — Amy [15:48]
• The importance of embracing new experiences wholeheartedly, even if you’re not inherently a sports fan.
  • “I would celebrate when they celebrated. I would do all the things...I was just. Really? Yes, yes. I would get excited because they would get pumped.” — Amy [33:52]

6. The Ralph Lauren Rule of Three: Upping Your Style Game

• Kat introduces the “Ralph Lauren Rule of Three”: Always wear three pieces (e.g., pants, shirt, and sweater or dress, belt, and scarf) for a more polished, intentionally styled look. [41:41]
  • “She said when she worked at Ralph Lauren, they had to always wear three pieces... And it helps your look look more polished.” — Kat [41:41]
• Discussion around style aesthetics, “looking expensive,” and the viral “clean girl” look (minimalist, dewy, chic).
• Playful confusion over what counts as an accessory or item in the Rule of Three, and a comic tangent about the pronunciation of words like “accessory” and “poem.” [44:45–45:56]

7. Fashion & Hair Experimentation: Trying Clip-in Bangs

• Amy shares her latest Amazon purchase: clip-in bangs, inspired by Nicole Kidman. They try them on, giggle over the result, and discuss experimenting with styles before making big changes. [50:05–54:31]
  • “It's help filling that need to figure it out. Like, I don't have to cut my bangs to see.” — Amy [52:49]
• Advice to others: try clip-ins to scratch the “bangs itch” without commitment. [54:50]

8. Recs, Newsletter, and Community Vibe

• The hosts plug their newsletter, sharing that it will feature everything from their favorite socks to transformative Q-tips to merch updates. [54:55]
• End with reminders about upcoming merch launches and playful engagement with fans about guessing hat slogans. [55:39–56:23]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On parenting and feelings:
  “Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop and feel things.” — Amy [02:35]
• On relationship evolution:
  “This time a year ago, I was terrified of how it was gonna...how our relationship would unfold. So that was cool.” — Amy [31:21]
• On style confidence:
  “That's the difference between wearing and styling.” — Kat [41:38]
• On trying new trends carefully:
  “Anytime I get the urge to have bangs, I just put in my hair system, and then I'll be like, oh, yeah, I don't need to cut my bangs anymore.” — Amy [54:13]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Show & Feeling of the Day Intro: [02:44–03:56]
• Merchandise Launch & Style Chat: [03:56–05:01]
• Blowout Adventures & Hair Health: [05:21–09:55]
• Blended Family & Social Media: [12:09–14:58]; [28:07–31:35]
• College Traditions & Secret Societies: [22:57–26:39]
• Ralph Lauren Rule of Three: [41:41–44:45]
• Clip-In Bangs Experiment: [50:05–54:31]
• Sign-Off & Newsletter: [55:11–56:23]

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Tone & Style

The episode is heartfelt, genuine, upbeat, and playful. Amy and Kat riff off each other naturally, alternating between laughter, vulnerability, and practical advice, always validating listeners’ emotions and bringing a sense of community. The language is informal, funny, sometimes self-deprecating, and deeply relatable.

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Conclusion

This episode is perfect for listeners seeking laughter, friendly advice, and fashion wisdom. Whether you’re navigating a blended family, contemplating a hair change, or trying to polish your wardrobe, it’s packed with personal insights and actionable takeaways—especially the infectious fun of the Rule of Three. The hosts remind listeners: Try new things, celebrate your unique journey, and don’t forget to accessorize—however you pronounce it!

Transcript

[Kat]

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[Amy]

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[Amy]

If you ever have feelings and you.

[Kat]

Just want some, maybe a cat got you covered like a num brother. Ladies and fellas, we just follow in.

[Amy]

The spirit where it tell from the.

[Kat]

Real stuff to the Chill stuff and the in between.

[Amy]

Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop and feel things.

[Kat]

This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.

[Amy]

Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.

[Kat]

And I'm Kat.

[Amy]

And Kat's gonna kick us off with the feeling of the day. We both have them today. Lots of feelings flowing.

[Kat]

So I'm adding an extra feeling. We'll get to my real feeling. Well, they're both real feelings, but my extra feeling is excited.

[Amy]

This is where we validate for everybody all your feelings. Well, do we use the word real? Because your feelings are real. But also they're all valid.

[Kat]

They're not always justified.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And feelings do not justify hurtful behavior.

[Amy]

Amen.

[Kat]

Okay. Anyway, I'm feeling excited.

[Amy]

Are you going to describe some hurbal behavior that you did?

[Kat]

No. I'm feeling excited because something big is happening.

[Amy]

Yes. So make sure to follow us on socials. I feel like that's the easy way. And then if you're not on socials, then in the show notes, we will have a link where you can find everything. But I don't know that it'll be up yet. Well, the show's coming out or this episode's coming out on Tuesday.

[Kat]

The link, you can sign up for the newsletter that will let you know exactly when everything goes live.

[Amy]

Boom. And it'll show up in your email inbox. And then that makes it easy peasy.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So we have a sweat set.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I'm very excited about the sweat set. Kat does have on the T shirt. That's the one we've been wearing. Feeling for a while. We've gone through a lot of other options of things. And then we have a hat with something that we've been saying a lot. So we hope that you all enjoy it because it'll sort of be our little inside secret.

[Kat]

Ooh. You guys should message us and say what you think the hat's gonna say. Yeah. It's not what you think. It's not the same as what I'm thinking.

[Amy]

It's not the same as the shirt. No. Every piece, the hat, the shirt and the sweat set all have a different vibe. So hopefully there's something for every type of style.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Or whatever you're into. Okay. That's a good feeling. I didn't know where you're going with that, but I. I love that you get in there.

[Kat]

It's exciting.

[Amy]

Yes, of course it's exciting. We're working on it for months. And it's good timing too, because maybe you're starting to shop for gifts. And, guys, I know we have some husbands that are listening so they can better understand their wives, because their wives listen too. So now, bam. Easy Christmas gift.

[Kat]

Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Now my other feeling. I'm excited to share this feeling too, because Cryo Cat just asked about my hair before we started recording, and I had already planned to say this, so she asked if I got my hair cut. Does it look I got my haircut?

[Amy]

Like, a little layer, maybe.

[Kat]

Okay, guys, I got my first blowout on Saturday. Have you gotten a blowout? You're looking at me like, duh.

[Amy]

No, I don't think that everyone has experienced a blowout. I just didn't know that's where you were going with what happened. Like, so you didn't cut your hair? It's just the magic of a blowout.

[Kat]

Yes. So I got a blowout on Saturday because my mom has a membership somewhere and she had extra credits.

[Amy]

There's a blowout membership.

[Kat]

My mom wants to get her hair done. So she hadn't used all her credits because I guess she wasn't getting her hair blown out in the summer, because she would always be, like, going to the pool or the lake, I guess. So she asked if me, my sister, wanted to get her hair blown out. I never would have just gone and gotten a blowout. That's just. I'm like, I can grow my hair. And I wanted the real experience because they're. They can do whatever you want. I guess they could just curl it. They can wave it. I said, I want a real blowout. She did, like, the br. You know, the brush and then the rollers. It was fun. I felt pampered, and I felt like I could have fallen asleep in that chair. But I also thought I would hate it. I thought I would look like I.

[Amy]

Was from the 80s, like, just too much hair.

[Kat]

Yeah. Like, I didn't take a picture after. It was.

[Amy]

The taller the hair, the closer to Jesus.

[Kat]

It was beautiful.

[Amy]

Oh, you loved it.

[Kat]

Oh, I loved it.

[Amy]

It still looks great today, even days later.

[Kat]

Well, so I got inspired.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh. I know what you're gonna say. Did you buy, like, a blowout kit to do your own? And you're gonna set up with your nail salon in your kitchen? Now, this is one thing I will take you up on. You can blow dry my hair. I will take a blowout.

[Kat]

I'm feeling seen and known right now. So I took a baby step, because I know what I can do is, like, I can get the whole Shebang going too soon. So I baby stepped it. I didn't get, like, the air wrap. That's like $600. I just got a heated brush, like a curling iron, but it's a brush.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

You know, And I got some kind of spray. They sprayed so many things in my hair that I was like, how do I make it look like this? I need all those products, but I don't want to buy them all. So I got some spray. I got a blowout brush like the iron. So today I didn't wash my hair. I just used the brush to redo it, and it looks not as good now. It looked really good this morning, so I have to perfect how to keep it looking that way. But have you watched Nobody wants this?

[Amy]

Is that with Crystal?

[Kat]

You haven't watched this?

[Amy]

Is it with Kristen Bell? Yeah.

[Kat]

Yes. I didn't even answer. No.

[Amy]

I was trying to make sure that it was the right show. With Adam Brody and Kristen Bell? Yes. Yeah.

[Kat]

The sister. I don't know the actress's name, but the sister's name is Morgan. She has the best hair, and that's my goal. So I want my hair to look like Morgan from Nobody wants this. And I rewatched that whole season this weekend. The second season's coming out on Thursday. Oh, yeah.

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[Kat]

So once I get good at this, I'll do your hair.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

That is relaxing, right? Okay. All right, guys. That's my next business.

[Amy]

Okay. Can't wait for the blowout.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You have to be careful with those heated. Why brush tool thingies, though. I just want to make sure it doesn't, like, break your hair. When I was getting too many blowouts, at one point, my hair person was like, why is your hair breaking? What's going on? And they sometimes will use just when you go or when you're using it. Just don't keep it on the highest, hottest setting. But if they're trying to turn over and get as many people in as possible, the higher the heat, the quicker they can move. And so you just have to request medium heat just so that it's not.

[Kat]

I had it on 3 90.

[Amy]

Damaging. I don't know that 390 is bad. I feel like it's. When you get to 400, 410, it goes to 4:10. Okay. I would back it down just so that you don't end up with a lot of breakage. And it was a thing because I was going to get. I guess it was probably like your mom. I didn't have a membership, but I justified It. Because I would take my computer and I would work the entire time, and I was like, I'm multitasking, getting my hair washed. I'm working.

[Kat]

How often were you doing it?

[Amy]

I mean, sometimes once a week.

[Kat]

I wish I could do this once a week.

[Amy]

And then I realized, okay. How much I was spending. To me, I definitely was trying to justify it while I. Because I was working, like I said. But the math wasn't really mathing if I really took a look at it. So I stopped. But also, the hair was very.

[Kat]

Okay, well, maybe I'll just do this on special occasions. But I curl my hair every day.

[Amy]

I know. I'm just making sure. With your tools. Like, keep it. I don't know. It's just a little warning because I had tons and tons of, like, short baby hairs, and I didn't know that that was the reason. And then when I cut back on them, my hair got better.

[Kat]

Okay, so this is our pact. You're gonna tell me in a nice, non siv way if my hair starts to look broken. Okay. And damaged.

[Amy]

I shall.

[Kat]

Everybody in this room, I shall tell you because I don't want to hurt my. I feel like I have healthy hair right now.

[Amy]

Yeah. You said you'd been sib to Patrick lately.

[Kat]

Yeah, this weekend. I noticed multiple times. It's when he will ask. I'll have just said something, and he'll ask, like, what I just said, and I'm like, oh, my God, I just said this. And maybe it's because I feel like he's not painted. Yeah, I know. I know. I just figured out in my head, it's football. It's football. It's football season. We're in the middle of it. It's Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Is it Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday?

[Amy]

Yeah. There's lots of football.

[Kat]

It's not Tuesday.

[Amy]

I think Tuesday night Football.

[Kat]

It's not working for me. That's probably what it is. Because we were out. I know. This weekend we were out going to different stores, and he was being such a trooper. We were, like, shopping and stuff for my hot brush, and he's glued to his phone the whole time. And so he's not listening to what I'm. The story I'm telling myself. He's not listening to me because he's watching football. And then I snap at him, and then he's like, okay, so sweet back. Like, he doesn't snap back at me. And if I talk to him like that or if he talked to me like that, I would be double siv. All over him.

[Amy]

Yeah, it'd be a problem. Well, I think we both have ended up with guys that are just way more laid back than we are. Like we have. You know, you said sib earlier, which if anybody is new, it's sorry Apache, because we don't mean to be. Yeah, but just sometimes we can be. And I purposefully chose to go on an eight hour road trip with my boyfriend and his kids. So I met them in Virginia a couple weeks ago. They were there for fall break and we were going to a Virginia football game. They drove up because they were there for several days. I was there for less than 48 hours. So I flew in after work on Friday and then they were driving back on that Sunday and I thought, well, I'm not going to book a round trip. I'm just going to book a one way and then I'm going to ride in the car with y' all because I want to see what it's like eight hours in the car with these people.

[Kat]

Was anybody like, I'll take Amy's plane ticket?

[Amy]

No, they. No, I mean they, they were, they were good road trippers. And I mean, I think that was what was so appealing. Like, I mean there was some bickering because they're siblings a little bit, but everybody handled it well. And there it wasn't drama. Like it was eight hours in the car and with bathroom breaks and food breaks, like everything was smooth.

[Kat]

1. What time did you get up and leave?

[Amy]

We left at 8am because everybody wanted to get back at a reasonable time.

[Kat]

That's kind of a late start.

[Amy]

8Am I grew up. We had been out. We'd been out till like one in the morning.

[Kat]

You wild kids.

[Amy]

It was a night game.

[Kat]

You guys are crazy. What kind of pit stops did you make?

[Amy]

Just bathroom and food. We stopped for bagels on our way out of town at Bobo's Bagels, which is apparently it's notoriously famous in Charlottesville.

[Kat]

Do you want to rate it?

[Amy]

Oh, 10 out of 10. There's so good.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Like I would compare it to Leon's bagels out of New York. The one I brought you that one.

[Kat]

Time you literally brought from New York. Dropped it off at my office in Tennessee. Yeah.

[Amy]

The next amazing.

[Kat]

That's one of the best gifts.

[Amy]

And then whenever I posted about that Bobo's that I was eating on the way back, you were like, did you bring me a bagel? And then I felt bad cuz I did think about it.

[Kat]

I was just kidding.

[Amy]

I thought I should get Cat 1, but we divided and conquered. Cuz some people went and picked up the bagels while Alex and I picked up like these juice things and some coffee at the place next door. And then we all hopped in the car. Like yeah, divided, conquered, got the stuff, hopped in the car and then we were head out of town and we did. It was one gas stop, two bathrooms. And then Chipotle for lunch.

[Kat]

Interesting.

[Amy]

That's it. And then we had some snacks, but interesting.

[Kat]

Road trip lunch, Chipotle.

[Amy]

There wasn't very many other options. It was unanimous.

[Kat]

Maybe it's not. Maybe it's not that interesting.

[Amy]

What would you choose? It was a Sunday, so Chick Fil A is not open. Chick Fil A.

[Kat]

But then also. Which is such a bummer because Sunday's such a travel day.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But we grew up stopping. But I guess you had breakfast already. We always stopped at Cracker Barrel every road trip.

[Amy]

That sounds like miserable because you've, you've just.

[Kat]

It's my child.

[Amy]

No, Cracker Barrel is amazing. But you're trying to get out on the road and within the first part of your trip you're already stopping for a long sit down breakfast.

[Kat]

No, because my dad would make us leave at like 6am if not before.

[Amy]

Oh, okay.

[Kat]

We were out early.

[Amy]

So it was a deserved break.

[Kat]

Yeah, it would be like three hours later. And I loved Cracker Barrel because then you got to get a prize. Got your meal.

[Amy]

They would store get you something. Like your parents would get you a little treat.

[Kat]

Like you know the store.

[Amy]

Yeah, I know the country store. Yeah.

[Kat]

We would all get like a piece of candy or something. I would always get those dots that were on the paper.

[Amy]

But you calling, you're calling it a prize. I guess I just went clarification. Like your parents would get you a treat or you would like you would have to play a game and then you could.

[Kat]

If you won the little game on the table, then you got to know if they're in a good mood. Then you got to get something from the store. Probably to make us be quiet because there was four kids in the back of a car. But I would get those, you know those sugar dots that are on the.

[Amy]

Yes. On the paper.

[Kat]

Which are disgusting. I always got those memories.

[Amy]

Memories.

[Kat]

Okay. Anyway, I want to hear about your.

[Amy]

Well, and I'm thinking like, okay, this was my test. Like I wanted to test out, you know, check. Road trip. Check. You know, you know, you're being things like we've never. Like we've been together for a year. We've never gone to the movies. So I don't know what that's like. What if going to the movies with him is a horrible experience? Now, I need to check that box, but I've done an eight hour road trip and I've done a football game. And check like I've gone back to his college, Metallica's college friends, good reviews. Check like reviews on Alex's friends. Reputation, personality. They all love him. They think he's great, stand up, quality guy. Has been for however many years.

[Kat]

I can't. I want to come back to this, but my brain is stuck on movies. We have never been to the movie theater.

[Amy]

No. I think it's because, well, five kids between the two of us and like, weekends are just. We're tired. If we want to watch a movie, we rent it or watch a show or something and lay on the couch instead of going to the movies. Or there's like sports and events.

[Kat]

Are you gonna have to go to the movies before you get married? You can't marry somebody you've never been to the movie theater. That's crazy.

[Amy]

I mean, we're not getting married yet, but.

[Kat]

Yes, but that has to be okay.

[Amy]

I need to make like a check.

[Kat]

Make sure you're not gonna jump the gun and not.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay. So back to the trip. You met his friends. I did see that. You spilled something on his friends.

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

Would you like to.

[Amy]

So. And that I only had the video part of it because that was a live photo. So, like when you play the live and it loops, you see the drink flying out of my hand.

[Kat]

I watched it like 10 times.

[Amy]

How did it happen? I've decided to either cross my leg or uncross my leg. I can't tell you if to look at it again, but. And then my drink just flew out of my hand.

[Kat]

Looks like you, like, threw.

[Amy]

I know. It, like, just flew like I couldn't even explain it. And yes, there's a husband and wife sitting in front of us that Alex has known since college. We were using their tickets. We were sitting with them. I had just met her and the husband, but the drink only spilled on the wife just hours before first time meeting. And my drink went all over her denim dress, but it looked like a dark liquid. It wasn't.

[Kat]

No. Okay.

[Amy]

No. It was a high noon.

[Kat]

Oh. I thought it was like a Coke. Okay. It's a little better. But she was wearing.

[Amy]

She had dark denim, so I think we would have been fine. But I was mortified.

[Kat]

Was it cold? Yeah, like the weather.

[Amy]

It wasn't as cold as I thought it was gonna be so. No, I think we were fine.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Maybe she found it refreshing.

[Kat]

She's like, sticky.

[Amy]

Yum. Like, but they. Everybody was like, what just happened? I was like, I don't know, and I am so sorry. And then I like, no more high noons for me. But even though it wasn't drink, like alcohol, like, I hadn't had too much.

[Kat]

Yeah, she was kind. Okay.

[Amy]

No sib.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Totally kind. And, oh, Alex, your girlfriend's so funny. Like, oh, yay.

[Kat]

That's a good story. Cuz, what if you guys become, like, good friends now and that's like a story of how you met?

[Amy]

Yeah, I mean, I think we just will be, because that's some of the people he's closest to. So I really enjoyed spending time with them. And, you know, I was testing her, and she passed.

[Kat]

She doesn't know it. Wait, also, you posted about that wall.

[Amy]

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[Kat]

That.

[Amy]

That blew my mind.

[Kat]

It was blowing my mind. And I couldn't even.

[Amy]

And then Alex is telling me about all these secret societies at uva and I did. I thought he was messing with me. And then I Google that after I Google Whisper Wall. And sure enough, there are these secret societies. One in particular I found really intriguing called the Sevens and the Seven Society. There's only seven members and nobody knows who they are. You find out when they die. So, like, Alex could be a seven. He's not.

[Kat]

How do you know? Because you don't know that.

[Amy]

I was reading through some of the. The way it would play out. I don't think he's a seven. But you can at a funeral. A black thing. A thing. I don't know how to say this because I don't know if they spray paint them black because they're not black magnolias, you know, but maybe they paint magnolias black and they're in the shape of a seven. And it's at the gravesite, like someone.

[Kat]

Nobody says anything about it, they just put it.

[Amy]

Well, no, that's when people there. That's when family learns, oh, my gosh, Uncle Bob was a seven.

[Kat]

So then nobody can become a new member until somebody dies.

[Amy]

I guess so. Because there's only seven at a time. And they make these crazy donations to the university that are like $777,000 and 77 cents.

[Kat]

So you have to be really wealthy to be a 7? Probably. I don't know that I would want to be in a secret society with only seven people.

[Amy]

I don't know.

[Kat]

We'll never know.

[Amy]

I don't know their age. Someone DM'd me, a listener actually DM'd me after I posted about the seven. She was like, yeah, I went to a funeral once where someone was a seven. And we found out at the funeral. But like, no sevens can show up and be like, oh, they were a seven, because then they would be outing themselves. So the flower just shows up. That's a seven.

[Kat]

But who brings the flower?

[Amy]

You probably order it from a flower shop. Anonymously, of course.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And if you want to communicate with the Sevens, you like drop off a piece of paper or some statue on.

[Kat]

Campus to communicate them.

[Amy]

I don't know.

[Kat]

What, what does that have to do.

[Amy]

With societies at a lot of campuses? Not mine, which at uva, they don't call it a campus, they call it the grounds. So on the grounds.

[Kat]

This is very prestigious.

[Amy]

Thomas Jefferson founded it. Edgar Allan Poe went there I saw his bedroom. They have it preserved. Yeah, he had. He had a lot of raven decor in his room. I was really his furniture.

[Kat]

Yeah. It was cute.

[Amy]

I was like, this is bad. I like it.

[Kat]

Wait, so the Sevens are part of.

[Amy]

The school, like the students are society. That is at uva. There might be Sevens at other universities, but.

[Kat]

Oh, and there's seven at each university.

[Amy]

I don't know if. If that university has a seven, they may have the eights.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

There's the Imps and the Z's.

[Kat]

This is what's getting in the way is I thought this would be, like, students who are in the secret society.

[Amy]

They might be. I don't know if they're alumni, but.

[Kat]

It could be, like, one young student. Yep. And then, like, six old guys. Okay.

[Amy]

And it's only four women. No.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

There can be women.

[Kat]

Oh, I like the Sevens.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Okay. So.

[Amy]

And the Imps, Like, I was reading about them and they, like, dress up with and put horns on. They. The imps freaked me out, quite honestly, when I was reading about them. But then it made me think about Illuminati and other secret societies that are out there, just worldwide. Like, not exclusive to a campus.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Or a university. And just these traditions that have been around, like, hundreds of years of these people meeting with capes and horns and.

[Kat]

Being like, hey, it feels very cultish.

[Amy]

But apparently they do good. At least the Sevens, they have lots of.

[Kat]

That's what they want you.

[Amy]

Donations. But they probably have a lot of money and connections.

[Kat]

I wonder if you can say no. I don't know. Or if it's like, we're gonna kill you if you don't accept this.

[Amy]

Oh, that would be bad.

[Kat]

I don't know. Some secret societies, I think are bad. Like, cults are bad.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Well, I guess I shouldn't say all cults. I don't know.

[Amy]

I don't know. Nobody's ever asked me to be in a secret society, so.

[Kat]

Well, if you couldn't, that's.

[Amy]

Yet.

[Kat]

Well, no, no.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

You could be bluffing. If you were asked to be in secret society, you couldn't tell us.

[Amy]

Yeah. And I just come on here and act like I'm just now learning. You're probably the first time. Yeah. Maybe a 7. Look what I learned about 7 from Texas a and M. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know if we had secret societies there, but maybe.

[Kat]

What were you gonna say about cheating?

[Amy]

Oh, okay. Well. So this was my feeling, my feeling of the day. Sort of like conflicted. So I've Taken a trip with my boyfriend's family before, but my kids were there as well. So this is the first time we're all on a trip and having fun and doing something. And my kids are with their dad, so they're not with me. And we all took a pic, and it's like, me, Alex, and the kids, and it's like, oh, hey. And it felt weird. Like, whenever I was posting the pic later, I felt like I was cheating on my kids, which I don't. I had not had that feeling before. So this is new because we've hung out in town, of course, but something about being out of town on a trip, doing something, and I don't know if other people that are dating and you've got kids or they've got kids, and then this whole blending of families, that was just a new feeling that I hadn't had before where I felt weird even posting a family pic without.

[Kat]

Part of your family.

[Amy]

Yes. Like, something in me felt like I needed to explain. Like, I still love my kids, but they're just not here. So I didn't end up explaining anything because I know how I feel. But also, I thought, if my kids see this, I don't want them to think, oh, look at mom with them, you know, And I missed them and I wanted to be there. So it felt like this weird and the best way for me to describe it. And that's why I mentioned that word, cheating to you. And then you were like, wait, about what? And you're like, save it for the podcast. So I felt like I was cheating on my kids.

[Kat]

That sounds hard.

[Amy]

I'm not trying to be dramatic about it. I'm not as torn up about it as maybe it seems, but I am conflicted.

[Kat]

Well, it just feels like something is missing.

[Amy]

They were missing. I wanted them there. But the thing is, they're not always going to be there. The reality is, I only have them 50% of the time. And the reality is everybody is getting older and they have their own stuff going on. So even if I did have them, they may not be at a certain event that the rest of us are at, and they may just not be there. And the more we do that, the more we'll get used to it. I'm sure we'll be fine. This just happened to be the first time, and that was the feeling that I had, and I had to really pay attention to it. And then I had to pay attention of, like, why I felt this desire to explain it and who was that for? And then I realized like, oh, I don't need to explain anything. And. And also, if my kids ask anything, I'll say the same thing to them. Like, this is another part of my life. But we're all. We're all in this together.

[Kat]

I was gonna say, even if you had them 100% of the time, maybe they didn't want to go to that kind of thing.

[Amy]

Exactly.

[Kat]

They're like, I don't care about UVA and the Imps.

[Amy]

And they would. Chose to stay back and go with friends.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Somewhere else.

[Kat]

Which when you get older, like. Yeah. You'd rather do stuff with your friends and go to, like, a Rand. I mean, depending.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But there's plenty of times where I'm like, mom, can I do fall break with so and so?

[Amy]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It ended up, like, worked through it. I feel fine. But that until it. We have more experiences with it, I'll likely feel just a little conflicted when I've got it going on. But speaking of the social posts, I also feel happy because I know social media is not everything, but for kids, Snapchat is a really big thing. And my boyfriend's daughter, who's 17 and their mom, passed away several years ago from cancer. So she was the oldest and closest to her mom. I mean, they were all close to her, but, you know, she was the oldest. So her relationship and her age when it happened is a little different than, like, the youngest, per se. So it's been more of a challenge. And she posted me on her Snapchat.

[Kat]

I saw. She posted you on her Instagram.

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

Right.

[Amy]

But I feel like Snapchat's a big deal.

[Kat]

Snapchat.

[Amy]

I got snapped.

[Kat]

How did you know? Did she say, like I said.

[Amy]

Somebody told me. Another person that saw it told me later.

[Kat]

Were they like, Amy, you got.

[Amy]

I was like, I need the Snapchat.

[Kat]

Is Snapchat like a story? Right? Okay.

[Amy]

So I got snapped. And I felt like that was a big deal. That's a big deal. Like, it's just information. And it made me smile inside. I even texted Alex about it, and he was like, does that make you happy? And I was like, yes, it does. Yeah. So I tried to, like, spend time and savor that and soak it up and be like, oh, wow. Because this time a year ago, I was terrified of how it was gonna. How our relationship would unfold. So that was cool.

[Kat]

So you had a big weekend, you learned a lot, you experienced a lot, and I feel like you grew. Like that trip was like a Big growth point for your relationship in general.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And you had fun also. I read your story where you said, like, waho.

[Amy]

But I don't know, Hudson, his daughter typed that for me.

[Kat]

I thought you were just typing, like, woohoo.

[Amy]

No, that's what they say at uva.

[Kat]

All these people commenting on your post that. And I was like, that must be, like, their battle cry or something. But I thought you were just being, like, silly and fun and, like, typing, like, a fun way to say woohoo. Did you learn any cheers?

[Amy]

We sang the song whenever they would cheer. Like, they sway back and forth. We do that at Texas A. M. Do you do that? Is that, like, at every college thing?

[Kat]

Well, I went to one, maybe two football games my whole college, college career. So I don't know what they do there.

[Amy]

Okay, well, at A. M. We cross legs and grab arms and, like, sway back and forth and sing our song. And at uva, they kind of do the same thing. Different song, two different song. Yeah, but. So I would sway back and forth. My thing was, I want to go all in. So I had never been before. I don't really care much about football. I went to a M. I'm what they call a 2 percenter. I mean, I love the Aggies, and I love A M, but I care about 2% because a lot of Aggies are very, very, very hardcore.

[Kat]

They still wear their rings.

[Amy]

Yeah, I would wear my ring, but it got stolen.

[Kat]

Oh, right.

[Amy]

Sorry.

[Kat]

I didn't mean to bring it up.

[Amy]

I loved my Aggie ring. I'm still. I haven't worked hard to place that because I did work really hard to get that ring, and I haven't replaced it because I still have hope that one day somebody's gonna call me and be like, are you a dot? E dot, like my initials, class of 03? And I'd be like, that's me. Because my initials are engraved on the inside.

[Kat]

Always have hope.

[Amy]

I have hope. So I decided to go all in. Like, I'm going to just embrace everything. We tailgated, we went to the game. I tried to pay attention. I cheered. And I think that I had a really good experience because I went all in.

[Kat]

Okay. That's why you had the good experience?

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I'm like, I'm an act. Like, I really care about this school, and I go here. And I did. And it was so fun because, like, I don't really care when they had the ball. Like, I don't care. I'm not like, oh, my gosh, we have the Ball. We're gonna win.

[Kat]

So what do you do?

[Amy]

I would celebrate when they celebrated. I would do all the things like, I was just. Really? Yes, yes. I would get excited because they would get pumped.

[Kat]

Okay, we've talked about this. Like, I think we talked about this. As annoying as sometimes it is how much Patrick loves football, it is cute to see somebody so excited when he's watching, like, a UT game. It is endearing to watch them be so excited about something. So did you have a little bit of that with Alex?

[Amy]

Yes, I have some cute pictures of him in videos that I didn't. Smiling ear. He's, like, freaking out and cheering because they. It was a close game and I thought we were gonna lose.

[Kat]

I thought they did lose.

[Amy]

They were about two. And then we won because of a safety, which is to only two points. They played Washington State University.

[Kat]

You know it all. Okay, so you learned a lot. Yeah.

[Amy]

UT lost Tennessee.

[Kat]

Yeah. Yes. Sorry.

[Amy]

Yeah, there's two. No ut, Austin or Texas. I know. With an A. Yeah. Well, anyway, this was a couple weeks ago, so people were like, cool. Hey, Sports Update.

[Kat]

We love sports. It's a sports podcast. And we know. We know. What we can help you do is we can help you have a good time at a sporting event when you don't care about the sport.

[Amy]

Yes. Just get outfit. Like, I was. I. I went to the bookstore.

[Kat]

Oh, yeah, because you threw out your original outfit.

[Amy]

Yeah, I didn't end up wearing the shirt that I was gonna wear, and I got a UVA hat, and I got an orange and blue and white scarf, and I tied around my clear bag, you know, to, like a little. To accessorize it a little bit. And then I got a Virginia sweatshirt and tied it around my shoulders.

[Kat]

Oh, okay. Speaking of, I was watching some Tick Tocks and you always do look really cute when you have a. Sometimes you do the little sweater thing. So I saw some girl post that if you do two of three of these things, you will look expensive. I don't buy it. It's hair, makeup, outfit. Well, I have my hair and makeup done. I have my makeup half done. I don't think I look expensive, so whatever.

[Amy]

What do you mean by look expensive? Like chic?

[Kat]

Yeah, it was like her, like, look like you are. She was like, if this is how you. This is the what you do. You look rich if you do two out of look. But I'm like, that's just getting.

[Amy]

I guess I've just never heard someone describe, like, I look expensive. Well, except for Cryo Cat, but Like, what does that mean?

[Kat]

I think is that, like, the clean girl esthetic? They look at all clean girl esthetic, like, looks like old money.

[Amy]

I don't know this.

[Kat]

Oh, my gosh. Okay.

[Amy]

I don't know this. This part of TikTok.

[Kat]

I'm going to get back to the sweater.

[Amy]

Wait, Clean girl is a thing?

[Kat]

Clean girl aesthetic is, like, slick back bun, minimal, like, dewy skin. Like.

[Amy]

Oh, like no makeup.

[Kat]

No makeup. Makeup, yes.

[Amy]

Oh, I love a good no makeup in, like, an.

[Kat]

An oxford. Like, very clean clothes. Oh, like clean aesthetic.

[Amy]

Like ironed, steamed. Do you have a steamer?

[Kat]

The opposite of what we're wearing. Okay, but clean girl aesthetic is supposed to look expensive. Okay. People are listening. Probably like, cat, you're getting it wrong.

[Amy]

I use dry shampoo this morning. I'm dirty girl.

[Kat]

I haven't washed my hair since I got a blowout.

[Amy]

I'm dirty girl or dirty girl. Okay, okay. So if we want to look, like.

[Kat]

Rich, it doesn't work.

[Amy]

Chic.

[Kat]

Polished is a better term because I'm like. I don't like saying, like, I want to.

[Amy]

Me neither. That's why I was like, what. How does. What's our real value?

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

We're all expensive in our own way.

[Kat]

So I was looking at that because I was watching these reels because. Or tick tocks because I was like, I don't buy this. I need somebody to explain this to me because this. This equation doesn't work. Well, then, because I was just watching videos about numbers, this other video came up, and it was the Ralph Lauren rule of three. Do you say Ralph Lauren or Ralph Lauren?

[Amy]

Both. I say Ralph Lauren mostly, but I feel like on Friends, did they say that? Was this an episode of Friends where they're like, Ralph Lauren?

[Kat]

You know that I've never seen Friends.

[Amy]

Okay, well, I don't even know if it's really a Friends episode. Just popped into my head.

[Kat]

Speaking of, I'll get back to the story. Do you say kabosh or kibosh?

[Amy]

I don't say that word. Where. What is that? Like a.

[Kat]

They put the kibosh on it.

[Amy]

I don't say that. I don't.

[Kat]

I don't. You ever heard somebody say it? You're acting like you're better than this word.

[Amy]

I mean, I say like a kebab. Like that you stick meat on a stick.

[Kat]

Nobody's ever said kibosh. Okay, well, to all the listeners out there, I want to know. People say kai Bosh or kibosh because I've always said kibosh. And Patrick says, kibosh, and it sounds weird.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Foreign.

[Amy]

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Visit workingforestsinitiative.com to learn more. Back to my story. Rule of threes. I actually really like this rule because I struggle. You know how I struggle getting dressed these days? Making something look like an outfit and not like, I just, like, put on a shirt and pants. Like, I'm always like, how come this person looks like they're wearing an outfit? When I put it on, I just kind of look me.

[Amy]

So it's like. That's like the difference between wearing and styling.

[Kat]

Yes. And so she said when she worked at Ralph Lauren, they had to always wear three pieces. So if you wore pants, shirt, sweater, or if you wear a dress, you'll do like belt sweater, or like, belt, scarf around your neck or something like that. And it helps your look look more polished. Polish is a great word, Shannon. And she had on like a oxford shirt, just regular degular. Jeans and a degular. I don't know why I've been saying that a lot. Regular degular.

[Amy]

Just fun. Fun. I mean, fun. Done.

[Kat]

Okay. Anyway, this just made me think of you with a sweater because she just had. She just put this little sweater over her, and it took. It looked crazy. She looked like.

[Amy]

Took her from zero to hero.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Took her from poor to rich. Yeah. Took her from cheap to expensive.

[Kat]

Yes. It really did. I don't know that I can pull off the sweater around my shoulder.

[Amy]

Yes, you could.

[Kat]

You're saying that you've never seen it.

[Amy]

Yeah, but it is. Yeah.

[Kat]

Maybe with the blowout. I can do it now. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Try to remind me next time we record. I'll see if I can whip something up.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay. So rule of threes. Try it and see if it helps.

[Amy]

Okay. Have you seen the thing about the order in which you get ready?

[Kat]

Like, when you do your.

[Amy]

Like, do you do makeup? Outfit, hair, outfit, makeup. Hair, hair, makeup, outfit, makeup, Hair, outfit, outfit, hair, makeup or hair, outfit, makeup.

[Kat]

Okay, what am I getting ready for?

[Amy]

It depends. It depends. I guess it depends what you're getting.

[Kat]

Ready for, because if I'm getting ready for a big event, I need to know my outfit before I figure out what I'm doing with my hair and what my makeup's gonna look like. But every day I do skin care, hair, makeup.

[Amy]

Skincare is makeup, makeup, makeup. There's only three options. Makeup.

[Kat]

Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. Makeup. Same. No.

[Amy]

What do you do?

[Kat]

I really think it depends. I'M not even kidding.

[Amy]

Yeah, it does. It depends.

[Kat]

I think it's either hair. It's how I'm feeling, and then my outfits always last if it's just a regular degular day.

[Amy]

Mm. Yeah, I would say my outfit list lasts mostly, too.

[Kat]

You think people get dressed first?

[Amy]

Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe if they pick out their outfit, they already know that it's good. But, like, I need my hair, my makeup to be done, because then my outfit will look better.

[Kat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Amy]

And then I need my hair. I can do less with my hair if my makeup is already done and I kind of see what we're working with. I may mess with my hair longer if my makeup isn't done, because I'll be trying to, like.

[Kat]

That is a good point.

[Amy]

Make myself look better.

[Kat]

But now, you know. Rule of three. You want to do two, you need.

[Amy]

Clothes and hair, and, well, I guess you don't have to have.

[Kat]

No, you couldn't. She. They're saying, like, you could have, like. Like, I'm wearing sweatpants, so I don't have outfit.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

But no, I consider this is a great outfit, but I have makeup and hair. Okay, so you. I'm still wearing clothes, so I'm polished, but.

[Amy]

Polished. Okay, I gotcha. I see what you're saying. I don't believe in it, but I'm gonna adopt that. I'm gonna try. When I get ready for work tomorrow, I'm gonna try the. The rule of three. Like, I need to make sure I have, like, a blazer or sweater or a belt or a scarf.

[Kat]

Yeah. And. Yeah, send me your. What? Third? Accessory. No, it can't be an accessory. It's like an item.

[Amy]

Okay, do you say accessory or accessory? Speaking of how to say things, I.

[Kat]

Don'T think anybody says accessories.

[Amy]

Yes, they do. I hear them. I hear them. Cat, you say it.

[Kat]

Accessory.

[Amy]

Accessories.

[Kat]

Accessory. Nobody says.

[Amy]

Yes, I swear, now that I'm telling you, you're gonna hear people say accessory.

[Kat]

Poem.

[Amy]

No. Poem. I'm not the only one that says poem. Poem. Matthew McConaughey does it, and so does Kelly Clarkson. We've confirmed this. You know this because they posted about it. It's a Texas thing.

[Kat]

Oh, really?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm sorry.

[Amy]

You can't. You're hating on my heritage. Origin.

[Kat]

Origin. Okay.

[Amy]

State of birth, my birthplace.

[Kat]

I'm sorry. Yeah, I take it back. Accessory.

[Amy]

No, I don't say. I say accessory. I don't know what part. You know, how. Fine. If we want to Assign poem to, like, some Texans. There is a part of the country that says accessory. I don't know where or why, but now that I've told you, sort of like this blue car. And then you start seeing blue car. Now you're gonna hear accessory.

[Kat]

Laughing.

[Amy]

You're gonna hear what?

[Kat]

So I say accessory. And I do think scarf is a accessory. However, for this, it's not. Because it can't be. You add jewelry. That's not one of the threes.

[Amy]

Right.

[Kat]

Okay. I mean, unless you do, like, some crazy neck thing, like necklace that's, like.

[Amy]

Big, like a statement piece. Yeah.

[Kat]

It can't just be like, one of these little necklaces.

[Amy]

Nothing dainty.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Has to be, like, in your face kind of necklace. What about a hat?

[Kat]

That would be an item.

[Amy]

That's an item. I feel like a hat's an accessory. No, I'm just saying it that way.

[Kat]

But I think for the. I think it just is. Not. Not jewelry and shoes don't count because you're obviously going to wear shoes. I only watched one video. I could be doing it wrong. We should ask somebody. That worked out Ralph Lauren.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

What was the rules?

[Amy]

We'll look it up. This makes me think of, you know, we were talking about your hair. Like some stylist out of Paris or something somewhere has this measurement rule for if you're supposed to have short hair or long hair. And I watched so many different videos on it, and I could never really decipher where the exact measurement in the ear was coming from. Like, are you measuring it from, like, the hole where the middle of the ear or the bottom of the earlobe? And depending on. If you do that, you could be off by an inch. And then I get confused. Am I supposed to chop my hair or not?

[Kat]

Wait, she's saying depending on where your ear is.

[Amy]

He. He's saying sexist of you.

[Kat]

Okay. I'm so sorry. Doing. On where your ear is.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

You should have shorter, long.

[Amy]

Depending on. Now, I don't know the measurements, but it's like if you take the ear to your neck, like, there's a. There's a measurement somewhere between here and here that if it's a certain amount, then you should have a bob or you should have long hair. And then if you're right on it, then, lucky you, you get to wear it bob or long, and you'll look good. But then they showed all these examples of people that have it, and yes, the bob does look better on them because it's like the length of their. Yes. And I couldn't even when I went to his page, which I don't even know what hairstylist this is, but he must be world renowned. I couldn't figure out exactly where he started measuring because then I started seeing conflicting videos and people were doing it wrong. And then I'm like, I need it to be accurate. Like, who can just give me the one accurate video? Because I Googled and I started reading different measurements, and that's how I feel. And maybe now about the three Ralph Lauren. Like, is there going to be conflicting reports on what's an accessory and what's not? We need to know the real rule.

[Kat]

You need to breathe. When's the last time you took a breath?

[Amy]

I just. You need for people to. You're getting hot. Because here's the deal. I rely heavily on advice from other people. And when it's not exact and I can't figure it out, I get overwhelmed. And I'm like, well, now I don't know what to do.

[Kat]

Well, listen, I'm going to give you something that's going to be really helpful, I think.

[Amy]

What?

[Kat]

Don't cut your hair into a bob.

[Amy]

Have you.

[Kat]

Don't do it. Because. Because, Because, Because.

[Amy]

But what if I measure it and it tells me I have.

[Kat]

Every time you cut your hair, you then are like, why did I cut my hair? I want my long hair back.

[Amy]

Yeah, which.

[Kat]

You've had short hair like that. I think you look great with it, but you get tired of it really quickly. So that brings me to my next point. We talked about this in our newsletter, but you have not talked about them. Your newest purchase from Amazon, that goes on your head.

[Amy]

Oh, my bangs. My hot clip. I got clip in bangs. Are they on my counter? Maybe we should have Shannon go grab them, because they might be on my.

[Kat]

Are they on the counter?

[Amy]

They're in my dresser at my room. Should I.

[Kat]

Cat's gonna go get.

[Amy]

We're gonna go get the bangs.

[Kat]

I haven't seen these. Have you put them in?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

And what drove you to get these?

[Amy]

Nicole Kidman.

[Kat]

Did she tell you to get them?

[Amy]

No.

[Kat]

You just like her bangs.

[Amy]

I've been thinking about bangs for a while because it's sort of one of those things just like getting a bob. Like, you just. They're in a pink box. When you don't have it, you want it.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And when you have it, you don't. You don't want it.

[Kat]

It's like all the girls growing up wanted curly hair, and then all the girls with curly hair wanted straight Hair.

[Amy]

And then with bangs.

[Kat]

And I got a perm. You do.

[Amy]

It's dangerous because you cut them, and then you have to wait for them to grow out or you just clip.

[Kat]

Why don't you start with, like, a curtain bang?

[Amy]

These had good reviews.

[Kat]

And how did it has. They don't. It's not the same color as your hair, though.

[Amy]

Why?

[Kat]

Why? Because it's not.

[Amy]

I tried to order it, like, exactly, but I don't really know how to, like, get them in.

[Kat]

Can I help you? Question.

[Amy]

Why did you order those? Because Nicole Kidman got bangs, and she looks so cute.

[Kat]

Okay, hold on.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

What?

[Amy]

I know they're not.

[Kat]

Here's the mirror. Do we get you the mirror?

[Amy]

Yes. Let me see the mirror. Okay, so they need to be brushed a little bit. But, like, you.

[Kat]

You.

[Amy]

You put your hair. Look. See how it's giving? Like, Wait. But, like. Okay, look. Okay, hold on. And then you take my hair, you know, and tuck this. They're just. I can't get on my look. But it gives you the general idea. It's like the general idea of what they would look like.

[Kat]

Okay, so you actually would be cute with bangs. But, like, those aren't the. The ones.

[Amy]

I know, but this. Do you see how. Just giving you the general idea.

[Kat]

You look like.

[Amy]

I feel like it matches my hair color.

[Kat]

You look like you're from The. The. The 80s. Yeah. You look like you're from Saved by the Bell. If you look like Kelly Kapowski.

[Amy]

If I take them back a little bit.

[Kat]

Look.

[Amy]

How's that?

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Well, I mean, probably not this much of it, but. Yeah, I don't think I'll wear them in public, but it's help filling that need to figure it out. Like, I don't have to cut my bangs to see.

[Kat]

Okay, so that's what you bought them for. Not to wear them, but to just, like, scratch the edge.

[Amy]

Well, I thought if I could figure out how to apply them or put them on. What's the word? Applicate them.

[Kat]

Insert them is what I thought.

[Amy]

If I could install the hairpiece correctly, I would maybe wear them. Yes.

[Kat]

This is human hair.

[Amy]

Yes. Yes, it is. It is human hair.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

And they have a lot of reviews on Amazon.

[Kat]

Okay. Maybe we just need to style it. Yeah.

[Amy]

Like. But see, this is like. You know how there's no makeup? Makeup.

[Kat]

What? This is what.

[Amy]

No style.

[Kat]

Style.

[Amy]

You're just like.

[Kat]

This is like. I woke up like this.

[Amy]

I woke up like this.

[Kat]

Casual.

[Amy]

Are these my accessories?

[Kat]

Like, kind of a granny right now?

[Amy]

A granny See, I think I feel.

[Kat]

Like it's the eight. Oh, my gosh. You just, like, reminded me of a grandma from the 80s.

[Amy]

Okay, so you look like you're about.

[Kat]

To go bake a pie or something.

[Amy]

It's not giving you a little bit of what my hair would look like with bangs. You can't take me seriously right now.

[Kat]

I feel like you look really pretty.

[Amy]

You don't have to tell me that part. But just think, if you're thinking about chopping your bangs and then you get to put these in, you spare yourself.

[Kat]

Yeah. Because you're not gonna do it, right.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

You. You can either decide. Okay. Yes. I feel like I could pull this off and I should cut my bangs, or you can be like, this looks terrible on me now. Anytime I get the urge to have bangs, I just put in my hair system, and then I'll be like, oh, yeah, I don't need to cut my bangs anymore.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

And then I remove it, and it's simple.

[Kat]

And then you're back to normal.

[Amy]

And then you look so different.

[Kat]

I think you could do curtain bangs, though, if you did want bangs, because those. If you don't want them, they're easier to, like, style into your hair.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So, okay. If anybody wants to scratch that itch.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Links in the newsletter. Sign up for our newsletter and also.

[Amy]

Our favorite socks and my favorite Q tips ever that have changed my life. I didn't know those existed. This is the riveting stuff that you're gonna get in our newsletters, which Kat and I were laughing about our content and what we linked, and we were like, well, this is us. If people think this is lame, well, then we're lame. Like, it is what it is.

[Kat]

We like socks and Q tips also. I thought you put those Q tips in your ear.

[Amy]

Well, you can, I guess, if you want, but it's like, I just feel like it's good for, like, makeup and removing. Like, if you're doing your nails like that pointy tip, you could dip in nail remover and, like, clean up. Like, good for, like, inner eye and nose. But the pointy in the ear might hurt.

[Kat]

But so if you want that, sign up for a newsletter. You never know it's gonna be the next one.

[Amy]

That's right. Well, I guess before we go, then, we also need to remind people again about the merch in case they forgot because a lot's happened.

[Kat]

You've gotten bangs. You got rid of your bangs. November 7th.

[Amy]

That's the day. It's a Friday. Mark your calendars and I think I'm most excited about the sweatset because I'm just, like, living for sweats this time of year. We dropped a hat hint in the episode, so.

[Kat]

We did.

[Amy]

We did.

[Kat]

Okay, so guess what? What the hat's gonna say. We'll give you a shout out. Yeah, guess. Right.

[Amy]

Someone will probably guess because we've also kind of posted about it before, but that's another hint.

[Kat]

You're giving me too many hints.

[Amy]

Too many hints. Okay.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

All right. Well, we hope you have the day.

[Kat]

You need to have.

[Amy]

Bye.

[Kat]

Bye.

[Amy]

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