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Megan Pearson
Life ain't always pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful.
Amy Brown
Laugh a little more. Tight tight. Said he can't. You're kicking it with four Things with Amy Brown. Happy Thursday. Four Things. Amy here and my friend Megan is joining me today for a chat on all kinds of things. Megan has come on the podcast before. She is Beauty by Megan Megan Pearson. So if you have been a loyal listener for years, you have heard her before. You maybe even have gone in to see Megan for microblading on your brows or even your areola because Megan works with breast cancer. Reconstructed breasts. Yeah, like tattooing the areola back on, which we'll get into more of that later in the episode. And Megan, I've got to walk you through my whole new situation with my brows and how my forehead shape is changing because I'm not getting Botox right now and we need to come up with a plan.
Megan Pearson
I can't wait. I got it. So Excited.
Amy Brown
I'm using like a new little pin thing and I got my techniques, but I think you're going to need to come in and save the day for me once I get in the right place. So I want your thoughts on that. But before we get into the more vain side of our conversation, you are the reason why I went to get ketamine. So I want to start with your experience. And I guess I should preface the entire conversation with the fact that Megan and I are not experts in this and we're not saying, hey, go out and do ketamine because it's going to do this for you, since it did something amazing for us. That's just not the case. But I'm going to read in simple terms what ketamine is, so we'll start with that. It's a medication that was originally used as an anesthetic in medical and veterinary settings. In recent years, it's been used in controlled low doses as a treatment for conditions like depression, anxiety, PTSD and chronic pain. When administered by professionals in a clinical setting, which is what we both did, it can have rapid positive effects on mood and mental health. So there you go. But Megan is the reason why I got ketamine therapy. And I think I was in the office one day with your cousin. Yeah, Krista, I was getting a facial and you're like, amy, oh my gosh, you have got to check this out. You need to call Lindy. She has changed my life. This is amazing. So what led you to even exploring ketamine for yourself and what was your experience like?
Megan Pearson
I have experienced, you know, anxiety. Not so much depression depression, but definitely lots of anxiety. Throughout my life, everyone has had their traumas and their childhood and, you know, things like that. So that's a whole. Won't get in all that. But at the end of the day, I just felt like I was really disconnected from like my childhood and the things from my past and like, you know, my therapist, Lindy, who you just talked about, you know, we'd sit there and talk about like little Meekin and I'm like, I don't even remember her. Like, I was so disconnected from her. And like I said, my childhood, that it was just, it was hard for me to. I can show my daughter, my 6 year old, all this empathy and all this love, but when it came to myself, I'm so hard on myself and I can't show myself that, you know, to me, I look at myself and I'm like, dude, you're 37. Suck it up. You know, but I'm like, I would never say something like that to my. To my child, you know, And I do think there is a. I'm not a therapist. I'm not. But there's a fine line between worrying so much about your. Your past and your child, you know, and lingering on that and at the end of the day saying, like, okay, I'm an adult. Like, we all experience bad things. Like, you know, my bad things weren't that bad.
Amy Brown
But, well, it's all relative to what you've experienced. Like, you. You may not have suffered in a way that somebody else has, but it doesn't minimize your suffering. You've still gone through something. And I get what you're saying about, like, once you're an adult and you have the awareness that you're operating off of old software.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
I've heard it explained in that way of, like, okay, you can keep running on your old software if you want to, but if you're an adult and you have the access to and you have the ability, which some people may not even have that awareness or the resources, that's not lost on me at all. But if, you know, you're capable of taking a step closer towards a reboot of sorts and updating that software.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
Then it's up to you to either stay stuck. Yes. Or move forward with a reboot.
Megan Pearson
Yes. I love that way of explaining it, because that's so true. And that's where I got to the point where I was like, okay, Megan, like, you either, like, keep dealing with this, or you take a risk and, like, try something different and see what happens. And I was terrified to do ketamine. I'm not gonna lie, because I don't even drink. Like, I am very. I'm a control freak. Ever since I had my daughter, you know, becoming a single mom, I don't like anything that makes me, you know, scared I'm not going to be me or have control of situations. So the thought of being. I remember, like, talking to Lindy and being like, lindy, what do we go under? And I, like, snap. And we find out, like, I'm a schizophrenic and I never go back to being me again or, like, all these crazy, like, irrational fears that were going on. But again, I just got so sick of. Of feeling the same, you know, that I was like, it's just. It's time for a change. And I really wanted to make sure that I. I set my intentions. And I knew that what I was going in there for was you know, to kind of try and, you know, nurture my. My inner child or my little Megan, you know, if you will, and just show myself that same empathy and love that I show my daughter. So, you know, Lindy is very good about explaining to you that, you know, you do want to make sure you have a set intention and goal, you know, as, you know, going in there. I know there are practices where they have ketamine clinics where people and just go and, you know, get hooked, you know, into a machine and, you know, do the IV that way. I'm very happy that the way I did it was in more of a. I don't want ritual, you know, or a professional. I don't know how you'd want to.
Amy Brown
I mean, she did set it up in a very ritual way of, like, you sit and you have your little bowl with your thing that you put under your tongue.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
I don't know what that. And it was very. Each time I went. We did it the exact same way.
Megan Pearson
Yes. And you set your intention. She does either, you know, if you are religious and you want a prayer, if you want just a, you know, overall message, just kind of. You can kind of tell her what you're wanting.
Amy Brown
She'll read to you.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, yeah. And she reads it to you. And, you know, she makes it very clear that she's there for you. You know, if you want comfort, support, you know, you have. Ask her, you know, to. Which I did. I ended up asking her one day. I was like, lindy, I need your hand to.
Amy Brown
Just.
Megan Pearson
Because I felt really alone. And. And so she's just. She makes it a really wonderful. It's. It's a practice, and it's a ritual. And then you have. You have your session. So you.
Amy Brown
What I found difficult was having the thing in my mouth, and you can't swallow.
Megan Pearson
I know.
Amy Brown
For 15 minutes.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Brown
And I would look at her and be like, shoot. I just swallowed. I didn't want to mess up. I wanted to do everything right. I wanted my experience to go well. And she was like, it's okay. Don't worry about it. Just try not to swallow again.
Megan Pearson
Because when you get zoned out, like, you. You can't help it. That's what you do. Dang it.
Amy Brown
I swallowed again, and I would be freaking out, and she's like, it's okay. Stay calm. And I'm like, no, I'm wrecking my nervous system before I even do this, because I fear that I'm going to do it wrong. So that, to me, was oh yeah.
Megan Pearson
And it tastes terrible. It tastes terrible. Like, just weird. But yeah, yeah, I brought my. Like I brought. I don't know if you did this, but I brought my favorite blanket. I'm a textures per if you can't tell. I love the way stuff feels. But I brought my heating pad. I brought my favorite blanket. Like. Yeah. And you just like, you do your little ritual and then you lay on the ground and I laid on my heating pad with my blanket and put your little mask on and you. You're kind of just gone for about three hours. You know, in your own. She has a guided playlist, but other than that it's not. I didn't know if it was going to be a verbal therapy, you know, or what it was going to be. But you know, it just the music. Just the music. Yeah, your head takes you on a journey. Yeah, you. You need to go. So.
Amy Brown
But I could tell I was going because you're aware that you're there, but then you're not there. Yeah, you're on this journey in your brain. But I would definitely go different places. When the song would change 100%, things would just be different. I was. I wasn't controlling that as all at all. It was all in my.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, yeah. It was cool subconscious. But yeah. Yeah. Well, I had. I ended up having. The. One of the final pushes was I had a neighbor who was a vet and he was like telling me how life changing it was. And you know, his. His wife came to me and she was like, you know, and I've actually heard this several times since then is like with vets and people like that is their only explanation of it is that they finally came home, you know, from. From who they had turned, you know, and changed to be. From like war, you know, from things like that that, you know, he was finally home, which I loved. You know, for me the thought of that, it was just super impactful. But. And then I had a client the very. The day before I was supposed to go. I was like super nervous and long story short, my favorite color is yellow. So this client walks in and she has a yellow rose. And she was a last minute cancellation that just got in real quick. And so she comes in with a rose and like she was just so sweet and spiritual and just like, you know, I just. I was vibing with her and I'd mentioned something about ketamine and she looked at me and she just stopped. She goes, megan, your life is about to be changed. And that's not something I would usually share with just like random strangers and random clients that, like, I'm about to go dose myself up on ketamine, you know, I, like, that's not my usual. But for. I felt very compelled to talk to her about it. And she had done it and she had reassured me and just all the affirmations that I needed to hear that, like it was. I was gonna be okay, you know, and it was a good idea to do it. And so. And I trust Lindy wholeheartedly. She's been my therapist for six years now, I believe. So I went in there that day and I'll. I'll just tell you the, the first little thing that happened because to most people, like, to me, that was the most impactful. Like I said, I've got really disconnected with my childhood and my little. I can't even picture what I did, what I looked like, any of those things. So we do the ritual. I put my blindfold on or my mask on and I lay down and the song starts coming on. And, you know, I see I'm out in the woods and it's just the most beautiful, you know, spring day. And every. All the colors were vivid and bright and, you know, the yellows were super, super bright and the greens. And I see this little girl, this little blonde girl just running through the woods. And I look and, you know, I'm kind of watching her and she's just laughing and playing and, you know, running around. And I start to walk closer to her and I look and I was like, oh my God, like, that's me, you know, And I mean, I'm telling you, like I was, I was standing there in that forest, just like me and you were standing here today. You know, I felt I was there, there, you know, and so she's running and playing and like giggling, and it was the first time that I just even could see myself at that age. So I start like hyperventilate crying, like, Like I've never cried in my life before. I mean, my whole body was truly crying. It was insane. And then all of a sudden my 6 year old and she runs out and starts playing with little me. So I am watching myself play with my daughter and just like being a kid and then all of a sudden, you know, they kind of see me and they, you know, giggling and they run over to me and I, you know, sit down on the ground and both girls come up to me and sit on each of my lap and like, I am kissing them both and like, I'm telling, you know, little me all the things that I tell Henley, you know, about how beautiful you are and how worthy and how sweet. You know, I'm kissing Henley and, you know, I'm telling myself and her, both of those things. And, like, again, I am, like, my whole body is, like, convulsing, crying at this point. And then little me just looks up and grabs my face and says, you know, it's okay. You know, I know you love me. And I was like, okay, it'll make me cry now. But I was like, that's powerful. It was so, like, hearing that was just, like. It was just it. And then. And then I remember, like, just this release, like, I'm telling you, like, I had never breathed in my entire life before. I'd had a lot of, like, back pain and a lot of just stiffness in my body. And I thought it was my job, you know, I hunch all day, and so I'm like, oh, it's because, you know. And then I find out later on, it's a term they kind of call body army armoring, where you're always tense and tight and, you know, when you've been in fight or flight for a long time. So I did that one ketamine session, and, like, all of my body pain was gone. And again, this might not be what anyone else experiences or for anyone else, but, you know, I'm not saying go do it for back pain, but for me, like, it was just. I was holding on.
Amy Brown
Because you were doing the armoring. Yeah. Some people's back pain might be from something else.
Megan Pearson
Exactly.
Amy Brown
It may not be that. But for you, I can even tell right now with the tears streaming down your face, that, like, what a release that first session.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Did for you, or what an impact. And, yeah. You're. It was forever changed.
Megan Pearson
It was from it. Yeah. And that was the first. I had, like, four experiences like that. My first session alone. That was literally within the first, like, 10, 15 minutes, you know, of me being there and having that release. And, I mean, I just. My body, like, it felt like I had never truly laid down before, you know, like, my. The heaviness of my body and stuff. I was like, oh, my gosh.
Amy Brown
Like, so, like, when you said something a minute ago, like, you had not breathed.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
So to me, I hear that it's like, almost like you finally got to exhale.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
Like.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
And just be.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
And so if that's in the first 15 minutes, because you're laying there anywhere from two to three hours.
Megan Pearson
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Brown
And then you sort of just come out of it. And then you're like, oh, wow, three hours, it's gone by.
Megan Pearson
Well, yes. Yeah.
Amy Brown
Wild journey through. Yeah. The forest. The woods. Like, I spent time in the ocean. I just kept emerging from the water in almost like a. A cheer stance of, like. And nailing my move.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Almost like, here I am, and I'm nailing it. Like, I'm proud of myself. And I think that was some stuff with younger me of not ever thinking I was capable. And I just kept emerging from the water almost like, I am capable. Hear me roar. And I had not an experience like you, where I was crying in a compulsive way, but I had such peace coming out of that. And I think I still went at a time where my nervous system was a little bit in chaos.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
So I still haven't done my fourth session. I've done three. I'm very curious to go. And I've talked to Lindy about this and doing my fourth, where I feel as calm as I ever have felt, and my nervous system feels very regulated. And I know that that's life. There's ebbs and flows, and you never know what could be around the corner. But I'm in a season right now where my nervous system feels very stable.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
And I'm very curious to go and do a treatment without any chaos, I think, because I wonder how much more or where we'll go.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Because you don't know. You don't know where you're gonna go. I mean, you can set your intention, but you don't know how it's gonna show up. Like, why was I in the ocean? Emerging from the. Sometimes I was, like, laying in the ocean. My deceased mother and father to the left and the right of me, just laying there with me with their arms crossed over their chest. Like, just laying there with me. And then my sister's a frog. Like.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
She's what? And then my second time, she was a zebra playing the drums. But it was more than just her playing the drums. Like, she was my person who was, like, keeping the beat for me.
Megan Pearson
Oh, I love that. Yeah, that's cool.
Amy Brown
Like, in. In a band, the drummer is keeping the beat for everybody.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Like, everybody is relying on the drummer. If the drummer's off, everything's off.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
And that's why oftentimes it's like the Drummer that's like, 1, 2, 3, go. And they're the one that started everything. And so my sister was. She is my. My go to, like, my safe space. Like, she helps me find My rhythm.
Megan Pearson
Is she older or younger? I can't remember.
Amy Brown
She's four years older. Okay, okay. But she's also come to you for brow.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
I love her. I don't know how else to really explain my experience. People just. If it's something you've been thinking about, do the research, talk to people. Word of mouth is everything. And going to someone where you know other people have had a good experience, like, I think me showing up in Lindy's office and doing that is because I trust you. And you had such a good experience, and she has been your therapist for six or seven years. When you finally decided to try the ketamine part, it's not like. And certainly you could Google someone and show up and have a good experience, but it's not like that's what you had to do. You had been with her. You have a trusted relationship with her. And then she decided to do this with you, which. So she was your therapist first, like talk therapy. And then you did that. Whereas with me, I went and did the ketamine with her and then she became my talk therapist. Because so much was happening during my sessions, and I really want to just open up about everything and lay it all out. And I could tell she was a safe space. There's no judgment at all.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
And I have another amazing therapist. But I just thought, well, I might shift to this because now so much is out on the table. I think that there's stuff I held back from my other therapist.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
And I wanted a fresh start with, like, here's it all.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
All on the table. These are all part.
Megan Pearson
No holding back. And. Yeah. And Lindy and I mean, I have. I went to a great therapist, too, before that, and I loved her, but, man, I don't know what it is about Lindy. She is just instant, like, regulation for me. Like, I could hear her voice, you know, and she is just the most calm and peaceful. But, yeah, she's. She's amazing. And. And I've had a couple people who had went to, like, one of my clients who was. She had it done in California. She said she went to, like, several different therapists and almost, like, interviewed them, if you will, you know, who all did ketamine, because not everyone is the right fit for everyone. So I think it's really important that you said is, like, referrals. And not only that, but, like, knowing that you can check out other people. You know, you can check out a couple different people. And, like, because nervous system is everything, and whoever you feel regulated around and calm with. Because when I did ketamine, I was in such a good state. I wasn't anxious when I actually did it. You know, I wasn't having anxiety for the first time in my life when I actually did it, which was kind of lovely because I felt like my body was just like ready to open up, you know, with any and everything. So I think it'll be fun for you to go now. Like you said, when your nervous system is so regulated and like, and people told me too, they're like, not necessarily what you think is going to come up will come up, but what you need is what's going to come up. And some of the things that you go through are hard. Like, or for me, like, I had weird stuff too. Like in one I was like this warrior video game girl. Like, I mean it was just crazy stuff, but like all the hard things, you know, like you mentioned your, you know, your parents and stuff. And I had some hard things come up as well with family and stuff. And it was hard, but it wasn't hard in like a negative way, if that makes sense. Like it wasn't like a bad, scary hard, you know, it was like a liberating and like a free, you know, a peaceful heart, freeing heart. Yeah. So it wasn't. Even though it was hard. Like again, it wasn't scary. Like I was worried that stuff that was scary was going to come up and thankfully hard things came up, but none of it was like bad.
Amy Brown
When you were talking about childhood, you it made me think of this quote, so I pulled it up and the author is unknown, but it's. There are only two people in the world. You need to care about their opinion. It's not your mom, your dad, your spouse, your kids, your boss or your friends. It's the eight year old version of you and the 80 year old version of you. You have lived a good life. If you impress those two people.
Megan Pearson
Oh. Oh, that gave me chills.
Amy Brown
Goosebumps, right?
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
It's such a good.
Megan Pearson
Oh, that's a good one.
Amy Brown
And yeah, eight year old. You an 80 year old. Yes. How can you make those two people completely different people?
Megan Pearson
People that are completely consumed with total different aspects of life, you know? Oh, I love that.
Amy Brown
Yeah, that's a good one.
Megan Pearson
That's a. Sure, that's a good one to think on too.
Amy Brown
We can pivot now and get into brows, Botox and breast. Your mom had breast cancer. It got you into a whole thing. And I know your dad had cancer as well. So we'll we'll touch on that. But that's like me now. I'm trying to figure out my Botox situation or my no Botox situation for my 80 year old self.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
Trying to figure that out. And even when I started Pilates a few months ago, I started for 80 year old me.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Because I saw this podcast. I say saw because I was watching it on YouTube. This person was talking about osteoporosis in women. And I think she may have been a surgeon, like a hip surgeon. She said a lot of people that she works with, like if they fall.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
In their 80s and she's having to perform surgery on them. She said Pilates is the number one thing she would tell women to start now. Or some sort of training like that that helps get you ready for when you fall, when you're older so that we don't end up on the operating table. And I thought, okay, I'm gonna go to Pilates right now. Which I'm sure there's other exercises and workouts you could do that just happen to be what she mentioned. And I was already interested in Pilates and that has been something that has felt very good to me at the moment. And just listening to my body, ye need. So I'm doing that, doing the Pilates right now for 80 year old, 80 year old Amy.
Megan Pearson
She'll be proud. So proud of you.
Amy Brown
Yeah, eight year old Amy's really proud. Really proud of me. But 8 year old Amy also got called half brow because that's where I. Well, probably wasn't 8 year old me, but probably teenage me when I started to put on my brows. And then I would go swimming.
Megan Pearson
Oh.
Amy Brown
And then I would come out of the water and I remember one time someone was like, oh, hey, half brow. And. And I thought, ah. But that's when my insecurity about my brows first started.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
And so then that led to this whole thing of trying to figure out my brows. And it's been a whole journey. And so we'll get into it.
Megan Pearson
Runs deep.
Amy Brown
Like brows in our relationship. Yes. And why meeting you has been so helpful for my confidence. And so we'll talk about the Botox brows and breasts next.
Ryan Seacrest
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Hustle is behind me, but I'm still trying to give my home a little tlc. Like there's things on the list I've still been getting, but I don't want to be running all over the place trying to collect these items that are all very different. For example, a desk for my daughter's room where she wants to do her homework. Found it at Wayfair. My son has been begging for one of those little mini basketball hoops that goes on the back of his door so he can shoot hoops from in bed. Found it at Wayfair. I personally needed a new makeup mirror with a light and a magnifying glass so that I can see what I'm doing. Found it at Wayfair. And with spring coming, there are a few things on my list that I want to give my home the whole spring cozy vibes. And Wayfair has so many options, from spring accents to cozy Seating, lighting, art, entry tables, rugs, the list goes on. I mean, you see, from my shopping at Wayfair, they really do have what you need. Something for everyone. And for every budget, they've got free and easy delivery. Even on the big stuff, they'll even help you set it up. So give your home the refresh that it needs with wayfair. Head to wayfair.com right now. That's W A Y-F-A-I-R.com wayfair. Every style, every home. Let's talk about the superficial.
Megan Pearson
Yes. Yeah.
Amy Brown
Surface. Y things, which is that I've stopped the Botox and my brows are changing, which made me think, like, I've been coming to you with Botox. So why is it that as the Botox is dissolving in my forehead now, my brows are changing? And what do you think the solution needs to be? Because right now, I am drawing them on myself. And I have a new appreciation for your steady hand and how you can even do hair. Like strokes.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, well, it took a lot of practice, I will say that. But being a makeup artist, you know, for 10 years of my life, like, I've always, you know, had a more artistic flair. Like, that's always been my thing. But I will say it's definitely harder to draw on the brows. Everyone always says that. That's, like, something that they don't understand how I can do. But I'm glad that y'all can't, because I wouldn't have a job if everyone could do their brows perfect every day. So thank you for your website.
Amy Brown
When I was getting your website so I can link it in the show notes for people, a review popped up from Valerie.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Yeah. You know who that is?
Megan Pearson
Okay.
Amy Brown
She said, here, I'm not the most artistic person, so filling in my eyebrows has always been more guesswork than talent. That is, until I chose Megan for microblading. My eyebrows are the perfect color and shape for my face, and I never have to worry about them again. Megan truly works magic. Now, that's gotta be.
Megan Pearson
Oh, I love. Good to hear. Yeah.
Amy Brown
And I can attest to that, too. But even finding the perfect color and shape for someone's face and thinking about that and color and how it can change over time, like, if someone gets their brows microbladed. We'll use me now as an example, because my face shape is now changing because the Botox is dissolving. I want a new game plan with you of what you think we should do. And your plan is maybe we laser them off again and start over.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, I heard a girl talking, a girl that I follow that does what I do, and she's fantastic. And she was talking about how it seems so taboo. And when you talk about layers, lasering your brows off, everyone thinks it's because you had a botched job or someone didn't know what they're doing. That's not always the case. At the end of the day, styles change, you know, your face changes, you know, the structure of your brows change, techniques change. I mean, the tools and the pigments that I'm using today versus seven years ago are completely different. You know, they have gotten so much better. So sometimes at the end of the day, when it comes to migration, aging, all of those things, the best option is to go and get a quick laser session. You know, they have the pico laser now. I don't know a whole lot of the technology about that. That's not my field. But there's so many great technicians out there who do the pico laser. It usually takes five minutes to do. It's around $250. And one session usually completely zaps the brows off, and that's usually all you need. And the girl that I am referencing, she put it in terms like this, and it really resonated with me because I've had filler done in my lips and I've had it dissolved before. So when you think about filler you're putting in your lips, eventually it's going to start migrating out. So the normal thing an injector is going to do is tell you we need to dissolve it and restart. Like that's a very normal thing to do. And no one blinks an eye. It's not a bad thing to do. You just dissolve it, redo it. So browse. We're kind of trying to change the narrative. Like that is sometimes what needs to happen with your brows, as well. As the color migrates as you age, sometimes it can look a little blurry and washed out after, you know, four years on certain skin types. So removal might just be the best option for you.
Amy Brown
Okay, so I think that's what I'm going to have to do. I'm going to book my appointment, which, if people are local, the pico laser is at Franklin.
Megan Pearson
Yes, Franklin Skin and Laser.
Amy Brown
They're.
Megan Pearson
They're fantastic. I can't tell you how many people I've sent to them. They do one little zap on most people's brows, and that's plenty for me to go back in and completely redo them. It's not pain free, but it's very quick, which is lovely. And it's, it's not bad price point.
Amy Brown
Well, as I'm just getting my new baseline of what my face is looking like as the Botox dissolves, which I think I'm on month four and when I was looking it up, it said depending on how your body metabolizes the Botox, it can take anywhere from three to six months to get it out. I'm not anti it, so I don't know, am I going to get it conservatively again and just make sure I don't go over a certain amount of units because I don't want to have the muscle atrophy take place, which is the reason why I halted it. As I'm aging, It's, I'm almost 44. 44 year old me looking out for 60 year old me.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Because I think in the moment right now it's easy to be like, oh yeah, I'll just get it here, here and here and here. But not thinking about how my skin is going to be down the line because I maybe over toxed.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
So I know this is very vain, but I think brows are an important part of the face, at least for me. I know when I wash my face and my brows come off, I instantly look different. I have the ones that you microbladed in, but right now, because of the, the Botox leaving, my brows are spreading apart in the middle, so I'm having to draw them in. Now when you're doing the brows on our face, are you doing the measurements that I'm seeing online? I never know because I'm laying on your table and my eyes are closed. But do you have like a ruler and is there guidelines you go by or do you just listen to what the client wants?
Megan Pearson
No. So I would love to listen to what the client wants. But a lot of times clients will show me a picture, tell me what they want. I'm like, I would love that too. But that's not my structure, that's not my muscles. You know, people don't think about your brow muscles or what's actually going to change, you know, where they lift. So I might add as much detail and as much, you know, lift as possible as, as I can get them. But if your brows are completely flat, there's only so much I can do. And I am not the artist that's going to go in there and, you know, shave off a brow and put it back on where you think you want it. Artists actually do that, you know, or they'll. They'll shave off half the brow and completely, like, put one brow, you know, your brow where it technically should be, you know, like having the perfect, you know, ratio, like Kardashian brow or something. But that's just not everyone's face structure, so. Yeah.
Amy Brown
So does someone just continue to shave their brows over, like. If the artist does that.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Then they have to just continue shaving their brows as the hair grows.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, yeah. Otherwise you'll have a gnarly, thick brow or you might have two tails. I've seen that a lot where people have come in and an artist has put a tail completely where their tail is not, and so they'll literally have two tails at the end of their brow. I am not the artist that's going to do that to people. I think about what it's going to look like today as well as what it's going to look like in a year from now, you know, when you have aged and, you know, trends do change. But I very much draw it on your own face. Like, I don't use stencils or rulers or anything like that. I do take a couple markings just as far as, like, you know, I can't show you, but you really don't want the end of the brow, the tail to go, you know, much further than the corner of your eye. So you kind of go corner of the nose, corner of the eye to the corner of the brow. If you start getting below that, that's what's going to drop your brow, make you look not lifted, you know, age you a little bit.
Amy Brown
That's why I have my, my Nyx, my new brow pencil that I ordered called Lift and snatch.
Megan Pearson
So you're lifted and snatch.
Amy Brown
Everybody wants my lifted lift and snatch. So I, you know, I'm a little shaky when I'm doing it, though, and it's definitely taking up a huge chunk of my getting ready time.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
So I'm pretty pumped to go get lasered and then come back in and get an appointment with you so that I can get that time back. Because I have to get ready pretty early in the morning and I need to be on for work, like, makeup wise. I can't just roll into the office. Yeah.
Megan Pearson
And you can't see your brow throughout the day. And then, like, you literally have, like, no tail or something if it's just drawn on. So that's why. Yeah. Microblading. It just. It really, you know, not to be dramatic, but it does change your life, you know, and I Don't think it's just vain. I think it's something that, you know, I think we've talked about that before. Like, when you look good, when you feel good, like, you're gonna do better in life, you know, that's why, like, cheesy as it is, I started wearing, like, all my frilly dresses because for the longest time, I'd wear, like, jeans and tee, and I was like, you know what? Like, I feel beautiful in, like, dresses. So you know what? Like, I don't care if I'm going to the grocery store. Like, I'm gonna wear the dang dress, you know? And it's. You just. Just feel better. So I don't think any of that stuff is vain. I think it's really important.
Amy Brown
Okay, good. Well, I just want to clarify because sometimes I feel like, oh, this is silly stuff. I was having a conversation with a friend the other day who someone in their life has cancer, and they were like, what? So much is just so insignificant to me right now. And this has really put life into perspective, and I know you can relate to that as well. And you work with cancer patients all the time with your talent, and, you know, you walked through cancer with your mother, so you know that at times it's like, okay, none of this stuff really matters, but also, it's okay. Two things can be true at the same time. Does it really matter? Not totally. But does it also help me in life and make me more confident and save me time?
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Yes.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
So two things can be true.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
At the same time. And I think it's when you start to prioritize it over other things.
Megan Pearson
Yeah.
Amy Brown
Not realize what's really important, or you.
Megan Pearson
Let it ruin your day. Like, if you have a bad brow day and you, like, are just like, oh, it ruined my whole. You know, like, okay, come on. You know, we all have bad days, or you wear something, you know, whatever. But. Yeah, but it's important.
Amy Brown
I like that you mentioned that too, about the clothes, because that can really impact your mood, your overall mental health, like, how you show up. It's like dopamine dressing. Like, when you get dressed and, you know, you feel confident, and it's your go to outfit, your go to color or your type of outfit, whatever that is. For you. For you, it's dresses. You just said that for someone else, it might be a cute sweat set.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
Which I know you love sweatpants, too. I love my sweatpants, but whatever gives you that confidence to walk out. And this is what I feel best in this is the color that I love. Who cares if it's on trend or what anybody else is doing? This is what helps me feel good. It's your dopamine dressing.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, I love that. I've never even heard of it as dopamine dressing, but I'm gonna think of that. I even do it at home, too. Like, this sounds so cheesy, but a couple months ago, I saw these, like, silk pajamas from Target and I have got them in every color now. And like, I walk around my house, like, with no one there except for my six year old feeling like a princess in my, like, fluffy slippers and my silk pajamas. And I like, wake up feeling like I'm in this fairy tale and stuff. And I'm like, it's all because of my job, you know, I'm doing dishes and I'm like, oh, I'm just, I'm in my silk pajamas. So I'm happy, you know, so it's. Yeah, it matters.
Amy Brown
Yeah. It's a way that you're bringing yourself that confidence even at home or you feeling your best and even that, that whimsy. Kat and I were talking about this the other day. Someone had posted like, how do you bring the whimsy into your life? And the whimsical moments? And you were talking about doing dishes like that. And one of the things that someone shared was when I'm doing my dishes, I talk to the dishes like, hey, are you ready for bath time? And it's just bringing in playfulness and feeling fun and even confident in your own home. And that's you with your silk or satin or whatever pajamas from Target, which now I need to know which ones these are because I want to get on the link.
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Megan Pearson
They're so soft. They're so cute. And I do and like, I light my candle at night, you know, before I get in my shower and I put on my, like you know, like, Sarah McLaughlin playlist or whatever, you know, kind of cheesy stuff. And, like, I just. Yeah, I shower. It's like just my little me time and my happiness and, yeah. Put on my soft, silky stuff and, yeah, it just makes you happy.
Amy Brown
Now, I can do that with my brows fully intact if I take a shower or bath once I get my new session with you. But I guess I have some steps to take before that. First, I want the Botox to fully dissolve.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
Then I need to go get the pico laser. Then I'm gonna book an appointment. And then as I age, too, and trends change, it's just different. So, yeah, when I first started seeing you years ago, it makes sense that we might need to alter it and change.
Megan Pearson
Think about how much makeup styles change if you look at, like, celebrities on the red carpet. Like, even when I did makeup, you know, I look at my first, like, red carpets with my girls, like, you know, Kelsey and stuff, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, it has changed drastically. So it's like, you know, permanent makeup. It's permanent, you know, essentially, but you can still get it lasered off. You can still make changes, you know, And I. I found, too, over the past, you know, couple years that my style has changed so much with, like, openness and airiness. I think we're seeing a lot of, like, oversaturated brows, and partly because, you know, it might be the artist, but partly because I'll have clients that literally want to come to me every year. They're like, oh, I see a spot. It's time to get microblading. Oh, I see a spot. And that's just not realistic. Okay.
Amy Brown
But that was me. I would do that. I'd be like, I see a spot. And now I think I've altered that, too. So what do you mean by openness and airiness? Because I think I know, because I feel like that's where I'm headed with it. But I want to know what you're seeing with it.
Megan Pearson
So if you think about, okay, the reason that microblading in these, you know, strokes look real is because they look like hair strokes. They have negative space in between them. So that openness, that airiness, if you were to put a stroke, stroke, stroke right beside each other, right on top of each other, like, it's going to look like a railroad, or it's just going to look like a blob. Like, it's not even going to look like strokes anymore. So I like to leave a little bit of Open space between them. I like for them to be a little more, you know, staggered and not so uniform. You know, I tell everyone it looks fantastic for days that you are going to the gym or people who are, you know, if you're at the beach or a pool and you're not wearing makeup, it looks great. It doesn't look over saturated or overdone. But then at the end of the day, if you are wearing makeup, like, if you are going and do something, it takes two seconds to put powder in it because you already have this great guideline. So it's like you can have. You can have both. You know, you can have, like, really natural, you know, brows, or you can have more, you know, made up kind of glam brows. But if you. If you do the over saturation and the glam brows, you know, you tattoo that on every day, like, that is what you're stuck with, you know, 24 7. So, yeah, so I like to leave them just open and airy.
Amy Brown
Okay. I think I'm excited about my brow rebrand.
Megan Pearson
Oh, I am too. Honestly, I really excited.
Amy Brown
I'm glad we talked about this coming up. I'll keep you all posted on the process. But I know so many people that have listened have come to you for brows or even their breasts. So I want you to touch on the passion side of your work. I know you're passionate about both, but being able to give women confidence back if they have lost their breasts because of breast cancer, just share a little bit of that. Just in case there's one person that needs to know your info, your number, or they have a BFF or a sister that needs to be calling you to be able to get that confidence back.
Megan Pearson
Yes. Yes. Oh, I love it. That is where my heart is. I love brows. I love it. But I'd always seen the areolas and been like, oh, I'm gonna do that one day. You know, you just put it in your back pocket and you think about it. But I'm busy doing all my other things. You know, I. That was the last thing that I thought I had time for at the moment. My dad, he did pass away from colon cancer. So I've had, you know, my dad and my mom both affected with. With cancer. And it's just. I know you have.
Amy Brown
Well, in March is colon cancer awareness.
Megan Pearson
Oh, yeah.
Amy Brown
So we're coming up on that. And I think I'm glad you mentioned that, because if you see any symptoms, book an appointment, because early detection is everything with colon cancer.
Megan Pearson
And that. Yeah, that was what happened? Unfortunately, with my dad, he found out it was, you know, stage four, and he's. That, you know, he's never went to the doctor, never complained. You know, just little workhorse, just did his own thing. And so he had little things he saw, but he just never, never did it. Never got colonoscopies, any of that stuff. And unfortunately, he found out. Yeah, we found out around New Year's one year, and then it was stage four, and by the next April, he had passed. So he had two chemos and unfortunately, his body just was too far gone.
Amy Brown
Well, I feel like you sharing that now and then with March being right around the corner, people are going to start seeing more, which is great, but awareness is everything. So in March, I hope that people are just inundated with facts and information, because your dad being an older man, that's who people used to think would just get it. Yeah, it was just older men, but it is happening to younger.
Megan Pearson
Yes.
Amy Brown
And younger and younger people. And women.
Megan Pearson
Yeah, too.
Amy Brown
So I think I saw a stat that's like 1 in 24 people are going to be diagnosed with colon cancer. So that's just one of those things that if you can catch it early, if you have any of the symptoms and maybe you're even being told it could be something else, like, oh, maybe it's a hemorrhoid, or just get a second opinion or listen to your gut and make sure that you advocate for yourself, because this is one of those cancers that, yeah, if you catch it early, your survival rate is very high. If you don't, or if you ignore something or you go too long, then that's when it gets deadly. Which you unfortunately had to walk through with your dad. So you went through that with him. And then your mom had breast cancer. Yes.
Megan Pearson
Fast forward three years later. Yeah, my mom was diagnosed with stage three breast cancer and she felt a lump, you know, as she. She had checked herself and felt it one day. And my mom's a nurse and, yeah, it was crazy. My daughter was one and, you know, had my business. And then my mom ended up coming and living with me. So I kind of was responsible for making sure that she had, you know, had her little friends on a chat list and would make sure someone would come check on her and do all the things. And, you know, we got her to all of her appointments. But just personally seeing what someone goes through, I mean, it's awful. It's. It's brutal. And you always think that, you know, you're. You see people go through it or you hear people go through it, you know, through the grapevine, but when it's actually your life, like seeing my mom. And my mom is strong, you know, she had six kids. She. She did all the right things. My mom never. Never drank, never smoked, you know, breastfed us all. All the things that, you know, supposedly you. You know, your rate, your odds of getting cancer less. But, yeah, she. She got it, and it was pretty brutal. But, yeah, seeing her come out on the other side was amazing. And I'll never forget, you know, she had kind of would tell me that she. She felt like Frankenstein, and I helped her out with everything except for, like, the. Like, the drains and the stitches and that kind of part. I get really woozy with, with that kind of stuff, so I couldn't do much of that, so I hadn't really seen her yet. And then one day, my daughter had run into the bathroom when she got. And it was the first time that I had seen her, you know, without her breast and, you know, with. With her stitches out and stuff. And, you know, it was. It was hard. You know, that wasn't even my body. And, I mean, I had to go upstairs and cry just because I remember, like, you know, it's hard seeing someone you think so strong, you know, look like that. So I. I can't imagine what's going through her brain, you know, looking and seeing herself like that every single day. And so, yeah, after that, I start. I went, like. I started researching all the trainings, and I was like, you know, this is it. You know, it is time. Like, mom is on the other side of her journey. Like, I am ready to go and find training and get certified. And it was like, you know, it was totally, you know, God or universe, whatever you believe in. A training was going on that next month in Nashville, you know, which there wasn't a lot of trainings around, so this. This girl from Texas was coming and training people, and so I went and got trained, and it just been a ongoing thing, and it just. I feel like it's one of those things that brows. They make me feel so happy, and, you know, I feel fulfilled. I love my job. Like, I love doing all aspects of my job, but when I get to do areolas, it truly makes me feel like I am, you know, impacting the world in such a positive way. And, like, you know, I'm helping fight for my mom and my dad and, you know, all those things. We usually cry. They see their. You know, I've got a big mirror, and they stand up and look in the mirror when we're done, and they start crying. And then I'm a baby, and I can't see people cry without crying, so I start crying. I'm surprised I haven't cried yet, honestly, talking about all this, but. And, yeah, so it just. It's. It's amazing. It feels good. It feels good to restore. It feels good to be on the happy part of people's journeys, you know, because it's. It is a journey. And so when I can be a part of them, feeling more complete and more themselves, then I. I'm just. I'm lucky that I get to do it.
Amy Brown
I like that word. Complete.
Megan Pearson
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Brown
You being a part of that. Well, I feel like we could talk and talk and talk and talk, and we've talked about a lot of different things, from our ketamine to the brows, and then your personal experience with cancer and how that shifted what you even do professionally. And I know we teased that we may talk about lips, which we didn't get into. So why don't you just share quickly what that is that you do and then where people can find you.
Megan Pearson
Okay.
Amy Brown
Yeah. Ye.
Megan Pearson
Yeah. So lip blushing is amazing. I used to kind of think that, you know, a lot of my, like, older clients, I mean, and I mean by older, I mean, like 70 and up, you know, clients would come in and want lipstick tattooed on, but that is not what it is at all. As we age the border around your lips, it kind of just starts to dissipate. You look washed out. Some people feel like their lips are the same color as their skin, and they'll go and get filler. Great. Not knocking filler. Filler's fantastic. But you can plump your lips up until the cows come home, but if you don't have any color on them, you don't see your lips, you know, So a lot of people won't like their lips even with filler, unless they have lipstick on. So what I do is I go and, like, very naturally and gently tattoo lip color on your lips. And so I do the whole thing. I do the outline as well as the inside. I don't just do line or anything. And everything I do, I want it to be as natural and beautiful as I can. Like, truly, that, like, oh, I just happen to wake up with perfect lips and eyebrows. You know, that that's my goal. So, yeah, I just tattoo it in a nice, natural color. People can bring in colors that they really love. If you wear every day, I usually like to stick with like, a, you know, Pinky or, you know, maybe add mauve or some wine or berry to it. You know, kind of change up the color that way. But I like it to just be soft and natural and it really just enhances your lips and gives them that pop and, you know, same thing like with the brows. It's like if you're at the gym or the beach, you just happen to have really beautiful natural. You know, like if you like little girls or something, you have just like that perfect, like, lip color. Like, that is what we're going for. Just like perfect lips that you just naturally happen to have and. And brows. So lip blushing is fantastic on its own. And then with filler, it is 100% like peanut butter and jelly. Like you absolutely need them both. I love it.
Amy Brown
Where can people find you in case they're curious about the brows, the blushing or the areola?
Megan Pearson
Yeah, so my website is www.www.are we aging ourselves?
Amy Brown
I still do that sometimes, too.
Megan Pearson
Let me talk to you. You can find me on MySpace, but.
Amy Brown
Sorry, your top 10.
Megan Pearson
Sorry, Beauty by Megan. M-E-E-G-E-N.com. please don't take that out because it does. I'm almost 40, so.
Amy Brown
Oh, yeah, no, we're leaving it in.
Megan Pearson
It was awesome.
Amy Brown
I loved watching you www so yeah, beautybymegan.com and then your Instagram is same thing except for there's periods like beauty.by. megan.
Megan Pearson
Yes. I hate the period. But there's another Beauty by Megan out there and with the same the E.
Amy Brown
E G E. Yeah.
Megan Pearson
E E G E N. Yeah. And a lot of times people, they're, they'll hear me and they'll still type in M E E G A N. So just M E E G E N. So you can find me on my Instagram or my website and.
Amy Brown
Or MySpace.
Megan Pearson
Or MySpace.
Amy Brown
Yeah, of course she's available. Well, thank you, Megan for coming by. It's always good to see you. And I will be booking my appointments in the next few months or so. We'll see.
Megan Pearson
I can't wait.
Amy Brown
Bye.
Megan Pearson
Bye.
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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – Episode "AMY: Beauty, Healing and Resilience with Meegen Pearson"
Host: Amy Brown
Guest: Meegen Pearson, Owner of Beauty by Megan, specializing in microblading and areola reconstruction for breast cancer patients
Release Date: February 27, 2025
The episode kicks off with Amy Brown welcoming returning guest Meegen Pearson, the proprietor of Beauty by Megan. Known for her expertise in microblading brows and her compassionate work with breast cancer survivors, Meegen shares her journey and the pivotal role her family’s battle with cancer has played in shaping her passion.
Notable Quote:
[01:50] Amy Brown: “Megan has come on the podcast before. She is Beauty by Megan Pearson. So if you have been a loyal listener for years, you have heard her before...”
Amy discusses her recent decision to stop using Botox, which has led to noticeable changes in her forehead and brows. She expresses her need for Meegen’s expertise to devise a new beauty regimen that accommodates her evolving facial structure.
Notable Quotes:
[02:51] Amy Brown: “I've got to walk you through my whole new situation with my brows and how my forehead shape is changing because I'm not getting Botox right now and we need to come up with a plan.”
[26:34] Amy Brown: “I've stopped the Botox and my brows are changing...”
The conversation delves into Amy and Meegen’s personal experiences with ketamine therapy, a treatment they pursued for managing anxiety and enhancing mental resilience. They emphasize the importance of professional administration and set intentions before therapy sessions.
Notable Quotes:
[04:26] Meegen Pearson: “...I just felt like I was really disconnected from like my childhood and the things from my past...”
[09:02] Amy Brown: “I was wrecking my nervous system before I even do this, because I fear that I'm going to do it wrong.”
Both Amy and Meegen recount profound emotional releases during their ketamine sessions. Meegen describes a vivid visualization where she reconnects with her childhood self, leading to a significant emotional catharsis and physical relief from chronic pain.
Notable Quotes:
[07:46] Amy Brown: “She does either, you know, if you are religious and you want a prayer... she reads it to you.”
[16:14] Meegen Pearson: “I had four experiences like that. My first session alone...”
Transitioning back to beauty and self-image, Amy and Meegen discuss the critical role of brows and makeup in boosting confidence. They explore techniques like microblading and lip blushing, emphasizing their impact on daily self-esteem and professional presence.
Notable Quotes:
[26:34] Amy Brown: “Why is it that as the Botox is dissolving in my forehead now, my brows are changing?”
[34:01] Meegen Pearson: “...I love brows. I love it. But I'd always seen the areolas and been like, oh, I'm gonna do that one day...”
Meegen passionately shares her specialized services in areola reconstruction for breast cancer survivors. She reflects on her personal loss—her father’s battle with colon cancer and her mother’s breast cancer diagnosis—and how these experiences fueled her mission to restore a sense of wholeness and confidence in her clients.
Notable Quotes:
[43:42] Meegen Pearson: “...when I can be a part of them, feeling more complete and more themselves, then I... I'm just lucky that I get to do it.”
[44:07] Amy Brown: “...March is colon cancer awareness...”
The hosts discuss the concept of "dopamine dressing," highlighting how personal style and small self-care rituals can significantly enhance mood and mental health. They share anecdotes about their favorite outfits and how dressing in a way that makes them feel good impacts their daily lives.
Notable Quotes:
[36:07] Amy Brown: “I feel confident and it's your dopamine dressing.”
[36:21] Meegen Pearson: “I have got them in every color now. And like, I walk around my house...”
As the episode winds down, Amy outlines her plans to undergo a pico laser procedure to remove her microbladed brows, followed by a renewed session with Meegen to redefine her brow shape. Meegen expresses her enthusiasm for Amy’s brow rebrand and reiterates her commitment to enhancing her clients’ confidence through her services.
Notable Quotes:
[40:40] Amy Brown: “Now, I can do that with my brows fully intact if I take a shower or bath once I get my new session with you.”
[43:42] Amy Brown: “So two things can be true. It doesn't matter? Not totally. But does it also help me in life and make me more confident and save me time?”
For listeners interested in Meegen Pearson’s services, she can be found at beautybymegan.com and on Instagram @beauty.by.megan. Her platforms offer more information about her microblading, lip blushing, and areola reconstruction services.
Notable Quotes:
[51:18] Meegen Pearson: “You can find me on my Instagram or my website...”
[51:59] Amy Brown: “...beautybymegan.com and then your Instagram is same thing except for there's periods like beauty.by.megan.”
This episode of The Bobby Bones Show provides an intimate look into Meegen Pearson’s journey of healing and resilience through beauty practices and mental health therapies. The heartfelt discussions underline the profound connection between self-care, appearance, and emotional well-being, offering listeners both inspiration and practical insights.
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