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If you ever have feelings and you just want some, maybe a cat got you covered like a number. Ladies and fellas, we just follow in.
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The spirit where it tell us from the real stuff to the Chill stuff and the in between.
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Sometimes the best thing you can do.
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Is just stop and feel things.
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This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.
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Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat and we've got our feelings of the day. I'll start. Because mine is more of a question with a feeling because I'm curious. My feeling is curious about what you would do if you saw something in someone's teeth but you didn't really know them that well. Let me give you the scenario. So I'm at my house and I just chopped up the salad and I was eating it and then these workers came. They weren't going to do the work at my house, but they were coming to sort of assess the situation and plan out, I guess, how they were going to do whatever. So three guys, three at my door, and I walk around my house with them for at least 15 minutes and then they leave. And I look in the mirror and I have a big piece of lettuce right here on my tooth. Nobody told me. And I'm like, okay, and here's the. What we need in this room. And then over in this bathroom. This is broken. Da, da, da. And I'm sure, I'm just like, you know. And now all three, I'm sure they walked out and they're like, do you.
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See that lettuce in her teeth? So, like, there's no way they didn't see it.
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There's no way they didn't see it. I'm talking about dark leafy green.
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Okay. It wasn't like iceberg.
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No, not, dang it. A light piece of romaine. No, we're talking like mixed greens. The purple one.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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And you were probably really smiley too, because you're really friendly.
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Well, yeah, And I think that one of them made some, like, joke at some point. And then I was like, oh, yeah. Haha. And then he. And so I definitely. Yes, yes. Like, the vibe was good. Like, I'm like, oh, I like these guys. I'm glad. I mean, I've actually worked with them before, but I hadn't seen them in a little bit. So it was sort of like, hey, how's it going? I'm sure I was like, how are you? And I have the lettuce right in my tooth.
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So what would you do?
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Well, I guess I'm like, well, yeah, what would I do? Would I just know that it was there the whole time and she's just at home? Like, say I see it in somebody else's teeth. And I'm at their house. I'm like, she's not out in public. We're not at home. I don't want to embarrass her. Be awkward being like, oh, you have something in your teeth. But I still would like to know. So I guess I've debated what I would do and would I say anything. And I guess if I was being hired by somebody and I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable, then I'm just not going to say anything. But. But now I'm also uncomfortable knowing that I had it the whole time and they didn't say anything.
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I think the hope there is is that they don't say anything. They don't have to address it. And you drink some water and flush that out before you see it, and then nobody knows.
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That's the hope. I think that is. Nailed it. That is the ideal situation.
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However, it's not what happened.
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I have a mirror in my kitchen and walked by it whenever they left and saw it, and I thought, oh, my goodness. Well, that was fun. And, you know, I have a boyfriend. It's fine. It's not like I was interested in one of the guys, thank God. Well, one of them was kind of cute. Oh, but whatever.
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She's a boyfriend.
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Cryo cat. Cryo cat's single. She's like, did you get his number? I mean, I have his number. He's doing work at my house. Hopefully he doesn't listen to this. Hopefully he does.
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Yeah, hopefully he does listen, because then we have more male listeners. And then he next time can be like, you know, we should have addressed it. And I'm sorry. I thought I was doing the right thing. And apparently, like, I've learned something. Thank you for talking about it and spreading awareness.
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I'm picturing, like, contractors when they're at work. Like, what they're listening to is likely not feeling like, hey, bud, so what you're feeling of today, that was me, like, spitting, you know, because, like, you know, like, I'm just picturing, like, people working in be like. Like, they're dipping like a toot noise. So my feeling of the day is gassy.
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I was thinking. You're just thinking contractors are just partying around.
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No, no, they're hard workers. Like, they're working hard. And I just picture them being, like, all, like, you know, busting out their tools and being like, man, I'm just feeling confused and grateful because, you know, two feelings can be true at the same time. So maybe they are listening. Hey, guys, next time, tell Me that I have spinach or lettuce or whatever in my teeth or whatever it is. It could be a chia seed. I don't know.
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Ah, chia seeds. Chia seeds. Oh, my gosh.
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I can't. You know what? You were so right about 100%. And we're gonna get to your feeling of the day in a minute. Cause I'm also curious about that, because I know you have a whole story that I've been waiting to hear, you know, update on your personal life. Yeah, it's big. Feel like it's big.
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It is big. But I want you to say this, because I need the validation.
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Kat needs the validation. I, Amy, admit to you, Kat, that in our protein balls, which is our first cooking show ever, that we uploaded, our first of two, we have two cooking shows. We have homemade pasta and protein balls. Yeah, they're both chef's kiss. Is that what they say?
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Yeah, except this.
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But you're up there, so I noticed, because I've been making. I. I pull up our post anytime I need the recipe. It's not that hard. You think I should have it memorized, but I just. I get nervous. I want to make sure that I've got everything right. And I know we omitted the chia seeds out of the video. I think I deleted that part out of the video because it's part of the recipe. But while we're doing the video, Kat's like, I really think we should leave the chia seeds out. And I'm like, no, it's fine. We'll leave the chia seeds in. So we do, and we make the balls for the video, and then we have to eat those, and they have the chia seeds in them, and they are getting stuck in my teeth left and right, and they are so annoying. That's what. That's what you said they would be. And I was like, no, no, no chia seeds for life. Like, I'm keeping them in. Well, I deleted out of the video. But if you go down to the recipe part, which is in the caption, I still have chia seeds in there. So I actually need to go in and edit it and delete it, because we don't need to send people down that path, cause emotional distress picking chia seeds out of their teeth.
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The only time you should be eating that chia seed is if you're home and nobody's gonna come over for a while, and you're eating by yourself and you can brush your teeth after because those pesky little fellas.
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That is What? They. That's exactly what they should be called. They should be renamed Pesky Little Fellas.
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Wait, we could have a brand of chia seeds called Pesky Little Fellas, but.
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Pesky little people aren't gonna buy lfs. But, like, why. Why would. We wouldn't be the worst salespeople ever. Because we'd be like, buyer uplift. But we don't even.
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Why are they called that? And, like, because they're annoying. I'm like, well. And I don't want them.
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Well, if you blend, they are. They do serve a purpose, and they can be good for you.
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They're great for you.
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So you can blend them in a smoothie, and you'll never have them stuck in your teeth.
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Like, you have to really blend that smoothie, though.
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Yeah, but I think once you do. Or. Yeah, they're Pesky Little suckers.
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They're not just fellas, they're little suckers.
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Yeah. Pls.
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Yeah. I used to eat. Well, I do make those to eat in between, like, therapy sessions, but when I made a batch with chia seeds, I had to not eat them at those times of the day because I had 10 minutes to eat that and then, like, go rinse my mouth out.
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Oh, yeah. And, like, you're with a client and you sit down. I'd be so distracted if I was in a therapy session and my therapist had chia seeds in her teeth.
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So you would say something.
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I guess. I really don't know what I would do till I'm exactly in that situation. I. I would like to think I always lean. Just tell them because someone would rather know. But, like, also, the chia seeds, you can kind of feel okay. One time in the car, I got one stuck, and I had no other way, and I had, like, dig in my bag for a piece of paper, and then get the paper and, like, dig the chia seed out. So we. We've omitted it from our protein balls. Go make them, because they are so good. I've been making double batches. In fact, my boyfriend's kids. Like, the last time I made them, I made a double batch for my house and then for his house, and he took them home, and he put them in a bag that night. The next day, by 1pm he's like, they're all gone. They've eaten them all. And I'm like, well, now I'm going to need to do triple batch, which. Which is a compliment to our protein balls.
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You made that batch.
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And so I highly recommend people make those. And then I. I Do need to do everybody a favor and I need to go into the cuz I know to admit omit it. But if other people are just now finding that recipe and they're like, oh, I want to try these, and they're doing the chia seeds and they're going to be annoyed with us because I'm like, oh, these pesky little suckers. Now they're stuck in my teeth. But protein balls are legit. That's one way we're getting extra protein. I'm also getting protein through my profi protein coffee.
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Profy profee I like better.
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I use my vanilla almond milk and I mix it in with my coffee and it's my little latte with 25 grams of protein. Not just any protein. High quality isopure protein.
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I'm glad that we're talking about this because my favorite breakfast is a sesame bagel with butter. How many r of protein are in that?
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I don't think any.
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None. But now that you're saying this, I can have my bagel and. And I can have my profi.
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Yes, listeners, they can do it too. We have a code feel20. You can try it for yourself@isopureprotein.com boom. You pop in feel20 code at checkout and you're going to save 20% unflavored. That is very key whey protein in here. Creamy vanilla is legit. Like, I can add that into smoothies and oatmeal, no problem. It's good.
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That's a game changer because you add the vanilla and it just adds a little extra, like, umph.
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You're gonna think I'm crazy. But also, in my oatmeal, I will sprinkle sea salt on top.
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What?
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I don't know. I just love salty sweet.
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I'm gonna go get a profit and a bagel. Would you like one profit Proffee?
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All right, now to your feeling of the day.
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Okay, this isn't that crazy, but also it feels crazy that I did this. I feel relief because I did an adult thing today and I have changed my last name.
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I feel like I need to put my profi profi. I need to put it down and I need to clap for you.
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Thanks, guys.
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That's probably one of the more annoying things. Like you. There are women out there that have been married for 5, 10, 15 years that have wanted to. Now, some women, they don't want to do it. That's fine. Respect. Others, they have wanted to do it and they just haven't found it in them. And I would like to say you have a disadvantage. You have adhd.
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I know. And I'm. Thank you for acknowledging.
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We need to acknowledge your.
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Where you are. Yeah.
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I don't know why I went low. Adhd. I could still go high. Yeah, we need to acknowledge. But wherever the normal brain is, that would just be like, I need to go change my name. So I shall set up an appointment and go change my name. Like, that's not us. So thank you.
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And I probably.
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How. How long have you been married?
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A year and a half.
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Perfect. I feel like that's solid. Very, very reasonable.
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I probably did it in a really bad time, but I was like, I have the appointment. I'm already planning to go. I've already talked myself into going. I have to do it. But I'm also in the midst of selling and buying a new house. So I'm sure that makes the paperwork a little bit confusing because my ID and my Social Security name now don't match. Because here's the thing. I could go on about this, and I'm sure you could, too. I'm sure any woman who has changed her name could go on about this. You don't just go to the Social Security office and change your name. You do that. You fill something out online. Then you go there. You have an appointment, but you still have to wait an hour and a half, even though the appointment actually takes all of three minutes. You do that. They give you a piece of paper. You can do anything else until you have that. Then you have to get a new driver's license. Then you have to get another appointment that you have to probably hours of your life. Then you have to get a new passport. I don't think that takes hours of your life, but it's expensive. Then you have to change all your bank accounts. Then I have to change my professional license. Then I have to, like, change my. The. My cars in this name. My. This is in this name. Like, everything. It's like there's a million things to do, and it's hours and hours and hours. And I'm like, what can we make men do that is equal to this? Because I don't get it.
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Oh, yeah, we got the short end of the stick on this one for sure.
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I think that your husband should have to go with you to every appointment. Yeah, well, technically, he is paying for it.
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Well, if you have combined accounts, some couples keep everything separate. Yeah, he doesn't have to do anything.
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Like, I also have a lot of anxiety, and I do not love going to New Places where I don't know what it's going to be like. So I was texting somebody who has done this and I was like, okay, what do you do when you get there? Like, are they scary? Like, what do you sit somewhere?
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Like snacks?
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Yeah. I just wanted to know what I was getting myself into. And if you are going to Nashville, I will let you know. It's really simple. You just go in through a door, you check in on your phone, you sit there and wait until they call your name. It wasn't bad, but that was part of why I haven't gone. Also because I'm like, oh, this feels scary, but if my husband went with me, I wouldn't have that fear. Awkward moments are not awkward as much when you're with somebody else.
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Yeah. Like when you have a buddy.
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Yeah. Which also makes me think I'm having like a squirrel thought. When you go to a friend's house, like you've never been to their house before, do you get nervous?
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When you go to a friend's house, like you've never been to their house before, do you get nervous?
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What? Like nervous about what? Like, like I'm the lay of the land.
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Yes. Like if I'm going.
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So you're like where's the bathroom? Where are the exits?
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No, not so much that, but, like, am I gonna go knock on the right door? Oh, like, a lot of times when I go to somebody's house for the first time, I'll text them, be like, I'm here, just making sure this is the right place before I go knock on their door. Because, oh, my gosh, can you imagine? Knock, knock, knock. And it's like, somebody's grandma.
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Like, you're at the wrong house, not your friend's grandma. I don't know. I'm trying to think. The last time I went somewhere new, like, a house that was new. Cryo Cat just brought up. We went to our friend Jen's house one day to lay out the pool, and she was already laying out at her pool. And her house is rather. How shall I put it? Large and beautiful. And, yeah, I think I was a little intimidated, but because it was a big house, down to earth. I think it depends on, like, for me, it's not just any house. I think it just depends on who I'm meeting because she. But she's so cool and down to earth. It felt comfortable. So I'm trying to think of anytime I felt awkward or uncomfortable going to someone's house. I guess I just don't now I don't have that feeling like you do.
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You know what I love?
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Okay, What?
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When you're going to a party somewhere and they have balloons on the mailbox, that's helpful. So shout out if anybody is planning a shower or a party for anything. If you're inviting a large amount of people, one of those people is probably nervous about coming and nervous about going to the wrong door. So if you just put a little sign or something so they know I appreciate balloons on.
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If it's difficult to find, like, any corner leading up to the event. Like, I like signs with arrows and balloons because that's really good for my brain. Because looking at a map, I do get nervous. But I love when it's like, oh, left here where the balloons are. And then you'll see more balloons to turn right. And then you'll see the house that's got balloons. That's legit. But that definitely takes thought and time and planning. And I don't really know what kind of party I'm going to that has that. But I know that I've had that situation before. Like a wedding. Like a.
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The backyard wedding reception.
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Reception. Boom.
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Yeah.
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That has been, like, out somewhere that's not easy to navigate. And then you have balloons that Guide you so legit.
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Yeah.
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It's like I could just have that on a Tuesday going to somebody's house.
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You didn't go to my. I don't think you were at my wedding shower, were you? You would. Yeah. You would.
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No, because I would remember. I know where it was. I can't remember why I couldn't go. Unless it's so that you didn't invite me.
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You were in my wedding.
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I'm just kidding. I know. I don't. I could. I don't think I could make it. I don't remember wisely a reason. It wasn't like just nobody don't feel like wasn't like, eh.
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My sister in law and my brother live on a farm, so their house was really difficult to get to you literally why People were like driving down. There was a bunch of cows in the middle of the road that they had to like honk at. It was like a welcoming committee.
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I would have loved that.
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You actually would have loved it. It was cute. Well, up close, cows, because they smell and there's a lot of flies around them.
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It's fine.
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Anyway, I think she had to put a balloon on the mailbox because you literally turn and you just turn into a farm versus like a house. So people like that. I think she knows to do that. But I'm saying even if your house is on a very normal street and the house number is very clear, still balloons might help your anxious friends.
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Yeah. So keep that in mind.
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And maybe the Social Security office should put the balloons on the front of their doors.
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Yeah. Like you're here, you're at the right place.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of becoming a wife and you changing your name to Patrick's last name.
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Yeah.
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Like he got you as a wife and then you went and did all this awesome stuff for him today to like be a Van Buren.
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Yes.
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With him.
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Yeah.
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Like he didn't have to go do all this work and be a Dafata.
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No.
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And isn't that interesting that you grew up with Dafata and then you married into Van Buren. Like you have cool last names.
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Either way, I will say I had a hard time deciding do I drop dead or do I drop my middle name.
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That was something that I considered with my mom too. And I ended up keeping my mom did her maiden was Christopher and on her license it said Judy Christopher Moffatt. And so I followed suit like she did and I did Amy Moffat Brown. And then eventually I went back and I changed it because I missed the Elizabeth because I love my middle name. So I'm just saying I had it Moffat Brown for a while, and you changed it. And then I changed it to Elizabeth.
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Interesting. So I kept my middle name because it's the same thing. Like, I love my middle name, and it was my grandma's name, and I just like, like having that. And I almost kept Defata, too, but that was like. That's so annoying. Catherine Mary Defada Van Buren.
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Like, what if you hyphenated Catherine Defada Van Buren.
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Well, so, you know, we've been reading Family of Liars. Their names. Was. Was it hyphenated? They just had a double S name. They had Taft, Sinclair. All of the daughters. Were they kept.
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Yeah, Good question. I guess. I don't know why it's that way.
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I assumed because both families were prominent.
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Yeah.
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You know, so I'm like, I could have. And also, Patrick, why didn't we have the conversation that you would also keep my name?
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Yeah. Why is he not Patrick Van Beer and Defada? If you hyphenate, let me ask you first. Yeah. Which one goes first?
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The Father Van Buren sounds.
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I know. I guess you can choose which way you want to hyphenate it, but probably more times than not.
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Just a mouthful.
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Yeah. You think? Yes. Catherine Defata Van Buren is a lot.
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I told you my name that my mom called me when I was younger. Right.
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I'm trying to remember it right now. I know. You told me. We had it on air. We had a whole thing. Of course I don't remember it because it was long. Katherine, Brittany, Denise, Linda, Dafada. Get your butt in here.
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Yes. Catherine, Mary Elizabeth Francis, Sally Britney Defata. So what if it was Katherine, Mary Elizabeth Francis, Sally, Brittany, Dafata Van Buren.
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Bam. What if it.
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I went to the Social Security office, and they're like, what would you like to change your name to? And I was like, well, Catherine, Mary Elizabeth Francis. What would they say? I mean.
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I mean, they would think that you were a little cuckoo. They can't stop me for Cocoa Puffs for sure.
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Well, maybe.
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I mean, I guess they. Yeah, they can't stop you. But, like, Chad, Ocho, Cinco, whatever. That football player, he kept changing his name to stuff.
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Really?
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Huh. I don't know. Yeah. Meta World Peace. Like, lots of different names. I think it's really, really funny that you're, like, casually. Do you remember what it was almost like you were testing me and it's like 10 names, but I got.
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You can't remember.
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Yeah, I know. I really wanted to try. And then once you started Doing it. I was like, there's no way I would ever remember that one.
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Maybe one day a real friend would.
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I'll surprise you. Okay, tell me it again.
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Well, you're going to have this on video. You can go back and watch. But Catherine Mary.
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Because that's how I spend my free time.
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Watching your own video.
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I cringe.
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Catherine Mary Elizabeth. That should be easy.
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Catherine Mary Elizabeth. Because it's mine. Okay.
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Francis Francis Sally.
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Sally Britney, Jesse Raphael.
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I was thinking too.
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Okay, well, you are a wife, right? To Patrick. Yes, obviously I am. And to anybody else that is listening, that is a wife. I was a wife. I'm no longer one.
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Well, you may be one in the future.
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I might be one. And I shall be a gift. Because that is what we are. I saw this entire article about how a wife is the cheat code to life, life. So men, find yourself one.
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Okay, I want to hear why so I can.
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Okay. Married men outperform single men across the country in nearly every category. Married men have higher income, 10 to 40% more than single peers. That's a huge 10 to 40 higher. Okay, yeah, I get that. The huge difference. But still, even if it's just 10% higher, that can be a lot.
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Yeah.
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Lower risk of depression with a wife, better physical and mental health, greater career stability, longer lifespan, more productive, less likely to engage in risky behavior.
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I'm keeping my husband safe.
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Uh huh. So wives multiply everything. Because a good wife doesn't just support, she multiplies. She multiplies your efforts, your discipline, your legacy. Basically, in a nutshell, it's saying men expand when they have women. And I'm sure we probably expand too. But like I think we're already pretty awesome. They go on to say that for a woman, her intuition is unmatched and men often lack that. So then when you've got a good wife, a good partner in that, and then she also can be your mirror, she can show your blind spots not to shame you, but to shape you.
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As you're saying this, I'm like, yes, companionship, that, like relationship, that would elevate. The more we have close relationships, the better that we are in life, whether that's a spouse or not. But I bet this is different for men. I haven't read this research article. That's where this came from. But my assumption would be because men struggle so much to have vulnerable, deep connection, like when they're with the guys. I mean, I feel like this is a tale as old as time joke right now. Like, my husband will come home and be like, so and so is getting married. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, how did they propose? I don't know. I didn't ask. Like, is he excited? I don't know. I didn't ask. What's the girl's name? I don't know. I didn't ask. I'm like, so he just said, I'm getting married. And you just said, okay. Like, they don't have these where girls are like, oh my gosh, tell me everything. How are you feeling? They just don't have the opportunity to connect the same way. Which is also shows up in how they're supported too. Like, I think Patrick has a great group of friends that are very supportive, but the support I give him is a deeper, emotional, more, I think, all encompassing kind of support. So that's probably why this is different for men than women, because we already have that as women with our female friendships, but men lack that. And so we come in and fill that. That can be very exhausting because women are doing it for women and now they're doing it for men. And very exciting.
B
I love that. Thank you for that perspective. Licensed therapist Katherine Dafata Van Buren.
A
Mary Van Buren.
B
Sorry, Catherine. Mary Van Buren.
A
Do you think it would be weird if I went by Catherine Mary?
B
No. Even though Mary Katherine, I would feel like it was more of a southern thing, like, for you to have like two names.
A
But it's supposed to be Mary Catherine.
B
True. But I would just think, oh, look at her. She likes to do things opposite.
A
She's unique.
B
Unique New York. Unique New York. How now brown cow. How now brown cow. We've been made to believe that saying yes is a good thing. But I've realized there's a big difference between doing it intentionally and doing it unintentionally. Isopure protein helps you focus on more of what matters, like feeling your best every day with great tasting nutrition. That's high protein and also low carb. If you need that. Isopure fits seamlessly into your lifestyle, and that's why I've added it to my daily routine. I use Isopure unflavored protein in recipes like pasta sauce and guacamole during the week. With 25 grams of ultra filtered protein and zero carbs. Perfect. Plus 20 vitamins and minerals, you can boost nearly any recipe without changing the taste of your favorite foods. I've already restocked four times because I add the Isopure unflavored to everything. You can try the Isopure vanilla to blend 25 grams of protein into your smoothies or your oatmeal. Or check out Isopure Clear protein water with 15 grams of protein, which supports hydration with electrolytes and a light berry flavor. Enjoy more of what matters today@isopureprotein.com and get 20% off your order when you use code FEEL20 at checkout. All right, parents, let's talk snacks. Because if you've got kids, you know how important snacks are. Even if you don't have kids, snacks are still important. You always kind of need a grab and go, like something that's going to be good for you. And if getting out the door with kids looks anything like my house, well, someone's always running the car with one shoe on, someone's asking where their water bottle is, and someone's inevitably always hungry. But we need to leave so we can't really deal with that. That's why I love having Mott's no sugar added applesauce pouches around because they're made with real apples, which I love. No sugar added. And the pouch, it's a total game changer. It's mess free, portable, it fits in lunchboxes, backpacks. It's also a snack that's a good source of vitamin C and kids actually want to eat it. I know this because my kids actually want to eat it. Just the other day my son had a couple of friends over and they were sitting in the back seat and I'm driving them around and I threw some in the front seat of my car because I knew, okay, these boys, they're always hungry and they were so excited when I tossed one back to each of them. Mott's real apples make real good applesauce. Learn more@mottz.com all right, in our house, a top pick for back to school lunches is Boar's Head. It makes packing lunch so easy because my kids don't complain and their lunch boxes come home empty, which is huge. We're big fans of the Maple Honey ham. They love that it's got the perfect hint of sweetness. My fridge is never without it. And their American cheese. It's a great combo. On some days though, we keep it simple with a sandwich and other days we may mix it up, throw in some oven gold turkey or ever roast chicken for wraps or snack boxes. However I use it, Boar's Head just tastes better. Boar's Head has been dedicated to crafting premium deli meats and cheeses for more than 120 years. Premium whole cuts of Beef, pork and poultry salad. Spices sourced from around the globe. Boar's Head uses only the finest ingredients and time honored recipes. Preparing every product with the utmost care. So if you want to level up your deli game this school year, check out the Boar's Head counter at your local deli. You'll taste the craftsmanship in every bite. Boar's Head committed to craft since 1905. Have you tried Alex Cooper's unwell drinks?
A
No.
B
Me neither.
A
I was going to say you haven't.
B
Either, but I thought about buying one at Target the other day. Target? Yeah, they're a target.
A
Why did I say it like that?
B
I don't know, but they are there and I saw it and the only thing that stopped me is I really wanted to drink it. Like I needed something to drink and I wanted it then like I wanted it.
A
There's nothing else?
B
Well, no, there was, so I ended up getting just water.
A
Have you watched her documentary yet?
B
I have.
A
Okay.
B
I liked it.
A
Okay.
B
I thought it was good. I learned a lot about her. I haven't listen to her but I thought the documentary being that I didn't know much about her, I. I was very intrigued and very impressed. Very, very impressed.
A
I think she's a likable person. But for anybody who doesn't know about like the rebrand of Call Daddy.
B
Yeah. Because I never make her so much.
A
More relatable and likable and I think I might not listen every week, but there are a lot of episodes I listen to. Speaking of, I just listened to when I was telling you about Renee rapping. Didn't really know much about her. She's so cool.
B
Okay, I'm gonna have to go check out that cuz you. I don't think I know who she is.
A
She's like unapologetically herself. But not in a like I was about to say insufferable way. I don't know, I just liked her. I was drawn.
B
She's like in an authentic way. Cuz I think sometimes people are trying to be unapologetically themselves and then it's like feels off.
A
I think there's probably some things that her PR team is like. Oh no, but it's working well.
B
Yeah. Yeah, is what it is.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't even know Alexis Earl.
A
You know it's not her name.
B
What's her name? Alex Earl.
A
Alex Earl Cooper. That's why.
B
Okay.
A
So crazy.
B
Alexis.
A
No, it's Alex A L I X.
B
Okay. Maybe that's why I just know what I see on social media. Because I haven't followed a lot. I don't listen to their podcast and I don't. I don't even. Not even an Alex Earl fan. I just know that she is evidently from the get go, who coined the Get Ready with me videos.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
And that's how that sort of started. And I know she's huge and made a name for herself and has crazy brand deals and whatnot, but I guess she started a podcast under Alex Cooper's Unwell and then.
A
And it was.
B
Now it's called. It's called okay, and now they're done. So Dunzo. Like, what? That's the tea I want. And I don't even know. But I would like to understand what happened because I think just as you know, and then Alex Cooper, her original co host on Call Her Daddy, they did not end on good terms.
A
They must not have Sib.
B
Yeah. If they just had little s. Like, hey, Sib.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, I think they need.
A
They need Siv. I am really curious because I was like, deep in the Sophia and Alex breakup thing. I was so interested in that because.
B
It was the original co host. I call her Daddy. Okay.
A
And oh, gosh, that is a bummer for her.
B
See, I only knew about her because of the documentary.
A
Okay? So, like, I didn't listen to Call Her Daddy back then because that's. It was very different.
B
By different, you mean like very sexual and vulgar.
A
Not my vibe.
B
But also she. That's a marketing genius. Like, she knows what she's doing.
A
And I was watching her documentary and I was like, dang, if I could be more like her, that would be awesome because that would make me. I mean, who knows? I'm sure there's other people have tried to do that and they didn't get 60 million dollar deals, but I would never. And like, I don't have those. Some of those stories to talk about anyway. But also, like, her, like, family and stuff, like, would listen and like go to her shows.
B
And I know her dad's like, in the audience. I think her parents are super cute and I guess I like the way they can be open about that sort of stuff. And it's like a safe space.
A
Yeah.
B
And it seems like. But her grandma and her mom, like, they raised them like, let's talk about everything. So she obviously felt comfortable doing that. But yeah, I don't think I could ever talk about those things.
A
I mean, I think also as a therapist and as a professional person, I couldn't probably do the things that she was doing. I would think not Just talking about, like, sex and stuff. But I mean, she just was a character online doing funny, crazy things. And you do it until it works. I'm sure a lot of people were like, she's so weird. But, like, look at her now, right?
B
And I mean, there's stuff she'd had to shift because even with hr, she's like, oh, oh, you know, probably shouldn't be advising people to do xyz. And she's had to mature and grow and evolve and she has.
A
Yeah. Anyway, when her and Alex got together, it felt like it was like, gonna be this cute, like, mentorship thing, because I think Alex is in her early 20s. Alex. Alex. Earl is in her early 20s. Alex Cooper is, I think, 30, 31 ish. So I was like, oh, this is gonna be so cool that they can mentor each other. So I've been trying to do a little sleuthing, but couldn't tell you one thing. I have some ideas, but they're not rooted in anything, so it would be kind of gossipy just to share them. But I think both of them are going to probably capitalize on that story at some point.
B
It's just when there are multiple podcast duos that have just split without, like, who explanation, I just see the drama unfolding online. I don't know them because I don't listen, but it just makes me think, like, I'm glad we have a solid foundation and relationship that will what if one day, like, or me, but I snapped, or you just. One of us just disappears and we.
A
Don'T talk about it. Like, how do we address it?
B
I mean, I get certain things being private. Like, I've had certain relationships that have ended and what has unfolded is private. I'm talking about relationships that are in a work relationship that is very public together, like a podcast. Let's just leave podcasts as the only example of what I'm talking about, because that's actually these relationships I'm talking about online. And it's weird how it sucks you in because some of them I click on TMZ or this article or this thread about what. And I don't know these people at all. And next thing you know, 20 minutes has passed and I'm trying to figure out, like, why their podcast broke up and why they hate each other and.
A
But what happened. Interesting that you're more. You weren't interested in their podcast. You might not have even known about it, but you are interested about the drama of the podcast.
B
Maybe it's just that I want to figure out what happens. So then maybe I can make sure, like, I don't want this to happen to us, which I don't think it will. But I wonder what that. Because I don't deep dive on every quote unquote breakup. But I guess something about the podcast splits I find interesting.
A
Should we brand.
B
Can you say there's another one that. Who's Dax's.
A
Oh, my gosh, yes. Okay. Well, I think there's way more to this. So Liz Plank was a co host on the Man Enough podcast, which was a really good podcast hosted by her, Justin Baldoni, and another guy named Jamie Heath, which I know a lot of people have feelings about all of that. And then she also had a podcast. We need a family chart. Dax Shepard and Monica have expert. Monica had a podcast with Liz Plank called, like, Cycle Sinking or something like that. And it was on the Armchair Expert feed that went away. I think Dax Shepard got a new deal somewhere, and that podcast went away. And then Monica and Liz are no longer friends. And then Liz also left Man Enough. And I think Man Enough just collapsed because of all of the drama happening with him and Blake Lively. So I'm just curious, like, what happened with Monica because they were best friends and had this really seemingly fun relationship, and what happened with Justin Baldoni, because Liz hasn't said anything about it, which.
B
I think is okay, because I've had things in my life I'm not gonna say anything about, and I think it's out of respect for the other person, so I can appreciate that. So while I am still curious, and that's sort of the theme of this episode, because I was curious if you would tell me if I have lettuce in my teeth. And I'm curious now if you should hyphenate your name or not. And then I'm curious about some of these podcast breakups, but also I respect that it's none of my business if we don't get all the details. And it's like, okay, fine, I may never know. And it's not like I spend.
A
Yeah. It's not living.
B
It's not living rent free. Like, some things in my mind do. Like, where is Amy Bradley? But, you know, still don't know. But I respect it because people ask me about things in my life that I'm just not gonna address. I'm just not gonna.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's out of respect. I guess I shouldn't use the word never ever, ever. But at this point, I'm not. And if I ever did, it would be from my perspective. And my perspective only and not, you know, what I think to hurt anybody.
A
I hear what you're saying. And this. That's different. I think I have to, like, get ready to say this. It's not that big of a deal.
B
Let me get ready.
A
I think that a lot of people who are not speaking about certain things, a lot of people are not speaking about things because it's respect. It's their privacy, it's them having boundaries. I think other people don't say things because they're waiting for the best moment to share some big news. Like, there was Sheena Shea. I do love Interpub Rules RIP to that cast. But she just recently came out with. And this is like, I haven't read the article. I just read the headlines. But like, her, I guess, husband cheated on her while she was pregnant, but she didn't share that information while it would have been, like, more pressing on the show, which could have created a whole storyline on the show because I think it's when the whole Sandoval thing happened. So she's like, I have this big bomb. I don't want to let that fizzle if this other thing is going to take over. Right. So I have to find a better time. So she waits two years and then she shares it. Now, this is me speculating, but, like, that's an example where people might not be sharing things just because they're waiting for the right time. So we just have to be patient so they can profit off of sharing their personal information, which they should.
B
Or sometimes people. Yes, like, there was that bomb, you're saying, but, like, there could be a book deal. And like this, Their. Their book is coming out and they're gonna put it in the book, which I could see waiting to save it to put in the book. And then now it comes out.
A
I think it's smart. I'm saying that, like, not as a bad thing. I'm saying, like, that's smart. Like, sometimes we just have to be patient because, like, if they're gonna share this part of their life that's so personal, which I don't know that I would let them make some money off of it.
B
Let them. Let them. Shoot. Oh, my gosh. I don't think I told you this. On the Bobby Bones Show, Ray read Chat, GPT wrote obituaries for the main cast of the show.
A
Wait, that is so dark.
B
So morbid. Right? But whatever. It was also entertaining. Okay, so they wrote it for Bobby, Me, Lunchbox, and Eddie. So four obituaries. And Ray read them and ChatGPT ended mine with something like, I can't remember exactly, but like, everybody that attended the funeral got like a Choose Joy bracelet and like a let them tattoo or something. I'm paraphrasing, but it ended with Let them. And I was like, no, no, no, no, Let them. I, I, I yelled that on the, during the segment. Like, I. And with no explanation. Like, no. Like, we have a whole deep dive on Mel Robbins Let them theory. And now I'm, you know, let them Let them is okay in certain circumstances, but I'm not an overall let them theory girl.
A
That's interesting.
B
I know. Maybe, but maybe because it pulls things from and because we have maybe the Let them theory deep dive, then maybe it associates that with Amy Brown. And so then they're like, you know, because it had the Choose Joy in there and it had like that I was gonna have what are the essential oils at my funeral. And, you know, I put essential oils on my dryer balls.
A
Oh, yes.
B
So, like things that I've said or things that are out there. It pulled. That was funny.
A
You're gonna have a Choose Joy bracelet. And it depends hat.
B
Yes, that depends. Choose joy. But not always, because maybe you don't.
A
Need to choose joy when it's appropriate. And it depends when that is going to be. That's what I'll say.
B
The whole thing with pimping joy and my mom wasn't. It was more that my mom was spreading joy and then choosing joy of herself, but also leaning into the hard moments. Like for my mom, pimp and joy was Nehemiah 8:10, which was the joy of the Lord is my strength. So I'm going to have joy and I'm going to spread joy. And she would just talk to everybody at the hospital. That's why when Walker Hayes wrote the Joy Like Judy song about pimpinjoy for my mom, he put the line in there that was stood out to him the most was that he was like, she even be talking to people in the elevators. Because my mom, who talks to people in the elevators, and especially when you're on your way to trip, like you're feeling horrible and blah and you're going in for chemo. I mean, my mom felt like total crap. And she would make it a point to be like, oh, I love your scarf, or you have a pretty sweater or how long have you been coming here? Like, she would make conversations just especially to the people that were there alone. Because some people, my mom never went to a treatment alone. And we would see people There all the time alone. And that's got to be hard. So anyway, that's pimp and joy. Spread joy. All the joy. Maybe we serve profi.
A
Oh, God. You got it. We serve Prof. Say it with a English accent.
B
Profi. That's a profi.
A
Okay.
B
Protein coffee. It's delectable. You just take the coffee and you take a little milk. I prefer unsweetened vanilla almond milk with a scoop of unflavored isopure protein. It'll give you 25 grams of high quality protein. Like, why is everything more fun in a British accent?
A
Why is everything sound better in a British accent?
B
Like it sounds more credible. I mean, I'm credible. Like, I use isopure protein. Like, I'm credible. I'm credible when I. British meat. Doesn't it sound more like delicate? Elevated.
A
Sounds elevated.
B
Like it makes you want to try it, doesn't it?
A
I think.
B
Do you want to put it in your oatmeal?
A
You mean my protmeal?
B
Oh, yes, your oatmeal with protein. I forgot Prote meal. Ooh, how about creamy vanilla?
A
Say creamy.
B
Creamy. Creamy. How do you crem it? Crema Vanilla.
A
I think that English people sound more.
B
Yeah, well, Americans also. I'm watching the Gilded Age right now, and that's obviously.
A
You've been watching that for years.
B
I have. The new season's back. Oh, it's like season four, I think so. The way they spoke. I mean, this is New York society, and I love the way they speak everything.
A
Thou shalt not.
B
Indeed.
A
Oh.
B
Oh, indeed. Oh, take a seat. You must be famished.
A
I'm like, oh, dang.
B
Like, dang, I'm starving. Anybody got some isopure protein? And then. But it's like, oh, do you want some Isopure?
A
Would you like some coffee?
B
Yeah. And. Oh, guess what, Cat?
A
What?
B
We have a code. The code is FEEL20. Oh, feel20. At checkout.
A
Is there a word that you wish you said in your vocabulary?
B
What do you mean?
A
Like a elevated word that you want to integrate into your.
B
Oh, like I said, like a word I just.
A
Yes. Like, if you're like, I want to start saying famish instead of this, or I want to say, like.
B
Well, I sort of just started using it today.
A
Coffee.
B
Delectable.
A
Oh.
B
Fantastic.
A
No, fantastic is not like a.
B
Well, what are you, the word police?
A
I don't.
B
What, do you have one?
A
No, but I think that.
B
So delicious.
A
I think you use that word. I. I just have been thinking. I listen to a lot of audiobooks and I'M like, I want to start reading them because I don't think I take it in as much of the, like, the new habits. Yes. And I want. Sometimes I think that I just like am grabbing for a word that I don't have in my head yet and I need more words.
B
So you want to be a thesaurus?
A
Yes.
B
Yes. Me too. I was real proud of my son the other day. And I don't know why, but I guess I know why, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised, right? I don't want to be like, wow, a new word today. Because he's going to be 15. So it's like, wow. But when they do need. Maybe it's because English is their second language.
A
Yeah.
B
When they do use new words, I find myself being like, hey, all right. I mean, I try not to like make a huge. I just low key, like in my.
A
Mouth some emergency confetti.
B
But my son was asking me a question about cancer and because like, both my mom and my dad had it. And then he said, well, so if somebody else in your family has it, which this is a conversation we have never had before, and he's using this word, you'll hear it in a second. And I'm just like, where would he have picked up on that? Because I don't know that it's a word that he would have learned in school unless they've talked about it. Anyway, here it is. So he just looked at me and he said, so does that mean that you're going to be more prone to get cancer? And in my mind, I was like, he just used prone. Like, I, I was just really impressed by that because I don't know that that's a word that gets used a lot. And it's. We don't talk about that in our home. I mean, he knows that my parents had it, but I've never been like. That means I might be more prone or susceptible.
A
Or maybe it was.
B
I was impressed.
A
Maybe it was his prone. Prone. Maybe it was his school's word of the week. Because when I was in middle school, we had the word wizard. And the word wizard would come on the announcements every Monday in a wizard costume and share with us my word.
B
Okay.
A
It was our assistant principal.
B
I am gonna ask him if they have a word of the week. But I was just. I loved that he used the word prone. So to your point, we could do that with ourselves. Like maybe be our own little word wizards and give ourselves new words to use. And then. Haven't we done that before? Like on here, we did the word.
A
Of the week on the fifth thing. We did it like twice. But we would pick words that were, like, not good. They just weren't, like, beautiful.
B
What did you say?
A
Delicious. Your word of the week is delicious. Its definition is. It tastes good.
B
Oh, exquisite.
A
Good word.
B
Cryo, Cat.
A
Exquisite. You have exquisite?
B
Yes.
A
This proffee is delicious. You must have exquisite taste.
B
There you go.
A
That was really hard for me to say.
B
I feel like you're reminding me of Parent Trap. Lindsay Lohan's character. That's British. You sounded like that. You know, because she. She's playing both the American.
A
You know the difference I see between me and you? What?
B
Oh, you what?
A
I have class and you don't. I feel like I just sounded like not the parent Trap. She had a cute voice.
B
That is such a cute movie. Parent Trap. I love that. And Lindsay Lohan, like, talk about comeback. Like, she just is. Was doing a bunch of press for the Freaky Friday. New Freaky Friday movie. And I'm like, yay. I'm celebrating that. That comeback. Like, Lindsay Lohan seems to be doing really well. She lives in Dubai.
A
Yeah.
B
Did you know that?
A
Yeah. And her husband is, like one of the wealthiest men.
B
Oh, really? I guess I didn't know that part. I just saw her talking about how she lives in Dubai and it's great because taking pictures of people there, like celebrities or just normal people, is illegal.
A
Really?
B
She can't. You can't pull out your phone and start recording somebody doing anything. Okay, well, we hope that you're having the day that you need to have. And if there's any takeaway from this episode, it is stay curious and drink your profi. And drink your coffee. And don't forget to use our code. Feel 20, feel 20. Isopure protein.com. we should say English isopureprotein.com and that link will be in the show notes. But really, if you want to join us in trying this and upping your protein.
A
Woo.
B
Like us. Woo.
A
Subscribe. Oh, you were saying like us.
B
Like, not. Not like and subscribe. I mean, we're trying to be.
A
Yeah.
B
So intentional about our intake.
A
Yeah.
B
Our consumption.
A
Good word.
B
Yeah. Which is like every word. I could do this. I just have to stop and think, like, what's the elevated word of eat? Consumption.
A
Consume.
B
Consume.
A
I consumed some chicken for dinner.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. We'll work on this.
B
Okay. All right, Cat, until next time.
A
I hope you have the day you need to have.
B
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Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show (Feeling Things with Amy and Kat)
Date: August 31, 2025
Hosts: Amy Brown and Kat
Episode Focus: Staying curious in daily life, personal growth and changes, the social complexities of simple etiquette (like telling someone about food in their teeth), navigating adulthood milestones (like changing your name after marriage), protein coffee ("proffee"), reflections on friendships and podcast drama, and a playful language upgrade.
This episode centers on Amy and Kat's appreciation for curiosity—being open to life's awkward moments and changes, big or small. Through lighthearted personal stories, the women discuss everything from social dilemmas and nutrition habits to significant life changes (like Kat finally changing her last name after marriage), with a recurring emphasis on self-awareness, female friendship, and making the best of transitional moments. The show is warm, chatty, and often veers into the hilariously relatable.
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[19:09]–[22:23]
[22:31]–[23:42]
[26:03]–[29:10]
[33:13]–[41:08]
[41:39]–[43:10]
[45:12]–[46:16]
[47:02]–[52:07]
Light, friendly, sometimes goofy, but with thoughtful asides on modern womanhood, mental health, and self-improvement. Amy and Kat weave humor with sincerity, allowing for both deep insights and playful tangents (like fake British accents).
Closing Note:
"If there's any takeaway from this episode, it is stay curious and drink your proffee." — Amy ([53:01])