Amy (2:55)

1 Behind the Scenes with a member of the show.

Morgan (3:00)

Welcome to the weekend. Amy joins me. Thanks for coming on, Amy. Glad to be back. We got some things to talk about this weekend. Now, you haven't been on Best Mints since you shared the big news. So how are you feeling?

Amy (3:13)

Yeah, I feel okay. I feel better than, I mean, time helps with everything. So it has been a little bit. So I'm feeling better.

Morgan (3:25)

And in case anybody missed it, I don't want to just say big notes with nothing, but Amy and her boyfriend broke up. It's been a couple of weeks since you shared, but you haven't been on Best Bits. We haven't got to really, like have a moment to talk about it. But I'm glad you're feeling good and time does heal.

Amy (3:40)

Yes, I'm, you know, after being with someone for a year and a half, it's, it just feels different and I don't really know what will happen. I'm just trying to focus on myself and the kids and have seen him and gone to sporting events and we're cordial. Everything is good. Like, it was very, I don't know the word. I think I said on the show like it was just a really healthy breakup.

Morgan (4:11)

Are you feeling like, what kind of things are you feeling now? Because obviously you had your divorce, you healed, you went through that whole process. Then you get in a relationship and now you're having this breakup. Like, is there. I imagine that a lot of people can relate to those feelings. So that's why I want to see if you can kind of talk to them.

Amy (4:30)

Yeah, I mean, it's very different than a divorce. For the divorce feelings after putting yourself

Morgan (4:40)

out there and you're going through that,

Amy (4:41)

I think, thankfully, because it was so, like I said, a healthy breakup and felt peaceful. And honestly, the whole relationship was good for my nervous system. It showed me that I can be in relationships. So it gives me hope whether it's with him or somebody else down the line. But I'm not. I think I was eager for that relationship because, yeah, I hadn't experienced it before. And now that I have, I'm like, okay, I'm not someone right now that is, I can't wait to get in my next relationship at all. I don't want to rush it. I think someone even commented on maybe the Instagram post that went up about our breakup. They're like, how many dads are these kids gonna have? And I was like, okay, what? I had a boyfriend. He wasn't their dad. Their dad is their dad. I mean, well, technically if they're saying that, then three, because they have their biological dad who has never been in their life at all whatsoever. And then they have their adopted dad, which is my ex husband and he is very much their everyday dad. And then they have their dad has a girlfriend and she plays a role in their life. And then I had a boyfriend and he played a role in their life and he actually still communicates with them and they'll send texts or if they. They've got questions. And he ran a lot of track and has trained like he did track in college. And yes, that was a long time ago, but he gets the gist of how to train and to run and to run fast. Like I don't know how to train a runner. And yes, Stevenson has track coaches and I think someone said, let his dad do that. Okay, well, his dad is helping him with that. But you have someone that track has literally took up a huge chunk of their life and, and they can help. So I love that Stevenson can go to him and say, you know, do you have any tips for this? Or he can just take it upon himself to say, don't forget what I taught you about doing this when you're running and how you pace yourself. And I love that you guys are

Morgan (6:45)

still communicating because I also imagine having kids in the mix just adds another punch to all of that. You can't just totally clean break and say bye, never again.

Amy (6:53)

No. And in some people's situations, they might need to do that. In our situation, we didn't. And it was important to us that we didn't just disappear out of the kids lives. And I understand that may not be the case for everybody. And of course that may have an expiration date if somebody else gets into a relationship. I get that. But neither one of us are quickly trying to move on and that's just not at the top of my list of things to do. And oh, what I was also going to say is we, even though they were involved, he was involved in my kid's life. So we. It wasn't everyday stuff, like nobody was living together. He wasn't taking on a dad role. Of course he would be there for the kids if they Needed anything. But same thing with his kids. I had a. I had boundaries at times. Like, I wasn't their mom, and if we advanced in our relationship, I might take on more of a role. But I tried to respect the fact that I wasn't and that the same time, Alex would respect the fact that he's not their dad, so. Yeah. Well.

Morgan (7:58)

And people on the Internet always have a one skewed view of a situation versus the entire scope of a relationship. Right. So.

Amy (8:04)

And I'm not, like, taking my kids around, just introducing them to random men,

Morgan (8:09)

like, here's my son. How do you feel about.

Amy (8:11)

No, like, so. I mean, that part. When you have kids involved, it definitely is an extra layer that makes it challenging. And, you know, you want to consider all everyone's feelings. And then as the adults, you have to make the one that's best for you. And in that moment, that's what was best for us. I don't know what time will tell, but I'm being patient, and I'm open to whatever may happen down the line, but nothing is. I know for certain that that's just not my main focus right now at all. And I'm feeling really great about that.

Morgan (8:46)

It's a fun place to be in. In your life when it isn't your focus.

Amy (8:49)

Yeah.

Morgan (8:50)

And you get to enjoy other parts to it, whether it's your career, whether it's being a mom, whether it's just living alone, having. Yeah. Having friendships, finding new hobbies. There is a freedom that comes with that of just getting to enjoy your own company. So maybe you're in that era right now where you're really starting to feel comfortable in that solitude.

Amy (9:14)

Yeah.

Morgan (9:14)

Which is fun.

Amy (9:15)

Yeah. I don't have a problem in my being alone right now. I don't feel lonely. That may not always be the case, but right now I'm feeling good. So that's where we are. And to anyone else that may be in a similar situation, it's. It's. It's not easy. Especially after you've gone through a divorce and then you find somebody, and it's been a year and a half, so you think, oh, this is clearly Lulu 1. And we always knew all along we're not gonna keep dating if we don't think this is gonna work, because we have other variables. Yeah.

Morgan (9:50)

You were intentionally dating, which also adds more to it. When you're fun dating, learning who you are, learning what you like, there's a different layer of seriousness that comes. But at this point in your life with kids and There is involvement. And you're older, you understand that. Oh, this date. I'm not dating you just to have fun. Like, this is not funsies. No, you're dating for an intentional reason. So that just makes things a little bit more complex than they would be a typical dating situation. So that's why I wanted you to speak on it, because you have a different, like, perspective. Me talking about my dating was so different. I had never been married. I was again, learning who I was, learning what I wanted. It was a different type of dating. You're in a different part of your life dating, and people can relate to that.

Amy (10:37)

Yeah. And I think you may be in a different situation. Like, you might be how I. You might be where I'm feeling with it, but you might be like one of my friends who's also divorced and she likes to go out all the time and she wants to meet guys, and she was trying to get me the other weekend to go out, and I was like, that's just not what I want to go do. And she's like, oh, come on, we need to go. I met these guys and we can go out with them. And I'm like, that's not what I want to do. Are you hearing me?

Morgan (11:05)

This is not for me.

Amy (11:06)

It's not for me. And she's in that season, and I think that's great and that I may get there, but that's just not where I am. And so I think we're at this

Morgan (11:16)

weird age going out to go and meet people at bars.

Amy (11:19)

Well, I don't even. I don't even know that I would say she's going out to bars more like there's like, she's going out with groups of people to like, oh, we're going to go do this dinner, or we're going to go to the. I don't know if you heard of, like, the Tornado Room. It's like a small place in Leapers Fork. Like, it's. But she's going with a group and she was like, oh, and these three guys, they're gonna be there. It's not like she's going out just to meet guys, but she has met people while she's going out and she wants to go out to dinner all the time, and she just wants to be out. Because if you're out, you have more of a chance. But it's not like she's hitting the bars. I guess I should clarify what out in your 40s means versus maybe out out younger.

Morgan (12:01)

But, oh, I could totally see you Doing that, then the dinners and.

Amy (12:05)

Yeah, but that's not even what what I want to do. And I'm having to really listen to that and then just understand that, yeah, some of my single friends were going to be in different phases of single. That's just, I guess, the best way to put it. Yeah, some singles are ready to go out and open to meeting. And I saw, too, if you are into that. There was this one. I don't know if it was a matchmaker or something, but all these things are showing up because, well, my friends have been sending me matchmakers in my DMs. And so it pops up on my algorithm now. And she was giving a tip of, if you want to go out, you need to leave the house and get out of the car. Of like, this is going to be the best night ever. I am going to have the best time no matter what it is. And that will be more likely to result in you having a good time and you potentially meeting somebody than sort of going out and being like, oh, I'm not feeling that great. I'm not that confident. Like, this sucks. I hate having to go out to meet people. Like, if you enter the. The evening with that attitude, you're less likely to have the energy that's going to draw the attention of somebody. But if you get out of the car and be like, I feel great, even if you're playing a little mind game with yourself, you may have more success.

Morgan (13:23)

I had a matchmaker come on my podcast, and when I was talking to her, she said, date or just live your life like you're on vacation. Because everybody, when they're on vacation is a different person. Right.

Amy (13:33)

Well, that's the thing. Like, I just need to, like, somehow bottle up how I feel on vacation. It comes more naturally. Because when you're on vacation, it's true. I go out more. I want to go out to eat. I want to do all the things. I want to get dressed up.

Morgan (13:47)

But when you're home, you don't feel that way. So that's why she was like, you have to start treating it like you're getting vacation mode back into you. So she described it as that. So maybe that's how you have to.

Amy (13:58)

It's a good way to put it. But that's not where I'm fine with not being in.

Morgan (14:01)

You're like, I don't want to be in vacation mode. I want to be on my couch enjoying solitude and having fun.

Amy (14:06)

But that will be a good reminder for me to have when I do get the urge to do that. Cause I'm sure that time will come. It's just not where I am right now. It's not a priority.

Morgan (14:15)

Well. And it's okay if you never get there either, though. It's okay. You might meet somebody in a totally unique way that isn't any of those. That's the coolest part about it is we never know how we're gonna eventually meet that person. Life has a funny way of working things out. So you may never have to leave your couch. Some people have met people from deliveries on their porch or doordash. Yeah. You never know what you might run. So life happens in funny ways, but if you don't, that's okay.

Amy (14:40)

Yeah.

Morgan (14:41)

But I enjoy it. Well, thank you for the update. I needed to know how you were headspace where you were at. We don't get to talk a lot of girl chat on the show sometimes. So I wanted to check in on you.

Amy (14:50)

Thank you. How you're doing. All right.

Morgan (14:52)

We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. Talk about some some fun topics here.

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Morgan (18:02)

Speaking of just taking different life patterns, things like that. So all of this Artemis 2 stuff, when they went up, they circled the moon, they came back down, had me in kind of a different headspace where I was thinking, huh, I could have just like changed my whole trajectory. Go back to school, study science, learn to be a pilot, and I could go to space. Like I had this moment where I was like, maybe I just need to rewrite my entire plan for the next 30 years. Do you ever have those moments where you just want to rewrite everything and try something different?

Amy (18:29)

No.

Morgan (18:30)

You don't ever. You just stay on the one path.

Amy (18:34)

I like where I am. Well, career wise, I don't. I. It fills my cup. I like what I get to do. I mean, I'm trying to add some different things to my plate and remove certain things that don't necessarily fill my cup. So that sort of changes. Like, ugh, I'm not really getting joy from this, but I think the filling cup thing matches more because there's some stuff I can do that's part of my work. And I was explaining it to someone that I'm working with on a small project and she put it to me that way of like, oh, it just sounds like that's not really filling your cup anymore and this other thing might fill it more. And I was like, yes, that's exactly it. Like I can do it. And it's fine, but I'm not. I'm walking away more drained from it than I am full. So I would like to shift that because. But I have to do it with intention because, I mean, it's a job. So I can't just like walk away or it's money. I can't just walk away. I mean, some people might be able to. I'm not in a position where I can just walk away. So I have to shift some things around. So I guess that's what I'm doing. And I'll share more about it later when I have it figured out and done. But I am shifting some things in what I do and how I diversify my income. Like we have the Bobby Bones show, but we have a lot of other side projects that we do that bring in money. And I'm trying to shift some of those around because some are not bringing me joy and I think others will. So I'm trying to create more opportunities for the other, but I don't have them yet. Okay, so this is exciting. I know it's not directly answering your question, but my big umbrella of what I do. I'm not trying to change. I have. I don't think about swapping that out for some other life other than maybe not having to work at all and just getting to stay home. But then I don't know that I would like that either. I don't know. But some days you're just over it. I think everybody feels that way. Maybe, maybe not. But I am trying to move some things about and it's going to take time and I'm having to be patient. But I'm trying to do it well. Like I've. I'm the person I'm working with. Like, I've hired her to help me do it well. And so. So I'm investing back into myself. But then I. I think it'll end up making me more money down the line. So I just have to believe that that's what's going to happen. But it may take a minute.

Morgan (20:59)

So that is a. You are changing some things. Yeah, but you're doing it under the sun.

Amy (21:03)

But big umbrella. I'm not like leaving what I do to go be. Change my major and go back to school and be. Since go to the moon.

Morgan (21:11)

I know it is like a. It was like a random. I think it's in the days that I have the most stress when I just am like, maybe if I just become an astronaut, I can go to space and it'll be a cool Experience in my life. But then I started thinking about the logistics of all of that and it's

Amy (21:27)

probably not going to happen.

Morgan (21:27)

No, I get really overwhelmed by that, so. And it's hard because much like you said, I love what we do. I love the. The parts of it that, you know, get. You get a lot of joy out of. It's the mundane that makes it harder, but everything comes with it. The mundane side, you have that in everything that you do. So I think that's where I'm. I just am trying to be more in the present moment. But watching them do the whole space thing, getting to, like, have our first female astronaut, and that whole experience really was like, why didn't I further explore my love for space and trying to become an astronaut?

Amy (22:00)

Female astronaut. To the moon.

Morgan (22:01)

Yeah, yeah, to the moon. Sorry, I'm not talking about the Katy Perry one.

Amy (22:05)

The.

Morgan (22:05)

What is that group? That went well.

Amy (22:07)

But there were other female astronauts.

Morgan (22:10)

Yes, yeah, to the moon that circled around the moon. I've got to be on the. On that specific mission. Yes, yes. We have some on the iss, the International Space Station. But no, that, like in the idea of if they continue that and we land on Mars and we do stuff on Mars and we explore other planets, like all that's so fascinating to me.

Amy (22:30)

But I like watching some of this stuff, but I don't have. I have zero desire to go myself. That seems scary.

Morgan (22:35)

Really?

Amy (22:35)

Yeah.

Morgan (22:35)

If you got a chance today to go to space, you won't.

Amy (22:38)

Nope. Nope.

Morgan (22:41)

See, and that's where I am so curious about what that all looks like.

Amy (22:44)

That's not worth, like, the. I don't know the odds of dying on that, but it would terrify me to go up in a rocket. I just would feel like I was going to explode or something. And then speaking of stress, being in space is very stressful on the body.

Morgan (23:02)

Yeah.

Amy (23:02)

So I'm good. I know it would give me a wonderful perspective and probably so school. So cool. But the fear I have inside of me is larger than the desire I have to do that, which that's like, I just don't. I don't like roller coasters. I don't like heights. So space is very scary to me.

Morgan (23:21)

So you're not a very adventurous person. I would say, like an adrenaline junkie is not part of you.

Amy (23:27)

No, no.

Morgan (23:29)

That is where we differ, Amy. Yeah, I have those sides. Not fully, but I do have some. And I think if somebody offered me a chance to go to space today, I think I would go.

Amy (23:36)

Yeah.

Morgan (23:37)

And just good for You.

Amy (23:38)

That's awesome.

Morgan (23:38)

All bets are off. Yeah, but that's why where I think that desire comes from. But I also think there's so much normalcy in experiencing the world that we are right now. And you just have moments where you just. Life frustrates you and you want to just rewrite everything because it just is frustrating. I think that's where I get moments of right now.

Amy (23:58)

Yeah.

Morgan (23:58)

Maybe that's because I'm really into my 30s now. Am I having a midlife crisis? Does that really happen at 30?

Amy (24:04)

No, I don't think you're having a midlife crisis. I think you're having like occasional thoughts or sometimes you're like, oh, okay, just make this all change a little bit to make it more interesting or you know, different.

Morgan (24:15)

But spice up your life.

Amy (24:17)

Yeah, no, you're about, you're embarking on new adventures. You're about to get married. You're not having a midlife crisis.

Morgan (24:23)

I know, but do you, I mean, do you have a midlife crisis? Is that real?

Amy (24:26)

Some people do. I think they call. I think that's a generalization for what happens with some people. Like you picture a middle aged man leaving his wife for a younger woman and buying a sports car and it's like, ah, midlife crisis. But I think it can show up in a lot of different ways. Not just that.

Morgan (24:43)

Yeah, that's just the one. We've been just the stereotype.

Amy (24:46)

Yeah. Maybe I do think buy a sports

Morgan (24:49)

car and get married and then, I don't know, then I'll have half of the two.

Amy (24:54)

Right. Well, it might fulfill. Yeah. Sports car driving fast, your adrenaline, like, I don't know, that's what my former father in law, like he was a fighter pilot and loved to fly, obviously. And you're going so fast that when he got out of the Air Force and he wasn't flying as much, he got a mo, he got a Harley, got a motorcycle, he loved to go ride. He wanted to be, you know, out on the road. And then that became really dangerous for him as he got older and he ended up selling it and he was like, that would be crazy for me to be out riding right now and lost a friend that was riding his Harley and got in an accident and died. So I think that woke him up of like, I don't need to be chasing this right anymore. But like I would never, I don't, I have zero desire to get on a motorcycle. I. And that's on the ground. So it doesn't even have to be space. Like I don't want to be on a motorcycle. I don't want to be on an atv. I don't. I don't want to be. I don't go to the bottom of the ocean. It's not just up, it's down. Like the people that went down to look at the Titanic and then they died, I would not go. I don't want to get on a submarine. Nothing. I don't want to do that.

Morgan (26:08)

I'm sensing the theme here.

Amy (26:09)

I want to scuba diving.

Morgan (26:11)

All of the scene. All of those things sound so much fun to me. I barely want it to be right.

Amy (26:16)

I literally wanted to go snorkel.

Morgan (26:18)

You don't even go that far under. More snorkeling. You just stick your head on top of the water.

Amy (26:22)

It's cool. You see cool things. But I'm like, okay, been there, done that. I'm actually shocked. I went skydiving, but that was a 30th birthday thing and lunchbox. And I went. And so it was a celebratory, like, hey, I'm turning 30. I'm gonna go do this thing that I never thought I would do, and I won't ever do it again.

Morgan (26:40)

See? And that's something that's on my list. That might be the only thing that actually terrifies me is skydiving.

Amy (26:45)

But you want to go to space. Yeah, because skydiving is just 13,000ft.

Morgan (26:48)

Yes, but you're in a rocket, you

Amy (26:50)

know, and rocket seems scarier to me than some little airplane that's going to go see.

Morgan (26:56)

Little airplane, and then you jump out of it. You're in the atmosphere, not protected. You're just. Your whole body is on the air. But all of that, everything you just mentioned, I would go do. I just. I don't know. And it's not like I don't have a desire if I. I also love sitting on my couch. But I do have a desire to just go and do things and try them. But I do like to go fast. Like, there was one time I was riding a jet ski with my dad, and he let me drive. I was really young, and I decided to go really fast, and I threw him off, and he was not very happy with me.

Amy (27:25)

Like, I'm the lamest jet skier ever. I go so slow. Really?

Morgan (27:29)

You like, cautionary. You're just coasting instead of actually riding?

Amy (27:33)

Yeah.

Morgan (27:34)

What about riding a horse? Would you ride a horse?

Amy (27:36)

Yeah, but I just not very fast.

Morgan (27:39)

Just slow. Yeah, just a walking horse.

Amy (27:41)

I would love to ride a horse that doesn't seem scary to me. I know that it can be, but I just need to be on a

Morgan (27:46)

tame horse wearing a helmet.

Amy (27:49)

Yeah, Maybe. Yeah.

Morgan (27:49)

Okay. I learned something new about you here in this moment. All right, we're gonna take another quick break and we'll be right back.

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Morgan (30:59)

all right, this one is funny. Have you watched Love on the Spectrum at all on Netflix?

Amy (31:03)

Bits and pieces.

Morgan (31:04)

Okay.

Amy (31:04)

I mean, I'm familiar enough.

Morgan (31:06)

So there was a couple and they recently broke up, which is why I think some of the clips have been going viral recently. I haven't watched the whole series, but Abby is the girl who's in this clip and it was funny because she was talking to her partner at the time and her mom was also there or his mom. And an awkward thing gets brought up in the conversation and she just looks at her dog and she says clementine has anal issues. And that was how she like averted the situation. And it made me start thinking about the times that, like, when have you ever used something to get out of an awkward conversation? Like, have you ever had awkward moments and how did you get out of it?

Amy (31:46)

Well, I feel like if I were to say something like that, it would make it more awkward.

Morgan (31:49)

Right? But again, Love on the Spectrum. So she's living with it. That was like a personality trait. She. That was her response. She wanted to talk about her dog instead of what. What they were talking about.

Amy (32:00)

Yeah, well, I don't know that I have a particular example where I've. But my friend was just at my house the other day and has a child on the spectrum and he said to his mom, he just went away for college and he's at a special school and like doing great there. But even for his acceptance into the college, like he was so direct and said to them, you know, there are two hundred and eight universities in the state that I could go to and this is the only one I want to be at, so you better take me. You know, And I was like, gosh,

Morgan (32:36)

to have that be so direct.

Amy (32:38)

But then he came home for Easter, and apparently all weekend held his tongue because his mom cut her hair off and didn't say anything. But then when he was leaving, he hugged her, and he's like, goodbye, I love you. And he was like, don't ever cut your hair again. It does not look good. And then he walked off, and we were just laughing at how, you know, because they've been working with him on that. I mean, but he's gonna say what he's gonna say, you know, but that they were like, God, you know, he went the whole weekend without making comment, but couldn't resist at the very end, at the very end, walking out the door and just telling it to her. Like, it was like, trust me, you do not want to ever cut your hair off again. It does not look good.

Morgan (33:23)

It's so cool to experience life through them, right? Like, they really are so direct. They're like the versions of us that haven't been tainted by everything. They're just completely themselves. And it's the coolest thing to witness.

Amy (33:38)

Growing up, there were stories, like, sometimes at church where, you know, you had to be careful because he might. If he hadn't seen you in a little bit and you even put on a little bit of weight, he would

Morgan (33:47)

tell you, that's funny.

Amy (33:49)

And he would. He'd be like, yeah. So he probably put on about, I don't know, ten pounds. And they'd be like, oh, my gosh. You know? So I haven't had an awkward, like, moment where I've made it even more awkward. I mean, I'm sure I have. I just can't recall them. I'm sure other people might be like, oh, Amy was very awkward here. But I either wasn't aware or I have blocked it from my memory.

Morgan (34:13)

And I'll tell you what, and maybe it'll make you have. Have come up with something, but I was on a date one time, and it was just not going very well at all. It was actually a date that we talked about on the show at one point, but I was there, and I was like, how. How do I get out of this without being mean, that I need to leave? And we're sitting there. It was a coffee date, and I just was like, I think I'm gonna throw up. I, like, ran to the bathroom and just kind of stood there. I didn't. I obviously wasn't going to. I just didn't know what else to

Amy (34:46)

say because there was really Wanted out of there.

Morgan (34:48)

There was no conversation happening. It was rough. It was like one of those. And I didn't have an exit planned, and I was exhausted, so I was just like, I think I'm. I think I have to throw up. And I ran away. And that was like, the last moment I came back out. I was like, I need to go home. And that gave me, like, my out. And I think about that a lot, that I just abruptly ended the conversation with that poor guy by saying, I think I need to throw up.

Amy (35:10)

He's probably wondering, what in the world happened to you.

Morgan (35:12)

Yes. And it reminded me of this moment.

Amy (35:14)

Yeah. What'd she say? My dog's anal glands. What?

Morgan (35:18)

Yeah. She's like, clementine has anal issues. So if you need to get out of an awkward situation, you can use clementine has anal issues. Or, I think I'm gonna throw up. But those are some of the ones that came to mind. Still nothing. Nothing happened.

Amy (35:32)

Nothing happened to you. Nothing. No, I know. But I'll keep that in mind that I have to throw up. One.

Morgan (35:37)

Yeah.

Amy (35:38)

It's a good one.

Morgan (35:38)

It's a good exit strategy for sure. Just, you know, if you do decide to start dating again one day, be prepared.

Amy (35:44)

I mean, I'm definitely guilty of. I just can't give an exact example, but of not. Not what you're talking about, but saying too much, like, oversharing out of the gate with people that I barely know at a social gathering, and in my internal dialogue is, shut up. Why are you sharing this with them? So I would say my equivalent to that is just sometimes sharing way too much, way too soon with people that. That do not know me like other women. Like, I'll just be talking to girls, and I'm like, well, they're not going to be friends with me anymore. Why did I just share that very personal detail?

Morgan (36:23)

Do you. Do you feel awkwardness? Like, I. I look at Lunchbox, right? He doesn't feel anything awkward. Nothing bothers him? No, he's not impacted.

Amy (36:31)

Yeah, he. No. I've gone and done stuff with him before, and nothing phases him. He does not care. He's like, who cares? Don't be embarrassed. We're. We were doing, like, a secret recording bit or something. And this dates back years ago. I always felt awkward. We used to go to Barton Creek Mall in Austin and we would record content, and he had. He had no shame. Like, he would walk right up to whomever and just. I mean. And I was mortified. Mortified.

Morgan (36:54)

But do you feel that way now or do you feel like you've gotten out of that?

Amy (36:57)

No, I was still feeling mortified.

Morgan (36:58)

Yeah.

Amy (36:58)

Started back then. And I still feel the same way, so.

Morgan (37:02)

I do. I admire that quality trait of him. I wish I didn't feel shame or embarrassment as much as I do.

Amy (37:08)

You admire when he. We're backstage and he's yelling at celebrities with, like, no shame, like, I walk away. I'm like, I am not with this person. I do not know him. I am not with him. But it to hit, I. Hey, shout out to him, though. He always gets really good video.

Morgan (37:25)

I know.

Amy (37:26)

And ends up, you know, high fiving 50 cent or. I was gonna say Diddy, but it's probably not a good example to use anymore. But somebody famous, Mariah Carey, like, fame, fame, fame. I mean, the country people, I feel like we see all the time, and they're probably like, oh, my gosh, there's lunchbox yelling. And they kind of are like, okay. But people that were famous, like, when we were kids, if he sees them now, he freaks out. And like I said, to his credit, he will get a good video out of it. But I put my head down and I'm like, I do not know him and I shouldn't. Like, who cares? We're probably never gonna see Mariah Carey again. And if we do at another work event or something, she's not gonna remember. So who cares?

Morgan (38:08)

Yep. Which is what his, like, whole theory is. And I wish I had it. I don't. I just don't. I don't. Even in normal public settings when I'm by myself without famous people, I just. I get embarrassed so easily, like, and I feel shame more often than I should from cringe.

Amy (38:23)

Cringe? Yes.

Morgan (38:24)

Cringe is the word I'm looking for. So that's one. One quality trait I admire that I do not have. That's my flaws.

Amy (38:32)

I look at it more like, good for him. That makes me happy for him. But I don't know that I want it. Like, I don't. I don't admire. Like, I want that. I wish I had that for myself. Like. Like, I think I'm good.

Morgan (38:44)

Did you know that we have lizards in Tennessee?

Amy (38:48)

I think so, yeah.

Morgan (38:49)

Yeah. Skink. Do you know what a skink is?

Amy (38:52)

I do not.

Morgan (38:53)

I learned this new amphibian. It's a version of it, of a lizard. I had a skink drop from my garage door when I opened it.

Amy (39:01)

Oh, I'll have to look it up to see if I've ever seen a skink before.

Morgan (39:05)

I bet you Have. I think we have more often skinks than we do, like, full blown lizards. Like the lizards that we would typically see. They're a little bit more slimy and quick and they come in all different colors. So you'd probably see them in your garden if you've been out doing stuff outside of your house.

Amy (39:21)

But, oh, yeah, if I saw this, it would kind of freak me out because it looks like a little snake.

Morgan (39:26)

It does.

Amy (39:26)

They're lizards. Some lizards are kind of cute, but this one is not to me at all whatsoever.

Morgan (39:32)

Well, this one fell out as I was trying to get into my garage and was then proceeding to hide behind a kennel that I had out in the garage and was just sitting there on my thing and I.

Amy (39:42)

They're good to have around, though.

Morgan (39:43)

I think they eat because I said

Amy (39:44)

they're harmless to humans and they eat insects, snails, and spiders, which. Okay, I feel like we need other spiders to eat some other things. But my house is full of stink bugs right now. But they don't. Or my back porch and in my garage. They're everywhere. The little. And. But I did not know they were stink bugs. So I was like, they don't stink. I haven't googled it yet, but evidently I was talking to a friend and I was like, oh, my gosh, these bugs are everywhere. They're like, oh, yeah, those are stink bugs. I said, but they don't smell. So I didn't think they were stink bugs. And they said, if you squash them, that is when they smell. And I was like, oh, well, I haven't squished them because. Yep, okay, that's what they are. I just googled them. Brown mammurated, stink bug. They're everywhere.

Morgan (40:27)

And I think they can also blend in. I think they can be green, brown.

Amy (40:33)

Are they camouflage? Yeah.

Morgan (40:35)

I feel like, is it okay? Because I've definitely seen them in different colors and I didn't know if that meant there's different variations of the stink bug.

Amy (40:42)

Okay. As it's. Killing a stink bug causes it to release a pungent, foul smelling chemical odor, which is primarily defense mechanism. It can linger, stain surfaces.

Morgan (40:52)

Ooh.

Amy (40:52)

So be careful. Potentially attract more stink bugs to your home. It's best to remove them gently instead of crushing them. Yeah. I have not crushed one. And I gently remove them outside. Like if they're on my screen porch, I put them out and then some of them have made their way into my house and I'm trying to get them out, but good to know. So, yeah. Stink bugs everywhere.

Morgan (41:12)

Oh, stink Bugs are crazy in the south, like Tennessee, if you go anywhere, they will. At a certain season or certain time frame, they will just be swarmed. So is that what your deck looks like right now?

Amy (41:22)

Yeah, they were. Yeah, yeah. Last night specifically up on my screened in. Like I have a screened in porch and the top of the screen, they were just crawling all over it.

Morgan (41:31)

And I don't capture my skink and bring it over to your porch to eat them.

Amy (41:36)

Yeah, well, but I feel bad. I don't want to kill them. But.

Morgan (41:39)

But that's what they do. That's what we. I have skinks and you have stink bugs. Weird names for amphibians and insects. You know what I mean? Who decided? I'm. They look at a lizard and say that's a skink. I don't know of all names. Or look at a bug and say that's a stink bug.

Amy (41:56)

An entomologist, I guess. I took entomology in college.

Morgan (42:00)

Did you. Was that part of your.

Amy (42:02)

I don't remember the details. I just, I'm the detail. I mean, I don't know if we learned like where the names come from. I'm sure we did, but my professor did a potluck and he brought us food like termite pizza.

Morgan (42:18)

I was about to say, did he give you insects at the potluck?

Amy (42:21)

Yes.

Morgan (42:22)

Did you eat it?

Amy (42:24)

Yeah. I think we all took bites of different things because he also explained to us that bugs are in all of our food anyways. And there's a certain amount like in our peanut butter. They the fda. There's a certain amount that's acceptable that are just going to happen.

Morgan (42:37)

Why is it on the ingredient list?

Amy (42:38)

Well, because it's not. It's such a minuscule amount but like they can't avoid a crushed up bug leg that ends up in your jar of peanut butter.

Morgan (42:48)

I am never gonna look at peanut butter the same.

Amy (42:50)

Well, it's an all food or any food. And at least that's what I remember learning 20 years ago. I could be wrong, but he would teach class too. Sometimes with hissing roaches crawling all over him. He's a very interesting.

Morgan (43:08)

He sounds like an interesting guy.

Amy (43:10)

Yeah. I think he has since passed away. I heard.

Morgan (43:13)

But hissing roaches, I mean the only time I've heard of people really consuming bugs like I went to a Mexican restaurant and they had. I think it was crickets or something that you could have with your guacamole.

Amy (43:25)

Yeah. Cricket tacos are a thing in Mexico.

Morgan (43:28)

Yeah. And then obviously in the tequila. What's the Bug that you can drink in some of the tequila. You know what I'm talking about?

Amy (43:34)

Scorpion.

Morgan (43:35)

Yeah. Maybe it's a scorpion instead of a bug in tequila. Let's see what pops up. Worms.

Amy (43:43)

Oh, worms. Is there. Is there a drink that has a scorpion in it?

Morgan (43:48)

There might be. Let's see.

Amy (43:49)

That seems dangerous.

Morgan (43:50)

Scorpion. And I think you're right, though. I think that's a thing in another one. Small ones, yes.

Amy (43:55)

Okay.

Morgan (43:56)

Scorpion mezcal is a small batch featuring a real edible scorpion inside every bottle. So you could have worm tequila or scorpion tequila. So I guess insects. All of that's all real. Anyways, sorry, that got brought up through variation of talking about skinks. I just actually really like their name, but that's all I have. Anything else you want to add before we jump out of here, Amy?

Amy (44:21)

Now I'm reading about insect tacos.

Morgan (44:24)

Is it crickets? I think it was crickets that they tried.

Amy (44:27)

Yeah, cricket tacos are definitely a thing. I mean, not just in Mexico. Like, here.

Morgan (44:32)

That's so wild to me because then I see a cricket or, like, I see a snail, and I.

Amy (44:38)

My mom loved escargot.

Morgan (44:40)

Really?

Amy (44:40)

I. I've never tried it, but she had these little escargot plates and forks that were very specific for that. And I got them. I have them, but I've never used them. They're in a cute little pouch thing.

Morgan (44:55)

Was your mom potentially Parisian? No, it's a very Parisian thing to eat. Escargot.

Amy (45:01)

Oh, no. I don't know if she's from Alabama. I don't know.

Morgan (45:06)

Are the bloodlines somewhere?

Amy (45:08)

She was supposed to try to at some point, and she liked it. And my dad was a foodie, so. And they had a restaurant in the 80s. They served escargot.

Morgan (45:16)

That. It's. Isn't that wild to think about you? I hear you talking about your. Your parents in that restaurant. Like my grandparents and my dad growing up, they owned a bowling alley and a hotel, and, like, that's what they did, and now it's just not there. And then where did it go? What happened? And why isn't it staying in the family? Is. Is their restaurant still around?

Amy (45:37)

On. No, no, no, no, no.

Morgan (45:39)

See, isn't that crazy?

Amy (45:40)

Restaurant business is hard. I think that my dad went bankrupt. Not because of that restaurant. Maybe something else. I can't remember. There was multiple restaurants. It just wasn't. That one was called Christopher's, and he named it my mom's maiden name. It was Judy Christopher, so he named that restaurant Christopher's. And that was the nicest restaurant. Hence, like steak dishes and the escargot. And there was a dish called Oysters Christopher, which was so delicious. I kind of craving that and want to make it. It's fried oysters, not raw. I cannot do a raw oyster at all. But then there was like a southern cooking restaurant called Pass the Biscuits please and then a Mexican restaurant called JC Garcia's.

Morgan (46:25)

Dang. He had a lot of restaurants.

Amy (46:28)

Yeah, and some would make it and some wouldn't. I mean, but that's, that's the restaurant business. And then he got into franchises. So then I'm a little more stable.

Morgan (46:36)

Any franchises that are still around?

Amy (46:38)

Mr. Gatti's shortstop Chicken Express. Are you familiar with any of those?

Morgan (46:46)

I think those are all Texas related. But that's crazy. He was a little restaurant entrepreneur.

Amy (46:52)

Restaurateur.

Morgan (46:53)

Restaurateur. There it is. Well, Amy, tell the people where they can find you. Hear you all that good stuff at

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Morgan (47:12)

Love it. And you can follow the show obibiboneshow on everything. Amy, thanks for being here. Bye, everybody.

Amy (47:18)

Bye.

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