Best Bits: Amy & Morgan Do Their Dating Wrapped Of 2024

Summary

Summary of "The Bobby Bones Show" Episode: Best Bits: Amy & Morgan Do Their Dating Wrapped Of 2024

Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Bobby Bones Show, host Bobby Bones invites co-hosts Amy Brown and DJ Dramos to reflect on their dating experiences throughout 2024. The conversation delves into personal anecdotes, lessons learned, and the emotional journey associated with modern dating. Skipping over the usual advertisements and introductory segments, the focus remains firmly on Amy and Morgan's heartfelt and insightful discussion.

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Reflecting on Holiday Seasons and Personal Growth (00:46 - 09:06)

Amy Brown begins by sharing her excitement for the upcoming holiday season, juxtaposed with reflections on her past relationship. She recounts how her breakup in August allowed her to reconnect with her love for Christmas, a sentiment she previously felt was stifled in her former relationship.

"I just feel thankful that that ended than I have at all this year." (08:15)

DJ Dramos echoes Amy's sentiments, emphasizing the importance of gratitude and the clarity that time brings to past decisions.

"Like, having those little aha moments." (09:08)

Balancing Personal Desires with Relationship Expectations (09:06 - 15:01)

The conversation shifts to Amy's internal struggle with balancing her desire for overseas trips with the expectations of a partner. She reflects on how she had postponed personal adventures in anticipation of meeting the "right person," ultimately realizing the need to prioritize her own aspirations.

"I just have to exist instead of holding on to this control of something that I really don't have control over." (12:58)

DJ Dramos supports Amy's viewpoint, encouraging her to pursue her dreams independently rather than waiting for someone else to make them happen.

"I think you're going to come back really, really tired, but it's going to be worth it." (16:42)

Dating in the Modern Age: Challenges and Insights (15:01 - 26:13)

Amy transitions into discussing her experiences with dating in 2024, highlighting the shift from online dating to more in-person connections. She shares statistics from her "Dating Wrapped," revealing that out of ten first dates, four were met through Hinge, three in person, two through setups, and one via Instagram. This data-driven approach provides listeners with relatable insights into the current dating landscape.

"I went on 10 first dates in 2024." (28:05)

The hosts delve into the varied outcomes of these dates, including the reasons why certain relationships didn't progress. Amy emphasizes the importance of emotional availability and effective communication in fostering meaningful connections.

"You can't say the wrong thing to the right person." (36:02)

Navigating Rejections and Embracing Vulnerability (27:07 - 37:02)

The discussion moves to handling rejections gracefully. Amy recounts instances where dating behaviors, such as ghosting, left her feeling bewildered and undervalued. DJ Dramos shares a personal story about receiving a delayed response from a date, illustrating the unpredictable nature of modern dating.

"I was like, okay, I'm busy. It doesn't mean you're living in La La land." (54:06)

Both hosts agree on the significance of mature communication and personal boundaries, advocating for honesty and self-respect in all interactions.

Full Circle Moments and Personal Milestones (37:02 - 45:18)

Amy shares a poignant moment from a Sugarland concert where she heard a song she'd sung in her youth—a moment that underscored her journey to Nashville and personal growth.

"It was like my first time back on tour, and I have this life here now. It was a full circle moment." (44:21)

DJ Dramos connects this experience to his own milestones, such as overcoming dyslexia, highlighting how personal challenges contribute to one's narrative and self-understanding.

"This was a moment where I knew my story and I'm here now." (46:23)

Final Reflections and Looking Ahead (45:18 - 56:44)

As the episode draws to a close, Amy and DJ Dramos reflect on the transformative year of 2024. They acknowledge the hardships faced in previous years (2020-2023) and celebrate the progress made in their personal and professional lives.

"It's been one of the best years I've had in a long time." (56:12)

They express optimism for the future, emphasizing the importance of perseverance, self-discovery, and embracing life's unexpected turns.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a candid and thoughtful exploration of Amy Brown and DJ Dramos's dating lives over the past year. Through personal stories and mutual support, they provide listeners with valuable insights into navigating relationships, personal growth, and the significance of celebrating one's individuality. The heartfelt dialogue serves as both relatable and inspiring, encouraging audiences to reflect on their own journeys as they approach the new year.

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Notable Quotes:

• Amy Brown (08:15): "I just feel thankful that that ended than I have at all this year."
• DJ Dramos (09:08): "Like, having those little aha moments."
• Amy Brown (12:58): "I just have to exist instead of holding on to this control of something that I really don't have control over."
• DJ Dramos (16:42): "I think you're going to come back really, really tired, but it's going to be worth it."
• Amy Brown (28:05): "I went on 10 first dates in 2024."
• Amy Brown (36:02): "You can't say the wrong thing to the right person."
• Amy Brown (44:21): "It was like my first time back on tour, and I have this life here now. It was a full circle moment."
• DJ Dramos (46:23): "This was a moment where I knew my story and I'm here now."
• DJ Dramos (56:12): "It's been one of the best years I've had in a long time."

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Sections Covered:

1. Reflecting on Holiday Seasons and Personal Growth
2. Balancing Personal Desires with Relationship Expectations
3. Dating in the Modern Age: Challenges and Insights
4. Navigating Rejections and Embracing Vulnerability
5. Full Circle Moments and Personal Milestones
6. Final Reflections and Looking Ahead

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the depth and breadth of Amy and Morgan's discussions, offering listeners a meaningful glimpse into their personal experiences and the lessons they've gleaned from a year of dating.

Transcript

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[Amy Brown]

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[Amy Brown]

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[Amy Brown]

Points of contention was finances.

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[Amy Brown]

You know, hiring somebody to to do credit repair for me, that was a gift that I gave myself that allowed.

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[Amy Brown]

Then eventually buy my own home.

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[Amy Brown]

Podcast Network the Best Bits of the Week with Morgan Part 1 Behind the.

[Savannah Guthrie]

Scenes with a member of the.

[Amy Brown]

Merry Almost Christmas. Everybody welcome to the best bits. It's part one. I've got Amy joining me this weekend. Words are. I guess I'm junior something this weekend.

[DJ Dramos]

Amy. Hey, hey, hey.

[Amy Brown]

It's almost Christmas, you know, the words are meshing together. The brain is mush.

[DJ Dramos]

We've recorded a lot today, so.

[Amy Brown]

So I don't have the thought process happening anymore.

[DJ Dramos]

We gotta warm up again.

[Amy Brown]

What did you used to do? The do mi. What? No. Do re.

[DJ Dramos]

Do re. Mi re, do.

[Amy Brown]

There was another one.

[DJ Dramos]

There was like a word, like to sing. Oh, unique New York or How now brown cow.

[Amy Brown]

How now brown cow. I remember. Unique. Yeah, you're right. Unique New York. Unique New York.

[DJ Dramos]

How now brown cow. How now brown cow. Yep.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

I don't know any others. Those are the only ones I did.

[Amy Brown]

There used to be another one that I thought it was like always my singing lessons. They would do these warm ups and now I can't remember any of them. Anyways, how's life, Amy? How are you doing going into the holidays?

[DJ Dramos]

I am doing great and I'm ready to go to Colorado and see my sister.

[Amy Brown]

Is that what you guys are doing?

[DJ Dramos]

Yep. And I cannot wait. And she's so sweet. She sent me a video yesterday of her fireplace. And of course it looks beautiful because she decorated it like the garland and stockings. And I don't know how she does it. It looks like it's out of a magazine. And she got stockings made for me and Stashira and Stevenson. Like they're hanging just because they're matching. She has their red and green velvet for her whole family and they've had them for years. And she had some made that say bb, which is what her kids call me. And Stevenson is to Shira. And so I was gonna pack our stockings and take em but now I don't have to.

[Amy Brown]

Oh, that's so sweet.

[DJ Dramos]

I think she liked the cohesive vibe.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

So it was sweet. And she did it to be thoughtful. And also I think she likes that it's gonna look the same. She also asked me if my gifts had been wrapped yet and what I was planning on wrapping when I got there or what and what my paper would look like. Because I think she likes it to.

[Amy Brown]

All she has an aesthetic.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. But she's like, no, I'd be fine with anything, but I'll go ahead and have some stuff here for you. Because I said, oh, well, when I get to town, I was just gonna go to Walmart and pick up stuff. She's like, okay. Yeah. She's like, I already Got things from there. So we're good. Like, perfect. I'm looking at her sister. There was some reel I came across yesterday was talking about different siblings and how they react when it's holidays. And the oldest is like, okay, yeah, I land at 4pm if grandma could pick me up. Da, da, da. Very organized together. And then the youngest is like, shoot, I forgot to book my flight. Can anybody spot me some money? Because I need about $800. And I was like, that's.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, that's both of us. I'm always coming in hot from. Especially because I'll always drive back to Kansas. So I'm always coming in, like, so hot. I'm like, I don't know what time I'm actually leaving. You guys will see me at some point on this day. And all my stuff is in my car, and it looks like I'm bringing, like, my whole home back with me. And I'm just like, pure chaos. Meanwhile, my older sister has, like, wrapped all the presents for my parents that we do together because she. It all gets sent to her, and she. It's all taken care of. She's like, okay, we're ready. And I'm like, thankful for you, because I was not. So welcome to youngest siblings at Christmas time. How is it so this year? You didn't have the kids last year for Christmas, Right. So this is your year.

[DJ Dramos]

Correct. And we're both gonna be in Colorado. Ben will be there too, so his family will be in Pagosa, and that's where my sister is.

[Amy Brown]

And is there any plans to see each other, or is it more happenstance if it.

[DJ Dramos]

I'm sure we will at some point. Cause his family, they go to my sister's coffee shop, and I'm sure we'll see each other. And then, you know, we're on a Friday to Friday rotation. So some people do Sunday to Sunday. Some people, you know, do two days on, three days off. Like, the rotation schedule is different for every co parenting situation. Ours is Friday to Friday, and I love it. And we're able to stay on that because, yeah, they're gonna come be with me this weekend, and then we'll fly out, and then next Friday, they'll go from my sister's house to his family's house, stay on Friday to Friday.

[Amy Brown]

Oh, good.

[DJ Dramos]

And then I'll come back, and then I'm gonna be here the rest of the break, so.

[Amy Brown]

So you'll be here for New Year's?

[DJ Dramos]

Yes.

[Amy Brown]

Any big plans for New Year's?

[DJ Dramos]

No.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, good. Is that. Are you, like, happy about that, or.

[DJ Dramos]

You'Re like, no, I'm fine being more low key, which some people know, some people don't. But that's my wedding anniversary.

[Amy Brown]

Mm. We have talked about that.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay. Though I don't. It's not, like, any weird, weird feelings around it, but I definitely will be low key. I think we're just gonna do, like, something at the house and celebrate for sure. At New York midnight, not Nashville midnight.

[Amy Brown]

Because it's ahead of the time.

[DJ Dramos]

Yes. It's an hour earlier, so you'll be.

[Amy Brown]

In bed when the actual ball drops.

[DJ Dramos]

Probably.

[Amy Brown]

Got it. Okay.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

What about you going, well, going home for Christmas, and then the day after Christmas, I head to Europe.

[DJ Dramos]

I know. I'm so jealous and excited.

[Amy Brown]

I will. I'll give you the full lowdown because I am going to Paris. It's one of the stops. We'll be in Barcelona for New Year's Eve. That's the plan. Don't know what we're doing. We're, like, kind of winging it right now, but I'm sure we will be doing something. And probably staying up all night would be my anticipation, because one never been to Europe and one never been to Europe for New Year's Eve. So lots of firsts happening.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. I feel like you're going to come back really, really tired, but it's going to be worth it. I'm proud of you for booking this and just make making it happen.

[Amy Brown]

You know, Amy, I was. I was thinking about this, like, two different ways, and I haven't, like, really said this out loud to anybody. Two things. Like, one, I look at my breakup in this season and how much I love Christmas. Like, Christmas is my favorite time of year. And if I would have stayed in that relationship, I don't know that I would have been celebrating in the same capacity. Because he was Jewish, he celebrates a different holiday, which is totally awesome. And fine, but because he wasn't open to how much I love Christmas, I don't know that it would have been the same experience for me. And I feel more thankful that that ended than I have at all this year. Like, when it happened, I was so devastated and heartbroken. But now looking at it, I just am like, okay. That was like, the universe being like, do you really want to spend the rest of your life not being able to celebrate Christmas in the way that you love it so much, and decorating your tree and being so joyful and excited around all of these Christmas activities when that's not something that that person would have Wanted. And not in a bad way. Again, there's just a different version. And I think about that a lot right now where I just feel thankful. And that's the first time I felt.

[DJ Dramos]

Like thankful to have that gratitude.

[Amy Brown]

Yes.

[DJ Dramos]

You couldn't see that back then because what was the month?

[Amy Brown]

It was in August.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. So you weren't even anywhere near Christmas. You weren't able to see it. Plus, it was so fresh. But that's the beauty of time and healing and then certain life events showing you. Oh, like, kind of having those little aha moments.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. Because when we were.

[DJ Dramos]

That are helpful.

[Amy Brown]

Because when we were breaking up, I also didn't really say this on the show, but, like, a big conversation was coming up about holidays, because it was coming. He was about to move in. Then it was like, okay, I go home for the holidays. And that was always okay. But then as we started to talk about the logistics of holidays and me being like, well, you know, this is what my family does, and we go to church and we go see all these lights and we do all these things, he was like, I don't think I can do that. And I just don't think, like, in that moment, so much of me cared for him that I didn't see it as a bigger picture. I was just seeing in that moment of like, why are you doing this? Why is this happening? And now I think about that conversation and I'm like, I would not have been doing all of the things that I love to do this holiday season because I would have been trying to make something work that wasn't meant to.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, you'd be going through it now. You wouldn't be on the other side of it. Like, you are.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

Because if you waited for the Thanksgiving, the Christmas, then you would be in it, dimming your light.

[Amy Brown]

My little Christmas light.

[DJ Dramos]

Your Christmas light. Out of, you know, trying to be respectful to him and merge both of y'all. And I'm sure he would have been okay with you. Yeah, you're doing whatever. And then he goes and does his thing. And then I would imagine, though, you want someone that you can do things with. And so he saved you a lot of time by breaking up in August. You'd be going through it literally right now. No, you'd probably still be with him. And then the new year would come and you'd be like, oh, my gosh. That was probably one of my. I don't wanna say worst, because he has other qualities, but it's like, that just wasn't a great holiday.

[Amy Brown]

And not what I pictured in my head for a holiday. And then the other side of that too is I had kind of been holding on to Europe and just overseas trips in general for like the day when I meet my person. Because I do so much stuff, right. I'm a super active person and I have so many adventures and so many memories that I think there was a part of me that was holding on to like an overseas trip to be like, well, this is the thing that I can share with them and have with them versus, you know, I have all these other things. I'm not going to have first memories with them because I've done so many things and I just kind of like sat with myself and I was like, why are you doing this? Why are you waiting? Because like, realistically, like genuinely like I want to be like the most level headed here and saying like it could never happen and that's okay. I have to be okay with that. Is that probably likely? No. I will probably meet somebody amazing. It's going to be awesome. But there is this chance that I don't find this perfect person and I spend the rest of my life waiting to take these trips because they never came. What am I doing? Why am I sitting here waiting for that to happen or it happens 10 years from now? And I waited 10 years to not go overseas just because of this.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, I would look at it more like you need to pursue things you want to do and not put things on hold for anybody else. But I would ditch the, this is something that may not ever happen for me. It's not even necessary. I would just not even say it out loud and not even give it, you know, I don't even affirm that. Oh, okay, yeah, that could be it. But it could be that. You know what? I don't know what is in store. I'm excited about the future and what it holds, but I'm no longer going to put certain things on my bucket list on hold as I wait to figure out what the future is. Something like language like that.

[Amy Brown]

Instead of I know well and I'm getting to there. I think I had to at least own that reality instead of like allowing it to own me. You know what I mean? Like, I think I was allowing it to hold me back and so now allowing myself to say it out loud just like accept just what is to come versus but it's almost like wait to worry.

[DJ Dramos]

You don't know that that's what's to come. Like you need to wait to worry. I feel like you're already kind of worried that that might be the case, and you're trying to convince yourself to accept it when you have no idea.

[Amy Brown]

It's like a. It's like just, I saw something. It was this video. I want to say it was Mel Robbins, and. And she was just like, own every single part of the story, even the things that you think could happen or whatever. Because if you own it all, then it can't have power over you. So I'm like owning this version where this could happen.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay.

[Amy Brown]

And try so. Because if you own it, then you can kind of let it go.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay, Gotcha.

[Amy Brown]

Does that make sense? I don't feel like I'm explaining that very well.

[DJ Dramos]

No, I see where you're going. I think I just don't hearing this.

[Amy Brown]

But the language is weird.

[DJ Dramos]

I'm sitting across from you and I'm watching you say, I've had to accept that that may never happen for me. And I'm like, oh, well, we don't have to say that out loud. It doesn't mean you're living in La La land or be in denial. But it's. You can. I'm just saying you can use different language that might be helpful for you. Or maybe not. You can take this or leave it. I just think that I would love to hear you say, you know, I've had to accept that I have no idea what the future holds.

[Amy Brown]

That's probably a much more elegant way of putting it.

[DJ Dramos]

I. I'm. I'm working on accepting whatever that is that it looks like. Whatever my future looks like. I know that I will be okay. And I've decided to start moving forward on some of my dreams and not waiting on them. And then, you know.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, that's a much nicer way to put it out in the universe. I'm so like brass. And I'm like.

[DJ Dramos]

It's not even just what's putting out in the universe, but it's what's like, could end up looping in your head.

[Amy Brown]

And I don't think it has looped in my head. It's just more that I'm like, I just need to. It was like the way that I had to translate in my brain to stop waiting. You know what I mean? Like, I just have to exist.

[DJ Dramos]

You're surrendering.

[Amy Brown]

Yes. Instead of, like, holding on to this, like, control of something that I really don't have control over.

[DJ Dramos]

I get it.

[Amy Brown]

So I think it was just how it was processing in my brain, but I like the way that you put it much Better. But those are the two kind of things that, like, in the past few weeks, I've really, like, come to. My brain is in my body's, like, understanding what's going on in my life right now. It's been a weird, weird time, but also very exciting at the same time. Very like, you know when you're about to do something and you're like, I'm so nervous and my whole body feels it, but also so excited for what's about to happen.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, that's how I feel. Yeah, I can see it in your face. I'm excited for you. I think it's gonna be fun. I mean, parts of me are, you know, when I use the word jealous, it's not in a bad way. I'm pumped for you. But it's inspiring and encouraging to me and probably others listening of, like, what are some things you've wanted to do? Because I've wanted to go to Paris for a long time, and I'm not waiting on anybody. I don't have this thought in my mind of, oh, I want to share that with a special someone. But Ben, actually, he took the kids to Paris. His sister was living in London, so they went to go visit her, and then they popped on over to Paris and like, well, shoot, my kids have already gone and I haven't. I need to. I need to figure out a way to go. I just always put it off for some reason and end up going to Colorado. But I love seeing my sister. But you know what? Maybe I should see if my sister wants to go to Paris. Another place I've always wanted to go is Spain, and my niece is studying abroad there this spring. And my sister is gonna go, and she's invited me, but we don't have off that timeframe. So at any point in time while she's there. No, no. That.

[Amy Brown]

It always is the beginning of the year when we really don't have. Dang it.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. I think she's going, like, in March. But really, I mean, we have off winter and summer.

[Amy Brown]

That's true.

[DJ Dramos]

And that's it for. For a length of time that it would require to make that sort of trip worth it.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, I'm not looking at it. It's not one of those you can do for two days and come back.

[DJ Dramos]

Around the world and get exhausted to be there for one day. But, you know, maybe if I get a wild hair, I just think that it's. You're an encouragement. Because I'm like, I don't need to put this stuff off. Like, why have I not gone? I'm a homebody.

[Amy Brown]

But it's so hard to do that, right? You're in that moment, and you have every reason and every excuse, and the world is literally in that situation, like, fighting against you. Be like, yeah, here's all your excuses. Take them. They're yours. But it really was, like, a genuine surrender of just being like, okay, I just. I have to do this. I don't care. Every. Every ounce of me is probably like, this could all go wrong and everything go in, whatever, but you're just gonna do it. You have to do it. This is, like, has to be this first step. And, you know, I. I think about this also theory. There's this saying that if a city has been calling to you for a long time, it's because your story has already been written there.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh.

[Amy Brown]

And it means, like, there's a reason you're supposed to go. What? That it could be small, it could be big. It could be all these things.

[DJ Dramos]

I hope it's good.

[Amy Brown]

And, like, for you. No, this is a good thing.

[DJ Dramos]

I'm thinking of taken. I travel.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, let's not go that direction. You want to talk about putting bad.

[Savannah Guthrie]

Things in the universe?

[DJ Dramos]

I know, I know.

[Amy Brown]

Wrong direction.

[DJ Dramos]

I can't help where my brain went. I'm not gonna give it power. I'm just saying, like, okay, I mean, don't.

[Amy Brown]

Don't go that way. Go to office.

[DJ Dramos]

I'm not saying, like, I've had to accept that I might get taken.

[Amy Brown]

Well, I'm telling you this for Paris.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay. Okay.

[Amy Brown]

So there's a reason you need to go to Paris. Much like me. Like, Brussels has been calling to me since I was studying French in college. And it's always been this. It's such a random city to have, like, that's calling to you for some reason too.

[DJ Dramos]

I know. I was like, why Brussels?

[Amy Brown]

Like, so my. The reason was because my French professor told me that if I really wanted to test my French, I needed to go to Belgium, because if they would speak back to me in French, then I nailed the language. And if they didn't, then I had work to do. And so it was this kind of, like, seed that planted where I was like, okay, I need to go try this. So I don't know that it's.

[DJ Dramos]

You're gonna be able to speak to them.

[Amy Brown]

No, no, it's all gone. My whole French is gone. Because that was in college. It was, like, 10 plus years ago. And I have not used my French in any way. I mean, I'm sure I'll pick up on words and there'll be phrases and things that I understand. But it's funny because it was a seed that's been planted for so long and it's been over 10, almost 11 years since that, you know, and. But it's still there. And it was still like when we were looking at the places to go and what we could do, and I was like, I have to go to Brussels. I have to. And it's beyond that because I love chocolate and I love beer and that's what they're known for. And waffles, like all things I love. So of course I would love that city. So there was more than that. But it. It could just be something as small as that, right? Like where it's just this, a closing of a piece of your story that you needed to finish writing the chapter or whatever.

[DJ Dramos]

Maybe that's where you're gonna meet somebody.

[Amy Brown]

It could be that also. It could be a big part of the chapter. But that's what I'm saying. So you have to go to Paris because there's a reason it's been calling to you.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay.

[Amy Brown]

Whatever it may be, there's a reason it's calling.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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[Amy Brown]

Okay, last time we were on, we were talking about dating a little bit. Do you want to share any updates? You talk about any of it?

[DJ Dramos]

Still dating?

[Amy Brown]

Still dating? Yes. Okay. Is that all? Is that where we're staying?

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, for now.

[Amy Brown]

Okay.

[DJ Dramos]

But it's. We'll probably have more of an update soon and. Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

In the new year just because it's.

[DJ Dramos]

Not just my story. So, you know, and then I feel like certain things too. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how it's gonna really roll out. I'm trying not to think about it too much. I feel like when I first started dating Ben and I was on the show, I mean, we started talking and then the next day I was on air and I was like, oh my gosh, there's this guy and we called him Air Force Guy and then we were talking about it right away, and it followed us the entire way till down the aisle. And then all the things. And just being a little more cautious, I guess, this time around, especially because kids are involved.

[Amy Brown]

I understand that. I'm pretty sure each relationship. Because I've had now three significant relationships since I've been with the show just a while. Look back on the fact that I've been with the show for almost eight years, and that's crazy, but each one I learned something different about how I want to navigate, like, my relationship on air and how I talk about it and the different things. And you've seen the evolution of it. Right. The first one, everybody knew everything. I posted him all the time. Horrible relationship. And it was a horrible experience for me because that was out there. Second one, I was like, nothing. You will know nothing. There's no nickname, there's no anything. I'm never gonna post him. Whatever. And then the third one was like, okay, here's a nickname. Maybe you'll get a hand. Here's like a little half and half. It's like I've had the different variations. So I think it makes sense that you're being cautious. I think you learn a lot from your experiences. And your experience with Ben was that you shared so much, and it stayed with all of that for decades.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. And he. Well, and Ben was so private, but he was gone a lot, so he wasn't able to listen. So I was like, eh. Plus, we were dating, so it's not like I thought we were gonna get married. And then all of a sudden, things just escalated quickly and we did get married, and that became a whole thing. So I think it's just. Yeah, the person would be fine with it, but there are kids for both of us. So are you happy? Yes, very.

[Amy Brown]

And enjoying yourself in this, like, new phase of life?

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, it's easy. I like it.

[Amy Brown]

That's a good thing.

[DJ Dramos]

Easy is a really good thing. I know that sometimes easy can be like, ah. But trust me, there are. It has its own challenges. And one day that may be more known. But I think our whole. The whole thing has been with caution because of certain things. So, yeah, you're like start saying more and more.

[Amy Brown]

No, I'm trying to make sure I'm not pushing in different directions. That's why I'm asking. Very baseline here.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll see what happens over the break and then may have an update. I don't know.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. All right.

[DJ Dramos]

Maybe one day I just get crazy and post something.

[Amy Brown]

I did see you post a little soft launch situation at one point.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. Like choosing.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. And then I saw all the comments, just giggling. I was like, I think this is.

[DJ Dramos]

A version of that.

[Amy Brown]

But I'm not quite sure.

[DJ Dramos]

I guess. Yeah, that's what it is.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

I just liked that picture. I liked that night. It was a impromptu, just little happy hour. Like, we just popped in this one place, had one drink and then left. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna take a quick pic of this. And that was just so. I guess it was. What do they call it, a carousel. Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

You had a little photo dump, some.

[DJ Dramos]

Memories and that was in there. And I'm scrolling through my phone right now. I have so many pictures. Anyway, is there going to be a.

[Amy Brown]

Potential section soft launch over the holidays?

[DJ Dramos]

I don't. I mean, I'm not like, trying. I don't know. I feel like. I don't know that there needs to be another soft. Because I'm not trying to be weird about it. I guess it's just parts of my life that also I want to remember. I mean, that's. My Instagram's not just. It's public. Yes. But looking back, I want to go through and be like, oh, yeah, I remember that day. We were just driving along and then we were like, wait, pull over. Let's pop in there and get a little cocktail. And then. Yeah, that's all got fun stuff on here. So we'll see.

[Amy Brown]

All right, I'm not pushing anymore. I'm allowing.

[DJ Dramos]

I know listeners are really like, okay, shut up. If you're not going to tell us a goodbye.

[Amy Brown]

No, I think they love hearing the. The little happiness and joys in your voice. I think you are very happy. I can attest to that.

[DJ Dramos]

Thank you.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, I will tell you. So I had. I had prepped this, but it. It didn't make it and it might. You might see a version of it. We'll see, who knows? But I had prepped, like, a dating wrapped. Have you been seeing those online?

[DJ Dramos]

No. What is that?

[Amy Brown]

So, like, you know how there's like all these different streaming platforms that are doing, like, sharing their wrapped for people, their artists that they loved over the year or the podcast they were listening to?

[DJ Dramos]

What word are you saying?

[Amy Brown]

Rapt wrapped, like W, R A P, P, E, D wrapped like you're wrapped for the year. It's like a summing up your year. Listening to music in a tiny bow or listening to podcasting.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay, I did not know it was called that, but I get it now. Sorry.

[Amy Brown]

I was like, am I saying that weird? I could have been. But also, you could think I was saying, like, rapped. Like, I'm rapping a. Yeah, like a song.

[DJ Dramos]

Yes. Or rhyme.

[Amy Brown]

Well, I put together my dating wrapped, and I'm just gonna give you, like, look at my cute little presentation I made. It's adorable. It was like, pink and orange and bright and fun.

[DJ Dramos]

You went all out.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, I did. But I'm gonna give it to you because we didn't do it on the show. At least for now. At the point of this recording. So basically, the case subject is myself. I'm 31 years old, I live in Nashville, and I am a independent, stubborn, and massive animal lover. Those are some qualities about me. And I went on 10 first dates in 2024. Okay.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay, good for you.

[Amy Brown]

And we. Four of them I met on Hinge. Three were met in person, which is wild IRL. Two were setups from people, and one came from Instagram. So this is how I met all these first dates. The dates. One resulted in a relationship. Man in uniform. Three did not live in Nashville. Five resulted in a second date. And I had five first kisses.

[DJ Dramos]

So you kissed half of them? Yeah. Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

And some of them transpired further than like, a second day. Some were like a couple dates for a while. So, yeah, there was some in there. Okay. Location of first dates. One was on a walk, four were dinner, four were at a bar, and then one has a question mark by it. But it was a CMA after party. It's kind of where we met. And then it transpired into a date. It was a whole thing.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay. I'm curious how that turns into a date.

[Amy Brown]

But it was like a version. Yeah, we're putting it in that category because it was a long night. What did they do for a living? What do you think they did for a living? What do you think will be on here?

[DJ Dramos]

One was in a uniform.

[Amy Brown]

We do know that about one of them.

[DJ Dramos]

I haven't worse. Any of them in the industry?

[Amy Brown]

No, surprisingly not.

[DJ Dramos]

Even record label type stuff? No. Because you said CMA after party.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. No.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay. No. I don't know. Veterinarian?

[Amy Brown]

No, but that'd be cool. I would love to date a veterinarian. Two were in the military, four were in business. So, like, that kind of all over the board. One was in social media, and three, I forgot they did. So who knows? All bets are off.

[DJ Dramos]

So a guy in social media, was he an influencer? He worked at branding.

[Amy Brown]

Influencer.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, really? A guy influencer?

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, but not an influencer that you would not like what you're probably picturing.

[DJ Dramos]

Did he have a niche?

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

What was it?

[Amy Brown]

Jokes.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay, I'll show you off.

[Amy Brown]

But like, not like a. Not you're picturing probably like Kristen Cavallari's ex, The young one. Right. Who. He's like an influencer. Oh, you know what I'm talking about.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

Not like that.

[DJ Dramos]

No. Is it? I mean, I don't. He's an influencer. I just feel like he's a tick tock famous.

[Amy Brown]

I mean, that's an influencer.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, okay.

[Amy Brown]

So not like that.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay.

[Amy Brown]

Different variation reasons we stopped dating. Okay. One, religion differences. One, he ghosted. We heard about that one. Literally ghosting. And Halloween. Ironic. One, he didn't want to celebrate my birthday. We also heard about that one in a variation. Two, we didn't live in the same city equally. We're just like, this probably isn't gonna work. Two, there was just no connection. And three, he was. Three of them were emotionally unavailable.

[DJ Dramos]

You could tell that that quickly?

[Amy Brown]

Yes.

[DJ Dramos]

Hmm.

[Amy Brown]

Really, really strongly emotionally unavailable. I think the. The older I get, the more quicker I can pick up on things, especially the experiences I've had. So those were those and then some lessons I've learned from dating. This is my last slide. You'll be okay. After being blindsided by a breakup, men are still emotionally unavailable past the age of 30. Really, really wasn't prepared for that one.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, yeah, I've. Yeah. Someone in their 50s that was unavailable emotionally.

[Amy Brown]

So past the age of 50.

[DJ Dramos]

But it was tricky because he seemed secure and then he's avoidant because he doesn't want to get too vulnerable. But oftentimes avoidance will come across as secure.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. In the very beginning, it's tricky. It is tricky. You have to stop waiting for a partner to arrive to live your life. We were just talking about that meeting in real life is more romantic. I had dated like so many people from dating apps, but this experience this year, I've met more people in real life and it's just been more fun. More like, okay, I like dating. Not I'm dating for an app kind of version. So it's been more fun. If you're on dating apps, prepare to be a raccoon.

[DJ Dramos]

What does that mean?

[Amy Brown]

Like, you're gonna have to sift through some trash. You're gonna have to go through some naps. You gotta be prepared. So be a raccoon. If you're on the dating apps, never ghost somebody. Never. I, you know, had been that experience again. As I'm like, 31, I'm like, are we really still this emotionally immature? We don't know how to communicate. Let's not. And I made sure to communicate with all of mine when they were ending that I was like, this is not. Even though it was awkward and I hated it. And the text. Sending the text was, you know, gives you a little jeepers creepers situation, but you do it. You have to do it.

[DJ Dramos]

So there was this one guy. I only met up with them once for, like, a quick drink at like 4pm and I had an out. Like, I had a work thing, I had to go. And he asked me out again. And I sent a note because I didn't want to ghost. And then he didn't reply because I was just kindly saying, this is not gonna work. And he just didn't reply. And then three months later, Kat and I talked about this on the fifth thing, my podcast. And I randomly got a reply from him, like, three months later that was like, okay, thank you. And I'm like, what, are you trying to, like, touch base come to life? I don't know. I just assumed he was ignoring me, but I don't know. It's so weird, huh? I don't even have that same number anymore.

[Amy Brown]

But, yeah, that one's not normal in any capacity. Like, I guess I get if it was like a week later because maybe he had some crazy work trip or.

[DJ Dramos]

Whatever, but, like, no, no, no. Three months. That's weird. So also, there's that if someone is put together a thoughtful reply that's gonna maturely end things, the least you could do is double tap it. Thumbs up. Double tap it.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, just, like, acknowledge that you received it.

[DJ Dramos]

But then three months later, I wonder if he was like, oh, shoot, I never replied to that. I better send it now. But you would think he'd be like, it's been three months.

[Amy Brown]

That is insane. I cannot believe he responded. Then it's weird. I'm just gonna choose to believe that he, like, dropped off the map and, like, his phone got thrown into an ocean or something.

[DJ Dramos]

But then you would say, hey, sorry, I'm just now replying, my phone fell in the ocean.

[Amy Brown]

That's the only way that I can, like, process that in my brain. Yeah, but see, this is crazy things that you experience in dating. And wow, I really don't have the words for that one. The last thing that I have on here that I learned is you can't say the wrong thing to the right person. So if you're healing and you're growing and you're sharing your experiences. If it's the right person that you're supposed to be with, they're not gonna scare away easy. You're gonna be able to communicate with them. You're gonna be able to share your feelings. And obviously, like, if you're being a straight up jerk, yeah, that's probably gonna turn some people off, but.

[DJ Dramos]

And the flip side of that, too, sometimes you feel like you can't do or say anything. Right. Like, maybe you can't.

[Amy Brown]

That's not your person.

[DJ Dramos]

Say the.

[Amy Brown]

You can't say the right thing. Nothing's right.

[DJ Dramos]

To the wrong person or something. How would we say that? Give me the original quote.

[Amy Brown]

You can't say the wrong thing to the right person.

[DJ Dramos]

Okay. And then you can't say the right thing to the wrong person.

[Amy Brown]

Mm.

[DJ Dramos]

There you go. Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. You know, I was. I remember one of these dates that I was sitting on, and it was the guy who wasn't gonna celebrate my birthday. And before that had happened, I said, you know, I feel like I'm too much. And I remember having that feeling. And I was like, I think this is it.

[DJ Dramos]

This is the moment.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm recognizing. You're making me feel like I'm too much and I'm not.

[DJ Dramos]

Well, to be fair, he can't make you feel like you're. You're the one that feels it.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. Because of what he's doing. His actions were making me feel that way.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

So that's. Those are my lessons learned. That's my dating raft of 2024.

[DJ Dramos]

That's fun.

[Amy Brown]

I might do a little video of it or something. We'll see. But yeah. Cute little pink presentation.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. I'm like, okay. I think I went on.

[Amy Brown]

How many did you go on that.

[DJ Dramos]

As like, an outline and then people fill it in for themselves. Three people. Three first dates in 2024. Okay, that's not bad.

[Amy Brown]

How many turned into a second date?

[DJ Dramos]

Two.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. How many first kisses?

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, not. But not on the first date.

[Amy Brown]

It's okay. Just like. It's like your first kisses.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, two.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. We had two. What were the other ones at? Oh, where did you meet them?

[DJ Dramos]

One on Hinge. Oh, two on Hinge. Even one that. The one that didn't reply for three months and then another through a friend.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. Ooh, Set a little setup. What do they do for a living? You don't have to share the one that's current. You can share the other two.

[DJ Dramos]

Business. I don't.

[Amy Brown]

The one you forgot.

[DJ Dramos]

No. I know them all, actually. I mean, cause it's only three. It's not that hard to keep up. But one like arc landscape design stuff. Another like water.

[Amy Brown]

Just water. Is he like a. Is he a whale? Water 1.

[DJ Dramos]

Water sports, water recreation.

[Amy Brown]

Like the variety here, Amy.

[DJ Dramos]

Business is the next one. Like so businessy that sometimes our conversations, I'm like, we live very different lives.

[Amy Brown]

Those are always weird. Yeah. When you have that realization, his work.

[DJ Dramos]

Day compared to mine, it's just almost comical. Comicable. It's almost comical.

[Amy Brown]

Where were your guys's first dates?

[DJ Dramos]

One was just down close to the office at the top of the Thompson. What is that called?

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. Are you talking about The Jackson?

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, L.A. jackson, L.A. jackson. That was the 4:00pm Whatever. Gosh, where was it? Oh, oh, oh, the. The cute greenhouse thing in Green Hills.

[Amy Brown]

What's it called? The Greenhouse Bar.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, that's what it's called. Okay. Greenhouse and. Mm. Audrey.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, nice. So we got lots of em. Okay, there's our dating route to me and Amy. I just had a little bit more variation in there, but. Amy, Amy, I'm really happy for you.

[DJ Dramos]

Thank you.

[Amy Brown]

Well, we'll hear more in 2025, I'm sure of it. Okay, we're gonna take one more quick break. We'll be right back.

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Satisfaction guaranteed. Deck your home this holiday season with Blinds.com save up to 45% sitewide plus a free professional measure. Blinds.com rules and restrictions may apply. Okay, very serious question. Not at all related to the holidays or anything like that. So I got a facial done lately. I got my pretty face shaved. Did the whole thing dermaplaning? Yes. But I have a question for you. When you go and get like a facial done, they put you in like, you're in this cute little room and they like give you a robe and stuff. Do you completely undress or like, what do you do in those scenarios? Because I did. And I put the robe on because I had to go under the blankets and it felt weird keeping my pants on. Like being under this. Like heated.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh yeah, I would say. I mean, I keep my underwear on.

[Amy Brown]

But yeah, but like you. Okay. So you.

[DJ Dramos]

It just depends on how cold I am or if I have on sweatpants or jeans. Like how comfortable do I want to be? Because if I had on sweats, I'd probably keep them on because it's a facial and they're probably just gonna be working with my neck and chest and face.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

Did you have sweats on?

[Amy Brown]

No, I had leggings on.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh.

[Amy Brown]

But the bed was heated and I was like, am I gonna be like sweating? Am I like, you're fine it just felt weird because, like, they were just doing work on my face, but I was like, you know, I have this robe on. I'm like, naked and it feels a little weird.

[DJ Dramos]

No, I think it's okay. You've probably seen it all.

[Amy Brown]

That's probably true. But still, you know what I mean?

[DJ Dramos]

Like, I think it's normal to want to be cozy.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

And leggings sometimes can be uncomfortable under sheets and blankets. Sweatpants different, but leggings and then sometimes the fuzz gets all over them.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. Okay. So I shouldn't be weird about it.

[DJ Dramos]

No.

[Amy Brown]

Okay. Well, another thing that happened recently, I went to the Little Big Town in Sugarland concert.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, Ben was at that.

[Amy Brown]

Was he really? I did not see him see him. No. I did see a Little Big Town, though, and they were amazing. Sugar Land, though. Amy, I had like a. I want to know if you've had a full circle moment. Maybe it's similar like this or something happened. But I used to, you know, back when I wanted to be a little singer, I used to sing the baby girl song from Sugar Land, which is like, dear mom and dad, please send money.

[DJ Dramos]

I'm so broke it ain't funny. Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

And so I heard the song live for the first time because obviously Sugarland hadn't meant to, like, they had taken some time. And so this was like their first time back on tour. And I got to hear that song live for the first time since, like, I was young and singing that to my parents. And I'm like living in Nashville and I have this life here now. And that was always the thing.

[DJ Dramos]

Jennifer Nettles said that that song was a self fulfilling prophecy for her.

[Amy Brown]

Really, like where she sang it and it came true. Oh, see, that was like mine. I was like singing it to my parents. I was like, I'm move to Nashville one day. And it was specifically Nashville now. Different career paths, but like, it was Nashville always. And just like standing there and I'm like, I have this whole life and this career here and I'm living here. And I was like standing there crying. I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is so full circle in this moment.

[DJ Dramos]

Oh, yeah, that's a Goosebumps moment for sure. I mean, I have them right now for you.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, it was a. It was a cool moment. Have you had one of those where you're like, this is. This is it. This is this full circle moment?

[DJ Dramos]

Hmm, not that I can think of off the top of my head right now. And that one's pretty special. I mean, you just had it.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, it just so it's top of mind for me too, so. And I'm like throwing you out there because I didn't give you time to prepare this one.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, no, but even if you did, I mean, I feel like those are sometimes, like maybe I haven't had it yet or it's not in the moment. I do think I've had times where I get it. Like it all makes sense now.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, what's one of those moments?

[DJ Dramos]

I can't say them not. I mean, only because I would. It's just not my story. But so much makes sense now. Okay, this one I can say because we already talked about on the air, but when we got test tested for the dyslexia, we talked about this even recently on the show, but that was a moment where I got goosebumps and cried and had this full circle moment where it all made sense. Now I know it's a little bit different than like, I'm not sitting there listening to someone sing back my dream that I'm moving out, but it was sort of closure on something.

[Amy Brown]

It's also probably clarity for you for a long time because you didn't feel understood.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. I was like, oh, this all makes sense now. And yeah, there's a couple of other. There's very personal. And maybe one day I can. If there's a story too about. We'll call it Lunch with. I'll just say Lunch with Leslie because, like, nobody's ever gonna know. But I don't think I'll ever write a book. But if I do, one day I have the title and it's called Lunch with Leslie. And wait, why Lunch with Leslie? Can you say, I don't even know Leslie, but it changed my life.

[Amy Brown]

Hey, okay, this Leslie story that.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, it's so in the similar. I guess since we were talking about the dating stuff, sometimes you don't know why something is happening to you. You don't understand because you don't have the full picture. But then if you back up or once you've got some time, like you said with, you know, your ex boyfriend in August, when you broke up with you, you're devastated. And now that it's Christmas time, you're like, oh, this all makes sense now. So for me, I was going on a date with somebody and then I got a call from a friend. I was like, hey, are you still dating?

[Amy Brown]

So?

[DJ Dramos]

And so I was like, yeah, he's like about to pick me up. And she's like, well, I'm with Someone that's going to lunch with him tomorrow. And I was like, what? So I was just very confused. So, speaking of open and honest communication and mature communication, I said something to him, and then that led to us continuing to date other people because we weren't exclusive. I just was shocked. I just. I just wasn't used to adult dating. And I would talk to my therapist about it, not even about him, but just these. This whole idea of adult dating and going on dates and getting to know yourself and what do you want? What do you don't want? I don't think I really had a good handle of that anyway. But I didn't want to have to date multiple people to figure it out. It just didn't seem fun to me. But she's like, look, they don't have to be long dates. They don't have to be intense. Like, you can literally go to get a drink or have dinner with somebody or a hike for a first date. Seems a little weird. But you said you did that.

[Amy Brown]

We did a walk. It wasn't a. It wasn't like a hike where we were out and you didn't have cell service. It was like a walk at a golf course, kind of.

[DJ Dramos]

McCabe.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah. Good.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. Lots of people there.

[DJ Dramos]

Gotta make sure you're staying safe.

[Amy Brown]

And Remy was with me, so I wasn't alone.

[DJ Dramos]

So anyway, I confronted it. I feel like I'm telling this really slow because I'm, like, trying to be like, am I really telling this right now? And not that it even matters again, it's just like, not only my story.

[Amy Brown]

But it's also a moment that impacted your life.

[DJ Dramos]

It totally impacted my life because in that moment, I said, okay. I believe his response to me was sort of, well, that doesn't mean that I don't think that there's not a future us. I'm just trying to figure it out. And I said, okay, yeah, I have no idea if there's a future us and we can continue dating. And I am going to date because that is what I do. I adult date now. And I sort of said it like that. And he said to me something like, you're a really good communicator. And I said, well, thank you. I'm trying because I think I could have gone the entire day and not brought it up and held some resentment and then confusion or just huffed and puffed and, fine, I'm going to go out with other people. But I just decided in that moment, okay, we're gonna adult date. This is what adult Dating looks like. And so I did that. And that is what led me to figuring out through another friend that had wanted me to set. Had wanted to set me up with this one guy. And I would have never gone out with him because I was very much liking this other person. And I think I would have just. Settled's not the right word, because, again, we hadn't even had the exclusive talk, but we had been out enough to where that was happening, or at least in my mind. I was definitely shocked to hear that there was a lunch with Leslie. But it made me think about all the moments in life that are sort of. That it's that one thing that happens that just changes everything. And in that case, for me, it was. I'm like, hey, thank you. Lunch with Leslie. Because it got me out there, and I now have, you know, something that I'm really happy about. And it's weird and that I never. And the thing about this person is now I'm saying more than I thought I was ever gonna say.

[Amy Brown]

Hey, I'm not pushing it.

[DJ Dramos]

I know. I'm allowing you the space here. Anyway, I just had not. I had for months avoided this person. Well, I think not, because they're not a good person. I just was like, this would never work.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

So it's not gonna happen. And thank you, but I'm busy. I never spoke to him directly, by the way. It was through our friend.

[Amy Brown]

I'm really proud of you, though, because it's hard. Like, it is hard navigating dating, especially coming out of being married for years.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

And you're thrown into this new world and you're trying to understand, and people are complicated. Like, I don't think people realize on the scope of dating that you're dating someone as another human, and you think about your life, and your life is complicated. Right. And you're going to date this other person, and their life is complicated, too, but you can't understand it because you're just meeting each other for the first time. So it's not like you can sit there and be like, I have your whole story, and this is why you are the way that you are. You have to figure it out.

[DJ Dramos]

I made a lot of assumptions based on paper. Like, you know, how you could see someone's good on paper.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

I decided we were bad on paper, you know, but that was also.

[Amy Brown]

It was a version of you looking out for yourself.

[DJ Dramos]

And it's also a testament to timing, too, because had I accepted the connection way before, I wouldn't have been ready. I Had to go through more things and healing and growth. And honestly, even in going out, I wasn't trying to go out with the intent of, oh, this is gonna be something. I was going out just to learn more about myself. I'm like, okay, fine. Since I know this is a person, that's.

[Apple Music]

No.

[DJ Dramos]

On paper for me at least. I mean, it can be good practice. And I've even said that to him now, so it's not, like, hurtful. He totally gets it. And I'm like, look, I just kind of was like, oh, yeah, Well, I have people that want to date me too, you know?

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Dramos]

That's where you've got lunch tomorrow. Don't worry. People are. Been asking me out for a while.

[Amy Brown]

You're having. You're experiencing a lot of, like, firsts for the first time in that whole moment, too. Of, like, the feeling of a version of rejection, but not in a direct rejection. Right. Of, like, this is how he's setting this up. And you're also experiencing, like, okay, well, I like this person. But also, there's no communication here what is happening. Then you're experiencing, like, all these other influences where you're supposed to be casually dating and you're not exclusive. Like, you're experiencing in that moment so many firsts that you hadn't had. So, like, naturally, the experiences that you were having makes. Makes a lot of sense. Like, when you're looking at it now from a bird's eye view. You know what I mean? And they're just different variations of things you have experienced in life, but a completely different setting, people, subject.

[DJ Dramos]

Well, since I already said too much, I'm gonna go ahead and say, since people are listening to this and it's best bits, and if they're still listening at this point, I think that they're loyal fans of the show. So let's just keep it all between us here. Okay, thanks.

[Amy Brown]

We will. No voicemail. The big show. Leave it here. And it's just a fun girl chat that we just had with microphones. Is that good?

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, no, it's fine. I didn't even reveal anything. I know. It's not. I mean, people. I don't want anybody like, what. What's the big deal? Who cares? But it's just.

[Amy Brown]

You also have to remember, like, yes, I. I love your respect for other people. Of, like, it's not just my story. But also, you do have a story and you have a role in it, and it's your prerogative to do what you want with your story.

[DJ Dramos]

Right?

[Amy Brown]

So you're not saying anything bad.

[DJ Dramos]

I think down the line there will be some. Some room for some of that, because I do think it could be helpful for other people. Some of it. Some of the stuff that has come full circle, that makes sense now that when I was in the thick of it, it was so hard, but now it's like, oh, my gosh, that all makes sense now. And look where we are at this moment. And it's a place I never thought we could be. But, I mean, we all had to put in the work and sometimes you have to dig in and do the hard thing. Because I could have easily not done some of the hard things through several of these examples that I'm thinking of. And it could have gone a different direction, which wouldn't have been as healing and felt as full circle and probably wouldn't have made sense. I probably would still be living in chaos.

[Amy Brown]

I was gonna say, I don't feel like you would be where you are with who you are and what you're doing now. I don't just based on that, you know what I mean?

[DJ Dramos]

So I think that's just some encouragement sometimes to, like, dig in and. And do the hard thing because, yeah, you gotta forge ahead.

[Amy Brown]

Look at us having full circle moments before we head into the new year. 2024 has been a year.

[DJ Dramos]

Yeah, it has.

[Amy Brown]

So.

[DJ Dramos]

But not. I mean, it's so weird. Years are so different. I'm like, yeah, it has. But then when I think about it, I'm like, it's also been one of the best years I've had in a long time. I feel like for me, 2020-2021-2022-2023. Horrible.

[Amy Brown]

We're on the up and up, onward and upward.

[DJ Dramos]

That's right.

[Amy Brown]

I love it. Okay, we're getting out of here. Merry Christmas, everybody. Go check out Amy's podcast, four Things with Amy Brown. You can check out mine. Take this personally. And so much stuff is so much stuff. Again with the words. I started and ended with it. Words are hard. On our YouTube page, you can check out lots of segments, including our full Christmas show if you want to watch that. Okay, Amy, thank you for coming on. I loved our girl chat. It was fun. Dating wrapped with Amy and Morgan. W R A P Rap, rapt and goodbye, everybody. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Stay safe.

[DJ Dramos]

Bye.

[Amy Brown]

That's the best bits of the week with Morgan. Thanks for listening. Be sure to check out the other two parts this weekend. Go follow the show on all social platforms. Obbyboneshow. And follow ebgirlmorgan to submit your listener questions for next week's episode.

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