Best Bits: Making Adult Friends, Facing Burnout, & Too Many Appointments

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: Best Bits Episode Summary

Release Date: April 19, 2025
Episode: Best Bits: Making Adult Friends, Facing Burnout, & Too Many Appointments
Host: Mike D & Clayton English, with Morgan as the show’s announcer

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1. Personal Updates and Day-to-Day Life

[03:03] Mike D & Clayton:
The episode kicks off with Mike D mentioning he's dealing with a head cold, setting a relaxed and candid tone for the conversation.
Mike D: “If you hear my voice a little bit differently, that is because I have a little bit of a head cold. So we're just gonna ignore that.”
Clayton English: Shares his struggles with fluctuating body temperatures, highlighting how aging affects his thermal comfort.
Clayton: “I feel like I'm withering away. My bones are like, it's too cold in here.”

2. Navigating Social Interactions and Making Friends

[05:00] Making Friends through Shared Interests:
Clayton discusses his challenges in making new friends outside his immediate circle, particularly through running clubs.
Clayton: “I have not made any friends. I've said hi to more people on the trails.”
Mike D: Encourages Clayton to explore different avenues, emphasizing the value of surface friendships as a stepping stone.
Mike D: “Sometimes you need a little push. Sometimes that happens. And sometimes that's how you make really good friends.”

3. Overcoming Burnout and Investing in Self

[09:06] Facing Burnout:
Clayton opens up about experiencing burnout in his industry, feeling stuck in repetitive tasks, and the importance of investing time in personal passions.
Clayton: “I've been taking time to invest in myself. I hosted my first movie screening, which was nerve-wracking but also comforting.”
Mike D: Relates by sharing his own experiences with burnout, stressing the need to prioritize self-care to prevent life from becoming monotonous.
Mike D: “When that starts to happen, you feel like you're missing out on a lot of life and you're like, things are just passing you by.”

4. Enhancing Podcast Interview Skills

[11:24] Mastering Interviews:
Clayton delves into his feelings of inadequacy during podcast interviews, attributing them to over-preparation and imposter syndrome.
Clayton: “I feel like I suck at everything I do on my own, including interviews.”
Mike D: Offers valuable advice, encouraging Clayton to embrace his passion and allow conversations to flow naturally.
Mike D: “You can never look stupid for sharing your feelings and thoughts as you're processing something.”

5. Personal Life: Pets and Relationships

[26:02] Considering Pet Adoption:
Clayton debates adopting a dog, balancing his desire to support his wife with the practical challenges it would introduce to their spontaneous lifestyle.
Clayton: “Adding a dog will complicate travel plans, but I understand the responsibilities involved.”
Mike D: Suggests fostering pets as a compromise to gauge compatibility with their lifestyle.
Mike D: “You could foster both a dog and a cat. It allows you to see how an animal fits into your lives without long-term commitment initially.”

6. Orthodontic Journey and Self-Care Routines

[41:43] Clayton’s Orthodontic Progress:
Clayton shares his excitement about potentially removing his braces, detailing the rigorous process and his anticipation of newfound freedom.
Clayton: “I’ve been patient for too long now. That is the most exciting thing right now.”
Mike D: Relates by discussing his own retainer experience, highlighting the challenges of maintaining orthodontic care into adulthood.
Mike D: “I have a permanent retainer on my bottom teeth, so I don't wear a retainer.”

7. Listener Interaction: Emotional Connections

[49: Interaction with a Listener:**
Mike recounts a poignant story where his medical experience videos helped a listener understand her dog’s vertigo, emphasizing the unexpected ways content can impact others.
Mike D: “Someone reached out to me saying my videos gave her clarity and understanding during a tough time with her dog. It was emotional to know I helped her.”

8. Battling Burnout and Prioritizing Self-Care

[54:03] Managing Daily Stress:
Both hosts discuss their struggles with prioritizing basic self-care amidst busy schedules, touching on the importance of recognizing and addressing burnout.
Clayton: “Eating feels like something I do to fuel myself, not something to enjoy.”
Mike D: Shares his own challenges with maintaining routines like showering and eating properly, highlighting the pervasive effects of burnout.
Mike D: “Showering and eating have become luxuries for me.”

9. Final Thoughts and Encouragement

[58:48] Looking Ahead:
Concluding the episode, Clayton expresses hope for overcoming personal hurdles such as removing braces and making new friends, while Mike offers unwavering support and encouragement.
Clayton: “Hopefully, I come back with two updates: braces off and a surface friend.”
Mike D: Reaffirms his belief in Clayton’s progress, emphasizing mutual support.
Mike D: “I have faith, my hope, manifestation... All the things I believe in you, believing in me.”

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Notable Quotes

• Clayton English [09:49]: “Taking time to do things like hosting my first movie screening is how I break out of that burnout of feeling like I haven't done anything for myself in a while.”

• Mike D [16:17]: “Throwing out the questions is sometimes better. Just allowing yourself to have a conversation with another human being and just existing within that moment.”

• Clayton English [57:09]: “It just feels like dating again. When it was putting myself out there to find somebody to spend my life with. Now it's like putting yourself out there to find a friend.”

Conclusion

This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a heartfelt and honest conversation between hosts Mike D and Clayton English, touching on themes of personal growth, overcoming burnout, building friendships, and balancing personal responsibilities. Through their candid exchanges and mutual support, listeners gain insights into maintaining mental well-being, enhancing interpersonal relationships, and navigating the complexities of adult life.

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[Clayton]

The best bits of the week with.

[Morgan]

Morgan, Part 1 Behind the Scenes with a member of the show.

[Mike]

What's up, party people? It's Saturday morning, and Mike D. Is joining me. Hello, Mike.

[Clayton]

Hey, how are you?

[Mike]

I'm good. If you hear my voice a little bit differently, that is because I have a little bit of a head cold. So we're just gonna ignore that. Okay.

[Clayton]

That's why I asked. How are you?

[Mike]

Yeah, we are. I'm bundled in a blanket right now. I'm either incredibly warm or incredibly hot or incredibly cold. And there's no in between in my life right now.

[Clayton]

I usually run cold. Like, I usually get cold more than I get hot.

[Mike]

Really? You don't, like, ever, like, sweat profusely and you're like, holy crap.

[Clayton]

Not really. I'm usually on the opposite end. Like, it could be, like, 60, and I'm like, I'm freezing in here.

[Mike]

Okay. I've been feeling that lately, especially as I get older. Do you think that's a thing as we get older?

[Clayton]

I feel like I'm withering away. My bones are like, it's too cold in here.

[Mike]

Yeah. Because whenever I go to the retirement home, it's always so warm. Like, so warm. And I'm like, maybe that's a thing because we get older and then you get colder.

[Clayton]

Because I also find myself driving with, like, nothing. No AC on, no airflow whatsoever. And my wife hates it. I'm like, oh. I, like, thrive in the warmer. Just, like, car environment.

[Mike]

That's funny too, because most of the time, it's always the dudes who want, like, the air on below 60, you know, in the house or in the car. That's interesting.

[Clayton]

No, I like it just warm and muggy, I guess.

[Mike]

Do you guys fight over the temperature in the house?

[Clayton]

No, not really, because I've kind of gotten used to it, but I think it's more so in the car. Like, our sides of the car, complete opposites.

[Mike]

So she gets really hot and you get really cold.

[Clayton]

She'll crank it down all the way. And then I'm like, keep it, like, 72.

[Mike]

So what do you guys keep your house at most of the time?

[Clayton]

Probably like 74.

[Mike]

Okay. That is not an in between.

[Clayton]

But my wife also likes to save money. So she's like, I'm not spending that much money on electricity to keep it cold. So that's kind of where the balance comes in.

[Mike]

Okay, I see it now. Mike, I need an update. Have you gone and done a run club and have you made any new friends in a red club?

[Clayton]

I have not gone to a club. I have not made any friends. I've said hi to more people on the trails.

[Mike]

Okay. This is improvement.

[Clayton]

Like one of them happens to be like a 65 year old man who crushes it. But I finally got him to like acknowledge me before.

[Mike]

He just ignore you?

[Clayton]

Yeah. And he's the only person I've seen consistently for the last three years. And he like runs faster and more than I do. And I'm always just impressed by him. But he would just like keep going straight along. And I've had at least had him acknowledge me.

[Mike]

Did he give you like the head nod?

[Clayton]

Kind of like the head nod wave? There's like a runner wave.

[Mike]

There's a runner wave?

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

What is it?

[Clayton]

It's kind of like just to your side. You either do like a quick little like. It's kind of like putting out your fin.

[Mike]

That's funny. It's probably because like if you're moving, you don't want to like full wave. Your body is going forward so the momentum doesn't make sense.

[Clayton]

Yeah, just a quick, just.

[Mike]

It's kind of like a salute, but not. Yeah, just a quick salute.

[Clayton]

Cause like walkers usually like to say hello and they'll do like a full wave. Bikers don't say anything to you at all. They'll just try to run you over.

[Mike]

Or yell at you or on your left.

[Clayton]

But I feel like there's a bond between anybody I encounter who is running. Because you like feel that same pain. You feel that same like, oh, you're going through it right now. So they're just that runner's wave. Because you don't want to put too much energy into saying hello because it's like you're trying to conserve it all.

[Mike]

Isn't it funny how we have. Humans have created so many different variations of like hellos. Like there's the jeep wave, there's the runner's wave, there's the head nod. Like all these different lines of communication.

[Clayton]

Yeah, because there's also a Mexican high where it's. You throw your head back.

[Mike]

Wait, so you don't do like the head nod?

[Clayton]

No, it's the opposite of the head nodded.

[Mike]

You literally throw your head back.

[Clayton]

Throw your head Back. Sometimes you add in the arms. Like, that's a little bit more if you're trying to fight them. But sometimes just the head nod is like a salute to. Maybe it's a Mexican dude thing, but I feel like I've seen some ants do it as well.

[Mike]

Like, I've seen some ants throw hands. That's funny. It's so crazy. Humans are wild also. Like, who starts that one day? You know what I mean?

[Clayton]

I mean, I think it's just like, animals, too. Like, animals have different ways they say hi. So humans have different ways they say hi. Like, dogs sniff each other's butts. We do. Weird waves.

[Mike]

We do. We've added so many different things. It was funny. I follow the account. Good news movement. Have you heard of that one?

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

They posted a video of these two guys in Argentina, and they were on the street in their cars, and they were, like, yelling at each other from their cars. And they're, like, angry over road rage. And then as they got, like, closer to each other, they realized they were friends and then, like, hugged each other. And I was like, that's such a weird. And then you see the wives come out of the cars and also, like, embrace each other. And I was like, what an interesting way of approaching each other. And it was like, all in the comments was like, oh, yeah, this is the Argentina way.

[Clayton]

That's why I don't have road rage. Because I always worry that it's going to be somebody that I know, like, especially, like, leaving work. I'm like, I'm not yelling at anybody, honking at anybody, because chances are we, like, pull into the same garage. Like, oh, crap, we both work here.

[Mike]

That has for sure happened to me before where, like, we're going to the same place, or, like, if you're fighting over kind of a parking spot and who's gonna get it? And you get it. And then you end up walking in at the same time and you're like, well, this is awkward. Yeah, that happened to me at Pilates the other day.

[Clayton]

That's really awkward.

[Mike]

Yeah. So there was two spaces, but one of them was a handicap space. This girl pulled into the handicap space. I don't know if she thought I was trying to fight her over it, but I was like, I know that's a handicap space, but sure, you can have it. And then, like, I pulled into the other one, and we, like, literally start walking in at the same time. I was like, I feel really uncomfortable because, like, you might get a ticket, but it's fine. It was an Awkward moment. Okay, Mike, I need updates on life. How's your wife, Kelsey? How is life in general? Any new things going on?

[Clayton]

We are good right now. I think I have been focused on the word I told you was gonna be my word of the year. Invest.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

And I've been taking time to invest in myself. And I think it's because in this industry, in any industry, you go through burnout where you just feel like, man, I'm doing the same thing over and over again. Everything's still great, but I kind of feel like I want to do some more things that are for me. And I think I've done that in the last month of focusing on the things I've been wanting to do for a while, and that has been primarily with my podcast and trying to branch out a little more. So I've taken on some events that I never thought I would do. Like I hosted my first movie screening.

[Mike]

I saw that.

[Clayton]

Which was kind of taking myself out of my comfort zone, but also what I'm comfortable with because I've spent time on a stage, I've done things like that, just not in that capacity. So it was nerve wracking, but also comforting at the same time.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

And I think just taking time to do things like that is kind of how I break out of that burnout of feeling like, okay, I still have all these other things I need to do, but I kind of have to prioritize some time for things that I want to do that make me feel, like, alive. Because I think we just start doing things over and over again and we're like, man, like, I feel like I haven't done anything for myself in a while. It still works though. So I'm still doing things like career driven, but it just kind of feels like a fresh. Just like, ah, this feels good again.

[Mike]

Yeah. You become in that routine of the work to live rather than like living and working and it's not a fun place to be. When that starts to happen. You feel like you're missing out on a lot of life and you're like, things are just passing you by and you wake up, it's like three years later and you've missed everything that happens.

[Clayton]

Yeah. The time passing is just crazy when you get older and you just see like, man, like three years have gone by, like, what do I have to show for it?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

So in like the last month, I've kind of just been just focused on that, doing more interviews with my podcast, which is something I've just been trying to get better At. And I just find myself at times feeling like I suck at it, but I know that I need the reps to be able to do it more.

[Mike]

You feel like you suck at interviews?

[Clayton]

Oh, yeah. I feel like I suck at everything. Anything I do on my own, I feel like I suck at you.

[Mike]

Don't. Let me reassure you that you don't. Your interviews are awesome, and you're great at what you do. But I also understand, like, this. It's called imposter syndrome.

[Clayton]

Yeah. I don't even know if exactly. Exactly if it's imposter syndrome. I just feel that I'm somebody who gets so prepared. Like, I'm over prepared for an interview. I read all about the person for me. I have to watch a movie for every interview, which I love to do, and that's like my favorite thing. And I feel like I get in my head too much of, like, oh, I have all these perfect questions I want to ask. And then in the moment, I'm like, I lose myself, and I'm like, I don't know how. I take how I feel about things and translate it back into here without me sounding like an idiot or without me getting to everything, or without me feeling like I didn't have a good conversation at the end of it. So I still feel like there's a learning thing I need to get over in that process. When I listen back to him, I'm like, oh, that's not as bad as it felt in the moment. Like, in the moment, I feel like, oh, I'm ruining this right now. And then later I listen back or cut clips from it, and I'm like, oh, it's actually not bad.

[Mike]

I feel like there's two things I've really learned when it's come to interviews, and one being, you can never be weird for geeking out. People love when people geek out, even if it's over them or over something they did. Like, people love seeing people being passionate, especially if it's about things that, like, there's similar things that they're also passionate about. So I don't feel like you're ever gonna look stupid for, like, sharing your feelings and thoughts as you're, like, processing something. I think that's one thing that's kind of a misconception about interviews because we. Especially when. Especially for you, you're gonna get actors and these people that you've probably looked up to or watched a lot of their stuff. I think so much of what they do as an artist wants to be seen in that way. They'd rather someone be so excited and passionate or, like, have a lot of questions about what they've done than somebody who just comes to him, says, this is really cool. You did a good job. Can you tell me why you came up with that? You know what I mean? So you can never not geek out enough. And two, throwing out the questions is sometimes better. And just allowing yourself to have a conversation with another human being and just existing within that moment rather than being like, I have to hit all of these things. Whether it's for fans of the movie or fans of a certain type of thing that's that person is involved with. Like, sometimes throwing out that rule book of these are important things to get to is necessary to get to, like, a really good interview. There's been times where I've, like, prepped for interviews and they will just go in a completely different direction. And it's worth it. It's always been worth it. Never once where I was like, dang, I should have stayed on my track. I was like, no, we got somewhere so much better and so much deeper. So those two things are things that I feel like I've really learned in interviews. I don't know if that helps at all.

[Clayton]

I think that's good advice because I think listening to you say that and thinking of, like, how I would go into some of these is I would try to emulate some of the people I like a little bit too much. Because there's some interviewers, interviewers that I like that get to the point really quickly and ask questions. And I'm like, ah, like, that's just a great formulated question. And I think I've tried to do that too much where I'm like, I need to scale it back because I need to think about how I approach even how I talk about movies, where it's more from a place of passion and a place of, like, how things make me feel. I was like, I got to focus on that more. I got to stop trying to be the guy who's going to ask questions that is going to, like, rattle them or blow their minds. A little bit of like, oh, he went into this amount of depth for this question. I think I got to get away from that and just talk how I talk about stuff on my podcast.

[Mike]

Yeah. Because it's also hard sometimes getting to the point leaves out a lot of the, like, vulnerable good moments sometimes when you just make them, like, get to this, like, very, like, yes, it may be deep and maybe like, oh, I've never heard that question before. But most of the time, when you allow them to just, like, be passionate and excited, that you end up getting stuff that they would never say anyway because they're excited and they're passionate.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I think you nailed it right there. I'm always trying to, like. I think that's the best thing as an interviewer is somebody saying, I've never been asked that before, and I've been chasing that too much, where I'm like, I'm getting way too specific. I'm just trying too hard in that capacity. Yeah, I need to just ask them. Sometimes it feels like you're not trying as hard when you ask more simple questions. But sometimes I find, like, just keeping it simple just helps it breathe a little bit.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I don't think. Here's the thing, too. Like, there is probably a side of this where you're interviewing people who are on these circuits and they're getting so many of the same questions. But I think when you get to geek out is when you start asking questions that they've never heard. Because so many of those people who are in those circuits are in the media and they're not watching or they're not really in depth into the movie space. They're probably more involved with them as an actor or as a person. So them getting to, like, really geek out about, like, their art and their project is going to be something that they're not having much experience with already. So you leaning into that side, I think, is going to accomplish that without trying. I don't know if that makes any sense.

[Clayton]

It does.

[Mike]

It made sense in my brain as I was saying.

[Clayton]

No, it does, because that is. The battle I have is they are on circuits where they're doing one after another for two to three hours. And I'm like, they're probably burnt by the time they get to me. They've been answering the same question over and over. But there are certain questions I need to get that I feel are the best representation. I'm like, gosh, how do you do it? And then I also get shorter amounts of time. It's like 10, 15 minutes most times because they are in these circuits, and it's like, very limited. So I'm like, I gotta just come right out of the gate and try to get something out of them quickly.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think. I think maybe more of a strategy is like, you asked your two things that you have to ask for, like, necessity, and then you just start geeking out. Especially if you love something, if you watch something, and you were so excited about it. I know there's. Sometimes you watch it. No, it wasn't very good. But you watch something, you get excited about it and you have an interview with one of them, be excited about it. I think we get so caught up in this idea of, like, trying to work in other people's perceptions. And the best interviews are always the ones where you just be who you are and allow that to come through. Those are the ones that are. People enjoy listening to too.

[Clayton]

That is something somebody asked me recently on. I think they DM me on Instagram was, what do you do if you don't like the movie? They. They did.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

I find that I've been lucky that most everybody I've interviewed, I've actually enjoyed their work just because I find if I don't, I usually won't take it because it's really hard when it's so focused on the movie to not like it. It come from a place. And it depends because I feel like I could find something in anything even if I didn't like the movie. I could find something of the elements of filmmaking or other work that they've done that I could ask them about without me saying that I didn't like this movie. It's really hard to do. So I don't normally do that, but for the most part, I think there's something you can find in anything, even if the project is bad. But I won't lie and say that I liked a movie that I didn't like and I won't give it a good review if I did it. I just kind of will tiptoe around it.

[Mike]

Yeah, you, like, find other ways to talk about different pieces.

[Clayton]

Because also somebody will like it. Like, if I don't like it, somebody else will like it. And I think that's always the. The perspective I try to give in my reviews. Like, I hated this. But if you like so and so, you might enjoy it. So I don't try to ruin other people from enjoying something. I just give you my honest opinion.

[Mike]

Yeah, you and I have had various, like, opposite reviews on a lot of things. But every time I'm like, no, I respect it. Like, that's a fair point. But also I still feel the way that I feel.

[Clayton]

I think that's why I like doing this is because it is subjective. Like, just because I say I like something doesn't mean that that thing is actually good. Yeah, you could watch it and hate it. That's why I enjoy. And I enjoy the debate of people who like something that I don't like or don't like something that I like. That's what makes it fun. And also, like, when you're talking about movies, it doesn't feel as rage filled when you're, like, arguing about politics or something. Because it's like nobody's, Nobody's right here. It's all fiction.

[Mike]

Yeah. Nobody's going to die.

[Clayton]

Yeah. There's no real. It's all opinion.

[Mike]

Yeah. There's a lot of, like, you don't have, like, punishment for not feeling how you feel. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna come back and get some more updates from Mike.

[Morgan]

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Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Courtside with Laura Carenti Starting April 3rd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[Mike]

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back in a big way.

[Clayton]

In a very big way.

[Morgan]

Real people, real perspectives.

[Mike]

This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow.

[Clayton]

Players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

[Mike]

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[Clayton]

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[Mike]

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[Morgan]

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[Clayton]

We need to change things.

[Mike]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.

[Clayton]

It really does. It makes it real.

[Mike]

Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Morgan]

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[Mike]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

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[Mike]

Okay.

[Morgan]

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[Clayton]

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[Morgan]

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[Mike]

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[Morgan]

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[Mike]

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[Morgan]

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[Mike]

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[Clayton]

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[Morgan]

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[Mike]

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[Morgan]

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[Mike]

We got on a little rant there about movies and topics which I know is fun for you to always talk about, but I know, like, you also have your own podcast about that, so I try and avoid it. I do wanna hear about, like, your wife, how are things going with your wife and other stuff outside of work. We focus on work. Let's focus outside of work.

[Clayton]

Outside of work. She is trying to convince me we need to get a every single day.

[Mike]

Yeah. You still haven't caved.

[Clayton]

Still haven't caved. But I'm closer to it.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Clayton]

Because I think she makes really good points of. She just wants somebody who, because she works from home four out of the five days of the week, she was like, I just need somebody here to like hang out with me.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

And I think I'm at that point where I could see it because what's.

[Mike]

Your hold up so far?

[Clayton]

The only thing is, like, right now, I like the ability for us to be able to leave on a whim. We like to travel and we like to book last minute trips. Like we just booked a trip to go home next month and it was kind of like, okay, we can, we can make it. Get everything in line. We can go. I feel like adding in a dog will complicate that. But I also don't think we're going to be like that forever. Right now, like, I feel like we have another year or two before we start thinking about kids. That we have this window that we want to be, like, have no restraints. That's really my only holdup at the moment. And also just I think me having to contribute to that as well. Like, I know, like she really wants a dog and said like, it's almost like if, like a kid really wants a dog, like, no, I'll take care of it, I'll walk it, I'll feed it. And I know I'll take on some of that responsibility because I will. And I'll eventually grow to find a way to fit that into everything. But I think right now that feels a little overwhelming still. So that's still my only hang up. And the fact that, like, it's so easy to just get out of here if we want to and not worry about that, because that is hard to do.

[Mike]

It is.

[Clayton]

Because what do you do when you, when you leave town?

[Mike]

I have to have friends. I like calling all my friends. I'm like, okay, who can come stay at the house? And it's like, I don't even like sending that text sometimes just because it feels like I'm asking somebody to like, really help and contribute to my life. And it's tough. Like, it really does add a thing. I've learned how to travel with them a lot. I've had to just. It's like, okay, if I really want to go somewhere on a whim, like a weekend trip, okay, where can I go that I can drive? And they're tagging along. That's kind of the attitude I've had to change around it. But then when I really want to go on other trips, it's finding people to watch them. And how does that work? And I kind of set myself up for a lot of friends to watch. And like, sometimes I'll drive home and literally drop them off with my parents. And I'm like, okay, thanks guys. But I have to drive 22 hours of my life to make that happen. But in all honesty, that is so worth it to me. That's like a. They are so worth it. It's worth that trade off for me to travel a few times a year to. To kind of change my, my routes and what I have to do. I will say though, I do think you guys could start fostering and I think that would help.

[Clayton]

That's probably. Yeah, that's probably a good in between.

[Mike]

I think it would allow her to have somebody there all the time and it would allow you to see how an animal would fit into your guys's lifestyle.

[Clayton]

How about the way she is? I could just see her like, no, we're not giving them back. We're adopting.

[Mike]

That is true. And you've said that before. But it could be like, you're like, hey, I'm willing to, like, give this a shot. Let's Just foster and see how this goes and let me see how I feel. And if you can, like, get her to be on in agreement with you of, like, this isn't a guarantee. Like, this is what I want, but, like, I need to see how I'm gonna be able to fit this into my life, and just maybe that's an option.

[Clayton]

Yeah. The compromise I would make with her is we could foster a dog, but we also have to foster a cat.

[Mike]

Yeah, you totally should.

[Clayton]

I'm more of a cat guy, and she's not.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

I'm like, I grew up having cats. I love cats. Every now and then, we'll get a cat who comes the house just to chill, and I'll feed them. I'll hang out with them.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

And then they go about their way. I just love. I. I just love cats. I like the bonding of it.

[Mike]

They are more independent.

[Clayton]

They. I think that's why, because they kind of chill, do their own thing. They'll come over, show you a little affection, and they're like, all right, I'm good, man. Just feed me. Give me some water, and I'm good.

[Mike]

Yeah, you totally could. You could totally foster. Listen, I got a rescue that saves dogs and cats, so you can foster both. And I love both. I have one of each, and they're. They're vastly different, but, like, my. And maybe we need to get Kelsey to meet my cat, because everybody who's not a cat person meets my cat, and they're like, oh, I like cats. You have to have had the right interaction, because there are a lot of mean cats. Like, cats are. They're sassy, and they have a personality, but, like, Siamese. Growing up with them, they act like dogs. They're very, like, attentive, and they really want to be around you. They're not like. Like, my cat would love to be next to me and on my lap at all hours of every day. Whereas some cats are like, no, don't touch me. I'll come to you when I want to hang out. You know that, like, there's different personality types. So maybe we need to get her to meet my cat so then she can be open to the idea of also fostering a cat, and then you guys both get something here.

[Clayton]

How is that integrating a dog and a cat? Do they really fight at the very beginning? Is it kind of like an adjustment? Because I remember even when I would have two cats, they would kind of feel each other out a little bit. They'd, like, hiss at each other, kind of chase each Other. And then they'd be cool after a while.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Especially because, listen, Remy, my dog is. She is an only child. She wanted to be an only child her entire life. That is all she ever wanted. So when I first started fostering Hazel, it was for sure an adjustment for her. And they would have moments like, Hazel's got a solid left right hook on her. So solid. I have to keep those nails trimmed all the time, because if Remy gets too close and they're, like, having a moment, it is fight WWE in my kitchen.

[Clayton]

So it still happens. It's not even just, okay, yeah.

[Mike]

It just takes, like, they have so much. So many more moments now where they coexist so well. And they both greet me at the back door, no issues. And they've kind of, like, found their spaces to dominate. But Remy is super possessive over the couch, and I'm not really sure why. Like, you would think she's possessive over her food or her toys, which. Like food. She's fine. She knows she's gonna be fed all the time. Toys. She has her moments. But the couch. There's something about the couch that when Hazel, like, tries to be on it when I'm on it, it's like, it really is wwe. So I'm working on Remy to try and be like, girlfriend. There's lots of room on this couch for multiple animals, but that's still always a work in progress. Besides that, we've come a really long way. It was. It was an adjustment, for sure. But I also introduced two adult animals. I think it is a lot easier when you introduce younger animals together because.

[Clayton]

They just get more used to it. It's like, oh, this is just normal.

[Mike]

Yeah. Like, Remy was 8 years old when I adopted Hazel. Hazel was also 8 years old when I adopted her. Did I say that right? Yeah. Remy was 8 years old when I adopted Hazel, and Hazel was 8 when I adopted her. So they were both adult cat. Adult animals, like, already very stuck in their own ways. And I'm like, here, figure it out. So I do think it helps when they're a little bit younger. So you're not like, Remy had eight years of her life where it was just her, and then Hazel had eight years of her life where she was around 130 other cats. So we were dealing with a lot of variables there.

[Clayton]

That'd be hard for humans. I can imagine pets.

[Mike]

Yeah, but you can. And there's so many people who have dogs and cats, and they get along and they cuddle all the time. So you just find Maybe you start with a cat, and then you. Every time you foster a dog, you make sure that it is cat friendly, because that's always a thing. I've had plenty of fosters who are great with cats, but then I found the one little gremlin from the street, and she wanted to chase my cat. So they all have their things, their little personalities. But I do think this is a. A compromise and a way in for you guys, for sure. Just an idea.

[Clayton]

I think she'll love that idea because.

[Mike]

Then you can help too. And you can both start to feel out, like, what feels right for you guys instead of just like, throwing yourselves to the wolves and you're like, well, we have a dog, and this is where we're at, you know? Because I do think a lot of people do that, and they're like, what do we get ourselves into? Not in a bad way. It's just. It is a lifestyle change for sure. I always have to think about them, like, okay, we're done with work. I gotta run home. Gotta let all the animals, like, they're. They're missing me. It's a process for sure, but I'll be excited when you guys do. I think you guys will be great pet parents.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I think so, too. I think it'll grow on me.

[Mike]

Yeah. You're like, maybe, but I totally. I didn't know you were a cat person. I love that.

[Clayton]

Oh, yeah. Like, I. I've always loved cats since I was a kid. Like, in the trailer park, there was always stray cats, and I'd be the one who would feed them, so they would all come to our trailer to hang out.

[Mike]

Were your parents like, why are all these cats around?

[Clayton]

Yeah. And then they would just kind of embrace it. And then I made them cat people now because they have, like, maybe four cats at home.

[Mike]

That's amazing.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

See? And they're awesome. I'm a huge cat lover. But there's. More often than not, people don't like cats. But I think it's most of the time they've had a bad experience with them. And they're also. They can scratch you.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I guess that's the thing.

[Mike]

When I first cut Hazel's nails, I was like, oh, okay. I. I literally was like, in head to head to toe. I even had gloves on. Like, not. Not like a latex glove. Like, gloves that you'd wear in the winter time. I was so prepared for her to just, like, scratch the crap out of me. And she just literally sat there like, okay, fine, just get this over with, like, no big deal. I was like, cool. I really appreciate this because we're gonna have to do it like, once a week.

[Clayton]

I mean, my cat that we had in from, like, maybe middle school to high school would be my alarm clock for school every morning.

[Mike]

I love that, like, he would wake.

[Clayton]

Me up as soon as he started, like, digging into my back. I was like, oh, time to wake up for school.

[Mike]

Is it so cool when they open the biscuit factory? This is my favorite thing. That's what I call it.

[Clayton]

Oh, the biscuit. Oh, okay.

[Mike]

The kneading.

[Clayton]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

You're looking at me like, what are you talking about?

[Clayton]

My cat didn't have a job.

[Mike]

You know, when they knead. Yeah, I call it the biscuit factory is open because Hazel goes to town on some biscuits, man. It's a whole thing. Okay, we're gonna take one more quick break. We'll be right back.

[Morgan]

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[Mike]

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.

[Clayton]

In a very big way.

[Morgan]

Real people, real perspectives.

[Mike]

This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow.

[Clayton]

Players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

[Mike]

Music stars Marcus K. John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.

[Clayton]

Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown.

[Mike]

Got Be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corvette MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.

[Morgan]

What we're doing now isn't working and.

[Clayton]

We need to change things.

[Mike]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.

[Clayton]

It really does. It makes it real.

[Mike]

Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Morgan]

In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Mike]

Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body parts that looked exactly like my own.

[Clayton]

I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream.

[Morgan]

It happened in Levittown, New York. But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography. This should be illegal, but what is this? This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carvell. This is Levittown, a new podcast from.

[Mike]

Iheart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope.

[Morgan]

Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are your ears bored?

[Mike]

Yeah. Are you looking for a new podcast.

[Morgan]

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[Mike]

Okay.

[Morgan]

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[Clayton]

You could turn on the tv, you.

[Morgan]

See Talia, you see jlo, Nino, the sky, Evie Queen, all the girlies doing their things, all of the beauty reflected right back at us. It was everything. Tune in to locatora radio season 10. Now that's what I call a podcast. Listen to Locatora Radio Season 10 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mike]

All right, Mike, any other life updates before we get into some random questions?

[Clayton]

I feel like I'm pretty close to getting my braces off. I had an orthodontist appointment yesterday and they're like, it's looking good. I have a dentist appointment coming up. This is the thing. I've been just driving myself crazy with going back and forth between orthodontist and dentists. So I have another dentist appointment where they're going to look at the spacing in my teeth. And if they say it's good to go to get the bridge placed in there now, maybe in the next month or so, that process begins. I don't know how long that process is yet because I've been asking them for so long. And they're like, we don't want to give you a timeline at this moment, but I think soon they'll come off. And I don't know how long the other process is going to be because I'm just trying to get over one hurdle.

[Mike]

Yeah. And it's probably better to just focus on one.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Then be like, okay, there's eight different timelines in my brain. That's exciting.

[Clayton]

Yeah. Because I'm just tired of having things poke me in the mouth and, like, scraping me. I'm just tired of having them that I've kind of reached that point of, like, I don't want to wait Any longer. I've been patient for too long now, so I think that's probably the most exciting thing right now. That is exciting because I remember that feeling when I had him off briefly of like being able to like, touch my teeth for the first time and it just felt freeing and liberating.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

So I kind of want that all the time. I'm also starting to think about the post process of like, wearing a retainer and all those things, which is going to suck, but I think that's worth it.

[Mike]

It is. And as somebody who notoriously did not wear her retainer and then had to get invisalign later in life where the retainer. Wear the frickin retainer. I also got the permanent one on my bottom teeth, so I don't wear a retainer.

[Clayton]

You have a permanent retainer?

[Mike]

Yeah, you can see it here. I'm sorry you guys aren't gonna see it on the podcast, but.

[Clayton]

Okay.

[Mike]

Here. It's like a little silver. It's literally just on my front teeth.

[Clayton]

Do you take it out and put it in your state?

[Mike]

It's in all the time.

[Clayton]

Dang. I didn't know they did that.

[Mike]

My bottom teeth moved so much. That was really where my problem was, was my bottom teeth. And I. I am really good about wearing my top retainer, but I also have all kinds of jaw problems and I've just kind of ignored them. I have too many other things to worry about. But they were like, you could put this in and it's not a full retainer. So I don't have anything on my back teeth. It's just this little like, metal bar that they sealed on like my two canines and then it's right with the. The front teeth. So that could be an option.

[Clayton]

I didn't know that was a thing. I'm gonna ask about that. Yeah, I've been learning all these things that are things that you can put in your mouth. Yeah.

[Mike]

I'm not gonna take that that way, Mike. But yes, it is an option because I just didn't trust myself with my bottom teeth. I trusted myself with my top for some reason, but not my bottom. So you can do it and it doesn't. The only thing that sucks is like, you can't floss regularly. Like use like a pick or whatever.

[Clayton]

I mean, I can't really do regular floss right now. I've been able to do it for. I think it's like this giant floss that sucks.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And that's what kind of. You have to use this, like Needle thread, if you really want to floss them, which I'll do once a week, But I use water, floss, pick thing, whatever they're called. I can't think of the name right now, but I use that, and it works just fine. Every time I go to the dentist, every six months, they're like, yeah, you look good. I'm like, sweet. Cool. It's working. So option.

[Clayton]

I guess that's the part that blows my mind, like, how long I've been wearing these. That if you don't wear that, it can take some away. I'm like, how. Like, how do they move back?

[Mike]

I know it is. It like, they. And they move crazy amounts. Mike, you should have seen mine. Like, I had full orthodontist work for seven years when I was a kid. And then I. Rebellion. Never wore any of my retainers. At one point, I was wearing them, and then I'd pop them out in the middle of night, like, while I was sleeping. That's how much I hated them. And I'd wake up, and they'd be like, on my face, like, okay. Don't really know how that happened. And then they just. I stopped wearing them, and they wouldn't fit anymore. They were too tight because my mouth had already moved so much within even, like, a month. Month. It's wild.

[Clayton]

It is. Because, like, this space that we've been trying to make is literally, like, millimeters. They've been looking at, like, maybe even less than that. And it's taken. Taken months for that. And to think that if I don't wear a retainer for, like, I don't know, like, a month, it all goes away. I'm like, how does it move back quicker than it does straighten?

[Mike]

Yep. I. Trust me. I don't understand the teeth. And maybe it's different as you get older. Maybe they don't move quite as much, but I don't know that exact science of things. So exciting, though.

[Clayton]

Yeah. I think the thing I'm ready to be done with is the fact that when I go in, it's mostly all teenagers and kids, and I'm, like, the only adult. They're always, like, so surprised of how well I take everything.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

I'm like, I don't care about the pain. Like, I don't.

[Mike]

You're like, I'm in my 30s. What did you expect?

[Clayton]

I was like, I. I don't know what you expect for me to, like, act like these other patients in here. Like, I. I know how to do this. I'm. I also, like, I Pay attention to all the things they tell me to do, and I'm not going to, like, defy it. Like, I'm so good at, like, following all those rules and, like, not eating the foods I'm not supposed to eat because I, like, break a bracket or whatever. I feel like they're always surprised by that. They're like, oh, we don't have to, like, get on to you about things. You take care of your teeth. I'm like, yeah, like, I'm paying for this.

[Mike]

Yeah. You're like, no, this is my hard earned money.

[Clayton]

I come here every month for like an hour. I'm not going to mess everything up.

[Mike]

Oh, man. Well, hopefully that means by next best bits, you'll maybe have them off.

[Clayton]

Maybe.

[Mike]

Maybe.

[Clayton]

Because I have another ortho appointment again in a month from now, so maybe I'm at least at the point where I'm going in to find out that. Yeah, I'm still thinking, like, two months.

[Mike]

Well, here's the thing, though, too. I bet more than anything, what you're excited about is just not to have all those appointments anymore.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Because it's a lot. It's a lot of work. And for how long you've had them on, like, it's just become so part of your routine. I remember when I got my Lasik done and I had been using contacts and glasses my whole life. When I got to take out, like, my step of not wearing contacts in the morning and at night, I was like, dang, I just gained like 30 minutes back to my life. It was wild because, Yeah, I mean.

[Clayton]

It'S like an hour appointment, but you have to factor in, like, the time it takes to get there, time it takes to get back. Every time it comes up that week, I'm like, I gotta structure my whole week around this. What up? What appointment?

[Mike]

Yep.

[Clayton]

And it's ortho and dentist.

[Mike]

Yeah. So you have like a double whammy happening all the time.

[Clayton]

Luckily, mine are right next to each other, so I try to plot it out. Or I can set the appointments back to back. And they've been pretty good because they're like, they know each other and they like, oh, yeah, you go here, then you go there.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Clayton]

So I can knock out everything for the most part. If I have to go to both, I'll try to do it in the same visit, but then that goes away.

[Mike]

And it'll all go and you'll get so much time back. You're like, dang, what is my life? I'm telling you, it's A game changer. Okay. I wanted to ask you. I had this kind of crazy moment with a listener, and I think I saw on your Facebook page you had posted something, too, about your running and a listener. I wanted you to share that because I had a listener reach out to me, and it was, like, actually really sad because she had lost her dog. But what was wild was her dog, in the last moments, was experiencing vertigo. And she wouldn't have known it if she hadn't seen my videos of my eyes. Her dog's eyes were doing what mine were doing, and it gave her, like, some clarity and understanding what was happening to her dog, and she had no idea. And it was a really weird and, like, horrible connection. Not a connection that I would have wanted for her, but also she was really thankful that I had, like, posted, like, my insane medical experiences. And it was, like, important. It felt important, and it mattered in a way. And I just haven't had that kind of connection with a listener in, like, a hot minute. You get to meet them, and everybody's so kind, and it's so special. But that was just like, okay, I know I'm posting these, like, silly videos about my life experiences, but they matter, and it's gonna, like, help somebody. And just to know that I helped the listener. Not only that, but just, like, help feel some version of closure and understanding. Like, it was. I was so emotional when I got that message.

[Clayton]

I also didn't know dogs could also get vertigo.

[Mike]

I think they. I believe, like, it's very rare, but they can, and it's not. And it's even harder for them because, like, you imagine it's happening to me, and I'm already sitting there, like, I have no idea what's happening to my body when it first happened.

[Clayton]

And you can't. You can. You can hardly explain that to somebody.

[Mike]

Yeah. Let alone, like, a dog. And you, you're like, what is happening in your dog? Like, you probably think it's having a seizure and all these things. So it was just a really cool but unfortunate moment. And I'm so, so heartbroken for them that this happened, but also just happy that the information was there and available to her to have. So I wanted to share that because I feel like it's important. Sometimes we get so lost in the mundane of, like, what we're doing doesn't really matter, and.

[Clayton]

Oh, yeah. You know, and you also just never know what's going to connect. And you post something like that, and somebody like, oh, I think I've experienced that too. Or I Think something like that is.

[Mike]

Happening to me now and you start to feel okay, like, this is worth it. My silly videos, I know they're crazy, but it's helping people. So it felt really good. And I saw you share something and I wanted you to share that kind of running story.

[Clayton]

Yeah, that was kind of a thing that I was. Have been experiencing lately of like, physically, I haven't felt, like, great about my body and like, how I feel. Like, just feel. Overall, I haven't felt comfortable in my clothes. And I started thinking about that my body has been allowing me to run, work out, and do the things that I want to do in life. And I realized that that kind of started to have more value than how I feel about myself. And I started thinking about, like, my running. Like, I'm able to run for hours at a time and like, my body has the strengths to do that, even though I feel like I'm not the most comfortable. Like, my body is strong and it has the ability to push me. And I just started to approach running differently lately of like, I don't have to run. I, like, I get to run because sometimes it's. It's hard to do. Like, it's hard to do any kind of workout. You're like, I don't want to do this. I'm not feeling great. I'm feeling tired. What is it even going to change? But if I have that ability now, I have to do it because someday I won't be able to. And that's gonna suck when I physically can't. And I'm gonna think back on those times where I wanted to and just. Or when I could do it and just didn't want to do it. And I think just in life I've been able to learn from other people who've had that same type of feeling of thinking, like, they didn't know what they had until they lost it. And I didn't want to get to that point. Like, I've been lucky in life, life to not have had major losses in my life or major. Just tragedies or traumas that people go through. A lot of people going through a lot right now. And I haven't had to experience that personally to learn from it. So I think that's where this whole post came from is like, I just said, like, hey, like, I run because I can right now. Someday I won't be able to. And I got a comment from a listener who said that she used to love, you know, walking. That was a big part of her life. And Then she's had some health issues recently that she's not been able to do that and how much she just wants to get out there and just walk. And I thought just walking, like, that's just like a little thing we take for granted to be able to walk somewhere. So I replied to her and I'm like, next round I'm doing. I'm dedicating it to you. And I did. I went for a run the next day. I posted about it. Just for anybody else who maybe is going through something like that of not being able to do the thing they love right now. And I just didn't want to get to a point where I took that for granted anymore. And I know there's a lot of people out there with health issues right now that I just started reading the comments. It's like, man, like, this sucks. But if I could do something like that for somebody just to feel like, oh, they acknowledge that and they're not taking it for granted, I think that meant a little bit.

[Mike]

No, it absolutely did. And I'm sure to her, she was like, oh, somebody's validating this experience that I'm having. And it probably felt really good to her to just feel that from someone who she's connecting with on that level. So it did. That's why I wanted you to share it. And it's special. Like, so often it's really easy to get caught up in what we're doing. And just like, as we were talking in the beginning, the burnout and gosh, Mike, the days I've been having lately where I'm like, I work all the time. I don't have time to do any of this stuff. Like, I was just telling somebody the other day, I was like, the lowest thing on my totem pole is like, my. My like, literal showering. If I get a shower, it's a good day. And they're like, well, when's the last time? I was like, two days ago. And it wasn't like, you know, not body shower. I'm talking like my full shower. Because that's an experience. Yes, thank you. As a woman, you have the air breathing shower where you actually wash your hair. And they're like, dang, like, you can't do that. And then the other night, a friend came over and we're about to go to a concert and I was literally eating olives. I was like, here's my dinner. And she's like, no, you need to eat. I'm like, I haven't had time to eat. It's just not in my. Like, there's so many other things I have to do that, like eating and showering have become luxuries.

[Clayton]

I feel that way about eating where it's. It just feels like something I do to fuel myself. And I'm like, some people enjoy making dinner, and, like, they make different foods. I'm like, I have to eat the same thing every day because I don't want to think about it.

[Mike]

I know. And see, that's what sucks for me. I love dinner. I love. I love food. I love making meals. And I don't have time. I literally. I hadn't gone to the grocery store in, like, three weeks. I'm pretty sure I was surviving off of olives and carrots for literally, like, days. I'm like, I need food. I need to actually, like, be eating. And it's just become, like, the lowest thing on the totem pole. So I'm. I'm working through that right now, trying to understand. But yes, all that to say I know everything. We get really caught up, and some days we're like, dang, is this even worth it? And I'm. I'm tired. I want to sleep.

[Clayton]

For where you. For where you have food on your totem pole. I think that's where, like, my social stuff is. Like, that's like the lowest. The only thing I've kind of done recently is I've like. Kelsey's made a lot of friends here now. She has a lot of work friends. And we went to a ultimate Frisbee competition or match, I guess game, because her. One of her co workers plays on the team. And I'm like, slowly finding myself adopting to her friends because it's like she has her co worker friends who have husbands and, like, you guys would get along great. And even after that, she was like, both of you guys, like, Pokemon. We're all going out and we're hanging out and we're making you guys friends. And it felt like parents setting up kids on a play date where the common ground is Pokemon.

[Mike]

You know, sometimes you need a little push. Sometimes that happens. And sometimes that's how you make really good friends, though. And then maybe you make other friends by way of that friend and that becomes your friend.

[Clayton]

It could be my end.

[Mike]

It is. That's a way you should totally own. Like, I get it, though. I get that that's like your lowest totem pole. And you're like, I don't have time for this. And that's a lot of work. I get it. But also, you do Deserve to. I deserve to shower and eat, and you deserve to have friends. You know, like, we do deserve those things in our life. So I. I think you should do it. Are you. Are you open to doing it?

[Clayton]

Are you like, I'm open to doing it. I just feel there's an added pressure that they're so good friends already. And I'm like, I don't know if I can match that level or even find the common ground.

[Mike]

Okay, well, you don't have to become best friends with that person, but it could be at least a friend. It doesn't have to be, like, your best friend or someone that you're gonna call and hang out by yourselves, but it could be a surface friend. And a surface friend is better than no friends.

[Clayton]

That's true.

[Mike]

So I. I have lots of surfing friends in my life. Like, people have tried to connect me at all times. I'm like, okay, yeah, and I'll hang out. Like, surface friend. Cool. It's really nice to meet you. You're really awesome. It's just, you know, you don't bond in that way, so you need. You need all kinds of friendships. This is your start because especially you still have yet to go to a run club. Mike.

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I've challenged you for, like, four best bits now, so you're. You gotta take a step a different direction. This isn't working.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I can try this one.

[Mike]

Yeah, this is maybe easier. And you have your wife there, so, like. Like, worst case scenario, you'd be like, hey, I'm sick. I need to go home. You know what I mean?

[Clayton]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And she'll be like, okay, bye. You know, it's fine. Oh, Mike. Well, thanks for being here. Any last words? Anything else you want to share that we haven't got to?

[Clayton]

Hopefully I come back with two updates with braces off and an acquaintance. A surface friend.

[Mike]

A surface friend. Okay, I like this. Well, I have hope, and I believe in you as I have in all the other weeks. But that hope is dwindling a little bit. At least. The friend side, the brain side, we know that's coming, which is a matter of time. But the friend side, I'm putting all of my energy into believing that this will happen for you. Okay. But that means you also have to. This cannot just be me.

[Clayton]

It just feels like dating again. When it was putting myself out there to find somebody to spend my life with. Now it's like putting yourself out there to find a friend.

[Mike]

It is. It is like dating. And don't let anybody convince you otherwise, because it is. You have to be compatible. You have to want to hang around this person. Often you want to call them in vulnerable moments like that's a friend and that is dating in a way. That's why there's bumble BFF for a reason. So. But you can do this.

[Clayton]

Okay.

[Mike]

I have faith, my hope, manifestation.

[Clayton]

All the things I believe in you, believing in me.

[Mike]

Okay. I like it. That's what we're going to end on. Mike. Tell them where they can find you, hear you, all that good stuff.

[Clayton]

You can listen to my podcast, Movie Mike's movie podcast. Interviews with actors, directors. I do deep dives on things. Like I just did a big deep dive on a goofy movie, which is one of my favorite movies as a kid.

[Mike]

Nice.

[Clayton]

So it's a mix of everything fun.

[Mike]

Yeah, go check that out. And I have a podcast called Take this personally. Did a fun episode where we just talked about all your guys stuff that you have happening in your guys lives. It was really fun. Well, that goes up Monday. Yeah, guys, I don't know. My brain's not functioning. Okay. Anyways, go follow the show and subscribe to us on YouTube. Hopefully we can hit half a million in lunchbox. Eddie and I can make some money. That'd be cool too.

[Clayton]

Yeah, I can do it.

[Mike]

Yeah, I believe in us. Bye, everybody.

[Clayton]

That's the best bits of the week with Morgan. Thanks for listening. Be sure to check out the other two parts this weekend. Go follow the show on all social.

[Morgan]

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[Clayton]

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