BOBBYCAST #603 - We’re Talking About Current Stuff! Bobby & Eddie Catch Up on Pop Culture

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: BOBBYCAST #603

“We’re Talking About Current Stuff! Bobby & Eddie Catch Up on Pop Culture”

Date: May 1, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones
Co-Host: Eddie
Main Theme: An energetic recap of the week’s pop culture and music news—with plenty of humor, debate, and personal stories woven in.

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Overview

In this episode of Bobbycast, Bobby and Eddie dive into a lively round-up of current entertainment news, with an emphasis on music, concerts, and popular culture. They swap memories about live shows, unpack festival lineups, share their thoughts on band lineup changes, discuss tipping etiquette after big casino wins, and debate what makes a great music biopic. Longtime listeners get to enjoy behind-the-scenes stories from Bobby's Dancing with the Stars win and his upbringing. Packed with anecdotes and friendly banter, this episode is both informative and highly entertaining for music and pop culture fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Concerts and Weather Disasters

• Zach Bryan Show Cut Short by Lightning

  • Zach Bryan’s Lincoln, NE concert was stopped after 20 out of 26 songs due to lightning. Fans were upset and demanded partial refunds.
  • Bobby’s take: “Once a show hits an hour, that’s seven innings, and 20 of 26 songs…that’s a full show.” (04:27)
  • Eddie notes fans are often disappointed if the encore or biggest hit is missed — but Bobby counters that sometimes artists skip their big song anyway.

• Rain & Festival Chaos

  • Personal stories about concerts canceled due to rain (Counting Crows, Live in Austin).
  • Stagecoach festival postponed/reshuffled headliners due to wind; appearances by Sydney Sweeney and others turned into social media gold.

2. Festivals Mixing Genres & Nostalgia Acts

• Stagecoach/Other Festivals Adding 90s/2000s Bands

  • Bobby discusses a NY Times interview about country festivals booking alternative and pop acts (Counting Crows, Wallflowers, etc.).
  • “People love to sing songs they know...I think adding acts like that is super fun.” (12:49)
  • Exploration of why fans of 90s alt-rock fit well with today’s country festival demographic: nostalgia, songwriting style, cross-genre appeal.

• Bourbon & Beyond Festival Lineup

  • Deep dive into September’s Bourbon & Beyond (Louisville, KY): Foo Fighters, Mumford & Sons, Chris Stapleton, Dave Matthews Band, Kacey Musgraves, and many more (15:38).
  • Festival lineups celebrated for blending genres and decades—“almost 50/50 with cool bands from back in the day and current country music.” (15:38)
  • Humorous riff on whether bands without their original lead singers should note it in the billing—“Like Sublime with Rome,” jokes about “The Fray with Chuck” (18:20).

Memorable Quote

“I feel like if your lead singer leaves and you switch them out, that should be put in parentheses.”
— Bobby (18:08)

3. Band Lineups & Lead Singer Switch-Ups

• Rules of Replacing Band Singers
  • Bobby and Eddie riff about Journey, Van Halen, The Fray, and ACDC—debate on “how many switches” a band can make before fans check out (09:36).
  • Discussion: If a band loses their singer, can only go to a new one once. Example: Van Halen with David Lee Roth → Sammy Hagar → Gary Cherone.

4. Music Biopics: Best of All Time

• New Michael Jackson Film “Michael”

  • Mike D (producer) calls in—says it’s the best music biopic in years, “better than Elvis or Bruce Springsteen’s” (55:56).
  • Conversation about whether the film whitewashes controversy (it ends before the scandals began).

• Counting Down Top 10 Highest-Grossing Music Biopics (57:00 – 63:50)

  • #1: Bohemian Rhapsody
  • #2: Elvis
  • #3: Michael
  • Also on the list: Walk The Line, Ray, Rocket Man, Straight Outta Compton, One Love (Bob Marley), A Complete Unknown (Bob Dylan), La Vie en Rose (Edith Piaf).
  • Fun back-and-forth quiz, with both hosts reminiscing about favorites and overlooked classics.

Memorable Exchange

Eddie (on biopics): “Ray was one of my favorites because my son was asking me about... he loves movies... What are some good ones? I said, Ray. You have to watch Ray. Ray’s really good.” (57:19)

5. Tipping Etiquette on Casino Wins

• Viral Outrage Over $10 Million Slot Winner Not Tipping (25:58)
  • Bobby’s strong stance: “I have real trouble with a slot winning to having a mandatory tip because nobody did anything.” (27:05)
  • Distinguishes between service that deserves a tip (servers, dealers) vs. random slot wins where “no one did anything for you to win.”
  • Bobby shares own “big tip” habits—sometimes tipping $100 at Sonic, but setting expectations too high for the next visit (29:56).

Memorable Quote

“I don’t believe that there’s an obligation to tip if you win slots or if you win any gambling. You know why? Because you’re gambling your own money to possibly lose.”
— Bobby (31:27)

• Eddie’s take: Tipping at tables only if he’s on a good winning streak; both now more likely to tip hotel staff after years of not thinking about it (32:09–33:06).

6. Personal Stories: Lessons from Bobby’s Grandma

• Childhood, Gambling, and Life Lessons (33:06 – 37:39)
  • Bobby recalls cleaning cabins with his grandmother, learning to play cards, her arrest for running underground bingo, and hard lessons about gambling only what you can afford to lose.
  • “Her life lesson to me was: Don’t gamble with stuff you can’t lose.” (37:32)
  • Eddie relates with his kids’ betting habits, enforcing that “if you say, ‘I’ll bet you...’ it’s gotta be paid!” (38:15)

7. Dancing With The Stars: Behind The Scenes

• Mara Higgins Cast for Next Season (41:12)
  • Bobby critiques Mara’s “blank canvas” training strategy: “That’s terrible advice. It’s the worst advice ever. I was a blank canvas...” (41:45)
  • Shares details from his own victorious DWTS run (hard work, being constantly in dance training, and why being physically ready matters).
  • Discusses the stereotype of the show as a last-ditch “has-been” move versus a launching pad for rising stars (51:28).
  • Old mentor Drew Scott (Property Brothers) and Charlamagne Tha God gave Bobby advice before he joined the show. (51:52)

Memorable Exchange

Bobby: “If I could go back, I would not go on blank canvas. I would at least learn the fundamentals. I didn’t even know what an eight-count was...” (44:29)
Eddie: “And this comes from a former champ, so.” (46:08)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “Once a show hits an hour, that’s seven innings, and 20 of 26 songs... that’s a full show.” — Bobby (04:27)
• “People love to sing songs they know... as long as you got somebody that’s playing hits.” — Bobby (12:49)
• “I feel like if your lead singer leaves and you switch them out, that should be put in parentheses.” — Bobby (18:08)
• “I have real trouble with a slot winning to having a mandatory tip because nobody did anything.” — Bobby (27:05)
• “Don’t gamble with stuff you can’t lose.” — Grandma’s lesson paraphrased by Bobby (37:32)
• “That’s terrible advice. It’s the worst advice ever. I was a blank canvas...” — Bobby (41:45)
• “If I could go back...I would at least learn the fundamentals. I didn’t even know what an eight-count was.” — Bobby (44:29)
• “So I did it. But thanks to their advices, Mara, you gotta get yourself in dancing shape and you may be good on the fundamentals.” — Bobby (53:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment / Topic | |--------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:27 | Zach Bryan concert canceled due to lightning / ticket refunds | | 06:09 | Concert weather disasters and artist logistics | | 08:03 | Stagecoach lineup reshuffling; Sydney Sweeney pop-up | | 09:36 | Changing lead singers in classic bands: Journey, Van Halen discussion | | 15:22 | Bourbon & Beyond Festival lineup breakdown and nostalgia acts | | 18:08 | Band branding after losing lead singer (Sublime with Rome, The Fray) | | 25:58 | Viral story: Should you tip after a $10m slot win? | | 29:56 | Bobby’s big-tipping habits at Sonic | | 33:06–37:39 | Bobby's childhood, gambling, and life lessons from grandma | | 41:12 | Mara Higgins on DWTS – Blank canvas vs. training | | 44:29 | Bobby’s own experience and “blank canvas” mistake on DWTS | | 55:50 | Michael Jackson biopic “Michael” reviewed; music biopics quiz and debate | | 57:00–63:50 | Top 10 grossing music biopics — full breakdown |

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Tone & Style

• Warm, conversational, and humorous, with the easy chemistry of two friends.
• Self-deprecating stories and honest takes on pop culture, sprinkled with nostalgia and playful ribbing.
• Frequent asides, song references, and callbacks to personal experiences.
• Occasional lighthearted cultural jokes (“as your people would say...”), always in good spirit.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a thorough, sometimes hilarious, survey of what’s happening in the music and pop culture world, filtered through Bobby and Eddie's experience as fans, industry insiders, and festival veterans. You’ll get hot takes on band drama, festival lineups, music movies, and real-life common sense about things like tipping and gambling—plus some heartfelt stories about family, hard work, and dreams, grounded in Bobby’s Arkansas upbringing.

If you’re looking for an episode to catch you up on the pulse of live music, band news, and the inside scoop on Dancing with the Stars, this is a can’t-miss conversation.

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[A]

Hey everybody. Welcome to another episode of Headlines of the Week. That name sucks. Look, we tried this last week, and I called it in case you missed it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And then when we loaded it, everybody thought it was just a best of.

[E]

Okay, that's not good.

[A]

I was just playing old stuff, so we. Headlines. We'll catch you up. We don't have a name for it yet, but that's what we're gonna do.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Are you ready?

[E]

Ready.

[A]

I'm Bobby.

[E]

I'm Eddie.

[A]

That's Eddie. If you're watching on Netflix and you're new, we're now gonna catch you up on the things from this week that

[E]

you need to miss.

[A]

No. God, we suck on that.

[E]

That's not good.

[A]

Yeah. We'll start with this. There was a Zach Bryan show in Lincoln, Nebraska, this week, and he had to cut his show short because of lightning. He played 20 of 26 songs, but the lightning got so bad, there was even a picture, I think, that he posted it once. Everybody got upset, and it was them playing, and it's this massive lightning bolt, like, cracking on top of them.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

That's probably the one that made them go in. And everybody was upset, or at least a lot of people were upset because they had to cancel the show. So Zach Bryan, never afraid to tweet at fans, called one lady Karen. Ah, tweet. I believe that was his response, because she was like, hey, you need to, like, refund us some. So here's my official stance on shows getting cut short, much like a baseball game. Like, for a baseball game to count, it has to go seven innings, correct? You don't go seven innings. You go three innings. We'll just pick it up. Everybody come back.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Five innings. Once it hits seven innings, that is an official baseball game. I think once a show hits an hour, nobody wants to stop their show. But once a show hits an hour, that's seven innings and 20 of 26 songs. You wouldn't know the difference. Had the guy just went out and played 20 songs, you wouldn't have been screaming, we want our money back. You would have been like, that's a heck of a show. 20 songs. That's crazy.

[E]

Here's one thing to argue about, that sometimes these artists hold that big song or the big hits till the very end. And if you make it through 20 because you want to hear I like it, I love it, or like friends in low places, and you missed out on that one. Oof. That would hurt a little bit.

[A]

Sometimes artists don't even play their big song, so. So I don't think that's accurate. Because there are artists that we know that are like, you know what? I'm not going to play that song tonight.

[E]

Yeah, they're tired of it because they

[A]

have so many hits. So 20 of 26 songs. That's a full show.

[E]

You're almost done.

[A]

Yeah, that's a full show. To the people that were tweeting and saying, you owe us a partial refund. No, no. It's either a full show or it's not. And then some people are like, you give us 50 bucks in your merch store.

[E]

What credit?

[A]

Zach, Brian does not owe anyone else anything. And trust me, I've had my issues with the guy.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But he's one of the top three stars in country music right now as far as getting people to come to show. Sells more tickets than pretty much everybody up there with Wallen and Combs, Zach, Bryan, that's the top tier of selling concert tickets. And if you go to a show, 20 songs is a full show. If he just played 20 songs and walked off, you wouldn't think you were being screwed over. And also, it's massive lightning. So you ever been to a show that was canceled?

[E]

Like, his weather, like, in the middle of it canceled? No, not that I can remember. I remember I was looking forward to Counting Crows. It was a tour where Counting Crows was open up for live, but I guess they were both headliners, so they would alternate, and they were coming to Austin, and, man, I was looking forward to that show. And I drove all the way to Austin. I was living in South Texas at the time, McAllen. So I drove up there, and the day of it was just raining and raining, and then they eventually called it,

[A]

and a lot of times for just rain. The show will go on. It still does ruin the instruments.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

[A]

And if it does rain, and this isn't universal across the board, but if it rains and the artist still plays, a lot of times they won't use their best instruments because they know water will still mess stuff up.

[E]

Yeah. So you're not going to mess up the good ones.

[A]

So you're not going to use your best guitars.

[E]

You know what made me so mad about that show, though? On the ticket, it said rain or shine, and I remember they got you, dude. I remember thinking, like, liars.

[A]

It does suck, though, for the artist because they don't want to travel. And it's not just about them. It's they. They have a whole production crew to pay for to get to that city.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So they're losing money too.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So even if you get refunded, which

[E]

you probably did, that was a full refund.

[A]

They lost money because they had to pay to get there. They had to pay for their buses, their gas on the buses, the food they ate. They could have easily gone to the next city. So they probably got to the city and had to make that call. Oh, we're not going to be able to have the show. Yeah, That's a tough decision a lot of times, too. If it's raining and the weather looks bad through the entire night, they'll call it because of that as well, and

[E]

then just move on to the next.

[A]

Well, even at Stagecoach this last week.

[E]

Oh, yeah, the wind.

[A]

So it got so windy that they had to cancel some people, and then they took Laney Wilson, who was headlining that night, and they moved her to, like, 10:30 or 11. Like, even later.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So she got up and Riley Green was canceled. Like, imagine. He's still going to get paid, by the way.

[E]

Yeah. Festivals kind of do that, right?

[A]

So he went out. He did not get to play. Whenever Lanie was playing her show, she brought Riley out to play a song.

[E]

Cool. And I did see that Riley and, like, Sydney Sweeney played, like, a bar or something or sang, like, karaoke at a bar.

[A]

She had, like, a pop up.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

In that. So that's why everybody was singing with Sydney Sweeney. She literally had, like, a commercial, One big commercial happening. And I think everybody knew if they went to that, because that's all Bailey Zimmerman singing karaoke with Sydney Sweeney. And I thought, that's crazy. Bailey knows Sydney. And then it turns out she had it. It's smart. It's there. And then all the artists go sing with her because they want to meet her, and then they share it on their socials. And I believe it was like, what is it? Some kind of lingerie company or something? Or lingerie. Yeah.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

So very smart. And then she was there and enjoying the show, too. With Scooter. Yeah. Oh, But a very smart commercial.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

For Sydney Sweeney, because that's what that was. Riley was canceled and Journey was canceled.

[E]

Oh, wow. Journey. Lead singer. Still?

[A]

Same. Still. Same guy that's not the lead singer.

[E]

Yeah. Joe Perry. So. So he's Steve Perry. Steve Perry.

[A]

Joe Perry's Aerosmith.

[E]

Aerosmith. Steve Perry. Not in the band anymore. So who sings for Journey?

[A]

The guy they found off YouTube. Ah, that's right. Who's really good.

[E]

Okay. I mean, it sounds just like.

[A]

And I. I saw there was some beef, too, with him and them you can't go to your third lead singer. I don't know if that's at Stagecoach. No, just in general. Like, I saw some. Some. Some Internet fighting. I'm not sure if it's tr. You can't go from your second lead singer to your third. You can go from your second back to your first.

[E]

Van Halen did that.

[A]

So if you do lose your lead singer, you can then get a new one one time. You get one coupon. And if that works, great. But you can't go to a third if you do. Never works.

[E]

It never works. Van Halen did it with the guy from Extreme.

[A]

Van Halen did both of those examples.

[E]

Yes, they did.

[A]

They went. Then they had David lee Roth at 1. He was OG then Sammy Hagar.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

Equal or more success.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think if you do say more success with that band, it's based off of the success they already had. So when you say more success, I think it was trending upward and just kept trending upward.

[E]

I will say that the Sammy Hagar move made them a little more of a serious band. Cause some of their music, like Right Here, Right now, was a song that they put out, was a little more political. And before then, Van Halen was just a. Ow, yeah.

[A]

Personality.

[E]

The lead singer. Yeah. So it made him a little more of a serious band.

[A]

I was a little too young for Van Halen, but I like the David Lee Roth version better.

[E]

That's the eighties.

[A]

Just a jiggle.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And Sammy Hagar. And then they had the guy from Extreme. Yeah, dude, I don't know his name. I just know their one song More than Words. Is it Sharon?

[E]

Yeah, Gary. Gary. Gary.

[A]

Sharon, possibly.

[E]

There we go.

[A]

I have a computer right in front of me.

[E]

But see, I don't even know. Boom.

[A]

Let's go. I nailed that.

[E]

Good job, man.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

I don't even know if they had an album because, like, I don't remember that they did.

[A]

I would imagine if you have a new lead singer, you have to put out an album. Like if you declare, this is our new lead singer. But they did go back to David Lee Roth.

[E]

Then they went back to David Lee Roth. Have you seen the video of David Lee Roth walking down a hallway in a hotel and he hears, like, a party in a hotel room, and they're playing like, Jump or Panama or something. So he knocks on the door, but

[A]

those aren't his songs.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Jump and hand them over daily. Roth.

[E]

That was David Lee Roth. And so he knocks on the door, and this, like, college Kid answers like, yeah, can I help you? Hey, man, you're listening to my song.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Didn't know who likes to go, oh, do you want us to turn that down?

[A]

I thought it was an old man complaining. That's funny. So jump in Panama with David Lee Ross.

[E]

Hot for Teacher.

[A]

That I do know. David Lee Ross.

[E]

That was David Lee Ross and Just a Gigolo. Those are the two. Yeah. And then Sammy Higar was more like

[A]

Ride Now, Come Now. Yes.

[E]

Till tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Speaking of older bands, I did an interview with the New York Times last week, and they called me to talk about these festivals that are putting country music festivals like Stagecoach, that are putting these alternative bands, mostly from the 90s and early 2000s on, unlike the lineup. And so I was talking with. They were like, why do people like this? And I had a couple answers. I don't know if my answers are right, but to me, I said, well, one, people love to sing songs they know. And at Stagecoach, I think the Wallflowers played Counting Crows, played Third Eye Blind, played Journey, was supposed to play, but the weather got them. So there are a lot of those bands. I said, well, people know those songs, and it doesn't matter. As long as you got somebody that's playing hits. It doesn't really matter, the genre. I said, secondly, a lot of that songwriting from that time in that genre, it's kind of what country music does now. Personal, tell stories. I said, I think that's a part of it, too. And then it's also the people that can afford the tickets for the most part, enjoyed those bands when they were kids, like adults. So that, to me, would make me want to go to a festival, and I'm festivaled out. We've played a bunch of them as an artist.

[E]

We've been to a bunch of them.

[A]

We've been to a bunch of them. Yeah. But I think adding acts like that is super fun. Your thoughts?

[E]

Yeah, I mean, I enjoy it, you know, especially our age, you know, we love country music the way it is now. But then if you see lit is playing, like, all right, like, bonus. Counting Crows. Like, bonus. I think same man. Like, I think people that love country music love other genres of music.

[A]

Yeah. What I said in the interview was, I think if you were a country music fan in the late 90s and early 2000s, because before boy bands, like, the biggest music was the alternative stuff.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I think country music fans got the alternative stuff. I don't think every alternative fan got country music correct. Because I think country at the Time was a bit too niche, where alternative could have been considered niche, but it exploded and was pop at that point. So country fans got the alternative music fed to them, but not all alternative fans got country music fed to them. And I think that's a reason as well.

[E]

So I have a really good example of that. So I. Growing up, like, in fifth grade, I had a friend of mine who was, like, my best friend, my fifth grade best friend, right? We were, like, really close. He moved away to another town. And then, like, we would stay in touch together with, like, letters, you know, just like, hey, how's it going out there? Whatever. And then, like, three years later, four years later, he comes back into town. He's like, you want to hang out? And, like, you know, grab lunch or something. And I showed up in my cowboy boots. Like, I was all Garth Brooks, doubt, like Wranglers, you know, one of the Brush Popper shirts, and he is, like, all grunged out. And we're like, whoa, like, crazy. This is like, what are you listening to? And I was like, oh, I love Pearl Jam, man. Nirvana, all that. And I'm like, oh, I love Pearl Jam. And I was like, yeah, but you look like you're a cowboy. I'm like, oh, I love Garth Brooks, too, but it's because I was a country fan, but I also loved all that other music. He wasn't. He was a grunge guy. He was like, you listen to Garth Brooks? Like, that's weird. Yeah. So to your point, that's exactly how it was with me.

[A]

There's a festival that is happening in Kentucky in September. This looks awesome. It's the most awesome festival possibly I've ever seen. Yes. And this is us as music fans. First, nerd, second. It's called Bourbon and Beyond in Louisville.

[E]

Right.

[A]

And they're not paying us. They don't even know we're talking about.

[E]

We're just fans. We're just Fans.

[A]

And it's September 24th, 25th, 26th, and 27th.

[E]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

That's too much. I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. That's too much. I realize it's four days, but that's. That's. So just look at the lineup.

[E]

Go ahead.

[A]

There's a massive country music presence here, but they've also. It's almost 50. 50 with, like, cool bands from back in the day and current country music.

[E]

What's the name again?

[A]

Bourbon and Beyond.

[E]

Okay. Bourbon and Beyond. All right.

[A]

It's at the Kentucky Expo center in Louisville. On Thursday, it's Foo Fighters.

[E]

Oh, gosh.

[A]

Queens of the Stone Age. Awesome. On Friday, Mumford and Sons, KC Musgraves. Cool. On Saturday, Chris Stapleton, Red Clay Strays. On Sunday, Dave Matthews Band. Hooting. The Blowfish.

[E]

That's awesome. And those are the headliners of all four days.

[A]

And so other bands that are playing, like Jason Isbell, Counting Crows, Charlie Crockett. Right. Country. Four Non Blondes, kind of pop, alternative. Portugal the man, Gary Clark Jr. That's blues. Joan Jett. And you could keep going down. And there's stuff like Adam Ann, Amos Lee, a ton of country acts, but then also Kaitlyn Butts, Vertical Horizon.

[E]

Wow. She's everything I want. Yes.

[A]

Almost. You almost got that.

[E]

He's Everything I want.

[A]

Maybe your version, how does it go? You might be right. She's everything I want. Oh, now I'm confused. She's everything I need. Maybe it's I. He's. Am I wrong?

[E]

It could work both ways, guys.

[A]

I don't know, dude. I don't know. Is it he? Did you start singing she?

[E]

I said she at first.

[A]

Okay, okay. He's everything you want. He's everything you need.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's a jam. And they also had. What? Blue Sky Morning.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You're a guy.

[A]

You're a guy. Oh, yeah. There's a jam, the Vertical Rising. I had like three awesome songs. Anyway, this festival looks really cool.

[E]

And are we going?

[A]

Probably. I mean, honestly, probably not. But it'd be cool to go.

[E]

It would be really.

[A]

I don't have the energy to do festivals.

[E]

I mean, the only way we could.

[A]

I have a baby now too.

[E]

I know.

[A]

And if I tell my wife, I'm gonna go watch it. Cuz the phrase up there, she's not gonna get that.

[E]

She's gonna be like, really? But you never seen like, you know the people that go to festivals with their babies and they got the little headphones on there.

[A]

Never.

[E]

You be that, dude.

[A]

That would never happen. I don't love festivals enough for that to happen. It would be cool to maybe go for a night.

[E]

The Fray is playing a long way for a night.

[A]

It's like two and a half hours.

[E]

Is it? Yeah.

[A]

From here.

[E]

Okay. You're driving.

[A]

I'm not going. Oh, the Fray. They don't have the original lead singer.

[E]

Oh, right. Did he die or did they fight him?

[A]

No, no, I think he left.

[E]

I don't really know. It's one or two things.

[A]

I know he didn't die because I see him sometimes on Instagram.

[E]

So that have fallen Out.

[A]

He's the bald dude.

[E]

Yes. I remember that.

[A]

The guitar player from the Fray is now the lead singer of the Fray. I feel like if your lead singer leaves and you switch them out, that should be put in parentheses.

[E]

Oh, like the Fray. New lead singer, the Fray.

[A]

Not the same lead singer.

[E]

Okay. Like Sublime with Rome.

[A]

Yeah. Whoever the guitarist is, let's call him Chuck Defray.

[E]

With Chuck as the lead singer.

[A]

Yeah. Because I. I don't know what they sound like. I loved Defray.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah, you did.

[A]

It's the only artist I've ever seen, because we were. They were doing a show for my radio show. They were headlining and they played and they finished the show. And I'm backstage because I'm going to go on after the show and thank everybody for coming out. I watched them finish their set, walk back, come back out to encore, listen to the crowd and go, ah, not enough. And they went back and that was it. No encore.

[E]

The crowd didn't want it enough, or

[A]

maybe they didn't want to go out enough, but they surveyed the crowd cheering and said, nah, not for us.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

And then turn the lights back on.

[E]

Got to respect that.

[A]

At the time I didn't, because it was my show.

[E]

You're like, what are you doing? Go back out there.

[A]

You do the songs. I was a massive Defray fan.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

It's weird without the lead singer, but I haven't heard them. I hope he sounds exactly like the other guy.

[E]

Yeah. That's interesting. Like, do you start singing like the other guy or do you do your own little twist to it? I hope less twists, more like the original.

[A]

Because the Journey guy we're talking about

[E]

sounds just like him.

[A]

Sounds just like him. Like, they went. They sought someone, even someone like ACDC when their lead singer, Bon Scott, died, like, late 70s.

[E]

Did he also sing high?

[A]

Yeah, very much so.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

And so Brian Johnson, who's the lead singer now or was through their major commercial American success, had a very similar sound and style. Although I've heard him do, like, commercials from before he was famous. And he sings so straightforward like Ho, Lord, that I think his skill was. He could just kind of sing like Bon Scott did.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

But, you know.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what we're saying. Like, you can. If you can emulate your voice to sound like the original. Like, what's. I mean, the best case scenario is the Sublime guy. I mean, it's his son, so he sounds just like his dad.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Because I don't know what Rome sounded like, but I don't know if Rome,

[A]

Rome, or is it Rome?

[E]

Is it Rome? Sublime with Rome. I don't know if he made himself sound like Bradley or what, but, like, you know, in this case, the sun sounds just like him.

[A]

I think Rome was already an artist, so he was himself just playing with sublime. But that's tough. But very much had a sublime sound, like. But I don't think he had, like, the vocal. The same vocal mannerisms, etc. But his son does sound like him.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Also playing this festival, Plain White Teas, Our Lady Peace.

[E]

Oh, cool.

[A]

Do you know the Plain White Tea song? Yeah.

[E]

Hey there, Delilah.

[A]

Hey there, Delilah.

[E]

And there was another one too that they did that was really good.

[A]

Yeah. Three. One, two. Yeah, it's numbers in it.

[E]

It is numbers.

[A]

Yeah. Three. Hold on. I get it. It's three to two. Oh, come on. It's in my head.

[E]

I keep thinking of the Bruno Mars one.

[A]

No, no, no, I get it. I got a lot of songs in my head right now.

[E]

I'm like, one, two, three. But four, two, one.

[A]

That ain't it. But we're trying.

[E]

Oh, man. What is it? But it was good.

[A]

I gotta listen to it in my ears.

[E]

I remember when we were working for. I was working for a music television station, and we interviewed the plain white tees, and they gave us the singer and the drummer, and we're like, man, it sucks to be the drummer because the two songs are really big. You're not in them. Right. Because they didn't have drums. Right.

[A]

One day, Tuesday, three. Da da da da. Yeah, that's it.

[E]

I love you. I love you.

[A]

That's a good one. Also, Our Lady Peace is awesome.

[E]

Oh, dude. Clumsy Superman's dead suit.

[A]

Yeah. Canadian.

[E]

Remember? What's that one I love is at 3?

[A]

Is it 3am?

[E]

No, 4am 4am oh, dude, so good.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's Fievel. No, no, you're thinking somewhere like Fievel and American Tail.

[E]

Where? Out there.

[A]

Yeah, Different.

[E]

That's not.

[A]

That American tail was a 80s cartoon

[E]

of a mouse that got lost from his parents.

[A]

Now you're out there somewhere out there.

[E]

Oh, of course.

[A]

Yeah. So that's a awesome festival. I love when they mix it up like that again. Other country artists like Max McNown's playing.

[E]

That's cool.

[A]

Caitlyn Butts. Better than Ezra. That's awesome.

[E]

Better than Ezra, too.

[A]

Avriana, who's done this podcast, who just won the ACM Best New Artist. Lisa Loeb's playing.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

I'm telling you, didn't you have a

[E]

crush on Lisa Lo.

[A]

Everybody. Every dude did. Right?

[E]

I didn't but. But I guess the every dude but you.

[A]

Okay, so there's that shout out to all the festivals that are putting on artists that aren't exactly like the expected artists because I think that is really great for the consumer because you don't have to go. You don't like, you don't have to go to town and co stage.

[E]

You don't have to do. Yeah, no. It's an option.

[D]

Hang tight. The Bobby cast will be right back.

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[A]

There's a story I wanted to talk about. It's out of Vegas. And I saw the Twitter account Las Vegas Locally tweet this and somebody had hit a $10 million slot jackpot. Wow. This story's gonna drive you crazy. And I am somebody who waited tables a lot of my life, had a lot of jobs where I not only expected but needed tips because that was why we did the job. Such as a waiter. You didn't make a full hourly wage. So the money that you took home to pay your car payment, to pay your insurance, pay your rent was tip money.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So I like to say that up front.

[E]

I don't know where this is going.

[A]

Let's say up front. Big tip guy. Love tipping. That's my favorite thing.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I got a few hobbies going to games, tipping, eating, tipping. All right, there's an older couple from Iowa. They had a 10 million dollar jackpot on a slot machine and everybody was upset because they didn't tip. They didn't tip who off a slot machine? So then this account, Las Vegas Locally, says if you had a $10 million slot jackpot in Vegas, you should tip the people who provide a good service and made the trip fun.

[E]

What are you talking about? Who?

[A]

The slot attendants.

[E]

Oh, my goodness. The person that came up with all the keys.

[A]

Cocktail servers.

[E]

Stop.

[A]

Anything around $30,000 to spread around is fine.

[E]

That is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[A]

Now I'd like to say if you want to do that, that's awesome, go for it. You just won 10 million. So basically you're gonna get five and a half million, right?

[E]

Great. Yes.

[A]

After taxes, life changing, life changing money. And I would hope that you would just generally be nicer to people because you have more money.

[E]

Absolutely. You're probably way happier as soon as you win. You're a happy person.

[A]

I have real trouble with a slot winning to having a mandatory tip because nobody did anything. Like the people that are bringing you drinks, you're tipping them as they come.

[E]

And you don't know. If you just put $1 in there and hit it, like, you're assuming they were there for 30 minutes. What if they just walked in?

[A]

It's a great point, too. And again, I totally understand if you have come into a lot of luck. I like to pass that on. Like, if there's great good fortune on me, I like for other people to have good fortune, generally speaking. Also, I worked in the service industry. I don't feel like if you're playing a slot machine, that there's a huge service being done. And if there is, if the person's walking around bringing drinks, you're tipping them as you go every time. It's like, if I play craps, I tip the dealer, or I will put money down and play for the dealer, which they often like. Yeah, they do like that more than just the tips. But I mostly do that for luck.

[E]

Oh, not because you're thanking them for their service?

[A]

No, because I don't think they get all of it. I think it just gets spread out over. Over a bunch of people, because it

[E]

does look like they take it and they put in this big old, like, bag with a bunch of other chips in there.

[A]

And if I leave with a big pile of money that I didn't start with, I for sure throw 10 bucks back on the table, 20 bucks back on the table. But I'm not obligated to do that, as I feel like I'm obligated to do that if I'm having dinner and the person that is serving me is serving me for their wage. Yes, for my wage.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

The fact that everyone was going crazy that they didn't tip off a slot machine blows my mind. I'm Mr. Tip. Let me show you my tips.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They don't even know about what you do at Sonic.

[A]

No, I was saying, like, show my tips. Oh, I was doing a job.

[E]

I got it. Got it.

[A]

I didn't catch that show. I got myself in a better tip. Sonic.

[E]

Yeah. Sonic, man.

[A]

Now, I've created an unhealthy environment at my local Sonic's, because what I will do is. Now you brought this up. This is not of my own volition. What I do, it's a funny story, is I order on the app. Big Sonic guy. My name's on the app, Bobby. And so when I order, mostly I just order, like, a large water with nerds and real fruit. Sometimes I get a corn dog, but it's always just a few bucks.

[E]

Good, healthy stuff.

[A]

And I Can tip on there and it's like two or three bucks. But for the same reason, if I have good fortune, I like to pass that fortune on. I'll tip a hundred bucks on a two or three dollar order. If I have a hundred dollars in my wallet, which a lot of times I do.

[E]

And most of the time these servers are like, you know, teenagers.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It's like a hu. Can you imagine them get a hundred dollar bill? Like, what?

[A]

And some aren't. Some just, you know, people grinding away.

[E]

Sure.

[A]

And I mean, my sister been managing a Sonic for a while now.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So like, I get it. The problem is if I get there and I don't have a hundred bucks in my wallet, which has happened a few times, it's like I've disappointed them tremendously because I don't know if they see Bobby and then there's like a race out to see who gets it. If I only give them a 20 or if I only have like $3 a tip, they hang their head and I feel bad. So it's put me in a weird place to where almost now if I don't have 100 bucks in my wallet, I don't go.

[E]

Yeah, you set that standard.

[A]

I know.

[E]

I really do believe that they do see your name and they're just like, I got it. I got this one.

[A]

Well, I know they do. It also may be that they have dedicated stall numbers.

[E]

Oh, okay. So. But don't you go to the same one I did?

[A]

Very much so.

[E]

You're a very. Yeah, I'm a regiment. Regiment. Same thing every time.

[A]

So shout out to Sonic. They don't pay for anything here. But I believe in tipping. I don't believe that there's an obligation to tip if you win slots or if you win any gambling. You know why? Because you're gambling your own money to possibly lose.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

Matter of fact, you're probably going to lose because you're paying for entertainment.

[E]

Yep. That's what gambling is. You know what, though? I do understand that this account or whatever. Vegas, whatever. When you said it was. I understand where they're coming from. They're trying to look out for their own people. I'm sure the community would love tips. Every part of the community. But no. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[A]

The expectation of it.

[E]

No.

[A]

As your people would say, no bueno.

[E]

My people would say that? Yeah. No bueno.

[A]

You want to muy bueno. Is that right?

[E]

Yes. Yes. Really good.

[A]

If you don't want to, no bueno. It's all. It's okay. Okay. So that was another one of my stories. Do you tip at the gambling tables?

[E]

Man, that's a tough one for me. If I hit a good one. Like if I'm at roulette and I hit like a number, yeah, I'll throw $10 at the dealer. But it's a hard one because the dealer had nothing to do with that spin.

[A]

Yeah. And you're not just getting a service. You're actually risking your own money.

[E]

Right. It's a hard one. And I really. This is something I started doing recently. Like, before I was like, I'm not tipping the stupid dealer.

[A]

And they're stupid.

[E]

I know. Like, why would I do it?

[A]

But I don't think that I'm just repeating you now.

[E]

I'm like, no, it's okay. If I hit a big one, you can afford it. Just give them 10 bucks.

[A]

You got good fortune. Why not pass on the good fortune?

[E]

Correct. You know what I've also gotten better at is a hotel. Like, when I leave a hotel, I'll leave a tip. I never used to do that.

[A]

Yeah, if you have a couple bucks, leave a couple bucks.

[E]

Yeah, for the cleaning people, you know, the maid service, whatever. Like, it's great if you can do it. Never thought. And part of it is. Cause I never. I never watch him. I never see him clean. So I never see the service being done. But it's good to remember afterwards.

[A]

My grandma and I used to clean cabins at this resort. And so, man, when people leave us even like 2 bucks. It was awesome. But we split it too. But it was awesome. And again, it's two bucks.

[E]

It was you and who?

[A]

My grandma.

[E]

And so you all would split it evenly. She wouldn't take a majority. Cause she probably took you there.

[A]

And she was also just awesome, I guess.

[E]

Yeah, that's awesome. That's really cool.

[A]

So we would. Yeah. If there was a tip left from the last person, we would split the money.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

Unless she, like, would hide a little up front. And I never saw. That's a good point. I don't think she did. But I also wouldn't put it past her because she did teach me how to play cards. My grandma raised me for a lot of my life. Taught me how to play cards and poker at 4 or 5 years old.

[E]

Didn't she run a bingo?

[A]

Oh, well, first she taught me how to cheat. After, she taught me how to play cards.

[E]

Yes, grandma. Just little tricks. Little tricks.

[A]

Like, you know, looking at the bottom of a card on the deck and. But I'm seven with these skills. But yeah, she loved to play bingo. Like gamble bingo. And I would go as a kid and we would go to the vfw. We'd go to the Benedictine Manor.

[E]

Is it with the Daubers?

[A]

No, it was slide cards at first. We go to the Elks Lodge and you would go and you'd buy. It's like a dollar a card or whatever. And you play all night. And so the Daubers happen later at some of the fancier places. But that would cost more to play because they'd always keep buying paper cards.

[E]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Because you dab on the ruined. Where we played, it was always the same cards. So there was no real. The price never went up because there was never buying new cards. But we did that for a long time and I used to go with her a lot. And so. But she loved to gamble anyway. It didn't matter. Poke. That's where I get. That's kind of where I get it.

[E]

Absolutely.

[A]

And so they shut down all the bingo in Arkansas because it was illegal gambling. At the same time, Oakland racetrack was still happening.

[E]

Come on, guys. Doesn't seem fair to me.

[A]

Doesn't seem fair to me either. But what she did was a lot of the old ladies that still wanted to play, they would call each other and she had a van and there would be like eight of them and they would drive around the city in a van and play in the van with money while the van was moving.

[E]

Yeah, it's almost like international waters, you

[A]

know, until they got pulled over and they told my grandma to jail.

[E]

Oh no.

[A]

They arrested her. Yeah, my grandma got arrested. Now they didn't put her in the. In jail jail. They freed her. Freed her like freed like.

[E]

They liberated her free gr.

[A]

Yeah, no, she went to. They. She got arrested and they took her in.

[E]

So they pull. They pulled him over and then like all these old ladies in the back playing. Were you there too?

[A]

No.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

So I think. Cuz I took up a seat and didn't have the money to take up the seat. There's only so much room in a van or. Yeah, it's a big van.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

That.

[E]

That is.

[A]

I haven't thought about this story in so long. But yeah, she got arrested.

[E]

Did she have to serve like any time?

[A]

No, literally it was nothing. It was like a little fine.

[E]

This sounds like an inside job. It's almost like somebody like tipped them off.

[A]

Why do they pull over a van with an old lady driving to begin with? They would switch drivers. I remember that they would.

[E]

So if one can play, I think

[A]

thinking back, if you won, you then had to drive or say you won one, you won, and you drove until the next, and then they switched.

[E]

That seems fair.

[A]

But that's wild to think about my grandma doing that back in the day.

[E]

It's crazy.

[A]

Whenever we would have poker nights, just her and I, because she'd sharpen me up, and she would beat me, and she would take my money. And I remember once I was out of money, and she was like, when you're out of money, life lesson. You should stop playing. And I was like, I need to play more and try to win back. Life lesson, when you're out of money, you should stop playing. Because what we would do is we would play cards all night, not go to sleep, and then go to yard sales all around town. She'd have them mapped out where to go.

[E]

Good quality time together. I like this.

[A]

Oh, a lot. A lot. It was just overnight and gambling, so.

[E]

And then wake up real early because you got garage sales.

[A]

Yeah. No, not even waking up. You just stay up. Just stay up because you wanted to get to the garage sales as soon as the sun started going up. Because you wanted the first pickings.

[E]

That's right. The good stuff.

[A]

So I remember once I had no money, and I had my favorite Cubs hat. And I was like, I want to. How much is this worth? And she was like, I don't want you to gamble your Cubs at. And I was like, no, I want you my money back. She's like, you saved up for that hat. It's your favorite hat. I don't want you to gamble the Cubs hat. I said, I really want to. She goes, okay. I think she picked a number arbitrarily. Said, like, three bucks, four bucks. She gave me four bucks. She took the Cubs hat. She then took my $4. I never got the Cubs hat back.

[E]

Yeah, that was her lesson.

[A]

I never. She never. She didn't leave it in a will.

[E]

No, she still had it, wherever it is.

[A]

Her life lesson to me was, don't gamble with stuff you can't lose.

[E]

That's right.

[A]

And I remember that so vividly. Losing it, being so upset. I just give it back. I want it. I never saw it again.

[E]

She probably saw the foreshadow of, like, you being an older man and being like, here's my wedding ring. How much can I get for this in Vegas?

[A]

Or she pawned the Cubs hat so she could play bingo. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I appreciate that from her. I didn't at the Time.

[E]

Yeah, that's a good lesson. It's like my kids now. Like, if they gamble because they love to say, like, I bet you he'll hit a home run right here and be like, you can't just say that. Like, if you say, I'll bet you and there's a dollar amount, it's gotta be paid and they do it. And now they say it less, but they still do it. I bet you two bucks this is gonna happen. Okay. And it doesn't happen. They pay.

[A]

What if they don't have the money?

[E]

No, they have to have the cash before they even make the bet. Yes.

[A]

You don't send, like, the loan shark out to take down their knees.

[E]

That's the real lesson.

[A]

You have to break a finger just to show them in life. This is what happens when you don't pay.

[E]

This will happen.

[D]

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welcome back to the Bobbycast.

[A]

I got two more headlines here. So Mara Higgins, she's famous. I didn't know her either because the stuff that she does I'm not super familiar with. She was on Love island, which I've never watched, and then the Traitors, which I've not watched. Familiar with either of those shows.

[E]

I've heard of them but never watched them.

[A]

So I think she finished second on the Traitors because I've only seen clips. I think that dude beat her and then bought her a purse. I'm pretty sure this is her. But they've cast her on Dancing with the Stars. I think they've announced two or three of the people for the upcoming season of Dancing with the Stars.

[E]

Okay. It's like a slow roll announcement.

[A]

Yeah. And usually they'll do one, maybe two. Last season they announced Alex Earle way early and then somebody else a little closer, and then they do the whole announcement. Am I right on her, Mike? Yeah, Run her up. Okay. So she's been announced that she's gonna be on the cast, and they went to her in a red carpet interview and they said, hey, you're gonna be Dancing with the Stars. Do you know how to dance? Do you have any training? Are you going to start now? And she said she doesn't know how to dance. She says, I'm training and she is really not going to do anything to get ready. She wants to be a blank canvas. She goes, she's been advised to be a blank canvas when you get there and it'll be better for you. I'd like to say, as somebody who won that show, that's terrible advice. It's the worst advice Ever. I was a blank canvas. And I don't know, you may look and see if she has any dance history at all, like cheerleading, even competitive

[E]

dance, any kind of dance experience.

[A]

If I could go back in time because they asked me to do the show because I was on American Idol, I had done, I guess, one season. I was coming back for a second season as, like, the official mentor. So I was on every episode. And Ryan had just started doing Ryan, Seacrest, Ryan, and Kelly in New York. And so there was. He couldn't get back for as many shoots. I was filling in for a lot of that stuff with the contestants, so I had a prominent role. But a lot of it was because they needed someone to also supplement when Ryan couldn't be back. And then also it was if Ryan's sick, because that happened once. I had to host a show because I think there's been three hosts of that show ever. Me, for one episode, Seacrest and Dunkelman.

[E]

Wow. Back in the day.

[A]

So ABC is like, hey, you want to do the show Dance with Stars? And I was like, I don't think so. I know how to dance. They're like, no problem. You'll be kicked off in four weeks. Because everybody gets through one week.

[E]

And don't worry about it.

[A]

Usually that's what they said. You'll be off in about four weeks. And then usually the old people fall because they have, like, hip injur and stuff.

[E]

Wow, that's crazy.

[A]

And so I was like, okay. I don't really know what I was doing. I especially didn't know how to dance. But if abc, my boss on the television side, wanted me to do it, I was for sure going to do it. So I agreed to it. And then I just kept working. Did Idol, doing the radio show, touring. I didn't do anything until it was time, until the day that they came here, because they come to you at first and you meet your partner. And so when Sharna was here and I met her, I had no understanding even of ballroom dance, because it's all ballroom dance. My advice would be, might you see any dance experience at all? She was a young kid. She did some Irish dancing. So maybe she has a slight.

[E]

Is that a category in a little ballet?

[A]

But she was really young.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[A]

So there's possibly, as your people would say, un poquito.

[E]

Yes, un poquito experience.

[A]

Everything's your people. I love it. So there may be a little in there. If I could go back, I would not go on blank canvas. I would at least learn the Fundamentals. I wouldn't learn too much. I didn't even know what an eight count was or that even went on. Eight counts? Yeah.

[E]

I don't even know what that is.

[A]

Same. And I remember getting there and showing it being, okay, we're going to do this to an eight count. Yeah.

[E]

What's an eight count?

[A]

I get. We're supposed to count to eight, but

[E]

what do you mean?

[A]

Yeah, that. And then if you're not in shape, like, different. I could run, I can lift.

[E]

Yeah, you were in shape.

[A]

It's. Dan, shape is a whole different animal.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you'd be training four to six hours a day for me, even longer than that, because so far behind and because of what you're doing on your feet at that pace for so long, your calves strain.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

Your back, your neck. It's all things you don't think about. It is not as intense as doing sprints for 45 minutes or an hour, but overall, through the day, it's way more intense. And I remember having to get people to come and just, like, hire people to give me massages because it was hurting so bad and I was in really good shape.

[E]

Gosh. You don't realize that.

[A]

So she ain't going to see this. But Mara Higgins, if you're watching this and you're going in this blank slate, you got to get yourself in dance shape so you can then learn more, because there's only so much they can put on you if your body doesn't allow you to learn it. And then two, you probably have the fundamental understanding of the counts. If she has some experience at all. But anybody doing that show, don't go in blank. At least go in getting ready physically and knowing what you don't know, that would help you tremendously.

[E]

And this comes from a former champ, so.

[A]

Yeah, former.

[E]

Former Dancing with the Stars champion.

[A]

Controversial.

[E]

Please tell me that you told whoever told you it was only gonna be four weeks and you're gone. Please tell me, like, every week you're like, four weeks, huh?

[A]

No, mostly after every week, I was like, I'm still on, huh? Wow.

[E]

Four weeks. Looks like we're at six.

[A]

I was never in the bottom three, and I just kept waiting to get put in the bottom three, but I was never in the bottom three. And they don't tell you how you're doing with the fan vote ever.

[E]

Really.

[A]

It is not something that's shared. And so I would dance and get mostly sevens.

[E]

Yeah. Whatever the judge would say.

[A]

There's maybe a 6 occasionally, maybe an 8 occasionally. But mostly sevens. If I had to look back, it's probably. My average score is probably in the sevens. Where other people were eights and nines, there was people that got tens. I was never that. But after the show was all the way over, because there are, like, legalities to favoring people in a competition where there's money. There are, like, game show rules because of them catching people cheating at game shows back in the 50s and 60s, so they can't tell you anything. They can't show you any. Anything favorable. At the end, after it was over, they came to me and they said, your fan vote was so high, you probably could have just taken it. I say the word dump, dump on the floor and walked off and still won.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Which was crazy. I had no idea.

[E]

That is crazy.

[A]

And. And I. I mean, I worked. Everybody works hard. You don't last on the show without working hard. But I was so far behind. I think I can confidently say I outworked everybody by far because I was so bad. If. I think if I'd gotten an even. I wouldn't because I was doing two other jobs at the same time.

[E]

Oh, yeah, man, you were so busy then. So when she says, I've been advised to just be a blank canvas, who is she being advised by? Her pro?

[A]

No, I don't think.

[E]

Does she know who her pro is yet?

[A]

Probably not. Okay, so she probably doesn't know her pro and probably just people who've done the show because the show's been around 35 seasons.

[E]

Okay, but you're not advising that, so.

[A]

No, I'm advising the answer.

[E]

Whoever she's talking to, I would advise.

[A]

Okay, if she has a little bit of dance experience, a little bit of ballet, a little bit of Irish, Irish, Irish folk or whatever it is, that's great. She probably has the understanding. Physically, I would start dancing because it's like wanting to run a marathon, but not on marathon day, but no training beforehand. Like, could you really go out and do it if you just push yourself through it? Yep. But day two is going to be terrible because you're going to be hurting so bad even if you're in decent shape. So that's all.

[E]

Okay, do the rest. The rest of people that are not announced, are they. Do they know they've made it at this point?

[A]

Let's see, it's basically May, June, July, August. Probably not all.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I would assume right now there's. There's probably half the cast that knows some that has told them. Do they really want. Yeah, I probably can. But Give me a little time. And some they've told, hey, we can't confirm you yet, but hopefully we'll be able to confirm you soon. Depending on. They don't say this, depending on who accepts, but that shows just popped off like crazy again.

[E]

Yeah, it's funny too because like when I go back home and I see family or whatever and they're just like, oh my gosh, I love Bobby Bones. I love that you work with Bobby Bones. Like, and it's always different, right? Like, oh, I love the radio show. Or I love, you know, Dancing with the Stars. I love Dancing with the Stars. A lot of people, I say the majority of them older ladies, like Bobby from Dance with the Stars. When you see him, tell him I rooted so hard for him to win and I'm so glad he won the championship.

[A]

I mean, it's been seven years or something.

[E]

They still remember it.

[A]

And the people that come up to me still about that seat because unless there's something for me to talk about with it, I don't normally talk about it because I don't want to be just playing the same hit over and over again.

[E]

Right. The has been.

[A]

Yeah, I don't wanna. I don't wanna be. We did a One Hit Wonder episode. You know, I got more hits to play. I don't wanna play that song.

[E]

You do.

[A]

But I love talking about it. But it's wild this many years later that people will come up still so lit up about it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And remember it.

[E]

It's gotta be a feeling because like, I was thinking of, like, you know, when I don't think somebody was interviewing Matthew Broderick, talking about Ferris Bueller's Day off. And they're like, when you see that movie, what do you think of. And to Ferris Bueller or to Matthew Broderick, it's gotta be a glimpse in his career. Like, I don't know, it was how many months? Two months of us just shooting it and then promoting it and that's it. And I've done so many other things, but people want to talk about that one thing that they remember you from. I feel like with Dance with the Stars that was such. Just a little part of your life.

[A]

Yeah. It was all in six months.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Very hard. Six months. Not just for the dancing, but for the. Again, I think I was the only one working a full time job at the same time. But also, it's not like, you know, I was hauling hay or you were dancing though, man. I was. And I was doing a radio show five, six hours And I was traveling, I was touring, doing stand up. It was very hard. And physically it was hard because of the show. But it was six months. But I remember there were a couple people that told me, leading into it, because I thought about not doing it, because I thought at the time, I don't want to do this show because my association, because I'd never seen the show as far as, like, watched it with any regularity. Obviously, I knew the show, pop culture phenomenon when it launched and they announced the people every year. I would be like, man, I don't want to be like somebody that goes on a show because there has been and, like, it's their last, you know, cling to fame. And I had a couple friends that were like, well, you never have been. So you don't worry about that. It has been.

[E]

You never had.

[A]

Yeah, can't go down fame wise, like. Yeah, that's a good point. But I remember Drew Scott, one of the.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Property Brothers.

[A]

Property Brothers. He had done it and I'd asked him, we were playing a softball game together and you're not supposed to share. You sign an NDA. But they do say you can talk about it. If you talk about it with the old cast member, like to ask advice, that's fine. I saw Drew Scott and I said, hey, you did the show. And he was like, dude, you have to do it. I said, but for you, like, were you good at it? He goes, no, look at me. He's tall and gangly. And he goes, I didn't know what I was doing. He said, you have to do it. And so to see another, like, goofy white dude be like, you have to do it. And then Charlamagne, the God on the Breakfast Club in New York, one of my really close friends, I was like, I don't want to be a has been. And he didn't hit me with the, well, you never have been, so don't worry about it. But he was saying, hey, look at the people, though, that are on the come up that have done it. Kim Kardashian, Zendaya, Wendy, Will. There's just all these people that have

[E]

been as famous as they are now.

[A]

And he was like, that wasn't the headline because they were still on the come up. So the headline is always like, Vanilla Ice.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, Paul McCartney's mailman.

[E]

All the way down.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So that's what makes the news. Not the people that are on the way up. Because that's not the news.

[E]

That's another really good point. Yeah.

[A]

So I did it. But thanks to their advices, Mara, you got get yourself a dancing shape and you may be good on the fundamentals. So there you go.

[D]

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[A]

And then finally, something we talked about last week. The Michael Jackson movie. Michael.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Which we didn't see, but Mike D. Did see it. And you really liked it? Yeah, it's pretty good. As far as music biopics go. I think of the ones that have come out recently, like Elvis and the Bob Dylan, the Bruce Springsteen movie, it's the best one.

[E]

So did he say biopics?

[A]

Biopic, yeah.

[E]

What is it? A biopic or biopic?

[A]

The word looks like biopic. It does, but it's biopic because it's a. Like a biopic.

[E]

Biology pick.

[A]

No, biography.

[E]

Oh, biography.

[A]

A biology pick.

[E]

With biological.

[A]

Yeah, a biology.

[E]

Yeah, it's true. So close, though. Those words are so close together.

[A]

So he liked it. I'll watch it. The controversy, though, was they didn't put any of his controversies in. Correct. But the reason was it cut off at a certain year before the controversies.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Was that to you something that was very apparent in the movie, or did it just feel like it ended at a time they wanted to end? Yeah, it didn't feel incomplete to me at the time that they chose to end it. I was like, that makes sense. It's not like it felt like, oh, wait, they didn't talk about that. It felt right. The top grossing music biopics of all time.

[E]

Ooh, interesting.

[A]

Now I have the list. I have the top 10. I'm curious to see how many you can name.

[E]

Man, this is tough. I can name a lot of them. But I wonder, like, top grossing. I wonder if Ray was one of

[A]

the top grossing at number nine. Ray.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Not know that you're on, though. Ray was awesome, by the way.

[E]

Ray was one of my favorites because my son was asking me about. He loves movies and he was asking about the Michael Jackson one. And I said. He said, what are some other good ones? Because he's seen Bohemian Rhapsody. He's like, eh, that was okay, whatever. He's like, what are some good ones? And I said, ray, you have to watch Ray. Ray's really good. And then I love the Johnny Cash one. Walk the Line.

[A]

Walk the line at number six, 1.86.8 million. Also great.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon.

[E]

Newer but really good. Elvis.

[A]

Elvis number two. 288.7 million. I didn't much like that.

[E]

Really? You didn't like that?

[A]

Felt too spacey and goofy.

[E]

It was definitely different. And that's the director's style.

[A]

Buzz Luhrmann. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah, that's his style.

[A]

Yeah. I'm sure Austin Butler was great in it. I watched it. I just thought the Tom Hanks character was Colonel Tom. Elvis Presley.

[E]

Elvis Presley.

[A]

It felt like an impression of somebody doing an impression out of somebody being. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

The makeup was weird, too.

[E]

Yeah, that was really weird.

[A]

That threw me off so much. I really couldn't enjoy the. The history.

[E]

I agree.

[A]

Okay. You got three so far out of ten.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

What about Bohemian Rhapsody, number one, $910 million?

[E]

Wow. You know, I've never seen it. I've never seen it. It's good, and I think it's good.

[A]

It's really good if you're casual. It's pretty good if you're a real music fan. Like, if you like. You enjoy studying, like, the history of music.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Which we do. I think you'll like it. I think your kids will like it.

[E]

And.

[A]

And Rami Mollik's really good in it.

[E]

Yeah. So you do all the singing?

[A]

No. Remember we had the guy on our show?

[E]

Oh, that's right. He came in. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Mark Martell guy. Yeah. He's so good. It sounds just like Freddie Mercury.

[A]

So number one, 910 million is Mahinda Rhapsody. Number two, Elvis. Number three is Michael. Already at 207.3 million already. That's a lot of money, right? Movie. Yeah, that's a lot of money. Mike has a movie podcast, by the way.

[E]

That's why he knows this stuff.

[A]

So that's top three at six, walk the line at nine. Ray, what else you got? La Bamba didn't make it.

[E]

Oh, I know. I was going on a limb there,

[A]

but that's one strike. You get two more strikes.

[E]

Okay, man. Some other. Really. Trying to think of, like, who are some of the. Selena. Come on. That's another. That's another big swing.

[A]

I don't know what number 10 is, and it's not Selena. I think it's kind of from your people.

[E]

Okay, what is 10, as my people

[A]

say Lavai and Rose.

[E]

Oh, no.

[A]

La Verre en Rose.

[E]

No, that's got to be, like, French or something. But who's the artist? Is that the artist?

[A]

I don't know. It's number 10. It made $87 million.

[E]

Whoa.

[A]

It's French.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

So mostly my people European, as your people would say.

[E]

Man, I don't know.

[A]

What is that, Mike? What is that about Levi in Rose? It is the tumultuous life of French singer Edith Piaf. I don't know who Edith Piaf is.

[E]

Don't Know.

[A]

Shit. Microphone on. Yeah. So they can hear you. Okay, good. That's making sure. Edith Piaf. Yeah. Okay. So we have. You got one more strike.

[E]

This is my last one.

[A]

Yeah. I can give you a hand.

[E]

Oh, I'm neglecting the hip hop world. I think that 8 mile.

[A]

Not a biopic.

[E]

Not a biopic. Okay. I wasn't gonna say eight Mile.

[A]

Kidding. I knew you weren't.

[E]

Although.

[A]

Eight Miles. Awesome.

[E]

Yeah, eight Mile. So good. What about. What's it.

[A]

You got it?

[E]

Compton.

[A]

Yep. Straight out of Compton. Number four. $201 million. So there are three. You haven't got one of them. I know you've seen and you love the artist. I don't care for the artist at all. I don't dislike the artist, but I don't like. This is not my music.

[E]

Jimmy Buffett doesn't have a biopic.

[A]

But you're in the. You're in the right ballpark. Ish.

[E]

Oh, Bob Marley.

[A]

Bob Marley. Yeah. Bob Marley. One Love. $181 million.

[E]

Not a fan of that one.

[A]

But you love Bob Marley.

[E]

Love Bob Marley. The movie to me was just fluff movie.

[A]

Might you see it? Yeah. Not very good. It made 181 million. Yeah.

[E]

So I think we all saw it. They got us there.

[A]

That's the thing about music biopics. They still get you to pay your money to go see it. Even if it's a bad movie.

[E]

Yeah. Because I bought it. You know, like when you can stream it, you're like, buy it or rent it? I'm like, I'm buying it. I will watch this all the time.

[A]

They also do really well internationally, so.

[E]

Okay, two left.

[A]

I know. I think for. I think for sure. That's not really a term, but I think for sure. You've seen Number eight. It's come out in the last couple to few years.

[E]

Okay. So I was gonna ask the other

[A]

ones probably in the last five to seven years.

[E]

Okay. So they're all pretty recent. They're both pretty recent, man. Is it Walk Hard? Dewey? The Dewey Cox story.

[A]

No, not a real biopic. But excellent.

[E]

Good one, dude.

[A]

Excellent. That one is so underappreciated for funny. That freaking movie is.

[E]

You don't want this doing. Walk away.

[A]

It's not addictive,

[E]

man. Give me a hint.

[A]

Like, okay, number five making 195 million. He is not American. If I tell you.

[E]

Oh, I got it.

[A]

Go ahead.

[E]

Is Elton John.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Was it Rocket Man? It is Rocket Man.

[A]

And the guy that played Elton John. Edgar Targaton. Taryn Egerton. There you go, man.

[E]

You gave a good effort there.

[A]

I tried to hit some of those tartar sauce. He looked like Brooks Nader. Now I would like to see them together like. Okay, okay, okay. What's the name again? Taran Egerton. Yeah. Is that not what I said? He's a good actor. You ever see the episode of Friends where Joey can't do French back?

[E]

Yes. That's, like what that was.

[A]

And number eight happened last couple years. It's an artist you really like. It's an artist that I just kind of like.

[E]

Huh.

[A]

But you really like them? I can appreciate their value to music. Not really my favorite. We both seen them in concert. Probably not together, but seen this person in concert.

[E]

This person. Is it Bob Dylan? It's Bob Dylan.

[A]

A complete unknown. Complete unknown making $140 million. Yeah.

[E]

Did you like that movie?

[A]

It's pretty good.

[E]

Yeah, I liked it. I enjoyed it for what it was. I didn't know that it was only going to be that period of his life where he was going from folk singer to electric, which was a huge part of his life. But I just thought it was going to be more than that. So I liked it for what it was. I thought it was gonna be something else.

[A]

Those are your top all time. I just thought it was crazy. Michael Jackson's is already over $200 million already. And it just came out.

[E]

You ever seen the Doors with Val Kilmer?

[A]

Iceman?

[E]

Yeah, Iceman's in it. He's. He's Jim Morrison.

[A]

Edgar Turkerton.

[E]

Edgar turns those.

[A]

I don't think I've seen it.

[E]

Oh, dude, that's a good one. That's a really good one. Little long, but man. Covers their. The whole career.

[A]

I don't know that I'm a Doors guy, though. Enough to get me into it. I did see a tick tock though, with Mike D from the Beastie Boys doing, I think, what you want with his two sons.

[E]

Really? Like, recently. Oh, that's cool.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

That's really cool. Will you send me that video whenever you get home today? I think I want you so what you. What you want?

[A]

I'm a big Beastie Boys fan. I shouldn't know what song it was, but he was performing it with his two sons.

[E]

Are they good?

[A]

It was mostly him.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

But they were doing it with him and they were teenagers, I think.

[E]

Okay. Because I'm saying they're older. Yeah, I think.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

That sounds cool. All right.

[A]

There we go. Thanks for listening or watching our show called stuff that we Talked about.

[E]

Talked about yet? I don't know.

[A]

I just not. What do we even list this as?

[E]

What do you mean? Like, title it?

[A]

Yeah, because if we do something like, you missed this, it's just gonna seem like we're just doing old segments.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

It can just be current stuff.

[A]

Oh, that's. I didn't. That's a good one.

[E]

Current stuff.

[A]

Current stuff.

[E]

Boom. We just got it. Nailed it.

[A]

Mike, what do we call this thing? I like current stuff, man.

[E]

Just can't beat it.

[A]

That might be it.

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Current stuff. Current stuff. We're talking about.

[A]

Current stuff. We're talking about.

[E]

There you go. Wow.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Or is that kind of, like, dyslexic? Could you say we're talking about current stuff, or is that like two Yoda?

[D]

Ish?

[E]

Current stuff. We're talking about.

[A]

What if we call it. We're talking about current stuff. We're talking about current stuff.

[E]

That sounds normal.

[A]

This week.

[E]

Better.

[A]

This week.

[E]

There we go.

[A]

No, I'm just saying, this week we'll call it that toy.

[E]

Oh, I thought you were adding this week to it. No, now it's a whole phrase.

[A]

Until. Until we decide we can't.

[E]

Okay, hit it.

[A]

Stay with it. Okay, what's it called?

[E]

We're talking about current stuff.

[A]

We're talking about current stuff. Okay. We're talking about. All right. Thank you, everybody, on Netflix for watching. We're talking about current stuff. We'll see you next week, everybody.

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