BobbyCast #604 - Caitlin and Bobby talk Birth and Baby in Special Q+A

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: BobbyCast #604

Episode Title: Caitlin and Bobby Talk Birth and Baby in Special Q+A
Date: May 6, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones (C)
Guest: Caitlin (A)
Theme: A candid Q&A on new parenthood, relationships, Caitlin’s challenging pregnancy, parenting philosophies, and life with baby Billie.

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Episode Overview

In this intimate and lighthearted episode, Bobby and Caitlin, new parents to baby Billie, answer listeners’ questions about their journey through pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum life, and adjusting to parenthood. The conversation blends humor, vulnerability, and insightful reflections on love, family, and the realities of raising a newborn.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Best Thing About Being Parents ([02:07]–[04:56])

• Bobby's Take:
  • The sheer novelty and miracle of creating a human being together.
  • Parenting focuses attention so intently on the baby that there’s little time for existential wonder—but it has solidified them as a family unit.

    “It's definitely fortified the unit...where the bike doesn't have a kickstand on the side. Holds it all up. It's crazy.” (C, [03:19])

• Caitlin's Joy:
  • Overwhelming joy from their daughter, Billie.
  • She didn’t anticipate just how much happiness Billie would bring, leading to a richer, more vibrant appreciation of daily life.

    "I just burst with joy every morning. Like, I can't believe that Billy's here again today, every day." (A, [04:11])

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2. Impact on Their Marriage ([04:59]–[07:38])

• The early weeks focused on getting into a parenting rhythm rather than couple time.
• Both agree their love has deepened in new, unexpected ways by seeing each other as parents.

  “It's like you pulled the curtain and there’s a whole area you didn’t even see...and now you’re like, oh, wow, I didn’t even know that area was open to.” (C, [06:45])

• More appreciation and admiration for each other as partners and now as Billie’s parents.

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3. Biggest Surprises About Parenting & Newborns ([07:38]–[10:32])

• Bobby is surprised by the toll childbirth takes on a woman’s body—emphasizing the lack of sufficient support in healthcare and return-to-work expectations for new mothers.

  “I don't know how women do it. You gotta go back to work, three, four weeks after you have a baby. Horrible.” (C, [08:34])

• Caitlin echoes how lengthy and intense postpartum healing is—physically and hormonally.

  “Just how intense the hormones can be and the moods that come with them.” (A, [10:09])

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4. Parenting Choices: Privacy, Looks, and Family ([10:36]–[15:26])

• Showing Billie’s Face:

  • For now, they choose not to share Billie’s face on social media for privacy and safety, given past difficulties with public attention.

    “As her mom, it is my job to protect her, and I feel that this is a way I should protect her. She can decide when she’s older.” (A, [11:04])

• Who Does Billie Look Like?

  • Bobby sees bits of both himself and Caitlin in Billie, with friends and family often seeing their own side reflected.

• First Trip Away from Billie:

  • Bobby felt reassured leaving Billie with Caitlin’s experienced parents during a short trip.

    “I think I would have had much more of an issue if it were just you…but because your parents were here, I didn't feel that need.” (C, [14:58])

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5. Baby Updates: Health, Sleep, College Debates ([15:26]–[17:30])

• Billie is described as healthy, good-natured, with a guess at 11 pounds and a talent for sleeping well.
• Playful banter on which state Billie is ‘allowed’ to support—Tennessee, Arkansas, or Oklahoma—and friendly rivalry over alma maters.

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6. Best & Worst Baby Purchases ([17:36]–[19:55])

• Best:
  • Pregnancy/gym ball (“the number one way to get her to calm down”), inexpensive and invaluable ([17:59])
  • Graco swing brings comfort (“That's a great thing.” – A, [18:30])
  • Rubber ducky thermometer for bath time (Bobby’s favorite, [19:04])
• Least Useful:
  • Mini baby bathtub, which was quickly outgrown and replaced by a simpler bath insert.

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7. Hardest Adjustment: Lifestyle Changes ([21:19]–[22:43])

• No more spontaneous outings or vacations—everything centers around Billie’s sleep and feeding schedule.
• Weekends are no longer restful; those with kids will relate to losing relaxed ‘off days.’

  “Everything is now timed out, at least in this season.” (C, [22:03])

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8. Decor Talk & Domestic Life ([22:43]–[23:39])

• Lighthearted debate about Bobby’s supersized TV and Caitlin’s decorative curtains—just one example of blending personal tastes in married life.

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9. Birth Story and Caitlin’s High-Risk Pregnancy ([23:55]–[34:34])

• Most powerful section of the episode.

• Highlights:

  • Billie was born to Brooks & Dunn’s “Neon Moon,” a family favorite and wedding song ([24:43]).
  • Caitlin opens up about her autoimmune disease, daily chemo pill, and being reclassified as high-risk early in pregnancy.
  • Over 40 ultrasounds, constant stress, and rigorous medical monitoring.

  “Normally in a...normal pregnancy, you have two to three [ultrasounds]. I might have had over 40. So it was really intense.” (A, [27:37])

• After so much anxiety, the moment Billie was born was pure joy:

  “As soon as they put her on your chest, you just started saying that, I love her so much. I love her so much. That’s the part...it makes it a bit more dynamic and you understand why it was so powerful.” (C, [30:44])

• Caitlin describes naming Billie in honor of her father and a special moment listening to Billie Holiday’s “I’ll Be Seeing You” ([32:24]).

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10. Postpartum Life & Support System ([34:38]–[36:08])

• Caitlin describes gradual physical and emotional recovery, going to therapy, being kind to herself, and loving her new role as mom.

  “I'm too early in the process to like, judge myself. I'm just taking it a day at a time, feeling my feelings.” (A, [35:15])

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11. Introducing Billie to Friends & Family ([37:20]–[41:28])

• List is kept tight due to pediatrician’s precautions—only close friends and immediate family so far.
• Emphasize the importance of intimate, real-life support and observation for friends about to become parents.

  “It's almost a cheat sheet to go over and just observe your friend doing it and be like, okay, I can do that. It's not hard.” (A, [41:10])

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12. Navigating Work Commitments During High Risk Pregnancy ([41:28]–[45:41])

• Story of Bobby’s work cruise during Caitlin's high-risk late pregnancy.
• They prepared with medical clearances and support at home; candid talk on the stress and outside criticism they faced.

  “Sometimes there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than you know.” (A, [43:05])

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13. Advice for New Parents ([45:46]–[47:53])

• Caitlin: "You are about to have the best day of your life."
• Advice to be gentle with oneself, accept help, and understand the massive physical and emotional shifts of new parenthood.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It's crazy that sperm and eggs make a child...There's a reason poor people don’t have great existential thoughts. You know why? Because they gotta work and they don’t have time to think about existential things.” (C, [02:24])
• “I feel like I'm operating on about a third grade level in all areas right now...my brain has lost what it was.” (A, [09:12])
• “If they're plotting her face, her nose is your baby nose...I would prefer her not to look like me.” (C, [13:11])
• “I can't imagine putting Billie in a position to where she would ever have to go through something like that…So…we will not show her face as of right now.” (A, [12:19])
• “Just be easy with yourself. Accept help. Period.” (A, [47:50])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:07] – Best thing about being parents
• [04:59] – How a child changes their marriage
• [07:38] – Biggest surprises of new parenthood
• [10:49] – On privacy and not sharing Billie’s face
• [13:05] – Who Billie looks like debate
• [17:36] – Best/worst baby purchases
• [21:19] – Hardest adjustment post baby
• [23:55] – Birth story and Caitlin’s medical journey
• [32:24] – The story behind Billie’s name
• [34:43] – Postpartum reflections
• [37:20] – Who’s met Billie and why
• [41:28] – How they handled Bobby’s work cruise
• [45:46] – Advice for soon-to-be parents

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Tone & Final Moments

The episode is full of gentle humor, vulnerability, supportive banter, and open acknowledgment of the anxieties, joys, and oddities of new parent life. It ends with an impromptu, silly “Mom and Billy Show” theme song performed by Caitlin, epitomizing the playful, loving spirit of this special Q&A.

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Summary:
A warm, heartfelt, and often funny episode about new parenthood, highlighting joys, challenges, medical realities, decision-making as partners, and the transformative love that comes with welcoming a child. Clear themes of being gentle with oneself, relying on support, and savoring family milestones shine throughout.

Transcript

[A]

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[C]

All right, welcome to the Bott Bobby and Caitlyn Show. The Caitlyn and Bobby Show. Yeah, we're gonna answer questions because you don't trust me to just run this normally. What do you mean you don't trust me? Just bring up stuff to talk about.

[A]

Oh, I trust you.

[C]

You said ask and we'll answer questions.

[A]

No, because I thought, I thought you were just gonna ask me questions off the top of your head.

[C]

Will that be part of it?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't have some posters.

[A]

Do whatever you want.

[C]

I have a Weezer poster.

[A]

Oh, that's what that is.

[C]

I have a green Weezer poster, Arkansas poster up in the. Up there. Have a say by the Bell poster. They're going in the other studio on the wall.

[A]

Oh, God. I was worried that's what those posters are.

[C]

Okay, okay, I'm just gonna go raw dog from the questions. All right, number one, what's the best thing about being parents? This is from Jill Corn. J I L C O R N. You go first. What's the best thing about.

[A]

You go first.

[C]

The best thing about being parents? I think that it's bizarre that there's a human that's created from two people. And I think a lot of that novelty wears off quickly with folks when they have a kid because there's no time to think about that novelty. And there's not a lot of time to invest in thinking about how crazy it is. That sperm and eggs make a child. Whenever you are always paying attention to making sure the kid is alive, it's. When I think back, there's a reason that poor people don't have great existential thoughts. You know why? Because they got to work and they don't have time to think about existential things. And so I feel the same way about parenting, is that I think we would be like, this is crazy all the time if it wasn't constant focus on attention on the baby. So that's not an answer. The answer is it has definitely fortified the unit.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

Like, us together. Us with her. It's a. You know, where the bike. There's not a kickstand on the side. Holds it all up. It's crazy.

[A]

So she's a kickstand. Yeah, she holds us up.

[C]

Yeah. Right now.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

Yeah. So I would say that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What do you think the best thing

[A]

about being a parent right now? I think, is just the immense amount of joy that I get from Billie, from her existence. Like, I knew I would love her, which. It's a whole different type of love I have never felt, but I knew I would love her. I just. I don't think I ever thought about the joy that would come with it. And I have so much joy. Like, I think I enjoy life more. I find things funnier.

[C]

No, you find really dumb things funnier.

[A]

But it's. Cause I'm so joyful. Like, I just burst with joy every morning. Like, I can't believe that Billy's here again today, every day. So I think the best thing is just having so much joy, so much happiness that comes from her being in the world.

[C]

Did you not think you would have it?

[A]

I never thought about joy specifically and having a child. No, not. Not that I didn't think I would have it. I just think it's something I hadn't experienced at this level. Am I not. Am I not making sense?

[C]

No, that's fair.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Has having a baby improved your marriage? This is from Bear Hn. We just came from therapy a second ago, and he asked us, hey, how have you guys been doing on time together? And my answer was. And you didn't get a reaction in therapy, but I don't know that there was an expected reaction. My answer was, you know, we kind of dedicated this time to getting this early snow globe part of pregnancy. Right. There's. There's a good 8, 10, 12 weeks where I told myself we wouldn't be concerned with our dynamics specifically. Like, to make sure we have Time. We just need to get into a rhythm. And then. And I told him, if you ask me this in four weeks, I'll probably have a different answer, but I feel like we're good. Even though I feel like it's made our marriage more. It's more fruitful. For sure. We have a real life fruit now, but I don't think that you and I have done a lot of stuff just together. There's not been really time for it.

[A]

I mean, we're together all the time, but. But we have Billy with us. Yeah, but what was the specific question?

[C]

Has it made your marriage better? Improved your marriage?

[A]

I mean, I think it's made us love each other more. We've both talked about that. Do you feel that way?

[C]

Yeah, in a different way, for sure.

[A]

What do you mean? Oh, love each other in a different way.

[C]

Yeah, of course. Like I, you know, I obviously and told you many times how much I loved you being my wife, but now that it's watching you be a mom, it's. It's a whole different kind of love. It's. It's like you pulled the curtain and there's a whole area that you didn't even see.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That now you're like, oh, wow, I didn't even know that area was open to. It didn't seem like that area was closed. But you didn't even know the area existed to be opened.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So, yeah, I would say that.

[A]

Yeah. I have the same feelings towards you. And also I was talking to Keaton about this, I guess, right after Billy was first born. And it was like one of the first pictures I sent her of you and Billy, probably like day two of Billy's life. And she responded and she said, doesn't it make you love him more? And I just said, yeah, because you. You are not only my husband, it's like you're Billy's dad and Billy's half of you. And I love this baby and I love seeing, you know, you and her and. Yeah, it's wild. Just a new. A new level of love and appreciation that I have for you, for sure.

[C]

This is from AM Reaser. What's the biggest surprise to you about being parents and having a newborn? Biggest surprise to me was the damage it does to a woman's body to have a baby. And unless you've actually, like, been a part of that, I don't think you really know. I'd heard, you know, when women are pregnant, it comes out, but I don't even really know first hand. I only know like first and a half hand. But yeah, the significant damage that it does. And it just makes me angry at our healthcare system that there's not. You can have time off without getting fired, but that doesn't mean you have to get paid to be fired or that doesn't mean you have to be paid. So like legally you're protected 12 weeks, 20 weeks, I could probably look that up. But it's not. Legally you're guaranteed to be paid.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

And that's what sucks.

[A]

You just can't be fired for it.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know how women do it. You gotta go back to work.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Horrible.

[C]

Three, four weeks after you have a baby.

[A]

Horrible.

[C]

Yeah. So to me the biggest surprise is really how hard it is. I don't even want to say normal, but to get back to feeling healthy again after you have a baby. So. And that's not even me, that's just what I've witnessed.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I guess I would copy you and say that I feel like it's almost unfair because you get to see all the questions and go through and pick them and you're definitely picking ones that you have answers to.

[C]

No, you're the.

[A]

No, for sure you have answers to the ones you're picking. So I feel like I'm taking.

[C]

Well, I went first. I went first and talked. You could have thought the whole time I was talking.

[A]

I was. First of all, my brain doesn't work. My brain has lost what it was

[C]

that tick tock I sent you.5% gray

[A]

matter.5% gray matter has been reallocated to Billy. So I feel like I'm operating on about a third grade level in all areas right now. But I would say the biggest surprise, I don't know why I think surprise of is a negative thing. My surprise could be a positive thing as well.

[C]

Yeah. My association with the word surprise is only positive.

[A]

But that's not positive, what you just said.

[C]

Yeah, it is. I've learned about it. It sucks for you.

[A]

But that's not a positive surprise.

[C]

I guess it wasn't negative either though. I just didn't know about it.

[A]

Pretty negative for. For the woman.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The healing process. But yeah, I would say that's surprise is just how long it takes to even sort of begin to feel like you're healing. It's a while.

[C]

Physically, hormonally all.

[A]

I mean, physically I'm feeling a lot better. Hormonally, I'm still all over the place. And I know they say that takes a long time, but I. So I Guess that's a surprise. Just how intense the hormones can be and the moods that come with them.

[C]

It's a lot of the same questions, really.

[A]

Okay, just go off the top.

[C]

No, no, I'll ask them, but I'm saying there's a lot of people. For example, will you ever show Billy's face? Congratulations to both of you. There's a lot of that question in here because people don't know what other people are asking. So you can answer that one if you want.

[A]

No. Right now, my answer is no. I see that being my answer for as long as I can make decisions for Billy. I feel very intensely that as her mom, and I know I'm just speaking as her mom now. Bobby has his own feelings on the matter. It is my job to protect her, and I feel that this is a way that I should protect her. She can grow up and decide she wants to share her face, and that's fine. But as of right now, for me, it's a no. I think that everyone makes decisions based on their own circumstances, and I don't have no judgment towards anyone who is choosing to share their child's face for our circumstances. I think we've been through things that are pretty gnarly over the past. How long have we been together? Nearly seven years, six and a half. I don't know. I don't even know what year it is. But we've been through some pretty intense things that we haven't talked about. But just know they're intense and they sucked, and we're over those. And that was really hard on both of us and extremely hard on me for years. And I can't imagine putting Billie in a position to where she would ever have to go through something like that. So I know that that has certainly guided my decision. But I. I am saying no. I. We will not show her face as of right now. We're always able to change our minds. I know that. But I feel very strongly right now that I don't want to show her face.

[C]

Who does Billie resemble the most right now?

[A]

Ooh, right now. Hmm. I don't know. She's starting to look a lot like my baby pictures. In the beginning, when she first was born, I would say she resembled you quite a bit. And now I'm definitely seeing more of myself in her. What do you think?

[C]

I think a little bit you're begging to see more of yourself in her. I think there are parts of her face that's yours.

[A]

Okay, then I'm not begging.

[C]

If they're plotting her face. Like, her nose is your baby nose. But you've tried to do the baby picture thing to me, and I'm like, I don't.

[A]

But I don't really see you in her right now.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Do you.

[C]

You don't have to take shots. I'm just saying, I just got a shot.

[A]

I don't care. I'm not one of those moms that's like, don't tell me that my baby looks like her dad. I don't care about that. But, I mean, she did.

[C]

I would prefer her not to look like me.

[A]

Or do you still think she looks a lot like you right now?

[C]

More so than you right now? Yes.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Face shape. Eyes.

[A]

Face shape. Yeah.

[C]

Yup.

[A]

She's a chunk in her face.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. She. I don't know. It's hard. She definitely has certain angles where she looks a lot like you. And I think she has angles where she looks like me. And I think it was. Maybe it was Eddie that said to us, like, whoever knows us better. Whoever knows you better will think she looks like you. And whoever knows me better will think she looks like me. And I think that that's been pretty true. If it's like my friends that I send pictures of her to, they'll say that they think she looks like me. However, some of your people have crossed over into my camp. Like, Eddie's wife thinks she looks more like me.

[C]

I think Eddie's wife's in your camp, though. If we look at friends, I think Eddie's wife is in your camp. Eddie's in my camp.

[A]

Josie. Today was like, she's looking. I sent her the video I sent you. She's like. She's looking like her mom. Yeah.

[C]

I think they need to say that. I'm good.

[A]

Please.

[C]

Please.

[A]

Okay. Whatever.

[C]

How was your first trip away from the baby, From Ash Harris?

[A]

You. How was your first? I've been away from her. You?

[C]

Well, we just went to therapy without her.

[A]

Oh. I think she's talking about Austin.

[C]

Oh, it's good. It's fine. Caitlin's parents were here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Your parents were here. So I think I would have had much more of an issue if it were just you.

[A]

Thanks.

[C]

Not because I don't think you could handle it. Obviously you do. But I'm saying I think I would have been more concerned and I would have felt the need to check in constantly if it were just you. Not that I could have done anything, but because your parents were here, I didn't feel that need.

[A]

Yeah. All right.

[C]

Three adults, two of them have already raised many children. So. Yeah, that's it. Let's see. How is baby Billy? I'll just rattle this.

[A]

She's great. She's an angel.

[C]

What's the weight of the baby and how she's sleeping now?

[A]

I don't know her weight right now.

[C]

If you had to guess.

[A]

I mean, if I had to guess. 11 pounds.

[C]

How's she sleeping?

[A]

Great. She's a really good sleeper, thankfully.

[C]

Arkansas or Oklahoma for college?

[A]

Oh, we talk about that.

[C]

This is the dumbest conversation we have because Kaitlyn does not take the side you would think she would take. Cause obviously you'd be like, well, Kaylin must be fighting for Oklahoma, because in my mind, there's only one option, and that's go to Arkansas.

[A]

Don't let me talk.

[C]

Why? I'm giving you time to think.

[A]

Don't you want to talk? I don't have time to think about this because we have this conversation. I say to you, I like Oklahoma because I was born there and raised there. You like Arkansas because you were born there and raised there. We don't need to steer Billie away from liking her own state. I'm not saying she has to go to college at Tennessee, but.

[C]

But I'm saying you sing Rocky Top and that's not even who you are.

[A]

It's a great state song. It's a great. It's arguably. I think it's the best state song.

[C]

I don't know any other state songs.

[A]

Really? Oklahoma.

[C]

No, but nobody knows that. Even Oklahomans probably wouldn't know that.

[A]

I actually think a lot of people know that because of the.

[C]

Unless it's in school. That's your state song. Oklahoma. Oklahoma.

[A]

I actually don't know if it's our

[C]

official state song, but I'm. But that's Rocky Top, I think, since he's official states.

[A]

Okay, but I'm just saying a song about a state. Well, West Virginia. Mountain Mama. That's a good one, too.

[C]

Again, but that's a real. That's a pop song from John Denver.

[A]

Okay, but I'm just saying.

[C]

Okay, regardless, we're anti Tennessee going. Her going to Tennessee.

[A]

Okay, that's fine if you. But I also think that we don't want her to grow up not liking the state she lives in. And we live in Tennessee and she's a Tennessee baby, which is weird for us. But I don't think we need to discourage that love. Like, I want her. How sad would it be if you grew up and people, like, were forbidding you from liking Arkansas and you lived

[C]

There they wouldn't have.

[A]

But. But that's my point. Like, we can't do that to her. So if she wants to be a little rocky top baby, that's fine with me.

[C]

Not an option.

[A]

That's fine by me.

[C]

Not an option. Best and worst thing you bought for the baby.

[A]

Best and worst thing.

[C]

Like, probably something we bought and we used and something we bought and we don't use as much as we thought we would.

[A]

I will have to think about the worst thing, the best thing that we bought for the baby. I would say we didn't even buy for the baby. And it's that big pregnancy ball that I bounced on when I was pregnant.

[C]

But that's.

[A]

And now.

[C]

Not a pregnancy ball. That's a gym.

[A]

No, it's. I mean, it was specifically a pregnancy ball.

[C]

Really? They make. That's the same.

[A]

I'm sure they're all the same. Yes, I'm sure they're all the same. They just market them different ways. But that one is the one you're supposed to bounce on towards the end of your pregnancy, and that is the number one way to get her to calm down if she's crying is bounce on that ball. So it was like $10 on Amazon. So that's a great thing. Another thing that we have that she really likes is that swing, the Graco swing.

[C]

Oh, yeah. She just got into that. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, she really loves that.

[C]

How do you spell it?

[A]

G, R, A, C, O. It's been around forever because I remember my mom had some of that brand for my sister. And I remember thinking, oh, that's so lucky, because her name was Grace and it was almost Grace on everything.

[C]

Oh, yeah. One letter off.

[A]

Yeah. I thought it was so cool. The worst thing we bought for her. I really can't think of anything.

[C]

I can. I'll go best. And I've talked about this, like, 72 times, and I know it's not a new thing, but the fact that a rubber ducky tells you the temperature of the water so the water's not too hot for your baby. A plus.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

We have one of those.

[A]

That's a good one.

[C]

Love it. The thing that we bought that we don't use is that first infant bath that we just donated. It was literally like a small bathtub. What we found that works for us is it's this little thing with holes in it. That's its own bath, but it takes the water from the bathtub.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So the thing that we have sits in the water and holes come up in it and it allows that water to get in it where the other thing was just an independent bathtub. I didn't like that we needed that

[A]

one at first because she was too little to get in the other one. And actually my parents got that for us from Target.

[C]

Well, it's not their fault.

[A]

Hey, wow.

[C]

I, I feel like that to me wasn't the one.

[A]

No, no, no, I understand what you're saying. But we had to use that the first couple weeks because she couldn't fit in the one that she is in now. So it was actually very helpful. Thanks, mom and dad. I'm sorry about him.

[C]

I didn't know.

[A]

Thanks, Mom, Dad.

[C]

I'm sorry about him that they're the ones who bought it. This was not a shot at mom and dad. I'm just saying that's the thing about him. If we can, let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

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[A]

Hardest adjustment. I mean the obvious ones like you can't do whatever you want anymore. We can't just be like, hey, you want to go see a movie? Which we didn't really do that before. But even like thinking about our summer vacation, things like that, that's all shifted.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, we've briefly thought of the idea of having a vacation, but we haven't even really decided if we're going to go anywhere or do anything.

[A]

Yeah. In the past you know, in the past, we would have been like, should we go to. Where should we go?

[C]

Like, the world is our oyster.

[A]

Let's go to Paris. Let's go to, you know, wherever. That's different. But that's fine.

[C]

Yeah. I would just say, like, everything is now timed out, at least in this season.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Everything is timed out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She's gotta sleep. She doesn't get enough sleep. Then she's. Then she is tired the rest of the day. Cause she didn't get enough sleep and that affects everything. So it's not just easy come, easy go anymore.

[A]

Yeah. And definitely there was like a difference in weekdays and weekends. Cause on the weekends it's like, oh, you get more rest and, you know, get to chill. It's not like that anymore. No, the weekends are. Are not rejuvenating.

[C]

Kalen posted a pic in front of your tv and there were curtains around it. Are those decorative?

[A]

Oh, yes, they are. They pull and cover the TV because Bobby wanted that massive tv.

[C]

And who doesn't want a massive tv?

[A]

Me.

[C]

There's a big spot on the wall.

[A]

Yeah, true. The spot was kind of begging for that. But regardless, we got this massive TV and it was just kind of an eyesore sometimes. So we put these cute little curtains up that match the rest of the curtains in our house. And we can pull it shut and it actually looks quite nice.

[C]

I don't know that we've ever pulled it shut.

[A]

I have.

[C]

I don't know that we have ever pulled it shut.

[A]

You've never.

[C]

I don't think I've ever seen it pulled shut.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

When you have a TV like that, that is. That's a hundred inch. It's that. Glorious.

[A]

Great.

[C]

There's no need to cover that up. We could cover the Mona Lisa.

[A]

I've covered it up. The Mona Lisa's tiny. Much smaller than people think.

[C]

No, no. Yes. I disagree.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

Because everybody said it was so small for so long, I expected to walk in and be a postage stamp. I felt like it was way bigger than I thought it was going to be. Because forever, everybody said it was so small.

[A]

I don't feel

[C]

maybe you haven't heard enough people talk about how small it is.

[A]

Maybe not.

[C]

The birth story is always one for the record books. Do you have anything you want to share?

[A]

Do I have anything I want us to share about our birth story.

[C]

That's from Jen K. Buckley. Thank you, Jen K. Buckley.

[A]

The thing I will share about the birth story one is this is the best day of my life, my entire life. Having Billy is number one. I. I hate. Not that I hate, but I know so many women are so nervous about giving birth and I hate that. And I was, too. And so I just want to encourage anyone that's pregnant. Just know you have the best day of your life coming up and that let that get you through. What was the. Any part I want to bring up? Is that what they said?

[C]

Yeah. Any part of your birth story.

[A]

Billy was born to Neon Moon, the song, which is awesome because we're really close with Ronnie and Janine and Rani sang Neon Moon at our wedding. We have a neon moon sign at our house that says our name on it. So that was really cool. Is there anything you can think.

[C]

I mean, I don't know what I can share. It's not my story.

[A]

I mean, were there any special moments for you? Yeah, go ahead.

[C]

I don't know. Can I share them? I don't know what they are exactly.

[A]

I can't imagine any special moments would be something that I'd be like, don't share that.

[C]

You were very nervous going into it, right?

[A]

Of course. Horse who isn't nervous that they're about to push if you've never done it before, it's terrifying.

[C]

Yes. You had a. A hard pregnancy?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I had a very. I had a hard pregnancy. I did. I have. Have I ever even talked about this, or. No. I have an autoimmune disease that I was diagnosed with how many years ago?

[C]

Three, four?

[A]

Yeah, all. It's all a bar. An autoimmune disease that I was diagnosed with three or four years ago. And it has been a really difficult health journey for me. And so when I got pregnant with Billy, I wasn't. I really sure how that would impact my pregnancy. I was on medication to help. I. I've been on medication for quite a while, like an oral chemotherapy pill that I take every day. And that has helped me feel a lot better. And I got approved to continue taking that. I chose that specific one because our doctor told me that whenever I got pregnant I would be able to still be on that one.

[C]

That's why you took it initially?

[A]

That's why? Yes, at the very beginning. Because I was like, I know we want to have kids. I don't know when we'll choose to do that. And I obviously need to get better before my body is able to do that. Not that I don't know if it was able to before, but just like, I wanted to be in the best place health wise, that to support a good, healthy pregnancy. So they gave me options on medication. I chose the one that they said would be fine to get pregnant on. And I was on that through my pregnancy. And even though I was on that, it was still a high risk pregnancy, which we found out, like second trimester, ish, late first trimester. We were told that because of my condition, it was high risk. So throughout my pregnancy, I had over 40 ultrasounds and if you.

[C]

Over 40 ultrasounds.

[A]

Over 40 ultrasounds. And if you know anything about pregnancy and ultrasounds, I didn't. Normally in a, in a normal pregnancy, you have two to three, your whole pregnancy. And I might have had it over 40. So it was really intense. Very intense.

[C]

Every time.

[A]

Stress inducing. Yeah. There are times I would just, Yes, I would get very anxious before every ultrasound and she was always fine. And some people might be like, oh, that's so fun. You get to see your baby, you know, twice a week towards the end. And it was, I mean, it was once a week for forever. And then at the end it was twice a week, actually three times a week.

[C]

Three times a week. It was twice a week and three times a week. Yeah, it's fun. And the reason you're going is not to see.

[A]

It's not fun.

[C]

It's like they're just trying to make sure they don't have to deliver bad news to you.

[A]

Right. And we had no idea before I got pregnant that it would be that intense. She turned out fine. She's great. But yeah, it wasn't like fun. Every time I went, I didn't get to like have that normal ultrasound experience where you get so excited to see your baby because a lot of times they, we weren't looking at her face. It was like for a majority of the time it was, we're checking her heart, we're checking all of the things that this baby needs to be healthy. So it was very stress inducing for pretty much my whole pregnancy. But then go ahead.

[C]

Because of how hard your pregnancy was, not only the emotional part of it, with every week, two and three times a week going in with, best case scenario, you not getting terrible news, us not getting terrible news. Like that's best case scenario to not get terrible news. And so that's a constant stress because every time you go in, you go, is this the time right where they, they tell me that the heart is.

[A]

Something's wrong?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I will say that whenever we first met with like our high risk doctor, they told us that they put me on another medication that would help Billy, help me not pass on the antibody that I have through the placenta and give it to her. They put me on a medication. A medication to mitigate that. And so we knew early on that it was probably all going to be fine. I don't want everyone to think that, like, the whole time it would.

[C]

I don't know. I think you, in. In hindsight, you make it seem a little easier.

[A]

Yeah, it was hard, for sure, it was hard, but I, It. I didn't.

[C]

Also, your autoimmune hurt you during pregnancy. Physically, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

My whole point wasn't that it was. You went through all that. You were very nervous about getting through it healthy. You're very nervous, obviously, about delivering the baby. But as soon as Billy was born, like, as soon as she was born and they put her on your chest, you lit up and you were like, I love her so much. I love her so much. It was just instant. No thinking.

[A]

No, it wasn't a thought. It was like a feeling.

[C]

It was like the number one moment. Yeah, that was the number one moment. It's right when she was crying. Neon Moon was playing. And as soon as they put her on your chest, you just started saying that, I love her so much. I love her so much. That's the part that I was going to bring up, but I think without knowing the earlier part, that part is still great, but I think it makes it a bit more dynamic and you understand why it was so powerful.

[A]

Yeah, Just a long time worrying about her in utero.

[C]

I was just concerned how food was gonna get up to us from Ubereats. And we figured it out. They would just bring it to different doors. Your parents were here?

[A]

Yeah, my parents were here. They got to be here for the birth, which was amazing. We got to tell my dad that she was named after him.

[C]

Yeah. You wanna tell that story how we told him? Well, I don't know. Obviously, she's named after your dad.

[A]

Oh, yeah, she's named after my dad.

[C]

How? A lot of people were like, how did you come up with it? Or how did you. How did you settle on it?

[A]

How do we settle?

[C]

Yeah, and there's another. It's like. There's like a bunch of these, and here's one's, like, other baby names. You considered why Billy? It's like an amalgamation of all that.

[A]

I can't share other baby names because what if we have another baby? I don't want to give those.

[C]

Well, I really fought hard for Bobby.

[A]

B, O, B, D, I. Yeah, he fought hard. That got. That got cut, actually. Bobby came, he presented the Name Billy to me. Sorry, I'm still sniffing up over here.

[C]

It's all right.

[A]

He presented the name Billy to me, and. Well, first he presented Bobby, and I'm like, no. And then he presented Billy, and we just kind of thought about it over a couple months, and I would say the one like, obviously she's named after my dad, and I love my dad very much. I love both my parents. And we thought that that would be really special. And we loved the name Billy. We thought it was really cute. And one day, we were still, like, kind of trying to decide, and we. I was in our red light bed at the house. I always listen to music in there. And one thing, that one song that came on was I'll be seeing you by Billie Holiday. And I just started crying. And for some reason in that moment, I just was like, oh, it has to be Billy. I don't know why. I. It wasn't necessarily this. I guess it's just like the phrase I'll be seeing you. And I was so stressed about. I don't want to cry. You have to stop, because I don't

[C]

know if you want me to, savior or not. I'll just let you get. Get your composure.

[A]

I was just so stressed about her being okay. And so when I just, like, heard I'll be seeing you, I. I don't know, I just, like, I felt like it was God pressing play on this specific song with this woman named Billy singing this. These lines that, like, I'll be seeing you, essentially just giving me peace, like, it will. It will all be fine. And in that moment, I knew we should name her Millie. Sorry. And then the name Celine, I love. There was a woman that we met in Paris one time working at a store, and her name was Celine, and I thought it was so pretty, so. And I love the combination of Billy, Celine, and it being, like, a little sporty and a little feminine. I thought that was really cute.

[C]

So get a few more here.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I can't answer this one. Only you can. How's Caitlin doing postpartum?

[A]

As I've been crying for the whole

[C]

podcast, I don't feel like that's fully postpartum. I think that's just, like, good emotion. Yeah.

[A]

How am I doing postpartum? I am doing well. It is crazy, as Bobby mentioned earlier, what your body goes through and honestly, what your mind goes through and how your brain is just totally rewired after you give birth to, like, protect this child and.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So how am I doing? Good. All things considered. I think I'M doing great. I love Billy very much. I still love my husband very much, which is nice. And I'm slowly starting to be more active. So my physical recovery is getting better and my emotional recovery, my hormonal recovery. I'm not even giving it a grade yet because I'm too early in the process to like, judge myself. Either way, I'm just taking it a day at a time, feeling my feelings still, you know, going to therapy, talking through all of these things and kind of learning how to be a mom. But I'm doing well. I'm sorry if my answers are so scattered.

[C]

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[C]

And we're back on the Bobby cast. A couple more. Who have you guys let meet the baby and why? Well, our pediatrician put the fear of God in us and I think pediatrician does that to everybody purposefully.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And she was like, hey, the baby doesn't have the shots yet. The two month.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And I wouldn't let everybody be around her. Let your close circle and make sure they're not sick and make sure they wash their hands. But let's not do a parade.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then she kind of gave us the worst case scenario of what could happen. And so we have been. We've not marched her around town.

[A]

No, we haven't.

[C]

Eddie and his wife have been over a couple times. A few times. Amy obviously Yep. Mike D. Mike D. Who else? Your parents.

[A]

Morgan Massengill.

[C]

Yeah. Morgan number one.

[A]

Keaton. I mean, our friends. I don't know if people know our friends. I don't need to, like, name them all, but, like, Tom.

[C]

Tom Lord, manager.

[A]

Yeah. Josie.

[C]

Yeah. Dr. Josie, who's about to have a baby herself.

[A]

Yeah. I'm so excited for her.

[C]

Yeah. I think that's.

[A]

I mean, a lot more people than

[C]

that, but, yeah, not a lot. We probably have to think hard. I can think of Erica.

[A]

Erica, Caitlin, Caitlyn.

[C]

Recently. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, our. Our first round circle.

[A]

Yes, definitely. Like, people that were. That are very much in our daily lives and. Or throughout the pregnancy journey with us, too.

[C]

I won't say her name for privacy reasons, but like, my business manager now. Our business manager, but she's been mine for a decade.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And we love. We're very close to her, and so she was over Stephanie, Tom's wife's wife. Well, when we're outside their house doing a walk. Well, but yeah, they came over too.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, we're very close with them.

[C]

Yeah. No, I'm saying not only do we go by their house and they come out, but they came over to the house too. Tom came, like, the day you came home. We didn't even really have the fear to put in us yet. And our friend, my manager, Tom Lord, was like, yep. Hey, I'm taking a shower. I'll be right over. And I didn't realize that he was, like, saying he was gonna get cleaned up for the baby. I thought he was just, like, taking a shower for the day. But no, he gets. Comes over, totally. He's like, all right, I'm all clean. Let me have. Let me. Let me see her. It was literally like the day we got home.

[A]

But we love Tom, and honestly, I feel like in that moment, we needed that because my par had just left, and we, like, we needed to share her with someone. It just felt like someone needs to come and look at this baby and tell us how great she is.

[C]

Josie, you know, getting closer. And so I think Josie getting.

[A]

Oh, to giving birth.

[C]

Yeah. Dr. Josie. To giving birth. And I think it's hopefully been a resource for her that you just had a baby.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I think there is a difference in advice people give you that have had kids, and I think there is some prominence in advice that people can give you if they've just experienced it. Anything.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like, what. I don't want to speak for Josie. I'll just speak for what it would be, what would have been helpful for me is if I had a friend that had just gone through it and I could just go over to their house and observe. And Josie's done that a few times, you know, just because people can send you links and this is what you need to buy, and this is what you need to do. But when you're that far along in your pregnancy and you're just tired and you don't want to think through all these things, I imagine it's kind of nice to come over and see how we've organized our bottles and, like, how you're feeding the baby and what do you. What burp cloths are you using and when do you burp and, like, all these things that are just. Of course you can figure it out, but it's almost a cheat sheet to be able to go over and just observe your friend doing it and be like, okay, I can do that. It's not hard.

[C]

Another one. I'll just have two more here. Another one is people asking about the cruise. If we thought you would go into labor while I was on the cruise.

[A]

There was a chance.

[C]

There was a chance. That's why I had to leave the cruise early. Like, we were so nerd, because Caitlin was so close that we went to the doctor. The day I left, not only was

[A]

I so close, but my pregnancy was high risk. So there were just a lot of factors that came into play towards the end and a lot of, like, stress and worrying and, I mean, at that point, it was like, she's totally fine. And we knew that. But if. Well, I'll. I'll rephrase that. Towards the end, it was, you're far enough along that if anything happened now we can get her out.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

And so with going and getting ultrasounds three times a week, whenever, you know, especially, you know, the week you were gone, it's like, well, they could see something at any moment, and I. If they see something, I gotta go to the hospital and we have to get this baby out. So that was stressful. But we did see the doctor the day. Hours before you left.

[C]

I wasn't gonna leave to get the

[A]

final, like, okay, he's fine to be gone for this amount of time, we think, hopefully fingers crossed. And we did. We went and we. The doctor said, you're. You're good for right now. We're all good, so you can go. And so then you left and my parents were here, right?

[C]

Yeah. Just in case.

[A]

My parents were here with me just in case anything happened. So that was nice. But, yeah, it was very.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Scary. And some people sent me some mean messages about you, about the cruise or whatever. And. And I just want to say to those people. I'm not going to say what I want to say to those people, but I will say sometimes there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than, you know, like, maybe someone's wife has a high risk pregnancy and she's.

[C]

And she's also nine months pregnant.

[A]

Also nine months pregnant could give birth at any moment. It's very scary situation. So maybe just understand. Just be more understanding. Let's just give more people the benefit of the doubt.

[C]

Our doctor. You're a doctor. But she said she's so close. I can write you a note.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That would clear you from having to go.

[A]

And obviously, whenever you signed on for this cruise. I wasn't pregnant.

[C]

Nope. It was months before you got pregnant.

[A]

And we weren't. I'm. It's not like we were family planning around a cruise. Like, we weren't thinking. We weren't thinking about it. We weren't like, oh, wait, better not try this time, because that would be this. No, we're just living life.

[C]

We were living life. And that was stressful for me a bit because I get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I totally get it. I didn't want to have to leave, though, for the two days I was gone.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But I had made a commitment, and although I couldn't be there for all the four of the days, I still had to go. But the doctor was like, you can't be out of the water and not have a way to get back home in case something goes wrong for two days at a time.

[A]

Yeah. That was wild. I just remember being so happy when you got home. Just like such.

[C]

Because that was the last thing.

[A]

Relief. Yeah. There were a couple things in a row that. Like the Super Bowl. Something else, though. No, it was a Super bowl and something else.

[C]

The super bowl, which was a couple or a few weeks before that. Yeah, probably something else. But that was the big one because it was right around the time and

[A]

not even that it was.

[C]

You could have also gone to labor before the cruise, and I couldn't have gone at all.

[A]

Right. But not only that, it was like you couldn't get back.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That was the problem.

[C]

There's no helicopter coming off the boat because we ask, like, if she goes into labor and I'm out in the middle of the ocean, is there a helicopter that can take me home? I'll pay for it. And they were like, we don't know, right?

[A]

It was like the super bowl was different. You could get home if you needed to. In the middle of the sea. You're at sea. Oh. I just remember having so many conversations with my friends. Like, they were. They were stressed. I think I couldn't let myself get that worked up about it. But some of our friends were just like, what?

[C]

No, I know.

[A]

How does this work out? How does this timing work out? It was wild.

[C]

It was wild. Any advice for anyone that's about to have baby? The first baby.

[A]

Oh. I mean, I already kind of said this, but you're about to have the best day of your life. And I know it's hard, and I know it sucks, but you are about to have the best day of your life. So try to remember that. People told me that whenever I was pregnant, and I didn't really think it would be the best day of my life because giving the. The birthing process is so intense and it can be so scary, but it is the best day of your life. So I would say know that. Any advice? Be gentle with yourself. Make sure that your partner, your parents, whoever it is that is going to help you, make sure you let them help you. Because you're going through something major. C section, major vaginal birth, major. Like, whatever it is, it's intense. It's really hard on your body. Give yourself grace. Know you're a great mom if you're asking for advice. I already think you are a great mom because you care enough to ask advice. And so just accept help. Go easy on yourself. I would say maybe read a little bit about what happens to the brain whenever you give birth, because that will help you know that you're not crazy, that there's a lot going on biologically in your body. But I don't really have advice other than that I'm not far enough or removed to be reflective enough to think that I've done anything great that I want to share with the world. Just be easy with yourself. Accept help, Period.

[C]

All right, only 10 episodes left.

[A]

I feel like it's nine. Didn't I promise 11?

[C]

12.

[A]

I did.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

I've only done one other than this.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

Are you sure?

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Oh, I did the one when I was pregnant.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And then this one.

[C]

Yep. Only 10 episodes.

[A]

If I answer two more questions, does that chip away?

[C]

No, it doesn't, but I'll take off three at a time. If you ever do it on video,

[A]

we're never over there. How am I going to go over there?

[C]

Well, you have to. I Mean, it's a whole process.

[A]

Anyone can take Billy.

[C]

Well, it's a whole process. I get it.

[A]

But I'm just saying this is so much easier.

[C]

Yeah. We just walk down and record.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Walk out of the studio.

[C]

There's nobody here except you and I. We just go down here and record it. Yeah.

[A]

You'll knock how many off if I do video three. Oh, okay. I mean, I just don't see how we swing that right now, but.

[C]

Okay. It's an open offer.

[A]

A couple months older.

[C]

It's an open offer.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right. Thank you everybody, for all the questions.

[A]

Thanks, everybody.

[C]

Like, everybody, it's Bobby and Caitlin Show. The Caitlin and Bobby show.

[A]

Hey, that reminds me of the song I sing to Billy.

[C]

Yeah, I don't like that song because I'm not in it and now I

[A]

can't think of the. The melody.

[C]

Well, I was singing a melody that ruined it for you.

[A]

Yeah, you were.

[C]

Billy and Her Mom.

[A]

No, no, no, no, because you sing Billy and Her Mom. You sing that one.

[C]

No, I sing Billy and Her dad.

[A]

You sing Billy and Her Mom. Billy.

[C]

You do. It's the Billy and.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Too many. Too many melodies in our heads.

[A]

It's mom and Billy Billy and Mom. It's the mom and Billy Billy and Mom and Billy Billy and Mom. It's the mom and Billy Show.

[C]

Yeah, you gotta do it without me talking over you, though.

[A]

Great.

[C]

Again.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And 1, 2, 3, 4.

[A]

Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom, mom and Billy Billy and Mom. Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom. It's the mom and Billy show.

[C]

I walk in and they're doing a show. They're already doing a show. All right, bye, everybody. Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production.

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