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BOBBYCAST - Bobby and Eddie on Musicians Who Died Tragically Including A Plane That Hit Ozzy's Tour Bus!
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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
Welcome to episode 551. This is about musicians who died tragically. And I think we were just going to do this as a segment and Eddie and I were talking about it and it ended up being like super interesting. And yeah, it's tragedy, but man, there's one of these that we talk about that because we recorded this like a week ago and we really had no plan to release it on Halloween, which is kind of what happened. But Eddie and I have talked about it basically every single day since we did this. You know, I'm talking about. Which one?
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Assistant/Researcher
Yeah, we went on a deep dive after this.
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Bobby Bones
Crazy. I know. So remembering those whose lives ended in tragic accidents, sometimes just straight up murder. Buddy Holly, Patsy Cline, Aaliyah. Artists who left us too early but can live on forever in their music.
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Mike
Here we go.
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Bobby Bones
Episode 551, musicians who died tragically. We're going to talk about musicians that died tragically. Now this is one of those where I have the entire list that I made and you have nothing.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Nor did you know what we're going to talk about.
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Mike
No clue.
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Bobby Bones
So what comes to mind? Musicians who died tragically.
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Mike
Richie Valance.
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Bobby Bones
Okay, Buddy Holly, tell me that story, man.
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Mike
They played the Surf Ballroom in Iowa. They. They were riding a bus, but the bus had broken down, so the air, the heater wasn't working in the bus. So Buddy Holly was like, you know what? I'm going to charter a plane. And three of us can. Or four of us can fit in there. And so it was Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, Richie Valens. I don't know who the fourth guy was, but I know it was between him and, and Waylon Jennings. And so Waylon Jennings and that guy had to flip a coin to see who was going to ride the plane. And Waylon Jennings lost the. The coin flip.
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Bobby Bones
But one because he lived.
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Mike
But one. Yeah. One because he freaking lived. They all died in a plane crash.
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Bobby Bones
So Buddy Holly, Richie Valance, Big Bopper all make the list. So the rock and roll pioneer will do Buddy Hollywood with songs like Peggy sue and that'll Be the day. He's only 22 when he died.
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Mike
Yeah, they were all really young.
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Bobby Bones
In 1959, Clear Lake, Iowa. It was a plane crash that also killed Richie Valens and the Big Bopper. The event is known as the day the music died. And that's. That's exactly what happened. I think now, because listen, we fly private a good amount. I'm not getting on a four person plane.
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Mike
No.
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Bobby Bones
Now with technology and planes even better than they are now, they have small planes like that. No. And that's just for safety. I'm scared to death of that.
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Mike
And not to say the big planes don't crash and all other kinds of planes don't crash, but it seems like the smaller ones crash a lot more.
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Bobby Bones
Crazy to think, man. So.
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Mike
And it was snowing. I think that that day, that night or whatever.
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Bobby Bones
So at least in the movie they were breathing. You can see ice coming out. I know that's.
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Mike
You're right. In the movie it was. Not sure about real life, but they crashed, I mean, immediately after they took off. So they didn't even get very far.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, I didn't know that. So on the ascent they crashed.
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Mike
Yeah, yeah. As soon as they took off.
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Bobby Bones
Was it crash. Was it a. An issue with the plane and the, the weather?
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Assistant/Researcher
Yeah. Snowstorm they say the poor vision.
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Bobby Bones
So not like a de icing thing. The pilot couldn't see. Oh, dang. Okay, so there's two, there's three. So Big Bopper, Buddy Holly, Richie Valance.
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Mike
Almost. Waylon Jennings.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Name another one.
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Mike
Stevie Ray Vaughan.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Helicopter crash, right?
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Mike
Yes. At. I think he was playing in Wisconsin.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, he was. 1990.
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Mike
Alpine Valley. Is that. What is it?
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Bobby Bones
The blues rock guitar legend was killed in 1990 in a helicopter crash in Wisconsin. And after performing with Eric Clapton.
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Mike
Really?
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Bobby Bones
He was 35, height of his career. The helicopter crashed due to pilot error. Specifically controlled flight into the terrain during a night flight. It was foggy and hazy. The pilot failed to gain sufficient altitude to clear rising terrain.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So what I hear is there's mountains or there's something and they. He didn't get up high enough and hit him.
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Mike
Yeah, there's hills out there. Pretty big hills.
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Bobby Bones
The helicopter was not equipped for the. The instrument flight. I don't know what that means, but yeah. Stevie Ray Von. Okay.
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Mike
What year was that? Do you have a year on that?
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Bobby Bones
90.
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Mike
Wow.
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Bobby Bones
1990.
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Mike
I feel like I didn't really even know Steve Ray Von was until after all that.
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Bobby Bones
I did not. I think I started to know who Stevie Ray Von was once I started to see the old Austin City Limits clips. I think that was my introduction. Stevie Ray Von is playing on that show on pbs.
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Mike
How awesome was he? Dude.
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Bobby Bones
And I didn't even respect it until I started to learn about the guitar. And really the things I. I remember watching a clip of him. This is after I did have a respect for him. And I wasn't from Texas. So he also wasn't like one of my guys. But to watch him change a string out while playing.
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Mike
Oh yeah.
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Bobby Bones
He was the first person I ever. I saw do that. He break a string and then he would string the whole thing electric while playing.
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Mike
He would just rip it out and then put a new one on it while he was playing.
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Bobby Bones
That was crazy.
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Mike
Yeah. And what I was so cool about his style was that he could mimic what he was singing with his guitar while he was playing. That to me was so cool when he would be singing something and make the guitar sound exactly like I was singing.
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Bobby Bones
I have a theory. My theory is because Stevie Ray Vaughan found his thing. Like he obviously worked tirelessly to get better at it. But some of that is intrinsically a part of him. Like to be able to mimic, to be able to have. There was a God given ability that walked alongside his extremely hard work ethic. For sure. I think we probably all have that in some capacity with something we Just haven't found it. I know most people, it could even be like, I might be the greatest tiddlywinks player. Yes. In the history of freaking tiddlywinks.
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Mike
Yes.
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Bobby Bones
But I don't play tiddlywinks. So whatever that innate ability is that I have at tiddlywinks, I'm bouncing that ball at the exact time and scooping up the right amount. I. Since I haven't been exposed to what I'm so good at inside of me, I. I'll never know. My theory is we all have that. And it doesn't have to be an athletic ability. It could be. It could be surgery, it could be juggling, it could be looking and knowing what pl. Like, it could be nutrition. But unless we are actually exposed to it, find a love for it, we never actually know what we would be the greatest at.
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Mike
Dude, I'm telling you, having four boys in my life, four kids, I know exactly what each of them are really good at and what they're really bad at, you know, and. And they've been like that since they were little babies. Like, I know that my youngest, he is going to do something with his hands. He's going to build something. Like that's what he is meant to do. He's not a counter, he's not a creative. He's good athletically. Like, he's. That comes natural to him, but he just loves building things like Legos. He can build them, dude, without the instructions.
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Bobby Bones
But what if he came to you and said, I want to do theater?
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Mike
I'd say give it a shot, do whatever you want, work at it. But I already know what you're really good at.
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Bobby Bones
And so let's just say Lego specifically. He's the greatest LEGO builder of all time, but he doesn't pursue building Legos. Yeah, I mean, I think we all have that in us. We just. And sometimes we can even know and are actually really good at something, but we don't like to do it. So I think it's that perfect mixture of you have this ability, you have a love for it that you would have regardless of the ability, and then a tireless work ethic to get better. Because I think a lot of people get good at something and they're fine just being good at it. Not great. Because there is a different level of commitment to it.
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Mike
You being a personality. You don't think that's it?
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Bobby Bones
No.
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Mike
But you're damn good at it.
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Bobby Bones
I would say one of the best, like, ever.
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Mike
Absolutely. I wouldn't argue that Just at just.
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Bobby Bones
Data speaking with, like, what I've been able to build, even the money that I've made. Yes.
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Mike
And what about, like, how easy it is for you to do it?
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Bobby Bones
I don't think it's that easy.
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Mike
Is the thing interesting you make it look like it's easy?
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Bobby Bones
I think. I think I'm really good at it. And I think there are certain aspects that probably come to me easier than I even realize are harder for some people. Yes. And that's probably tough to distinguish for folks, too, that can run fast, catch a ball. You don't realize that it is so much easier to you because you don't know the difference in other people trying to do it. So that could be a factor too.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
But even with playing the guitar, and what made me think of that is that you said how Stevie Ray Vaughan could mimic that with everything else he was doing, even him singing, that he probably worked really hard to get good at that. But who knows how easy it actually was from the start for him to have the ability even know he could do that. Yeah, it's just we can't get in each other's heads, man. If we could, that'd be awesome.
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Mike
Oh, no, it'd be dangerous. You imagine knowing what, like, everything about someone just by looking at them.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
There are probably advanced civilizations that. That's a thing.
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Mike
Like, if my wife knew what I was thinking.
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Bobby Bones
Dude, shared consciousness. I think shared consciousness. No, you wouldn't be in trouble at all because you would understand everybody's consciousness and it would be a lot more common what you're thinking, just not sharing.
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Mike
Good point. Because they'd already know.
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Bobby Bones
And it would be so common with everybody. We just don't talk about it. So we don't know.
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Mike
And then we'd already know what everyone's like. Right? Like, that's Bobby.
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Bobby Bones
Like, immediately you would know. It would save a lot of time in the courting, the dating, and even, like, friendship.
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Mike
Did he mean to say that? Now you. You know that you know the answer to that.
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Bobby Bones
You would not communicate verbally if that were the case. Like, verbal communication would not need to happen if you could share consciousness.
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Mike
That's probably what animals do. Honestly, dude, animals just seem like they got it all together. Right? Like, they come out when it's the temperature's right. They know where to go when the temperature's cold. Like, my brother, he's like. I don't know. He's super sensitive with animals. When it's, like, freezing outside, he sees, like, a goose and he's Like, I got to take the goose in. Like, no, dude, they're good. Like, the goose is good. They know what to do. The deer, Even though it's 12 below, they know what to do. They're going to survive.
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Mike
That, to me, like, is part of what we're talking about. They kind of got it all figured out.
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Bobby Bones
I think there's a lot of natural selection to that too, that the animals that have an understanding live. The ones that don't die, even within a same type of animal.
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Mike
There are dumb animals.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. But they die. And so the animals that have that. We'll just call it dumbness in them, that they would pass down genetically. They don't live because they're dumb. So it doesn't get passed down anymore. So only the smarter ones survive. That's how we're here.
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Mike
That would be me. I'd be the dumb animal.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
Well.
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Mike
I'm done.
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Bobby Bones
Like, we're. It is a miracle that we are standing here today.
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Mike
Go ahead.
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Bobby Bones
Think of the generations 8, 9, 10, 14 generations above us where somebody had to live long enough to even have a child.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Didn't die in a car wreck. Didn't die of what would be like a Sid situation now with kids 400 years ago, who. Whomever we descended from the birth survival rate wasn't what it is now. Everything had to happen so perfectly for generations through one to the next just for us to get here.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And that's not even the first human that could walk upright. We're just talking about.
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Mike
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Like, humans almost didn't survive. If the first human didn't stand up on two feet and could see farther, they. They were being attacked more frequently because they couldn't see their attacker.
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Mike
This is the caveman on all fours.
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Bobby Bones
This is the all fours. And the first human, they could stand up on two. When you stand up taller, you can see farther. You could see your predators from farther, which would give you a chance to live longer.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Think about those people that can't. Like, at some point, one of those was us. Like, we descended from them.
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Mike
Sure.
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Bobby Bones
Specifically that person because they had to have somebody have sex. Like, we got lucky that our people were the ones that stood up on two feet.
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Mike
Yeah. Because the ones that didn't, they're done.
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Bobby Bones
They got killed by animals who could get a lot closer to them before they could run off.
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Mike
Yeah. And that DNA is done.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. So anyway, rock and roll people died a lot.
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Mike
Yeah. What about real quick before we move on? What about, like, the ones that tried the first Berries, like, how did they decide, like, all right, Jimmy, you're kind of a dumb dude. Try the berry first. If you live, we'll eat it.
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Bobby Bones
My theory is this. Two things. One, you learn simply through eating bad berries when people would die, don't eat those anymore. A few people eating the green berry. We've seen three people eat the green berry and they died.
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Mike
Don't eat the greenberry.
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Bobby Bones
So don't eat the greenberry. I think that's the simplest explanation is one part of it.
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Mike
Sure.
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Bobby Bones
The other is I think the people lived that could eat the greenberry. Therefore, genetically, they passed down other people that could eat the green berry. Ah. Which allowed the green berry to be eaten.
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Mike
Like they had something in their body that could tolerate the green berry.
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Bobby Bones
Yes. And so that lived through while the people that didn't have that didn't. And it didn't have to be a green berry. It could be anything.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So the weaker always ends up dying. The stronger ends up living. And as the stronger lives and reproduces, it reproduces other strong. This is.
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Mike
Dude, this is some deep stuff.
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Assistant/Researcher
I see. In addition to that, they would also watch animals and see if the animal ate the berry. If the animal died, they would not eat that berry.
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Bobby Bones
Dude, that's like Hitler stuff where he'd have somebody, like, test his food out for him before he would eat it.
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Assistant/Researcher
Hey, dear, come over here.
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Bobby Bones
Try these berries.
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Mike
You want a berry?
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Bobby Bones
Try the green one. But yeah, it's. It is very fortunate that we are even here today. It is a classic. Classic lock. I'm not a big luck guy, but I have no control over things that happen for 50 generations ahead of me. We are very lucky to even exist because so many things had to not go tragically wrong for every single level of person we descended from.
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Mike
Pretty amazing.
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Bobby Bones
It's crazy when you think about it like that.
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Mike
Mathematically, you think about this all the time.
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Bobby Bones
All the time. I didn't prepare that answer.
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Mike
No, I didn't think so.
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Bobby Bones
I didn't. We were just going to talk about dead people.
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Mike
The way it just rolled off your tongue. I didn't think you just came up with that.
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Assistant/Researcher
Wait to talk about this.
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Bobby Bones
I also don't know that I'm right.
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Mike
No, but it's a good conversation. And it's funny. Like, I've never ever thought about that. Like, I've never thought about. I thought we all survived, you know, I didn't think about the ones that, you know, couldn't handle those. Those whatever environments or those weather conditions.
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Bobby Bones
Viruses, different types of Food.
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Mike
We are survivors.
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Bobby Bones
Well, our descendants. Yeah. Had to survive for us to get here.
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Mike
It's amazing.
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Bobby Bones
But survive. Or our descendants thrived where other people had to either survive or die.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Because genetically some people are just stronger than others and. Or parts of them tolerate other things better than others.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
But anyway, that goes to my whole theory that could be absolutely inaccurate, that we have something inside of us that we are so naturally great at. And I think a lot of my resentment from growing up in a school that didn't have many sports comes from going, man, I wonder what I would have been good at. Because we had football and basketball, we had baseball, but we had to play at a different school's field. Our baseball program really didn't get started till I was in, like, 9th or 10th grade. That's all we had. There was nothing else.
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Mike
You think that could have been it?
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Bobby Bones
No, but it had been cool to have. Like, when I think of, like, rich kid sports, I think like, lacrosse.
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Mike
Oh, yeah, right.
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Bobby Bones
Swimming.
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Mike
Yeah. What if you were good at all that?
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Bobby Bones
What if I was pretty good at any of that? Like, look at Michael Phelps's body. Obviously he is a different kind of animal because he is extremely athletic. No doubt about it. But he is built. His torso is so extremely long. That's not the torso of a tight end.
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Mike
Right.
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Bobby Bones
That's the torso of a swimmer. And if swimming is not available, then you probably are just a guy with a long torso who's accounting, you know? But I used to think about that, like, man, if I went to a school with more resources, I wonder if I would have been good at something else. Not even just sports related, even, you know, academically.
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Mike
I think it's so cool, too, when people find out what they're good at, you know, like. Like even my oldest son, like, he. He's. He found out that he's a good writer.
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Bobby Bones
He didn't.
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Mike
He never wasn't a writer. Like, he just didn't. Didn't think that was his thing. But then, you know, one day he's like, let me just try writing. And then he ends up loving it. He's good at it. And that's. That clicks as something really good. Like, you're talking about Steve Ray Vaughan. Like, can you imagine? Just like, you know what I'm pretty good at? Guitar. Like, a lot of people pick up the guitar and they're not that good at it.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. I would say most people pick up a guitar and it's awful.
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Mike
Yeah. So you just quit on it.
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Bobby Bones
It hurts. It is not easy Piano. And I tried to learn piano as an adult. Really difficult.
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Mike
It's frustrating when you're not good at.
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Bobby Bones
It, as is anything. I think I like it when people find something they love because I think you can get pretty good at anything with enough work and passion for it. And if. When that love comes to natural ability and. And those three things, that's like the. The holy trinity of success is the thing that you love. Doing it, like, that's the most important part. Working hard, and then you happen to be naturally gifted at it.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
All three of those come together.
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Mike
You win.
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Bobby Bones
Wow. And that, you know, that's pro. That. That's these people that transcend with whatever skill. It could be sports, could be music, could be acting, could be science. You know, different thinkers.
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Mike
What's cool about the list, you know, of these artists that died tragically? You wonder, too, like, where they would be in their musical careers. Would they even still be playing? You know, would they or would they still be awesome?
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Bobby Bones
I think there's enough of. I think there's enough of the Paul McCartney's Elton Johns that lived. They kind of show us what the greats end up doing when they get older. They just stay great for that period that they were exceptional and live off of that. Because I don't think because trends, technology, sonic changes in music, I think all that shifts so much. It's hard to stay extremely creatively relevant. But it is not hard to stay awesome if you were awesome at one point. So I think if Buddy Holly had lived, Richie Valens had lived, we could go through this list. Stevie Ray Vaughan had lived. I think they would be so respected and they would be still awesome. But it wouldn't be because of the stuff they're doing today, because there are young people now doing today what they were doing when they were young. There's rarely an old person that's still doing awesome stuff. Can you think of an old person that was awesome way back in the day that's still doing amazing things musically because music changes so much? I think acting's different because there are old people who actually get better as actors. Because you can be an old person in a movie.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Assistant/Researcher
Like, Harrison Ford's still good.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And. And we could list, like, five of them. What's going. Bette Midler. She's still alive.
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Assistant/Researcher
She's still alive.
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Mike
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's still alive.
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Bobby Bones
She pretty good.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And the actress, Martin Short's girlfriend. Oh, she's like the most famous actor. Meryl Streep. Thank you. Like, excellent. But I think acting's a little different than music because music is always young. Young to start.
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Mike
I mean, Paul McCartney still, but he puts something out.
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Bobby Bones
Nobody cares.
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Mike
No, but when he did that thing with Rihanna and Kanye, that was cool.
- [21:13]
Bobby Bones
One song wasn't even a hit. It was cool for a minute.
- [21:15]
Mike
It wasn't a hit. Oh, that was a jam, dude.
- [21:18]
Bobby Bones
But that's my point. Yeah, they're still amazing for the their relevant era. I think that's probably what would happen with these people.
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Mike
Even like the Eagles, they're not really coming up with anything new.
- [21:30]
Bobby Bones
They were amazing.
- [21:31]
Mike
Yeah.
- [21:32]
Bobby Bones
And they were amazing. And they still are amazing. But it's not because of the amazing new material they're creating. I think that's my answer is. I think it'd be the same here. Although Snoop Dogg still is pretty good. He's old.
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Mike
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Bobby Bones
And we're back on the Bobbycast. Who else comes to mind?
- [24:06]
Mike
Patsy Cline.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Virginia Patterson Hensley, the country icon known for Crazy and I Go Walking After Midnight, died in a 1963 plane crash near Camden, Tennessee while returning home from a benefit concert. She was just 30 years old. She was killed along with pilot Randy Hughes and fellow country stars Cowboy Copus and Hawkshaw Herkins. Hawkins. Hawkshaw Hawkins. I can't say I know much Hawkshaw Hawkins, but I'd like to apologize for messing up his name.
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Mike
Yeah, one of those guys, they found his boot.
- [24:39]
Bobby Bones
Really?
- [24:40]
Mike
It's just one of those tick tocks that pops up, you know, like of just music history. There was a movie I saw recently on, on this because I didn't know much about Patsy Klein, but yeah, another small plane, dude. One of those four passengers.
- [24:55]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Anybody? I have a lot. I'm not gonna sit here and.
- [24:58]
Mike
Let me think, let me think. Hold on.
- [24:59]
Bobby Bones
I just want to know until you tap out.
- [25:01]
Mike
Jim Croce.
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Bobby Bones
Yep. The thing about Jim Croce, to me, it's very Golden Girls esque. And I think, let's look up the age of Jim Croce when he died. But I see the Golden Girls and when I was a kid, the Golden Girls, they were like 800 years old. And now you look back and you were like, oh, they were like 53.
- [25:22]
Mike
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [25:24]
Bobby Bones
Jim Croce always looked like he was 70, super old.
- [25:28]
Mike
And it's not like he had gray hair or anything. He just looked old.
- [25:31]
Bobby Bones
How old was he when he died?
- [25:32]
Assistant/Researcher
He was 30 years old when he died.
- [25:34]
Mike
That's crazy, dude.
- [25:35]
Bobby Bones
He, he's a golden girl to me. Like, he, again, he died before we were born because he died in 1973, but he looked so old. And I thought, oh, Jim Croce, wow. Had probably had a great career. Died probably like in his 60s. Never got there.
- [25:51]
Mike
When you, when you found, you know, heard about Jim Croce, did you know he was dead?
- [25:56]
Bobby Bones
Yes.
- [25:56]
Mike
See, I didn't. I found out maybe five years ago. I was just like going through. I don't know, you know, you have those playlists that you just listen to. And like, it was like. I think it was acoustic. Acoustic music or whatever. And he pops up and it was Operator. And I'm like, God, this is a jam. And then I started.
- [26:11]
Bobby Bones
Dang, that was a jam.
- [26:12]
Mike
I went through all of these Jim Croce songs of like, you know, Time in a Bottle. Or is it time in a Bottle?
- [26:17]
Bobby Bones
I'm in a bottle. Yep.
- [26:18]
Mike
Bad Leroy Brown.
- [26:20]
Bobby Bones
Bad Bad Leroy Brown.
- [26:21]
Mike
All these, dude. And then I'm like, let me read about this guy. And like, oh, he's dead. And then you, like, plane crash. Oh, my gosh.
- [26:29]
Bobby Bones
So far, we're all plane crashes, by the way.
- [26:30]
Mike
Yes. Yeah. Well, that's what.
- [26:32]
Bobby Bones
When you get rich and musical, you start traveling around and you're in these little planes. But yeah. The singer, songwriter behind songs like Time in a Bottle was killed in a 1973 plane crash in Louisiana just as his career was taken off. The crash killed six people, including Croce, his guitarist, and the pilot. The probable cause was the pilot's failure to see obstructions due to physical impairment and in fog. But, yeah, I had a Jim Croce phase, like a six month phase where that was probably the artist I listened to most.
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Mike
Well, how long ago was that? Like, when you were younger?
- [27:06]
Bobby Bones
My 20s.
- [27:07]
Mike
Okay, gotcha.
- [27:07]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like, I loved. And then bad, Bad Leroy Brown. Baddest man in the whole dam town. Better than old King Kong. He was a meaner than a junkyard dog.
- [27:21]
Mike
Like, was that because your grandma.
- [27:23]
Bobby Bones
My mom.
- [27:24]
Mike
Your mom, yeah. Listen to that a lot.
- [27:27]
Bobby Bones
And so I liked his b. I'm a big ballad guy, but for me.
- [27:33]
Mike
It wasn't even the guitar playing for me was awesome.
- [27:36]
Bobby Bones
Like, I. I like. You don't tug on Superman's cape. You don't spit in the wind. You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger. And you don't mess around with Jim. Booby dooba doo doo doo doo doo. Those are my. James.
- [27:52]
Mike
Yeah. Yeah.
- [27:52]
Bobby Bones
That was good. Okay, so far.
- [27:55]
Mike
Okay.
- [27:56]
Bobby Bones
You have five of them.
- [27:56]
Mike
All plane crashes.
- [27:58]
Bobby Bones
They're not all I'm saying so far.
- [27:59]
Mike
I know. So I'm gonna get away from plane crashes. Is.
- [28:01]
Bobby Bones
You shouldn't.
- [28:02]
Mike
But I shouldn't.
- [28:04]
Bobby Bones
There's definitely more plane crashes.
- [28:05]
Mike
I mean, is Leonard Skynyrd.
- [28:06]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Ronnie Van Sant, Steve Gaines and Cassie Gaines, three members of the Southern Rock Band died in 1977. Plane crash in Mississippi, going to a show.
- [28:15]
Mike
They ran out of fuel, which is crazy.
- [28:18]
Bobby Bones
In Crash in the woods. They ran out of freaking.
- [28:20]
Mike
They ran out of fuel and they had to land in like a forest.
- [28:23]
Bobby Bones
Or whatever, but they ran out of gas. Insane. Yep. Yeah. Near. Somewhere in Mississippi. I don't know anything about planes, but it says the Convier CV240 passenger aircraft. So my thing is, I don't know how big of a plane that is, but I can't believe they ran out of gas. The only reason that I could see running out of gas is that you come across a storm and like, well, we have to go around it and you. And. But then you land somewhere else.
- [28:55]
Mike
Sure.
- [28:55]
Bobby Bones
Short.
- [28:55]
Mike
Yeah.
- [28:56]
Bobby Bones
Or the gauge.
- [28:59]
Mike
Gauge is off.
- [29:00]
Bobby Bones
About the gauge being. But yeah, I didn't think about the gauge being off.
- [29:03]
Mike
You know, the gauge isn't where we put all our trust on the gauge. If that's not working, then.
- [29:07]
Bobby Bones
And I've had cars where the gauge didn't work for sure, where you're just always trying to remember how full it is.
- [29:11]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah, it was a pretty big plane. It was a 40 passenger plane.
- [29:14]
Bobby Bones
40.
- [29:15]
Assistant/Researcher
40.
- [29:16]
Mike
Yeah. I remember it was so big.
- [29:17]
Bobby Bones
That's a big plane.
- [29:19]
Mike
I remember it was so big that one of the survivors was talking about how. Who, who was the. The main guy? Ronnie.
- [29:24]
Bobby Bones
Ronnie Van Zant.
- [29:25]
Mike
Ronnie was. Was laying in the aisle on the ground because he was exhausted. He took a nap and he just like put his hat over his head and was sleeping in. In the aisle.
- [29:34]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [29:34]
Assistant/Researcher
20 others survived.
- [29:36]
Bobby Bones
I can't believe they ran out of gas because again, the things I would think of would be you're flying around because of a storm, but at some point it gets so low you've got to find an airport to land, to refuel. Unless the gas gauge is broken. You're right. Or no, I don't, I don't. I don't know what else?
- [29:55]
Mike
No, I don't know, Mike. You may be reading about it, but like, I feel like they were circling. I read about this maybe three years ago where, like I went deep dive, but I don't remember.
- [30:04]
Bobby Bones
Like what, like you get to an airport and you circle because there's issues with the airport. But then you know what you do after a minute, you. You go to another close airport. There's always a close, even small air around. I don't know the whole story to.
- [30:14]
Assistant/Researcher
This, but the crew didn't monitor the fuel supply. And then there was an engine issue causing them to lose more fuel. Oh, so they were losing it.
- [30:23]
Bobby Bones
Inadvertently dumping fuel.
- [30:25]
Mike
Dang.
- [30:26]
Bobby Bones
Wow. But people survive that plane, huh? That plane crash?
- [30:29]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah. 20 people.
- [30:30]
Mike
The 40 is. Is that, like, American Eagle?
- [30:33]
Bobby Bones
My mind is blown. Okay, great question. Yeah, it's kind of a plane that's not like a Southwest, but when you have to do, like, a puddle jumper.
- [30:41]
Mike
Yeah. When you're. You're landing in Wichita, I would say.
- [30:43]
Bobby Bones
It'S similar to that.
- [30:44]
Mike
Yes.
- [30:45]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah.
- [30:45]
Mike
Okay.
- [30:46]
Bobby Bones
Dude, I can't believe they ran out of gas.
- [30:48]
Mike
Yeah.
- [30:48]
Bobby Bones
But it makes sense if an engine was broken, because there. There's always an airport somewhat close, even if it's a small one, to land.
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Bobby Bones
All right, you're up again.
- [31:00]
Mike
Celine on the list.
- [31:02]
Bobby Bones
Celine Dion.
- [31:03]
Mike
Selena.
- [31:04]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, she is, but obviously not a plane crash. Tell that story.
- [31:07]
Mike
Selena, man. She was meeting with her fan club president. Yolanda Saldivar was her name. And she said she had been stealing a bunch of money from the fan club. And so not. I'm not sure if she was meeting to tell Selena that, like, she had stolen the money or Selena was going to confront her about stealing the money, but they met at a hotel in Corpus Christi, and Yolanda shot her.
- [31:35]
Bobby Bones
I know the story through the movie. Again, in Arkansas, we didn't have a relationship with Selena as, like, you from South Texas.
- [31:43]
Mike
Oh, dude.
- [31:43]
Bobby Bones
In Texas, I'm sure it was a massive deal.
- [31:45]
Mike
When she died, it was like, everyone. School's done. Like, everybody go home. Like, Selena died. And everyone's like, selena died. Like, what? Big deal.
- [31:53]
Bobby Bones
The beloved queen of Tejano music was murdered in 1995 by the president of a fan club at age 23. Who. Her death shocked fans worldwide and inspired the film Selena, starring Jennifer Lopez. Selena was shot and killed by her. It says former manager, but also. I know it was her fan club president.
- [32:08]
Mike
Not sure it was a manager.
- [32:09]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I feel like it was a fan club.
- [32:12]
Mike
Maybe at one point, she was kind of a manager, but you're right.
- [32:15]
Bobby Bones
Her Name's Yolanda Saldivar. March 31, 1995, after a confrontation about Saldivar embezzling money from Selena. The shooting occurred at a Day's Inn in Corpus, and. And Selena died from blood loss after being shot in the back.
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Assistant/Researcher
She managed some of her boutiques, like, stores.
- [32:31]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [32:32]
Mike
Oh, because she was. Yeah, yeah. Selena was doing some fashion stuff.
- [32:35]
Bobby Bones
Pardon my ignorance. I know two Selena songs. And that's it.
- [32:38]
Mike
Come on. Are they the Spanish ones? Well, I know you know the English one.
- [32:43]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. If I Fall in Love.
- [32:45]
Mike
What called Because I'm Dreaming.
- [32:47]
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's what it is of you. Tonight and in my. I'll be holding you tight. Yes, I know that one. Am I.
- [32:56]
Assistant/Researcher
Is there another one I could.
- [32:57]
Bobby Bones
That's it. All in love. I know that one.
- [33:00]
Mike
Tonight. Okay, so you know the two English.
- [33:02]
Bobby Bones
Ones, but then I know Titty Bang Bang Bang.
- [33:05]
Mike
No, no, no. Not Titty Bang Bang. No, no, no. Bidi biddy bum bum.
- [33:07]
Bobby Bones
Close, but I've heard that one. Like, I know that. Yeah, I. If I heard it, I would go, I know that's Selena, but I can't sing it back, obviously. I thought the name was Titty Bang.
- [33:17]
Mike
Bang Bitty bitty bum bum.
- [33:19]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I get that one, though. Mixed up a little bit with.
- [33:22]
Mike
Hold on, hold on. She bangs.
- [33:26]
Bobby Bones
Nah. Yeah, but it's. It's a Ricky. It is a Ricky Martin song, but it's not. She bangs. Live, living la vida loca now shake your bomb.
- [33:33]
Assistant/Researcher
Bomb.
- [33:34]
Bobby Bones
Thank you. I knew I was trying to chase. I've already said some stupid stuff, so I didn't want to go even deeper into the stupidity of it. Yes.
- [33:43]
Mike
I saw Selena live when I was probably 11 years old. We were at Fiesta Texas in San Antonio, and we were with another family, and some of the older brothers of the other family were like, hey, Selena's playing. Let's go. I'm like, I don't know who that is, but. Well, let's go.
- [33:59]
Bobby Bones
That's cool, though. You saw Selena, dude.
- [34:00]
Mike
It was so cool. And I'll never forget her butt. Like, not kidding. Like, when even 11 years old, I'm like, wow, she's got. Got a nice butt. Because even in the movie, it was like, we got to. I mean, we got to talk about her butt. It was a big deal.
- [34:14]
Bobby Bones
What were you born, Mike?
- [34:15]
Assistant/Researcher
91.
- [34:16]
Bobby Bones
So you don't remember her death?
- [34:17]
Assistant/Researcher
I do remember. That's how I learned about death.
- [34:19]
Bobby Bones
But you're four.
- [34:20]
Assistant/Researcher
I still remember that day. I remember watching the news, and I remember that day I wore a Selena T shirt.
- [34:26]
Mike
Wow. Don't you remember people talking, Selena died? Like, it was.
- [34:30]
Bobby Bones
He was four.
- [34:31]
Assistant/Researcher
I don't remember that much, but I remember us watching it on the tv, and then I remember us watching, like, a documentary on the news.
- [34:36]
Bobby Bones
Is that one of your first memories?
- [34:38]
Assistant/Researcher
One of my first memories ever is when Selena died, because I loved it.
- [34:41]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Wow.
- [34:42]
Assistant/Researcher
That and Mufasa dying was how I learned about death.
- [34:44]
Bobby Bones
Dang.
- [34:45]
Mike
Spoiler alert.
- [34:46]
Bobby Bones
Mufasa hits hard when you're a kid.
- [34:48]
Assistant/Researcher
Like, why won't he get up?
- [34:52]
Bobby Bones
All right, all right, all right. We got some more.
- [34:54]
Mike
Okay, okay. John Lennon.
- [34:58]
Bobby Bones
I did not put John Lennon on this because he was murdered. But also, I do have other people that were murdered.
- [35:03]
Mike
Selena.
- [35:04]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I don't know why I didn't put John Lennon on this list.
- [35:07]
Mike
You've never liked John Lennon.
- [35:08]
Bobby Bones
It's not that I don't like John Lennon. I do like John Lennon. I'm fine with. How about this? I'm fine with John.
- [35:12]
Mike
He's not your favorite beetle, which is shocking to me.
- [35:14]
Bobby Bones
He's not. He's my third favorite beetle.
- [35:16]
Mike
Oh. That's even more shocking to me.
- [35:17]
Bobby Bones
I know Paul McCarty's my favorite.
- [35:19]
Mike
George.
- [35:20]
Bobby Bones
George Harrison, third or second. Because I feel like they didn't give him the respect he deserved.
- [35:25]
Mike
Correct.
- [35:26]
Bobby Bones
Not even because he was so instrumental in the Beatles. I feel like he could have been, because, man, did he do some great stuff afterward.
- [35:31]
Mike
Yeah. Yeah.
- [35:32]
Bobby Bones
So what about Ringo, though?
- [35:34]
Mike
Has he move up in the ranks since you've hung out with him?
- [35:37]
Bobby Bones
Absolutely. And for.
- [35:38]
Mike
So now John's four.
- [35:39]
Bobby Bones
The main reason. Yeah, you're right. I should have put him on the list. That was an oversight by me. But, yeah. He was murdered by his fan. 1980, maybe. We just talked about it on the show, too. When I made the list. We talked about this. I'll give me another one.
- [35:56]
Mike
Okay.
- [35:57]
Bobby Bones
Let's see.
- [35:57]
Mike
Let's see. I think I'm out, man. You.
- [36:02]
Bobby Bones
All of these will make sense to you, but if you're out, I'm out. I'll then go to the list. You'll know how they. I'll just ask you the person. So if you can identify how they die. They died. Jeff Buckley.
- [36:13]
Mike
Oh, drowned.
- [36:15]
Bobby Bones
And he didn't write it because Leonard Cohen did.
- [36:19]
Mike
Hallelujah.
- [36:20]
Bobby Bones
Hallelujah. But he made it famous.
- [36:22]
Mike
Yeah, man. But that album, the Grace album, I think it's called Grace.
- [36:25]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. His only album.
- [36:27]
Mike
So good.
- [36:28]
Bobby Bones
Classic. Yeah. There was a sound. That song kind of reamed itself during American Idol because everybody kept singing it over and over again.
- [36:39]
Mike
Really?
- [36:39]
Bobby Bones
Hallelujah.
- [36:41]
Mike
So what brought it to American Idol? Was it Jeff Buckley or Shrek?
- [36:46]
Bobby Bones
It's in Shrek?
- [36:47]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah, it's in Shrek.
- [36:48]
Mike
Who sings it? Shrek. Some.
- [36:52]
Bobby Bones
I don't know that I've ever seen.
- [36:53]
Assistant/Researcher
The character singing it, but I remember the scene.
- [36:55]
Mike
I remember, you know, my kids singing it. And I'm like, how does he know this? And then I realized it was Shrek, but I don't know who sings it in Shrek.
- [37:02]
Bobby Bones
Never seen Lion King. Never seen Shrek.
- [37:05]
Mike
You're good.
- [37:05]
Bobby Bones
I have a feeling I'm going to, though. Now that we're about to have a kid.
- [37:08]
Mike
Oh, you're gonna see all the cartoons.
- [37:10]
Bobby Bones
The Hallelujah singer drowned accidentally in 1997 while swimming in the Mississippi River. He was 30 and Grace is his only album. He was awaiting on the arrival of his band from New York, and he drowned while swimming.
- [37:24]
Mike
Now, you've seen them since the Bear River.
- [37:27]
Bobby Bones
I wouldn't get in it. I don't think it's so wide. The parts that I've seen. It's. I don't know how you get in that and don't get swept down hundreds of yards.
- [37:36]
Mike
At least that current looks crazy. I don't care where you've seen it. You've seen it in Memphis. If you've seen it in Mississippi, you've seen it anywhere. Like in Arkansas.
- [37:43]
Bobby Bones
Like, it's. It's.
- [37:45]
Mike
It looks like a river. You do not even want to get.
- [37:47]
Bobby Bones
Close to the play. And that's my relationship with it, because I have seen it a lot. It's so thick and strong. But I don't know that it's like that everywhere.
- [37:59]
Mike
Yeah. Like, maybe there's an area where it's not. I don't know, man. I just remember reading this story and just being like, why would he go swimming in the Mississippi River? Like, it doesn't seem real. And I know that's all. That's a constant, like, conversation of, like, well, did he mean to? Did he. Did he not? Did he want to not live? Like, did he.
- [38:17]
Bobby Bones
Oh, I thought he made his way.
- [38:18]
Mike
Push him in or that, you know, just. No, no. It just doesn't sound like somebody would just want to go swim in the Mississippi River.
- [38:24]
Bobby Bones
Otis Redding.
- [38:25]
Mike
Oh, plane crash.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Before he got famous.
- [38:29]
Mike
Crazy.
- [38:30]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Known as the King of Soul. Otis Redding died at 26 when his plane crashed into Wisconsin Lake in 1967. Sitting on the dock of the bay. Was released after he died.
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Mike
Is that the lake we walked on?
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Bobby Bones
That's the lake.
- [38:41]
Mike
I think that's the lake we walked on.
- [38:43]
Bobby Bones
I don't know. But I was talking with. I was having a meal with the Kansas head football coach, Coach Leopold, and he coached at Wisconsin Whitewater before he went to Buffalo to coach. Before he went to Kansas to coach. And I was like, I can't. I can't do Wisconsin. I was like, loved it there. The people are awesome, but I don't do cold.
- [39:02]
Mike
It's so cold.
- [39:03]
Bobby Bones
And I said, wisconsin's the only place that I told him. You and I were driving by and we saw, like, a Jeep on the. On on the water.
- [39:10]
Mike
On multiple.
- [39:11]
Bobby Bones
On the lake. And we were like, what? And you ran out there on top of it.
- [39:14]
Mike
I was like, you can walk on that. They're like, yeah.
- [39:16]
Bobby Bones
And he was like, man. People used to like build like a big nice tent. Not just a tent, but like a real. Like a semi permanent, not permanent. And they do it and they'd cut a hole and they'd have like wi fi and they'd stay there for like a week on the. On the frozen lake.
- [39:29]
Mike
Dude, that's amazing, man. The car. When we saw the cars on the lake, that blew my mind.
- [39:32]
Bobby Bones
Shout out to all you guys that can actually live with this.
- [39:34]
Mike
Yeah.
- [39:34]
Bobby Bones
Because I can't do it. Next up, Troy Gentry.
- [39:41]
Mike
Helicopter.
- [39:41]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Half of the country duo Montgomery Gentry, known for My Town. Something to be proud of where I come from. He was killed in a helicopter crash in 2017 in Medford, New Jersey. We lived here while this happened.
- [39:52]
Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
He was praying for a concert when the aircraft went down shortly before takeoff. He was 50 years old.
- [39:57]
Mike
I never met him.
- [39:59]
Bobby Bones
I did. We have similar people that we work very closely with is why I met him. They were rocked. My. My people on my team that worked also with them when this happened. They were rocked by it. And I'd only met him a couple times, so personally I didn't know him that well. So I. I wasn't personally because I didn't have the relationship, but they were so that. Obviously that affected me. But yeah. Beloved. Beloved in town.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Lots of airplanes and helicopters though. So far this one not as famous, but I think you'll probably know. I think you'll know who it is, but. Randy Rhodes.
- [40:35]
Mike
Oh, yeah. He was the guitarist for Ozzy.
- [40:37]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [40:38]
Mike
Plane crash.
- [40:39]
Bobby Bones
Yep. 1982. He was on a small plane. The plane's wing clipped the top of the band's tour bus.
- [40:47]
Mike
Whoa. Like how when it was taken off. Oh, maybe it clipped it before it took off and then didn't realize they clipped it.
- [40:55]
Bobby Bones
The accident occurred when the planes wing clipped the top of the advanced tour bus, causing it to crash. It was 25 and consider one of the greatest rock guitarists ever.
- [41:02]
Mike
Oh, I don't. I don't understand.
- [41:04]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Mike, would you find out if it was going up or down? Because it'd be a weird place to park the van.
- [41:09]
Hari Kondabolu
Yeah.
- [41:09]
Bobby Bones
Or. Or the tour bus right next to the Runway.
- [41:12]
Mike
Right. This. This one sounds weird.
- [41:15]
Bobby Bones
Like it would make more sense if the bus drove up near the plane to get on the plane. Everybody get on the plane. Ready to get on the plane. And then they're loot. I don't know.
- [41:23]
Mike
But that wouldn't be where the plane's taking off.
- [41:25]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I know. All that's weird.
- [41:27]
Mike
What. What reminds you of Randy Rhodes, like, when you do. Did you know who he was? Like, did you? Because, I mean, that was a long time ago. He was probably Ozzy.
- [41:35]
Bobby Bones
No guitars.
- [41:36]
Mike
When he was.
- [41:36]
Bobby Bones
I only know way after death and having an interest in music that I know who Randy Rhodes is.
- [41:41]
Mike
He would play the Flying V Polka Dot guitar. Even.
- [41:44]
Bobby Bones
Even that. I don't know.
- [41:45]
Mike
Really?
- [41:46]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [41:46]
Mike
That's kind of his. That was his signature guitar.
- [41:48]
Bobby Bones
Never much of an Aussie guy. Never much of a Black Sabbath guy, even. And I went through a lot of phases of loving different kinds of music for an extended period of time, but never really got into that. Yeah, I like it now. And we would listen to, like, oh, I Am Iron man. And different songs coming out, like, for football.
- [42:06]
Mike
Sure.
- [42:06]
Bobby Bones
We come out Crazy Train, you know we ever came out to Crazy Train. No, it was always a fight in the locker room.
- [42:13]
Mike
What you guys.
- [42:13]
Bobby Bones
Between the black players and the white players.
- [42:15]
Mike
No way.
- [42:16]
Bobby Bones
It was either going to be Ozzy Osbourne or AC DC from the white players. And the black players. Always wanted Tupac. A little bit of Biggie, but mostly Tupac.
- [42:23]
Mike
Okay.
- [42:24]
Bobby Bones
And so did you guys alternate? We did.
- [42:26]
Mike
Yeah. That'd be the fair way of doing it.
- [42:27]
Bobby Bones
That would be the fair way to do it.
- [42:28]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah.
- [42:29]
Mike
Yeah.
- [42:29]
Bobby Bones
And so. Yeah. And it was never like a contentious. Like a race war, but that's. That's what it was the white guys wanted. And it started off, it was only Hell's Bells from acdc. That's all.
- [42:41]
Mike
Are you gonna hit. Start with a bell? Well.
- [42:43]
Bobby Bones
And we were the Mountain Pine Red Devils.
- [42:45]
Mike
Oh, yeah. It's perfect.
- [42:46]
Bobby Bones
So it start off dong. And then the high school administration was like, you guys got to stop doing hell theme stuff. We're already getting crap for being the devil.
- [42:53]
Mike
You name the school.
- [42:54]
Bobby Bones
Exactly. That's our mascot.
- [42:56]
Mike
What do you want us to do?
- [42:57]
Bobby Bones
That's our freaking mascot. We didn't choose the Devil. The Devils chose us.
- [43:00]
Mike
What was the Tupac song?
- [43:02]
Bobby Bones
Hit him up. Yes. Well, that makes sense because, like, California.
- [43:05]
Mike
Love doesn't make sense to it, but Dear Mama.
- [43:08]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, Mike, what do you see?
- [43:10]
Assistant/Researcher
So they were trying to buzz the bus.
- [43:12]
Bobby Bones
Oh, no. They were being funny.
- [43:14]
Assistant/Researcher
They're trying to scare them as they were taken off. Yeah. So they did two attempts to buzz them, and then they clipped the bus. And then the pilot was later found to be under the influence of cocaine. Expired pilot's license.
- [43:26]
Bobby Bones
They were. They were like pranking.
- [43:28]
Mike
What the.
- [43:29]
Bobby Bones
Oh, my God.
- [43:30]
Mike
This is. That's the most.
- [43:31]
Bobby Bones
That's why it didn't make sense to us though, because it doesn't line up with landing or really flying.
- [43:35]
Mike
It shouldn't make near a bus.
- [43:37]
Bobby Bones
They were trying to bust a bus.
- [43:39]
Mike
Who was on that plane? Was he just the only famous one?
- [43:42]
Assistant/Researcher
Mike, I think just him and the pilot looks like.
- [43:44]
Mike
Oh, boy.
- [43:45]
Bobby Bones
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The kids didn't come home last night. Along the central Texas plains, teens are.
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- [46:12]
Mike
Oh, is that right? The.
- [46:15]
Bobby Bones
And we can do a songs. Take me Home Country Roads. There's that one. There's guy I'm a country boy or Rocky Mountain.
- [46:30]
Mike
Yeah. Damn.
- [46:32]
Bobby Bones
It's crazy to think that John Denver is controversial for not being country.
- [46:36]
Mike
I know, dude. That's crazy. He seemed like the one guy that wouldn't be controversial about anything.
- [46:40]
Bobby Bones
And also he's very country.
- [46:42]
Mike
So Country.
- [46:42]
Bobby Bones
He's very. He's the most Americana country.
- [46:45]
Mike
Yeah. That to me, I mean, he even says, thank God I'm a country boy. Wild.
- [46:50]
Bobby Bones
He even says, take me home country roads.
- [46:52]
Mike
Right, right.
- [46:54]
Bobby Bones
Probably because the whole. That doesn't matter. That's. That's a whole debate for a different. Different podcast. But he died in 1997 when his experimental plane crashed in California. His last words were, do you have it now? He said this to air traffic control as he was trying to confirm a four digit transponder code he had just transmitted and wondered if it was received correctly.
- [47:17]
Mike
Wow.
- [47:17]
Bobby Bones
But he died in an experimental plane crash.
- [47:20]
Mike
What was the. The plane. What was the plane that he was experiencing experiment on?
- [47:23]
Bobby Bones
I don't know enough about planes. I don't even know enough about normal planes. Like you said. Is this an American Airlines? I'm like, I think it's a puddle jumper. If you want to get down into specific terms. Aaliyah.
- [47:35]
Mike
I don't know.
- [47:36]
Bobby Bones
We have a plane crash. Five or six left.
- [47:37]
Mike
Plane crash.
- [47:38]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. The R and B Singer died in 2001 in a plane crash in the Bahamas at 22 years old, shortly after filming a music video for Rock the Boat. The crash occurred shortly after takeoff, according to the Wikipedia article. We read this from. Aliyah and eight other people were killed. The pilot was also found to have traces of alcohol and cocaine in his system and may not have followed pre takeoff procedures, including the manufacturer's checklist. He was also not registered with the FAA to fly a plane for the company he was working for him.
- [48:05]
Mike
What is happening? They weren't trying to buzz the tour bus, were they?
- [48:08]
Bobby Bones
Four or five? Not that we know of. That buzz in the tour bus is crazy.
- [48:12]
Mike
And the fact that they did it a couple times, like they missed twice.
- [48:15]
Bobby Bones
Like we didn't buzz them close enough. Let's really scare him. But that's rock and roll, man. I mean, in the end, that's rock.
- [48:22]
Mike
And roll in that.
- [48:22]
Bobby Bones
What? That was a whole lifestyle. Yeah, that was their whole lifestyle. Dang. Okay, we got five. I'll give you the situation. See if you can tell me who it was. This Person was shot and killed under mysterious circumstances at a Los Angeles Motel in 1964.
- [48:43]
Mike
Marvin Gaye. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not Marvin Gaye. It's. Yeah. Could have been like a prostitute. Gosh. What's his name? Give me the first letter of his name.
- [48:58]
Bobby Bones
S. S?
- [49:02]
Mike
Oh, boy. I mean, I know exactly who this is. Right? Like they robbed him too.
- [49:07]
Bobby Bones
You for sure know this is. I definitely had one of my three month favorites. Yeah. With this person.
- [49:13]
Mike
Sam Cooke.
- [49:14]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [49:15]
Mike
Yeah. That was bizarre. They think maybe a prostitute, but maybe had a boss that planned the whole thing. Yeah, like, because he was robbed but then killed.
- [49:26]
Bobby Bones
That's why the mysterious circumstances is such a big part of the story. He was 33. According to police reports, Cook in an agitated state kicked in her door, struck her, and she shot him with a shotgun in self defense. A coroner determined the cause of death was the gunshot wound to the chest. And subsequent jury ruled the death justifiable homicide. Bring it on home to me. Yeah, yeah. That's a jam. Or darling you send me I know, yeah. Oh, man. Other people say I do same Cook.
- [50:00]
Mike
Perfect. Great voice.
- [50:01]
Bobby Bones
All right, next up, this singer was killed by his father.
- [50:05]
Mike
Yeah. The Marvin Gay.
- [50:06]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. April 1, 1984, before his 45th birthday. The shooting occurred after gay Marvin Gaye intervened in a physical altercation between his parents. The father later claimed he did not know the gun was loaded with live ammunition and thought he was firing blanks or BBs in self defense. No, I didn't. That didn't hold that whole lot of water with me.
- [50:25]
Mike
No, not at all.
- [50:27]
Bobby Bones
I've had a lot of BB guns in my day. None of them felt like a real gun.
- [50:31]
Mike
Nope, Nope. Nor did you really want to shoot.
- [50:34]
Bobby Bones
Anyone with a BB gun and in self defense. You know what works better than shooting someone with BB gun? Hitting him with the actual gun.
- [50:40]
Mike
The gun.
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Instead of hitting him with a. You just hit him with the gun.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Three left. This rapper, poet and actor was fatally shot in a Las Vegas drive by in 1996. Tupac Shakur, age 25 years old. His murder remains officially unsolved.
- [51:00]
Mike
I thought they solved it.
- [51:03]
Bobby Bones
No.
- [51:04]
Mike
Didn't they? They made some arrests. Yes, but that, I guess that doesn't solve the murder.
- [51:08]
Bobby Bones
I don't think they have an official. This is who did it. They have people who have claimed to know. They have people that arrested to have been part. Right, Mike? I don't think they have a person. No. They don't.
- [51:18]
Mike
Wow.
- [51:19]
Bobby Bones
There's been. Just been a lot of talk and.
- [51:20]
Mike
Wow. It's after a. A fight.
- [51:24]
Bobby Bones
It was after an award show.
- [51:25]
Mike
Oh, I thought it was a boxing match or.
- [51:27]
Bobby Bones
A boxing match. Yeah, that's what it was.
- [51:29]
Mike
Like Tyson or something. Yeah.
- [51:30]
Bobby Bones
I don't know. Now I'm just cramming stuff together in my head. Just six months after Tupac's death, this person was gone down in a similar drive by shooting Biggie. Biggie, 24 years old was Biggie. The award show, they get up on stage and like, I don't know.
- [51:45]
Mike
That's got to be right.
- [51:46]
Bobby Bones
I don't know. It doesn't have to be right.
- [51:47]
Mike
For the record, I feel like there is an award show and it's not Tupac, so. Yeah.
- [51:52]
Bobby Bones
Or maybe there was just a big fight where somebody gets shot after an award show.
- [51:55]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah, it was a Biggie after the Soul Train Music Awards.
- [51:58]
Bobby Bones
Okay. It's in there. I just don't somewhere quite know the place to put it. And then finally, this person died in a car accident in Honduras, April 25, 2002.
- [52:11]
Mike
2002.
- [52:13]
Bobby Bones
She was killed when she lost control of the rental SUV she was driving and swerved to avoid another vehicle in Honduras.
- [52:21]
Mike
Is she American?
- [52:22]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. The other four passengers in the vehicle were injured with three requiring hospitalization. This person was 30 years old.
- [52:30]
Mike
Man, I don't think I can get this.
- [52:34]
Bobby Bones
I was in a group. This person was in a group.
- [52:39]
Mike
She was in a group of three. Oh, is this Left Eye? Oh, I didn't realize it was a car accident.
- [52:47]
Bobby Bones
Lisa, Left Eye. Lopez. I think it's Lopez. It's spelled. It's spelled Lopes, but it's not the Hispanic. I think it's local, Mike.
- [52:57]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah, but it's spelled Lopes.
- [52:58]
Mike
Okay.
- [52:58]
Bobby Bones
I didn't know if there was, like, a difference.
- [53:01]
Mike
Maybe she did that. Just change it up a little bit.
- [53:03]
Bobby Bones
But I think that was her name. I don't think she got to pick it up.
- [53:06]
Mike
You can do that, though. When you're famous, you can mess with your last name a little bit, you know, Joe. Hey, you know about this stuff?
- [53:11]
Bobby Bones
Well, you can just change it fully and have a fake name. Yes, but. Or you can just pronounce it differently. Like, I believe Joe Theisman. Oh, Theisman changed it to Joe Theisman because he wanted to win the Heisman.
- [53:23]
Mike
Interesting. Like. Like Richie Valens. Ricardo Valenzuela. They made him change it to Valens.
- [53:30]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah.
- [53:30]
Bobby Bones
That would be just a stage name, though. Like, I'm pretty sure Joe Theisman's name was. Was that. This would be the last thing we look up. And then he just changed the pronunciation because he wanted it to be with Heism. Sound like Heisman.
- [53:40]
Mike
Oh, wow. I feel that sounds familiar.
- [53:43]
Bobby Bones
I can ask my assistant. We racing, Mike? You versus I found it.
- [53:46]
Assistant/Researcher
I don't know.
- [53:47]
Bobby Bones
It's like when a chess player. A computerized chess player plays a human. You're like, who's the best?
- [53:51]
Mike
But you know what? The human just won.
- [53:52]
Bobby Bones
Yes.
- [53:53]
Assistant/Researcher
What do you got?
- [53:53]
Bobby Bones
Human?
- [53:53]
Assistant/Researcher
Yeah, it was pronounced. These men.
- [53:55]
Mike
Yeah.
- [53:56]
Bobby Bones
And so they changed it to Joe.
- [53:57]
Assistant/Researcher
Theisman to boost his chance to win the Heisman.
- [54:00]
Mike
He didn't.
- [54:01]
Bobby Bones
He did.
- [54:01]
Mike
His people.
- [54:02]
Bobby Bones
Well, he did.
- [54:03]
Mike
No, to boost. Did he win the Heisman?
- [54:06]
Bobby Bones
He did not. I don't believe. Right, Mike?
- [54:07]
Assistant/Researcher
I don't think so.
- [54:08]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [54:08]
Mike
So.
- [54:11]
Bobby Bones
He.
- [54:11]
Mike
He broke his leg. Right. In a bad way.
- [54:13]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. That was pros, though. Did Theisman. I think he did win it.
- [54:18]
Mike
Did he?
- [54:19]
Assistant/Researcher
1970.
- [54:19]
Bobby Bones
When?
- [54:20]
Mike
So it worked. Oh, man.
- [54:22]
Bobby Bones
The Heisman.
- [54:24]
Mike
Mike, make sure you're right.
- [54:25]
Bobby Bones
So he did not. He's a nominee. But he did not win it.
- [54:27]
Assistant/Researcher
He lost.
- [54:27]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Joe Theisman was an All American and an academic All American. It was a contention for the Heisman Trophy. But he finished second.
- [54:34]
Mike
Oh, so close.
- [54:35]
Assistant/Researcher
Jim Plunkett won.
- [54:36]
Bobby Bones
The quarterback.
- [54:37]
Mike
Oh, yeah.
- [54:37]
Bobby Bones
The old quarterback. Jim Plunkett, whose original name was.
- [54:42]
Mike
But he wanted.
- [54:43]
Bobby Bones
But he changed it so people could say it on tv.
- [54:46]
Mike
And he can win the Heisman.
- [54:49]
Bobby Bones
All right. Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Eddie.
- [54:51]
Mike
Yeah, man. Thank you. That was fun.
- [54:52]
Bobby Bones
That was.
- [54:53]
Mike
I mean, I hate talking about death, but it's weird how much we know about those stories.
- [54:58]
Bobby Bones
Well, it's weird. They're all. I mean, they're 85% plan.
- [55:01]
Mike
We gotta. Gotta learn from our mistakes.
- [55:04]
Bobby Bones
The craziest one was the buzz in the bus.
- [55:06]
Mike
I had no idea.
- [55:07]
Bobby Bones
Craziest.
- [55:07]
Mike
Thank you for that, Mike. I learned something new every day.
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Hari Kondabolu
On the podcast health stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
I'm Dr. Priyanka Wali, a double board certified physician.
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Hari Kondabolu
And I'm Hari Kundabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am and on our show we're talking about health in a different way. Like our episode where we look at.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
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Hari Kondabolu
How preventable is type 2?
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
Extremely. Listen to Health Stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
This is an iHeart podcast.