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I have a client who cloned her dog. The clone is an identical replica. Looks wise, but personality wise, completely different.
Bobby Bones
Welcome to episode 561 with Dr. Josie. She is a veterinarian. She is my friend. She also talks about how one of her clients, one of her patients, has a cloned dog. We will get into that also how often people are cloning horses. And then my idea for, well, crime and how you could actually make a lot of money without stealing anything. So all that's coming up. She has a great podcast I want you to check out too it is called in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. Some of her guests have been Doug the Pug. Doug doesn't talk, though. It's his owners. Yeah. Lauren. Lauren Akins, Thomas Rhett's wife. Jason Tartick from the Bachelor. So many people. But you can go and listen to that podcast. There's season four coming out very soon. But this is Dr. Josie on Instagram @ Dr. Josie, vet episode 561. Here we go. So you go in houses now. Do you ever see. Because I think when housekeepers come to my hotel room in Vegas, there's money laying out drugs. Maybe not with me drugs, but, you know, there's all the drugs. Do you ever see, like, things at people's houses that maybe you shouldn't see? Because now that you're doing your job in people's.
Dr. Josie
Houses. That's a good question. I don't know that I've seen anything, like, where I'm like, oh, I probably shouldn't be seeing this. I do see, like, couples.
Bobby Bones
Fight. Oh, man, that's.
Dr. Josie
Awkward. Yeah. Like, whether it's usually not even about the pets, like, they're fighting about something.
Bobby Bones
Else. And you get there, like, mid.
Dr. Josie
Fight. Oh, they'll just be like, they were probably already in the middle of it, and then they answer the door, and then they kind of forget I'm there. And then they're, like, bickering in the corner, and I'm like, oh, God. Yeah. So I see fights or, like, yelling at their kids. Like, just, you know, stuff that you wouldn't normally see in a hospital.
Bobby Bones
Setting. Because you're in their.
Dr. Josie
House. Yeah, I'm in their.
Bobby Bones
House. I was thinking about.
A little bit what I was going to talk to you about, and I was just like, man, I bet people that go in people's personal spaces, and we just. Just understood they get to be in there, which would be, like, housekeepers at hotels or like, you when you come even to my house. But we're friends, but still, we don't even have to be there. Like, you could. You could literally come and take all my.
Dr. Josie
Watches. I could. I.
Bobby Bones
Could. And I wouldn't know, but you haven't seen any.
Dr. Josie
Drugs. No, it actually, that's like, a huge perk of my job is people will give me their gate codes or their door codes. I go into their homes all the time without them being.
Bobby Bones
Home. There's a lot of trust for your job because you take something that we care about greatly. So we have to trust you.
Dr. Josie
Anyway.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Which is our.
Dr. Josie
Animals.
Bobby Bones
Right. So it's like, well, might as well trust you with all of.
Dr. Josie
It.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Here's my checking account. Here's my login to my. My region's bank.
Dr. Josie
Account. I am not going to steal. I promise. Just here to take care of.
Bobby Bones
Puppies. We went to dinner together last night. Me, me, my wife, you, your husband. We ended up sitting.
1, 2, 1, 2. Which everybody act like that was a big deal at first because I was sitting next to you. You were sitting next to Caitlyn. How did you feel about the awkward.
Dr. Josie
Sitting? I loved it. At one point, you and I were talking about the Big Ten championship. Go Buckeyes. And they were like, talking about pregnancy, skin.
Bobby Bones
Care. Well, that was. That was the point of it. It was. I always talk to.
Dr. Josie
Caitlyn.
Bobby Bones
Right. All the time. And if we're sitting on the same side, it broke it up because there were times where I was talking to your.
Dr. Josie
Husband.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So I was pretty proud of myself with.
Dr. Josie
That. I loved.
Bobby Bones
It. Thank you. My wife did not love it at.
Dr. Josie
First. She was like, what the heck? But then once we got settled, I was like, this was a great.
Bobby Bones
Idea.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. And you're wearing the same thing you wore last.
Bobby Bones
Night. Thank you for asking. Here's.
Dr. Josie
Why. Let's hear.
Bobby Bones
It. First of all, we should normalize. Guys telling other guys they like their clothes. Because I just left therapy and I was walking out the door, another guy was walking in, and he goes, hey, man, I like your sweater. And I said, thanks, man. And then I was walking, I was like, dudes never say that to dudes. Because he wasn't hitting on.
Dr. Josie
Me. No, no, he genuinely liked your.
Bobby Bones
Sweater. Yeah, he liked my.
Dr. Josie
Sweater. Really.
Bobby Bones
Cool. Thanks. Yeah, appreciate that. And so, yeah, we should normalize. If a guy likes something on another guy, they should be able to say, I did a TikTok where I will take screenshots of guys in clothes that I like. I think that's way more common for.
Dr. Josie
Women. Yeah. No, but if you're, like, looking for some fashion inspo, I get.
Bobby Bones
It. Yeah. I don't want to call it inspo, but I do. I did screenshot it and I shared it with some people, and they made fun of me, and they were like, guys don't do.
Dr. Josie
That. Oh, I disagree. Also, guys just try to, like, be cool. Like, I think guys complimenting guys is a great thing, and we really should do more of.
Bobby Bones
That. Yeah. So he complimented my. My cardigan, and you said, you're wearing the same thing. So during the morning show, we will tape interviews ahead. I never have Guests live ever. Because it's too.
Dr. Josie
Early. Oh, really? So when I come on the radio, it airs the next.
Bobby Bones
Day? Yeah, or two.
Dr. Josie
Days. Oh.
Bobby Bones
Wow. Did you not know.
Dr. Josie
That? I didn't really think about.
Bobby Bones
It. You just show up, do your thing, and not pay attention to anything.
Dr. Josie
Else. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Totally. So. Because that happens a lot, and we're editing in and out of guests, and sometimes if I'm leaving, I'll wear the same clothes for like three days in a row so you can't tell an.
Dr. Josie
Edit.
Bobby Bones
Wow. Now I only wear them at work and then I change once I get home. Today I didn't have that luxury because I had to go to physical therapy. But I wear the same clothes because when we're editing clips, if it's a whole day, my clothes never.
Dr. Josie
Change.
Bobby Bones
Right. And so it doesn't look like we're puzzling a show.
Dr. Josie
Together. That makes.
Bobby Bones
Sense. So.
Dr. Josie
That'S. Why have you been going to the radio in your.
Bobby Bones
Boot? I have to. I've been going on a cart for a while. When I was rolling around on the cart, I saw the cart, and that's difficult. I have a security guy and he helps. I mean, he's more than a security guy. He's like, been my personal security guy for 15 years. But he helps me. He unloads the car, takes it up the stairs. It's been.
Dr. Josie
Great. Is it.
Bobby Bones
Tim? It is Tim. Yeah. You know.
Dr. Josie
Tim? Yeah, he's the.
Bobby Bones
Best.
Dr. Josie
Retiring? No, really? How do we replace.
Bobby Bones
Tim? Retiring for a second.
Dr. Josie
Time. He'll come.
Bobby Bones
Back. I don't think he.
Dr. Josie
Will. Dang.
Bobby Bones
It. Because he retired from law enforcement. Because he was, we'll just say, one of the law enforcements with three letters. I want to give too much about.
Dr. Josie
Him.
Bobby Bones
Okay. And then he retired completely and then joined me 13 years or so ago. And it's been me the whole time. I've tried to talk him out of.
Dr. Josie
Retiring.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And he said, you know, my body is still a little able and I'm still willing. So I want to retire while I have a little bit of money and can still move around and can go do.
Dr. Josie
Stuff. You know what, Tim? Fair.
Bobby Bones
Enough. I still don't like.
Dr. Josie
It. No, we decline your.
Bobby Bones
Offer. But I know my wife and Tim are the only people that have me on the Find my. On my.
Dr. Josie
Phone. Oh, really? Wow. Tim has you on Find.
Bobby Bones
My. Because I might be abducted sometime and the only way to find me is by Find.
Dr. Josie
My. Can you imagine someone kidnapping.
Bobby Bones
You? Why do you say it like that? I just think, why? Why would why. Why would that be such.
Dr. Josie
A. We should just give this guy.
Bobby Bones
Back. I'm curious as to what characteristics I possess that would have you make that.
Dr. Josie
Joke. Similar to my husband. Same thing. They'd be like, let's just give him.
Bobby Bones
Back. Why? And you. You have carte blanche. We are friends outside of anything professional, outside of the podcasting space, outside of the vet space. You can say whatever you.
Dr. Josie
Want. No, I just think you would be like. I think you would just, like, annoy them in the sense you're like, yeah, fine, kidnap me. Like, I think you would just have, like, some retorts for them where they'd be like, we need to give them.
Bobby Bones
Back. I'd be curious to know why do you want me? Like, yeah, what was the.
Dr. Josie
Genesis?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like, the motive, not even the motivation of the actual.
Dr. Josie
Kidnapping.
Bobby Bones
Right. But, yeah, I would have a lot of.
Dr. Josie
Questions. You would have a lot of.
Bobby Bones
Questions. And how far they thought this through, had they done it before? And if they answer those, then I know they're going to kill me, which would then make me change my strategy completely. Well, this is about you, though.
So you have. When you watch movies.
Do you get as sad when animals die as I do? Since you work with animals all the time? Because I would rather see every human die. Don't touch the.
Dr. Josie
Dog. You know what? That's fair.
Maybe a little part of me's dead inside. I don't know. Like, I have to compartmentalize that a little bit. Of course I'm sad. Like, I don't want any animals to.
Bobby Bones
Die. It's a movie.
Dr. Josie
Though. Yeah, but it's fake. It's.
Bobby Bones
Fake. It's absolutely fake.
Dr. Josie
Yep. So I don't get maybe as.
Bobby Bones
Worked up as you do, but I. I don't think that you should. And I think I've mentioned this before, is I want my surgeon, I want my vet. I. I want them to be a little.
Dr. Josie
Numb.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Because if you're doing anything emotional, if your heart rate is up, you're not going to perform at the height of your abilities a million.
Dr. Josie
Percent. I don't do anesthesia on my own animals because I'm emotionally attached to them. And so if they were coding or something was going awry while they were under, I don't trust my judgment fully because I'd be emotional now. If it's Stanley or Eller, I'm going to. Of course I love them, but I would be able to execute, like, for.
Bobby Bones
Sure. So I still fall back to you saying kidnappers will be annoyed with.
Dr. Josie
Me. You should take that as a.
Bobby Bones
Compliment. I took a test, and it said that I was on the spectrum a little.
Dr. Josie
Bit.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Do you think I'm on the spectrum a little.
Dr. Josie
Bit? I think the more I'm learning about people who are neurodivergent. My husband's neurodivergent. Is that that spectrum is, like.
Bobby Bones
Massive. It is. And I think that's why more people are now considered on the spectrum. It's not freaking people getting stabbed with vaccines. It's because there's more understanding of what the spectrum.
Dr. Josie
Is. Exactly. So I don't do. I think you're on. Maybe a little. Maybe you're on that spectrum. Who isn't on the spectrum a little.
Bobby Bones
Bit? And I feel seen whenever I've. Because I've always been a little.
Dr. Josie
Different. Yeah. I think it makes you.
Bobby Bones
Great.
Unless you're a.
Dr. Josie
Kidnapper. Unless you're a kidnapper, they're going to be like, this guy.
Bobby Bones
Sucks. Okay, other animal.
Dr. Josie
Questions.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Did you ever see I Am Legend with Will.
Dr. Josie
Smith? Yes. Is that an apocalypse.
Bobby Bones
Movie? Yeah, kind of. He's got the.
Dr. Josie
Dog. Yes. It's the German shepherd. Yeah. That was sad. That was.
Bobby Bones
Sad. That sucked.
Dr. Josie
Right? That sucked. Yeah, I was sad.
But it's not.
Bobby Bones
Real.
Yeah, but it still is real in our. In the estate that we're in. While watching a.
Dr. Josie
Movie.
Bobby Bones
True. Did you.
Dr. Josie
Watch. That does make me emotional. Like Marley and.
Bobby Bones
Me. I cried the. I read the book like a baby. I'm surprised you.
Dr. Josie
Did. Cried like a.
Bobby Bones
Baby. Because you have to deal with it so much. I don't think you're any more or less emotional in general, but because you have to deal with it so much. I'm so desensitized to news because I talk about current events all the.
Dr. Josie
Time.
Bobby Bones
Right. Earthquake kills 900 nuns, orphans, all caught on fire. Every charity just burned up. And I'm like, all right. Oh, man, that sucks. All right, next story. Like, that's just because I've done so many stories like.
Dr. Josie
That. But think about if it happens to you. Like, so for me, when other people's pets pass away, I'm sad. I'm like, oh, this is terrible. But I can compartmentalize it. Just like you. You reading news articles. But, like, let's say something happens to your wife or your family or your.
Bobby Bones
Friends. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. That's real to my animals. Like, then I'm.
Bobby Bones
Devastated. Yeah. Marley and me, I finished the book on an airplane. I was crying so hard, the person next to me actually said, are you.
Dr. Josie
Okay? Like, no, I'M not, but I.
Bobby Bones
Had a book in my.
Dr. Josie
Hand. Do you cry during.
Bobby Bones
Movies? I don't. I really don't.
Dr. Josie
Cry.
Bobby Bones
Okay. I'm not ashamed of crying. It is not a masculinity thing at all. It's a vulnerability.
Dr. Josie
Thing. Was this around when. What was your pit bull's.
Bobby Bones
Name? Stanley. No, no, no. Oh, oh, oh. I've had three dogs. Three dogs that are. So Bradley got sent to the.
Dr. Josie
Farm. Rest in.
Bobby Bones
Peace. You know that.
Dr. Josie
Story? I do know that.
Bobby Bones
Story. Arkansas Keith, they lied to me. I believed it until I was 39 or 40 years.
Dr. Josie
Old. He was.
Bobby Bones
Executed. He never went to the farm.
Sidebar. This Boston terrier, it was a mean little.
Dr. Josie
Sucker.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Not to me. But it would sleep. I never had a bedroom growing up, so I slept on the couch, and it slept on my chest on the couch. And it would have bad dreams and bite in its bad dreams. It naturally was a.
Dr. Josie
Biter. So it was biting you while it was.
Bobby Bones
Asleep? Yes. It wasn't out of.
Dr. Josie
Aggression.
Bobby Bones
Right. It lived in a biting.
Dr. Josie
World. What a.
Bobby Bones
Legend. In its sleep, it was biting things. And maybe it was. Maybe it was just aggressive all the time, even unconscious. So I still have scars on me from the dog biting me. I love that dog so much. And it bit multiple people. And when it finally bit someone that we didn't.
Dr. Josie
Know.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It's not like they could have sued us because we didn't have money. We were in a small.
Dr. Josie
Town.
Bobby Bones
Right. But how do you feel about someone having to actually shoot their own.
Dr. Josie
Dog? Well, I don't recommend anyone shoot their own dog. I think they're. Now there's way more humane. Well, country always more.
Bobby Bones
Humane. More in the.
Dr. Josie
Country. Yeah. But even still, you can take your dog to the vet and we will humane. Humanely euthanize them for pennies on the dollar rather than shooting them.
Bobby Bones
Promise. Do okay. Arkansas Keith was born in probably like, the 50s or something, which, by.
Dr. Josie
The way, we do have to euthanize dogs for being aggressive. It's.
Bobby Bones
Horrible. Sucks. I.
Dr. Josie
Know. It's like, my least favorite part of my.
Bobby Bones
Job. You know, we have to euthanize humans for being aggressive, too. And awful. Maybe just for the record, you know, it's not just animals. Yeah. Do you think it makes Arkansas Keith a bad.
Dr. Josie
Person? No, I don't think it makes him a bad person. I just think he used the resources that he had and the education. He had to do what he.
Bobby Bones
Thought was right because the dog had. Sadly, the dog had to be put.
Dr. Josie
Down. Yeah. I mean, I think if he was a public health risk. I. I understand why, man, that dog was.
Bobby Bones
Awesome. Except it was. It was terrible. No, it was a terrible.
Dr. Josie
Dog. That was like my Biggie. The dog that bit you on.
Bobby Bones
My. I held that dog with love and tender gentleness, and it bit.
Dr. Josie
The. It was a monster. I know. He was so.
Bobby Bones
Bad. Yeah. I loved that dog. And so that was Bradley. When I moved to Austin, Texas, and I was living there, and as I moved there, I didn't know anybody. You ever moved anywhere by yourself without knowing anybody? Nashville, you didn't know.
Dr. Josie
Anybody. Not a.
Bobby Bones
Soul. We're gonna come back to.
Dr. Josie
That.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So I moved to Austin and knew nobody moved down there by myself. There was a news story about a puppy mill being raided, and all these dogs were at the pug mill. I just went and got one of them. There was. There's no. They just gave me a dog. There was no paper. It wasn't. I just drove up and they were like, you can have one. It's crazy. Looking back, I did. So I took. Probably too young to take, but there was no other option because it.
Dr. Josie
Was a puppy mill, the shelter or the rescue or.
Bobby Bones
Whatever. So I had Dusty for.
Dr. Josie
Steve. That was.
Bobby Bones
His. Yeah. For like, 13 or 14 years.
It wrecked.
Dr. Josie
Me. No, there's no other loss like it wrecked.
Bobby Bones
Me. Yeah, I. When we were touring, because I was doing a lot of touring with Raging Idiots, my comedy band, and I was just starting to do some standup, and so I then had to have a bus because mostly it was pretty equal. We just all had bunks and we could fit more people in. But I was like, I have to have a big bunk, big room in the back because I take my dog because he's dying. And so we drove around. I dedicated my last book to him. Not the dog book, but my Fail until you don't. And on the front page, it says, too Dusty, the best dog. Da, da, da. You'll never know this. Well, mostly because dogs can't read, so. Got it. But that dog. And we had to drive. I don't want this whole podcast to be sad, but I had to go after. Oh, it was my complete adult growth.
Dr. Josie
Dog. Oh.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like, as I grew as an adult, that's my association with him. He was with me the whole time. Best. Best.
Dr. Josie
Buddy.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I had to go and do that and put him.
Dr. Josie
Down. That's.
Bobby Bones
Awful. It's.
Dr. Josie
Awful. I would venture to say most people that are listening to this that have animals can think of that one awful dog or cat that they had in their 20s or 30s, like when they were really going from childhood into being an adult. And those animals, like, they help shape who you are. I know it sounds crazy if you don't have.
Bobby Bones
My. For sure. Adult. Adult.
Dr. Josie
Dog.
Bobby Bones
Yes. Like growing as an adult was with me the whole.
Dr. Josie
Time. Yes. Through heartbreak and.
Bobby Bones
Breakups. And before we, we went in, when I put him down, we listened to Jack White. I believe that we are gonna be friends. I still remember so vividly. It sucked, but this is why I took from that. It's awful. It's.
Dr. Josie
Awful.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But what I took from that and what I would tell other friends who had to put their animals down was, I'm so grateful that I was so sad. Because had I not been so sad, none of that would have mattered for 12 or 13 years. I had a great 12, 13 years with that.
Dr. Josie
Dog.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. And had I not, I would not have been as.
Dr. Josie
Sad.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. It was a bowling ball to the gut. I was a wreck for months. It makes me sad thinking about it now, but I. I am so happy I get to be that sad because that animal brought me.
Dr. Josie
Such. Fulfilled your life. Oh, yeah. You love. Unconditional love. Okay, how about this? Now that you're in like a socioeconomic place to do so, would you.
Bobby Bones
Have. You can say, I'm rich. I make jokes about it. I make jokes about it now because people used to say, why do you still act like you're poor? So now I just go, I'm rich. Okay, go.
Dr. Josie
Ahead. Now that you're filthy.
Bobby Bones
Rich. I wouldn't call it a dog.
Dr. Josie
No. I was going to ask you, would you clone.
Bobby Bones
Dudley? His name's Stanley or Dusty. Dusty. You combine the two. Now you have actually.
You have genetically modified my two dogs into one dog named Dudley. No, I wouldn't. I think they're one too many dogs that need to be.
Dr. Josie
Adopted.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And two, I think that what's the difference in having a cloned dog? You can't actually talk with a dog as much as I've.
Dr. Josie
Tried.
Bobby Bones
Right. I've talked to a dog a.
Dr. Josie
Lot.
Bobby Bones
Right. But you can't actually talk to a dog and have them talk back to you. Just having their offspring feels like it would almost be exactly the same thing. From what you would be able to.
Dr. Josie
Tell. I have a client who cloned her dog. I'm taking care of the clone. The clone is an identical replica. Looks wise, but personality wise, completely.
Bobby Bones
Different. Okay, so is it even cloned.
Dr. Josie
Then? It's cloned DNA. But think.
Bobby Bones
Like. But I know. Yeah. You're I asked that question wrong. Is it even what you wanted then, as a clone? Because you wanted the exact version of what you.
Dr. Josie
Had. Exactly. It has a different personality. It had different. It got beat up at the dog park when it was a puppy, so now it's terrified of other dogs. But the OG loved other dogs because that never happened to it when it was a puppy. So totally different.
Bobby Bones
Personality.
Dr. Josie
Wow. I know. Sometimes. So that has really kind of given.
Bobby Bones
Me. What's that cost, 50.
Dr. Josie
Grand? Yeah, it's about 50 grand.
Bobby Bones
Yep. If someone came to you and said, what do you think about me cloning my dog? What would you.
Dr. Josie
Say? I'd say it's a personal decision. I'd say from my experience, I've seen people. Just so you know, it could have a totally different personality.
Bobby Bones
But. And that's not why you want to clone. If you. If I want something cloned, I want the exact freaking.
Dr. Josie
Thing. Yeah. Like, if I was to clone Biggie, who passed away, I would want him to be just as.
Bobby Bones
Nasty. Yeah, you'd want. That's the reason of the clone. Otherwise, you just have their.
Dr. Josie
Offspring.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Have them have a kid, then genetically, it's almost the same. Wow, that's crazy that you're watching a.
Dr. Josie
Clone. Yeah, Yeah. I take care of a.
Bobby Bones
Clone. You take care. You, meaning you. That's.
Dr. Josie
Your. My.
Bobby Bones
Patient. Got.
Dr. Josie
It. And then we get asked. I mean, we as veterinarians have to sit a day or anesthetized to harvest the skin to send into the lab for the cloning. No way.
Yeah. I think the lab's in.
Bobby Bones
Dallas. So how do you do that, do you think? Is it like. It's so simple as a scalpel cutting something super.
Dr. Josie
Simple. Just harvest a piece of skin, you put it in a special container, and then you send it.
Bobby Bones
Off. Mike, is this as bizarre to you as it is to me right now? I know that we talked about even Tom Brady doing it, but her having actual.
Dr. Josie
Firsthand.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Is that weird? That's insane. It's insane. Okay, so you're. They're. They're for sure. They're for sure. Done humans.
Dr. Josie
Right? Cloned.
Bobby Bones
Humans. No, they for sure have.
Dr. Josie
Right. They had to have.
Bobby Bones
Right. If it's. If.
Dr. Josie
It'S. So horses are cloned. They are everywhere. Cloned horses.
Bobby Bones
Huge. Is this a conspiracy.
Dr. Josie
Theory? No, no, no, no, no. There's tons of clones. Tons and tons. Like in Argentina, where they play polo. Entire thousands of horses have been cloned, and they're riding and playing clones of the best polo horses.
Bobby Bones
Ever. Inside information or Is this.
Dr. Josie
Known? No, this is.
Bobby Bones
Known. So then why would you pay a ton of money for the offspring of a horse, let's say, secretary was still alive and someone pays. What do they call that, that.
Dr. Josie
Fee? The, like the stud.
Bobby Bones
Fee. The stud.
Dr. Josie
Fee?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Why would.
Dr. Josie
You. So that's the huge thing now. Because, listen, you pay for the stud fee, which is like the egg and the sperm to come together.
Bobby Bones
Which. The stud fee. It may not. They may not even have a.
Dr. Josie
Kid.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. With a clone, though, you have.
Dr. Josie
The skin and you can. Exactly, exactly. And then you have to breed them, you have to find the mayor, then you raise them, and then they may not even turn out to be good. But the clone, you.
Bobby Bones
Know. Are the clones often as good as the.
Dr. Josie
Animals? A lot of times they're really.
Bobby Bones
Good. More so than if it's a, you know, half and half because you got a mom and a dad.
Dr. Josie
Horse. The clones are better typically than the ones that are.
Bobby Bones
Bred.
Dr. Josie
So.
Bobby Bones
Amazing. Listen.
Rob Gronkowski
Here.
Bobby Bones
Why? What would keep me then from breaking into a place.
I don't need to watch horses have sex, but all I need to do is like, break into a.
Dr. Josie
Stable.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Take a little skin and get out. Like, that's the ultimate heist of a million dooll.
Dr. Josie
Horse. We just. We just came up with a new business.
Bobby Bones
Plan. Like that would be that. That would. I would do.
Dr. Josie
That. Yeah. Of like American Pharaoh or whomever. Yeah. You could. You could.
Bobby Bones
Clone. That's a famous.
Dr. Josie
Horse. Yeah. He won the Triple Crown. He's a big racehorse. I'm sure that in horse racing, I do not know, but I'm sure there's rules. You can't race.
Bobby Bones
Clones. How do they know it's a clone, though? Is there like, no blue.
Dr. Josie
Check? They know because.
They'Re not Instagram verified. Of course. No, they know because they know the pedigree. You have to turn in the pedigree of each.
Bobby Bones
Racehorse. Can't you.
Dr. Josie
Lie? I don't like. It's so tightly buttoned up. I think it'd be really hard, but maybe. I.
Bobby Bones
Guess. I can't believe they have cloned horses. And it's so.
Dr. Josie
Known. I'm gonna send you a documentary. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Very well.
Bobby Bones
Known.
Dr. Josie
Wow. Yeah. Mind.
Bobby Bones
Blowing. So back to my point of if we're doing dogs, no problem. If we got clone horses everywhere. You don't think somewhere in a lab in Russia they've done this with.
Dr. Josie
Humans?
Bobby Bones
Probably. Or China, probably. It's a.
Dr. Josie
It. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Probably. There's an arms race. That's scary with technology, with science everywhere. All the.
Dr. Josie
Time.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And again, if we can do horses and dogs so easily, for.
Dr. Josie
Sure. Oh, yeah. It's the same mammals. It's the same. It's got to be the.
Bobby Bones
Same. The horse thing blows my.
Dr. Josie
Mind. That's really scary to think about.
I don't know if I'd. I wouldn't want to be.
Bobby Bones
Cloned. I would.
I.
Dr. Josie
Would. Tell me more. I mean, you. It wouldn't be you. It would just be another. But like, what if the next you comes back and is a total.
Bobby Bones
Asshole? Some would say this version is.
Dr. Josie
Okay, so maybe the next one's gonna be.
Bobby Bones
Better. Many a kidnapper don't want anything to do with.
Dr. Josie
Me. That's.
Bobby Bones
True.
I would like a version of me that I can work with because I would send them to.
Dr. Josie
Do. Oh, you'd like to still be alive while your clone's.
Bobby Bones
Alive? Oh, yeah. No, I wanted to go out and do stuff. I hate waking up in the.
Dr. Josie
Morning.
Bobby Bones
Okay. So I have to like go in early and record commercials. I have to record like 100 commercials in the.
Dr. Josie
Morning.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Gotta record station liners. I gotta record. I won't do any of that. I would have my clone go in and do all that. I would come in straight for the.
Dr. Josie
Meat. Does that in the morning. When you. Because I was in the airport the other day and I was getting my bag and I heard you say, hello, welcome to Nashville. Like, you do all.
Bobby Bones
Those. That was live. I sit up at the top of the airport and do that. I go in for.
Dr. Josie
An. Like, is he.
Bobby Bones
Here? Yeah, we're all up there. Although all those people on the top have a microphone. And we're just like, all right, Cole Swindell, you.
Dr. Josie
Go.
Bobby Bones
Miranda.
Dr. Josie
Yes. Hit.
Bobby Bones
It. Yeah. People don't know that, but that's one of the things about Nashville being.
Dr. Josie
Live. So.
Bobby Bones
Real. Yeah, we're up there. Mind blown about horses. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our.
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And we're back on the bobbycast. You moved to Nashville. Oh, to Dusty. I would not clone him. He's the greatest. Greatest. Like little friend I had my whole life. Stanley gets to be a different story and then Eller gets to be a different story for sure. But I did move to Austin. Had no, really no system. So I had that.
Dr. Josie
Dog. Yeah, he was.
Bobby Bones
Your.
Dr. Josie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Rock. You moved to Nashville without knowing anybody. Why.
Dr. Josie
Nashville? My husband and I were living in Chicago during COVID So you had a husband.
Bobby Bones
Though. You knew somebody. You came with your.
Dr. Josie
Husband. We came together and knew no one. Let's we as a.
Bobby Bones
Unit. Oh, that takes 50% of intensity off of it. Well, yeah, you had a. You had it like.
Dr. Josie
Somebody. That's true. Like we could go out and.
Bobby Bones
Meet people together or you could just be together at.
Dr. Josie
Home. Yeah, true. But it was still scary to.
Bobby Bones
Like. I agree, I agree. Going to a new city is tough. Yeah. But I went by myself and just sat on my thumb when I wasn't at work. Like there wasn't. And also I'm.
Dr. Josie
Not. No.
Bobby Bones
Caitlyn. I'm not the most outgoing person anyway, so it's not like I would never.
Dr. Josie
Leave. Yeah, that's.
Bobby Bones
Awful. Why did you guys move.
Dr. Josie
Here? Well, we were living in downtown Chicago and it was 2020 and everything was boarded up and we just wanted to change. I was gonna be a partner probably at the practice I was at and I Knew I was like, we're gonna get locked in. We're gonna end up in downtown Chicago forever if we don't make a change. And we wanted to try something different. So.
Bobby Bones
He. Why. Why Nashville.
Dr. Josie
Though? Well, my husband for. Mainly for tax reasons. He's like, you can choose Austin, Miami, or Nashville. Where do you want to.
Bobby Bones
Go? Like, state.
Dr. Josie
Taxes. Yeah, exactly. And I chose Nashville. I was like, well, I like horses. My family's in Indiana, so we did not even visit. We just bought a house sight unseen and drove.
Bobby Bones
Down.
Dr. Josie
Really?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I didn't visit Austin ever before I went. Different situation. It was awesome. It's the greatest city ever. Other than.
I've, like, I have different home loves because it's home, but Austin's my favorite.
Dr. Josie
City. Yeah, it's a great.
Bobby Bones
City. No winter. There's like two weeks of.
Dr. Josie
Winter. It's also very outdoorsy. Got the.
Bobby Bones
River. It has all that stuff. But no, winter is really the selling. I hate.
Dr. Josie
Cold. I know you hate the hate cold. I tried the pickleball with you in like, 55. No, I'm not doing.
Bobby Bones
It. Do not have enough clothes for.
Dr. Josie
That. Why? Just. It doesn't. You just hate.
Bobby Bones
It. I don't like cold. I'd rather be very hot. Austin was great because. Yeah. And it was.
Dr. Josie
Young.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I was.
Dr. Josie
Young.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It was great. My favorite city. It was create. It was warm and welcome to creative.
Dr. Josie
People.
Bobby Bones
Yes. You weren't weird. Also, you really didn't know who was rich and who was poor. Because I got to go through some phases there, move there poor and didn't leave rich, but left what I thought was.
Dr. Josie
Rich.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. When I left Austin, I was making a few hundred thousand dollars a year. I literally thought I was.
Dr. Josie
Rich.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And that is. That was rich. That was so rich. To me, it is because I never thought at least I had a nice house. It was.
Dr. Josie
Crazy. Austin now, though, I think is a little, like, it's pretty saturated.
Bobby Bones
Now. In what.
Dr. Josie
Way? Like, I just think. I mean, similar to Nashville, but I think it's probably 10 years ahead of Nashville. Everybody's moved. Like.
Bobby Bones
It'S. I think it's. I think they're very.
Dr. Josie
Similar. You.
Bobby Bones
Do? I do. I. I don't think they're similar in the music space. I think a lot of people in Austin would go, oh, yeah, it's like Nashville. It's not. Nashville is a billion dollar super musical.
Dr. Josie
Industry. Not incomparable, in my.
Bobby Bones
Opinion. Austin has a lot more.
Dr. Josie
Technology.
Bobby Bones
Yes. Far greater.
Dr. Josie
Technological. A lot of Silicone Valley people came there.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But they. But people do move to both places a lot for reason. You moved.
Dr. Josie
Here? Yeah. I mean, we were getting.
Bobby Bones
Taxed. The crazy thing about Texas was property. Property.
Dr. Josie
Taxes.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It was.
Dr. Josie
Insane. Even here is way less. I mean, they just reassess them, but it's way less than it was in.
Bobby Bones
Chicago. I think property taxes make sense, but I think there's a way that you should be able to.
Mature out of.
Dr. Josie
Them. Like, you've paid them for X amount.
Bobby Bones
Of.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. Time.
Bobby Bones
Okay. You pay them. I. I hate, though, to see property taxes go up in neighborhoods where people don't have a lot of.
Dr. Josie
Money.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And then all of a sudden. Yeah. People start building stuff around them and the property values up, and all of a sudden they've got a fat tax. It's not. That's not fair. That's one of the. Yeah, that's one. But two, you live somewhere for 15 to 20 years. Whatever the rule.
Dr. Josie
Is.
Bobby Bones
Right. We're going to start dropping your property taxes at about 10 years incrementally by.
Dr. Josie
Percentage. I think that's a great idea.
Bobby Bones
Because it's weird to keep paying taxes on something you already own. There's nothing else that we fully own all the time we got to keep paying taxes on, so. But I understand why you can't.
Dr. Josie
Really get taken advantage.
Bobby Bones
Of. Yep. So you like this home.
Dr. Josie
Now? This is home. We're here to stay. We love Nashville. I mean, you know, everyone's so warm and welcoming. And now, I mean, my business is here now. My husband's business is.
Bobby Bones
Here. Your business has changed because when we met, at first you were work. You had your own practice in a.
Dr. Josie
Building. Yeah. Remember I took you on a.
Bobby Bones
Tour? Yeah. It was.
Dr. Josie
Cool. Went to.
Bobby Bones
Brunch. It was cool to walk back there and see, like.
Dr. Josie
The. OR and the dental suite. Yeah. I sold my practices and knew I still wanted to be a vet. So I said, I've got to do something where I can be a veterinarian but.
Have a different quality of life, because being in the hospital is a grind. I mean, you're in there 10 to 12 hours a day, every single day, and I'm managing 30 people. So I decided to start a concierge.
Bobby Bones
Practice. Would people come into your practice, though, your brick and mortar practice, just if a dog got hit and they just rush a dog.
Dr. Josie
In? Yeah. Oh.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So it was an emergency room type.
Dr. Josie
Situation. I mean, we were a general practice, so primarily we were seeing scheduled visits. But, like, if a dog got hit in the neighborhood, they would come rushing.
Bobby Bones
In. If if it was open, was there always a doctor.
Dr. Josie
There? Yes.
Yeah, always a.
Bobby Bones
Doctor. And so you're there, you're doing your thing, and there are times where you're just like, oh, I got to jump.
Dr. Josie
In. And I was practicing.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Save this dog or.
Dr. Josie
Cat.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Anybody ever bring weird animals in, like a.
Dr. Josie
Chinchilla? People would call about like chinchillas and rabbits and guinea pigs. I will do like the occasional pocket pet we call them. I really don't do reptiles. That's the one where I like, kind of draw the line. I also don't know much about birds. And now I go to, like, a lot of country music stars, homes, and a lot of them have like chickens and goats and whatever. And so I'll like, honestly have to like, go watch a YouTube video.
Bobby Bones
Sometimes. Is there a different. Are birds different than mammals as far as, like, how the. Or. I know it's a really dumb person.
Dr. Josie
Question. It's not. Reptiles and birds are a totally different.
Bobby Bones
Species. So what about mammals to.
Dr. Josie
Birds? Very different. Very different. So mammals, like doing a hamster or I've done a hedgehog taking care of a hedgehog versus like a cat. Like a little. A lot more similar than doing a.
Bobby Bones
Chicken. Body temperature is.
Dr. Josie
Different.
Bobby Bones
Different. Like, I think that to me would seem a great contrast between a bird and a.
Dr. Josie
Cat. Yeah. Warm blooded versus cold blooded IR snake.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Are there people that niche, that industry of pocket pets.
Dr. Josie
Though? Yes, there are exotic vets that really only do exotics. So frogs, turtles.
Bobby Bones
Chinchillas. They should put that next to one of those places that only sell Lamborghinis and Porsches. There should be, you know how Kentucky Fried Chicken and like Taco Bell would have, like the.
Dr. Josie
Joint.
Bobby Bones
Yes. They should do exotic cars and. Yes, exotic cars and exotic pets. You get your Lamborghini because it's those kind of people or young kids for the most part, that have weird.
Dr. Josie
Pets. Get your Lambo service and your.
Bobby Bones
Python shots and get your chinchilla.
Dr. Josie
Neutered. Wait. Genius. Right after we start harvesting horse.
Bobby Bones
Skin. Yeah. That's crazy. Is that happening here, do you.
Dr. Josie
Think? Oh, yeah, it's happening in the U.S. is it taboo? I don't think so. No. I mean, people, they're very open about it, for.
Bobby Bones
Sure. Humans for sure. Now that I know they're doing bigger things because obviously it was sheep. We know Dolly and the sheep, but you still have to study about Dolly the.
Dr. Josie
Sheep. I know. Yeah, we learned about.
Bobby Bones
Dolly. What did you. Can you teach me? What did you.
Dr. Josie
Learn? I honestly can't remember. It was my Biology 101 of, like, my freshman year in undergrad, all.
Bobby Bones
I remember is they cloned a sheep named Dolly, and it was the first clone. I remember thinking, then they're lying. This is the first clone they're telling us about. I never think. Anything that we see that we're told is the first is actually the.
Dr. Josie
First. And that's why kidnappers hate.
Bobby Bones
You. Oh, for sure. They'd be like, dude, just go out. Whenever I was watching the Las Vegas. It's called the. It's got, like, the E. A, E. Whatever it is, where they bring in the new technology and they show it off. Mike, do you remember what that's called? That big seminar, the festive. Whatever. They bring in all this new stuff. It's a big fest every year. It's a big convention. Ces. Ces. Thank you. EES is the alarm I set off that cost me a million dollars.
Dr. Josie
Ces. I remember.
Bobby Bones
That. Yeah. Oh, yeah. CES is when they bring in all the new.
Dr. Josie
Technology. Were you in Vegas for.
Bobby Bones
This? For.
Dr. Josie
What? This.
Bobby Bones
Conference? No, I just watch.
Dr. Josie
Clips. I was wondering if this is when you found poop in your bathroom in.
Bobby Bones
Vegas. I was in Vegas for that.
Dr. Josie
One. I.
Bobby Bones
Know. In my.
Dr. Josie
Shower. That's my favorite story ever. Do. Did you talk about that on the.
Bobby Bones
Radio? Yeah, a little. I don't like. Okay, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna pin in that.
Dr. Josie
One. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm.
Bobby Bones
Done. No, because I'm gonna go back to.
Dr. Josie
That.
Bobby Bones
Okay. But they were showing these birds that were flying around at ces, like, two years.
Dr. Josie
Ago. Real.
Bobby Bones
Birds? No. Oh, birds that looked real. They keep cameras in them, like.
Dr. Josie
A drone and a fake.
Bobby Bones
Bird. You had. Bet all the money you ever made that that's a real bird. It looks so scary. And they'd fly it around the room. It was real. And they were like, this is the first time. I'm like, that's bull crap. You don't think government. If they're giving it to us. You don't think governments have been doing this for 15.
Dr. Josie
Years? You know, Russia's got those every day, for.
Bobby Bones
Sure. And, you know, I don't believe in that. No, birds are real. You know, that whole thing, we're all birds. I don't believe that. Because there are real birds, right? Ella, My dog has actually killed them and brought them into the.
Dr. Josie
House. I can confirm, yes, birds are.
Bobby Bones
Real. But when I saw that, I was like, oh, they've been watching us with birds. Not just drones, because they can fly a drone. So High. We can't see it. And they can monitor us. No doubt. But they can get lower with.
Dr. Josie
Fake birds because people are less.
Bobby Bones
Suspicious. And now I've seen birds that are hummingbird.
Dr. Josie
Sized. That's.
Bobby Bones
Scary. That we can buy. And again, you know, if we can buy.
Dr. Josie
Them.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And use them to monitor.
Dr. Josie
Folks.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. The government's been doing that.
Dr. Josie
Forever.
Bobby Bones
Totally. So I was in Vegas, and we walked into my hotel, my. Our room. My wife and I, we were staying there for a festival. And I looked down at the shower, and I was like. I felt bad for Kaylin. I was like, did she. Did you get sick? No, she couldn't help. There's poop in the shower.
And she was like, no, let me. She goes, oh, my God. She came and looked in it. And I called and I was like, hey, what do you say? Somebody pooped in our shower. We've been in that room for two days already, by the way. And so it had to be a cleaning.
Dr. Josie
Person. Had anyone. You'd showered.
Bobby Bones
Already? What do you.
Dr. Josie
Mean? Like, had you used multiple.
Bobby Bones
Times. We've been there for two.
Dr. Josie
Days. And so that. I didn't realize that I thought you had just checked.
Bobby Bones
In.
Dr. Josie
No. So you had been.
Bobby Bones
There. Yeah. No, it happened while we were.
Dr. Josie
Gone. And then a.
Bobby Bones
Poop. We were gone for.
Dr. Josie
Like. Are you sure you didn't accidentally poop and not.
Bobby Bones
Realize? I'm sure I didn't accidentally.
Dr. Josie
Poop. I know Caitlyn.
Bobby Bones
Wouldn'T. She's never pooped in her life. No, never. So she's never pooped. Nope. Not once. If anyone would have, it would have been me, but it wasn't me. And we. We found it, and I didn't say where we were staying, and I went on social media, and I was like, I just made. Pooped in my shower. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. And they came up and they cleaned it. Like, the owner of, like, the hotel called me the next.
Dr. Josie
Day. Mortified, I'm.
Bobby Bones
Sure. Yeah, very much so. And he was like, I am so sorry. Thank you for not saying the name of the hotel on your Instagram. We saw it. What can we give you? Like, who? And I, like, an idiot. I was like, nothing. That happens. Yeah, it really doesn't happen.
But also didn't want to be the guy that was like, you know what? I need a free.
Dr. Josie
Week. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. So he was like, well, let me know if you ever need anything. And there have been times I've thought about it, but I don't even think he Would remember if I called now, but, like, remember two years ago when someone pooped in my.
Dr. Josie
Shower? I think he would.
Bobby Bones
Remember. Yeah. That was a.
Dr. Josie
Crazy. I didn't realize you'd been staying.
Bobby Bones
There. Yeah, we. Yeah. No, no, we didn't just come.
Dr. Josie
In. Got it. And wasn't there, like, a towel in.
Bobby Bones
There? Yeah, there's a wet towel. Was in there as.
Dr. Josie
Well. Yeah, someone.
Bobby Bones
Pooped. What's your theory then? If there's a wet towel and there's poop in the shower? Because the wet towel. I forgot all about the wet.
Dr. Josie
Towel. Yeah. I.
Bobby Bones
Don'T. That's how you know it wasn't one of.
Dr. Josie
Us. Yeah. I still think there's a chance it could have been.
Bobby Bones
You. Oh, that's your theory? It for sure wasn't, but I.
Dr. Josie
Understand, you know, like, that's the most.
Bobby Bones
Likely. Do you get grossed out by animal.
Dr. Josie
Poop? Not at all. No. I will say. I mean, I'm telling people now I'm pregnant in the.
Bobby Bones
First. You are now saying, I am. So by the time this airs. Which will be over a week from now. Right, Mike? Yeah, but you have to put it.
Dr. Josie
Out. Yeah. I'm.
Bobby Bones
Pregnant. Okay, everybody, Josie's pregnant. That's awesome.
Dr. Josie
Congratulations. The first trimester of smelling in my job, like, poop doesn't gross me out. Anal glands, like, I've been. I've had horrible things happen to me in the vet field. I almost fainted multiple times in my first trimester because of the.
Bobby Bones
Smells. There were times where Stanley was so sick, I would. You would request pictures of.
Dr. Josie
Poop? Yes. I couldn't do that either. People. Owners will send me, hey, here's.
Bobby Bones
A poop I stopped sending once I knew you were pregnant. I stopped even, like, asking about.
Dr. Josie
Things. Yeah, because you kind.
Bobby Bones
Of. Because I knew. Because Caitlin had gone through it.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. So, yeah, it was a rough go, but now I'm better. Now I'm well into the pregnancy and I can smell poop again and not gag. But I don't like animal poop. Doesn't bother me at all. Human poop kind of grosses me.
Bobby Bones
Out. I'm just not a poop guy in general. That being said, Stanley's poop does not bother me at all because he was so sick for so long. I have no problem wiping him. I have nothing there to unfaced.
Dr. Josie
None. And it's your.
Bobby Bones
Baby. Yep. And I. I listen. I scrub like the dickens when it's over because I know just poop has a lot of germs, like bacteria. All the bad Stuff. But I have no. Because he like almost.
Dr. Josie
Died. He was so.
Bobby Bones
Sick. Yeah. But he, like, didn't go. He didn't go to the bathroom except like it was like water and I've just cleaned off of him. It was nothing. It was the only time in my life that I've ever been. It.
Dr. Josie
Was. Yeah. You really wiped him. You took really good care of.
Bobby Bones
Him. Bulldogs, I do not recommend them and I have to say I love mine. I was saying this on the show the other day. Unless you have a lot of money to just be like, I am going to spend tens of.
Dr. Josie
Thousands.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Literally. And you know what? With us, with me, I think we're probably getting close to almost more than tens of.
Dr. Josie
Thousands. I think you're.
Bobby Bones
Close. What's all. He's had nine surgeries.
Dr. Josie
Yep. His.
Bobby Bones
Eyes. We might be at a hundred thousand dollars for that.
Dr. Josie
Dog. Yeah. I don't know. Even if you have the money, like there, I mean, Stanley, I will say he has great confirmation.
Bobby Bones
His. Well, I don't know what that.
Dr. Josie
Means. Like, his body type is good. Like he gets around pretty well. There are some bulldogs that like.
Bobby Bones
Can barely get around because they're so like, like.
Dr. Josie
Fat. Well, like fat. And they're short to the ground and we take X rays and their spines are all wonky, almost like.
Bobby Bones
Scoliosis. Is it all because of like the inbred? Yeah, like.
Dr. Josie
Just. Yeah, exactly. You know, you're breeding them to be small and pocket size and then they've got these smushy faces and they can't breathe. It is almost like it's bordering a little.
Bobby Bones
Unethical. I feel that.
Dr. Josie
Way.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Even with a bulldog that I.
Dr. Josie
Love.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I tell people, don't get a bulldog. Almost like, let's let them all live out, die of old age and people, they should stop making.
Dr. Josie
Them. You would be hard pressed to find a vet or anyone in the animal world that would not agree with.
Bobby Bones
You. I just feel like the dog is always.
Dr. Josie
Suffering. Yes.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. You're the one who told me that when Stanley is breathing hard, it's like us breathing through a.
Dr. Josie
Straw. Imagine breathe through a.
Bobby Bones
Straw. Imagine running. Yeah. And then coming in. The only way you can catch your breath is by holding your nose and breathing through a.
Dr. Josie
Straw.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. That.
Dr. Josie
Sucks. That.
Bobby Bones
Sucks.
Dr. Josie
He's. And he gets amazing care. I mean, you were lucky that, you know, you can do everything for him and he gets amazing care. But not everybody has that. So then you've got them that are really.
Bobby Bones
Suffering. I would recommend not getting a bulldog, as would I. And I love my bulldog and everybody knows that, but he got really sick to where his hair started to fall off in.
Dr. Josie
Spots. I mean, he lost 15, 20 pounds. His hair started falling out. It was. He had a really bad.
Bobby Bones
Autoimmune. That's kind of what it was.
Dr. Josie
Right? Yeah. And then we had to put him on steroids to help calm down the autoimmune portion of it. And then the steroids caused side effects which caused his hair to fall out. It was a whole.
Bobby Bones
Thing. I bet he lost a sixth of his.
Dr. Josie
Hair. He was looking like a.
Bobby Bones
Checkerboard. And it just. He's fully.
Dr. Josie
Back.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Healthy as can be. And.
Dr. Josie
He. Oh, he's.
Bobby Bones
Back. Yeah. And when he feels really good, he's kind of a.
Dr. Josie
Dick.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And when he feels really bad, he's kind of a.
Dr. Josie
Dick. He's not like he's never been. I mean, I know I'm always on Team Caitlyn, but. And I know she feels like he could be a dick, but he's always been so.
Bobby Bones
Sweet. I feel like he can be a dick. I know he can.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. I think especially when he tries to eat.
Bobby Bones
Poop. I think he loves to just dive bomb and poop outside. So we got to walk outside with.
Dr. Josie
Him. That is gross. And that's bad. He gets resource guardy over.
Bobby Bones
That. I agree. Bulldogs, I think, just in general, I think that's why I'm a little more understanding. I just think they're just stubborn. Big.
Dr. Josie
Time.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And sometimes I'll tell her, well, he. He can't hear. And then there'll be like one crumble if something hit the floor three rooms away. And he's.
Dr. Josie
Like. He's also pretty fast.
Bobby Bones
Still. He's still an athlete. Yeah, he's still an athlete. Still likes to play ball. He's six, A little over six now. What sucks is I also know the reality of bulldogs. Eight and a half or.
Dr. Josie
Nine. Yeah. I mean, I have a bulldog patient right now that's.
Bobby Bones
12. No.
Dr. Josie
Way. She's small, like a smaller slender one, but yeah, I mean, so they can get into their double digits for.
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This is the Bobbycast. We found Eller.
Well, we found her online that someone had found her. So we just went to their backyard and they were like, this dog's this much this old. And we're like, okay. We believe that they were lying to us. Yeah, she was way younger than that. But she was also on the street. She was by herself. So we took her anyway. She had a lot of aggression issues to work through because she. Even in her young life. And you can correct me on this, I feel like she was just in survival mode from when she was born for anything, probably even to.
Dr. Josie
Eat. Yeah, exactly. She had to compete for resources. Also, what people don't realize is when puppies are from two months to six months, the majority of how they will be is shaped in that time frame, the experiences that they go.
Bobby Bones
Through. She used to attack as a puppy. Puppy. She was a third of the size of Stanley and she would just go for him and he'd be like, what the crap? You ever see Scooby.
Dr. Josie
Doo? So.
Bobby Bones
Helpless. You ever see Scooby Doo, the show? You know, Scrappy Doo is like a tenth of the size. Come on. But that was alert. And then she got.
Dr. Josie
Bigger. She's a big.
Bobby Bones
Girl. And then she could take him out. And so what's been interesting is to watch for the most part, 95, how just stability. And I think this happens in humans too. And I think I've seen this as well with just my wife. Stability.
Creates far less aggression because you don't need to use that aggression because you don't need the.
Dr. Josie
Weapon. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Exactly. And consistency. We were so consistent with her. And Caitlyn was the one that was very consistent structure with all my Bradley, with Dusty, with Stanley. All my dogs are Lee's Ease. I was there all the time. I had them. I. But I was gone a lot when Caitlyn and I got Eller. And that's why Caitlyn's Eller's.
Dr. Josie
Alpha. Yeah. Yeah. Her and Ella are super.
Bobby Bones
Bonded. But I have seen a dog go from being absolutely evil to a loving dog. Ella still has her issues at Times. Obviously she wants to kill Stanley. She'll pop on Stanley sometimes. Resource guarding because food's involved. Yeah. Some of that is still like part of who she.
Dr. Josie
Is.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. She have husky in.
Bobby Bones
Her?
Dr. Josie
Yep.
Bobby Bones
Okay. She talks all the time. She'll be outside the window.
Calling.
Dr. Josie
The call of her.
Bobby Bones
People. What's your favorite breed of.
Dr. Josie
Dog? I love a good old fashioned mutt because they're healthy. They're healthy. Like, I don't know, I just love like something with a beard. Something that just looks like it came out of the forest. Like you couldn't even. Like you don't even know what breed it.
Bobby Bones
Is.
Dr. Josie
Why? I just like their personality. Like dogs that come from the shelter, I think they know they've been rescued and they're.
Bobby Bones
Grateful. Sometimes I need I tell those dogs, my dogs, you guys have no idea how good your life.
Dr. Josie
Is. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Totally. I'll say with English words to.
Dr. Josie
Them. Yeah. Oh.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like, Ella, I freaking got you out of someone's backyard. Do you know where you would be? Yeah, Stanley, you little.
Dr. Josie
Prince. He's a trust fund.
Bobby Bones
Baby. Big time. Yeah, like you're lucky you're not on a yacht on a coked out of your mind. Gonna die in a.
Dr. Josie
Year.
Amen. No, they know. They know I know they.
Bobby Bones
Know. You ever met Sarah.
Dr. Josie
McLachlan? No, but I hate that commercial. You ever met Sarah.
Bobby Bones
McLaughlin?
Dr. Josie
Yeah. And I.
Bobby Bones
Was. It was a long time ago. I have no real memory either way. I just think that would be cool for someone that worked with animals to meet the person who sings about.
Dr. Josie
Animals. She should come on my.
Bobby Bones
Podcast. That would be. Yeah, that would be an awesome Instagram picture. And the arms of an.
Dr. Josie
Angel. Oh my God, it's so.
Bobby Bones
Sad. Yeah. Because. But then they find the dogs like One Eyed Willie that they're for sure gonna.
Dr. Josie
Highlight. Yeah. With the one.
Bobby Bones
Tooth.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. Those are my kind of.
Bobby Bones
Dogs. Right out of the woods. With a.
Dr. Josie
Beard. Yeah, with a beard, one eye, no teeth, three.
Bobby Bones
Legs. How have you liked.
Dr. Josie
Podcasting? I've loved podcasting. It's been really fun. It's a lot more work, I think than people realize.
Bobby Bones
Though. What about.
Dr. Josie
It? That I didn't know because you.
Bobby Bones
Came from no background in any sort of media. What about it is more work.
Dr. Josie
I think just like coming up with the content. I mean you're pretty good at like spitballing. But for me I really have to think about like I'm running out of cases to talk about and what do the people want to hear, you know? So I think it's a lot of, like, figuring out what content to.
Bobby Bones
Talk about for me, what celebrities are known, that you're their vet. I don't want you to out anybody that you never said. But either you've said they've been on a podcast, they've been on Instagram with.
Dr. Josie
You. I do Thomas Rhett's pets. His wife Lauren's been on the podcast. They're.
Bobby Bones
Amazing. How many pets do they.
Dr. Josie
Have? They had. Oh, my gosh. We've had a bad year. They have three dogs. Two of them passed away this.
Bobby Bones
Year. Were they.
Dr. Josie
Old? Old. One had an adrenal gland tumor, and the other one had lymphoma. We had a bad year, but.
Yeah. So now we're down to one dog. Sure. That will change because Lauren's always adopting random things as they come. So, yeah, I do her. Who else is, like, kind of out? I try to, like, keep a low profile for some of them. Do Charlie Handsome's.
Bobby Bones
Dogs. So we've had Charlie Handsome on the podcast. Charlie Handsome, big songwriter, big producer for, like, Morgan Wallen. Morgan Wallen Post Malone. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm asking people that are already.
Dr. Josie
Out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. People know about.
Bobby Bones
Him. Since you did content, can we say the person you were with the other.
Dr. Josie
Day?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Kirk.
Dr. Josie
Hertry. Yeah. And his dog Peter, who's famous. Peter. So.
Bobby Bones
Famous.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. And his son Jake. Peter is beautiful. What a beautiful golden retriever. I was like, wow. And we put him in a backpack. I don't know if people know of the little chunk backpack, but a.
Bobby Bones
Golden retriever can fit in a.
Dr. Josie
Backpack. He fit in the backpack. And this is a big.
Bobby Bones
Hole. Kirk Herk street seems like the greatest guy. Don't know him. I don't know if I've ever met him. I don't think I do. But he seems just.
Dr. Josie
Lovely. It's because he's an Ohio state.
Bobby Bones
Grad. Ohio people are like.
Dr. Josie
Canadians. We are just.
Bobby Bones
Awesome. Just way nice that you think there's something.
Dr. Josie
Up. You're just not.
Bobby Bones
Sure. You're like, there's wire. What are they luring me.
Dr. Josie
Into?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Was he.
Dr. Josie
Cool? Yeah, they were so nice, all of.
Bobby Bones
Them. Any other celebrities that you've met that's been.
Dr. Josie
Out? I'm trying to think. Who doesn't want to keep a low.
Bobby Bones
Profile? No, no, it's. That's already been out there. Like.
Dr. Josie
Either. Oh, Mackenzie Porter take care of her.
Bobby Bones
Pets. I was thinking.
Dr. Josie
About.
And her and her husband now have a new Thelma and James. Have you heard their music? It's really.
Bobby Bones
Good. And her hair's.
Dr. Josie
Brown. Her hair is brown because she is on the Nashville 911 show. She plays a.
Bobby Bones
Doctor. Oh, I didn't know that. She's a real.
Dr. Josie
Role. Yeah, she's an amazing actress. She was on a.
Bobby Bones
Netflix. Yeah, no, I knew that. Yeah, she has a real role in that.
Dr. Josie
Show. Yeah, she's like. She signed for a bunch of.
Bobby Bones
Seasons. Oh, that's great for.
Dr. Josie
Her. Yeah, it's actually really cool. She was, like, showing me the cadaver that she, like, does surgery on. It's crazy. She's like. How do you say this.
Bobby Bones
Word? It's a real body. A real dead.
Dr. Josie
Body. It's a body. So they put the person down, like the live person, and they put a fake body on top. So you've got the person's head, and then there's like, a fake body that she has to go in and pretend like she's doing surgery on. It's.
Bobby Bones
Crazy. Okay, so it's a fake.
Dr. Josie
Cadaver. Yeah, fake.
Bobby Bones
Cadaver. Got.
Dr. Josie
It. Not a real.
Bobby Bones
One. Got.
Dr. Josie
It.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I didn't. I didn't know that. That show. I've not seen it. I hear it's so corny that it's.
Dr. Josie
Good. So cheesy. The first she texted me was like, oh, my God, this is embarrassing. Like, I can't believe it was, like, a little girl that got picked up by her kite. It.
Bobby Bones
Was. That's. That's the episode that people often say to me because I'm like, that show any good? They're like, it's terrible, but it's good. Because once you kind of spin beliefs, they're like, this kid gets sucked up with a.
Dr. Josie
Kite. You got to get past that. But she's an amazing actress. She's like a triple threat across the board. She's.
Bobby Bones
Awesome. Who's been your favorite podcast guest? Favorite favorites, too. Broad. Who's been the one that you enjoyed more than you thought you would? And maybe you had no consideration of even thinking you would? Who.
Dr. Josie
Knows? I did Victoria Fuller take care of her animals? She was on the Bachelor, and I didn't really know her. Do you know anyone from the.
Bobby Bones
Bachelor? I know Kaitlyn Bristow because she was just on. She's great. Let's see who Victoria Fuller.
Dr. Josie
Is. And I did not really know her prior. Like, we had met maybe once or twice, and I absolutely loved.
Bobby Bones
Her. I don't know her, but, yeah, seems.
Dr. Josie
Nice. She.
Bobby Bones
Is. Like, I would know from a picture, but she's with the Chris guy. Chris Soules in this picture. Was she on his season or.
Dr. Josie
Something. I don't know whose season she was on. Maybe.
Bobby Bones
Peter's. She's got it. All right.
Dr. Josie
Mike. That she was. She's.
Bobby Bones
Awesome. I love Investigate that Victoria Fuller. She was on Peter Weber.
Dr. Josie
Season.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Is she with Chris Souls now.
Dr. Josie
Though? I don't think.
Bobby Bones
So. You don't think.
Dr. Josie
So? No, because I'm trying to.
Bobby Bones
Matchmaker. Oh, here we go. Let me read you this. Bachelor Nations, Victoria Fuller and Chris Soules relationship.
Dr. Josie
Timeline.
Bobby Bones
Oh. The way they were from.
Dr. Josie
2022. Oh.
Bobby Bones
Wow. So I guess they were dating. They're not anymore. They briefly dated in.
Dr. Josie
2020.
Didn't know that, but yeah. She's amazing. I just. I didn't know what to expect, and I don't know that much about Bachelor Nation, and I just thought she was funny, and that's awesome. And there's a lot of bachelor people in.
Bobby Bones
Nashville. A lot of bachelor at parties here.
Dr. Josie
Too. Yeah, tell me about it. You were on Jason Tardix. I do his dog. You're on his.
Bobby Bones
Podcast. Oh, yeah. You do his dog, Teddy. Oh, you have to remember the dog's names, don't you? Do you keep all of them in your.
Dr. Josie
Phone? I remember every single pet. I remember their name. I remember what medication they're on. I do not remember. At least now I do, because I don't have that many clients. But in practice, I'd be like, oh, you're Fluffy's mom. I could not remember the humans names that I remember all the.
Bobby Bones
Animals. Do you ever have to turn in, like, cps, you see? And maybe not in your version you're doing now, but you see a dog that's mistreated, so you have to call and turn them.
Dr. Josie
In. Yep.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. That sucks.
Dr. Josie
Man. Dogs that we always suspected were part of, like, a fighting.
Rob Gronkowski
Ring. No.
Bobby Bones
Way. Like pit.
Dr. Josie
Bulls. Yeah, pit.
Bobby Bones
Bulls. Because you could see, like, marks, like.
Dr. Josie
Visible. Yeah. Bite wounds. We had. I.
Bobby Bones
Had. They would bring those dogs in to get fixed so they could fight.
Dr. Josie
Again. They.
Bobby Bones
Would.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. Bring them in for bites and stuff. We had rottweilers that were being bred somewhere, like maybe in South Nashville that were being, like, terribly bred, and they were coming in and dying of parvovirus, like, skin and bones. Like, a lot of really sad.
Bobby Bones
Stuff. It makes you. That's the stuff that angry. That's the stuff that I would really have trouble with. But also, I need you to not be as angry.
As my.
Animal.
Dr. Josie
Care.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I want you to be.
Dr. Josie
Mad. I'm mad at the.
Bobby Bones
People. Yeah. I want you to be mad at.
Dr. Josie
That.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But I need you to be numb a little bit.
Dr. Josie
Too. Totally.
Bobby Bones
Yes. Because you got to perform. If I cried on every news story that was sad, I would never get to a.
Dr. Josie
Show. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Totally. Okay. A couple more things before you go. Did you know there's a Logan's right over.
Dr. Josie
There? Is that a.
Bobby Bones
Roadhouse? I didn't know it. Saw it. Just saw it for the first time. I like Logan's. I didn't know we had one. So.
Dr. Josie
Close. I don't know if I've ever.
Bobby Bones
Been. Well, you took us somewhere I've never been. Last.
Dr. Josie
Night.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Dr. Josie
Yardbirds.
Bobby Bones
Doughbird. Well, it's pretty good.
There. No dairy free options. I think you saw me struggling last night. That's just.
Dr. Josie
She. You realize you're dairy free.
Bobby Bones
Now. I'm lactose intolerant, tolerant. I'm not dairy free. And I'm not. I'm not like, leading a charge like I poop my.
Dr. Josie
Pants. I know. I know about your poop problems. You and.
Bobby Bones
Stanley. But to be fair, I didn't poop in the.
Dr. Josie
Shower. That's why I think it might have been.
Bobby Bones
You. Here's the.
Dr. Josie
Problem. A little nugget. And you didn't.
Bobby Bones
Realize. I don't want to have to say this, but there are no.
Dr. Josie
Nuggets. That's the thing also. That's what you have going for.
Bobby Bones
You. No, no. If I eat dairy, there are no nuggets. And that was a nugget. That's how you knew it.
Dr. Josie
Wasn'T. Yeah, it was.
Bobby Bones
Firm.
You took us to dough birds and all. I were shishito peppers and wings with nose. I couldn't have any.
Dr. Josie
Sauce. I had mozzarella.
Bobby Bones
Sticks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was the whole.
Dr. Josie
Thing. Lots of.
Bobby Bones
Dairy.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. Wait, that's.
Bobby Bones
Sad. I love.
Dr. Josie
Dairy. Can we go to Logan's and get non.
Bobby Bones
Dairy? Oh, I'm sure they have steak and.
Dr. Josie
Broccoli. We should go when we get back from the.
Bobby Bones
Holidays. Anyway, I just drove by, I was like, we have a Logan's. I had no idea. I like.
Dr. Josie
Logan's. I am dying. I have never been to Logan's. Is it kind of like a.
Bobby Bones
Outback? Yeah, similar. You ever been to.
Dr. Josie
Applebee's? Love Applebee's. $5 appetizers. What's the place where the rolls are delicious? Is.
Bobby Bones
That. Well, there's a couple good roll places. Texas Roadhouse has good.
Dr. Josie
Rolls. I love their cinnamon butter.
And their cactus.
Bobby Bones
Onion. Red Lobster. They have. They have good. They have good bread. The cheddar biscuits. I think the cheddar Bay biscuits whenever Charlie's when I. I never been to no.
Dr. Josie
Charlie's. I think they might be closed. But they have delicious biscuit.
Bobby Bones
Butter. Is that regional? Because I feel like I've seen a couple o' Charlie's, but I don't know that we had o' Charlie's in.
Dr. Josie
Arkansas. I in Indiana. We definitely had O Charlie's, but I don't know about. Yeah, maybe it's.
Bobby Bones
Regional. We used to go to Red Lobster once a year and it was our fancy one time a year deal. Like that was the big dinner every year. I look forward to it so.
Dr. Josie
Much. Put the apron.
Bobby Bones
On.
I don't think.
Dr. Josie
So. Did you know we're getting an in and.
Bobby Bones
Out? Yeah, my wife showed me a picture on Instagram of it almost being.
Dr. Josie
Done. Yeah, I just drove by.
Bobby Bones
It. So that means I won't get that in and out for about 18 months because I will not go in the lines.
Dr. Josie
Crazy.
Bobby Bones
Okay. It's going to take about that long to normalize.
Dr. Josie
Here. I don't know that I've really. I've had in and out once, but I wasn't that blown.
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And we're back on the bobbycast. Here's my official take on In n Out. Okay, it tastes really.
Dr. Josie
Good. It.
Bobby Bones
Does. But the hype, I guess I'm asking, makes it taste less.
Dr. Josie
Good. Yeah, you expect it to be.
Bobby Bones
Like because everyone's like in and out freaking rocks. If nobody told you anything about it and was like, let's stop at this burger place that looks kind of like a chain but maybe not so.
Dr. Josie
Chainy, then you'd be blown.
Bobby Bones
Away. You would be like, oh, this is a really fresh tasting burger. This is great. But Everybody's pledging their allegiance to In N Out, and all of a sudden you go, it's like the movie Old School. I really like the movie, but everybody told me how good it was and that it was the greatest comedy ever. There was no way it could have possibly lived up to the hype. And so as good as Old School is and was, even if it's on tbs, it's still funny. It never, to me, will be as great as it could have been because people ruined it by over hyping.
Dr. Josie
It. Okay, that's.
Bobby Bones
Fair. That's what In N Out is. But their fries are super fresh. I like in and out. And if you can remove the super positive stigma.
In N Out's great. Okay, Mike, your thoughts on in and Out. I really like it. Back when I ate meat, I remember when they first started coming to Texas, I went and waited in a long line for it. So I think, like, waiting a long time for it makes it taste.
Dr. Josie
Better. That's fair, because you're starving by the time you get up.
Bobby Bones
There. People that aren't from the south and it's definitely spread more had the same kind of feeling about Chick Fil A when Chick Fil A was going up into, like, the Northeast, and. And everybody's like, fletcher, it's.
Dr. Josie
Awesome. And then people are like, it's just such.
Bobby Bones
A. And then you're like, oh, no, it's good. It's good. But now it tastes worse because you just told me how awesome is going to.
Dr. Josie
Be. Yeah, I get what you're.
Bobby Bones
Saying. Yeah. So in and out. In and out is really.
Dr. Josie
Good.
Bobby Bones
Okay. In comparison to how good everybody says it is. In and out's.
Dr. Josie
Fine. Okay. But anyway, I'm gonna set my expectations.
Bobby Bones
Accordingly. Have no.
Dr. Josie
Expectations.
Bobby Bones
Okay. But there's a Logan's.
I was like, a hidden Logan's. I didn't even know was like, right. Right down the.
Dr. Josie
Road. I wonder what we'll chat about tonight. And this was not. Not on my.
Bobby Bones
List. What did you think we'd talk.
Dr. Josie
About? Just, I don't know. Kind of like.
Bobby Bones
This. A couple things I wanted to talk about. Your.
Dr. Josie
Podcast.
Bobby Bones
Yep. And we talked about before you came in. And then it is coming.
Dr. Josie
Back. I'm getting a lot of people asking me.
Bobby Bones
Wow. Okay. Flex. Go.
Dr. Josie
Ahead. You can't extremely.
Bobby Bones
Faint. You can't go anywhere without people.
Dr. Josie
Asking. No. People are stopping me for my autograph. They're like, when is season four coming? I'm like.
Bobby Bones
Relax. So season four is coming. Have you done it? Have you done any episodes I've.
Dr. Josie
Done one for the four people that have asked. It is coming. I was so sick my first trimester. I.
Bobby Bones
Couldn'T. Oh, did you do it while you're.
Dr. Josie
Sick? I know. I just filmed my first episode like a week ago with the little chunk guy that was here that we went and met. Peter Herb street with the little chunk guy. That's Chonk is the name of the brand he.
Bobby Bones
Owns. I was going to say that felt.
Dr. Josie
Mean.
You know, that little chunky guy, he's actually very, very.
Bobby Bones
Skinny. That's the.
Dr. Josie
Brand. That's the brand. Little Chonk.
But he has a very famous corgi. She's got like 2 million followers on Instagram, and everyone follows her. And he rides around New York with her in his backpack. And now he makes a backpack that he.
Bobby Bones
Sells. Oh, that's.
Dr. Josie
Cool. It's very.
Bobby Bones
Cool. And that's why he was.
Dr. Josie
Here. That's why he was here. We did some content where he's coming out with a joint supplement that actually gets my stamp of approval. So I'm going to help him market it. It's veterinarian.
Bobby Bones
Approved. When does next season come.
Dr. Josie
Out? It'll probably come out like early next.
Bobby Bones
Year. January, February and so. But there's three whole seasons that are up.
Dr. Josie
Now. Three whole seasons in the vet's.
Bobby Bones
Office. And you've had some really cool guests because people love to talk about their.
Dr. Josie
Dogs. They love.
Bobby Bones
It. There are a couple of things that people love to talk about. Their fantasy football teams when they have one. Their golf game. Just dude, Specifically love to my golf game and pets. And their.
Dr. Josie
Pets. I had Justin Anderson on. That was one that I just thought about. And I. I love him. If you're listening, Justin, I love.
Bobby Bones
You. I know Justin from kind of knowing.
Dr. Josie
Kristen. Yes, it's Kristen Cavalier, his best friend. And, yeah, I thought he was like, the funniest person alive. We had the best.
Bobby Bones
Time. You ever met.
Dr. Josie
Kristen. I have not, but I've heard she's really nice.
Bobby Bones
Too. So I have add unfair expectations of our meeting where I thought it was gonna be terrible because somebody that grows up young, famous, reality, pretty. You're like.
Like, I'll do it. And we were working together. We were doing like a television intro thing together. It was actually me, her and the Miz. Do you know who the Miz.
Dr. Josie
Is? The.
Bobby Bones
Wrestler. The wrestler.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. And so that is an interesting.
Bobby Bones
Combination. Yeah. And I was with her before the Miz. She could not have been nicer. And what was the greatest, it wasn't even about me. So Much. She could not have been nicer to Caitlin, who was with.
Dr. Josie
Me. That's.
Bobby Bones
Huge.
She went out of her way to be. To. To like, talk to.
Dr. Josie
Caitlyn. That says a.
Bobby Bones
Lot. It was all. It was the greatest. She could have said nothing to me, had been super nice to my wife, and I'd been like, that chick.
Dr. Josie
Rocks.
Bobby Bones
Totally. So I don't know her. Know.
Dr. Josie
Her.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But between. How. Because we were together for like, an.
Dr. Josie
Hour.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Between that and how nice she.
Dr. Josie
Was to Caitlyn and she lives, like, out. Like, she's not really in the.
Bobby Bones
Mix.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. You can just like. I think she's pretty down to earth and.
Bobby Bones
My. In. I guess not our. But my trainer. But you did work out with some of the disciples. His. His.
Dr. Josie
Crew. Oh, my God. It kicked my ass. Can I say.
Bobby Bones
That? Well, you said like, eight other ones, so I think she's fine now. There's like, a time limit on when you can't say it. Klug trains her and says just wonderful things about her, like, as a.
Dr. Josie
Person. Yeah. So, Kevin, if you're listening, I feel like he's a good judge.
Bobby Bones
Character. He is not.
Dr. Josie
Listening. He doesn't listen.
Bobby Bones
To. There's no chance. Here's the thing about Kevin Klug. Somebody tag him in. This. Kevin Klug has been my trainer now for probably five or six years. I'm not sure. Covid kind of screwed up my mind in years.
That's a very intimate time with someone. Because you spend an hour and you're just one on.
Dr. Josie
One.
Bobby Bones
Yes. And it's not pleasurable for.
Dr. Josie
Me. Me.
Bobby Bones
Either. But there's talking. And after you work out for a few months, then a few years, you know a lot of things about each other just because you're.
Dr. Josie
There.
Bobby Bones
Yep. So this intimate relationship forms. We would have, like, Christmas parties at our house. We had a big. He comes like. He then becomes a friend. We would go do stuff where we go shoot. Like at Auburn, we'd go shoot. Too much access. Hey, you want to come? Can you get a few hours? Yeah, let's go. He'd come with us, get on the plane, come back. Like, he would be a friend. And then we'd work out one day and he'd be like, hey, your show's on in the morning.
And I'd be like, yeah.
Dr. Josie
Man.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. He goes, oh, I was flipping through and I heard you, and I was like, you know what I do? He goes, yeah. I just don't.
Dr. Josie
Think. I don't think about.
Bobby Bones
It. Yeah. I don't Think about.
Dr. Josie
That. But that's why we love him. No, I like people like.
Bobby Bones
That. I agree. But he'd be like, yeah, and this has happened a couple times, and I'll kind of end on this. He'll be like, oh, I heard that segment. You guys are kind of funny. Like, surprised. You're like, oh, like, we're literally together all the.
Dr. Josie
Time. We've been doing this forever. What do you.
Bobby Bones
Think? I played the Opry a couple. Couple weeks ago, and so it was me and Eddie, and sometimes I go by myself. Sometimes I'll bring Eddie out and we'll do raging idiot stuff. And.
Laney had played before.
Laney's lead singer sister, Sarah is my wife's best.
Dr. Josie
Friend.
Sarah is Caitlyn's best.
Bobby Bones
Friend. Yeah. So Sarah's best.
Dr. Josie
Friend.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Her brother's lead singer.
Dr. Josie
Laney. Yes. Oh, yeah. Sarah, the blonde that lives in California. And we'll come cut Caitlyn's.
Bobby Bones
Hair. Yeah. From.
Dr. Josie
Oklahoma. Yes, yes, yes.
Bobby Bones
Yes. So they're Oklahoma people. She lives in.
Dr. Josie
La.
Bobby Bones
Yes. Oh, I got another crazy story about this, but. So Sarah is in town because her brother's playing the Opry for the first.
Dr. Josie
Time. Got.
Bobby Bones
It. And they went to.
Dr. Josie
Belmont.
Bobby Bones
Yep. And then moved out to LA and started to make.
Dr. Josie
It. And they're cousins with Abby Smyers from.
Bobby Bones
Jersey. Sarah.
Dr. Josie
Is.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Sarah's cousins. Abby. Yes.
Dr. Josie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Okay. So they're here. And we didn't do this on purpose, but they were playing, and I was playing the same night. And so Sarah was at the house the night before because her and Caitlin are best. Freaking best friends. And then I was like, I see tomorrow at the Opry. Great. So Sarah stayed side stage after her brother finished to watch me play, and I came aft off the side stage, and she's just, like. She was like, just so confused. I was like, what's up? She goes, you were so.
Dr. Josie
Funny. You are really.
Bobby Bones
Funny. No, but I was like, no, no, no. Why are you surprised? Like, am I not just generally funny? I mean, like, it's a different. I'm having to channel it a different way. But she was like, I've just never seen you like that. I'm like, I say funny stuff all the.
Dr. Josie
Time. You're like, I'm.
Bobby Bones
Hilarious. I'm a barrel of, like, funny, witty.
Dr. Josie
Things. Yeah, but you can't do that because you're gonna be, like, in and.
Bobby Bones
Out. Oh, I don't.
Dr. Josie
Care. You can't say that. You're too.
Bobby Bones
Funny. I've already. I've already. I'm A plateau at this.
Dr. Josie
Point. But when you're on stage, I will say, like, going to your live shows, it's like you're really natural at it. And when you're singing the Hobby Lobby Bobby song, it is.
Bobby Bones
Hilarious. Well, thank.
Dr. Josie
You. You're.
Bobby Bones
Welcome. Quick story about Sarah. Well, so Abby. Well, the whole thing. So I was doing Dancing with the Stars. I needed a haircut while I was in.
Dr. Josie
California. Oh, the finals are.
Bobby Bones
Tonight. Yeah. By the time this airs, it'll been a.
Dr. Josie
Week. I already.
Bobby Bones
Won. We're not.
Dr. Josie
Live.
Bobby Bones
Okay. This is the one time she thinks she's live.
Dr. Josie
Mike.
No, they're like, we have to edit out so many cuss words. This can't.
Bobby Bones
Be. Nah, you're good on cuss words.
So we're doing. I'm doing the show. I need a haircut. They do everything else, but they don't cut.
Dr. Josie
Hair.
Bobby Bones
Okay. And so I call my management team and I'm like, hey, I need a haircut in la. Like, do you know anybody? So they asked somebody at red light. Red light's like, hey, I have a friend. Her friend was Abby Smyers. She's like, abby Smyers has a relative. Go and let her cut your hair. So I go and I get my.
Dr. Josie
Haircut. And you did not know Caitlyn.
Bobby Bones
Then? No, it was. Yeah. A year before I met Caitlin, I sat and Sarah cut my hair a year before I ever met.
Dr. Josie
Caitlin. And then T minus two or three years later, she was a bridesmaid in your.
Bobby Bones
Wedding. Tell me that's not.
Dr. Josie
Crazy. That is.
Bobby Bones
Crazy. That's pretty.
Dr. Josie
Crazy. That's.
Bobby Bones
Cool. Did.
Dr. Josie
You. Were you like, oh, this girl's cool. When she was cutting your hair, or were you, like, so busy you.
Bobby Bones
Didn'T. I wasn't busy. I was just really tired when I did that show because I was doing the radio show, dancing and coming back and forth and touring a little bit.
Dr. Josie
Too. You're like a.
Bobby Bones
Zombie. Yeah. I'm always nice, but I don't know that I really had the capacity to, like, create a new friendship. But it was a crazy story. That is a crazy story that Sarah was. Who cut my hair when I was in la, randomly through being set up and then. And then there she has side of the opera stage going, I can't believe you're.
Dr. Josie
Funny. You're like, I can't believe you could cut.
Bobby Bones
Hair. Well, yeah. Yeah, exactly. She does cut hair at the house sometimes. She'd cut my hair at the.
Dr. Josie
House. Yeah, I know. She'll, like, come do Caitlyn's here.
Bobby Bones
Randomly. This has been enjoyable.
Has it been for.
Dr. Josie
You? Yeah, I've had a.
Bobby Bones
Blast. We've done an.
Dr. Josie
Hour. Yeah, no, it's been awesome. I could do this all.
Bobby Bones
Night. There's the Logan's right down the road I'm really anxious to get.
Dr. Josie
To. Now I'm getting.
Bobby Bones
Hungry. I got a reservation. I got a.
Dr. Josie
6:15. That is not so. You know, they have a.
Bobby Bones
Logan's. You guys check out Josie's podcast. It's called in the vet's office with Dr. Josie on Instagram. Dr.
Dr. Josie
Josie. Dr. Josie.
Bobby Bones
Vet. Dr. Josie, vet. Yeah, that's.
Dr. Josie
Cool. Holler. On the podcast, we answer questions that people dm. So if you have any. Any questions about your pets, feel free to ask.
Bobby Bones
Me. Do you like the change up going and being a concierge vet.
Dr. Josie
Now? I will never go.
Bobby Bones
Back. Really? Were you worried that it wouldn't Love it.
Dr. Josie
Take. I was. Remember I called.
Bobby Bones
You.
Dr. Josie
Yeah. I was so worried. I was like, hey, can you, like, look at my business plan? Like, do you think people are gonna do this? Like, because I just feel like you're my customer and, like my target customer, and you're. And I just wanted to know what you thought. And you were like, no, it's gonna do good. And we are so.
Bobby Bones
Busy. That's.
Dr. Josie
Awesome. Hiring another vet, which is awesome. So. But yes, I was worried and it was kind of crickets at first, but, you know, once things get going and people start talking and a word of.
Bobby Bones
Mouth. Were we your first.
Dr. Josie
Customer? You guys were definitely. Yeah. If not first top. First three. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Definitely. Did you ever have.
Dr. Josie
MySpace?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Dr. Josie
Okay. My top.
Bobby Bones
Three. Yeah, that's what I. That's what I think of, like, if we move, where are we? In the little.
Dr. Josie
Group? No, no, no, you're right. You and Tom. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
We'Re. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you guys follow Josie. Check out in the vet's office. She's got what, like 30 episodes or.
Dr. Josie
Something? Yeah, a lot.
Bobby Bones
And. All right, that's all Josie. Thank.
Dr. Josie
You. You're.
Bobby Bones
Welcome. Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production.
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Bobby Bones
All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop.
Rob Gronkowski
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Bobby Bones
Lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody showing that school.
Dr. Josie
Pride.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah. Like this.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah. Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.
Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter.
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Dr. Josie
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Bobby Bones
Owners. The big thing about working at tech is that it's ever evolving, ever.
Dr. Josie
Changing. Everyone's a.
Bobby Bones
Rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing. So what I'm really excited about is to be part of that change. So listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your.
Dr. Josie
Podcasts.
This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Dr. Josie, Veterinarian & podcast host ("In The Vet’s Office")
This episode dives deep into the modern world of veterinary care with Dr. Josie, discussing the rise of pet cloning, the emotional and ethical complexity of putting animals down, the realities of running a concierge vet practice in Nashville, and a wide array of colorful anecdotes about pet ownership, celebrity clients, and life changes. The tone is candid, witty, and empathetic, with a mix of humor and thought-provoking insight into animal care and human relationships with pets.
Dr. Josie's Firsthand Account with a Cloned Dog
Ethical Dilemma
Euthanasia: The Emotional Toll
Dealing with Animal Aggression & Regional Realities
Change and Challenge in New Cities
Transition to Concierge Veterinary Practice
Star-Studded Pets
Podcasting Behind the Scenes
Bulldogs: Adoration vs. Ethics
Mutts and Rescue Advocacy
Canine Psychology and Transformation
On the realities of pet cloning:
"The clone is an identical replica. Looks wise, but personality wise, completely different."
— Dr. Josie (02:38, 20:06)
On letting go of a beloved pet:
"I'm so grateful that I was so sad...because had I not been so sad, none of that would have mattered for 12 or 13 years."
— Bobby (18:34–18:52)
On the value of rescue dogs:
"Dogs that come from the shelter, I think they know they've been rescued and they're grateful."
— Dr. Josie (54:38)
On bulldogs and breed suffering:
"You would be hard pressed to find a vet or anyone in the animal world that would not agree with you."
— Dr. Josie (45:50–45:55)
On making big moves and life changes:
“Going to a new city is tough…I went by myself and just sat on my thumb when I wasn’t at work.”
— Bobby (31:18–31:26)
For more: Check out Dr. Josie’s podcast, "In the Vet’s Office," and follow her on Instagram @drjosievet