BOBBYCAST - Kane Brown on Losing $10M, Family Trauma & Picking His Top 5 Songs

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show — Bobbycast

Episode: Kane Brown on Losing $10M, Family Trauma & Picking His Top 5 Songs

Release Date: March 24, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Kane Brown

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Episode Overview

In this open, honest, and deeply personal episode of the Bobbycast, Kane Brown sits down with Bobby Bones to discuss the rollercoaster ride of his career and personal life. The conversation touches on industry missteps, profound childhood trauma, family hardships, and hard-won triumphs. Kane shares untold stories about signing a disastrous early contract, reconciling with his challenging upbringing, learning to navigate fame, the delicate challenge of raising privileged children, and his renewed sense of purpose—all while maintaining his signature humility and candor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Early Industry Mistakes & Losing $10 Million

• Kane opens up about signing a predatory management and label deal in his career's early stages, leading to losing millions.
• Quote ([02:27]) Kane: “I just now redid my deal to make it kind of fair, like, just now.”
• Kane details sleeping in his car, being forced into a 50/50 deal ("not typical"), and later learning the normal split is closer to 85/15.
• Quote ([10:51]) Kane: “10 million. I asked my business manager. I got screwed out of that.”
• He explains being forced to sign with Sony due to contract technicalities and only recently renegotiating a fair deal.
• Despite the loss, Kane maintains a grateful outlook:
  Quote ([10:56]) Kane: “Because I'm blessed with what I have. You know, I could be still at FedEx.”

2. Family Background & Traumatic Childhood

• Kane shares his earliest memory: being thrown across a room by his stepdad for bedwetting.
  Quote ([28:22]) Kane: "My earliest memory... being thrown across the room... by my stepdad, like, Abuse type. I peed the bed."
• Discusses cycles of addiction within his family, his mother’s past struggles and recovery, and how he supported her through tough love.
• Talks about his biracial identity and confusion about race growing up—didn’t understand he was biracial until bullied in school.
  Quote ([41:14]) Kane: "I had one black friend... I just thought he stayed in the sun longer than me."
• Reveals his dad has been in prison since 1996 and how he's attempted to help his extended family—despite mixed responses.

3. Parenting & Breaking the Cycle

• Kane and Bobby candidly discuss the challenge of raising children with privilege, contrasting it with their own upbringings (poverty/adversity).
• Kane tries to teach his kids about "the real world" and shares a proud moment when his daughter had to wait in line at Disney for the first time.
• Expresses his fear of failing to instill grit and resilience in his kids.

4. Therapy, Growth, and Mental Health

• Kane reveals he’s started therapy for the first time:
  Quote ([63:12]) Kane: “He made me pick a stuffed animal... he said, now, as a kid, what would you tell your older self now? And bro, I lost it.”
• Both discuss the difficulties of expressing vulnerability due to their formative environments and reflect on learning self-acceptance.
  Bobby ([64:38]): “If I were a kid, I would think I was cool... I think that’s real growth.”
• Both discuss the impact of online negativity and learning to separate public perception from self-worth.

5. Career, Creativity & Authorship

• Kane shares his excitement about finally feeling creative control in his career, after years of restriction.
• He describes working with his manager Martha Earls, the lessons he’s learned, and the importance of trust.
• Talks about his upcoming new album and single “Woman”—how trusting his instincts reignited his passion.
• Quote ([73:01]) Kane: “That I haven't felt in... all those years I've been telling you about... I just lost it. I couldn't find... Hit me with that song, and it just gave me the fire back under me to start writing again.”

6. Music, Performing, and Collaborations

• Bobby challenges Kane to name his personal Top 5 Kane Brown songs:
  • “Miles on It”
  • “Bury Me in Georgia”
  • “Thank God”
  • “Learning”
  • “One Thing Right”
• Talks about collaborating with his wife (Katelyn Brown), her anxieties performing, and achieving a No. 1 song as a couple—second only to Tim and Faith.
• Details development of his Nashville bar—a unique place on Broadway with Miami-inspired spaces, and an open, hands-on approach.

7. Fun & Lighthearted Moments

• Bobby credits Kane’s humble approach with inspiring him to buy a Lamborghini Urus, not as a status symbol but as a reward for hard work ([18:53]).
• They bond over similarities in sports and nutrition, joking about friendly competition and their differences on social media persona.
• The conversation takes a detour into conspiracy theories about Jim Carrey and celebrity impersonation—a playful aside showing their rapport.
• They exchange Mount Rushmore picks for “funniest people alive.” Kane’s: Will Ferrell, Gary Owen, Jim Carrey, and a tie between Eddie Murphy and Kevin Hart.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Kane (on forgiving industry betrayal):
  “I'm blessed with what I have. You know, I could be still at FedEx...” ([10:56])

• On family adversity:
  “If I just give her [my mom] money, then she's just gonna go and buy the stuff that's hurting her.” ([33:28])

• On childhood innocence regarding race:
  “I just thought he stayed in the sun longer than me.” ([41:14])

• On therapy breakthroughs:
  “He made me pick a stuffed animal... as a kid, what would you tell your older self now? And bro, I lost it.” ([63:12])

• On new creative control:
  “When I first got started, I followed my gut. Like, my gut is what got me where I'm at today.” ([73:01])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Kane discusses industry deal & losing $10M | 02:27–11:13 | | Meeting his manager, Martha Earls | 05:04–06:59 | | On being forced to sign with Sony | 09:08–10:32 | | Insights on parenting and raising privileged kids| 25:11–28:17 | | Kane’s earliest traumatic memory | 28:22–28:45 | | Relationship with mother, addiction, and support| 33:28–35:07 | | Therapy, self-acceptance, vulnerability | 62:01–64:38 | | Kane’s Top 5 favorite songs | 51:05–51:49 | | Story behind “Woman” single | 70:33–73:01 | | Funniest people alive conversation | 58:33–61:21 |

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Flow, Tone & Takeaways

The episode masterfully balances raw, emotional storytelling with lighthearted banter and industry insight. Kane’s openness about industry pitfalls, childhood trauma, and inner work provides depth, while his humility, humor, and chemistry with Bobby create a welcoming and relatable atmosphere.

Listeners will come away moved by Kane’s resilience, inspired by his growth, and with new appreciation for the man and the artist behind the hits.

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For Further Listening

• Kane Brown’s new single: “Woman”
• Top 5 Kane Brown songs (see list above)
• Watch for Kane Brown’s Nashville bar opening Memorial Day Weekend 2026
• Upcoming Bobbycast episodes for more conversations on country music, grit, and personal growth

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Transcript

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[Kane Brown]

I just now redid my deal to make it kind of fair, like, just now.

[Bobby Bones]

No way. How much money do you think you've given away that you probably shouldn't have had to give away?

[Kane Brown]

10 million.

[Bobby Bones]

The guest on today's Bobby cast is Kane Brown. I love Kane. Known him for a while. He's got so many massive songs. Heaven, what ifs. One Mississippi. He's got 13 number ones. He's got new music on the way. He's got a song called Woman that just came out. I hope you check that out. He's got a bar on Broadway here in Nashville called Kane Brown's on Broadway. We talk about that. He's even acting. And so his first movie, the Token Groomsman with Taylor Lautner, which is pretty cool considering he first blew up posting cover songs on Facebook. He's a husband, a dad of three. He's a friend of mine. Here he is, Kane Brown.

[Kane Brown]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Good to see you, buddy.

[Kane Brown]

Good to see you.

[Bobby Bones]

Couple things. Did you eat a Tres Amigos when you were a kid?

[Kane Brown]

I love Trace Amigos.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I've heard it's pretty good. One of my friends here was like, first thing I want you to ask Kane, did he eat Tres Amigos as a kid?

[Kane Brown]

I thought, is Tres Amigos not only a Chattanooga thing?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. I've never seen Trace Amigos.

[Kane Brown]

So. Yeah, they must be from Chattanooga then.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that.

[Kane Brown]

That's the only place I've seen it, but it's fire.

[Bobby Bones]

Was it a frequent for you?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, it's pretty much like after every football, baseball game or practice, we would go to Tres Amigos.

[Bobby Bones]

Now we're in the middle of the episode, but I do hear your manager outside. Yeah, she's the only one I would let come in during a recording. Come in, Come in. And they left.

[Kane Brown]

Oh, she's calling me now.

[Bobby Bones]

Dancer, we're on. We're live here. We've never.

[Kane Brown]

Hello. Are you in the back building? Yeah, I'm in the back building. In the room on the left. Yeah. Did you just walk in? Yeah. Bobby said you're the only person that he would let walk in.

[Bobby Bones]

So during a live.

[Kane Brown]

During live.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So come in. Yeah, there she is. We hear you. Come on in. Come in.

[Kane Brown]

We're in the middle.

[Bobby Bones]

Come in. Yeah, we're in the middle of the episode. Yeah, sit down. I promise you, I literally said to Kate. And we usually. Sometimes we don't even allow people in here. But I said, you're the only person I would ever allow to come in

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[Bobby Bones]

How we doing?

[Kane Brown]

Sorry. I totally ruined the entire flow of the entire.

[Bobby Bones]

This is the flow. You have not ruined anything. We are still rolling. Everybody watching on Netflix is like, what's happening? I want to. I want to ask you a question about your manager.

[Kane Brown]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I think this is interesting because I think I didn't know what a manager did until I moved here and was like, had stuff happening. And they're like, you need a manager.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm like, what does that even mean? Like, what does a manager do for you?

[Kane Brown]

What doesn't she do? She does everything. Yeah. I mean, literally everything. Everything other than create the music.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're not in, like, witness protection. Right. Okay. What's your manager's name?

[Kane Brown]

Martha Earls.

[Bobby Bones]

And so how did you meet Martha?

[Kane Brown]

So I met Martha through this guy. Well, I met her through Jay Frank, who has passed away now. But he originally found me. Well, this other guy, Sean Pace, found me on Facebook, and he worked for Jay Frank. It's a crazy story. I was about to have a falling out with him. I told him they basically gave up on me, and I told him, I'm about to leave, yada, yada, yada. And they were like, well, what can we do to get you to stay? And he had introduced me to Martha at one point, and I said, the only way that I will stay with you is if I work with Martha. So he transferred me to Martha, and we've been working together ever since.

[Bobby Bones]

But what does that then mean? Because was she this big, fancy manager with. With huge clients?

[Kane Brown]

No, no. She. She had worked with an artist before, and she's. It's so weird that she's right there.

[Bobby Bones]

I know, but she deserved. She came in late. So, yeah, we're. We're openly going.

[Kane Brown]

But she. She had been in the business for a long time. She knew a lot of people in the industry. She was so sweet. When I first met her, I didn't know anything about her. Whenever I said I wanted to work with her, she just seemed engaged. And if. Jay Frank was also well known in Nashville. So I was like, if he's introducing me to her, she's obviously can do something. And then our career has just been thriving ever since.

[Bobby Bones]

So is that, like, the early strategy of how to make you a legitimate recording artist? Did you have a label? Like, was she involved in that process? Does the manager help do that.

[Kane Brown]

So I was. That's another thing I was kind of forced to sign to my label. And also nobody knows this either. Yeah, I can go down a rabbit hole.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm anxious for all the holes.

[Kane Brown]

Netflix. Yeah, I've been waiting. You know, I'm just now starting to feel comfortable about talking about things.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I mean, I feel like I know you and love you outside of this, but, yeah, I don't know this. So I'll sit back and enjoy the show.

[Kane Brown]

All right, let's get it. So just normal kid trying to make it on Facebook, eventually go viral. Sean Pace, the guy I was just talking about, eventually finds me. I don't remember what comes first. He signs me to. I'm just gonna say his name. He signs me to or he introduces me to. So I'm sleeping in my car and all kinds of stuff just to work with this guy. Where? In Atlanta. So he's.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're down there?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I'm sleeping in my Honda. I'm driving all the way down there. I'm living in an apartment up here. So still I was making itunes money, but I couldn't afford to just get a hotel and all that stuff. So going back and forth, he introduced me to Jay Frank. I signed a management deal with Jay, but I'm still going down to see. Just to work on music and stuff because he wants to. He's hungry. Anyway, he signs me to a deal and it's 50 50. But I was just so excited to get signed that I couldn't wait. I didn't have anybody. I didn't have my mom. I didn't have my dad on my side, so I just signed a 5050 deal.

[Bobby Bones]

Now explain why that's not typical. 50 50. What's a normal deal?

[Kane Brown]

Honestly, I couldn't even tell you. I couldn't even tell you. I just. What is a normal deal?

[Bobby Bones]

It's like. Yeah, it's like. It's like 85, 15, right?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, but for him, I don't even. I don't even know what I signed for him, though. I just knew he was in the industry. Yeah, it was terrible.

[Bobby Bones]

It feels like one of the boy band deals from back in the 90s when they didn't know what they were signing. Honestly, it was awful.

[Kane Brown]

And it literally killed my career. Like, tens of millions of dollars that I have not got.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, how did. How so? Because.

[Kane Brown]

Because he's. He. He got it for so long. Like, I was forced to sign to Sony.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're even forced to sign with A label? Because was he, like, attached to the label?

[Kane Brown]

He was attached to L A Reid, and L A Reid said no to me whenever he. So once I signed, start shopping me around to different labels. Once I went viral, every label. I wasn't viral yet. When I signed, I had, like, I was getting 5,000, 10,000 likes, literally something. When I signed with him, like, my. The next day, my social just blow up. Blew up. He even thought he was like, bro, you're buying these. These are fake. I said, I promise you this is not fake. So then every label, New York, L.A. nashville, everybody's coming at me. He showed me to L A Reid, Larry Reid said no. So he thinks it's free game. Well, his contract that he has with L A Reid says, L A Reid gets first look. So then once I actually went viral, L.A. reid came back and said, no, you have to sign him.

[Bobby Bones]

But he already said no.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, he already said no, but.

[Bobby Bones]

But now it's yes.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, now it's yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Because there's some virility to your art.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So now you're stuck. You're with that label.

[Kane Brown]

Yes. And I love Sony. This is not against Sony. I love Sony. I was forced to sign with Sony. They've been good to me, but they've also. It's just been. It's been so long. I just now. I'm just now getting. I just now redid my deal to make it kind of fair, like, just now.

[Bobby Bones]

No way.

[Kane Brown]

That's why I've been worried my. My whole career, because I'm like, I'm not getting what I should. And if it was to go away today, I think I could be fine. But I don't have what I think a lot of people think that I have.

[Bobby Bones]

How much money do you think you've given away that you probably shouldn't have had to give away?

[Kane Brown]

10 million. I asked my business manager. I've got screwed out of that.

[Bobby Bones]

How do you not stay angry at that?

[Kane Brown]

Because I'm blessed with what I have. You know, I could be still at FedEx. I can, you know, support my family. We would be living a little bit different life. I would be able to give a little bit more away, you know, but it is what it is. God's got a plan for me.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd have to do a lot of praying. I'd had to do a lot of praying for a lot of, like, forgiveness or forget, because I. Cause everybody knew what was happening because you were a kid from a small town, and I hope you take this right way. You didn't know what you were doing?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I didn't. I had no idea.

[Bobby Bones]

They knew you didn't know what you were doing, and they were taking advantage of somebody who didn't know what they were doing. That's what it seems like to me.

[Kane Brown]

Oh, yeah, of course. A million percent. And then it wasn't. It wasn't really. It wasn't necessarily Sony's fault, you know, I mean, they had an artist that was popping at the time that, Yeah, I was forced to sign with them. But how do you say. I mean, honestly, I have the kind of heart that I would be like, no, you don't have to. You can make a choice. But it's. It's. It's a business at the end of

[Bobby Bones]

the day, at the beginning. And was your first viral. Was it George Strait? Was that the one that you.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Was it? Check yes or no.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So that thing pops. Do they go, hey, you. Your country? Or were they, like, what were they thinking? You were who, Anybody. After you went viral, were they going, for sure, you should stay in the country lane. Or were they like, you. You should be you.

[Kane Brown]

Oh, no, no, no. That was just what I was. That was my goal.

[Bobby Bones]

When you're making music in Atlanta, were you making country music?

[Kane Brown]

So they were showing me to. They were showing me to. What's his name? Timbaland. And what's really cool about this, and this is the other reason I can't get mad, because if I wouldn't have signed with, I wouldn't have my family, I wouldn't know my wife, I wouldn't have my kids.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, what's that correlation then? How do you know your wife? Because of him.

[Kane Brown]

She used to work with him. He introduced us.

[Bobby Bones]

So was she a performer, like an artist?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, she was working with. Yeah. So she was managed by Johnny Wright, which is. I mean, he had Britney Spears. He still has Justin Timberlake. I think he had the Backstreet Boys. Like, he's massive. So she would go to the studio and I was supposed to be in her music video. A year before we had actually met, but I had my first show, so I couldn't be the guy in the music video. So that's why I always look at it. If I wouldn't have done this with, then I wouldn't have my family.

[Bobby Bones]

You were gonna be the hot guy in a music video?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That's pretty cool. Generally, you're the hot guy in a video.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. She said. She said. He asked me and I was like, what she looked like. And then he told. He told her to use me, and she said, what's he look like? And then, I don't know. It just hit off.

[Bobby Bones]

You're a pretty happy guy. Just generally speaking. I had no idea that you had been finagled out of that money.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I've kept it on the down low. It was funny, though. He just saw me. I don't really know what he's doing now, but I was saying FLA Reid on Facebook Live for the longest, and I had everybody messaging me saying, like, you can't do that. You can't do that. I was like, screw it. I'm just a kid from Chattanooga on Facebook. What you mean I can't do it?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you were saying that recently. Oh, I was gonna say, yeah, don't do that. Before I got signed, you will die. Yeah, yeah. Got it. Got it. There's like, a replacement Cane Brown in here now.

[Kane Brown]

You know how they say they kill

[Bobby Bones]

people and then put a little.

[Kane Brown]

That's been creeping me out too, by the way.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, like the Jim Carrey.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, it's. Dude, I went down a rabbit hole with that.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that's, you know, my theory.

[Kane Brown]

I'll take it. That's what I. I was really excited to come in here and just go left and right and just talk to the good.

[Bobby Bones]

Then I'll go for a minute. So I am a massive Andy Kaufman fan. And for those that don't know Andy Kaufman, he's dead now, but he was a performance artist. Some would say comedian, but performance artist. He also ended up acting a little bit. In the 70s sitcom Taxi, he played Latke, and he would be like, thank go very much. He was like that guy. You'd probably know a picture of him if you saw him, but he died. There's a movie about him that's my favorite movie ever where Jim Carrey played him. And the movie's called man on the Moon. Thing about Andy Coffin was everything was performance art. It was to the point where people would. His family would get so mad at him because he was always, like, doing really wild things just to get reaction. In his live shows, for example, he would set up a tent and the crowd would be full because they knew him from tv. He a bit resented his TV character because it made him famous in a way that he didn't really want. But he would set up a tent on stage, and he'd just go onto the tent and go to sleep. And that was his act. And he'd just see how many people would stay like, it was Just. Or he would have War and Peace, the book. And he'd say, thank you for coming, and just read the whole book for hours. Just because his performance art was for him. He wanted to see if people would stay and watch him read the book. So all this happens. It's my favorite performer ever. Jim Carrey's favorite performer. As you know, Jim Carrey's very, very animated physical comedy. Jim Carrey recently has been saying a lot of stuff over the past few years in regards to, like, entities in Hollywood. And I retire. I'm never coming back. And so, you know, you saw Jim Carrey, and they're like, is that even a real Jim Carrey? My theory is, is that that guy was not Jim Carrey, but Jim Carrey is not dead. Jim Carrey was a part of putting someone in a Jim Carrey mask. And then Jim Carrey got to enjoy the person impersonating Jim Carrey and then watching all that was happening around it as a bit of performance art.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Even Jim Carrey's family was with him. With him. The guy that was supposedly Jim Carrey, I think, in Paris, But I think they knew about it. My theory is Jim Carrey was in on the joke that that wasn't Jim Carrey. But Jim Carrey hasn't been abducted and killed and replaced by somebody just being Jim Carrey.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. Yeah. I do think that that dude was in there. The only thing that was throwing me off was his voice. Cause, I mean, if that's the case, he's got a great impersonation.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, it is a good Jim Carrey voice. But what does Jim Carrey sound like in his 60s? Kind of like Jim Carrey in his 40. Because I said the same thing. And listen to it. And it does sound like Jim Carrey, but somebody who can. I can't do impressions at all. I can do a cane brown impression.

[Kane Brown]

Can you? Yeah, that's it.

[Bobby Bones]

I got a Lamborghini.

[Kane Brown]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

That one.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? And I. I've only talked about this a couple times. You know, this. I don't know much about cars, but I bought a Lamborghini after our conversation about Lamborghinis. Because there's a lot of things that happened in your life growing up that are very similar to things that happened in my life growing up. And I've always really admired where you come from, which could also be a

[Kane Brown]

bit

[Bobby Bones]

me admiring where I come from, because I'm like, that dude did it. But really, I'm like, man, I did it, too. So there are a Lot of parallels between how I grew up. And you were talking about a Lamborghini, but you were talking about it. Not in the way of, I got a Lamborghini. Look at me. I'm rich. You're like, man, I've earned a Lamborghini. I'm driving it. And you say, if you ever want to drive it, just come over to the house and drive it. And I was like, I will never drive your Lamborghini. I don't want to wreck your Lamborghini. I never even thought about having a Lamborghini. And so my wife and I were driving around. I don't see very well. I hit way too many potholes, and I had a couple nice cars. My dream car was a Bentley, and I bought one, and it was crazy, and it was awesome. But then I was like, I'm driving like an old person car, like, and I'm hitting potholes. And it was like, I was driving like this. And we were looking. My wife says, you need to get an SUV because you can't see. And maybe if you're up higher, you won't hit as many potholes. You and I just had a conversation, and we drove by the Lamborghini place, and I was like, you know, I'm pouring out for Kane. I'm going to look at the Lamborghinis. And you didn't die yet. But still, I went in, didn't think I was going to get one. And I got. And I saw the suv, and I was like, man, I don't know. And I got in it, and I was like, I think I'm going to do it. And I didn't feel bad about it, because when you were talking about it, you weren't bragging about it. You were just like, I always wanted this, and I've worked hard, and I've got it. And so I bought one. I texted you, and I was like, I got one, but it's the. I even felt weird telling you. I was like, it's the lame one. It's the. It's the suv. And you're like. You're like, dude, it's a Urus. That's cool. And I was like, all right, maybe it is cool, but, like, I have mine now, and this is the most unrelatable thing to talk about. But I feel like it's okay, because I feel like it's okay because you were talking about it, and you didn't make me feel like you were talking about it to brag that you had one, but to kind of show, hey, If I come from here and can get this, I think anybody can do the work to come from there and get this.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's why I got mine. Although you did drive yours here. What did I say before we started recording?

[Kane Brown]

Kind of sit in it.

[Bobby Bones]

Kind of sit in it whenever we go out there.

[Kane Brown]

I think you'll be. You'll really like your. Your pick of getting the Urus. Because if I wouldn't have went, and I think I told you this before, if I wouldn't have modified mine, I. I would have been bored with it already.

[Bobby Bones]

Why? What's boring about it?

[Kane Brown]

I like to, I like to drive fast.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I hold up traffic. It's kind of a thing like people know I'm around. If the cars are backed up like 10 deep, they're like, Bobby must be up there.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I always. I also feel like the one that I have doesn't stick out. I'm cool with that.

[Kane Brown]

The color sticks out. Color is beautiful. It's a beautiful.

[Bobby Bones]

So colorblind.

[Kane Brown]

Are you.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah. And I know it's blue.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm so colorblind that if.

[Kane Brown]

Well, it's a beautiful color.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Wow. Yours looks awesome.

[Kane Brown]

Well, thank you. I'm just matte black.

[Bobby Bones]

But I would probably hit potholes in yours though.

[Kane Brown]

I do all the time. And I scrape. And we lowered it even lower.

[Bobby Bones]

Why?

[Kane Brown]

Just to make it look better. But it's so not practical.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you drive that as your regular car?

[Kane Brown]

I shouldn't, but I do. Oh yeah? Yeah. Because I'm so. I'm not selling it. I'm to the point. I've had, I've had people try to buy it from me.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Kane Brown]

I'm like, man, this is my first and only Lambo I'm ever gonna buy. Like I want to give this to my kids one day. Kingsley's about to be seven and she's. She's dying for it. She's like, I want it so bad. And then now I'm like, I don't know, what if I have to get a crew?

[Bobby Bones]

Hahaha.

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[Kane Brown]

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[Kane Brown]

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Amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

One of the best guards I've seen in years. Like, we got to give him his flowers.

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Every big game this year, he's taken control of it. He's been the best player on the floor almost every game that he's been a part of. The numbers he's putting up in the

[Bobby Bones]

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[Kane Brown]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna ask you a question about kids. Give me the stages like very baby to like. Like what am I about to experience here? Because also I'm not 19 or 22. Like I'm older.

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[Bobby Bones]

My fear growing up always was I don't wanna have a kid because I don't want a kid to be poor. Like I was poor. It was my greatest fear was grow raising a kid without the means to feed the kid. Cause I didn't always have food. And so that was so scary to me. I don't have that fear anymore. Now it's. Dude, I've only held one baby in my life ever. Like even held any else's. And that's by accident.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I think so. I'll tell you when you, when it. I'll tell you when it's here, you're probably going to be very nervous. You're gonna. Thomas Rhett said it best. You're gonna feel like it's glass, but it's made of. It's not made of rubber, but it's more like rubber And I think the going to sleep definitely get a night nurse because you. You're. We are privileged enough that you can get a night nurse. That will save your. Your mental state. I think the hardest part for me, and it's going to be for you too. Since we both came from the same background, my kids are very privileged.

[Bobby Bones]

I already have that conversation with my wife. It's like, how do I create adversity? And she's like, it's not born yet.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. And so we just shot a music video for woman. And so my kids, when we go to Disney, they don't have to wait in lines. They get the VIP treatment. They go to the back. They get to hop right on the ride. They can ride it again if they want to. They get anything they want. I'm like, stop buying toys. You know, Christmas. I'm like, that's too many toys. If they go. If they hear the word target, they get a toy. It's ridiculous. And it drives me nuts. And I don't think my wife. I don't think she realizes it drives me that nuts. But. So when we shot this music video, I didn't get to go on the rides because I was working, so my nanny had to take Kingsley on the rides. They gave us just like a day pass to go. And so she got to the. She got to the line, and she looked up to my nanny. She says, why are we waiting in line? And I was like, yes. Like, I loved it. She had to walk around the whole park. She didn't get golf cart. She didn't get a. Drove around. So the time she got back to us, she was exhausted. She was asleep. They had to carry her to the. To the room. And I was like, finally, just that little bit of how I grew up. I showed her the other day, I had to show her a trailer. Like, what a trailer is. That's what I grew up in.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. Not a movie trailer. Like a. Like a trailer trailer park.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. And so I showed it to her, and she said, you lived in that? And I said, yes. And I'm showing you this in our second house in Florida. I'm like, you little privileged? Nah. Like, so it's. That's probably my biggest pet peeve. And my advice to you is just, it's probably gonna be something that since we both struggled, and that's probably gonna be something you'll have to worry about.

[Bobby Bones]

What is your earliest memory? My earliest memory, Straight up earliest memory

[Kane Brown]

being thrown across the room, like, first thing in mind by my stepdad, like, Abuse type. I peed the bed.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. That sucks. Not that you peed the bed because I peed the bed, but I'm saying you were thrown across the room for that.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a memory. That's your first memory, huh? It's that that trauma is set in so deep.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, well. And also it probably doesn't help that normal interviews, people found out about it and that's just like what I've. I think that my brain might just be programmed to.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean normal interviews?

[Kane Brown]

People find out like if I have interviews and like especially coming up, like everybody wants to know the sad stuff. So I was like, that's just. I mean, that's just been repeated in my head the last 10 years because

[Bobby Bones]

you've had to come up with something. So that's the first thing you can remember from the sad stuff.

[Kane Brown]

You just keep it just. Yeah, it's just like in my life now.

[Bobby Bones]

My grandma raised me for a lot of my life, adopted me. Your grandma was important in your life? What was you guys relationship? And when did that happen?

[Kane Brown]

My Nano, she was awesome. And when did. What do you mean the B7?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm talking about just in general, like your grandma. My grandma was like my rock. The only rock that I had.

[Kane Brown]

Yes. My Nano, she was. She was awesome. So I go this to me and my little brother. This has never been told either. So me and my little brother was almost put up for adoption when we were small. And some things have been hidden from us. I don't know exactly everything, but my Nana was part of it. At one point I was told and then she wasn't. And so then it was like I had flipped the switch on her, you know, just being from Georgia and a white family and, you know, me being biracial. So then she ended up just loving me and I just remember her, you know, egg sandwiches she used to make me or. The best in the world. And so is your Nana.

[Bobby Bones]

Nana is what you call yours, right? I call my grandma. Was she your biological grandmother?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. So I never met my dad's side of the family until I was 16. Found out I had five brothers and sisters outside of my dad. But I never met him.

[Bobby Bones]

When you were 16?

[Kane Brown]

Till I was 16. I didn't mean my older middle brother. Till I was 24 and I was touring.

[Bobby Bones]

Did they know you existed?

[Kane Brown]

No. They once. Once. So my dad reached out to me. He wrote me a letter in the mail. I got it my freshman year of high school and then fast Forward met. So my. So my sister, Ariel, Heidi, and Brian are all living in Chattanooga, and Mikey was living in Iowa. So that's why I didn't meet him till I was 24. But then I started hanging out with all them. And, yeah, the rest is. I mean, that's a whole nother situation, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Did dad leave?

[Kane Brown]

No, my dad's been in prison.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it. My dad left at 6, and I was writing a book, and the whole book was about basically, like, if I can do it, you can do it. But I did it with very practical techniques, like show up on time. Just like basic building blocks of success. And I wrote this book, and I was like, man, I feel like such a freaking loser, and I'm a hypocrite because I've not done the one thing that really scares me, and that's go track down my biological dad. And so that's what I did.

[Kane Brown]

Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

And so I didn't know him. He left when I was six. I had fallen off a house and had surgery and almost died. And then when I was in the hospital, he used that as a. He. He jumped. And so I never saw him again. So I think there's probably a lot of guilt in me. When I was a kid thinking, well, since I'm hurt, I made him go away. As I got to be an adult, I kind of just realized. But my mom was 15 when she got pregnant. He was 17. So there's also some of that, too, where you realize they're kids, and kids don't generally make good decisions. But again, a lot to unpack. But I messaged a cousin and was like, how do I get ahold of. And I don't call him my dad, but for the sake of this my dad, how I get ahold of him, got his number, text him, and I was like, hey, this is your son. And then I was like, I better write my name. Even if I write son, I better write like, this is your son, Bobby. I'm going to be in town in Arkansas, and I wasn't going to be in town, but I knew if I could just set that time, it gave us a point, and I went and met him. Dude, it was so weird to see somebody that looked like me, really, because I'd never in my life had a conversation with a parent. My mom was an addict, and she died in her 40s. And she was there, but we never had, like, an adult conversation. So when I met my biological father, it was the first, like, real life conversation. And I was 32. It was the first conversation I ever had with a parent. But what I remember thinking is, I look like this human. It's crazy because there was no genetics in my life because I had no family that I was near. And so.

[Kane Brown]

Dude, Guy, Our lives are crazy similar, bro.

[Bobby Bones]

What's your version of that?

[Kane Brown]

Well, I mean, you said you didn't look like nobody. I look. I lived on the white side of my family. You know what I mean? I didn't. I didn't know color in my family till I was 16. And then when you just talked about your mom, I didn't know about that either. I'm sorry about that. But my mom went down the same rabbit hole, same with my little brother. And so I got kicked out when I was 17. And so everybody was like, why aren't you helping your mom? Or whatever? I'm like, I am helping my mom. I got her apartment. I'm paying for all the utilities. I can't just give her money. You know what I mean? Because if I just give her money, then she's just gonna go and buy the stuff that's hurting her. So I could not find out how to do it. So I just got her apartment and helped her that way. Because if you. If you take work away from her, like, she even tells me me and my little brother were her. Were her. What do you call it? Purpose. When we grew up and moved out. What's her purpose now? You know what I mean? She's not married. She has no boyfriend. So I'm just. I mean, she's just doing whatever she can in the house.

[Bobby Bones]

Is she alive now?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, and she's so much better now. Love you, mom. Yeah, so much better now. But that and I got her a house.

[Bobby Bones]

Did she have to hit a certain bottom to understand what was happening with her before she figured it out?

[Kane Brown]

I don't know what the breaking point was. I just. I told her I want my mom back. I felt like it was just. It was hard. I had no family up here. Like, we. Like, it was tough. I mean, I have my nana, luckily, and then my aunt. I don't know what her breaking point was.

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[Kane Brown]

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[Kane Brown]

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[Bobby Bones]

I love that version of that story because very similarly when I started to have some success and not to the Success app now because my mom never got to see me be really successful, but successful to me was having more than $20 in a checking account. Like that was this first real success where I could actually get gas and have to worry about it. Um, but I did this. I bought mom a trailer and I bought her two acres of land. And because I thought if I could stop her, if I could make life easier for her, she would stop using.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is what she was doing. And where I come from, opioids like crazy and homemade meth. Like there were trailers blowing up all over the place because they're making meth inside of these places. And I thought if I could make and I'd put her in rehab a couple times, but she's an adult, she would check herself out and I thought if I can just buy her this, it'll work. Why I'm so happy about that your version is. It didn't. It didn't get my mom to a good place. I think I enabled her. She died. I mean she died because I was just like, let me give you money. And I learned that it was a very, very hard lesson to where I just thought I could pay away her problems. And that now when I talk about it, it's like the hardest thing is to let them do it themselves whenever you have the ability to do it for them, because doing it for them actually does just the opposite.

[Kane Brown]

That's the same with my little brother. My little brother ended up getting arrested, and I got him out already. And then he ended up going back. And I said, I'm not getting you out this time. I said, I'm going to leave you in there at least for six months so it gets out of your system. And then he ended up standing there for a year. But when he got out, he said, thank you for leaving me in there.

[Bobby Bones]

It's very hard, though, to leave him in there because you love them and you think, well, if I love them, I should just give them stuff and help them, Man. I'm so happy to hear that about your mom, that you guys have a good relationship now.

[Kane Brown]

Relationship now, yeah. I'm excited she's back. She texts me. She loves me all the time. It's like, feels good.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're biracial. Were you white or black growing up?

[Kane Brown]

I don't know what I was. I was just walking. I didn't know, like, really anything about racist, but.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, but what friends did you have?

[Kane Brown]

I had one black friend. And I know this sounds crazy, but I just thought he stayed in the sun longer than me. I didn't.

[Bobby Bones]

Come on.

[Kane Brown]

I promise you.

[Bobby Bones]

I swear, dude.

[Kane Brown]

Because if I don't go in the sun, I get stuck super pale. So I was like, okay, cool. And then when I get in the sun, I get super dark. I know it sounds crazy, but, I mean, I'm in. It was. We care. So I'm like, I might be 8 years old, and I didn't find out I was. I didn't find out of another race until I got called the N word in middle school. And then I went back home and said, what is that? And my mom told me, and it took my little brother to tell me that I was half black.

[Bobby Bones]

So you didn't know? But I guess there was no.

[Kane Brown]

Never met my dad. And then I. My granddad, which is my mom's dad. My. I called him Pop. He was with me every day, and he was just a white man, so that was. I did. I never asked. I never. I don't know what it was like. He never got brought up. My fan. It was like my family just tried to completely ignore the fact. And I'm a kid, so I'm not gonna sit there and be like, where's my dad? Because my pops. Right there. And then. Not to mention, I had my stepdad in the picture, too, which was my little brother's dad, and he was. He was with my mom, so it wasn't like a. There wasn't a man that wasn't in the house. So it wasn't necessarily me saying, where's my dad?

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know your biological father now? Do you have a relationship with him?

[Kane Brown]

No. That's another. This is probably going to get brought up to bring some stuff up, too. But, yeah, I do not. He's been in prison since 96. And that's. That just goes to my. That side of the family, for me, is kind of crazy. Love them. I've helped them out many times, but all they do is you'll help them out. Then they talk crap about you on social media when you don't. And it's like, I'm not. I'm not doing that. I've gave you. I've gave all of them multiple thousands of dollars. I've helped multiple of them multiple. Get into houses that they needed to. I've paid rent. I've done so much. And then after, if I don't, they just talk shit on Facebook and say, I have all this money and don't help no family members. But I'm all about family.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a cousin. It's from that side of the family. I have a jail aside. Everybody's been in jail on that side.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And five or six years ago, maybe more than that now, because Covid kind of messes with my brain. I saw a news story, and I saw him escape prison on tv.

[Kane Brown]

He escaped.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude. It's the craziest thing.

[Kane Brown]

What are you doing? You're like, go, go, go.

[Bobby Bones]

No, because people were calling me. Like, the FBI was calling me. So it showed, and it was like a big story because he and his mom had helped him. I think she was waiting in a car outside, and there was, like, a little hole that you can, like, hand. And so he was on the phone, jumped through the hole, and then he ran all through states. They tracked him for, like, two. They couldn't. So they started to call me, and they were like, do you know where your cousin is? He just escaped prison. He's in that side of the family. And I'm close to two of my cousins that haven't been to prison, but pretty much everybody else has. It was like a manhunt for two weeks. And they were like, are you hiding your cousin? I'm like, I don't know my cousin. But it was crazy because it was. Good Morning America was covering it. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's the craziest video to watch him, like, squeeze out of There. Yeah, man. Yeah. Like, I root for you because again, I know your story, but also like you as a person. When I first met you, I didn't like you that much.

[Kane Brown]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I just think it was. It's just confusion of impression. Confusion is what I was saying.

[Kane Brown]

It was just social media, you know? And I mean, you just had to see me. I don't know. And also I was shy, I was quiet, which probably came off very. A hole.

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Ish.

[Kane Brown]

To a lot of people when I got in the industry. But, like, for what I'd been through in my life, you know, I could just. I wouldn't just let people in. I had to get to know them.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that is exactly it. And I think I'm so insecure that people don't like me that I'm going, oh, if that person doesn't like me, I don't like them.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like immediately, for some of those same reasons. But I was like, oh, he doesn't talk. Oh, he thinks he's too good. And then. Yeah. But we had like a minute on social media where we were like, k. Ing each other.

[Kane Brown]

Hey, I gotta. We need to do it again. I got a lot of followers.

[Bobby Bones]

It was just like k. K. And so. But now it's like, if you needed a kidney, I'd give you one.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, so.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I get jealous, though, watching you play ball. I think that's the one thing I get jealous of. What?

[Kane Brown]

Basketball?

[Bobby Bones]

Just. Yeah, you're just good at stuff.

[Kane Brown]

No, like, as a. No people. No, there's.

[Bobby Bones]

I've. I've watched you with my own eyeball. I did see you strike out once. Slow pitched softball. But then I watched you at a home run right after that. No, but then I watch you at home. Home run right after that.

[Kane Brown]

And you had a. In the park home run.

[Bobby Bones]

I got the MVP belt up there. But I only got that because you made the play at the end of the game to save the freaking game.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, but you were diving all over the field. Okay. Yeah, but you got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm jealous to watch somebody that. Because when you. You're. You're a really good basketball player.

[Kane Brown]

I'm. Okay. No, I'm saying. And I've. I've tried to invite you a couple times, but you go to bed.

[Bobby Bones]

I go to bed.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I do go to bed.

[Bobby Bones]

Way earlier than you play ball.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to do one during the morning sometime.

[Bobby Bones]

Like if you do it in the morning. Morning. I'm working. I got a very small window Here. Yeah.

[Kane Brown]

One, two.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, how much basketball do you play?

[Kane Brown]

I actually quit, but I'm trying to get. I'm in shape now where I would love to do it more. We used to play every Monday. Yeah, we got to get it back, though. They keep asking me, you have a trainer now. Jared.

[Bobby Bones]

Great. The greatest. He was my guy for five years. I don't know what he says about me. Like, weak, lazy.

[Kane Brown]

No, no, no. I mean, he's worked with everybody now,

[Bobby Bones]

so he used to go on the road with me. Like, he was like, he's awesome.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, he goes out with me now, I think. I mean, he's with. He's been with Tyler, who's out with him. And then I told. I was just with Lauren the other day. Lauren, Elena. And she found. She was like, you look great. I said, jared. She goes, God, I gotta get him back out. So he's been with everybody.

[Bobby Bones]

Are you still as hyper focused on health?

[Kane Brown]

Oh, yeah. I don't think it's. But used to. I had to force it. Now it's just in my nature.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you texted me, hey, do you want to get in good shape? And I'm like, bro, I remember the text and my feelings were a little bit hurt.

[Kane Brown]

And you were like, no, I'm just excited. No, no, no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

You hit me and you said, hey, man, you're looking to get in good shape. And I'm like, bro, I just lost like £11. I'm more shredded than I've ever been. And you're telling me I don't look good, like. And then I said that back to you and you're like, okay, my bad. And that was it. I'm not gonna look like you.

[Kane Brown]

You can.

[Bobby Bones]

First of all, you're like, younger than I am. You're larger than I am.

[Kane Brown]

No, that's what I'm saying. But you can get ripped.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I can be in pretty good shape. But you're naturally. I don't. Because if people tell me, hey, like, you're talented, I get offended because I don't feel like I'm talented. I work hard, but you're just naturally a better athlete than I am. Thank you for not. Thank you for not agreeing. Thank you for not agreeing so wholeheartedly. What's up with the bar you're opening, dude?

[Kane Brown]

It's crazy. We've had that bar for two years. And it's funny because after everybody's been opening a bar, you just see comments. It's like, oh, great, another bar opening. I was like, they're saying that about me. But we've had it for two years, and we've been going to each bar and seeing, like, what works and what doesn't work for the other artists instead of just throwing our name up there. And we got to pick out the finishes. Kate's really good at, like, interior decorating, so I want to make it look really cool, but make it different just because my music is all over the place. So instead of just having your. Like, we're going to have the traditional live band on the first floor, but then as you go up, we're gonna have another bar or another, like, speakeasy called Dusk. Excuse me. And that's gonna be, like, the. It's gonna feel like a Miami vibe. We pick, like, Miami type of colors, which I don't think anything on Broadway feels like that. And then, yeah, it's just gonna be cool. And then we're gonna have, like, cool art and decorated pieces throughout the whole bar.

[Bobby Bones]

When is that opening?

[Kane Brown]

Memorial Day weekend.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have a deal where you're gonna play a few times a year there? I don't know. Is there a state? Like, are you gonna show up and just.

[Kane Brown]

No, no. I mean, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be showing up. I'll be there buying the bar shots and, you know, randomly sing and every now and then. But it's not in a deal. It's just going to be what I. What I do with it. And if I go in, you know, to any kind of brand thing that I wanted to, I want to give it my all and let them know that I'm enjoying this. I want y' all here.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you feel comfortable in your skin now as an artist, in that you feel if you do anything, it's okay now?

[Kane Brown]

No, not. You mean anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, anything you want to do. Like, do you feel like. Because, again, some of your music at times has been a little more rock. It's still country, but still a little more rock, landing at times, different sonic elements. I think you've had version. Different versions. Like, do you feel like it doesn't matter what you put out? Like, you're. You don't have to, like, maintain some sort of country music standard anymore?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I feel a little bit more freely of I can just be me. But I think. I think it's just now happening this year, which is crazy. I know I've released some stuff back in the day. I mean, even, like, Miles on it. One thing, right. My song, grand. That are, you know, completely left field, but they worked. And so for me, it Was a. It was. I was nervous releasing those, but the fans showed me that I shouldn't be. And so now this year, with going through therapy and just being older, I guess, and maturing, it's just. I'm really excited for the record I'm working on now.

[Bobby Bones]

What are your five best songs? One through five.

[Kane Brown]

Couldn't tell you.

[Bobby Bones]

You have to, though. I know. And mostly someone would say that. I'd be like, all right, we'll pivot off. But I'm really gonna hold you to this right now, today. What are your five favorite Kane Brown songs? Number one.

[Kane Brown]

I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna do, like, what. I like to perform live, I guess. Love performing Miles on it. I don't know if it's just because it's fresh still to everybody, Bear me in Georgia. Thank God. I really want to say learning.

[Bobby Bones]

Then why don't you?

[Kane Brown]

I'm gonna say learning just because I feel like that's the most. My most story. Five would be. I think I'm gonna say one thing right, because I had the most to do with that song, and I think that was my first time reaching outside of the genre to another artist and really my first boundary push.

[Bobby Bones]

When you and your wife did the song together, did she have any trepidation or was she nervous about doing that? Or was she nervous about what people would say? Oh, it's just Kane Brown's wife.

[Kane Brown]

I don't know how you're nervous with a voice like that.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no doubt. She can sing. I just think some people didn't know she could sing until.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I don't think she had a problem with that. She was nervous to get in the studio because she hadn't been in the studio for so long. And then. And then when we did get in the studio, it was just me, her, and Dan Huff, which is massive producer, but such a sweetheart. So he really got her through it. But I think that was the only thing she was nervous about. She's. She's more nervous of just the performance on stage because she has really bad anxiety. So it's. It's really sweet. But it's funny because a lot of times people be like, God, they have such good chemistry on stage, and she's just holding on to me so she doesn't pass out.

[Bobby Bones]

So.

[Kane Brown]

But no, it's just. It is so cool that just she gets to do that with me, and the fans love it. And fun fact. We are. And I don't. I don't really like facts like this, but we're the only other couple to have a number one at country radio other than Tim and Faith.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

My question was going to be about that because you record it, that's cool. Big deal goes on a record. Big deal. But then when you make it the single, that's a really big deal because then it exists and there's an effort to make it a number one song by your label and it was a number one song easily. But then you have to go perform it. Like all of that happens. Like, was that a conversation with her? Like, do you want to be a part of a single?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I mean, I think it wasn't a conversation. I just told her like, yo, this, once you do this, it's going to radio. And then I think she was okay with it. She might have been nervous, but she didn't act like it. I think her most thing is just getting ready for one song because she. It takes her like two hours to get ready.

[Bobby Bones]

I swear to God. I was thinking about that watching a video once I said I was like, I feel so bad for Caitlyn because I think she's getting ready and she goes and does one song on stage and has to come off. But she looks great, but it takes a. And clothes are expensive. That's always what I think of.

[Kane Brown]

She does a whole stylist for it and everything. She looks amazing though. But that's why I'm trying to get her. We're trying to get more music. We had Body Talk come out so we did do two songs and then we. We have a third one that we just hadn't added to the set. So I'm trying to get another. Another song for on this album.

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[Kane Brown]

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[Kane Brown]

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[Bobby Bones]

What's in your algorithm

[Kane Brown]

right now? Yeah, boxing, a lot of comedy stuff.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, who's the funniest person? I just had this conversation. I'll go first to give you time to think now because I'm hogging it. But I'm gonna ask the question. I'll go first. Sometimes people yell at me. They're like, you talk too much. It's like, no, I want them to have time to think of a good answer. So that's what I'm gonna do. If you were to do your Mount Rushmore of the funniest people alive, who would it be? It's hard. I'm going to give you mine, but you pay no attention to what I'm saying. I give you time to think of yours. On my list I have Ricky Gervais. He created the original Office, British Office, obviously the American Office. But he is so cuttingly funny and does not DGAF at all. I think he's hilarious. At number two. My favorite all time stand up comic is Chris Rock. Like to watch those old specials, it made me wish I was black so I could laugh harder because I thought it was. I was like, this is the great, this is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. Chris Rock. To me, the funniest doing comedy music. Adam Sandler. Because when I was a kid and heard the comedy music records, I was like, this is you can do this. And then Mark Norman, who's a comedian now, who is so freaking funny. I found him on TikTok, but he's a big comedian. Got a Netflix special. That guy makes me laugh so hard because again, he's one of these guys who you can't cancel him because he doesn't have an entity that he works for.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And that to me is funny. So that would be my Mount Rushmore. Of the funniest people that I feel right now. I filled some space. Hopefully you now have the four Funniest people alive.

[Kane Brown]

Four funniest people I don't even know. I would say, gotta put Will Ferrell in there.

[Bobby Bones]

Ever met him?

[Kane Brown]

Never. I'm gonna put Gary Owens.

[Bobby Bones]

That guy's so funny.

[Kane Brown]

I love Gary Owens.

[Bobby Bones]

I can say why he's funny, right? Because he's a white guy doing mostly black.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, he's a black guy, basically.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It's so funny. And I grew up in a town that wasn't all white, like, and so that guy doing that makes me laugh so hard because there were guys in my high school that was like that. And like, everybody's like, yeah, cool. All good. Yeah, he's funny. What else?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, he's so funny to me. I'm gonna say. I'll say. I'll say jim carrey. And I need one more.

[Bobby Bones]

I.

[Kane Brown]

I mean, I guess it's just my time, but I. It's between Eddie Murphy and. It's between Eddie Murphy and probably Kevin Hart. Kevin's just in my time right now.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know Kevin Hart?

[Kane Brown]

No. Walk past him a couple times. Like, the president walked past me. It was crazy. Eight security guards, like, nuts.

[Bobby Bones]

Ever met Michael Jordan?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. Yeah. So I have a. I go and play his course for my birthday every year for a birthday trip. So it's. We've got to the point where he just comes up to me and dabs me up now. It's pretty crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

That's pretty crazy.

[Kane Brown]

My friend Kenny, he. So he can't always say, what's up? Can you have a birthday? Shook my hand. My boy Kenny ran over right after he drove off and just started grabbing my hand, touching it.

[Bobby Bones]

One degree. He touches Michael Jordan. One degree. What's up? What's like. What's on your mind?

[Kane Brown]

What's on my mind?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, what's on your mind?

[Kane Brown]

I'm just. Just happy. I'm excited. Feel like the last four years, kind of like a shell for me.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean by that?

[Kane Brown]

Like, just did it. Like, I didn't know if I wanted music anymore, you know?

[Bobby Bones]

Were you getting burnt out?

[Kane Brown]

Not necessarily burnt out. I think I was just, like. I was just trying to please the wrong people, you know? I wasn't doing anything for me. I was doing it just to. I'm a people pleaser. I'm like, I don't want to do that no more. Just need to worry about my fans, which is what I did, like, day one and have fun. And I got to this point where I was just like, I have a name now. Kane Brown, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah. Like you can't post anything that makes you look not cool. And so that's why if you go look at all my social media posts now, I'm generally having fun posting and they're working. So just getting back to me feeling myself. But this is my first year ever talking to a therapist as well. And he made me sit down and find my inner child that I was like protecting. Dude, I broke down. It was crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you done the thing where you put a picture of yourself up as a kid and talk to it?

[Kane Brown]

So same concept, but instead he made me pick a stuffed animal, which is going to sound kind of crazy, but I picked a monkey and put it in front of me and I don't know what it was, it was just like this energy. And then he made me switch seats and he said, now, as a kid, what would you tell your older self now? And bro, I lost it. I was like, you're doing great, man, you're doing great.

[Bobby Bones]

I did the same thing. Same exact thing happened. I don't know how you are in private. I don't, I don't cry really a lot in public or personal. And not because it's a, to me, it's not a masculinity thing, it's a vulnerability thing. Because coming from where I come from, you couldn't be weak. I couldn't be weak. I got to get out. I got to protect. I got to. So it's never like I'm a dude who can't cry. It's like I have to be strong. I can't be weak. If I'm weak, I lose. That's how I've felt. I'm breaking that cycle now. But put up a picture of me as a kid, did the same thing. Thought it was stupid for about, I don't know, 8 to 10 seconds until I lost it.

[Kane Brown]

I did too.

[Bobby Bones]

And then I was like, there's no way I'm gonna. And then it's. I do the thing where if and when I cry, like I physically, I start doing that.

[Kane Brown]

I can't even talk, My face gets red.

[Bobby Bones]

That was it. And then I switch seats. And then I just now recently start to feel like if I were a kid, I would think I was cool. And I think that's real for me. I think that's real growth. Because there's a lot of times I think I've really hated myself for a long time for many reasons. But now I think if I met a 12 year old me, I think that kid would think I was cool.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I like that about me. Do you think that about you?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. Yeah. But. And another, you know, just sitting here talking to you. This is really good for us, by the way. You know, I'm saying.

[Bobby Bones]

Why you say that?

[Kane Brown]

I was saying I've been trying to. I feel like because we started out on a rocky edge, like.

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[Bobby Bones]

But we've been friends long since then. Yeah.

[Kane Brown]

But we still haven't had. Got to sit down and have a conversation that's fairly come in. Talk about a single yada, yada. I'm getting.

[Bobby Bones]

That's not true though, because I've had to pay you money from golf and you've had to hold up a golf. We like, we've done the golf course together.

[Kane Brown]

But I guess you really don't talk.

[Bobby Bones]

You're right, because there are other guys around. And I just remember looking at you thinking, I sure would like to hug him. But I didn't because there are other people around.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kane Brown]

This is nice.

[Bobby Bones]

That is nice. All right, go ahead.

[Kane Brown]

So where were we?

[Bobby Bones]

You were talking about how good looking I am and I appreciated that. I'm not really a model. Not known as a model. But for you to say that. No, we're talking therapy. And I said I thought that me as a kid would think I'm cool.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. I don't look at myself. Like, I mean, yeah, if I was a kid, I would think I was cool. But for me. Oh, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. So as talking to you, like, for me, I don't like when people are like, oh, you're Kane Brown. Like, you should be so happy and yada, yada, yada. It's like for me, I kind of don't. I don't. I beat myself up more than the worst hater could. You know what I mean? I'm a perfectionist. So every time I walk off stage, I'm like, it wasn't good enough. And I always, you know, asked my team, like, how was it? And I used to not, which is good. Which is. It's now it's good to me because that care is back. For the longest or the last four years, I've just been, whatever, Whatever happens, happens. So that's why I really like this year. And hopefully moving forward, I can keep it like this because I'm to a point now where I. Where I care.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you like yourself?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I. I like myself a lot. But when I, you know, up for the reading comments makes me feel like I'm the biggest douchebag in the World, you know, it's.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I swear to God, I'm so happy you say that. I was just saying to someone recently who's in a space similar to what we are, I said, I. If it weren't for my brain, I would think I was the most hated person on Earth.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because everything that I possibly could read about me is bad. It makes me feel like everybody hates me. Like, I. If I were just going by what I consumed and, like, what my feelings were, I feel like everybody hates me. It takes my brain to. To weigh in and go, hey, man, here's. Let's look at the data.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because if not, like, I can spiral into nobody likes me what I do, and I'm not worthy. And luckily, I have a wife now that will say all of this stuff, as much as it matters. It doesn't matter. Meaning all this cameras and microphones, and she's, you know, with her, it's been a. There are things that matter, and your career matters, and it got you out of a bad place, and you've been able to help a lot of others because of that. But when it comes to what your values. Valuing. At times, she's been able to write me on. I think I value at times, like, what sentiment is towards me, which isn't even right, by the way.

[Kane Brown]

But she.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's been a real reality check of what matters and what doesn't. Like, human. Because I didn't have human, like, humans that I would allow to, like, get into me until I met my wife. I wonder if you had that.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. You're saying, like, you just kind of, like, was shut down.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that or I just. I didn't. I didn't have, like, a real relationship with a human.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, I didn't either. I just did. I just now kind of started to this past year. Just, like, people in my life, they'd walk in my house, my wife, you know, all chipper. Hi, good to see you. Yada, yada, yada. I wouldn't say hey. I wouldn't say bye. I wouldn't say anything. So other than, like, my friends from

[Bobby Bones]

high school, then you get a Twitter fight with them. The next thing you know. Yeah. Yeah, man, I'm glad to hear you're in a. Like, a healthy place, because I'm in a healthy place.

[Kane Brown]

Good.

[Bobby Bones]

And I really like it, like, like, as a person. Because this isn't recording. We were just, like, warming up. We're about to start now. And we're gonna start. First question. I like that song. I love country Music. Wouldn't you write that one?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, right.

[Bobby Bones]

I do like that song though.

[Kane Brown]

That song? Yeah, that sounds cool. Are we talking about that song now?

[Bobby Bones]

We don't have to. I just, I played it the other day. I was doing like a thing on the air. Like that song is fun because it just like that's a fun one. You don't like that one?

[Kane Brown]

Love it. That's what we start the show with this year.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah, that's not a good one. Keep that one.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You didn't put that in your top five though.

[Kane Brown]

Well, that one, that one, I will say just real quick, that one. I had that song and it just disappeared for two years. And then I was going through music and we had cut it and then I heard the demo. The live or the version that we cut, we just. It wasn't. It didn't hit the same as the demo. So we went back and then it ended up making the album year two

[Bobby Bones]

years later when it disappears. What does that mean?

[Kane Brown]

You know, you got. We write so much music that eventually just gets down in the bottom of the barrel. If it don't do nothing for me, I forget about it.

[Bobby Bones]

Specifically song wise. You mentioned it earlier, but tell me about woman.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah, so woman. Man out. So the, the normally when you think of a song you write it down immediately. And this one was not one of those. And it hit me twice. So I was on my back porch and we have this. We have glass doors on the back porch and you can see into our kitchen in our living room. So my boys are on the back porch of me and they're like, we're bored. It's 9 o'. Clock. Like we should go to bars downtown. I said, what? I like going to the bars, man. And I said, let's just go, just do it. And my one friend, he's single, he's like, yeah man, I need a girlfriend anyway, blah, blah, blah. So I look through my back window and I see Kate in the kitchen and she's just cleaning up, getting ready for bed. And I thought to myself, man, you are sitting here talking about girls. But I got a woman. Fast forward a couple months later, I'm doing a writing retreat and we. We've wrote like seven songs and we're in that seventh song and I just get just like exhausted. I'm like, I'm checked out of this song, don't want to finish it. So they. I'm going to warm up my food just to kill time and hope they finish this last line. And as I'm heating my food up. It hit me again. I'm like, they talking about girls, but I got a woman. And so I walked in and I tossed out. I think I got our next song to write, and it was Ashley Gourley and Ben Johnson, Taylor Phillips and John Byron. And I just. I told him that line, and they said, bro, where did this come from? I said, I was just warming up my turkey, and it hit me, and we wrote that song. And afterwards, Ashley was like, yo, we're not writing anymore today. And once we got the song back from demo, I said, this is it. This is my single. And when I first got started, I followed my gut. Like, my gut is what got me where I'm at today. And that I haven't felt it in those. All those years I've been telling you about. I just lost it. I couldn't find. Hit me with that song, and it just gave me the. The fire back under me to start writing again. And just to get my creativeness out of. I've been, like, for the last 10 years, I haven't got. Been able to get my creativeness out because people have been limiting what I can do because I've been in this. This, no offense, love country music, but I've been in this country box. And I know I have released outside of that stuff, but that's limited to me wanting to dance, me wanting to bring dancers. That stuff's not done in country music, but just imagine if it was, and I got to be who I want to be. I've been. I've been trying to protect myself from what people want to say. So that's why I'm really excited for this album in 2026 and 2027, because I'm just. Whatever. I'm just doing it.

[Bobby Bones]

When the album's ready, let's do it again.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kane Brown]

I'm excited.

[Bobby Bones]

It'll be a while, right?

[Kane Brown]

Yeah. Summer, fall, my mom's birthday.

[Bobby Bones]

This has been good, man. Like, seriously.

[Kane Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And also, I want to go. I want to go see your car. So we're gonna cut this.

[Kane Brown]

Let's go.

[Bobby Bones]

All right. There he is, the lovely Kane Brown.

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