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Bobby Bones
Welcome to the Bobby Cast. This is episode number 531. Glad you guys are here. We're going to talk close to a half hour with Lainey Wilson and then I'm going to go and basically clear out some of my notes. I've been preparing an episode on some of the greatest mysteries or mysteries that I find still I'm super curious about. And so I had them in my notes and I was gonna do it somebody, but I'll talk about that later. But I do have some mysteries coming up and then I'm going to review everything I have on my pad here that I've been wanting to review for the last three months all at once. But we're gonna start with this with Lainey Wilson. Now, I'll say this about Lainey. I've known her forever and it's been awesome to see her rise. And I did a series for Amazon Prime. You could probably still watch it. You can watch. It's all up in one episode now. It's called the ac. I don't remember, but it's like the ACM Awards pre art. I don't even know the name of the show. But that being said, if you search for it, maybe just go to Amazon prime and search for Bobby Bones, that show will be up there. And I sat with Brooks and Dunn and then I sat with Lany, obviously. And I never got to put the audio out of the interview. And I thought it was really good. So you're going to hear me talk a little bit about the ACM Awards. And that is because that's actually why we were doing it. You can also watch this video. We took our whole crew out there and shot it. It's super cool. I hope you like it. I thought it was just great of Lainey, so I wanted to play it here on this episode. So it's Lainey Wilson. This is the full interview, by the way. This full interview did not exist on the ACM Awards show. We used like five minutes of it of this half hour interview. Because I think at the time Laney's documentary was coming out, which you can still watch. I believe that is on Hulu. You gotta have a lot of scription services. For sure. I think I'm in that one too. I think I'm talking about Laney. I think so. I think they came to my office and interviewed me about Laney and had a hat on. They had to blur out. They're like, can you take your hat off? And I was like, nah, you really can't. Because they kind of called me last minute and said, can we come set up and talk about Laney? But anyway, you can watch that. You can watch the ACM special. You can listen to this.
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Thank you for listening to the Bobbycast. So we'll do this, then mysteries, then full reviews and then that's what's up. Thank you very much. Here we go with Lainey Wilson.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
I look at your social media, it seems like you're everywhere. What does your calendar look like?
Lainey Wilson
Probably like yours. It's crazy. I do feel like I am like always looking ahead of ahead of ahead just to make sure I'm prepared for what's around the corner. I don't see a day where I'm not staring at my calendar.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Do you get nervous that maybe you'll miss something?
Lainey Wilson
Oh, 100%. See, my mama used to make us late for everything. Like ball practice, school, it did not matter. And so I'm always trying to make sure that, like, I show up where I'm supposed to show up, and I feel like I'm, like, ready to rock. And I'm always scared I'm going to miss something. I have nightmares about that. I have nightmares that, like, I'm about to walk on stage and I still hadn't picked out my outfit or know what I'm about to sing.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Do you enjoy things now at all? Can you? Because when you're so busy, that can be difficult.
Lainey Wilson
I do enjoy things. I mean, I feel like just like every job in general, there are definitely parts of the job that are not enjoyable and you just gotta do it anyway. But I have to be very aware not to just, like, go through the motions. I have to make sure that when these moments, you know, take place, that I'm aware and my team is aware, making sure that we, like, celebrate these moments because they can pass you by and then, poof, they're gone. I'm not going to say that I've always done the best job at that, but I feel like I'm. I'm kind of coming out of the fog.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Do you have someone that's close to you that reminds you to be human?
Lainey Wilson
My fiance, Duck, reminds me to be human. He definitely helps me keep my feet on the ground. Also just kind of reminds me of, like, what's important. I know, you know, we've talked about this some, but, like, I know that I'm not going to be sitting on the couch with my music career when I'm 90 years old. So I want to make sure that I'm, like, taking all the opportunities that I can, But I also need to make sure that I'm taking care of my people and my relationships and creating those memories. And he helps me. He reminds me how important that is.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
I've known you for a long time.
Bobby Bones
Yep.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
I haven't seen much change. Except your clothes are nicer.
Lainey Wilson
Yeah.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
What about back home? How has it changed for your family and your parents?
Lainey Wilson
I think it's been a big adjustment for my folks back at home. I think it kind of, like, snuck up on them. I think, you know, being eight hours away from Nashville and not alone, like, on the ride with me every step of the way, I feel like I'm more kind of in it. So I am aware of, like, what's happening and the changes that are happening to my life, but I think it's kind of been a few pills to swallow at a time to be like, oh, oh, okay. So, like, this is the new reality. For the most part, everybody at home still treats them the same. I mean, there's a few people who have, like, come out of the woodworks and acting like we're cousins and stuff like that.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
A lot of cousins.
Lainey Wilson
Yeah, a lot of cousins.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
When you were from. Everybody's our cousin now. Yeah.
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Lainey Wilson
But it's been an adjustment, but I feel like they are. They're doing a good job.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
I think one of the things that makes you special and one of the things that allowed your explosion was your voice, and not just your singing voice, but where you come from, how you talk about where you come from. A lot of that comes through your writing. Now, to write, you have to be creative. To be creative, you need time. Are you able to set aside time to allow creativity or how do you do that?
Lainey Wilson
It's been a juggling act, but I have had to, like, force that time. We talked about this, too, but how important it is, like, to just get bored and watch paint dry. And, I mean, I was. I've been in Nashville for 15 years, and the last five years of being here, it has been, like, 90 to nothing. I haven't hardly even been in Nashville, but I feel like Those, like, first 10 years I was here, I had all the time in the world to find inspiration and get creative and, like, go check out writers nights and. And get inspired from other songwriters. And now it's like I'm having to find inspiration in different places. And sometimes that is. That's work. You know, it's. It's like opening a book, watching a show, having conversations, like, digging a little bit deeper than maybe I had to the first 10 years I was here.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
When you were living in a trailer outside of somebody else's house, what would you tell her 10 years ago?
Lainey Wilson
Who? I would say, honestly, you don't even know what you're getting yourself into. But it's like, the most rewarding thing you'll ever do. Also the hardest thing you'll ever do, all kind of wrapped in one. I would say be sure to look up, because just like we talked about, you know, there's definitely been moments, you know, it's like you dream about, if I could just get my first car, if I could just get my first boyfriend, if I could just do this. The same thing happens in the music business. It's like, if I could just get a publishing deal, if I could just get a record deal, if I could just get a song on the radio and have a hit song, and then if I could just Sell a ticket to make sure that I'm not missing those moments.
Bobby Bones
I want to flip it.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Ten years ago, talking to you now, what would she tell you now?
Lainey Wilson
Oh, my gosh. I would think she would. I think she would tell me that she is proud of me. I do feel like, for the most part, I am the same person. You know, I look back at, like, a picture of me in my camper trailer days, and I can't help but, like, shake my head a little bit and be like, that poor girl, like, had no clue. But I feel like, at the root of all of it, like, who I am and what I stand for and all those things, I still think that, like, I am. I'm staying true to that. I think she would. I think she would just say, remember why you started doing this.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Are you proud of you?
Lainey Wilson
I am proud of me. I will say, as proud as I am of myself, I am also my biggest critic. Them people on Facebook ain't got nothing on me. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, you think you can hurt me? I can hurt myself. But that's. I feel like that's a part of the reason why I am even here is because I have been hard on myself, and I'm like, okay, this song is okay, but it's not, like, what I think it can be. Or that performance was. It did the job. But, like, what can I do to take it a step further? And it's very rare. When I walk off the stage and I feel like I did everything how I was supposed to do it, I'm always mentally taking notes about, okay, that did not work here. Maybe I need to try something a little different the next night.
Bobby Bones
Are you a perfectionist?
Lainey Wilson
I guess you would say I am a perfectionist.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Do you think that the product needs to be perfect in order to have a perfect night? Or do you think you need to perfectly attempt in how you. How you have your night? Like, where does perfection come from?
Lainey Wilson
The thing is, like, when I think about my music and I think about even, like, being in the studio, I'm not trying to make that perfect. You know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to. I don't know. I want people to feel like they can come as they are and they can listen as they are, because I wrote in that from that perspective as who I am, you know, from a place that is not perfect, who's, like, trying to be better and trying to be my best self. But I definitely think that there is something on stage and I think you'll probably be able to understand this from, like, from your perspective when you do shows. It's like it all depends on the energy that is out there. And you feel like if you're not getting it, there is something missing. And it could be a weird night for the crowd, it could be a weird night for you, but it truly is like an energy exchange. And there are some nights where it is just absolutely on fire, and you feel like you can communicate without even hardly saying a word. But there are other nights where you feel like you are fighting for it.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Have you learned through that experience that a lot of times you're wrong? Because I have where I felt like I'm doing terrible, the night is not going well, nobody's laughing. My jokes, this. I've got 11 things happening in my brain not going right, and I get off. And the feedback from the people that I trust is exactly the opposite. And that's happened enough times where I just commit and go and understand that I don't always understand. Have you had that happen yet where you realize maybe you don't have it.
Lainey Wilson
Figured out up there 100%? And it makes me feel better because I was, like, there for a while. I was walking off the stage. I think it was just because I had done so many shows in a row and I was so tired and beating myself up that I couldn't really see it for everything that it was. And Duck Mandolin, my manager, all of them were like, that was the best show that you've ever played. Like, that one right there is, like, one that you better remember. And in my brain and in my heart, I was like, wow. Like, I did not. I did not feel that way when I walked off the stage. Just because I want to. I want to leave it all out there. But I will tell you this. Melissa Etheridge told me something which kind of helped me. And every time that I go on stage and I have this thought in my head, I feel like I leave the stage in a much healthier way? She told me about the 80% rule. She said, get out there, and instead of giving it, like, 190% and feeling like you have to get up there on that stage and, like, bleed out and, like, you know, just leave it all up there. If you. If you do the 80% rule, it gives you that, like, 20% window and wiggle room to not let yourself down so much.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Like, having grace for yourself is a really hard thing to learn. I don't think I'm that good at it yet, but I Think I understand I'm not good at it. And that's like therapy talking, where I think I'm getting better at having grace for myself is exactly what you're talking about.
Lainey Wilson
It's hard.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Yeah. It's hard when you hold yourself to a standard, because those people paid money that they went and worked for, waited for months to watch Lainey Wilson.
Lainey Wilson
That's right.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And there is an expectation within yourself.
Lainey Wilson
That's right.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
That they don't go home sad or disappointed.
Lainey Wilson
I know. Because when I think about, like, me as a fan, which, if there's anything that I miss more than anything, it is being a fan out in the crowd, I miss that so much. But when I think about me as a fan, I think about, like, how hard it was for me to buy that ticket and how hard it was for me to, like, get to that show and make the arrangements and buy the hotel room. And, like, the entire year we were planning for that, that was, like, a bigger deal than Christmas. You know what I'm saying? It was, like, the highlight of my year, the highlight of. Of my life. And. And I still think about those, like, memories and. And. And I think, too, it's probably coming from knowing how important those moments were for me that I put a little bit more pressure on myself, because I know that these people had come and. And worked hard to be there, and they came there to feel something, and I got to make sure that they do.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
My last question before we talk about the ACM specifically, but do you have anybody in your life that tells you when things aren't good? Because I have found I can only believe people to tell me when I am good, when they've told me that I'm not good.
Lainey Wilson
Yes.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Because everybody wants to be your buddy and be like, that's so great. But the people I trust to tell.
Bobby Bones
Me I did something good are the.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
People that have had to tell me, hey, that wasn't so good.
Lainey Wilson
Oh, yeah.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Do you have those people in your circle?
Lainey Wilson
I do, and I keep those people close. Like, the truth is, I always say, like, I don't want to take advice from people who aren't where I want to be. I remember even, like, growing up and singing, and my mama cannot carry a tune in a bucket, but she would try to tell me how to sing, and it would make me so mad because I was like, you can't sing. But I will say, when it comes to, like, choosing songs and picking songs and the ones that I write, I can always trust my mama's judgment. And she Will tell me. She'll be like, I don't think that one is as good as you think it is.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
So that means you can trust her when she says that one is awesome.
Lainey Wilson
Yes. Her mandolin, my manager, my sister, they don't tell me the stuff that I always want to hear.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
You need somebody to tell you suck because that's really the only people that you can believe to tell you you're awesome.
Lainey Wilson
That's it.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And also, I don't really take criticism from people I wouldn't take advice from.
Lainey Wilson
That's it.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And that's hard sometimes because the Internet can be brutal. I think we all can be like, I don't read the comments, but sometimes we read the comments.
Lainey Wilson
Yes.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And it hurts. Sometimes it hurts. It does. To be honest.
Lainey Wilson
It hurts. It does.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
But I try not to take criticism of people I don't take advice from. And I commend your relationship with your fans online because I see how dedicated you are to it. I think they feel like they know you and I think you do a good job at allowing them to know you and stay in the same person.
Lainey Wilson
Well, I hope so. I hope they feel like they do know me because I really feel like I know them. I mean, even when they're coming through my meet and greet lives and I've never seen these people a day in my life, there is a. There's like a true, genuine connection. I feel like they're just. They're good people. Like, they work hard, they take care of their families. They're not the mean people on the Internet. I will tell you that.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
That's true.
Lainey Wilson
My fans are not.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
That's true. Let's reflect a bit when you win Best New Female Artist. Y feels like 20 years ago, but it's not. That's your first real big award. Like, what can you remember about that night?
Lainey Wilson
Oh, my gosh. Well, I remember Miranda calling me and telling me on a zoom. And that was. It was hard for me to wrap my head around because her and I, we had, like, I think hung out a time or two, but we weren't like buddies at that point. But for her to call me and, like, deliver that news, it was. I was like, this is Miranda Lambert calling me. And she told me she felt like she was passing the baton. And that meant a lot to me. It did. It felt like I was really finally starting to, like, enter the game.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And you get to go to the ACMs an award winner. Like, you're going. You're walking the red carpet as the best female Artist. That's super special. That's the first time you got to have your first award. Like, do you remember that night? Like, do you remember the experience of that? Do you remember that. That show. Where was that show?
Lainey Wilson
Was that one in Vegas. That was at the, like, the big. The big, big arena that year. I think that's where they did it.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
See, I would have held. I would have had an award with me. Even if it wasn't the real one. I would have had a fake one and walked away.
Lainey Wilson
Well, you know how that goes. They don't give it to you for, like, three months.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Yeah. It comes in the mail. It's like, here's your real.
Lainey Wilson
I would have been packing it.
Bobby Bones
Let's talk about. Let's go up a level.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Best female artist. You win that acm, it's like you've just had kindergarten graduation. Now you did sixth grade graduation, and you're valedictorian of sixth grade graduation, which is pretty sick. Okay, new level. How does that feel?
Lainey Wilson
I felt like, okay. I mean, these. These folks thought enough of me and my talent and what I do to. To think that I am. So now I got to show them that I am.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Were you surprised?
Lainey Wilson
I was. I always, like, go into these award shows, like, with my fingers crossed and, like, hoping for the best. But yes, at the end of the day, you can sit. You can sit around and, like, dream about that day happening all you want. But, like, when it actually does, you can't help but just be like, okay, like, I told myself I was going to be here, but, like, this really. This is really happening.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
I want to go another year, and it's Best Female Artist again. But then it's Entertainer of the Year, which is the graduation. Like, that's the big one. That's the one that the greats have won. That's the one that some of the greats haven't won. Yeah. Were you surprised?
Lainey Wilson
I was very surprised. For me, it was kind of one of those moments where I was like, how did we, like, wind up here? Like, I. I knew how we, like, wound up there. But in the grand scheme of things, I know that it looks like from the outside looking in, like, I, like, I just showed up here, you know, and I'm, like, new to school. But the truth is, you know, even when I won, like, New Female Artists of the Year, I think I had been in town at that point in time for 12 years. I've been here for 15 years now. And so Entertainer of the Year, that is the biggest title that's It.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
That's the whale.
Lainey Wilson
That's. That's it. That's it. So it's. It's still something that I can't believe, like, happened as early on as it did. But again, it went back to that same feeling of just like, okay, well, these. These people voted for me for this, and now I got to show them why they did.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Where do you keep that award?
Lainey Wilson
I built me a trophy case upstairs, so I got all my trophies, used to be participation trophies. I don't feel like that's the case anymore.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Let's talk about Reba.
Lainey Wilson
Let's do it.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
When I say Reba, you say fancy.
Lainey Wilson
Fancy. Fancy.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
That's good.
Lainey Wilson
Reba is. She is country music. Reba is a legend. Reba is an icon. Reba is Reba. I mean, literally, like, it just. You don't even have to say her last name. It's Reba.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
The first time I met Reba, and there have been three people that I've had this experience with where you just meet them, you go, oh, this is why they're iconic. Not only do they have the talent, but there's. Whatever that is. Whatever. Dolly, Garth, Reba, whatever that is. You're like, I don't know how to define it, but they have it.
Lainey Wilson
Yes.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And that. And that's Reba.
Lainey Wilson
It is.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
She's so warm, and she's so famous, and she's so. And she's. She's everything but she's so approachable still. Like, when you see Reba do it at such a high level for so long, like, how does that inspire you?
Lainey Wilson
Oh, my gosh. The amount of times that I think about Reba and Dolly Parton, when it comes to, like, decisions that I make in this business, I feel like they taught me a lot before I ever even knew them. But, like, now that I can call them friends and I can text Reba and say, what do you do when this happens? And what do you do when you're feeling this way? And whatever. And then she just willingly sends me, like, pages of wisdom that shows you why she is where she is, because you can tell that there has been people before her who have poured into her, and she's, like, willing to do the same now. She is a good woman.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
The parallel that I see with Reba and with you, you just feel like the same person. It doesn't matter what's happened. It doesn't matter what's going to happen, good or bad, highs or lows, fame or not fame, money or not money, you're the same And I think that's a testament to who you are as a person. But also the kind of music that you're making and will continue to make.
Lainey Wilson
That means a lot. That means a whole lot to me. Because just even like, watching old interviews of Reba, it's the same exact person as when me and her went and got supper together in Los Angeles a few months back. What you see is what you get. And no amount of awards and accolades and money and stardom and all of these things will ever, like, take her away from the things that make her her. And that's inspiring to me. That sounds like a lot easier, actually.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
What's funny in the parallel is, and I'll be brief about this, is that you're talking about you at the same time, because I can remember DMing you going, hey, can you come teach me how to do this dance at my house? And you're like, yeah, I'll be there in a minute. I'll be there tomorrow, whatever the case is. And you just show up and you're like, here's how to do this goofy video. You're the same person.
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Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
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Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Yeah, but I swear we talked for 20 minutes before the mics came on. It's the same thing that it was five, six years ago.
Lainey Wilson
And back at you like the Bobby that I met then. I swear to you. I mean, a lot has happened in the last few years. Even for you. It's like, it would be. It would be really easy to.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
You know, I'm AI. It's not even me. This is my replacement AI. Yeah.
Lainey Wilson
You need to let me know how to get one of them, because I need one of those.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Give me your favorite Reba memory.
Lainey Wilson
My favorite Reba memory would have to be getting to sit down and have supper with her in LA with her and her boyfriend. And I called my boyfriend Duck, and they were FaceTiming. They were talking about duck hunting. And her and I were just sitting there and I would just like dreaming up questions and asking her about what things were like. And it is really crazy to. Even though we're like, in a completely different time, that a lot of her struggles then are the same struggles that I have now. And a lot of the things that you're just kind of scared to ask people, it didn't seem like a silly question to her. She is a beautiful person inside and out. So getting to know her has been. It's been more than I could have ever imagined.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
And I'll say the same thing about you. Getting to know you has been one of my favorite parts about being in this city. Because to watch somebody, like, be wildly famous now and then you can just be like, what up, dude? Like, that's you. You're an inspiration to a lot of artists. Continue killing it.
Lainey Wilson
Thank you.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Congratulations on your success. And that's not what I'm even happiest for you about. It's just like the real life stuff you're getting to do. That's what I'm the happiest for. So congratulations. And I don't know, I feel like we'll be doing this for a lot more years.
Lainey Wilson
We will.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Yeah. There's no. There's unless. I may get fired. But you will always. I'm very proud of you and proud for you. Thank you, Lanie.
Lainey Wilson
Thank you, brother.
Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
And it tastes delicious.
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Bobby Bones
It grills like beef.
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Bobby Bones
You can't miss it.
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Bobby Bones
And we're back on the Bobbycast. I've kept a list all summer long of pretty much everything I've watched. And some of the stuff I've been able to review on the show and some of the stuff I haven't been able to review on the show because we ran out of time or we just forgot to do Tuesday reviews day. But I'm gonna get to that in a second. And this is my final. I guess summer's not even here yet really. But with Labor Day coming up and I guess it's not balls hot right now, it feels like we're on the downturn of summer. So I'm gonna give you that review coming up in a minute. But I keep a list of notes in my phone. And the notes are everything from things I wanna talk about in the Bobby Bone show, things I wanna talk about on the sports show, things I want to talk about on this show. And so underneath all the reviews, I had these 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 different things I wanted to mention. And I think I thought about doing it with a guest. I just never got to it. So before I get to the reviews, These are like five different really crazy things I've been reading about. Number one, the Mary Celeste, 1872, December 4, 1872. The Mary Celeste, which was a boat, a big ship, was spotted drifting in the Atlantic Ocean about 400 miles east of the Azores. I don't know where that is. But they sent a big boat over to intercept it. And the crew of the De Gracia boarded the Mary Celeste, which was this big ship. And they got on the ship and they were confused because the ship was seaworthy. Some people had prepared the ship not only to go on a long voyage, but had been on the ship. It was stocked with six months of food and water. The Mary Celeste had 1700 barrels of industrial alcohol. All the alcohol, all the food and water completely untouched. The captain's log stopped suddenly, meaning the captain's log was. It didn't have to be the captain, but it was a book that kept all the notes, where we're going, what we've run into, what our goals are, etc. The only thing missing from this massive ship was the ship's lifeboat. There was no sign of struggle, no damage to the vessel. The valuables were still in place and in the places that they were left, but there was nobody on the boat. And so I started reading into this, I started reading the top theories as to why there was nobody on this boat. Number one, alcohol vapor panic. There may have been leaking fumes that caused the captain to fear an explosion was imminent and he made everybody evacuate the boat. The problem is the lifeboat they took. There is no way it could have taken all the people that were on the big boat. So a little problem with that theory. Number two, there was a sudden water spout or a sea quake which scared the crew and then they abandoned the ship. Which again makes sense, except for everybody on the boat couldn't get in to the little lifeboat. Next up, pirates. Except nothing was stolen. There were no holes kicked in things. The fate of the captain, Benjamin Briggs, his family, the crew, remains unknown. The Mary Celeste simply became the most famous ghost ship in history. Nobody ever turned up from the ship. Nobody knows what happened to the ship. It was just out there. Wild story. That's number one. I got a few of these. Number two, the Tunguska event in 1908. Just after 7am on June 30, 1908, a blinding flash lit up the skies over this region of Siberia called Tunguska. Moments later, a shockwave equivalent to 1000 Hiroshima bombs flattened over 80 million trees across 800 square miles. Think about that for a second. So whenever the United states, World War II, dropped the bombs, the atom bombs, it was over Hiroshima and Nagasaki and it did major damage, killed a lot of people. This was 1,000 of those. And again, I'll read you the numbers. 80 million trees, 800 square miles. 800 square miles, that's wild. So there were witnesses. Sort of. Now this was such a part of Siberia where there wasn't a lot of life there, but anybody that was close, they were knocked off their feet. And not only that, the night that it happened, the light was so bright you could read outdoors like it was daylight. The thing is, they never found an impact crater. Scientists believe that a 160 foot meteor or comet exploded midair about three to six miles above the ground, creating a blast, but without impact. The thing is, if that is what happened, no fragments were ever recovered. So if it is a this meteor or comet that exploded mid air, which Was kind of the leading theory. There would have been fragments below on the ground because if something explodes, well, there are pieces of that explosion, but nothing they found nothing. No definitive proof was ever found. So it opens it up to other theories. Volcanic gas eruptions, alien spacecraft explosions. That's where I like to go. Although it's probably not realistic. But this is one of the most mysterious natural disasters ever recorded because we have no idea what happened, nor have we seen anything like it since. And we all wasn't alive then, obviously. Next up, 1945 Flight 19. On December 5, 1945, five U.S. navy TBM Avenger torpedo bombers left Fort Lauderdale on a routine training flight over the Atlantic. The weather was clear, but about 90 minutes in radio transmissions revealed the pilots were basically lost. Hopelessly lost, that's what they were saying. Lieutenant Charles Taylor, the flight leader, reported faulty compasses and believed they were over the Florida Keys. But navigators later concluded they had likely been heading east into open ocean. Fuel ran low. Taylor instructed the squadron to ditch their planes altogether. They sent out a rescue seaplane. The rescue seaplane vanished as well with 13 men aboard. No wreckage from any of the six planes was ever recorded. The incident became the Bermuda Triangle. Maybe you've heard of the Bermuda Triangle. The Navy officially reported as navigational error and disorientation. But this is where, well, a big part of the United States is lore with the Bermuda Triangle happened. But everybody disappeared. All the compasses started flipping around. I got two more of these. The Voynich manuscript housed at Yale University's Benneke Rare Book and Manuscript Library. This manuscript, again called the Voynich manuscript, is a 240 page book dating back to the early 1400s. It is written in an unknown Alphabet. It features drawings of plants that don't match any known species. Now again, we're going back to the 1400s so they're not trolling. Diagrams of astronomical and zodiac like symptoms. Illustrations of nude women bathing in pools, connected by elaborate plumbing, which again, I'll say it is 1400s. They put the best decoders onto this. Every attempt to decode the text from the code breakers at World War II, which you may have seen movies about to. They've even recently they've stuck the pages of these into AI and that's failed. Some scholars believe it's an encrypted medical or botanical treatise. I don't even know what that means. Others think it's a medieval hoax. It's author, language and purpose still remains one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in literary history. And Then finally, I'll give you one more that I had on my list to talk about. And I think my plan was I was going to invite whomever it was, Eddie, a different guest, to bring some Unsolved Mysteries, that type thing to the podcast and we would go back and forth. And I think I was going to research these out a little more. I think I did mid level research because these are ones that I've heard of just in passing. So I looked them up a little more, but obviously I didn't go into it because there are a couple of these things I didn't even know, but. And then we go back and forth talking about them. That didn't happen and I don't want to lose them. So that's where we are. Final one. The Teos hum in a small town and it could be toast. Taos of Taos, New Mexico. And this is so bizarre. A strange low frequency humming sound has been reported since the early 1990s. About 2% of residents claim to hear it, describing it as a distant diesel engine that is idling. It's constant, it's inescapable, and it's way more noticeable at night. Now, this is about 2% of the population and they don't live together. They don't even know each other. Some of them do now, but it's not like they got together and said, we're all going to act like we hear this. This was all independently reported and it's been happening since the 90s. They have been studying this. Scientists from Los Alamos National Laboratory and other institutions did a bunch of studying. They found no clear origin as to what this sound was that these people were hearing. They weren't living in the exact same part of the city either. Not the same age, not the same part of the city. Not. They have no history of knowing each other. A lot of them didn't. So here we go. We have industrial equipment, though no consistent source has been identified, because you would think if it was and they said, yes, this is obviously, it's this machine over here, this factory, there would be a machine they could tie it to. Next up, high pressure gas lines or electromagnetic interference or psychoacoustic phenomenon. The idea that it's generated by the brain rather than an actual sound wave. For those who hear it, the hum can be maddening, linked to headaches, sleep problems and anxiety. For everybody else, it's pure silence. What is it? Probably. It's probably. If I were guessing on this one, and I'll use the word receptor, I think everybody's receptors are not equal. Some of them are more sensitive. You can say the same thing with, like, vision, with hearing, smelling, with senses. I would say everybody's sensors aren't the same. And I think there's probably something happening there.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
You know what?
Bobby Bones
I bet you some people know what it is, but they can't say what it is because again, if we look at where it is, New Mexico, that's where a lot of the alien stuff is happening. Not to get back on the alien track, but my guess is there's something happening in this area in the desert that they don't want us to know about. And there are people whose sensors are sharpened a bit more or they're on the same frequency to be able to hear this. Also, I'm moving the crap out of that town if this is affecting me. Even if. And I understand you have to stay somewhere because you got a job. Even if I have to stay and work there, I'm moving two towns away and I'm driving into work. If I got to drive in 45 minutes to keep that home from giving me a headache or causing me to go crazy. You got it. I'm in. There you go. There's some mysteries that I was going to bring. I may do this type of show with somebody else, but I didn't want to lose all that because I'm going through my notes now. I'm actually recording this part of it on the Sunday before we go back to work, which is why I'm kind of looking through my notes. We go back to work on the show tomorrow after we had a week's vacation. And so as I was going through all my. Which I'm about to give you all my reviews, and I'm not gonna do any spoilers. I saw this. Okay, so next up, we're going to.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Do.
Bobby Bones
My complete list of. And it's mostly television shows that I've watched. And I'll be quick for the most part. Here we go, the Bobby cast. We'll be right back.
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Bobby Bones
And it tastes delicious.
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Bobby Bones
It grills like beef.
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Bobby Bones
This is the Bobby cast. F1. Oh, that was really good. If you haven't seen it yet, probably about to come out on streaming, I thought it was really good. I don't know anything about F1 racing. I barely know anything about NASCAR. And being from Arkansas, I should know more. I don't know anything about nascar. I have sometimes have drivers on the show and some people freak out, but it'd be like having a soccer player on. Once I got a card, I don't remember who it was, but a card, like a sports card and it was signed and it was a soccer player and I was like, I don't even know what this is. One of my friends freaked out and it's worth like 700 bucks. I had no idea who the player was. It's kind of like that. But F1 was really good and I don't remember the review. I gave it on the show. But I don't think you need to know anything about F1. They kind of walk you through it. But I didn't feel like they were, like, cradling the baby, but I don't know. But I thought Brad Pitt's awesome. Crazy. He's over 60 years old and still looks that good. But F1. Four and a half out of five race cars. I watched New Jurassic Park. It's for kids or dinosaur lovers or people just trying to find some air conditioning. Kind of stupid. Scarlett Johansson's in it. She's good in it. There's a couple other people in it, obviously. I give it two and a half out of five islands with dinosaurs on it. I recommend. You can skip that one. I have Squid Game Season 3. So there are a few movies, some TV shows. Three and a half out of five violent deaths. Squid Game Season 1 is one of the best seasons of television shows I have ever seen. And not really a guy that loves shows in another language. That being said, man, you know who's making the best TV right now? Places that aren't America. Because we've watched, like, seven in a row. So as much as I say I don't like it, we turn the English subtitles on and we make them speak English in case we look at our phone. Squid Game season one, excellent. Season two, good. Season three. But you gotta watch it because that's the end. I'll say no more. There's a show called Criminal Record. It's a British show. It's about an investigator. I'm gonna be quick. It's two out of five. Don't watch it. Some of the. Some of this. I don't remember the shows. There's a show called Nobody. Now, what I'm gonna do here, though, because it says four and a half out of five. Oh, I know what it is. Yeah. Okay, so here's what I'm gonna say. Bob Odenkirk is the guy in Nobody. He's Better Call Saul. Better Call. Yeah. And from Breaking Bad than his own series. Obviously, if you're just looking for a movie that is pow, pow, punch, punch, kick, kick. It's awesome. It's not that long. And I think I watched it one night after my wife had gone to sleep because I saw that Nobody 2 was coming out. And I think I saw that on the preview of F1 and I was like, Nobody 2? I never heard of Nobody 1. So I went back and I watched Nobody 1 four and a half out of five. I'm not going to say it's John Wick because John Wick is in a class of its own when it comes to action movies. That's simple. And it's like, it's just action. Like there's a plot for sure, but nothing in depth. You can go to the bathroom, come back, you didn't miss anything. Except maybe a few kicks to the throat. But if you like that kind of movie, Nobody is awesome. 4 out of 5. No, 4.5 out of 5. Explosions. Boom. If you're over on Amazon, there's a movie called Head of State. Idris Elba and John Cena are in it. It's pretty good. It's worth the time. If there's nothing else to watch, it's action. It's kind of funny. If Idris Elba is in it, you know it's going to be at least invested in by the company that made it. So it's a little kooky, it's a little funny, there's some action, but I'm going to give that three and a half out of five presidents. Head of State. Boom. There's a show called Treason. Now this is a British show. The guy that's in Daredevil, he actually plays Daredevil. He's the blind superhero. Treason's pretty good. I believe it's on Netflix. I give that three and a half out of five MI5s or MI6. I wonder what the difference is in MI5 and MI6, because I think that's like CIA, FBI. I don't really know the difference. I can ask what's the difference in MI5 and MI6?
Expert/Analyst (explaining MI5/MI6 and Occam's Razor)
Absolutely. So MI5 and MI6 are basically two different branches of the United Kingdom's intelligence services, and they have different areas of focus. MI5 is essentially the UK's domestic intelligence agency. They're kind of like the British equivalent of the FBI in the us. Their main job is to protect national security within the uk, so they focus on things like counterterrorism, counterespionage and domestic threats. MI6, on the other hand, is the UK's foreign intelligence service. They're more like the British equivalent of the CIA. They operate outside of the UK and gather intelligence internationally to support the UK's foreign policy and national security interests. And yes, MI6 is the one that you see in all those James Bond movies. So In a nutshell, MI5 is domestic security, MI6 is international intelligence.
Bobby Bones
So MI6, I believe, is what they are. Pretty good.
Interviewer (likely Bobby Bones or a co-host)
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Three and a half out of five close range gun battles. I watched Alice in Borderland. Alice in Borderland is a show that is very similar to Squid Games. Now, Squid Games is South Korea. Alice in Borderland is Japan. And if I didn't know any better when I watched Alice in Borderland, I would have thought they stole Squid Games. Turns out Alice in Borderland came out a few months before Squid Games. Same ish idea. If you can remove the. Hey, I'm kind of irritated because this is very much like Squid Games because it's not exactly like Squid Games. Basically, someone's calling the gate. Hold on one second. Okay, Amazon, let them in. Basically, they're somewhere. They don't really know how they got there. And now they got to stay alive. So there's that component to it where they have to play games to stay alive, which Squid Games is kind of like that too. But I really liked season one. I would give season one four out of five. Ace of Spades. Now season two, it was pretty good. I would give that three out of five. King of Clubs. And there is a season three coming out, I believe, September or October. I did go watch Superman. I thought Superman was good. It was a lot more colorful and a lot more kid like than I would have expected. I liked the dark, gritty Iron Man, Dark Knight, that type stuff. But I thought it was good. I give it three and a half out of five. Men of Steel. I watched Fantastic Four. I thought Fantastic Four was better than Superman. I think that is an opinion I don't share with many people. But I didn't think it was good. And so I will give that a four out of five. Stretchy superheroes. I just watched that show. Amy Bradley is missing. I think that's what it's called. And it's only three episodes and they're like 45 minutes each. And it's about a woman going on a cruise ship basically, in the late 90s, and she goes missing. I. It's hard to say you enjoy something like that. So if I'm separating myself from what the actual reality of the show is, I thought it was a pretty good show. And I do have a lot of questions. And I think that I'd probably theorize here what had happened, but I don't want to spoil it. How about this? I'm going to talk about it now. I'm going to say only the things that I knew before I started watching the show. So this could be a half spoiler. But it's not going to be. It's not going to be. But if you want to not hear this you can turn the podcast off now if you haven't already. Okay, we're back. Amy Bradley is still missing, and I knew that before I started watching the show. My theory. It's not my theory. The theory that I think happened, I think probably she fell off the boat. I mean, that is the least sexy of all the theories. But the family, they are dedicated to finding her, and there are a lot of eyewitnesses that saw her alive after she left the boat. So I wouldn't bet a whole lot on it. But if I were to guess. What is it? Occam's razor. You familiar with the Occam's Razor? I could explain it where the most simple thing usually is the thing, but I'll have my assistant do it. Would you explain Occam's Razor?
Expert/Analyst (explaining MI5/MI6 and Occam's Razor)
Absolutely. So Occam's razor is this handy little philosophical principle that basically says when you've got a few different explanations for something, the simplest one is usually the best place to start. In other words, you don't want to multiply assumptions or make things more complicated than they need to be be. It's not a hard and fast rule that the simplest explanation is always correct, but it's a really good guiding principle. It just nudges you to avoid adding unnecessary complications when a simpler explanation will do the trick.
Bobby Bones
So Occam's razor is kind of what I've inserted into this because there are a lot of theories. It's good, though, again, weird to say it's good because it's a tragic story. And if it were my sister, my mom, my kid, whatever that is, I think I would be going crazy, too. If you never had any sort of finality. I don't think it's a word, but check it out. I give it four out of five cruise ships. So I did watch the SEC show. Very much sports. I like that a lot better than I thought I would. I didn't really want to watch it and then find myself rooting for other SEC teams. The people I already liked, I still like. The people I didn't like that much. Well, I didn't really know to begin with, but I thought South Carolina came off awesome. Shane Beamer, like, I've spent time with him, but he. Yeah, like, we did some sports stuff with him. I've had a little communication with him afterward, like, privately. He came off awesome. Good dude. Who else did I like on the show? I thought Clark Lee from Vanderbilt. Like, that's a dude I'd want to play for. Well, I wish I could play, period. But that's a deal I want to play for. I thought that was awesome. Brian Kelly from LSU came off exactly like I thought he would like. Not very likable. Good football coach, not a likable dude. All right, well that's all I got. I can now clear all this off my notes. Thanks to Lanny for being with us and we got some other good episodes coming up real soon. Dirk Spentley. We'll be sitting with him and that's it. Appreciate you guys and we'll see you soon. Bye.
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Lainey Wilson
This is an I Heart podcast.
Date: August 22, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Lainey Wilson
This episode of the Bobbycast features country superstar Lainey Wilson in a candid, wide-ranging conversation recorded for an Amazon Prime/ACM special—now aired in full for the first time. Bobby Bones and Lainey dive deep into how fame has impacted her, the vital role her loved ones play in keeping her grounded, her evolving relationship with perfectionism, creativity, and self-grace, and stories of career milestones. Afterward, Bobby shares and reviews his personal summer notes on TV, movies, and unsolved mysteries, offering his trademark enthusiasm and humor.
"I don't see a day where I'm not staring at my calendar." — Lainey Wilson (04:08)
"I'm not going to say that I've always done the best job at that, but I feel like I'm... coming out of the fog." — Lainey Wilson (05:40)
"My fiancé, Duck, reminds me to be human... helps me keep my feet on the ground." — Lainey Wilson (05:50)
"It's been a big adjustment for my folks back at home... there's a few people who have, like, come out of the woodworks and acting like we're cousins." — Lainey Wilson (06:42)
Despite fame, her family back home is mostly treated the same, though some “cousins” have suddenly appeared.
"It's been a juggling act, but I have had to force that time... like, to just get bored and watch paint dry." — Lainey Wilson (08:01)
"You don't even know what you're getting yourself into. But it's like, the most rewarding thing you'll ever do. Also the hardest thing you'll ever do, all kind of wrapped in one." — Lainey Wilson (09:07)
"Them people on Facebook ain't got nothing on me... you think you can hurt me? I can hurt myself." — Lainey Wilson (10:52)
"If you do the 80% rule, it gives you that 20% window and wiggle room to not let yourself down so much." — Lainey Wilson (14:43)
"I don't want to take advice from people who aren't where I want to be ... my mama will tell me, she’ll be like, I don't think that one is as good as you think it is." — Lainey Wilson (16:58)
"I try not to take criticism of people I don't take advice from. And I commend your relationship with your fans online because I see how dedicated you are." — Interviewer (18:07)
"I hope they feel like they do know me because I really feel like I know them... there's a true, genuine connection." — Lainey Wilson (18:28)
"For her to call me and deliver that news, I was like, this is Miranda Lambert calling me... She told me she felt like she was passing the baton. And that meant a lot to me." — Lainey Wilson (19:05)
"You can sit around and dream about that day happening all you want. But, like, when it actually does, you can't help but just be like, okay, like I told myself I was going to be here, but, like, this really—this is really happening." — Lainey Wilson (20:54)
"Entertainer of the Year, that is the biggest title... It's still something that I can't believe, like, happened as early on as it did." — Lainey Wilson (22:22)
"They taught me a lot before I ever even knew them... now that I can call them friends ... she just willingly sends me like, pages of wisdom, that shows you why she is where she is." — Lainey Wilson (24:13)
"No amount of awards and accolades and money and stardom and all of these things will ever like, take her away from the things that make her her. And that's inspiring to me." — Lainey Wilson (25:25)
After the Lainey Wilson interview, Bobby transitions (29:49) into a rapid-fire segment covering unsolved mysteries, TV, and movie reviews.
The interview is warm, respectful, and deeply personal—Lainey is open about her struggles, doubts, and triumphs, while Bobby’s admiration and friendship shine through. There’s humor, country realness, and lots of quotable wisdom about work ethic, staying grounded, accepting imperfection, and remaining authentic. The episode flows into Bobby’s entertaining pop-culture banter, delivering both heart and levity.
This episode is a must-listen for fans of country music, creatives navigating new success, or anyone seeking inspiration from someone who’s as real as she is talented. The honest Lainey Wilson interview alone is worth your time—and Bobby’s rapid-fire reviews round out a fun hour with curiosity and TV tips for your list.