A (2:37)

I'm 12 years old, averaging 35 points a game and I'm diamond the ball off and they're not doing nothing with it. Much love to anyone on my team. I love you guys.

B (2:48)

Welcome to episode 559 with Maddox Batson. I think you said it best. I think you said this is our first guest who did not have a driver's license and had to be driven over to the house. Yeah, they couldn't drive themselves to the interview and not because it expired, but because they're just not old enough to have a driver's license. Yeah, he's 15. And so I get. There are always teen stars, but you just don't expect. Because Maddox is a cool. He's a cool 15 year old. You just don't expect it to be bluegrass. Could you imagine yourself coming into an interview at 15 years old like this? Like, how would you conduct yourself at 15? Yeah, I don't know. Like, I thought of me at 15, I'm like, dude, I would sound like an idiot. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I didn't think about it like that. My whole thing was he's playing such traditional old school music. Like it is a blue. It's a bluegrass kid that comes in and we talk about way later on, like how he loved playing basketball and how good he was. That was on Mike, right?

A (3:45)

Yeah.

B (3:46)

So, like he's just a regular kid who played bluegrass. But you're right, 15 years old, his dad came with him. But his dad didn't come with him just because he's his dad. His dad's like, when he blew up online, he was already playing shows, but when he blew up online, his dad was playing a lot of stuff with him because his dad's an instrumentalist, a musician. So, yeah, really enjoyed it. Good kid. I feel like he's a good kid now. What they have to do is make sure he stays a good kid because once you get about 17 to 20, those are the dicey years. Loved it. Check out maddoxbatson.com for dates and tickets. He just announced a new world tour. He's going all over the place. He's got some Christmas songs out, a couple covers last Christmas and I'll be home for Christmas. But we talk about where's he from, Nashville or Alabama because he kind of bounced back and forth. But he's a bluegrass kid. I hope you like it. Here he is my new friend, but only when other adults are around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maddox Batson. That's the only time he's coming over. That's right. That's right. He's only coming over if his dad's with him. Yes. Maddox.

A (4:43)

Good to see you, buddy. Good to see you.

B (4:45)

I know last time we tried to do this, I think I was. I had the flu or something.

A (4:47)

Yeah. So we were gonna try to do it, like, before my tour, and then, you know, just had a conflict with your flu and my torso. Now it's. Now I saw that.

B (4:55)

Speaking of your tour, I saw, like, an announcement maybe this morning. I think I read it on my show. Like, you're doing, like, a worldwide tour?

A (5:02)

First ever. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Dude, I've never been over the pond. I was literally before this. Me and my dad were on the way to, you know, go get my passport photo. Like, you don't have it yet? No, I do not. I don't have my license. I have zero identification of any sort, Any kind. So, yeah, I was on the way to get that, and then, you know, realize we didn't have enough time. So.

B (5:20)

Wait, so you didn't take the picture?

A (5:21)

No, we didn't get to. I was taking a left, and then I was like, I probably don't have enough time, so.

B (5:25)

Popped a right thing about a passport picture. It always sucks.

A (5:29)

Really? Yeah. That's not good because you got to.

B (5:32)

Like, stand like a. Against a white wall.

A (5:34)

You're not allowed to smile. Yeah.

B (5:36)

You look like you're about to murder someone or about to commit a crime or something.

A (5:39)

She said terrible. I'm not excited for it. Where are you most excited to go? Honestly? I heard we're going to Dublin, aren't we? Yeah, Ireland. And just like, that type of stuff over there is just going to be super cool. Like, I've always wanted to just, you know, just go to Europe in general and just, you know, scope it out. So I'm a huge golfer as well, so if we get to go play, like, St. Andrews or something, that would be kind of cool as well. I don't know if we'll have time.

B (6:01)

But that's what you make time for.

A (6:03)

Exactly.

B (6:04)

You get to go to Dublin every week.

A (6:06)

Exactly. I mean, I'm not, you know, you know, over there all the time, so if I have, like, even, like a few hours off, I'd love to, you know, catch a little. Catch a little ride to Mr. Old St. Andrews. That'd be. That'd be kind of cool.

B (6:17)

Are you playing? It's starting to be winter now, but Were you playing a lot of golf?

A (6:20)

Oh, all the time, dude. Like, I think we played 21 rounds of golf while I was on tour for two months. And that's. That's kind of unhealthy. I mean, technically, it's not unhealthy because you're getting, you know, fit doing it kind of. I don't know about golf.

B (6:32)

Well, if you're carding it, I don't know how fit you're going to get.

A (6:34)

Walk or card it. I definitely car. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.

B (6:37)

You got a show to do, too.

A (6:38)

Exactly. I got to stay rested.

B (6:39)

Kind.

A (6:39)

Kinda. Yeah.

B (6:41)

What's difficult is because we'd go play golf when I do stand up and we'd play golf, but the sun would, like, wear me down.

A (6:47)

Really?

B (6:48)

Yeah. Like, you're out in the sun, so.

A (6:49)

You'Re wearing one of those big hats.

B (6:50)

Well, I just. You just have to, like, you know, you'd play 18 and you'd be like, I'm not affected at all. But you'd get to the venue and be tired.

A (6:56)

Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yeah.

B (6:57)

Well, that's young, though.

A (6:58)

Yeah. That's my perks, as I was just about to say, you know, Perk of being 15 years old is, you know, the sun doesn't wear me down too bad, you know, So I think for being as bad as a golfer as I am, the 20 rounds didn't really help me become a better golfer, but it definitely helped me, like, take my mind off of some things. Because, you know, while you're on tour, you can, you know, kind of get in your head about all kinds of different stuff and just having those few hours to yourself or with a few buddies to just, you know, forget about everything. But the next shot that you're taking, it helps more than people know for sure.

B (7:27)

Your family come out on tour with you?

A (7:29)

Oh, absolutely. Full family. Mom, dad, sister. And they're all working with me, too, which is super fun. Like, my dad, you know, he works with me, my sister works with me, my cousin, my mom. I mean, she kind of just chills, you know. I'd rather her chill because, I mean, she deserves it. She raised me. So.

B (7:43)

Your dad did too, though, to be fair.

A (7:45)

Absolutely. He. But he wants to. He wants to, you know, he's ready to go. He's ready to go. Mom's like, I'll take us. I'll take a step back and, you know, I'll let her have that for sure. But, like, my cousin as well, so they all kind of. We all Kind of work hand in hand, which is super cool. And they're the only people on the planet that'll never expect anything from me other than just Maddox. So that's why I love them the most.

B (8:05)

Yeah, I think people, if they didn't know your background, would be surprised that you have such a bluegrass history.

A (8:12)

Absolutely. I mean, just with him and, you know, just like my entire come up, I was. I was kind of born into it. Like. He was a mandolin national champion when he was like 12, my dad.

B (8:21)

You were?

A (8:22)

Yeah, yeah. He got to play with Bill Monroe on stage and stuff like that. So, yeah, he's. He's a legend. Unfortunately, being left handed, I play everything, every instrument right handed. And it's kind of awkward. I'm not very fast picker, but, you know, I try my best. Mandolin's such a cool instrument, but yeah, my entire life I was grew. I grew up on bluegrass music and maybe if I didn't love it as much as a kid, I'm kind of like showing an appreciation for it.

B (8:44)

What's the first instrument you got and how old were you?

A (8:46)

First instrument I ever started playing. I'd say I think it was piano. I was like 7. My mom wanted me to start on piano before I did a stringed instrument just so I can learn like music theory and music like her. Learn how to read music. She always wanted me to learn how to read music and. Yeah. Shout out to Adam King, my piano teacher. I took lessons for around like four years. Consistently. Consistently. What's the word?

B (9:09)

Consistently.

A (9:09)

There it is. Perfect, you know, 15 year old. 15 years old, homeschooled. I can't really say many words, but, you know, piano was definitely number one. And then I was like 10 when I picked up guitar and like Covid and stuff. Yeah.

B (9:22)

Whenever you're learning piano, was it something that you liked doing even at that age?

A (9:27)

If I'm being completely honest with you, Bobby, absolutely. Like, not at all. At all. I. It was a complete, like forced, like forced. My mom had to force me to do it. I love to sing and. I love to sing at like church and like, sing. Growing up, like with my dad and stuff. But playing the piano, playing, like reading the, Reading the, like, absolutely not. You couldn't, like, you couldn't pay me to do it. But as I grew older and started appreciating music a little bit more and appreciating that girls appreciate music and that kind of stuff, I would, you know, lean into it a little bit more. Like, yeah, I can play, you know.

B (9:59)

So are you happy now that you have that background of piano?

A (10:01)

Absolutely, absolutely. Because it benefits me so much because like with my band I always felt like I didn't know what I was talking about. And then knowing having, like, not necessarily not knowing what I was talking about, but like they're so good at what they do and they know like everything about music theory. You know, they kind of put me in my place. But knowing having that little bit of background of piano makes me understand and that just, you know, it's, it's, it's very beneficial for sure. I'm super glad. Shout out mom. Thanks.

B (10:27)

Shout out mom.

A (10:28)

Thank you so much for making me do it against my will.

B (10:30)

Shout out mom.

A (10:30)

Thank you.

B (10:31)

Whenever you started playing guitar, were you super anxious to get started on guitar? Was it like something you were looking forward to, like you graduating from piano?

A (10:38)

Absolutely. And then I picked it up and realized my fingers hurt really bad. I started taking. I didn't like, he, he plays guitar really well. And you know, I didn't really have to get like a teacher quote unquote. Like I had a teacher, but it's kind of, you know, it was like once a month maybe, but it was.

B (10:54)

Really not as good as your dad.

A (10:55)

Exactly, exactly. And I would just, I would just learn from him and pick stuff up from him and he would teach me things and you know, my hands would hurt all the time and I didn't want to play. I wanted to play. It was like I wanted to play but it hurt so bad. And that's. It was, it was a whole thing. But once I started building those calluses, I mean, I played all the time.

B (11:11)

Well, I play left handed, but I play left handed.

A (11:13)

Really?

B (11:14)

Yeah.

A (11:14)

So awesome. So you play this way?

B (11:15)

Yeah, So I play. Yeah, I play this. Why, why do you flip it if you're left handed?

A (11:19)

I'll tell you right now. When I picked it up, when I picked up the guitar at 10 years old, my dad told me, I was like, dude, if you go to a party, what are the odds that left handed guitar is going to be sitting on the wall and there's a girl you want to impress? And I was like, dude, you're so right.

B (11:34)

He's so right.

A (11:35)

He's so right. You know? And I was like, all right, I'll thug it out and learn it right handed? I mean it's. Now I don't think I could switch. Like, I'm so used to playing it right handed. I truly don't think I could switch to playing it left handed. It feels so Weird.

B (11:47)

The difficult things about being left handed. And you'll know this first of all guitars, right? There's. There are no other left handed guitars anywhere.

A (11:53)

No.

B (11:53)

And people are playing songs and like if I don't, if I don't bring mine. Yeah, I don't have one.

A (11:57)

Yeah, you don't get to play or.

B (11:58)

I'm like gc just like telling somebody what to play.

A (12:02)

Yeah.

B (12:02)

Ball gloves.

A (12:03)

Ball. Oh, terrible. Like equipment in any sport. Any sport. Like literally. I remember I was, I played baseball growing up and, and that was the worst because the gloves didn't look as cool. Like I remember like Wilson makes like really colorful like and that was like the style like and I played outfield and I was a pitcher and stuff like that. And they made really, really colorful like nice cool gloves for righties, but for lefties they made nothing, just outfielders gloves, huge 13 inch gloves that my 11 year old hand didn't fit in. And I was, I was mad. But you know, I finally found me one and I still have it to this day. It's like my favorite glove and I use it all the time.

B (12:40)

Like your one.

A (12:41)

It's my one glove color.

B (12:42)

Left handed glove.

A (12:43)

Oh, it's not colorful. No, it's. Oh, it's still the. It's just basic. It's just tan. It's basic. But you know, I like it a lot. And now that I've grown up a little bit, I'm like, yeah, this kind of looks much better than the pink and blue and black and you know, neon.

B (12:55)

I feel like. And just watching the relationship that you and your dad have even had just here, Here.

A (13:00)

Absolutely.

B (13:01)

Like for you guys to grow up, be dad and son, to also be teacher and student, to also be like mentor, like that's a lot. I feel like you guys are still like getting along.

A (13:11)

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I mean I spend every day with them, you know, and that's kind of like most kids, like a normal, you know, 15 year old, you know, you go to school seven hours, you go to practice after, maybe you do another extracurricular and then you come home and spend time with your parents. Right. But for me as, I mean I spend every day with him every day, every hour, every minute. I mean pretty much, you know, because I'm on the road all the time and even when I'm home, I don't really do much, you know, I'm more, I just like to chill. So I'm with him a lot and surprisingly, you know, I mean, of course we get on each other's Nerves. And I mean, that's just the way it's going to be. But, you know, we're very, very close relationship and I, I take a lot of, you know, that's, that means a lot to me, you know, because, like, having your family close, I mean, is so beneficial, especially in the music industry. Music industry, it's such like a cutthroat business and having them that, you know, to make great decisions for you and, you know, will help you make those decisions. Because at 15, as much as I think I know everything, I definitely don't. So, like, having you never will know everything. No.

B (14:10)

All these ages is like, I think I got it now.

A (14:12)

Yeah, exactly. And you never got, you know, even when I'm like, you know, close to being dead and gone, I'll think of everything and, you know, figure out that there's so much. Oh, for sure. Stuff that I got to learn and that's just the way it is. And that's. I mean, we have a very close relationship and I'm very thankful for it.

B (14:26)

What about school? Do you homeschool?

A (14:28)

Yeah, homeschool. I just, I had school this morning.

B (14:30)

So what is that? Like, what, what's homeschool?

A (14:32)

So basically it's like two times a week and it's like lectures for around two hours. So I'm like doubling down after I got off tour for on tour, it was like two times a week, one hour. Right. But now it's two times a week, two hours, and then I'll have homework throughout the week. It's relatively easy. It's just enough to get me by so I can get my diploma because I'd. I don't want to, you know, be 25 and be like, man, I kind of, kind of wish I got my diploma. So I just want to, you know, go ahead and get that over with and, you know, get as many points as I can. Maybe go to college when I'm a little bit older as well.

B (15:02)

So if you take music out and let's say you take sports out, like, what do you do? Like, what does a 15 year old do?

A (15:08)

What would I do if I didn't like now?

B (15:10)

Like, what do you do?

A (15:11)

No, I don't know what a 15.

B (15:12)

Year old does anymore.

A (15:13)

Dude, what would I, what do I do? Dude, I'm kind of an old guy now. I spent. I hang out with so many old people. Like, I collect watches and I golf. Like, that's like, that's my, that's my hobbies. It's kind of weird. I hunt all the Time, you know, I'm a bit. I'm a huge hunter and I love doing that. And that kind of just. I love. I kind of like, I'm starting to appreciate alone time more than I used to. Like, I used to be like, hey, I never want to be alone because like. And I just make it. Then you'll get in your head and you start thinking too much, like, this is the way I am. And I've always wanted to have people around me to just bounce ideas off of and just talk to, you know, I'm a big talker, so I've always wanted to have people around. But like, hunting kind of like chills me out. When I'm out there by myself, I can just, you know, think about the good things and maybe even think about the bad things. But, you know, that kind of stuff. I mean. But yeah, like I said, I'm kind of a. Kind of an older guy. I'm definitely an old 15 year old. I mean, I definitely have buddies and, you know, I hang out with them every now and then for sure. And I'm very thankful for them. They're keeping me young, you know, But I just hang around so many old guys that it, you know, I'm doing all kinds of old stuff too.

B (16:18)

So. What about watches? How'd you get into watches, dude?

A (16:20)

Like I said, like, I'm hanging like my manager, he's a huge watch guy. My lawyer's a huge watch guy.

B (16:25)

The fact that you have a lawyer. Yeah, you're an old man.

A (16:27)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a lawyer. Yeah. Too many cases. But yeah, they got me into it and I like how they're made a very big appreciation to towards them. I got my dad a. What? What is that? A yacht master. I got him a yacht master for his birthday and I'm getting a day date like this week. So I'm like, I just love collecting them. It's just super fun for me. And I just. I'm a huge John Mayer fan and John Mayer is a huge watch guy and I kind of like took inspo from him and yeah, I'm just a. Just an old soul man.

B (16:58)

John Mayer's my favorite artist.

A (17:00)

Yeah, he's my favorite artist of all time.

B (17:02)

Yeah. Favorite, favorite album.

A (17:04)

Probably like the. The Edge of Desire album. That's my favorite song. I can't remember the name of the album. I think it was.

B (17:11)

I'm a big, like, everybody loves Continuum.

A (17:15)

Because it's like, it's the most cloud. Like everyone knows the song.

B (17:19)

Yeah, that's like when he kind of changed his sound a bit. And also it kind of went from, like, kid to adult.

A (17:26)

Battle studies is the name of the battle. Thank you. Came out on my birthday, actually. I think it was either November 13th or December 13th, 2009. Like, literally my date of birth is when that album came out, which is super cool.

B (17:38)

I like Born and Raised, and a lot of people don't love Born and raised because it's more of a southwestern type flair.

A (17:44)

Absolutely.

B (17:44)

But I really enjoyed that record from John Mayer.

A (17:47)

It's a great record.

B (17:47)

What is it about him that makes you love his music?

A (17:51)

Dude, he's just. He's just a sad guy, you know, I mean, it's just like, I love the way he can make the guitar sing. There's not many artists that can, you know, do that. And I love to take inspiration from him. I mean, I don't make many songs like John, but, you know, it's. It's still cool to just listen to him. And, like, when I'm by myself and, you know, I'm on a plane ride, I'm always listening to him. And it's just. He's just a guy I can kind of, like, resonate with. He makes music that. It's just. I don't know, I just love listening to it. It just makes me.

B (18:20)

You know, he was the first songwriter that I ever heard that, like, wrote from my perspective really, like, ever.

A (18:27)

Yeah.

B (18:28)

Because, again, I've loved music my whole life, but it was hearing John Mayer write songs about the way I felt, not just writing songs about how he felt, but he wrote songs. I was like, oh, man, that's how I feel. Like, he was that first songwriter for me.

A (18:41)

Yeah.

B (18:41)

So as much as, you know, he has bangers.

A (18:44)

Yeah.

B (18:45)

Like, his songwriting, to me.

A (18:46)

Yeah.

B (18:47)

Was super important in, like, my musical growth.

A (18:50)

Yeah. It was. Truthfully, like. Like some songs, like. Like I was saying, Edge of desire is my favorite. Edge of Desire and in your atmosphere are my two favorite John songs. And, like, I covered Edge of Desire, like, a year ago, and I was covering it during my set, and, like, I doubt anyone in the crowd knew what that song was. But I remember playing. I was playing Brooklyn Bowl. I was playing Brooklyn Bowl a few days after my birthday last year. Sold out show. And my aunt was there, and I was playing it, and I had it. I mean, great song. And no one really knew what the song was. I was just like, hey, I'm just gonna play this for you guys, because I. True. I truly love it.

B (19:27)

You're doing it for you.

A (19:28)

Yeah, I was doing it for me, you know, I was doing it for me. I wanted to play it. And I found out later that it was my aunt's wedding song, which was kind of, it was cool. It was awesome. It was just like a, I didn't even know it, you know, and then I got off stage and found that out and it's just like the coolest thing. And I, I think his music just, you know, you can play it throughout very like various occasions, if that makes sense. You can play it anytime. You know, you can play it, you're sad, you can play it at a house party, you can play it, you know, at a wedding. You know, you can play it pretty much anywhere. And I think he's a very versatile, versatile artist for sure.

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B (23:40)

And we're back on the Bobby cast. Who are your favorite artists? If you were doing Mount Rushmore. Four artists.

A (23:46)

Four. Wow. Mount Rushmore.

B (23:48)

You don't need to be in a format.

A (23:49)

It's just. Okay.

B (23:50)

Who do you love?

A (23:51)

Sheesh. Great, great question. John Mayer for sure. Keith Willie.

B (24:02)

Is that from your dad's influence?

A (24:04)

Yeah, dad's influence for sure. I took influence from my parents, my grandparents and my sister. My sister's 12 years older than me, so I'd get a lot of musical influence from her. When I was like 5, she was driving, so she would just drive me around all the time and put on ox. So I'd listen to like Justin Bieber and Usher and Chris Brown and you know, One Direction and all those guys with her number three, I'd have to say George Jones just because he's, I mean, a legend. I mean, I'm not going to say I listen to him all the time, but I think I love his voice. He could hit, like, every octave, you know, it's like, one of the only artists I could do that. And then I'll give you another. Like, I love. This is a very underrated pull. If. This is a very subjective thing. Like, if you asked me last week, I'd probably have another four artists. John Mayer is pretty solidified, but, like, these guys are kind of, you know, it depends on the day, but I'd probably say. Number four is, like, Ed Sheeran, like. Like another guy like that. Just a, you know, complete curveball from everyone else. But, like, I mean, think about it. If you really think about, like, Ed Sheeran's songs, dude, he's. He's a legend, and he's got, like, so many bangers and so many just amazing songs and just amazing songwriter.

B (25:26)

And have you seen him perform live?

A (25:27)

I haven't, dude. I wish. I know he's making mad bank, too, because he's on a stage the size of this.

B (25:33)

Yeah. No overhead. Walks up there by himself.

A (25:35)

It's literally just him, a loop pedal.

B (25:37)

A guitar and piano, an arena, or a stadium.

A (25:39)

Yeah, and. Yeah, exactly.

B (25:41)

All that ticket money.

A (25:42)

All of it. Yeah, literally all of it. No production cost.

B (25:44)

You've had to learn all about that now, right? Like, overhead.

A (25:47)

Oh, yeah, dude. It's. It's bad. It stinks. He definitely knows. You know, I. I mean, I try to incorporate my. Myself into the business as much as I can, but, you know, I have to accept the fact that I definitely don't know everything. You know, kind of like I said earlier, and I'm learning for sure. And I learned from him, and I learned from, you know, guys on my team and that kind of stuff on how everything works. So when I'. You know, that's. I can. I can go out and do this by myself and not get taken advantage of or anything like that. And that's why I started at 15, you know, I mean, because, like, of course, when I was, you know, first starting to do this and, you know, I was going to Texas with my dad and started performing and started picking up a little bit of traction on social media and all this kind of stuff, and people were reaching out, it was definitely question, you know, like, dang, do we want to do this? We want to pull them out of school. Do we want to do all this kind of stuff? And I think it was my mom that they were in the bed. They were, like, talking about it. My mom was crying. He was probably crying all this kind of stuff she turned around. He's like, well, if we do it now, then we can help him, you know, because he's gonna do it at 18 anyway. You know, he's gonna do something like this, you know, when he's a little bit older anyway. And when he's older, then we can't help him, you know, but we can help him now. And that's, I mean that was like pretty much the turning point decision is when they were like, I guess, yeah, you're right. And I'm super blessed that she made that decision because I'd be, I'd be, I'd be lost. I wouldn't know what to do without these guys. And you know, I've learned so much from them and just super thankful for sure.

B (27:12)

Talk about your dad and you going to Texas, like that was like once a month.

A (27:16)

Oh, dude. Not months do. We were down there probably for a solid year playing three four hour sets in the Texas heat.

B (27:24)

How often would you go down?

A (27:26)

I'd say like two, two, three times a month maybe. Wow. Yeah. And we make that from. We make that drive from, you know, Birmingham to like Dallas Fort Worth. And I would play in front of 10 people who didn't care, you know, it's just me and him and a guitar and we thought we were living it up, you know. And I was playing three four hour sets, opening up for, you know, who knows, right? I mean, actually I do know. I mean, some of my favorite guys, his name's Taylor Branch, he's a really cool guy. And I got to open up for him one time and like Ryder Grimes, he was another mentor of mine. He was like 18 years old. I brought him out on tour with me, you know, and I'm just super thankful for that, like Texas grassroots country that I got to, you know, go experience because I didn't want to be a guy that's known and, you know, got my start behind a screen, you know, and that was like a huge thing for me and my dad and just a whole decision as a, you know, group that I wanted to learn how to play live. I wanted to go, you know, experience what it is. Because quite honestly that helps more than people know. And that's why I think performing is one of my better parts of, you know, my artistry is because I would go play at those four hour sets in 110 degree Texas heat and no one cared, you know, and have to endure like realize that you have to put on a show for really people to turn ahead. And that Was, I mean it was, it was something that I learned and I'm glad I did it. I wouldn't trade it for anything. And now, you know, I go up on stage and I'm playing in front of thousands of people each night who, you know, sing my, sing every single lyric to every single song I have. And it's just like I still put on that same show that if it was at a winery with fiance's who were planning their wedding who weren't listening to me, you know, it's the same. I'm putting on music back. Yeah, I know. Seriously, that was my first show. May 20, 2023 was my first show and I was wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers jersey. I'm a Steelers fan. And it was in my hometown, probably like 15 minutes away from my house. And I was playing, I was playing an hour, I was playing probably two, three hours, probably a three hour gig, me and my dad. And there's probably, you know, 20 girls there planning their wedding and they didn't care, you know, and that's fine. You know, I was playing, I was playing my covers anyway, so I didn't care, you know, and I wouldn't trade it for nothing. I'm super glad I did it.

B (29:42)

Do you feel like because you're so young, people think that you did come from behind a screen first?

A (29:47)

Oh, absolutely. And that's just like what are you gonna do about it? You know, there's some people that are just, they did they just have that closed mind and they're gonna think that no matter what, you know, haters gonna hate. But to the people that have an open mind and are like curious on truly how I got my start is it wasn't, you know, I mean of course some of it was, you know, and I would post online and do all that kind of stuff and I would go live with my dad. But also I was putting in the work a lot. It was a lot, a lot of hard work. You know, I would like, I just said I would go play live all and I would beg to go play live because I just love, you know, making that connection with people, you know, because you can't do that over a screen. You can't like, you can't love somebody over a screen. You can't make a connection with people over a screen. You can't do many things over a screen, but what you can do in person is make a connection, you know, and that's, I, I learned that and I'm glad I got to carry that over. And yeah, it's just I did to an extent, but I also put in a lot of work behind the scenes that a lot of people that kind of gets, like, you know, overpassed because TikTok was a. Or social media in general is a big part for sure.

B (30:59)

Yeah. I don't feel like you are a legitimate screen kid with music, because I do. You're playing a lot of shows.

A (31:05)

Yes. And.

B (31:06)

And not taking anything away from screen kids.

A (31:08)

Yeah, of course.

B (31:08)

Or screen adults.

A (31:09)

Yeah.

B (31:10)

Like, it's just another way to get discovered.

A (31:11)

Yeah.

B (31:12)

But there are people that I know that are now big artists who were discovered on TikTok, and they're massive artists.

A (31:17)

Absolutely.

B (31:17)

But they had to, like, learn all the live performance stuff after they had already popped. And that's an awkward place to be when there are people watching you and you really don't know what you're doing, but you're already famous for doing it.

A (31:29)

Yeah, absolutely. And that's why I'm super blessed that I did it before. You know, I didn't necessarily have that. I mean, I. I'm not gonna say I did it before my first ever TikTok video, but I definitely did it before I had like a hundred thousand followers. I was doing all that kind of stuff with like 10,000 followers maybe, you know, and I was, you know, I was posting consistently, but I wasn't just posting in my house. I was posting, you know, come out to the show tonight here at, you know, Sidekicks bar and Grill at, you know, the dive bar at Texas where I just got. At 13 years old. I probably just got, you know, free pool quarters to go play pool, but I didn't get anything else other than that. But, yeah, it's, you know, I mean, I'm thankful for it for sure because it taught me a lot of things about, you know, a lot of performing.

B (32:19)

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B (35:55)

This is the bobbycast. So do you get to anything cool like go to New York or la?

A (36:00)

Yeah, yeah, I got. I love New York. I like New York better in la. I like la. I don't hate la. He does not. He doesn't like la. I like la. I like hanging out there. I like seeing, like, just. It's just such a different world out there. It's like a whole nother country and it's just super cool. I like being out there.

B (36:17)

Do New York first. Like, what do you like about New York?

A (36:19)

What do I like about New York? I love the culture in New York. I love. There's. If there's culture in New York, I don't think there's a whole lot of culture in la. I mean, there's culture, but like, in New York, it's so strong and you can, like see it everywhere. And I felt like I was in a movie the entire time. You know, I felt like I was Batman, you know, I was just. I seriously, I was riding around in an Uber and I saw steam coming out of a, you know, a drain and I was like, dang, I'm in a movie. You know, it was awesome. I felt like a Mafia Gotham City. Yeah, seriously. And I. Dude, it was so cool. And, you know, I was going around, it's like New York, you know, I mean, they were definitely yelling at me for doing that, but I was cool. I was like, yes, please yell at me. Because I felt like I was. It was just like the coolest thing and like honking.

B (37:01)

Yell.

A (37:02)

Yeah, please, please yell at me. Curse at me, please. You know, I want to. I want to feel the experience.

B (37:07)

I like New York.

A (37:09)

New York.

B (37:09)

Except when it's cold.

A (37:11)

Really? I was in. I was there in May. I was there in May. I didn't see it when it was cold. I didn't.

B (37:16)

You don't want to really make. It's pretty hot though. It's kind of muggy.

A (37:18)

It was like 80.

B (37:19)

The weird thing about New York is a lot of people don't have air conditioners there because they don't need it for very long.

A (37:23)

Really.

B (37:24)

So they don't buy them.

A (37:25)

Wow.

B (37:25)

So why would you buy an air conditioner if you're only needing it for three or four weeks out of the year?

A (37:30)

She. I guess you're right.

B (37:31)

Where, weather wise, like, L. A is awesome, but traffic.

A (37:34)

Oh, it's Terrible. It's terrible. Like, I feel like I could. I could be in the heart of L. A and I could drive 15 minutes, or I could drive two hours and still feel like I'm in the city. Like, if that makes sense in any direction. I could drive 30 minutes south and still, dang, I'm looking at the same building. You know, same with New York. But New York is cooler. Because it's New York. Yeah.

B (37:53)

You can walk.

A (37:54)

Yeah, you can. I can just walk New York. No one really drives in New York anyway. But I mean, I liked la. I have an appreciation for la. Amazing music, stuff out there, you know, And I've written with some great people out there and, you know, gotten in some sessions.

B (38:06)

A plus weather.

A (38:07)

Oh, A plus. Absolutely. 70. 70 sunny and 75 or 65 every day.

B (38:11)

F traffic. If I'm grading it A plus weather.

A (38:14)

Okay.

B (38:14)

F traffic.

A (38:15)

Okay. What do you. What do you know about S tier? You ever heard of S tier? There's like S above A. It's like S. Is this a new grading system? Yeah, it's like the.

B (38:22)

How long has this been a thing?

A (38:23)

So a green and then S is red. S is like above A. S is like, perfect.

B (38:28)

Okay. I don't know about this.

A (38:29)

Yeah, this is like the new gen grading system, I would say. Is it new weather? No, it's probably. I don't know. I've seen it probably ten years ago.

B (38:36)

Okay, so it's.

A (38:37)

I was like five. It's S. Yeah. Then S, T, S, A, B, C, D, E. F or. No, no, E. No, E. You're flipping my brain. Sorry. No, the E. I just. I got stuck in the Alphabet. Yeah, a little too young. It's all good. Take away the E. Okay. DF So S means perfect. S means perfect. Like, perfect weather.

B (38:56)

Why do they pick the letter S? Like, what does S even stand?

A (38:58)

Dude, I didn't make the rules. I. I'm. I'm just a messenger man. I have so. I have no clue.

B (39:03)

Messages had scrambled my brain.

A (39:04)

I didn't know that. I have one better than bad messages.

B (39:07)

Superior.

A (39:08)

Yeah, superior. Boom. Yeah, that's a. Yeah, got it. Okay, so S weather, S weather, F.

B (39:14)

Traffic, and then New York. I'm gonna give it a. I'm gonna.

A (39:18)

Give it a C minus traffic, you.

B (39:20)

Know, maybe even a D. Yeah, I can go with that. I'm gonna D traffic. But at least you can walk places.

A (39:25)

Yeah, but the walking kind of brings it up.

B (39:27)

Yeah, a little bit.

A (39:27)

Because there's no. I mean, there's walking traffic, but, like, you're walking.

B (39:30)

I'm gonna say a food in New York. Oh, I'm not gonna go S food, but I'm gonna go a food.

A (39:36)

A food. Yeah, a food. And I had, I'm not gonna say I had the best food of my entire life in New York. I don't even think I ate a slice of pizza. The bagels, too much cream cheese. Maybe I'm not. Yeah, I guess. Sorry. I don't know. Shame me, please curse at me, but I'd say a food. Yeah, a food. D traffic. And S culture.

B (39:57)

Yeah, S culture for sure. Where do you claim to be from?

A (40:01)

I claim, I claim to be from Nashville. But Birmingham is like almost the city that kind of built me, you know, Cuz like a lot of my years that were, you know, the growing up years, like when I like a lot like my middle school, like I never went to high school, but like my middle school and like elementary school years, like second to through eighth grade was Birmingham. And then first through first or I mean my first year on the planet through first grade and then now have been Tennessee. So I'd say I'm from Tennessee, but like Birmingham was like I grew up in Birmingham. I don't know how to make that make sense.

B (40:38)

Yeah, I know. It didn't at all.

A (40:39)

Okay, yeah, good to know. You don't know. I'll elaborate.

B (40:42)

Like I got the numbers, I played it out. It's basically a sandwich. Yeah, like the Nashville. You got the Nashville sandwich. Nashville, the meat, Birmingham, you're back on with the bread.

A (40:50)

Perfect. That's, I mean, literally a perfect way to put it. Yeah.

B (40:52)

Do you ever meet other 15 year olds and then I'm sure you do, but again, your business isn't around 15 year olds.

A (40:58)

No, definitely not.

B (40:59)

But maybe it shows. And do you feel like you're a lot older than them? Like young, like what is your. Because again, you seem a lot older and you've, you've achieved a lot older. How do you feel when you're with other 15 or 16 year olds?

A (41:12)

I try to not. I. When I'm with like my buddies and stuff, I try to let all of my, you know, business mind just leave just so I can be a kid, you know.

B (41:22)

Do you have 15 year old friends here?

A (41:23)

Yes, of course, of course. Like I have friends.

B (41:25)

Like, dude, you're talking about golf and watches.

A (41:27)

Not a problem. True. But I go golfing with them, you know, I brought them. I, you know, the, the 40 year old knowledge has been passed to me and then I'm passing it down to them, you know, that kind of stuff. But I try to let it go, you know, when I'm with them. So I don't. Like, I'm not just miserable. Like, what are you guys talking about the whole time? You know? Like, if I just let it go and let myself be a kid, I feel like that's when it's more enjoyable.

B (41:48)

Do they let you be normal?

A (41:49)

Yes, of course. Of course. You know, like, when I'm around them, they don't. They treat me just like Maddox, which is. That'd be the biggest blessing. And, you know, like, I'm a lot of them. Is my family, like, a lot. Like, North? I have, like, a lot of cousins that I like to hang out with. Like, Alex, my cousin Alex. He's the best at it. He, like, I have a lot of yes men. I have a lot of people around me that'll just say, yes, Maddox, you know, all the time, which is great, but Alex is the guy that'll be like, no, what are you talking about? I'll beat you up. Like that type of guy. I don't know. He's just. True cousin. Exactly. True. True Southern cousin. I'm super thankful for him because he keeps me grounded. And that's something that you really, really, really need. And that's why I like hanging out with my. My buddies, because they don't treat me like Maddox Bass in the Entity. They kind of just treat me just like their buddy Mannix, which is cool with me.

B (42:34)

Give me a real pinch me moment.

A (42:36)

Oh, great. Good question. Truthfully, I mean, it's not even that hard for me. The Grand Ole Opry debut was insane, and I've. I grew up in, like, theater and all this kind of stuff, and I would. I've never really got nervous or, like, stage fright or anything like that. I, like, I would get nervous, of course. I'd get excited. You know, more excited than nervous. And I never really, you know, folded or anything under the pressure or anything like that, but I've never been in my entire life more nervous than my second time on the Grand Ole Opry. The first time, I was just, okay, you know, ready to go. But the second time, you know, they invited me back. You know, I have to make an even better impression here because they invited me back, you know?

B (43:19)

What'd you think about your. Did you have fun your first time? Oh, absolutely, because I did not have fun the first time. I played it really well because I was like, I don't want to screw this up.

A (43:25)

No, true, true, true, true.

B (43:27)

And there's like a cake and you got a sign.

A (43:29)

Yeah.

B (43:29)

And it's like you're in the. The first timer room, and everything is like an experience.

A (43:33)

Yeah.

B (43:34)

And so I didn't really have. It was. It meant something to me.

A (43:38)

Absolutely.

B (43:39)

But I didn't have fun because I just didn't want to mess it up.

A (43:43)

Okay.

B (43:44)

I felt like the second time I actually looked in people's faces, like I could actually take in the stage, take in the crowd. There wasn't. It wasn't a big deal. I just got almost to my room. I went to the comedy room. They were like, you're in room, you know, 16.

A (43:57)

Yeah.

B (43:57)

Have at it. Yeah, I enjoyed it.

A (43:59)

Treated you like almost like a local.

B (44:00)

Yeah. Yeah, I enjoy that. Second time.

A (44:02)

That's a great way to put it. I mean, I kind of agree with that. You know, I didn't necessarily. I definitely had fun while I was up there on stage, but kind of like you said, you were just like, holy cow, I don't want to mess this up. You know, the Grand Ole Opry just invited a 15 year old to play.

B (44:15)

Well, I wasn't 15, but you. Yes.

A (44:17)

Yeah, yeah.

B (44:19)

Just invited a 15 year old.

A (44:20)

Yeah. Me, I think you were confused, but, dude, I was. Oh, my goodness, I was. I was so nervous. But, you know, luckily I think I pulled through. I think I handled myself as well as I could, and I think so too. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. I definitely tried. And after I heard it back, I was like, oh, no, I talked too much. But, you know, that mean no one's gonna be harder on and yourself than yourself.

B (44:43)

Do you listen back to everything?

A (44:45)

I listened back on that because I wanted to see, like, if I was just listening as a fan, like, what it would sound like. And I think I did fine. You know, you could definitely tell my voice a little shaky, of course, but, you know, puberty. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. Seriously. A mixture of puberty, nervousness, and, you know, that. That's a good mix. You know, I mean, that's gonna. That's gonna shake your voice up a little bit.

B (45:06)

But you're doing a lot of shows, man.

A (45:08)

Yeah, most definitely. I mean, for me, performing is my favorite part. So the tours and stuff like that. I mean, that doesn't. I mean, I have the best time. Yeah.

B (45:18)

All. All the shows coming up on the, you know, the live worldwide tour. Yeah, it's a lot of shows. That's really cool.

A (45:25)

It's a lot of shows.

B (45:26)

I mean, you. You do like rock star touring, meaning, like country Artists, for the most part, they go away on Friday, Saturday, and.

A (45:32)

They come back, come back.

B (45:33)

There's a lot of times here where you're gone. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Like 11, 12 days at a time.

A (45:38)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

B (45:39)

You're basically Good Charlotte. Do you know?

A (45:41)

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I do know. Good Charlotte. I get no, you know, stained.

B (45:45)

Yeah, it's been a while.

A (45:46)

Yeah, exactly. So the lead singer of Stain actually bought his childhood home. Aaron Lewis lives in my dad's childhood home.

B (45:53)

Oh, now.

A (45:54)

Now. Right now, just recently, he lives in my dad's childhood.

B (45:57)

No, you can talk.

A (45:58)

You're good.

B (46:00)

Where? In the Northeast or here in town? Okay. Oh, so. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. So he bought the house here.

A (46:08)

Robertson County.

B (46:09)

Got it.

A (46:10)

You know where you're at? I.

B (46:12)

On the pumpkin patch or whatever. Oh, yeah, they. They did. They did my face as a pump last year. They did. You got it before me, dude.

A (46:20)

The guy.

B (46:20)

You were 14.

A (46:21)

No, I know. That's where we're from. The. The people that run that, like, their son works with me. He's my merch guy. He's one of my merch guys. Yeah.

B (46:28)

Dang. I followed you.

A (46:30)

Yeah, you follow me up, dude. Dude, someone can. Hey, got it. Can I actually tell him something funny?

B (46:35)

Yeah, please.

A (46:36)

Someone came to the pumpkin patch this year and they want. They thought it was me on the.

B (46:41)

And they were wildly disappointed.

A (46:42)

And they were like, who's this old man with glasses? Oh, it's this Bobby guy.

B (46:46)

Who is this weirdo?

A (46:48)

I hate to tell you that. I hate to tell you that, but.

B (46:50)

Yeah, I've heard worse about me even today. So that's. Well, congratulations, man.

A (46:54)

Thanks.

B (46:55)

Like, I'm super pumped for you.

A (46:56)

I appreciate it.

B (46:57)

I love it. Your family's so tight. I figured, like, watching you and your dad perform.

A (47:01)

Absolutely.

B (47:02)

Together and knowing you guys story, like, that's super cool.

A (47:05)

Thank you. Yeah, appreciate it.

B (47:06)

And are you playing any pickleball at all? Do you play pickleball?

A (47:08)

Dude, I play pickleball. Am I going to say I'm the best at pickleball? Definitely not. But I definitely do play, and I do like playing. It's like, it's a sport. That's not golf. Still active, but it's not like basketball. Like, I grew up playing basketball. That was what I wanted to do for as long as I could.

B (47:25)

Did you get, like, hurt?

A (47:26)

Yeah, I got hurt my right knee. And a lot of people were like, dude, I had the same disease. I played through it. I'm telling you, dog, I couldn't play through it. I had, like, the worst case you could possibly imagine of this, Osgood Schlatter's disease, and I could not play.

B (47:40)

What does that do? What's the disease?

A (47:41)

It's like this growth plate under your kneecap, and it was, like, poking out. And if I hit it on, like, if I literally just, like, touched it like this at the time, that sensitive on the ground, like, hurting, like, worst pain I've ever felt in my life. And I couldn't run, jump stop. And I just. I was a. I had a really quick first step. I was a really, like, quick guard, especially, you know, for my stature. Right. I was really quick guard, and that's what got me open. I was a good shooter, and I just couldn't. I couldn't bend. I couldn't have that first step. And I was. It just went. I went from, like a. Like an. A basketball player?

B (48:15)

Yes.

A (48:15)

No, I wasn't. I wasn't there. I, like. I went. All right, so the year before my. I got diagnosed, I was averaging 35 points a game.

B (48:25)

No way.

A (48:26)

I swear. I was averaging 35 points a game with other players for my school team. For my school team.

B (48:31)

You were averaging 35.

A (48:32)

35 points a game. And then the year after, I probably went to, like, what, 11.

B (48:36)

Did you pass anybody the ball?

A (48:37)

I. Dude, I mean, I'm not getting into this. I'm not getting in this with you, Bobby. I'm not getting into this. I've been accused of ball hard my entire life.

B (48:46)

No assists.

A (48:47)

I. I passed the ball 40 times in the game. I scored 45 points. 40 times I passed the ball. You know how many times I had. You know how many assists I had?

B (48:58)

2. I know. I believe it.

A (48:59)

I'm telling you, I'm a dimer. Jason Williams is my favorite player of all time. And I'm. I'm doing fancy passing. I'm giving them the ball, and they're just not doing anything.

B (49:08)

So it's on them that you don't have assists?

C (49:10)

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B (49:10)

Yes.

A (49:11)

I'm passing them.

B (49:12)

It.

A (49:12)

There's footage four years ago. I'm 12 years old, averaging 35 points a game, and I'm diming the ball off, and they're not doing nothing with it. Much love to anyone on my team. I love you guys.

B (49:23)

He tried to. Please do.

A (49:27)

I was there every game. I missed one game because I went to the beach. You know how many points my team scored? 1 point they made a free throw. Wait, when I wasn't gone. And we lost one game that year. That Was only when you were gone. It was the only game I lost.

B (49:41)

Well, you were accounting for all the points of the team.

A (49:44)

Yes.

B (49:45)

They were like, we get to shoot.

A (49:46)

What the heck do we do with this? Dude, I know. At practice, they're all.

B (49:50)

They're all stunned.

A (49:51)

Yeah.

B (49:52)

We put the ball in the hole.

A (49:53)

No, I know. They didn't know what to do. It was like.

B (49:55)

Exactly.

A (49:56)

And I'm sorry. I love you guys.

B (49:58)

We just play defense. Maddox usually scores all the points.

A (50:02)

I get. They get the ball. It's just like a foreign, like, language. All right, Maddox.

B (50:07)

Good to see you, buddy. I hope everybody comes out. You're all over. You're all over the world. It's really cool to see. I'm excited for you to go to other countries and eat food. You want to eat real food? What, man? You're going to go places. Like, you're going to go to, like, London, dude.

A (50:20)

I heard London's pretty solid.

B (50:21)

London's cool because the buildings are from, like, 1200.

A (50:25)

Yeah.

B (50:25)

Like, we have nothing here in of front, dude. We have the founding fathers.

A (50:28)

We have. Yeah.

B (50:29)

The buildings are thousands of years old.

A (50:31)

And still stands way cooler. It's wild. Yeah. Cool.

B (50:34)

They have. They don't really have skyscrapers, though, which is weird.

A (50:36)

You know, I wouldn't expect that because they're all. They're. They're unknown. They're the country. I feel like UK is just like the country.

B (50:42)

Never like that.

A (50:43)

Like, you're the unk, and you're UK and I'm the usa, if that makes sense. You know, I'm the young country. You're the country.

B (50:51)

I'm back to being insulted. Really good to spend some time with you. Congratulations on all your success.

A (50:58)

Absolutely.

B (50:58)

You guys. Follow him on Instagram. Maddox Batson. And, dude, I'm pumped. I'm pumped to. Are you playing Nashville at all? You are, right?

A (51:05)

You have to. Yeah, we play Pinnacle in May. Yep. In May. It's gonna be fun.

B (51:09)

All right.

A (51:09)

There he is. Good to see you. Thank you guys so much.

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