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Bobby Bones
You are the second episode crazy. Only behind Kenny.
Bailey Zimmerman
I'm very honored. Honestly, very honored. Yeah. When you asked me to do this, I was like, this is actually really cool. Like, you could have asked anybody to do this. And I'm honored to be on this couch. Let's go.
Bobby Bones
Well, I did ask a lot of people to do it, and still the only person that you're behind is Kenny. Do you take offense that you're behind Kenny?
Bailey Zimmerman
No, I don't. Of course.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Bailey Zimmerman
I don't take offense to anything, dude. I'm blessed. So here we are.
Bobby Bones
You're extremely jittery. I want to say this. We've known each other for a long time, so I feel comfortable just going right to it. You're extremely jittery.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, yeah. Coffee.
Bobby Bones
Just so people know, we're recording this at 3pm and Bailey comes in, he's drinking coffee, and he's like, coffee in the morning? It's 3pm yeah. So is coffee new to you?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. So I kind of, like, have used it as just, like, a thing to help me quit a bunch of, like, you know, things I wanted to quit in life. And it's really Worked.
Bobby Bones
So you're replacing something else with a.
Bailey Zimmerman
Not such a bad thing. You know, I'm like, dude, I'd rather be, like, drinking too much coffee than drinking too much tequila, you know? Oh, that's what it is, trying to drink coffee. Yeah. Like. Like, certain vices that I wanted to, like, get rid of. I was just like, okay, how could I do that and kind of replace it with just something, like a slightly lesser vice? Yeah. So coffee is really good for me. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
You're already a pretty energetic guy.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Does it jack you up even more?
Bailey Zimmerman
It's kind of interesting some. Like, a lot of the times no, because it's allegedly. Allegedly. I'm not, like, speaking fact here, but allegedly people with ADHD, like caffeine and things that usually hype up everybody else. Kind of like Adderall to, like, everybody else would hype them up. It brings us down, I guess. So a lot of the times it doesn't bring me up, but sometimes it does give me these, like, where I'm just, like, jittery. So I'm not, like, it doesn't give me more energy. I just, like, I'm jittery, I guess.
Bobby Bones
Caffeine doesn't really affect me.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay.
Bobby Bones
It doesn't matter when I drink it. Maybe for a similar reason, probably.
Bailey Zimmerman
Honestly. Yeah, that would make sense.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. My doctor has told me that it's either I have a dash of ocd.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Or super adhd.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's probably both. A lot of the times I feel like I have all of it. I'm like, dude, I have all of this. Dude. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
What did you drive up here today?
Bailey Zimmerman
I drove my Cadillac. I just bought a Escalade V. Okay.
Bobby Bones
I know nothing about cars. So tell me what a Cadillac Escalade V is. Because I can picture a black Cadillac Escalade like an suv, but what. What's the difference?
Bailey Zimmerman
So I have. Mine's white and the. The, like. So what's cool about an Escalade V? So, like, there's the Escalade, but then my Escalade V is a supercharged six two. So, like, the motor is, like, faster.
Bobby Bones
Is there a time you would ever need a fast Escalade suv?
Bailey Zimmerman
It honestly is just the sound. I just love the sound of it. That's also why I bought my Lamborghini as well. I just wanted the sound to hear it.
Bobby Bones
Lamborghini car?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. Bought one of the cars with the V10 in it, so those things are really low. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
You scrape?
Bailey Zimmerman
I don't know yet. I bought it out in la. And you don't know yet?
Bobby Bones
It's not here.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's not here. I sent it to New Jersey because I was doing some work. I can't leave nothing alone, dude. My grandpa. So I don't know, you probably know this about me, but my family. Oh, real quick. My mom said that she loves you and she told me to tell you that this morning. And I'm a man of my word. My mom loves you and I want.
Bobby Bones
To talk about her in just a second. Cause I love your mom.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes, so.
Bobby Bones
But not that way.
Bailey Zimmerman
No. Right, Right.
Bobby Bones
Bailey, you're my son.
Bailey Zimmerman
No, right. Daddy Bobby. Yes, Daddy Bones.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, this is a weird time to tell. We're new on Netflix, so I had to break it to you here.
Bailey Zimmerman
My mom comes through the door, she's like, intervention. Everybody grabs a chair, sit down, she.
Bobby Bones
Starts like playing with my hair. Bailey, it's true.
Bailey Zimmerman
That's crazy.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Bailey Zimmerman
You sent your own.
Bobby Bones
You sent your car to New York.
Bailey Zimmerman
So anyways, yeah, so you know, my family owned dealership. Growing up I worked there. We, you know, built race cars and built everything. And my grandpa couldn't leave nothing alone vehicle wise. My dad, my brother, my whole family. So I kind of like have that really like that hobby, I guess. And so yeah, I sent it to New Jersey and Varn built it's like this dude, his name's Varner and he's gonna like make it sick. And then there's also this dude named Switch. Why'd everybody have like one name? It's just Varner built. Just what he calls a shop.
Bobby Bones
Feels like those are guys you'd meet in prison.
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, he doesn't look like he could be in prison.
Bobby Bones
I don't know. I'm just saying with those one name guys feel like those are guys you meet up at Rikers, you know?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like how'd you get that nickname?
Bobby Bones
So what are they doing to your car?
Bailey Zimmerman
I think his name is. His last name's Varner.
Bobby Bones
But what are they doing to your car?
Bailey Zimmerman
What are they.
Bobby Bones
What are they doing to make it sit?
Bailey Zimmerman
Alright, so I'm gonna do like a bunch of like body panels. So I'm gonna do a new rear bumper and a new rear like wing. And then I'm gonna do side skirt diffusers. I'm gonna do a front new bumper with a diffuser and it'll just make it look like badass.
Bobby Bones
The only thing I know about a diffuser is I have one of those I do my hair with.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay. And it has like the claws Actually, you know what? A diffuser on a car is almost the same thing. Kind of not the same thing as your hair, but, like, it does have these, like, big things that set it lower to the ground, and it looks like it. If you looked at one right now, you'd be like, okay, similarity.
Bobby Bones
So how much to ship your car to New Jersey and then get it here?
Podcast Host
Hmm.
Bobby Bones
Like, that's gotta be another $15,000, right?
Bailey Zimmerman
No, no, actually, it was like, I got a deal also. Like, my grandpa. I love a deal. Like, Facebook Marketplace, bro. Love a good deal.
Bobby Bones
I love you shipped a Lamborghini on Facebook Marketplace.
Bailey Zimmerman
No, no.
Bobby Bones
I don't know much, but that does not sound.
Bailey Zimmerman
No, I'm just saying Facebook Marketplace. You know how you just find deals on there and you can just haggle and get a better price and, you know, just Facebook Marketplace, man. The culture of Facebook Marketplace. You know what I'm saying? No, but, dude, you gotta get on this. Anyways, I'm a ha. I'm a haggler. And, dude, I think I shipped it out there for, like, 2,500 bucks from LA.
Bobby Bones
Who took it? One Eyed Willie?
Bailey Zimmerman
No, a real company. They had real insurance. Yeah, it was a real thing. All good. Yep.
Bobby Bones
And how long? Cause I think if I bought something like that, I'd want it.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, it kills me. I am, like. I. Like, when I walk outside, I just try to imagine what it's gonna look like. Like, in my driveway. I'm like, I cannot wait to see this thing. I'm so excited. It's honestly, like. Like, cars and trucks and just anything with a motor, anything you can customize, or I'm just, like, addicted. Like, real addiction. Like, I don't do it for, like, the clout or the. What? I do it. Like, I love it so much.
Bobby Bones
Like, will you turn that car over quickly, though? Will you get the Lamborghini and get bored with it?
Bailey Zimmerman
I keep everything. And the reason I keep all my cars is because I remember when my dad growing up and my grandpa growing up, they'd be like, man, I wish after everything was said and done, I really, really didn't need to sell that car. I would have, you know, figured out how to keep it and this and that. I wish I'd have kept that car and this car. And I don't want to be that guy when I'm older. I want to have, like, cars for my grandkids and things. And so as long as I don't need to sell them, I'm not going to. But then if I need to. I will.
Bobby Bones
Do you have a warehouse?
Bailey Zimmerman
No, I'm running out of room. It's getting. It's becoming a problem. Yeah. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
You don't have a girlfriend yet.
Bailey Zimmerman
No, no.
Bobby Bones
See, I think that's when it changes a bit.
Bailey Zimmerman
I'm really hoping that she loves it, too, and then it becomes even more of a problem, and I just.
Bobby Bones
You want her to love cars and ship them off her diffusers with one eye Willie up to New Jersey.
Bailey Zimmerman
How cool. If she was like, she came to me, that ain't gonna happen. My girlfriend's like, hey, look at this Facebook Marketplace car I just found. We could totally put this motor in this car and make this. This cool car. I'd be like, oh, my gosh. Marry me, bro. Please, God.
Bobby Bones
Would you be open to marrying a bro? If that.
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, you know, honestly.
Bobby Bones
You know, listen, if you love cars.
Bailey Zimmerman
Enough, honestly, I would say that. My best friend. I am married to my best friend. His name's Josh. He runs a company called Maxed Diesel. And he, like, he helps me. His company not only does it for everybody else, but he, like, helps me. Like, I'll be like, hey, I want this. And then he'll go to the company, get a deal, get it shipped to the shop, have it done, and then it's good. So he kind of takes care of it. He's. They call him a build manager. So he, like, manages a truck build or a car build or whatever. Right. So we are basically, like, married. I'm on the phone with him probably four hours out of day, five hours out of the day, just talking about cars and what we're doing and this and that. And what are you doing?
Bobby Bones
So that's your number one passion other than work, Other than music and work and sometimes probably. They probably dance.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. No. Music is the most important thing in my life.
Bobby Bones
Not important. Not important. But do you spend the most time thinking about music?
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's like. Oh, gosh. Yeah. 98% of my life is music. Tour, future, like, writing, trying to, like, have plans and. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Can you guess what mine is? You're right. Your mom.
Bailey Zimmerman
My mom. That's awful. Is this, like a roast me section or something about my mom?
Bobby Bones
No, I love your mom.
Bailey Zimmerman
I love your mom.
Bobby Bones
I love the videos.
Bailey Zimmerman
And my mom loves you. She said it on the phone, but that's why I brought it up. I actually brought this up. It was my fault. I'm sorry.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Bailey Zimmerman
And that's, you know, just a message to all the, you know, girls out there. I Am a guy that will say, I messed up. I'm sorry. That was my fault. I brought that up. I shouldn't even have said it. But I had to. Cause I'm not also a man of my word. And she told me, will you tell that? And I said, yes, mom. I'll tell him that you love him.
Bobby Bones
So the last time I saw your mom was on your TikTok videos.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes.
Bobby Bones
And.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, gosh, did you.
Bobby Bones
Did you think it would go that viral?
Bailey Zimmerman
I don't know. I honestly was, like, kind of frantically trying to make a video about it because I hadn't really focused on like, or, like, planned how I was gonna video it. I was really just focused on, like, making it, like, just we. Oh, my gosh, dude. That took, like six months to redo the whole house inside because it was really old and needed just, like, updating.
Bobby Bones
Also when you. Okay, let me. Let me stop you. Just so people know. So Bailey, around Christmas, had posted a TikTok, and he surprised his mom in the new house.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes.
Bobby Bones
And then you ended up surprising her with an suv.
Bailey Zimmerman
Let's go. Yes. A Cadillac V. Just a Cadillac.
Bobby Bones
It was white, though.
Bailey Zimmerman
It was white.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I thought it was so good. And so, yeah, I wondered how long was the process to it. Was that a house that she had seen before that she liked? Was it a neighborhood she wanted to live in? How did you know where what to do?
Bailey Zimmerman
It's like. It's like the craziest, coolest story. So, like, okay, I'm gonna get into this. It's really cool. It means.
Bobby Bones
So I'm stretch out. We got plenty of time. There you go.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's so cool, and it means so much to everybody. Like, the. The kids these days would say the lore behind all of this is crazy. So starting off January of last year, after Cancun, Crash, my playa. We get home from Crash, my playa, and my mom gets really sick. And she, like, is in the hospital, like, on a ventilator, like, might die sick. Like, she's like. She was one day away from dying. Basically. She had went through. Man, it was 20, 22 days on event or 23 days. Yeah, it was really crazy. It was. I was going to the hospital between tour and between everything and, like, you know, staying at the hospital, my bus and then going to see her. And we all honestly thought she was, like, not gonna make it. And then one day she just woke up and, like, was good. And, like, you know, the vet came out, everything was good, and now she's alive. But at that moment when she was just like, really sick, she was like down kind of like rock bottom, you know, like, she. All that time in the, in the hospital made her quit smoking cigarettes. So where my brain was like, man, she's really had a. She's gonna come out of the hospital. I really need to try to get her a house because she didn't have a house at the time. She had been renting this one, but I don't know, it was a mess. So that's what gave me the idea, like, man, I really need to make my mom comfortable because, you know, she's now off cigarettes and off of everything. She could kind of come out of this and be really healthy and like, kind of get her life back, you know. And like, so. And before this, she had been on an oxygen tank because she smoked so much and it was just a bad deal. So I was like, okay, I want to get her a house and make sure she's set up so she feels like she can, like, go work out and get her life back and, you know, not have to worry about anything else. So that's where it started. And then. So the lore behind the house was, I. When I started looking, there was this one house in town that my mom's best friend, her name was Joanie. And it catty cornered my grandma's house. And my mom had grew up on that land riding dirt bikes where that house was built. And Joanie was my mom's best friend. So Joanie built the house, and she ended up dying in 2009. And it was a really, really bad time for my mom. And that house had just always meant a lot to her. And then it got sold to other people, and I ended up buying that house. Like, that house is Joanie's house she built. So it's my mom's best friend that isn't with us anymore. She built that house and it catty corners my grandma. So now my mom can go right over to my grandma's help, Grandma can come to her house. It's like a God given, like, blessing, man. Like so just like it being my mom's best friend, that's not with us anymore. Her house, it's right next to my grandma.
Bobby Bones
How did you find it was available? Were they just selling it?
Bailey Zimmerman
The time it wasn't even on the market. They had heard through somewhere that I was looking for land and they got ahold of somebody and I was like, yeah, I'll buy this. I didn't know you guys would want to sell it because somebody had told me they weren't, but then they heard that I had asked somebody, so they hit me up, and I ended up buying it.
Bobby Bones
So then do you start renovating it?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. When I got in there, I was like, oh, gosh, I just bought the house. Why would I give her this house that needs a lot of work done? Like, I don't know. I've always, like. My mom has always tried to give me, like, the best of the best whenever she didn't have it. And I'm like, I'm at a point in my life where I've been very, very blessed, and, like, you know, the success and everything. I was like, I'm gonna give her a fully new house, and this is. I'm just gonna do it. And I know I won't regret it, you know, in the future. You know, I'll just have to. Let's keep working hard, you know? But so we went in, like, yeah, made it all new and black and white, and I gave her, like, a chill area.
Bobby Bones
How long did it take to rebuild the house?
Bailey Zimmerman
Like, the relations? Right around, like, probably four months or so.
Bobby Bones
Was it hard to stay quiet about it as it was happening?
Bailey Zimmerman
So she had. I had went with her to the house because she thought I was looking for a house. So I had took her, and she was like, oh, yeah, Joni's house? I'm like, yeah, I don't know. And then from then on, she didn't really know much, and I think she had this suspicion because there were so many people there, and there's not anybody in town that, like, would buy that, so. And I hadn't said anything, but she didn't say anything about it, so we just didn't say anything. I thought my grandma was gonna ruin it, dude.
Bobby Bones
Oh, your grandma knew?
Bailey Zimmerman
My grandma knew a little bit because she overheard some stuff, and then I was like, you better just chill out. And when you want to say something, chill out. Don't say nothing.
Bobby Bones
Did you trust your grandma not to say anything?
Bailey Zimmerman
I did, because we had the little. Hey, it looks like you threatened her, huh? I was like, yo, we're just gonna chill out, right? Yeah. No. So, yeah, it was so fun. And my brother. My brother John. Shout out. My brother John. He really helped me, like, do it all and kind of contracted the thing and helped make sure everything was right. Oh, man. He was back home while I was, like, doing all stuff. So were you trying to be Christmas? Yeah, that was, like, our thing. I really wanted to get it in by Christmas, and. Oh, man, there's this guy named Mike Owens. Shout out. Mike Owens. Shout out. John Logan. Zink. Oh, my gosh. These guys pulled through on, like, Saturday, like, the. You know, the weekend before. Sighted the whole thing. Painted the door. Painted the thing. They were painting on Christmas Eve, like, they were painting the door and stuff, like, my town, like, came together. Dude, it was unbelievable when you drove her by.
Bobby Bones
When you drove her to. Well, why were you driving by? Were you going to your grandma's house? Finger quotes or what?
Bailey Zimmerman
I was just, like, driving around. And I was just like, yeah, let's just go drive around. And then.
Bobby Bones
Is that something you would do? Just go drive around?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. She was like, why? And I was like, I don't know. She's like, okay. Oh, I told her we were making a video. Got it. I thought I needed to make a video.
Bobby Bones
There had to be a better story than just driving around.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay, let's go drive around. Oh, I need to make a video. And then. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And so when you drive by, that's her reaction. Her genuine reaction.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it was. It was really, like. When I was like, I. So it was really cool because I was, like, sitting there editing the video as everybody's over at the house, and everybody's like, we knew about it and, like, all the things. And I remember I showed my mom's best friend Bridget the video. I'm like, hey, do you think this, like, looks good? And, like, do you like this? And, like, the three seconds in, she's like, already crying. And I'm like, okay, yeah, post, like.
Bobby Bones
So I saw that video, but then it was like, there's more. It was like one of those 90s commercials that. Come on. You think, there's more. It fillets, it chops. There's more. And then you back the truck, the suv, out of the garage.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Was she suspecting that at all?
Bailey Zimmerman
No. Like, again. And, like, there was a lot of people. Like, she kind of seemed more overwhelmed about the car than she did the house. And I'm like. And she was telling me. Because she reads all the. She was like. She's like, I can't keep reading comments. All these comments. Anyone? Negative. I just want to. I just want to DM him. I just want to tell him off. And I'm like, mom, just. It's okay. Like, just chill out. But she was going. Reading the comments. She was like, everybody thinks I was more excited about the car than the house, but really, the car was just too much. And it really just sent me over the edge because, you know, like, you take. Take Too much care of me. And so it was, like. It was really cool and, like. But yeah, she was really surprised when. When everybody was in the garage because I did the same thing for my grandma. There's another video of me giving my grandma a car. And I just used the same, like, kind for the video and how to, like, surprise her with it. I just used the same, like, kind of idea and I felt it on her. Yeah. Oh, man. I can't remember when I. When I did that. It was. It was my grandma's birthday. Yeah. It was like, everybody hides in the garage. And then because I didn't know, I was like, okay, I can't be in the garage, because she's gonna be like, what's going on? So I was like, hey, I need to. I said the same thing. Cause we always make videos when I'm back home. So I was like, hey, I need to make another video. I didn't. One earlier didn't do. I don't know. I need to redo it. And she was like, okay. And then I just started videoing, and I was like, it did. Yeah, it was. Oh, it was so funny because she was. You did this to grandma and now it's, like, flipped on me. So. Yeah, it was, man. It's like what you dream of, like, literally as a kid. And you watch it in the movies. You know, the rock star, like, you know, takes care of his family. And, like, it's just everything I was taught growing up, too. Just, like, when you get the chance to help people, that helped you. Like, man, my mom, bro, we've talked about this. The $1,500 that my mom gave me to record my first song. I quit my job and needed $1,500 to become a country singer. Like, how does. How crazy does that sound? And she was just like, yeah, Perfect. Didn't have $1,500 and gave it to me. So it's like, man, I still got more to do, you know? Like, she still deserves more, because I would not be here without that 1500. Where would I be now, you know?
Bobby Bones
So we interrupt this interview to bring you a message from our sponsor. And we're back on the bobbycast. It's funny because whenever I started to have success, what I bought my mom was somewhere to live and some land. There were two things, and I have a joke that I was doing in my stand up. It was like when I first started. And you're gonna see where this is going. It was when I first started to make money. I bought the Two tees. I bought my mom a trailer, and I bought me teeth.
Bailey Zimmerman
Nice. Okay.
Bobby Bones
Because I had bad teeth growing up.
Bailey Zimmerman
My whole life.
Bobby Bones
I didn't get to go to the dentist until I was in my twenties.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. I feel, dude. I feel.
Bobby Bones
And so. I don't know. I think that's why, like, I, like, I really like you. And, like, I've told you before.
Bailey Zimmerman
Thanks.
Bobby Bones
You get in trouble, you call me. I'll come get you it, no matter where. And. Yeah. Like, because we come from a very similar background.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And then I just watch you, and I message you about your teeth when you got new teeth. I was like, dude, everything you're doing now, like, that's what I did. Like, that's some country people coming up and actually, like, having some success.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's. It's like, I remember the first time that we got on your podcast. Was that at your old house?
Bobby Bones
It was. And that was the first interview you had ever done.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, I never. Oh, dude, I was so scared, dude. I walked in, I was like, dude, I'm so scared. I think I told you that. I was like, dude, I am kind of really scared right now because I have no idea what's going on. And everybody's saying that, like, dude, you're like this. Like, I don't even know what's going on. And, like, I'm so sorry. I don't know what Bobby Bones is. I'm just starting music. Like, I just came from this trailer park. And that first time, that's what, like, really kind of kicked us off was like, we're, like, almost the same person. Grew up very similarly. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
How often do you get home now?
Bailey Zimmerman
Now that I have a house, my mom's house, somewhere to, like, go that now it's like, I really try to be back home a bunch because I feel I now. I. Like, when I go home now, I feel like I don't want to leave. Like, I love laying on the couch and chilling. My mom just, like, hanging out. So I'm going to get back home a lot more. But before that, it was like, living in my. I was living in my bus there, and. Which I love my tour bus, you know, and it's, like, awesome, but it's like, you're cooped up on it 10 months out of the year. You don't really want to go back home and be cooped on a tour bus. I guess so.
Bobby Bones
Also, would people know for sure that you were there now since your tour. Your big old tour bus?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it could. You know, it sometimes Got a little weird, but it's like, you know, But. And honestly, I love it too. Like, I just remember, like, dude, how cool would it be just to be like, dude, this is a tour bus. Like, you've never seen a tour bus. So I'm usually, like, really cool. And I love, like, showing people the tour bus. I get so much, like, enjoyment out of that. But it is nice to now have a house.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you have a pool.
Bailey Zimmerman
Ah, was that gonna be the hot spot this summer?
Bobby Bones
Was that a must have. When you were buying your first house?
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, my first house, yeah.
Bobby Bones
You just bought a house?
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, my mom. So My mom's house back home.
Bobby Bones
But you have a pool, too, at your house?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes, yes. And that's.
Bobby Bones
And you just bought a house for you. You're buying every. You're buying houses and cars, but you bought your. Here.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And you have a nice pool.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, it's awesome.
Bobby Bones
Did you have to have a pool?
Bailey Zimmerman
I really wanted a pool, and for the same reason that I thought, man went to my people that, you know, manage all my money because I am smart and. Well, I wouldn't say I'm smart. I graduated high school, But I want to be smart with my money, and I want to. I don't want to be the kid that threw it all away. So I've got a lot of people that watch that. And I was like, hey, can I. Can I afford a house with a pool comfortably? Like, even if things just went downhill, you know, could I still just have that? Like, maybe for a little bit, and then if I need to, I'll sell it or whatever, you know? And they were like, yeah, like, yeah, you're good. And I was like, okay. And it's like that thing where I. There, Dude, I never had a pool growing up. Like, oh, my gosh, that's.
Bobby Bones
There was one kid in our neighborhood that had a pool. One kid, and it wasn't even that good of a pool, but he had a pool, so he was rich.
Bailey Zimmerman
No. Right. And that's like. We had a friend, Clayton Sims, we had to beg him because he knew he was, like, in control of the pool. And sometimes he'd be like. Sometimes literally, he'd be like, ah, man. No, I don't know about today. Guys, like, gatekeeped that pool. He gate kept the pool. So, yeah, like, it's just a big deal. I was like, I really want a pool to go jump in in the summer and have pool parties. And I guess I. I woke up one morning, and all of a sudden I was like, this song was viral that I'd just written, and it wasn't even a full song yet.
Bobby Bones
Dude, you're talking way back in the day. You did a flashback, but you didn't give us the shaky screen.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay, flashback. Okay, go flashback. I'm in my bed, my mom trailer, right? And I wake up, and my song, a part of a song that wasn't fully written yet, just went viral on TikTok. And I'm just like, I'm gonna quit my job. And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna do country music for the rest of my life. Because this one little thing, like, I had so much belief in myself. And then all of a sudden, like, I'm kind of in these moments where I just keep thinking, like, I've seen this in the movies. So I kind of just started making decisions like. Like I saw in the movies. Like, in the movies, the rich, famous guy buys his mom a house and takes care of the people that took care of him. And then, you know, like, he has the crazy pool parties in the summer. I kind of reference Nickelback a lot. Ida, Matt. Like, I'd like to say, you know, just pool parties and having fun and making sure you're enjoying the fruits of your labor, but also, you know, like, taking care of everybody else. And I think I just like, yeah, dude. Like, so imagine you just wake up and you're just in this rock star movie, and, dude, like, I guess I'm just. That's it. Yeah. Just like.
Bobby Bones
Is it weird for you to have. Because it was weird for me to hire somebody to handle my money because I never had money, and then I'm paying somebody 5%. That was weird, too, to give. To pay somebody money to take care of my money because I didn't want people in my money.
Bailey Zimmerman
That was the most. To understand it all.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
Because I think that's what made me so nervous when I first gave up the freedom was I didn't understand it. So me not understanding it, they could kindly say, do whatever they want because I have no idea what they're talking about. So. But, oh, yeah, I would have.
Bobby Bones
I still have the same conversations where I call my business manager.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I didn't even know what that was.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Like, I don't know what a business.
Bailey Zimmerman
Knows what a business is.
Bobby Bones
For sure.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But I'll call because I'm very close to her because now she's been, like, my person for 10 years.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Very close. And I'll go, can I get this car? Every time.
Bailey Zimmerman
Are you scared? Before you call still.
Bobby Bones
I just.
Bailey Zimmerman
I'm still scared I need to have.
Bobby Bones
Such a gap between if I buy the car and being poor. I need her to go, you're fine.
Bailey Zimmerman
Like, you are so good.
Bobby Bones
Your life, your quality of life will not change.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes.
Bobby Bones
If you buy whatever it is you're asking. And that's the only time that I'll buy it.
Bailey Zimmerman
That's. I'm the same way. It's like, am I so. So good? Like, if I ask them. So I'm scared to ask them, because I really want to invest in my future, and I know they're gonna say, well, you could invest this in your future, and you don't have to buy this car. But I'm so scared to ask them for that reason. But then if I go, hey, can I buy this car? And it's not like, yep. First I'm like, no, you hesitated. I don't want to ever go back to where I was. Like, I want to not be the kid that, you know, throws it all away. And I just keep thinking that every single time, dude. But I'm still like, if they say yes to.
Bobby Bones
You'll never not have. Like, I still have it.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Every time.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. And it's honestly the poor kid. I was on a podcast the other day, and they were like, what. What keeps you just, you know, grinding like you do and, like, you know, working as hard as you do. And I'm just like, the poor kid in the trailer that didn't have anything and had one pair of jeans to wear to school all year and one pair of shoes for a year and a half until the soles were flopping off. Like, that kid that didn't eat sometime. The kid. You know what I'm saying? Like, that. That is, like, I think, is why we'll probably always, like, just be like that. Cause I don't think that'll ever go away. You know, you can forget that, you.
Bobby Bones
Know, a lot older than you, but I've been in a very similar situation where all this is new and crazy and you just think it can be pulled out from under you at any time.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Being scared to lose it all is. That's what keeps you up at night.
Bobby Bones
My business manager at a point had to say, hey, you need to stop overpaying your bills and give us full control now. Because I would overpay them thinking if I was ever fired, I needed a buffer.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay, Okay. I get it. Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
But that's what I was doing, and I was doing really well, but I was still like paying.
Bailey Zimmerman
Cause that is the way we were raised. If you can get ahead on bills.
Bobby Bones
When something bad does happen, you're okay. They won't shut off your power, dude.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's so funny. Like, and anybody listening to this right now understands if you've lived that, like, you get it.
Bobby Bones
She was like, you have to stop overpaying your bills.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Because they just keep sending us checks back. And I'm like, but I want to be good in case I'm ever not good.
Bailey Zimmerman
Right? Yeah.
Bobby Bones
It was a big commitment for me to do auto bill pay, job they're automatically gonna take. What if I don't have it? That was my fear. Like, what if they come forward into my auto pay and I don't have it?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. It's so true.
Bobby Bones
And I've been good now. Like, it just. It's exposure therapy.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I still get nervous sometimes and I have trouble. Like, sometimes I'll work myself to death and my wife will see it. And it's great having a wife now that can understand that about me.
Bailey Zimmerman
That's gotta be nice.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And she'll go, who's working hard right now? You or 12 year old? Are you?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And there's a difference in the two because 12 year old me is just trying to survive.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. It's like, dude, dog eat dog.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
Like dog eat dog world. Like, I get it. Yo, yo.
Bobby Bones
You're playing arenas, dude.
Bailey Zimmerman
That's crazy.
Bobby Bones
And it's crazy. I say that in a way of like celebratory crazy.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
You're doing it.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's crazy.
Bobby Bones
You're doing an arena tour, dude.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's crazy. The kid in the trailer's doing the arena tour. That's so wild. This was my biggest dream. Like, this, this is like everything. I put my all into this, like, ever since I started and I played the first, you know, three or four or five shows and got that taste. And then I saw what can be done and like, I was just like, I want that bad. Like, I wanted it.
Bobby Bones
You nervous about tickets? Like, since it's a growth, right?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Are we nervous about tickets selling?
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, yeah, of course. I've been nervous about every single tour though. I don't think that'll ever go away because I always want to, like, really deliver for my fans. And I also have that thing where I'm like, am I delivering enough? Am I doing enough? Am I like, you know, is the show big enough? Is there enough pyro? Is there enough this? Is there enough? You know, like, can I do more you know, like, oh, man, my team's about to kill me this year. My budgets, bro.
Bobby Bones
Because you want to make the show so good.
Bailey Zimmerman
I just want to make it. I want them to go home going, that is the sickest show I've ever seen. Oh, my gosh. And so, yeah, dude, it's been, like, everything I've dreamed of. So I've been, like, overboard this year. Like, oh, yeah. And I was so nervous about the tickets selling because I was just like, I don't know, you know? I don't know.
Bobby Bones
You're trying something bigger, so. And you have tickets, you know? Yeah. You don't have anything to compare it to because it's new world for you.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
How to go?
Bailey Zimmerman
I think it went amazing.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
I think it was, like, 70% day of tickets. Oh, yeah. We sold out a bunch. Like, good. But it seems like everything's, like, gonna be sold out. And even. Even if I don't, like, sell it out, I think that can be, like, this, like, mark that artists, like, feel. Oh, if I didn't sell it out to failure, I don't care, dude, if I sell it. 70, 89, dude. 80% sold out on my first arena tour. That's my first time. I'll go try it again and write more music and do more things. And, you know, it's all, like, such an evolution. I think that's. That took me a long time to figure out too. Like, hey, not everything's gonna be so up and up and sold out. Sold out. Like, some things are gonna grow, some things are gonna whatever. And I think it's actually made it more fun because when it did almost sell out on the day of, I was like, oh, dude. Like, you just. I just like, holy crap. Like, I'm like, selling out arenas, bro. Like, we're gonna do this thing, like, Bud Stage. One of my favorite places I remember playing with Morgan was Bud stage in Toronto. I don't think it's called Bud Stage anymore. But anyways, dude, sold out on. On pre sale. And then we added. I think we had another night. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But yeah, dude, crazy.
Bobby Bones
Like, that's so mature. Because I still struggle with. If it's not. If I'm doing a theater, I'm telling jokes. It's not sold out. I'm like, I've lost it. People don't care as much.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, I get it, dude. I get it.
Bobby Bones
And I will go when tickets go on sale, and I'll look at every seat because theaters have seats, and I'll go, mmm, two together that aren't sold. Yeah, somebody didn't want to. People don't want to come and see me anymore.
Bailey Zimmerman
Dude, I get it.
Bobby Bones
You're way ahead. You're advanced.
Bailey Zimmerman
I just had to get over that because it was taking over my life. Like, it was like, ah, I'm not in the trailer anymore.
Bobby Bones
And I'm taking advice from you right now.
Bailey Zimmerman
I'm listening to you right now. No, it's. And honestly, I think, like, where I've come down to, the one thing I always go to is I'm putting energy into the art that I'm putting out into the world. And what happens to that art after I put it out in the world is not in my control. Whether they like it, don't like it, listen, don't listen. I am putting out what I love, and I am proud of every single day. And this show that I go do this year in the arenas, it's gonna be show that I'm very proud of. Whether I make a dollar or two dollars, whatever it is, I'm gonna be so proud of this show. And go, I gave that my all. And if that wasn't enough, then I gave it everything I got when I go home. You know what I'm saying? And that's what's made me be able to just be like, I'm proud. So we're good? It'll be good.
Bobby Bones
Have you rehearsed it?
Bailey Zimmerman
Not yet. We're still working pretty hard on it, trying to get everything. But it's so close. Like, say, like, 80%. So we're gonna go into rehearsals in, like, three weeks or so, I think.
Bobby Bones
Can you talk me through what a rehearsal is? Because I think a lot of people would just go rehearse. Don't you already know the songs?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. So it's like. It's kind of funny what it takes to get the show to feel so awesome and big and, like, professional, right? Like, it takes this sound coming out of the speakers when this thing hits, and then these lights hitting on the same beat to make sure everything feel big at the same. It takes. That takes, like, light by light by. I mean, these people, choreography. Hundreds of hours into just before the show. Let's talk about, like, pre prep, Right? Like, prep for pre rehearsal. We're doing all the videos that's going on on the screen where I redid my whole staging. So I redid everything. My, my. I redid my catwalk up top. I added things to my stage. I added more length to my thrust. I made My thrust bigger. I did different lights. Cause I didn like how those were hitting last year. Like, I mean, I detailed every single thing with this whole team I've got and all that. Pre pro, like pre production, we'll go into rehearsals, and then when we get into rehearsals, we'll have an idea of how it's gonna go. But then we'll build out, like, the big moments and make sure everything hits right on beat. And when. When this. When this pyro's going up, the boys, you know, my. My boys, Chris Jarkos, Brendan Orchard, plays bass, plays guitar. They. They'll jump up off the stage at the same time the pyro hits. And then when they come down, they'll both hit at the same time. That's what makes it look sick. And that takes a lot of work and a lot of time. And that's what rehearsal is for, is to make sure. I'll just go through and more. So choreography. Making sure. Like, moments to breathe. What am I doing? What are the boys doing?
Bobby Bones
Stop. Moments to breathe. That's like moments to catch your breath. It literally is.
Bailey Zimmerman
Because if not, you'll hurt your voice and then you'll be out of breath and it'll sound awful and then it won't sound good. Yeah, like all the moves and running around and stuff, it's just like trying to. Yeah. Figure out where to breathe. Singing the songs, doing it. And then it's also just like, you know, I played baseball growing up and my dad would always be like, make sure you put the weight on the bat on deck. Because if you go take those swings with that weight, it's going to feel real light when you get to actually go, you know, swinging in the box. So kind of the same thing with rehearsal is like we just do it over and over and over. And then I'll sit back and let the boys do it. After I figure it all out, I'll sit on the couch in the middle of this warehouse where we do it, and I'll watch the stage and be like, I don't like that. That's not good. And then I'll just fine tune it to where when we get to dress rehearsal the day of the first arena tour in Florida, it'll be like, minty dialed.
Bobby Bones
How do you know you're having a good show?
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, you just feel it, I think. I think, you know, you know, like you feel it. You're like, I'm kind of on a roll here. Like, I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But I think the difference is for Me, I can tell because I'm hearing laughter. I'm not wearing ears. When you're we wearing ears, it's a whole different monster. Because even if the crowd's mic'd up, there's a slight delay with yeah. So it's different for somebody that's wearing ears.
Bailey Zimmerman
My opinion is I turn my ears up and I play my best show. That's one thing I had to get through my head, too. Not every show is gonna be awesome, and not everybody's gonna have that energy that the middle of Ohio in a small town had. Right. You know, that just stupid energy. Flames. Oh, my gosh. They aren't freaking out. Some people sit there and just watch the show and listen, and some people aren't gonna be raging. And so I'm just in my ears. I'm gonna sing the best show that I'm proud. Like, I just wanna be proud of what I do. So I'm like, focus on the show, not the crowd. A big piece of advice that I got, man. Early. Early was early. Early. I've only been in it five years.
Bobby Bones
But.
Bailey Zimmerman
Was focus on the people that are there, not the empty chairs. Don't focus on the empty chairs. Cause what are you focusing on that for, bro? You just came from a trailer, and you're getting paid to sing these songs that you wrote with your. In a house in Nashville. Like, let's be grateful, let's be awesome, and let's try to play the best show as we can out there and rock as hard as we can. And if we're sweating and every night we go kind of back through and we go, hey, you know, this wasn't good. I'm gonna work on that in, you know, soundcheck tomorrow, or I'm gonna. So it's like, always an evolutioning thing, but not worrying about those empty chairs and focusing on the people that are there to support you and your songs and, like, what you're doing, you know? And they are raging. They are having fun. So let's go.
Bobby Bones
You're right. Because you talked about cars in a way you can tell. You love cars. You're talking about music in a way that dwarfs how you're talking about cars.
Bailey Zimmerman
Thanks, dude. I. It's, ah.
Bobby Bones
It's just so weird. It's so weird how you got here.
Bailey Zimmerman
Weird, dude. Unorthodox. Very unorthodox. I think everybody feels it too. Even my mom. Like, I've had to be like, this is weird, huh? And she's like, this is so weird. Like, you're. You're like.
Podcast Host
Like.
Bailey Zimmerman
You're like country rocks. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Not. Not wrong.
Bailey Zimmerman
So weird. No, it's just weird.
Bobby Bones
Just weird. It's. It's weird how I got here. It's kind of weird how everybody gets here.
Bailey Zimmerman
We said, my bass player, Chris Jaros, when we're playing golf, and you know how you'll hit that weird but good shot where it's. It's. Well, that was weird, but it worked.
Bobby Bones
It didn't look like maybe the best one would look, but it's there. Yep. Yeah, that'll.
Bailey Zimmerman
That's so true. Yep. Weird, but good. Here we are.
Bobby Bones
Hang tight.
Bailey Zimmerman
The Bobby cast will be right back.
Bobby Bones
Welcome back to the Bobbycast. I want to do this. Give me the three questions that people ask you in every single interview. I should have done this at the beginning, because I never wanted to do that.
Bailey Zimmerman
What?
Bobby Bones
When you sit down for an interview.
Bailey Zimmerman
Okay.
Bobby Bones
What's the one question you know they're gonna ask every time? Hmm.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh. So how's the search for a wife?
Bobby Bones
Okay. And then what do you. I just want a quick answer. What do you say to that?
Bailey Zimmerman
Not the greatest. I mean, still here. Here we are.
Bobby Bones
All right, give me number two. Every interview, you get asked.
Bailey Zimmerman
Hmm.
Bobby Bones
And probably now you're gonna get a lot about your mom in those videos.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's usually, I would say, maybe the second most thing is, like, Marley and Pie. You know Marley and Pie? Cause I post about them a bunch. My golden retrievers. Marley and Pie are my two golden retrievers.
Bobby Bones
I liked. You look at the camera and talk. Yes. In the fourth, then you do a karate. That's okay. I did it earlier, too. Yeah. Then you do a karate chop.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Okay, we got the dogs. And give me one more.
Bailey Zimmerman
Hmm. I think the same thing. Like, how weird is it that you're, like, a country artist now, and you're, like, selling, like, lots of tickets, and you're, like, doing the big thing, and I'm like, really freaking weird. And they're like, how is it? And I always say, imagine, like, yourself right now. Close your eyes. You know, Close your eyes with me, Bobby.
Bobby Bones
Here we go. Eyes are closed. I'm ready.
Bailey Zimmerman
You're in your bed, and your eyes are closed. And you posted this video last night, but you're just, like, some random kid in some small town of, like, 800 people in your mom's trailer. And you wake up, and you're like, phone. Now open your eyes, right? You're awake, and your phone is, like, blowing up off, and it's, like, almost Buzzing off the table, and you grab it, and your TikTok says 800 and something. Thousand notifications, and your song's, like, gone viral. The part of your song that you wrote, super weird, but good. So that all of a sudden, you're just like, you quit your job, day of go figure out how to record the song. Fast forward. You keep doing videos. You keep doing that. You're like, you ask your mom for 1500 bucks. You go to the studio, you record the song, you put the song out, and it streams, like, millions. Like, first five days, 10 days, whatever. And then all of a sudden, you're in Nashville and you're living, and you just signed a record deal. Then all of a sudden, Morgan Wallen calls you. He's like, hey, did you want to go on a stadium tour for two years? And I'm like, yeah. And then I go do that, and then I go do my own tours that sell out, and I put out songs. And then, like, my first album, you know, religiously, the album breaks records. Imagine all that happening. That's happened to me. To you. And that's exactly how it feels. And it is crazy, bro. Like, I'd wake up every day and I'm like, dude, like, pinch me. This is crazy. Like, really, really cool.
Bobby Bones
One of my favorite parts of your story, because I totally related it was you coming down here and really not knowing the difference in an agent and a manager and. Because who knows that, Stu until you're, like, taught it?
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. I thought I couldn't have. I remember telling you this. I thought you couldn't have a manager and a label at the same time.
Bobby Bones
But who knows the difference? Again, unless somebody takes you by the hand and says, here's what a record label does. Here's why you need a manager. Here's the difference in a manager and an agent. Who knows what those people do? I would just hear people do award show speeches and roll my eyes and be like, I want to thank my agent and my lawyer. And I'm just like, like, why are you thinking these two? Are they not the same person? What do they even do that sounds. But then once you kind of get in it, you're like, oh, all these people are, like, vital.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, dude.
Bobby Bones
And they're. Dude, they do different jobs.
Bailey Zimmerman
Oh, yeah. And the. And the manager, lawyer. They all sound like big words. Like, wow. Big words. I don't even know what that is.
Bobby Bones
You little award speech. You think you're so good. You have a lawyer, you have an agent.
Bailey Zimmerman
No. It's so true, though. Like, nobody knows until you're, like, in it and you're like, oh, dang, I have to have all these people or my business won't run.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It's always crazy to learn about having to pay percentages because you get a manager, I get a manager. And they're like, yep, we want to represent you. We're gonna be sure to get you these deals. We're gonna. Every day to day, we're working with you, Macro micro. That'll be 15% of everything.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. What? Yeah. And at the time, you're kind of just like, I didn't even know. I was like, okay. I don't know.
Bobby Bones
I was like, am I gonna waste it?
Bailey Zimmerman
I was given 20% at the start of my career. Yeah. But, hey, I honestly am so blessed, dude. I've had so, like, my team in my corner now. We had gone through some bumps at the beginning with. I had had two managers. Really? Like, nobody knows this about me, but I had two managers when I first started, and then I kind of parted ways with one of them. And my team now kind of really helped me with that and got me through it and taught me, like, showed me. And like, okay, this is how. And they kind of like. And now they're my team now, dude. Love them to death. Like, wouldn't be able to run without them. But, like, they were. The ones that kind of took my hand were like, yeah, we didn't love that deal and that thing, but we didn't want to. You know, you don't know us and trust us yet. So we don't want to try to tell you what to do because we want to let you do it. And I was like, okay. So it's like the learning lessons were there, but I got very blessed with a small learning lesson. It wasn't like this. It didn't destroy, you know, because some people, man, that can, like, it's very important. And anybody that asked me, like, what's one piece of advice, you know, when you're being an artist or whatever, that.
Bobby Bones
Could have been an answer to? What do people ask you?
Bailey Zimmerman
Nobody asked me that very often. But when they do.
Bobby Bones
Okay, what's one piece of advice you'd give to people coming to town?
Bailey Zimmerman
I would say, like, knowing what's going on and, like, understanding the business of what's happening.
Bobby Bones
Like, but how would they learn that? Because you get swept. It's. When you're here. You got swept here.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
How do you learn that?
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, you choose the right people to teach you, of course. Which is hard, but you got to go by your gut. You got it. You know, like, I have faith. I have my faith that I lean on. So I have prayer and I have, you know, that's what I have to lean on. So I was like, I think this is the right thing. But also I read this book and it's called Everything youg Need to Know about the Music Industry.
Bobby Bones
See, that's some real practical advice right there.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes. So, like, I have certain things that I choose to have, but something anybody can go get. Hey, Amazon. Everything you need to know about the music industry. Unbelievable. Teaches you just the basics of, like, okay, understanding what everything is and just like, the basic understanding. But the more important thing is knowing who you're getting into, like a partnership with and understanding that, like, hey, this is years of your career. And they are going to have control of this and they are going to have. Have like, percentage of this. And, like, you got to make sure that they're going to want to work as hard as you and believe in you as much as you believe in you. And there's all these things. But I think a lot of people sometimes come to town on this, like, fairy tale dream that everybody's just going to be nice. And then, like me, I got introduced kind of to the real world of how some cats can be and like, the world. And like, it was kind of just like small learning lesson. But yeah, I would say just be careful who you give percentage of your. Your art to and what you're doing, because that's like, you sign that contract, that's a contract, and that's a real thing.
Bobby Bones
So we have people that bring by music that means a lot to them. And so that record in front of.
Bailey Zimmerman
You, we hold that up and I'm so excited.
Bobby Bones
And walk us through why you picked this and what it is.
Bailey Zimmerman
I am so excited.
Bobby Bones
Show it to that camera you've been making love to. There it is.
Bailey Zimmerman
Hello. This album is called Pawn Shop. And you want me to explain why it's important to me? Yeah, you're on, brother. So they told me, I'm giving you an album. That's what they said, Bobby. They were an album. Can I say this?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you can say whatever you want.
Bailey Zimmerman
Am I allowed? Like, is there secrets that I should be keeping? Okay, okay.
Bobby Bones
But I will charge you a percentage.
Bailey Zimmerman
So they were like, hey, you're supposed to get one of your favorite records, vinyls, and they're gonna give it to Bobby for the podcast. And, dude, this is like. And it's crazy. I Just want to. Okay, so what do you want me to do? Tell them why.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's Brothers Osborne Pawn Shop. Why does that record mean a lot to you, Jeb?
Bailey Zimmerman
This record means a bunch to me because I remember hearing it for the first time because it was 2016. 2016. I got my license that year. Pawn Shop was just cranked. And the first time I kind of fell in love with this girl from a town over. Our song was 21 Summer off this record. And every time I hear that song, it just takes me right back, man. And I'm just like. I'm chills right now just, like, thinking about, like, how much this, like, impacted my life. And, like, just the song. Every song just goes through, and, man, they. They put that. The Outros on there, and they put the, like. It's just a record, man.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's great. Oh, dude, you know those guys.
Podcast Host
Guys.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. Oh, man. I've got to see him live so many times. I just got chills thinking about watching them just shred live. I've gotten to see him live, stood backstage, partied with them. Oh, yeah. They're the boys, dude. Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
That's exactly what you're supposed to do.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yep. Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. He can lay down now.
Bailey Zimmerman
So, yeah, favorite record. Great record. And it's funny. So another thing, which is crazy, the other day, three weeks ago. Okay, three weeks ago, I'm in my car, and I don't listen to music a lot. I usually kind of take car rides to just focus and kind of think and let my brain just, like, wonder this, like, figure stuff out. I don't know, just think. And I just got on my phone and just clicked Pawn Shop and just let the whole record go. I don't listen to records all the way through very often. I don't listen to music very often, but for some reason, I just threw that on. And then the other day, I see that the 10th anniversary is coming out. How weird that just, like, all of a sudden, I'm just, like, randomly listening to music I don't listen to a lot. And it's this record, and they're about to put the 10th anniversary, and it's.
Bobby Bones
Like, a deluxe version they're putting out of that record.
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, allegedly, I looked at it on Spotify, and it's got the demo of Pawn Shop, which is gonna be pretty cool, so. Because I always love when artists do that, like, put out demos and how it worked and how. Because I don't think a lot of people know that, like, how a song.
Bobby Bones
Gets written that would be a cool thing for you to teach everybody. So walk us through that. So you go. You have a right. Today you write with. So let's just start there. You write a song. Let's say. Let's say the song's called I Love People. That's gonna be the name of the song. You write the song, then what happens?
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, I would have came in and sat down just like this. And I'd have grabbed the guitar and I'd been like, I had this the other day, this guitar riff. And then we would have. Oh, I love that. Well, and then I'd have been like, what about this melody? Oh, I love that. And then we would have wrote the words and then ended up just writing a song and keep bouncing off each other. And then after a song, is it written?
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
Written?
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
After the song's written.
Bailey Zimmerman
After the song's written, I would say, like, if you're loving it and you're like, yo, I got it. Cause you'll feel it. You'll be like, dude, I gotta get this cut. I gotta show people this. And usually it's not good enough to show people yet because you hear it in your head. You know how like, you know, do you ever, like, show people something? You'd be like, well, I'm gonna change this.
Bobby Bones
It's not all the way done yet, but it's not. Just go ahead and picture it.
Bailey Zimmerman
If we did it, like, just imagine if there was like this one bell, like, hitting right here. And like, so I'm like, so you'll feel that, right? You'll be like, okay, I gotta get this done. So go to the studio, cut it. And honestly, for me, it's like every day after that is just like musicians getting the musicians into the studio, cutting it. The way a lot of people don't know how hard it is to cut a guitar. You don't. When you write a song, you'll write it, but then when you go to produce it and make it real, sometimes that guitar riff doesn't stay and you'll have to, like, like, keep trying new things. So you'll just, like, in that. And on that chord, you'll try to find some pick thing. Or, like, it takes sometimes hours or days or months. Like, on some of my songs, it's taken. Like, we would be like, man, something's not right about this song. And then it would end up being this one acoustic little thing that just threw it off or made it too slow or too whatever. But, like, it takes time to find, like, the guitar the drum groove, does it have drums? Is it not drums? You know, so, like, you kind of go through that whole process of just making the song so you've written it and now you're in the studio, and then you're just like, I just spend every day after that just, like, with the musicians, and we'll call the guitar back in if it's not, you know, whatever. And then cutting the vocal, I think I take, like, 100 and usually like 100 takes of this, 120 takes of the song over and over and over and verses and verses and verses, and then choruses and choruses and choruses and over and over and try to get really comfortable. And then usually about 121, I'll really just. Just hone one in. That's like, all right. Like, perfect. And then once you've got everything where you like it, it's done. And you can start the marketing, management, that whole thing, you know?
Bobby Bones
Do you ever feel like you get so inside of a song, though, you can't tell if it's good anymore because you're so inside of it?
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, it's like, I feel like I've been there sometimes, but then it ended up. I was actually not wrong. I was like, no, there was something wrong with it. And that's why my gut kept telling me, so you just trust your gut. I do. And I'm like, if it's not perfect, I'm like, I don't wanna. I don't. I don't feel like I'm proud of this yet. It's just. There's something off. Like. And it's really hard, too, because people will be around you and they'll be like, oh, like, this is it, dude. No, it's good. It's good. And it's like, they're not making this. Do not listen to them. I'm making this. It's not good enough yet.
Bobby Bones
Your name's on it.
Bailey Zimmerman
There's gonna be a reason, and then they're gonna be. And every single time you go back and show them after you fixed whatever you've wanted to fix, they go, oh, you're right. That does make it a lot better. And I'm like, thanks. Yeah. So. Yes, dude, follow your gut, man. Just. If you don't like it, then you don't like it. Like, it's your art, you know? Got to put it out how you like it.
Bobby Bones
Follow your gut. You very much followed your gut to get here, and you made a lot of difficult decisions, risky decisions to get here. Meaning you Quit your job, you moved, you got money from your mom. You just packed up. Like, what do you. People watching or listening to it right now? I don't know if I should. Like, what is your advice there to people just chasing a dream?
Bailey Zimmerman
I mean, really, it's chasing a dream advice. What gets you so riled up? Like, you know, kind of like you were saying earlier, like, how. You know how amped I am about cars and music. Like, are you amped like that about what you're doing? And are you? I was. I was. When I. When I. That video went viral and I saw the opportunity. My dad, like, growing up always was, like, if you got opportunity, that's not gonna come around very often, and when you get it, you better take a hold of that and you better run with it as fast as you can, like, and as hard as you can. I mean, just, like, take it, you know? And so when I had that opportunity, I was just like. When I discovered songwriting, for me, it just felt like, man, like, freeing, and I could, like. And when I wrote that song, that was the first song I ever tried to, like, really write. It was called Never Coming Home. And. And when I first tried to write that song, just writing a song and nothing is wrong. There's no wrong way to do anything. And that's what I just loved. I'm like, there's nobody's telling. There's no wrong way to do this. I'm just writing a song that, like, resonates with me. And then I remember listening to it on the way home that night after I wrote it, and just listening to, like, my. Like, my voice through the speakers, and it. It made me so. Just amped and just, like, this is making me electric, and I haven't felt this ever in my life. Just so amped about something and hyped up and caring about something so much. I would say, like, that feeling, man, when you have that, like, don't let that go and don't be scared and let that scared, like, well, what if it doesn't work? But what if it does and you got this passion and fire in your stomach, and you can feel it, and you're like, man, I love this. Like, don't let that go. Like, that's what I did when I felt that. That's what my dad always, like, taught. Like, if you. If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. And I was so scared of working for the rest of my life on something that I didn't love and something that I hated. That's where I was at in my life at the time, was like, I hate what I'm doing, and I don't want to spend the rest of my life like this. And, man, when I. Like I said, when I got into music writing, it was just like this thing that just took a hold of me, and I was just like, man, I love this, bro. And the feeling of writing a hit when you write it, and the feeling of, like, you know, playing that awesome show or, you know, whatever it may be when you're doing it, don't lose that and just chase it. Yeah. Chase that dream that you feel, because, yeah, you never know when that's gonna go away. And that's. Oh, man. That's what, like, I wish everybody could feel. Like, we feel, you know, that fire when you wake up. I love waking up. I love waking up. I love getting out of my bed. I'm like, thank God I'm alive. I'm gonna go wrong. Oh, dude. Yeah. I'm like, good morning, girls. I got my gold golden retriever girls. I'm like, love you, girls. Let's go work. Let's go grind. It's time to write songs. It's time to keep going. Like, I just love it, man. And, like, so to anybody out there that feels that fire and, like, whatever, dude, chase that. Let's go. Like, one life. And we all got the same 24 hours in the day, so let's go.
Bobby Bones
We're about to wrap this up, but Stephen Wilson Jr. Was talking to Steven Wilson Jr. And he was talking about he was working as a scientist and he'd done music, obviously, and that he had the urge to do music.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But he hadn't. You're talking about Stephen Wilson Jr.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's crazy you're saying this. I was just saying this the other.
Bobby Bones
Day, how wild he started to feel like if he didn't get called to go do music, that's when he was a failure. And he wanted to chase it while he. Before it went away on him because he felt like if he ever went to work and didn't have the dream anymore that he failed.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yes, dude.
Bobby Bones
And so it was really hard. He had to leave his job and start over and wait at tables for years and. But he was like, yeah, I was scared that I wouldn't have that calling at me anymore, because I knew when it wasn't calling me anymore, that dream was dead.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yep.
Bobby Bones
That guy. That guy makes music. That guy makes music I like personally love and honest.
Bailey Zimmerman
He makes music that makes you Question if you're a real artist or not. Because when I listen to him, like, I came to town 2021, and was listening to 1994, Year to Be Young, 1994, Steven Wilson Jr. Just, dude. And I got to tell him this backstage, the CMA Awards. And I was just like, dude, like, this really resonated. And you could tell he was, like, so appreciative of me saying, like, wow, this really. Like, this got me through. Like, I feel this dude, like. And, yeah, it's crazy. Dude was a scientist.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
What? Like, dude was a scientist, and he's legend. Like, you talk to him, you're just like, holy crap, dude. Like, your songs are just.
Bobby Bones
I told him. I didn't even know how to tell him how much, because this town, everybody says they love everything, of course.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. Right, right, right.
Bobby Bones
But there are only a couple of things that I personally consume and love. There's a lot of things that I like and respect and understand. It's awesome.
Bailey Zimmerman
Of course.
Bobby Bones
But there's only a couple or a few things that I consume that really touches me in a place where everybody's trying to be touched.
Bailey Zimmerman
Well, because we're humans.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And we're jaded, and we're in the middle of it all. And I was like, it may have been kind of weird to him, but I was like, dude, I love what you do. Like, I actually like your stuff. It was just a weird compliment to say, I actually like your stuff.
Bailey Zimmerman
I've said that before, too, because you're like, hey, I don't like a lot. Yeah, that's you.
Bobby Bones
I love you.
Bailey Zimmerman
And I don't know if that means anything to you, but. No, that's for me. Yeah. Like, and I feel like that dude really takes that to the soul. Because I was having trouble, too, because I was like, dude, like, I didn't.
Bobby Bones
Know how to compliment.
Bailey Zimmerman
You're like, legend, bro. Like, you're in, like. I don't know. I keep saying, like, like, like. Because I have no idea what to say.
Bobby Bones
That's how I was with him. That. That conversation comes up in about a week or so on. This week it'll be on. And it was. It was really like, that guy has won. Been through it.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. Crazy.
Bobby Bones
And is able to express it through music that makes you not only understand what he went through, but makes you understand what you're going through now. It's like, you're. You know, we hear music and assign our own stories to it, and he's able to, one, give you his story and have you feel your story inside of that, and it's a rare. It's a rare thing. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. And we're back on the Bobby Cast. Different night, same rodeo. Tour kicks off in February. It's gonna roll all the way through June. Who's out with you?
Bailey Zimmerman
Hudson Westbrook.
Bobby Bones
And I love Hudson Westbrook, his music, because I like that acoustic guitar emotion. That's another person. And also, he's way younger than I am, so I didn't want to be like, I love you because I don't want you. But, like, his stuff's real.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah. No. When I first heard it on TikTok, I was like, yep, there it is. Yep, here it is. And then I've been a fan from that day on, and then I didn't think he was gonna say yes to going on tour with me. And he hit me back. He's like, dude, I'd love to. And I'm like, really? He's like, yeah. I'm like, all right, Sick. Let's go, dude. Yeah. Now you get the kid what he wants. Yeah, let's go. I'm so excited. Not kid. I'm 25. He's same age as me, but, you know, give him.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, Morgan got to call you.
Bailey Zimmerman
How cool is that?
Bobby Bones
Now you get to call people and do that for them.
Bailey Zimmerman
It's crazy.
Bobby Bones
Dude, I'm so happy for you.
Bailey Zimmerman
Dude, I'm happy for you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
Like, I feel the same towards you as well. Like, I'm like, dude, this is like. And I feel really, like. Like honored to be a friend because. Remember when we first got together?
Bobby Bones
No, I agree. I. And we don't. This town keeps people from talking a lot because we're not in town.
Bailey Zimmerman
We're.
Bobby Bones
It's. It's a run, run, run, go away world. But I reach out. I don't reach out to many folks, but I try to hit you up every couple of months. If we don't talk and just be, like, thinking about you.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I know you don't need me, but if you ever do, I'm right here.
Bailey Zimmerman
No, dude. And if I. It's nice to have friends that, like, don't.
Bobby Bones
Don't need anything from me.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman
And I don't. But if I do, I will call you. And if you do, like, Chad from Nickelback, I'll call him.
Bobby Bones
Really?
Bailey Zimmerman
I will. He said the same thing. Hey, I know you don't need me, but if you need anything, let me know. I'm like, I will.
Bobby Bones
Because I feel like I would call you I feel like I would call you if I needed something to be there. Yeah. Because I would feel like you wouldn't be thinking I was trying to get something from, like it would. It wouldn't be for any motive other than just like. Yeah, Like a relationship friend.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Bobby Bones
Well, I'm happy for you and you brought the mom stuff up, so that was all funny, but you brought the mom stuff up and my mom said she does love you and mom, thank you. You raised a good one. There you go.
Bailey Zimmerman
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Good to see you, man.
Bailey Zimmerman
Good to see you as well.
Bobby Bones
They're great. And do the karate chop on the cameras. I say, but goodbye. They're great. Bailey Zimmerman, everybody.
Bailey Zimmerman
I love you. Bye.
Bobby Bones
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Podcast Host
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Bailey Zimmerman
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Date: February 3, 2026
In this episode of the Bobbycast, Bobby Bones sits down with country star Bailey Zimmerman. The conversation digs deep into Bailey’s rise from small-town kid to arena headliner, his passion for cars, the meaningful way he gave back to his mom, and the challenges and joys of sudden success. The episode is rich in honest reflections, stories of struggle and gratitude, and the strong undercurrent of staying grounded amid fame.
Bailey shares inside stories about his viral rise, the emotional journey surprising his mom with a house and car, and the pressures and triumphs of his growing career. The tone is funny, genuine, and full of relatable moments about family, dreams, and never forgetting where you come from.
This episode offers a rich and intimate look behind the curtain of fast-rising country star Bailey Zimmerman. If you’re curious about how dreams take root and chase you back, how family keeps you grounded, or what happens after your TikTok explodes—this episode is both a laugh and an inspiration.