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The Bobby Bones Show
BOBBYCAST: Sam Williams on His Dad, Hank Williams Jr., Walking Out Mid-Interview with Bobby a Few Years Ago + Living Up to a Family Legacy + How He Got Dolly Parton on Happy all the Time + Not Having Family Money Like People Assume
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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
I'm glad that, you know, I was given my own name. I wasn't a Hank IV or something like that. And I'm sure that my dad probably wouldn't have wanted me to go into music at all.
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Sam Williams
This episode is with Sam Williams.
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Unknown
Sam is Hank Williams Jr. S son, so that makes Hank Williams Sr. His grandpa.
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Sam Williams
And I really wasn't gonna bring up.
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Unknown
The dad thing, the Hank Williams Jr. Him leaving the studio.
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Sam Williams
I wasn't gonna bring it up, especially.
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Unknown
Up front in the interview, maybe not at all because I never want the kid of an artist to feel like.
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Sam Williams
That'S the only reason we're talking to them. So I was relieved when he brought it up immediately.
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Unknown
Got right to it.
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Sam Williams
Yeah. To him, I think he was like, well, we're probably gonna talk about this, so let me get it out of the way. Let's just jump right in. So I had never met sam before. Act 2 Country Star is out now. It came out July 11, so go check it out. Go stream it. It's got seven tracks on it. And we talk about all of it. Talk about his grandpa, talk about his dad, talk about his career, why it's different, what it was like growing up as Hank Junior's son. All of that here with Sam Williams. By the way, his Instagram is Sam.
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Unknown
Williams, except it's spelled with a V, not an A, so it looks like Sam Willevims. Yeah, we'll put it in the episode notes so you can find it.
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Sam Williams
Yeah, it's hard to explain. Here he is, Sam Williams.
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Unknown
Sam, it is. Nice to meet you, man.
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Bobby Bones
Nice to meet you, too. This is amazing.
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Unknown
I don't think we met.
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Bobby Bones
No.
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Unknown
A lot of times in this town, as you'll probably back me up on this. You meet people very quickly, and you don't remember meeting them because it's like six seconds. And sometimes I'll be like, hey, nice to meet you. And they're like, oh, we met once.
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Bobby Bones
Or you know of. Or know what they're known for.
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Unknown
Well, I know of you, and I know what you're known for, and I know your music, but we've never met, I don't think.
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Bobby Bones
Well, I've always been familiar with you in a way. You know, not super close, but I know my dad on your podcast. I was familiar with that when he.
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Unknown
Walked out of the show. Yeah, that's funny.
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Bobby Bones
Everybody in the world sending this to me. They're like, did you see. I know you're busy. Did you see Your dad did this last week. I'm like, I'm sure he did.
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Unknown
You know, and I respected it, and I've talked about it a couple times since, because all my friends sent it to me. And in the moment, I didn't think much of it. Meaning people come in. Your dad, obviously very famous. I didn't realize he wanted to smoke a cigar. Like, I didn't know the real reason. So I'm glad you brought this up. Cause I may have never even brought this up. Your dad, who I grew up listening to because my grandmother was a massive fan. And so I grew up listening to your dad.
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Sam Williams
My. And he was coming.
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Unknown
I was like, great. It was him, and it was one of the guys from Black Keys who was producing the record.
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Bobby Bones
Dan.
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Unknown
Yeah, Dan Aubrey. And so they came in and your dad just Had a big personality about him. And I was like, classic Hank. Hank Jr.
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Bobby Bones
Deep breath.
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Unknown
Yeah. And he was on. But I'm okay. Like, I'm up for it.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
And so we're kind of going back and forth, and I'm like, this is the game. I'm totally in. I didn't realize somebody told him he couldn't smoke a cigar in the building, and that's why he was ready to get out of there.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. So that was just, like, one sentence that. That damaged everything. You know what happens sometimes people just do things, though. They can. They just do things. And he is one of those people that just does things. And wanting to smoke a cigar and not getting to is probably one of them. But I guess apologies on his behalf, but no, that's the icon stuff.
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Unknown
I guess I thought that's pretty cool. That's honestly what I thought, because I didn't. I also didn't back down, but I was. It wasn't like. And feel like we were fighting. It just felt like we're both like, all right, well, if this ain't right, we'll just go on to the next thing.
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Bobby Bones
Well, I think he's unfamiliar with, like, this environment of, like, doing this type of thing. It was a long time ago that he was more doing that and, you know, used to doing whatever he wants. He would rather be in a deer stand or, like, something like that, planning where to hunt bear in Minnesota. But. But, yeah, everybody would send that to me, be like, have you seen this? I'm like, yes.
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Unknown
That's so funny. It was really one of my favorite moments, like, the last, like, 10 years or so.
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Bobby Bones
Because it was real.
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Unknown
It was absolutely.
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Bobby Bones
There's a lot that's not real, and at least that. That's a real moment. Right.
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Unknown
And it never felt, like, honestly, angry. Like, I think both of us were just like, all right, cool. I mean, you have to.
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Bobby Bones
You can go, oh. And he got the joke in about the. How this. There's this much left on a cigar that Uncle Harold used to say, that's like an ism. You know, that's like a always. So at least a few quotables.
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Unknown
I'm glad you brought that up, because I may have forgotten all about that. It is. Well, you walked in, you mentioned the lion. We have these lions, but, like, right when you walk in there, I don't know if you touched one of them.
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Bobby Bones
I did not. I didn't know if that was.
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Unknown
Well, they don't. They're not, like, super valuable or anything, but we have these Lions by our pool, and they're probably five feet taller. So we ordered them. We went to one of these websites, and it was like, they'll deliver it from Atlanta. And my wife wanted these lions, and they were like, they're 300 pounds each. And so I remember it was my birthday and there were a few of us over at the house, and they delivered these two lions that are £300 each. I bet you they weigh a thousand pounds. We couldn't get them out of the truck. The poor guy who delivered them was like, I don't know what to do. I. We took us like an Mike, what.
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Sam Williams
An hour, hour and a half at least.
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Unknown
We couldn't even get them back here. We rolled them out of the truck, into the yard and left them for a week.
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Bobby Bones
Dang.
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Unknown
Like, they're that heavy.
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Bobby Bones
You had to get, like a whole dolly situation to get it back here.
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Unknown
We had a dolly. We broke the dolly.
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Sam Williams
We had to hire people.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, my gosh.
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Unknown
To come and bring those lines. So thank you for at least acknowledging those lions.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, they're the whole vibe. They. They're like. They're over. They're overlooking the pool. They are.
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Unknown
And they're basically a thousand pounds. Crazy. Anyway, I'm going to tell you why I like you and why I've always. Well, I've known who you are, why I'm fond of what you do. Mostly it's because of how you do it. Meaning I've always been given crap since my arrival in Nashville because I don't really look like I'm supposed to look. Meaning, especially when I got here. No belt buckle, no cowboy hat.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
And even though I'm from Arkansas and spent a lot of my life moving around in trailer park, like I was like. Like white trash redneck country, but I wasn't cowboy, and that wasn't considered real. And I'm in cardigans and I'm wearing nice tennis shoes and they're like. Well, yeah, you're not country spectacles.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
Nerdy. Great point. Thanks for reminding me I'm a nerd. Yeah. Nerdy glasses. But I think that's also. I think what I've been drawn to about what you do is you kind of. And I mean this in a complimentary way. You kind of don't care.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. I mean, I think that it's. It's kind of natural for me. I don't really care. I mean, I think that I have plenty of insecurities that show their face all the time, but, I mean, even you like your Sneakers right here. These are Louis Vuitton off white Nike. It's a whole thing.
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Unknown
Look at you knowing that and like.
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Bobby Bones
You'Ve made that cool people. What's his name? Jesse Frazier. Yeah, his shoes are crazy. Jesse got a lot. So it's like a cool thing now. So I think that, you know, the more people get to like what they like, because liking stuff is cool and doing stuff is cool and being yourself is cool, you know, it becomes a little bit more normalized. But I think that sometimes I have to, you know, know that I'm going against the grain. But a lot of the time, I just can't help it. It's just I'm gonna do what I wanna do and I'm gonna do my damnedest to do it well. And, you know, I was never. I was never gonna fit in the preconceived boxes and, you know, Sonics and image of what is the Nashville Standard. And you know, as you're saying so in music and definitely with my legacy, it's. It's completely, you know, compounded by that. But that's why I think I kind of have no choice but to just be exactly myself.
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Unknown
Well, you have the pressure and the bonus of a legacy. Right like that. It's not just amazing because there's a lot of. It is cool, but there's a lot.
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Sam Williams
Of pressure to a legacy.
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Unknown
Like things that people will compare you to unfairly, even. Even if you don't ask for it.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
Did you ever think about not using the name?
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Bobby Bones
No. I mean, I think that it'd be fun. I make plenty of jokes all the time about what would my stage name be, but, I mean, it's authentic. There's no gimmicks. It's just my name. And I'm glad that, you know, I was given my own name. I wasn't a Hank the Fourth or something like that. And I'm sure that my dad probably wouldn't have wanted me to go into music at all.
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Unknown
He would have rathered you not, I'm sure.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'm sure. His mom, Audrey, I never met Audrey. She died 20 something years before I was born. I'm sure she would have made sure that I was in music, that I would have been learning, you know, stuff when I was little. So, I mean, I kind of came to. Not with much musical background. You know, my dad's a whistler at home. A whistler. Talk about the weather, going down the road, humming, you know, not playing records. And this is what I love, you know, not like Me and my kid in the car necessarily at all. So I think that it was like a scary thing for me for a long time of if this is something I wanted to do, what would it look like for me? I like Britney Spears and Justin Bieber and jt, you know, so as a kid, I think it was something I very much shied away from. And then later on, it just kind of made sense, you know, for a while. It doesn't. You don't know what you're doing and you're doing something. And then, you know, I think just over the past couple years, it's kind of just all fell in line for me. Like, I get it now. I get what I'm supposed to do and, like, how to do it, and it feels good, you know. I think that a lot of people probably like me as a writer. You write the most sad music first. I mean, just out the gate with it. Cause it's like dying to get out in a way. And with the new project, I'm definitely able to be able to have fun with my music for one of the first times. Kind of similar, I think, and I've kind of realized to my dad in the 70s and into the 80s of not wanting. He would always reference. Not wanting to sing those old sad songs, you know, and many things, and feeling better, even, which is one of my favorites. And then the sound kind of changed and there was a. More of a pride and a joy to the. And raucousness to the music.
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Unknown
Aesthetic change, too, for him?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah, Big time.
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Bobby Bones
Well, I mean, the Mountain Fall did that too. But, yeah, you know, all my reinvention comes from Hank Jr. No, not all of it, but I think that, you know, I had to. I was very adamant about writing all my songs, writing all my music, and it being something unique. So if somebody didn't like it or they wanted to take power from me because they didn't like what I was doing, that it was still something very real, you know. And I think that's always been my thing and who knows where my career is going, but, like, I'll always have that to fall back on. And I think with this project, I'm really having fun with it and been able to, you know, really open it up. And I'm just trying to. I'm knocking on the ceiling, you know. I feel like with each thing that I do is what I'm trying to.
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Unknown
The Jelly Roll intro is cool.
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Bobby Bones
Yes. Yeah, yeah. It's from a documentary we did together. Big shout out to Jelly Roll. Super Cool. It's super cool, man. Him, the Opry at the Ryman, like, years ago, he was there with Ernest and friends with Ernest, and he. He yelled at me, and he's like, asambo, when we gonna do that record, man? And I didn't really think anything of it. I was like, oh, man, Jelly Roll, he's crazy. Yeah, I should have done that. Still want to, but I've actually. You know, it is a crazy thing what's happened with Jelly Roll. And one of the. You know, one of the really cool things about it is that a lot of it is from an authenticity that he does talk about all the dark stuff and what he came from, even if he's doing something different now.
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Unknown
I was watching your TikTok where you're playing jelly, talking about you, and you're like, this is my intro. Did you.
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Bobby Bones
At rehearsal.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're kind of sitting there playing, did. Where did that come from? As in, did you lead them somewhere to say that? Did you say, like, what?
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Bobby Bones
I didn't even meet. I've never met him since years ago. We were in the same documentary called Rebel Country. That's like, going somewhere. And I think it was about the artists featured in it. What do they represent about being a rebel and country or what does that mean? And they just. I saw at the screening that he just said that about me.
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Unknown
No, that's like the greatest WWE hype.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Come on. Yeah. I want. I want a whole one, you know, I want, like, my dad has in the show all these references. God, I just know all the words to all of them from country artists like Justin Moore, definitely Jason Aldean or Luke or something. It's all them referencing him in songs like a mashup. And I want one from Dolly Parton. That's what I need. You know, One of my favorite things is here.
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Unknown
We got to work together.
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Bobby Bones
We have. Yeah. She. She's on my first album on a song called Happy all the Time. You want me to tell the story on that?
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Unknown
I would love to hear it.
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Bobby Bones
Gosh, it was really crazy. I was making my son breakfast one day, my manager calls with this idea, and she's like, we gotta get Dolly unhappy all the time. And I was like, really? Like, I'm really young. Like, you really just kind of ruined my day. Like, I want to dream big, you know? I do. I'm a big dreamer, but come on now. And we just kind of focused everything on it, tried to see any way we could get to her, and it ended up happening through this really amazing, sweet lady that my friend Bobby Tomberland is friends with. He's a older songwriter here, but he's, like, a country music history buff. He's the best. And knew someone close to her that does. Does Dolly's hair and has for years. And she just felt this calling to. To get her this song. She said she'd never given her a song from someone and family or friends in, like, 30 years. And I made a little package, and I wrote a letter and, like, type. I typewrite the lyrics a happy all the time out. It looked a mess, kind of. And I laminated it, but it was cute.
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Unknown
Like, well, if you laminated it, that's official.
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Bobby Bones
No, like, yeah. I was like, I know Dolly Parton. We're, like, the same. Like, I'm about to laminate this, and she's gonna. She's gonna think this is a whole thing. I'm sending her a care package. And like, in Modern Warfare, this is the. And she was moved by it, and she was. Yeah. And one time I had to. For her to listen to the song after getting it, I had to drive a boombox from Target in Brentwood to her offices in the rain. I'm, like, buzzing the gate. I'm like, hey, this is Sam Williams. I have this speaker for Ms. Dolly. She said to bring. She has to listen to it on a cd. And they're like, what? They finally let me in. I gave it to her. And we didn't meet them. We met later on. But it was just amazing because she was very detailed in asking me. I wrote to her what the song was about to me, and it was really special then. And she asked, what exactly do you want me to do? What lines would you like me to do and how should I answer to this? And it was awesome. You know, she's. I think she's always overly gracious than what is expected or required, you know, I agree.
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Unknown
She's been that way to me, too. And she definitely has not had to be that way.
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Bobby Bones
No.
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Unknown
Because she really doesn't have to do anything anymore.
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Bobby Bones
No.
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Unknown
Anything from her comes from her wanting or feeling like a situation deserves her help. Especially all the charity work she does, too. Right.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
I feel like when she works with me any way whatsoever, that's charity with you. That's art with me. That's charity.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. I was appealing to. I was appealing to ethos, for real. I mean, I wrote to her about the song. I think she really. There was, like, just some, like, weird parallels at the time. I'm from West Tennessee. She's from east Tennessee. I come from my money and this big, you know, big legacy, but a lot of tragedy at the same time. They just danced together, and she came from, you know, kind of nothing and built something incredible. And, you know, we talked about that some, and she was kind of. She was hard on me, though, like, a little bit stern. Why haven't you done this? You should have did an album like this.
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Unknown
Was it advice?
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Bobby Bones
What are you doing? Yes, but it was advice, but it was Dolly Parton business advice. You know, it was mega. So I was terrified. And she's just, you know, I think that she leaves such an impact. That's the thing.
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Unknown
Growing up, was there music around? You say your dad wasn't. You used historian for describing somebody else.
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Sam Williams
Was there a bunch of music accessible.
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Unknown
To you, or was it because his life was so much music and your grandfather's life was so. And your sis, like a lot of your family, does music, was there no music because it was so much music?
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Bobby Bones
To be honest, it was more like that. I mean, my dad had shows. He had shows in the summer. He does this most of the time. I mean, when I was little, it was probably different, but, you know, I think that playing guitar and writing songs in 20 minutes and, you know, rowdiness probably phased out by the time I was 5 in 2002, at least on his side, you know, So, I mean, I think that there's definitely. There's probably a lot of unsaid blockage there, you know, for all of us. He didn't get to grow up with his dad, and people don't really know that. They just think that, and he didn't. My dad was a lot older when I was born. It was. It was. I'm from Paris, Tennessee, you know, so I came from a really small place. Just drove from there this morning. You're still there? No, I just. I went back to grill steaks with my friends, and my son wanted to fish and. Yeah, so, I mean, it's nice. A lot has changed, but we still have a. A piece there and a place there, so, you know, hold on to that. But no, I mean, I think that my dad doesn't like to. He doesn't talk about music and listen to music. He talks about guns. He loves guns. History of guns, making bullets. This war fall off a mountain in Montana, you know, Mozambique one time, this grizzly bear. That's what my dad's vernacular is. He's a performer to. To everyone else, you know, not all the time. So I really was Able to draw inspiration from music, from whatever I exposed myself to, which was a lot.
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Unknown
When did you start learning music? At what age?
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Bobby Bones
Like, to sing?
- [19:21]
Unknown
Yeah, like. Like to actually create. More so than just hearing songs.
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Bobby Bones
I mean, I just would do weird stuff. As a kid, I told my mom I wrote Lucky by Britney Spears for her, and I was singing it for her. My sister came running down the stairs, my late sister Katie. And she was like, that's a Britney Spears song. That's my favorite song. He didn't write that. I'm the one who played it for him. I was so upset and sad.
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Unknown
That was kind of a jam, though.
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Bobby Bones
I love that. This is a story. Yeah. So, I mean, I never got technical with it. Then I actually moved to Nashville at 14 and lived here for a semester, my first semester of high school. And I thought I was going to take voice lessons, start doing stuff. And, like, you know, I didn't want my time to run out. Like, I think I'm scared of failure, and I always have been since very young. And I was like, everybody's doing stuff. I have to be doing stuff.
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Unknown
You moved here at 14. What do you mean? Who did you live with?
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Bobby Bones
Me and my mom lived here.
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Unknown
Got it.
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Bobby Bones
It was just six months, and I went back home, and it was. It was kind of a lot. I wasn't really ready for it yet. I wanted to be. I wasn't used to living around a bunch of, like, rich kids and stuff either. It was strange to me.
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Unknown
Were you the rich kid in Paris?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, for sure. And that comes with it. People don't like that. You know, I grew up, like, very used to that. But, like.
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Unknown
But were you known as the rich kid or was it obvious you were the rich kid? I think there's a difference. Like, did you dress probably both. Nicer? Did you have nicer stuff than everybody else?
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Bobby Bones
No, I was like a little kid. No, but, like, I've. I just have, like, a outlandish fashion taste and always kind of have. And that was the, you know, experimental period, so. And I do like cars, but, like. No, I mean, I think that cars. Yeah. I was like. As a kid, when I turned, like, 11, all I talked about was my first car for five years.
- [21:06]
Unknown
What was your first car?
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Bobby Bones
It was a 2008 BMW X5 from Gadsden, Texas. And it was tan metallic, and it had big rims and brown mahogany inside. I was, like, really planning on balling out and.
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Unknown
Why that car?
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Bobby Bones
Why that car?
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Unknown
Yeah. He said, you're talking about it for five years. I Don't know if that was the same car through all five years.
- [21:28]
Bobby Bones
Oh, no, I was just annoying. I was like, talking to my dad all the time, like, can't wait to get a car.
- [21:34]
Unknown
Why'd you pick the BMW?
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Bobby Bones
I tried to get a hardship license. I just really liked the color. It had a secret compartment on the dashboard that I thought was cool. And it had like the big flaps on the back, the older, big base, like X5s and the big mufflers kind of on it. And it was just super dope to me.
- [21:52]
Unknown
You still like cars?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I don't have enough money to, you know.
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Unknown
Well, now I'm confused.
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Bobby Bones
To flex my car money.
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Unknown
But now you're saying you don't have money?
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Bobby Bones
No, I mean, as a kid, I.
- [22:01]
Unknown
Grew up, you know, where's the money now?
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Bobby Bones
Oh, I mean, it's.
- [22:04]
Unknown
I don't look around.
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Bobby Bones
I'm trying to find it, you know, I try to find it. So.
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Unknown
So you're saying there's just not a bunch of money that's fed to you all the time now?
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Bobby Bones
Oh, no, no, I don't. I think a lot of me and Holly. I don't know if you know Holly.
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Unknown
I've met Holly.
- [22:19]
Bobby Bones
Me and Holly have this conversation all the time. Sometimes, like, people think that we just like, were born and just ate. Hey, good looking. Cheerios and just freaking family tradition till, you know, the cows went home and that's not it. You know, my dad's like a frugal, frugal man. Born in 1949. You know, it was a different world then. That's like his. What he said about the cigar. But no, I mean, my dad obviously helps me in ways and has been there for me in many ways before. But, you know, I mean, like, all my dad's kids have been on our. On our own thing.
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Unknown
When did you kind of have to go out and do it yourself?
- [22:57]
Bobby Bones
Probably about kind of always. But my son was born, I was 19, so it was a little bit different then. But, you know, I got a publishing deal when I was. Had just turned 21, so it was about then. So, you know, I'm jealous of people with the Lake Martin lake houses and the big boats. I went on a big boat recently, the other day.
- [23:18]
Unknown
Big boat, like a lake yacht?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. And that's really nice. So, you know, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get one of those one day. So right now I'm making my fun on the lake kind of songs. So, you know, I'm walking that direction that's the goal.
- [23:32]
Unknown
Big boat.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, kind of. But, like, I just grew up on the lake. It's not even really a materialistic thing, like guns. You want just a Sundancer? No.
- [23:42]
Unknown
Do you know a lot about the history of guns? Because you're. Because my stepdad was obsessed with civil war. That's like, 1960s baseball.
- [23:50]
Bobby Bones
My dad's obsessed with, like, the Civil War. I don't know about the history guns. I know more about, like, the history of the world and, like, international affairs than I do. That was what I brought a liking to.
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Unknown
What kind of student were you?
- [24:01]
Bobby Bones
I was a really exceptional student for kind of always. And then by high school, I had gotten into the places I wanted to go, and I just kind of stopped. The dream died for a minute, and then I ended up going to school here in Nashville for a few years in entertainment industry studies, whatever that means.
- [24:21]
Unknown
What does that mean? It's just a way to be able to come to Nashville and commit and go to school when really you're coming to Nashville to actually do entertainment. That's what I feel like it is for a lot of my songs.
- [24:30]
Bobby Bones
It's just when you just don't know what you're doing yet. Some people are just in an incubation period for too long, and they. They're just in that for too long. But I was just doing anything. I mean, I took before I was really, really writing. I remember my first year at Belmont taking a songwriting course, and I didn't really know what I was doing at all. And I don't know, though. Like, looking back, that was kind of the beauty of it. And when I work with people like that are more esteemed, like a John Paul White or Jim Lauderdale or, you know, people, you know, respected for their writing, they kind of celebrate that blank slate, this approach to making music. And, like, just even writing the other day, like, I kind of. I don't like to write the titles. I come in and see what I find and what I get to. And it's a lot. A lot of conversation into what's the message and what's the feeling and to get what I want to say. And I think that you. You take pieces of everything that's inspired you, and I just kind of tend to like to create in the moment, and I think maybe that changes at some point. You know, there's always, like, a weird evolution to the creating, I think. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
- [25:40]
Sam Williams
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Ryan Seacrest
And we're back on the Bobbycast.
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Unknown
Country Star Act 2. What's up with the acts? Why are they not different records? Like, really, what is. I don't know what you're. Why are you doing it like that?
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Bobby Bones
What's up with all the podcasts?
- [29:08]
Unknown
No, I hear you, but I label mine different for different reasons.
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Bobby Bones
Okay. I'm just kidding. I mean, I think that, you know, there's a creative aspect.
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Unknown
Yeah, is the act like. But also same show, but it's different parts of this. I guess that's what my question about the record is like. In your mind, creatively, why did you name it and separate them like this?
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Bobby Bones
I had too many songs and to not be a big artist. I'm not on country radio. I'm not supported by, like, a lot of the big, big boys here. So, I mean, I had a lot of songs and a lot of creativity, and it's like, where do we go? So I think that I kind of created this idea to show a different side of me in each thing and try to. To build a world, three different worlds out of the different music I make. Because that's kind of always been a thing, too. Was that, like. Not. Was just Sam being himself, but Sam's being so himself. Like, he's. This sounds nothing like this. And we like when he sings the sad ballads. So why. Let's do that. And I think that I was dying to grow. And I'd made songs like no Problem. And then when I had written Country Star, I was like, I think this is a whole thing. And we gotta, like, I wanna spread this out and introduce my music to people in a few different steps and, you know, get to show them different sides of me because nobody else is gonna do it for me. You know, I can't wait on one moment to launch my career and then do everything after. I think, you know, it's just industry's changed. So I think that with this, with Act Two, truthfully and creatively, I'd say the projects kind of revolve around fear. So Scarlet Lonesome from last year, it's more fear of losing love, losing someone, not finding yourself. You know, kind of the figuring it out country star is more so the chaos of, you know, fear of failure, fear of not being yourself. And, you know, I think that there's a lot of, like, chaos and mania that comes with the hard parts of life and figuring out who you are and trying to do it on purpose. And I wanted to embrace all the different sides of me. And I kind of naturally have a tendency to the darkness get into my music somewhere when I'm trying not to. So I think songs like Killed a Man in Tennessee, that's a song that's on Act Two. You know, there's hip hop in it, and I'm singing all over it and stuff. And it's kind of just me creating something new. And I'm getting to take ownership of some of my story that hasn't fit into the rest of my music so far. You know, it's not all sadness that's in me, and I think there's a lot of it. But people see that on the product. You know, what I put out more than the joyous and kind of driven and dreaming side of me. And that gets to come out here.
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Unknown
Who are your favorite artists of all time?
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Bobby Bones
You gonna give me guidelines or I just start?
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Unknown
No, I would just say you can even do ages. Cause I think the artist you listen to growing up shaped you, even if you don't realize they shaped you. I think about that because when you.
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Bobby Bones
Say Brittany Lucky, as a kid, I really loved Britney Spears, probably early Cheetah Girl, stage loved Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake for sure. I had the Justin Bieber haircut when he came out, and it was a problem.
- [32:32]
Unknown
There was the flop, the bang flop.
- [32:33]
Bobby Bones
There was an early jealousy there. And I was like, is he hot? Do I want to be him? Like, what is this? And I've kind of always. You know, I love Justin Bieber, too. I think I really loved Tyler Childers when he'd first kind of come out, right before Purgatory and after that. And that shaped a lot of my voice kind of at the time and the writing I was doing. Because I think, you know, moving here probably ages 18, 19, 20, I was just trying to absorb writing as well. Like, try to listen to a Joni Mitchell record. I love Lori McKenna, songwriter like what did her earlier songs sound like? What do people's songs sound like? That never came out. I listen to a lot of hip hop music, so, I mean, I think my favorite artist now would definitely be. I'm a. I'm a Big Barb. I love Nicki Minaj. It's like the creativity, the invention, the determination. And so 2010's hip hop. Drake, Nikki Wayne, I love J. Cole. But on a daily basis, I probably am one of those more nostalgia listeners that is listening to, like, your older favorite songs. Me and my son do a lot of Sean Kingston. Old Sean Kingston. I throw in some random Hank Williams sometimes just to.
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Unknown
You try to teach him to get it in there. Teach him music about who great grandpa was.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. I mean, he has plenty of questions. So, I mean, Honky Tonkin is the song on. On Act 2 that's coming out or.
- [34:12]
Unknown
That you did with.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'm singing with my grandpa. I did it. Yeah, we were in the studio.
- [34:18]
Unknown
Yeah. I don't know how to refer to him like Grandpa or Hank Senior or. Yes.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. I mean, because I watched you.
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Unknown
I watched you. The announcement of you talking about it. And I've seen some stuff where you're like, hey, I'm going to do this. Was that emotional at all?
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Bobby Bones
No, it would be for me, you know, if it does. Well, probably. But I mean, I've done some stuff of. I covered I'm so Lonesome I Could Cry. And that was really, really special to do because it was very reimagined and new chords to it. Just kind of a new thing. And Honky Tonkin. I wanted to do something fun and exciting and have another record on Act 2 that, you know, ties pieces of my story together. There's just a lot there. And I want to do something that was kind of campy and that was fun and not, you know, I'm not trying to have a songwriting exercise competition here. And I do that too much. I want to do the perfect little anecdote, you know, and it actually wrote a couple of different versions of Honky Tonkin and came to one that just felt like the perfect amount of quirkiness and polish, but, you know, also just fun. And the tag and the pedal steel feels so, so, so long ago, so 75 years ago. And it also sounds like, you know, the music being made nowadays and with, I think my. My kid, my son with Hank Senior, he has more questions about did Pop Pop sing the national anthem at Super Bowl? This, you know, a little bit more of that.
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Unknown
And Pop Pop's your dad?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
Which is his grandfather.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
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Sam Williams
Yes.
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Bobby Bones
My dad goes pop pop for most grandkids, So, I mean, he has many questions, but it's. It's a lot to understand for him. I think there's a lot of loss in my family, and there has been from long time before me and a lot since me. So I think it's, you know, it's probably a lot to take in. You know, I mean, my dad was on Post Malone's album. That was the coolest thing ever to him. You know, he's like, did they. What did they do? I'm like, I don't think they met.
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Unknown
He's got a pretty cool name.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. But, I mean, I think that, you know, he does a great job with it. I think I did. I do pretty great with it now. It's a lot of pressure, but as a kid, it was like typing on Google. It was scary.
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Unknown
Did you? Yeah. I guess you could find out stuff on Google.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Google was around In, I guess, 2007. I was 10. Yeah. One Google. I was like, how many results? No.
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Unknown
You're Tennyson.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
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Unknown
Where's the name come from?
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Bobby Bones
It's actually a writer. Alfred Lord Tennyson. He's a British poet. A long time ago at the Lightning Brigade.
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Sam Williams
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
That's cool.
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Bobby Bones
So I think I was trying to have him pass the Supreme Court justice test. Like, is it that interesting?
- [37:07]
Unknown
Do you want him to do music?
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Bobby Bones
No, I don't. I think he could be great probably at anything he'd like to do, and he may want to, but.
- [37:15]
Unknown
Do you think your dad felt exactly the same way about you?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Yeah.
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Sam Williams
And now do you understand?
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Bobby Bones
My dad used to say he's gonna be a senator all the time.
- [37:26]
Unknown
Never had the desire to be a senator.
- [37:29]
Bobby Bones
I did, though.
- [37:30]
Unknown
You did?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I sure did. I totally wanted to do that.
- [37:34]
Unknown
Why? Why? It's not, like, past tense. You still can't do it. You're still very young. But why?
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Bobby Bones
I guess nowadays you can do whatever you want.
- [37:40]
Unknown
You just say it and then you can do it.
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Bobby Bones
Boom.
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Unknown
Yeah. So you still maybe want to do politics?
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Bobby Bones
I don't know. I mean, it depends on how I look. At 39, if it's really given politics. If it's really given, like, 39. If it's given, like, House of Representatives.
- [37:56]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And microphone and suits and tailored suits, then if we might just have to do it.
- [38:03]
Unknown
You like being on stage?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [38:05]
Unknown
Do you love me?
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Bobby Bones
And I like when people know what they're talking about. I don't like, when people have no idea what they're talking about.
- [38:09]
Unknown
I don't understand. Keep going.
- [38:10]
Bobby Bones
Like, you know, everybody has a microphone and platform a lot nowadays. There's a. There's an oversaturation to it, and that's in more than just, you know, commentary. It's in everything. I don't think it would have worked out, though, if I would have been a senator. My dad would have been really mad if it would have worked out because it doesn't align. It would have just been a disconnect. It would have been like, you know, storm the Capitol. I don't know. Yeah, Yeah.
- [38:37]
Unknown
I feel. Yeah. How many shows are you doing now? Are you playing? A bunch.
- [38:42]
Bobby Bones
This summer, it has been like CMA Fest just happened to be really, really busy. I just had the Opry the other night, kind of last minute, and trying to plan some stuff around the album coming out, but the rest of the year is a little bit open right now, and it's figuring out the rest of music. Everything just that I'm working on. And I'd really love to get a tour for the end of this year, but I don't have anything announced right now.
- [39:05]
Unknown
Where do you feel you can be the most creative? And I'll give you an example. Mine is this setting. Mine is a shower. Because I have no phone. I would, but it'd get wet. So I can't. I don't have my glasses on, and it's like the only time and only space I have where really nothing can get to me. And it's where my mind is the freest, and I come up with more, mostly bad ideas. But every once in a while, one of them's pretty good. Like, mine is the shower. That's where I'm probably inspired the most. Where is it for you?
- [39:36]
Bobby Bones
Well, I thank the most to just songwriting, and I'm just on the ground. Like, I write pen and paper, so. Or highlighter and paper. You still write pen and paper? Yeah. Yeah.
- [39:46]
Unknown
I say still. You probably always written pen and paper, then, huh?
- [39:48]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Why?
- [39:49]
Unknown
Why? Why not a laptop? Why not your phone?
- [39:51]
Bobby Bones
I don't know. I like to make. Like, it's just about placement. I'm a visual learner. I have to make a whole. Like, it's just. I don't know how to describe it, but if I'm writing, like, a lot of words, I don't know if I'm going to use these words or what they mean. Like, I got to make, like, a bubble type map and look at them and figure out how I'm putting them together and what am I actually saying? But that's to do with music though. Like actual good ideas for life. I have no idea where I think of those, but I want to figure.
- [40:20]
Ryan Seacrest
Out the Bobby cast. We'll be right back.
- [40:24]
Sam Williams
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- [42:25]
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- [43:35]
Ryan Seacrest
This is the Bobby cast.
- [43:37]
Unknown
Can you write by schedule? Meaning I'm gonna write 10am tomorrow and at 10am you sit down and you write.
- [43:46]
Bobby Bones
Not alone. No, I mean, I have co writes all the time, so like, yeah, it's.
- [43:52]
Unknown
My job, but scheduled writing with others.
- [43:53]
Bobby Bones
But if it's just yourself, I wouldn't do as well. No, it'd be more. When am I like, actually aha. You know, I think by myself it would just feel more. Feel more forced. It's like you need to have this piece of content up at this time, blah, blah, and you need to feel like this in it, you know?
- [44:12]
Unknown
Do you feel the constant pressure to constantly produce content?
- [44:15]
Bobby Bones
You don't understand? Yeah, well, I'm sure you do, but when you're, when you haven't had like big moments yet, like, it's just. This is just a different thing now. You know, it's not all about the just making music anymore. It's about what are you. And believe me, like, I. I do my best to be me as. As I can, but you know, you gotta be very out there. Some of my friends, like the big like Lana fans, they're like, oh my gosh, dude, if Lana had to like come out now with like everything that we do, I don't think she would have wanted to keep at it for long enough to become like a legend, you know, it's just. It's just kind of staying the course. What are you gonna do? I'm always complaining. My manager's like, you just gonna give up, Sam? You gonna give up? Because Your video, you know, it's just a lot bigger than that. But we get bogged down with a lot of his stuff now. That's like. It's just the noise.
- [45:07]
Unknown
Do you feel. I guess there are a couple ways you could feel about this. At times I know that I feel annoyed if I have something I'm really happy with and proud of and a post and it doesn't do anything. And that can be frustrating. It can be very frustrating. Like, I put a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of effort. I'm like, man, I think this should really do well. And it doesn't. That's frustrating.
- [45:24]
Bobby Bones
Hell yeah, it is.
- [45:25]
Unknown
But then there are times where I do the stupidest thing and it's like, I look down, it's got 1.1 million stupid views. And that's cool and all, but I'm like, I really. There's the stuff I want to matter.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [45:34]
Unknown
Matter. Do you. I get frustrated by that.
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Bobby Bones
It's like always the thing that you're looking forward to, that you worked to, to like, announce or like, do, and it's like, yeah, you know, that is definitely frustrating. But I mean, I don't know, it's like, what are you gonna do? I think we, me and my team probably have conversations like this all the time because I want to give people, you know, different worlds of music, different sounds, different looks. You know, I'm real in tune with my fashion and image and what am I saying and how does it, you know, And I think that it's just so damn fast now that, like, a lot of that doesn't even catch up with people. It's just a different time. I think the people that are amazing at it. I'm like, astounded by, like, how do you do this? Like, just never miss a beat. In a way, I've been really proud of Dasha, you know, I mean, Dasha's one song. I knew Dasha a little bit before, you know, before the song, and her whole life is like, you know, craziness now. And it's. And it's. It's running with it, and she's done a really awesome job at it. And I think that a lot of people don't get credit for. When you do get something and you gotta handle your whole life, you know, from there, I don't know, I think.
- [46:54]
Unknown
Where part would be frustrating that it doesn't pop what you just said, there is kind of the hope is that there really isn't like a single gatekeeper anymore. And anything could Pop off at any time, literally. And your life could be changed in three days because something catches and it spreads and then there's the spotlight on you by the people that want to invest in you. And yeah, it really could all change like that. And the only way to actually make a change is to keep working.
- [47:23]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, you know, I probably like everyone else sometimes let the fear and the anything else get in the way of, you know, trying to subscribe to that. I think adding Honky Tonk into my project was like, I'm gonna do something fun and it's my legacy and I'm gonna say stuff that they're gonna be like, why did he even say that? Just because that's just how I am. And you know, that was like a fun thing to add to this. And I have another album coming out after and it's like, yeah, I may not be the best at making TikToks all the time and like trying to make them swaggy or sexy or like so funny. Haha. I'm just not really like that. I don't know. I can't find the time of the day to. I guess I'm busy and it's just a new thing. I kind of feel old, like trying to get it and I'm not. But I do. I know I'm good at the making music and the telling a story and the, you know, making. Taking someone somewhere different when they're listening, you know. So, I mean, I think maybe this will. Maybe this will blow over in a couple years. No, I don't think it is.
- [48:32]
Unknown
Is it still on the fashion?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
- [48:35]
Unknown
Power rank your favorite brands.
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Bobby Bones
Favorite brands?
- [48:38]
Unknown
Yeah, I'll go. I'll match you one for one.
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Bobby Bones
Okay. I mean, I have like cheap favorite brands too. Back in Old Navy again.
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Unknown
But if I were to say you get 5 unlimited for a whole day, what brand do you go to first? It could be any brand and any clothing brand.
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Bobby Bones
I wear a lot of fix clothing. It's in London. These are fix the jeans. Yeah. Probably this shirt too. These are like a Rolling Stones collection. Okay. I'm going to think of right now, today I want like, you one store.
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Unknown
You get to go into any store and have everything you want. Because I, for me, it's probably like Bottega.
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Bobby Bones
Okay.
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Unknown
That's probably my number one.
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Bobby Bones
I don't have anything from there, but I would go to Christian Dior because.
- [49:20]
Unknown
I like the vibe and the resale is crazy.
- [49:23]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [49:24]
Unknown
The saddlebags.
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Bobby Bones
I just, I've always wanted one of those, I've gone in there and looked at one so many times, knowing I was not getting it. Just to recheck it real quick.
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Unknown
Like the dude saddlebags.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah. They're awesome.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, and just the little ones, I just kind of like them. And then I'm gonna. I'm gonna put in a dumb one and say, tractor supply, because there's so much I could get in there and have someone help me put at my.
- [49:47]
Unknown
House, where tractor supplies. Fun is they have everything people do. It's like, if they don't know, they don't know. It's not a tractor store. Tractor supply has everything.
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Bobby Bones
They do.
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Unknown
Yeah. It's like you're going into Kmart. There's a little bit of everything.
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Bobby Bones
And I just like their corny, Southern kind of, like, stuff out there. I'm like, oh, this windmill with a.
- [50:06]
Unknown
Cow Love does have cracker barrel vibes. And part of it.
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Bobby Bones
I'm just in that era of my life. I'm sure one day, if I'm, you know, rich and have something else, I want my house to look like this lion out here.
- [50:17]
Unknown
But for right now, you don't want the line.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Unknown
You get a plastic one. Have to worry about how heavy that thing is.
- [50:23]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I mean, I think I could use some accessories. So I'm going to go Swarovski. I used to like that as a kid.
- [50:30]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
I used to always get, like, a pen, and I was obsessed with my pen.
- [50:33]
Unknown
Like.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. And I'm blanking kind of so much today. But I've never had anything from Marnie.
- [50:45]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So that'd be fun to go look at, I guess.
- [50:48]
Unknown
I got a couple little. I got a couple of these from Marnie.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah?
- [50:51]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
See, I'd want some of those. Those fuzzy ones that I'm never washing. I'm never even. Put them somewhere for someone to get clean. I'm really bad at laundry.
- [51:00]
Unknown
You send them to the dry cleaner, though. That's where I do anything that I'm scared of, like, getting messed up right to the dry cleaner. I take it off right when I get home, hang it right back up because I don't want to have to send it to be cleaned at all because it loses, like, generations of wear.
- [51:12]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [51:12]
Unknown
But then every once in a while, you got to send it in.
- [51:15]
Bobby Bones
I was in a rush here and didn't know what I was going to wear. I was calling somebody, and my son's in the car. My son's in the car. And he was like, okay. And I'd like to wear this old navy blue and white kind of floral jacket with blue and white Versace sneakers. And he had it all together, and he was like, this and this. Are you gonna wear that? And I was like, no, I'm not. I'm sorry. But it is good.
- [51:38]
Unknown
Talk to me for a second about Versace. It's just too loud for me.
- [51:42]
Bobby Bones
Most of stuff from Versace I wouldn't like. But, like, one thing, like, I have, like, sneakers or like, Odyssey that I really love. But if it was, like, print, you know, I think they make more. They make more beautiful, interesting stuff. I think the fashion house is more. It's. It's more women. You know, Versace, men stuff isn't as strong as the. As the women's and the accessories.
- [52:05]
Unknown
I feel like I need to be selling cocaine in Miami. They need to be me if I'm wearing Versace.
- [52:10]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [52:10]
Unknown
If I'm wearing men's Versace, I need to be, like, on a jet boat selling cocaine in my.
- [52:13]
Bobby Bones
Or like 2015. In the Migos, though.
- [52:16]
Unknown
Fair enough. So that too. But I'm not that.
- [52:17]
Sam Williams
Look at me.
- [52:18]
Unknown
I'm the opposite. Well, look, I'm super pumped for you. Why'd you put Honky Tonkin out last, though? Of the. Of all these songs in this project.
- [52:26]
Bobby Bones
Actually, I mean, I made it last.
- [52:28]
Unknown
That makes all the sense.
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Bobby Bones
Then hopefully, you know, it's just be saved the biggest bang for last, I guess. And, you know, I mean, I want to get all my videos done for the project and everything and let people rock with stuff. Putting Country Star out first was definitely, like, I wanted to make it clear this is a new thing and get people to see that it's a, you know, kind of a new world of Music for Act 2 with Country Star First. And I think Honky Tonkin is just, like, the nice bow to it, to me.
- [52:59]
Unknown
Was that the most. Is that. Well, because it hasn't out yet as we're talking about it, but it will be by the time we're talking about it. So I guess I'm talking about in present tense. Like, it's already out. So that's.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [53:09]
Unknown
Are you with me?
- [53:09]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'm there. Yeah.
- [53:10]
Unknown
Yeah. Was this the most excited you were of any of the songs to come out on this project, Act Two?
- [53:16]
Bobby Bones
I am really, really excited about it. I was really excited about Country Star, too, because I was like, yes. Like, I need people to hear this.
- [53:23]
Unknown
We named the whole thing after it.
- [53:24]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just the world of it, but I think that this probably is the most exciting because people love it or hate it, and I already know that. I'm not even looking at the comment stuff yet, but, like, people love it, and they're like, I love this creativity of this kid and, like, doing something brand new with something big that was put on him and doing a good job of it. And some people are going to be like, hiram's rolling in the grave, you know, and that's. That's okay. It's okay. Because I had fun with it. And the people that rock with me, I think that they know it's a. It's a super fun record, I'll tell you that.
- [54:02]
Unknown
I said hello.
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Bobby Bones
All right, I'm going to tell him.
- [54:05]
Unknown
He probably doesn't even remember that day. No, it wasn't like a very eventful day. I mean, it wasn't like both of us left going, what a crazy day that was. I think the virility of that video ended up being bigger to me than I ever expected it, because it wasn't like some crazy moment. I was like, well, that's Hank. He wants to go. All right. He's got a big personality. That's his big personality. That's really how I felt about it.
- [54:28]
Bobby Bones
I mean, I've just been that. I've been around that for 28 years. So, like, I'm just. I don't know. I didn't think anything of it.
- [54:36]
Unknown
Yeah, well, tell him I said hello.
- [54:38]
Bobby Bones
Okay, I sure will.
- [54:39]
Unknown
I've never been less of a fan because of it, and people have asked that, and it gets brought up occasionally because that thing just continues, like, live lives. And I'm like, love them just as.
- [54:46]
Bobby Bones
Much as, hey, Bobby, Bones said, you know, you're welcome. And if. If you can have a cigar, if.
- [54:52]
Unknown
You want one, you can have one anytime you want around me. Have no problem.
- [54:55]
Bobby Bones
Bring your own.
- [54:55]
Unknown
Yes.
- [54:56]
Sam Williams
Yeah.
- [54:57]
Unknown
Sam. Good to meet you, man.
- [54:58]
Bobby Bones
Thank you so much, Bobby. Thank you.
- [54:59]
Unknown
And so I'm not crazy.
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Sam Williams
Your name.
- [55:01]
Unknown
It's a V in Williams, right? And on Instagram. Yeah.
- [55:04]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It's V in place of a yeah.
- [55:07]
Unknown
Why'd you do that?
- [55:09]
Bobby Bones
Honestly, it was a long time ago when I made that account, the account, and it just felt cool to me. And me and my half brother Shelton aren't close. He's not close with a lot. And, you know, I'm. We're the same generation, except he's definitely a generation older than me. But technically, you know, we're both my dad's sons, and I think it meant something like that to me then. But that's just how it is. So if I need to change my Instagram name, have they told you to.
- [55:35]
Unknown
Change the V to the A so people can find you?
- [55:37]
Bobby Bones
I don't care. They should just see my face and be like, oh, that's the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's clearly the guy.
- [55:42]
Unknown
Sometimes that picture's real little though, because.
- [55:44]
Sam Williams
When I was looking up all your.
- [55:45]
Unknown
Stuff, I was like, is this him with a V on it? So then I had to go in.
- [55:48]
Bobby Bones
Why's it got to be in black and white?
- [55:50]
Unknown
Congratulations on the record.
- [55:52]
Bobby Bones
Thank you so much man. Thanks for talking.
- [55:53]
Unknown
If you feel good about it, like, that's the win.
- [55:55]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I mean, you know, I need people to, to rock with me and stream it, but it's about also finding your audience. It wasn't easy for me here to not be the same cut of cloth. That's the, that's the more accepted deal. That's the deal. So you know, it's risky but you know, hopefully worthwhile in the long run.
- [56:17]
Unknown
Sam Williams with a V on Instagram. Sam Williams or the A is so Sam Wivum Will ofums Sam, good to see you buddy.
- [56:27]
Ryan Seacrest
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
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Unknown
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Bobby Bones
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