BOBBYCAST - Sheryl Crow on Meeting the Pope, Touring with Babies & Knowing She Was Ready to Adopt

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bobbycast – Sheryl Crow on Meeting the Pope, Touring with Babies & Knowing She Was Ready to Adopt

Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Sheryl Crow
Date: May 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of the Bobbycast, Bobby Bones sits down with Sheryl Crow, singer-songwriter and nine-time Grammy winner, to discuss profound personal and spiritual topics. The conversation explores Sheryl’s experience of adopting and raising her two sons, her evolving beliefs about faith and parenting, meeting Pope Francis, and reflections on her career and favorite music. Throughout, Sheryl is candid, wise, and warm, offering listeners a blend of philosophy, humor, and musical inspiration.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. On Parenting and Adopting Later in Life

• Adopting as Readiness, Not Age

  • Sheryl shares her journey of adopting her children in her mid-to-late 40s and offers comfort to Bobby, who recently became a father in his 40s.
  • “I got my first kid when I was 45. I got my second kid when I was 48.” – Sheryl Crow (05:03)
  • She believes that children come to you when you’re prepared:
    “I don't believe I Believe your kids pick you. I don't think you ever get the wrong kid.” (07:04)

• Advice for New Parents

  • Sheryl’s primary advice: savor the moments and document memories, because “it goes really fast.” (04:00)
  • She emphasizes the importance of being present and not overanalyzing parenting fears or the past.

• Reflections on Her Own Upbringing and Becoming a Parent

  • Bobby discusses the trauma and difficulties of growing up with young parents, and how becoming a parent made him reassess his resentments with more empathy. (09:11)
  • Sheryl reflects: “I'm just completely in awe of the fact that we ever grow up to be adults. So many things can go wrong.” (09:52)
  • She encourages parents to accept that “we don't have a handbook for how to raise kids… we hope that they don't, like, lock into a moment and that moment becomes the mythology of who they think they are in the universe.” (10:44)

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2. Spirituality, Faith, and Meeting the Pope

• Expansive Views on God and Faith

  • Sheryl describes her spiritual journey from Presbyterian childhood to exploring meditation. She emphasizes the unknowable nature of God and critiques those who claim certitude—especially when used divisively.
    • "We really, from what scientists understand, use about 3% of [the brain]. So for us to try to envision something that is not visual, it's not tangible, is futile... maybe God is energy." (24:47)

• Critique of Religious and Political Leaders

  • Discussion on the problematic fusion of religion and politics.
    • “Never trust a pastor that tells you how to vote or a politician that tells you how to pray.” – Bobby Bones (25:03)
    • Sheryl responds: “That is truth.” (25:23)

• Meeting the Pope

  • Sheryl recounts flying her sons to Rome during midterms for 48 hours to meet Pope Francis:
    • "Someday my kids are going to come back and say thank you that you dragged us during midterm to fly over to Rome for 48 hours to meet the Pope." (02:21, 27:15)
  • The meeting was part of the Vatican Christmas fundraiser; she admired Pope Francis for his alignment with Christ’s original teachings—compassion for immigrants, the hungry, and the poor. (28:13)
  • “[Pope Francis] was holding my hand, and he said, ‘Yes, we all have to work together.’ And I was like, okay, that's very popey, you know, very, very popey.” (29:53)

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3. Navigating the Current Social and Political Climate

• Awareness of Division and Ego

  • Sheryl and Bobby discuss the difficulty of celebrating America’s upcoming 250th anniversary in a time of division.
    • “Now more than ever, I feel the ego of America… It doesn't feel like, worth celebrating at this moment.” (37:02)
  • Sheryl champions kindness and hands-on good, advocating for “leaving the campground nicer than you found it.” (38:23)

• Hope for Cycles of Change

  • Sheryl references "The Fourth Turning" (42:34) and expresses belief in historical cycles, hoping for a future era of enlightenment despite current turmoil.

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4. Touring with Kids and Unique Parenting Experiences

• Practical Challenges of Touring

  • Sheryl describes raising her sons on the road, from Wyatt’s first steps in the green room at Ellen DeGeneres to Levi as a newborn on a tour bus. (13:16)

• Stories of Intuition and Spiritual Connection with her Kids

  • Shares a story about her son, Wyatt, at age three, recalling “memories” of living in Africa in vivid, inexplicable detail. (15:35)
    • “And he told me about all the big bugs, and I’m like, very graphic. And then I said, was Levi there? …he said, but he was older than me. Like I should know that.” (15:41)

• Support System and Knowing She Was Ready to Adopt

  • After a difficult breakup and breast cancer diagnosis, Sheryl found encouragement from her family:
    • “It was kind of that, like the troops kind of gathering around me… when Wyatt was baptized, my whole family stood up there, and I knew I wasn't in it by myself.” (17:00)
  • She views the adoption of her children as evidence of a higher power working beyond organized religion.

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5. Reflections on History, Travel, and Perspective

• Traveling and Historical Perspective
  • Conversation about visiting historic sites in Europe (the Vatican, Coliseum, major cathedrals).
  • Bobby recounts being moved to tears by the age and significance of Austrian churches. (36:19)
  • Sheryl and Bobby bond over growing up near the Arkansas/Missouri/Tennessee border, neither traveling much out of state or country until adulthood. (35:12)

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Music: Lessons, Influences, and Favorites

Influential Albums and Artists

• Stevie Wonder’s Songs in the Key of Life:
  “He went so far deep in spiritually to document what was going on in the world at the time… that is the highest form of inspiration.” (48:00-48:41)
• Fleetwood Mac’s Rumors ("Stevie Nicks"):
  Sheryl idolized Stevie Nicks growing up, later producing music for her. (49:18)
• George Harrison’s All Things Must Pass:
  This album was a “life raft” for Sheryl, especially during times of disappointment with organized religion.
  “The best thing that we can do is to quiet ourselves and not always be praising and asking, but be listening, which is what meditation is… that saved my life.” (49:56-50:55)

Bobby’s Top 10 Favorite Artists (43:15–46:13)

• Includes: Counting Crows, Sheryl Crow, Ben Folds, John Mayer, Weezer, Garth Brooks, Kacey Musgraves, Buddy Holly, Bill Withers, Beastie Boys.
• Humorous aside: Bobby previously signed a record deal as a white rapper named "Captain Caucasian." (46:24)

Sheryl Crow’s Five Favorite Songs (51:17–53:32)

1. My Favorite Mistake – “It’s the only song that, when it comes on the radio, I don’t turn it off.” (51:17)
2. Redemption Day – Written after performing for troops in Bosnia.
3. If It Makes You Happy – “People going, well, she doesn’t even write her own songs. So I was like, oh, really? Let me just…” (52:00)
4. Every Day Is a Winding Road – Inspired by the tragic loss of a close friend in Crowded House.
5. I Shall Believe – Her “faith song”.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Kids Picking Parents:
  “Your kid picked you at this moment. You were ready. …Don’t spend too much time overanalyzing why now… then you miss out on the now.” – Sheryl Crow (07:04)

• On Therapy and Parenting:
  “You have a college fund and you have a therapy fund, and I hope you go to college, but I really hope you go to therapy because… I’ve done a thousand things wrong…” – Sheryl Crow (09:52)

• On Religious Certainty:
  "Never trust a pastor that tells you how to vote or a politician that tells you how to pray." – Bobby Bones (25:03)

• On Meeting the Pope:
  "...[Pope Francis] said, 'Yes, we all have to work together.' And I was like, okay, that's very popey, you know, very, very popey." – Sheryl Crow (29:53)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Parenting Wisdom & Adopting Later – 04:00–08:32
• On Therapy and Family Trauma – 08:32–12:50
• Intuitive Parenting and Spiritual Kids – 13:14–16:55
• Cancer, Breakup, and the Journey to Adoption – 17:00–19:39
• Spiritual Discussion & Defining God – 21:39–26:44
• Meeting the Pope & Reflections on His Teachings – 27:04–31:36
• Travel, History, and Perspective – 32:22–37:02
• America, Division, and Leaving the World Better – 37:02–40:44
• Musical Influences and Top Songs – 47:00–53:32

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Closing Thoughts

Sheryl Crow’s episode on the Bobbycast is rich with vulnerable storytelling, humor, and wisdom. She and Bobby share honest reflections on the challenges of parenting, the complexities of faith, and the lessons found in adversity. Sheryl’s openness about her family, spiritual journey, and musical inspirations gives listeners rare insight into her artistry and worldview. The conversation is at once deeply personal and universally relatable—equal parts heartening, thought-provoking, and inspiring.

Transcript

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[Sheryl Crow]

Someday my kids are going to come back and say thank you that you dragged us during midterm to fly over to Rome for 48 hours to meet the Pope.

[Bobby Bones]

Today's guest is a true music icon, one of my favorites ever it is Sheryl Crow, nine time Grammy winner, Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductee. She has so Many awesome songs before becoming a superstar. She toured as a backup singer for Michael Jackson on his bad tour way back in the day. And across more than three decades, she sold over 35 million albums. Also becoming an advocate for cancer research, hunger relief, education. She is still touring. Go watch her. Go to SherylCrow.com or to her socials. Go to shows as we talk about. She still plays all the hits and she has a ton of them still making music. And we're going to talk now. Here is my conversation with one of my favorite artists of all time and one of my favorite people of all time, Sheryl Crow. Cheryl, Great to see you.

[Sheryl Crow]

Good to see you.

[Bobby Bones]

I always love seeing you. I think the last time we saw each other was. Can you name it?

[Sheryl Crow]

Well, was that your house?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Since then.

[Sheryl Crow]

Oh, where were we exactly? Exactly. Well, we were in it.

[Bobby Bones]

This is not one of those where I'm gotcha and you. Because it'd be hilarious if you remembered. Because it wasn't like a formal setting.

[Sheryl Crow]

It was a. Yeah. Where was it? At a restaurant?

[Bobby Bones]

It was in a parking lot.

[Sheryl Crow]

It was in a parking lot at the mall. That's right. Oh, my God. That's right. Oh, my God. That is right.

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I was walking in Green Hills Mall.

[Bobby Bones]

That's right, Bobby. And I was like, oh, no. Oh, Cheryl. Okay.

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[Bobby Bones]

Yes, Yes.

[Sheryl Crow]

I remember exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

It's great to see you.

[Sheryl Crow]

It's good to see you, too. And you're a new dad and I love that.

[Bobby Bones]

I am.

[Sheryl Crow]

I'm an old mom and I love that, too. But I'm just gonna give you one little piece of advice. It goes really fast.

[Bobby Bones]

People say that to me.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah. Write everything down. Like there's certain little things both my boys love hearing about. Funny things they said when they were little. And you'll forget them. You'll think, I'm never gonna forget this. And then as time goes on, you will write em down because they will

[Bobby Bones]

love knowing that it feels now that everything's going really slow. I know you say it flies by

[Sheryl Crow]

because you're not getting much sleep.

[Bobby Bones]

It feels like our baby is barely over a month old. Five weeks or so. And it's crazy because I'm still in that stage of. Cause I'm gonna end up being like a literal old dad because I didn't have a kid until I was in my 40s. Right. Which is weird because my mom got pregnant at 15 with me and my mom was just my mom. But thinking back, like, that's so young. Our ages were so close to each Other. And I just feel like I'm gonna be 100 years old having to meet other dads that are all like 28.

[Sheryl Crow]

Okay. I got my second kid when I was 45. Nope. I got my first kid when I was 45. I got my second kid when I was 48.

[Bobby Bones]

And did you feel that way with other parents?

[Sheryl Crow]

I didn't. I've always felt young, and I live in a. I have a line of work that makes that tricks me into thinking I'm very young. That being said, I've always been in really good shape, so. I mean, trampoline every night, you know, to me, age was not a factor. The beautiful thing for me, and maybe it will be this way for you, is that there was nothing that came along that I ever felt like I was going to miss out on. Like, all my decisions were so easy based on, like, I don't want to miss anything with my kids. You know, I've been at like every baseball game. I've been. You know, I just don't. There's not one thing. I feel like I hate missing that, but I really should be at my kid's game. There's just nothing.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, I was talking to my therapist two days ago because I have a bit struggled with. I don't want to be so old, and I don't feel like that's the case because I also am in an industry that I'm. It's young and I've always been the youngest at what I do. I'm just now like, catching up and starting to feel like, oh, I'm just normal in my age because I was always like the really young person doing. But I think, though, if I could redo it, I don't think I would. One, I wouldn't have the same wife. Well, she'd have been like 7 years old. So that have been weird.

[Sheryl Crow]

And you'd have been in jail.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that would have been bad.

[Sheryl Crow]

And that would have been a problem.

[Bobby Bones]

But also, I was so scared of raising a kid and not having money. Like, I was raised because we were very, very poor. And I was. My whole life I was like, I can't have a kid because I can't grow up and have a poor. A kid that didn't have access to food. I didn't go to the dentist in my twenties and so I would not do it any different. Yeah, but that has been a concern of mine. But you're rocking it, I have to say.

[Sheryl Crow]

You know, I have my own belief system. I don't believe I Believe your kids pick you. I don't think you ever get the wrong kid. I know that sounds really woo woo. But your kid picked you at this moment. You were ready. And you don't want to spend too much time overanalyzing why now am I going to be this, Am I going to be that? Because then you miss out on the now. And I mean, I literally sound like a self help book. But it took me forever to, to get to the place where I was like, open, armed and just like, okay, I may not get to be a mom. I've loved a lot of amazing people and I've loved some other people too. And that was where I got off. And at which point I was like, okay, God, I'm just gonna like get in the boat. I'm gonna start rowing. If you meet me halfway with a baby, great. If you don't. And lo and behold, the two boys that I have could not be more brotherish, could not be more of a crow, and it could not have picked me at a more. I mean, I was ready and I was awake and aware and I wanted them. And I'm sure you're the same place. You're like, I want my daughter. Now, when you're in your 20s, do you really want to raise a human being? I don't know. I don't know if I could have. I don't know if I would have wanted to even.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think I. And I still struggle with knowing myself fully, but I definitely did not know who I was at 20. I was all trauma at 20. I'm just now figuring out I was all trauma at 20. Like survival, running as hard as I possibly could, thinking I was running to just like be the best. But really I was just running away from all trauma. So I think there are a lot of benefits to having. I think it's awesome. But it's weird. It's made me like, re. Like rethink things. I was very resentful toward my parents, but again, they were teenage parents.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So mom got pregnant 15. My biological dad was 17 and my dad left when I was like 5. I don't know him. And my mom struggled and left and I was adopted and came back and all this. But then I think, man, they were teenagers. What do I. There were teenagers with no money. What do I like, what should I expect of teenagers with no money? And I would be resentful towards them. But then I think they were together for a couple of years. They kept a baby alive for two, three years. That's crazy because it's hard to keep a baby alive, and we have all the resources. And to think of those two teenagers keeping me alive. My heart's a little grateful for that. It never was until I had a baby.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah. And I'll tell you what, the older they get, actually, the older I am, I'm just completely in awe of the fact that we ever grow up to be adults. So many things can go wrong, you know? I don't know. I mean, I think I tell my kids this all the time. I'm like, you have a college fund and you have a therapy fund, and I hope you go to college, but I really hope you go to therapy because. And I tell them all the time, I've done a thousand things wrong and I've done things that I haven't known were wrong. That you will sit in a chair someday and need somebody to help you walk through the mythology of what I did that you felt like was to you. Because we're humans, you know? And like my older one, Wyatt, when he was little, he would say, are you mad? Are you mad at me? And literally, I could be just, like, reading, you know, and my face makes that resting bitch face or whatever, and he would take it on and think it was him. Now, when I was a kid, I got the same look a lot, but never had the freedom to ask my mom or dad, did I do something wrong? So you carry that stuff around with you, you know? And at a certain point, I think when you do get into therapy, you start understanding they do the best they can. They were people, and that's where they got off. My dad's always like, this world would be a great place if it wasn't for people. And that kind of is the reality, is that we're. We don't have a handbook for how to raise kids. We do the best we can, and we hope that they don't, like, lock into a moment and that moment becomes the mythology of who they think they are in the universe. But that's the reality. That's what they do.

[Bobby Bones]

It's funny that stuff matters to me now because my wife and I, last night were talking, and we have a brief period each night when the baby's asleep. That. And I have two therapists, one for me, one for us, because we go. And it was our first time to go us together. And we don't have childcare yet because the baby's like an inchworm. So it's not like we're not gonna give it to a nanny. So we took it with us to therapy. And so the baby's great, and we're in therapy and we leave and she's sleeping when we get home. And my wife was talking about how amazing it is, and it is. And she was just making a joke about how we're gonna give the baby everything. And I'm like, we're not giving the baby anything. This baby's gonna start earning its keep immediately. And she's like, no, we're gonna give it everything. Don't you want that? I said, no. I said, I don't want that. I said, I want to hopefully find a compromise type place. I said, but it doesn't matter what we do. The baby's gonna be in therapy anyway. Hopefully. And she's like, if we give it everything. I said, it'll especially be in therapy if we give it everything. Going well, I never had to work for anything, and here I am. So I just don't. And I'm very new at this. I just don't feel like there's a right when it comes to parenting.

[Sheryl Crow]

I don't know, Bobbi. I mean, the fact that you care and that you're so aware of it, you're ahead, you're totally ahead of the game.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm neurotic everywhere, though. This is no different than.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah, but I'm telling you what, the older she gets, the more you're gonna realize, oh, she picked me. She knew what she was getting. She knew. I mean, I could tell you crazy stories about why I know this.

[Bobby Bones]

Give me one.

[Sheryl Crow]

Well, I'll give you two. So years and years ago, when I had a four year old and a one year old, and we're traveling on a tour bus, and Wyatt's taken his first steps in the green room at Ellen DeGeneres, and Levi started out his life at two weeks old in a crib on a tour bus, I mean, all these things, I start feeling like, am I. Is this fair to my kids? Is this normal? You know, and so I go to my acupuncturist in New York. Really wonderful person, is very intuitive. Like, you'd never say psychic to him. He's like, psychic. That's bullshit. You know, we all are intuitive. It just depends on how much you want to know. But I said, you know, I voiced this concern. And he said, well, I'll tell you, Wyatt came in for you, and Levi came in for Wyatt. And as matter of factly as it could be, right? So as the years went on, it's played out exactly that way. I Mean, Wyatt I've known all of my lives, if there is such thing. And Levi, I've gotten to know him every single day of his life, every minute of his life. I get to know him more and more. But when Wyatt was three and Levi was just a couple of weeks old, he was sitting on the floor and he was thumbing through a book, which he was very hyper focused on books and pictures and things. And just as an aside, I have this elephant necklace which I've always worn, and instead of him saying elephant when he was little, he would always say Africa, which I thought, well, that's very strange. Anyway, he's sitting on the floor, I'm giving Levi bottle, and he's thumbing this book. And he says, oh, this reminds me of Africa. And I said, well, what are you looking at? And he just was quiet. And I said, what reminds you of Africa? And he goes, just looks. Reminds me of Africa. And I said, well, what about Africa? And he said. I said, what do you know about Africa? He said, well, we used to live there, just like matter of factly. And I said, what was it like? And he said, we had dirt floors and we had grass on the roof.

[Bobby Bones]

He's three, and he probably hadn't seen dirt floors and grass on roofs of anything to really pull that in.

[Sheryl Crow]

Well, then he starts telling me about how he had to walk for miles to get water, and it was really long walk with no shoes. And he told me about all the big bugs, and I'm like, very graphic. And then I said, was Levi there? And he looked at me like I had three heads. And he's like, yeah. And he said, but he was older than me. Like I should know that. And then I'm taking it all in, and I said, well, tell me more about Africa. And he's like, I don't want to talk about Africa anymore. Never talked about it again. So, I don't know. I like knowing that I don't know everything. You know, I'm making my peace with as a control freak and as somebody who's like, total people pleaser, I'm in control of everything. And. And I love. And this is one of the great lessons, and I guarantee you that Billy will be the best teacher you ever had. I, like, I'm comfortable now not knowing everything or not knowing anything, you know?

[Bobby Bones]

Did you want to have two kids?

[Sheryl Crow]

I didn't know. I mean, I'll be honest with you. I was engaged. I had three beautiful stepchildren. I wanted to have kids with this person. We split in the same week that we split, I got diagnosed with breast cancer. And I found out he was seeing a really famous actress. And I really felt like I went through about, I guess, nine months of radiation and grieving and anger. And I had a really stoic oncologist who literally looked like my grandmother. And I thought, you know, not a warm and fuzzy person at all. But one of the things that she said to me was, I mean, I fully expected her to light a cigarette. That's how her demeanor was, you know, look, just don't miss out on the lessons, you know? And she literally said, just don't. She's like, I've had a thousand women come through with breast cancer. Don't miss out on the lesson. And I realized that having gone through all that, I am a caretaker. I'm the last person I take care of. I take care of everybody's emotions. I make sure everybody's good with me. I'm like, shucking and jiving all through life. And I think it took that my life screeching to a halt to get to a place to go. Okay, who am I and why am I doing what I'm doing? Do I love what I'm doing? What am I supposed to be doing? Do I want to be a mom? And I was talking to my mom about it, and I said I thought I would be a mom. And she's like, this is like, small town lady, right? Grew up in the church, the whole thing. She's like, well, you could get a sperm donor and you could just do it on your own. And I'm like, bernice Crow just told me to get a sperm donor. But it was kind of that, like the troops kind of gathering around me, saying, look, we're here. You adopt. We'll help you. And when Wyatt was baptized, my whole family stood up there, and I knew I wasn't in it by myself. And I literally had the way he came to me through the channels that he came to me. I just was like, there is a God that's so much bigger than what we, you know, it's a God that doesn't. Can't be confined to a religion, a church, a movement. It's something so much bigger than our pea brains can imagine when you're talking about the souls of people. But I got the right kid, and he has been an unbelievable teacher for me.

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[Bobby Bones]

I always think when people try to define God that it's tough to define something. You by definition can have no understanding of the depth. And I find that it's even for people to tell me about it or tell me why I'm right or wrong. Mostly wrong about it.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Especially now you're trying to tell me what God is when we're just organic matter. You think our brains have any concept of what is actually greater than us? Our brains only allow us to know what we've read and what we've been taught, what we can envision by other people who have envisioned it, read it, been taught it. And so I think I've struggled with people trying to tell me. I grew up very religious, very, very in the Baptist church, was president of the fca, which Fellowship Christian athletes, which was all of that. And AT probably not as healthy of a relationship then as I do now, but it's not the same at all. Yeah, I don't know.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah, we cannot know.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think that's what God is.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah. I mean there's so many. I know I'm analytical. I'm also, and I'm sure, in fact, I'm very certain that you're like me, you're very curious. And so you ask a lot of questions and you do the deep dives and like for me, and I've been through lots of different religious incarnations. I was raised Presbyterian, which was basically, be nice, we don't care if you play cards, you can drink, pay your 10%, show up, do your community work, work in the church, you know, very like, not evangelical. Satan was just like a thing in a book and pretty easygoing. And then I went through the born again thing and I mean, and then I came out of that and was just like, holy freaking shirtballs, what's happening here? And then I got into meditation. And I think if you know anything about the brain, we really, from what scientists understand, use about 3% of it. So for us to try to envision something that is not visual, it's not tangible, is futile. You know, the only thing that we can experience is if we sit in nature and feel the minuscule ness of us and the fact that everything that keeps us alive metaphysically is what keeps a tree alive and what keeps the mushrooms underneath the trees. And it's all energy. That's all it is. And maybe God is energy. Wyatt, who's like super science kid, he goes to private school that's Christian based and the whole creationism and stuff, he's like, well, if, if we were like second grade, if we were like in made in God's image, then that makes God an eight. But I'm like, maybe, I mean, we can't say what God is. You know, maybe God's just a spirit. We don't. Maybe God is space. Maybe. But it's as of late in this portion of my life, listening to people who feel like they know so much and they use it against other people, I find that really concerning.

[Bobby Bones]

One of my favorite things that I've heard people say in the past couple of years is never trust a pastor that tells you how to vote or a politician that tells you how to pray. Ooh, I think about that almost daily at this point because I think I'm

[Sheryl Crow]

going to steal that.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, that's true. I wish I made it up. But yeah, I think about it all the time.

[Sheryl Crow]

That is truth.

[Bobby Bones]

If I see a pastor telling people how to vote politically, that really turns me off.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah. And I guess social media is a really hard place to navigate because as soon as you click on something like that, Like, I saw a minister who was saying that if you do not, if you are not a Republican, then you should just get out. Just get out. And I watched it and thought, is this really happening? And the pastor, who's got so many followers, who said so many awful things about racist comments and comments about women not having the right, shouldn't have the right to vote, but should only bear arms. And I mean, should only bear children, not bear arms, but that's for the husband. It's. You know, it does make raising kids simpler in the fact that there are only a couple of things our kids need to know, and that is to be a good person to look around. I tell my kids this all the time. Your job is to look around and say, where can I help somebody? And you should do it every day. Because when you bless somebody, it's really your blessing. You get blessed. And there's no better feeling than stopping and giving somebody money or asking somebody if you can help them.

[Bobby Bones]

That's the teachings of Christ. What you're saying right there, that's literally

[Sheryl Crow]

the teachings of Christ.

[Bobby Bones]

That's it?

[Sheryl Crow]

Yes. That's all you need to know. If you want to quote scripture at me, then I'm going to hit the restroom, and then I might go out to the parking lot for a smoke. And when you come back and you're done with your scripture, great. But those are the only things I need to know right there.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, I saw a picture of you and your kids with the Pope. That was an awesome picture.

[Sheryl Crow]

I love him.

[Bobby Bones]

That was. Yeah, Leo's awesome.

[Sheryl Crow]

I have to tell you. And I cannot wait until you make your daughter mad.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that's a weird thing to not wait for. I'm curious to know why.

[Sheryl Crow]

Because when she gets to be a teenager and you go, okay, this is an opportunity that someday you will thank me for, you will not believe the eye rolling you will get from your teenager. And I know someday my kids are going to come back and say thank you that you dragged us during midterms during our review week to fly over to Rome for 48 hours to meet the Pope. I'm waiting until they come back and say thank you for doing that. But to me, if you in this climate want to talk about holy teaching or teaching that is aligned with Christ, especially if you're going to a Christian school, then just listen to what he's only teaching the teachings of Christ. Take care of immigrants, take care of the stranger, feed the hungry, help the poor. That's it. But I will tell you something. Really funny. I fly my kids over there.

[Bobby Bones]

How did you even get the opportunity?

[Sheryl Crow]

Okay, so this is random. You get asked, I'm sure you do too. You get asked to do some kind of obscure things and you weigh it and you go, I've never even heard of that. Why would I do that? I got invited to do the Vatican Christmas. And it's a great big fundraiser that they do every year, sponsored by an organization that works with the Vatican. It's completely charitable. This one, I think was helping with schools in Africa, as I recall. Maybe Ethiopia, I think it was. And I was the only American on it. Didn't know anybody else. They were all like very big stars from other countries. And I said, yeah, I'll do that. Because I get to meet the Pope and I love this Pope and I want my children to meet this Pope. I want my kids who are really going through it. When there is a mindset of Christian influencers and then there's Christians, and they're asking a lot of hard questions, I was like, this is important to me, and hopefully someday it'll be important to them. So we go over. My son is waiting to hear if he's gonna get into the colle that he wants to get into. And I was like, dude, you're going to meet the Pope. Just ask him to put in a good word with the guy upstairs. And we got back to the hotel right after meeting the Pope and he opened his computer and he got in. So I was like, see, that's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Whenever he's coming down and you actually see the Pope, I just think there's only been a few, even celebrities I've met where I've been like, I'm jaded. I'm sure you are too, in a good way and a bad way. Always people are, it's the Pope. It's the position.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

When you see him, is that a pretty cool moment?

[Sheryl Crow]

It is. I mean, you know, I guess as an American, you think you're gonna be like, hey, how about the White Sox? You know, and you're high fiving and all that stuff. And he is very, very. He's very reserved. Like, we didn't really know what to expect. You know, were we gonna talk about barbecue and Chicago and all that stuff? And I, when I met him, I didn't want to monopolize his time. There was like a long line of people and I had. And I just said, you know, how much it meant to me that he was really spreading the teachings of Christ. Because for me, no matter what your Belief system is those teachings are teachings that should be, to me, you know, mimicked by all of us. And what he said. And I said, it really matters to me, especially now with what's happening in our country. And he said, yes. He was holding my hand, and he said, yes, we all have to work together. And I was like, okay, that's very popey, you know, Very, very popey. And then I introduced my sons, and he was very. You know, But I mean, it's gotta be a. It's gotta be a hard job, you know, it's like any other job, because you're so highly scrutinized. But he was lovely. His. His demeanor was very, very peaceful. I know the last Pope was much more jovial and outgoing, although he didn't speak any English. You know, he was just very. And this Pope is much more sort of observant. And, I don't know, I just. I have a lot of respect for him by virtue of the fact that I just feel like he's just saying exactly what Christ said, you know?

[Bobby Bones]

My wife and I went to Italy. I think it was the first time we ever went a few years ago. And so obviously, I'd never been to the Vatican. And we had booked this trip to go, and we got a guide to take us. And I got Covid.

[Sheryl Crow]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

And so she went, you gotta go back. I know.

[Sheryl Crow]

You know, it's really funny. I took my kids in last summer. I took them to Rome.

[Bobby Bones]

I got Covid while I was there.

[Sheryl Crow]

You got Covid while you were there?

[Bobby Bones]

I got Covid. I got Covid.

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Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Staying in Rome.

[Sheryl Crow]

But wait, did you see? Did you. So you didn't tour? You were just stuck in the hotel?

[Bobby Bones]

You were stuck in the hotel, like, yeah. And she was like, yeah, she didn't go to Italy without me. We were already in Italy, right?

[Sheryl Crow]

And then she went into it.

[Bobby Bones]

I got Covid. And I was like, you still have to go.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah, well, you have to go back, though.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Sheryl Crow]

She went, yeah, you have to go back and do the tour. I mean, it's.

[Bobby Bones]

She said it was amazing.

[Sheryl Crow]

It's amazing. I mean, when we went, it was very crowded, and the kids, the boys were like, why are you making us do this? But they won't forget it. But the thing I think was really interesting is taking them to the Coliseum.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, crazy.

[Sheryl Crow]

Because you go, okay, boys, as bad as you think it is, nobody's piling into a stadium to watch people get eaten by a tiger or stabbed to death. You know, we have come at least a Little ways, you know, I mean, just to be in a place that's older than your own country, you know, especially as a teenager. Cause there are only so many awe moments you're gonna have as a teenager because you're so self aware and so like, what am I missing? You know, where's my phone? And they were, they were kind of blown away.

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[Bobby Bones]

I love a guide. We had a guide take us to. Yeah, the Coliseum as well.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, they don't. There's not a floor. It's basically underneath where the floor was. You can see how advanced it was.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And how they would get room to room and they had elevators and lifts. But when again, I will nerd out with a guide. It doesn't matter where we are.

[Sheryl Crow]

I know. I love a guide too. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so just to hear the stories of. There were a couple different ways that people fought. Either there were basically prisoners that would fight and. Or people that had no money and it was their only way. And if you got a certain amount of wins, it's very much like Gladiator, the movie. And if you could win a certain amount, then you would be almost elevated as a citizen and you would have money for your family. So it was either people who got in trouble and were in jail or people that just wanted a better life for their families. And they were the ones down fighting in the Coliseum.

[Sheryl Crow]

Can you even. And the people were like, you know, we want them to live and fight again. Or I mean, and how it would last, like days. And the rich people would be at the very top and the women would be, you know, women weren't allowed to hang out with them. It's just history's crazy because you're right.

[Bobby Bones]

This country has not been around long.

[Sheryl Crow]

It has not been around long.

[Bobby Bones]

I remember I was in Philadelphia and I was, I don't know, doing something up there for work. And we went and looked at the Rocky Statue and then saw the Liberty Bell. But then we went over and it was like Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence. And it was like, you know, 17. But it was right next to a 7 11. There's 711 built like right next to the house. But it.

[Sheryl Crow]

That.

[Bobby Bones]

So that, that was weird. And then two, just a couple 250 years, we're about, I mean, we're hitting that. But that's nothing. First time I went to London, I never went anywhere as a kid. So Arkansas, that's about it.

[Sheryl Crow]

Where'd you grow up in Arkansas?

[Bobby Bones]

Central, like Hot Springs, Little Rock, that area. So I grew up.

[Sheryl Crow]

I grew up like. Like three miles from the Arkansas border.

[Bobby Bones]

Missouri. Right.

[Sheryl Crow]

And about eight miles from Tennessee. So. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So. And we spent a lot of time in Fayetteville now, and that's where University of Arkansas was.

[Sheryl Crow]

So my orthodontist was in Jonesboro.

[Bobby Bones]

That's the right side. Listen, I've been everywhere in Arkansas. I didn't. Big state.

[Sheryl Crow]

The movie theater was in Blytheville.

[Bobby Bones]

I went to Blytheville a lot. They had the boat. They made the boats in Blytheville. Like the tracker. They had a. I forget what boat company it was, but I'd never been out of Arkansas much until I got a little older. Then I left the state a little bit, but I never left the country until I started.

[Sheryl Crow]

I mean, I'm older than you, but, I mean, people didn't get on planes. I mean, hardly ever. I mean, we were middle class, so I probably was better off than what you were, from what I understand. But we still didn't. I mean.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, first I went to London. I was blown away.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

At the age of stuff.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Just that alone, there'd be a building from the 1300s.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not a crier for the most part, and it's not a masculinity thing. It's a vulnerability thing. So. Growing up, I felt like I could never cry because I couldn't be vulnerable. So I'm naturally inclined to not cry. I don't fight it anymore, but mostly I just lock up and don't. There have been a couple times, but we went into this massive church in Austria, and it was. It was like. Like 1200. And, like, for some reason, I just started crying. And I think it was because that had just mattered for so much longer than anything I'd ever been around. Like, it had mattered to people.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

For so long.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And that made me emotional.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you're right. We're here. We're. We're 250 years in. They're hundreds and hundreds. It's wild.

[Sheryl Crow]

I know. And, you know, I think now more than ever, I feel the ego of America. You know, we've listened to so long about how we are the exceptional country, and watching what's happening now, I feel like we're all getting very desensitized to the ego aspect of our country. And, you know, coming in and demolishing and all in the name of making it better for other people. And I think it's just. It's gonna be an Interesting time when we come through these next couple of years to see where we land. You know, especially we're getting ready to celebrate 250 years, which does not feel to me. It doesn't feel. And this sounds awful. It doesn't feel like, worth celebrating at this moment. Like, I'd like to celebrate what we really stand for, but I don't see that happening next year. I feel like it's going to be a huge celebration of ego and who we've conquered and how rich we are. And, you know, all. All the things that seem that right now are masking what's really happening in this country. And that. That bums me out.

[Bobby Bones]

It's hard to celebrate and be joyous when there's so much division and vitriol.

[Sheryl Crow]

And it's been sown right in front of us. You know, it's been. You know, I've had lots of conversations with even people in my own family about, well, Biden this, well, Obama this, Will even Bush this or Reagan this or whatever. And I don't remember a time when anybody who was supposedly the leader of all of us would say that some of us were the enemy. And it really has seeped into the national conversation. It seeped into our families at the dinner table. It's an incredibly effective tact to keep us at each other's throats. And it's. It's been disheartening, I think. You know, one of the things for me that's been helpful is being quiet. And I've limited my surfing on Instagram and all that stuff to, like, 10 minutes a day because it really does do damage to the spirit. But what we are, we are spirits. It's like what you said. We are souls. We come, we're here for a minute. You either leave the campground nicer than you found it or you don't. I was raised to leave it nicer. I'm that obnoxious person that walks around the beach with a plastic bag and fills it with crap. My kids are like, why do you have to be that person? But all you can do is model to other people. It's okay to actually be a good, nice person and to not hate and to not listen and to not join and just try to look around and go, where can I help somebody? Because, I mean, literally, I'm 64, I'm counting my summers, and I don't feel that. But we're not here very long. I mean, we are literally not here very long to waste it for one second buying into that kind of Hate coming from a pastor or from a president or from anybody is just not worth it.

[Bobby Bones]

My hope is that this is part of a cycle that has happened many times over. And it's just, it's happened so many times just like this and just like every other time we've gotten out of it. And by we, I mean the human race.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because this feels to me, and it's probably because I'm the most aware though now like the worst that's ever been in my life.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But, you know, I was an adult. I wasn't an adult in 1969. I wasn't an adult in Mongolia when there are all these eras and times or during the crusades or. All those times seem to be pretty rough.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I just think surely we've gotten through this as humans many times over because, man, I don't want to be at the end.

[Sheryl Crow]

Well, okay, so that whole end thing. I know. I mean, I don't want to get started on the whole biblical thing.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I think just environmentally too.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yes, I agree. I agree. I would say that because. And this is totally just my take on it, there was a great book that came out about 20 years ago that I read called the Fourth Turning. And it basically documented through history like the 20 year cycles of, you know, coming out of World War II, you know, the war created a lot of jobs. And then out of that we went into, you know, the 50s where women were in the kitchen and their role was to make dinner. And then there became like this. Wait a minute, why would I, you know, social unrest, asking questions. We entered into the 60s. The 60s was, you know, like the 20 year cycles. And what begot what. And what changed from these monumental moments in history? Well, so now our monumental moments are. They're worldwide. Because technology, it's not like neighborhood, it's not like community. This is happening everywhere. But the outcome of that will also be something huge. And maybe it is a moment of enlightenment. You know, maybe it is a. We have a moment where, and I'm starting to see it now, where people are asking questions about how long have we been living with corrupt, with our lives being manipulated by the powerful who have all the money, who have all the power.

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[Bobby Bones]

Two things. One, I did an interview, okay. And they had me list my top 10 favorite artists of all time. And it was in no order. You're one of my top 10 favorite artists of all time.

[Sheryl Crow]

I'm One of yours. You're kidding me.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not making that up either. Yeah.

[Sheryl Crow]

So thank you. That is. Okay. I have to tell you, I'm going through the mall the other day on a Sunday looking like crap, which I never put on makeup. I'm walking with my 15 year old. An older couple walks by and he said. He heard him say, I think that's Sheryl Crow. And he said, mom, did you hear that? And I said, no. And he goes, I think they thought that was you. And I was like, oh, really? And I could see him thinking. And he's like. So when you were like. When you were like, really happening, were you like. Were you like the Taylor Swift? I was like, oh, my God. I was like, so much bigger than her. It's just funny, you know?

[Bobby Bones]

They have no idea.

[Sheryl Crow]

Thank you. I'm very touched. That's very cool.

[Bobby Bones]

So I knew you were coming in and so in no order. You were high up there, though. County Crows.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yep. I love them. We came up the same time you did. Yeah, Yeah.

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I.

[Bobby Bones]

It's my favorite band ever. And now I really don't always believe now in the don't meet your heroes type thing, because who knows? People are just people. Heck, your hero could just be sick with the day you meet him. And it's a bad experience. Okay. With the odd.

[Sheryl Crow]

Have you met Adam?

[Bobby Bones]

So, yes, I met Adam, but I didn't want to because I not heard that he was mean, but he just was like, completely disconnected and like, did.

[Sheryl Crow]

Oh, interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's just. I'd heard a couple times.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I was like, you know what? I'm an adult. I don't. I can separate.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Unless it's like, R. Kelly. I can separate art and artist. And so I had him just into the studio and I was like, hey, man, I'm a massive fan. And he goes, you were gonna come and. Come to a meet and greet? And I said, yeah. I backed out. He said, why? I said, cause I don't wanna meet you. Cause I don't wanna not like you. Cause you're my favorite. And he goes, totally get it. And now at this point, he's awesome. Like, he's.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah, he is. I love him. I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, we dm. He comes to town, he's been there.

[Sheryl Crow]

He's a good dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Sheryl Crow]

I mean, he's eccentric. And that's what you want him to be. I mean, that face, that hair, that voice, those. I mean, you want him to not just be like, you know, normal people make normal art.

[Bobby Bones]

I Don't want somebody normal.

[Sheryl Crow]

I know. He's exactly what you want him to be.

[Bobby Bones]

Ben Folds, John Mayer.

[Sheryl Crow]

Love John.

[Bobby Bones]

Sheryl Crow, Weezer, Garth Brooks, Kacey Musgraves, Buddy Holly, Bill Withers, Beastie Boys.

[Sheryl Crow]

Oh, my Gosh, that's my 10. That's amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

Eclectic, except not really. I had Napster.

[Sheryl Crow]

Still, though. I mean, that's a great list. I love that you had BC Boys.

[AT&T Business Advertiser]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, they're. Well, I'm from Arkansas, so we didn't have anybody Jewish. So I was like, those white kids are rapping. I was like, that's crazy.

[Sheryl Crow]

That's hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

And so you don't know this about me, but when I was, like, in my mid-20s, I'd signed a record deal as a white rapper, very briefly, and Beastie Boys, they were like. That was like my group. It was awesome. My name was Captain Caucasian. You might have heard my stuff.

[Sheryl Crow]

Oh, my God.

[Bobby Bones]

You hadn't heard my stuff.

[Sheryl Crow]

That's right. I have not. But on occasion, I will just play Namaste around my house.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, raging idiots.

[Sheryl Crow]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you very much. So we have people bring in music that matters the most to them, and it's kind of somebody that we want to shine a lot on. Shining a light on somebody else.

[Sheryl Crow]

You asked me to bring in one, and I couldn't.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, then walk me through what you have.

[Sheryl Crow]

Okay, well, I'm bringing in ones. And actually they meant something to me when they came out, but now they mean more to me, which is really weird, but. Songs in the Key of Life. When I was a kid, this album came out.

[Bobby Bones]

Hold it up for the camera here. We gotta let the Netflix people sing.

[Sheryl Crow]

Songs in the Key of Life. It was a double album. It was Stevie Wonder, I'm a piano player, I can play by ear. And that was. This album made me feel like. I don't know. I mean, this is gonna sound really weird, and I hope nobody is offended by it, but when I was young, I would go into our living room, I'd turn all the lights off, and I would learn his music. I'd learned love's in need of love today. And I would play it with my eyes closed to see what it felt like to be gifted like he was. Now, I was never gifted like he was, obviously. And thankfully, I'm not blind. But, I mean, he. I just feel like this album in particular, he went so far deep in spiritually to document what was going on in the world at the time. And if you can imagine doing that and being blind, As a black man during the civil rights movement, to not be able to actually witness it visually, but to be able to bring it to music and document it, I still believe that that is the highest form of inspiration. And that artist who, like him, sat themselves down and gave over to it and let us have it is one of the highest blessings there is.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a gift.

[Sheryl Crow]

It is truly a gift.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we were given a gift.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yes, we were given a gift. That's exactly right. And every time I hear this stuff, like, I went out and ran the other day, and I was like, what do I want to hear? And I put on this album, which I'll do every five years, and I run hard, I cry. I. I am just in. I'm awestruck that anybody could do that, could just go that far in and write these songs. Anyway, so that's that. Stevie Nicks Rumors. This record, for me, made me understand.

[Bobby Bones]

It's funny you say Stevie Nicks Rumors.

[Sheryl Crow]

I know, I know. I love the whole album, but for her, listen, when I was, like, in eighth grade, that was my hair. I started wearing, like, the shawls, you know, I sang and do the curling iron, and that's how weird life is. Many years later, I got to produce her, and I told her that I was like, I wanted to be you. I wanted to be you. But she, you know, she was like country. She was like. I don't know. She loved country music so much. Anyway. And then All Things Must Pass, which is one of the greatest albums that was ever made. George Harrison, for the Last Listening and

[Bobby Bones]

not watching this past.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yes. As somebody who has gone through a lot of spiritual journeys and asked a lot of questions, this album was a game changer, but also a life raft for me for a couple of years. It helped me kind of find my way through the disappointment of Christians. And I know that sounds harsh. I have stories that go along with that. And I've come back around to understanding that every faith is made up of flawed people, you know, so. But the best thing that we can do is to quiet ourselves and not always be praising and asking, but be listening, which is what meditation is. This was about around the time I started meditating, mindfulness meditation. And that saved my life. And when I say it saved my life, I actually mean saved my life.

[Bobby Bones]

So thank you for showing those and sharing that.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Final question. What are the five best Sheryl Crow songs, starting at number one.

[Sheryl Crow]

Oh, wow. Well, best technically or my favorites? My favorite song.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, let's do favorites.

[Sheryl Crow]

Okay. I'm gonna do my favorite, which is number one, my favorite mistake. And it's the only song that, when it comes on the radio, I don't turn it off.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you like how you sound?

[Sheryl Crow]

I do, but I don't know. I think it's also how it felt when I wrote it. I don't overanalyze it, criticize it, you know? Whereas other things, I go, gosh, I wish I would have done this or would have done that. Best songs, number two, Redemption Day. Wrote it after I went and played for the troops in Bosnia, Came home, wound up writing about, asking questions about, why do we go into the places that we go into to create a presence. When Rwanda was under complete and total genocide, we were in Bosnia defending, you know, our oil. And then Johnny Cash recorded it. So that was. That's really the one you should check out if you're gonna listen to it, if it makes you happy. That was the result of my first record being huge and my second record, people going, well, she doesn't even write her own songs. So I was like, oh, really? Let me just. Here and then. Every day is a winding Road. I would say that one, that was the result of a really good friend of mine who was in Crowded House killing himself and it feeling too close to home. So I wrote that song, and then it wound up actually, strangely, having a lot of different lives, particularly through Covid. And then the last one, I would say, gosh, maybe I Shall Believe. That's my Faith song.

[Bobby Bones]

Strong Enough. Doesn't make it.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, not really. I love the song. I love playing it. But then sometimes I go, maybe I should have done this or I should have done that. But, yeah, I do love it. I always tell people I've been engaged three times. I never got married, so I've never been divorced, so I have all my money still.

[Bobby Bones]

You are awesome.

[Sheryl Crow]

Oh, thanks for having me, Bobby.

[Bobby Bones]

And what was awesome is, like, we crammed in a little music talk at the end.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's. That's, like, how, you know, it was great. I feel like this is great.

[Sheryl Crow]

You're gonna be a great dad.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm your biggest fan, so I'm glad

[Sheryl Crow]

I made the list. I'm very flattered, I hope.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I think I'll be a good dad because I'm so concerned I won't be a good dad. That's literally, like, the logical part of me goes, I think I'll be a good dad because I'm so worried I'm not gonna be a good dad.

[Sheryl Crow]

You're gonna be a great dad.

[Bobby Bones]

And we talked about your tour stuff before you came in, and I hope. Do you play all the hits?

[Sheryl Crow]

We play all the hits. Yes, definitely. And we are very, very blessed because, honestly, with the climate it is now and people making their own playlists and stuff, I don't know how you do it, but for us, we have, you know, about 14 songs that generationally people know, and I do not take it for granted. So we are happy to play them.

[Bobby Bones]

Love it.

[Sheryl Crow]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you. There she is. Thanks for having me, Sheryl Crow.

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