BOBBYCAST: Trisha Yearwood on People Driving By Her House + Being Told She Wasn’t a Good Songwriter + She and Garth Going to the Grocery Store Regularly + Her Death Row Meal + How She was Almost Part of a Country Band

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – BOBBYCAST: Trisha Yearwood on People Driving By Her House + Being Told She Wasn’t a Good Songwriter + She and Garth Going to the Grocery Store Regularly + Her Death Row Meal + How She was Almost Part of a Country Band

Introduction and Album Announcement

In Episode 525 of The Bobby Bones Show, host Bobby Bones welcomes renowned country singer Trisha Yearwood for an engaging and heartfelt conversation. The episode, released on July 11, 2025, centers around Trisha’s upcoming album, the Mirror, slated for release on July 18th. Trisha expresses a unique sense of peace and confidence about her new project, emphasizing her dedication to creating music she loves without attaching excessive expectations to its reception.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha Yearwood [00:00]: "I don't have an expectation other than I love what I'm doing. And I feel such peace about this project that you may love it. It might not be your thing, and I'm good with that."

Songwriting Journey and Self-Confidence

A significant portion of the conversation delves into Trisha’s evolution as a songwriter. She candidly recounts a pivotal moment during her college years at Belmont University when a peer dismissed her abilities, declaring she wasn’t a songwriter. This harsh feedback deeply impacted her self-confidence, leading her to doubt her songwriting talents despite her evident passion for music.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [03:38]: "He said, you know, Trisha Yearwood, you're a writer. We're going to write."
• Trisha Yearwood [05:25]: "When somebody says that to you, it just shut me down completely."

However, Trisha's perseverance and collaboration with her husband, Garth Fundis, her longtime producer, helped her overcome these doubts. The breakthrough came when she began actively writing her own songs, viewing the process as therapeutic and a means to communicate with her younger self.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha Yearwood [05:20]: "It was really therapy. It was like songs to my younger self, and I never thought I would make a record."

Early Career and Nashville Life

Trisha shares insights into her early career and life in Nashville, reflecting on her small-town upbringing and the challenges of breaking into the music industry. She discusses the steep learning curve and the unwavering determination that propelled her toward success, despite initially lacking a clear roadmap.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [09:18]: "You could answer the same question. There had to be something in you that knew, well, somebody's on the radio. Why can't it be me?"
• Trisha Yearwood [10:22]: "I think because even at a really young age, I was so musical, I was so into music, and I didn't have a backup plan."

Fan Interactions and Everyday Life

Trisha and Bobby delve into the realities of fame, particularly how public scrutiny affects their personal lives. Trisha recounts experiences with fans who drive by her residence, sometimes leading to intrusive attempts to connect. Despite these challenges, she values her privacy and treasures moments when she can engage with fans in everyday settings like grocery shopping.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [02:26]: "Your home is your sanctuary. That's the one place that you should be able to just be yourself."
• Trisha Yearwood [13:35]: "We can go there a hundred times and 99 times it’ll be chill. And then that one day it'll just be autographs and pictures."

Personal Health and Mental Wellness

The conversation shifts to personal health, with Bobby sharing his struggles with high blood pressure and dietary changes, prompting a discussion on healthy eating habits. Trisha offers relatable advice, emphasizing the enjoyment of plant-based alternatives like the Impossible Burger and tofu when prepared thoughtfully.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [15:11]: "If you can find ways to make something and you're not putting any cholesterol in your body, you know, it's like."
• Trisha Yearwood [16:44]: "But I do like tofu. I just have to find the right way to prepare it."

Trisha also candidly discusses her mental health journey, particularly her experience with lens therapy, a form of brain therapy that has significantly improved her cognitive function post-COVID-19. She highlights the positive impact of this therapy on her sleep and mental clarity, encouraging listeners to seek similar support if needed.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [31:57]: "When you've ever had surgery, you know, if you've ever been had anesthesia, your brain stays asleep. My brain was asleep, and I didn't know."
• Trisha Yearwood [33:38]: "They hit a little different spots... it's a way to use your voice in a completely different way."

Television Appearances and Acting

Trisha reminisces about her brief stint on the television show Hee Haw and her cameo on Nashville, where she played herself. These experiences reflect her versatility as an artist and her ability to navigate different facets of the entertainment industry.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [43:43]: "Yes, I did. I played Trisha Yearwood."
• Trisha Yearwood [44:32]: "I sang that theme song for it. And then they didn't pick up. They did like a two-hour movie and they didn't pick up the series."

Personal Interests and Hobbies

Beyond music and cooking, Trisha shares her love for nature, hiking, and crocheting. These activities serve as her form of meditation, allowing her to decompress and find balance amidst her busy career. She describes the therapeutic benefits of crocheting, both as a creative outlet and a means to prevent unhealthy habits like late-night snacking.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [51:59]: "Nature. Hiking... I love getting to watch my dogs on the trail."
• Trisha Yearwood [52:43]: "I love crochet… it's a way to decompress where you can't, you can't, your mind just can't."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the conversation wraps up, Trisha highlights key elements of her new album, the Mirror, explaining its significance as a reflective collection of songs that encapsulate her personal and professional journey. She emphasizes the album’s role in encouraging self-acceptance and resilience, mirroring the introspective nature of her songwriting evolution.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha Yearwood [59:07]: "The Mirror is a collection of songs that really represent every part of me there. It's an album of reflection."

Trisha also shares her favorite songs from the album, such as "Bringing the Angels" and "The Shovel," illustrating the range of emotions and stories encompassed within the project. Her final remarks express gratitude and excitement for the album's release, promising fans a deeply personal and authentic musical experience.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Yearwood [59:12]: "The Mirror is the perfect title because for the first time in my career, it truly is a record, a full album of reflection."
• Trisha Yearwood [60:03]: "If you can figure out how to see ourselves outside ourselves, we would like ourselves a lot more."

Final Interaction

Bobby Bones commends Trisha on her new album and shares a light-hearted moment about the challenges of integrating physical CDs in the digital age. The episode concludes with Trisha expressing her excitement for the upcoming promotional activities surrounding the Mirror, reinforcing her commitment to engaging with her audience both musically and personally.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha Yearwood [61:40]: "I'm really happy and I…I have a CD so you can go to somebody's car and listen to it if you want to."

Trisha Yearwood’s candid and introspective discussion on The Bobby Bones Show offers listeners a profound glimpse into her artistic journey, personal growth, and the imminent release of her reflective album, the Mirror.

Transcript

[Trisha Yearwood]

This is an I heart podcast. I'm always nervous when an album comes out, and for this one, I'm just not. I don't have an expectation other than I love what I'm doing. And I feel such peace about this project that you may love it. It might not be your thing, and I'm good with that. I'm good with however that. However it falls.

[Bobby Bones]

Welcome to episode 525 with Trisha Yearwood. She has an album coming out not this Friday, but next Friday, if you're hearing this on release date called the Mirror. That album comes out July 18th. It was nice to have doctor to doctor talk. Do you know that two doctors.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Both honorary, though. Yeah. Neither one of us could write prescriptions. She was awarded an honorary doctorate from Nashville's Belmont University, where she graduated in 1986 with a degree in music business. Man, I should have asked her about that. What it's like to be a doctor and then throw my own flex in there. We love Trisha. She has some dates coming up in Nashville with the symphony on December 2nd and 3rd, Newark, New Jersey, December 5th, Pittsburgh on December 18th, and Detroit with the symphony on December 19th. She is a massive superstar. She's always super cool. And here she is, Trisha Yearwood. Trisha, good to see you again.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Good to see you.

[Bobby Bones]

Last time we did this, I think you said it was two houses ago.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. For you, I think. I don't even know where I might have been living in Oklahoma. I don't even know. I can't remember. It's been a long time. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Maybe not. Maybe. I remember back here, I remember it.

[Bobby Bones]

Was that when you were.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It was every girl.

[Bobby Bones]

The big. There was. It was big band.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Oh, yeah. So it was. I was here. It was 18.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Trisha Yearwood]

19. Somewhere in there. Yeah. I was here.

[Bobby Bones]

Covet also.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I'm still in the same house.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not my wife. What's interesting is that my wife said to me, you know, you're used to moving? And I said, yeah. And then I. Obviously therapy did it and rooted it. And like, growing up, we were never in the same house more than two years. And I never thought of it, like, it being real life stuff. We either got kicked out or had to move trailers or move to a different apartment or something. And so as I began to, like, have some success, it was always, I'll just move to another house.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Probably in your DNA.

[Bobby Bones]

It's crazy. I never thought about that until she said that.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so we I have with her. We had weirdos. So we had to move from our last house. We had a, there was an accessible road.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, can't, you can't have.

[Bobby Bones]

And that was, and that stupid tour bus drives by and would tell people where we lived.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. When I used to live in Brentwood and my house was on the list and I would be in my front yard in my pajamas, you know, and I had a fence and a gate and, but it's, it was a, you know, four acre lot and the bus would drive by and they'd get out and take pictures and it's, I mean, you know, I, you know, it sounds like, oh, poor you guys. You people know who you are. But you know, your home is your sanctuary. That's the one place that you should be able to just be yourself.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think if they would have just chilled on the bus, that have been good. But they would like get in their cars and drive back by themselves.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then it was like, ah, be your friend.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Because you seem like everybody's friends, so.

[Bobby Bones]

Everyone, ah, you're wrong. Everybody. I'm nobody's friend. I'm only here. Amy, on my show, it's, we were talking about you on the air and she said, she, maybe you played the Bluebird lately. And she was talking about something from the Bluebird and she said, you know, Trisha said that when she started that she was just kind of told to sing these songs. And I'm paraphrasing so you can tell me if I'm wrong. And she said, but now this new album, this new project she has, she's actually writing some of the songs. And I was like, I did not know that. How accurate is that?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, the writing part is accurate. I wasn't told to sing the songs, but I was not a confident songwriter. So I picked every song I recorded. And so I don't look back and go, man, I would not have recorded She's Alone with the Boy. But I, because Garth Fundus was my longtime producer and he and I chose every song together. But I, when I was in college at Belmont, I had a guy tell me that I was not a songwriter. And I didn't even realize that it was in there. Like you were talking about moving a lot. You don't know what's in your DNA, you know, the body keeps the score kind of thing. But I must have somehow. And I just, I, I, I believed it. And so when I did write some in the early 90s and I, I, I never recorded anything that I wrote, but I. I just didn't. When I went to work with Garth Fundus, I never said, hey, I'd like to write something for this project. It just never occurred to me to even say it. He wouldn't have said, no, you can't. But I didn't believe in myself. And so anytime anybody would say they wanted to write with me, I'd be like, oh, you don't want to write with me? I'm. I'm not really a writer. And something just happened where the. The switch flipped a couple years ago, and I was like this guy who, bless his heart, you know, probably doesn't even remember. He said it didn't mean anything to him, but apparently it stuck with me. But I just kind of said, that doesn't have to be the truth just because somebody else said it about me. And it just kind of opened up this whole new world. So it's not a. It doesn't. It doesn't take anything away from. I mean, I feel so lucky. I have found the best songs in the world. Like, the Song Remembers when and Walk Away Joe, and She's In Love with the Boy. But it's just another level that I have. Not that I. I just. I kind of got out of that shell and was like, that doesn't have to be the truth. And it's opened up a whole new world for me. I'm. I'm loving it so much. Never intended to make a record of it. It was really therapy. It was like songs to my younger self, and I. I never thought I would make a record.

[Bobby Bones]

What context was that conversation where he said, you're probably not a songwriter. You're not a songwriter?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, at Belmont, you know, everybody. A lot of people at Belmont were singers and songwriters aspiring, and. And there was a group of us that were buddies, and he was a friend. He and his wife were in school together, and we. We were doing some writing in this group, and he said, let me see all your. Because I came to Nashville with my stack of poetry and my songs from high school, and so I gave him this stash of stuff, and he took it and said. And said, I'll get back with you and see if there's anything that we can work on. He brought it all back to me, basically, and said. He, yeah, I don't. I don't think you're a songwriter. You're a really good singer. And I just was like, oh. And, you know, you're. It's so personal. Songwriting is. You have to. It's so vulnerable to put yourself out there anyway. And if someone gives you some negative feedback, it just shut me down completely.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a weird mix of. You're at an impressionable, creative age.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

And you're right. It is so personal and impressionable and personable and personal. When they meet, if they don't meet, almost delicately, in the right exact way, I can see where you would be scarred and not even purposely by the person who's saying it.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right. Because he. Because I'm sure that, you know, I've talked about him, and I feel kind of bad, but I don't have any ill will toward him because it was me that made it the truth. And I was 19 years old. So, yeah, it took a. It took a long time for that to kind of get out of my head. And even my husband, who, you know, he's in several songwriting hall of fames, you know, he's been telling me for years, you're a writer. And there's a song on the Chris Gaines project, actually, that I'm a co writer on. But that was Pulling Teeth, where he sat me down and said, tell me. Tell me about growing up in a small town. And we had this conversation. He made it rhyme. He made it poetry, because I was like, I'm not a writer. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I know. And so I actually went to him after. After all this started, and I said, you should write with me. I'm a lot. It'd be a lot more fun for you now because. And we have written some together, because it's. I just feel different.

[Bobby Bones]

Tell me about growing up in a small town.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I mean, everybody knew your business. You know, it was church on Sunday and football on Friday night, and we had a town square. If you ever saw the movie My Cousin Vinnie, it was filmed in my hometown.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a movie I never thought that I would like. And then I watched In Love.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. But all those places are real. Like, the sack of suds that they rob is a real place. And the courthouse and the town square, and it's. Several movies were filmed there because it's a really sleepy little town, really. 2,000 people in the city limits, and we don't have a Walmart. We don't have. You know, so it's a great place for a movie because you can kind of go back in time a little bit and. But, you know, the square was where you didn't hang out. So in my family, like, you know, there's no cell phones. There's no. But if I was on the square, someone would have called my parents before I got home, and they would know that I had been on the square square. And nothing good happened on the square. So it was very much a town where I felt a little bit like a fish out of water, because I knew at a really young age that I wanted to sing. I knew I wanted to get out of my small town, had no idea how to do it, didn't know anybody in the music industry and everybody else. A lot of people stayed there and, you know, their whole lives. And when I go back now, I have such a love and appreciation for the way I grew up, because the grounding. The whole town raised me and that I carry with me, but I can't. I can't see myself staying, having stayed there.

[Bobby Bones]

Our stories are similar in that where I came from, nobody really did. I'll say this because we were only shown a version of life, and it was work at the mill or work in Hot Springs, which was town that was, you know, Mountain Pine had 700 people. So you worked at the mill or you got a job possibly in town, or you worked at the school. And there weren't people that told me, don't do that. But it just wasn't. It wasn't real.

[Trisha Yearwood]

That's the thing.

[Bobby Bones]

It just wasn't a reality, and it wasn't. You can't. But it was like. It was looked at as, like, Hollywood. It was like, that's what they used you do in the movies. You don't do that in real life. And I'm curious. What made you think you actually could?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Man, I don't know. You could answer the same question. There had to be something in you that knew, well, somebody's on the radio. Why can't it be me? There had to be something in there. And I. I think because even at a really young age, I was so musical, I was so into music, and I didn't have a backup plan. And. And in my hometown, if you sang, you led the church choir, or you taught music, which are noble professions, but that's just not what I wanted to do. But I think there was just something in me. And when I was in high school, we had. There was a touring vocal group from Belmont that came to my school, and they performed in the gym. And when I saw them, I was like, I'm gonna go to Belmont. I didn't. It took me a while. I went to junior college first. I didn't get to Belmont till junior Year. But somehow I felt like Nashville is where I feel like I need to be. And Nashville felt like. I mean, it was six hours from home, which was a lot for a kid at the time. But it felt like that's doable because at first I thought, well, I want to be Cher. I gotta go to California, you know, And I thought, okay, Nashville's closer. And I wanted to be a Linda Ronstadt by then. And so it felt like the right place to be.

[Bobby Bones]

What did you think the first time you went to Los Angeles?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I mean, I loved it. I did. I mean, I. The first time I went to New York, I was terrified. And I now love New York. But at the first time I went. I was really scared. But the first time I went to la, I mean, I felt like every little kid from Georgia that, you know, you're gonna see. You're just gonna see celebrities on the street everywhere.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. I was gonna walk around and see them just walking down the street.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, they're gonna be standing by their star on Boulevard, you know, but that's not. That's not how it was. But it was warm.

[Bobby Bones]

I like that it was warm and it was full of traffic. But the buildings in New York and la. New York to me was. And when I was on American Idol for so long, it was because I had their story and because a lot of these kids, they were like shipping to la, who had never been there before. And that's what you mentioned, like, share in la. And I always had dreams, like, one day I'm going to go to la. But it ended up not being the order that I thought it would. Eventually I got out there and realized, you know, it's not really for me like, that. That version of this is not really for me. But I remember the first time I got out to LA or New York and we just building big buildings and that to me was so intimidating because we had no. We had Little Rock, which was the. The city. And they had two. They're not even skyscrapers. Skyscratchers.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, well, we had Atlanta, which was larger than life, but we. You know, that was an hour drive. And I wasn't really allowed to go to Atlanta much when I was a kid, so. So I. It was. It was the same for me. I mean, I feel like I. We grew up in very similar situations that, you know, the first time I saw the west coast was on a tour bus, and the first time I went past the Mississippi river west was on a tour bus. So it was all new to me. And what I've learned after being in California a good bit and New York a good bit is. What I love about Nashville is it has kind of elements of those cities, but there's still a community feeling here in the music community. And there's still. When we are growing so much that I stopped telling people to move here, but. But it's still. You can find those pockets of places that feel. Where we live in north of town, in Goodlettsville. We're in the country. We could be in Monticello, Georgia. It's like, you know, I know everybody at the grocery store, just like I did in Monticello. And, you know, it's. It's small town where right outside of.

[Bobby Bones]

A big city are people used to you where they don't. In your hometown. Here now they don't. I won't say bother. That's not the word. But they don't make you extra busy if you go into town.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, it's really interesting because. I mean, because Garth and I do everything ourselves. It's not. It's not. It's not rare to see us at the grocery store. And I think that's when people, like, if you never go out and do stuff, I think that's when. When you do, it becomes a bigger deal. But it's interesting to me. He and I can be. We'll just take the grocery store for an example. We can go there a hundred times and 99 times. It'll be chill. And then that one day it'll just be autographs and pictures. And I don't know why that is. I don't know if it's. Sometimes it's like, man, my friend Deb says she sees you guys in here all the time, and I've never seen you. Can I get my picture? And then that kind of starts the ball rolling, which probably that happens to you, too. But most. And most of the time, people just want to tell you they love your music. Or with me, they'll want to say, you know, hey, I'm making this recipe for blah, blah, blah. My husband's a diabetic. Can you recommend. You know, so there's a whole lot of different questions.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, that's so interesting. Can you tell what they like before they get to you of what you do?

[Trisha Yearwood]

No, no, because I can.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I've been like. I've danced on television, and usually that's like 70 and over. Like, if there's somebody over 70 who I was like, I'm a big fan. I'm like, you, for sure. Watch me dance on a dancing reality show. If it's, like, a fan, you know, it could be a T. I usually can tell if they're younger. It's most of the time the podcast or a podcast. But I guess a lot of your stuff is so interconnected.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. And the Food Network show brought a lot of younger people, oddly enough. Like, like, girl women that like to watch the show with their mom, even on the phone. They'd be on the phone on Saturday mornings talking, and little. Little kids. So a lot of times when they come up to me and a lot of the younger kids, their parents are like, you know, she sings, too. You know, and at first, that really bothered me. At first I was like, look, I'm a singer, and I don't want anybody to not know that about me. But what I learned over time is that however they find you, because we sing on the show and, you know, however they find you, then they. They learn the other things about you. So it might be music, it might be food, but they eventually figure you out.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, what's pretty good to eat is. And I. I've only recently had it. I'm gonna. Okay. I also went to the doctor. It's how I start my story. So I go to the doctor, right. And the doctor's like, you kind of have a little bit of high blood pressure. It's genetically. I genetically have high blood pressure. Who knew?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

And I didn't know. I never did any of those tests that you do. Like the. And so he's like, yeah, maybe don't eat as much red meat. I freaking love meat. My wife makes fun of me because if there's not meat in the meal, it's not a meal.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And we've been eating a bit, too. Two things. One, like Impossible Burger and tofu.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

If prepared right, they're kind of awesome. And you bring up food. And I've recently got on the Impossible Burger, and now their packaging is red, so I don't feel like I'm eating leafs.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Instead of being green, which I would be like, oh, it's green. It's a plant. I want that. Little things like, that can affect me, which I'm still a child in my brain. And then tofu, which I always was very anti. If prepared right actually is pretty good. Have you mastered the art of making. I don't know, Garth or family eat things they don't know they like?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. Because we actually, Garth and I go through. We're actually in a vegan vegetarian Phase right now, we go through phases. And I do make everything Southern. I know how to make all that stuff. But I. But the challenge is, you know, you want to have meatloaf and mashed potatoes, but how can you make them healthy? And I just made meatloaf. Not a shameless plug. But we have a meatloaf mix out on Williams Sonoma, and I say I'm going to make it with Impossible Burger. And I just made it, and it was fantastic. So to me, if you can make. If you can find ways to make something and you're not putting any cholesterol in your body, you know, it's like.

[Bobby Bones]

That was it for me. Yeah.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Great. So for us, we're older, we, you know, I have high cholesterol. Not crazy high, but I have to watch it. And so I, I'm always looking for ways. I don't, I say I'm. I don't. I eat meat, but I don't eat it very often. And I got. And I grew up that way where there was meat at every meal. But I got away from that. And you can, you can. And tofu. I always hated tofu because it was just like, it tastes like air, it has no flavor, but.

[Bobby Bones]

And the name, it just makes you feel like you don't like it.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Tofu.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right. It just sounds. But there are ways. Like, there's a. I, I will slice it really thin and put like a teriyaki vibe on it and bake it, and it becomes like a. Almost like jerky.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Trisha Yearwood]

And with a great flavor. And then you slice it and put it in a salad and you got plenty of protein. There's ways to do it that are really good. So, Garth. And our whole thing is we're going to eat vegan. If it's good. It's not. It's not. It's good for vegan. It's got to be good. So that's a challenge. You would have to. But you can do it.

[Bobby Bones]

My favorite meal, or if the. What's the meal you're going to have before you die is chicken fried steak with white gravy. Mashed potatoes with white. It's a lot of white gravy.

[Trisha Yearwood]

A lot of white gravy.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a lot of white gravy. Fried okra. That's it for me. Like, that's the one. What is yours?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Probably fried chicken, mashed potatoes. Not really a gravy person, which is weird. Gret's a big gravy person. Or our Sunday dinner was always roast beef and Rice and gravy, brown gravy. And that. That was one of my favorite things, like household.

[Bobby Bones]

Traditionally, you guys had roast beef on Sundays, like after church or something.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Every Sunday.

[Bobby Bones]

And who made that?

[Trisha Yearwood]

My mom.

[Bobby Bones]

She could cook.

[Trisha Yearwood]

She was amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that where you learned the fundamentals?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, my dad was a really good cook, too. So they. And they were just cooks. They were basic cooks. So when we started and we did the first book I had, it was really just a way to get everything in one place. You know, a lot of things were not written down, so my mom had to write everything down, and she and myself and my sister did the book. And then when it was successful, we started having to create recipes and come up with things and. And a lot of things that we realize we make all the time that weren't in a book. And it's basic stuff, like if you don't know how to cook green beans down, you don't know how to do it. It's like, it's not hard, but if you don't know, you don't know. So our approach. And I learned that most people who cook, cook like that. They don't. They're not chefs, so they don't use exotic spices. They use salt and pepper, and they might use a little garlic powder if they're getting crazy. So we keep it pretty simple.

[Bobby Bones]

You just started a TikTok account.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I did.

[Bobby Bones]

What's just. Because I've seen you popped up on for you page, and I just thought they fed you to me after all these years. But then I looked and there weren't a ton of videos up. How long have you been doing TikTok?

[Trisha Yearwood]

A couple weeks, Something like that?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. I mean, I had. I guess you have to have an account to be able to look at TikTok. So I. I had. I had it on my. I have it on my phone. I've had it on my phone for, like a year. And I resisted for a long time. And what I learned about TikTok in that time was that I. I would give up everything in my life and just be sitting home watching Tick Tock. I would give up my. I couldn't be here today because I'm watching Tick Tock. So I had to give myself a parameter. So every day, and Mandy's. Who here knows this? Because I'll send her Tick Tock. She knows I'm running the dogs. Because when I run my dogs, if I'm hiking them, I'm not on my phone. But if I'm driving in a little atv and they're running. I'll get on Tick tock. So that's like my 30 minutes of. And I'm obsessed.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's also. You only do 30 minutes. So you have to like find 30 minutes where I'm not doing it.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, I can't. And, and I live with a guy who's not on social media. Like he's on it his as a personality, but he doesn't do, he doesn't care. He doesn't check.

[Bobby Bones]

His personal interest isn't to go to social media and see what's going on anyway. Yeah.

[Trisha Yearwood]

So I, I can't. If he was scrolling, it'd be easier for me to be scrolling. But he does not. So I don't when we're together, which is most of the time. So. So my 30 minutes with the dogs is when I, when I, when I'll scroll.

[Bobby Bones]

What have you found people like from you?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I think everybody. I mean, I have. My dogs are my, you know, they're my recreational time. And I find when I post, you know, a video of them or that, you know, I'm sure you're the same way. People just want to know what you're doing when you're not doing this. And so a lot of it's just hiking or what am I cooking or. I just made a video, I haven't posted it yet of me because I had my hair makeup done this morning for this podcast and this one and the one I did before and I don't do this myself. I don't have, I don't, I don't really have the time or patience for hair. Hair extensions and makeup. So I did a take off the day and people are always doing the tick tocks where they're putting on their makeup. But I'm like, I took all my hair out. It took a while and I took my makeup off and I want to time lapse and post it because I feel like that's, I mean that's something people probably interested in to be like, I don't. This is not what I, I don't. I'm not going to wear makeup to go to the grocery store.

[Bobby Bones]

That's funny.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's.

[Trisha Yearwood]

What do you put?

[Bobby Bones]

That's all. That's also vulnerable.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. But I remember the first time that I posted myself with no makeup. We, we did a, we did. When the, when the cooking show was live every Saturday. We did, we did a lot. Not live, but the show came on Saturdays. We did a live coffee talk every Morning before. Every Saturday morning before the show. And I said, I'll do it, but I don't wanna. I don't wanna be. I don't have to be in hair and makeup. I don't. I want to be in my pajamas if I want. I want to be drinking coffee. So that kind of started it. And so now and then, Covid made it okay to. I saw myself in no makeup every single day. And I just don't care. So I. So I don't care. I. I don't really care anymore. It's like, sometimes I'm in makeup, sometimes I'm not. It's fine.

[Bobby Bones]

How do you deal with rejection?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I'm not. Well, you know, I mean, we. You know, we're in this day and age where if you say, good morning, I'm having a cup of coffee, you'll get hate for. I don't drink coffee. I only drink tea. I hate you. I'll never buy your records again. I'm like, well, you're not buying my records anyway, so it's fine. So I really don't look at. The way I deal with rejection is. I just don't look at the. I don't look at any of the comments. I just can't. I just don't have time anymore. I don't. I don't. I don't need that negativity and, you know, rejection in business. I mean, I don't know. I feel like I haven't had a ton of that, but I. I'm. I'm. I'm at an age where I take everything on as, like, I'm. Where I never believed it before. Like, everything happens the way it's supposed to. So I just. And with this album, I'm always nervous when an album comes out, and for this one, I'm just not, because I. I don't have an expectation other than I love what I'm doing. And I feel such peace about this project that it's like a piece of art. You may love it, it might not be your thing, and I'm good with that. I'm good with however that. However it falls.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. And we're back. The Bobby cast. You say expectation. What's the best case scenario with the new project? What is the absolute best thing that could happen with this?

[Trisha Yearwood]

It could win a Grammy. You know, I want more. I want people to know about it because it's. Because it's so personal. I just want as many people to hear it as possible. And, you know, the avenues are so different now than they were when I started. You know, it's hard for me to wrap my head around focus tracks versus singles at radio and how does that really help you? And everything is so social media these days, so how do you. So for me, it's the best thing that can happen is that it gets the word out. And, you know, I've won awards and not won awards. I've been nominated and lost. So it's not really all about that. But to me, when I said that, like, that would mean that people. People heard it and recognized it and appreciated it.

[Bobby Bones]

So the record, when you say it's very personal, the first thing I'm drawn to when I look at it is the people that you get to sing with you on it, because what you're singing about is so personal. So to pick people to come into it with you is also very personal when your project is very personal. I love Haley Witters. I love her, like, as a person, as an artist. Her story then, her story now. Like, I just like who Hailey is.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Why. Why Haley?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, I. I started writing with Haley first. Chad Carlson, who's my co producer and engineer on this record, is a writer also, and he's got. He and I wrote some things together on this record, and he said, would you want to write with Haley? He's buddies with her. And I said, yeah. And I had met Haley before because she had done a song that she said was kind of inspired by she's in Love the Boy, and asked me to sing on it. So she and I knew. Know each other, and we got together and wrote a song about our moms. It didn't make the record, but it. It. It could make a future record. I don't know. I loved it. And we just kept getting together to write, and so we wrote a song called Drunk Works. That's really funny. It's funny because my serious songwriter friends are, like, so glad you didn't do some song about, like, girls going down to Broadway and drinking. I'm like, well, really sorry to disappoint you, but that's a song that we did write, and when we were writing it, we were laughing so hard on the work tape. Hayley is laughing at the end so much. That's. It's so great that I was like, I want to hear her on the record. And so we just asked if she come in and do a duet. So it's. It's doubly personal because it's. It's Haley And I feel like I'm, you know, getting to say thank you for having me on her record. But also she's a writer, so it made it on the, on the, on the single. On the song.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you have fun in Nashville when you're 21?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Did I have fun in Nashville?

[Bobby Bones]

21.

[Trisha Yearwood]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it. Why not?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, I mean, I was in school. I wasn't a partier. Broadway was, you know, just really not a place you went. It was really a dangerous part of town. There wasn't anything like it is obviously now, and there wasn't really anywhere to go. There was, you know, there was a couple of restaurants that some of the students would go hang out at, but. And, and then I. Right in, you know, right. While I was still in college, I got an internship at MTM Records, Mary Tyler Moore Records. And. And so I was working and then I got a job singing. I was singing in a bowling alley on the weekends.

[Bobby Bones]

What were you singing?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Top 40. Like, you know, everything from Ronstadt to Whitney Houston to everything.

[Bobby Bones]

For how long?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I did it for a couple years.

[Bobby Bones]

And how long each time, each shift you'd sing for?

[Trisha Yearwood]

You'd sing Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and you'd sing from like seven to one, maybe longer on the week, maybe at two on the weekend. And you get 200 bucks for the weekend. I mean, it was a lot. It was a lot. And you know, people are sitting right in front of you, smoking in your face and. And then I started doing demos and I realized that I could. Sorry. Get more work. I use my hands a lot. I could get my more work in demos if I quit the night job. And also I was just. I sounded like I had smoked two cartons of cigarettes the night before in the morning at a ten o' clock session. So I finally made the transition and realized I could make a lot more money doing demos. Even though that was 40 bucks a tune. I did a lot of demos and I made my own hours, made my own work and I did really well. So gave up the bowling alley.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you ever give up the big dream while you were here?

[Trisha Yearwood]

No. No, I never did. I mean, I thought. I always believed that this is what I was supposed to do because I didn't want to do anything else. I didn't have a backup plan. I didn't have a. Well, if I can't be an artist, I want to be in the music industry. I, I wouldn't. I. That would have been torture to be in the music industry and not doing this. This was all I ever wanted. To do. I actually, during my demo days, one of the guys that heard me sing this was in the 90s when. Or the 80s when. What's the name of the band that the. Paulette Carlson was the lead singer for? High 101. Yeah. Thank you. This is my. This is. This is Covid. Menopause Brain. I'm not sure which one. Anyway, she was leaving. She was leaving. Okay. I thought you might be in menopause. Anyway, she was leaving the band, and they were auditioning singers to take her place. And I got asked to audition, and I did. And I made it to the final couple of people, and they flew me out to Denver to meet the manager. And when I. When I got home, I thought, I don't know if they're going to offer this to me or not, but I feel like if I take it, I'm stepping into a successful group that no one's going to be able to be Paulette Carlson or. Or make people forget that. Such a successful group. And then I'm also kind of saying, well, you believed in yourself your whole life that you could be a solo artist, but now you're going to give up and do this. And so I sent a letter and said, I'm gonna take myself out of the running.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Trisha Yearwood]

And I. I did. And I don't know if they would have offered it to me or not, but I think the way they tell it, they rejected me. But I don't think that's. But that's not what happened.

[Bobby Bones]

What an interesting crossroads. I was talking yesterday because I think there are these moments in our life that, you know, we make the decision and then we live with the decision, and we can look at it and go, I either learn from it or I'm glad I made it, or who knows? But I was offered one of the hosting. No. 1 of the judging jobs on the Masked Singer before the show started. And I didn't know what that show was. That wasn't. That wasn't an American show. It's from, like, Japan.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And they were like, come be a judge on this show. And at the same time, I just started to have some success in television. And I had done my first season on Idol, but I wasn't full time yet. I had done, like half the episodes. And they said, hey, come do full time on Idol. But I was like, fifth string. Cause there was the judges, there was Seacrest, and there was me, and I was on every episode, but I still wasn't one of the main three. And they also were like. But you'll do Dancing with the Stars as well. And I had to decide, and I said, I've never heard of the masked singer, so I'm gonna go do American Idol and Dancing with the Stars. And I'm super happy that I did. Like looking back, I think I would have made the same decision, but what a weird decision to have to make. Yours reminded me of that because here you are, you've been trying to make it. Here's a path to making it right, Whatever that means.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. And I didn't have anything on the other side. I didn't have a record deal. You know, I didn't. You know, so I. I don't know. I'm. And I'm really glad I made.

[Bobby Bones]

You did that. Like what? I don't know, because I don't know that I would make the same decision. I'd be like, I. I get to get paid a little more and go travel. I think I'm going to go do it. I think that was a very mature decision to make for however old you were.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, I mean, I was. I was. I was 22, something like.

[Bobby Bones]

And you really believed in yourself.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I. I guess I did. You know, I guess there was something deep down. I mean, because when I look at that and think about it, I'm like, that was. Why didn't you. I mean, it was really gutsy to not take that gig. It was a sure thing. But, I mean, it was the right move, because I think it was obviously the right move for me, and I think I got a record deal within a couple of years.

[Bobby Bones]

I would be proud. Are you proud of yourself? Not just for that, but in general. Are you proud of yourself?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm proud of myself because I come from a very small town and I never gave up on a really big impossible dream, and I. And I get to do it for a living.

[Bobby Bones]

When did you. And when were you able to look back and go, you know, I'm proud of myself?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Maybe today.

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't know if anybody's ever asked me that question.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a weird. It's a weird question. I've only through therapy, started to have. I have to look at myself through another lens or I hate everything I do.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. It's hard to say it about yourself.

[Bobby Bones]

It's. And it's uncomfortable. It's a weird question to ask yourself, much less anybody else.

[Trisha Yearwood]

But, like, I might need your therapist.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's. I go to a psychiatrist who can prescribe medicine. I've never been. And here's the thing about that. They cost, like, three times as much.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Oh, yeah, yeah, it sucks. Do you know what I did that your. That Amy turned me onto? Actually, Amy did an interview with a woman who does lens therapy. Do you know about this brain? The brain. And I go to her, and it's changed my life.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, see, I think for some reason, you were meant to sit in that chair and tell me that today.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Now I'm going to tell you what.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Happens, because I don't ever talk about this. Well, I do. I do with all my friends, but not on, you know, publicly.

[Bobby Bones]

So Amy bought me a gift of that, and I've never used it, and she bought it for me many, many seasons ago. And it just. I felt like I don't want to go to sit and have them do some brain work. Amy Grant was also somebody who would. Would talk about it and has talked to me about it. And this morning, I'm driving into work, and I've been. This morning I'm driving into work, and I've been kind of kicking the can with it. And I was like, I'm just going to tell Amy that if she just sets the appointment, I will go. And I forget. And I forgot to tell her this morning. Or I just was like, you know what? Screw it. The fact that you said that on the same day that I told. That's weird.

[Trisha Yearwood]

That means you need to do it. So for me, I had Covid, like, everybody did. And I had a mild case of COVID but it really messed with my smell and taste. And I also had. So I would say I'm a long Covid person. So I had all the brain fog. I'm 60. People are like, you're in menopause. I'm like, yeah, but this is different. Like, I can't. I'm looking at a rolling pin, and I can't name it. So I either have early onset Alzheimer's or something's wrong. And so a friend of mine, Callie Heard, heard Amy's interview with Sherry at lens therapy and told me about it. And I went. And I didn't tell anybody I was going because I'm like, I don't even know. I don't understand what this does. And. And the first thing I noticed was that I was sleeping better than I'd slept in 10 years. And then I noticed the fog start to lift. And the. If you've ever had surgery, you know, if you've ever been had anesthesia, your brain stays asleep. My brain was asleep, and I didn't know What?

[Bobby Bones]

You. I didn't know that. What you just said.

[Trisha Yearwood]

If you've ever had anesthesia, your brain doesn't fully wake back up. So everybody could benefit from having their brain awake.

[Bobby Bones]

So what happened? When you go, what happens?

[Trisha Yearwood]

So they put these little electrodes. It looks like you're about to get, like, shock therapy. But it's not that there's a little electrodes first. They're grounded on your ears, and they hit little different spots. I think there's 21 places on your brain. And you'll hit, like, retention. Like, if you're reading. Do you retain what you're reading? Motivation, childhood memory. So it's like you're going to therapy in a way, but you're not talking about it. They're just. It's just your brain. Your. Your brain waves are sitting here in a rut. Or if you loop, if you hit a block every time, and this tiny little charge you don't feel it lifts those brain waves and they go, oh, there's a better way. And I mean, it's. I feel like my brain feels like it did in my 30s.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I feel it works, huh?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Completely. And I've sent a bunch of people. Like, I'll usually run into someone I know walking out of there when I go in. And it takes 15 minutes. It's not expensive.

[Bobby Bones]

Do I have to get naked?

[Trisha Yearwood]

You could, but I don't have to. You don't have to? Yeah, it's optional.

[Bobby Bones]

I. I think that that is totally bizarre. But also, I'll. I'll accept that it was more than bizarre.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, I think it's meant to be. And it takes a few times. Like, I. I went. She says you an average of like 10 times. You don't have to. Like, if. If you miss a week, it's not like your brain goes back to sleep. And once your brain's awake, it's awake. But if you get covet again or if you. Because Covid, they. They found that Covid kind of does that. It kind of puts your brain in delta. And they're seeing a lot of success with this. With COVID patients. They do it a lot for childhood trauma, for kids like, they. They treated a lot of the Covenant kids. They help them process the trauma quickly, and it helps them get. Be able to move through it better. They also work with. If you've ever had a concussion, if you've ever hit your head, you'll see it on the computer. You'll see the spot on your head. It's pretty crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever had Acupuncture?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

I've been going every week.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, it's great.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know if it is, though.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I mean, I guess it's great. What do you go for? What do you.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. I don't sleep. And it sucks.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think I used to wear it as a badge of honor. Now it just. It physically hurts me.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. Because sleep is so. Sleep is so important.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I think the brain lady will help you with your sleep. I do. I believe that. Have you ever had dry needling? Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Only for injuries, though.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. I do it for about once a month for. Because I. I strength train three times a week. And I'm also older and so everything always hurts.

[Bobby Bones]

Stop saying you're older.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I am. I'm a lot older than you.

[Bobby Bones]

You act like you're somebody. I'm your mom who watches Dancing with the Stars and comes up to me and goes, I watch Dancing with the Stars.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I love you, Bobby Bones.

[Bobby Bones]

Bringing the angels. I'm always curious about track ones of every project from everybody. Like, why Is there a reason? Is it tempo? Is it the message? Like, why? What's that song about? And why is the track one?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I mean, yes and yes and yes to all that. But also sometimes for me, track one always just shows itself. And I don't have a really great explanation for why the first song and the last song always kind of scream themselves to me. And then you got to figure out how the rest of them fit. But Leslie Satcher, who is a co writer on a lot of these songs, she was the she. She was the catalyst that kept calling me. Every time I would say, I'm not a writer, she'd call me back and say, trisha Yearwood, you're a writer. We're going to write. And we would book an appointment and I would, you know, fake an asthma attack and not show up. And finally we wrote and this song, she said, I want us to write. I feel like we need to write some kind of a gospel thing. And I said, well, I'm a spiritual, spiritual person, but I'm not a. Wear it on my sleeve kind of, you know, card carrying person in that way. But I mean, I'm interested in writing something like that. And Bridget Tatum, who is a badass, came over and we've written together, the three of us, several times. And we were just batting around ideas about not wanting to be some kind of like, like a. Like a hymn, but like something really tough. And my sister Beth was in the house and she came by to say hi to them. And we were just talking and Beth was kind of sitting in, and we were having our coffee, and Beth said, well, I'm gonna get out of here, but you guys are really. You're bringing the angels today. And we're like, well, she's a co writer now because that's the. That's the song. And Leslie starts every song. At the first line, she just starts singing, and she just. She just started singing, somebody, somebody ought to get hell on the line. I'm like, well, I don't know what this song is, but I love it already. So I love that it's just. And it is a tempo. It does kind of set the stage for, like, you're not sure what to expect. We're going to. We're just going to be in your face with the first song.

[Bobby Bones]

Do last song now.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Last song is when October settles in, which is, interestingly, the first song I wrote. When this whole portal opens.

[Bobby Bones]

Why the portal open? I want to take another step back, man.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't know. I don't know if I had just blocked it or I don't know. Again, I, you know, I'm. I'm pretty Zen, and I'm pretty, like, really believe things happen when they're supposed to. And I don't think I could have written a lot of these songs. I know I couldn't have written these songs in my 20s. So maybe things happen when they're supposed to. But I think what happened was, you know, Leslie, I really do credit her. I give her a special thank you in the notes on the record because she was just persistent. She believed in me more than I believed in myself. And she kept calling, kept pushing. So that first writing session that I showed up to, she had booked us with Steve Dorff, who's a famous songwriter, right? And I go in and I have my sheets of paper that I have written my thoughts in one liners on for 20 years. And I'm. Don't want to show it to anybody because I'm, you know, I'm scared that they're going to go, that all this sucks. And Leslie just, finally just says, give me the. Give me the paper. So she. I hand her the papers and she's reading through all my stuff, and she says, what's this one October settles in thing? And I said, well, it's kind of sad. I mean, my mom passed away in October, and it's. I don't. I don't think about the date coming up, but I. You feel it. The weather change you feel it coming and you're like, oh, that's what it is. And so we wrote this song and it. It. When I left there that day, I was so emotional. And I'm. I'm not an emotional person. I'm more emotional now than I used to be. But I'm not like a. I'm not a crier. I'm married to a crier, but I'm not that girl. But I got in the car and I was really emotional. And I think it was two things. I think one was obviously it was a song about my mom for me, so it was really emotional in that way. But also I realized I can do this. I didn't sit in the room. I contributed to that, you know, session. And I knew. I knew in that moment I. I can do this. And that was when the. You're not a songwriter went out the door. I don't. And I don't know. I can't explain why in one session. It wasn't like I gradually came to it. It was like, oh, no, that's not the truth. This is the truth.

[Bobby Bones]

Like that.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So tell me about the song then. It's about your mom.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It's about my mom. I mean, we made it to where it can be. You can make it to be for whatever. For. But it really just talks about. I don't need to. I don't need to see the calendar. I don't need to know the date. It's like you just. It's like you feel it in your bones. And my friends know not to call me. It's just. It's just me. When October settles in, it's a ballad we in. And it's just a very. It's a piano vocal. We end up putting just a four string thing on it. Really simple. And I just couldn't imagine what would come after that. On the.

[Bobby Bones]

On the record, how long ago did your mom die?

[Trisha Yearwood]

2011.

[Bobby Bones]

My. That. That feeling is mostly around my mom's birthday, more so than when she died. But I know, and I, like, I know exactly what you're talking about because it just feels. And I won't say different because nobody else feels it, but it just. There's just a feeling to. Around her birthday, like something really personal. And I'm not much of an external feeler, but I do get very externally feely around that time.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. And. And I think, you know, I'm not the person who likes to dwell on, like. I don't. I'm not sitting here going, because. And my mom's birthday was in November. So maybe it's the beginning of fall. Fall. And it all just kind of comes at the same time. But I'm not the person. Like, I don't want to. I. I don't want to. I don't want to just talk about who died this week. And I'm not that. I'm not that person. But I feel. And I. And I miss my mom and dad every day, but I feel them with me. I feel them with me. So I don't. I don't mourn them in a sad way every day at all, because I. I feel. I find joy in. In all of the things that are. Are me that I got from them. But I do think that you definitely feel it. When one of the string players on the session, he came in. I've known him for years. And he said. He just said. When? After he heard the song, he said, who did you lose? And I said, my mom. He goes, yeah, for me, it was my son. And he said, it's May for me. So I think there is that feeling. You don't. You're not. You're not looking for it. It just shows up.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I was at the Opry last night and at some friends in town that live in Indiana. And so they came in and I was kind of showing them around, and they were asking about Hee Haw, which I grew up watching Hee Haw. My girl, my grandma grew up watching Hee Haw. So I watched he haul. Did you do He Haw ever?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I did it once because that was.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, right when it was ending.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It was. And I was. They were done with the cornfield, so the. The cornfield became a mall.

[Bobby Bones]

Was it. It was this still over in the Opry, Bill. The other building. Right.

[Trisha Yearwood]

That was one I was probably on the last season. Cause it was ending. And I just did it the one time. And I don't even think I did any of the skits. I think I just performed.

[Bobby Bones]

What did you sing?

[Trisha Yearwood]

She's in Love. The boy. Because it was right in 91.

[Bobby Bones]

The Bobby cast. We'll be right back. This is the Bobby cast. You've been in Nashville through some seasons, including, like, the television show Nashville, which I. That's when I moved here, when that show was happening. Were you ever on that show?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yes, I did. I played Trisha Yearwood.

[Bobby Bones]

I played. I played myself, too. I literally played me.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. I was there for, like, five minutes. It was an award show. It was like a cma. And I went out to do a presenting thing that I was on there for just five minutes. What's interesting about that is before, long before Nashville, they did it. There was a show that I did. X's and O's was. Was the theme song for a pilot for a potential show about Nashville. And I think the show was called X's Nose. I can't remember. It might have been called Nashville, but it was. Pam Tillis was in it, Manuel was in it. I was not in it. But I. I sang that theme song for it. And then they didn't pick up. They did like a two hour movie and they didn't pick up the series. But it was really precursor to this show, which I loved. I thought. I thought it was a great postcard for tourism for Nashville.

[Bobby Bones]

Nashville, the show.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I thought the first few seasons were awesome.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because when it started, I was still in Texas. And then when it moved, when we moved here, it was like right in the prime of it. And it was. I. I had dabbled in acting. I'm not an actor, but they had put me in a couple things and then they had me play myself, but I had real life lines. And even, Even if you're playing yourself, it's weird.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It's very hard to be your. It's very hard even when you're playing yourself to say the lines.

[Bobby Bones]

Weird.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All the cameras were on me and I'm with all these seasoned pros and I'm. I like, don't want to let anybody down. I don't want to make them reshoot. I was so nervous playing me.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And that was a bizarre feeling to be nervous playing me because I was with. I was doing this. I seen with Connie. And I had like eight lines, so it was enough that I definitely could mess it up. And I felt like a baby bird. Like just a trembling, shaky little baby bird.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. It's weird because you're. You're playing yourself, but you're. You have to hit a mark. You have to look at a certain way. You're. You've got other people in the scene counting on you and you're saying lines that aren't that you didn't write even.

[Bobby Bones]

Though they're supposed to be from. Yeah, you're right. People are counting on me in a way that I don't. I count on me and I count on others to count on me. But I'm gonna lead it. Like that's everything that I do now.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That situation was not that. And I think that's why it was so uncomfortable for me.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, that's That's. That's a good point. I think I'm the same way. I mean, I'm a Virgo, so I had to control every situation anyway.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that what Virgo does?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, controlling. We're very detailed, and we're a little controlling, and we're perfectionists and.

[Bobby Bones]

How much do you believe this stuff?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I believe it. I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't you feel like anybody could just say they're. They have Virgo traits and be like, I'm a Virgo?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, I do. I do think that it's interesting if you. I don't. I'm not like a. I don't. I don't read my horoscope every day or anything. I'm not that girl. But I do think when you read about each one that you're. That you. You can see yourself in the. In what you are.

[Bobby Bones]

What are.

[Trisha Yearwood]

What are you? Do you know?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but I.

[Trisha Yearwood]

But I don't.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like what you just said. I'm a Virgo now. I identify as a Virgo. How about that?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, that's fine. Yes, you can totally.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm an Aries.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. My dad was an Aries.

[Bobby Bones]

But I mean, that just.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't either.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

It's fun.

[Trisha Yearwood]

People ask me what my enneagram number is. I don't know. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

See, I'm into that.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't know. I've taken the test a few times, and I'm different every time. But, see, I feel like I've got.

[Bobby Bones]

To be a number, but there's got to be a number for that. If you take it every time and you're different, you need your own, like, special number.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. I'm trying to impress the test, you know? You know that. You know, because the questions are like, would you do. How are you in this? And I'm like, am I. Am I really a good person? Do I check that? Am I five here, or am I two? Like, I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

People pleaser?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Are you people. Are you generally a people pleaser?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Generally, I'm getting better. Yeah. Because I was raised to not, you know, rock the boat. And I want everybody to be happy. And I don't like it when people aren't happy with me. But I'm also. I feel it when somebody's in a bad mood. I feel it in my body, and I hate that.

[Bobby Bones]

What about codependency? Do you ever fall into those traps?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I think so. I think I have all of it.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't think I did. I. As a matter of fact, I know I didn't. I know I wasn't a people pleaser professionally, but that's all I had. Right. I never had much of a personal life because it was block out everything personal because that hurts. And let's just chase professional and let's get out of the hole. And that's what I thought I was doing. But really I was just running away from the actual hole. Which ain't so bad when you address it. So. But forever I was like, I. Not a people pleaser at all. Then I met my wife. I was not codependent at all. Then I met my wife and I we go to couples counseling every other week and we've been going since we got married.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Which is great.

[Bobby Bones]

It's the greatest thing for us because it has taught me that everything uncomfortable doesn't mean don't touch it. Like that's really what I take away from those sessions.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I would just not want her to be mad and. Or sad or insert whatever emotion that wasn't positive. And it would affect me and in such a way that by it affecting me so much would affect her even more. And I really learned what codependency was through me getting married and never having anything personal that meant anything to me really. And then having something that meant everything to me and then having to adjust again. But it was the greatest adjustment.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I never had any sort of. I feel this towards anybody. Any personal cut anybody out, no problem.

[Trisha Yearwood]

But for me, the people pleasing thing is also not. Is. Is terrible for so many reasons. Because what I do is I will say yes to something I don't want to do or I will, you know, go along with something I don't want to go along with. But you're gonna know because I'm going to be passive aggressive about it. You know, that I don't like it. You know, instead of just saying, hey, that's just not me. I appreciate you asking, but can you.

[Bobby Bones]

Do that now though? Better?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I think I'm getting better. But I still do it. I still have to really fight it because there's that. My sister and I talk about this a lot. My sister's older than me and she's a few years older than me. And she has really had to fight the people pleaser gene because she. Because I. I at least got into the music industry and realized I'm a boss and I have to stand up for myself. I have to say what I need. I have to hire and fire People I have to. I had to learn. But she never did that. You know, she. She went to school and she has a PhD in animal nutrition. But she got married and had children and decided raising her children was her profession, which is honorable. So she's not had to have the confrontational things that I've had to do. I've learned every time I have the conversation, that's hard. I'm better for it.

[Bobby Bones]

Me too.

[Trisha Yearwood]

And I dreaded it forever, and it was always turned out. I'm glad I did it, but it's never easy.

[Bobby Bones]

And I still dread doing it, even though I know that it has always made me in some way better.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. And if you don't deal with whatever the thing is, it's going to keep coming. You don't. Until you learn the lesson. It keeps coming back around.

[Bobby Bones]

But I don't know that I've fully learned the lesson. Even though I know the lesson now, I don't know that I fully have learned it because I still am like, oh, man, sometimes I just don't want to do it.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, it. That's living, right? So you just get better at it and you work toward it. And hopefully by the, you know, in 20 years, you'll be like, I've got this down.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll be like, I'm so old. And somebody be like, dude, you're not that old. I'm like, well, Trisha, she's 60, acting like she die tomorrow.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I'm in an industry that's young, and I get. These girls are like, oh, I'm turning 40. I'm like, oh, it's such a cute age. Like, shut up.

[Bobby Bones]

I love the title. Fragile like a bomb. Yeah, the title. Where did the. Who had the title or did the title come up through the writing process?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I had the title. Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a quote that attributed to her about women. And she said, not. Not fragile like a flower, fragile like a bomb. And I just love that quote. And so we were. I was sitting with Chad Carlson, co writer, and Melissa Fuller, and we were talking about a friend of mine who I love dearly, who is successful in every way, but allows this guy that she dates to treat her not well and doesn't see the beauty and the glory, you know, in her. And. And I'm like. And I'm like, she's. It's like she's. She's. She seems like such a badass, but inside she's tender. She's fragile like a bomb. And they'd not heard the saying, and they're like we need to write that. And so that's kind of where it came from. And I love that song because it really talks about you just. You see her from the outside. She's this, she's just this amazing person. But you don't see the inside. You don't see how that she doesn't sleep at night. You don't see these things about her. You don't, you don't recognize how incredible she is. And that's kind of how that came about.

[Bobby Bones]

Final question. Name three things that you love that have nothing to do with cooking or music or family. Because I think those are obvious, especially with you. The cooking part. Mine wouldn't be cooking. But name three things you love that aren't those three.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Nature. Hiking. Why it's like meditation for me and that, that the dogs hold into that. I'm a animal freak. I worry about every animal in the world. You know, when I say my prayers at night, I'm praying for the deer out in the, you know, it's raining tonight, whatever. I'm that girl. So those two things go together. I love getting to watch my dogs on the trail because we hike about a three and a half mile trail. Get to just. They get six miles to my three. I love to see them get to be dogs and do their thing. That's one of my favorite things in the world. What else do I really love that has nothing to do with those things? I love to crochet.

[Bobby Bones]

To most people I know that love to crochet or knit or it's to, to get their mind off of things.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because it's focus.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that why?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

It feels very much like nature. When you said meditation, which is focus.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. Is.

[Bobby Bones]

So you love the focus of crocheting?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, I think so. And I used to, I started doing it in high school because somebody gave me a crochet kit and, and I just did it and it was fun. And then it was like, okay, I'm trying not to eat at night. So if I have a, if I have an afghan in my lap that I'm crocheting and my hands are moving, I'm not going to be eating potato chips at 10 o' clock at night. So it's also a tool for that. But it is a. I love it because it is a way to decompress where you can't, you can't, your mind just can't. Because my mind will just go to a million things. You have to focus on the project in front of you and you see Something for your effort, you know? Know, you're. You're seeing something being made. You're not. You know, you're not sitting there just playing a video game or something on your phone. You're actually doing something that is going to give you something at the end of it. So I like it for that, too.

[Bobby Bones]

So we got nature. We got crocheting.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah. Do dogs fit in there?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Okay.

[Trisha Yearwood]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

That's like family.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah, that. What else. What else do I like to do?

[Bobby Bones]

Mandy, you can't go to somebody else for what you like to do. That's.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Wait, the beach. Beach or pickleball.

[Bobby Bones]

You just use a lifeline on a question about you.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I did. I phoned a friend.

[Bobby Bones]

So the beach. You love the beach.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I saw you had a pickleball card. I did also love pickleball. The beach for me. And. And Gar says this about me. He goes like, you're like, I love being around you, but when you get to the beach, you're different. It's like I feel the weight just go off my shoulders. And when I was a kid, we would go to the beach for three days. My dad didn't like to be gone for more than three nights, four days. So we'd go to the beach and basically turn around and come home. You know, you weren't there very long. So I always felt like I got, like, a taste of the beach, but never got to really just be on the beach. So that is my happy place. That's kind of a recharge for me, is to just go. And I like to walk the beach. I like to look for shells, and I like, you know, sand dollars. Full sand dollars that are untouched or my favorite thing in the world. And just. Just the being and hearing the surf, like, all of that for me is like.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor and we on the Bobby cast. Are you able to sing any of your massive hits in another language?

[Trisha Yearwood]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you had to ever?

[Trisha Yearwood]

No, no. I've had to sing in a foreign language before, but not one of my songs I had to sing. I sang in Italy with Pavarotti, and we sang in Latin.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, what?

[Trisha Yearwood]

That was just a thing I did.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, what?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I know he did a. He used to do a. Every year. He had a charity event for war Children of Liberia. It was a big thing, and it was filmed, and I got invited one year, and it was me and, like, a couple of Spice Girls and, like, Vanessa Williams and Celine Dion and Bon Jovi. Like, it was A eclectic group of people. And me, and we sang oh Come All Ye Faithful. But we did it in. We. We sang in English and Latin adese fideles. And because he didn't speak English and I didn't speak Italian, and so we basically sang in Latin. It was wild. But it was cool. It was really cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it sounds really awesome.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It was really awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, he can sing.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It was amazing. And that was the moment. I.

[Bobby Bones]

He can sing, right? I mean, I know he. But is it like next level?

[Trisha Yearwood]

It is. It's. It's. It's his full body. I mean, it was like. I've never. I mean, I sang some operetta in college and I. It's a. It's a different. It's a. It's a way to use your voice in a completely different way, which most people can kind of mimic. If you're a singer, you can kind of do it a little. But to be a trained classical singer, like that is. I mean, the breathing and the using the diaphragm and everything is all the same. But there's something different and there's a special. There are people that just. Like any singer, there are people everybody can't be, you know, Whitney Houston, like, there's a specialness there. And he definitely had it.

[Bobby Bones]

That's really cool. That story just fell out of your pocket too.

[Trisha Yearwood]

It did, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so before we wrap up, we're gonna do one thing and we just leave this all in the very long form version of this, but so we're gonna play the Mirror on the national countdown show. And so what'll happen is I'll take a part of it and just put it in the show. And so I'm just gonna set you up so 45 seconds, which is a long time, but used in that capacity. Tell me about the Mirror before I play it.

[Trisha Yearwood]

The Mirror is a collection of songs that really represent every part of me there. There were a lot of songs I probably wrote. There's 15 songs on the CD. I probably wrote 75 songs in this couple of years time period. And I had to really go through and go, okay, there's so many songs to your younger self. You got to pick the ones that really, really resonate. So there are a lot of songs that are encouraging, I think, to the younger self that I can't wait for you to get here because you're gonna. You're gonna get it once you get to be. Once you get to be me. Now, two songs that talk about. I made these mistakes that I thought were Mistakes at the time, but I've now forgiven myself because you don't know till you know. And it's. This is where you are now. And so that's. That's part of the journey. And then the other part of the journey was there's a lot of. There's a big side of me that just likes to have fun. And so there are. Even. Even Bringing the Angels is a song that is. While being about a serious topic about, you know, like, I. I believe that my angels. I believe my mom and dad are in my corner, you know, helping me out down here. But it's a. It's a. It's a badass. Like, you know, I'm gonna roll up my sleeves, like, bring it. Because I. I've got an army behind me. I like that. And then there's a couple songs, like, Drunk Works. I almost didn't put on the record because it's really about girls going out and having too much to drink. But it's fun. And then there's a song called the Shovel that is. That is just a fun song about going to the Waffle House with your significant other. And he cannot. He says the wrong thing, and he just keeps saying the wrong thing, and he can't dig out of the hole. And that's a fun one too. So it's a. It's a journey of song to your younger self. But kind of all of my. There's a lot of people in here, and I guess they're all represented.

[Bobby Bones]

What about this song, the Mirror? Why. Why did you name the whole record after the song? Tell me about the song.

[Trisha Yearwood]

The Mirror is the. Seemed like the perfect title because in. For the first time in my career, it truly is a record, a full album of reflection. It really is an album of, like, this is who I am. This is who I've been. And the mirror talks about that. How hard we are on ourselves. And I will say women, but men and women too. We're so hard on ourselves, we pick ourselves apart. And if you can kind of figure out how to. The hook line is, I've always. You've always been the girl in the mirror. It's like she sees herself and she's like, oh, she looks good. I like what she's doing. And you don't realize that's me. I'm just. I'm so used to picking myself apart. Like you talked about earlier, being. Being able to say you're proud and looking at your career and your life from a different perspective. If we could see ourselves outside Ourselves. We would like ourselves a lot more. We just have to. We have to. We work so hard on pulling ourselves apart so that the Mirror. That song is really about. You're. You're okay. And you. You need to. I've always seen what you're now finally seeing.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, final question. That's brilliant, by the way. You nailed that.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Right in the countdown. We have to edit that, take it, and put it right in there. What are you gonna do the rest of the day? Are you done now?

[Trisha Yearwood]

I'm not done. I am leaving to go do. To go do another interview where I talk about my album. Then I'm going over to Friends in Low Places, this bar that I co. Own, and I'm doing another interview, but I'm talking with some of the songwriters on the record. We're going to do a piece for the Tennessean.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you're right in the middle of it.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I am.

[Bobby Bones]

How many days are you doing in a row of this?

[Trisha Yearwood]

This is just today.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll be all in one day.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I'll get out of bed tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. I like to kind of do it all. I like to do it all when I'm working. I like to work. And we're gearing up because when the album comes out, July 18th, that's. That's the week that is going to be crazy for a couple weeks.

[Bobby Bones]

It's going to be crazy whenever. If I have to do any sort of satellite tour and you just go from one city to the next, you sit in one chair. You've done this more times than I have. But you sit in one chair and you just go interview to interview. And sometimes you don't even see the people. You just hear their voices, and you do seven, eight minutes. I will forget what questions I've even answered in that segment.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And have to start worrying if I'm doubling up. Are you at that phase of the day yet?

[Trisha Yearwood]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, good.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Not yet.

[Bobby Bones]

Awesome. I mean, if you were, I'd be like, I feel you. I. I totally understand. Well, I always love having you around.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Well, thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Aside from the same.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Same. It's been a while.

[Bobby Bones]

It has been. We haven't even been recording this. Are you ready to hit record, Mike?

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All right.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I'm ready. I'm totally ready.

[Bobby Bones]

Congratulations on the record. Mostly because. Congratulations on the record to you.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Thank you. I'm really. I'm really happy and I. You probably don't have a CD player anymore, but I don't have the vinyl yet, but I brought you a CD so you can go to somebody's car and listen to it if you want to. I know you've heard it, but.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, I've heard it, but I'm thinking when you asked that. But I heard it through a digital link.

[Trisha Yearwood]

I don't have a CD player in my car. I have a cd.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm like, where do I even find a cd? I know. I want it. I want it for the aesthetic.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I should have put it up on the table, but. Yeah, I don't. I don't know where the. Right. Ed. I'm gonna keep it, though.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. All right, you guys, the mirror. Check it out. Trisha, always great to see you. What I'm going to do from this, though, is I'm going to get that meatloaf mix.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yes. If it's that good, use it with your Impossible burger.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. If it's that good, we're in. Because we always look for new ways. For me not to eat red meat, but for me to trick myself into thinking I'm eating red meat.

[Trisha Yearwood]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And if that's the way to go, that's what we're going to do. All right, that's it. Thanks for listening to a Bobby Kast production.

[Trisha Yearwood]

This is an I Heart podcast.