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Drew McIntyre
Just go on the Internet and Google his name and get the character witness reports of the people that know him. He's a Genuine piece of crap and get the character witness reports of me. I only ever tried to help people and help people and encourage people to chase their dreams and learn from my mistakes. He's absolute trash.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Hey guys, Bobby here. We're going to talk with WWWE superstar Drew McIntyre and I don't know much about Scotland. Never been to Scotland. We talk about food and everybody comes from a place that has interesting food. What they eat in Scotland, to me, no, I had never heard of this before. So we'll get into food, we'll get into his parents. Obviously I'm a big wrestling fan and we didn't talk wrestling the whole time. Like I'm always curious to know, like how much do you have to eat? What do you eat? What were your parents like? And so we do this a lot with Drew McIntyre. He's the chosen one. He was the chosen one and then he had a full on comeback story. Winning multiple world titles, headlining Wrestlemania. We're getting ready for WrestleMania 42, which is coming up April 18th and 19th. If you're watching this when it comes out, it'll be coming up this weekend. But one of the biggest stars in WWE joining us right now is. Here he is, my conversation. He's a monster, by the way. Big dude, like on tv. He's humongous, but he's against other humongous people. He's humongous. Here he is, WWE's Drew McIntyre. Drew, good to see you.
Drew McIntyre
Good to see you, buddy.
Bobby (Interviewer)
We haven't met before. How tall are you?
Drew McIntyre
I am six foot five and a half and it is the half inch that makes all the difference, I hear.
Bobby (Interviewer)
When did you start growing as a kid? Were you a large kid?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, I was always tall. It's not like America where there's a lot of athletes who are tall. There is very few people in Scotland that grow as quick as me. And I was very tall, very skinny. I was always put in the back of the school photos. I got a bit of a complex about it. If you see the school photos from age 4 onwards, I'm always in the back row. I'm always head and shoulders above everyone. Girls grow faster than guys. So there's a couple of girls that are up to my chin maybe and then eventually I just disappear out the shot.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Was your dad a large man?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, he was always called Big Andy. Growing up, he was 6 foot 3 and the kind of largest man of the family. The doctors, I don't know how they figured this out. The doctors. I told my parents that I'm gonna be Huge. One day my brother's gonna be pretty tall. And I kind of stuck with that my whole life. And whenever I'd hear my dad call Big Andy, I told him, one day I'm gonna be Giant Drew. I'm also Andrew McLean Galloway. That's my real name, by the way. I'm Drew McIntyre in the wrestling, but Drew Galloway in real Life, I'm Andrew McLean Galloway IV. So my dad goes by Andy, I go by Drew, he goes by Big Andy, I go by Giant Drew.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I also have a name that's not my real name. My name's Bobby, but Bones is not my real last name.
Drew McIntyre
Oh, really?
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yeah. My real last name is Estelle, and most people didn't know that until my wife, because my wife, she uses her real name. Our real name.
Drew McIntyre
Yep.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And so. But she's. She didn't want to go by Kaitlyn Bones because she thought sounded stupid. So she's our name. Is that. Is it weird for you? And do you have people that only know you as your original name, like your family?
Drew McIntyre
No, I mean, Drew's been my name my whole life, so everyone basically just calls me Drew. But your last name, but the Galloway? No. I mean, very few people even mention it now. Even, like, in the bank or whatever. Like, WWE's got so big now, like, especially with ESPN, Netflix and the likes. People like Mr. McIntyre, wherever I go and I slide over my information, they're like, oh. And they're disappointed. It's like, I'm sorry, this is my real name. But, you know, I have a real life outside the wrestling, you know?
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yeah, people will do that, too. Sometimes they'll look at mine and be like, oh, your name really isn't Bones. Like, they're. Yeah, they're a little.
Drew McIntyre
Exact same moment. My wife's name's Klin as well. That's interesting.
Bobby (Interviewer)
How long you been married?
Drew McIntyre
Been married for nine years now.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Did you guys move to Nashville together?
Drew McIntyre
Yes. Yes. That's a fun story right there. We lived in St. Petersburg, Tampa area for. My goodness. How long did we live there? We'd been together about 13 years, so we probably spent about good eight, nine years there. We've been here almost five years. Somebody doing the math real quick. And we just decided we needed a change. And one of the fellow wrestlers, Irishman Seamus, had moved here and kept chipping away at me, trying to move state, and I didn't want to move anywhere. I was like, I'm fine. Got the palm trees, the sunshine. I know on Christmas Day, it'd be nice to have Christmas weather, but 100 degrees is fine. Whatever. It's better weather than Scotland. And my wife is from West Virginia. She wanted the seasons and so he started chipping away at her instead. And she convinced me to move. Like with the rest of them. We can live anywhere. As long as it's a tax free state, I'm happy about it. And we made the move. We got an rv. Most of our stuff went on the trucks, but we got an RV so we could transport our cats, you know, they're our kids. And we made it as far as Perry, Georgia with her driving. And then old master of the driving here, old Drew, got a license to America. I couldn't drive when I was back in the uk. I probably shouldn't be driving. I'm still figuring it out. After years and years. I was leaving the gas station in the massive RV. The 15 foot RV and the back of it caught the side of the. I don't know what you call it, but the gas pumps, and thank goodness some have the metal around them. Thankfully it had metal around this particular one because I've hit something and that's weird. So instead of stopping, I put my foot down. It's like pushing through it. And I ripped right through the back of the rv, tore through the side of the tire, and we got stuck in the gas station that night because of me in Perry, Georgia. And as the night went on, some unsavory characters showed up. Some fights were breaking out in the gas station. I called AAA and asked, can you send some help? I said, well, you don't have, you know, like van insurance, truck insurance or whatever. I was, oh, can I get some? I was, oh, absolutely. You know, sign up and it'll kick in in like three days. Well, I need it right now. And it's like a Saturday or something going into Sunday. I was like, well, we can't do anything for you. Go screw yourself. So I called around, nobody could help. So we had to spend the night there. And yeah, yeah, she was pretty, pretty upset with me. But eventually we got to Nashville and we love it.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Did you sleep in the RV that night?
Drew McIntyre
I slept almost instantly. She basically said, this is your fault. I'm gonna take the cats to the bed. You stay up and guard with no problem. And I think I have like my old form of narcolepsy, which is great considering my job and traveling 52 weeks a year can always sleep. But yeah, I fell asleep instantly and had her shaking me to wake up. There's somebody peering through the window and there was and yeah, yeah, I got a lot of. Got a lot of crap for that.
Bobby (Interviewer)
How do you like living in Nashville?
Drew McIntyre
Love it. Yeah. Yeah. This is the closest to Scotland that I've stayed in America. I lived in Louisville, Kentucky. It was a bit of a shock moving straight from my parents house in university to America. When I was 21 turning 22, I lived in Mandeville, Louisiana briefly. And I lived in Tampa, which was fun. You know, your 20s, early 30s, whatever. Tampa's great, that's where you want to be. But eventually, you know, the wife chipped away about the seasons thing. But when I moved here and I actually kind of got out away from. We're 20 minutes outside of Nashville, the Mount Juliet area. But suddenly it was greenery. The personalities are friendly. Everyone you know is around here felt more like Scotland with a lot more guns.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Do the police have worried about.
Drew McIntyre
I walked in here, by the way, if anyone's ever come to this studio, you get instructions, walk into the lobby and there's like three options. And I was looking around like, which door do I go in? Because if I walk into somebody's house, people have guns here. If a large man walking into someone's house, I'm gonna get taken out.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Do the police officers have guns in Scotland? Nobody is that crazy to even ask, is that.
Drew McIntyre
I mean, I'm so used to it now because I've been in America so long. I'm an American citizen and I have many, many guns. So don't come in my house. But at the same time, Scotland, there's just literally zero there. There was a tragedy called Dunblane when I was a kid. A lot of kids were killed and just even guns that farmers had, et cetera, were just taken out completely. So it's not something I was ever around or talked about. Aside playing cops and robbers. When you were a kid.
Bobby (Interviewer)
When I was growing up in Arkansas, the meal that we had was chicken fried steak. That was my favorite meal. It was a very southern meal. What is the meal? If I were to ask you about being a child in Scotland, what's home food
Drew McIntyre
like stoveys? Mince and tatties. Mince and potatoes. Like mashed up potatoes and you know, like beef kind of mashed up. And mix it all, mix it all together with the gravy and carrots.
Bobby (Interviewer)
So all mashed?
Drew McIntyre
Oh yeah, all mashed together. Mince and tatties. Tatties or potatoes. And then if you want to go, stereotypical people out there going, damn it, Drew, say haggis, you're Scottish. Talk about haggis? Yes. I like haggis and chicken. You cut open the chicken, put the haggis in there.
Bobby (Interviewer)
What's haggis?
Drew McIntyre
What is haggis? You never heard of haggis?
Bobby (Interviewer)
No, I haven't. Is it a hash brown?
Drew McIntyre
No.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Could you say potato?
Drew McIntyre
No, no. Let me fill you in. Does everyone always talk to me about haggis? I just assume. Everyone assumes. We still run around in kilts eating haggis and drinking whiskey in the Highlands. Have you heard of televisions? We invented it. Ever heard of television? Haggis is basically all the parts of the sheep boiled in its stomach and then you eat it. And there's another fine delicacy. I like to introduce my wife to this stuff and not tell her what it is. Black pudding. It was one of my favorite breakfast items. She was like, what's that? And I was like, just try it before I tell you what is it. I was like, try it. She tries it. Do you like it? She's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I like it. So what is it? Dried blood? Black pudding. Very nice.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Of what? Sheep?
Drew McIntyre
You know what I never clarified. We could probably Google it right now. Someone over there can check it out. But yeah, pig blood.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Pig blood, yeah.
Drew McIntyre
Get that into you. Put hairs in your ass.
Bobby (Interviewer)
But there's. Can you tell me more about what that is?
Drew McIntyre
I mean, also in the uk there's a lot more health and safety standards for the food. So it's all right, you can give out bashing or there and I guarantee.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And that's just what you had as kids, right?
Drew McIntyre
Oh, yeah. I didn't think twice about it. And if I was put in front of me, we had to eat. I didn't come from much money. We felt like we had everything we needed and our parents made us feel that way. And everyone around me was kind of a similar situation growing up. But yeah, it was ever put in front of you, you had to eat it.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Your parents did what for a living?
Drew McIntyre
My dad growing up, worked in a fire surround company where they sold just a bunch of different furniture and the likes and it eventually closed down and now works in a prison in Russia. Runs their canteen. Scottish prisons, especially the private prisons, sound like paradise. To be honest, listening to him doesn't even sound like prison. And my mother, by the time we were born, she actually was born with a very rare. She wasn't born with a condition. She developed a very rare condition in her early 20s. It's more common these days. Cerebellum ataxia. Basically the balanced portion of her brain died. And it happened in her early 20s, late teens. Exactly. But she had a regular job. She'd left school. She was coming home on the bus one day, and her legs just stopped working. And an older couple had to help her back. My nana retired and started taking her from doctor to doctor, trying to figure out what was wrong with her. At that time, only small dogs really developed this condition. Shaky eyes, shaky hands, and she walked like she was drunk. And they finally found a doctor in London that was able to kind of stabilize the condition, but they knew so little about it. She was told, you'll never have a normal life, obviously, potentially never have kids. And the likes. Met my dad, and when she got pregnant, was told the same thing as at the time. There was such limited knowledge about it. And my nana, who was my second mother growing up, she was always there to help. Cause my mother had to kind of use the walls to balance. Didn't let anything stop her. She would balance out the backyard and hang up the laundry. She would balance down one wall with the food for my brother and I. We'd never help because she made it so normal. She's like a superhero. And my friends would run around and help her. What's wrong with you two? And I was like, well, this is what she does. But when she got told they probably shouldn't have this kid, my nana said, you probably shouldn't have this kid. She was like, I'd rather die. And it had me. And it inevitably had my brother as well, who was 16 months between the two. Was. And grew up making us feel like we could do anything. Because she was born with this rare affliction where she couldn't leave the house. But she did everything she possibly could in the house. And eventually, when I did the wrestling, was the first ever wrestler assigned from Scotland to do the WWE. Go from a country of 5 million people to that big American company, The only ever Scottish or British WWE champion of all time. Like, okay, what gave you the motivation? How did you pull it off? I was like, fat, easy. I had a superhero for a mother.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Wow. Is there any relation to you? I don't know if you're kidding about the narcolepsy thing.
Drew McIntyre
No. I mean, I sleep very easy. I'm not legitimately diagnosed with it, but I'm convinced. Maybe some very mild version. But I think I'm so relaxed all the time. It's like a kind of a gift, I guess. In our job, in a very stressful environment, I'm always able to stay calm in every situation. Like, I did a movie even though I was 20. It's been a whole lifelong thing with 300 extras. Was screaming above a Scottish castle. And I was a guard for Malcolm McDowell. And when I was in a particular shot, I'd just lie against the wal and fall asleep. My buddy was like, I keep watching you fall asleep against the wall. How can you do that? I was like, because I'm tired, so I just go to sleep. So there's 300 people screaming. I was like, as far as I'm concerned, I can always just go to sleep if I want to.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Are your parents still alive?
Drew McIntyre
My mother passed, unfortunately in 2012, she inevitably developed cancer along with all the other stuff. But she fought right through it. Every time I wanted to go home, she told me, you keep chasing that dream. Don't you dare come back. Which sucked. But I was there know when she passed and hit my dad hard for a while. He went through some real tough times and his personal life, but he eventually found his current wife, Jane, and they're very happy together and don't have to worry about them all the time.
Bobby (Interviewer)
What success did your mom get to see from you?
Drew McIntyre
I mean, she saw me make wwe. She saw me become Intercontinental Champion, obviously one of her main titles in WWE. At 24 years old, I was announced as the chosen one. The kind of future of WWE unfortunately had a bit of a downturn in the old career. You know, opportunities weren't quite there. But during the period, I've been honest about it, I've got my book, My Chosen Destiny, available now. Go get it. And many other interviews where I've talked about when she got sick, I started drinking too much and acting out in ways like that, not dealing with it very well. And when she passed, I was just off the deep end, burning the candle at both ends, throwing gasoline on the candle itself. So she saw right up to the good success. My first run saw a little bit of a downturn, but she was always very positive. I can't believe. Believe you're still in wwe. You're living your dream. Like, even when she was sick, don't you dare come home. You keep living your dream, you keep pushing, and you achieve everything you're supposed to achieve, because I believe you can be one of the best of all time. She always believed in me in that way and believed I could be the man. But I was again, not dealing with her being sick. She was my favorite person in the world, my hero. So I was not dealing with it very well. I'm such a mummy's boy growing up to the point I moved to America, these bills were piling up. These bills were piling up. These bills were piling up. I was like, what is going on? I was like, I did that for you. You have to learn how you do it yourself. And, oh, my God, I'm incapable of too much of a mommy's play. So, yeah, so that was a tough period. But I know she was always there with me, even during the tough times. And I had to. And I got fired inevitably, when I was 29 and I had to in WWE, if I told them what was going on, if they understood how bad I was dealing with things, they would have gave me the time off. But I kept it inside and no one really knew, aside my close friends, how bad I was dealing with things. And it was the best thing in the world could have happened to me was getting fired. I wasn't under the microscope anymore. I'd met my wife, Caitlin, at the time. It wasn't good. And we got our first apartment together. Technically, when I got fired, she was like, oh, my God, what are we going to do for money? And I was like, don't worry if we're going to figure this out. And I still believed, like, she believed I could be the One of the top guys or not the top wrestler on planet Earth. This is the one thing I know better than anything. And I was able to rebrand myself outside of the company, use social media, and that was in 2014. And social media was getting so big at the time, but I knew I could take the fans on a journey and show them the version of myself that I believed I should be, as opposed to what I was being presented as in WWE at the time. And my name grew and grew and grew, and things were going amazing. Amazing. I became champion all across different countries in the world, specifically in Scotland. The show I returned to had about a thousand people. And then the next show, the big one at 2000, then the next big one was 4000. The next big one was 7000. We just kept growing this business with myself as the centerpiece, but I was still drinking too much. So eventually, as things were going well, my wife said to me, drew, you gotta check your head that you're going to crash and burn. I was like, babe, look what's going on. Everything's going great. The numbers don't lie. I'm running myself into the. You've been patient. I appreciate that. But look how well we're doing. We're able to buy our first house not in wwe. We're able to buy the car, we're able to save, invest, create our retirement accounts outside of wwe. That's unheard of at this point. My brother told me, become a verb to do a drew, become more of a success outside of wwe. And she was, no. The way you're living your life, and if you don't cut it out, I'm going to end up leaving you as well. So she had that talk with me, and I also broke my neck at the time. It sounds worse than it is. It was T2 and T3 break non displaced. So all I had to do was wear a neck cast. Eight weeks. But it slowed me down for the first time in my life, like I'd never had a break my entire life. No pun intended. But I'd gone straight from school, straight to university, straight to wwe. Fired straight back on the road, rebranding myself in this eight weeks. I sat there, I thought about what she said. I looked myself in the mirror and I said, she's right. I got to cut the negative aspects out of my life. You know, she's, you know, not dealing with it well. My mom wouldn't be happy with me, and I'm not happy with me. That's what it comes down to. If you want to make real change in your life, you have to be the one that wants to make the change. And I looked at WWE and I said, okay, that's where I want to be. I want to be back in wwe. I want to be top of the card. Who's the biggest draw in the company? Brock Lesnar. He's an animal. He's an absolute beast of a man. If I'm going to go toe to toe with him, do I believe I can beat him up right now? And I looked in the mirror and I thought, honestly, no. I'm six' five, but I'm not the size I am right now. I was probably about 235, 240. Not a great 235, 240. Like maybe relative to the average Joe. Yes. But no, not Brock Lesnar. I got to improve my verbal game. He had Paul Heyman one of the best speakers. And in Pro wr, you have to be able to articulate yourself well all the time. We get live fans, they give you real time feedback, what's working, what's not working. You have to be able to ad lib on the fly. And with people like Paul Heyman, you have to have a good back and forth in front of a live crowd. Keep within your characters, keep within your time and entertain that audience. I gotta get better. So after that, I changed my diet, I changed my training, I cut out the drinking, I started getting on the microphone every show in the independence. And I saw the difference. Like just overnight, my body changed, my skills in the mic, my confidence grew, and within a few months I had Triple H on the phone asking me come back to wwe. And I went through my journey. When I was back in wwe, to the point I won a big event called the Royal Rumble, which gives you a shot at the title or main event, which is coming up soon. WrestleMania. And I challenged Brock Lesnar for the title. So I sat down in the locker room one day after I won the Royal Rumble, after I challenged Brock Lesnar and I saw the image on the screen, Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar for the WWE title and Paul Heyman in the corner. 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Bobby (Interviewer)
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Bobby (Interviewer)
And we're back on the Bobby cast. Who is your favorite athlete as a kid in Scotland?
Drew McIntyre
I mean, y' all might not know him, but Ali McCoist is his name. He's a very famous Scottish soccer player, football player.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Did you ever want to play soccer?
Drew McIntyre
I did. I played soccer till I was 16. That was the big sport in my area.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Were you above average great soccer player?
Drew McIntyre
Certainly above average. I mean, at the time I believed I was amazing, but I had like friends who were like really, really good and they weren't getting opportunities with the big clubs. So I was okay, you gotta work harder at this. So I did. I always put the time in things I wanted to get better at. But at the same time I just had this, the back of my mind that pro wrestling, pro wrestling, pro wrestling. And even as a kid, oh, Since I was 5, I put the story in my book like I said to my dad and family, you know, I gathered a family meeting after I saw it on TV for the first time and said, I'm gonna be a wrestler one day. And I only know this because my dad has told me about it. And kids say the darndest things. You know, I'm going to be an astronaut. I'm going to play for an America, play for an American football team, a baseball team. I'm going to ride a dinosaur professionally and kill you kids. And I was like, with a wrestler. And I never deviated from that since I was a kid. By the time I was 11, I was like, mom, I need to go at training. I need to go to training. I'm way behind on the wrestling thing. And at 15, I finally convinced her to let me go to a wrestling school that was 12 hours away from Ayr, Scotland, in Portsmouth, England. Three different train changes. Had to take the train down there. And she finally, finally agreed. Okay, if you pay for it, if I can talk to the trainer, if I can keep constant updates on the basic cell phones of the time, I'll let you go if you go with one of your friends. My friend Craig. We went down together, the 12 hour journey. We spent a week there for personal training. We did the 12 hour journey back then. After that, I was hooked. I would go down as often as I could. Easter holidays, summer holidays. They'd have three day camps, week long camps. If my mom would give me the money, my nana would give me the money. I was down there learning to wrestle. And then myself and a bunch of guys started a wrestling school in Scotland because there was none at the time. And I would train them what I was learning in England. Then we started shows when I was 16 and that was about the time I had to make the choice. I'm going to keep going with the football, real football, the one you keep with your feet. The World Cup's coming soon, by the way, or the wrestling. And obviously I chose wrestling. And I stand by that because I worked out in the end.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Were you a good student?
Drew McIntyre
I was a pretty good student. I was like very much, highly. Wrestling, Wrestling, wrestling, wrestling. But I was always, I have to get my grades. I have to make sure I have this education behind me. If I tried harder, I guarantee you it would have been straight A's. I was very much like an A here, B there, a couple of Cs there, and I would always pass. I would study the night before. Most exams, when I say most exams, like in high school, I studied for all the Exams the night before. It was a miracle that I got through it. Passed them all, went to university, got my degree in criminology. And thanks to all the girls in my course because I was gone a lot during that wrestling, I'd vanish, missed classes here and there and they always had the notes for me. And as long as I had the notes, I was always able to retain contain the information. And education thankfully came pretty easy to me beside maths and chemistry and the likes. As soon as I put the Alphabet beside numbers, I was like, screw that. But I always figured, Rick and Rick and Morty. School doesn't seem like a place for smart people. It just seemed pretty easy. As long as you retain information and regurgitate the information, it's like, fine, I can retain information. That's easy.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Why criminology?
Drew McIntyre
I saw my guidance counselor in high school and we kind of talked about what I want to study at uni and what do you want to do next? And I was okay, I'm going to go to university because I'm waiting to be in the wwe. I'm too young right now. They were like, okay, let's pretend you're not going to do that. But I am. Wouldn't even deviate from it. I knew I had to believe it myself or it would never happen. I said, okay, let's just assume that you are going to do it, but you need to do something in the meantime. Then Drew, okay, let's do that. So what about this? I mean, I've got a pretty good aptitude for business studies and it was always straight A's for that area. I was like, it's kind of boring. I just can't imagine myself doing it at that high level because what's it going to do for me in the future? And we just started going through courses and finally she mentioned criminology. There's a new course at Glasgow Caledonian University. It's a short bus ride from my parents house. I wouldn't have to move anywhere. I could still stay at home, I could still go down there and I could still stick to my gym, keep my training up for the wrestling. And I was always a massive X Files fan as a kid. I was like, oh, okay. When I was really young, I wanted to play for Glasgow Rangers, my soccer team. I wanted to be a professional wrestler in wwe and I wanted to be the Moulder and the X Files. All right, this gets me along those lines. And again, we don't have time to tell the stories that I've got. But when I Was a kid, it was really weird. I've told this story a few times. It's out there, but When I was 10, 11 years old, I had a subscription to a magazine. It was called the X Factor. It had paranormal in there, UFOs, strange diseases. I read about Ebola when I was that age and stuff. And it had a sample letter for the FBI. Freedom of Information Act. If you send to this request the documents you want, they'll send them to you. So I took my pocket money, requested Roswell documents, project Blue Book documents and sent that my pocket money. My dad was waiting for me when I got home from school. I had dossier about 5 inches thick. I was like, dad, why are you home? You're Never home at 3:00 in the afternoon. Here's home. About 6 or 7 he went, Son, why are the FBI in America sending you these documents? Because I asked for them, son. He kept saying, in America, why are the Federal Bureau of Investigation in America sending you my 11 year old son these documents, son? The up and up, Dad, I use my pocket money. It's under the Freedom of Information act now give me, give me, give me. He was like, just go outside and be normal. I was like, like I am at first. Took my documents. So yeah, I was a very, very strange kid. I was such a target for bullying, but I was too big to bully. I feel bad for those bullies. Love wrestling. Love it.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Do you still have an interest in UFOs?
Drew McIntyre
Oh yeah. I mean I still see the stuff going on. It's just funny. No one else does. There's just so much, so much stuff coming out right now and so many clear videos there. Yeah, obviously there's a lot of, a lot more out there and I've always believed that. I just understood through my magazine subscription as a kid that if you find out too much, you're going to vanish. So maybe focus on that wrest. But it's all coming out now.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And there have been nine scientists disappear.
Drew McIntyre
That's kind of scary, that stuff. Yeah.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Like either dead or missing.
Drew McIntyre
Yep.
Bobby (Interviewer)
All involved in, you know, physics, aeronautics and they're either, you know, the leaders of their groups or researchers within the group. Nine?
Drew McIntyre
Yep. And people are finally starting to pay attention to the information that's coming out. I don't know if they would keep releasing videos like the, you know, like fire pilots seeing things that planes cannot do and why does nobody care about this? I know the pilots look to say we can't do this. And everybody's like, did you see the Latest. I always use the Kardashians and examples. Sorry. Because they're not quite relevant now. But I've seen where the Kardashians did this week or whoever rally TV or whatever nonsense is viral. I was like, what about the one over here about the planes or things are doing things that we can't do.
Bobby (Interviewer)
The thing that's going faster than any object we've ever created with no propulsion at all.
Drew McIntyre
Yep. Defying physics coming out the water.
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Bobby (Interviewer)
Defying physics in like three times three. Like we have the ability to know up to a certain point, but these things are going three, four times as fast as anything we've ever created.
Drew McIntyre
Stopping on a day.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yes. And again with no, no, no trail.
Drew McIntyre
Nope. I mean, it's fairly obvious at this point. You're an idiot if you don't believe. I've always felt that way. But obviously things are shaped the way they're shaped for a reason. To make people feel the way they feel. And it worked for decades and decades. But just look for the proof, look for the evidence. It's pretty simple. If you take five minutes and do your own research. Even as I say, as an 1112 year old, I was so into it and I got to the point where I was like, okay, this is obviously real, but what am I going to do about it? If I find out too much, maybe I disappear. So let's say focus on the wrestling thing. And it worked out just fine for me going down this route. And everyone else is starting to open their eyes now the way I felt when I was 11, 12 years old.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I feel like they're slow rolling us a little where like what you're talking about. More and more is coming out, but little by little. So. And it's everywhere now. And there are documentaries. The Age of Disclosure came out excellent. And you had real, real, like real scientists. Not people, not.
Drew McIntyre
Not government officials. Government scientists.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Drew McIntyre
Pilots. People testifying in Congress.
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Drew McIntyre
Asking can we please release this information to the public? I think they're ready to handle it. And yeah. Makes it's a little bit easier to. To show somebody. Go and check this out. As opposed to one of the. Who's the one guy. It goes. Aliens did it with a crazy hair.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Bob Lazar is a. Has put. Put out a documentary just in the past couple of days. You know, he's a guy. He's the guy that worked down there.
Drew McIntyre
Yep.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And has like seen it all. Yeah. I feel like that documentary. I'm really into it. Oh yeah. I'm really into it.
Drew McIntyre
I can tell. Age of disclosure is the best one I've ever seen.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I agree.
Drew McIntyre
Because legitimacy and credibility, they're all credible.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Everyone in that documentary is credible. And to me, the, you know, the wild part is when they talk, they explain why we don't release information because we don't want our adversaries to know what we have. Meaning if we have found spacecraft, whatever you want to call it, and it's advanced and we're trying to reverse engineer it, we don't want Russia or China to know what we do or don't have in case they have. In case they have more or less than us.
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, makes sense. Imagine everybody just got on the same page and live in harmony. It's just all right. Forgetting don't want them to know what we have and they don't want to know what we have. Is that'll be our kid. They don't. They'll take over as a cat. We're only alive for a finite amount of time, guys. Let's just all get along. Jesus.
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Bobby (Interviewer)
This is the Bobby Cast. How much do you eat a day?
Drew McIntyre
Lots. What I'm supposed to eat doesn't always happen, but generally when I'm on the road, it's harder to stick to, but I get close to it. 6,200 calories.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And is that 6,200 clean calories?
Drew McIntyre
Yep, as close as I can get to clean calories. There'll be things like sweet potato fries, etc. There, but it's the kind of cleanest version of that that I buy from the store my trainer recommends.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Does it feel like a job eating?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah. When I eat 600 calories, like that's the only way I can stay at like right now I'm probably about £275. That's what I want to go into Wrestlemania as I wrestle very athletic style. So I like to keep my, my cardio good, but the size good, et cetera. So 275 is about right. But in order to maintain this weight, I have to eat basically that every day or I fade away. My metabolism, even, you know, 40. Right now my metabolism is through the roof.
Bobby (Interviewer)
What do you think your natural weight would be if you just ate normally?
Drew McIntyre
I'd say about 230. Wow. Really? I dropped weight like crazy. Like when I'm sick, I can drop like £15, £20 in a week. It's just unreal how quick it falls off me. I feel bad for. Everyone's got the exact opposite problem. They go, it must be so hard. I was. Is to gain the weight is really hard, but at the same time, if you it was, you know, harder to lose the weight, I'd probably be more, more upset.
Bobby (Interviewer)
If you're wrestling and you have a match with somebody that you genuinely dislike.
Drew McIntyre
Oh yeah, CM Punk.
Bobby (Interviewer)
But is that genuine though?
Drew McIntyre
Oh yeah. He's a genuinely terrible, terrible person. I grew up around him. If anyone, you know, doesn't know him out there, just Google him. I used to say this to the fans cuz CM Punk was gone from WWE for 10 years because he couldn't hack it. So he quit even though WWE gave him everything and all the wrestlers that made him look good and lost to him and made him a big giant star and made him millions of dollars. He turned on everybody, left, took his ball and went home like absolute piece of crap. He came back to the company and then everybody's cheering him because I've been chanting his name for years, because he is very much like Charles Manson, where he can just convince these fans he's a good person, he's a messiah, and they buy into it. And I'm like, good for him. Like he's a talent, much like Charles Manson. He's a talent to get in people's heads and just make them do what he wants them to do so they would cheer him. And they started turning on me a little bit. And I was always the. The Scottish warrior, the hero. I kind of, you know, held. They say, hell, wwe, we all did it. But I was the champion during COVID during the Pandemic, when nothing else was on tv, I was the one holding it together. I was like, guys, we can get through this together. I'll be, you know, your warrior. I'll never give up on you. And I tried never to give up on the fans. Even though at that point they started choosing this other guy and cheering this other guy and kind of booing me. I was like, guys, I thought it was your guy. This kind of hurts my feelings. Like, I've went through hell for you and this guy doesn't care about you. And as time went on, I talked about facts earlier. I deal in facts. I said, just go on the Internet and Google his name and get the character witness reports of the people that know him. He's a genuine piece of crap. And get the character witness reports of me. I only ever tried to help people and help people and encourage people to chase their dreams and learn from my mistakes. He's absolute trash. And it made for compelling tv. We ended up having a very entertaining rivalry on tv. We went back and forth in the microphone. He's somebody. When I talked about learning to be quick on your feet. He is very quick on his feet. He is very, very good on the microphone. And we shredded each other. We said horrific things about each other. And it was entertaining for everyone else. But we don't like each other. And we laid into each other. People started questioning, wait a minute, this pro wrestling. I thought it was when these guys are hitting each other, it seems like they're actually hitting each other. Because we were. And we kind of had an understanding without saying it to each other that, listen, let's try not to break each other's noses. Let's try not to cause any permanent damage to each other. When we go out there, we feel this way about each other. Let's just let out on each other, let's see some kind of therapy. And we never had that conversation. That's just the way I felt and I assume the way he felt. And for our audience, it turned into gold. Because personal wishes equal money. If you genuinely believe, like any boxing fight, UFC fight, if you think they genuinely don't like each other other, or they do don't like each other, you're generally going to pay more money, you're going to watch. And it resulted in great entertainment for the fans. But CM Punk is trash.
Bobby (Interviewer)
See, and I feel like you guys were so good at not liking each other that you actually liked each other, because I thought it went off so well. That looked like there was a lot of respect there. And you're not messing with me, you're not just, you're not just angling me here?
Drew McIntyre
No, I can't stand up to this day. We just see each other backstage, whatever. We were in different shows, they moved as different shows. We finally had a big match. The big blow off match was called Hell in a Cell. I'm sure, you know, but for the, the audience, it's a giant cage with a roof on top of it. And during the match, you know, he got a couple of marks where he was bleeding on his head. I got hit by a toolbox. And a lot of people say, well, you must have used the razor blade and cut yourselves and no, I got hit by a toolbox and the middle of my head split right down the middle like an egg. I didn't expect it to happen. He obviously didn't expect it to happen. I'm sure he was loving it. But I resulted in 17 staples. There's pictures online where I started bleeding, and it was spurting out of my head like crazy. And wwe, like, we're, you know, these days, I'm very much on top of the health stuff, especially head injuries instantly. The backstage, we're talking to the referee on the headset. They've got a little earpieces in there and saying to me, are you okay? You have to let the doctor check you. So I got out the cage because it was very, very bad. The doctor was able to look me over, and I was telling him, I'm fine. You know, do a quick, quick check. That I was all there, miraculously, because it was such a horrible headshot, but I was still with it. And they were monitoring me through the match, but I bled buckets, like, through that match. We had this great match. It wasn't like a traditional hell in the cell match. It wasn't like stunts and the just beat the absolute crap out of each other. And inevitably, he won. And I like to say, because of blood loss, he didn't actually beat me. Whatever. The story was a story. And yeah, he's a piece of crap to this day. There was no mutual respect. I understand he's good at his job. I understand I'm good at my job. I understand we create magic together, but I understand he's a piece of trash.
Bobby (Interviewer)
But there's no respect gained even after you pull off an epic match, because you have to have each other's back to a point in that ring, I
Drew McIntyre
would never hurt my opponent intentionally. That's rule number one. Never, ever hurt your opponent intentionally. If you've got real legitimate issues, you go out there professional, you get the job done, and then you just don't talk to each other afterwards. Like when I was a kid, he caused me a few issues personally as well, that was hard to let go. And I've let a lot of things go, and I did let those go. But as far as I was concerned, he's changed in a few ways, but he's not changed in a lot of ways. He's still the way he is. I observe from a distance and see that he's still out for himself. There's a few people out there, I believe, still out for themselves. And he's one of them. I want to give back. I want to lift up this business. I want to make sure the next generation, generation, you know, get the information that I have from 25 years of wrestling. He's God knows what age is right now. Probably in his 50s. I think he's like 48 or something. I know he wants to hold on to that title. He wants to hold on to that top spot until he retires and not help anybody. And you're not stuck.
Bobby (Interviewer)
You're not playing me right now.
Drew McIntyre
No. I guess I don't want to give him all this airtime either. We're just wasting our time talking about this piece of crap.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I've fallen for what he does.
Drew McIntyre
I know because I told you. Charles Manson, like, what qualities? Yeah, it sucks you in. Like it's a talent. I don't deny his talent. Like the people that, especially someone that looks like him. Like he's skinny and fat at the same time. He's got horrible tattoos.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I feel like you're playing me right now.
Drew McIntyre
Doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. He sounds like a good type. Like I would know because I've never been out with him. Like I'm not gonna go to the bar with him so I can sit and drink freaking Pepsi all night. So the guy is just an absolute piece of trash. But he does have that amazing talent and he somehow people relate to him and he draws them in and. Yeah, that's amazing.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Who's an awesome guy?
Drew McIntyre
An awesome guy. There's a few awesome guys I usually rip on my good buddy Seamus, but Seamus is an awesome, awesome guy. I always make fun of him for being so old. He was my older brother. I always like to joke that I met him when I was 19 and he was 43 at the time and we've come up together, but there's a seven year age gap. So he's my older brother. We wrestled in Europe together when I was at university. He taught me how to work out to really get in shape. I helped him with his in ring game. We came to America together. We. He won the WWE title the same night I won the Intercontinental. Intercontinental title. We're setting a hotel room. Oh my God, I can't believe we're pulling this thing off. And best met at each other's weddings and the likes.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And you guys were best men at each other's weddings?
Drew McIntyre
Oh, yeah.
Bobby (Interviewer)
You're real friends then?
Drew McIntyre
Oh, yeah, Real, real friends. I wish I had the speech on film because I shredded his arse.
Bobby (Interviewer)
That's Why? I think the CM Punk thing is you're shredding CM Punk.
Drew McIntyre
Oh, no. But it's all good fun when I'm shredding him. Like, you know, also say nice things about him. I'm not gonna say one nice thing about CM Punk except he's got Charles Madison like qualities. I don't know if that's a compliment or not, but like, with shame. And I was like, you know, he's a ginger. Like he never got much girls as a kid. I had to help him out with the girls because he was a ginger altar boy. The girls weren't exactly lining up. It's like a fat, ginger alter boy. So I had to help him out with the girls and the legs. But then I put him over, put over his wife gonna say nice things about him because he's a genuinely good guy and an amazing wrestler.
Bobby (Interviewer)
When you finish a match, if it is a long, intense match, is something always hurt? Always.
Drew McIntyre
Not always.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Do you come out of a big match ever fully 100% healthy?
Drew McIntyre
No. Sore, Always sore. These days the schedule is such. Like we used to wrestle, we are 52 weeks a year, but we used to wrestle three, four days a week minimum. I probably did that for 18 years straight. Your body gets calloused eventually. You get used to being hurt all the time. Not injured, but hurt all the time. Just because of the nature of the schedule. The flights, the cars, the matches themselves, it all accumulates. No matter what you think of wrestling, gravity's still real people. But these days, I probably wrestle one match every couple of months. They finally eliminated most of the non televised shows. One, the talent were just getting hurt all the time and going out quicker. And two, from a profit standpoint, it just didn't make sense. It never made sense to me profit wise. So now the money's in the TV deals and all the other massive deals that the billion dollar man Nick can is constantly making. So because I'm wrestling once every two months, every three months, I do feel like I've been in a car crash after the matches. And I train for each match. Now I assume like a boxer would train for a fight, UFC fight, We train for a fight. I train for each pro wrestling match. I keep myself looking the part and the app outside. But also I get ready to take that physical abuse in every match I know is coming up. Every big match. Like I know at Wrestlemania, in less than two weeks, I'm wrestling Jacob Fatu whenever.
Bobby (Interviewer)
It'll be this weekend when this airs. It'll be this weekend coming Up.
Drew McIntyre
I'll be wrestling this weekend at WrestleMania against Jacob Fatu in an unsanctioned match, which means there's no rules. We can use any weapon we want on each other. We've built the story, you know, real well over the past. It's probably been about a six month build for this story. It was like a side story. I was WWE Champion for a few months, feuding with Cody Rhodes, who's the current WWE Champion. And the side story was with Jacob and we transitioned into Jacob and I. And it will really escalate it. And when people see this, you'll see how far I've escalated it. Where I'm harping on his former criminal past, that he served some time, that he's not changed. He's still a convict, he still steals. He stole my world title, he stole my main event at WrestleMania. And at WrestleMania, I'm going to make him suffer in this no rules match. And I reckon when WrestleMania is over, even though we've got Roman Reigns against CM Punk, big match, big names. We've got Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton. Also a big marquee match. When this is over, WrestleMania's over. Biggest show of the year. A lot of star power, a lot of celebrity names will be involved. They'll be talking about McIntyre and Fatu because we're going to beat the crap out of each other. Make everyone question what they think about pro wrestling.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Whenever you are given the story, do you have much input on the direction the story goes?
Drew McIntyre
Oh, 100%. Especially the way the past few years have been. The writers, the creative team is led by Triple H. These days we're very in the weeds for details. In the past with Vince, it worked for Vince for years and it probably still would work. It was very black and white. Good guys, bad guys, keep it simple so people can follow the product every week. But we started when Triple H wanted to make it so that, hey, let's treat the ones that are tuning in every week. We have 52 weeks a year. We can create deeper, layered stories, deeper layer characters. Especially if you know who you are and you're able to add those layers to your characters and able to take fans on a journey with you and understand your reasons for doing things. A lot more shades of gray instead of just black and white. And it's been very cool to have that opportunity. And creative will buzz me, hey, we're thinking this, this week. What do you think? And I'll give my two cents then on the day I have the opportunity to go, I'm not feeling this. And go to Triple H himself and go, what do you think of this? We'll have a little back and forth and then once I get out there, if the live crowd aren't digging it, it's oh no, I'm going to try and change it now, but I'll stay within the confines of the story. But we get real time feedback by the live audience with 20,000 people doing the exact opposite of what you thought they were going to do. So if you're confident enough and you, you know your character and you're relaxed, like I'm Mr. Relaxed, you can take a different direction and make sure the fans start getting involved and kind of doing what you want them to do, which is number one, get emotionally involved. Because if they're not emotionally involved, you might as well be. I don't know. Not there.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Are there two different, I don't want to say versions of relief because it's got to feel awesome too. But when they tell you you're gonna win the title and when you win the title, is that two different awesome moments?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Or do you feel like you may not win? If they say you're gonna win it, they may change it before you.
Drew McIntyre
Oh, yeah. I mean, I've been told I'm gonna win it more times that I can count and I never won it. I'm a three time WWE champion, a one time world champion, but I've been told if I'd won every one I was told I was probably gonna win, I'd be like a 20 time champion. But yeah, yeah. So when something I get told something's happening, I don't assume it's gonna happen. It's just because we're week to week, things can change. People get injured, storylines change for 100 different reasons. But when I get told I was going to win the most recent one, it was in January, the first smackdown of the year, it was in Berlin, Germany and I was wrestling Cody Rhodes. And the third match we'd had during our storyline together, it was going to be a three stages of hell match, they call it. Where it starts off with our regular singles match. Then it was going to be a street fight. We fought all over the arena and then finish in a cage match. And by this point everyone's kind of used to Cody being the kind of main centerpiece of the company. Just wins all the time. That's part of my shtick. He's the corporate guy, wins all the time. It's like repeat watching the show every him as the champion. I'm here for change. I'm dangerous, I'm unpredictable. I am like. I'll just say whatever's on my mind drives the office crazy, but yeah. So everyone just assumed Cody was going to win. And then at the end of that match in Berlin, Jacob showed up to take me out when I was trying to leave the cage. He won a cage match by leaving the cage and he came in, tried to take me out. Cody got between him, so I was able to escape out the cage. So the way I look at it, I beat two guys to win the title that night fight. It gave everyone a nice shot because everyone was expecting Cody to win. It put the good guy who's always kind of winning, like it gets boring if the good guy's just winning all the time. It put Cody in a position where you got the title taken off of him. Screwed in a way he has to chase now. He has to find some grit. He has to dig deep down to overcome the odds. And as the bad guy, I'm able to take the title and say, all right, I finally got the one thing I've been screwed out of for years. That's my character's story. I keep getting screwed and screwed and screwed and screwed. I finally have this thing. I'm. I'm going to be like Shmi, going, lord of the Rings, my precious. I will do anything to keep this thing now. So it was very exciting to get told I was getting it that day at 5pm I found out before the show.
Bobby (Interviewer)
That's when you found out.
Drew McIntyre
I got the official word that it was happening because I assume there's a lot of conversations. WrestleMania season, if something like that happens, it's a huge deal. It has to go through the top, top channels. And everybody got on the same page of the story going forward. And when I got told I was okay, that's fine. And we had a 45 minute match. But Cody's so good. I know what I'm doing. I wasn't worried about the match whatsoever. Let's give them a. A show. And it got everybody talking. It put the characters in an interesting position. It gave the product a shot in the arm for WrestleMania season. And for me personally, the next day I was in Scotland. So I got to walk out in Glasgow, Scotland, as WWE Champion with my family all there, with my country all there. I'd won the title two times during the pandemic with no fans there. There was a warehouse the first time I beat Brock for the title. I beat Randy Orton the second time with a bunch of screens and I lost the title. By the time the fans came back and I won the world title at wrestling, I got cheated out of it five minutes and 46 seconds later. Again, all part of the, I guess the character storyline. And I finally had the title in front of live fans. That wasn't just live fans. It was in front of my country, in front of my family. And I was able to tell them, oh, I told you all I was gonna bring this back. It's taken a few title reigns, it's taken a few times getting screwed, but here's the title Scotland and presented it to them. It was pretty cool.
Bobby (Interviewer)
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Bobby (Interviewer)
And we're back on the Bobby cast whenever you got here. You're an extremely warm guy. Thank you again. I've. I've seen you on television so much that you, you know, you're not a warm guy on television. That's. You're. You're not supposed to be.
Drew McIntyre
Right.
Bobby (Interviewer)
You're playing that. But I was surprised at how warm and, and just how kind you are from the second you walked in. Do you like being the bad guy?
Drew McIntyre
Oh yeah. Bad guys are more fun. But the thing about my character, I guess when I was younger, I was a stereotypical bad guy. I'm far enough from Scotland, ooh, screw you America and all that jazz. But it's boring. The fun thing about character now is I call myself the Last Good Guy and I speak in truth. So my thing is I never want to lie. But no one likes a complainer. Nobody likes someone who over explains. And I constantly over explain why I'm not the good guy. I'm the reason. The way I act is because I get screwed out of the title in 2022 in front of my whole family in the UK by Roman Reigns and his entire family. My family were there. And have you ever heard of PTSD and trauma? I have a lot of trauma and I kept getting screwed and people started cheering the other guys and then CM Punk comes back. Then you cheer the other guy and then I get bleed to death for you all my fans that I fought so hard for and I'm out for three months and you all move on. Like that's part of the character shtick. And it's also kind of true because the product's so fast moving, 52 weeks, there's no time to think about who's out of sight, out of mind. They don't think about Stone Cold. Don't think about the Rock unless they're on TV right in front of them. And I came back and the mindset was, I've worked my life for you. I've bled to death for you, and you all forgot about me. I got one phone call when I was out. So from now on, I'm gonna fight for me, fight for my family, and do whatever it takes to become champion the whole time. That's like a fun little. Fun little bit, but also kind of based in truth. Like, deep down it's true, but it's also not true because I get it, and I love the fans and I love what I do, and I feel very fortunate. But it's fun as hell to go out there and play the bad guy, but also believe I'm the good guy, because everything I'm giving is facts from my perspective. And every great bad guy has truth in what they're saying and justification of what they're saying.
Bobby (Interviewer)
What's the travel schedule like for you?
Drew McIntyre
Every week, all over, but it's not as bad as it used to be.
Bobby (Interviewer)
So you're just. You're not flying private everywhere, are you?
Drew McIntyre
Sometimes, but not. Not as often as I'd like to.
Bobby (Interviewer)
If it's a big if. It's like WrestleMania coming this weekend. Will you fly private?
Drew McIntyre
Because I might.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Body preservation.
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, I might. For Mania. Yeah. Just because of my wife and family and stuff will be there. If I'm by myself, I'm not that bothered as long as I've got a direct or whatever. And we'll see how the next contract goes if the company start paying for. I'll fly. Fly private all the time. But yeah, it is a big difference having a flying Uber. And when you're in the private plane as opposed to the commercial flights. And unfortunately with Nashville, no offense, Southwest, but it's mostly the direct and it's not ideal for somebody my size.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Do you ever have security with you and are they smaller than you every time in America?
Drew McIntyre
Not no security until we get to the venue. And our security are there. In Europe, the security are there. And there are some big dudes. I'm bigger than most of them, but there's a lot of big dudes. I just happen to be a really big dude. And there's a bad dudes. Sometimes when I ask them, I was like, hey, man, you've killed guys, haven't you, Drew? Don't even worry about it.
Bobby (Interviewer)
So the Russian, obviously. Seriously?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah. That's just one guy from all Over. Nobody says no. What is your workout schedule like these days? Again, a little different. I'm more about preserving, preserving the body, but also looking the part. I train about generally four days with weights, but also focus on mobility and stretching and cardio. I never did cardio ever since I played soccer, football.
Bobby (Interviewer)
You do you yoga at all?
Drew McIntyre
I do a little bit of like diamond. Dallas Page, former wrestler, has got his ddpy and I use certain movements I learned from him that are more rehab based or prehab based to strengthen, you know, your hips and your shoulders and lower back and things are going to get hurt in our job. The big difference maker for me was I took on a personal trainer, Jeff, about eight months ago, who comes to like my garage gym. I got a little gym in the house. And he goes through everything with me. And he's somebody who had brittle bone disease growing up. Spent a lot of time in a body cast growing up, up just dreaming of being a bodybuilder. And people like me like, hey, you're gonna go to America, be a wrestler in wwe. That's insane for him to think he's gonna be a bodybuilder. Brittle bone disease, that's way more insane. And sure enough, he did it. He's got two rods in his femurs, but he strengthened up his tendons, he strengthened up his joints through things he'd learned, he'd read about. And he started teaching me these things and how important diet is for inflammation. Cutting out all the crap. Like basically I was eating burgers and pizzas and whatever I wanted for years because I always looked apart because of my metabolism we talked about already. And he was like, no, that's hurting you. You have to start, right? And the amount of blueberries I eat now is unbelievable. But it's amazing. For inflammation. Yeah, for inflammation. Unbelievable. I never drank enough water, apparently, even though water is basically a beer is basically water, that doesn't count. So I had to start drinking actual water. But the difference is just incredible how I feel with all the mobility work. I can throw head kicks. My hips were so bad from wrestling for so long and all the travel and the likes. I couldn't barely throw a psychic anymore. Beyond like 90 degrees. I could throw it right past my head. And now my shoulders feel great, my lower back feels great. Apparently when you're a tall guy, I didn't have much of a butt. I'm growing a butt. So everybody out there, look for it. Cause you see my tiny tights. Thank you. When I rip off my kilts or my Strip routine. You can also see my lovely butt that I've been building. So make sure you chit in, ladies.
Bobby (Interviewer)
What about sleep?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, I mean, we talked about my narcolepsy. I love sleep. I freaking love sleep.
Bobby (Interviewer)
How many hours a night can you get? How many hours a night do you
Drew McIntyre
think you need to have to operate my full capacity? I think eight, nine hours for me personally. If I get that in, I know I'm going to be good depending on how busy my week is. I had a crazy, crazy last week. Again, this is not a normal week, but I did TV last Friday. I honestly can't remember where it was, but I flew back home and the Saturday. No, that's not right. I did TV on Friday, then I got a flight home after TV on Friday. And then Saturday at 2 I left to London. Then I had Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in London. Then I hopped on a flight back to Nashville, got in at midnight and then I took a 6:25 to TV in St. Louis this past last Friday. So I had a bit of a crazy, crazy past week. Wow.
Bobby (Interviewer)
And then you still have to stay disciplined within all of that with your food.
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, yeah, it's not so easy when you get to uk. Luckily I've got a lot of contacts there since I'm from there to get me the meal prep meals. But yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of food that's bad for you in the uk. And a lot of chips, like fries, you call them here, but like the proper chips. It tastes so good. But gotta be careful or I'll gain 20 bad pounds.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Three final, final questions. When you were coming up and you were doing the independents, or I guess it could have been before WWE or even back in the Middle, were there any wrestlers that you looked up to as a kid that were really awesome to you once you finally got to meet them?
Drew McIntyre
God, tons. I feel bad because I'll forget a bunch of names, but just a few, I guess quickly off the top of my head because everybody. I can't think of one person that's been bad to me. I never watched Punk growing up, so I'm good with that.
Bobby (Interviewer)
See, that's why I think you're kidding about CM Punk.
Drew McIntyre
I just don't have anyone that I genuinely don't like except I don't have any time for hate in my life. So I don't really hate him. I just think he's a piece of crap. Like I have no time for hatred. I don't hate you, Punk. You're just a Piece of trash. So people I watch Undertaker has one that I was a massive fan of growing up. And when I got to wwe, Vincent, man put him in charge of me as my mentor. He said, you don't listen to anybody else. You listen to the Undertaker. So he was the one that was always there for advice. When I was 23, 24 years old,
Bobby (Interviewer)
when I was living in Texas, he would work out of the 24 hour fitness that I was going to.
Drew McIntyre
He went to the 24 Hour Fitness in Austin.
Bobby (Interviewer)
He would go to the stair machine and just walk all right on the stairs.
Drew McIntyre
I was like, how you gotta work out in there?
Bobby (Interviewer)
Well, he wouldn't lift, but he would go to the stair machine and just. He would be there walking. When I got there, I'd leave an hour and 10 minutes later, he'd still be walking on the stair machine.
Drew McIntyre
Wow. I can't do that. And you can't do that in 30 minutes. And it drives me insane.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yeah, give me another one. Give me another.
Drew McIntyre
There's so freaking many Shawn Michaels. Somebody growing up. Bret Hart. I got to do a European tour of Germany with Bret Hart. He was a massive name everywhere. The Hitman, but he was a massive, massive name in Germany. And I was intercontinental champion at the time. A title he made famous before he won the world title. So it was cool. Traveling around Germany with Brett with the title, hearing all the stories about all the shenanigans he got up to that he can't write about in his book and I can't tell in this podcast and with Sean himself. When I returned to wwe, I spent some time in NFL nxt, and Sean had just come in there and I spent time when I was younger with them, but I really had some one on one time. I didn't have to go to nxt, I could just do the shows. But I asked, can I come and work with you? And he was like, oh, if you don't mind driving up. It's like a four hour round trip. I was like, shawn Michaels, one of the best of all time. I will take the trip to work with you. And it's like a PhD going back and forth with him, kind of learning the way he thinks about wrestling. His IQ level is so high. Just the way he thinks about how we do things in this industry and how we can connect with people emotionally. And obviously, Triple H had a cross creative now has always been there just for any question I have. And I say, can we do this? Why don't you do this? And it's a lot Similar to fit Finley, who's a big mentor of mine, too. These get the same. Triple H and Finley are the same. When I take them an idea and go, what do you think of this? And they go, why wouldn't you do it this way? Because no one's ever done that before. You just invented it right now because you're so good.
Bobby (Interviewer)
That's what they say to you.
Drew McIntyre
No, no, I say it to them.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Oh, got it, Got it.
Drew McIntyre
I mean, I wish I said it to me as Drew, you're the man. Oh, my God. You've blown our mind. You're evolutionary wrestling, Drew. But not all like people like Finley and Triple H, even like Sean as well, their minds are as such. I come up with something that I believe is creative and I believe has never been done. And I don't think it had been done the way I have in my head, because I'm very creative. I think about it all the time. But they're such an advanced level. They hear it, they tweak it, and they come back with a suggestion. And I say, that's never been done. Like, why are you just saying it like it's a normal thing?
Bobby (Interviewer)
Two questions left. Whenever you're going into a match at WrestleMania coming up this weekend, do you have to purposefully calm yourself down so you can think clearly? Because I'd imagine the adrenaline is pumping. It's the event.
Drew McIntyre
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty good at staying pretty relaxed, especially during the day. I'm fine until it gets close to the match, but I got a bit of a routine now. I never really had a routine before because they keep us busy. You know, an appearance here and maybe a meet and greet there earlier in the day. We around fans and stuff and keeping you moving, it keeps your mind kind of off the task at hand. And by the time Mania comes around, I'll have already kind of thought through what I want the match to be, what I want to present. If it's a dangerous match like the one I have, I'll probably know certain moments that are going to happen because of the danger elements. But the rest of it I want to feel when I get out there. But I'll still have a picture in my head and the story I want to tell and the emotion I want to evoke from the crowd. And once it starts getting really close to the match, I'll start getting more specific. And this is probably something you could have thought of two weeks before, but we are week to week with a TV show every week, and I really Start zoning in and zoning in. And it's like an actor or whatever the words on the page, you know, or it can be amazing, but then someone can do them terrible and they mean nothing. Or the words can be basic and somebody can just have such a performance or the words don't matter. Like it's the performance you're giving to everybody. Like, I've got something in my head that could be really good or something we talk about could be really good. But if you're not there emotionally, that the moves don't mean crap. You have to connect with that audience. You have to get them involved, you have to get them making noise, you have to get them to feel something. Or it means, you know, Jack, basically. And I'm all about just sitting down and thinking, okay, once I get. Get out there, boom, the moves go out in my head. All that matters is what's going on in my eyes, because that's all that matters. The fans can't articulate it, but they can feel it subconsciously. If you're not in the moment, if you're not present of every single thing you're doing, every movement you're doing, every emotion you're putting out there, even for a second, if you slip out in your eyes and they see it, they're like, ah, it's just fake wrestling. So as soon as I go out there, I'm in it 100% of the time. I expect Jacob to be in 100% of the time and we're finished. I'm going to be talking about this match for a long time.
Bobby (Interviewer)
After a match, do you ever go to dinner with the. The person you just wrestled?
Drew McIntyre
It's happened, but like, unless it's like
Bobby (Interviewer)
a Seamus or not common. Sorry, not common to hang out after?
Drew McIntyre
Yeah, I mean, sometimes, yeah. Like if we went to the bar or whatever and some of the lads are there, you may have a drink with the guy you just beat the crap out of.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Drew McIntyre
So most of the guys that's, you know, the case with.
Bobby (Interviewer)
All right, final question. Can you buy clothes off the rack anywhere?
Drew McIntyre
No. No. I got this from a gentleman's playbook. I think this is from. You're welcome. Give me a free one. But yeah, yeah, most of the stuff is. Is custom made. My weird shaped body, like my legs are long as hell and big as hell. So I can't just walk in and get a pair of jeans or the skinny jeans. My wife laughs at me. And even jackets or anything. T shirts. I can generally get certain brands of T shirts that look, in my mind, pretty cool. But she'll rip on me for wearing one of her shirts, but it's actually one of mine.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I really appreciate the time. Yeah.
Drew McIntyre
Appreciate you having me.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Yeah. This is awesome. Again, I didn't know what to expect. You're a massive guy. I obviously. But, yeah, super nice.
Drew McIntyre
Thank you.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Do you find people are surprised that you're so nice sometimes because they expect you to be the dude on tv?
Drew McIntyre
I get a couple of things. One, you're a lot bigger in real life, and you're on tv, and I tell them to get bigger tv. And two is like, yeah, the kids are so scared of you. But then suddenly they're just hanging off the side of me. And I was like, yeah. No, I always tell the kids as well. I meet a lot of kids backstage if the athletes and stuff come. And I always tell them, just remember me how I am not. I'm about to be out there, because I know as soon as the red light goes on. I mean, one of my nicknames is a Scottish psychopath for a reason.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Well, I hope you have a. How do you root somebody? Good luck in wrestling. Like, I don't say good luck, but not break a leg. I don't know. What do you say? Is there a non bad luck type? Good luck.
Drew McIntyre
Kill it, Drew. And make sure you have a better match than that idiot CM Punk.
Bobby (Interviewer)
See, I don't believe you.
Drew McIntyre
I love saying it because I know you're gonna react to that one. I don't believe you.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I think you probably really love the guy.
Drew McIntyre
I just love the guy.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Honestly, I do feel that you love.
Drew McIntyre
Okay, I promise you, I do not love CM Punk. I absolutely do not love CM Punk. He caused me issues when I was younger. Legitimately. We were working together. He made things difficult at times, and other times where I thought he was trying to help me out. He was only trying to help himself out. And thankfully, I'm not young and naive like I was once, and he's a piece of crap, and I don't have to work with him anymore so I can run my mouth about him and I can't help myself because I'm such a trash talker. Nice guy, but if I don't like it, I wouldn't shut up about you. Does him a favor. I'm giving him all the.
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Drew McIntyre
All this promotion right now, but I'm also educating the fans of what a piece of trash is. And I'm trying not to swear, and I've done really well today as a Scottish person. We swear to punctuate sentences. And I've done so well. Maybe I swear once, just almost to stop myself. But no swears because I'd be calling them the F word. The C word.
Bobby (Interviewer)
I'm torn. I like you though.
Drew McIntyre
Thank you. I like you too.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Thank you very much. Drew. After Wrestlemania, you're super healthy. I'll be watching. Thanks for the time.
Drew McIntyre
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Bobby (Interviewer)
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Castle production.
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Episode: WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre on His Hatred of CM Punk, Why Aliens are Real & Breaking His Neck
Release Date: April 21, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Drew McIntyre
This episode features an in-depth conversation between Bobby Bones and WWE superstar Drew McIntyre. The show dives into Drew’s Scottish upbringing, family history, wrestling journey, diet and fitness, deeply personal struggles, his notorious rivalry with CM Punk, and his fascination with aliens. With WrestleMania 42 on the horizon, Drew pulls back the curtain on the realities of professional wrestling and his personal philosophies, all while keeping the tone candid, sometimes irreverent, and frequently heartfelt.
[03:49-14:47]
Growing up Tall in Scotland:
Family and Real Names:
Moving to Nashville:
Mother’s Battle and Influence:
Loss and Struggles:
Comeback:
[15:18-22:03], [47:12-52:01]
Motivation for Change:
Return and Success:
Creative Involvement:
Winning the Title in Front of Fans:
[09:53-11:41], [36:24-44:49], [57:40-61:26]
Scottish Cuisine:
Eating and Diet:
Workout and Recovery:
Sleep:
Body Maintenance:
[02:26], [37:43-44:49], [67:56-68:47]
Drew’s View:
On Respect:
Notable Quotes:
[27:24-33:17]
Early Obsession:
Current Views:
[44:49-48:42], [64:30-66:27]
[54:58-66:27]
| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 03:49 | Drew’s size, family, and background | | 11:57 | Mother’s illness, influence, and legacy | | 15:18 | Struggles after losing his mother & firing from WWE | | 20:08 | Rehiring and the Lesnar match vision | | 27:24 | Childhood fascination with X-Files and aliens | | 36:24 | Diet, daily calories, and maintaining size | | 37:43 | The CM Punk rivalry and real-life animosity | | 44:49 | Friendship with Sheamus and mentor relationships | | 45:07 | Wrestling’s physical toll and changing the schedule | | 47:17 | WrestleMania 42: match setup with Jacob Fatu | | 54:58 | Bad guy persona versus real-life personality | | 61:40 | Favorite wrestlers and mentors | | 66:27 | Pre-match nerves and focus | | 67:56 | Custom clothes for a big wrestler |
This episode is a must-listen for wrestling fans and anyone interested in the grit, humanity, and psyche of a global sports entertainer. Drew McIntyre brings authenticity, emotional depth, and humor to stories ranging from Scottish comfort food to wrestling's harsh backstage realities.
For listeners looking for behind-the-scenes wrestling insight, inspiration after loss, or just a dose of Scottish charm and candor, this episode delivers.