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Lunchbox
What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Weeknd. Lunchbox joins me. How are you? Lunch?
Morgan
Oh, man, I'm excited. We got baseball and soccer games today, so we just. We got to get this in and out so we can get out there. You know what I mean? Take the field, play ball.
Lunchbox
Because you're in on a Saturday, right?
Morgan
I'm in on a Saturday. Man, it just feels good to finally. Yeah. Get that stuff off.
Lunchbox
Okay, well, we are going to talk about your kids and some fun stuff, so let's just get into it. How are you feeling after this week's punishment of wearing a syphilis T shirt, a ball cap, and also truck nuts?
Morgan
I had a necklace that had a image on it that was very weird. And it was so annoying because Mike D. Bought a necklace. It was way too small, so it was really choking my neck.
Lunchbox
He gave you a choker? I mean, I think that was on purpose.
Morgan
No, I don't think it was. I think he just didn't know. And that was a lot. Those were a lot heavier than you realized.
Lunchbox
Yeah. They're not rubber.
Morgan
No, they're not rubber. And, like, when you walk. They were kind of banging me in the chest. That kind of was annoying. The hat and the shirt were really annoying because I always had to remember to. Oh, man, don't. What am I going to wear today? That was great because I didn't have to pick out an outfit, and sometimes I'd forget I was wearing it, and people would just kind of be looking at you and snickering.
Lunchbox
Would they ask you about it? How did it go in the wild?
Morgan
Well, some people. But some people, you could just see them. Like.
Lunchbox
You feel like kind of back in high school where you get made fun of.
Morgan
No, I didn't get made fun of in high school.
Lunchbox
I don't know what that was. Can you imagine what that's like? Was that, like, kind of what you said?
Morgan
No, I wasn't a nerd.
Lunchbox
Oh, goodness.
Morgan
I didn't get made fun of.
Lunchbox
How'd your wife feel when you guys were out in public? Was she like, I'm not with this guy?
Morgan
She didn't want to go. We didn't really go. She. We didn't go many places together, let's put it that way. She's like, no, no, we don't. We won't go to dinner today.
Lunchbox
She's like, next week.
Morgan
Maybe next week we'll maybe do something like, no, no, no. You're gonna wear that? No, I'll just go by myself.
Lunchbox
What about the kids.
Morgan
They don't know what it means. They don't care.
Lunchbox
Yeah, but did they at any point, like, look at you and be like, why? What are you wearing, dad?
Morgan
No.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
They don't have any idea. I mean, yeah, they're 6, 5 and 3. They don't have any idea what it means. They can't read it. They can't read that big of a word.
Lunchbox
Six year old. Is he not reading yet?
Morgan
No, he can read. But you think he can read syphilis?
Lunchbox
I mean, but he could read. Ask me. And then.
Morgan
But it's cursive.
Lunchbox
Oh, yeah, I guess they're not. Yeah, they're not learning cursive.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
So that's true. Dang. I'm. I'm actually shocked that they did it. Like, even just the colors. Like, why are you wearing that? Matching. You know what I mean?
Morgan
They don't care about what I'm wearing. Why are you wearing a matching shirt? They have no idea. They didn't care one bit. They just thought I got a new shirt. That was it.
Lunchbox
Okay, well, I'm glad your punishment is over. For your sake.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Are you glad it's over too? Are you like. No, I could do that again.
Morgan
I mean, I could do it again. I mean, it's not like it was painful. It wasn't like I had a needle in my eye.
Lunchbox
No, but did you feel any shame at any point in time?
Morgan
For what? I don't. I'm not out there spreading syphilis around the world. Like, I'm not infecting people on purpose. So I didn't feel bad at all. Whatever. Just. That's it. It was cool. I didn't wash the shirt once, though.
Lunchbox
Yeah, I'm not surprised. You don't wash your hoodies either.
Morgan
Yeah, I got me. And so I sweating in it. And I just hang it up, like, kind of lay it on, you know, the back of a chair and let it dry and then put it back on.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Even when you bike ride to work?
Morgan
Even when I bike ride to work. Even when I went to the driving range. Even when, you know, anywhere I went. Ah, whatever.
Lunchbox
I was wondering what that smell was in our studio.
Morgan
Oh, that was probably you.
Lunchbox
But no.
Morgan
Okay, but see, you can't smell, so I know you can't. You can't even say that. See, your jokes don't even work because you're. You have.
Lunchbox
Hey, it took you a second to remember that, though.
Morgan
You have Covid.
Lunchbox
I have Covid. But I did.
Morgan
You got Covid nose.
Lunchbox
I did have Covid. And that's why the nerves are dead in my nose.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Thank you for reminding me.
Morgan
Yeah, that's good. That's a good thing, man. I'm going to tell you what. But yeah. And this hat. I mean, that hat was just annoying. I mean, I'm ready.
Lunchbox
You never wear hats.
Morgan
I never wear hats.
Lunchbox
Are you not a hat guy?
Morgan
No, I only wear a hat when I play golf. That's it.
Lunchbox
I don't think I've ever seen you wear a hat ever.
Morgan
Yeah, it's weird. I have so many hats because people, you know, we get a lot of free hats.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
And I never wear them. I used to wear a hat. I don't know.
Lunchbox
Is it just not, like, your vibe? You don't think of it. You don't need it. I mean, you have a full, like, set of hair.
Morgan
So that I wore a hat. And like, every day in high school, that was cool, because you'd wear a hat in school. That. I mean, that was really maybe the coolest thing. Like, when you went from middle school to high school, it was supposed to be off campus, lunch.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
But the year I came in, my freshman year of high school, they changed it to only seniors could leave campus. So all of eighth grade, we had been talking about, man, we're gonna be able to leave campus for lunch. We're gonna be able to leave campus for lunch. Oh, dude, this is gonna be so awesome, dude. We're gonna go get a Wally's burger and shake. We're gonna go to Gatti town and get the Gatti pizza buffet. Show up. Freshman year. Sorry, we've changed the rules to, you can't leave the campus unless you're a senior.
Lunchbox
Boo.
Morgan
Okay. That stinks. Yeah, cool, cool. But you could wear a hat at school. And let me tell you, you want to talk about feeling, like freedom to wear a hat? To wear a hat in school when you're that age, it was, like, the coolest thing in the world.
Lunchbox
Now I'm thinking if we were able to wear hats, I don't think we were able to.
Morgan
In high school, we wore hats all the time. I wore a hat every day. Now, there were some teachers that, when you were in the class, no hats in my classroom. So you'd have to take your hat off and you'd have crazy hair or whatever. But, man, it was so worth it.
Lunchbox
I wonder if that's. Cause, like, they. You could sleep easier and they wouldn't notice. Like, you could kind of move it down, like, above your eyes. I always wonder that why some teachers didn't allow.
Morgan
Because here's why. Teachers want to try to act like they have power. They want to act, oh, you can't do that. And you're going to be respectful in my classroom. Some teachers are just idiots. Okay.
Lunchbox
Kind of sounded like Ben Stiller from dodgeball there for a second.
Morgan
Oh, hey, Global Gym, you ready? We're going to smash you. That was a good movie. Yeah. Some teachers just. They try to assert their dominance like they are some unbelievable, amazing person. They have so much power. It's really annoying. I'll tell you what. The teachers used to annoy the crap out of me.
Lunchbox
I can tell the way you just went off on them and their. Their power that they seemingly have over you.
Morgan
It's amazing how they think they have so much power. Like, just be cool. Just like, we had a police officer, right?
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
And we called him Nacho.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
And that may have been his name. I'm not sure, but that was his name to me. And I wore a shirt that they deemed inappropriate one time to school. Yeah, right. And he is, like, talking to me. And he's standing. I'm sitting down. He's yelling at me, like. And he's just, like, in my face. I'm like, this is a T shirt, man. I didn't bring, you know, six pounds of weed to school. Like, what are we doing? It's just, like, so dumb.
Lunchbox
What was the T shirt? Do you remember?
Morgan
Well, the one time I got had a T shirt, it said, I know Jack S C H I T T. Oh, okay.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
On the front and on the back it had a whole story about how Jack S H I T T married P I, a piece of S C H I T T. Okay. They had.
Lunchbox
That's an inappropriate shirt.
Morgan
They had kids named knee deep in.
Lunchbox
You know, and you wore that to school thinking you were gonna get away with that.
Morgan
I wore it for, like, the whole year.
Lunchbox
And you were able to wear it.
Morgan
Yeah. I mean, it doesn't say the word. It says S C H I T T. And my grandma bought it for me because it was very colorful.
Lunchbox
I really appreciate Lunchbox how the generations in your family have just passed things down. The way I hear you talk about things, how you're like, well, my parents did it, so I'm doing it. And now I'm hearing like, your grandma bought you this, and this is why you bought, like. Or you sent your kid to school with a Jack Daniels backpack. Like, no, I'm seeing the generational thing here with the family.
Morgan
I. The Jack Daniels backpack is funny. The shirt. I picked out the shirt when we.
Lunchbox
Went back to school shopping, right?
Morgan
Yeah, we went to back to school shopping and I picked it out and grandma bought it.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
And that's when I got in trouble is, it was like the second semester and I'm eating lunch in the cafeteria because there was no off campus lunch. And I get a tap on my shoulder and it's the like assistant principal. He's like, come over and see me at the table when you get done eating. I'm like, all right, cool, whatever. I don't know. So I'm sitting there eating. It's like 10 minutes later he comes up and he goes, are you done eating? And I'm like, no. And he goes, you are now. And I'm like, huh? Okay, whatever. So he makes me throw my lunch away. And he says, do you know why? What we need to talk about? I'm like, no, I've got no clue, man. He goes, you're shirt. It's very inappropriate for school. So we're going to go down to the office and we're going to call your mom or dad. And he's like, what's your dad's work number? I said, my dad doesn't have a work number. Okay, what's your mom's work number? I don't know. She just started a new job two days ago because this is on a Wednesday. And he goes, well, by the time we get down to the office, you're going to know your mom or dad's work number. Or else. Okay, man, like all of a sudden it's just going to magically appear in my brain. Like in. Because you threatened me. Or else. All right, cool, man. So we get down to the office. He's like, all right, what's your mom's work number? Like I said, man, she started a new job on Monday. Don't know it. Okay, what's your dad's work number? He doesn't have a work number. What does your dad do? He repairs and remodels houses. So you're gonna sit here and tell me that your dad is in construction and he doesn't have a work phone number? That's what I'm telling you. And he goes, what's your home phone number? Not give him the phone number. And he calls and he reads the shirt to. To the answering machine. Like, he reads it on the answering machine and is like, we have decided to let him remain in school today. And it's like, you decided to let me remain in school?
Lunchbox
Like A very impressionable moment on you that you remember all of these details about this shirt.
Morgan
Well, it's. Here's the thing. These teachers. That's what I mean. He tries to threaten you. Like, you will know your parents, phone number, work phone numbers by the time we get to the office, bro. Do you think I'm scared to tell you my parents number? Do you think my parents given Schitt about this? This is absolutely stupid. This is the stupid.
Lunchbox
What we're worried about a T shirt kid. You were that kid.
Morgan
What kid?
Lunchbox
The kid that just like always, always, like got under the skin. You were always the kid that just like did something just a little bit off, but not completely enough so they could get you in trouble. You were that kid.
Morgan
Well, yes, I. But also, it's like this dude thinks I'm scared of being in trouble. That's what I mean. Like, I don't think, like, he is acting like.
Lunchbox
So you say you wore the shirt the whole rest of the year?
Morgan
No, no, no. This was the. This was already the second special I'd worn it all year. This was just the first time someone said anything.
Lunchbox
Got it. Okay.
Morgan
And so he goes, what we're going to. He goes, I'm going to need you to go to your locker and get a different shirt. I'm like, I don't have another shirt. And he goes, after thinking about it, you'll be able to remain in school, but I need you to turn your shirt inside out. Okay, man? Fine by me. Thank you so much for letting me remain in school.
Lunchbox
Did you talk to him or were you actually a little bit scared when you were like, in trouble's office?
Morgan
No, this is. This is what I'm saying.
Lunchbox
Like, you're telling me you never got scared going to principal's office?
Morgan
What am I going to be? What am I scared of? I'm wearing a T shirt that he thinks is inappropriate. Oh, my gosh. Heaven forbid. Don't worry about the guy with three knives, you know, in the locker next to me. But this guy's wearing a T shirt. Oh, man. Where you bring out the SWAT team. Like, what are we doing? Why are we wasting our time?
Lunchbox
Never had this level of embarrassment where you like embarrassing and felt embarrassed. It was always embarrassing to get called to like the principal's office or like, you were in there and then you'd come back to the classroom, everybody be like, what did you get in trouble for? And half the time, like, I would get in trouble for my shorts because they'd have to be a certain Length, right? And.
Morgan
Oh, and you want to hoochie mama out and wear them shorter?
Lunchbox
No, I.
Morgan
Hood rat. Hood rat, Hoochie mama.
Lunchbox
My shorts, because I'm short were always shorter than the average one because if I went up a size, they would be longer. That's how shorts like work, okay? And I'm super short and I was very short back then, so they would always be just like an inch or like half a thing above.
Morgan
This is what I mean. And I waste their time on the dumbest crap. Like they are. They are walking around and touching your shorts to see ruler. Oh, excuse me. We are going to send you home because your shorts are too short. Like, hey, dude, what about the guy smoking weed in the bathroom or, you know, doing a lot of cocaine in the bathroom? Don't worry about them. Worry about a T shirt and shorts being a half inch too short. They waste their time on stupid crap.
Lunchbox
So no, There has to be a reason for it though. They all do that for.
Morgan
Because they want to enforce their power and show you how powerful and mighty they are. And that's the thing.
Lunchbox
I don't know that that's all of them. But no, no, some of them.
Morgan
I'm not saying all of them. I'm saying some of them that just think they have. They want to show you their dominance. And it's like me, I'm just like, I'm so laid back and chill. I'm just like, oh my God, this is so annoying. Like, do you think I really care if you call my parents? Like, but whatever.
Lunchbox
So I know. I'm just like shocked though, just from you. From a young age, you just never had any level of embarrassment. Like, nothing ever embarrassed you. Still doesn't to this day. I know that about you.
Morgan
I just didn't care. Like, getting in trouble wasn't like a big deal. Like it was just me. I was having a personality and this guy was just trying to. Oh, you're gonna. You know what? Because I'm such an assistant principal, I'm going to walk you to the office and you will know your par number. Like, no, bro, I don't know my parents number, so I'm never gonna know it.
Lunchbox
Were you the class clown?
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Did you like pull pranks ever? Were you ever like constantly cracking jokes?
Morgan
Constantly cracking jokes. All the time.
Lunchbox
Talking back, like cracking jokes or just cracking jokes to your friends?
Morgan
Probably talking back, cracking jokes. Like so then. So they leave the voicemail, right? Let me finish this story and then I'll tell you more.
Lunchbox
Like, we've been on the shirt for a while. So I was trying to give some.
Morgan
More stories but no, this is fantastic. This is fantastic. So my parents get the, the voicemail or whatever, the answering machine and they call him back and he doesn't answer. And so they let the voicemail and say what is this? S C H I T T? We can't get a hold of anybody.
Lunchbox
That's what your parents.
Morgan
Yeah, like that's funny.
Lunchbox
Your parents listen, you do take after your parents.
Morgan
See what I'm saying? Like they have a sense of humor and like. And so he talks to my dad the next day and he's like so yeah, we just don't think that shirt should come back to school. My dad's like okay, cool man. And he's like oh by the way, what do you do? My dad's like repair and remodel houses. He goes oh, can I just. For our records, can I write down your work number? And my dad's like I don't have a work number. And he's like okay, because I asked your son, he said you didn't have one and so you don't have one. He was like no, I don't. And he's like okay, thanks man. It's like, see what I'm saying? Like it's like he asked three times and then he asked my dad. Like I'm just lying to him.
Lunchbox
Like I don't think, I don't think most kids wouldn't not lie in that situation. I think more often than not kids are gonna like try and pull one off.
Morgan
But why then why would I give him my home phone? Like it's like it's not like, you know what I mean? Like I'll give you any phone number I have, I don't give a crap.
Lunchbox
But he's going off of basis of experience where most of the time kids.
Morgan
Are and probably cause I'm pretty a smart ass and so I'm just like oh God. Like I'm just rolling my eyes. This dude's annoy me like yeah.
Lunchbox
And he's like this kid isn't being honest with me. Like I'm just like that had to be.
Morgan
Why doesn't have a phone number?
Lunchbox
Well, you got validated from your dad and also your parents making the joke. It's funny, right?
Morgan
Like that's humor and people, they didn't appreciate it and that's the thing. And so like when I showed up for graduation, they pulled me aside before I walked into the arena. We Irwin center rest in peace with Irwin center they pull me into a side room that. Listen, do not do anything today. We will keep your diploma. Like, we have our eyes on you. Like, just let's have a.
Lunchbox
So you're telling me you don't have your college degree and you almost have a high school degree.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
That tracks.
Morgan
They were like, we want this to be a civil. Like, a celebration. Please don't do anything. I'm just like, you people are such losers. Like, I just cannot believe, like, don't have any fun at your graduation. You know what I mean? Like, how dare you do something fun at graduation? Like, oh, we just gotta have our, you know, shirts buttoned up straight in our tie, and we just have to sit there with our hands crossed. I mean, guys, can we live a little bit? Why are we so uptight? Why does everything had to be uptight? Can you explain it to me? Why can you not let kids have fun?
Lunchbox
Well, I bet they were worried that you're gonna, like, light the place on fire or something. Based on this. These few stories that I'm hearing, they're like, this, dude, it all might come crumbling down.
Morgan
I just can't. I just always found it so crazy that they didn't want kids to have a personality.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I mean, they allowed it in ours. Like, we had senior pranks. We had Senior Skip Day. We had all kinds of stuff, but it definitely. Like, there was a threshold. Like, you couldn't go so insane. We would get in trouble for certain stuff. But.
Morgan
Right. And I get it. And see, and that's why you think I'm scared to let you. Oh, my gosh. Call my parents. My brother graduated in 1997. Right. And I was in 99, so he was two years ahead of me. My sister was in 98.
Lunchbox
You know, I was six years old when you got. When you graduated.
Morgan
That's really old. And so here's what happened. This is just. I'll just give you a peek into how my parents were.
Lunchbox
Okay, Wait, hold on. We're gonna take a break.
Morgan
Do we need to take a break?
Lunchbox
We're gonna take a break and we'll come back to that. Because then we also gotta talk about you being a dad, too. So this rolls perfectly. You tell how your parents were. I mean, that'll be great. Okay.
Morgan
I don't even know people like that story, but that story is. It is huge.
Lunchbox
You like? And that my stories are phenomenal.
Morgan
Let me tell you. I. And I told you, take a break. I told you every detail. And that was my sophomore year of high school. I'm telling you guys, I will tell you stories for days. I remember details upon details upon details.
Lunchbox
You do? Okay, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be back with more details upon details.
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Lunchbox
All right, lunchbox, tell me how your parents were.
Morgan
So my brother graduates, right? And he's cleaning out all this crap and he has a pad of get out of class early like paper that he had stolen from the office and they're already stamped. And he goes to throw them in the trash and my mom pulls them out and goes, don't you think your brother or sister might need those? That's what I'm talking about. Like, that is awesome. And she gave them to us.
Lunchbox
You know, I remember the first time that I met your parents and they Were just so funny and so easygoing and very light hearted. And it just made sense when I met them. And I know you. It just all made sense in the best way possible. It made sense where you came from is what I'm trying to say.
Morgan
Yeah. And that's what I don't understand why people are so like, uptight. Like, people are just like, oh my gosh, don't do this, don't do that. Oh, can't do that. You want march in line, be, you know, quiet, don't say anything. It's like, guys, can we live? Can we have fun? Like, why can we not have fun? Like, why do we start being so serious all the time?
Lunchbox
You grew up in a very different way than majority of people. I would say. Like, you had very chill parents. Very chills were like. They were also ornery in their own ways. From the stories you've told me. Like, they were funny, they love to crack jokes. Pranksters like you had very chill, just ornery also parents. And I don't think that was very common lunch. I don't think most people, A lot of people had like full structure and it wasn't chill. You get trouble a lot.
Morgan
Really? Yeah. That's weird.
Lunchbox
I think it's uncommon.
Morgan
I don't know. I felt like. It's like I felt like most parents were chill.
Lunchbox
Listen, I don't know, I just knowing now, like meeting your parents and like seeing the way that you grew up, it. To me, it wasn't common. Everyone that I knew, all the experiences that I've had, all the people that I've talked to, you have a solo experience in that and just your experiences of how everything was very laid back. And maybe it's because, like that was just their personalities and it just really morphed into who you are. I mean, that's what parenting is.
Morgan
Yeah. Like, I mean, there was a dude, like, we had a curfew, citywide curfew. And we were freshmen in high school and he came to spend the night at Forest House. We were gonna go toilet paper someone's house. So they went up to the heb to get some toilet paper and a cop bus like pulled him over and curfew violation. And his parents lost it. Like, you're never allowed to go over there. Like, I knew you shouldn't have gone to the. The ghetto and like, and, you know, just, I can't. They're just such bad influences on you. So the parents are that say that. Right. And then we, like one time we get busted throwing some. We're throwing footballs or tennis balls at cars, right?
Lunchbox
Oh boy. Okay.
Morgan
And someone knocks on my parents door and is like, hey man, there's some kids over there that might be your kids. And instead of being like, no, I didn't. My kids, my kids would never do that. My dad's like, yeah, it kind of sounds like something they would do. You know what I mean? Like people like parents were such in denial, like their kids did nothing wrong. And my descent, that's probably them, you know, like that. I'm guessing that's them. So that's one of the things I think is funny too is parents always think, oh, my kid would never do that. It's like, guys, your kids do stuff. Like all kids do stuff.
Lunchbox
I guess to your point, I did. There was moments where like we would go toilet paper the house. Sometimes our parents would drive us. We'd have like a whole load up in the car. But it was always innocent stuff. Like when, you know, we were out drinking or we'd sneak out. Of course I'd get in trouble. Like that's when I would be grounded and I'd get yelled at. But like when we go toilet paper and we're just like innocent and we're doing things that like kids are doing. No, I didn't get in trouble.
Morgan
Yeah, we never like had to sneak out because my parents were such heavy sleepers. He just walked out, walk out the front door.
Lunchbox
They know now, like looking back that you did sneak out and you were doing stuff.
Morgan
Yeah, but they don't, they didn't care. Here's another thing. My parents, they always like, they would say, I'll be home at this time and if we didn't come home at that time. Okay, whatever.
Lunchbox
Did you ever get grounded?
Morgan
Not, I mean, maybe once.
Lunchbox
Okay. See, like, yeah, down. Just vastly different experiences.
Morgan
Yeah. Because my parents, like, like in high school, they looked at us and they said, listen, I'm not going to tell you not to drink. Because I can't tell you that because I'm not going to be there. Like, I can't say do not drink or you're going to be in trouble. They said, but I'll tell you one thing, if you do drink, just call us, we'll come get you. That's it. That was it. That was the only rule.
Lunchbox
Yeah, I did have that. My parents were like, if you ever find yourself in like a compromising position, like, please don't drive, just call us. Yeah, we got you. But yeah, I'd still get in trouble.
Morgan
Oh, you get in trouble?
Lunchbox
Oh, yeah. I mean, like, I wasn't trouble for calling them, but I was like, morgan, you're underage. You shouldn't be drinking. Like, what are you doing?
Morgan
See, that's weird because it's kind of contradictory. Because you're scared to get in trouble.
Lunchbox
Yeah, like, but I wasn't, like, grounded. It was just like, don't do this anymore.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
And if you do it again, you will be in trouble kind of thing. So there was leeway, but it wasn't enough to be like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna go do that again, and I'll be fine.
Morgan
Because my mom would stay up. Like, she'd go to bed and then wake up at, like, 1 and start vacuuming. And if we weren't home, she'd send us a page, and we'd have to call and be like, where are you? Oh, okay, well, all right. When are you coming home? It was, like, one of those things. It was never.
Lunchbox
So are you. I'm assuming you're kind of taking the same parenting style with your kids. 100%, just very laid back.
Morgan
Laid back.
Lunchbox
Chill, chill. Okay. Like, how does your wife feel about that? Because I bet your wife was also raised differently.
Morgan
She has a little harder time. But, like, I told the story on about how they went up a couple houses to some swing that was in someone's front yard, and a couple. Three middle schoolers said something to them. And I saw some of the comments were like, what are you doing letting your kids go two houses away to swing on a swing? I'm like, oh, my gosh. People. Are you really. These people that are going to sit there and make sure you have to stand over your kids the whole time? They're not allowed to leave your site. Like, it's two houses down. Like, their kids, they know how to walk. They know how to kind of not. You got to teach them to navigate the world. You got to let your kids out two houses down. Oh, my God, I'm a terrible parent. I love me. And my parents were laughing so hard. I told them about it. They were like, oh, my gosh, here we go.
Lunchbox
But does your wife have moments where, like, she really wants to kind of helicopter parent and you're. You're stopping her from doing that?
Morgan
She's trying to get better.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Was that a thing? Especially with your first one? Because that was the first try.
Morgan
Yeah, like, our first one, she wanted me to strap him in to the baby changing table every time I changed the diaper in case he rolled off. I'm like, he is three weeks old, he has no muscles. She's like, but what if I'm like, oh my gosh, snap.
Lunchbox
So you'd reluctantly allow it back.
Morgan
No, I did it if she was in the room. I never did it if she was not in the room. Like, if she was there standing there. Yes, I did it because she was there. But if she was not there, I never snapped him. Like, it was like, he can't roll over.
Lunchbox
So now as you guys have three kids, they're growing up. Do you feel like she has lessened that a lot?
Morgan
Like the third kid, we didn't put up baby gates. We never put locks on the cabinets. We never did anything.
Lunchbox
You just let it happen.
Morgan
Just let it happen. Like, there was no stop. It was just like, you know what, it's fine. The first child. Everybody does it. And it's like you go to the grocery store, this is a great example, the grocery store with the first kid, you would carry the diaper bag and go all around the store carrying it. It's like, why not just leave it in the car? It's not like if he, if the kid goes to the bathroom, just go out to the car and get it or just wait till you get to the car. It's not like you're going to be in the grocery store for three hours. Like, but you see like these first time parents that go in the grocery store and they got the diaper bag, it's just like, I was there, man, I feel you. But you don't need it. You don't need it.
Lunchbox
Do you feel like on the second kid it starts to wane a little bit or do you feel like you go full, like first kid, everything, second kid, okay, whatever.
Morgan
It starts to wane on the second kid. Like you start to not do things. Oh, no, we don't need to worry about that.
Lunchbox
But then the third kid is where it's like, really, all bets are off.
Morgan
All bets are off. All bets are off. Yeah.
Lunchbox
That is why they always say, like the young, the youngest child always has just like chaos into them.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Because most of the time parents are like, yeah, you're the last one.
Morgan
You're fine, you're fine. Like you understand that they're gonna be okay.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
99% of the time. And it's, it's great, it's fantastic. And that's the thing, like when we treat our three year old and it's just like when our first one was three, when baby box one was three, I mean, we were like, oh, man, he can't do anything. And now we're like, go get your own water, like. And so he climbs up on the counter, gets a cup, and gets his own water. You know, like, you realize they can do a lot more than you realize.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I've seen a lot of things on TikTok where parents are learning to just, like, communicate with their kids, like, talk to them as normal human beings instead of it being like you're babying them literally.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Instead, it's just having full, normal conversations and they start to adapt quicker.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Do you feel like that's true? I don't. I don't know. This is what I'm seeing on TikTok.
Morgan
I mean, they can do a lot of things. I mean, they're. They're smart.
Lunchbox
Does it ever shock you when they do something? You're like, oh, you're a little human. You can do that.
Morgan
Yeah. Like, my. The five year old now is very interested in climbing the tree to touch the roof of the house, you know? And.
Lunchbox
And how did he discover that this was like a thing? Was he just playing outside?
Morgan
I think his older brother, like, he. And he just realized, oh, man, if I get on that next branch, I can touch the roof. And my whole thing is I'll sit there and watch him. And he's like, will you help me? I'm like, no, but if you do it, you do it and then can you help me get down? I'm like, no, you got up there so you can get down.
Lunchbox
Are you ever worried about them breaking bones or.
Morgan
Yeah, it's good. I mean, that happens.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Did you break a lot of bones?
Morgan
I broke my right arm twice, my left arm once.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
But those were the only ever crazy injuries you had.
Morgan
Yeah, that I can remember.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So you're not like, super worried about, like, really crazy things. You're like, break a bone.
Morgan
It happened. I mean, my. My baby box two, broke his arm when he was one and a half.
Lunchbox
Really?
Morgan
Yeah. He flipped off backwards off the playscape at the park, like, oh, my gosh.
Lunchbox
And he cried, I assume.
Morgan
Barely.
Lunchbox
Really?
Morgan
Yeah, he just kind of fell and then he grabbed me. He's like. And he starts trying to play, but then he wouldn't move his arm, like, hey, we might want to go get that looked out, bud.
Lunchbox
Do you feel like he was so.
Morgan
Small, the little, like, brace wouldn't even fit on his arm?
Lunchbox
Oh, yeah, one and a half.
Morgan
It was amazing.
Lunchbox
Do you feel like you're missing out not having a girl?
Morgan
I don't know any Difference. So how would I know if I'm missing out? I have no idea what would I be missing out on? So you're saying I had to trade one of my kids. No.
Lunchbox
Like, have another one. It's a girl.
Morgan
Oh, yeah.
Lunchbox
No, no, no.
Morgan
Like, if. If. If we. If my wife knew it would be a girl, she'd have been pregnant nine months ago.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
You know, or a year and a half ago or two years ago. She was just nervous about. She's just. She's just nervous about a fourth boy or now that we're older, twins.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So that's more common for people to have twins when you're older.
Morgan
Yeah. Because you're like a dumping more because you're. Your eggs are like, get out of here.
Lunchbox
Got it.
Morgan
Yeah. So it's a lot more little older you get, the more likely it is, and the more likely that they'll have health conditions is supposedly the.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
So she's very on the. Oh, my gosh. But she's, you know, I don't know. So that's all about her.
Lunchbox
So it's really like, if she says, like, yes, green light, go ahead. You're like, let's go. You're on board.
Morgan
Let's go.
Lunchbox
Do you just want the biggest family you can possibly have?
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
So you just keep going.
Morgan
If it was your way, not just.
Lunchbox
Keep going, I mean, like, would you be, like, cheaper by the dozen?
Morgan
No. No.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
Because that's child abuse.
Lunchbox
Okay, well, I'm trying to find your threshold, but, like.
Morgan
Like the Duggards. It's child abuse.
Lunchbox
How many do they have? Eight?
Morgan
I don't know.
Lunchbox
Or is that John and Kate plus eight?
Morgan
That's John and Kate plus eight.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
You want to watch Child Abuse? You can't even spend time with that. All those kids you don't even have time to. In, like, in a day's time, you would not be able to spend time with all your kids. You would miss 90% of their events or whatever they're doing. Because you have so many kids. There is no way you can give them the love and attention they need if you have that many kids, period. Period.
Lunchbox
That's a hot take. And I don't have an opinion. I don't have kids, so I have no idea. That's a hot take, though.
Morgan
Like, they are going to be raising themselves. The siblings are going to be raising the kids because you don't have enough time to.
Lunchbox
What? At what point would you stop then? Like, how many kids is too much?
Morgan
Ooh, I would say four. Is the max. Four is the max.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
I think five is when you get into that territory of man, you're gonna be missing a lot of things.
Lunchbox
Okay. All right, well, we're taking a quick break. We're coming back. We got more kid talk. We got more. More child stuff to talk about.
Morgan
Kid talk. Oh, what's that? Oh, mom talk. You ever seen that?
Lunchbox
No, I can't say that.
Morgan
That's the Mormons.
Lunchbox
Oh, okay. The Salt Lake City wives.
Morgan
Yeah. You want to tell me? Well, I don't know if it's okay.
Lunchbox
Wait, hold on. We'll come back.
Morgan
Yeah, we're gonna be back.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
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Lunchbox
Okay. Salt Lake City Wives. Is that one of your reality TV shows?
Morgan
No, no, no. It's called Real Lies of the Mormon Mom Talk, I think is what it's called.
Lunchbox
Mom talk is what you're talking about when them on TikTok.
Morgan
Yeah, but I think they're. I don't know what their show's called.
Lunchbox
Real Lives of Mormon Wives. I think you're right. The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Morgan
That's it. Let me tell you, that might be the dumbest show ever.
Lunchbox
Yeah. You know I tried to watch it because of Mom Talk.
Morgan
Exactly.
Lunchbox
So like pop culture. I think I got like half an episode and I was like, this is not for me.
Morgan
Ding, ding, ding. I was like, oh my gosh, we're going to hear all the scandal. We didn't hear anything about it. There's nothing about it.
Lunchbox
Wait, did you watch the whole thing?
Morgan
No.
Lunchbox
Or you just meant like you expected in the first episode and it didn't happen?
Morgan
I watched like two episodes and it was like this girl wasn't even part of the. The scandal. This one wasn't part of the scandal. And I'm like, well then why are they on the show?
Lunchbox
Yeah, I think it's interesting with reality TV especially.
Morgan
They hooked you in with the trailer saying, oh, the Scandal. The scandal. And then they. It's not even a part of. It is so stupid. Dumbest show ever. But I just saw that season two was coming. I'm like, I'm not watching it.
Lunchbox
So people obviously liked it.
Morgan
No, they didn't. They just need something to fill up the time.
Lunchbox
Oh, they made content.
Morgan
Yeah. Probably because she has a lot of whatever. TikTok followers. So they probably do watch it. But it's stupid because you don't even hear about the scandal.
Lunchbox
Yeah. What is your favorite? Okay, aside from Survivor. Real World Challenge. I know that's like your top.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
And like Team mom taking those away. Like Bravo. Let's focus more on Bravo reality tv. Do you watch any of those?
Morgan
No.
Lunchbox
Never got into that side of reality tv?
Morgan
No. I don't know what's on Bravo. Like what's Bravo? The Real Housewives. Is that what it is?
Lunchbox
Real Housewives is one you got below deck. You've got Southern Charm, the one that raised.
Morgan
Yeah, I've never watched that.
Lunchbox
I'm shocked. You never got into those type of shows?
Morgan
Given I watched Below Deck a couple times, like, but it's just I've never watched the whole season. I just catch episodes now and then. It's fine.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So do you like more competition based besides Teen Mom?
Morgan
Yes.
Lunchbox
I'm thinking of your reality TV shows then. You like competition based?
Morgan
Yeah. Like, I used to watch the Bachelor and Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise. It was awesome.
Lunchbox
Yeah, that has a competitive element to it.
Morgan
Right. But then I just. The Bachelor just got so. It was just such a big pop culture thing that I watched it.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
But the best is Bachelor in Paradise. That's the most fun. They kind of make fun. They even make fun of the Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise, Bachelorette, whatever it's called. And it's cheesy, and it's hilarious, and they're just sweating profusely in the sun and on the beat, like, they look miserable. That's the best one.
Lunchbox
Yeah. It used to be a major pop culture thing. I mean, I remember being in the sorority house, and we would. Every Monday night, everybody would be down there watching it together. But then I left college, and I kind of stopped caring.
Morgan
I think it just. It's kind of run its course.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
And I can't believe they still make it. It must still make money.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I think you still have diehard fans of it, for sure. That, and those people still come away with, like, massive followings.
Morgan
Yeah, I used. I mean, I used to live tweet it. Like, I mean, it was like. Oh, that was so big. It was. You live tweet it.
Lunchbox
I do remember that. And you used to. Because I would always film them. You do, like, Bachelor reviews every, like, Tuesday. Yeah, that was a thing.
Morgan
It was a big deal. But now I couldn't even tell you who the last Bachelor or Bachelorette. I don't know which one it was, who it was. I did just see they announced another Golden Bachelor.
Lunchbox
Okay. Now that I do find those ones interesting, I feel like that's a better spin on doing something different with that franchise.
Morgan
I'm surprised the older people want to be on that show. But I guess older people want to be famous, too, huh?
Lunchbox
I mean, if you think about it, they're not really.
Morgan
Stop. They're not looking for love.
Lunchbox
No, no, no. I mean, if you think about it, like, they're. They've been around for the rise of social media.
Morgan
That's true.
Lunchbox
And I've seen, like, older influencers. Yeah, Heck, I've seen. I'm pretty sure she's, like, 93, and she's, like, a fitness influencer. I love her. She's hilarious.
Morgan
That's funny.
Lunchbox
And she just, like. It's all about, like, getting older people. Like, you should be moving your body. I don't think she's 93. I think she might be in her 80s, but.
Morgan
Okay. You just aged her.
Lunchbox
Sorry. I don't know.
Morgan
You aged her by a decade.
Lunchbox
She could be 93. I can't remember, but she's awesome. She looks like she's, like, in her 60s.
Morgan
That's pretty cool.
Lunchbox
It's fun to watch her. So I do think some of that happened with the rise of social media.
Morgan
That could be a.
Lunchbox
So I think you do have people wanting to put themselves out there.
Morgan
Yeah, I've never. I've never watched an episode, so I don't know how.
Lunchbox
Did you watch the original Golden Bachelor? No, I'm kind of surprised you didn't.
Morgan
Since you did, like, the Bachelor thing is that. That ship has sailed.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
See, it's out there in the ocean, never coming back.
Lunchbox
Got it.
Morgan
I'm not. I'm out of that one.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
I think I lost it during, like, Covid is really when I was like, okay, this is just dumb.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I feel like I understand you a little better now about your reality tv. Why Teen mom, though? Because Teen mom wasn't.
Morgan
I was just on MTV and it looked awesome, and it was like, culture. No, no. 16 and pregnant was the original, but.
Lunchbox
Then Teen mom came after.
Morgan
Yeah. But it was girls from 16 and pregnant, so I wanted to see the update.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
Want to see where they were at?
Lunchbox
And it was kind of a pop culture thing for everybody watching.
Morgan
It was huge.
Lunchbox
I watched it.
Morgan
Yes, people. Everybody watched it. We got millions of people per week, you know, and that's on mtv. That tells you that it is huge.
Lunchbox
You know my favorite thing that I used to watch on mtv, and I don't know why it was my favorite, but it was funny. And it was back in this time frame.
Morgan
And it was a reality show.
Lunchbox
Yeah, it involved a bus.
Morgan
It involved a bus.
Lunchbox
I'll tell you, because you're probably not going to get it. Next. Where it was, like, the dating show.
Morgan
I watched that. I watched that. I was great.
Lunchbox
I loved.
Morgan
That was a good show. That was a good show.
Lunchbox
I was so entertained by it, and I don't know why, but I loved that show.
Morgan
That's funny. I did watch that. I watched next. I know exactly what you're talking about now. Okay, that's really funny. Involved a bus. I forgot all about it.
Lunchbox
I know you would have said it.
Morgan
Involves a bus, and I would have. I would have been like, what?
Lunchbox
I know.
Morgan
Didn't even think.
Lunchbox
Come out and they, like, put, like, their little thing on the card and then they'd get next so quickly, and I was like, dang.
Morgan
They just walk out the bus next. Right back up on the bus. Pretty funny.
Lunchbox
So harsh, but yeah.
Morgan
So did you ever watch Elimidate or anything like that? Oh, yeah.
Lunchbox
Oh, yeah.
Morgan
Oh, yeah. Those were good.
Lunchbox
I was fascinated with MTV back then because I was young still, like, I want to say I was, gosh, 13, 14, super, like, impressionable watching that.
Morgan
Yeah, Punk was on MTV.
Lunchbox
Yeah, I watched Punk.
Morgan
Now, did you watch. Did you ever watch Boiling Points? Yes, that was fantastic.
Lunchbox
That's a throwback that, like, you. You know when you, like, file something away and it's just back there and somebody has to pull it out? That's what you just did.
Morgan
To me, I thought Boiling Points was so good because they'd set up those scenarios, and if you don't blow a gasket in a certain amount of time, they go, all right, we're. You're on boiling points. Here's 500. It was so funny. I was like, that is something I wanted. I would love to do that.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
To work at a store and be able to just screw with people and just have them blow up. Oh, it'd be so fun.
Lunchbox
Not physically blow up, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Morgan
Not physically blow up. Yeah. I think. I think people. I don't think anybody listening to this.
Lunchbox
Well, thought.
Morgan
I meant really have them blow up, you know? No, no.
Lunchbox
I did some crazy things back in the 90s.
Morgan
I'm pretty sure our listeners aren't that dumb.
Lunchbox
I'm not saying they're dumb, but I'm just saying, like, you say blow up like, it could mean a lot of things.
Morgan
You're right. They blow up like a puffer fish. They could blow up, like. Yeah, but no crazy things.
Lunchbox
Back in, like, that television time, there was wild stuff on tv. Heck, we were rejecting somebody out of a bus. Like, there was crazy things happening.
Morgan
That was great. No, singled out was great.
Lunchbox
Wait, singled out? Which one was that?
Morgan
Oh, my goodness. That's where they would go on stage. They'd walk by. I mean, come on.
Lunchbox
I don't think you may be too young.
Morgan
Oh, man.
Lunchbox
Hey, we were doing. We were doing really good, though. First.
Morgan
Yeah, we were. We were on the same page. And then all of a sudden, it's okay. It's all right. It happens. You know what I mean? Age gap. You know what I mean? How old are you?
Lunchbox
I'm 31.
Morgan
I'm not. I'm only third. No, wait. I'm only 12 years older than you.
Lunchbox
How old are you?
Morgan
30. 43.
Lunchbox
Wanted to be in your 30s. 43?
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So 12 years.
Morgan
Yeah. That's not bad. When's your birthday in October?
Lunchbox
October 6th.
Morgan
Okay.
Lunchbox
In 93.
Morgan
Okay. Never mind, because I'm about to turn 44 in July, so almost 13.
Lunchbox
You're like 12 and a half.
Morgan
12 years, three months.
Lunchbox
Yeah, something like that.
Morgan
Yeah. It's not bad. Okay. All right. See? All right.
Lunchbox
It's just more funny like when you were talking about high school and graduating, and I was like, I was still kind of a toddler.
Morgan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was weird. That was weird. That was a little bit strange.
Lunchbox
No, it's okay.
Morgan
No, because you'd have been eight when I graduated high school.
Lunchbox
You said 1999, right? Yeah, no, that was six.
Morgan
Oh, I thought you were my brother. Graduated.
Lunchbox
Sorry. I did. Well, you said 1999. When did you graduate high school?
Morgan
99.
Lunchbox
Yeah. 19. I was 6. I was born in 93.
Morgan
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Like, I. I play soccer. Like, there's one girl on my team.
Lunchbox
And is it my friend?
Morgan
No, not. Not your friend. Different girl.
Lunchbox
Because she's younger than me.
Morgan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this girl, we were talking, she's like, yeah, something about graduating high school. I was like, oh, what year did you graduate? And she's like, oh, I graduated high school in 2019. I'm like, what?
Lunchbox
You're like, dang. Is that your moment where you're like. I'm like, okay, I should probably retire from this.
Morgan
I'm like, what do you mean? You graduated in 2000? Yeah. I'm like, oh, my gosh. That's crazy.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
So she's like, 25 right now, and I'm like, that is weird.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
She holds your friend Jamie.
Lunchbox
I want to think. I want to say she's 27.
Morgan
Okay. Yeah. I don't know.
Lunchbox
She's turning. She's about to turn 28. Somewhere in there.
Morgan
Somewhere in there.
Lunchbox
Okay, I know, I know. It's crazy. Even when I talk to her, there's, like, moments where I'm like, dang, I'm old. And she's only, like, four years younger than me.
Morgan
Yeah, that happens, man. Happens quick. I know, Tear.
Lunchbox
I know. It's okay. But you're. You're young and fun. You're fine.
Morgan
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm young and fun. Can I get a nap? I'm tired.
Lunchbox
I feel that I need a nap all the time.
Morgan
Like, you wonder how old I am.
Lunchbox
Yeah, tell me how old you are.
Morgan
Like on Easter, like, we got done doing whatever we were doing all this, and I mean, we. We finally. All right, kids, you gotta take a nap. And I sat down on the couch and I slept like this, just sitting straight up and laid my head back on the back of the couch and fell asleep.
Lunchbox
How long were you asleep for?
Morgan
An hour.
Lunchbox
Yeah. You're a dad.
Morgan
I was so tired.
Lunchbox
Lunchbox. Let me just paint a picture for you. Every time my dad would come home from work, we'd come home from school, we would find him in the same place, in the same position on the couch doing exactly what you just did.
Morgan
Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I. I understand. And I used to wonder how my parents slept through all the things we did. And now I get it.
Lunchbox
Our favorite thing. Our poor father. Our favorite thing was going and finding ways to wake him up because he would. He would always get, like. He would do this. Like we call. Terry had his moments where he literally, like, if we scared him awake enough, his whole body would react. Like, you'd think an earthquake just happened.
Morgan
That's so mean.
Lunchbox
So we would always wake him up, like, in loud noises. We'd bang on pots and pans. We'd set off, like, our alarms near him.
Morgan
Would he wake up mad? I can imagine. So I can already know. I can already picture it. Yeah. I mean, I was in class one time in college, Dr. Wyclep. It was some business class, and I fell asleep with my head down, you know, and something. I must have been dreaming or something. And I woke up and grabbed the air, and I look. And my whole row was looking at me. I was like, oh, my God, So embarrassing. And I fell asleep one time in a big auditorium, and my pen fell, started rolling down the stairs. And that's like, oh, my God. It's like, oh, hey, let me know. You were sleeping in my class. That let me know. You were slee. Sleeping in my class.
Lunchbox
That is the worst in general does ever falling asleep in public anywhere. And you have like a. Yeah, I want to call it like an alarm awake, where your body just, like, freaks out. It's so embarrassing because, you know, somebody sees it.
Morgan
Somebody has to see it.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Like your body is spasming.
Morgan
I'll tell you what I used to do. And people thought I was crazy, but if I had time in between classes, I'd go to the library, get on one of those couches and go to sleep.
Lunchbox
Really?
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
For how long?
Morgan
Hour.
Lunchbox
And you just sleep? Well, I guess the library was quiet. Had to be.
Morgan
Yeah. And people are like, well, what about everybody looking at you? I don't care. I'm asleep. Like, literally, it's right. You'd walk up the stairs and they'd have couches around, you know, and I just go in there and I just get a couch.
Lunchbox
You know, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Morgan
Like, you're tired, like, worn out, and you have like two hours in between classes you don't want to go back to. You know, I'll just lay down.
Lunchbox
That's funny.
Morgan
I'm weird.
Lunchbox
No, you're not weird.
Morgan
I just like naps.
Lunchbox
I'm with you. I love a good nap. Like, we talk about you napping all the time. I'm pretty sure I nap on the same amount that you do. And I don't even have kids.
Morgan
Yeah. Oh, just wait.
Lunchbox
I love napping. No, that. That concerns me. Whenever I talk to my mom about having kids, I'm like. But I really like sleep. Like, I really like sleep.
Morgan
Oh, you're gonna be a nightmare.
Lunchbox
Yeah, yeah.
Morgan
It's hard, but it's. I mean, the naps. What people don't understand is when you have newborns, like when you have younger kids nap when they nap, and it's like, oh, I gotta do laundry. Screw the laundry. Like, don't do the laundry. Napping is more important when they nap so you can survive and I can't. Like, everybody asked me, oh, what's your advice for having a kid? Like, you know, Kevin's having kid, like, dude, sleep when the baby sleeps. If they take a nap at 12 o'clock, lay down and take a nap. Don't worry about the dishes. You can do with the dishes when the kid is awake because you don't have to. I'm telling you, you got to get your sleep.
Lunchbox
No, that's. That's a fair point. I'll be coming to you at some point in my life, hopefully.
Morgan
Yeah, we got about seven years.
Lunchbox
Yeah, we got some time. I'm in no rush. I'm okay.
Morgan
Well, I mean, you are 33 now.
Lunchbox
I'm 31.
Morgan
Oh, 31.
Lunchbox
That was rude.
Morgan
Sorry.
Lunchbox
You. You wanted to take shots because you always get taken shots at. Fine.
Morgan
Yes. I want you to just, like, go, here goes your mom jokes. Your dumb mom jokes. I want. I. Hurry up, hurry up.
Lunchbox
It's not the same thing.
Morgan
It is.
Lunchbox
Mom jokes don't happen. Like, dad jokes happen.
Morgan
Oh, here we go. Here we go. Mom jokes are so much better.
Lunchbox
No, no, no, it's not that. It's just that, like, dad. I love dad jokes. That's what you guys fail to have realized. Like, my dad is so funny, and I love when he cracks jokes. So when you guys do it, it's so entertaining for me.
Morgan
Okay.
Lunchbox
But I just give you guys a hard time because it's the same thing I do to my dad. I'm like, really, dad? Like, why did you just tell that random stranger that joke? Why? Was that necessary? Yeah, it's just a dad thing.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
It's not a. It's not a. A shot fired at you guys. That's what you guys don't realize. It's endearing to me.
Morgan
One of my favorite jokes.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
That I do everywhere. And my wife. It's like, you gotta stop. Like, no one finds it funny.
Lunchbox
What's. What's a joke? Can you say it?
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
Everybody, you know. Oh, you know, like, you're checking into a hotel or you're at the grocery store or wherever.
Lunchbox
Okay. We're talking to the random employee. Okay, Got it.
Morgan
Yeah, exactly. This is the joke. It's great. They're like, how you doing today? I'm like, looking good. That's half the battle. And my wife's like, no one likes that.
Lunchbox
Did they ever laugh?
Morgan
Oh, yeah, they laugh a lot. Like, some people. I'm gonna steal that one. I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna use that. That's right.
Lunchbox
And how often, though, is it that dudes are the ones that are like, yeah, I'm gonna steal that?
Morgan
No, never. It's always women.
Lunchbox
It's always women that.
Morgan
Oh, yeah, women.
Lunchbox
Do you think they actually steal it?
Morgan
Probably not.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
But it's a great. It's a great line. I'm looking good. That's half the battle.
Lunchbox
It is a very dad thing to just randomly crack jokes at strangers. Yeah, like, that's part of the thing.
Morgan
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Yeah. It's endearing. It's entertaining. I mean, like, your kids will make fun of you for it one day, but that's great. That's part.
Morgan
And then they're gonna do it one day because that's how dad did it.
Lunchbox
You know, my funny dad. My funniest dad moment. I will. Like, in recent years, that happened when I was, like, so embarrassed by my dad. We went to Lowe's together, and he used one of his gift cards, and he was so excited. Like, he loves using his Lowe's gift cards, and he uses it. And the guy's like, okay, yeah, it's gone. And he's, like, going to throw it away. My dad's like, no, no, no, don't throw it away. I'm looking at my dad. I'm like, what do you. What do you need that for? He's like, I don't know. I Just, I want it back. And he, like, yelled at this poor employee over. He yelled at this poor employee over a freaking gift card. And I literally, like, mortified. I was mortified. I was like, dad, we walked out of that store and looked at my dad. You, one, don't need the gift card. And two, don't yell at the poor guy. Just next time be like, hey, man, can I have that back? Like, he had his dad.
Morgan
Well, he had to yell because he was gonna throw it in the trash. And once it's in the trash, it's gone, apparently.
Lunchbox
But, like, you can't get back in the trash. Grab it out.
Morgan
Well, no, the trash. Pretty gross.
Lunchbox
I hear you. But yeah, this is.
Morgan
That's like, when we were in Pigeon Forge and my kids, we went to this thing called Magiquest and it, like, had a little gift card or whatever.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Morgan
And they go to throw. No, no, no. We know there's a play at home. And I'm like, what do you. What do you mean? And so I use it as their credit card at home, like when they grocery shop.
Lunchbox
See?
Morgan
But they did the same thing. They yelled at the person. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. So it's just not your dad.
Lunchbox
Okay, but, like, have you done this before?
Morgan
No, I don't care about gift cards.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Morgan
I don't need an empty gift card.
Lunchbox
You're gonna have your moment, though. Like, this, the other thing that's happened as he's, like, in his, like, older. As we've gotten older. Sticky things. He hates sticky things. And I think it's because we used to be so sticky as kids. Like, we'd always get over. But now we really like messing with my dad.
Morgan
Do you ever mess with your mom?
Lunchbox
No, it's not as fun.
Morgan
Oh, my gosh. See your dad. That's unfair.
Lunchbox
But it's cause my dad messes with us back.
Morgan
I don't know.
Lunchbox
Oh, he does. Trust me. You know how many times I got, like, he would blare air horns in my ear to wake me up as a kid.
Morgan
That's cause he didn't want you to miss the bus.
Lunchbox
No, he did it on purpose, okay? And he'd come and, like, scare us by knocking on our window and running away. Like, trust me, this is a mutual prank experience.
Morgan
Okay?
Lunchbox
But sticky things bother him. And so anytime we go somewhere, we're using, like, a sticky thing, and he gets. He'll eat, and then he'll, like, go to the bathroom and wash his hands, and then we put sticky stuff on the table. So when he comes back, there's more sticky stuff. And then he has sticky, flashy his hands. And most of the time he doesn't know those. He just thinks that, like, he left the sticky stuff behind.
Morgan
That's so mean.
Lunchbox
No, this is a thing he gets. I'm not kidding. He like touches it for a second. He's like, sticky hands. He like freaks out. So funny.
Morgan
That's interesting that sticky hands is what. Yeah, my father in law doesn't like dirt on like, he, like, he.
Lunchbox
And I think it has to do with, like raising kids. And like, you had so much of this at one point that now it's like, I'm good. I don't need any more.
Morgan
That's pretty funny.
Lunchbox
So things to look forward to.
Morgan
Yeah, well, I mean, nothing bothers me, so I don't care.
Lunchbox
Dirt. I do hope your kids, like, prank you.
Morgan
I do too.
Lunchbox
I hope the same stories I'm sharing.
Morgan
Are they like, oh, they already do it. They already stand behind the corner and wait real quietly. And I come around the corner. Ah, God. And they're like, did I scare the crap out of you? I'm like, yeah, you did. See?
Lunchbox
It's a fun relationship.
Morgan
It's hilarious.
Lunchbox
So all that to say endearing. I find dad stuff endearing.
Morgan
Like they. And they have gotten so good at standing there quietly, like, and they'll sit there and wait for 20 minutes.
Lunchbox
I know.
Morgan
And it's like, I'm sitting there. All right, walk out. Boo.
Lunchbox
See, I love this. I love this for you. Yeah, it's pretty fun dad life.
Morgan
My wife does not like it. She's gonna have a heart attack.
Lunchbox
Well, you know, the moms have to be the ones that are cool. Cause when the dads are pranking with the kids, it's always a thing. Yeah, it's part of the experience. All right, we're jumping out of here.
Morgan
Bye, guys.
Lunchbox
Lunchbox. Thanks for being here.
Morgan
Oh, man. Nap time. That's the best bits of the week with Morgan. Thanks for listening. Be sure to check out the other two parts this weekend. Go follow the show on all social platforms obbyboneshow and follow ebgirlmorgan to submit your listener questions for next week's episode.
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Summary of "The Bobby Bones Show" Episode: Dad Stories and How Lunchbox & Morgan Behaved in School
Host: Premiere Networks
Episode Title: Dad Stories and How Lunchbox & Morgan Behaved in School
Release Date: April 26, 2025
In this engaging episode of The Bobby Bones Show, hosts Lunchbox and Morgan dive deep into nostalgic and humorous tales from Morgan's school days, exploring themes of discipline, family dynamics, and parenting styles. The conversation is rich with anecdotes, laughter, and insightful reflections that resonate with listeners who appreciate candid discussions about growing up and raising a family.
Timestamp: [03:18] – [06:07]
Morgan shares a vivid story from his high school years about a particularly memorable punishment he received for wearing an inappropriate t-shirt. The shirt bore the word "Syphilis" in cursive, accompanied by a quirky design that made it both uncomfortable and socially awkward.
Morgan: “I had a necklace that had an image on it that was very weird. And it was so annoying because Mike D. Bought a necklace. It was way too small, so it was really choking my neck.” ([03:33])
Lunchbox: “I’m glad your punishment is over. For your sake.”
Morgan describes the physical discomfort of his attire and the social repercussions, including snickers and curious glances from peers. The punishment extended beyond merely wearing the shirt; it involved coercive interactions with school authorities.
Timestamp: [12:20] – [19:35]
Morgan recounts his interaction with an assistant principal who confronted him about his shirt. The principal's attempts to obtain Morgan's parents' work numbers led to a humorous and somewhat absurd exchange, highlighting Morgan's laid-back attitude toward authority.
Assistant Principal: “Do you know why we need to talk about this?”
Morgan: “No, I’ve got no clue, man.” ([13:30])
Despite the principal's stern demeanor, Morgan remains unfazed, ultimately convincing him to allow him to stay in school by simply turning his shirt inside out.
Timestamp: [26:08] – [31:18]
The conversation shifts to Morgan's family, emphasizing the supportive and humorous nature of his parents. Morgan highlights how his family's sense of humor defused tense situations, such as when his parents responded to the school's concerns with lightheartedness.
Lunchbox reflects on the generational differences in parenting styles, noting how Morgan inherited his parents' easygoing and prank-loving traits, which influence his approach to raising his own children.
Timestamp: [33:00] – [43:04]
Lunchbox and Morgan delve into their respective parenting philosophies. Morgan advocates for a relaxed approach, allowing children to explore and learn independence, while Lunchbox discusses balancing freedom with necessary boundaries.
Morgan: “We never put up baby gates. We never put locks on the cabinets. We never did anything.” ([33:48])
Lunchbox: “I love a good nap... Whenever I talk to my mom about having kids, I’m like…” ([57:23])
They share stories illustrating their methods, such as allowing toddlers to climb trees under watchful eyes or managing household chores in a way that fosters responsibility without overbearing supervision.
Timestamp: [51:12] – [60:19]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to humorous anecdotes about family interactions, particularly involving pranks and dad jokes. Morgan and Lunchbox exchange funny stories about waking up parents with air horns, sticky substances, and playful tricks that keep family life lively and entertaining.
Morgan: “Every time my dad would come home... I’d just lay down and take a nap.” ([54:11])
Lunchbox: “It’s endearing to me.” ([60:19])
Morgan shares his love for dad jokes, amusingly noting how his wife doesn’t always appreciate them, while Lunchbox highlights the generational charm of such humor.
Timestamp: [64:03] – [67:14]
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts reflect on their own upbringing compared to their experiences as parents. Morgan emphasizes the importance of allowing children to make mistakes and learn from them, while Lunchbox discusses the balance between humor and discipline in raising well-adjusted kids.
Morgan: “When you have newborns, like when you have younger kids nap when they nap... you gotta get your sleep.” ([57:26])
Lunchbox: “Our kids will make fun of you for it one day, but that’s great.” ([60:19])
They conclude with heartfelt thoughts on the joys and challenges of parenting, underscoring the value of laughter and flexibility in fostering strong family bonds.
This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a heartfelt and humorous exploration of Morgan's school experiences and parenting journey. Through candid storytelling and playful banter, Lunchbox and Morgan provide listeners with relatable insights into balancing discipline with fun, the importance of family support, and the enduring impact of generational traits. Whether reminiscing about awkward school days or navigating the challenges of raising children, the hosts deliver an engaging and entertaining narrative that celebrates the complexities of family life.
For more episodes and insightful conversations, visit Premiere Networks or tune into The Bobby Bones Show on your preferred podcast platform.