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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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What's up, y'? All? This is Dylan Marlowe. Yeah, it's definitely tough because you see, like, a lot of other things get glorified in this industry where you're like, what the heck? Like, that would be super easy for me to go do that. I want to headline arenas and stadiums. You know, that's, like, the goal. But I want to do it the way God wants me to do it and not the way I want to do it. Like, you know, the fruits that I carry by. By when you look at it or when you meet me or when you talk to me. Like, that's my goal. I want people to know, like, okay, this is what Dylan's about, and this is the upload.
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Man. How are you? How's everything?
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Good. It's been great. Finally slowing down for the year.
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Slowing down, bro, you're expecting twins.
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B
Yeah, I know. Well, the music slowing down. The parenting's about to pick up, man.
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I'm so excited for you. That was one thing that I was so excited to talk to you about today, because I just feel like, the mindset of becoming a parent. Yeah, man. What a weight that just carries.
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Crazy.
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So excited.
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I'm ready, though. I'm excited.
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Well, if you don't know, Dylan, Marlo is on the upload today, and I'm so excited to chat with you and dive into you about just lots of things, but I want to first start off our conversation with just talking about the word faith.
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B
Yeah.
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It means such different things to so many different people, and I'm just curious what that word means to you specifically.
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I think it's like, faith, to me is just like, believing what you can't physically see with your eyes, but just, like, knowing in your heart, like, believing what you believe in your heart.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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One of the things that I love about faith is just, like you said, you can't see it, but you believe it. And my little brother actually was recently talking about just, like, Jesus and faith and that kind of stuff, and he's like, you do realize you guys sound crazy, right? And I was just like, yeah, we do.
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Yeah. But, yeah, no, it's either. Yeah, I saw something yesterday. I probably butcher it, but it was just like, we either believe in something. Some lunatic dude who this whole thing's crazy, or we believe in, like, just the most perfect person that's ever walked on the Earth. And, you know, I like to believe that one.
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Yeah. The one that's kind. I don't want to be wrong. Okay.
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For sure.
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When it comes to faith specifically, we all have different walks as Christians in what we, you know, how we go about things. When, when did FAI become like real for you? Where you got to choose faith, where it was your decision?
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Yeah, probably, maybe when I moved out of my parents house. Not that they like held me back or anything. I think you just get so many decisions that you have to make on your own, you know. I was literally thinking about this story last night for some reason while I was trying to fall asleep the day that I like got saved because I had been like baptized as a kid but didn't really feel like it was my decision, you know. And I'll never Forget her name's Ms. Kim. She was my roommate's mom and she was always like kind of taking me to church and like always hinting like when are you gonna give your life? You know. And then one day I was like, alright, today I'm gonna do it. You know, as soon as at the end the preacher's like, alright, whoever wants to put their hand up. I was like, I'm gonna do it. And they didn't say it that day. So we were walking in the car and in the parking lot and she was like, have you put any more thought into it? I was like, well I was going to today but like, you know, he didn't ask. And she was like, she grabbed my shirt and just ripped me right back into the church and ripped all the way back to the pastor's like office, you know, where he was after sermon. She was like, we gotta do this right now, you know.
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What a sweet friend.
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Yeah.
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That is so special to have those kind of people in your life because I feel like so many people are, are scared to ask those questions. And especially surrounding yourself with community of you know, a friend's mom that'll be.
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Like, hey, no, it was, it was really funny. Yeah.
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When you think back, just kind of growing up, is there someone in your life that just kind of models like what Jesus looks like for you growing up?
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I would say probably my papa, like my dad's dad. Yeah.
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Do you guys have a good relationship?
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It was, yeah, I think so. We, we weren't too like tight cuz we lived always like an hour away. But that was always who I kind of like in my head imagery like that's who represented Jesus the most to me.
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Do you ever think about that like going towards like, you know, the, the I guess like the incline in your life and, and growing in Christ that you're going to be that for someone else.
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I hope so. I hope I am. Feel like he was very patient and very. Just kind of like the role model for that.
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Yeah.
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For me. Yeah.
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I was just thinking about your Instagram bio and how I love when you. You see people just declare it boldly and don't have any, you know, second guessing about it. And I love that you have Proverbs 16:3 in your Instagram bio. Commit your work to the Lord and your plans will be established.
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Yeah.
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Why did you choose that one?
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Because I feel like in this, like, industry, it's easy to like, commit your work to yourself, you know, or to try to. And I still like, struggle with that. Just giving the. Giving the work, like all this, all the labor and stuff to God, you know, And I don't know, it's like with what we do, it's just there's two different ends of the spectrum, you know? So I feel like for me, when I, whenever I can just commit my plans to him, he shows. And it might not be like the answer you're looking for, you know, but he shows his presence everywhere. Everywhere, every time.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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And being a musician, like you said, it's. It's all about you, right? You're on stage, people are watching you. And, you know, when you think about your purpose as a musician and trying to put yourself kind of to the side, what vision do you see for yourself? What purpose do you see for yourself?
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I think just like being a light maybe in such like a dark industry. And yeah, it's definitely tough because you see like a lot of other things get glorified in this industry where you're like, what the heck? Like, that would be super easy for me to go do that. And, you know, it probably get super mega viral, this, this, you know, But I just, yeah, I feel like at the end of the day I want to make sure that what, with what I'm doing, it's just putting off what you, like, you know, the fruits that I carry by, by when, when you look at it or when you meet me or when you talk to me, like that's my goal. I want people to know, like, okay, this is what Dylan's about. And if it takes me a little longer to get to where I want to be because of that, you know, same, like, commit your plans to the Lord, like, he'll take care of it, you know, if, if, if this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing, one day he'll tell me. Or if it is, I feel like it is I feel like I have a calling on my life to do music, but I. I want to be like a. I've had kids ask me before. Like, I think I was doing, like, a photo shoot somewhere at my buddy's farm, and this little kid was like, Mr. Dylan, I have a question. When. When you wrote Hungover in a Deer Stand, were you drunk the night before? And I was like, well, those are questions I, like, don't think about, you know? And I'm like, I don't know if that's what I want to be known for, you know? Yeah. I want to be known for other stuff than that.
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But what a sweet realization, too, where it's like, you know, you do get caught up in things and you're gonna say things, and we all say things that are for sure. And you look back, like you said, and you're like, wait a second.
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Yeah, I have a lot of hot takes. Yeah, it's. It's. I could get into it for sure, but.
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Yeah, well, I want to go into those hot takes and things about those. Like, what are some of those other things in your career where you're. Man, I really shouldn't have.
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Yeah. Like, I just. I don't know. Like, we. We. In between our last podcast and now, like, there was a time where we got kicked out of this, like, festival for what I was. It was completely, like, on whatever. Like, we were watching from the.
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Oh, the security. I remember this video, okay.
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Doing absolutely, like, nothing wrong, you know? But when I posted that video, I was so angry because, I mean, it was a pride. It was probably a lot of pride, like, getting kicked out for all these people. You're like, what? Like, I just played this.
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You're like, I'm Dylan Marlowe.
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And I posted it, and everybody thought it was hilarious and funny and cool and, like, gained so many followers from this one video of controversy, you know? And then I went to bed on it, and I was just. I had this uneasy feeling. Like, man, I just. That's like. I don't know if I want to be known for that. Like, I don't know. I just. In the back of my mind, it just didn't feel right, you know? Even though I probably could have left it up and got, like, 10, 20,000 more followers from that. That one video. And I hate that I even posted it. At first, I was. It was in a moment of, like, probably anger and pride that kind of took over, you know? And most people will watch this back. It's not that big of a deal, dude. But to me, I would rather be known for a song that comes out that just does great as a song than a dude who got controversy. If you're getting kicked out of festival. Yeah.
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Viral video.
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So, like, those are the things that are tough that you kind of look and you see it all over the place, and you're like, I could easily just dive into that and. But I don't know if there's as much fulfillment from that. You know, I told Nat the other day, I've had more fulfillment for leading worship to, like, 30 people in a rehab center than I have any show I've ever played.
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I believe it.
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You know, I'm still, like, navigating. I mean, I'm honestly in a. Been in a spot of weird, like, just, like, how things kind of have been shaping. Like, what do I want? Like, what do I want to do? Seriously, what do I. What are my goals? Have they changed? I think my goals are still the same to, like, I want to headline arenas and stadiums. You know, that's like, the goal. But I want to do it the way God wants me to do it and not the way I want to do it.
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And I think there's something so special about something you said earlier where you said, I don't care if it takes me longer than everybody else.
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Yeah.
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And that. That conviction of the Holy Spirit to just be like, let me lead.
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Yeah.
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And just follow me and completely put yourself back. I mean, it's. It's such a hard thing to do. And I think that's one thing, too, that people don't realize. Like, if you're not a Christian or you don't have any specific beliefs, it's hard to think about, like, well, why don't you want to get what you want? Or, why don't you want to do what you want? And it's hard to explain, but when you have those convictions from the Holy Spirit, you're like, okay, then I'm not.
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Yeah, it's not about us or our time, and for sure. And I feel like the world has just created this insanely. Just, like, it's all about you. Like, go. Go do what makes you happy. Go do this. Like, yeah, we. We. God wants us to be happy. You know, he wants us to do things that we enjoy. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm. The older I get becoming a dad now, Like, I think, what do I want my kids to see? You know? And this isn't like a judgmental thing to anybody. Totally. You know, it's just, like, for me Personally, what I've seen and grown in my faith in the last couple months is just. There's just more to it. You know, there's more to all this than just being an artist or, you know, it gets to be a co. I get to do. I think it's my call. I feel like that's what I've been called to do. There's just more to it, though, and.
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I think you're right. I think you do have this special calling on your life, because specifically, just in the middle of a show, you're like, you know what? I feel like playing a worship song in a bar. Or, you know, people are drinking, people are having a good time, and you're like, you know what? Let's spend a little bit of time with Jesus. And I think it's such a special thing because people are like, well, why would you do that? And it's like, Jesus hung out with the sinners.
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Yeah.
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He wants. He wants to reach everybody. So I think that's such a cool thing for you to do. And, I mean, it really takes a lot of guts to do something like that.
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Yeah. I think one part of the calling is, like, going into those places, but then there also comes, like, you have to just be so, like. Because it's so easy to go into these environments and then lose sight of that. You just have to be so strongly, like, disciplined. And, like, I fall short of that sometimes. You know? Sometimes, like, me and Connor talked, like, you know, it's not like, we don't always throw, like, a worship thing, and they're just. If the Lord throws it on our heart, you know, like, the thing in Athens was a tragedy that week. It just felt heavy, but, like, it's a dark. The road's a dark place. Yeah. So sometimes I'm like, God, why are you, like, throwing me in these places? Like, maybe, you know, I feel like he wants me to be a light, but then it's. It's tough to be a light sometimes because you're like, man, the last thing I want to do is play a worship song right now when everybody's getting hammered and drinking. And, like, you know, you're like, is it gonna ruin the thing? Like, is it going to be weird? You know, and then.
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Yeah, that's spiritual.
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It's. It's. It's warfare. And you're like. You're singing the three songs up to it. You're, like, not even thinking about those. You're just thinking about that, you know? So, yeah.
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Such a cool perspective to think about. Because it's just like, even daily stuff, right? You're like, you have things to do, but there's that one thing that God keeps telling you to do, and you're not even thinking about those three things. You're just thinking about that one thing. Like, what are people going to think of me is they're going to think I'm weird.
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Yeah. I think that the one verse that has just got me through, and I can't. I don't know exactly where what verse it is. I just know the Scripture itself. It's. It's. I think it's in Matthew, actually. I could probably open my Bible and point it to underline, highlighted, everything.
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Yeah.
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But it's just. It's when Jesus just said, hey, if the world hates you, it hated me first, you know, so people might get weird by things you do as a Christian, or they might look down on or look different, but, like, they hated Jesus first, who literally threw his life on the line for us, so. Or gave his life for us, you know, and there's just nothing that. I think we're. I think we're all going to get to heaven one day and not worry once about what somebody thought about us. We're probably going to wish we would have done more.
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Isn't it so funny how this. I feel like it's called, like, the Instagram culture, right? We all are looking to just all of these affirmations from other people and how exhausting that can be.
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Yeah, yeah. We. I'm in this. Like, I do some counseling, and it's actually a place in Nashville called Rock House, so if anybody needs that, they're great. But we were talking about, like, what. Why as an artist or really, like a lot of influencers nowadays, there's a lot of people, a lot of people and jobs that you receive a lot of glory from. And so we were just kind of talking, like, how do you not receive that glory? And it's like, well, I think the only way to not receive glory from people and. Because what happens is you get glory from people and then that's all you look for. You know, you don't look for it. And I saw, like, this, just, like, cup this, like, tank. And I called it the glory tank. And I just wrote a note of it, and it's like, if I go out there on stage, which I'm not saying I'm perfect by this, by any means, like, I'm guilty of it being half full or not even full, but before I go out on stage or before you do anything where you're going to receive glory. Like, if your glory tank isn't 100% full from God, then people are going to fill whatever's left in that gap, even if it's 10%, you know? So I just think before I go on stage, before I go do things, like, I got to spend time with the Lord and I got to feel like glory tank is evident and obvious when I don't, you know, because then I start looking for, like, is this guy. This guy looks like he's bored during the show. What the heck? I think it's a good show. Or like, this guy's got his arms crossed. Is he worried about me? And then, you know, the shows where the glory tank is full, I'm not looking for if. If Johnny down there doesn't think I'm country enough, or if Billy over there ain't. Ain't happy. You know, it's like, nah, like, we're.
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That's such.
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This is where I'm. This is the connection here. Not. Not here. And I get to entertain and, like, go out here and do this. So, like, I. I think part of that pressure is, like, making sure we do that for the fans and putting on a good show. But then you could. I think you could tell when the glory is coming from the right place, from God, because then you're unable to accept that from anybody else.
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Right. Then it just doesn't matter.
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Yeah.
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I think that's so good. What an illustration. The glory tank.
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Yeah.
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Keep your glory tank full.
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Yeah.
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Keep all the other, you know, other stuff out. The fake fuel. We don't need any of the fake fuel in here. I want to go back to what you were talking about a second ago, about how, you know, being on the road and how there's temptations on the road. There's. It's easy to fall, you know, fall short and to give in to those temptations. But keeping yourself grounded in your relationship with God, in your marriage.
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Yeah.
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All of those things. When you're out on the road, when you're dealing with all of those things, how do you keep yourself anchored while you're going through all of that?
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Yeah. Nat is a huge part of it.
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Nat's his wife, by the way, if.
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You don't know my wife, Nat. We started praying out loud before we go to bed. Yeah. Or I started praying out loud over us. She. There's like occasional nights where I'm just exhausted and can't even hold my eyes open that she'll pray for us, but I pray 99% of the time out loud for us every night. Because we also read the stat that couples that pray out loud for each other have like a 1% divorce rate.
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Come on, somebody, we all need to start praying.
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Yeah, no, so I mean, I pray out loud over us every night, which also praying out loud. Somebody also told me one time, like the devil hears that, the enemy hears that, you know, that. Not that praying inside of your head is bad, but when you pray out loud and make it known like there's nothing, they hear it, you know? Right. So probably praying out loud over our marriage, trying to surround ourselves with other like, like minded married couples because it's very easy to not to just to let your kind of circle get broken. And. And I feel like when you really feel it with people who will hold you accountable, they don't care that you're out here doing this or doing this like, and they say, hey, this is where I see you falling short. So I have a tight group of people who will call me out on my BS is what I call it. They got me, you know, they got me tight and covered, which has been helpful. And then I've just. The band that we have, like the Robe family we have has been just very carefully hand picked because it's a dark place and I don't want to be out there with somebody who's. I probably spend more time with the guys I do Nat, most of the time. So I don't want to be out there with guys that aren't like minded on the same wavelength. I'm not saying like, you got to be a saint to come on the road with us. I'm just saying, like, it just wouldn't be smart to go on a dark place and just have kind of dark, negative people all around all the time.
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Totally.
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I think there's a place to hang out with those people and like, try to show the word and give the word, but I don't know if like surrounding it 100% of the time, you know?
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Yeah.
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So I think probably like just surrounding myself with good people on the road. Like everybody in my band is just solid dudes, solid dudes. And they would call me out or they would have my back in a heartbeat. Yeah. And then just trying to stay in the word at least once a time, once a weekend on the road. I try to stay in it every day. But sometimes on the road it's tough, but we try to get like a little Bible study going once a month on the road with the guys in the band and I think between all those things combined just kind of keeps me grounded to the fullest, you know, for sure. And it's still tough, but.
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And I think what you're saying kind of just about surrounding yourself with people, I feel like there's somebody listening or watching this, that that's a word for them. Because it's just like sometimes when you're surrounded by. And it could be a childhood friend that you've known forever.
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Yeah. And you don't. Yeah. And for sure.
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God is trying to pluck them out of your life. And it's hard and it's difficult, and it's just like, sometimes leaning into new community and leaning into people who are good for you, for sure.
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Gosh, what a difference. It's tough because you kind of feel weird. Like, you know, I'm loyal to a fault too, so. But yeah, if you're listening to this and you're like a new artist and you're looking for a band, like, take them to coffee. That's what I did. I took these guys a coffee, and I was like, what are your. You can tell, you know, if there's Jesus in somebody when. From an coffee. You know, you could tell.
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Yeah.
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I mean, even. Even if people can put, like, a thing on, like, you could tell. So take. Take your guys to coffee and get to know them. Because I feel like I. I learned so much about my guys in that hour of. Of coffee or just hanging. And also, like, Nat's discernment is crazy. Nat could pick people out a mile away. She's like, I don't ever need to be hanging out.
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Isn't that crazy? I feel like a woman's discernment period.
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It's crazy. And I can be like, no, it's fine. And. And she always is. Right. You know?
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Listen, I'm just gonna say this right now. Wait till she becomes a mom, because it just, like, magnifies. You're just like, oh, I think she's feeling sick. And then the mom's like, yeah, she has this, this, this, and this. And then we need to do this to make it better. It's crazy.
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I bet. Yeah. Yeah.
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I want to talk sort of about you and that and marriage and kids coming. But first I want to talk about. Just since we're on the topic of being out on the road, I feel like we all have moments where God just, like, meets us in our mess, and there's just moments in our life where, you know, you can't do it without anybody but him.
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Yeah.
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Can you remember specifically just like maybe a moment out on the road or just in life specifically where you just, you're like, man, I can't handle this on my own. Like, this is just going to be something God helps me out of.
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I feel like there's been times though where I've just been like, sometimes you can spend a lot of time on your phone out there. And I think on our first headline tour, I just got so consumed by. You have like 8 hours free a day. I think my screen time was like 10 or 11 hours a day and I was just falling. I was like crashing hard and I was like, God, I don't think you've called me to come out here and do this and sit on my phone all day and just scroll and compare myself and do this and this. And I remember like specifically just praying right there and it immediately just calmed the storm.
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Yeah.
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You know, and there's plenty of other times in my life where it's done that, but I feel like keeping him close out there is, has been pretty. That's beneficial.
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The only way to do it. Yeah, I think there was some statistic or study that was done that it's like 12 minutes of prayer a day can completely change your, your entire. The way your brain like fires like how the neurons and things fire in your brain. And I think it's to a testament to what you're saying, like a little bit of prayer goes so, so far.
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Yeah. He hears you. Yeah. Especially in the valleys. For sure.
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100%. Okay. So let's dive into marriage, relationship, kids coming. Because this is exciting. Not just one, we're getting twins. I feel like when it comes to marriage, specifically praying out loud I think is such a great thing for people to do. Has there been other ways in your marriage where you're just like, this is how God keeps us on track. Because you know, in marriage we all fight, we all have things that we don't agree with. And navigating those things, especially as a young couple, I think it's, it's great to get those perspectives for those listening who maybe are new to marriage too or need a little bit of guidance on how to seek God together as a married couple.
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I think it started for me when I realized like I wanted to be the spiritual leader of our household because Nat was always, when me and Nat met, like, Nat's always been light years ahead of me because her mom like Ms. Nancy, just awesome.
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Yeah.
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And she just was raised so right. And so I think there was a little bit of catch up for us when we got married because I just wasn't probably where I should have been or needed to be spiritually when we first got married. So it's kind of been a fun, like, seeing how I can lead our family. It's been. That's been a journey and a process of just, like, learning. Okay, I don't have to be. No more Bible verses than that, you know? But I need to do this to lead her. Because at first I thought, like, you know. But I would say Nat is also very good about asking intentional questions. And I'm like, I could sit on a couch for four hours with her and watch a movie, and that's cool with me, you know? But 20 minutes of just intentional conversation goes way longer, further with her. You know, she wants intentionality. So I've learned intentionality. And then the biggest piece of advice, I guess, that I have is whenever you just feel so frustrated, a marriage, like, the. The immediate killer to that, to, like, whether it's like, anger, frustration, or whatever is just, like, serving, you know, like, even, like, I can't remember maybe a week or two ago, we just weren't, like, arguing, but we're just. You know, you have days. You're just not on the same.
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It's like, I don't want to be around you right now.
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B
You're just on the same page, you know? And I was like. Like, we have a gate at our house, and we open and close for the dogs. It's in the front yard. So I was like, I'm just. She was leaving. She was going to have to get. I was like, I'm gonna go to shut the gate or open the gate for. And shut it. So she had to get out. And then that immediately just, like, takes away any. Whatever. You're like, okay, I see I was wrong in the situation. I need to, like, apologize or, you know. So I think serving, like, your. Your spouse is probably like an immediate. Like, it's like an immediate Advil for a headache. It just takes it away.
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A
That is so, so good.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That is one thing I feel like when you're in the moment, when you're in the heat of everything.
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B
Yeah.
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A
The last thing on your mind is, what can I do to serve my spouse? You know, and what a. What a good tool to use to.
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B
Yeah. And I'm still learning, you know, so, like, just if you're watching this, don't think that I've got it figured out. I'm just figuring it out along the way.
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A
How long have you guys been married?
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B
Two and a half Years. Yeah. Running on that.
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A
We're right in the honeymoon phase. Crushing it.
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B
Yeah. It's been. It's been so good. And. Yeah, we. Yeah. So excited to be a dad. That. That was a process. That's a whole story in itself, but, yeah, it was. So thankful.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Did you. Did you guys have trouble getting pregnant?
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B
Yeah, we tried for. I want to say we tried for, like, 11 months. Couldn't get pregnant. And Nat went to this, like. I guess it's a holistic doctor, which sounds like a weird word. It wasn't like. Yeah, it's not like. It's not like, weird. It's not like a. I thought that was like, a weird juju thing or something. It's like. No, it's just natural.
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A
Somebody. Yeah. Natural medicine. Yep.
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B
So they just. I'm sure Nat wouldn't care if I said this, but she. Like, they were just like. He could do these, like, amino acid testing and look at her fingernails and say, like, okay, from all my thing. I think you just have, like, low this, high this, and then you might have, like, a Candida infection. So let's tackle that, you know, and so put her on, like, a Candida diet. And six weeks after that, like, we got pregnant. But the funniest thing was, is that my biggest thing was if we're gonna use somebody like a doctor like that, because I wanted. I was like, hey, let's just trust God in our time, you know? And then I got to thinking, well, sometimes, like, you know, God places people down here. As long as the credit's not just going to this, you know, we're not saying, like, this doctor is the reason we got pregnant. Like, you know, God led us to this doctor. And God also gave this doctor discernment and the knowledge that to help us in our situation. I think about that story where the. The guy's, like, stuck on his roof, you know. Have you ever heard this?
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A
Yep.
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B
And he's like, I sent you a boat, a helicopter, and a thing like, you know, sometimes God's not just going to come down and pick you up himself. Exactly. So I think our biggest thing was like, hey, when we tell the story, like, we want people to know, like, this was just fully God. You know, we just. He helped us out with some pieces along the way that. Yeah, so we got pregnant. But the funny thing is this whole pregnancy or trying to get pregnant thing, like, I later realized that I was just praying for fertility every night, and I wasn't like, hey, God, give us a kid. A boy, a girl. You Know, and so I asked for fertility and God said, there you go, there you go. Two of them. We got. We got the buy one, get one free deal, you know?
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A
I love it, man. I gotta say though, because I. My husband and I, we struggled with infertility for like, it was like a little over a year.
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B
Yeah.
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A
After we had our first. And those thoughts that start flooding in especially. I'm sure Nat went through that, where you're just thinking, is there something wrong with me?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Are we going to be able to do this? And that's, that's a tough walk with God too.
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B
Yeah, it was a tough season for sure. Especially because I've never seen that really, like constantly upset about something and like, I'm a fixer. Like, I'm like, like, if me and you're beefing, like, I'm going to try to fix it within five minutes. Like, hey, what can I do to do this? You know? And there's nothing I can do in that situation except just pray that God, you know, God's timing and pray for patience and. Yeah, when we found out we were in a lot, well, we were in Alaska and we went on this like, excruciating hike, you know, and that crushed it. She was fine. And she's like, I don't really feel good. And she started like, she's never not. She's just the healthiest person I know. That was why we also was. We're pretty confused about getting pregnant because Nat's like insanely healthy, you know. But it turned out it was like a lot of the fruit she was eating had like tons of sugars in the fruit itself. So that ended up.
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A
That feeds kidney to all the things.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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A
It's all women things.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Things I don't know knowledge enough about, but yeah. So we get home and it's like probably 3:00am, 4:00am and we were like, you know, expecting to not to like, not even need to do a pregnancy test. But then obviously, you know, we're all like, she was late. So we're like, okay, well, maybe the span is just different this month. And, you know, maybe this is it. I was pretty. I feel like I was pretty optimistic the whole time. But we got home, it was like 4am and I'm eating like air fried chicken nuggets or chicken tenders in the kitchen. And we found out and we only had one pregnancy test. And I was like, we're going to get more. And we're like, nowhere's open. So we like. I mean, we just like Cried and jumped in joy and. Yeah, it was crazy.
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A
Gosh, it's such a crazy thing, that first pregnancy test where you're like, oh, I need like three more to confirm.
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B
Oh. I was like, babe, we're going right now. She's like, Dylan, it's 4:00am Nowhere's open.
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A
You all had to sit with that one all night.
- [28:19]
B
I know. I think when I fell asleep, she probably did for a minute, but she went. I had to be 6am or 7am and she went and got like three or four more and she was like, they're all pregnant.
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A
That is so sweet. And I just. I love that story because it really is one of those things, especially as a. I mean, as a married couple, as a. As a unit, you're trying to lead and trying to diffuse. She's seeing a negative pregnancy test and her emotions are crazy and there's doubt and there's all of these things, and man, what a roller coaster.
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B
I know it definitely. And I know so many people that have even gone through more than that, and it feels like going through more than that would. I can't imagine. You know, you never really think is your whole life. You're just taught rightfully so before you're married. Like, you know, don't get pregnant. Don't get pregnant. So when you start trying to get pregnant almost feels weird.
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A
Weird, right? Yeah. Is this wrong?
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B
Yeah. Yeah. But you spend your whole life, like, trying not to, and then. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know. God, it's such a blessing. I mean, and then to have like a double blessing is just like, like, holy cow.
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A
Yeah. Invite us into that room really quick when you guys are getting the ultrasound and you're like, there's two in there.
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B
So we, we went into the. To get the ultrasound, you know, And I mean, I think we were so we were just like, please, dear God, just be a heartbeat. Just be a healthy heartbeat. That's all we care about, you know? And I'd never seen an ultrasound. I've seen them on movies.
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A
They're not nice and pretty.
- [29:40]
B
No. So they start, like, doing it, you know, and I look at the screen and I think, like, probably a split second before the nurse said anything, like, I saw two little jelly bean looking things and I was like. I, like, put my hand over my mouth and I was about to stand up and I was. And she was like, oh, well, y' all knew there was two, right?
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A
Yeah, we just felt it.
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B
And Natalie was like, no. So I like, jumped with joy and. And I was Very, like, nervous, but very. I was like, this is awesome. We tried so long for one, and we got two. Like, let's go. So I'm, like, five inches from the TV screen standing up, and I'm like, nat, this is great. Like, she's behind me. Like, this is great. This is awesome. I'm so excited. We got two, you know, and I turn around, and she's just, like, freaking out, hyper. I've never seen anybody actually hyperventilate before. And so I FaceTimed her mom, and I was like, it's gonna be okay. Like, there's two, though. Like, we're okay. And so we had just told all of our family at Red Rocks were pregnant. So then we had to go back and call everybody and be like, hey, we're also having twins. And I wish we were video in that moment. But, yeah, she was, like, freaking out.
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A
Have you ever seen those videos where it's like, the. The couple has a baby, and then they surprise with the twin?
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B
They, like, never said.
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A
I'm like, that's crazy.
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B
That's crazy because I. I don't. That's 17 weeks, and she's already showing a ton. Like, I don't know how you would hide having twins.
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A
Totally.
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B
Which is sick. I think she's finally starting to feel them, like, kick around and stuff. Like, I can't feel them, like, feeling from the outside, but, like, she could.
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A
Feel them, like, you know, I feel like pregnancy is such a gift from God where it's like, if you go throughout a pregnancy, and then when you see childbirth, like, in the room.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I don't know how you can't believe in God. It's such a beautiful thing.
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B
I bet. I'm excited. I feel like there's so many things I've said recently where you're like, how do you not see God in this? You know?
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A
And what a miracle, too, where he's like, I'm gonna give you a double portion. Don't even worry about it.
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B
I know. Now what. Now what we're worried about is, like, okay, if we go for another one, which we want, you know, probably four.
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A
Kids, another set of twins.
- [31:46]
B
It could be. I don't know. We'll see.
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A
Man. I'm excited for you guys. Have you guys talked about sort of just leading kids? I know that 17 weeks, you guys got a little bit of time left.
- [31:57]
B
But, like, I mean, that's all we've been talking about, because I. I feel like we've been going through just some stuff in our marriage where we're like, and we're constantly learning, like, what do we want to teach our kids? What? Like, I want my kids specifically to see, like, vulnerability through me. Like, I want them to see, like, okay, mom and dad, like, just had an argument, but they're, they're talking about it and they're open and they're like, there's forgiveness and there's. I want them to see, like, that cycle because sometimes it can be. You can be like, numb to it or you can just be like, you don't see that all the time. So I want, I think I just want our kids to see, like, us being vulnerable and, and feel like they can come to us. And. Yeah, there's definitely things that we've already talked about, like, what. How do we want to lead our kids? How do we want. What do they. We want them to see? Because I know they pick everything up, you know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So there's a lot of that already, for sure.
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A
Well, if I can encourage you guys at all, I can say that having those conversations now is so huge.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And watching the fruit of seeing Jesus in your kids. I have a four year old and a one year old and it's just so special when it's just like you're sitting down for dinner.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And your four year old goes, mommy, you forgot to pray. It's just like, you know what I did. Thank you for the reminder. Or just singing worship songs and just. We have people in our family that are unbelievers. And to see my daughter like, crawl up and be like, hey, did you know that God lives in my heart? And you're just like tearing up in the background and you're like, man, just, just that childlike faith.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And just having those conversations now, like, that is so encouraging because it just, it just gets better.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So cool.
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B
Yeah. I feel like you have to, like, prepare that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, for sure, man. We're working on it.
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A
Well, I'm very excited for you guys. Congratulations.
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B
Thanks.
- [33:45]
A
I always love hearing what God is teaching people lately. And I know you guys are walking into a complete new season. Is there something that God has been maybe teaching you recently that's changing you guys or changing your heart?
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B
Probably, like, my word for the year has been obedience and so. Or obey. And that's been a thing itself. Just because, like, you always hear like, the Holy Spirit, you have this discernment, like, thankfully, just at a spot in my faith where I do hear from the Lord. Like I hear whenever it's time to make a decision. Like, I, I Feel this thing. And typically whenever you obey, like what the Lord's saying or like when you just say yes to whatever the spirit is saying or no to whatever it's saying, like, you can really. It's pretty. It's probably the closest thing to immediate. Like, it's not all the time immediate, but the last couple things that I've seen have been pretty immediate. The Lord said this, I've done this, and this has happened. I know it's not always going to be like that. And there's probably seasons where you wait years to see the answer, you know, But I've just been learning to listen and like, being in the Word so much more and journaling and like, really not just reading, but reading to like, get something out of what I'm reading and like, look for what the Bible's saying when it says this because so easy to skip over so much good stuff. And I feel like you could read something so many times and not see it or get something different from it every time. But staying in the Word, like starting my day with the Word because I'm not a morning person, but I've slowly. I think the Lord has slowly started prepare to prepare me because I've just been getting up a little earlier that might not would say the same because she's like an early, early riser. Like 8:30 for me is early.
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A
Yeah, that's early.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But then when you have kids.
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B
Oh, I know.
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A
Sleeping in.
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B
But it's crazy. The trajectory of my days. Once I start in the Word and then when I don't, I'll get like halfway through my day be like, why do I just feel like this? You know, why does this feel off? It's like, oh, I didn't. I didn't start this way this morning. Or not. Even if, you know, if you don't even read, if you just spend some time with God in the morning, doesn't even have to be in the Bible. It can be on the front porch with coffee, just talking to him or anything. I can tell whenever I don't. Don't do that.
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A
It's. It is that like, tangible feeling of like equipping yourself for the day.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I always think it's cool how God will use like, say a devotional or just you open your Bible, you read something, and then something happens later that day and you go immediately back to that. You're like, oh, that's why I read that today.
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B
Yeah. It just. He's got it. It's there. You know, like when you look for it. It's there. And you also can't listen if you're not trying to hear, too. Like, I've been learning that, too. Like, if I'm not listening to God, I'm not going to hear him, you know?
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A
Yeah. You're like, God, where are you? And it's just like, are your ears even open?
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B
Yeah.
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A
What are you doing? Yeah.
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B
Are you listening? Yeah.
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A
Right.
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B
For sure.
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A
And I feel like there's just been this such move in the world lately, like, over the last, like, six months, specifically for myself. I'm like, I want to memorize scripture. Like, I want to know Bible verses, you know, Because I always have been like, well, I'm just not equipped. Like, I don't have Bible, like, biblical knowledge. Like, I know stories and I know different verses and things like that. But I want to go to, like, Matthew and be like, this is what. You know what I mean?
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B
Yeah. I have people like that in my life. I'm pretty jealous of. You're like, how do you know that?
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A
Yeah. Well, that's Mark. He's not here because he's not feeling well, but he's kind of like that biblical sword. I feel like sometimes where I'm like, remember that scripture? What does that say? And he can, like, fire it off. And I'm like, I know. That's the kind of knowledge that I know I desire from God. And I don't know. That's what God's been teaching me is he's just like, you can. You just have to. Yeah, you just have to do it.
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B
Yeah. I feel like the more you read, like, you. You might read, like, a whole passage and then just memorize one verse. But then there's a conversation in two months where you're like, oh, thank God. I read that two months ago. I oddly remember that Matthew 5 says this.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, I feel like it comes. It's like learning guitar. Like, you learn Wagon Wheel, and then you're like, oh, well, this song also has a version of Wagon Wheel. Let me just twist it to that. Okay. These chords work here, and then this verse works here. Yeah.
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A
I saw Wagon Wheel in Job. Like, let me go to Matthew. Wagon Wheels there, too.
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B
Exactly. Yeah.
- [37:40]
A
Oh, man. Well, I always like to kind of wrap things up with just seeing how you are, how your heart is, and how we can pray for you. Are there specific things that we can pray for you?
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B
Probably just. I'm about to go into a season of, like, probably a slower season than I've been in the last four years. Not well Just. Just from the roads kind of tailing off. And then with the kids coming, like, definitely take probably a couple months off for that. I think they're due in March, but they'll probably come early with them being twins. So probably just for, like, in this season of, like, slowness, that I take advantage of that and really spend time with the Lord and really try to, like, deepen my faith, because I feel like it'd be easy. Like, I don't know the last time I had this much time off. So I definitely don't want it to be like a, oh, we're falling off, or that ship's going down. It's like, no, I think we just need a little time with, you know, to get ready to be parents, then to be parents for the first couple months, so maybe that just take a lot of advantage of the next couple months coming up. And, yeah, I can just be a good dad. Yeah.
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A
Well, and I feel like, too, like, just knowing the crazy and chaos that ensues, and I feel like the world specifically makes childbirth and parenthood look like this crazy, chaotic thing. We're never going to sleep again, and blah, blah, blah. It is the most amazing journey.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I love being a mom. I love, you know, our family. And I just. I think that if I can encourage you guys in that, Take advantage of this slowness right before kids, because it does get chaotic. It's just. It's just like this organized chaos that you won't even know what the slowness was before. But just take advantage of this slow season because God will teach you so many things in it. But also, like, kind of like what a crazy blessing from God to give you this insanely slow season where you can just be with your wife, you know?
- [39:32]
B
Yeah. It's perfect.
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A
So excited for you guys. All right, well, I'm gonna pray us out.
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B
Yeah. And.
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A
And we'll let you get out of here.
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B
Sick.
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A
Dear heavenly Father, Lord, just thank you for this platform. Thank you for speaking through us today and just glorifying your word. And we just. We pray over this next season with Dylan and Nat that you would just allow them to take advantage of the slowness that you would use this season to equip them to just be a unit together as husband and wife, but also to be a unit as parents, Lord, and that you would just give them discernment and wisdom and equip them with all of the knowledge that they need to get through childbirth and get to just one of the most amazing blessings that you could ever bless them with. These. These beautiful little babies, Lord, and we just say thank you for them. We say thank you for the answered prayer, fertility. And we just. We just glorify you in this season and just say. We just ask that you bless Dylan and Natalie as they go into this next season, and you just give them supernatural wisdom. Lord, we love you. Amen.
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B
Amen.
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A
Amen. Thank you for coming again and redoing this episode that got deleted last time. We got it. I know. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.