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Father Knows Less with Bobby Bones: Lauren Alaina's Crazy Birth Story & Kickoff Kevin on Twin Chaos
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Host (Father Knows Less)
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Host (Father Knows Less)
another episode of Father Knows Less. And because we don't do this as a real podcast, this is two different YouTube videos that we did, but the first one you may have seen with Lauren Elena and we talked about her and her birth experience and how crazy it was. You'll hear the umbilical cord story. Pretty wild. Always love talking with Lauren. And then after that we talk with one of the guys that works here with me. Kickoff. Kevin and he had twins, first babies. And we talk about what that's like for him. And so here is another episode. But yeah, you get it. And if you want to watch these, they're up on obbybones channel on YouTube. But here is Father Knows Less. All right, I want to welcome Lauren Elena to the Father Knows Less show. Thank you, Lauren.
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Lauren Elena
Of course.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Did you ever feel completely clueless when you had your kid?
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Lauren Elena
Every single day. I feel like I'm learning every day how to take care of a child.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
My question about being a new parent, and you're ahead of me a little bit because your baby's over a year now, right?
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Lauren Elena
No, she's 10 months.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Oh, I saw a picture. I thought it was your birthday party, like Hardy and all those other people.
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Lauren Elena
Everyone thinks that was Rosie's birthday Party. Everyone thinks it was my daughter's birthday party.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I thought it was yours. That's why I thought it was a year, because that.
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Lauren Elena
A lot of people have told me that they thought it. It was Hardy's daughter's birthday.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Okay.
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Lauren Elena
Yep.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
So Your daughter is 10 months old.
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Lauren Elena
She'll be a year old June 11th.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
What's the deal with traveling? Because we haven't traveled. Our baby's just a few weeks old. When did you start feeling comfortable traveling with your child?
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Lauren Elena
Like, on a plane?
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah.
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Lauren Elena
I have not.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
You have not?
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Lauren Elena
I have done it. It's. But you.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Oh, you haven't felt comfortable. What is that? Like, what's the protocol?
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Lauren Elena
Actually, Benny is really great. She's a really easy traveler. If my husband's with me or someone is with me, I feel comfortable. But it would be really hard to
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Host (Father Knows Less)
do it by myself, because what do you have to do extra with a baby that you don't have to do when it's just you.
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Lauren Elena
Well, figuring out where to feed her, breastfeeding. And then you have to travel with so much stuff.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
That seems to be the thing. Everywhere we go now, it's just so much stuff.
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Lauren Elena
Like, it's not just a. I mean, we are now at the age where it does get better, because we're at the age now where I feel like I can take the baby and a change of clothes if, you know, she poops all over herself or spills something and, like, diapers, essentially, and get away with it if we're going to, like, a restaurant. Because she now eats food, too. She's not just in, like, taking milk, but it's. It is a total adjust. I mean, like, if you fly with your child, you have to take a pack and play because they're gonna have to have somewhere to sleep. I mean, you take a lot of stuff, but you get used to it. It's just your whole life change. Like, you start taking less stuff for you, and you take everything for them. Like, I'm re wearing the shirt a couple times. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not gonna take 18 outfit choices. She has 18 outfit choices. I have one.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Have you had a situation where she's crying in a public place
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Lauren Elena
where I'm, like, feeling really bad about it? I'm not gonna lie. My daughter is not a fussy baby. She's a, like, the. It's hilarious if you know her parents. I think we are soaking up all the energy and she's just hanging out. But I have had some situations where she's crying And I feel bad. But I will tell you, everyone's really nice when you have a crying baby, especially when they're really little. Like, people feel bad for you worse than they feel for themselves, I think, because. Especially the mom. Because you can just tell, like, the mom is frantic. And, like, it is piercing to a mother's ear when the baby is crying and needing something and we're trying to figure out what it is. Like, I mean, mostly my maternal instinct kicks in. And I don't really care in that moment about everybody else. And then if she continues to cry, then I would feel bad for everyone else. But it would be like on a plane where you would feel bad if the baby cried the whole time. But even then, it's like, you gotta get where you're going. And it's a baby. Like, what am I supposed to do, you know?
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I feel like my wife has some sort of, like, echolocation where if the. Something, she can sense it.
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Lauren Elena
I could hear my baby cry if she started crying. Right now, we're across town. I literally. It's crazy. It initiates something in you. Like, my husband.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Me too. I mean, that's really what I've been like. Yeah.
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Lauren Elena
I mean, if it were up to Cameron, Benny would cry all night long if something was wrong because he would not wake up. And I. I mean, I don't even need, like, a video monitor. I can hear her across the house. It's done something to my ears. It's crazy.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
We're so early in again. We're just a few weeks in. And how old is she now? A little over three weeks.
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Lauren Elena
Oh, my goodness, the snuggles.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
And she doesn't do a lot, right? It's awesome.
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Lauren Elena
As much as you can. Because then they get busy and they don't love to snuggle as much. Like, I know people say you can, like, spoil your baby. Don't hold your baby too much. Hold that baby from morning to dark if you want to, because it goes by so fast. I know everyone says that, but it really. I could. I could weep about it. I mean, we're in a really fun age. She's crawling, learning to walk. And she, like, knows us and says mama and Dada.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
And that's crazy to think about our baby saying words to us. Or even that.
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Lauren Elena
Are you. Yeah, like, to recognize you, to know you. That will happen sooner than you think. Where she will recognize you.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Because right now they list.
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Lauren Elena
Like, they're like a little potato at first. That's, you know, eats and poops. And then all Of a sudden, they're like, this is my person. Like you, especially with your wife. I think she. The baby will recognize her probably first and then, I mean, but it wasn't long after. But she, like, Benny knew who I was. Like, I think she knew who I was immediately, but I was more like the person that carried her and fed her, you know? And then you become their person that they trust and they recognize. And that is the most rewarding part of being a parent to me.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
My wife will be crying sometimes and I'm like, what's wrong? She's like, nothing. I'm just so happy that. Did that happen to you?
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Lauren Elena
Oh, yeah. And your wife's body just went through the most miraculous gift and crazy shift of all time for a woman. So, yeah, the emotions are very heightened at that time. And yes, I still look at my daughter and cry. Like, I took these pictures of her with this. With these blocks that said 42 weeks. Because I went way past my due date. I went 12 days, 11 days past. Wow. So I almost carried her a full 42 weeks.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Were you doing.
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Lauren Elena
So I took a picture of her with blocks that said 42 weeks. And the way she held her little hands in the bow and her hair made me cry. So, yeah, the crying doesn't stop. Just out of pure adoration for her. I cry like I love her so much.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
We were doing things like curb walking. Were you trying hot spicy food?
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Lauren Elena
I did every trick you. You've. If you've read a trick, I did it. The only thing I never did was castor oil. I never drank the castor oil. I was like. Because my doula told me that some people take. Drink the castor oil and they have contractions, but it doesn't actually get them into birth. And I was like, well, we're not going to do that. I don't want to do that.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
How did you know?
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Lauren Elena
But a lot of women do it in it, like, immediately. They have.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
How did you know you were having the baby? Like, what was your.
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Lauren Elena
I had to be induced. I ended up getting.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Even though you were two weeks late,
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Lauren Elena
I had to be induced? Yeah. I mean, it was. Started being. It started. I really didn't want to be induced. Like, I wanted my body to do it. And at some point I was like, getting kind of scared that she was still in there.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
You know, she's about to graduate high school and she's still in there.
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Lauren Elena
Yeah, she came out reading.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
That's crazy. She's driving a car for me. There have been certain things that I'VE learned in the past, even month. One thing is how important the labor nurses are. Labor and delivery nurses. Like, I could. If I were to see ours walking down the street. And again, she spent a day with us, so. And we're just another person coming in and going out. But to us, same. I would hug her and go, what can I do for your life?
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Lauren Elena
Yeah. Can I, like, pay for your kid to go to school? What do you need? Yeah, same.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
So valuable.
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Lauren Elena
Such a crazy experience. Isn't it? Just like. I mean, as the person that had the. But like, even for my husband and Cameron's like, the life of the party. He's Mr. Jokester. He's not a super emotional person. And when Benny came out and he saw her, he shocked. I've never seen him cry. I mean, like, when someone passes away, he cries in appropriate situations, but, like, sobbed. And it's just such an out of, like, it's otherworldly experience. Like, just. And those people. And it's so hard on the mom. Like, there's a lot going on. And those women that we had, like, there was one nurse we had specifically that same, like, I love her. I love her.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I'm very close to feeling that way about ours.
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Lauren Elena
And I love her.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah.
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Lauren Elena
Because I want her to be there when I have enough.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
She was there. And she was there for most of it before our doctor got there, because the doctor got called in. So it's like my wife started going into labor, and she's in all of it. When they started pulling out the trash bag, I knew it was getting real. By the way, do you see them do that for you? They started pulling out the plastic.
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Lauren Elena
We had, like, kind of a wild birth. Because when I would push, Benny's heart rate plummeted, and they couldn't figure out why. So her umbilical cord was wrapped around her head twice and up under her shoulder and then between her legs. So when I would push, it was pulling.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Wow. Did you know that as was happening?
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Lauren Elena
No. But I knew something was not right. So I was very scared. It was very scary. It happens a lot, I think.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I can't imagine. She was fully wrapped.
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Lauren Elena
She was like. And I think. And part of me thinks, you know, the. There's. I never knew anything about childbirth until I was getting prepared to have one. And basically the way, like, your cervix and all the things like the way you dilate and stuff is the baby's head, like, burrows down. So I'm wondering, because she was so wrapped up, if that's Why I went so far past my due date because she wasn't able to do what she needed to do to, like, prepare my body for birth. But they basically. They basically told me not to push until the doctor got there. I wasn't like. I did not push. And then I pushed. And they. The doctor came in and told me all these things that we were going to have to do to get her out. Like, not like forceps, and there's, like, this vacuum that they can use. And they're telling me this, and I look up at my husband, and I'm just, like, scared to death. You know, I mean, it's scary. Anyway, but then that started happening, and I was like, oh, my gosh. And I was like, what? And then they were. And she was so far down in the birth canal that they would have had to push her back up for a C section. So they said that really wasn't the greatest choice at that point either. So then we're, like, having to pick the best of not great choices. And I'm not kidding. It scared me so much. So for them to do any of those things, you. You have to push for the doctor to kind of assess. And then they would do, like, bring in the force. And she. She was also sideways. So he said he couldn't do the vacuum. So you push, and then they, like, clamp on her head and pull her out, which is so graphic. I'm sorry. But it scared me so bad. He said, well, we're gonna do. I want you to push as hard as you can, and I just kind of want to see the position of her head. And then you're gonna relax, and then we'll do it again, and we're gonna get her out. And I looked up at my husband. I will never forget it. Something happened to me, and I pushed her out. Like, they did not have to use anything. Like, something happened to me. They scared me so bad. You know, you see those videos of people, like, lifting cars off of their children. I had that experience because I was like. Because they tell me everything, that if they use that stuff, which I had a friend who had to use them, and the baby was perfectly fine. But it can hurt them. Like, the best option is to not have to use anything. And so it just scared me. And I pushed her out. I pushed twice, and she was out.
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Pharma Announcer
Eczema isn't always obvious, but it's real. And so is the relief from Epglis. After an initial dosing phase, about 4 in 10 people taking EVGLIS achieved itch relief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks, and most of those people maintain skin that's still more clear at one year with monthly dosing.
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A 250mg injection is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms with moderate to severe eczema, also called atopic dermatitis, that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin or topicals or who cannot use topical therapies. Eglis can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you're allergic to ebglis. Allergic reactions can occur that can be severe eye problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have new or worsening eye problems. You should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Epglis. Before starting Epglis, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection searching for real relief.
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Ask your doctor about ebglis and visit epgliss.lily.com or call 1-800-lilyrx or 1-800-545-5979.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
her cry, were you like oh my
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Lauren Elena
God, it that right now will make me weep because I was so scared that she wasn't going to be okay and I heard her well first they, I you know, I'm watched like I see them pull her out and he's doing this to my baby, like untangling my child.
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Kickoff Kevin
Wow.
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Lauren Elena
Like I see the doctor untangling. He was like she's really tangled and I'm like is she okay? And my husband is hysterically sobbing and I'm like look. And they laid her on me and she didn't cry immediately. They like suctioned out of her mouth and she went and I literally like have never heard a more beautiful sound. My life changed instantly in that second when I I mean looking at her just like, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, so it was scary. And then that the reward of getting I literally like never wanted them to take her away from me. I was like, where? I didn't even want them to weigh her. They were like well we have to weigh her. And I was like, no you don't I was like. Cause I was so scared. You.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Whenever they laid the baby on my wife's chest, what was crazy was she immediately went from the intense pressure of having to have a child physically, mentally, emotionally, to she just started going, I love her so much. I love her so much.
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Lauren Elena
Oh, yes.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I've never seen it like that before. Where. As soon as it touched her, she was like, I love her so much. This is. And she was obviously crying and emotional instantly.
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Lauren Elena
It's the craziest. I can't. It's an inexplainable feeling. Like, it's. Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
How long until you could sing again after you gave birth? Because. Did it hurt singing?
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Cause.
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Lauren Elena
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I had no idea that it was.
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Lauren Elena
That I did not sing right at first. That actually really scared me. That actually really scared me because I couldn't control my voice in a way that I'm able to do. That's a great question, Molly. How long do you think it took? Couple months?
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah.
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Inner Balance Advertiser
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Lauren Elena
Before you started feeling like couple months? Well, I mean, you think about it. You have, like, a gaping wound in your. And so I was, like, not able to. It was because I could. Had no core left, so I could not control. I was still able to sing, but I could not control, like, flipping my voice and stuff. And it wasn't a voice thing. It was all, like, a control. It was very interesting. Like, I did some, like, vocal therapy and stuff to try to fix it.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I was very ignorant as to what it does to the female body.
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Lauren Elena
It does a lot.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Because I've said before, I thought it was like, okay, rub some dirt on it. Get to raisin'.
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Lauren Elena
How is your wife doing? How's she feeling?
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Great, Great now. But I mean, it's. You know, we read the thing. Five days in a bed, five days around the bed. Five days. And it's more than that.
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Lauren Elena
It's way more than that.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yep.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Shout out to every woman that has to go through this. There's a new perspective having gone through it. Like, you guys rule. We suck.
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Lauren Elena
We are the superior.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, it's.
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Lauren Elena
Women are superior. I agree. I agree.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
When did you go out and start singing again? On the road.
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Lauren Elena
I had my first show. I think she was about three months old.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Did you. Were you there physically?
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Lauren Elena
No, but it was contractually. I don't even know if I've talked about this, but I sobbed hysterically that I had to go back to work. I was not ready. And I thought. I mean, when I was, like, looking at the calendar right And I was like, oh, I'll be so ready by. It was end of August. She was born. Like, I literally think it was maybe the last day of August. That was my first show. And she was born June 11th. So that's actually sooner than I thought. Now that I'm thinking about it, what
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Host (Father Knows Less)
also blows me away is that we don't have, like, full paid maternity leave.
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Lauren Elena
Well. And I don't have paid maternity leave at all.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Our government doesn't like.
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Lauren Elena
Right. That's what you're saying.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yes. Like, in some countries, it's like three months paid, fully maternity leave. Ours is like, you had a baby. All right, you do at 9am get to work. There's just a whole new respect from me because I've not gone through it.
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Lauren Elena
I have so much respect for just mothers in general, too, because I am very fortunate in that my job, she goes with me mostly. It's starting to be like, I have the whole month of May is going to be a tough month for me. She'll be fine. Cause I'm gonna leave her with her dad. But I have west coast friends, and I'm just not. I'm not doing that to her. So I now am at the stage where I'm leaving her. But I think, you know. But a lot of mothers have to go back to work way sooner than I did, and they're gone from them all day long. I guess the real difference is, like, when I'm gone from her, I don't come home at night.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
You're gone for a few days.
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Lauren Elena
Yeah, I'm gone for stretches of time. But this May will be the first time where I've left her more than like, 48 hours.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
May 2nd. You're doing the I Heart Country Festival.
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Lauren Elena
I am.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
It's you, Luke Bryant.
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Lauren Elena
I'm gonna leave her there.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Kane Brown. Wait, you're gonna leave her in Texas? Is she coming to Texas? No, that's not her home. Don't leave her there. At least leave her here.
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Lauren Elena
I'm gonna leave her at home, I believe. Well, we haven't talked about. That one's a quick one. So in Texas is a little bit easier. So we're figuring out. Sorry. Yes, I'm going to. I interrupted and talked all over that.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
It's a big show. Everybody should get tickets. Ticketmaster.com. one final question. You were gifted a Bronco by Rascal Vlads.
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Lauren Elena
Yes.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I saw the picture.
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Lauren Elena
It's real. They blindfolded us and took us out to the garage. And I was like, maybe they got us a Golf cart or something, I don't know. And then they cranked up these cars. And then I still was like, they're gonna put us in these cars and take us somewhere. And then I realized that was my car.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
They were giving you the car.
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Lauren Elena
They gave us the car. Shipped it. I mean, we didn't drive them home from there, obviously, because we had more shows. So they shipped the cars like they just. One day I walked outside and it was in my driveway.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Is that the greatest tour gift you've ever gotten?
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Lauren Elena
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I mean, that's. That, that's insane. Well, I appreciate you talking about all that stuff with me.
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Lauren Elena
Oh, my gosh. And I'm. I'm here if you have any questions.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
And my wife says same thing about you. She's like, she's so grateful that you've reached out and. And been.
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Lauren Elena
She's asked me a couple questions. I'm like, there are no dumb questions because you don't, you know, nothing. You have this baby. Get back to the nurse thing. You have this baby and these people help you bring this baby into the world. And then they're like, here's how the car seat goes in the car. Good luck.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Then you go home and you're like, where'd I put it?
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Lauren Elena
Where does it go? Yeah, but there, you know. And I told her about this little thing that we laid Benny in. I told her about. It's like a pillow. Do y' all have it?
- [25:50]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Probably. We have.
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Lauren Elena
There's like a little indentation in the center of it.
- [25:53]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Oh, we do have that.
- [25:54]
Lauren Elena
Yeah. I told her to get that.
- [25:55]
Host (Father Knows Less)
We do have that.
- [25:55]
Lauren Elena
I'm trying to think of what it's called, but I sent her the link
- [25:57]
Host (Father Knows Less)
and said, final question. What's the best thing about being a mom?
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Lauren Elena
Oh, man, there's so many wonderful things. The way she loves me, just the most pure, innocent love. The way she, like, looks at me and needs me and like just. Yeah, the. There's nothing like it. Just to know that I am. And my husband too. But it's different with the mother a little bit. But I am the number one person in her life. And I don't like, just, yeah. Oh, my goodness. And she says mama. And that was her first word. And that was pretty good.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Thank you, Lauren.
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Nah, I'm just kidding.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
this episode we have Kickoff Kevin, who has twins. Congratulations on that.
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Kickoff Kevin
Thank you very much.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Dude, that's crazy wild. But you don't know the difference. Like, you don't know what it would be like to have one because I have one. Yeah, you just had two. I think if you had one, then you had two. Like, my friend Ben Rector had a baby as a girl and then they were gonna have another baby, then they had twins. So they know what it's like to have one, but then they had two.
- [30:47]
Kickoff Kevin
Oh, and does he talk about how much harder two is compared to one?
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah. And I know it's gonna be really hard, even for you, but I don't know that you know the difference and how easy it could have been with just one.
- [30:56]
Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, I don't. We always, like, my wife and I always hypothetically talk about, imagine if we just had one.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Like you spread them out. One, then one.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, one then one. But then we always say, but imagine if we had three or four at the same time. So you can always like go either avenue, I guess. But yeah, we say that all the time. Like, hey, at least we started this way instead of having one and then two. Now I just hope we don't have another set of twins.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Does that ever happen where people have multiple sets of twins?
- [31:21]
Kickoff Kevin
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
You had them in your family?
- [31:23]
Kickoff Kevin
Hers.
- [31:24]
Host (Father Knows Less)
And she has a lot of twins?
- [31:25]
Kickoff Kevin
A lot, yeah.
- [31:26]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Was she a twin? No.
- [31:27]
Kickoff Kevin
No, she wasn't.
- [31:28]
Host (Father Knows Less)
I made a list of things because ours is still considered a newborn of really important items that I'm glad we knew of. And if you have any you want to throw into this, you can. But there's something called a boppy. You familiar with boppy?
- [31:39]
Kickoff Kevin
No.
- [31:39]
Host (Father Knows Less)
You probably are. Maybe the brand name. I don't know. It's like a thing that wraps. It's a pillow that kind of is a half circle. And so it's used for a lot of things for if I'm setting the baby up. If you're like, our baby has, like, at times, like some reflux stuff. Like the boppy's legitimate as a pillow that goes around your waist for the baby.
- [31:58]
Kickoff Kevin
Yes. Now I know what you're talking about.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
That could also be the brand.
- [32:02]
Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, Yeah. I think we just called it the horseshoe pillow or something.
- [32:05]
Host (Father Knows Less)
That's probably a good name for it.
- [32:06]
Kickoff Kevin
Okay.
- [32:07]
Host (Father Knows Less)
There's also, and I've mentioned this, there's a rubber duck that we have that has the temperature on the rubber duck where you put it in the water.
- [32:13]
Kickoff Kevin
That's legit.
- [32:14]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Oh, it's the greatest thing. I thought everybody knew about this. Oh, yeah. It's a rubber ducky, A yellow rubber ducky. And on the bottom, you just flip it on and then you put it on the water and it tells you the temperature of the water.
- [32:22]
Kickoff Kevin
Huh.
- [32:22]
Host (Father Knows Less)
So you don't burn the baby.
- [32:24]
Kickoff Kevin
Mine, our temperature is just a finger in.
- [32:26]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Well, now I'm getting good. Because of the rubber ducky.
- [32:28]
Pharma Announcer
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- [32:29]
Host (Father Knows Less)
But this thing's like six bucks. I encourage everybody on Amazon. If you're wondering how, even for me, I take a bath at 114, you know your temperature? Well, because I put the duck in there. Because once we had the baby and we.
- [32:43]
Kickoff Kevin
Because before that you didn't know.
- [32:45]
Host (Father Knows Less)
No idea. Had no idea. But ChatGPT was like, hey, if you're going to give a baby a bath, it should be around 99 to 100, which is just kind of warm. It's not even that hot. Body temperature. So you got to think we're 99, 98.6, whatever. So it's basically body temperature water to give the baby a bath in. And then obviously I'm curious about my own bath. So I would run it till I would normally have it. And it's at 114 to 116. I think that's pretty hot for a human because my wife will sometimes forget that I've run the bath and then she'll just turn it on and then she'll put her foot in. I hear her go, what the heck, man? It's so hot, dude.
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Kickoff Kevin
We're opposite where my wife is super hot and I'm the opposite where I like it cooler.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
The boppy. The rubber. You gotta get a rubber duck.
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Kickoff Kevin
I was gonna say the rubber duck is awesome.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Do you like your. Your kids are how old now?
- [33:35]
Kickoff Kevin
10 and a half months.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
So what do I have to look forward to? Like, what are the cool things between like one and six months?
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Kickoff Kevin
Well, right now you're still early enough, I think, where you're just basically trying to keep her alive.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah.
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Kickoff Kevin
Not to be dramatic, but at the end of the day it's kind of what it is.
- [33:50]
Host (Father Knows Less)
I'm basically trying to keep my wife alive to keep the baby alive.
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Kickoff Kevin
That too.
- [33:54]
Host (Father Knows Less)
That's really where it is.
- [33:54]
Kickoff Kevin
That too. And then so now you really have to look forward to. And even like my kids at ten and a half months are changing every day. But really, like after six months or so, you start to see these personalities.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Six months is when that happens?
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, like big, even before that. But now it's really, really starting to come through after six months. And the difference. The good thing about twins is you see just how different each one is. So like, my girl is just wild. She's a wild child. Just wants to go, go, go, yell, scream. And then my boy just kind of sits back, puts his fingers together, that kind of stuff. So it's really cool to see the personalities come out and like, which one might be more like you or if she's going to be more like you or more like your wife. And then as they get older, like legit every day it's a little bit more every single day. Once you hit that little bit of personality in a few months from now, and then from then on, it just goes so fast.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
It's just me reading stuff. But it says there's a big shift around three months where they start smiling regularly. And baby really smiles now, but it's usually it's from gas or something. Yeah, it's mostly a muscle thing, I think. Unless she's just delighted with me while she's pooping, I think so. Smiling regularly. The first laugh. Stronger neck. That's around two to three months. Is that pretty cool? When the baby starts to react to you?
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah. I was just gonna say the best part now. I mean, I get. I walk in the door and both the kids, like, they'll hear their door open and they'll kind of pop up. They're like, in the playpen and they'll look through the bars and they'll see me and just these big smiles. And I'm telling you, like, there is no better feeling. I've heard all about that growing up. But that is the best part. Getting home. Even if you had a crappy day at work, crappy day doing whatever, you see that and they. They don't care. They don't know about anything. But you see that smile, even at this young of an age. Like, it'll change your entire day when you see that.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Any items that I haven't mentioned that you guys live by?
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Kickoff Kevin
Dude, Diaper Genie.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I don't know.
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Kickoff Kevin
Do you have one?
- [35:46]
Host (Father Knows Less)
It's a pediatrician. They have one. But it always stinks.
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Kickoff Kevin
Ours doesn't.
- [35:51]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Oh, it does. Okay. So the reason that we didn't do Diaper Genie is because it smells like poop coming out of that thing. It's a pediatrician, but maybe that's just because people are reckless. Because it's not theirs.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, probably because we've had ours since day one and we still, I mean, use it literally every time.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Does it just have a hole in it and it turns? Like you throw it in and it turns.
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Kickoff Kevin
And not a turn. Like you kind of shove it down or you toss it down in there. And it has like a little, like, contraption where, you know when the diaper goes through, it shuts back up.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Okay.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, yeah. And I mean, it's in our living room and we don't even smell anything.
- [36:19]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Something that I knew nothing about. And you guys are double time. This how many diapers a baby uses?
- [36:24]
Kickoff Kevin
Oh, my gosh.
- [36:26]
Host (Father Knows Less)
So much so that it's affected me in a way of. We donate diapers every week because I don't know that if you're just getting by, like, week to week, like, if you're living paycheck to paycheck and you also got to buy diapers. That's so much money, it's insane.
- [36:40]
Kickoff Kevin
Luckily for us, Shout out my father in law. We've only had to buy, like, two boxes, I think because since day one, he's big. I'll buy your diapers for you, man.
- [36:48]
Host (Father Knows Less)
That is awesome. It's like a scholarship to college.
- [36:50]
Kickoff Kevin
Yeah. Every time we run out, especially with two, we go through so much. Every time we run out, we text him. Next day is on her doorstep.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
No way.
- [36:56]
Kickoff Kevin
Swear it's the best.
- [36:58]
Host (Father Knows Less)
And wipes.
- [36:59]
Kickoff Kevin
And wipes. A lot of wipes. What about cloths? Like baby cloths? Like, wipes and cloths.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
So, like burp rags?
- [37:07]
Kickoff Kevin
Yeah. I couldn't think of the word.
- [37:08]
Host (Father Knows Less)
There are times where I'm walking around the house and I just look in a mirror and I've got two on me. I don't even remember putting them on me. There's like one on a shoulder. It's like a back of my shirt. It's almost like when you take clothes out of a dryer and there's like a sock attached to your pants. And you didn't realize that because the static cling. Like, I have burp cloths just on me. I'll go to work in the morning and I got to do a burp cloth check to make sure nothing is attached to me right now. Yeah, they're everywhere. And the fact that you grow out of baby. The babies grow so fast. And again, I'm only three, four weeks into this, but she's already grown out of so many, like, onesies.
- [37:40]
Kickoff Kevin
Oh, yeah. It's insane.
- [37:43]
Host (Father Knows Less)
What a racket that is.
- [37:44]
Kickoff Kevin
It's insane. And like, I let my wife do whatever, you know, get her clothes, but she's learning as she goes along. Like, why do we need all these clothes? Because half of them, they'll never wear because they just grow out of them so fast. Especially the onesies at that little. And then you just start buying, like, when they're six months, you buy nine months because they're just gonna grow into. Even if it's big now.
- [37:59]
Host (Father Knows Less)
So you put them. Ah, that's good. You put them in something a little bigger so we'll have it longer.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, yeah. Especially if you're buying something nice.
- [38:08]
Host (Father Knows Less)
We've got rules. No nice clothes.
- [38:10]
Kickoff Kevin
Good.
- [38:10]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Right now, I mean, I. Who knows, but. Right. It's all generic.
- [38:16]
Kickoff Kevin
Good.
- [38:16]
Host (Father Knows Less)
I'm not sure my wife gets it. But there's no name brand. The fact they make name brand baby stuff is crazy to me.
- [38:22]
Kickoff Kevin
I know.
- [38:23]
Host (Father Knows Less)
That's only for Instagram, right?
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Kickoff Kevin
Oh, yeah, absolutely. And. And kind of like a lot of other people were. You go out and your baby's wearing this nice, whatever brand, and it's almost like this is for other people, not really for us. They don't wear this unless we go out in public so we can show Other people. We have this nice brand on our baby.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Did you guys have a wedge pillow?
- [38:40]
Kickoff Kevin
No.
- [38:40]
Host (Father Knows Less)
It's something that we use now. It's basically a pillow that's a wedge. So if the baby needs to, like, not stand up, but be elevated, so not laying down.
- [38:50]
Kickoff Kevin
Okay.
- [38:51]
Host (Father Knows Less)
The pillow's great for that.
- [38:52]
Kickoff Kevin
Interesting. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, just wait till the baby can hold herself up though. That's. It's a relief.
- [38:59]
Host (Father Knows Less)
What do you mean?
- [38:59]
Kickoff Kevin
Like, is she strong enough to hold her neck up quite yet?
- [39:02]
Host (Father Knows Less)
She turns her head over.
- [39:03]
Kickoff Kevin
Okay. But she can't, like sit.
- [39:05]
Host (Father Knows Less)
She does a mile on the treadmill. Max dang.
- [39:08]
Kickoff Kevin
She's already there.
- [39:09]
Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah, she doesn't.
- [39:11]
Kickoff Kevin
She's a little ahead of ours, so that's okay. But no, when you don't have to like support her head in every little movement and she can start to support herself. Like if you just move her just even from sitting here to sitting here, and you don't have to like hold her head as you move her, it's just a nice relief, just internally so you don't feel like you're gonna break a baby's neck.
- [39:32]
Host (Father Knows Less)
I was talking on an episode prior where the car seat was actually a lot easier than I thought because people had built that up to be. You're never gonna like a 10,000 piece puzzle with no picture on the box. You're never gonna figure it out. It's actually quite simple.
- [39:45]
Kickoff Kevin
Yeah.
- [39:46]
Host (Father Knows Less)
And I put a mirror on that headrest of the seat so you can see in the mirror end of the kit. And then I got a lot of messages going, hey, you can get cameras that are pretty inexpensive. And you. So. Cause I don't. My vision's not good. And also I gotta look in a mirror to see a mirror to see the baby. What do you guys have to see the babies?
- [40:02]
Kickoff Kevin
We have a mirror. I didn't even know they had cameras.
- [40:04]
Host (Father Knows Less)
We just ordered one. We haven't opened it yet, but I didn't know if you had done that at all.
- [40:08]
Kickoff Kevin
Nope. But honestly, I can't stand the mirrors because those are harder to put together than the car seats. Ours, the ones that we have, at least we should probably get new ones. But like, if we go from my wife's car, which the car seats are normally in there, to my truck for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't even want to take the mirrors off and put them back on because it's that much of a hassle.
- [40:26]
Host (Father Knows Less)
You go blind on the babies.
- [40:26]
Kickoff Kevin
I just go blind when you get
- [40:28]
Host (Father Knows Less)
There, you just cross your fingers and hope. Oh, my God, Help. The baby's alive.
- [40:31]
Kickoff Kevin
I just pull down and I just take a peek if I can, at a red light. Okay, we're good. All right. I keep going, and that's about it. But no, we had the mirrors.
- [40:38]
Host (Father Knows Less)
What's been the best part about it?
- [40:40]
Kickoff Kevin
Man, this is something that I've looked forward to since I was little. I have a great relationship with my dad, so I think just looking forward to this my entire life, but not rushing it at the same time. Like, thank God I found a great woman and a great mom and a great wife. So I think the best part has been, like, it's been everything I've wanted my entire life, but then even more.
- [41:01]
Host (Father Knows Less)
What's been the hardest part about it?
- [41:02]
Kickoff Kevin
Sleep, by far. Because we have our little boy. He's still not sleeping through the night. So we wake up at least once a night with him, and then he wakes her up sometimes. So then it's like you get the double whammy. Then you're up for an hour instead of just being up for 15 minutes. And then you try to go back to sleep and the other one wakes up. So just the lack of sleep and, like, the inconsistent sleep schedule is definitely two of them. Two. And it would take when they were little, little month, first month or two, it would take an hour and a half when they would wake up in the middle night to feed them. Could feed them, burp them, change them all. That would take an hour and a half to get both of them done.
- [41:37]
Host (Father Knows Less)
I get so excited when there is a big bar type belly fat man burp that comes out of her.
- [41:44]
Kickoff Kevin
Oh, it's the best, dude.
- [41:45]
Host (Father Knows Less)
It's the. It's like.
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Kickoff Kevin
You know how good it feels.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yes. And also it's like, you know when you get an iPhone used to peel that plastic off, and you'd be like, that's so satisfying. You're like, this is stupid. But it just matte. That's kind of. If I'm burping her, like, if my wife's done. And I'm. That's what I'm talking about.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Because at first two, like, they're so small. You really don't. You get a little tight little tap. And then you realize these babies are built to be burped.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
That's a pretty satisfying part of being a dad so far.
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Kickoff Kevin
Did your wife, like, was she ever telling you, like, stop hitting. Stop hitting her so hard or anything like that?
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Host (Father Knows Less)
No, because she was doing it before me. Because I was scared to death. I never. I never held one baby ever, my whole life prior to our baby. And it was for like, 30 seconds. It was my nephew, because I think they were like, hey, hold this baby for a second. So anything. Any. My relationship mentally with the baby was, I'm gonna break this thing, so do not touch. So mine was always, like, one finger tap, and she's like, no, no, no, you're not gonna get anything out of her unless you really. The other thing that I've learned is, like, the rub up on the back. Oh, yeah, that's been good for me to get some burps out.
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Kickoff Kevin
Like, your wife does it to you.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
No, I wish. I wish you would do, like. Because you do, like, bicycle legs to get poop. I tell my wife I want to do some of this stuff. Like, do some of this stuff to me because I have stomach issues.
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Kickoff Kevin
What.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
So here. What do I have to look like? What's the best part about the next few months coming up for me?
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Kickoff Kevin
Just the drastic change of, like, not her, not you. Just, you know, trying to keep her alive. Like I said earlier. Now you're really going to start to. She's gonna start to notice you. She's gonna. To your point, she's already kind of seen you and noticed you a little bit. But then she'll start following you. She'll start laughing at things you say. You'll make her laugh. Then the little giggle. I mean, there's nothing like a baby's giggle, especially when it's her own baby. So I think just seeing that come through so fast and it's gonna happen like that, and then another week goes by and she's gonna have another new personality come out of her. So all of that rapidly happening so fast is probably gonna be the best part.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
What is your advice to new dads, like, if they're just about to have a baby?
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Kickoff Kevin
Be there for your wife, number one. Because we've talked about this before. You don't really know what they go through until you see them go through it. And then it's like, okay, well, she just went through nine months of all this, and then labor and then all this. Now you just need to be there for your wife, making sure the kid's okay, of course, but also just being like, hey, what do you need? Let me support you. And how can I make your life easier for at least the first couple weeks until they can get their feet back under them and they can feel normal and she can feel good again. That would be my biggest thing. Is just be there for her and just take a step back of, like, your own role. Don't even think about yourself and just really be unselfish.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I remember whenever you told me you were having twins, this is months before you actually had the baby. Like, we're having twins, and you're like, I'm gonna be gone for a while. And I did. I listen. I didn't know the benefit of paternity leave I now do. And I was just like, dude, I didn't know. I just always want the people that work for me to feel like they have full support for me regardless of what they're doing. And I was like, dude, don't even answer the phone from us. Take off as much time as you want. Like, you just let me know when you're good. And you were like, no, no, I think I'm gonna work a little bit. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was saying, but I was like, no, no, you're not gonna wanna work. You're going to want to. And it turns out this is one of those times where I was randomly, really. Right. And I'm glad I've been through it now because it's so important for your wife, your partner to have somebody there with them.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yes.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
It's crazy. Like, what they've been through physically and now what they're expected to do immediately. It is wild.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah. And to your point, I mean, you were immediately like, go away. Turn off your phone, whatever you need to do, your email, everything. And thank God for that. Because internally, we always want to be like, I want to help where I can and work where I can, but. But to be able to have that, like, space of separation with work while dealing with that is a game changer.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I didn't even really know what I was saying. I just want everybody to feel supported who works for me. And you were like, I need time off. I'm like, well, take it. But now if someone were to come to me and say, hey, I need some time, double it, and I'll see.
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Kickoff Kevin
I was gonna say, see you in two years, man. What do you feel like? Do you feel like two weeks is. It depends. Everyone's situation's a little bit different, I guess.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
Yeah, I feel I took a week, but I made sure the show was still fully covered. And the second week I worked from home, so I was working fully, but I was a stone's throw. And there were times where we'd be in the studio and my wife would be like, hey, can you help Me. And I could because I was close in a perfect world, first of all. And our country kind of sucks at maternity leave. There are laws that protect women from losing their jobs, but they're not getting paid. I think if it were me, I would try to mandate six months paid maternity leave for everyone. And that's probably not enough because there are countries in Europe that do way better than that. But I would do six months paid maternity leave, government covered. And then if possible, for the dudes, three weeks, I think is a sufficient amount of time to fully be dedicated. And if it's a little more than that, if it's less than that, great. But I think three weeks is a number that we should not scoff at if a dude wants to take off time for their wife. Because I think uneducated to me would be like paternity leave. You didn't have the baby. Suck it up. I could not feel more. And I never said that out loud, but I think as dudes, we're kind of taught that, like, why does a dude need to leave? But now that I've been through it, it's needed.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
I would. Three weeks to a month for a dude, you must take off. It's not even that you get paid. Like, you have to take off three to four weeks so you can be there. And we're gonna come and look in your window and make sure you're supporting her. Like, that would be part of the.
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, you're not going on vacation. That would be part of the rules,
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Host (Father Knows Less)
part of the law. Yeah. Thanks. I often use you as a source when I'm like, man, I think it's crazy for us. What about if we had two?
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Kickoff Kevin
Yeah, that's crazy. That's what a lot of people say. Like, I can't believe you do too. But to your point, you know the difference. You don't know the difference. And thank God we don't know the difference. And hopefully it's just one from here on out.
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Host (Father Knows Less)
All right, there he is. Kickoff. Kevin on Father Knows Less.
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