FEELING THINGS: Amy Got Seagulled, The Sorority Rumor We Need Answered & Why None of This Really Matters Anyway

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – Feeling Things: Amy Got Seagulled, The Sorority Rumor We Need Answered & Why None of This Really Matters Anyway (April 12, 2026)

Episode Overview

This episode of "Feeling Things" with Amy and Kat, a segment on The Bobby Bones Show, is a lively and relatable exploration of everyday struggles and joys—from tracking sleep, small (but mighty!) home improvements, and the anxieties of wellness trends, to deeper topics like dyslexia, vulnerability, and being “seagulled” in relationships. With honesty and humor, the hosts swap stories and wisdom on why, ultimately, “none of this really matters anyway”—encouraging listeners to take life a little less seriously.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tracking Sleep, Wellness, and the Power of Placebo

Timestamps: 02:57–04:08

• Amy introduces her new Oura Ring, saying it’s now basically her “new identity” as she tracks her sleep and cycle (03:07).
• Celebratory notifications on the device for good sleep produce a sense of accomplishment—even if it might be “just a placebo effect.”

  "I've never had anything ever in my life that has ever tracked my sleep... I already received an excellent score, which apparently is rare. You get a little crown by your sleep score if you do good. And I love a good celebratory notification." – Kat (03:27)

• Discussion about competing brands (the Ultra Human ring), subscription models, and tracking cycles.

2. Household Competitions & the Joy of Small Wins

Timestamps: 04:25–06:13

• Kat shares (with gloat and celebration) about winning a March Madness bracket competition with her partner, securing a “custom day” planned just for her.
• Playful banter about household competitions, prizes, and surprise skills (or luck!) in bracket predicting.

3. Easter Egg Fails & the Importance of Perspective

Timestamps: 07:04–10:12

• Amy describes a humorous “fail” from an Easter egg hunt at her Pilates class—finding a golden egg... only for it to be empty (07:04).
• The conversation transitions to a satirical Instagram post:

  "By the way, before we begin, we're all gonna die and none of this really matters." – (09:17)

• Reflecting on how people often get worked up over little things—the wisdom: “We’re not saving lives here!”

4. Home Improvements: The Power of a Light Switch Cover

Timestamps: 10:54–14:06

• Kat shares the simple joy she got from swapping out plain white light switch covers for inexpensive, prettier ones from Amazon, making her feel “so adult” (11:30–12:38).
• Discussion on decor, the satisfaction of minor upgrades, and keeping rooms non-traditional or “not too girly.”

  "It made the biggest difference. And now I just love staring at my walls... I felt really adult because I just went around with a screwdriver and did it myself." – Kat (12:00)

5. Diet Coke, Food Fears, and Trusting Experts

Timestamps: 14:09–19:35

• Amy and Kat dive into food anxiety, specifically around Diet Coke and pregnancy.
• After seeing a doctor on Instagram debunk the idea of Diet Coke being “deadly,” Amy shares a more relaxed attitude—championing moderation over fear.

  "Why take—why, you don't have to be so serious about the Diet Coke, people." – Amy (17:20)

• Kat discusses confusion from social media vs. her doctor’s advice; consensus: trust your own healthcare provider.

6. Odd Facts: Rats, Birth Control, and Ecosystems

Timestamps: 19:35–20:46

• Fun detour: Amy describes a pilot program in DC giving rats birth control in an effort to humanely control population (19:43).
• Kat’s curiosity prompts questions about the logistics and ecosystem implications.

7. What Are We Reading & Watching?

Timestamps: 24:56–35:07

• Reading:
  • Kat is listening to audiobooks, “My Husband’s Wife,” rating it 3/5, and intends to read “The Theory of Goldan” (25:08).
  • Amy gives “Theory of Goldan” 5/5 stars for “all the feels” (25:29).

    "I loved it. Do you need the actual physical copy? Because I can give you mine." – Amy (25:38)

  • Amy shares her excitement about starting iron infusions and hopes it will boost her energy (26:53).
• Watching:
  • Amy just started the new season of “Your Friends and Neighbors” with Jon Hamm (28:10).
  • Kat highlights the “Untold” sports documentary on Lamar Odom, discussing his notorious overdose, relationships, and the surprising fact about Ron Artest (Meta World Peace) changing his name (29:15–30:24).
  • Discussion about uncomfortable celebrity stories, Freudian overtones, and humor about celebrity DMs.

8. Dyslexia: Struggles, Speech Patterns, & Representation in Media

Timestamps: 35:21–47:01

• Amy opens up about having dyslexia and the speech patterns that come with it, referencing a new Disney short, Maddie and the Test.
• They read through a list of signs of dyslexia in speech, including mispronunciation, trouble finding words, and “word salad,” with Kat reflecting on how these show up in Amy’s communication.

  “If I come across a word that is a struggle for me, I will change it.” – Amy (35:58)

• Playful attempts to spell challenging words like “diarrhea,” “nausea,” and “guarantee,” and sharing spelling tricks.

9. Dating Trends: “Seagulling” Explained

Timestamps: 47:02–51:46

• Kat introduces the term “seagulling,” where someone shows no romantic interest but strategically blocks others from connecting with that person—usually out of a desire for control or ego boost.

  "It's when you have no real romantic interest in a person, but you still keep others from him or her." – Kat (47:15)

• Amy recognizes this behavior in her own dating history and the two reflect on the confusing and manipulative nature of “seagulling,” including the frustration of “word salad” responses.

10. Sorority Hazing Rumors & College Life Reflections

Timestamps: 60:07–62:28

• Kat shares a notorious (possibly urban legend) rumor about Alabama sorority hazing (60:46). Both hosts reflect on choosing colleges/sororities due to family connections and wishing they’d explored more independently.

11. Dyslexia & Education (Personal Stories)

Timestamps: 62:49–67:16

• Amy describes her academic struggles growing up with undiagnosed dyslexia, low grades, and little family support for academics.
• Both hosts reflect on how earlier awareness and support could have changed their educational paths and boosted confidence.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Perspective:

  "We're all gonna die and none of this really matters." – Satirical Instagram quote read by Amy (09:17)

• On Winning by Luck:

  “To me, I don't know anything about basketball. That probably hurts.” – Kat (06:04)

• On Small Home Upgrades:

  "It made the biggest difference. And now I just love staring at my walls... I felt really adult because I just went around with a screwdriver and did it myself." – Kat (12:00)

• On Wellness Anxiety:

  "You hear, okay, the ingredients in this are bad and they'll give you cancer. It was done on a rat. A rat is tiny—I am big, you know?” – Amy (15:32)

• On “Seagulling”:

  "It's when you have no real romantic interest in a person, but you still keep others from him or her." – Kat (47:15)

• On Dyslexia and Acceptance:

  "Suddenly it all made sense... all of my various struggles. I now had an answer as to why certain things were difficult…Yay, I figured it out." – Amy (57:43)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [02:57] – Amy and Kat introduce themselves and discuss new sleep tracking devices.
• [04:25] – Household competitions and March Madness.
• [07:04] – Amy’s awkward Easter egg hunt story.
• [09:17] – Satirical wisdom: “None of this really matters anyway.”
• [10:54] – Kat’s inexpensive DIY house upgrade.
• [14:09] – Diet Coke, wellness anxieties, and trusting medical advice.
• [19:35] – Rat birth control in DC.
• [24:56] – Books and shows they’re currently reading/watching.
• [35:21] – Amy discusses dyslexia, speech, and educational struggles.
• [47:02] – “Seagulling” in dating: definition and personal stories.
• [60:46] – Alabama sorority hazing rumor.
• [62:49] – Reflections on growing up with undiagnosed dyslexia.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a blend of comedic, candid, and supportive conversation about the things we unnecessarily stress over, the absurdities of wellness culture and social trends, and the ongoing journey of embracing flaws, quirks, and personal history. Amy and Kat’s chemistry and their knack for weaving in humor and relatability make even the more vulnerable topics like dyslexia and dating mishaps feel accessible and validating—leaving the listener both entertained and a little less alone.

Closing Wisdom:

"Who cares? None of this matters anyways. We're all gonna die... just kidding. Full circle!" – Amy & Kat (67:19–67:27)

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If you ever have feelings and you just want some, maybe a cat got

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you covered like a number.

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Ladies and fellas, we just follow in

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the spirit where it tell us from

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the real stuff to the chill stuff

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and the in between.

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Sometimes the.

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This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.

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And I'm Kat.

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And I am feeling refreshed. Okay, so I got an aura ring and it's now my new identity.

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Wait, I saw you wearing that and didn't even register. Is that new?

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Yeah. How new at this point? One, two, three, four days or so. So I've seen you wear it very new.

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I saw you were on Friday maybe.

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Yeah, you probably just wasn't registering.

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So tell me about. I tried this life.

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Okay, well, I'm feeling refreshed because I've never had anything ever in my life that has ever tracked my sleep. And I have received so far a good score, a couple of good scores, and I already received an excellent score, which apparently is rare. And it gives you a little crown by your sleep score if you do good. And I love a good celebratory notification.

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So even if your sleep isn't different, just knowing that, like, it was good, it's like, okay, then it's double good.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Sort of back to the placebo effect we talk about sometimes. Like, who knows if I'm actually really refreshed, but I feel refreshed.

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Is that why you got the ring? Just to track sleep?

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Yes. I don't. I mean, I'll. I suppose. Oh. In my cycle, especially now that I'm in my hormone replacement therapy, I just want to be in the know of all the things. So I'm sleeping with it and I'm tracking it and I'm refreshed. What's your feeling of the day?

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Okay, I also have to say this. I got. I acted like I got a oura ring. I got the off brand called the Ultra Human. You can get it at Costco.

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I've never heard of that.

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You can get it at Costco. It was less expensive and they were saying that, oh, you don't have to pay a subscription for it. So all the features just come with it versus. Or you have to pay a subscription. I got it to track my cycle, and it always would die. Oh, you know, what's the point if it's dying? So anyway, maybe I'll. I don't need to track my cycle now. But I learned that I can't track my cycle. My cycle is untrackable. Anywho, I'm feeling excited and I. I was trying to think of a word for this, I guess celebratory. Celebratory. Because I won a competition in my household and the prize is really good.

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Like an Easter game?

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No. So I wish, like reindeer games. Like bunny games. No. So every year, Patrick and I will do a competition for March Madness. He's in, like four other competitions, but then we have one together that will fill out brackets and whoever wins gets a prize. The first year it was like, I think when we were dating, so I was like, you have to take me to a fancy restaurant. Then I think it was like, you have to. Whoever loses has to clean the bathroom. The last two years it's been, whoever loses has to plan a debt. A full day for the person who won of, like, all their favorite things. I think I talked about this when I. I had to do it for Patrick last year.

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Yes, I remember. Yeah.

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And I won. So he has to win a day for me.

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Okay, that's gonna be fabulous.

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And I'm excited about what it's gonna be. And also, I'm just like, what does it feel like to lose? To me, I don't know anything about basketball.

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That probably hurts. It celebratory fits you're feeling. Yeah, maybe.

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What's I'm feeling gloaty. Like, haha, nana boo boo.

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Yeah.

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And my team that I put to win is in the final, so, like, I could get. That's crazy to predict who won and I don't know anything about.

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So you could get a prize from that too?

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No, because I didn't put my bracket in any other.

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Oh, okay.

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Last year I got really close to winning the bracket at my gym, but I lost because of the last game. Isn't that crazy? All these guys have their brackets, and it's like little old me at the top.

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You show up at your gym, you played the brackets there.

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Yeah, they do every year. I'm not a member anymore because we moved, but you can pay. I think it was like, just join 25 $20 or something, and then you would win like 800 bucks.

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My Pilates place did the Easter egg hunt thing where they had these golden eggs hidden throughout the studio. And I found one of the golden eggs and I took it and it was empty. Yeah. And so then they were like, oh, it maybe was one that somebody got. And then they set it down when they were putting their shoes on or something.

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They should give you something.

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Well, they did say that, but I already felt awkward because I felt awkward

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to be like, oh, you're actually a loser.

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Yeah. I walked out of the bathroom, and it was sitting right there on the windowsill. So I was like, well, I feel silly, but the egg is right there waiting for me. And then the front desk is right there. So I just grabbed the egg and I was like, I just found this. And they were like, ooh, fine. And they opened it up and they go, it's empty. And. And I was like, oh, that's okay, because I already felt silly turning in the egg for the prize. And then they're like, well, we've got to get you something. And I was like, no, no, no, no, seriously, it's okay. And then I just walked out because I was like, what? I felt weird. I'm gonna give you a hug. Why?

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Because I can imagine that feeling of like, it's okay. I know I wasn't excited.

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Like, right, right. I found the golden egg. I found the golden egg. And then I was like, okay, I'm not like.

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You walk out and you're like, it wasn't that big of a deal. And then you start crying.

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I definitely didn't start crying, but I definitely just wanted to get the heck out of there because I didn't want to make it a thing. To where they now have to come up with an extra prize because, well,

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what were the prizes? Like a free, like a shirt?

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Socks. Like sticky socks. That would be legit.

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I should give you socks.

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I mean, I'm not worried about it. I already walked out. I. I was like, happy Easter. I gotta, gotta go, gotta go. I can't even believe I grabbed the egg. I should have just kept walking because I was like, I. I knew during class and they announced it. I was like, well, if I see an egg, I'm gonna leave it for somebody, cuz that will be fun for them. But then when I walked to the bathroom and the egg was like, staring at me that I was like, now I guess, like, why wouldn't. I can't walk past the egg. And then I went in so excited. And then it was empty and I was like, wal, I do have a fun thing that I saw, since we're at the start of the episode, that this could be something you could use at the beginning of a meeting. I mean, not really, but it's just a perspective to like, think about. And maybe we start keeping it in mind at the beginning of an episode.

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Okay, okay.

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It was just a little. It's satire.

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Okay?

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Like someone had posted it on Instagram of like, this is the perfect way to start a meeting. By the way, before we begin, we're all gonna die and none of this really matters. None of this is life or death. We're not saving lives. It's not that deep. So just a reminder before anyone gets too worked up over something with no real significance, wanted to set that straight. Okay, let's get started. And then, you know, so I thought, okay, yeah, like, we're here. We're doing a podcast. We're having a good time. We're not saving lives here. Now, if you're on a medical team and you're having a meeting, you are. You cannot use that. You are saving lives. And I'm sure some meetings are very important and they are significant. However, a lot of times we can get worked up throughout the day at work about things that just really don't matter, or we can treat things with such urgency that don't really.

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Yeah.

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Need the attention at that exact moment.

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I had a boss when I taught cycling who would get very worked up about things which, like, is, he owns a business, he's probably stressed, whatever, blah, blah. And the manager would always be like, we're literally just riding bikes. It's not that serious. Which I don't know if she said would say that to him, but she would say it, like, if we were in the mix of all of it, which was helpful. It's like, yeah, no, everything's fine. Everything is figureoutable here.

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You know, open to creative solutions.

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Solutions, yes. Okay. So we can't get worked up about this because we're not doing brain surgery and we're all going to die one day.

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Right.

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Cool.

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So we can talk about whatever you want.

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Okay, then I have something I want to talk about.

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Oh, what do you want to talk about?

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So this just made a really big difference and brought me so much joy, and so I just want to share it. I had this itch, you know, I moved into my house in September. There's a lot of things I want to do, but we're trying to do them slowly so we're not spending a ton of money at once. And I made the smallest change in my house. And I walk around being like, I could sell this house for $4 million now. We could not do that. Not even close. I switched the light switch covers from white. Do you have the white ones?

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Well, mine are. I changed them to brown. Oh.

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Oh. I can't even see one. Okay. So, you know, this is.

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The walls are brown and it blends in. So, like. But you have to. I had to have an electrician come because the little. The little switchy knob thing is also not white. It's not just the Plate cover.

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Oh, you really did it. Big shoot.

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Sorry.

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Okay.

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Sorry. Okay, sorry. Your dad could probably change that.

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I would. I will say it does bother me a little bit that like the switches are still white and you can. Because I switched them to this like gold brass.

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Yes. I have some that are brass with a white. I'm talking about my brow. Like if I did a brown plate, I got a brown switch. But my. Some of my brass plates, my. Some of my unlacquered brass plates so that they'll create some patina. They are white.

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Okay, that makes me feel better. Mine are lacquered brass. They're probably actually plastic. They're from Amazon. They're so cheap. And it made the biggest difference. And now I just love staring at my walls, you know when like you get something new and you just want to look at it. And I felt really adult because I just went around with a screwdriver and did it myself.

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Just changed out.

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Look at me. I'm an electrician.

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Yeah.

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So if anybody needs a easy inexpensive switch to liven up their house light

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switch covers, you know who has. And Amazon may have these, but you know who has really cute light covers?

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Anthropology.

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Yes.

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They're so expensive though. Well, you're $30 for like one you

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can type in to Amazon anthropology light switch. And it'll pull up some that they're not anthropology brand, but they have that whimsy vibe that can be a little more ornate. Well, it's okay. You got some that made you feel happy. I'm just saying for future you haven't you? You're taking it slow. So you didn't do every room, right?

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Oh,

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every light switch.

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I did almost every light switch except our bonus room and the baby nursery.

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So maybe for the baby nursery you could get a cute whimsy one.

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We're going for an antique vibe. In the nursery. I got a little. I didn't get. My sister in law is giving me a crystal chandelier that she had in her old house. And I'm like trying to. I'm trying to build around the light fixture. You know, I don't like pink and I'm not very girly, so I don't want it to be too girly, you know?

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Yeah, I think it's good to like keep it neutral because then also I

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don't know that's gonna be neutral. Oh, we're. I'm gonna do wallpaper.

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It's gonna be more feminine but.

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But not too cutesy girly. If that makes sense. Watch it be like all pink. It might change my mind.

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That's okay.

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Anyway, light switch covers shout out. I wanted to share that.

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Well, so speaking of life, not taking life too seriously, I have been enjoying way more Diet Cokes than my usual gas tank reward. Because, what was it? A week ago I came across this Instagram video from a doctor that it's pretty wise. I like a lot of her input on some things. And I saw her talking about Diet Coke and that you could have like 18 a day, which nobody's having 18 a day. I guess some people might be if they have a real addiction to it. But that's so expensive. I know, but there, there are people that drink a lot of Mountain Dew Diet Coke. Like, I'm sure they're out there if they're having multiple Cokes throughout the day. I eliminated Diet Coke altogether. Then I started to bring it back. If I fill my gas tank up on time, I get my little Diet Coke reward. Well, this last week I probably had more Diet Cokes than ever, but not no more than one a day. But it's the amount, like we have all this fear around us all the time, which I have contributed to the fear as well. I've regurgitated it. I am sorry. I am doing my best as a human to get by in this world. And you hear, okay, the ingredients in this are bad and they'll give you. Cancer was done on a rat. And a rat is the tiny. I am big, you know, right.

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Tiny tiny. Me big, right?

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Other people bigger like we. So therefore, you can maybe have more than 18. You can have two, five, maybe 25, I don't know. But it's, it's all about. It's, it's all relative to your size, your weight, what you can handle. And while I'm not going to be throwing them back all the time, I am going to enjoy them. Which brings me to last week. I was at a track meet when I learned this. And if you are a track parent, you know, and your child is in one more than one event, you can be there for long time. Long time, long time. So in between one of my son's races, I thought, oh, I think there's a McDonald's around the corner. I'm gonna go get one. As I was driving to McDonald's, it occurred to me, oh, Kat lives around the corner. I wonder if she's home. So I go through the drive through and I get a Diet Coke for us, me, you. And I'm just gonna drop it off real quick. Cause I don't Have a lot of time. But again, I had just seen that study, so I thought, cheers. Bottoms up. Let's go. I'm gonna take Cat a Diet Coke. And then I texted, and you were still at work, so you weren't home. So I took the Diet Coke back to the race with me, which my friend Claire was there. And it was so funny how that worked out because she was sitting in the stands, and when I walked up holding two Diet Cokes, she was like, if Diet Coke is for me, like, you're my favorite person in the world. And I was like, it is. And then I gave it to her.

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Glad I could offer that to her.

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Yeah. And so I enjoyed that McDonald's Diet Coke. And then I also got another Diet Coke when I went to Chick Fil a with Stevenson. And then I got another can waiting for me. I just.

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You feel freedom now?

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Yeah. It's like, why take. Why you don't have to be so serious about the Diet Coke people.

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Well, I got really scared because I saw a lot of people saying that you can't drink them when you're pregnant. And at first I thought it was because of the caffeine, but there's only, like. Well, there's only 50 milligrams of caffeine or whatever is. And you can have 200. So I could have. Technically, I could have four of those.

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Okay, well, I got you a medium.

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I would have probably drank a lot.

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Okay.

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But I. So I stopped drinking them for a while. And I was. It was really sad. At first I got the. At first, I got the caffeine free cans at the grocery store.

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They're not the same.

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I.

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Okay, do you feel like they taste the same?

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Well, maybe I was just telling myself that.

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Okay.

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But then I started seeing more people saying, like, you're not supposed to have it because of the ingredients of it. And so then I was like, well, shoot, I can't go nine months without. I don't drink a Diet Coke every day. But, like, when I want one, I want one. And if I have, like, Chick Fil A or something, well, Chick Fil A, I like to get a lemonade. But anyway, if I have certain things, if I'm out to eat, a lot of times I'm like, I want a Diet Coke. And so I asked my doctor, and this is some information for all of us. Your doctor knows best. TikTok. And Instagram sometimes knows what your doctor knows, but also sometimes scares you.

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Well, to be clear, the person I saw on Instagram is a legit Doctor. Doctor. She's the family practice.

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Well, I think I've just seen like other pregnant people.

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Okay.

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I never saw a doctor say don't do this.

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Also, she wasn't even talking about pregnancy, so I don't know. Carry on.

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She didn't say anything about the caffeine. She said to limit artificial sweeteners to one serving a day. So she said you can have one a day if you want one and

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you're likely not going to have one a day.

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No, but, but can I. Yeah, save them up and have a large at the end of the week.

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I mean like a, you know, But I guess it's probably how much your body can process at once in one

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answer that I wanted.

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Sorry, but. But yeah, I mean, what are they. Would they base it on with the like a little pregnant rat?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I think she also. I don't know because this is a new doctor for me. I think she airs more on the side of caution and is more like natural and stuff. I had to get a new doctor because I moved and my doctor moved to California.

[B]

So y' all both moved?

[A]

We both moved.

[B]

Did you know a rat's only pregnant for three weeks? What the heck? Yeah, they can get pregnant and deliver the baby in a three week period.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, that's why there's so many rats. That's like if there's a rat.

[A]

So they could have a lot of babies a lot of the time. A lot.

[B]

Yeah. That's why in where there's high volumes of people and trash in places like New York or D.C. did you see that? A lot of rats. Yes, that's how I know this. That's how I know this. I talked about this on the Bobby bones show in D.C. they're doing a pilot program where they're giving rats birth control.

[A]

How so?

[B]

Like they're setting bait and in the bait is birth control for the rat. And then so not. They need rats as part of the ecosystem. So they don't want to kill the rats. They just need to control the amount they. That they are producing. So if some of the rats receive the birth control, then that's less rats because. And they're monitoring them in a three week period. And I was like a three week period. Because that like first I was like, why three weeks? I don't know. They're. They're the specific bait somewhere. And then they're monitoring the rat population.

[A]

Oh, the population. Okay.

[B]

It's a pilot program. I mean there's a lot of people they're spending like $150,000 on the pilot program to try to control the rats.

[A]

I would be curious, would they just have to take one pill because like you wouldn't take birth control.

[B]

I know. No, they got to do the same

[A]

time every day to the bait.

[B]

So I don't know. They have to like take the bait and eat it and then they're. It's a pilot program, so I don't really know for sure if this is going to work. But yeah, they're giving the rats some bc, some birth control. Yeah. So good times, diet, cook and less rats. Yeah. Let's do a little bit of what are we watching? What are we reading? I do not have the bandwidth for a 20 step wellness routine. That's why I love Suja Organic Cold Pressed Juices and shots. I grab an Uber Greens or Ginger love and I feel like I actually did something nutritious for myself without making it a whole thing. They taste great, they're refreshing, and they're made from real superfoods. Suja's powerful cold pressed fruit and vegetable juices and daily wellness shots prove you don't need a wellness retreat to feel like you took one. Just sip and let the superfoods do their thing. Choose wellness that actually works. Cold pressed organic and Blended with benefits Suja Organic

[C]

so unless you've been living under a rock, you know that protein is essential especially for building and repairing your muscles after a workout. As to finding the right source of protein, the Garden of Life raw organic protein powder fits seamlessly into your routine with a delicious vanilla flavor. You can mix it with water, blend it with fruit into a smoothie, or even mix it into baked goods or oatmeal. This plant based protein is the good stuff. We're talking USDA organic, non GMO certified and made with real traceable ingredients including a diverse blend of sprouts, legumes, ancient grains, probiotics and a complete amino acid profile. Your body needs protein and this raw organic protein powder from Garden of Life is a seriously delicious protein source. Garden of Life Formulas for Feeling Alive

[B]

Available on Amazon Health insurance should make getting care easier, but sometimes it can feel like the opposite. That's why UnitedHealthcare is committed to putting care at the heart of health insurance with empathy, transparency and real human connection. I mean, doesn't care feel different when it's personal? When you can tell that the person on the other end of the phone, the screen and the Service genuinely cares? UnitedHealthcare is working to make that happen every day. They're also helping people make healthcare decisions with confidence, giving them the information they need to better understand their benefits, costs and claims. Because UnitedHealthcare knows when you understand that stuff, you can better get the care you and your family need. You know, care can show up in a lot of ways and everyone at UnitedHealthcare is committed to bringing it every day. Learn more about how UnitedHealthcare is committed to [e-mail] care get ready. The Top Shelf Country Cruise is back for a second voyage. Country superstar Riley Greene is going to be performing live on board along with Chris Young, Lauren Elena and Randy Hauser. Plus catch performances by Jackson Dean and Travis Denning. It's the ultimate country music experience at sea. We set sail in March 2027 aboard the luxurious Celebrity Summit departing from Tampa, heading to beautiful destinations Key West, Bimini, Cozumel. Enjoy seven days of entertainment plus games, contests, dancing, photo opportunities and so much more. It's all brought to you by Signature Cruise Experiences, the gold standard in charter cruises since 2001. You can now reserve any available stateroom and join us on board the Top Shelf Country Cruise. You can book [e-mail] or you can give the Signature Cruise Experiences office a call at 888-381-4420. Whichever way you sign up, you gotta hurry because these spots are going to fill up fast. Book now. Again, that's topshelfcountrycruise.com or call 888-381-4420. Let's do a little bit of what are we watching? What are we reading?

[A]

I'm reading nothing. But my goal is to read, read, read with my eyes in my brain. Thea of Golden I just finished with my ears. My husband's wife.

[B]

Well, so you are reading, but this isn't you. A book is reading.

[A]

Yes, it is. But I, I want to. I'm saving Theory of a Golden because I want to reread it. But what that's doing is just making me never read it. But this book, I would give a three out of five. Wasn't terrible. Wasn't jumping up and down about it. Your book?

[B]

Well, I finished Theo of Golden and I give it five out of five. Yeah, five, five stars. All the feels. I love it. Do you need the actual physical copy? Because I can give you mine.

[A]

Yeah, because I keep saying my Kindle is broken and I keep saying I'm going to fix my Kindle and then I'm going to read. But like, it doesn't seem like I'm going to do that.

[B]

Just take my physical copy. It's so good.

[A]

Did you cry?

[B]

I got emotional. I did not cry during this, which is interesting. I don't know.

[A]

It's because you're feeling so good.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe it's my testosterone. I. Well, man, now. Just kidding.

[A]

I saw you on Friday and I. What did I say to you?

[B]

Oh, I don't remember. What?

[A]

Your vibe is so different. Oh, like your vibe was vibing on Friday.

[B]

I had way more energy. Yeah, Friday, I. I don't know that I feel that same energy because obviously with our hormones, they fluctuate all the time. So whatever was. Whatever my concoction was, whatever was happening inside my body on Friday, I felt legit. Yeah, I did feel really, really good. And I get my iron tomorrow. My. And so finally we'll get to do the study of two weeks after the iron. I'm going to be a new person. So we can set the clock and maybe. Well, I have to get two infusions, so maybe we have to set it after the second infusion. But apparently that's where. Where I'm going to become a new person.

[A]

How long does that infusion take?

[B]

Like a couple hours, 45 minutes, I think she said. But I have to go back twice. And you can't just go anywhere. Like, I thought I could go like cryo Cat works at a. Where they give infusions, like drip, iv, all the nad. Different things like that. So I thought, oh, well, maybe they can just do the iron. But no, it's. It's a prescription. The two places I could go here, one of them was in an oncology place, like where cancer patients go. And I thought, oh, this is hardcore.

[A]

You would think you would go to like a. What is the blood doctor, a phlebotomist or something. Oh, isn't that what the person that studies blood is like? You'd go to their office and they would do it because it's just in your.

[B]

Yeah, I get the first injection or infusion tomorrow, and then the following week I'll get the second and then the clock will start. That's when the clock and then the countdown happens in two weeks. Then we can report back if you feel like I'm a different person or not. Oh, gosh, I will be so sad if I get worse.

[A]

Then get this iron out of me.

[B]

Who cares? Like, I don't know what I'm gonna do, but it will not be good. So, Theo Golden. That's what I read. So good. And what I'm Watching is Heads up. Your friends and neighbors returned to Apple. Did you watch season one of that?

[A]

Is that the show with Jon Hamm?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And he. There's like, the Robbery.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I had to stop watching that because it was giving me anxiety because I was just like, don't do it. It was one of those shows where you're like, don't do it. But then there wouldn't be a show if you didn't do it.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

So I didn't finish the first season.

[B]

Yeah. You love.

[A]

You liked it?

[B]

I liked it enough to where I was like, oh, season two's back.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

So that is what I have started to watch. What about you?

[A]

Okay, this is hilarious because Amy did say, I'm gonna give it behind the scene that we were going to share this, what we're watching. I wrote a note in our doc that I wanted to talk about. I wrote Lamar Odom, colon. Or is that a semicolon? Colon, Colon.

[B]

Semicolon is the document, right? Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Colon. Meta World. Because I wanted to share something I learned today. Amy said, well, you can share that you're watching Meta World. And I was like, I'm not watching Meta World. Okay. There is a New Untold, which are. They're sports documentaries, Right?

[B]

I like the Untold. Those are good.

[A]

It's on Lamar Odom. I'm only like 30 minutes in. It's very interesting because, like, the arc. I'm like, what's the point of this? Like. And why did he agree to do this? Does not paint him in a good light, however.

[B]

Wait, is he alive?

[A]

Yes, yes. He's very. He's in the documentary. He. He's. And this is. That's a big part of it. His overdose and stuff.

[B]

Why did I think he died?

[A]

Because he almost did. And he overdose at a brothel.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

It was a huge story. And Khloe Kardashian is in this, and he had a whole. He had a. Another fiance that he had three kids with. She's in it. It's very interesting. It is very interesting life. But the way he met Chloe, from my understanding, is this guy, this. This basketball player that was on. I think he was on the Lakers with Lamar. His name is Ron Artest. But when they show him. You know how they show somebody the first time in documentary, they'll say their name instead of his name. It said Metta World Peace, formerly known as Ron Artest. And I thought to myself, this man changed his name to Metta World Peace.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you know that yes. This was, like, shocking information. I texted Patrick and I was like, there's a basketball player name Meta World Peace. And I thought this was, like, great news. He was like, yeah, he's a little crazy. Apparently. He's. Are there stories on him? Oh, so you know who this is?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Shoot. Okay. Well, I thought that was interesting. That is how Lamar met Khloe Kardashian. Is this guy had Chloe host something for him.

[B]

Oh, Meta. Did

[A]

he go by Meta? I don't know.

[B]

I'm just calling him that.

[A]

Anyway, I would recommend. Even though I'm not done watching it, it is. I mean, as sad as historia. It's very interesting. However, I don't know that it gets. You know how a lot of people have the documentary at the end. It's like. And they made something of themselves and they changed their ways.

[B]

Oh, there's not, like, a redemption story happening.

[A]

I don't know. He was on a recent episode of the Kardashians, and it seemed as though he still was. I don't know if he's using. He could be sober, but I don't know that he is on a. I don't know what he's doing with his life. I don't know how to say.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. When Shannon just looked this up. When Chloe met him at the party that he was hosting. She was hosting for meta. They married 30 days later. They met at the party, instantly connected. Married 30 days later. That is really crazy.

[A]

And he didn't invite any of his family to the wedding?

[B]

Well, his family, I think.

[A]

No, he has, like. He has, like, an aunt that raised him. Like, he wouldn't have invited his dad. I think his dad was using and his mom had passed away, but, like, his aunts and his cousins and any of them. None of them were invited because his aunt's in the documentary, and none of his kids went. His. His daughters were like. And then I'll. I won't want to give too much of this away. But his daughter or his son were basically like, I didn't want to go to this wedding and be like, a show pony kind of thing. Because it seemed. I think they were like, what's going on? You're marrying my dad in 30 days. But apparently he. I think he just wanted to be more famous.

[B]

Well, Lamar mentioned in a documentary that Chloe's eyes reminded him of his mother's, which made him feel an immediate connection. Is that like, some Freudian stuff? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yikes.

[B]

You look just like my mom. I want to be with you.

[A]

If Patrick reminded me of my dad's eyes, I think I would have to be like, we'll be friends.

[B]

I saw a clip of, like, who's the guy from Entourage? Adrian Grenier or what's his name? He's, like, the really beautiful guy from Entourage. Pretty eyes and the good hair. He was doing some podcasts, talking about how, in his romantic relationships, he wanted to be like, he was very much a mama's boy and, like, you know, wanted to be held. And he was like, you know, like, I was just, like, still, like, on the boob or whatever. And I was, like, thinking, what? And then now you're associate. You're talking about, like. And he's like, and then when I'd be cuddling my wife, like, I'd be like, you know, holding her and on her boob and be like, why aren't you holding me? Why aren't you comforting me? Why aren't you? You know? And I was like, this is weird. I mean, it's not. I understand, but it just felt weird. But good for him. It seemed like he'd done a lot of internal work, and he wanted to

[A]

be held like, his mother held him.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

He just didn't need to say, like, yeah.

[B]

The way it was, like, on the. Like, the. However he said it, I felt uncomfortable, but I appreciated overall what he was saying. It was just the way he went about saying it gave me the ick.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was like, oh, it just reminded me of that, like, him seeing his mom's eyes, and Patrick was like,

[A]

I want to be on your boob.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I want to, like, be on your boob because I used to milk from my mom's poop. Like, I don't know. Like, that just. I. I don't. That's just, like, not what I want to hear.

[A]

I need to find this clip because I need to know what he actually said.

[B]

Oh, I can try to.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Find it for you, but that's just something that interesting.

[A]

I never watched Entourage.

[B]

Yeah, I watched it a little bit here and there.

[A]

Why are you smiling?

[B]

Because I know. I know why you're smiling. You're like. Oh, the. The other guy from Entourage. Jeremy. What? Piven.

[A]

Don't act like you don't.

[B]

No, I couldn't think of his last name. I was gonna. I. I couldn't. I. I do know, but. Yeah. No, I haven't replied.

[A]

Well, okay. Not everybody knows what you're talking about.

[B]

He DM'd me. Yeah, that's it. And then I had to go.

[A]

And then I said, I don't know, that he has the best track record.

[B]

And then you with women. Yeah. So Per. The Internet.

[A]

Yeah. Per. Yeah. We don't have. We don't have any sources.

[B]

Yeah. We don't know. We just.

[A]

Wikipedia. Yeah, that's my source.

[B]

Yeah. It's, like, very trustworthy. Quick research disclosed that maybe. I don't. I don't know. Well, that's interesting about Lamar and Chloe and Meta and World and Theo, we got. Yes. You're not. You watch the Untold.

[A]

Yeah, Well, I watched the first half

[B]

of the first half of it. And then you finished the book. And then you're going to start Theo of Golden.

[A]

If you give me the book today, I'll start it tomorrow.

[B]

I will give you the book today. Okay. Speaking of reading things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I saw that there are signs of dyslexia in someone's speech, and I want to go through the list and you tell me if you think any of these apply to me as someone I already know I have dyslexia. So it's fine. You're not going to, like. We're not, like, diagnosing me here, but it's just sort of. When I saw this list, I was like, huh. I know how I feel. But, like, when you hear me say these things, do you recognize them in me?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Why'd you make a weird face?

[A]

Well, I was gonna say, but then I don't know if this is, like, ignorant. You read very well.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Out loud.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, that feels like that would be a struggle if you have dyslexic. Do you feel like you struggle with it?

[B]

Because I feel like you struggle certain words. And I think I'm okay. I think I've done well with speaking, and I've had to read a lot the last 20 years for work. Yeah. So therefore, I read well in that way. But if I come across a word that is a struggle for me, I will change it.

[A]

You'll just use a different word. Okay. Yeah, that's smart.

[B]

I'll use a different word. I think it's one of those tools I had to just develop over. Because Disney also came out with a movie about dyslexia, a little short film recently, in the last couple of weeks, I forget what it's called. Maddie. And maybe it's Maddie has dyslexia. We'll look it up. But in the movie, they address the misconception that. Which I'm not saying this is what you're implying, but other people Think of dyslexia as that just automatically words are jumbled and you can't read or it's difficult to read because if you see T H e the people think people with dyslexia are seeing H e T and it's like what's the word where it is? In some cases they do have letters that get jumbled. That's not my form of dyslexia.

[A]

Well, that's why I said this. Might be ignorant to say like, I don't know what I'm talking about.

[B]

So interesting. I'll figure out the name.

[A]

So I'm telling you if I think you have these or you do these things.

[B]

Yeah. And this is from a dyslexia expert. I do not have the bandwidth for a 20 step wellness routine. That's why I love Suja Organic Cold Pressed Juices and Shots. I grab an Uber Greens or Ginger love and I feel like I actually did something nutritious for myself without making it a whole thing. They taste great, they're refreshing and they're made from real superfoods. Suja's powerful cold pressed fruit and vegetable juices and daily wellness shots prove you don't need a wellness or treat to feel like you took one. Just sip and let the superfoods do their thing. Choose wellness that actually works. Cold pressed, organic and Blended with benefits Suja Organic so unless you've been living

[C]

under a rock, you know that protein is essential, especially for building and repairing your muscles after a workout. As to finding the right source of protein, the Garden of Life raw organic protein powder fits seamlessly into your routine with a delicious vanilla flavor. You can mix it with water, blend it with fruit into a smoothie, or even mix it into baked goods or oatmeal. This plant based protein is the good stuff. We're talking USDA organic, non GMO certified and made with real traceable ingredients including a diverse blend of sprouts, legumes, ancient grains, probiotics and a complete amino acid profile. Your body needs protein and this raw organic protein powder from Garden of Life is a seriously delicious protein source. Garden of Life Formulas for Feeling Alive

[B]

Available on Amazon Health insurance should make getting care easier, but sometimes it can feel like the opposite. That's why UnitedHealthcare is committed to putting care at the heart of health insurance with empathy, transparency and real human connection. I mean, doesn't care feel different when it's personal? When you can tell that the person on the other end of the phone, the screen and the Service genuinely cares? UnitedHealthcare is working to make that happen every day. They're also helping people make healthcare decisions with confidence, giving them the information they need to better understand their benefits, costs and claims. Because UnitedHealthcare knows when you understand that stuff, you can better get the care you and your family need. You know, care can show up in a lot of ways and everyone at UnitedHealthcare is committed to bringing it every day. Learn more about how UnitedHealthcare is committed to [e-mail] care get ready the Top Shelf Country Cruise is back for a second voyage. Country superstar Riley Greene is going to be performing live on board, along with Chris Young, Lauren Elena and Randy Hauser. Plus catch performances by Jackson Dean and Travis Denning. It's the ultimate country music experience at sea. We set sail in March 2027 aboard the luxurious Celebrity Summit departing from Tampa, heading to beautiful destinations Key West, Bimini, Cozumel. Enjoy seven days of entertainment plus games, contests, dancing, photo opportunities and so much more. It's all brought to you by Signature Cruise Experiences, the gold standard in charter cruises since 2001. You can now reserve any available stateroom and join us on board the Top Shelf Country Cruise. You can book [e-mail] or you can give the Signature Cruise Experiences office a call at 888-381-4420. Whichever way you sign up, you gotta hurry because these spots are going to fill up fast. Book now. Again, that's topshelfcountrycruise.com or call 888-381-4420. Here are some of the signs of dyslexia in someone's speech. They struggle to say long words. They misuse or mispronounce words often.

[A]

Do you have a couple? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Yolk Dwarf crown.

[A]

I don't like when you say yolk.

[B]

They mishear words, which leads to misusing words.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I know that that one's hard for you to answer. They struggle to find the words they want to use.

[A]

Yes, but I feel like that's common.

[B]

Is that part of our ADHD too?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe they use I'm a lot.

[A]

I don't think you do that really. But maybe it's because I am used to you saying it. I don't know. I'd have to go back and look for it. I feel like you have things that you say but I don't know if is one of them. And like I was gonna say I like you use.

[B]

But they can speak articulately when speaking from the heart. But if they need to explain something specific, they can really struggle to articulate and make themselves clear.

[A]

Yeah. That's why you love a script.

[B]

I like a script in a moment. If I'm having to deal with something very specific.

[A]

It helps you keep it concise.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And say what you.

[B]

And say what I need to say. Because I can go.

[A]

You can overexp.

[B]

I can. Yeah. Or I have a difficult time even recalling what I'm supposed to say because I'm so.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But if I get to just speak from the heart. But if it's something like, I've been given a script, like from a therapist or something, and it's very important that you say it exactly this way. Or you could enter into a pattern or doing a dance, as they call it, with someone in your life. So that's why I like a script. They can use a lot of language. There's not always a lot of substance to what they're saying. Do you feel like you do that sometimes? Well, you would call this a word salad, maybe.

[A]

Because I like the way you do it. I don't know.

[B]

Oh, cool.

[A]

Word salad to me is when somebody is trying to, like, avoid answering something or when somebody's trying to sound more eloquent, but they're actually saying nothing. You know what I mean?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You're just animated and interesting.

[B]

Oh, thank you. The final thing is it can take them a long time to get to the point.

[A]

Yeah, that one fits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, I like the way you storytell.

[B]

Yeah. I don't. I'm not going to change any of this about me. These are just. Just some signs. And of course, if you have any of these, it doesn't mean that you have dyslexia.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There are other variants.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe you have a different one. It just is. I never heard someone talk about how you may be able to pick up on it or get curious or about their.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If they have a disorder based on how they talk.

[A]

Talk. Yeah.

[B]

In their speech patterns. And now I am like. This is why I say yoke and drawer and crown wrong every time.

[A]

And poem.

[B]

And poem.

[A]

I do poems where it all started for me.

[B]

And there's some words I avoid at all costs. I can't spell certain things for the life of me that I like.

[A]

Restaurant. Can you spell restaurant?

[B]

I can spell restaurant because I guess I grew up in the. Rest I spell guarantee. Business. Guarantee is actually not that hard for you. But what about license or diarrhea?

[A]

Oh, I can't do Diarrhea or nausea. Yeah, I, like, give up on those. When I'm, like, trying to autocorrect, I'm like, whatever. You get what I'm saying?

[B]

Like, yeah, and it can't. But it can't.

[A]

Sometimes it doesn't get auto corrected because it doesn't know what I'm saying.

[B]

How can you. I'm obviously trying to spell nausea here. Like, just give it to me. Like, I'm feeling. If. If I say I'm feeling in, you should know I'm trying to say nauseous, so you should do it.

[A]

Wait, try to spell diarrhea. D I. I can't do it either.

[B]

A dia. R E, H A H. I was gonna say HHA there's two R's. Oh, it's two R's. Yeah. Okay. D A, D, I, A, R, R, E, AJ No.

[A]

Shannon's shaking her head.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

H, E, O, C. Why'd they make it that way? Why did they spell it out?

[B]

I don't know. I wish I would recall this funny video I saw someone make the other day. I'm not gonna do it justice in telling back the details of this, but just trust. It was so funny. It was like, let me use restaurant.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Restaurant. Like, your brain is telling you, and it's like your brain talking to you in this video. And he's like, restaurant, dummy. Like, and it's, like, giving you the ways to remember it. Like, February. Stupid head.

[A]

February. I can do restaurant.

[B]

Yeah, Restaurant can be difficult.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

I think I can do guarantee, but do guarantee. Okay.

[A]

G U. I don't know how to spell it, so I'm looking at Shannon.

[B]

Okay. G U, A, R, E, N, T. No. Oh.

[A]

You were like, oh. Guarantee is actually pretty easy for me. Apparently not.

[B]

Well, I could see it in my head, and it looked correct.

[A]

That's the problem. It looks correct, but it's not. There's something tricky about it. Okay, try again.

[B]

I see it. Oh, I saw it. Too late. I didn't mean to. I saw it. Oh, see, I put two T's, but it has two E's. Oh, my gosh. Diarrhea. I had nothing. Right. So. So, like, his. The. The video I saw, he'd be. His brain would be like, dar. Dar. Hey, idiot. You know, like, nah, she us.

[A]

It's not. We should say nasius.

[B]

Nasio us. Like, he. His brain be like, nasio us stupid. But, oh, license, luck. And say licking, lick. And say like. These are ways we need to start remembering it because we need to know how to spell license. Look and say, I can spell license. I cannot ever, so I avoid it.

[A]

Do you want to hear a new thing people are doing in the dating world?

[B]

Yeah. Why are you doing that? Because I'm single now. Are you telling me this? Yeah.

[A]

And I want to make sure you're not being caught up in this because. Not good. No bueno, as they would say.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I actually just learned about this this morning. Have you heard the term seagulling spell?

[B]

Seagull. Just kidding.

[A]

This is now a spelling podcast.

[B]

G, U, L, L. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so this is a new thing that people are doing. It's when you have no real romantic interest in a person, but you still keep others from him or her.

[B]

Well, wait, I don't really know how I feel about this. This sounds.

[A]

It's not good.

[B]

Very problematic.

[A]

Well, yeah, it's not good. Is it bad you don't want to

[B]

get caught in this thing?

[A]

Yes, this is bad. You may like having control over the person or being or be getting something that you don't want others to have. So when I first heard this, I thought something different. I thought it was like when, you know, in middle school, and you're like, I like Brian. And then none of your friends could like Brian.

[B]

Yeah, you tell me.

[A]

You did that, too.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

It's like, you're not allowed to like him because I like him. That's what I thought it was. But then Brian obviously doesn't like me, but nobody's allowed to date them. I thought that's what it was, but it's. No, it's when you. You're. I do not like Amy, but I do things that make sure nobody else can get to Amy.

[B]

So subconsciously, do you like this person? Because. Why would you be blocking.

[A]

Well, why do people seagull? This is what they say. This is from an article on Psychology Today. So the reason. Why do people seagull? They do this because they're not ready to let go of you for whatever reason, despite the lack of romantic interest in you. Maybe the seagull, which is. I don't know if you're the seagull or I'm the seagull.

[B]

Well, we're not romantically involved, but.

[A]

What are you talking about? Maybe the seagull can still get something from you, such as companionship, status, or financially, that he or she doesn't want to lose. It can be about possessiveness and control as well. The seagull may like the idea of keeping you on the hook, keeping you from anyone else. It can be an ego Boost to have that type of sway over you that whenever the seagull calls, you'll be available. This can essentially be food for someone who likes to manipulate. So this is more so, like, I know that I don't want to be with you. It's probably why a lot of people end up in situationships. I know I don't want to be with you, but I get something out of you. So I want to make sure that you don't leave me and go be with somebody else. Does that make sense?

[B]

Do you think that that one person that we talk about, he was sealing you? Did he seagull me? Because it's like he wasn't interested. And until he was. And it was when he lost kind of getting. I don't want people to take this the wrong way. It wasn't like, things for me, other than it could even be like a meal, you know?

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Like, I'm not saying things for me in other areas, but, like, just the comforts of a home.

[A]

He was

[B]

in a car, groceries. Right, right, right, right, right.

[A]

100%. He was seagulling you. And he was manipulating. He was manipulating because. I don't want to speak too much on this if I'm gonna say this. We can cut it out if you want me to.

[B]

Just. If you say too much, I'll start screaming. Okay, try it.

[A]

You were not able to be interested in anybody else while he was in your vicinity.

[B]

What was also interesting is like, I didn't know what would be going on with us. So then I got on hinge. And then things would kind of uptick in communication. Sharing of photos. Like, appropriate photos. Like, I'm not.

[A]

Just naked photos.

[C]

Not a big deal.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[B]

Piper, no, no, not even that. Just more like. Yeah, like every type of communication. Sharing more of life day to day. You know, I'd be like, wait, what? I'm. And then it was confusing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, we didn't have a term for it, but now I guess we do. And it was seagulling.

[A]

And do you remember there. This is kind of more. Early on, when we were talking. You'll remember this. I was like, it's. You just need to know what the deal is so then, like, you can act appropriately. If he's trying to date you, you need to know if he's trying to date you. If he's not trying to date you, then you need to know that. So then you can, like, be friends with him if you're. If you want. If you're okay with being friends with him. Remember you asked him like what the deal is? I don't know how you said it, but he sent you back this voice memo and you sent it to me and I was like, this says nothing. That's word salad. It said nothing and it was so long and I was like, there's so many words. And like he, it was like he was talking in the clouds. But then it gave you enough where you were like, well, he might be trying to date me, but like he

[B]

wasn't until I set a boundary and until suddenly he was like in love.

[A]

Then he wanted to marry you, right?

[B]

Forever.

[A]

Crazy. Yes. So I didn't know this, but they call it seagulling because it says it's similar to the tendency of seagulls to grab food whether or not they're hungry, simply because they don't want others to get the food. Seagulls are not friendly.

[B]

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[A]

Bagel.

[B]

A bagel. You knew that. Did you know that joke or did you just guess it? I just put it together. You're smart. No dyslexia there. Just kidding. People with dyslexia.

[A]

You do have it.

[B]

I didn't want to imply that. Yeah, plenty of people with dyslexia.

[A]

You're smart.

[B]

Are brilliant. There was just a lot of who the governor of California was talking about how he was dyslexic. And there was whole thing of, like, people saying he, like our president was saying. That was a surprise. Yeah.

[A]

What has he not said?

[B]

Yeah, you know, that's good times, good times.

[A]

The more you know.

[B]

Wait, did we look up the name? I want to know the name of the Disney movie that was about dyslexia. So maybe we can figure that out if people want to watch it. Okay, we've got Maddie. And the test is the name of that Disney movie that I was talking about earlier. We looked it up, so it's a short film. Apparently it can be very helpful. I have not Watched it yet? I only have heard about it, but I'm going to watch it. But it might be good for your kids too.

[A]

Where can you watch it?

[B]

It's Disney. So I imagine Disney plus that makes a short film on Disney.

[A]

For some reason when I hear short film I think that you like can't watch them anywhere. I feel like you have to go

[B]

to a film festival. Maybe it's a YouTube.

[A]

Well, this is something I've made up in my head. I haven't, I don't know. I think you probably can watch on Disney plus but when you hear like at the film festival, the best short film, I'm like, where are people watching this?

[B]

So it's a 2026 Disney plus animated short film that depicts the experience of a 10 year old girl named Maddie with dyslexia. The film illustrates the anxiety and challenges she faces during a math test such as letter shifting and merging, while highlighting her inner strength to overcome these challenges. So this particular character, it does do that actually. Ah, now that I'm reading this description, the guy I saw talking about this online, he loved this film and thought it was so great and was encouraging others to check it out. He. I think now, if I'm recalling correctly, one of his frustrations was he wished they would have made it more clear that it's not just about letters shifting and moving around. I think when I explained the movie earlier when we were talking about it, I think they did touch on that. But that was his one little teeny tiny gripe with it as someone that is dyslexic himself. Otherwise he thought it was done really well done.

[A]

Well, I think your homework. My homework is to read Theo of Golden.

[B]

Your homework is to watch this Maddie and the test.

[A]

Yeah. And see if you, if that would have helped. Well, you didn't know you had dyslexia as a kid.

[B]

No. And when I found out a couple of years ago, the right when she told me, I just started crying. But I was like, I couldn't even help it. You know, when she was administering the test to me, I already was like, okay. Some parts I was do. I did really well. So I thought, oh well maybe you know, not. And then when she told me, it's like the floodgate was opened and it was just this relief because suddenly it all made sense. All of my various struggles. I how now had a answer to or a reason as to why certain things were difficult. And yay, I figured it out.

[A]

What would have been different if you would have known that as a kid? Was maybe you would have more resources,

[B]

would have been different.

[A]

You would have had.

[B]

I'm telling you, I think. I don't. I am not exaggerating at all. When I think sometimes teachers just passed me. I don't know. I wish I could go back and talk to some of my teachers, like, in good. In a little time machine and be like, did I really.

[A]

Did I really make that grade?

[B]

Yeah. Or like, were you just like, she's bright enough? Okay. Yeah, I obviously was.

[A]

You got into college.

[B]

Yeah. So that's interesting you say that, because I did. I only applied to one college and I actually didn't get in.

[A]

Well, you went there. So what happened?

[B]

I went there. Okay. So out of high school, I just applied to Texas A and M. I didn't get in. So I had to go to the junior college in College Station, which is blinn. So I moved to College Station. And then I was so mortified that I didn't get in that. Whatever that does to my brain, my especially in ADHD brain, being under pressure and feeling any shame and wanting to prove to people, like, it was almost like I had a deadline. I had one year at this junior college to get into A and M because I wasn't going to spend two years there. Oh, I mean, and I know some people do that. That's fine. But for me, I was like, I couldn't believe it. Which, looking back, I shouldn't have been that shocked. I did not really prepare for college at all. And I just applied to one place because that's where my sister went. So I was like, well, that's where I'm gonna go.

[A]

And you had no doubt that you would get in.

[B]

I just kind of thought. I just didn't really think about it. Nobody really. I didn't do college visits. My parents didn't really talk to me about college again. That's just where my sister went. So that's what I did. And even my sister had to figure that out herself.

[A]

So if you could go back in time, are there colleges you wish you would have applied to or went and visited? Now, like, looking back, I mean, it

[B]

would have been cool, but I loved going to A and M, so I wouldn't change anything. But when I see moms taking their kids on college visits, like, I'm like,

[A]

oh, I asked that because I wish I would have put more effort into, like, looking around. Yeah, the school I went to, I went to because my sister was there. And I was literally the same thing. And I was supposed to go to Alabama But I got scared because I heard this is how anxious I was. Although I think this is kind of legit reason not to go somewhere. I heard that in the sororities at Alabama, they're like, hazing is that they sat you on dryers and had them shake and had guys come circle all your fat. That was shaking.

[B]

What?

[A]

That was a big rumor. I don't know if they really do that. But I was like. I had. Also, I had a lot of body image issues back then. And I was like, that's my worst nightmare. And I didn't really, like, drink or party anything or anything in high school. And so going to a school like that, I was like, are people even gonna like me?

[B]

Okay, so. But as someone who rushed in college, which I think you did.

[A]

I did, too. Okay. We didn't have hazing.

[B]

Well, no, there. Well, there also, I was at Texas A and M where I think there was rumors of hazing, But I had. In the fraternities, sure, they had certain things, but the sororities, there was zero hazing like that. And I would put, like, A and M and Alabama in the same category of types of schools.

[A]

Well, if you went to Alabama and you were in a sorority and they made you sit on a dryer and circle your fat, let me know, because that's the sole reason I didn't go to that school. And it changed the trajectory of my life. However, I will say it worked out for the best. I have a feeling if I went to Alabama, I don't know if I would have lasted or, like, I could have gone crazy.

[B]

Yeah. If that happened to you, which sorority was it? We want to know. Certainly it was not.

[A]

We're going to report them.

[B]

It wasn't. I was captured Gamma. What were you a find mew? Oh, kkg Kathy.

[A]

But also, I went to. I was in the same sorority as my sister, too. So that's one thing that I wish that, like, I had, which my sister was two years older, so I had time by myself. But I. I do wish that I. And that's why I wanted to go to Alabama, because nobody in my family went there. I wish I had my own completely thing.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

Where nobody knew me.

[B]

And I did end up going to AD My sister was a Chi Omega, and that was my one thing where I thought, I don't want to go somewhere just because I'm a legacy, because I feel like they were picking me. I wanted to see if someplace would pick me just for me. And so I ended up going Kappa which my sister was very sad about.

[A]

Well, I think that was why I did find you, is that my sister would have been. I don't know if we would have made it through.

[B]

Yeah, well, and she was still there. My sister had already left, so it would. We're four years apart. I didn't know that. Okay, well, back to my freshman year. I really dialed in and I got a 4.0 and then got into A and M. I don't even know. That was crazy to me.

[A]

Is that your first 4.0?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Or it was like a 3. Let me back up, Let me back up.

[A]

You can round up.

[B]

No, I definitely just had a little revisionist history there. I got a 3.9, which is basically a point. But I mean that. Yes. At 3.9. That's the highest. Yes. In high school. I had a 2.9 something. What is that face?

[A]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make that face. I made.

[B]

You made it right after I said two point something, like.

[A]

Because I didn't know that.

[B]

Oh, yeah. No, I was not a good student.

[A]

But also, being a good student doesn't mean you're not intelligent. I think that's why. That's my shock.

[B]

I'm like, well, you're pretty intelligent. To your point. If I had had the tools and the resources. I wasn't a good student because school was hard. Yeah, I was very social. I could get by enough. But I didn't read. I hated to read. I think eventually I figured out. But I didn't start reading until I was an adult. Like, I read books now, and this is my year.

[A]

You have to qualify. What you're saying what, you mean like, you didn't start reading books for fun until you're an adult?

[B]

Correct.

[A]

But first I was reading.

[B]

I also didn't read any of the required reading that I thought you meant.

[A]

Like, you didn't learn how to read.

[B]

Are you kidding? I just bought the CliffsNotes for everything.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, of course. I feel like that's pretty normal.

[B]

Oh, okay. Well. And I barely read those.

[A]

So you read them, like, right before the test.

[B]

So math was difficult because also with dyslexia, there's. And I don't know how to say this because of my dyslexia. I can never say it correctly, but it's like dyscalculia. That's the math version of it. And I have that too. So this is hard. Yeah. I feel like some teachers are like, she's got potential, so let's just send her on to the next.

[A]

She's. She's trying her best. But would you even say you're trying or do you just kind of give up sometimes?

[B]

I don't know. I don't know. I have little memory of memorizing things and having, like, tips and tricks and tools on how to remember things because I think I was just surviving in the moment. Because by the time I got to high school and people knew all their adverbs and nouns, like, I was like, what the.

[A]

You learned that when you were like,

[B]

yes, yes, but I did. I remember my freshman year of high school, like, there was like a pop quiz the first day from our English teacher, Mr. Warren. He was very hardcore. He used to work for NASA. And I was very intimidated by him and I think he was frustrated by me. But we had this pop quiz and I remember looking around and all these people, they knew exactly what they were doing. And I was like, what the. Like, I don't know what he is talking about. And it was basic stuff. And I failed the quiz. But that's just, like, it didn't retain, like, whatever I had learned, maybe in seventh, eighth grade, it didn't retain and come over with me to ninth grade. And I was like, first day of school. Like, I needed I could survive a

[A]

pop quiz on the first day of school. What's up with that?

[B]

He did come on NASA. He didn't mess around. I think he was a disgruntled astronaut who didn't get to go to space. But he wanted to. Maybe. I'm not sure. Actually. I'm sure he was a lovely person. I just was very, very intimidated by him. Like, he. I remember he called my mom to talk to her. But then, I think I've told you before, my parents didn't really have the bandwidth to worry about my school. They just didn't. My dad wasn't that involved. And then my mom was so busy trying to figure out her stuff after my dad left, like, trying to build her career. And yeah, she was so busy. Like, they never asked for my report card or anything. So I didn't have accountability at home. I had good parents. They were involved, but there wasn't accountability.

[A]

Do you think you would have if. If you. This is a hard question to ask, but if you would have had the resources and you felt more confident in school, is there a career you feel like you would have gone into?

[B]

You know, sky's the limit.

[A]

There wasn't like, something that you wanted to do, and you're like, I could never do that. Like, maybe you wanted to be a doctor, but you're like, I'll never be able to.

[B]

I mean, I thought about being a veterinarian for quite some time because my uncle was. And obviously a M. That's. And yeah. Then at some point you figure out that's off the table. At some point you're like, probably not gonna happen. I don't know exactly when that revelation was, but I. I realized, like, yeah, probably not in the cards for me, but I was like, if my uncle Frank can do it, I can do it, I can do it. But anyways, worked out for you. That's my journey. Yeah. I'm fine with it because it gave me who knows what other qualities that gave me as part of my personality, how I show up, who I am. Like, I don't know. The resilience factor.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

At this point, we're not going to change it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm just gonna drink Diet Cokes and Who cares? None of this matters anyways.

[A]

We're all gonna die.

[B]

Just kidding.

[A]

Full circle.

[B]

Don't think that way. Don't think that way.

[A]

You told us to think that way.

[B]

No, it's being the satire.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Satirical. Yes.

[A]

Is that right? S a I R satirical. I. Cool. Yeah.

[B]

We hope wherever you are, you're loving life, living large and that you have

[A]

the day you need to have.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

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