FEELING THINGS: Meeting Ourselves Where We Are (F-Bombs and Feelings)

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: "FEELING THINGS: Meeting Ourselves Where We Are (F-Bombs and Feelings)"

Original Air Date: February 8, 2026
Hosts: Amy & Kat (Feeling Things, an iHeart Podcast spin-off of The Bobby Bones Show)
Producer: Houston

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Feeling Things" features Amy and Kat navigating life in the midst of an unexpected Nashville ice storm, sharing personal anecdotes around resilience, frustration, and the importance of embracing emotions as they come—whether that means feeling ragey about a broken treadmill or laughing at a critical listener email. They discuss the realities of technical failures, living authentically (including dropping the occasional F-bomb), and how to meet yourself with compassion—even when things don’t go as planned. The tone is conversational, honest, and peppered with humor and self-reflection.

Key Theme:

"Meet yourself where you are. Have the day you need to have."
The hosts urge listeners to allow themselves to feel their feelings—good, bad, or silly—and to be gentle with themselves (and others) through life's messier moments.

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Episode Structure

• [00:00–03:01] – Brief sponsors and intro music (skipped)
• [03:01–03:16] – Theme song/mission of "Feeling Things"
• [03:16–16:52] – Behind the scenes: the ice storm, tech and life mishaps, and lost episodes
• [16:57–24:45] – Banter: "Questions That Don’t Come Up" & the Randomness of Saying "O" vs. "Zero"
• [24:45–40:26] – Feelings of the Day: Rage about Treadmill Troubles & Family Dynamics
• [41:13–49:44] – Tangents: Smart House alarms, fire scares, and carving turkeys (…literally)
• [49:44–54:57] – Self-care chatter: rage showers, throwing ice, hair-washing routines, and head lice
• [58:26–66:17] – Cursing: Authenticity, research, and personal stories about cussing
• [66:17–end] – Emotional resets, quirky habits, and closing thoughts

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Making Peace with Plans that Go Awry ([03:16–08:55])

• Amy and Kat recount technical mishaps (dead laptops, lost recordings) caused by the ice storm and how this forced them to improvise.
• Emphasis on "meeting yourself where you are"—not fighting reality when things just don’t go as planned.
• Being vulnerable about feeling like failures, but ultimately reframing lost work as a chance to do better.
  • Amy: "I went from, ‘oh, shoot, I’m gonna cry’ to ‘oh no duh, this episode needs to be redone with proper microphones…’" ([08:06])

2. Handling Criticism with Humor ([08:55–12:20])

• Amy reads a salty listener email (from "MJ") complaining about shallow topics and "obnoxious giggling."
• Amy and Kat riff on the now-viral phrase:
  • "I know this isn’t an airport, and I don’t have to announce my departure, but I’m done." ([09:00])
• They reflect on letting negative feedback roll off and focusing on serving their loyal audience.

3. Emotional Resilience in Tough Times ([12:20–15:23])

• Amy shares an emotional story about her son comforting her when she cried amid the storm:
  • "…my son was over on the couch…he got up and put his arm around me…he said, ‘Just so you know, I’m not leaving you.’" ([14:11])
• The duo encourages embracing whatever emotions show up, letting yourself "have the day you need to have."

4. Light-Hearted Banter and Existential Randomness ([16:57–24:45])

• "Questions That Don’t Come Up": Amy becomes fixated on whether people say "zero" or "O" when reciting numbers. The conversation veers into:
  • Childhood phone numbers,
  • Grocery loyalty card hacks,
  • The tension of being misunderstood mid-question.
• Kat: "I think you have to go based on how you feel. Zero might feel right here, and O might feel right there." ([21:16])

5. Everyday Frustration: Treadmill Trauma ([24:45–40:26])

• Kat’s saga: buying a treadmill, skipping delivery, lugging it home with family, then discovering assembly was far from simple—and the machine was rusted!
  • Expressed feelings: rage, regret for not buying professional setup, marital tension.
  • "We took the whole thing apart because we were trying to get to this one screw…" ([30:07])
• Amy relates with her own treadmill (cat drama included).
• Lessons: It’s okay to not do everything yourself; sometimes paying for help saves headaches.

6. Fire Alarm False Alarms: Paranoia and Family Roles ([41:13–49:44])

• Kat describes panic when her home alarm declares, "There’s smoke in the master bedroom" (there isn’t).
  • "That was a scary movie to me because the lady was, like, a robot that took over the house…" ([41:52])
• Dives into family roles—husbands, dads, carving turkeys, and the politics of DIY masculinity.
  • Hilarious tangent: "Tell us how manly [Patrick] is. Name all the ways—hurry!" ([46:48])

7. Everyday Self-Care: Showers, Resets, and Hair Washing ([49:44–54:01])

• Creative "rage resets"—from taking rage showers (blast music, cold rinse), to throwing ice cubes on concrete, to the cathartic power of fresh hair.
• Debate over how often to wash your hair and whether dry shampoo is a friend or foe.

8. Authenticity and Cursing: The Science and Stories of Swearing ([58:26–66:17])

• Research shows swearing is often a sign of authenticity and honesty.
  • "[Cursing] is an unfiltered and genuine expression of emotion, which can signal a person’s willingness to prioritize candor over politeness." (Kat, [62:20])
• Both hosts discuss their pasts as "good girls" and how cussing became part of their vocabulary during hard seasons.
  • Amy’s childhood: "…a jet flew over our house… I go, ‘What the f was that?’" ([60:45])
• Exploring healthy limits to swearing ("There’s an overuse at times…but for me, occasionally, it’s just very fitting." – Amy, [62:55])
• Code words for co-parenting tension ("pickle"), and how cussing relates to honesty, boundaries, and letting off steam.

9. Quickfire: Quirks & Coping Tools ([66:17–end])

• Rituals for emotional release: eating crunchy snacks, cursing, popping knuckles.
• Amy’s party trick: identifying the brand of ketchup blindfolded; Kat’s: popping her knuckles on command.
• Closing mantra: "Have the day you need to have."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On lost recordings:
  • “Right when the computer shut down and I knew we were going to lose the audio … I was like, okay, I’m gonna cry. … about two seconds after that, I was like, I think that this is what’s meant to be …” – Amy ([06:15])
• Listener feedback drama:
  • “I know this isn’t an airport, and I don’t have to announce my departure, but I’m done.” – MJ’s email, read by Amy ([09:00])
• On feeling your feelings:
  • "I cried three times, and I was like, that’s okay. I’m having the day that I need to have." – Amy ([12:27])
• Treadmill mayhem:
  • “If I have to take that thing back downstairs, I’d rather just light it on fire, but I actually can’t do that inside my house.” – Kat ([31:38])
• Fire alarm confusion:
  • “There’s smoke in the master bedroom. The alarm will sound, it will be very loud, just so you know.” – House alarm ([41:14])
• On cursing & authenticity:
  • “I just didn’t… which was good because on the radio we couldn’t cuss… today, me now, I probably would have been like oh ffffff…” – Amy ([58:56])
  • “Cursing is often described by researchers as an unfiltered and genuine expression of emotion…” – Kat ([62:20])

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Timestamps for Segment Highlights

• 03:16 – Hosts introduce the episode; recount tech mishaps due to ice storm
• 08:55 – Salty listener email; airport phrase
• 12:20 – Amy’s son comforts her as she cries by the fire
• 16:57 – The "zero" vs. "O" absurdity; grocery hacks
• 24:45 – The treadmill-from-hell saga
• 41:13 – Fire alarm “Smart House” panic; family role tangents
• 49:44 – Rage showers, throwing ice, self-care resets
• 58:26 – On becoming a "cuss person"; swearing and authenticity
• 66:17 – Final reset tips; idiosyncrasies; goodbyes

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Closing Thoughts & Takeaways

• Give yourself permission to feel what you feel—even if it’s rage over a treadmill or tears in front of your kid.
• Resilience sometimes looks like laughing about tech storms, channeling anger into ice-throwing, or letting your friends see the weird sides of you.
• Authenticity is key—even if it means dropping a well-placed F-bomb to be real with yourself (and your audience).
• The ongoing mantra: "Have the day you need to have."

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Transcript

[Kat]

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[Amy]

1, 2, 3.

[Kat]

Hey.

[Amy]

Alright, break it down.

[Kat]

If you ever have feelings and you just want some Maybe a cat got you covered like a number. Ladies, we just follow in the spirit.

[Amy]

Where it tell us from the real.

[Kat]

Stuff to the chill stuff and the in between. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop and feel things. This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat and we have something super fun in store for y' all today. We don't actually even know what episode you're gonna hear. Producer Houston is going to be picking it out, but Kat and I are here at the beginning giving a little intro and a little peek behind the curtain of. Well, we're dealing with an ice storm here in Nashville. I'm sure you have heard a lot of you live here, so you may be experiencing this. You're not even listening right now because you don't have Internet, you don't have power, you don't have anything. So.

[Kat]

Or maybe you're.

[Amy]

You're charging your phone in your car and you are listening because a lot of people have been warming up in their cars. I know that that was the warmest place for me for a while. I still don't have power. Kat, on the other hand, not to brag, but she has had power the entire time.

[Kat]

Yeah, our power never went out. But I. I did lose Internet for an hour, remember?

[Amy]

She did lose Internet for an hour. It was really. It was really difficult trying times. Yeah. So Kat and I literally just connected. She's at her house. I'm staying at a friend's house. I was roughing it at my house. Is no power for a few days. And then finally my son was like, mom, I'm cold. And the fun and games were over because we were having fun acting like we were living in the 1800s, you know, by candlelight, keeping warm by the fire. But the novelty wore off and so we left and Grabbed up the pets. And sometimes you'll hear us talk about Shannon in the podcast. We came to her house, shout out, Shannon saved the day. We got dog, cat, kid, kids were here. We're doing the dang thing. And Kat and I linked up on Zoom. Since my house studio is not an option and we recorded an entire episode, we're not going to give you the details of it because next week, when we're able to meet together in person or whenever my power comes back, we're going to do that episode again, and it's just going to be even better. But I felt like it was pretty good.

[Kat]

Yeah, but you've taught me whenever that happens, it's because it was supposed to happen. And that episode was not meant to be heard in that way.

[Amy]

Here's my thoughts on that. The content of the episode, I loved it was our connection was bad because even right now, we're on a different connection and there's no delay.

[Kat]

Oh, really?

[Amy]

No delay. Everything's fine. So we had that 45 minute long episode where I think the delay would have been painful.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

It would've been more like, hey, Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy. Pause, pause, pause. And I'm Kat.

[Kat]

Okay. So that episode could be better. And so we're gonna make it better.

[Amy]

We're gonna make it better. So we're gonna save the contents of that because Kat and I are honestly, we're out of time. I've got to cook dinner. Kat has to be somewhere. And Houston, our producer and editor, he is boarding a ship. Literally, she's going on a vacation, and he's trying to get some stuff done. And the funny thing is, is Kat and I have been working, like, for about two weeks to get ahead because we knew Houston was going on vacation and we were so on to deliver. And on Monday, we were going to send him these files. And on Monday, what's kind of funny about Monday is I was like, okay, we're probably going to get power back tonight or maybe on Tuesday. And now here we are, Friday. My neighborhood is not thinking they're going to have power until next week, but we're making the most of it. It is what it is. And Houston, this part isn't really for our listeners, but we're leaving it in here. We're really sorry that we failed you. And to our listeners, I guess this is an example of right when the computer shut down and I knew we were going to lose the audio. That's what happened. The computer died. And then Zoom didn't record it anyway. I was like, okay, I'm gonna cry. Because we had just put all this work into it. Because even a Couch Talks episode, it wasn't just feeling things. It was Couch Talks too. And then about two seconds after that, I was like, I think that this is what's meant to be is we're supposed to air a best of, and Houston's gonna figure out what that's gonna be. I think Cad said something like, what'd you say when I called you? You were like, is the Lord trying to tell us something?

[Kat]

I said, is God trying to say something about what we just recorded? I don't know. But then you're like, I mean, no, I'm feeling good about this. I'm taking this as, like, this is what needs to happen. So you had a good attitude. I was kind of nervous of, like, oh, I don't want you to be mad at yourself because the computer died.

[Amy]

Well, yeah, because I should have plugged it in. Oh, are you reminding me of that?

[Kat]

It wasn't your computer, so it can't be.

[Amy]

To be fair, I was on Shannon's computer, and then I was like, shoot, where's the charger? And we had been recording for way longer than we thought we were going to, so I didn't. I didn't anticipate the battery dying. But now it all makes sense. And so the little nugget will leave you with is I went from, oh, shoot, I'm gonna cry to oh, no duh. This episode needs to be redone with proper microphones. Kat and I being in person, because I did like the content. And you know what I think we should do, though? Just a little gift before Houston throws in the best of. Should we read that nugget of an email that we had for Couch Talks? Let's just read it. Let's give people the one that we read. Huh? The first one.

[Kat]

Yeah, that. Okay. Yeah, that might. It might brighten your day as much as it brightened ours.

[Amy]

Yeah. And also it might explain why if after this, if you quit listening, we understand. You know, if you're like, these girls, I gotta get it together. So this is from a listener. We decided that she didn't ask to be anonymous, but we're not using her name. We're just going to use her initials. So this is from MJ I know this isn't an airport, and I don't have to announce my departure, but I'm done. You used to have important issues and interesting topics and guests. Today I had to hear stupid jokes About Snoop Dogg, what you eat at Chick Fil A and where Kat buys T shirts. And that in 2019, you got a waffle maker. Worst podcast. And the constant giggling is obnoxious. It's so sad that you get paid for this content. And then she signed her name.

[Kat]

The most wild part about that email is that she signed her full name and she did not ask to be anonymous, which I imagine she probably didn't think we were going to read her email.

[Amy]

But even if we did read it, she's not listening to hear it. So she'll never know.

[Kat]

She'll never know.

[Amy]

She'll never know. But that's a solid line. Like, next time I'm leaving somewhere, I'm going to be like, I know this isn't an airport, and I don't have to pronounce my departure, but I'm leaving. I'm out of here. Like, not even. Like, I'm leaving in a bad way. Like, she's like, I'm done. I'm not listening anymore. I'm just gonna. Like, tonight before I go to bed, maybe if we're watching something, I'm gonna get up from the couch and be.

[Kat]

Like, have you not seen people say that all over social media?

[Amy]

Oh, is that. Is this a thing?

[Kat]

Well, this is from my experience. Like, you'll see that people say that when somebody's like, I'm unfollowing you. And then people will be like, this isn't an airport. You don't need to announce your departure. Like, just unfollow them. You don't have to tell them about it. Like, nobody cares kind of thing. And so I do think it's interesting that she felt the need to send this email. Like, just stop listening to us. Like, that's okay.

[Amy]

Yeah. Like, if anybody after today has decided that they're going to stop listening, just go, yeah, just stop. Or, you know, per this email and how she describes the content we had, I mean, I might stop listening to, but surely we offered more than a Snoop Dogg joke. Our Chick Fil A orders where cat buys their T shirts, and the fact that in 2019, I got a waffle maker.

[Kat]

Wait. You know what is crazy is last week I sent you. Because I was editing the. The video. I sent you a text that was like, oh, my gosh, this episode's so good.

[Amy]

And this is the episode she's referring to where she's like, I'm out of here, y'.

[Kat]

All. Maybe that was couch talks. I don't know. But I just remember last week being like, oh, yeah, we're on it.

[Amy]

That's funny. Well, hopefully we offered more than that because I understand why MJ departed, if that's all we had to give her. And just know that. Coming up on the horizon, Kat has put together some helpful things that you can say when things are not going well to yourself, to others that are helpful. I really loved your list, and I know that it is meant to be heard. It's just not today. Yeah.

[Kat]

And this. You know what? You're teasing people right now, so you're leaving on a little cliffhanger. They're not going to be able to wait for that episode to come out. Yeah.

[Amy]

You got to listen, and then we'll tell our stories. We've got. I've got a question that doesn't come up. Cats feeling the day. We have a word of the day. We have all kinds of things. And hopefully by then will also just be in a better space and back to some normalcy, because, honestly, right now, everything's just a little out of whack. And I've really been living our mantra of have the day you need to have. Like, the other day, I cried three times, and I was like, that's okay. I'm crying. I'm having the day that I. I need to have. And it was really sweet. And one of the moments I was huddling up on my fireplace to stay warm, and the tears just started showing. It was, like, coming down my face, and it wasn't dramatic, but my son was over on the couch doing something else, and I didn't even know that he would notice. And he got up and he. And sat by the fireplaces and put his arm around me. And I was thinking he was maybe even going to go to a friend's house that night. It's the night we decided to leave my house, but I didn't know yet that we were going to leave, if that makes sense. Like, the order of events was like, I was upset about something else and the pressure of it all, I just started crying. But we were already making arrangements for him to maybe go somewhere at least. And then I would stay at home with the pets because the main reason why we were staying at home is the pets.

[Kat]

Cats.

[Amy]

It's hard to go places with a dog and a cat when people are kind to open their home to you and you're like, oh, where can I put the litter box? But he came over and he put his arm around me, and he was like, are you okay, Mom? And. And I just said, oh, yeah, thank you. Just processing a lot. I don't mind if my kids ever see me cry. But he. He said, just so you know, I'm not leaving you. Like, at that point, he's like, either we go somewhere together or we stay here together. Like, you're not taking me to a friend's house.

[Kat]

And I was like, that's making me tear up.

[Amy]

Yeah, it was a moment. So I was like, okay, buddy. Yeah. Let's go pack our bags. We're going to Shannon's. I'll go with you. Go grab the litter. So anyway, we are looking forward to some normalcy, and I don't know when that will come back, but we are having the days that we need to have.

[Kat]

Amen.

[Amy]

Feeling all the feelings. And so wherever you are, whether you're impacted directly by the storm that swept across part of the country or you're impacted by other things going on in our country, have the day you need to have. It's heavy out there right now for several reasons. So I wish we had a new episode to give you some comfort and entertainment, but hopefully whatever Best of Houston picks and pulls will be exactly the episode that you maybe missed and you need to hear because you never heard it. Or that maybe you need to hear again because you'll pick up an extra little nugget. Like a Chick Fil A nugget.

[Kat]

Not that that's your order. That when you go to Chick Fil A. We wouldn't want to talk about that.

[Amy]

Yeah, like, who would ever talk about their Chick Fil A order? That's so boring.

[Kat]

Lame.

[Amy]

Them. Who would get paid for that content? Anyway, we appreciate y' all so much. Thank you. Even UMJ if you're listening, although you're probably not, but we do appreciate you nonetheless. Nonetheless, nonetheless. All right, in the meantime, check out our old videos on Instagram and YouTube Feeling Things podcast, and we will be back whenever we can be back.

[Kat]

Sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amy]

You like that saying?

[Kat]

Yeah, we'll be back when we will be back. Have the day you need to have. Actually, this is where you could have used that line, I'll see you then, or I'll see you at another time.

[Amy]

What's that from?

[Kat]

I love you, man.

[Amy]

Oh, I love how you're teaching me.

[Kat]

All these new sayings.

[Amy]

Like, I'm sort of like, oh, yeah, I can't wait you to use this airport saying. And you're like, amy, it's online all the time. It's what people say when they're unfollowing someone. I'm like, oh, really? Okay.

[Kat]

Get it now.

[Amy]

Proper use of the departure. But, yeah, we'll. We'll close out with our thing officially, and then Houston can roll into whatever best bits he has best bit episode he has selected for your enjoyment today. All right, Buckle up and have the.

[Kat]

Day you need to have.

[Amy]

Bye.

[Kat]

Bye.

[Amy]

Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.

[Kat]

And I'm Kat.

[Amy]

And before we get to the feeling of the day, which is coming from you, Kat, I have a random question of the day, and it's this.

[Kat]

Questions that don't come up. Yeah, okay.

[Amy]

But I feel like, are we doing questions that don't come up, like, in the middle of something? Like, randomly? If it comes up. This is premeditated.

[Kat]

Okay, then. No, it's not.

[Amy]

Well, it's something because I was on a call before we were recording, and I had to say my credit card over the phone, and I have zeros in my credit card multiple. But I realized that depending on how the numbers are laid out, sometimes I say O and sometimes I say zero. I don't say zero every time, and I don't say oh every time. So my question is, when you have a zero, do you say zero or O? Like, for example, I can say my phone number. Growing up, it was 2820841. Oh, that's. Oh. But then sometimes if I was like, 2820841, and then maybe there was, like, four other numbers, it might be like, 096, you know, like, if it was like, okay, and what's the code to access your bedroom?

[Kat]

Yeah, you would say.

[Amy]

I would say zero.

[Kat]

Access your bedroom.

[Amy]

Like. Like, what's your extension? You know, like, that was. Because that was my home phone. Do you still remember your home phone number going up?

[Kat]

Yeah. Why do I feel like I shouldn't say it out loud? It doesn't even exist anymore.

[Amy]

Yeah, mine probably. I mean, I didn't give the area code, but I gave the 282 8.

[Kat]

I still use it for, like, certain things that it's connected to, like.

[Amy]

Oh, probably shouldn't do that.

[Kat]

Well, I mean, for, like, when you go to, like, a grocery store and you type it in to get the.

[Amy]

Points, you know, at the grocery store, you can always do whatever area code you live in and do 867-530-9. Oh, hey. Oh, in the song, they go 867-530-9.

[Kat]

And get the points.

[Amy]

It works for me.

[Kat]

So at a grocery store, you've never actually created an account. You just.

[Amy]

Sometimes I have, but then some. If I don't Yes, I will do the area code of where I am. So In Nashville, we're 615. And then you just type in 867-5309, and then all the discounts come up.

[Kat]

No way.

[Amy]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, so I don't know. I know it's a very random question, but it just got me thinking. Like, that's a great question. In my credit card number, I have multiple zeros. And sometimes I say zero, and sometimes I say, oh, it just has to be the placement and how it feels rolling off the tongue.

[Kat]

So you're asking, do I say, yeah.

[Amy]

Do you ever say oh or zero?

[Kat]

I don't know, because I don't pay attention that. But I'm assuming because when you said the phone number, I'm like, yeah. If you said zero, say that phone.

[Amy]

Number and say 028-20841 or 282-0841.

[Kat]

Oh, it sounds normal, too.

[Amy]

I wouldn't do that. And it's not like we call it Coke Zero. I don't say Coke O. I mean, obviously Coke Zero. Okay, They've told us. But, I mean, zeros are zeros. So why do I say, oh?

[Kat]

It's an abbreviation.

[Amy]

I know, but why? It just was weird. Like, in the. In the flow of it, I didn't say consistently zero. Every time. It was like, oh, in the delivery.

[Kat]

I'm finally hearing what you're saying.

[Amy]

Let's say my credit card number has five zeros. Am I not being clear this entire time? Me? I'm not saying. I'm saying not. You understanding at me not being clear in my delivery, like, my credit card number has multiple zeros, but say it's 4, 2 5, 0. I wouldn't say 4, 2, 5, 0. I say 4,250. And then if it's like 0680, I might say that. But then there's. There's another zero in there.

[Kat]

I say, oh, you say both is what you're saying.

[Amy]

I say both, okay. In the combination of saying, you know, I love how.

[Kat]

What's the right word here?

[Amy]

Passionate.

[Kat]

How passionate you are becoming over this. I thought you were saying I feel like a weirdo. No, I thought you were saying, like, sometimes, like, with my phone number, I say oh, but with my credit card, I say zero. You're saying I. I mix and mingle.

[Amy]

I mix and mingle in the same delivery.

[Kat]

I think that's okay.

[Amy]

I know.

[Kat]

Okay, thank you. Thank you.

[Amy]

That's all I know. I don't know. I guess I was just Curious if I'm the only person on the planet that does this.

[Kat]

I don't think you are.

[Amy]

Okay. Cryo cat does it.

[Kat]

Okay. Everybody in this room does.

[Amy]

So you mix and mingle in the same flow.

[Kat]

I think it's like, yeah, it's a. You have to go based on how you feel. And like a zero. Might feel right here and oh. Might feel right here.

[Amy]

0 and oh. This is the only one we do it for. We don't do it for.

[Kat]

Well, what other numbers have abbreviations?

[Amy]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. You're like, Ocho, tres. Okay. No, I guess they don't. We don't. Yeah.

[Kat]

So I think you're normal. Oh.

[Amy]

Oh, Yeah, I would say oh, oh. Yeah, I would say, oh, oh. I would probably say oh, oh. I wouldn't go zero, zero, but I might. But I might say zero. Oh, okay. Four, three, two.

[Kat]

But I also think if I'm. If I'm reading something off to somebody, I like to be very clear because I think sometimes when I speak, I don't speak clearly. So I probably would say zero if I'm reading something. Zero, zero, four three kind of thing.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But if I'm just somebody's like, what's your phone number? I'll probably would be like, 430-420-0.

[Amy]

Right. You know, I know. I'm with you. I'm very clear. That's why it was weird to me, because I noticed that I was like, 960420, and it was like, zero, and then, oh, and I'm like, why did I just switch that?

[Kat]

There's nothing.

[Amy]

Probably should have described it just like that in the very beginning.

[Kat]

Yeah, you're. I think you're normal. And if you weren't normal, that would be such a fun quirk that we would just love about you.

[Amy]

You probably wouldn't even really notice it.

[Kat]

And I bet that person didn't notice that you did that.

[Amy]

Yeah, well, because then, I mean, all credit cards are numbers. But she might be like, oh, oh, it's not a number because O is a letter.

[Kat]

Yeah, I think that she gets that. That's the abbreviation for zero, though. I know.

[Amy]

Probably.

[Kat]

What if she said that it was on a number? I don't. I can't input that, ma'.

[Amy]

Am. Yeah, and I would be like, you know, it's the.

[Kat]

What do you abbreviations for zero?

[Amy]

It's. This is short talk. Or like, shorthand. My mom was able to write shorthand. I never.

[Kat]

What does that mean?

[Amy]

It's a. Abbreviated writing.

[Kat]

Don't you just do that anyway when you're taking notes?

[Amy]

No, this is like a special language.

[Kat]

Oh.

[Amy]

Well, I don't know if they were taught it like a. My mom was a secretary back when it was called secretary at places, and then later an administrative assistant, but I think it was a taught thing. Like, you learned shorthand? Oh, sort of. Like, who keeps notes in the courtroom? You know, the clerk. No, topography.

[Kat]

But the topography they're taking, they're not notes. They're taking minutes.

[Amy]

The minute. The minute taker. I know, but they're. If you've ever noticed, their keyboard is not a normal keyboard. I don't think. I believe it's like a shorthand typewriter. So it's.

[Kat]

So how. The letters. It has like.

[Amy]

Yes. You're typing so quickly to keep up with everything that's being said.

[Kat]

I didn't know that.

[Amy]

So, yeah, a stenographer. A court reporter.

[Kat]

That's what it's called. Or that's what her machine's called.

[Amy]

It's. The person is the stenographer, and the machine is the stenographer.

[Kat]

It's sonography.

[Amy]

Typewriter. Oh, shorthand. Typewriter. It just popped in my head. Obviously.

[Kat]

Cool.

[Amy]

We didn't plan talking about this. Things. Yeah, things. Random things we never thought we'd talk about. But let's get into the feeling of the day, since none of this has anything to do with feelings.

[Kat]

Yeah. You're feeling passionate. Would you say that? Or were you feeling insecure about that?

[Amy]

I think I more so was feeling insecure that I was not being clear in what I was saying. It sort of threw me because you did a good job faking like you knew what I was talking about. And then all of a sudden, because I thought you were tracking with me, and then you go, oh, I get what you're saying. So then I got defensive, and I'm like, damn. You go.

[Kat]

You go.

[Amy]

You're not weird. I go, yeah. Even though I only brought it up because I thought I was weird, I know I'm not weird. But a minute. Like a minute before, I had brought it up because I felt like maybe I was being weird.

[Kat]

So do you feel better?

[Amy]

Yeah, I feel better.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I don't know if we have any clarity, but those listening out there right now, if you say oh or zero, you are not alone.

[Kat]

That's what this podcast is all about. Okay, I'm not feeling insecure. Passion. There might be some passion in there, but I'm. I'm feeling a low level of enragement of rage.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Because I don't know if I've shared with you on here before recently that we have purchased.

[Amy]

I don't know if I have shared with you before recently on this here podcast.

[Kat]

Ever in this time, we've purchased a treadmill and breaking news.

[Amy]

Yeah, this is breaking news.

[Kat]

My. My iPad's talking to me. So we purchased the treadmill. It was a big deal. We shopped around. We tested some out. I did some research. Great. Purchase it. We go to the store. You know what? I'm going to say the store, because it deserves to be mentioned, like, in.

[Amy]

A negative or positive way.

[Kat]

You can decide.

[Amy]

Well, I need to know the location before you do, because I don't know if I have an affiliation with them at all in any way, shape, or form.

[Kat]

So it's a common store that people buy goods at. Goods for sporting goods.

[Amy]

Sure.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

We'll keep it at that.

[Kat]

I won't even blame the store. I think they wouldn't have known this.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I will say that. Well, part of it is the store associate. Associate. The store wouldn't have known the actual problem. That would not be their fault.

[Amy]

Perfect. So good thing we didn't say their name. And we're not going to.

[Kat]

Yeah. Why would I ever do that? Yeah. So we go to the store. The store associate, which I'm like, duh. Katherine. This probably is just like a college student who's working on the weekends to make minimum wage. He probably doesn't really care. That's judgment. But I will say Patrick worked at this store at one point in his life, and that's what he said. He did. So I'm like, asking questions. Once we were gonna buy it, he was like, do you want to get the assembly and delivery? I said, well, how much is that? He said, 200.

[Amy]

Oh, I know what you thought. Right away, you were like, what? Why would I pay someone to put it together when I can do it myself?

[Kat]

Literally. Yeah. I said, well, could we do it ourselves? And he said, well, I did it myself in 45 minutes. So, yeah. And I was like, then, no, we'll just take it with us today. He said, what kind of car do you drive? I told him. He said, oh, I'll be fine. It'll fit in there. Long story short, it did not fit. Half of it didn't even fit in my car. So we had to come back the next day, get my dad's truck, put it there, take it to our house, carry it up the stairs, which I had to enlist family members to come to our house to do this. I thought somebody was going to die.

[Amy]

Yeah. Treadmills are heavy.

[Kat]

I didn't know that. Oh, why did I not know that? Why did I not think that?

[Amy]

Probably because the only previous your prior experience to a quote unquote treadmill before this. But it's one of those walking pads from Amazon. Is that why?

[Kat]

Yeah. And I could carry that upstairs by myself.

[Amy]

Right. It's very portable.

[Kat]

Yes. So I was so scared during this process. And in the middle of the.

[Amy]

Yeah, like, I'm shocked. Like, we've had to pay. Whenever I've had to relocate my treadmill. We've had to pay the company to come move it because I've been so.

[Kat]

Should have done that.

[Amy]

Terrified.

[Kat]

Should have done that.

[Amy]

But. But you could do it yourself.

[Kat]

Yeah. And I have to admit, I did not help at all to carry that up the stairs. And I probably would have died if I was part of that process. We finally get it in there. Patrick and I set it up and honestly didn't see. It was a little frustrating setting up, but it wasn't that bad. Oh, before this, the sales associate said, do you want to buy a mat for this treadmill? I said, do we need one? We're just putting it on carpet. He said, no, it's really more for hardwood floors. So you don't mess up your hardwood flooring. We also don't care about this carpet anyway because we're. Eventually we want to rip it up. So he's like, oh, then you don't need the mat. And I was like, great, save more money. Don't pay for the assembly, don't pay for the shipping, don't pay for the mat. So we get it up there, put it together, it doesn't work. And I'm like, oh, my God. So I'm like, googling stuff, whatever, blah, blah. Then I open up the manual, and on the first page it says before you start, like, warning things to know. The first thing is, do not assemble this and use it on carpet.

[Amy]

So you need the mat.

[Kat]

Yeah. And it probably could have, like, I don't know, done something bad, Started a fire. Under. Killed you. Yes. Yeah, probably. So anyway, we had to get the mat, then we had to get ply. Weeks have gone by. We've updated our treadmill experience.

[Amy]

Yeah. I don't know all of this saga, but I do know when you were. You bought the treadmill. And I feel like that was a really long time ago.

[Kat]

Month, probably.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Probably can't return it at this point. Well, I'm gonna speed the story up because this is far too long.

[Amy]

If someone is currently on the treadmill right now, you have jogged a couple miles.

[Kat]

Literally.

[Amy]

They're like.

[Kat]

And anyway, so we had to take the treadmill completely apart, which did cause a little bit of marital discord, and take it apart to fix the thing. Oh, my God. We took the whole thing apart because we were trying to get to this one screw. And then once we took the whole thing apart, Patrick realized we could have just lifted the child up to access that crew and we screw. And we didn't need to take the whole thing apart.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So we. Anyway, we did that. Then we lifted it up. Wouldn't you know, the inside the motor of the treadmill is completely rusted.

[Amy]

How? You don't know.

[Kat]

It's a mystery. So now we have to undo it again and take it down the stairs.

[Amy]

The whole thing. Can't the they come pick it up? You sold me a rusty treadmill, so I'm gonna need.

[Kat]

What did I do to deserve this? That's what I want to know. I just wanted to be healthy. I just wanted to move my body a little bit.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Well, I've been walking outside now. And so anyway, it's about to get.

[Amy]

To be the winter months.

[Kat]

Like, yeah, I did email them to and sent them pictures because they had sent me, like, this is probably what it is. Just look at this and fix it. And I'm like, well, this is rusted. So my hope is that they're like, oh, no, we'll send somebody there with a new piece and they'll fix it. Because if I have to take that thing back downstairs, I'd rather just light it on fire, but I actually can't do that inside my house.

[Amy]

No, that's not gonna happen. Okay. Our hope is gonna be that they're going to come and fix it, or if it has to be removed, that they will come and haul it away, like, on the house, because surely it needs to be swapped out. And that shouldn't be on you to. To have to handle that.

[Kat]

Just a girl. And maybe I should pretend like I'm. I'm a single woman living in that home and I not strong enough or something. So they have to like, sir, I have no family here. Nobody can help me do this.

[Amy]

Yeah, my parents don't live down the street, and that is not my husband right here.

[Kat]

My brother doesn't live down the street.

[Amy]

And they're like, how did you get up here? Oh, you know, just, you know, one.

[Kat]

Step at a time.

[Amy]

Treadmill. I have my own Issues. But the treadmill works fine. My. My cat has claimed it as sort of her spot perch. And so I get on it, and sometimes she's cool with it, but other times she swats at me and. Yeah. And, like, tries to bite me. And if I'm walking with my arm, she'll like. And, like, she does not want me to be on there. And then I have a little. I'll have to buy you one of these. You can get a little clear tray and a little stand for your computer, and it'll prop up and you can walk and work. But when I have the tray up there, there's no room for her, and she freaks out. And I'm like, maggie, go lay somewhere else. It's not that big of a deal.

[Kat]

Wait, this is actually really ironic since she's on a diet.

[Amy]

I know. She just sits on the ground. My favorite spot is the treadmill.

[Kat]

Everybody in this family will not be exercising.

[Amy]

Yes. She's like, if you're. Yes. Because I'm currently not feeding her in her bowl. We have to loose feed her where you just hide food around the room. And she has to hunt for it. She has to, like, work for her food and find it. But I feel bad, so I'll hide it, and then I take her to it. And I'm like, this is where I put it. And I'm like, here you go.

[Kat]

Just. So do you put, like, one little piece?

[Amy]

No, I put, like.

[Kat]

Or is it like a pile of.

[Amy]

A little pile and not in a bowl? Not in a bowl. I just lose.

[Kat]

Did she just, like, put her food on the floor?

[Amy]

No, she can't eat that way anymore. She has to go. She has to, like, have an ounce here, an ounce there, here. And I was just like, find it and walk around. And I'm. I am apparently supposed to exercise with her, and I'm like, how do you exercise a cat? Whether you're hosting the watch party, bringing the snacks, or just here for the halftime show and commercials, DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of Super Bowl 60, makes Super Bowl Sunday even more fun. New to betting. No stats, no stress. Just pick the team that you're cheering for or a player that everyone's buzzing about and place your first bet. Simple as that. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app and use code FEELING. New customers can turn five bucks into $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins. With Code Feeling in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours.

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[Kat]

How do you exercise a cat?

[Amy]

I mean, you put like a ribbon and they bounce around, but I mean.

[Kat]

Yeah. Why aren't you doing that?

[Amy]

Well, I. I have to start. Cara always eats her ch. Her little toys that we get her. Cara eats it. So then on the dog. I'm not going to buy another one. Car is probably overweight too.

[Kat]

You walk Cara all the time.

[Amy]

I know, but I overfeed my pets.

[Kat]

Wait, I have a question. Why? Because I feel knowing nothing about animals. Never had a cat, so take this with a grain of salt. Why can't you just limit her food intake? Why do you have to hide it?

[Amy]

This is what the vet told me to do. So she has to hunt for it so she's not eating it. So that way if you have it in the bowl, like she's just gonna eat it all right there. And then if it's spread out, she's like Spacing out her food and just. I don't know, Cat.

[Kat]

Okay, so the real issue is that she's sedentary.

[Amy]

The vet. The vet said this is the heaviest she has weighed, and you need to cut back on her feet.

[Kat]

What's the oldest that she has ever been? Of course it's the heaviest. We.

[Amy]

No, I think at some point, like, cats just, like, should maintain.

[Kat]

Maybe I'm feeling defensive. I'm like, yeah, I'm the heaviest I've ever been because I'm 35. Yeah. And I'm not 12 anymore.

[Amy]

Yeah. Okay. Anyway, Maggie, she parks. Parks it on my treadmill. And yes, it is ironic because she does need to work out, but because you have been through such a difficult time with your treadmill, once it's set up, I will gift you the clear tray and the computer.

[Kat]

That's really nice. And what I hear in that is that you believe that this will be resolved.

[Amy]

It will. It will be.

[Kat]

And what I have learned is pay for the delivery and assembly.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

You can't do everything yourself. Do I deserve this? I think I do, because I. I.

[Amy]

Feel like you have other things going on that are, like, magnifying, like, the rage you feel towards the treadmill, and it makes me wonder.

[Kat]

It's not about the treadmill.

[Amy]

It may not be. Have you thought about that?

[Kat]

It's 100% not about the treadmill.

[Amy]

Oh, okay.

[Kat]

See, I really probably wouldn't be this upset. It's just. It's like something. I'd rather hyper focus on that than other things in my life that are out of my control. Yeah.

[Amy]

You're like, if I have to do that, I'm a set on fire, but.

[Kat]

I'm just going to burn my house down.

[Amy]

But I can't do that. If y' all see Cat on the news.

[Kat]

No, you might. Fire alarm. Speaking of. Okay, so yesterday, as we're working on the treadmill, our fire alarm goes off. But it was not an alarm. It was a woman's voice.

[Amy]

And it sang.

[Kat]

She said, there's smoke in the master bedroom. The alarm is about to sound. It will be very loud, just so you know.

[Amy]

And then.

[Kat]

And then it was quiet. And I go, patrick, because am I.

[Amy]

Am I.

[Kat]

My initial thought I.

[Amy]

You're hallucinating.

[Kat]

Oh, my gosh. I had walked. I wasn't with him because we. Okay, we just found the rest. I walked in the bathroom, take my contacts out, and I started hearing the woman's voice. And then I yelled out, patrick, Patrick. And I, like, grabbed my shoes, and I was about to, like, run outside because I thought my house was burning down. Also, I was like, who was that? It reminded me of Smart House.

[Amy]

I don't know.

[Kat]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Disney Channel original movie. And that was a scary movie to me because the lady was, like, a robot that, like, took care of the house, but she then started taking over the house. And I'll. In my head, I'm like, somebody's invaded our house. We're not gonna. They're gonna lock the doors. Like, I don't. I freaked out. And then the alarm never sounded. But then there was no smoke. So then Patrick was like, it's fine. And then 10 minutes go by, she does it again. There's smoke in the master bedroom. The alarm will sound. It's going to be very loud. Just so you know.

[Amy]

Was she glitching?

[Kat]

She said it clearly.

[Amy]

Well, I know, but, like, glitch. Like, was her system. Like, what was making her fire off? Like, was there smoke in the master bedroom?

[Kat]

No. And so then. Well, then I went and blew.

[Amy]

I had a candle by a glitch.

[Kat]

Oh, I had a candle on downstairs. So I went and blew the candle out. I'm like, surely that's not it. And then 30 minutes later, it did it again. This time, the alarm went off. So I opened the door, and I'm like, I'm out of the house. And Patrick's, like, in the bedroom looking for smoke. I'm like, get out. And then I called my dad.

[Amy]

And then.

[Kat]

Well, I texted him. He said that those alarms are norm. My first concern was, why is she talking like, this should just be a sound. And he said, new alarms. Fire alarms talk. Interesting. Never heard that before. Ever? Anybody in this room? Never. So if that happens to you one day, just know it can be normal. It's not a person. And then he said to vacuum it, because sometimes dust gets in there. And he said, do that. And if it doesn't work, it could be a spider. Sometimes spiders crawl into them. So if it still doesn't, the vacuuming doesn't help, then maybe it's a spider and just to take it down. And I said, well, what if there really is a smoke somewhere? Like, in the attic and there's smoke somewhere, and then. And the night it's going to turn into a fire, and then we are dead.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

And he said, that would have already been a fire by now. Right?

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And then he said, if you need me to come over, I will, but I don't think. I think Patrick wanted to take care of it. Himself.

[Amy]

He probably did. And you're like, it's cool. I already texted my dad.

[Kat]

No. I said, is it a. Does that make you feel weird that I'm texting my dad? And he said, no, I don't really know what's going on either, but you don't need him to come over here at 9pm I can take the fire just so he can take it off the wall. I can do that.

[Amy]

Yeah. That reminds me of one time, my ex husband. Early in our marriage, my dad was going to carve the turkey, but we were hosting and that didn't go over well. I mean, he didn't say anything to him, but he got upset and he was like, this was supposed to. This is our Thanksgiving. I'm supposed to carve the turkey.

[Kat]

So your dad carved it.

[Amy]

I think my dad started working on the turkey and my ex husband was like, that's my turkey. Well, he didn't, he didn't say anything. It was more internal. And then later he expressed to me that he was upset because it was his turkey.

[Kat]

Who. Did he cook the turkey?

[Amy]

Yeah, I mean, I think we did it all together. I, I honestly, this was years ago. I mean, I was married 17 years and that was the early part of our marriage. So we're going back to like it could have been around 2007, 2008 that this happened. So I don't remember every detail, but it just made me think of like a son in law father relationship and how it's like newly married, like, this is my house. You're her dad, but I'm her husband and I'm gonna protect her and carve her turkey. That sounds interesting. Sounds like, I mean, something else have to be sexual. It still sounded it, it doesn't have to be, but it sounded dirty. So to be clear, like Ben is actually talking about a turkey.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Like actual turkey. But it was, it's an interesting thing. Like some of that is just conditioning as men or wanting to feel a certain way in your home, you know?

[Kat]

But I feel like your ex husband was way more. And I could be wrong, but appeared to me to be way more like handy and traditionally masculine in that way than my husband. Like, Like Patrick doesn't know how to carve a turkey. Wait. Oh my gosh. Stop. This is not supposed to be. Why are you laughing?

[Amy]

Poor Patrick.

[Kat]

I don't mean like that. I love my husband. Poor Patrick.

[Amy]

Oh my gosh. He doesn't listen. Right.

[Kat]

Okay. I don't mean it like. I wanted to say it. He's so Masculine. But I. He can't. Oh, he knows how to carve a turkey. That's what he does. Tell us.

[Amy]

Tell us how manly he is.

[Kat]

Like, meant. Like, name all the ways.

[Amy]

Hurry, hurry. Name him. Start saying them. Sorry. So he's like. So he loves sports. He loves sports. He loves sports.

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Go.

[Amy]

He. He. He loves gambling. He loves sports betting.

[Kat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Wait, stop it. I don't think that would even upset him, because I think he knows what I mean. Like, he can't. Like, he's. He can't. He wasn't handy.

[Amy]

He, like, he manages money well.

[Kat]

Does he? I hope he does.

[Amy]

He's an accountant.

[Kat]

Crying.

[Amy]

I didn't mean it like, I don't know. We're just giving you our time.

[Kat]

Okay. Okay.

[Amy]

But look, hey, guess what?

[Kat]

I love you, and you're perfect for me. What I meant was, I feel like Ben would do probably more like building of things.

[Amy]

Like, my dad definitely did. Not Ben. I mean, I think, you know, he. He could be handy. And also, he was gone a lot, like, because he was in the military, so I think yes. Could he do certain things on a plane? Like, could he fly an airplane? I felt like that was always. Yeah, that's pretty. Office of women. Flight airplanes is not, like, just a man thing, but I think I had to learn how to figure out things on my own. I didn't do. I hired out.

[Kat]

So did you call your dad?

[Amy]

Yeah, my dad would do a lot, and I don't know if that really bothered Ben, to be honest. We didn't really talk about it, but things would just get done, or I would hire people, and then I think that was sort of our routine. So even when Ben would come back from deployment, I'm like, oh, I already have my handyman, who is not threatening. Like, he couldn't hear. Well, I had this one handyman, and I think he was like, maybe. You know how you're sort of legally blind?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Right, right. But, like, you can see.

[Kat]

It's like a. Yeah, I'm legally blind, but I can see, like, shapes and blobs.

[Amy]

Yeah. So anyway, can I say what I meant by that?

[Kat]

Just I feel like I need to get this out.

[Amy]

Well, first of all, Patrick's not gonna listen.

[Kat]

I know, but I wouldn't want that in the ether anyway.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

I meant, like, traditionally masculine in the sense that, like, the traditional roles where we kind of bend the. Like, I can probably hang a picture frame better than he can kind of thing.

[Amy]

Wow.

[Kat]

Is that not. What is that? Okay, I'm just kidding. So a lot of women get mad.

[Amy]

I think my sister's the same way. Her husb husband can design and help build a house, but my sister is going to hang the picture better.

[Kat]

Yeah. I'm just saying he doesn't get mad about that. He would never get mad at the. I can't say this, but I wouldn't expect him to care who cuts the turkey at Thanksgiving because he just is like, oh, your dad would probably do a better job at that so he can do it kind of thing. Does that make.

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

I love my husband.

[Amy]

We know you do. It was just funny.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I thought. And laughter is good for the soul. Like we all got a good laugh. And I bet you feel better because earlier you were like raging.

[Kat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you.

[Amy]

Yeah. I have other ways to reset your day. I know laughter, that happens organically. You can't really force that. But if you ever need to reset your day again, like if you're feeling ragey, you can take a rage shower.

[Kat]

What's that?

[Amy]

So you get in the shower and you blast music. No, you can have it hot, but you just blast music and you rage it all out. Like just. Just jam out in the shower and sing and blast it and feel good. And then yes, at the end, you can do like a 30 second to one minute like cold spurt at the end. But in it you picture with the water, like all the rage running down the drain. It's a rain shower.

[Kat]

I can't picture my. Well, first of all, where am I getting. I guess I need like a boombox in the bathroom.

[Amy]

You're a speaker, your phone, but your.

[Kat]

Phone'S not that loud.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

If I'm raging, I want the music to be louder than I am. Okay.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Also you mentioned going and throwing ice cubes earlier when I was texting you.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah. That's something that I got from my therapist a while back or maybe even one of my kids therapists, one of our many therapists over the years. But it was. You take ice cubes and then you just throw them down as hard as you can onto your driveway or your back porch or somewhere where there can.

[Kat]

Really safer than Rob Hawks a cold shower. I really just can't.

[Amy]

The cold thing is at the end, you don't have to do that. You can take a normal raid shower and it's just you're washing the bad mood away.

[Kat]

Yeah, a shower really does do wonders.

[Amy]

I journaled this morning that washing hair.

[Kat]

I thought you were gonna say journal in the shower this morning.

[Amy]

With my waterproof journal and my waterproof speaker. No, I. I washed my hair this morning and then journaled after it right before I had a few minutes before I had to leave for work. And I was like, I'm going to use this few minutes to journal because I'm trying to do my morning pages again. And I. What is it about fresh hair? It changes everything.

[Kat]

Do you like to wash your hair in the morning or at night?

[Amy]

In the morning because it's fresh.

[Kat]

So I. Okay. For the look of your hair, Right?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So I totally agree. There is something, like recently, last couple months, because I've either gone on a walk at night or worked out at night or something that has had me take a shower at night. The best. Getting ready for bed and going to sleep feeling with wet hair and feeling like totally clean. I think for my mental health that is better. But for like, my hair looking good. Yeah. I want to, like, wash it right before.

[Amy]

Well, I can't wash my hair every day now. I'll take showers before bed, but I will put a shower cap.

[Kat]

Wash your hair every day?

[Amy]

Yeah. But I don't want to. Yeah, that would take. No, no, no, no. That would take so much time to wash my hair every single day, my friend, because my hair doesn't air dry.

[Kat]

Did you do it when you were younger? No, I washed my hair every single day growing up. Is that not crazy?

[Amy]

Well, does your hair air dry normalish?

[Kat]

You can tell when it's air dry. You'd probably be like, oh, it's an air dry day.

[Amy]

Okay. Well, some people just naturally can do that. Like, my friend Luke married a girl and she showers and washes her hair every single night and like crawls in bed, but then wakes up and her hair is like, perfect.

[Kat]

Oh, you know what I mean? That's not me.

[Amy]

She's lucky. But every night she cannot, no matter what time it is where they are, she will be taking a shower.

[Kat]

I feel like that's a norm. Like a new thing. Like growing up, I feel like everybody was washing their hair every day. And then all of a sudden people are like, it's not good for you. Or like, you don't have to live this way.

[Amy]

Well, I sort of trained my hair to go many, many days without washing because we heard that's what was good for you. And then now I'm hearing the opposite. Yeah. Do you see how you see on Tick Tock that now that you told me.

[Kat]

Oh, I thought your hair girl told you not to use dry shampoo or something.

[Amy]

Oh, That's a hair. Yeah. That was a hairstylist that. Yes, I've gone to that said that. And also I recently saw on Tick Tock, wash your hair more. Wash your hair more.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because of the dirt and stuff in our head that we thought, if you.

[Kat]

Think about it, it's kind of gross.

[Amy]

Yes. We thought like, it was doing more damage, washing it too much. But actually keeping that clean is keeping the roots healthier and gonna give you stronger, better hair. I don't know. And like, I'm sure someone will counter that with something else. It was just a something I saw in passing, but whoever told it to me on Tick Tock, I trusted her.

[Kat]

Did you get ever get lice as a kid?

[Amy]

No. Stevenson just asked me that the other day because he's had lice once and we had to completely shave his head. And he's like, what if I get it again? And I said, well, it's been years.

[Kat]

But also for a boy, it's not a big deal. You can just shave your head and you don't have tons of hair stuff.

[Amy]

Lice person come to our house and she completely took it out and then she looked in my hair and to share his hair. Everybody in the house. And we were good to go.

[Kat]

I went to a elementary school at one point where we had like, weekly lice checks.

[Amy]

I think that's probably normal. Normal.

[Kat]

Like the nurse would come to our classrooms and they would check all of our hair.

[Amy]

Then what if someone had it? Would they be obvious?

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Like, hey, you over there.

[Kat]

She's coming with me.

[Amy]

Yeah, that's.

[Kat]

Found one.

[Amy]

They should. I do it under the radar.

[Kat]

I had lice, but it was in the summer. You never asked me if I did have lice, but I volunteered that information.

[Amy]

No, I want to know. Sorry. When you asked that question, I was like, that's so weird. Stevenson just asked me about that and I don't think I've ever had it.

[Kat]

But I had that thought because they say that lice likes clean hair. I think that might be an urban legend to make people feel better.

[Amy]

Oh, you're so clean.

[Kat]

Yeah, don't worry. It's because you're so clean.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But it is annoying for a girl because you have to get rid of everything. Like every hair bow, every headband, every scrunchie, every anything. You have to get rid of all of it.

[Amy]

Is that what you do?

[Kat]

Yeah, all my headbands. Never wore a headband again.

[Amy]

That's a lot.

[Kat]

Anyway, riveting.

[Amy]

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[Amy]

Now, I know you have something for us regarding, like, cursing, which I'm very curious about, because I used to not cuss ever. Ever.

[Kat]

When did you say your first curse word?

[Amy]

I mean, I didn't even think in cussing. Wait, like, I just didn't like cuss words didn't pop into my head. I was never a cuss person until a cursor. How do you say it?

[Kat]

You sound so sweet. I was never a cuss person. I didn't even think cuss words.

[Amy]

I just did it. Which was good because on the radio we couldn't cuss. And there were times where like one time I spilled my coffee all over the board and the mics were recording and I was recording something. It wasn't live, but this was way back in my early radio career, so like 2006 or something. And I said, oh, shoot. And like today, me now, I probably been like, oh, fffffffffff.

[Kat]

You know?

[Amy]

So like, that was me then and this is me now. And I think the only thing that switched was, I don't know, I went through a lot and then realized that sometimes saying a cuss word helped me feel better.

[Kat]

I vividly remember my first cuss word.

[Amy]

Okay, when was it?

[Kat]

Me and two of my friends walked to Publix. Don't ask me why. And then our walk back, we were like, okay, they were cussers. I was not. And so we all took turns saying different cuss words. I think they were trying to get me to be bad.

[Amy]

Join the club.

[Kat]

Yeah, yeah. And then it all went uphill from there because according to research, cussing is a sign of authenticity. And people who. Which goes along with authenticity, I think they mean like more authentic in their personality and who they are, but also are less likely to be liars, more likely to tell the truth.

[Amy]

Maybe I always wanted to be. And I wasn't in my authentic self for all those years because my parents tell me the story. I don't fully remember it, but when I was really little, they were hosting a dinner party and like a. A jet flew over our house. Like a fighter jet, you know? Have you ever had those fly over? They're so loud. And I looked up in the middle of it and I go, what the f was that? I mean, And I said it, and I was three or something.

[Kat]

Did you say F or the.

[Amy]

Yeah, I said the F word because my parents cussed. Yeah, like, my parents cussed. I obviously heard the F word. You said F. No, I said, well, I'm not gonna say it here.

[Kat]

Yeah, be authentic.

[Amy]

He used to get beep it. But I was like, what the was that? Oh, you're so bad. And then my parents loved retelling that story, of course, because they thought it was so cute that I did that.

[Kat]

And then.

[Amy]

And I was like, what? That's so crazy, because I just wasn't a cusser. And I don't know if I thought I was being bad, if I cussed or I didn't think I was better than anybody else, but I just didn't.

[Kat]

Did your sister. Did your sister?

[Amy]

I don't recall her cussing Now. My half sister and my brother, they cuss all the time. Like, with my dad, they'd be having conversations and they all be like, cuscus.

[Kat]

As an adult, would you curse around your mom?

[Amy]

No, I didn't cuss till recently. My mom passed away. Before I became a cusperson, she missed it. My mom quit cussing. Now she used to cuss. And then when she really found Jesus, like, her Jesus doesn't cuss. Well, she just changed a lot about her. It was like a dramatic shift, like. And I think how she spoke was part of that. I think there are plenty of Christians that cuss. That's not the point. I think for her, she had to make some changes. And that was one thing I saw, because I remember one time I missed the bus and she was not happy, and she slammed the dishwasher and said some cuss words. I mean, I remember my parents cussing, for sure. And I've cussed in front of my kids now.

[Kat]

Because you're being authentic. I want to read this because just to give the whole picture. It says multiple studies have shown a positive correlation between higher profanity use and honesty and authenticity, though the link is not absolute. Cursing is often described by researchers as an unfiltered and genuine expression of emotion, which can signal a person's willingness to prioritize candor over politeness. So what I hear in that is people that cuss are more willing to prioritize being themselves than being nice and polite. You know?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Which I appreciate.

[Amy]

I think that there's a. I mean, overuse of it at times that can be a bit much, but for me, occasionally, it's just very fitting.

[Kat]

Yeah, it's like nothing else works as well.

[Amy]

Nothing.

[Kat]

You know, nothing Nothing. Well, I'm proud of you that you're.

[Amy]

Now a cuss person. I'm now a cuss person. I know my mom doesn't know. My dad maybe knew a little bit.

[Kat]

Yeah. Because how recent was this transition?

[Amy]

I'm trying to think of when it really started. It had to have been 20. 20. 2021.

[Kat]

Was your ex a cuss person?

[Amy]

Not really. But we have become cussed people together.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Like, sometimes in our co parenting, we'll say it. One time, he called me out for like, oh, one time. Okay, how do I say this? Because he wasn't being. He was kind of, I need to keep this in my side of the street. My side of the street. You know how sometimes I want to make sure I tell it my side. I was being a little overly colorful with my language, but I was fired up about something, and he had to let me go. And I was like, oh, you know, now you're too good.

[Kat]

Oh, he was like, I'm hanging up.

[Amy]

Well, he was like, we just need to talk later. Like, I don't appreciate your energy. And I was like, what? Okay, next time you say a word or two, remind me of this, because.

[Kat]

You'Re not gonna appreciate it.

[Amy]

It was around then that we decided we have our code word, which is pickle, so. And we haven't had to use pickle in forever.

[Kat]

In retrospect.

[Amy]

In retrospect, I do think I was a little heightened.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Like, I was here, and I could have brought it down to Hiro and you could have here, but he didn't need to be all, you know, holier than thou on me.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Which. That's me, my defensive self talking. I thought I was gonna say on my side of the street. That was not my side of the street. I take it back. I would say all of this to his face. I think I was defensive in that moment of like, well, who do you think you are? And you say these words, too, so just wait. But now I don't feel that way. Like, she does it.

[Kat]

There's not gonna be revenge.

[Amy]

No. That was a while back.

[Kat]

Yeah. I think I remember this.

[Amy]

Yeah. I didn't do the best job of staying on my side of the street.

[Kat]

That was the thought that counts.

[Amy]

I know. But right before I told the story, I'm like, stay on my side of the street. And then I still called out his. Because I still was. I was still. I guess when I think back on it, I'm still perplexed by why he went that route, but that's okay. We all have those moments.

[Kat]

Is Alex a cuss person?

[Amy]

Occasionally, when it's right, I probably throw them in a little more than he does. But he's dabbled.

[Kat]

Well, good. That means that he's authentic.

[Amy]

He is.

[Kat]

And this isn't all encompassing, obviously. Like. Like you said, sometimes people overuse there is a too far. And also, if you don't cuss, it doesn't mean that you're a liar.

[Amy]

Yeah. At all.

[Kat]

But it is just interesting. I have a book called Swearing is Good for you. I've been meaning to read it for, like, 10 years.

[Amy]

Oh, you haven't even read it yet?

[Kat]

No, I did start it, but then it was just a lot about the research of cursing and language, and it just. I think I got the gist of.

[Amy]

It from the title, you know, so another reset. I know I shared the Raid shower, but another thing you can do for a reset is eat something cold and crunchy.

[Kat]

That would not do it for me. It wouldn't not rage if I'm overwhelmed. Yes.

[Amy]

Yeah. But let's just like, you're real mad and you get a carrot and you dip in some hunness hummus, and then you bite down like that. Wouldn't you be like, nothing chips? Do you think that would queso.

[Kat]

I don't think that. If I'm angry, I want to eat. I'm one of those people who. I have a lot of emotions. My appetite isn't there. What I'm hearing from you is that, like, the, like, crunch and the bite of it is gonna be like, oh, but I think I'd rather throw ice or the scream in the shower or something. Something.

[Amy]

What about chew ice? Do you chew ice?

[Kat]

No, but my husband is always chewing ice. If there is a cup somewhere with ice in it, he's gonna eat it.

[Amy]

That's so manly.

[Kat]

Masculine. Yeah.

[Amy]

What a man. What? Amen.

[Kat]

I hear that chewing ice also gives you gas, so.

[Amy]

Really?

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Why?

[Kat]

It's air. You're sucking down a lot of air.

[Amy]

Oh, well, that's a good deterrent.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I don't have a problem, my husband, with chewing ice. You don't tell him, like, hey, babe, that's gonna give you gas.

[Kat]

I think I've told him that before. And he's like, I can't stop. He loves it. He gets it from his dad. His dad's choose. Like, if you go to a restaurant and you get a drink with ice in it, they drink the drink, but then they eat all of the ice.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kat]

Yes. Yes. And like, if we go to, like, especially somewhere with good ice. Like, I'm pretty sure Chick Fil a has good ice. Oh, yeah. If we go there. Yeah. And Sonic, if we go there and we both get drinks and he finishes his ice and my ice is sitting there, he'll have my ice too. Yes. His dad just got a Sonic ice maker. Like a ice maker that makes.

[Amy]

Oh, pellets.

[Kat]

Yeah. So probably because he wants to eat the ice. That's something that, like, pregnant people are supposed to like, which I don't know why that is, but I do hear they do like it.

[Amy]

Probably it's the crunch.

[Kat]

Nothing sounds good.

[Amy]

Oh. Oh, yeah. And it, like, gives them maybe the cold.

[Kat]

Coldness feels good.

[Amy]

Do you pop your knuckles?

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Okay, Me too. And one of the things that my boyfriend really, really is holding on to, even though the Internet says otherwise, is that popping knuckles causes arthritis. And, like, he won't let his kids do it. And he's. Anytime I do it, he's like, stop. And I'm like, have you researched this? And he's like, yeah.

[Kat]

And what did he find?

[Amy]

Well, he finds that it gives arthritis. And I'm like, but I see here it doesn't. It's a myth. I feel so what do I believe? I don't know. But he's just so. He doesn't let it go. He's not budging on it. It's not.

[Kat]

Couple thoughts. I won pop my knuckles, like, 20 times a day. I love it. It feels so good to not do that. Would have. You'd have to have so much self control. I also love when my husband cracks my knuckles. I bet you do so. But also, I feel manly. So good at cracking my knuckles.

[Amy]

Tell us more.

[Kat]

Anyway, what I also was going to say is that if it really did cause arthritis, I think more of us. More of us would have it. Or sometimes I do think I have arthritis, but that's beside the point. It's not from cracking my knuckles. Can't be. But I just feel like there'd be more warnings about it. Like, I just feel like that's something we heard when we were little. And like, we grew out of it.

[Amy]

Believed it. Yeah.

[Kat]

Yeah. So if that really was. And I feel like at our physicals, our doctors would be like, and you're not cracking your knuckles. Right.

[Amy]

You know, do your wrists pop?

[Kat]

No.

[Amy]

That's my party trick. It'll do it every time.

[Kat]

You're like the lady at church that they do the bells. Yes.

[Amy]

I'm like, they both will pop. This one's not as loud, but it, it's still popping.

[Kat]

Wow. So if you were in Miss Congeniality, that's what you would do for your talent?

[Amy]

That would be my talent. No, my talent would. Okay, that could be one of my talents. My other one would be you can line up a lot of different ketchups and I will tell you which one is Heinz.

[Kat]

That's pretty, pretty sick.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So you have a backup talent.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

All right, well, that's cool. Let's. In there. However you're feeling today, if you need to take a beat, throw some ice cubes, take a raid shower, eat something crunchy, curse, curse.

[Kat]

Be a cuss person. Yeah.

[Amy]

Be a custom. Is that what I said? I think so, yeah. You know, just know that you're not alone. If that is you, we are with you and we hope you have the day you need to have. Bye.

[Kat]

Bye.

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[Kat]

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[Guest/Other Speaker]

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[Kat]

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[Kat]

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[Kat]

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