FEELING THINGS: Not My Chili, Not Gonna Stir It: Staying Out of Other People’s Drama

Summary

Podcast Summary: "FEELING THINGS: Not My Chili, Not Gonna Stir It – Staying Out of Other People’s Drama"

The Bobby Bones Show (Premiere Networks) – Feeling Things with Amy & Kat
Date: October 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lighthearted and candid episode of "Feeling Things," Amy and Kat dive deep into the art of minding your own business—specifically, why it's sometimes healthiest to stay out of other people's drama. From engagement ring window-shopping to generational quirks, TikTok cheating exposés, and traumatic grade school snack memories, the hosts explore how we process (and sometimes project) onto other people’s stories. A recurring theme: Not everything is your chili, and you don’t have to stir it.

Signature Quote:

“Not my circus, not my monkeys. Not my chili, I don’t want to stir it.” – Amy (16:54)

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Feelings & Forgetfulness

• Amy & Kat check in on their current emotions, with Kat feeling “so forgetful” and mildly ashamed but not sad (02:15).
• They riff on the anxiety and humor of forgetting little things—like jewelry and storylines—especially in professional and social situations.
  • Quote:

  “Because you’re like, what the is wrong with me?...In my line of work, if I’m sharing a story with somebody, I need to know where it’s going!” – Kat (02:42, 02:54)

2. Engagement Rings & Relationship Timelines

• Kat sends Amy a vintage ring email to spark conversation about engagement expectations after a year of dating, recalling her own engagement experience.
• Key Segments:
  • Discussing the timeline for talking engagement and the pressure at “our age” (05:53–08:23).
  • Laughing over wedding nail colors and public proposals (08:24–10:42).
  • The etiquette and fun of dropping ring hints vs. actually picking out the ring (10:46).
  • Quote:

  “Do you want to confess what you’ve been cooking up? And then, like, on Saturday, you’re like, hey, if you’re by my house, we can pop into Walton’s. And I’m like, so what if Alex is like, hey, what are you up to? And I’m like, oh, just looking at rings with Kat.” – Amy (07:26)

3. Projection, Stories We Tell, and Relationship Vigilantes

• Kat jokingly worries that if she forgets her wedding ring, strangers might assume she’s having an affair with Patrick (13:52–14:59).
• Discussion on TikTok “relationship vigilantes” who expose alleged cheaters, and whether it’s ever your business to intervene.
  • Notable Quote:

  “Not my circus, not my monkeys. Not my chili, I don’t want to stir it. Not my pot.” – Amy (16:54)

• The moral complications of getting involved in other people’s drama on social media.

4. Cheating Exposés and Public Shaming

• The humiliation of finding out about infidelity online is discussed, with Kat preferring to “let it run its course” rather than be hurt and publicly shamed (17:59).
• Quote:

  “If Patrick was to ever cheat on me somewhere and be talking to his mistress...I’ll eventually find out. Let it run its course. Because I don’t want to be humiliated publicly on top of probably already feeling shame.” – Kat (17:59)

• Realistic, mature advice: Stay out of it unless you’re directly involved.

5. Generational Labels, Syndromes, and Stereotypes

• Amy and Kat reflect on Millennial Syndrome signs via a checklist, poking fun at generational stereotypes and misunderstandings (27:53–32:14).
  • Symptoms addressed: Chronic anxiety, burnout, imposter syndrome, financial fatigue, authority skepticism, work/identity confusion, body stress.
  • Humor on whether they’d prefer to be a different generation and generational labeling.
• Quote:

  “I love being a millennial. I definitely don’t want to be Gen X—the forgotten. I don’t think I want to be a boomer. Because that one’s like, boomer.” – Amy (26:42)

6. “Think Dirty” App & Making Assumptions

• Amy finds the “Think Dirty” app on her boyfriend’s phone and chooses open communication over silent suspicion, humorously subverting expectations when it turns out to be about product toxicity (18:41–21:43).
  • Quote:

  “What is this Think Dirty app?...It’s for products, like, whether or not they’re toxic. That’s what I thought.” – Amy (18:41, 21:13)

7. Growing Up: Teachers, Trauma, & “Mid” Insults

• Kat shares a vivid story about a health-obsessed grade school teacher who called her snack choice unhealthy and allegedly questioned her intelligence—a formative, if cringey, memory (35:16–41:12).
  • Thread continues with Amy recalling a “backhanded compliment” from a teacher that fueled her own self-doubt (49:02).
  • Quote:

  “I think a lot of times it’s those little comments that hurt the most. Like, she wasn’t being outright mean, but you’re like, oh, so that’s what you really do think of me.” – Kat (49:19)

• Discussion on classroom memories turns into generational reflections on latchkey kids, family, and cultural differences around food and caregiving.
• Quick sidebar on modern “mid” culture—i.e., rating people or experiences as “mid” (mediocre)—and how language shapes self-worth for today’s generations (50:19–53:29).

8. The Pros and Cons of AI as Helpers—and Replacing Human Connection

• The hosts muse about AI and whether technology could (or should) replace teachers, relationships, and emotional support (34:50, 42:06).
  • Kat reflects on crucial school mentors, while Amy imagines a future where “your hologram wants to hang out with my hologram” (34:24–34:43).
  • Quote:

  “I don’t think AI is going to fully take over…I don’t know that they should replace teachers in classrooms and that, that one on one guidance.” – Amy (42:06)

9. Generational Naming—Fact or Fiction?

• They investigate (and joke about) where generation names come from, how long a “generation” lasts, and when naming generations became a thing (33:58–34:08).
  • Quote:

  “There’s no official body that makes generation names. Rather, names arise from a combination of academic theories, media influence, and pop culture. So it’s made up.” – Amy (33:58–34:08)

10. Alpha, Beta, and Personality Reflections

• A rousing end-of-episode reflection on alpha/beta labels (“Are you an Alpha personality?”) and the importance—especially for younger listeners—of not over-identifying with societal labels or stereotypes (59:40–61:44).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• [16:54] “Not my circus, not my monkeys. Not my chili, I don’t want to stir it. Not my pot.” – Amy
• [17:59] “‘If Patrick was to ever cheat on me...Let it run its course. Because I don’t want to be humiliated publicly on top of probably already feeling shame that my husband is cheating on me.” – Kat
• [18:41] "I was going through his apps and there’s this app...’Think dirty.’ ...I just went straight to him instead of building this whole story in my mind..." – Amy
• [27:14] “Millennials, we had the sweet spot. We know life before all the tech, and we also get to experience the tech.” – Amy
• [49:19] “It’s those little comments that are the ones that hurt the most.” – Kat
• [50:19] “If someone walked by you and it's like, 'mid' ...this isn’t a video game. This is real life.” – Amy
• [34:24] "Because the way technology, the pace that we're at, it's happening faster and faster...Before you know it, we're not even going to hang out in person. Just be like, 'Hey, does your hologram want to hang out with mine?'" – Amy

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:12] Podcast begins in earnest (after ads); “Feeling of the day” check-in
• [05:53] Relationship timelines and engagement pressure
• [13:52] Judging couples by their rings (or lack thereof)
• [16:47] Should you expose cheaters online?
• [18:41] “Think Dirty” app confusion
• [27:53] Millennial Syndrome checklist
• [35:16] Childhood teachers, food trauma & oyster crackers
• [49:02] The impact of off-handed remarks from teachers
• [50:15] “Mid” culture and rating others
• [53:05] Gen Z slang: “mid,” “Riz,” and “bussin”
• [59:40] “Alpha” and “Beta” generational naming & personality discussion

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Tone & Takeaways

• Language/Tone: Conversational, humorous, slightly irreverent, deeply relatable. The hosts blend casual teases with honest reflections and professional insights (Kat is a therapist).
• Takeaway: The best self-care sometimes means minding your own business, letting others work through their issues, and not jumping to conclusions or drama. Labels—whether generational or personal—are best taken with a grain of salt.

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Final Thought

Amy and Kat’s chemistry shines as they move seamlessly between deep wisdom and comic relief, reminding listeners that life’s chaos doesn’t always require our intervention. Sometimes, it’s healthiest to simply not stir the chili—especially if it isn’t yours.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Amy]

1, 2, 3. Hey.

[Kat]

All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings and you just want some, maybe a cat got you covered like a num brother. Ladies and fellas, we just follow in the spirit where it tell real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between. Sometimes the best thing you can do.

[Amy]

Is just stop and feel things.

[Kat]

This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.

[Amy]

Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.

[Kat]

And I'm Kat. And I'm starting with the feeling of the day, which is I'm feeling so forgetful.

[Amy]

Like, is that a action feeling?

[Kat]

Probably.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So underneath that I'm probably feeling some shame. And I wouldn't say I'm sad.

[Amy]

You're disappointed in yourself.

[Kat]

I wouldn't go that far.

[Amy]

Yeah, well, sometimes when I I'm annoying, forgetful. That's A good one. Annoyed. It's frustrating.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because you're like, what the is wrong with me?

[Kat]

Yeah. And it's like, very simple. Things are all. Well, I'll be talking to you and even telling you a story. In the middle of the story, I'll be like, where was it going with this?

[Amy]

Yeah. Like, what was the point?

[Kat]

Which is problematic in my line of work, because if I am sharing a story with somebody, I need to know where it's going and why I'm sharing it, you know?

[Amy]

Yeah. Like, you're talking about, like, a client.

[Kat]

Well, if I was working today, I think that if I was seeing clients today, that could happen. So I'd have to do a more.

[Amy]

Quiet version of your clients, like, unloading all this stuff on you. And then you're like, wait, what'd you say?

[Kat]

Can you go back?

[Amy]

You back it up to.

[Kat]

Is it your mom?

[Amy]

Wait, so why are you here? Yeah, well, you're my therapist. Yeah. I could see how that could be problematic.

[Kat]

Yeah. But I'm even forgetting, like, when I was getting ready to come over, I went upstairs to get ready, and I was like, put your earrings in. And I.

[Amy]

You don't have earrings in.

[Kat]

I know. I was like, put your earrings in and put on your rings. Because I had gone to the doctor earlier this morning, and I realized on the way to the doctor, I wasn't wearing my wedding rings, which is fine. But I made a mental note. Put them on before you go to record. I also was supposed to paint my nails, so I'm just struggling with a lot of things. Yeah.

[Amy]

Well, you remembered to email me rings. Do you want to tell everybody what you're up to?

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Email. It was a screenshot of an email. Right. Was that a. Are you on a newsletter for a jeweler?

[Kat]

Yes. Are you not?

[Amy]

No. Well, not yet. So you're gonna explain to people what you're doing.

[Kat]

Okay. So I would love to. I'm on this email list because it's the jewelry place that my ring is from. My engagement ring is from Walton's in downtown Franklin. Highly recommend. Great stuff. A lot of, like, pretty antique stuff. They can also make custom jewelry. Well, the.

[Amy]

Whatever you sent me most recently was vintage, and it was stunning, so.

[Kat]

Okay. They. I remember the. The, like, subject of the email was kind of funny. That's one of the reasons why I sent it to you. But it was.

[Amy]

It did say, like, in the screenshot, like, it cut off so I could read. It was like, between now and February is the time of year when more engagements Happen. Oh, out of any time of the year.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Probably because the holidays.

[Kat]

I didn't read that part, but the picture on the newsletter was this big, beautiful ring that I had seen on their Instagram and I just wanted to.

[Amy]

Make sure then I knew about it.

[Kat]

You knew about this ring because that's a one of a kind ring that they have there. Because it's. What would you call it? Vintage or antique?

[Amy]

The email said vintage.

[Kat]

Okay, it was vintage. Sounds a little more. Well, I guess antique is older.

[Amy]

Yeah, I think I like the word.

[Kat]

Vintage sounds better. Yeah, antique sounds like this old rusted thing.

[Amy]

Well, antiques are cute too, but yeah, I feel like it's not from like a, you know, antique mall.

[Kat]

It's. Right, Right. It's from. Okay, a jeweler. Anyway, I just wanted to make sure that you saw that because I don't know how much thought you're putting into stuff like that. And maybe I'm projecting, but you're about to come up on a year of dating.

[Amy]

Okay, so how. What? How long I am.

[Kat]

You are a year.

[Amy]

Yeah, we're a year in.

[Kat]

But when I sent this, you were just about to come up.

[Amy]

But what, What? At what point did you and Patrick get engaged?

[Kat]

So we got engaged about a month after our year. And we started talking about it probably. Well, we started talking about it probably six months in, but we started, like, talking about it, giving hints about what I would like probably nine, ten months.

[Amy]

Okay, so this is an appropriate time for you to be sending me things.

[Kat]

On my timeline that you like.

[Amy]

And if I like. But then what do I like? Okay. And that's fun. I love this part of our friendship. Like, I think it's fun. Like, it was like, oh, okay, I hadn't really thought about this, but what do I do with that? Because shouldn't you be sending that to Alex?

[Kat]

Well, I have to get a pulse on what you like. I just did this with a friend who got engaged this past weekend actually, and I went ring shopping with her. She is very like, she'll make an itinerary when we go on a trip. Like, she's very organized like that. She does events for a living. So we went and looked at stuff and then she made a mood board and sent the mood board to her. That is not then boyfriend, now fiance. This is what you're going to do. This is what we're going to do. If you're open to this. Is this okay?

[Amy]

Okay, I need to just say out front right here, I am not getting engaged. Okay. This year.

[Kat]

But.

[Amy]

But I'm just saying there's still.

[Kat]

It's fun to think about.

[Amy]

Yes, it's fun to think about. And I'm entertaining your fun.

[Kat]

This is about me.

[Amy]

This is. Yes, I'm entertaining. I was like, okay, we're talking about rings. I was like, do you want to confess what you've been cooking up? And then, like, on Saturday, you're like, hey, if you're by my house, we can pop into Walton's. And I'm like, so what if Alex is like, hey, what are you up to? And I'm like, oh, just looking at rings with Cat.

[Kat]

It could be for me.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Like, I. Maybe I'm looking for a vintage piece of jewelry or something. Something coming up.

[Amy]

You're collecting. Okay.

[Kat]

For my collection. Yes, of course.

[Amy]

Yeah. So, yes, this is fun, and I will play along. And a proposal is not happening this year. And I do think it's reasonable to be discussing it, though, because after you hit that year mark, at our age and we've got kids, I don't know that I'm. Look, unless I was a person that had zero desire to get married again, and I just wanted to date, and this is how we keep it then. Okay. But I don't think we would still be dating if we didn't think that that was on the horizon at some point.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And you were talking about painting your nails, and I. Look, you know how I never have my nails done?

[Kat]

Schedule?

[Amy]

No, I don't need to be. Not till next year, maybe.

[Kat]

Speaking from somebody who had bright blue. Electric blue nails when she got engaged. You really should be taking.

[Amy]

Wait, why? Why did you have electric blue nails?

[Kat]

You want to know something crazy is I forgot probably two months. Was doing very neutral colors. Neutral colors that, like, were still me. So I would do, like, a white with chrome or something. Something that was still fun. And then for some reason, I was like, well, it's not gonna happen in the next couple, next two weeks, so I'm just gonna do something fun. And I picked this blue that was fun and some might call ugly.

[Amy]

Yeah. I mean, looking back, you might be like, what was I thinking? And that was that cryo.

[Kat]

Cat would not have approved this color. Yes. I'll show it to you later.

[Amy]

It was at our live podcast taping in downtown Franklin, which is right across the street from Walton's. Yeah, the jewelry place. Anyways. And yeah, Patrick proposed. We had two shows that day. One in the afternoon, one at night. And he proposed to you after the night one.

[Kat]

And I had no idea because why would he do it at that.

[Amy]

Some of the listeners that were at the topgolf thing, they. Oh, really?

[Kat]

Were they there?

[Amy]

Yeah, they were at the live, and they brought up your engagement.

[Kat]

I thought I was running upstairs because I had gotten you a birthday cake, and I thought we were gonna go surprise you with it, so I was trying to run upstairs before you got upstairs, and then I got upstairs, and nobody else was there, and neither was the birthday cake. You did. I don't remember that. Oh, cryo cat walked in on my engagement. That's cute. And then what I love about that.

[Amy]

Nothing to see here.

[Kat]

I was like, oh, I forgot about this.

[Amy]

There's an engagement happening. I don't see that on the run of show.

[Kat]

It wasn't on there. Yeah, yeah, it was really cute. But anyway, back to you. I'll do your nails. You don't even have to spend money on that. Okay, we don't have to do it yet. Let's start in January.

[Amy]

We're not. Yes, January. It's 2026. If it happens, it will be in 2026. So we're not in a rush, like. But thank you for thinking of me. And that ring was beautiful, but I don't know what. You know, I have a question, so.

[Kat]

I'm not ready to be done with this.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Questions that don't come up.

[Kat]

Questions that don't come up that have to do with what we're talking about. Do you want to have a say in what you get?

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

Okay. Okay.

[Amy]

Ish. To a point.

[Kat]

Like. Because you don't want to pick it out, though. No. Okay.

[Amy]

No, I don't think I want to pick it out, but I would like a say.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Ish.

[Kat]

So then this is what we do.

[Amy]

I mean, that ring you sent is on the right track.

[Kat]

Okay. You would be okay if you got that ring?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay. Okay. So what we're gonna do is I'm gonna keep sending you things that I see that I like, and maybe. And maybe I'll need to go look for some vintage jewelry for myself, and I'll need a second opinion. So you'll come and we'll just be like, oh, look what's over there.

[Amy]

Try some stuff on.

[Kat]

And then we'll just talk about it and get a feel for things. So when the time comes, somebody will have some feedback or. This is what they do at Walton's. This is what they did for me. Not specifically for me. I think they do this for everybody, but they'll create a pro profile for you so they'll Just write down notes of things that you said, things you liked, things you didn't like. They're listening to you while you're trying stuff on and taking notes. And then. So if that's where he goes to get your ring, they'll be able to help him.

[Amy]

Oh, okay.

[Kat]

So we don't have to worry about this now, but.

[Amy]

Well, I know that's fine to think about.

[Kat]

He.

[Amy]

He went to that jeweler for his wife. So if people are new here, he was married before his wife passed away from cancer, so I still refer to her as his wife because I don't know.

[Kat]

Right.

[Amy]

It's not his ex wife, so that's where he got her ring.

[Kat]

Walton familiar with place.

[Amy]

He's familiar. Okay, so you're saying he's familiar, which.

[Kat]

Is a good place to be familiar with. So that's what we're gonna do. But right now we're just having fun. We're just in this fun stage. There's no pressure.

[Amy]

Speaking of fun, I know that the screenshot you sent me was a Walton's newsletter. And we have a newsletter that we're really cranking and putting it out. So make sure you've signed up and in every show notes. Now we're linking the newsletter so it's really easy to sign up. You don't have to have Instagram or any of the stuff because sometimes we're like, just go to our Instagram and click on this link or we'll put it in the stories and you click on it. But some people are not on social media all the time, which respect shout out for you. Yeah, good for you. Just check the show notes and you'll have the link there. Because you're gonna wanna be in the know for our newsletter coming up. For sure. For sure. In early November. Ish. Hint, hint.

[Kat]

And hopefully before early November.

[Amy]

Yeah, well, there. There's new newsletters going out, but there's me announcement.

[Kat]

Oh, yeah, you're really going to want.

[Amy]

To be around for that and the announcement. Did you already forget?

[Kat]

Yeah, I did already forget. And also I'm touching my ring finger again. I just remembered that I forgot my ring. I forgot. That I forgot and I remembered. And I have a question for you. When you see people, couples, random people out, do you make up, like stories about. As I'm saying this, I'm feeling a little silly, but, like, do you make stories about other people's lives when you see people out and about?

[Amy]

Not always, but I know where you're going with it because, like, you do that when you're like, pretend on vacation, and you're just like, oh, let's have fun. Like, I wonder what they're doing over there. And so I've. I've entertained that a little bit. But, like, what? Like, if you see somebody without their ring or something.

[Kat]

Well, so Patrick and I have these. This thing. He always wears his ring. He doesn't ever forget, which good for him. He is forgetful, but that he's not.

[Amy]

Just to clarify, he's got a horrible memory. But does he ever even take it off?

[Kat]

He does. He won't sleep in it, and I don't sleep in mine or shower in it. Anyway, what happens is when I forget my ring and he is wearing his ring, I'm always like, oh, no. People are gonna see us and think that you're married and I'm a home wrecker and we're having an affair.

[Amy]

Oh, that's where you jump to. What if it's that you just forgot your ring?

[Kat]

Well, yeah, that could be it. But isn't it crazy that, like, some people could see us and be, like, a married man with an unmarried woman?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I'm gonna take a picture and post it on Tick Tock to find the wife to tell her. People do that.

[Amy]

Yeah, people do that. People are like, if you're. If. Did you see that noise come from my throat? What was that?

[Kat]

To me sometimes, too, I feel like it's like a little air bubble. That is really. Okay.

[Amy]

Yeah. There. I saw one the other day where she was like, hey, if your husband was on the first Delta flight out of Atlanta at 8:55 and sitting in row five, seat B, I was next to him, and he's texting his mistress to let him know stop.

[Kat]

Yeah, I've seen the ones that are like, if your fiance was having a bachelorette trip in Nashville, I saw him last night at Tequila Cowboys, and we made out on the dance floor. I'm sorry, girl, I didn't know.

[Amy]

Wait, but when did you find out? Like, I. Yeah, dog, sorry. I didn't know, dude.

[Kat]

Cat.

[Amy]

Nice. Text, dog. To each other all the time. Like, W a D a W, G.

[Kat]

Dog, you started it.

[Amy]

Well, because the. The sister on righteous gemstones, like, she'd be talking to her brothers, and she'd be like, dog, Judy.

[Kat]

Just.

[Amy]

She like, so. I just always thought it was so.

[Kat]

Funny if somebody read our text message. Every other word is like, sick. Yeah, dog. Yo, I think we're, like, 13 trying to be cool.

[Amy]

I texted you this morning. I was like, science is weird, man. And you were like, yeah, dog.

[Kat]

I know. Our text would be like, okay, so my whole point of that story is if somebody posts a tick tock of me and Patrick, don't be alarmed. We are married.

[Amy]

Yeah. Happily married. There's no.

[Kat]

I'm just forgetful.

[Amy]

Yeah. Just forgot your ring, that's all.

[Kat]

Would you post one of those videos if you saw somebody actively cheating on their wife?

[Amy]

Not my circus. Not my monkeys. Not my circus.

[Kat]

Very healthy.

[Amy]

No, not my chili. I don't want to stir it. Not my pot.

[Kat]

Did you just make that up on the pot?

[Amy]

No, these are sayings.

[Kat]

Oh, I was gonna say it's creative.

[Amy]

I'm sure you've heard them.

[Kat]

Not my chili. Not gonna stir.

[Amy]

No, it.

[Kat]

Is it.

[Amy]

Not my circus. Not my monkeys. Or not my monkeys. Not my circus. Okay, monkeys first.

[Kat]

Not my.

[Amy]

So not my monkeys. Not my circus.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

No, I don't. I'm not trying to be dramatic. I don't know everybody's full circumstance. Like, I don't know the whole story, and I don't want to know.

[Kat]

Do you think people do that really to be helpful or to go viral? Because that goes viral if they're doing.

[Amy]

It publicly online like that. I guess because some people will slide into a DM, like, if they know the person directly, But I guess if you're going public, it means you don't know exactly who you're sending it to and you're trying to find the person. Like you're some, like, relationship vigilante.

[Kat]

Yeah. Because they'll be like, tick tock, do your thing. Yeah, find this woman.

[Amy]

Like I would want to do.

[Kat]

Also, that's humiliating. To find out your husband is. Or your boyfriend or whoever's cheating on you through TikTok. That's humiliating. If my. If Patrick was to ever cheat on me somewhere and be talking to his mistress. You know what, I'll eventually find out? Let it run its course. Because I don't want to be humiliated publicly on top of probably already feeling shame that my husband is cheating on me.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

You know, like, you're not that person's. I'm getting a little worked up about this. But for the people that are doing that to be helpful, it might not be the most helpful thing.

[Amy]

You know what I got worked up about? Speaking of relationships, the other day, I was on my boyfriend's phone and I. It wasn't like a Tinder app or anything like that.

[Kat]

Texting his mistress.

[Amy]

No. But I was going through his apps because I was looking for, I think just Instagram, because I was gonna.

[Kat]

Were you looking for pictures of engagement rings?

[Amy]

No, no. But I started swiping through and there's this app and on the icon it says think dirty. And I was like, well, what is this? See? Well, I was like, well, this is not discreet. If this is a dirty app, there's no way it's dirty. Cause, like, why would it be obvious? And obvious I also know my boyfriend, so I was like 99.9% sure it was nothing. But what was it?

[Kat]

Well, okay, hold on. Before you tell me what it is.

[Amy]

Initial thought, it's a black icon with white letters that say Think dirty.

[Kat]

I think just telling me that without using like common sense of it wouldn't be that obvious. I would think that that app would be about, like, how to get a dirty mind and like how to like it.

[Amy]

Like, how do you come up with dirty.

[Kat]

How to come up with like sex. Sex things, you know, like dirty.

[Amy]

How to be like, come up with.

[Kat]

Witty with or like how to come up with like dirty talk or something.

[Amy]

Or like dirty jokes or stuff.

[Kat]

I guess. I don't know. That's what I would. That's the most from Think Dirty. That's where my brain would go. But now I'm like, is it about like washing cars or something?

[Amy]

A washing cars app? What do you get from that app? Tell me more intriguing tips and tricks. Hey, remember what I did I tell you the other day that I washed my car? We maybe talked about on the podcast, but I was so proud of myself. I forget what we talk about versus what we just talked about in real life, but I washed my own car today. And Kat was like, you know, there's a car wash down the street that will do the whole thing inside and out for 25. And I was like, yeah, but there's something that just feels good about me doing it myself.

[Kat]

And you said that it like jump started you to do other stuff.

[Amy]

Yeah, it just like felt good. Like I did this and I felt accomplished and I scrubbed the wheels and to clean the tires. Like it did everything.

[Kat]

So if you had to think dirty out, maybe it would have tips of like use the soap on this type of rubber. Think dirty.

[Amy]

Think dirty.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

No, it's about products. Like clean products versus dirty. Like toxic versus non toxic.

[Kat]

Why wouldn't they call it think clean?

[Amy]

I think they were trying to be clever. Oh, like think.

[Kat]

So is that like one of those apps that like scans?

[Amy]

I guess so. I didn't even click. I just went straight to him instead of building up this whole story. In my mind about what it could be. I was just like, what is this Think Dirty app? And he said, it's for products like, okay. Whether or not they're toxic or non toxic. And I'm like, okay, cool. That's what I thought.

[Kat]

I really like that you just built that up. As in, like, I did the mature thing and didn't want to make up a story, so I just went to him and I was like, so what is this?

[Amy]

I had to make sure, like, for that. That point. Oh, 1%. Like, I was 99.9 sure. It was not nothing but that one little smidge of me had to be like, Katya.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You want to explain this Think Dirty app? Yeah, you can tell me about it. How often are you thinking dirty? Logging in.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And if it was an app that taught him how to, like, think and talk dirty, like, it's not working. I don't even know. No, he's not.

[Kat]

You're not logging in very often.

[Amy]

I don't think we are. I don't think we are. Which. What is my. Like, so if we're millennial and. And he's not, like, what. What is he.

[Kat]

Stop. You're dating somebody in a different generation.

[Amy]

I know. That's why sometimes our humor is, like, not. We don't get.

[Kat]

So he doesn't say, yeah, dogs.

[Amy]

I mean, he'll. He'll play around like that. If I do that, he'll be like, hey, dog. Yeah, he's 53. He just turned 53. So he's the.

[Kat]

I.

[Amy]

What's the one before Melina? He's Gen X, the forgotten generation. That's why we don't know it. I'm pretty sure they call Gen X forgotten.

[Kat]

What. What's the time period, Shannon, of Gen X? Because I'm. Is that. What. And then Boomers is the one before that.

[Amy]

So 1965 to 1980 is Gen X.

[Kat]

Why are they forgotten?

[Amy]

I think they just call it that because nobody. They're like, the gen. Like, what are they? Because boomers are very popular, and then millennials are popular, so they're like the in between. So it's the.

[Kat]

It's like latchkey kids.

[Amy]

What is a latchkey kid?

[Kat]

Isn't that like the kid who just, like, has a key and goes home and, like, lets himself in? No parents.

[Amy]

Oh, that's sad.

[Kat]

Well, I think they had parents, but, like, their parents were at work when they.

[Amy]

Wait, I've never heard this. How did you know?

[Kat]

Yeah, yeah. Like, they have to, like. Yeah. Oh, so dual income households Both parents are working so when you get home from school you're letting yourself in versus Boomers. Most of the moms probably didn't work and then Millennials. I think it's we're having kids later so maybe we just don't know yet.

[Amy]

But well, have you heard of the Millennial syndrome?

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[Amy]

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[Amy]

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[Kat]

Okay. I want to go through this checklist, but I have to ask this question because it's in my brain. Would you rather be a different generation?

[Amy]

No. I love being a millennial. I definitely don't want to be Gen X forgotten. Forgotten. I don't think I want to be a boomer. Because that one's like, boomer.

[Kat]

Because people are like, oh, boomers.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But people do that to millennials now.

[Amy]

I don't think I want to be after Millennial. What's that? Gen Z. Gen Z. Because it's so techie. I feel like millennials, we had, like, we're experiencing everything. We had the sweet spot of, like, we know life before all the tech, and then we also get to experience the tech.

[Kat]

Also made life harder in many ways. But I digress.

[Amy]

What, what, what, what? What would you choose? What's before?

[Kat]

What would you do? Do you remember that show? What would you do? That's what that reminded me of. Do you remember that show?

[Amy]

No.

[Kat]

It's from Nickelodeon. And they put the little questions on their head and they had to, like. Or it was like a challenge and you had to, like, pick the challenge and then you got slimed. Oh, Nickelodeon. What would you do? Yes, Nickelodeon.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Yeah. You're an elder. You probably were too old for that show.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Because you're basically a forgotten generation.

[Amy]

I am.

[Kat]

I'm sorry. That was mean.

[Amy]

I know. But I was close.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Right on the.

[Kat]

I'm ready.

[Amy]

Okay. So I'm going to run through seven symptoms of Millennial Syndrome. Okay. You see which ones you've.

[Kat]

Okay. And is which syndrome something you don't want?

[Amy]

Yeah, I Don't think you want it.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I mean. But a lot of us have it, so you're not alone. Okay. Chronic anxiety and overthinking. Like, always feeling like you're falling behind or doing life wrong.

[Kat]

I have chronic anxiety, but I don't think I'm. I don't think I'm doing life wrong.

[Amy]

I'm chronically anxious, but I'm doing life right.

[Kat]

My anxiety is about other things.

[Amy]

Yeah. Nervous system burnout. Like, you've got sleep issues. You're wired, but tired. You have difficulty calming down because your stress response was never built for, like, this pace.

[Kat]

I don't feel like I have that d. Are you gonna answer?

[Amy]

I don't think I have that.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I have other nervous system issues, but. Imposter syndrome. Doubting your accomplishments even when you're doing well.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Check Financial fatigue, Feeling crushed by debt, housing costs, or the belief that no matter how hard you work, it's never enough.

[Kat]

I think so. I think. What. What are you going.

[Amy]

I'm saying I'm like.

[Kat]

Because I'm always like, I'm poor, and you're like, You're a money magnet.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I think of life. Yeah. Yeah. I always.

[Amy]

Money flocks, too.

[Kat]

Yeah. Flocks. Ooh.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I just was thinking more so, like, I have the fatigue of. Oh, my gosh. When I. When I was younger, if I would have known how much money I'd be making at this age, I would have been like, you're going to be living in a mansion, and you're going to be driving seven different cars I don't have. Maybe not that far, But I'd be thinking, like, oh, you haven't made. Or like, you know, you could quit your job because you could live on just your husband's income, but now that I'm here, I'm like, yeah, no, we got to keep going.

[Amy]

Well, yeah. Life is.

[Kat]

It's way more expensive. So that's what. What my money fatigue is. Like, when is it inflation gonna stop? Yeah. Kind of thing. So. Yes.

[Amy]

So it's, like, never enough. Yeah. Authority, skepticism, a deep distrust of institutions, rules, and systems that you were told to obey.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Yeah. For sure.

[Kat]

I'm like, I have no question on that one.

[Amy]

Wait a second. Sometimes I wonder if I just, like, think things just because. Yeah. I was told this is what you're supposed to think and believe. And when I step back and do some critical thinking, I'm like, I don't know. Sounds a little cuckoo. Work, identity confusion. Struggling to find meaning. And work after chasing the good Job for years.

[Kat]

No.

[Amy]

I feel like I got pretty lucky with my job early on. I would maybe have that if I hadn't gone to Culver's that one day.

[Kat]

Such a good story. Okay.

[Amy]

Changed my life. Cheese curds.

[Kat]

I don't like the name of that.

[Amy]

Cheese curds.

[Kat]

I just wish they were called cheese Balls.

[Amy]

Yeah, I bet.

[Kat]

I think dirty.

[Amy]

You like the balls, don't you?

[Kat]

You're a child. Maybe you are. What's Gen Y? Is that like the after Gen Z? What? Gen Z? I don't know, like, third.

[Amy]

I forget. Yeah. Like, what's Stevenson? My son. Is he. Jen? No.

[Kat]

What? That's the fact that I'm millennial. I'm.

[Amy]

I'm 1981. Oh, wow.

[Kat]

That was a diss. You're so genuine.

[Amy]

Exactly. I am. I'm so Gen Y. I think they're like a. They're not a letter. Like, my son is Alpha. Yeah, it's like a one word.

[Kat]

You're so Alpha. I'd want to be Alpha. Yeah. Yeah.

[Amy]

They're like, subconsciously being trained to be alphas because every time they're asked, what are you? I'm Alpha.

[Kat]

Who makes the names?

[Amy]

Good question.

[Kat]

Who?

[Amy]

The National Institute of Generations. Nig.

[Kat]

Nig. And, like, who decides how long when they're gonna. Are they all always the same amount of time?

[Amy]

I think. I don't know. It's a good question. Like, was the chunk of time always the same?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I don't know.

[Kat]

Okay, well, questions that don't come up, that we don't have answers to.

[Amy]

The final symptom of Millennial Syndrome is body stress. Unexplained fatigue, gut issues, hormonal imbalances. Check, check, check, check. Or autoimmune flare ups from chronic overdrive.

[Kat]

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I don't have all of those, but, I mean, I mean.

[Amy]

Yeah, I feel like I have body stress symptoms. Hormonal imbalances are just. Yeah, well, you're. I have no words.

[Kat]

Well, and also, like, you're. As a female, your body is constantly going through changes, so your hormones are always going to be.

[Amy]

Yeah. And we're in perimenopause for, like, I don't know, a good 15, 20 years and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep.

[Kat]

And then you're in menopause, so is that really great? And then perimenopause, and you're just in the next stage.

[Amy]

And then apparently they start to shrivel up. That's what they say.

[Kat]

Sad.

[Amy]

No, like, and your body. Never mind. That's for. That's Thinking dirty. Thinking dirty. But it's not really. It's about our bodies. And some women, I don't know if we were talking about on the Bobby Bone show or maybe here, we were talking about, like, your body parts. And on women, the. Down there, it shrinks, shrivels up into your body. Like, say you have like your. I don't know the professional terms, so I don't want to say, but the folds, thingies, the.

[Kat]

Can I. The labia.

[Amy]

I don't know. Okay. They start to shrivel up.

[Kat]

I did not know that.

[Amy]

Yeah. Why? Maybe some of our older listeners can tell us. But I've. They've. I've had them right in.

[Kat]

Or leave us a voicemail of you have shriveled up down there. We'd love to hear about it.

[Amy]

I've heard from listeners before that are older, that they've experienced in their, like, things. Nobody ever tells you things that don't come up. Things that don't come up. And it's like, why is nobody talking about this? Like, we need to know.

[Kat]

Yeah. Like, so interesting.

[Amy]

Also, there's no official body that makes generation names. Rather, names arise from a combination of academic theories, media influence, and pop culture.

[Kat]

So it's made up.

[Amy]

They're not always the same length baby boom was. It's like a demographic shift. And then there's rapid changes brought on by Internet. I mean, we're getting to a point where things are changing so rapidly, we're gonna have new generations, like, every couple years now. Because it's like, well.

[Kat]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy]

Because the way technology, the pace that we're at, it's just happening faster and faster and faster. Before you know it, we're not even going to hang out in person. Just be like, hey, does your hologram want to hang out with my hologram? And then we're just laying in our bed.

[Kat]

I'm not doing that. Okay, we have to. We have to promise each other. Aren't going to hang out with each other's holograms.

[Amy]

I promise.

[Kat]

I promise you.

[Amy]

But, I mean, bed is nice, but I love bed. I love bed. I really love bed.

[Kat]

I saw this thing on probably Facebook because, you know, I've been hanging out there lately. Maybe I'm a boomer. It was Bill Gates. I almost said Al Gore, Bill Gates. It was saying, In 10 years, AI is going to take over so much, we won't even have. We won't even have a need for, like, some large percentage of doctors and teachers. Like, teachers can't be replaced by AI.

[Amy]

Well, I mean, they can, but we don't want them to.

[Kat]

But think about, like, the doctors can either. But I'm thinking about, like, the emotional and, like, how teachers impact not just kids, but even in college. I think of, like, one or two teachers that had a huge. The. The relationship I had with them had a huge impact on my life and especially growing up. There's some teachers I can think of that had a negative impact. One that I won't name, but she made me eat a soybean. Wait, I told my mom about it. She also told my mom I was stupid.

[Amy]

Wait, yeah, she made you eat a soybean.

[Kat]

She's very healthy.

[Amy]

Why did she eat a soybean?

[Kat]

Okay, what if you can? Honestly, some of my. Like, I would have found out right then and there, so. Okay, this is crazy now that I'm thinking back on it, so. Also, I had a lot of my body image stuff started in elementary school, so this was probably the precursor for it. I don't want to blame her, but I'm just, like, thinking out loud. But she was very healthy, and she talked about health all the time. I don't know what she was going through personally, but we had to do this 4H project. Do you know what for? Did you have that? Oh, you probably did have that.

[Amy]

Yeah. I'm from Texas.

[Kat]

Yeah. So you had to prepare a healthy snack and, like, do a presentation about it. And in front of the class. And I chose to make these oyster crackers that were covered in butter, but.

[Amy]

Like, not a real. It's just the oyster cracker, not oysters.

[Kat]

Yes. Yes.

[Amy]

Okay. Because the little oyster crackers are, like, what you would sprinkle on top of soup.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So I don't know. I think my mom just was in a kick of making these or something.

[Amy]

Do you know how good those are.

[Kat]

With butter and, like, seasonings?

[Amy]

Oh, yeah. And if you had so good. Yeah.

[Kat]

You had to be able to make this in front of the class. So you couldn't. There's a lot of things you couldn't do. So I made these crackers that. Yeah, we're covered in butter. But I'm in third or fourth grade. Like, come on. It's fine. It's okay. I didn't have to win the first place in the competition, but, like, just eat my cracker and let's move on. So she said about how my snack wasn't healthy.

[Amy]

Well, was that part of the requirement? Like, did they say, we need to meet you to make a healthy snack? And then Kat's Like, I have the perfect.

[Kat]

I found this on Paula Dean's website. Yeah, I don't remember all the details of this. I just remember.

[Amy]

Yeah, there's zero nutritional value, but it's fine.

[Kat]

There's nutritional value in butter. There is.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

There's vitamins.

[Amy]

You're right. Sure.

[Kat]

So anyway. And carbs. Carbs. We need carbs to live. And brings carbs. And, like, joy. Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

That joy is healthy. So it's like. I made brownies. Okay.

[Amy]

You should. Well, I know, but I mean, I guess I. I don't know if she was wanting you to bring, like, a vegetable or. Sure.

[Kat]

It was 4H, so I probably should.

[Amy]

Have brought some kind of, like a homegrown.

[Kat]

Regardless, she gave me a bad grade because I. It wasn't healthy enough. And then she talked about.

[Amy]

I just don't know the rules. I'm just laughing because it's kind of.

[Kat]

Funny I should ask my mom if.

[Amy]

The rules were to bring, like, something like, incorporated. Like, 4H is like, you know, whose side are you on? I mean, butter is from cows. Okay, you're there. I love butter. I'm just saying I don't know the. The requirements of the assignment, but keep going.

[Kat]

Okay. Anyway, I should have talked about this with my mom because my mom specifically remembers this teacher because she said a couple mean things to me. And my mom's very protective, and so she does not like this lady.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So anyway, I got a bad grade. She said it wasn't healthy. Then I don't know if this was. I think this was related where she's talking about. She's so she is healthy, and she eats soybeans, like, popcorn instead of popcorn, when she's watching a movie, she'll just pop soybeans in her mouth. And of course, we're in fourth grade. We're all like, soybeans. Ew, gross. And so she was like, I'm gonna bring soybeans for you guys. So she brought us all soybeans to class the next day. Think about, like, your favorite teacher. She probably gave you, like, a Reese's or something like that. She gave us soybeans, and she passed them all out, and we had to eat one.

[Amy]

Oh, okay. See, well, that's. I thought she, like, put you in the corner. You specifically. And she's like. You're like, she made me a soybean. It's like, pass out. Like, when you. Before you told the story, I was picturing you, like, sitting there, like, in the corner, like, with your head down. And she's like, eat this soy bean. Put this in your mouth right now. But I can't. I got to say, I don't even really know what a soybean like.

[Kat]

Edamame.

[Amy]

Oh, edamame.

[Kat]

Yeah. Well, edama, I do love it, but I was in fourth grade. I didn't, like. I didn't even like green beans back then.

[Amy]

It does sound better if you say she made me eat a soybean instead of, like, she forced us to eat at a mummy soybean. Sounds more traumatic.

[Kat]

So also, she calls you stupid. Yeah. So I was put in, like, the gifted program or whatever. You know, the gifted and talented. I don't think I was. I really don't think I was supposed to be there. But regardless, they put me there, and I was smart in certain areas. Like, there are certain. I wasn't smart in everything. I also don't know that I, like, wanted to be in that. But regardless, my mom. I need to. Again, I should ask my mom for clarification, but something happened where she, like, told my mom whether it was in a parent T shirt conference or on the phone. Like, yeah, Catherine should never have been put in that program. Like, she can't keep up. She's. My mom tells a story that, like, she called me dumb. I don't know if she said those words or if that's what my mom took, but I think she's had it out for me. After the oyster crackers, she probably was like, she's dumb. She didn't know that that wasn't healthy.

[Amy]

Or she didn't want to be.

[Kat]

Now she can't read.

[Amy]

Your treat. She probably is like, oh, I love those. And now she brought them in my classroom, and now I can't have them. And now I'm annoyed.

[Kat]

That's a good.

[Amy]

You're in a bad mood.

[Kat]

Mm.

[Amy]

Because you. Like you said, you don't know what was going on with her. So I feel like, oh, I try to spend my days avoiding oyster butter crackers. Yeah.

[Kat]

I'm sorry. I would like to apologize to her. If that's what happened, then I'm sorry. But also, I was, like, 9 years old. You were in your 40s. So my point in all this is, if AI is our teachers, we would never have this conversation.

[Amy]

I'm starting to think AI for you might not be that bad. I'm like, AI can't force us to eat soybeans.

[Kat]

But then I had a lot of really good. I mean, I think most people can think of, like, one teacher that impacted them in some way. Like, I have a teacher in college. If she was not my advisor, I never would have become, never would have become a therapist, I don't think.

[Amy]

No, I mean, I think relationships are important. I don't think the AI is going to fully take over. I think there's AI tools that could help with like tutoring and helping you learn, but I don't know that they should replace teachers in classrooms and that, that one on one guidance. But yeah, who knows, 30 years from now I'd be like, can you believe they used to have human teachers? And they're going to think that it's crazy. I mean, we're going to think it's sad, but they're going to be like. And then when something else takes over for AI, they're going to be like, can you believe they're thinking about getting rid of AI teachers? It's so sad because like they're gonna feel, feel bonded. Like doordash. Put out that cute little, little delivery robot.

[Kat]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Amy]

It's cute though. It's got little eyeballs. Have you ever seen a ro. One of these little robot things in person? Like my ex husband at his work, they have a robot dog. Like one of those dogs that goes in and like can help keep you safe. They can sniff out bombs or whatever.

[Kat]

That's pretty cool.

[Amy]

He had it at the house, they brought it over and I like didn't want them to put that dog in danger. It's a robot, but it was so cute. I know it's not real, it's a metal and a machine.

[Kat]

But you feel emotionally.

[Amy]

But I'm like, what are you going to do with it? Like, y' all are just going to feed it and hang out with it, right? But no, it's going to help save human lives, but at what cost? You know, like to me, the robots and like one time in Vegas, I was getting on an elevator and the hotel had these little robot butler thingies and one got on the elevator with me and it was so cute.

[Kat]

It was all you doing today.

[Amy]

Well, yeah, but you don't, you know, it's not gonna talk back, but it like it's little cameras, looks like little eyeballs and.

[Kat]

Okay. Are you watching Forgetful Murders in the Building?

[Amy]

No.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

No, I do like that show, but I haven't watched it.

[Kat]

Okay, well, there's a robot element that I think you are reminding me of somebody who might be falling in love with a robot.

[Amy]

No, I'm not going to fall in love with a robot. I think they're cute.

[Kat]

Sounds like you already started.

[Amy]

No, I don't think I could have feelings for a robot. But, you know, that might be a thing one day.

[Kat]

I think it already is. Well, yeah, people are having relationships with chat GPT, but is it going to become more normal? Normal? Let's interchange the word normal with common.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Maybe more common. That doesn't make it normal.

[Amy]

Thank you.

[Kat]

And it being a normal also doesn't make it healthy.

[Amy]

Oh, that's the therapist coming through. Yeah, you are smart. I can't believe Soybean Sally told you for one second you were stupid.

[Kat]

It's a great name for her. I'm gonna have to ask my mom what she said. Oh, you don't have to. I can't tell you what her name is. Yeah. Because who knows where she is. And maybe she thinks about that and she's like, I should have treated Catherine Defada better. You know, maybe she could have processed that in her there. Because there's things that I've even done as a therapist 10 years ago that I look back on now and I'm like, oh, I wish I could have done that differently. As you learn more, you know.

[Amy]

Yeah. Sometimes teachers may not even realize how their words are impacting a student. Like I have that one teacher from my high school. I was in her chemistry class. But unlike you, I wasn't in the gifted chemistry. I was in chemistry in the community. We also called it chemcom and it was chemistry for like it's chemistry for.

[Kat]

People who didn't love chemistry. Right. Maybe didn't excel in chemistry.

[Amy]

Slower to grasp the concepts of chemistry.

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[Kat]

Narrative, you know, and she thought she's giving you a compliment. And that was like, really not kind.

[Amy]

But I don't think she. She realized how much it impacted me. Because I've thought about it every day since. I'm just kidding. Every day. Not every day, but a lot.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

In my.

[Kat]

I think a lot of times it's those little comments that are the ones that hurt the most. Like, she wasn't being outright mean, but you're like, oh, so that's what you really do think of me.

[Amy]

Yeah. Like you thought, oh, gosh, like y' all were. You were thinking, okay, you were also saying you were proud of me, but also you had zero expectations that obviously.

[Kat]

What did you think I was gonna do?

[Amy]

Right? Like, that it was just gonna be like, meh. Mid. As Gen Z. Gen Z says, mid. I had to tell my son, y', all, him, his friends, y' all gotta stop using mid. Like, why my daughter would be like, on FaceTime with a friend and nobody's asking, nobody's asking her about her friend or what she looks like or whatever. And if Stevenson had friends over, like, they would just walk by and be like, look at the FaceTime. And they'd be like, mid. They're like, right? They're just like out in public raiding girls. And it's like, nobody asked you. Also, you're mid. I mean, you know, like a little.

[Kat]

Like 11 year old boy or.

[Amy]

Right?

[Kat]

You're so mid.

[Amy]

No, I mean, I guess I was just making a point of like, what if someone walked by you and it's like, middle, like, what? This isn't a video game. This is real life. Like, we're not like walking around. Like, it made me think of an episode of Black Mirror.

[Kat]

I've only watched one episode and it was enough for me to never watch again.

[Amy]

Crazy. And also feel very accurate. Like, they could happen, like very futuristic stuff that isn't that far out. And I feel like there was an episode, I can't remember which season, but where, like, people walked around and it was like, you know, like things that would be happening inside of a dating app, but they would just be happening in public. You walk by and like, if your brain thinks like, oh, that person's the seven, I want to give them hearts or whatever. And you walk by and it's like, you know how someone's rating you in that moment or. I'm definitely paraphrasing this episode. I get what you're saying exactly how it was at all whatsoever. Because it's been a couple years since I've seen it, but, you know, like, it just felt like you're inside this real life. Virtual. It's, like, virtual, but it's your real life.

[Kat]

That's my greatest nightmare. I do not want to know what people.

[Amy]

Like, how many likes you're getting in that moment. Like, it's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Like, if you were to be processing, like, say you post something and then you're physically processing the likes that you're getting.

[Kat]

I don't want that.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Oh, that's the life that your son and his friends are living. Okay, yeah, they can stop saying mid. Yeah, well, if it's not mid, what do they say?

[Amy]

I don't know. The. I guess I paid attention to the mid because that's where I drew the line of, like, stop. You're not going to walk by. And a girl that's on FaceTime that asked your opinion. Zero.

[Kat]

Like, she didn't.

[Amy]

Nothing came out of her mouth. She's just innocently talking on FaceTime with her friend and she's getting raided. No, but my boyfriend's sons, like, they were talking about girls in their grade and, like, all the different schools, and they were ranking, like, the grades of schools. They're like, ooh, the 10th graders at this school, really good. The 10th graders at that school, like, the whole class, like, overall, they rank, like, Which. I know.

[Kat]

It's also subjective. Also, like, why. I mean, that's the brain of a. I'm sure.

[Amy]

And I said, well, how do y' all even. You're not even at the schools. Like, how are you looking? We're like, oh, social media, Snapchat, Instagram. And I'm like, y' all are sucking girls on there. Just, like, looking them up. And he was like, well, yeah, I would say if we, like, hear about a girl, we may look her up. But girls do way more stalking online than the guys do.

[Kat]

Sure they do.

[Amy]

I'm like, yeah, that's what the guilty ones say.

[Kat]

That's what you want us to think?

[Amy]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kat]

Well, that's sad.

[Amy]

So, anyway, millennial syndrome.

[Kat]

This is a bright and sunny episode for you.

[Amy]

Oh, Shannon said mid for mediocre. Riz. If you've got charisma, then that's Riz. And then bussin.

[Kat]

I was gonna say excellent, but, like.

[Amy]

That'S like that waiter that your friend had where he's like, this chicken is normally busing, but this is what we call the Missionary. Missionary style Chicken.

[Kat]

Yeah, the missionary style of chicken. So he was saying it was.

[Amy]

Which is just mid. Yeah, boring.

[Kat]

You can call a dish on a menu mid. You can't say that to a person. Human being.

[Amy]

Exactly.

[Kat]

Okay, so what I've learned is that you'll eventually be dating a robot, and you're.

[Amy]

No, I'm not.

[Kat]

I'm just kidding.

[Amy]

I feel very fortunate to have fallen in love with the actual human. We can't all be so lucky with a. With a Gen Y.

[Kat]

Or wait, no, he's a. You're a Gen Y? No, I'm a millennial, which is Gen Y.

[Amy]

Okay. He's. Jen. What is he. Oh, sorry. Gosh, he's forgotten. Oh, yeah, he's.

[Kat]

Why you can't remember.

[Amy]

He's a lock key.

[Kat]

Latch key.

[Amy]

Okay. He's a latch key. I.

[Kat]

But was he.

[Amy]

Actually, I have. Yeah. I do think he was a latchkey because his parents got divorced. Like, while he has. His mom has since passed away, and he sees his dad a lot. But, like, growing up, he was like, his mom worked. His parents were divorced, so he'd be back and forth, but his mom worked, his dad worked. And then also. Yeah, he kind of was fitting for himself, which is weird. My mom was a. I don't really know what my grandma did. I know when I was older or I was born, by the time I was around, she was managing a bowling alley. But I don't know what she did when my mom was alive. But my mom definitely had to fend for herself. Like, I don't. I know her dad died, and I don't know when my grandma got remarried, but. But it's weird to think that I wish my mom was still alive so I could ask her these questions, but I know that she definitely didn't have emotional, available parents at all, whatsoever. But also just food. Like, it's not like there was, like, meals repaired. Like, she would have to just be, like, digging through cabinets trying to figure out, like, oh, what am I gonna piece together for lunch or dinner? And I'm like, It's weird because my grandma, you know, she took me shopping for Madame Alexandra dolls. It's like, what, you had a different experience? Yes, I had a very different experience. And, like, there was always candy and Klondike bars.

[Kat]

Klondike bars, yes. Yeah.

[Amy]

My grandma always had those in her freezer. Like, we. There was always food. When I would go stay with my grandmother, I would stay with her for weeks. I mean, she barely ate because she smoked a lot. And then Also, she didn't have teeth, so she would take her dentures, but she would do. She would love doing cornbread and milk.

[Kat]

Wait, can you not eat with dentures?

[Amy]

You can. Well, I don't know if her kind. You could, because she would take them out especially for her cornbread and milk.

[Kat]

Her cornbread and milk? Why are you doing it like a spoon?

[Amy]

Because, like, she would put it in a cup and put the cornbread in a glass of milk and eat it.

[Kat]

With a spoon, like cereal and milk.

[Amy]

But cornbread in a cup and not in a bowl.

[Kat]

Is this a thing? Well, it was for my grandma because she couldn't chew.

[Amy]

I think it just was good to her. And again, she really didn't eat much because she. I don't know if it's the cigarettes or what.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

You know, like, when you're smoking. Oh, all the time.

[Kat]

Wait, Shannon just looked it up, and it was called the poor man's dessert.

[Amy]

Cornbread milk. Yeah. I mean, I know they didn't have a lot of money, but see, then my grandma got remarried, and my grandpa Louie, that was my step grandpa, I never knew my real one again. He passed away, but he was postman. And then he retired. And I think he had good retirement, so maybe they had a little bit more at that point. Like, I don't know what it was like for my mom's childhood, but I'm telling you, my grandma had a candy closet. I mean, everything smelled like cigarettes, so it's fine. So it's like you open the Snickers and it was, like, cool, but you got used to it. It's fine. Okay.

[Kat]

So.

[Amy]

Yeah, there you go. More, you know, blast from the past. She was a. Not a boomer, my grandma, I bet. Whatever.

[Kat]

Before. I don't know, it's before that world.

[Amy]

A World War II, this silent generation. And there's probably, like, the Great Depression.

[Kat]

Oh.

[Amy]

Oh, that was my dad in my.

[Kat]

When was your dad born?

[Amy]

1941.

[Kat]

Oh, silent is great Depression.

[Amy]

Oh, gosh. I wonder, like. Yeah. When we got real cool with the names.

[Kat]

Yeah. Like, did these names exist back then or. They just started them, like, 20 years ago. Yeah.

[Amy]

We went back and renamed them. Like, retro.

[Kat]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that, like, in the 1700s, they don't have names for the generations. Right.

[Amy]

There's the Gilded Age.

[Kat]

You love coming that up.

[Amy]

That was the late 1800s.

[Kat]

It's like you're waiting for a time that you can bring up the Gilded Age.

[Amy]

I know what the Gilded Age is.

[Kat]

No.

[Amy]

Just popped into my no, if you give me an opportunity, I'll say it. I'm not, like, waiting. I'm like, please bring up the late 1800s. I cannot wait for that. But, like, when. So the Titanic sank in 1912. What generation was that? The. Maybe GI Bill, like, for serving in the military. If there was the GI Generation, I think that.

[Kat]

I'm thinking they just didn't care about this stuff as much back then. Oh, it's the greatest generation. Good for them.

[Amy]

Also, we are not a history podcast.

[Kat]

But we could be, because you know about the Gilded Age.

[Amy]

Yeah, we could. Yeah. From the show on hbo. Max. Yeah. There's Generation. Oh, wow. Beta. Beta. Generation Beta is the next one. Kat. If you have a baby in 2026, it'll be beta. It's going to be a Beta.

[Kat]

Well, that's kind of a downer.

[Amy]

Yeah. The greatest generation was 1901 and 1927. So the.

[Kat]

Anybody I petitioned to change the name of that generation.

[Amy]

Beta.

[Kat]

I know, but, like, to the better generation.

[Amy]

That's what you can call it.

[Kat]

Be, like, better.

[Amy]

Yeah, the better.

[Kat]

And then the next one will be middle. Yeah, it's Beta.

[Amy]

You're like, no.

[Kat]

I just feel like. I mean, no shade to any Betas. I appreciate those kinds of people, but I just think that that's like sending a message, you know?

[Amy]

Well, like, the Alphas get to be Alpha. Yeah. Like, they're told all the time, like, I'm Alpha.

[Kat]

Well, and I think going back to what you said earlier about, like, the things that you don't know that you believe because you were told to believe them or because you really believe those things, it's. If you're told you're this, then you live into that name. And I don't want these people just. If they want to be that way, that's fine, and that's who they are. That is great. We need all kinds of people. But if you're just told that you are going to be this way, do.

[Amy]

You feel like now this has nothing to do with your generation, but do you feel like you're an Alpha personality.

[Kat]

In certain areas, but also, like. No. Why you look at me like that?

[Amy]

Well, I get. Because, I don't know, I'm just thinking of, like, how you would define yourself and when it comes to Alpha.

[Kat]

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't describe myself that way because I also can be, like, really shy and insecure.

[Amy]

Yeah. So I'm not Alpha.

[Kat]

I don't really want to be in charge of things or neither.

[Amy]

I want to follow People delegate to me all day long.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You want to delegate to me, and I'll get it done.

[Kat]

I'll do it really well. I like. This is what I like. I like having somebody to go ask the questions to, and I like having. I like that I. I don't like having to be the person that's, like, the final step, you know, where things fall on me. Because, one, I don't want the responsibility of that, whether it goes good or bad, but I like the security of going to somebody else.

[Amy]

And I think I want to clarify. Like, at work, if I'm told that I need to do something, like, I like that delegation, and I'm going to do it. If I'm also in charge and I'm being told to do it, then that's where I struggle, because it's like, well, I get to. I'm in charge. I know there's something I have to do, but, like, I get to decide. So then I'm gonna lean more towards, like, resisting it for some reason.

[Kat]

Well, yeah, because, you know, I don't like being told what to do. But, yeah, I think it. Yeah, it's in different. I don't like being put in a corner and being forced to do something, especially if it doesn't align with something I believe in. But I do like having to fall back on. I like security. Yeah.

[Amy]

Same net. Yeah. I guess I was just. It's weird. Like, I have two sides of me where I want to be delegated and told what to do, because that's very helpful work. Like, I. Like, I. I can shine in that. Like, I don't want to be in charge. Charge. But then, like, I mean, Shannon's in here, and so we work on a lot of stuff together, and she may have, like, things that she knows I need to do, and then I'll be like. I'll resist it. Some of it. I'll be like, meh. It depends on the day. But, like, I. That's where I struggle with, like, delegating.

[Kat]

Like, don't.

[Amy]

No, don't. I don't want to do that right now. So I'm gonna. Now I'm an alpha.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

But typically.

[Kat]

So I think that we're. What would be in the middle of A and B?

[Amy]

A and a half or albas? No, there is no. It goes from A to B. I know.

[Kat]

I'm mixing them together.

[Amy]

Oh, a, B.

[Kat]

We're abs.

[Amy]

I don't know. I don't know that there's anything. Okay, well, there you go. I think we should in there.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

We'Re good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kat]

We hope that you have the day you need to have. Bye.

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