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So certified to operate by Chevron Ladies and fellas, we just follow in the
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spirit where it tell us from the
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real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between.
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Sometimes the best thing you could do do it just out and feel things.
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This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.
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Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.
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And I'm Kat.
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And my feeling of the day is thankful. Happy, joyful. So much gratitude for whoever invented the yam pellet for testosterone.
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My feeling of the day is grateful because you were in a fabulous mood. And that isn't to say that you're usually in a bad mood, but, like, it's elevated.
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Well, let's be honest. I have been feeling a little bit met lately. And I. With that, meh, I was bummed because I've done the hormone replacement therapy stuff and they said I was going to feel fabulous. But when I first got my testosterone pellet, I also had low iron and low vitamin D. So there were other things to fix with that. And now I got my blood work done last week. My vitamin D is good. My iron is good. And those iron treatments, they wore me out.
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Oh, that's.
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And that was during that first pellet. So. And then by the time I got situated with my vitamin D and my iron, that first pellet was dissolving in my body. And so then that was lowering because I just went in and got my new pellet earlier. I guess it was last week. Early last week, I got my new pillet. So it's had time to. To dispense some testosterone in my body. And that's gotta be it because I just feel bad.
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Better.
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I just.
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You're glowing. Thank you.
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You're glowing.
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So, question about the pellet. I know we talked about this last time, but you showed a video on your Instagram 1 to 10. How bad does that hurt?
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Well, they do numb you, so she gives me a shot of lidocaine and
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so that's what you're feeling.
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Something else. She. This time she said she put some epinephrine in there. And I don't. Not a nurse. I don't know why you would do that. But I asked her why I was feeling so jittery from head to toe and felt a little. And she goes, oh, I believe she said epinephrine. She goes, I'll leave that out next time. I don't know what it does. Something with the blood vessels that helps the disbursement of the lidocaine, maybe. I don't know what I'm talking about. Don't quote me. But she's. Whatever that concoction was that she added, she goes, I'll leave that out next time because your body must not like that. And I was like, yeah, I Don't. I don't like the way I'm feeling right now.
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A little, but now you do.
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Jittery. So she cut and then from there she makes a little incision and inserts the pellet.
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Did you get a stitch?
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And I don't feel it.
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Did she stitch you back up? Yeah, like a full.
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Yeah, I guess they dissolve and then there's a patch and I have to keep the patch on for four days and then I just can't take a bath or do any squats for the first four days. So I'm past that now and it's looking good. Like. And we alternated. So my first pellet was in my right upper buttocks and my. This one is now on my left. And when I have to go back, which is going to be about every four months, to get replenished, I'll just alternate so that way you don't build up scar tissue. So thank you for
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this. Forever.
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I don't know. I guess.
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Okay.
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Do we do it forever? Unless I can naturally start making. Making testosterone, which I am trying to eat more foods that promote that. And doing my workouts. I'm about to get. I'm about to commit to the weights because she, she said that's so.
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What about Pilates Princess?
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I know. Well, my Pilates Princess membership, my year that I bought is going to be up soon, so I have to make a choice. No, that was last fall.
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No.
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Yes.
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No, it was not.
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Cat, it was.
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I feel like you just were talking about that.
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No, it was last fall.
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Time flies when you're doing Pilates.
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It. Well, I, I think we're. Yeah. I mean, look, you're about to give birth to a baby. I. I think I signed up for Pilates before you got pregnant.
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You think?
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Yes.
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Okay, well, so you're going to do weights. What are you going to do?
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Well, that's the thing. I don't know, cuz I don't have a gym. I think I'm going to need to do like free weights. I don't have a gym. My friend is visiting a gym today and she said she was going to report back to me the vibe. And I'm like, okay, yeah, let me know. Because if, if she goes, I can maybe go. She does Pilates with me. Actually, she's the Pilates Princess as well. But she is in the same boat as me where she needs some more weights and so she may start to transfer over more to the gym. And she's about my age and if I could have. I don't know. And she's like, at my level.
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I think what works for you, though, is a class where you don't have to think about anything. So maybe does this gym have classes too?
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Yeah, but the class needs to like lift. Like I used to do body pump back in the day and I, I did that three times a week at Gold's Gym. I was body pump, step class. I was the queen of the classes. But I don't know, I think also being tied to a class time, I think I just need to pop into the gym, do my weight exercises and pop out and I could get some weights at home. But I think I'm going to need heavy stuff. And I don't like, like, like a 50. Like a 50 pound. My heaviest dumbbell at home is 15 pounds.
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What are you doing with a 50?
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That makes me sore. Well, I don't know yet, but I'm going to build up to that. I imagine I'm just already acting as if I'm that strong.
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Okay.
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Because the doctor did say I, I need to prioritize if I. Again, when it comes to building your own testosterone, I need to prioritize working those major muscle groups with some heavy weights.
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Yeah.
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And not a ton of reps, but just getting that in. So anyway, that's just, that's where I am on my hormone journey. What is your feeling of the day? Oh, is it just grateful?
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Because I feel it is grateful. That actually brightened my day because I was feeling a little conflicted this morning because I had to do something that I didn't. I kind of liked doing it, but I kind of didn't like doing it. So you've been to my office before. We only have like six parking spots and there's sometimes three more of us working, so that could. Us plus clients. That's six people. Whatever. Well, they built a hotel behind our building and the hotel has parking garage, but for some reason they always park in our parking lot. To the point one time somebody brought a portable grill and was like having a barbecue in our parking lot because
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they're staying at the hotel.
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It's a extended stay hotel too. Yeah. So, like people have been doing weird things in our parking lot. And I've gone over there like five times. The people next door have gone up. I've had all these conversations. I've been trying to be so nice people because also I don't want people to have to pay money to get their car from a. Like, that's the worst. I had my car towed a lot in college and It's a waste of money. However, I towed some cars today.
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You did? You called and had them to you. Wow.
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It was. It was actually the second time I did this. The first time, I was so mad because the car parked not even in a parking spot. It was just parked in the middle of our parking lot, like, blocking. So I was like, I don't feel bad at all, because you didn't. You didn't even park in a spot. And there's signs everywhere that says, if you park here, you will be towed. But I think they're just like, yeah, right. So that one I didn't really feel that bad about, but I towed two cars, and they were huge. Our parking lot is small. It was like a Denali truck, which is huge. And. And then a lifted Ford Expedition. Like, lifted high.
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Need a ladder to get those Expeditions are. Well, what were the bigger ones? The Excursion. So in college, my dad. Or when I was in college, my dad had a Ford Excursion, and we were taking a road trip somewhere, so I borrowed that so me and all my friends could fit.
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You park it.
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Well, that's the thing. I just had to find a spot, and it got towed.
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Oh, no.
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And I was like, I had to call my dad, and I'm out of town. I. And to get your car out, you have to have cash.
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Okay.
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So. But so then I was like, I have to find an atm. I didn't have my debit card. I was.
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It was.
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Where'd you park it?
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Did you park it in a place that said, if? Literally right in front of the car, there's a sign right in front of that says, if you park here, you will be towed.
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Yeah, I mean. I mean, it was very obvious that. How we met, how we parked, and we. So I was like, oh, maybe it was just. Kat, you just told some college kids on a road trip, and now they have to call their dad.
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But. Okay. You acted shocked when I did that.
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Yeah, because I'm like, wow, that I would. That takes.
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Like. I called the tow company cojones. Yes. Wow. So I feel good for you. And also, I'm like, it's. I feel I've been hot on. On the word respectful and disrespectful lately. Like, I feel like that's been a big thing for me lately, and that. What Is what came up with me yesterday when I. That car has been there for over 24 hours. That's the other thing. It didn't just get there.
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So have you thought about. Well, finish your thing about disrespectful I
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was just gonna say I felt like they were disrespecting me.
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Yeah. Even though it wasn't directly at you, but, like, the signs.
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This is our business and we need this spot.
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So have you thought about leaving, like, a review on the hotel? Something like that? I saw a really, really funny review online. It made me laugh out loud. Let me see if I can pull it up. Because what you would do is just leave a review. Or you could go talk to them and make you. You've talked to hotel.
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Yes. Multiple times.
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Okay.
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The first time they were nice. The second time they were so, so rude. And the people next door have gone multiple times over there.
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Okay. I found the review. A woman named Diana left a two star Google review of Outback Steakhouse after her husband drove to pick up their takeout order and the restaurant forgot to include the blooming onion. Her first review said two stars. I'm absolutely livid. My husband drove all the way to pick up our Outback order and you people forgot the blooming onion? Forgot in all cabs. That was the only thing I wanted. Minutes later, she left A second review. 4.5 stars. My. My fat husband ate the blooming onion in the car and lied about it. I'm sorry. I don't know how to delete reviews. So her reviews were back to back, but it wasn't their fault. And so now I'm picturing you, like, leaving your review. I mean, it won't be that your fat husband ate something, but you could just start leaving reviews and be like,
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they let people park wherever they want.
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These people are disrespectful.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But it's.
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I think it's a hotel. Stayers go like, yeah, yeah.
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People that stay here are disrespectful.
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You don't want to be that one of those people.
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And then later you meet, like, a really nice person that's staying there and you're like, 4.5 stars. I actually just met someone that was super kind and respectful, but I don't know how to delete the other reviews.
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So I have PTSD with reviews. I think in my life, I have written one review that was not positive. I'll write a positive review if it has to be exceptional for me to do that or if, like, somebody asked me to and you can tell, like, they're asking because it's going to help their job. I got a tattoo years and years ago at a tattoo parlor. And this was before all those, like, fine line tattoos and, like, all those cutesy tattoo places were, like, a thing. So I went to, like, a grunt. Like a not grungy, but it was like a tattoo place where they do legit tattoos. Not like, I just got this be still on my wrist, you know? So I had a bad experience. I just felt like they were annoyed with me. And when my friend came with me, I think she just got, like, a little cross, you know, we were just like girls doing something crazy. And I think they were just annoyed that they had to do it. But I'm like, we're paying customers. What? Nobody else is here. Anyway, I had a really bad experience, and so I wrote a review because I felt disrespected, but I didn't know. And I put time and effort into this. I didn't know that if I posted a review on Yelp, it would also cross post to my Facebook.
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So they knew exactly who you were.
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So everybody that I'm Facebook friends with saw it.
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Oh, my gosh, You're a Karen.
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If this was when Facebook was really cool, this was probably over 10 years ago. Like, people were still using Facebook.
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Well, some people still do use it as cool. Like, it's their main. It depends on your generation.
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Yeah, it was when my generation was still using Facebook. So I didn't realize it posted to Facebook until I got notifications that people were liking my review. And I was mortified. And what I learned from that was, katherine, be nice and speak kind words, because if you don't, karma will get you.
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Mm.
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So I deleted that immediately. So I am scared. I feel like if I post a bad review somewhere else because I get like that. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna post a review about these people, blah, blah, blah. And then I'm like, no, I'm not.
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I just pulled up some of our reviews on Feeling Things. Oh, gosh. And we have. We've got a five star right next to a one star. So I'll share both to even it out. You want the one star first?
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Yes. Okay, well, good.
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It's not even about you. About me?
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Amy.
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Amy. I feel like sometimes she just talks to your. Her own voice. Tough. Listen. Actually, no, I'm talking because this my job to be here and talk with Kat. But clearly, clearly, they. They think I have nothing to say. Okay. Talking just to talk. The other review is, I freaking love this pod. Oh. Literally, when I get out of the shower, I write on the mirror fog. Have the day you need to have. That's cute. Oh, wait, there's more. She wrote more. There's A more button. So I thought that was it. Amy, you're such an idol. I literally had an essay I had to write about a person, and I was gonna pick you, but unfortunately my teacher said, pick someone we have a book on in our school, so. Lame cat. Congrats on your baby. I love listening to the updates. It literally makes my day when I hear how healthy the baby is and how much it's evolving through its pregnancy. You're going to be an amazing mother. Recommending to my friends, literally. Love y'. All. Okay, I'm done. Amy, you're an amazing mother, too. She said P. S. She want me to feel left out.
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Balances it out.
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I mean, I don't know if we've ever read Gone over these before, but those are just the two. When I pulled them up, those two were right next to each other. I didn't search for them or anything, but that one. Then I was like, her name.
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Wait a second. What? This should I. Is this a thing? That should be a thing. Like, I kind of. No, like, I like that. How do I say this? I kind of like that it posted my review to my Facebook because it was like, catherine, you can't hide behind a keyboard. You know, you can't just comment mean things. Not that I was mean. I was just honest. You can't comment mean things on somebody's Instagram and then, like, just act like you're, like, a great person. So what if you posted reviews. They had to show somewhere, like, on your public forum somewhere. How do you. The world would be a better place, don't you think?
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Probably. But then people would just find loopholes in that and, like, they'd make, like, a fake. Yes.
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Okay.
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Because that's. For some people.
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That would work.
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This is their hobby.
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That's fair.
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Writing reviews, whether positive or negative, which I will say I'm a taker when it comes to that. Like, I want to read other people's reviews, but I don't always take time to leave reviews. Yeah. And as much as I appreciated that positive review, you'd think how good that felt. Like, I should go leave positive reviews on things that I enjoy, because that would be helpful.
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Yeah.
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But some people being negative on the reviews, like, whether it's Yelp or wherever else you can leave reviews, like, they want to be negative, and they will figure it out. Which, speaking of hobbies, I do have a way that you can easily find hobbies if you're struggling in that department. And it's not about necessarily finding more hobbies. It's about hobbies that fit into certain categories that are going to contribute to your overall well being. Like the best version of you. Okay, so you want to know the categories?
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Yeah, I wanted the categories. I'm one person. I don't need any more hobbies.
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You do not. You do not struggle with hobbies. But I think some people do or they think that some stuff they're doing doesn't count as a hobby, and it does. So they feel like I'm like, hiking, walking, reading. They don't.
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What would it be if it wasn't a hobby?
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Just like, I don't know, part of their daily activity. But hiking. Hiking is a hobby. Yeah, I think I struggle with that, counting it as like a hobby. But if I look at my categories, see, this will help you with your whole hobby planning. You need a wellness hobby. Pick one that feels doable even on your worst day. Walking, Pilates, stretching, etc. Boom. Check. Wellness hobby 2.
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Wellness hobbies.
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Pilates princess. Soon to be weightlifting warrior or something like that. Now everything that comes out of my mouth, I'm like, am I contributing something or am I speaking just to speak? Am I talking just to talk?
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You're talking because it's your literal job. And if you don't talk, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
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Okay, next hobby category. Creative. So pick something that's zero pressure around it. Journaling, cooking, decorating, et cetera. That falls into the creative category. Making bracelets. Adult coloring.
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Pottery.
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Pottery. Something like that. Solitude. I never thought of this as being a hobby category, but it's important. Quiet evenings, time in nature, meditation, gardening. Anything that slows you down can fall into the solitude category. And solitude is different than loneliness or being alone, right?
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Yeah, it's like it will it's chosen one in it. But also, as I'm was listening to you say that, I was thinking, like, that is something I think a lot of people would feel before hearing maybe something like this, like, sadness about that I have to do this by myself, but I can choose to do it by myself, with intention, and I can feel really good.
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Yes.
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You don't need a buddy for everything.
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No. And it's good to recharge and get comfortable with being by yourself. And for some people, that's hard. For me, easy peasy. Let's see. Connection is the next category. So this would be a hobby that is like a class, a weekly coffee thing. Don't put that pressure on yourself. If weekly sounds too scary, it could be biweekly, monthly, A wellness community. Oh, like me, the. The gym I'm about to join. Now, that would tackle wellness and community.
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Yeah.
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If you're taking a class, but you
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have to talk to people.
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True. And being consistent with that is more important than, like, how intense you tackle it. Again, don't do something like this every day, but just be consistent on your calendar with it.
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Do you speak to people in your Pilates class, or do you go in and out and you're just like, in
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my own kind of world, I speak to the people that work there. They say, hey, thanks for coming. And I say, thank you. I try to always tell the teacher, that was a really good class.
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What if it wasn't?
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Let's see. What's the last thing they said to me? Oh, I know. Last class I went to, they said, are you coming to the pool party on Sunday? And I was like, no.
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So that's not your community. You've not made a friend there?
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Well, my friend that is now looking at gyms, she's my friend there and.
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But you didn't make her there.
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No, I knew her before, but, like, not well. I got to know her better at Pilates. She's an acquaintance that turned into a friend because of Pilates.
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Okay.
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Like, at Pilates, we exchanged numbers and started texting.
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Okay, well, so I had have an interesting, interesting experience with community and. And fitness classes. Because I worked in fitness for so long, it was my job to, like, talk. I mean, I liked it, but it was my job to talk to people. And a lot of the people where I worked became my friends, whether it was other instructors or people like regular worker outers, you know, what do you call them?
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Yeah, classmates, fellow spinners
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or whatever. And I made some of my best friends there. But when I quit teaching, there was nothing that felt better than going to a workout class where nobody knew me. I could look however I wanted. I could be in a bad mood. I could be in a good mood. I could take the corner. Like, I could be hide. It felt so good. And so now when I go to a class, I don't want to talk to anybody.
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Well, hear me out on this. I feel like you still tackle the community part or the connection part. Ish. And the solitude part, because you're amongst other people doing something. So I think our bodies receive that. As I'm in community, I'm doing this class collectively, but I'm also over here in my own little corner. So you just.
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You.
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You knocked out two categories in one trip. Because, again, it's not how many, it's it's the. It's the categories that we're trying to focus on.
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Are you saying we should have one in each category?
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I mean, that's the goal.
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Okay.
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But I would say you could start with just two and try to work your way up. But if you could just look at these five categories and be like, oh, okay, or every week you alternate, oh, this is my wellness hobby leak Hobby Week. Or this is my connection Hobby Week.
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Yeah. I just wonder. My whole point in telling that story is really, like, I wonder if I never taught in fitness classes, if I would show up differently in them now.
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Yeah.
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Because now I kind of got burnt out by having to always be on all the time that now when I go, I don't want to talk to people. I mean, unless I know the person. You know, I don't want to make new friends there. I just want to go in and go out. But I wonder if that would be different because that's not technically my personality.
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No, you're very social. I met a friend at Body Pump. Circling back to that, which. I know it's been a minute since I've gone to a body pump class, but this is back when I moved to North Carolina when Ben was in the Air Force and we had to move to this tiny town. Technically, Fort Bragg, which is where he was, is in Fayetteville, but we lived about 45 minutes from there in Southern Pines. Really cute, small town.
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I thought Fayetteville was. Is there two.
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There's a Fayetteville, North Carolina.
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Mm.
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It's Pope Air Force Base and Fort Bragg, but those kind of merged because he was in the Air Force, but he also worked for a joint unit, so sometimes that's confusing to people. If you speak military, it's like, wait, he's in the Air Force? Why was he at Fort Bragg? But that's a. He was part of a joint unit, so he worked with all the branches. Even though he was Air Force, his unit had everybody. Joint special ops situation. So I had no friends. I moved there. He had. I had his friends, like, yeah, his military friends and their wives, but I had none that I had made myself. So I joined Gold's Gym. And there was this one girl at Body Pump. She looked like we could be friends. So I went up to her after class and said, I'm new here. I don't have any friends. And do you, like. Do you want to do something? Because you look like we could be friends.
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Is that really.
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Yes. And they became our friends. Our. So her husband ended up being in a special ops army type situation and we would go. So we did double dates. Our husbands had plenty to talk about. We had plenty to talk about. We worked out together, we went, we cooked together, we went on walks together. In fact, a couple weeks ago she was going to visit Nashville. I haven't seen her in forever. I moved away from North Carolina in 2012, so it's been a minute, but we still keep in touch over text every once in a while and she was going to try to come take a trip to Nashville but ended up not working out. But I met her at Body Pump and I just went up cold, cold caller.
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But you would never do that today.
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Probably not because you have sex or I was desperate.
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I was like, okay, you wouldn't do that because you, you have friends now or you wouldn't do that because like that's intimidating to you?
B
Well, I have my own community here now, but I think with him being my ex husband being deployed, I mean he would be gone for 60 to 90 days at a time. So it was like I had to really lock in or what was I going to do? I want to tell you about nefi, the only needle free epinephrine nasal spray for those who weigh 33 pounds or more. It's used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Nephi works as well as a needle injector and delivers the same trusted epinephrine. It's designed to be safe and easy to use at the first sign of symptoms, so in a high stress moment, your child or someone else can act quickly to treat an allergic reaction even if you're not there. Nefi is also small, discreet and easy to carry, including in a backpack, lunchbox or sports bag, so your child is prepared anywhere the day takes them. Pay as little as $0 for at least four Nefi devices, two packs through the copay Savings Program with commercial insurance if eligible, patients should not pay more than $199 for NEFI. If you have medical conditions or take certain medicines, your condition may worsen. Tell your doctor about nasal heart, thyroid or kidney issues, high blood pressure, Parkinson's, diabetes, if you're pregnant or breastfeeding and all medications. Side effects include nasal discomfort, headache, runny nose, SH and throat irritation. These are not all side effects. Does your child need a new epinephrine prescription or refill? Don't wait. Ask a doctor about needle free Nefy today. Visit nephy.com to learn more. That's N-E-F-F-Y.com I love my dog, but her breath not so much. But I found something that works for both of us. I give her a Greenies dental treat every single day and she cannot get enough. And here's what won me over. These are more than just tasty treats. Greenies dental treats are an easy way to give your dog clinically proven oral care and are designed to support the four areas that vets check. The plaque, tartar, gums and breath. The unique texture cleans down to the gum line to support cleaner teeth after 28 days when fed daily. They're a vet recommended dental treat. Made with natural ingredients plus vitamins, minerals and nutrients. Rawhide free, easy to chew and digest. And the unique flexible texture makes them bendable so they won't snap. Honestly, Greenies dental treats are the best part of my dog Cara's day. Start your dog's oral care routine today, including a daily Greenies dental treat and turn health into something pets can't help but love. Greenies make health a treat. Shop now@greeneast.com your home should feel like you. And if it doesn't yet, well, it could be a budget problem, which I totally get. But have you checked out Wayfair? Because they can fix that. I just found the best tile for my laundry room, which I've been on a tile hunt for a while now and I was looking at this other tile shop and then it occurred to me, maybe Wayfair has the tile that I want. Not only did they have the tile that I want, but I got it on sale as well and I just got it in and I cannot wait for it, for my tile guy to come lay it down. It is going to change the vibe of my laundry room. Wayfair has saved me tons of times, not just with tile like light fixtures, mirrors, rugs, plants, they have it all. Whatever you need to change your vibe, give Wayfair a shot. You need seating for your outdoor patio. You want grills for the summer, appliances, storage, lighting, rugs, decor. One place, everything you need. No bouncing between stores. And They've got over 20 million five star reviews. You're not blind. Blind, you can see real customers, real homes, real feedback before anything hits your cart. Ready to upgrade your home for way less? Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home and get your space ready for less. That's W A Y-F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every home. Ladies, if you're in that phase where your body's just, you know, doing new things, sleep's weird. Energy's weird. Cravings also weird. You're not alone. It's totally normal. Menopause and perimenopause just means your body needs a little support, and sprouts makes that support easier so you can start feeling more like you. Tons of fresh organic produce or fiber, sprouts, protein and creatine to keep your muscles and bones strong and your energy up. And supplements that can help you manage mood shifts. So whether it's perimenopause, menopause, or any other health journey, you. It's easier at sprouts. Farmers market.
A
Was your life kind of like army wives?
B
I mean, we weren't on base.
A
Okay.
B
Th. Those wives were on base, right?
A
Yeah, that's how I imagine it always being.
B
I mean, occasionally I went to some of the spouse stuff, but not often, because a lot of times it was in Fayetteville, and I would have to drive the 45 minutes. I mean, people could live. When you're stationed there, if you didn't live on base, there were so many surrounding areas. It was very.
A
Would you want to live on.
B
The net was wide.
A
Would you want to live on an army base or what do they call that base?
B
There's posts. There's base. No, but I could have done it, I do think. Would have given you the part of it. I do think the community part of it would have been cool and kind of easy to just, like, have. I mean. And some of the houses were actually really, really cute. Yeah. I did go to he's. And, well, he's. I don't know if he's still in, but Admiral McRaven. So fun fact, if you watch that movie Zero Dark Thirty. Is that what it's called about the Osama bin Laden thing?
A
Is he in it?
B
Well, why I'm telling this is I was at the movies, and his character. He's not in it, but a character playing him because it's a true story. And I was like, I've been to his house. I did go to his house.
A
Okay.
B
And I remember Ben telling me it was a wives thing. And I remember him telling me it was a big deal, but I didn't register how big of a deal. Like, I was just like, oh, yeah, okay. Wives Gathering. He's like, yeah, but this is at, like, the boss's house. And I'm like, okay. And see, Admiral, that's like a general. So Admiral is head of the Navy, and generals are head of other parts. So this is, like, really high up. But I don't. I was new I was very green to the whole thing. And I'm just like, you know, showing up. And then there's pictures, like, on the fireplace mantel of him with, like, Condoleezza Rice. I'm like, okay. I guess he's probably pretty important, like Colin Powell or Colin Powell. Colon. Why do I say colon? I think colon would be thinking about your colon. Thinking about my colon.
A
I think that's pretty wild because we actually had an offline conversation about this recently of, like, what would it take for you to up and move your life for a romantic partner? Remember, you did it. It seems like no questions asked, no big deal. Where were you living in Texas before?
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. Didn't know anybody. You moved to a similar place that I asked you. Like, middle of nowhere kind of. Well, is it middle of nowhere?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, flying to Raleigh, and it was probably a little over an hour drive from Raleigh.
A
You almost gave up your job.
B
Yeah, I did quit and then said, no. Bobby said he came back. We had a going away party for me and everything. And then he came back. He's like, hey, we're gonna put a studio in your house. And I was like, really? And then when Ben would deploy some of his deployments, I would go back home and work out of the studio in Austin and stay with my mom. But not all the time. Yeah, that's why I needed to make friends.
A
Yeah. I just feel like that's a huge maybe. I. I think when I was younger, I would do something like that. But when you get older and you have friends in community and a life and the da, da, da, it feels like a bigger ask.
B
And back then, like, podcasting wasn't as big. The radio show wasn't as syndicated. Now I think we're on in Raleigh, but the time that I moved there and was recording out of my house, we weren't on air near there, and people weren't aware of what we did. Well, I don't care if they knew who I was. It was more so like, what do you do? And I was like, oh, I'm part of a radio show, but it's an Austin. They just knew I'm recording out of my garage or up in my attic every day. And so they would be trying to explain to people, and they're like, I don't know. She records her. She works in her attic. She records herself in her attic every day. We don't know who she's talking to. And I'm like, no, no, no. It's like a legit, real job. Like, I'm. I'm on air. Sure, Amy. Yeah, sure. That's when we were pop, though.
A
Yeah.
B
We weren't country, so the show was. Hadn't. Had. Hadn't grown the way and that. It did after we moved to Nashville. Anyway, back to the hobbies. You've got one more category after Connection. I thought we were.
A
Sorry, that's my bad.
B
We've only hit four. Expand would be the fifth category. So think of expanding your mind, like, learning. So that would be reading, studying, learning a language, writing, podcasts, small little daily deposits.
A
Okay, so, guys, if you're struggling with, like, I don't know, this just maybe had to have a memory. But if you're struggling to find things to do, hobbies, whatever you do, you do. All of these people do this stuff.
B
Well, if you're listening to us right now, we're doing your hobby.
A
Yeah, we're expanding your mind.
B
You are. You are learning.
A
So. Okay. One time, I was at a wedding with Patrick. It was my first time going somewhere, like, with his family, and we were sitting at the. The wedding was lovely. I had a great time. We were sitting at our table, our assigned table, and I was sitting next to, like. I don't know who it was, like, what it was, his family. But he was asking me. He asked me, like, what do I like to do? Or, like, what do I do outside of work? Or something like that. And I just was like, well. And I was like, thinking, you know, I hate when people ask that question. I think everybody hates that question. I was getting to my answer, and he just goes, well, you're great to talk to. Or he said like, well, you're a great conversationalist, or something like that. And I was just like, I think Patrick stepped in because I was like, I'm trying to have a conversation with you. He just basically told me that I was boring. And I was like, okay, it's nice to meet you, too.
B
Cool.
A
I love your family.
B
Well, now you can have out of the gate be like, well, I really try to handle the five categories for all the hobbies.
A
Yeah.
B
So, you know, for example, and then you list the categories, and then I'll
A
say, so give me what you do in each category.
B
Yeah, like, what do you do for. Well, what do you do to be creative?
A
Ever say to somebody who, like, oh, you're bad at conversation?
B
I would say, well, you're rude.
A
I think I was more so, like, I. I don't know if he was trying to be funny, but when you're not, you're the outsider. I'm not part of this family. I don't know these people. Anyway, obviously it's still bothering me.
B
I hate when funny flops does happen to you. Well, I think it's happened to all of us where you feel like you're saying something kind of funny or sarcastic that's going to hit and let's go ha ha ha. And then it's like, oh, either. And then it comes across as rude or feelings. Yeah. And then you're like, well, dang. Yeah, it's not what I needed. So what were you all at a wedding or. Yeah, at dinner. And then anytime I think of like you and Patrick at a wedding, it makes me think of me at your rehearsal dinner or your wedding because Yalls wedding was so fun. And how I took a random date to your.
A
I really wish you would have brought to the wedding.
B
I know. I think the wedding would have been a little bit too much. And he wasn't random. It was just our second date ever and I met him on Hinge.
A
Random. It was just the second time we
B
hung out and it was at your rehearsal dinner and I had to give like a little speech. And so then I said from the speech, I'm like, everybody, can we give a round of applause because Kat and Patrick met on hinge and I'm here with my hinge date and this is our second date.
A
If.
B
If that would have worked out. It felt like a little rom com.
A
So good. Yeah.
B
Yeah. Like a cute moment. But it didn't work out.
A
And my friends asked about him this past weekend.
B
Oh, really?
A
They were like, what happened to the guy that Amy brought to your rehearsal dinner? And I was like, oh, let me tell you. But they were like, he was so nice.
B
He is so cute. He is cute.
A
And they're like, I wonder if like because they were trying to. They were talking about trying to set up another friend in the same age range, I think. And I was like, I don't know if he's looking for what your friend is looking for, so.
B
But yeah, like, I think he's looking to hang.
A
He's looking to come to rehearsal dinners.
B
Yeah, he's down for that.
A
He wants such a good sport. Yeah, I would do that too. Prop. Well, what I. If somebody asked me on a second date to go to rehearsal dinner, what would I think?
B
I mean, I think you would be a good sport about it if now. Now that I know his personality, I totally get why he said.
A
Yeah.
B
Why he down to do it.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
That's just like intense. You met a lot of people and you didn't even know a lot of the people that.
B
No, like, I think he left there having more conversations with people than I did. You know, I saw something that they do it in Finland at grocery stores where they've got, you know, the baskets that are smaller that you put on your arm.
A
A grocery basket.
B
Well, but not the cart that you push, but like the little grocery basket.
A
Okay.
B
The little basket. And they have pink ones. And the pink ones signify that you're single and you would like to meet somebody. So you can go and grab a pink basket. And then someone may come up and start talking to you. And so it's the opportunity for a little meet cute at the grocery store.
A
Okay.
B
And you don't have to do the dating app or the awkward, you know, oh, are they wearing a wedding ring? The only problem I could see if someone didn't know this and they accidentally grabbed a pink basket, not knowing, surely they're labeled. Yeah, I mean, I think there was a sign. But then what if you just like, see a pink basket yout're like, oh, I need a basket real quick. Like, I'll grab that. And then you're married. So I just thought, wow, look at Finland getting creative and helping out their communities.
A
Would you do that?
B
I mean, maybe because this is my.
A
This is where my thoughts process went. Maybe this was. Is my own trauma. But I was like, well, how many times would I let myself pick the pink basket and then not get spoken to?
B
They're like, you're here a lot. She keeps walking around the store with that pink basket.
A
But it's more so like, okay, I've. I've done this 15 times. Nobody's ever asked me out. Should I just stop signifying, hey, everybody, I'm single. Talk to me. Because if you pick the pink basket, you're saying, I want somebody to talk to me. Like, that is pretty vulnerable, I think.
B
Yeah.
A
Versus it's a law. And they're like, if you're single, you must use the pink basket. Then I would feel. I wish I would ra. I don't want them. I don't want them to. That seems very bad. And I kind of would like it because if it was the law, then it takes out the vulnerability. And it's just like, well, I have to have the pink basket. So I. I'm not really putting myself out there, But I am by law versus if it's just by choice, then you're saying, I want somebody to talk to me. Then if somebody doesn't it's kind of like, want, want why I'm trying nobody. You know what I mean? That's a little bit of my brain.
B
Two relationship things have popped in my head while we're talking about this one. I am listening to a book called Yours truly right now, and it is so cute. Speaking of cute little relationship things, if you were looking for something to download on Audible or even if I have the physical copy too, because I listen and I read. But I was explaining this to Kat earlier when I. Because you're always looking for something to listen to and read too. And this one is just so stinking cute. And I love that the narrators, they have a girl narrator for her part and a guy narrator because sometimes the actor will do both voices and you're
A
like, that's what I'm experiencing right now.
B
She's trying to be a man and she talks like that. And then it's just like, gives weird vibes. This. The actors are so good in the. Are they called actors or voice actors? They are so good. And I want this situation. They are doctors, though, and I'm not a doctor.
A
How did they meet?
B
They're doctors. I don't want to give anything away.
A
Oh, okay.
B
But they have lunch in the supply closet and I'm like, I want to have lunch in the supply, not a break room.
A
Or are they doing other things in the supply?
B
They're just having lunch. But you'll see when you get to know the characters personalities, I really want you to listen to it or read it.
A
Okay.
B
It's such a cute book. That came to mind because it's relationship related. Also, my friend is in a situation right now where she has been hanging out with this guy a little bit, but she feels as though she's been really clear about expectations. And he still texts her all the time. And she showed me her phone the other day. She goes, how many times should you text someone before you just chill out on it? And they're not replying.
A
She's not wanting this.
B
She doesn't want anything. She's fine with just being friends. He clearly wants more just friends.
A
Okay.
B
And they're in each other's lives for various reasons, but she just wants to, like, keep it cool. And, like, if they want to hang out every once in a while or just as friends, their kids want to play whatever. Just as friends.
A
Okay.
B
She doesn't want anything more. Why do you keep clarifying?
A
Because you're saying, like, she's cool if they hang out. It's like, well, if they started dating and now she's like, I'm cool to hang out. Is he gonna think, like, you want a casual relationship or you just, okay,
B
well, let's not muddy the water with all that. It's really the. How many times do you think someone will text without getting response? And they just keep bringing the same text? Which just kind of makes me think of Hinge Day guy that I brought to your rehearsal dinner. Like, some guys are just like, whatever. But she showed me her phone, and he had texted her, and this is days worth. Like, multiple times in a row. Just things like, you know, just did the laundry or, like, drive. You know, driving. Wow. This weather, you know, just. But. But she's not engaging at all. But then 12 hours later, he'll be like, wow, I'm tired. You know, like, just. He's trying.
A
They're dating.
B
He's trying to connect, and she's not responding. And she's like, at what point is he gonna get the hint? And then eventually she feels like she has to respond. So this is weird, but she does a very platonic answer. And she'll engage with one thing, but then the cycle starts back up to where it's multiple texts where she's not responding. And then she'll reply, and she's already
A
said, I just want to be friends.
B
Yes. And so maybe this is his way of being friends. But she could tell he definitely wants more. So I was just curious of, like, at what point does he get the hint of, like, maybe I should stop texting this person?
A
Right.
B
Because he's still hitting her up.
A
So I would think that a triple text.
B
I mean, it was five in a row.
A
Triple text, to me, is really putting yourself out there. Depending on what the texts say, like, sometimes it is appropriate to text. I mean, I'm saying this for myself because sometimes I look at my text and it's like, catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine. Five is a lot. Especially if somebody has said, I'm not interested in you in this way. My grace for him is what you said. Maybe he is just trying to be normal and, like, he's trying to, like, build a platonic friendship with her. And these sound like platonic texts, like, right. Watching my car.
B
It's not like, I miss you. Yeah. No.
A
So maybe he's trying to do that, and he just doesn't realize how it's coming off. So my. She's not asking for my advice, but my advice would be to just, like, what she's like every once in a while, respond, but don't continuously feed that. But also if there's something that you want to respond to, respond to that.
B
I want to tell you about Nefi, the only needle free epinephrine nasal spray for those who weigh 33 pounds or more. It's used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Nefi works as well as a needle injector and delivers the same trusted epinephrine. It's designed to be safe and easy to use use at the first sign of symptoms, so in a high stress moment, your child or someone else can act quickly to treat an allergic reaction even if you're not there. NEFI is also small, discreet and easy to carry, including in a backpack, lunchbox or sports bag, so your child is prepared anywhere the day takes them. Pay as little as $0 for at least four Nefi devices two backs through the copay Savings Program with commercial insurance if eligible patients should not pay more than $199 for Nephi. If you have medical conditions or take certain medicines, your condition may worsen. Tell your doctor about nasal heart, thyroid or kidney issues, high blood pressure, Parkinson's, diabetes if you're pregnant or breastfeeding and all medications. Side effects include nasal discomfort, headache, runny nose, shakiness and throat irritation. These are not all side effects. Does your child need a new epinephrine prescription or refill? Don't wait. Ask a doctor about needle free Nefy today. Visit nefy.com to learn more. That's n-e f f y.com I love my dog but her breath not so much. But I found something that works for both of us. I give her a Greenies dental treat every single day and she cannot get enough. And here's what won me over. These are more than just tasty treats. Greenies dental treats are an easy way to give your dog clinically proven oral care and are designed to support support the four areas that vets check the plaque, tartar, gums and breath. The unique texture cleans down to the gum line to support cleaner teeth after 28 days when fed daily. They're a vet recommended dental treat made with natural ingredients plus vitamins, minerals and nutrients. Rawhide free, easy to chew and digest and the unique flexible texture makes them bendable so they won't snap. Honestly, Greenies dental treats are the best part of my dog Cara's Day. Start your dog's oral care routine today, including a daily Greenies dental treat and turn health into something pets can't help but love. Greenies make health a treat shop now@greenies.com. your home should feel like you. And if it doesn't yet, well, it could be a budget problem, which I totally get. But have you checked out Wayfair? Because they can fix that. I just found the best tile for my laundry room, which I've been on a tile hunt for a while now. And it was looking at this other tile shop and then it occurred to me, maybe Wayfair has the tile that I want. Not only did they have the tile that I want, but I got it on sale as well. And I just got it in and I cannot wait for my tile guy to come lay it down. It is going to change the vibe of my laundry room. Wayfair has saved me tons of times. Not just with tile. Like light fixtures, mirrors, rugs, plants, they have it all. Whatever you need to change your vibe, give Wayfair a shot. You need seating for your outdoor patio. You want grills for the summer, appliances, storage, lighting, rugs, decor. One place, everything you need. No bouncing between stores. And They've got over 20 million five star reviews. You're not blind. Blind, you can see real customers, real homes, real feedback before anything hits your cart. Ready to upgrade your home for way less? Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home and get your space through. Ready for less. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com Wayfair Every style, every home. Ladies, if you're in that phase where your body's just, you know, doing new things, sleep's weird, energy's weird, cravings also weird, you're not alone. It's totally normal. Menopause. And perimenopause just means your body needs a little support. And sprouts makes that support easier so you can start feeling more like you. Tons of fresh organic produce or fiber, sprouts, protein and creatine to keep your muscles and bones strong and your energy up. And supplements that can help you manage mood shifts. So whether it's perimenopause, menopause, or any other health journey, it's easier at Sprouts Farmer's Market. I looked up a guy on LinkedIn the other day and I was like, do people do this?
A
Is this a guy? Is this a potential suitor?
B
I mean, it was something that I heard from somebody. No, I mean, I'm not. It's just a curiosity thing. And so then I'm like, do people look up people on LinkedIn? And it is a thing, but you
A
got to be careful because they can see that you look at them.
B
Well, here's the thing. I don't have a LinkedIn account. And sometimes I'm able to look only so far I can't see everything. And what's weird is maybe you only get so many of those per month. Per month. Because sometimes I'm able to look, and then other times it's like, you need an account. And then I'm like, well, why was I able to see the other day?
A
So what did you find anything interesting?
B
Well, I just liked looking at previous work, how long he was staying at the jobs. And then with the job title, I Google. Okay, well, so I wonder what they make. And then I'm just getting nosy.
A
Yeah.
B
And not that that matters because I take care of myself, but I just curious.
A
People definitely do that because people, it's. I recommend this if you're especially online dating or dating. This is a date that you don't have a mutual connection where somebody can say, this is a safe, normal person. You need to Google these people. And when you Google them, most of the time one of the first things that comes up is their link.
B
The LinkedIn pops up.
A
But that's. I would. I never did that because I always afraid they would see that I looked at them.
B
Yeah, but you have a LinkedIn. See, I don't.
A
But I haven't gotten on my LinkedIn. I. I made my LinkedIn in grad school and I never used it.
B
I mean, why would. Would I need a. Do I need a LinkedIn? Like.
A
Well, if you're.
B
Maybe once I. When I finish my key. No, not motivation.
A
Keynote. Sorry, a keynote speaker.
B
Once I finish, which I'm. I'm almost done with my speech, then maybe I need to build a LinkedIn just for my credibility.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. I found the survey. It found that one in eight people have started a romantic relationship through LinkedIn, while one in five have used the platform to check out a potential partner. Nearly half of respondents also said LinkedIn profiles feel more trustworthy than dating app profiles.
A
They. That's actually. I mean, it's their professional life, but, like, you can't lie on there because you can say anything about yourself on your dating app, but on your LinkedIn, you can't lie. Like, if this is your job or. I mean, I guess you could lie, but I feel like you're less likely to. I one time thought somebody was asking me out on LinkedIn.
B
What happened?
A
They just were networking.
B
Oh, yeah. But it was a guy.
A
You said. Was it a guy?
B
Yeah, a girl. Could ask you.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. It was a guy.
B
I mean, you wouldn't be interested.
A
I probably wouldn't have gone. I probably would have gone with the girl, but I would have known it was for networking. But I was like, oh, interesting, Crazy. This guy found me on here.
B
You're like, stop stalking me. He's like, look, I was trying to invite you to a mixer.
A
And then I think he wanted to be, like, my financial advisor or something, which I. My financial advisor is somebody I once dated, so full circle. But you got. You got to be careful. They're not always asking you.
B
Yeah. You're like, oh, they just want to manage my.
A
It's feeling really good about myself, I guess. I've done a lot of background checks on people, though, where you, like, pay the money, and some for good reason. One had a felony.
B
Yeah, that's good to know.
A
Yeah.
B
I did the only background check, which my friend did it. I didn't do it. I think that I've done maybe. Maybe we did more, but this one is the only one I remember was a really weird email that I got from one of my neighbors about me. It was really, really weird. And, like, we just tried to look up stuff about them, and then it showed on the record that they had DUIs. And I'm like, okay, this tracks. I think maybe they drink, like, weird.
A
Like, was it.
B
It was a love letter. No, it was just a not nice email about me. And I didn't even know them, but they were judging me and my encounters with them. Like when I would walk my dog, if I would say hi or not. And then they sent me. It was just a really not nice email, but it was sent at almost midnight, so. Sipping the sauce, you know, like, the background check gave me info, I think, through the background check. Oh, this is what I was trying to figure out. Why we did the background check is because she just signed that she lived on my street, but I didn't know which address. So we just ran a bunch of stuff to figure out exactly which home she was in so that now I know not to walk that way at all ever.
A
Did you ever see this person after? And were you like, huh?
B
No, I think I just started trying to wave more to anybody. She did sign it for all the moms on my street, though. She represented everybody. Yeah.
A
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Was this. She. Was this in Texas or North Carolina?
B
No, it was here. It was here.
A
Was it in this neighborhood?
B
No.
A
Okay. I was like, I would have known about this. No.
B
But she signed it. What? It it's like, name a street name. Just give a street name.
A
John Street.
B
Okay. She would be like, it. She was like, sincerely, the moms of John Street. And I was like, wow, she's signing it for the whole. And that she lived on that street forever.
A
But did she just say that because she wanted to write it and then she didn't want to? Just.
B
I think if other moms knew she was sending that on their behalf, they would have been mortified.
A
Yeah.
B
But that's why I did that background check. But I'm like, wow, you really can find out a lot about people. And I hope she got help. I mean, if she. I know people that have gotten DUIs. Like, they're good people. I'm not saying she's bad. I mean, driving while you drink is not smart, but people make stupid mistakes. And she had that on her record. But that gave me information of like, oh, I need to have Grace for this email, because I think there might be a situation happening here. And I think maybe she was drinking and that's why she sent this very bizarre, rude email and then signed it for the street.
A
Yeah.
B
But just saying that I was unfriendly on my walks, and then I'm sure
A
I'm unfriendly on walks.
B
Yeah, I have my earbuds in. I got my dog or if I would turn. That meant I was going that direction. I really was perplexed by it. And then she also said, if our kids ever want to get together, let her know. I'm like, sure. Okay. I mean, I never replied.
A
So this was not that long ago. Because you had your kids.
B
I had just gotten them.
A
Okay.
B
So it was. I mean, I've had my kids now for.
A
Yeah, but it wasn't. I was thinking this was like 15 years.
B
Well, I've only lived here 13.
A
Yeah.
B
So.
A
Wow. Okay.
B
Well, I'm sorry.
A
That would have hurt my feelings a little bit.
B
It definitely did. I still have it in my email. I keep it.
A
Oh, well, maybe one day we'll pull
B
it out just in case.
A
Just in case what?
B
I don't. I don't know. I keep a lot of emails. Like, if I go back, I have emails from my mom.
A
Well, I guess I don't delete.
B
I have emails from when my ex husband and I first started emailing. Like, that's how we communicated because he was overseas and we would send emails and you could totally tell I was turning on the charm. I mean, so cheesy. But I was excited. Like, you can see how you act in the early days.
A
I wish Patrick and I were just talking because I had another one of those, like, Instagram things that's like five questions to ask your partner or whatever. And we did it the other night, and one of the questions was, who's the first person that you told how you felt about me? And then one of the questions was something about like, at what point did you know you were falling for me? Like, what did I do that made you know that you were falling for me? Or something like that. And we both struggled figuring out the answers to those two questions. And we have only been together for like four and a half years, so it's not like it's been a ton of time. So we were talking. We wish that we would have both kept a journal when we were dating, or I guess an email log or something like that. And I always have that thought of. It would be really cool if I had a journal and I could look back at this or I could see how I was feeling, but I cannot force myself to do it. So if you're listening to this and you have not found your partner, I highly. Amy. I highly. Will you journal already?
B
Yeah, but I could do better. It's one of my hobbies that would
A
be so cool to look back and be like, Went to dinner with the girls tonight. We talked about so and so.
B
Like with my ex boyfriend. My. My last one.
A
Yeah.
B
I only have one ex boyfriend since my marriage. And he. On our one, like on our second or third date, we wrote some stuff down on receipts because we were getting to know each other and we were writing down the three qualities that we are looking for in a partner. And I kept both of our answers and I have them. I still have it in my.
A
What are your three qualities that you look for?
B
Well, I have to go back up there and see because, I mean, I have more than three, but I don't know what three I chose. I know that his three. He wanted someone that's kind.
A
That lady on your street would not think that.
B
Which I just pulled up that email, by the way.
A
Oh, yay. Do you want me to read it? Yes.
B
Okay.
A
Wait. What were the other things he was looking for?
B
Same faith. And I can't remember the third.
A
Huh.
B
Well, this was like almost we're coming up on two years ago.
A
I think it's fine that you don't remember. I just was like. But the first.
B
I could go get it out of my drawer and show you.
A
Okay.
B
But I remember. And we went to Henrietta Red. It's on a Henrietta Red receipt.
A
That was your. Is that the date that you went and you wore the pink dress?
B
That was the first date. And that was at. That was a one name. A one girl name restaurant.
A
Okay. I knew it was like a name, but now.
B
Audrey.
A
Audrey.
B
No, no. Aubrey. Hey, Avery. Hey, Anita. Hey.
A
What? I thought it was with the h. Oh, hey. Wasn't it it. Wasn't it a steak place?
B
No.
A
Maybe it was Audrey.
B
I did want to get some pork thing, and he. He made a face and I was like, okay, guess getting that. But then I learned with his daughter, his. His daughter. His wife's colon cancer, he just doesn't eat pork. Anything pork. So I was like, guess we're not going to get that. I mean, I guess he will occasionally, but it's very rare.
A
But he. Did he say like that on the first date? Like, pork is bad for you?
B
No, I didn't learn until later. I just thought, well, that was a weird encounter. Like the. The server was at our table ordering, and I was like questioning that one. And then his face. And then I was like, okay, I guess I'm not going to get the bacon.
A
Do you remember what you got?
B
I know I got the pimento cheese dish. There was just a thing of pimento cheese and you dip. Well, yeah, I love pimento cheese.
A
Yeah, I know you do, but you don't remember what you got on your first. Like, what meal? That stuff I remember.
B
See, I should have journaled it.
A
Well, yeah, it's not the most important thing.
B
Yeah. Okay. You want this email?
A
Yes.
B
Okay. I read this on the Bobby Bone show way back too, so.
A
Well, I've never heard.
B
Okay, this was years ago. Hey, Amy.
A
Sorry, sorry. What year can you see?
B
2019.
A
Not that long ago, Cap.
B
This was seven over. This is seven and a half years ago. That's a long time.
A
2019 does not feel that long ago because that's the year after.
B
This was pre Covid.
A
I know, but that's the year before COVID and Covid seems like two years ago to me.
B
Okay, sorry, but everything before COVID seems like eons ago.
A
Okay.
B
Okay. Amy. I listen every morning on my way to work. Love the show. I figured out a while back that you live on my street as have a few other moms. Believe me when I tell you that when we wave hello, as you are walking by our houses with your husband, kids, friends, when we are in the front yard with our kids, we are being neighborhood friendly like we have been for most of the 10 to 15 years we have all lived here. So when you turn away, ignore, and don't return the greeting, it's just rude. We all have kids and would love for your adorable kids to join in with the neighborhood kids anytime. No one cares about your radio celebrity. We are all native Nashvillians and have plenty of celebrity friends. We are a. We are a fun group of moms who like to drink wine on the porch and have a good time while keeping it real, even if you're not interested or give zero cares. Returning a wave or hello is just polite. Sincerely, John Street Moms. Does that make you want to walk by and be like, no. Hey.
A
And also, like, we have plenty of celebrity friends.
B
We don't care about you. First of all, I do not put myself in that category, and you know it.
A
I was gonna say that. I was like. You were? When I met you, I was actually. I don't know. Shocked is the word, but I. I was like, oh, she doesn't realize that more people know who she is then she thinks, so you will. You would never consider yourself a celebrity.
B
No. And if I feel like you're even less. Like, if I'm walking with my friends, my husband's my friends, or I've got my headphones in, like, I. I don't know if I just didn't notice. Like, there's no way. We did walk a lot in that neighborhood. My. We like. But think of these friends I'm about to name. Gracie. She's, like, the nicest person ever.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, we would. We would wave like, I Did she
A
live over there, too?
B
Yeah. And we had, like, Caroline Hobby again, one of the sweetest people ever. Who else was in our walking crew? Jackie. So nice. Abby. Like, I don't. It just. It was very perplexing to me. But also, sometimes when I walk, I'm in my own. We're, like, having a conversation. We're in our own zone, so we may not see, but I can't.
A
I think she wanted. I think she did care that you were on the radio and she wanted to be your friend. Because it's also interesting how she's like, we have plenty of celebrity friends. I have lived in Nashville, Franklin, my entire life. I have none. Like, that's not like a normal. I guess it's not abnormal when you're from here, but it also isn't like. It's not like everybody is friends with famous people here, I think. I don't know that that line is
B
also the fact that I'm reading it again, and I did read it on the show, and it's come up numerous times on the show throughout the years. If I were her, I would also be like, okay, let this go. Like, let it go. But it is a funny story.
A
Well, you have let it go.
B
And I'm not saying I've never heard this story. Like, I'm not giving her away at all whatsoever. I would never do that. It just, to me was. This is sort of like a weird Yelp review.
A
I was.
B
I was about to say, this is, like, circling.
A
Should have been posted on her Facebook, and then she would never have done.
B
She's like, Diane with the Outback, like, getting all mad, but then comes back with a 4.5. She did come back. Like, we. We'd love to hang out with you. Like, she's saying it's like a. It's like a weird mix of, like, you know, you're rude, but, like, let's hang out.
A
You know what I wish she would have done if she was feeling like you were, because this is very confusing. So I wish you would have been like, hey, if you're new to the street, like, there's a group of us that do this. Whatever. We've seen you walking a couple times. I know it's hard to meet new people, and sometimes it can be intimidating, but we'd love to have you over one night for a glass of wine on the porch or for a play date with our kids.
B
Only, like, inviting me.
A
Yeah, that would be solving the same problem, because then if you were just really rude and didn't care about them, you would have ignored the email, but you also probably would have answered that email and gone. And then she would have her celebrity friend.
B
Mm.
A
Interesting. Okay.
B
Who. We did it.
A
I'm sorry that you got that email.
B
Yeah, I was trying to pull up, like, if there was, like, a cute email from between me and Ben in, like, 2006 of my side, like, I could give you. I could give you an example of, like, my. You know, my email flirting, which is probably, like, so awkward. Oh, here's one. Hey. Oh, I was emailed. This is before I even joined the Bobby Bone show, because I was emailing him from my architectural granite marble email.
A
So this is. So you did this in your work email?
B
Is that bad?
A
Yes. That's actually crazy because your boss could read these.
B
What? What? Really?
A
Yes. I would never. I would never use my work any personal email.
B
Let me tell you why I probably did that. This was my first job out of Colle with my first real email. I probably was pumped to have it.
A
You didn't have another email.
B
I did. I had, I had my, my Gmail.
A
You were like, he's. Ben's gonna think it's cool that I have a work email.
B
Yeah, I had a. I am such a businesswoman. I'm in sales. I even had one of those Nextel phones that was also like a walkie talkie. Like a walkie talkie at the same time, Like, I thought I was so cool. Oh, this is how I ended it. Well, I better let you go. Like after sending like three paragraphs. Well, I better let you go. Good luck on your papers, text, etc, Have a great day. What if I was like, have the day you need to have? And I was saying that way back then.
A
Did you send like racy emails?
B
Well, that's what I was saying. First of all, no. Second of all,
A
no. Did you say like, I miss you or.
B
I said, we're cutie. No, I said. I said, work is great. Selling rock is great. So great. I won't make you jealous with the details.
A
He's like, tell me more.
B
And then I said, christy, that's my sister. I said, christy was telling me about the plane you fly. So I did.
A
I want to know what's so funny.
B
I'm just laughing at this 24, 25 year old me that's like. So I did some research online. Pretty impressive, Mr. Brown.
A
What? And also just knowing how, like you would never talk to him like that now.
B
Yes. And he was in a special school because he went to the Air Force academy. And then he was already a pilot. He was already a pilot, but I guess he had to do some like, special school, like ongoing education in the military.
A
Like you've talked about how like he was this older cube. Yes. And you were like, Mr. Brown.
B
And I'm like, so my sister was telling me about the plane you fly. So I did some research online. Pretty impressive, Mr. Brown. I said, so what are you in school for? If it's top secret. If it's top secret, I understand sometimes the granite industry prohibited. I told you I was flirting and awkward.
A
I said,
B
Sometimes the granite industry prohibits me from sharing information too. Obviously they don't. And then I said, well, I hope things settle down for you. At least enough for you to know what day it is. I guess in his reply he had said, things are so busy. What if, like, after I read all these emails, I like, fall back in love.
A
And I'm like, hey, Mr. Brown,
B
what in the world? I mean, this is like, you have
A
a legit, like big tear coming down Your cheek. Oh, I mean that is how. That's cute though. Amy, I don't think you're awkward. That is like if you did that now would be weird. But like as a 24 year old who's like intrigued by this mysterious cute older guy, what is that your faith?
B
I'm counting how many paragraphs. Another reply in this chain was where I wrote him. 1, 2, 3. These are paragraphs 4, 5, 6, 7. And the seventh paragraph I start that one with. Now that I rambled about all that.
A
But you couldn't have phone calls, right?
B
Yeah, we weren't able to talk, but I was actually talking through with him that I was trying to decide if I was going to go join this radio show or not. And I was like, I think I have opportunity to join the show. You probably don't know it. It's the Bobby Bone show. And I'm explaining all that and I'm like, but do I really want to leave this job to go do that or fast forward.
A
Yeah.
B
On my cryo Cat just brought up a good point. I'm like on my granite email talking about how I might go take another job. But the granite people knew because I auditioned at the mall and that audition ended up on the radio. So I had to come clean to them and then I had to go do my auditions.
A
What is it? In the morning for the radio.
B
What do you mean?
A
How did.
B
Well, the co, the female co host was leaving, they were hiring somebody else. The mall thing was just like a shtick, but I thought I was really making it so I made it to the top two but they ended up hiring someone that wasn't even at the mall, which that was the plan all along, but I didn't know it. And then she got the job, but then later they wanted to move her to producer and bring in a girl and that's where. But during the audition, that's where I ended up coming in and taking the job. But during the audition process from the mall, it was about a six week process and I was taking off of work in the morning to go be on the radio show. But I would get done at nine and so then I would go to my granite job after that. Like I would get there at 5:30 in the morning, do the radio show, then go to my granite job. And so they knew I had to come clean to them. Yeah, I'm like technically.
A
They probably were like, yeah, we already know because we've been reading your love letters to your boyfriend.
B
Yeah. So anyways, a little peeking that and Here. I, I just sent him. He's like, wait, what is the station? And so I sent him a link. Www967kissfm.com is the web address. And then go to the Bobby Bone show, click on the Listen Live button and you can hear us. I mean this is before. I don't even know if we had the iHeartRadio app.
A
Probably not.
B
So anyway, there's a little stroll down memory lane, but those are the kind of emails I keep.
A
That's a good.
B
And I want to keep them. And I, I go back, I read ones from my mom. Yeah, like those are fun. My mom signed all of her emails. Speaking of like how we're about to sign off on this show. We have like our little ending. My mom signed all of her emails. Here to serve Judy. So here to serve you with entertainment. Whether you enjoy it or you just think we're talking to here ourselves. Talk. One star five stars. We're gonna be here and we hope you have the day you need to have. Bye Bye. I do not have the bandwidth for a 20 step wellness routine. That's why I love Suja Organic Cold pressed juices and shots. I grab an Uber greens or ginger love and I feel like I actually did something nutritious for myself without making it a whole thing. They taste great, they're refreshing and they're made from real superfoods. Suja's powerful cold pressed fruit and vegetable juices and daily wellness shots prove you don't need a wellness retreat to feel like you took one. Just sip and let the superfoods do their thing. Choose wellness that actually works. Cold pressed, organic and blended with benefits. Suja Organic the breakup no one saw coming has hit the freezer aisle. Cherry, Orange and Grape Popsicle Ice pops are going solo. Now fans must pick a side and help crown the Flavorfew champion with a chance to earn a long term solo spot on freezer shelves. Pick up the Cherry, Orange and Grape Popsicle Ice Pop variety pack to experience all three iconic flavors and decide where your loyalty lies. And then vote by shouting out your favorite on social. And don't forget to follow the flavor feud drama all summer long on Instagram Opsicle.
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Hosts: Amy & Kat
Date: July 25, 2026
This episode of "Feeling Things" with Amy and Kat explores personal well-being, the pitfalls of accumulating hobbies for self-improvement, and a healthier, more structured approach to finding fulfillment. The conversation weaves through real-life updates (from hormone journeys to parking lot dramas and awkward neighbor emails), ultimately centering on the importance of intentional hobby categories for greater life satisfaction. With warmth and candid humor, Amy and Kat reflect on boundaries, friendship, community, and the value of journaling and honest self-expression.
[19:17] Amy introduces a new framework for hobbies: instead of more hobbies, diversify by category for holistic well-being. The five suggested categories:
Notable Quote:
Kat [21:32]: Reminds listeners that solitude is different from loneliness—it's chosen and can bring peace.
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:01 | Feelings of the day; hormone and health journeys | | 08:39 | Kat's parking lot conflict—speaks to boundaries, standing up for oneself | | 12:46 | Funny Outback review & the perils of online reviews | | 16:30 | Reading candid, real podcast reviews (1-star and 5-star) | | 19:17 | Amy introduces her five hobby categories framework | | 24:01 | Community vs. solitude in group activities; boundaries in fitness classes | | 27:13 | Amy's story of making friends through fitness when new in town | | 41:20 | The Finnish "pink basket" for singles—modern cues for vulnerability in romance | | 47:05-48:26 | What to do when someone doesn't take the hint they're not wanted (triple texting) | | 53:08 | The ethics and realities of stalking dates on LinkedIn/background checks | | 59:35 | Journaling, keeping emails, and capturing early relationship memories | | 65:33 | Amy reads the infamous neighbor email—social anxiety and "mom politics" | | 72:00+ | Looking back at cringe/flirty early relationship emails and their value |
If you're seeking more purpose and well-being, resist the urge to just "add more hobbies." Instead, use Amy’s five-category framework to create balance and meaning—and remember, the best stories may come from the most awkward moments!