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We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Kat
If you ever have feelings and you just want some, maybe a cat got
Amy
you covered like a num brother.
Kat
Ladies and fellas, we just follow in
Amy
the spirit where it tell us from
Kat
the real stuff to the chill stuff
Amy
and the in between.
Kat
Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop. This is Feeling Things Things with Amy and Cat.
Amy
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.
Kat
And I'm Kat.
Amy
And I have two feelings of the day.
Kat
I have two feelings, too.
Amy
Got a little alliteration with mine. I'm feeling accomplished and annoyed.
Kat
Okay.
Amy
Oh, so mine too.
Kat
That's so I just looked at the
Amy
the document and I saw that yours is a PP Yeah, mine's a A. And yours is. Well, you can say your feelings.
Kat
I feel proud and productive. But I want to Hear. Gosh, we're so simpatico right now.
Amy
I know.
Kat
So, okay, tell me about.
Amy
Well, I'm a con. I feel accomplished because I've already packed for our trip, which is way ahead of time for me. Normally I am last minute and it's a little chaotic. I just totally got ahead of things. So I feel accomplished and I feel good and like, is this how some people just live their life? Because this feels really good. And I'm annoyed because my daughter took my salt for my house.
Kat
Say more of why that's annoying.
Amy
Because I made egg in a hat where you take a piece of bread and put it in the skillet and cut out a hole and set the hole aside on the skillet so it browns. And then you crack an egg and put it in the middle of the hole and you cook it. And it's delicious with a little butter and salt, and it's perfection. And she makes hard boiled eggs in the mornings. I guess wherever she was going today, she was in a hurry and she took her eggs with her and I guess she took the salt so that she could eat her eggs and put the salt on it. So I was like, cool, Cool. And that. I was so excited for that. I would have picked a different route for lunch because we were recording and you were coming over and I was like, am I going to do chicken tacos or am I going to do egg in a hat? I was like, I'm gonna do egg and a hat. No, salt.
Kat
Salt kind of can make or break a dish, you know, so.
Amy
So she's enjoying that salt and annoyed. I know. And then she goes to her dad. So I'm gonna have to be like, okay, I'm gonna need you to make a special trip to my house to drop off my pink Himalayan.
Kat
It was special salt.
Amy
Sea salt, yeah.
Kat
Okay. Oh, I'm sorry about that.
Amy
I don't know if pink Himalayan sea salt is a thing. Maybe it's just pink Himalayan salt.
Kat
Well, whatever. It's special salts, not just your average table salt. So hopefully you can work through that.
Amy
Thank you.
Kat
I'm feeling.
Amy
Using my coping skills. Yeah.
Kat
I'm feeling proud and productive. What's interesting is I always am packed pretty early and I'm not packed and you are packed, so that's crazy. That's not why I'm proud of myself, actually. Maybe I am.
Amy
Oh, you're proud for, like, chilling out a little bit?
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
Yeah. Because you don't need to be packed by now. I just am, so. Yeah, you're fine.
Kat
Breezy But I went to UPS and I had about 20 things. That's an exaggeration. But I had a lot. I had a box of stuff that I had to return to Amazon, and that stuff stresses me out. Do you? Does it stress you out? Like, it's something I just want to always put off.
Amy
Yeah, of course. Returns are never fun.
Kat
Yeah. So I did them, and I rewarded myself afterwards with a little pedicure because I said if I go to ups, the nail place is right next door, then I can get my nails done.
Amy
That's a good way to get stuff done is to. When you have something you really want to do. Like, you really wanted a pedicure.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
But don't allow it until you accomplish xyz.
Kat
And then it was like the pedicure was free because, you know, I'm getting all this money back.
Amy
Yeah. From your returns. Yeah. Sometimes I get lazy and I forget about returns. Like, when I was packing, I went into my cabinet where I keep all my sunglasses, and I found two pair of sunglasses that I ordered back in February for the cruise that the Bobby Bone show went on. And I guess before the cruise, I decided I'm going to return them. But then I put them in the cabinet, and then I went on the cruise, and then I was probably like, I don't want to deal with it. And I forgot about them, and I opened them up, and so now I'm going to take them on our trip. So it's like, new glasses.
Kat
So fun.
Amy
Yeah. But I definitely didn't return those, and I should have.
Kat
It's okay.
Amy
It's okay. Okay. So that's proud and productive. Love it. Those are good things. I have something that you really enjoy doing, which is questions that don't come up.
Kat
I'm so excited.
Amy
This is a segment that Kat invented several months back because she loves.
Kat
I invented it. It's really just asking a question.
Amy
I know, but you gave it a cute name.
Kat
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Amy
Questions that don't come up.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
When you get curious about something, and sometimes it's about your friend, just something you feel like you think you should know, or maybe your partner. Y' all can play this game at home, too, with your kids.
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Amy
Questions that don't come up. You dating anybody? I had to ask my son that if he was with, like, one of these girls that he. But he's gone to do a mall hangout and a pizza place hangout in the last week or so. Same group. And there's this one girl, and I had to ask questions that don't come up. Do we like her? He said no. Oh, but listen, I'm just giving an example of, like, how to use it with your kids. Like, oh. Or questions that it won't come up. Like, I have no idea what your favorite color is.
Kat
You don't.
Amy
Purple. Yes, I know.
Kat
I was just. Oh, my gosh.
Amy
I was just playing on.
Kat
You were kidding. Okay.
Amy
I was like, this is crazy, but you might not. I had a friend get mad at me in college cause I didn't know her favorite color. But I think that was her way of expressing that she felt disconnected from me or that I wasn't pouring into our friendship the way she was. And I totally feel that I can have my guard up a lot sometimes with people. And I don't know what it is because she wasn't the first person that had expressed that to me. So that's something I have to try to work on or. I don't know. College me was a long time ago. But she did say during one of our friendship talks where we're really like, hey. She was like, I mean, you don't even know my favorite color. And you didn't. I. And I was like, you're right, I don't.
Kat
Well.
Amy
And I did not. I did not like that feeling.
Kat
I'm having a feeling because I don't think I know your favorite color, because guess what?
Amy
I don't have one.
Kat
I was about to say brown.
Amy
Maybe that's why Mushroom.
Kat
Was that the color that was. You're supposed to wear mushrooms.
Amy
One of my colors. I. I have my colors done in case y' all don't know. What's that called?
Kat
The color theory.
Amy
Color analysis.
Kat
Yes.
Amy
Yeah, I had that. And I am cool summer in case anybody cares.
Kat
And mushroom looks really good on you.
Amy
Mushroom is a color under cool summer. That is, I guess your skin and eyes look better with mushroom if you are a cool summer. But whatever. Sometimes I apply the my analysis, and then other times I don't care because black isn't in my color wheel. And I still like things that are black. So it is what it is.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
I'm just going to wear black. I know. Well, navy is in my color wheel, so I'm supposed to replace black with navy. Anyway, back to my original questions that don't come up because they are scenarios.
Kat
Okay.
Amy
Like, these aren't. This isn't a questions that don't come up so that I can learn about you. It's more, I want to know what you would do.
Listener or Guest
Okay?
Amy
So in a way I guess I am learning about you. I was sitting at a restaurant at the bar, because we didn't have a reservation, and this place is popular. Is it abba? Huh? Okay. It's so good. I wanted to say abba.
Kat
I think it's. I haven't been there yet, though.
Amy
I want to go, Ava, however you want to say that. It's so cute. I love the vibe. I'm sitting at the bar. There's this guy and girl next to us, and I think they have some friends around, but they do not know each other. And I'm going to call a man and woman. I think they were a little older than me. Man gets a drink. Woman is curious about that drink, contemplating possibly ordering it herself. So he says, you can try it.
Kat
I knew you were gonna say that.
Amy
And she takes a sip of his drink. And then that's really the end of my story, because I. I was. Wow. I said to who I was with, they don't know each other. And she just took a sip of his drink. Because I know. Because I know. And then the longer their conversation went on, because that's what who I was with said. Well, how do you know that? And I'm like, pay attention.
Kat
You could tell.
Amy
And then the way they were talking, he's like, oh, yeah, wow. Oh, my gosh. They don't know each other. And then eventually, like, she got up because they were only sitting at the bar waiting for their table to get ready, and they got up and went to their table, and he stayed. So 100 confirmation. They didn't know each other, but she was like, that's good. And he was like, yeah.
Kat
And I'm thinking, did she drink out of the straw?
Amy
No, they both drank out of the cup. Okay, so what would you do if you were curious about a drink and a stranger offered you a sip of his drink?
Kat
Are you taking Depends? Because my first thought is, are these people single? Because first of all, if he's offering another woman to sip his drink, if my husband did that, I would be so angry.
Amy
Let's just say, for the sake of the story, they're single.
Kat
So if they're both single, it's kind of a flirty move. So I get why they might have done that. However, it depends on where I am.
Amy
Are we acting like we didn't just live through Covid six years ago?
Kat
I guess that doesn't bother me as much. I'm thinking, like, you can get roofied pretty easily in this town.
Amy
But he's drinking it too.
Kat
People are tricky. So I think if. If somebody offered me a drink of their drink at like a dive bar or like, I don't know, a less elevated place, I would be much less likely to do it.
Amy
Nobody's thinking about the germs here.
Kat
I wasn't thinking germs. I was thinking like this. What if somebody's. Something's in the drink?
Amy
Okay, Well, I just think of the germs. That leads to my next question. Okay, scenario number two of the evening. Same night, same bar, same everything. A girl comes in, sits down to the other side of us by herself, orders a drink, a meal. I believe it was like salmon on some skewers somewhat. Skewers? Skewers.
Kat
You got it.
Amy
With some rice, vegetables. And she has her cell phone, her purse, her drink, her food. She gets up and goes to the bathroom and leaves her phone, her purse, her drink, her food, all unattended. And it's. It's a bar where again, this is a very busy place. To your point, it is elevated and there are a lot of people watching. So it's not like shady and dark where you could like sprinkle something on her food. But what if I was thinking someone could tamper with your food, Someone could slide something in your drink, someone could take your purse.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
There's multiple scenarios, but the roofied one was a thought. If she has left her drink here in the wide open, she didn't say to anybody, hey, can you watch my stuff? I'm going to go to the bathroom. She just went. So.
Kat
Okay, that's a tough situation because if you have to go to the bathroom and you're by yourself, what are you supposed to do? I guess ask somebody to walk. But then you have to trust that they're not going to do something.
Amy
I don't know. These days I might take my drink
Kat
with me or the leaving the person, but then I'm like, did she leave her purse? So people didn't think she, like, left.
Amy
Well, then in that case, I would say to the bartender, hey, I'll be right back. I'm going to the restroom real quick. I'll be right back. Can you watch my stuff? And shoot. Maybe she did that, but I don't think so because I was very observant.
Listener or Guest
Yeah.
Amy
At this dinner, if you can't tell
Kat
and people are trustworthy in this town, it sounds like they sure are.
Amy
And it. A lot of people go sit at nice restaurant bars by themselves.
Kat
You know, one of my friends that you've met used to. She still does this. She goes to bars and journals all the time. Like, nice bars.
Amy
And that's how she meets people. Right?
Kat
She. She has met many of people that way. But, like, if.
Amy
Yeah, I think we've talked about it on the podcast that maybe I need to go hit up different nice hotel bars or restaurant bars and just sit there with a glass of wine and a journal.
Kat
Yeah. And see, but you have to be open and approachable. You can't be, like, you know, head down, scribbling furiously.
Amy
I'm journaling. Why are you bothering me?
Kat
Be lightly journaling.
Amy
Maybe I should do some sort of an experiment where I do that. Not. Not even journaling. Or just go with my computer and a glass of wine. Or just I need to be doing something. Or a book, I guess.
Kat
Yeah. You know, the book. I would say go. Yeah, go with a book or your computer to make it look like you're working. And maybe you could get a little work done. Who knows? And see what happens if people talk to you. But are you going to be open to talking to them? You're very good at talking to strangers.
Amy
Yeah, I think I would be open to it, but I just don't know what.
Kat
What bar?
Amy
I don't know. Maybe we need to call your friend and get a recap of, like, what
Kat
are the best ones. I do know she loved Barcelona. They have a cool bar.
Amy
So if I'm going to do that, I would maybe do abba. Why is it so hard for me to say abba, like, every time I'm about to say it out of your mouth? My brain. That whole time I was like, Abba.
Listener or Guest
Abba.
Amy
Abba.
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AbBA.
Amy
Abba. Abba. ABBA. ABBA. Is that my dyslexia? I don't know. Because I know the right way to say it. Because even at the restaurant, they said, welcome to Ava. Right, Ava. Ava. But I can't. I can't ever remember the right way. And it's not hard, but it's kind
Kat
of hard because the band.
Amy
Yeah, but it's a B. B, A.
Kat
Okay.
Amy
And that's abba. Okay.
Kat
ABBA it is. See,
Amy
something's wrong with me.
Kat
Just call it Aba. Aba Now.
Amy
Sounds like an airport.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
So I could go there. Yeah, that's. I mean, I like Barcelona, too. I guess we probably just need to make a list, and then it's part of my little experiment. But then that requires, like, getting ready.
Kat
This is going to be a podcast. We need you to do this. I want you to.
Amy
For the people.
Kat
For the people. Once you commit to doing this one, let's say two times. And I want you to tally how many people try to make connection with you.
Amy
What if it's so sad and nice? Zero.
Kat
Then we. We don't have to do it again.
Amy
Nothing. We know.
Kat
But then. No, then we'll. We'll dissect. Like, are you open or were you furiously reading or something?
Amy
Okay.
Kat
You know, we can make some adjustments, and then we'll go again. People are going to approach you.
Amy
You don't know that. We don't know that. We'll have to just see. And you need to ask your friend. Does it matter the night of the week? Like, are we going on a.
Kat
Don't go on a Friday night. This is a. A weeknight.
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Cool.
Kat
Casual.
Amy
So like a Wednesday. Like a working Wednesday.
Kat
Yes.
Amy
With wind down. Working Wednesday. Yeah.
Kat
And you have to be by yourself. Sorry I can't go with you.
Amy
Okay. All right. This is something that I shared with Kat before we started recording because I didn't know if she would really like it. And she was like, oh, I love that. And I thought, oh, okay. Well, then I guess we're going to talk about this. And this is how to make a compliment less about you and more about the person that you are complimenting. And if you're like, what a compliment is, making it about the other person, when I break this down for you, you're gonna be like, oh, I get it now. It makes sense. So speaking of little challenges, like my challenge to go to the bar, Kat and I are gonna be challenging ourselves to try to compliment this way, and y' all can too. For example, instead of saying to someone, I, I love your dress, you say, you look stunning in that dress, or you look so good, you are wearing that dress. It is not wearing you. I'm just kidding. I'm going off stuff.
Kat
You could just say you look stunning.
Amy
I know you can keep it simple. Instead of I was so impressed by your presentation. You can try saying you explained everything so clearly. Instead of I love your home, try, you've created such a beautiful, welcoming space. It's just like you're removing the word I love your dress and making it more about them. You look stunning in that dress. Instead of I love your home, it's like, wow, you've created a beautiful space.
Kat
It's the opposite of when we're talking about, like, expressing our feelings. We want to use I statements. It's the opposite. This is when the when. This is when it's appropriate to you statement it out. So simple. But I do think it makes.
Amy
Yeah. They're observations that make someone feel seen and more focused on the receiver than the giver. Yeah, I love it, love it, love it. That's from Elevate Etiquette, which. My daughter and son are 19 and 15, respectively, and I want to send them to, like, cotillion. Or did you do that? I did do cotillion, but I just like it. Also, full transparency, full disclosure. It's on me. I raised them.
Kat
What do you think they're not?
Amy
I just. I don't know. Some stuff, just etiquette wise, we're missing. And I'm like, what. What have I done?
Kat
Use the right fork.
Amy
Like the. No, because we have one fork. Or maybe the salad fork. We were out to dinner the other night with some friends at a restaurant, and this is on me. The food came, and not everybody's food was at the table. And generally I thought I had raised them. Let's wait for all the food to come. My daughter was pretty much almost done with her taco by the time everybody's food got to the plate. And I was busy talking to the other mom. And then I look over and she's, like, scarfed down her taco. And then we've all started eating. And then my son's like, we need to pray. We need to pray. Whoops, we forgot to pray. So then halfway. Halfway through our meal, we gather hands. Like our etiquette was just, like, all off.
Kat
Well, that's actually. That's sweet that he remembered to pray. I think that is. Yeah, I think generally people wait also, you don't wait too long because then your food's cold. And I get it. I am somebody who. I don't want you to wait because I don't want you, especially if you're really hungry.
Amy
Well, then we can check with the table. And then if everybody's like, oh, yeah, no, please, go ahead. I get it. And then one of the other kids at the table, my friend's son, was talking about how he hung out with this one guy. And then my daughter's like, ugh, I do not like him. I mean, it was just. I just thought, oh, well, when we got in the car, I thought, well, he may not have the same experience as you. And that sounded like that was one of his really good friends. So I don't know that across the table we need to yell like, I don't like that person, or that per. You know, it just was.
Kat
Do they teach you that in cotillion, though?
Amy
No, I was joking about that when I saw Elevate etiquette. I just thought, oh, there are some etiquette things I want to go over with my kids. Even when it comes to napkins. Like when you sit down at a restaurant. When you sit down at a restaurant, do you undo and put the napkin in your lap straight away?
Kat
You know, sometimes, if it's a nice restaurant, yes. But like at like a taco place, no, I'm not putting that in my lap. It depends on the vibe. But when you were saying that, I just recently, when I was sick a couple of weeks ago, I started watching the Queen's Gamut.
Amy
Oh, that's so good. The chest show.
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Kat
The queen's gamut.
Amy
Oh, that's so good. The chest drum.
Kat
Yes. Okay, but you don't like it. So I told Patrick, I said I just didn't expect there to be so much chess. And he goes, it's a show about chess. Yeah, but I thought it was gonna be chess. And then there's. There is other stuff, but you're watching a lot of chess and I'm don't understand chess anyway. I didn't finish it. I will eventually. But the reason I bring it up is in the beginning. One of the. I think it is the main character. She's like at a boarding school and learning about manners. Some etiquette class. And they are making the girls. They're eating an orange with a fork and a knife.
Amy
Yeah. That's weird.
Kat
Like, how do you. And she was cutting it and it like flew off the table and whatever. I'm like, that's what happened to me. Who eats an orange fully the skin on cutting it with a fork and a knife. That's wild to me. So if that's what etiquette class is, I don't think I'm built for it.
Amy
No, I suppose I don't really mean like my kids need to go to full blown etiquette school. It's just on me, like little things. Also, same dinner, we're almost done and my son's like, I have to go to the bathroom. Should I do it at home or do it here? And you know, he meant like number two. And so I was like, how about we not announce that to the hot teenage boy? I think I know, but I just thought, what, what am I doing wrong? What, like calling.
Kat
What was your answer Home.
Amy
Okay. Like we're leaving. We're close to home. Like, no, because then he'll be in the bathroom for the next 15 minutes because he's lactose intolerant and he forgot his lactate and yes, they had cheese on his burrito. So then I was like, just, let's just go, let's get in the car. Let's go home.
Kat
That's funny. Okay. Whatever you've done, you've given your kids great personality.
Amy
Thanks.
Kat
You're welcome.
Amy
Yeah, speaking of personality, we got a voicemail from a listener. And when we go over these briefly, we kind of give them a topic of where they're going to fall. And the topic of this one is silly little star chart. So that's the topic. But she's talking about Kat and I's upcoming trip to Canyon Ranch. And this is from Julia in Wisconsin. She's 29, almost 30. Shout out. Another 20 year old listening to us. So happy almost birthday, Julia. And here's what she had to say.
Listener or Guest
I was really excited to hear about your guys upcoming trip to Canyon Ranch. I'm doing the very midwesty version of that this weekend. I'm going to a summer camp, but it's a women's retreat. So it's very yoga and meditation. And then we also have a lot of journal prompts to do. And I was on the committee for the event. It's a fundraiser for the nonprofit that owns this camp that has a mission of connecting youth with nature. And this is just a women's fundraiser and I'm so, so excited to go. And it really just like resonated that you guys are kind of on your own women's retreat with just the two of you to Canyon Ranch. So not quite so glamorous. I will be laying at a lake, not a pool, but do another good book lined up and yeah, I'm so excited for you guys. But one thing I wanted to talk about kind of on my mental health and wellness journey right now is I bought this thing called a silly little star chart. And if you google it, it comes up, but it essentially allows you to like create your own 75 day challenge. And I've really been enjoying it because it comes with little stickers or you can do just the downloadable version and just challenge yourself to new things. So I started on May 1, so July 15 will be my 75 days and I feel like I've made so much progress in so many aspects of my life and I'm just really excited. So I'm feeling excited and I Hope you guys have the day you need to have. I'm Julia from Wisconsin and I'm 29, almost 30. Hope you guys have a great trip to Canyon Grant and thanks for all the joy and smiles you bring.
Amy
Okay, Julia, thank you for that. We love this idea. And I bet so many people listening right now are googling silly little star chart so they can get started. I mean, definition of whimsy.
Kat
Yeah, I love this.
Amy
So cute. So thank you so much for this voicemail.
Kat
I'm looking at the website right now for this. I've never heard of this. And you can do like silly little workouts. Silly little quit. I think that's like if you want to quit something, it's like a start. This is adult star charts. Like, you know, like your don't pee the bed star chart you had as a kid. Like this is. This is so whimsy. I love this. And there is something so motivating about a sticker. So I might, I don't. I might order this, but I might just buy some stickers.
Amy
Yeah, and you can just make your own chart. I don't think there's any rules about it. We could even do silly little go
Kat
to the bar alone and get somebody to talk to me chart.
Amy
And maybe I can do a chart for my 19 and 15 year old
Kat
kids and be like, silly little don't talk about the bathroom while we're at the table.
Amy
You get a star. Don't eat your taco before everybody gets their food. You get a star. Speak kindly of other people's friends at the dinner table. You get a star.
Kat
Oh, there's a silly little chores you can do. Silly little etiquette.
Amy
See, I could see myself doing this like laundry I love. So that's not really a chore that I hate. But if there's like a. I've got to organize my bathroom. I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna go tackle my silly little bathroom so
Kat
I can get an Amazon return.
Amy
Oh, there you go.
Kat
And there's a silly little breakup. I wonder like what that's about. If you're like doing positive things after a breakup. Silly little books, silly little chores. Yeah, there's all kinds of cute things on here. This is a great idea. Whoever invented this, I like it.
Amy
Well, not that Julia is the one that invented it, but we'll credit her because she let us know about it.
Kat
So yeah. Thanks, girl.
Amy
Shout out. We have another email. That was a voicemail, but we do have an email from Lindsay to share with you. Hey, my Name is Lindsay, and I'm listening from Austin, Texas. In your episode this week, Kat talked about her fear around giving birth. And I just wanted to say that I know exactly how she feels. I had never had the desire to give birth because it honestly terrified me, but I accepted that it was necessary. When I was pregnant with my first, I would tell people I wanted a Twilight birth, which is what they used to do in maybe the 50s or 60s, where they would put the mother to sleep and then deliver the baby. Obviously, I was joking, but a little part of me was wishing it could be that easy. I'm here to tell you that both my babies were born without complications. And when you finally go into labor, you will accept that there's only one way this ends with the baby coming out and you just do it. Vaginal or C section. I can't really explain the mental shift that happened, but I hope it's the same for you. Have the day you need to have, Lindsay. Okay, so when we got this email, I would say that the highlight and theme of this email is Twilight birth.
Kat
Yeah, who knew?
Amy
Because Kat and I did not know that was a thing. So then we started reading about it. And that is a real thing.
Kat
Yep. That should not have probably ever happened, but it did happen.
Amy
It was developed in Germany in the early 1900s, and it provided women with a, quote, painless childbirth experience. Morphine was used to blunt physical pain. Scopolamine. Did I say that right?
Kat
I was going to say good job on that. I have no idea.
Capital One Announcer
I can't say.
Amy
But I can say scopolamine induced a semi conscious drowsy state and crucially, amnesia.
Kat
Saying like that was the most important part.
Amy
Okay, got it. The goal, mothers would thrash and labor in a semi delirious state, but wake up hours later with absolutely no memory of the event for the pain. Okay. Obviously there's many, many reasons why this is no longer done. Isn't. I've never given birth. But even though it is painful and awful, isn't it so empowering and like, you want to remember that experience? Like, I did this.
Kat
I think so, but I just read something.
Amy
Okay, what?
Kat
That said, it's. I'm reading about the, like, the complications of this. Like, obviously there's. You're talking about, like, you're missing this, like, magical experience that people love. But also one of the issues is because they were like, delirious and, I don't know, not like fully present, the. The moms couldn't push. They couldn't actively push because they weren't you know, aware. So. So it increased the need for forced forceps delivery, which I guess that's like
Amy
sticking the thing in there and pulling out. So then that's fetal distress. Like, distress on the baby.
Kat
Yeah, I think. Yeah, I don't. I don't think. I think one of the reasons they don't do this is it definitely was not good for the baby. I said suffocation upon delivery. Oh, okay.
Amy
Yeah.
Kat
I wonder.
Amy
So this should make you feel good, like, you're not having a Twilight birth. So. This is so beautiful.
Kat
I was gonna say this wasn't that long ago. So I wonder if we know anybody who experienced a Twilight birth. Like, this says 19 developed in 1906. I don't know when they stopped doing it, but like it says, highly popular
Amy
in the 1910s and 1920s. Now. Lindsay said something about 50s or 60s, so I don't know how many decades it was going on, but I wonder
Kat
if, like, my grandma was delivered via Twilight birth. I cannot ask her, but crazy. Okay, well, so, yeah, that does make me feel. Yes. This is, like. It could be worse. This could be what I was. I guess people, when they did it, they thought it was good. I think I'm. I'm getting more excited about that process, depending on the day, depending Also what TikTok videos I've seen that day.
Amy
Yeah. We have another email, and the topic of this one, I'll just put it as crying. And let me tell y', all, we are sitting at my kitchen counter. I'm eating my saltless egg in a hat, and Kat and I are going over the episode and reading emails and looking through voicemails and talking. And Kat's like, oh, my gosh, this email. And she starts reading it. At first, she's smiling and kind of fine, and then all of a sudden, Kat starts crying, and. And she was like, I don't know why I'm crying. This email isn't sad. It's. The email is about crying, but just an email about crying was making Kat cry.
Kat
It was ridiculous.
Amy
Like, are you gonna cry right now? Because I'm telling the story about how you cried.
Kat
No, I might cry if I read. Do you want me to read this?
Amy
I think.
Kat
Or do you want to read it?
Amy
I think you could try, but. Okay, you should try. So let's see if you can get through it, and if not, no judgment. This is a safe space.
Kat
Thank you. And I also need no judgment around. I get out of breath really easily these days. So if you can hear my labored Breathing as I read.
Amy
So tell everybody how far along you are.
Kat
27 weeks.
Amy
What fruit is the baby?
Kat
I'd have to look. Last week I was a spaghetti squash.
Amy
A small one.
Kat
Well, it's remembered. We learned it's the length.
Amy
Oh, yeah, that's right. So, yeah.
Kat
I don't know. I think maybe is next time eggplant maybe. I know that feels smaller.
Amy
Yeah.
Listener or Guest
I don't know.
Amy
I just bought a real large spaghetti squash the other day and did we talk about this? My dog ate it. Oh, yeah.
Kat
I saw that on Instagram.
Amy
I was like, my dog's a goat. Raw. She got it off the counter with her grubby little paws and somehow got it open. Like, I can barely get a spaghetti squash open myself with a very sharp knife.
Kat
But that's also like a yucky. I mean, dogs eat.
Listener or Guest
Yeah.
Amy
Speaking of going the bathroom like it was. Oh. Like seeds for days. Oh, she was having a good old time with that. But. So baby is. We've said this sex or no?
Kat
Yeah. It's a girl.
Amy
A baby girl. I didn't. I couldn't remember. I get so nervous. I don't want to ruin anything. So baby girl is a little bigger. The next thing after a spaghetti squash. And you are due in September.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
And your baby shower is in August. Yes.
Kat
Everything's coming up.
Amy
Kat texted me the other day. She was like, hey, my sisters are gonna text you in case you wanna. If you still wanna help with the baby shower. No pressure. You don't have to. And I was like, what? First of all, I've told you multiple times, I wanna be a part of helping with the baby shower. And I just replied, of course I want to.
Kat
I just didn't want you to get a text from my sisters. And you be like, this is weird that they're asking me to do it. Even though I know we talked about. I don't know, I just needed to put that out there that, like, you might get a text from them. But also, if you've changed your mind, it's also okay. But, like, if you did change your mind, I would be kind of like, why'd you change your mind?
Amy
What would cause somebody. Although I will say in couch talks this week. So on Thursday, we have an email from one of you about a rocky friendship. Like, a friend that says really or does and says really bizarre things that is making this listener of ours, like, step back and be like, what?
Kat
Why?
Amy
Why am I friends with this person? So we'll be sharing that email and I feel like this would Fall into that category. Like, if I were to do that, that would be really weird.
Kat
It would be weird.
Amy
It would just be weird because of how many times I've brought it up. And then also, why would I change my. I mean, even if I was going to be out of town, which that could be a possibility because I've got a vacation around the same time. And I remember being at your house one night I stopped by. I don't know, you and Patrick were having dinner. I don't know if maybe I ate a few of your nuggets, but we were talking, and you were like, oh, well, don't. That's your vacation. Like, don't change your vacation. Cause it's a shower. But in my mind, I'm like, well, I probably would like your shower. That's a big deal. This is your first baby. But let's say if I had an opportunity to go to Paris, like, I've always wanted to go. Like, I was really thinking this through in my mind, I was like, Kat
Kat
would want me to go to Paris, so the anxiety I would have over, like, making sure you had a really good time at my baby shower.
Amy
Because I did it right. Well, now we don't have to worry about that, because our vacation is. No, it's not near your baby shower. Same month, but weeks apart. And also, I thought about it, and I was like, okay, she would want me to go, so I would still go somewhere on my trip, but I would want to contribute to helping, like, get the shower ready however I could, because I would want to be a part of it. A part of it.
Kat
Did they text you?
Amy
Not yet. So then I'm like, did they not want me to be a part of it? I don't think so. Unless I miss their text, which could happen. I just missed a text from Bobby yesterday, and he had to hit me up with a double tap question mark. And I was like, how did I miss that? Because I. I miss texts a lot, but not from would. If it's work. Like, I have this weird hyper. Like, I have to.
Kat
Yeah. I wonder if maybe. Because there's three of them, they don't know, like, who's texting Amy. Because that's weird.
Amy
So, yeah, they're still.
Kat
I'll check in on.
Amy
They maybe think the other person is.
Kat
I mean, they definitely think you're helping, though, because we. We're having a conversation. And I was like, well, I'll pay for this or I'll do this or I'll whatever. And no, it. Well, they were like, we have, like, plenty of people helping, so I think they. They assume you're helping.
Amy
That's like, whenever. What were we doing for your bachelor? Whatever.
Kat
I paid for the house.
Amy
No, you didn't.
Kat
I know. You paid me back for it because
Amy
I was like, you're not paying for that. It's your back.
Kat
No, I feel weird about that, though, because I'm asking people to come spend a lot of. When you have a wedding, you're asking a lot of people, especially if you're in the wedding. You have to buy a dress. You have to. Maybe people had to take off work for. My wedding is on a Friday. Like, and then you're going on this bachelorette trip. We had. Did a. We didn't do a lingerie shower. We did a comfy pajama shower, but I didn't want people to waste their money. And. Yeah, you're spending money at a place. Some people had to buy plane tickets.
Amy
Yeah, I get it. It adds up.
Kat
You don't need to pay for my stuff like this. It's a lot, so I do. I did appreciate that a lot. But I also don't. I'm not somebody who expects, like, to have that stuff.
Amy
That's true. I don't either. For me, I get the same thing.
Kat
Like, I would be, like, totally the same way. You'd be like, for the bachelorette party for everybody.
Amy
I, I, I get that. I would be, but I was like, no, I don't want you paying for that. And I, I guess to. To that point, I'll say, I guess I'm just thankful. Yeah, we're in a position where we can do that, but.
Kat
Okay, do you want me to read.
Amy
We have an email from Julie. Circling back to the email about crying. Kat is going to give it a go, and if she. If she's unable, you can take over to finish. I will take over.
Kat
I think I can do it since I've already read it once.
Amy
Are you sure?
Kat
Okay, here we go. I think I can do it since I've already read it once.
Amy
Are you sure?
Kat
Okay, here we go. Hey, girls. How are you? Making me nervous. I really feel like I'm, like, giving a speech right now. I can do this. I've been listening to the Bobby Bones show for well over 10 years, and so I've heard just about every episode of Four Things, Fifth thing, and every episode of Feeling Things. I totally understand. Okay, hold on. I'm not gonna cry. I just think I feel a lot of pressure. So. Okay.
Capital One Announcer
If.
Amy
If Julie is listening and y'. All will hear this email. Julie's the person that sent this in. If she's listening right now and you start crying, we know for a fact Julie's crying. Oh, yeah, she's gonna start crying.
Kat
I totally understand Cat's teary eyed feelings. I have always been a pretty sensitive person. My grandma used to tell me that I wore my feelings on my sleeves. But since having children, I have figured out that I cannot allow. This is what got me. Okay. I cannot allow anyone to cry alone in my presence. As Dolly Parton says and Steel Magnolias and this is me talking. I just think that is so sweet. It is sweet. Even just listening to you tear up on the podcast. Get tears in my eyes too. Okay. I could keep going, though. I also want. Are you crying? No. Okay. You're letting me cry alone.
Amy
You're crying. I know. I'm not like Julie. I mean, I'm not. I'm not pregnant. And I'm also not like Julie. I think that's very sweet. Yeah, I sometimes might be moved by someone crying, but we've tried to read this email multiple times even before, and you're still Cat's legit crying right now. No, it's okay. You can let it out.
Kat
The thing is, I'm not sad.
Amy
It's really sweet because this is sweet.
Kat
Yeah, this is sweet. Yes.
Amy
It's touching.
Kat
And I don't know if you guys remember, but I. I cried watching a video about somebody packing a hospital bag. Like, I've been crying at things that aren't emotional. Anyway, carry on. I can do this. I feel good about it. I also want to give you the best advice that I got for labor. Unfortunately, it was advice that I got when I was pregnant with my second child. But it helped me realize that it was a perfect simulation since I had already experienced it. You want to get some crunchy ice, like a bag from Sonic, and grab a big handful in your hand and squeeze it for one minute. Your hand will hurt. It hurts a lot. But the thing that makes the simulation so perfect is that when you let go, your hand goes completely back to normal. That is very much how a contraction feels. It hurts so bad when it's happening, but as soon as it's over, you feel completely back to normal.
Amy
What's sad now?
Kat
It just is like, I just think it's sweet. Like, that sentiment. Like, you can do it. Like, that's what I've been telling myself. Like, labor is going to be really scary, but you can do it.
Amy
Now I feel awful because you're crying and I'm laughing.
Kat
I cry more now than I was before.
Listener or Guest
I just.
Kat
This is just really sweet. I'm.
Listener or Guest
I'm.
Kat
Guys, I'm stable. If any of my clients are listening, like, I am stable.
Amy
Oh, she's. Cat's definitely stable.
Kat
Yeah, it just. I mean, I've cried with my clients more lately, too, but it's been appropriate. Okay. Carrying on. The other thing that helped me with labor is knowing that my body just knows what to do. My job is literally to relax. That's it. That's my only job. Just relax and let my body do what it needs to do. That helped me feel a lot less pressure, and I hope it helps you, too. I am a crazy labor lover, and when I had my third child, I cried because I knew it was the last time I would get to experience. Experience it. I think this is the most I've ever cried on this podcast, for sure. Praying that you also find joy, and not just the beautiful times of motherhood, but the painless, the painful times as well. Have the day. You need to have your friend Julie from Kansas, and she's 55. And, Julie, I wish I could give you a hug.
Amy
I know. And it's on. It's. It's hearing her say, when I had my third child, I cried because I knew it'd be the last time I get to experience it. For me, I feel like a part of me hasn't ever experienced it, and I've accepted that I won't. I've just accepted that I won't. However, could I maybe.
Kat
Maybe is a part of you.
Capital One Announcer
Maybe.
Amy
I think there's a part of me that really wants to know what it would be like to carry a baby and deliver it and have that bond. So, you know, that's a part I've had to grieve and let go. And so I can't imagine having experienced it and you know exactly what it's like, and you're having to grieve that it's a.
Kat
It's over, like, for her, but it's worse. I think they're both hard.
Amy
Yeah, they're both hard. I mean, I'm not. I'm not even really comparing them. It's just that all of us are having different feelings around labor. Someone's labor. Like, there might be someone's, like, yep, I delivered three. Never want to do it again. You know, there's just.
Kat
If that's you, don't send me an email. I don't need that. Ah, okay. Well, thanks for sticking with me. Through that, you did it.
Amy
I'm proud of you.
Kat
I'm stable. I just have a lot of feelings. And this email to me felt like a hug. Like it was. It almost felt like something like a mom would say to somebody.
Amy
Yes. You know, and she quoted Steel Magnolia such as. One of my top three favorite movies of all time.
Kat
I've never seen it.
Amy
Oh, we're watching that on our. Should we canyon? Yes. Should we. Yes. You are gonna. We'll both cry. We'll both cry.
Capital One Announcer
You'll.
Amy
You'll laugh. That's the thing about Steel Magnolias is you laugh. You cry. There's joy, family, all the feels. There's pain. Like, there's anger.
Kat
Okay. You think I can handle it? We might need, like to watch an episode of Schitt's Creek or something in between.
Amy
Yeah, sure, we can.
Kat
No, I. I cleanse the palette. But wait.
Amy
But there is humor. So you are laughing in the movie too.
Kat
Did you ever watch that movie with Elizabeth Olsen? It just came out. I can't think of the name of it, but it's about when she goes to heaven. Let's look it up. Because if you haven't watched that. We're watching that.
Amy
It's recent.
Kat
Yes.
Amy
Well, then I don't think I have seen it, because I feel like I would. Oh, eternity.
Kat
Yes. You haven't seen that.
Amy
Oh, it's so. It's funny. It says it's here. It's a comedy drama. I haven't seen it.
Kat
I boohooed. His, like was hysterically crying during that movie. Movie.
Amy
But it says it's a comedy.
Kat
It is.
Amy
So now are you gonna cry during Schitt's Creek?
Kat
There is an element to this. If you. If anybody listening has not watched this movie, I will say you. I don't want to say what it's about. Well, does it.
Amy
I don't. Okay.
Kat
It's a hard. I don't want to give anything away.
Amy
I think if. As long as you read what's on IMDb then it's. It's fine. Which is.
Listener or Guest
Says.
Amy
It says here, in an afterlife where souls have one week to decide where to spend etern, Joan is faced with the impossible choice between the man she spent her life with and her first love, who died young and has waited decades for her to arrive. Oh, man. Yeah, that sounds hard. You're crying. You're crying. I read the. I just read the plot of the movie.
Kat
It's a really good movie, and I really. We're gonna watch it. I'm good. I'm just gonna say I'm gonna cry. I don't know that you will, but I think you'll like the movie. I don't want to say anything else about it, but. Okay, that's my recommendation. And then I'll watch Still Magnolias for you. Unless you are against watching this movie. I don't want to force you.
Amy
No, I want to watch it. This looks good. I'm checking. It's. I mean, it's. Yeah. PG 13.
Kat
Let's see.
Amy
What? Steel.
Kat
If it was R, would you not watch it?
Amy
No. I guess I'm just used to looking at ratings. Let's see. Pg. Steel Magnolia says pg, so.
Kat
Okay, so we're good.
Amy
But that's interesting. I feel like some of it would actually be.
Kat
Do you think the range was different back then? Like, it was like.
Amy
Maybe. I mean, you're dealing with, like. There's some.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
Harsh comments from some of the characters. Death. Okay. It says, a young beautician newly arrived in a small town in Louisiana. She finds work at the local salon where a small group of women share a close bond of friendship and welcome her into the fold. That definitely doesn't give anything away.
Kat
No, I have no idea what it's about.
Amy
But you know that Dolly says in the movie.
Kat
Yeah.
Amy
I cannot allow anyone to cry alone in my presence. They all have accents. And she's. She. She has. She has babies, and you're having a baby, and she's getting married, and you got married. There's a lot of similarities. You've gotten your hair done before. They have a hair salon. There's a line in the movie where she's. Her colors are pink and pink. And I think it's her mom that says something like, your colors are pink and pink. And she goes, my colors are blush and bashful.
Kat
Oh, what does she mean by that?
Amy
Very specific. Those are her specific pink colors. They're not just pink and pink.
Kat
Oh. Can I give an update on my paint color for my baby room?
Listener or Guest
Now?
Kat
You said that.
Amy
Absolutely.
Kat
So you know how we talked about hushed auburn and people have been invested in this? Well, about three or four people that have messaged me about it.
Amy
Hushed auburn is a paint color.
Kat
Yeah. Hush auburn is a paint color from Sherwin Williams. It is a color that looks. When you see it online, it kind of looks like a mauve color, but it's actually a more brownie orangey. So update. You had convinced me to use it because then if I have a boy, I don't have to repaint the room because it wasn't actually pink. Well, I did a little testing. I learned a great lesson. Do not just paint your house the color because it looked good on a TikTok. Paint it in that specific, specific room because depending on the light or whatever, it might look different. This hushed auburn in my. In the nursery room looked. I mean, I don't know if I sent you the pictures. I think I did. It looked like a love rust. Like just straight up rust, which wasn't.
Amy
That's not the vibe.
Kat
So I ended up going this very. This surprised me. I ended up going with an actual pink. It's called Dressy Rose and it's a, like a subtle pink color. It actually looks really good. I like it. I didn't think I would like a pink room, but if you're looking for a pink color for your nursery, I suggest look at Dressy Rose.
Amy
Dressy Rose.
Kat
Dressy Rose. Okay.
Amy
And then, I mean for your son, you. If you have a boy, you can just.
Kat
Well, I think I decided I'm making this room super cute. She's gonna stay in there.
Amy
Okay.
Kat
And then we'll just. Also, I hear second kids you like are like, oh, here's the closet.
Amy
I think a crib will fit in here.
Kat
The room's painted gray already, so it's fine.
Amy
Okay. Well, thank you all for sending in voicemails and emails. I know this isn't couch talks, but we threw some in here today just because we thought they were follow ups of stuff we talked about before on Feeling Things. And we love hearing from y'. All. So hit us up. 877-207-2077 is where you can leave us a message. As always, we love your name, where you're calling from, and your age if you're willing to share, but no pressure. You can also remain anonymous. Just let us know. You can send an email as well. Hey there at feeling things podcast.com and we hope wherever you are right now, whatever it is that you're doing that you have the day you need to have. Bye.
Kat
Bye. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
The Bobby Bones Show – "FEELING THINGS: The Silly Little Star Chart That Changed Everything"
Date: July 4, 2026
Hosts: Amy & Kat
This episode of "Feeling Things" with Amy and Kat dives deep into everyday emotions, quirky habits, social observations, and listener connections. The main theme centers on processing feelings big and small, discovering new ways to motivate yourself (hello, Silly Little Star Chart!), and fostering meaningful relationships through questions and thoughtful communication. The hosts share lighthearted banter, explore social etiquette, and highlight memorable listener stories that tie together ideas on growth, vulnerability, and humor.
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The episode is candid, humorous, and heartfelt, featuring emotional depth, playful banter, and community spirit. Amy and Kat create a space for laughing at life’s little messes, sharing practical and emotional tips, and finding lightness in vulnerability. Whether you’re looking for encouragement to try new things, dreaming up sticker charts to boost your habits, or need friendly voices on tough days—this episode delivers all the feels.
For more: Send emails to hey there at feeling things podcast dot com or call 877-207-2077. And as always, have the day you need to have!