FEELING THINGS - When Opposites Attract, The Sudoku Packing Method & More (Couch Talks)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – "FEELING THINGS: When Opposites Attract, The Sudoku Packing Method & More (Couch Talks)"

Date: June 21, 2026
Hosts: Amy & Kat
Episode Theme: Navigating Differences in Relationships, Creative Packing Tips, and The Comfort of Laughter Through Grief

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Overview

This episode of the “Feeling Things” segment from The Bobby Bones Show is a Couch Talks special—meaning it’s built around listener questions, stories, and interactive feedback. Amy and Kat dive deep into the dynamics of “opposites attract” in relationships—specifically, how different personalities can mix (or clash) around something as everyday as packing for trips. The duo offers practical advice, shares personal travel stories, details the viral “Sudoku Packing Method,” and spotlights the healing power of humor, even in hard times.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Question: Opposite Packing Personalities in Marriage

Timestamp: 02:57-16:05

• Amber’s Dilemma: Amber, a newlywed, writes in about how her last-minute packing style stresses out her husband, who prefers to pack well in advance. She asks for advice on minimizing pre-trip conflict (05:32).
• Amy & Kat’s Relatability: Both hosts immediately resonate with the issue, noting their own long-standing differences in packing habits—Amy packs late and thrives under pressure, while Kat prefers to prepare several days ahead to lessen anxiety (07:24–09:01).
• Notable Quote (Amy, 07:01):

  "It is no fun to have tension going into something that's supposed to be fun. And I didn't want to be that way. It just was the way that I was... I have tried to evolve and mature. I got better."

• Personal Anecdote (Kat, 09:37):

  "I am a 2 hour early get to the airport person... We were in New York, so you never know how long it’s going to take to get to the airport, you know?... I was getting really anxious, and then in my head, I probably was annoyed with you."

• Solution Discussion:
  • Both agree that compromise is crucial. They recount that communication about respective needs and “stretching” a little can help: set a concrete time to leave and agree on it; let consequences fall where they may if someone forgets to pack properly (11:07–13:25).
  • Accountability and “mirroring” (body doubling) can help last-minute packers get ahead, especially if anxiety isn’t a motivator (14:01–15:00).
• Notable Quote (Amy, 14:01):

  "If someone else is doing a task that you need to do, I am able to actually do it when I have a buddy... Look at your husband as your buddy and go ahead and knock it out. Get it done with him."

2. The Sudoku Packing Method: Minimalist Travel Packing

Timestamp: 19:29–24:07

• The Method Explained (Amy, 19:40):
  • Inspired by the Sudoku puzzle grid, you pick three tops, three bottoms, three layers, all color-coordinated; each row, column, and diagonal forms a complete outfit, giving you up to 27 combinations.
• Notable Quote (Amy, 20:34):

  “From the Sudoku method, you can create more than 27 combinations by mixing pieces across diagonal lines. Isn’t that crazy?”

• Kat’s Reaction (20:34):

  “That is blowing my mind.”

• Packing Tech Hacks:
  • They discuss vacuum-sealed packing cubes and a viral jacket with built-in compartments for all your travel items (22:36–23:51).
  • Kat expresses curiosity about practicality and comfort with such inventions.
• Packing for Their Own Trip:
  • Amy and Kat plan for their upcoming spa vacation—considering whether to pack makeup, counting on mostly “athleisure and cozy” clothes. They agree that packing light reduces stress and fosters spontaneity (24:22–25:08).

3. The Power of Accountability and Change

Timestamp: 25:11–27:12

• Amy’s Story:
  • Amy recounts a previous Bobby Bones Show segment in which she stopped “snoozing” her alarm, thanks to an assigned listener accountability buddy. She draws parallels between breaking an old habit and changing one’s packing style.
• Notable Quote (Amy, 26:52):

  “And it [accountability buddy] helped. And I don't snooze anymore... So I guess that example alone shows us, Amber, that we can change. We can be different packers. We can do things differently.”

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Listener Voicemail: Laughter as Healing in Loss

Timestamp: 31:26–35:11

• Darl’s Voicemail:
  • Darl from California calls in, sharing that after the loss of her husband 17 months ago, laughter from Amy and Kat’s podcast episodes has been a healing help (32:42).
  • She references the now-infamous “farting” topic, making her own joke: “Have the fart you need to have.”
• Notable Quote (Darl, 32:42):

  "It's been really fun for me to have something to listen to and to laugh... It's been really healing for me."

• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • Amy and Kat express gratitude for Darl’s vulnerability, reflect on the importance of allowing oneself to heal and laugh after loss, and acknowledge others who might be in similar positions (33:12–35:11).
• Notable Quote (Amy, 34:45):

  “Life can go on, and you can also still be sad for what has happened and be excited about what's to come and have moments of joy and laughter. And I hope that you're never feeling guilty about that.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Amy, on Compromise (11:59):

  "Let other people have their consequences... If you aren't ready in time and you have to throw stuff in a suitcase and go out the door and you don't know what you have, that's a you problem, not a me problem."

• Sudoku Method Revelation (Amy, 19:40):

  "So you select three tops, three bottoms, and three layers that are versatile and color coordinated... Every row, column, and diagonal line forms a complete stylish outfit."

• Sudoku Method’s Impact (Kat, 20:34):

  “That is blowing my mind.”

• On Surprising Influence (Amy, 32:54):

  “I love that she was saying it [“have the fart you need to have”]. It was making her laugh. I think that's really precious.”

• Gratitude for Listener Community (Amy, 35:11):

  "We'd love to hear from y'all... We're all in this together."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Start | End | |--------------------------------------------------|----------|----------| | Packing Differences & Compromise Advice | 02:57 | 16:05 | | The Sudoku Packing Method & Packing Hacks | 19:29 | 24:07 | | Amy’s Snooze Story, Change & Accountability | 25:11 | 27:12 | | Darl’s Voicemail: Grief, Laughter, and Healing | 31:26 | 35:11 |

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Tone & Style

• The episode feels friendly, real, and supportive—balancing silliness (“farting” emails), tactical life advice, and genuine reflection on how humor and community get us through tough seasons.
• Listeners are regularly invited in, validating both everyday struggles and deeper challenges, always with warmth and encouragement.

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Takeaways

• Open Communication in Relationships: Speaking up about your needs and finding a midpoint is vital, whether you’re an early or late packer.
• Life Hacks: The Sudoku packing method is a game-changer for stress-free, light travel.
• Growth is Possible: With support and intentionality, old habits (like last-minute packing or snoozing) can change.
• Laughter Heals: Even in seasons of grief, it’s okay—and healthy—to find moments of joy.

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How to Connect

• Listeners are encouraged to send in questions or stories at FeelingThingsPodcast.com or via the show’s voicemail line at [phone].

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“Have the day you need to have.” – Amy & Kat

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Transcript

[Kat]

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[Amy]

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[Kal Penn]

Feel things.

[Amy]

This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Thursday. Welcome to Couch Talks. Our listener interaction episodes of how do we say this? Let's just roll this out in real time. We were doing listener Q and A and we do have a listener question, but sometimes we just have input from other listeners. So that's why I wanted to call it listener interaction.

[Kat]

It didn't sound as good as this.

[Amy]

It just doesn't. So try this again.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Happy Thursday. Welcome to Couch Talks. The listener Q and A to our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy.

[Kat]

And I'm Kat.

[Amy]

And our question today comes from Amber. And I will say we have a good voicemail after we get into this, that it's not all about farting, but she does mention it. And she has some other things, too. She is a widow, and she has multifaceted gratitude for the podcast and what it's given her. So I'm thankful. I'll just say if we had a tally for how many emails and voicemails we got about this topic of passing gas, whatever you want to call it, it wins of the entire podcast, even before we evolved into Feeling Things. Four things, fifth thing, Feeling Things, Couch talks.

[Kat]

This is the topic that you guys want to share.

[Amy]

Y' all love talking about. And we are drawing a line in the sand now. It's the sand, so that can go away. If you have something so epic you need to share with us around this, please do so and maybe we'll bring it back up again. Love that it's something that's resonated with y' all and you're having a good time with it, but we need to get back to regular scheduled programming.

[Kat]

Well, and I think it's. It's more. So we don't want every week for us to be like, okay, it's time to talk about this again. Like, it's not. We don't. We appreciate the. In the emails and the voicemails are funny, and we appreciate them. And also, we love. Anytime somebody reaches out to us, we just feel bad that you're sending us this content, and eventually we're gonna have to not be able to use it anymore.

[Amy]

Right.

[Kat]

It's.

[Amy]

It's gonna get old, and some people are uncomfortable with it, quite honestly. I am a little bit, but I don't.

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[Amy]

I'm evolving. Like, I don't mind. I feel like I've talked more about that in the last few weeks than I've ever talked about in my entire life, and it's great to talk about it. So I can't wait to play the voicemail because it's super cute. So we'll get to the email first from Amber. Hey, I love that y' all are going on a trip together, which some backstory here. This is me talking off the email, but Kat and I leave in a couple of weeks for a little vacation together. It's not the first trip we've taken together, and we were talking about it on the show or a few episodes back, how we're going to Canyon Ranch and really excited about it. It's official. Everything's booked, and I have a lot of anticipation for it. So that'd be my feeling of the day. Towards that is anticipation. It's going to be epic.

[Kat]

Looking forward to something.

[Amy]

I know I cannot wait. So that's what she's referencing here. Your trip got me thinking about how I have some travel this summer, and my packing stresses my husband out. He likes to pack way in advance, and I pack at the last minute. It always causes some sort of conflict before a trip when we should be focused on a vacation and having a good time. How has it been in your relationships when it comes to packing personalities? Is there hope for a middle ground with me and my husband? I know this seems like a silly topic, but I want to create less tension, and I figured y' all might have some tips for me. Have the day you need to have. Amber, 32 and newly married, Austin, Texas.

[Kat]

Oh, man.

[Amy]

It's interesting. I feel like, am I Amber and you or her husband? Which I know when she says relationship, she's talking about our partners.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because I was married for 17 years and we were very different. And I have no idea, honestly, what you and Patrick are like together. I know how you and I are together, and that's why I'm Amber and you're her husband.

[Kat]

Wait, what were you and your ex husband like?

[Amy]

Because I imagine he was very organized, very on time, wanted to get to the airport way early, packed way in advance.

[Kat]

Did y' all fight over that?

[Amy]

Yeah, we would have conflict.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I was running behind. I was always packing last minutes the night before, the morning of staying up late packing. So therefore, I was tired and it was hard to get up and he would get annoyed.

[Kat]

Yeah.

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[Amy]

Yeah. It is no fun to have tension going into something that's supposed to be fun. And I didn't want to be that way. It just was the way that I was. And I say was because I've tried to evolve a bit and mature. I have. I got better. I feel like the last trip I went on, I was packing way in advance. I think I even talked about it.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah. I talked about it on the podcast. That I was proud of myself for using tools and put all your outfits together to try to just force myself to do it, even though I feel like I pack better. And maybe that's the story I'm telling myself, but I pack better under pressure and I'm able to get it all done. Doing it before is taxing. However, I showed myself that I can do it and I know that it's possible. And I must say, it does feel a little nice to be just that much less stressed walking out the door.

[Kat]

I have been at your house. You are leaving for a trip in like that morning, and you have not been packed like an hour before you're supposed to leave. It blows it. Honestly, it doesn't bother me because, like, your passion is not going to affect me. Blows my mind. Like that. You can that one. You seem okay about it. I'm like, what is it like to live like that? Like, I almost want a little bit of your energy because I'm going on a trip in a. What is today? One, two, three. I'm leaving in four days. I packed two days ago.

[Amy]

That's so interesting because in a lot of ways we are so the same, especially with our adhd. We're very similar. You with travel and packing. Like you just said, when you've been here and I'm packing for something that you're not going on, it doesn't impact you. Your mind is blown. However, we have traveled together where it has impacted you and you have been very, very anxious.

[Kat]

Yeah. I was gonna say, I think it blows my mind. I'm like, a little jealous because I. Mine is fueled by anxiety. It's not fueled. I don't like packing. It's not like, oh, I'm so excited. I'm gonna pack right now. It's like, I have to get this done. So I make sure I have everything so I'm not missing anything last minute that. So everything can be washed. Like, it's more. I need to be ready to go. So there was this one time that Amy and I went to New York and we flew there separately. No big deal. We were flying back together and I. This was how many years ago? Three years ago.

[Amy]

Three or four. Yeah.

[Kat]

So never really experienced this kind of thing. I didn't know what kind of flyer you were. I am a 2 hour early get to the airport person. We were also in. We were in New York, so you never know how long it's going to take to get to the airport, you know?

[Amy]

You know, traffic is the thing.

[Kat]

Yeah. I swear our flight was like taking off in an hour and a half and we still hadn't left.

[Amy]

And I was totally fine with that.

[Kat]

I was trying to. This was a lesson for me. I was trying so hard to be so cool and not be annoying or naggy. I probably asked a couple times, like, is it time to go yet? And you're like, oh, we'll go in a second.

[Amy]

Gotta get a bagel.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

And I remember specifically sitting in the car on. In the Uber on the way to the airport, like, continuously, like, looking at my phone, looking at the time, like, calculating things, because I was so stressed that we were not going to have enough time, and it was not worth it for me. I wish that I would have. This is a lesson for me. Not. It's not anything about you. It's. I should have said, hey, it's important to me to leave. At least this time I can meet you in the middle. We don't have to be there two hours early. I do understand that that's excessive, especially if we're not, like, checking the bag. And it would really be really helpful for me to leave at this time just to have a little bit of a cushion. But I didn't do that because I wanted to be cool. So then what happened is I was getting really anxious, and then in my head, I probably was annoyed with you.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I don't remember if I was, but I imagine that I would be.

[Amy]

If you were annoyed, you were hiding it. Because I didn't sense annoyance, but I did sense your. Your anxiety, and I felt bad. And I do like the idea of meeting in the middle. So back to Amber's email. We both could have stretched a little bit on that trip. Like, but you have to vocalize. So if you had vocalized that I could have met you a little bit, and you could have met me a little bit, and we stretch. And so with Amber and her husband, there needs to be some stressing. Stretching. Excuse me. So that there's not the tension. She needs to try to put in some effort to pack a little bit early. And then he needs to have a little understanding that she may not be packed as early as him. But as long as they set a time to walk out the door for their trip, if they both can honor and respect that, then they both should feel good about it. And then there's no tension on the front end of the trip.

[Kat]

Yeah. And what I'm thinking about, too, is because the way you pack, like, again, it does. It, in a way stresses me out, but not really, because if. If you. You don't pack correctly or you miss things or whatever, like, it. That's not affecting me, that's affecting you. So I wonder, too, like, for your husband, what is it about your packing that. Is he worried that because you're doing it last minute that you're going to forget something and that's going to impact him because the consequence is going to be on you. And I always like to remind people, like, let other people have their consequences. Like if you aren't ready in time and you have to throw stuff in a suitcase and go out the door and you don't know what you have, that's a you problem, not a me problem. And I don't have to be responsible for that. So if you guys even have a conversation around that of like, I. If. If my packing ends up being a problem for me, I'm not expecting you to fix my problem.

[Amy]

I'll be responsible for as long as her packing, which we don't have the details here, aren't impacting what time they get out the door.

[Kat]

Well, that would. Yeah, I think that would have to be agreed. That they leave at a certain time

[Amy]

because say he's like you and he wants to be at the airport two hours early, which I think ridiculous. They may need to, you know, me in the middle. Hey, how about if I guarantee as long as I'm packed, even if I'm packing right up until the last minute, but I guarantee you that we'll be out the door to get to the airport with an hour and a half to spare.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Is that. That's stretching, right, for both of them.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because he's going to have to be like, okay, fine, I give you the 30 minutes or you go to the airport separately, which is really annoying.

[Kat]

It could be expensive depending on how.

[Amy]

Cuz my Uber to the airport is crazy these days where I'm like, what?

[Kat]

No, we've started driving to the airport now that we live farther away.

[Amy]

Sometimes it's hard to find parking though.

[Kat]

Yes, you have to check. You got to check the parking lots if they're full before you get there. They also increase the price of the cheaper parking lot. But the crazy thing is sometimes it's cheaper to park for a week than take an Uber. Uber back and forth. Nuts.

[Amy]

Nuts. Yeah. So, Amber, we hope that you can find a way to stretch. I don't know that Kat and I have a lot to offer. I can just speak from experience that I truly have implemented a little bit of a different packing strategy. And I tr. I'm trying to get ahead. And I gotta say, it does feel better. It does. There's no way around it. Yes. Takes a little more effort on my part. And I don't know what it is about you that puts it off for me. I do put it in to my ADHD category because under pressure, I perform. So under the pressure of packing I'm able to finally make decisions. When I don't have that pressure, it's hard for me to figure out, well, what outfits do I want to wear Now? Kat also has adhd, but what Kat has, I don't have a lot of his anxiety, so that helps her. You may not have that. So if you're like me, then just do the mirroring. Maybe when your husband's packing, be like, oh, I should go join in on that and do it with him because that's something that helps me. The bottle, double, the body doubling, the mirroring, whatever you want to call it. If someone else is doing a task that you need to do, I am able to actually do it when I have a buddy. So look at your husband as your buddy and go ahead and knock it out. Get it done with him. And he might be like, this is so hot. I am so attracted to you right now. And then you'll be like, sweet. Now that I'm done with packing, can we just get to the airport a little bit later and show the stretch? And then there might be a totally different area in Yalls relationship where he gets to stretch a little more because he saw the effort that you put into that. So good luck and have fun on your trip. Yeah. And hopefully if you do enter with a little bit of conflict at the beginning, it resolves quickly because it's definitely not worth wasting, you know, a good trip on drama like that.

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[Amy]

Speaking of packing, something that's been popping up in my algorithm a lot lately is the Sudoku method. Have you heard of the.

[Kat]

No. Is this related to like the little numbers game?

[Amy]

It's like the game because it's squares. So how you do it? It's A three by three grid with nine core items. I saw a mom doing this with her children when she was packing them for a vacation. And then I've seen adults do it too. Especially if they're taking, you know, an overseas type trip, but they don't want to lug this huge thing of luggage. It's a way for them to maximize outfits but still be able to fit their trip into a carry on even though they're gone for a while. So you select three tops, three bottoms, and three layers that are versatile and color coordinated. You arrange items into a grid. Ensure each row and column contains one top, one bottom, and one layer. Every row, column, and diagonal line forms a complete stylish outfit. From the Sudoku method, you can create more than 27 combinations by mixing pieces across diagonal lines. Isn't that crazy?

[Kat]

That is blowing my mind.

[Amy]

Yeah. I don't know who originally thought of this. I've just seen it on my for me stuff and I don't know, maybe because, listen, my for me page or for you page, fyp, whatever it's called. It is a lot of foods, weird eating things. People buying food on Facebook Marketplace, and I watch them eat the whole thing in their car. I'm very intrigued by that. Especially when they eat crab in their car and they're Facebook Marketplace and they snap the crab open and crap crabs flying everywhere. I'm like, I don't even know rage bait, though, what your car smells like.

[Kat]

I think that's a little rage baity right there maybe.

[Amy]

And also lately it's been packing methods. So maybe because I've been talking about how I have a trip coming up, but you can Google this in case you didn't memorize everything I just said. But three tops, three bottoms, three layers, and then you organize the columns.

[Kat]

So the trick with this, though is everything has to match.

[Amy]

It has to color coordinate.

[Kat]

Okay, so this is my pro. This is genius. And I think I'd. I'd like to use this. This sounds nice, but like, you know, there's sometimes just like an outfit you want to bring on vacation and it doesn't go with anything else, you know?

[Amy]

Well, sure, you can toss that in for good measure. Because this is just a tip. If you need a lot of outfits and you don't want to pack a bunch of unnecessary things.

[Kat]

Like when you were saying overseas, I think this would have been really helpful when we went to. I packed in a carry on to Italy for 10 days. But what I used is shove everything in one of those bags that the cubes that zips and like seals. Vacuum seals.

[Amy]

How does it.

[Kat]

You.

[Amy]

You. You have one of those.

[Kat]

It didn't. It didn't. But it. It smushed like you zip it and then you zip it again and so it's smush. I fit a Barefoot Dreams blanket into one of these things so I could have my own blanket on the airplane.

[Amy]

That's crazy.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because those things are fluffy. Are fluffy. Have you seen the jacket? This might have been an ad online or someone just happened to have one. But it's a jacket that has compartments all throughout it that sort of suck everything up. And you can. Whatever you're packing, like, it just makes everything really tight. And when you walk on the plane, your jacket is your carry on so.

[Kat]

Well, yes.

[Amy]

Like, you can fit like, there's certain pockets for your toiletries. There's certain pockets for all your clothes. And the jacket is full of these compartments that just suck everything up. And then you throw the jacket on and you board the flight and it's like ready to go. And so then you can take on even another carry on full of things because you've got all this other stuff in your. In your jacket. So you can take a jacket on.

[Kat]

I would love to see the jacket fully packed on somebody. Like, do they look like they have a carry on in their jacket or does it look like just like a.

[Amy]

It looked pretty. Pretty. Wow.

[Kat]

So this would also only work in the colder seasons, right? Was it. I imagine it'd be a thicker check.

[Amy]

I mean, I guess. But you can. I mean, you just have to put it on when you're boarding the plane and then when you get off, take it off and just carry it.

[Kat]

Who invented that? But what a smart invention.

[Amy]

But then also, how heavy is the jacket?

[Kat]

It's like a weighted vest. So more than a weighted vest, because my. My suitcase is probably going to be a good £50. So that. That would be a heavy jacket for.

[Darl]

For your.

[Amy]

Your suitcase for what?

[Kat]

For my trip I'm about to go on. Oh, not the trip we're gonna go on, I think.

[Kal Penn]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because I'm like, wait, I think our trip, honestly, I was thinking about it. We can get away with packing a swimsuit and some athleisure.

[Kat]

Two swimsuits.

[Amy]

Okay. Okay. Some swimsuits, some athleisure, I guess wear is what you call it, right? Just casual. And then maybe a dress in case one night we decide, should we wear a dress to dinner? But I doubt.

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[Kat]

What do people wear there? I was thinking we'd be in Cozy clothes.

[Amy]

I think cozy clothes the whole time. But what if. Just. What if we want to look cute for a vibe?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

But I doubt it. We'll probably be makeup free, just living our best spa life.

[Kat]

Yes. It was like, oh, that's the best. When you don't. That's why I love going to, like, the beach or the lake or something for vacation, because I will just be in a bathing suit and T shirt and shorts with. Don't do my hair. Don't do my makeup. Like, you don't need anything. Those are the best trips.

[Amy]

Maybe we just shouldn't even pack makeup. Why would we pack it?

[Kat]

Why would we pack it? We need sunscreen. Tinted sunscreen.

[Bowen Yang]

Huh?

[Amy]

What?

[Ray Porter]

Wow.

[Amy]

Okay, well, I'm gonna be packed and ready to go before, like, I'm trying to. We barely need to take anything.

[Darl]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So, look, this is a trip. We'll all be packed and ready to go.

[Kat]

We need to cover up a baby.

[Amy]

I'm gonna pack tonight even though we're. Okay. Okay. Maybe that's my goal to myself, to pack a week in advance. And, Amber, well, you don't need to do a week.

[Kat]

That's a little bit of.

[Amy]

Well, okay. But. But I can set my own goals.

[Kat]

I'm sorry. I was just saying I don't. You don't have to go from one extreme to the other. You can.

[Amy]

Well, I'll get. Okay. Four to five days before the trip. I want to be packed. And honestly, I might need to, because I'm gonna be working right up until we leave.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So if I want to have a good work week, we roll out early the next morning. And if I don't get ahead of it, then I am going to be packing late at night right before the trip, because I have so much work to get done before we head off on vacation. And, Amber, what I was going to say for you is, you know, the buddy system helps. Like, I'll be your buddy. A long time ago on the Bobby Bones Show, I was a snoozer, and I was trying to quit snoozing. And a listener called in and said, I want to quit snoozing. Snoozing, too. I'll be Amy's accountability partner. And so Bobby assigned us as buddies, like me and a listener. And she would call in, give reports. Like, I felt like now I had this responsibility because I'm an accountability partner to this listener, and it helped. And I don't snooze anymore. And I was a proud snoozer. I loved snoozing.

[Kat]

You set your alarm early so you could snooze?

[Amy]

Yes, sure did. And it felt great. And I thought, well, this is just who I am and there's no changing it. So I guess that example alone shows us, Amber, that we can change. We can be different packers. We can do things differently. And if I'm letting know that I'm going to try, then you can try. And we'll be accountability partners.

[Kat]

Amen.

[Amy]

Amen.

[Kat]

We'll see how this goes. I can't wait to see how your packing goes for this trip.

[Amy]

We can move on to our voicemail.

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[Ray Porter]

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[Kal Penn]

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[Amy]

we can move on to our voicemail about you know what the topic we shall shall not say. But it's more towards the end of the voicemail we'll just go ahead and and play it. Here it is.

[Darl]

My name is Darl and I'm from California and I am almost 57 this month and I just wanted to tell you guys that you guys just crack me up. There's never an episode that I listen to that I'm not laughing at something. And I just love the banter that you guys have back and forth and like how you just talk about random things all the time and just, it's just so fun. It's like listening to two friends and you do feel like you're part of the friendship here and so it's just so much fun, and it's been really healing for me. My husband passed away 17 months ago, and it's been really fun for me to have something to listen to and to laugh and. And I've loved the episodes where you've talked about loss, and I've just really connected with that. About the farting thing, I know you don't probably want more farting stuff, but it's just so funny. I just was laughing as well, and actually Amy said something about, I don't know, fart away or have a fart away. And I. I said, have the fart you need to have. I just thought I was laughing at myself. My own little joke. Anyway, I am. I just love you guys, and I really appreciate your show, and it's so fun, and I'll listen to you again soon. Bye. Bye.

[Amy]

All right, so that's kind of cute. Have the fart you need to have.

[Kat]

What's it feel like saying that? If you like it. Yeah.

[Amy]

It's like, okay, that's kind of cute. And I love that it was. I love that she was saying it. It was making her laugh.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I think that that's really precious.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And she took the time to call us about it, and I'm very sorry about your loss. 17 months is still so fresh, and I know it's different, but dating a widower, I know that it's just not easy at all. And we've had listeners even write in that have lost their loved ones, and in that way, they're their significant other, their partner, and so you're not alone. There are others listening that are in your shoes. And I'm just thankful that you have found probably several things that bring you joy, and to know that our podcast is one of them is really special. So thank you for sharing that and that, yeah, you are able to laugh because someone might be in your situation and it's a little more fresh, and they may think, am I ever gonna laugh again? Or is it okay to laugh? Or I feel guilty laughing. I know that was something with my ex boyfriend of just having to move on with his life and even start dating again. I don't. I know you're 57. That might be something you consider down the line. 57 is still young.

[Kat]

You have a lot of life.

[Amy]

You have a lot of life.

[Kat]

And I just think, too look at the, like, silly way. Like when we did that segment on the. You know what, we didn't really know where that was going to go, but if that little thing can Bring, I mean, joy. Even you laughing to yourself saying, have the fart you need to have. That is good for us to hear when sometimes we're like, is this dumb? Is anybody gonna. What are people gonna think?

[Amy]

It's like helping anybody?

[Kat]

Yes. This seems so. Helping somebody.

[Amy]

Yes. It's something like you needed, and you got to laugh from it.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And I know you didn't ask us any advice about dating or moving on, and I know it may be way too soon for that. I'm just saying it's showing that, you know, life can go on, and you can also still be sad for what has happened and be excited about what's to come and have moments of joy and laughter. And I hope that you're never feeling guilty about that.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So there you go. We'd love to hear from y'.

[Darl]

All.

[Amy]

Hey, there. At FeelingThingsPodcast.com is where you can send emails for couch talks if you've got questions. They could be about anything. Except for now, maybe not. You know what? Unless it's epic. If you have an epic you know what story, then send it in.

[Kat]

I don't know what an epic, you know what story would be that could be scary.

[Amy]

Who knows? I feel like have the fart you need to have is pretty epic. I love that she thought that. So you know, you know the rules. We drew the line in the sand, but we can. We can get rid. We can smudge it out. We're flexible, we're bendy. We can stretch.

[Kat]

Yeah, we're stretchy.

[Amy]

We're breezy. Yeah. If you want to call us, obviously. We love hearing from you both ways. It's fun to hear people's voices.

[Kat]

I love the voicemails.

[Amy]

So do I. But I get that some people are like, no way. I would never call a voicemail. That feels weird. I would challenge you if that feels weird, but you still feel like you have a question or something to contribute. Challenge yourself.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Stretch.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Opportunity to experiment because we're all in this together.

[Kat]

Were you trying to sing that?

[Amy]

We're all in this together. We're, like, started to have fun. Okay. The phone number 877-207-2077. Call us, email us, and have the

[Kat]

day you need to have.

[Amy]

Bye.

[Kat]

Bye.

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[Kat]

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