First Stall Theory, Face Fitness, & Feeling Your Way to Better Decisions (5th Thing)

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show Episode: First Stall Theory, Face Fitness, & Feeling Your Way to Better Decisions (5th Thing) Release Date: January 28, 2025

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1. First Stall Theory

[01:46 - 06:21]

Kat introduces the concept of the "First Stall Theory," inspired by Colleen Hoover's book November 9th. The theory posits that the first stall in a public restroom is the least used and therefore the cleanest, based on the idea that most people prefer the middle stalls for their centrality. Kat shares her personal experience of opting for the first stall twice during a doctor's appointment due to the occupancy of the other stalls.

Kat:
"I went twice. I went before my appointment, first stall. And then after my appointment, guess why I had to go in the first one because the other two were occupied."
[03:00]

Mila and Kat delve into whether this behavior is widespread among women, discussing the discomfort and inconvenience of using public restrooms efficiently. They coin "centrality preference" as the tendency to choose middle stalls when available.

Mila:
"I wonder if that's a thing around a lot of women. I find it such an inconvenience to have to go to the bathroom. But it is really bad for you to hold it that long."
[06:29]

2. Life Decisions and Emotions

[06:56 - 07:58]

Mila introduces a poignant quote from Adam Grant, emphasizing the importance of long-term values over short-term emotions in making life decisions.

Mila:
"Life decisions shouldn't be based on short term emotions. They should be guided by long term values. Feelings are better mirrors than maps. They reflect your present states, but they don't come with future directions."
[07:00]

Kat and Mila discuss the relevance of this philosophy, acknowledging how emotions can sometimes lead to impulsive decisions that may not align with one's long-term goals. They reflect on the challenge of balancing emotional intuition with rational planning.

Kat:
"Sometimes just making decisions when you're all emotional just feels like the right thing to do. But then later, that's when you're like, wasn't the best decision."
[07:52]

3. Listener Update: Taylor's Story

[18:56 - 23:33]

Kat shares a heartfelt email from Taylor in Virginia Beach, who expresses gratitude for the show's support during a tumultuous period in her life. Taylor recounts overcoming significant challenges, including her husband's deployment, her mother's passing from breast cancer, and her son's diagnosis with autism.

Taylor's Email Excerpt:
"God used your podcast to help me through that time is an understatement. [...] I won't just survive, but by the grace of God, I may just even thrive."
[18:56]

Kat and Mila respond with empathy, acknowledging Taylor's resilience and sharing their own experiences with supporting loved ones during difficult times. They highlight the importance of community and shared stories in fostering strength and hope.

Kat:
"Taylor's words are going to encourage somebody else who's going through a tough season to know that they can make it out on the other side."
[22:00]

4. Face Fitness and Self-Care

[27:33 - 36:14]

The conversation shifts to face fitness, where Kat discusses her new skincare routine inspired by YouTube tutorials. She explains the connection between neck muscle relaxation and facial aesthetics, describing techniques to alleviate tension and promote a relaxed appearance.

Kat:
"I've learned that relaxing the muscles in the neck is very for your face, like you wouldn't think. But if these muscles are tight, that's what pulls down, and that starts to pull your face down."
[33:08]

Mila and Kat exchange tips on incorporating skincare into daily routines, emphasizing the importance of consistency for visible results. They humorously debate the practicality of adopting new habits amidst busy schedules.

Mila:
"I've never thought to put skincare on my hands. I don't even really wear lotion on my hands."
[28:32]

5. Book Discussions: November 9th and Fourth Wing

[36:14 - 49:43]

Kat introduces two books that have captured her attention: Colleen Hoover's November 9th and Fourth Wing. She provides a synopsis of November 9th, highlighting its unique premise where two characters meet and reconnect annually on the same date without prior contact details.

Kat:
"Fallon meets Ben, an aspiring novelist, the day before her scheduled cross country move. Their untimely attraction leads to them spending Fallon's last day in LA together."
[48:45]

The discussion then moves to Fourth Wing, a high-fantasy novel featuring dragons, which Mila finds intriguing despite initial reservations about its romantic elements. They debate the merits of pure romance versus "romantasy" genres, considering the narrative depth and character development.

Mila:
"This book had a love scene in there too, and was an audiobook, so it makes it even weirder. It was like 20. I had to fast forward."
[38:08]

Kat and Mila reflect on their admiration for writers' abilities to craft compelling stories, sharing their own creative aspirations and the challenges they face in storytelling.

Mila:
"I've been a fan of him. [...] When I heard about this, I was like, oh, No, I want to believe the best in him, but I also can't just be blinded by the fact that I've been a fan of his."
[46:43]

6. Current Hot Topics and Reflections

[49:43 - 52:50]

The hosts briefly touch upon recent controversies involving public figures like Ryan Reynolds and Justin Baldoni, discussing the impact of public opinion and media narratives on personal reputations. They express concerns over the spread of information and the importance of understanding all facts before forming judgments.

Kat:
"Candace referred to Ryan as terrifying, unhinged, the true villain. [...] He's spiraling and we're not considering like all the different variables."
[44:34]

Mila and Kat emphasize the need for critical thinking and withholding judgment until all information is available, highlighting the complexities of public personas and personal struggles.

Mila:
"I was upset when that first stuff came out of like, oh, maybe I read this all wrong."
[46:42]

7. Upcoming Content and Closing Thoughts

[52:50 - 54:19]

As the episode nears its end, Kat and Mila hint at future projects and content they are developing, expressing excitement about sharing new ideas and engaging with their audience. They encourage listeners to stay tuned for fresh and riveting updates.

Kat:
"We're cooking up something, so we are close to sharing what that is. And we are getting closer and it makes me think of Taylor's year and gosh, I hope for her sake, time flies."
[24:56]

They conclude by inviting listeners to submit their own updates and stories, fostering a sense of community and ongoing dialogue.

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Notable Quotes

• Mila Grant:
  "Life decisions shouldn't be based on short term emotions. They should be guided by long term values. Feelings are better mirrors than maps."
  [07:00]

• Taylor's Email:
  "I won't just survive, but by the grace of God, I may just even thrive."
  [18:57]

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This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a blend of personal anecdotes, insightful discussions on decision-making, heartfelt listener stories, and engaging conversations on self-care and literature. Kat and Mila create an inviting atmosphere, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own lives while fostering a supportive community.

Transcript

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[Mila]

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[Kat]

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[Mila]

And I'm Kat.

[Kat]

And I'm gonna start off with a story about the first stall theory. Because before Kat and I started recording, right when we sat down, I was like, have you ever heard of the first stall theory? And you said you had not. Well, I'm listening to a book on called November 9th. Heard of it?

[Mila]

No.

[Kat]

It's a Colleen Hoover book. It's.

[Mila]

Oh, it's like a story. Okay.

[Kat]

Yeah. And the main character talks about how she always uses the first stall in the bathroom because she read that it's the least used by people, which equals less germs. So obviously I decided to Google if this is fiction like the book, or actually a real study, and it looks like it's legit. I found an Entire article about this called which Doll is the Cleanest? And according to studies, the middle stalls are to be avoided if possible. Apparently, people tend to choose the middle one because it's in the middle and they like to be in the middle preference. They're like, okay, I'm not going to go in the first one. Don't want to go in the last one. It's just preference is that they go in the middle. On the other hand, the first stall which is the least used is likely to be the cleanest because less people have been in there. Most people avoid the first stall. And so today you know what I did? I was at the doctor. Guess which stall I went into.

[Mila]

The first.

[Kat]

That's right. I went twice. I went before my appointment, first stall. And then after my appointment, guess why I had to go in the first one. The other two were occupied. I had no choice. But that means they bypassed the first one, probably for the centrality preference.

[Mila]

Well, is that what it's called, centrality preference? Do you make that up?

[Kat]

That's what that says here. Okay. I tried to avoid saying the word at the beginning and I was like, just because people prefer the middle stall.

[Mila]

But I'm trying to imagine what I do. But I feel like I do go.

[Kat]

In the middle, probably because. Sexuality preference.

[Mila]

But if there's like a. I was trying to use the argument that if I don't want to use the first one because I don't want people to, like, be able to, like, see me or something. But that's only if there's a line and then you just use the stall that's open.

[Kat]

That's true, but I mean, I'm just saying, if you have a choice and every stall, the world is your oyster. Which one are you going to choose? And now you're going to probably choose the first stall because I said this and the main character in the book that I'm listening to said it. And then I googled it. And here we are now we're talking about the first stall theory. And it's a whole thing.

[Mila]

Interesting.

[Kat]

But I mean, don't hold me to it. If you actually, like, do some tests.

[Mila]

But that I think applies to all public places and things. Like, I'm thinking you go into a restaurant, you don't sit at the first table. I'm going to walk past that one and go to the next one.

[Kat]

You know, like, if you haven't a choice.

[Mila]

Yes, I have a choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kat]

Well, I don't want to sit by the door because it's Drafty.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So I don't know that it's like a cleanliness thing, but we want to. Or you want to be in the.

[Mila]

Middle where all the action is. But that's not really what I want to do in the bathroom. True.

[Kat]

You know what they call that, though, wanting to be in the middle?

[Mila]

Centrality Preference. Preference. Cool.

[Kat]

That's our new word of the day. We have to work into conversation. Centrality preference.

[Mila]

We forgot about the word of the day.

[Kat]

I know. It's been a minute. Well, we just brought it back. Yeah, just now.

[Mila]

Centrality preference.

[Kat]

In a very. A very organic way.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Which. That's normally not how we begin the show. We always begin with a quote, but since we were talking about first style theory, I wanted to make sure we touch on it in case anybody is listening to us right now and they are literally walking into a public bathroom. You're welcome.

[Mila]

And would you recommend somebody waiting for the first stall to open up if.

[Kat]

Well, I can't do that, because by the time I make it to the bathroom, I'm already on the verge of peeing my pants.

[Mila]

Do you wait to go? Yes, I do that, too, and I don't know why. I hate getting up and going to the bathroom.

[Kat]

Yeah, I needed to go before. So I left work today to go to the doctor's appointment, and I needed to go before I left work. Yeah, I should have gone before I left work, because then I got to the doctor's appointment. I'm on the elevator, and I have to, like, squat down, like I'm getting something out of my bag, because I am like, I think I'm gonna pee my pants. And if I squat down and pretend like I'm in my bag, at least it'll delay it, you know, it just felt like I could, like, hold it, and then suddenly.

[Mila]

You really squat down?

[Kat]

Yes, because someone was. Someone was getting on the elevator, and I'm like, I can't do a pee dance or hold it in any way. So I put my bag down on the elevator, and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna dig in my bag right now and act like I'm getting something because I have to pee. So I just got lucky that the first stall was available. But also, even if I wanted to go to the middle stall, I don't think I would have made it. Like, I had to just run to that bathroom pee, and then I don't.

[Mila]

Know what that is. I wonder if that's a thing around a lot of women. I find it such an inconvenience to have to go to the bathroom. But it is really bad for you to hold it that long.

[Kat]

Yes. It's terrible for you, maybe.

[Mila]

We work on that.

[Kat]

I know I need to rewire my pee area. I know you can rewire your brain.

[Mila]

But you know, you can strengthen the muscles.

[Kat]

That's. Okay, well, I need to do that.

[Mila]

Your pee area. Okay, well, I have a quote.

[Kat]

Yeah, we got to. We're gonna get to the quote.

[Mila]

Okay. So this comes from Adam Grant. Who. He's a. I'm pretty sure he's a psychologist, but he does a lot of leadership. Have you heard?

[Kat]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Mila]

He's great.

[Kat]

We've quoted him before. Or at least I have for sure. On the fourth.

[Mila]

He's bff. I feel like with Brene Brown. So anybody she hangs out with, I trust. But the quote is major. Life decisions shouldn't be based on short term emotions. They should be guided by long term values. Feelings are better mirrors than maps. They reflect your present states, but they don't come with future directions. Don't let today's mood drive who you become tomorrow. I love that part. Feelings are a better mirror than maps.

[Kat]

Yes. That's what I was gonna say back, but then I couldn't remember all the words. I was like, oh, I like that. Remember it.

[Mila]

Remember it.

[Kat]

And then I couldn't. So feelings are better mirrors than maps is what it is.

[Mila]

So not letting them tell you what you need to do in that moment, but letting you know what's going on in the moment.

[Kat]

I know that this is the right thing to do. And I hear you. But sometimes just making decisions when you're all emotional just feels like the right thing to do.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But then later, that's when you're like, wasn't the best decision.

[Mila]

Yeah. So Adam Grant, look, he has a lot of good stuff on his Instagram page too. So if you don't follow him, you should.

[Kat]

He's really good. And you said that him being BFF with Brene Brown just makes you trust him more. It's funny you say that, because I had a phone call the other day with a woman. Have no idea what she looks like.

[Mila]

I thought you were gonna say with Brene Brown. And I was gonna say, how did you hold this in?

[Kat]

Sorry about that.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

It was with a woman that sounds like Renee Brown. Like, she could be a Brene Brown impersonator on the phone.

[Mila]

Really?

[Kat]

So it's basically like, I talked to Brene.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

I was picturing Brene the entire phone call. And I thought for sure when we got off that this woman was gonna be like, oh, yeah, I've heard this a million times. Because I said, hey, before we hang up, I just have to tell you, has anybody ever told you that you sound exactly like Brene Brown? And she said, oh my gosh, I'm a huge Brene fan. So I take that as such a huge compliment. But no, nobody's ever told me that. And I said, what? Like what? Do they not have ears? Because she works in the therapy space, so I know people she's talking to. Know Brene.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Or have listened to Brene or seen Brene's stuff. Like, it's not like I was talking to someone that has never heard of Brene Brown. So I'm like, how am I hearing this? And nobody else has said this to her.

[Mila]

Did you have Brene on the brain?

[Kat]

No.

[Mila]

No. Okay.

[Kat]

But my point in telling you this is I trusted her more because she sounded like Brene.

[Mila]

You must be related to her in some way.

[Kat]

But everything she was saying, I'm like, yeah, wise. Yeah, you're legit.

[Mila]

Well, Brene has a very calming and strong presence in her voice.

[Kat]

Yeah. Which I think it's strong to do that. Yes. This woman has it.

[Mila]

Wow.

[Kat]

Confidence, but comfort.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Like there was a lot of that. I mean, we're having to talk about some difficult things and I just felt seen and I felt. And I'm like, oh, yeah, sign me up. Whatever it is you got going on, sign me up. Because you're basically Brene Brown. And she said, no one has ever told her that. But I wonder how subconsciously sometimes if someone just a has a relationship with someone that we trust that we automatically give them more credit than we should or they look or sound like something familiar in our life that was safe, so. So we give them more trust than we should.

[Mila]

Yeah, that makes sense. If you have a friend that you trust, then I am gonna be more apt to trust that person. That makes sense. But just cause they look like somebody, we should still have some thought around that and not automatically give them. But I get the relation.

[Kat]

Let me throw this curve ball at you. So I saw a picture of my college boyfriend of what he looks like now, kinda. So we're in our 40s. No, I came across a picture.

[Mila]

It was stumbled across a picture of my ex boyfriend.

[Kat]

He's with someone that is related to someone that I know now. So I think on Instagram I just come across because he doesn't have socials or anything, but I saw a Picture. And I thought, oh, so I know what he looks like. I don't know if y'all can hear my cat meowing, but at the box. I put a big box in my room because I think it's so cute how she gets into boxes, and it's so cute. It's like her own little home, but it's just a cardboard box. It's almost like you. You buy, like, with kids.

[Mila]

Yes.

[Kat]

You spend money on expensive toys, and then you're like, wait, they just want a pot in a pan or a cardboard box. And with cats, it's like, okay, here's a box. So back to this weird realization. So I see a picture of him kind of recently of what he's looking like in his 40s. And then, you know, my boyfriend, we're at his house, and I see a picture of him from 10 years ago, which would be the age of my college boyfriend now. And I was like, is that you? Obviously, Tim. But I'm like, you know what's really weird about that? And I just said this out loud. I was like, you look just like my college boyfriend in this picture. Like, y'all, they look like they could be brothers, really, which is really interesting. So I thought I'd just share that. But not in that I'm dating him because, you know. But I wonder if there was something familiar about him.

[Mila]

Well, I think that's. That's something to say that you're attracted to the same type of people. Like, looking even, like, looks wise. Like, people go for similar things over and over again. So that makes sense. Does he look like him now?

[Kat]

My sister even said that at one point, she was like, he's kind of giving, you know, who vibes. And I was like, I know, right?

[Mila]

So you're saying I have a type.

[Kat]

But I don't really have a type because I've been all over.

[Mila]

That is true. You don't really have a type.

[Kat]

Even in college. I really don't have a type. It's just interesting and weird. There's nothing related to any of this. And it's not some weird thing of, like, that's why I'm dating him at all. It just is one of those moments of, like, I wonder if subconsciously, because I know I'm not really. I adore him for all kinds of reasons. But anyway, I'm just gonna share that tidbit and then.

[Mila]

Also related. And you didn't know?

[Kat]

No, I already thought through that.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

Because it. It's so family that I was like, so you don't have any family in this part of the country, do you? Or this part? Because, I mean, I know a lot of his family history. And I said, it's just so weird how much y'all look alike. And he was real confident. He was like, it wasn't. He was like, why are you bringing up your college boyfriend? Which, thank goodness, because he's very mature. But it wasn't like, a thing. I like the freedom to just be able to say whatever. I bet that there are some men that if a girl were to make a comment like that, they wouldn't be.

[Mila]

Able to handle it a hundred percent.

[Kat]

So shout out. Just blurting things. So I've been saying more of what just comfortable comes to my mind. No, just in general. Everywhere things that come to my mind, I just say it.

[Mila]

Has that gotten you in any trouble?

[Kat]

No.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

Thank goodness. I've been having pretty good thoughts.

[Mila]

Well, that is even your. You are. Do you feel more comfortable with who you are in general around where you're not second guessing yourself? And is it you blurting things out or you just feel more freedom to be yourself?

[Kat]

I don't know. I literally. Today we were recording stuff for the Bobby Bones show, and I said out loud, like, a conversation I was having in my head because I stopped doing something, and then I was like, oh, no, go ahead, do that. And then I go, okay, I will. I said all of that out loud. I said all of it out loud. Everyone in the room was like, what just happened? And I was like, sorry, welcome to my brain. But I don't know if it's me being on my medication and I'm just feeling good.

[Mila]

Usually that happens when people are, like, under the influence or something, where they're, like, responding to themselves versus you're, like, very sober. Okay, I will.

[Kat]

No, I was like, okay, go ahead. Okay, I will. Like, I was picturing what Bobby would say to me, which would be like, okay. Go ahead. And me being like, okay. But I said both things out loud. It was the weirdest thing.

[Mila]

All the voices in your head are integrating.

[Kat]

Yeah. Or I was like, is this the beginning of, like, the.

[Mila]

The downfall? Oh, no.

[Kat]

I start just saying everything because that's what I did. When I saw the photo at his house, I was like, gosh, is that you? Because you look just like my college boyfriend. That's weird. They could be related.

[Mila]

You weren't talking to yourself.

[Kat]

No, no, no. But I mean, I probably would have, like, just held off on that. So. Anyway, didn't mean to talk about that at all. I do love that quote. So thank you, K. You're welcome. For bringing that to us. Who said it?

[Mila]

Adam.

[Kat]

Adam Grant.

[Mila]

It's how we got to Bernee Brown. It's how we got to your college boyfriend.

[Kat]

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[Mila]

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[Kat]

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[Mila]

Like, oh, permission.

[Kat]

I emailed something two, three, four, five years ago. I'm going to send an update. So I'm going to read this now. It is from Taylor in Virginia beach and she attached a picture and she said she did a little PS at the bottom. I'm attaching a photo because I feel like if I was getting a listener email, I'd love to see them. And I was like, yeah, you're right. So it was a cute little family photo. Hey Amy, I emailed you about four years ago after my mother passed away from breast cancer. I'm not sure if you'll remember, but in 2020, my husband went on a very long deployment, my mother died of breast cancer, and my son started regressing and showing all the signs of autism. He was three and not talking. I couldn't have a lot of communication with my husband, and my mother, who I talk to all the time, was no longer here to talk with me. To say that God used your podcast to help me through that time is an understatement. The Bobby Bones show too, of course. My nights with my son were brutal because part of his regression included sleep. So we were up all night long and it felt incredibly lonely. But when 5am rolled around, I knew that I could turn on the radio and hear y'all. I looked forward to it, and on the days that a new podcast would launch, I was so excited. It helped fill the silence in my home and brought me joy and positivity. I'm convinced that one of the greatest strengths we can possess in life is being resilient. For me, being resilient means finding a path forward and taking hold of moments of joy. Because if you look, you'll always be able to find it. It may be a song, a podcast, an outfit, a moment with a loved one or a friend or a morning corny, but determining to see the joy and enjoy it is so huge. To being resilient. The Lord has been so kind to give me strength and wisdom to grow and become resilient and giving me true moments of joy along the way. My husband is about to leave for another deployment and my son, who was three is now seven and he has level three autism and is nonverbal. I also have another son who is three and he does not have autism. And I will be navigating the majority of this year as a solo parent. It will not be easy, but I feel way more prepared to step into that than I did back in 2020. I have ways to cope with hard days and I just have the wisdom to know that all seasons change and I will make it. I won't just survive, but by the grace of God, I may just even thrive. That part gets me emotional. That line is so good. I won't just survive, but by the grace of God, I may just even thrive. And that is. Those are true words spoken from someone that has been through it, which a lot of people have. But she's speaking of the growth that she's had the last four to five years. That's a good line. And part of my plan to keep my sanity is to stay active, keep laughing, and to do the things that fill my cup so that I can pour out into my two precious boys. And your podcast is going to be a big part of that. I just want you to know that I'm so grateful for the work that you do and I'm looking forward to spending another year listening. Thank you in advance for helping me get through this year as well. Your friend Taylor in Virginia beach and her photo. So cute. Kat, I'm gonna show you the picture of them. That's her and her husband and her two boys. Aww, aren't they so cute? So Taylor, thank you for that and I know that we will be and other listeners hearing your story, there'll be praying for you this year for that strength and you are resilient and you will get through this year. And I know what it's like to have a husband gone. While I never had to deal with a year long deployment, thank God I had a lot of friends that did and I honestly would look at them and think, how do y'all do this? Like I would deal with 60, 90 day deployments with the Air Force, but some of my army wife friends, they were dealing with year, year and a half and yeah, I was in awe of them. And Taylor, we're in awe of you and I know that your words. I chose to read your email and I asked her permission of course, because there's some sensitive information here, but she said, yeah, read it all. I know that your words are going to encourage somebody else who's going through a tough season to know that they can make it out on the other side and that they actually won't be scared of the tough seasons because they know of how it's going to mold them and shape them into who they are meant to be, and that down the line, they may not be scared of them because they'll know they'll potentially even thrive in those difficult seasons and moments. So just wanted to read that because it was so encouraging, and I know she's gonna be listening to us this year, and Kat and I are getting closer and closer to being able to tell y'all what we're cooking, as the kids say.

[Mila]

Is that a thing?

[Kat]

Well, they say, let me cook. Like, when you're working.

[Mila]

She ate.

[Kat]

You can eat, too.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

She ate. She cooked.

[Mila]

Oh, let me cook. Okay.

[Kat]

Which I don't know if they're still saying that, by the way, but I know there was a season where my kids would be saying, let me cook, Mom.

[Mila]

Well, we're cooking. Yeah. Okay. Got it.

[Kat]

We're quite not literally cooking up something, but we are cooking up something. So we are close to sharing what that is. And I sort of have been doing, like, a little sample trial case study of sorts.

[Mila]

Oh, okay.

[Kat]

Like, I have sent it to certain listeners, like, what we're up to to see what they think, because I would like feedback.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

And I'm not. I haven't. It's just random how I've come across. It's more of if I'm engaging with someone about something, and I'm like, oh, this might be good to ask.

[Mila]

You want to be part of my case study?

[Kat]

It's not really a case study, but it's just collecting information, getting feedback to see are we on the right path, Is this gonna be something? How do you feel about it? Be honest. You know, hopefully they're being honest. But so far. So far. So far, good feedback.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

Good feedback.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

There's excitement, there's buzz. Think it could be good? I know. I personally am so excited. And we're less than a month away, for sure.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

Less than a month. Okay. Yeah. I've given myself a deadline because otherwise it'll never happen. Well, that's not true. You know that it's happening because you've seen the progress.

[Mila]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kat]

Even here at my house, like, we're putting stuff together.

[Mila]

These kinds of things always Take longer than they feel like they should in our head, though.

[Kat]

Yeah. And I'm trying to be realistic about it. But also I was waiting to finalize some stuff with my job and what I do, and it wasn't all up to you, the bigger umbrella of what it is. So, yeah, it's not just been totally up to me, but we are getting closer and it makes me think of Taylor's year and gosh, I hope for her sake, time flies. But also I want time to slow down because I feel like life really is going by so quickly. It's like that Kenny Chesney song, like Don't Blink. And just like that, you know, don't. Don't blink.

[Mila]

That's all I know.

[Kat]

I know I was gonna try to sing more too, and I can't think of anything accurate. I have some lyrics in my head, but I know they're not right. And just like that, your 6 year.

[Mila]

Old is swinging a bat is, I.

[Kat]

Was gonna say, gonna take a lap, like in a car, meaning now they're 16, but it's definitely not it.

[Mila]

Anyway, time flies.

[Kat]

Time flies. So, Taylor, for you, we hope it really, really flies. We're going to be here with you, though, hopefully with some fresh new content, ish in a new vibe, packaged, rebranded, and as y'all can tell right now, it's gonna be riveting. We have all the words to describe it. We have everything laid out. There's a whole description, a lot of adjectives.

[Mila]

We're really good at, like clickbait and, you know, all of that.

[Kat]

Yeah, we did. We need to actually, like, sit down and do some stuff. But we've been worrying about some other things that take priority. Like which? Rug.

[Mila]

Curtains.

[Kat]

And curtains and sound panels and different things. So I'm very, very excited about what is to come. And Taylor, I hope what we do have cooking keeps you company. And I know again, like I said, your words are going to be so encouraging to other listeners. And if y'all have Updates, send them four things with amybrown gmail.com for now. Okay, so we read the listener email and now I have audio from Kate Winslet. It's not audio she recorded for us, but it's something that she did for.

[Mila]

Bizarre because everybody was like, oh, she must have said that to you.

[Kat]

She did it for Harper's Bazaar.

[Mila]

Really nice.

[Kat]

And I really like what she's saying, and maybe it's because I'm in my no Botox era, but here's what she had to say.

[Mila]

There are several things I've learned, and that is that, number one, women get more beautiful as they get older, for.

[Kat]

Sure, because our faces become more a part of who we are. They sit better on our bone structure. They have more life, they have more history. Things that I find incredibly beautiful are wrinkles around the eyes, the backs of of hands.

[Mila]

I think those things are very beautiful.

[Kat]

Okay, so right now, the wrinkles around the eyes I can get behind. I still don't want my hands to age, which I have embraced. And I've told the story before. Like, I look down and I see my mom's hands and my mom's not here anymore. So I'm like, oh, it's my mom. But then I'm also like, oh, it's my mom. But, oh, I'm gonna still put my skin care on the back of my hands. Do you do that?

[Mila]

What?

[Kat]

Yes. Everything you put on your face, you need to put on your neck, your chest and the backs of your hands.

[Mila]

I never thought to do that.

[Kat]

When you're done applying it to your face and neck at least, and hopefully your chest.

[Mila]

I'm not doing my chest.

[Kat]

Okay. I take it from a 44 year old start. Now, I don't think I started my chest until the last few years and I wish I would have started in my 20s, but here we are and I take whatever product. Fine. If you're just doing your face, Cat, you do it on there and then. Boop. Just instead of wiping it on a towel or anywhere else, just put on the back of your hands.

[Mila]

I've never thought to put skincare on my hands. I don't even really wear lotion on my hands.

[Kat]

We're still young, you know, Driving gloves are kind of a thing to protect your hands.

[Mila]

Okay, I'm not ready for the gloves. I. I do wonder because, you know, you hear that like the, when you get your nails done, that's bad for your hands. The, like UV the lamp. So should I wear gloves when I do my nails?

[Kat]

I have no idea. Okay, how are you going to wear gloves when you do your nails?

[Mila]

They have the fingerless gloves.

[Kat]

Wait, so you're just going to cover like the top part of your hand.

[Mila]

And then you put it in the lamp. So then it's like, it's kind of like a tanning bed, you know?

[Kat]

Well, you know that you can get skin cancer in your fingernail bed.

[Mila]

Okay, I don't want to talk about this anymore.

[Kat]

Okay. When you go to the dermatologist, you're supposed to go with no fingernail polish or toenail polish. That way they can if you're doing a full body checkup, like your yearly.

[Mila]

I haven't been to the dermatologist since high school or college.

[Kat]

What?

[Mila]

You keep reminding me to go, and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go. But I actually am gonna do a lot of doctor's appointments that I'm not used to doing. I do like my yearly, like, physical and stuff like that now that I have better insurance because I finally have like an actual insurance plan versus, like one I have to buy for myself because I'm self employed. Okay, So I get better benefits. Gotcha.

[Kat]

I mean, that makes sense. And I know that going to the dermatologist is a privilege. It's not something that's people are used to going to or that is often covered.

[Mila]

I mean, I could have gone. I just never thought of it. Okay, I'm making excuses, but thank you for making excuses.

[Kat]

But also, there's some people that are like, well, I wish I could go. And that's a whole nother thing in America we got to figure out. So that's.

[Mila]

Put the lotion on your hands.

[Kat]

Put the lotion on your hands and ask me how my face fitness is going.

[Mila]

How's it going?

[Tisha Allen]

I'm Tisha Allen, former golf professional and the host of welcome to the Party. Your newest obsession about the wonderful world that is women's golf. Featuring interviews with top players on tour, like LPGA superstar Angel Yin.

[Mila]

I really just sat myself down at the end of 2022, and I was like, look, either we make it or we quit.

[Tisha Allen]

Expert tips to help improve your swing, and the craziest stories to come out of your friendly neighborhood country club.

[Kat]

The drinks were flowing. Twerking all over the place. Vaping. They're shotgunning.

[Tisha Allen]

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[Mila]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Snakes.

[Kat]

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[Mila]

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[Kat]

When you're behind the wheel, distracted driving.

[Mila]

Is what's really scary and even deadly.

[Kat]

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[Mila]

Don't drive distracted. Brought to you by NHTSA and the AD Council.

[Kat]

Hey, y'all this is Reed from the God's country podcast. We had the one and only Bobby Bones in the studio this week, and we cover everything from his upbringing to his outdoor experiences with his stepdad, AR Keith, to the state of country music. We may even end the episode with a little jam session led by Bobby himself. Y'all be sure and listen to this episode of God's country with Bobby bones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Don't go shopping at Target with khaki pants and a red shirt on. Don't go shopping at Target with khaki pants and a red polo shirt on. Switch up song. An old lady came up to me. She said, how much for this Cream of Wheat? Ask me how how my face fitness is going.

[Mila]

How's it going?

[Kat]

It's going really good. Or well.

[Mila]

Can you see? Could you notice?

[Kat]

I don't know. I noticed right away. And I like the 10 minutes that I'm doing. It's very therapeutic. It's relaxing. I've learned that relaxing the muscles in the neck is very for your face, like you wouldn't think. But if these muscles are tight, that's what pulls down, and that starts to pull your face down. So if you release and relax the muscles in the neck and the shoulders. Well, yeah, but you've gotta massage it out. I can't remember the name of this muscle, but you have one on the right side and the left side pair of muscle.

[Mila]

Got it.

[Kat]

Centrality preference muscle. You massage that and it's actually quite painful. You have, like, they say it'll get easier, but mine is sort of really tight and embedded into my neck. But if I squeeze it, it gets loose and it feels better. But that hopefully is releasing some of the muscles and relaxing some of the muscles in my face as well. I don't know that I see anything, but I feel better. I feel relaxed, like I look forward to doing in the morning and sometimes even do a nighttime routine. And I found all of these women on YouTube. There's all these free videos. Like, I was gonna subscribe to some of this stuff, and I'm like, look at all this content out here. It's so great. A lot of them are in Japanese.

[Mila]

So you just follow what they're doing versus yeah.

[Kat]

But I'm thinking if I do this a lot, by the end of it, I might know certain words in Japanese, like neck, face, nose.

[Mila]

Do you know any of them now?

[Kat]

Not yet.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

But I'm saying if I'm consistent, because I'M reading the subtitles, and then I'm listening to what they're saying. And if I hear it enough, you.

[Mila]

Might just accidentally pick up a language.

[Tisha Allen]

Yes.

[Mila]

A very difficult language.

[Kat]

This could be my superpower one day if we need it.

[Mila]

Japanese.

[Kat]

You never know. Like, in a time of crisis, it'd be like, who speaks Japanese?

[Mila]

You're on a plane. You're on a plane. There's emergency. And they're like, help. Does anybody speak Japanese?

[Kat]

And you're like, I do. I know. Forehead massage. Sk.

[Mila]

What if you jump up and you literally are like, I know.

[Kat]

Forehead. I know. Relax. I know. Lips, jowl. Jawline. Ears. There are so many pressure points in the ears that help.

[Mila]

I see this being really helpful for you.

[Kat]

I know lymph nodes.

[Mila]

You know, or you will know. You don't know it yet. You're acting like you already know.

[Kat]

Future me will know. Like, if there's ever a situation where I need to relax, their neighborhood Japanese. I might know it because I'm doing so many of these videos, and I gotta say, they are so. I'm not kidding. I'm gonna send you one, and you're gonna do it. Do it at night before bed. Oh, did you do it? Did you do the jet?

[Mila]

No.

[Kat]

Did you have the five minute one or the ten minute one?

[Mila]

Well, I didn't do it.

[Kat]

You didn't even open it. I don't even know.

[Mila]

You say it was a weekend. And I said, well, you. I asked. I think I asked you to send it to me. And then I think I had to get ready to go, so I don't have time. And I was like, oh, I'll do it later. And I never did it. So I don't know if it's five or ten, but knowing me, if I want to start it, I need the five minute. I, like, do skin care, but I just, like, rub it on my face and go on. I have the time in the. Definitely in the morning. I have the time to do that.

[Kat]

You should do it.

[Mila]

You have to do it. I've been. I've been listening to an audiobook, though, so I don't want.

[Kat]

What are you listening to? Because I'm listening to November 9th, so what are you listening to, too?

[Mila]

Okay, so I never thought this would be me. You would actually like this because you were a Hunger Games girl, weren't you?

[Kat]

I was.

[Mila]

I'm listening to 4th Wing. Have you heard about it?

[Kat]

No, but I am very interested. Is this something that's popular right now? How do I not know about it.

[Mila]

I didn't know about it until two weeks ago. And a couple people I work with recommended the book. I didn't think anything of it, didn't really read what it was about. Downloaded it, started listening to it, and then I was like, wait, this is a book about dragons. I do not want to listen to this anymore. So I texted my friends and was like, why did you not tell me this is about dragons? This is not my cup of tea. However, they encouraged me to just stay with it. It is very similar type vibe of Hunger Games. There's just dragons involved. And it's not weird. I mean, it is weird, but it's like fun.

[Kat]

Well, Hunger Games is a little weird. I mean, kids are like fighting for their lives. Well, similar, kind of odd.

[Mila]

This is a little similar.

[Kat]

And I mean, my November 9th book I'm really liking. But they're. They've gotten a little older as the book progresses. But in the beginning, they're 18. You're not like relating and they're having like a love scene. I don't like hearing, oh my. That also they're 18. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I have a daughter that's 17. I'm not listening to this.

[Mila]

Well, this book had. I was very shocked by it. They had a love scene in there too, and was audiobook, so it makes it even weirder. It was like 20. I had to fast forward.

[Kat]

Humans are dragons.

[Mila]

Who's humans? There could be a future dragon. Wait, the dragons did procreate. They didn't procreate in the book, but there was mention of them. I can't explain it because it just sounds weird when I say it because I'm talking about dragons. But they have some alone time and you get connected to a dragon so you feel the feelings of your dragon. So then they started feeling the feelings of their dragons. I'm not giving this book a good explanation. It is really good and I'm hooked. And there's I think three books and the third one just came out and it sold out immediately. So people are loving it.

[Kat]

Okay. Fourth Wing is a adult high romance fantasy or romantasy about dragons. Seeing adult high romance fantasy.

[Mila]

Okay. This book audiobook is like 27 hours long. I probably got through 17 hours before there was any romance scene. So it's not a big part of the book. It's just there is a heavy storyline of a romance. But that makes me like the book, you know?

[Kat]

Okay, I'm trying to see if mine's a romantasy Mine's a novel.

[Mila]

Well, you know what? That's different than what smut is. Do you know what smut is?

[Kat]

Mm. Mm.

[Mila]

That's like a romance book that is heavy on the romance writing.

[Kat]

I say romance, but what does smut stand for? That's gotta mean something. Smut meaning smut book, meaning a smut book is a book that contains explicit and graphic content. Apparently, whatever the dragon was doing. The term smut can also be used to describe other media that contains. Oh, yeah, okay. I've heard of smut used in that way, but I guess I just wasn't thinking about it. Smut book.

[Mila]

But this is not a smut book. This just has a love scene in it.

[Kat]

Yeah. Proclaim that from the top. I am. This is not a smut book. It's a sexual fantasy book about dragons. I just want to clarify. Okay. I just want to clarify that it took at least 13 hours before the first hour.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

It's good.

[Mila]

I think you would like it. And I bet people listening, a lot of them have read it and they probably want you to listen to it and give it a chance too. If you like Hunger Games, I just feel like you would enjoy it.

[Kat]

If you like centrality preference around dragons, you will like this book. Okay. Kat, you're funny. Well, I recommend November 9th, except for it's a little weird that they're 18. It's a Colleen Hoover book, which.

[Mila]

Oh, we haven't talked about this.

[Kat]

Well, I don't really know what to say. Did you see Candace Owens whole thing? Yes, I watched every second.

[Mila]

Oh, I didn't. I just. I just saw her talking about it and was like, she's talking about this. This must like.

[Kat]

Well, and she read the entire legal report. She's. Yes, because that's what she does. Like, she ha. She can understand all of that. And she said, let me tell you. I mean, and she gave very strong opinions. She was very clear to. Or wise, I guess, to make known that this is her own opinion.

[Mila]

Opinion, facts.

[Kat]

Correct. I mean, but in a way, she's saying what I'm saying is facts. Because I just read it.

[Mila]

She's like, this is my opinion legal doc based in facts.

[Kat]

I mean, I believe what she was saying. So I was very impressed with her breakdown.

[Mila]

And what was her, like, overarching that.

[Kat]

Ryan Reynolds is behind all of this and he's having a mental breakdown.

[Mila]

Oh.

[Kat]

That Blake developed feelings for.

[Mila]

How do people know that, though?

[Kat]

Because she read through all the trends. She read through everything, and she's like, it's obvious to me that there was feelings, text messages, different other. Leah. Yes. Oh, I don't know how many pages this legal.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

Or what. All it is like 90 pages or something and a lot of jargon that maybe us common folk don't understand. But she broke it down. And I will say that I believe her. What she was saying seems to be accurate. But I'm not gonna put all my eggs in one basket because I've believed a lot of different people throughout this process. And, you know, she even called that out, too, of like, if you're going to have strong opinions about something and you haven't read the entire thing, then.

[Mila]

Don'T say it on the Internet.

[Kat]

Sort of like, yeah, shame on some of you that have spoken out about this in such a confident way and you don't know all of the details. And while she doesn't know them personally and what's going on, she just is able to form a very educated opinion based on what she has read. And in a nutshell, to answer your question of what she was saying is that Blake and what's his face.

[Mila]

Justin Baldoni.

[Kat]

Justin. There was feelings there, and Ryan got wind of it, somehow learned of it and has taken control of this, thinking that he had the power to make Justin just. Just disappear out of Hollywood. And that's not happening. And now she's like, why she is saying he's having a mental break is that if he knows what's in these papers. So it's like if you're a rational, thinking person and you know you have taken this too far, then you likely just stop and you own whatever and you're like, you know what? This is what happened. Here's where we are now. But because there's. She said if they go to court, there is no way that they will win. There is just absolutely no way. And that it's. It's. She called it. There's an abuse word, but, like, legal abuse. And now, gosh, I want to get the word accurate, but I didn't even know we were going to be talking about this, so I didn't even bring it up. But what he is doing, if. If this is. If her theory is correct, what he is putting Blake through with this, he's.

[Mila]

Putting everybody through, too.

[Kat]

Huh. It's. It's really, really sad. And I thought it was kind of funny that she tagged him in the video. Oh, Ryan Reynolds.

[Mila]

Which is not going to help if he is having a mental breakdown. That's not going to help.

[Kat]

Yeah, I don't think she care. I mean, whatever. He's probably tagged in, like, tons of everything.

[Mila]

Yeah, he's probably not looking at it. Hopefully he's not looking at all that stuff. It's just that whole situation. I think you saying sad. It is sad. It's sad from the beginning of this, that movie. You read that book, right?

[Kat]

Yes, I read the book, loved it, saw the movie, loved it.

[Mila]

I thought the movie was fine.

[Kat]

Yeah. I mean, I didn't love it as much as the book, but I mean, who. That's usually the case for all this craziness, so, I mean, I thought they did a good job.

[Mila]

Well, the craziness started with a premiere of the movie, but I. Yeah, I tried to, like, just put that in my mind because that book was so good and it had the potential to be such an important, I think, peace for so many people. Because even reading it, I mean, I was like a ball of tears reading that. And it's based off of. I want to say that's based off of Colleen Hoover's mom's life or something similar, like, loosely based on. But it's just as sad that, like, something that could have been so hopeful and helpful and meaningful to so many people, now everybody's going to remember it as this. And if it really is based in what I guess Candace Odens is saying, like, that's even sadder that it's all trying to, like, cover up justice.

[Kat]

What about the next book? It begins.

[Mila]

That's never. They're never gonna make that movie. You really think? I don't know, because Justin owns the rights to it. Justin's character isn't. Wouldn't be really in the second. I didn't read the second book.

[Kat]

Remember how we were thinking, like, he was such a dirtbag for a little bit?

[Mila]

Well, I had a hard time with that, though, remember, Because I love him. Like, I've been a fan of him.

[Kat]

What did you think of his 27 minute proposal video or whatever he did for his wife?

[Mila]

That was weird, but some people like that kind of stuff. I thought that was weird, but I. I loved his book, man. Enough. I listened to his podcast. He was on, you Need Therapy. And he was. I don't know why he agreed to be. I mean, I shouldn't say that because that's kind of putting myself down, but he's way bigger than my podcast was. And he came on my podcast to talk about that book, was so gracious, was so kind. You could tell he cared about that content. So when I heard about this, I was like, oh, No, I, like, want to believe the best in him, but I also can't just be blinded by the fact that I've been a fan of his. So I was upset when that first stuff came out of like, oh, maybe I read this all wrong. I don't know. I feel like I shouldn't even be saying anything on it because I really don't even know what the facts are. And I haven't read those documents, probably shouldn't understand them.

[Kat]

Candace referred to Ryan as terrifying, unhinged, the true villain. I don't know, just the way she put it, I was like, okay. Someone even commented. I pulled. I went to the Instagram post and said, well, first of all, her caption for her video was, ryan Reynolds is terrifying. Here is how it will end. And she gave her theory on how it's going to unfold. And then someone commented, I literally could care less about anyone in Hollywood. That Candace starts talking about somebody and I'm all like, what?

[Mila]

She does have a lot of conviction in the way she talks. I guess I'm. Surely this is going to be. Well, my thought is Justin isn't going to want to settle this. This is. I know nothing about law, so take this with a grain of salt. I guess my normal person thought would be, if I was Justin, I wouldn't want to settle this out of court because I would want to clear my name. But if I was Blake or Ryan, I would be like, let's clean this up now, because I don't want people to.

[Kat]

Well, apparently Justin's team, they're ready to put up an entire website with all the facts, like, so that people can just go to the website and read it all.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

And like here. Yeah, facts, no printer. That's another thing the kids say, apparently.

[Mila]

I thought you just thought of that. And I'm like, that's kind of like, you know, witty.

[Kat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No printer.

[Mila]

Wow.

[Kat]

So, yeah, how did we start talking about that?

[Mila]

How did we get on that, Justin, about. Oh, books.

[Kat]

Our books.

[Mila]

Colleen Hoover.

[Kat]

Colleen Hoover, yes. Because I'm reading or listening to November 9th and I just. I really love the concept of this book so much.

[Mila]

What is the concept? 18 year olds.

[Kat]

I just don't like that they're 18.

[Mila]

But what is it about?

[Kat]

They were like, 30. Well, I'm too nervous to tell because what if I give away?

[Mila]

You're not gonna give away. You might get shamed if there's dragons involved.

[Kat]

In a nutshell, there's a couple.

[Mila]

Hold on. I don't understand why you can't, because.

[Kat]

On the Bobby Bone show, I am known to ruin things.

[Mila]

Okay, well, what, what does the back of the book say?

[Kat]

Well, okay, let me just pull it up. Well, it's audio. I'm audiobook.

[Mila]

Which I don't understand why you could just be like. It's a love story about a couple that met in high school.

[Kat]

It's a love story, okay? They met. They were strangers, but how they met is super cute.

[Mila]

Okay.

[Kat]

In a restaurant. And she is insecure. You'll learn in the book why if you listen to it. But she was a beautiful girl that was an actress. Then an accident happened and she's suddenly really insecure. Well, he's someone that like, sees her for her and.

[Mila]

Do you need to stop?

[Kat]

Gosh, I don't know. Why? Am I giving too much away? Well, so then he's a writer, but he's 18. And so I'm like, he's 18, but.

[Mila]

He'S a published writer?

[Kat]

No, he's not published yet. But he ends up get anyway. I don't know. I don't want to say too much. Okay, let me see. Where does it say what I can say?

[Mila]

You saying whatever comes into your head back then.

[Kat]

I'm going to go to Amazon.

[Mila]

I think that gives enough about the summary of the book. It's a love story.

[Kat]

Okay? Fallon meets Ben, an aspiring novelist, the day before her scheduled cross country move. Their untimely attraction leads to them spending Fallon's last day in LA together. And her eventful life becomes the creative inspiration Ben has always sought for his novel. And then they come up, they have this really good novel idea. So that was November 9th. And then they only meet up with each other every November 9th. So like you, a year passes by, but you don't have to listen to a bunch of stuff in the air. It'll be like next November 9th. And then you. You're drawn into what happens that day and they're supposed to meet up. They don't have each other's phone numbers, emails, nothing. They just have to meet at the same place. November 9th and every November 9th you're like, are they gonna meet? Is one of them gonna show?

[Mila]

Wait, that's the or not show. It's just one day each year. That's crazy. Authors just are so crazy to me. The way that they can formulate a story around that. I have another book rec that doesn't have dragons in it called Daisy Darker and it's a murder mystery. It's all I'm gonna say. The ending Blew my mind. Blew my mind. I. I don't understand how a writer can do. Like it's a talent and a skill I. I'm afraid I'll never have.

[Kat]

But don't you want to write a book?

[Mila]

I can't write a story like this. That.

[Kat]

I mean, not a novel.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Like you would write a real.

[Mila]

I'm not creative enough and I.

[Kat]

It's just non fiction, self help type book.

[Mila]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't like the term self help. I guess informative.

[Kat]

Do you know I saw Glennon Doyle. This is like just a clip on Instagram that she must have been on somebody's podcast and she said this, but it just stuck with me about how oftentimes men will write books and it's always put in the leadership section and then women write books and it's automatically put in the self help section because men are leaders and women need help. You know.

[Mila]

Wait, that tracks.

[Kat]

We're like this problem that needs to be fixed and men just need to be like propped up. Yeah. Right.

[Mila]

Well, I'm definitely not going to write a leadership book, but now that. Now I kind of want to.

[Kat]

Now you need to write something and just be like, I'm writing this and it's not going to be put in self help things.

[Mila]

And it goes in the leadership section. Thank you.

[Kat]

Like, nobody needs to be fixed here.

[Mila]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Is that the title?

[Mila]

Nobody. That's a. Write that down.

[Kat]

Write that down. Well, I'm not me, I'm not gonna write it. You know, nobody needs to be fixed here. Except for maybe Ryan Reynolds. Apparently he's spiraling. Got some stuff going on.

[Mila]

Yeah. Yikes. Well, I'm intrigued to see what happens with all that.

[Kat]

I know, but I mean, I'm thinking like, there's kids. Like you're spiraling and we're not considering like all the different variables like how that are impacted by this. And then Justin has a wife and kids. And kids. Yeah. Like just. This is just like. How did we get you out of control?

[Mila]

Wild times.

[Kat]

All right, well, okay, Kat, where can.

[Mila]

People find you on Instagram?

[Kat]

At Van Buren and I'm radioamy and we hope that you are having the day you need to have. Bye.

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