FRI PT 2: Amy Met Her Ex-Husband’s New Girlfriend + Update On Bobby Seeing Celebrity At Dinner + Gambling Scandals And Heist Updates

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – Fri Pt 2: Amy Meets Her Ex’s New Girlfriend, Celebrity Sighting Update, Gambling Scandals, and Heist Updates

Airdate: October 24, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones (with Amy, Eddie, Lunchbox, and Morgan)
Episode Summary:
This episode features Amy’s story of meeting her ex-husband’s new girlfriend, Bobby’s humorous follow-up on a possible celebrity sighting, deep dives into current celebrity gambling scandals (and their massive scope), and wild updates on an audacious jewel heist at the Louvre. Lively banter, relatable insights, and a few technical hiccups keep the conversation flowing.

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Main Theme & Purpose

• Personal moment: Amy shares what it was like meeting her ex-husband’s new partner.
• Pop culture and current events: Updates on high-profile gambling scandals in sports and celebrity circles, with legal context and speculation on how the stories unfolded.
• Heist intrigue: Breakdown of the latest major jewel robbery at the Louvre, with a discussion about amateur vs. professional techniques.
• Relationship and life advice: Using “mulligans” (do-overs) in relationships, plus stories of surprise, awkward encounters, and the quirks of modern-age crime.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Amy Meets Her Ex-Husband's New Girlfriend

– [03:05-09:19]

• Amy reveals she met her ex-husband’s new girlfriend at a kid’s event:
  • “She’s pretty. She’s really pretty.” – Amy [03:09]
  • The group asks if she’s prettier than Amy; Amy dodges:
    • “I don’t ask myself that.” – Amy [03:21]
  • The meeting was cordial, including a hug and group socializing (“everyone was hanging out for a second. We were all just standing in a circle, talking. Ha ha ha.” – Amy [04:43])
• Amy shares her vision of blended-family peace:
  • “Back when we were first getting divorced … one day, we’ll see what happens. We can all get along and vacation together.” – Amy [06:29]
• The group teases about the awkwardness of exes vacationing with new partners (Spider-man meme reference).
• Amy discusses the new girlfriend’s career:
  • “She owns her own thing. … has her own practice.” – Amy [08:29, 08:58]
  • The guys gently reinforce Amy’s own successes.
• No lingering drama, just curiosity, and adult conversation about blended families.

2. Bobby’s “Celebrity Sighting” Update

– [09:19-10:59]

• Bobby thought he saw country artist Warren Zeiders at a sushi restaurant, but it turned out to be a mistaken identity (“Turns out it was not him. Said he was at the airport, about to hit the road.” – Bobby [09:44])
• Casual riffing about men with ponytails and putting hair through hat holes.

3. Relationship “Mulligans” and Communication

– [11:09-14:55]

• Amy suggests couples can benefit from “mulligans” (do-overs) in arguments, just like in golf.
  • “Would you like it if you had sports terms for your relationship talk?” – Amy [12:00]
  • “When a mulligan is called, the other partner doesn’t get to hold you to what was said in the first round. It’s all let go and then have a quality conversation after.” – Amy [12:20]
• The guys joke about using less honest strategies (“I always say, ‘I didn’t say that.’ And she can’t prove that.” – Eddie [12:42])
• Discussion veers comically dark (“You walk in on her and she’s on top of some other dude—stop—and she’s like, ‘mulligan.’” – Bobby [13:17])
• Underlying lesson: sometimes consciously resetting a bad argument can help.

4. Gambling Scandals & Legal Troubles in Sports and Celebrity Circles

– [15:16-29:03]

• Lunchbox recaps the scope of illegal gambling busts linked to celebrities like Kylie Jenner and Travis Scott’s NYC apartment, and the use of high-tech cheating in secret poker games.
  • “Her and Travis Scott lived in [a] love nest … one of the Manhattan places they were using for the illegal gambling.” – Lunchbox [15:16]
• Bobby nerds out over cheating technology:
  • “They would show you what it looked like with glasses … it shows on the back of the cards … you take the glasses off and it’s just a normal deck.” – Bobby [16:13]
• Discussion of informant deals, plea bargaining, and immunity:
  • “Immunity means nothing can happen.” – Bobby [19:06]
• Famed NBA and poker personalities involved, discussion of how authorities might have busted the ring (disgruntled losers or inside deals).
• Amy brings in a true crime parallel: offering up information for legal concessions.

5. The Louvre Heist: How Did the Robbers Get Away?

– [29:05-32:35]

• Morgan details new footage showing how jewel thieves used a crane and construction disguises to rob the Louvre in under seven minutes.
• Group marvels at their casual “bucket truck” approach and flawless execution.
  • “I wonder if they built … a replica of getting up into a building, going down, shattering, taking, getting out.” – Bobby [29:54]
  • “These guys are a bunch of amateurs.” (according to an interviewed pro) – Morgan [30:08]
• Real possibility the robbers left behind key evidence (helmet, glove with DNA).
• Playful speculation about planting someone else’s DNA (“The ultimate move would be to leave behind a glove or a helmet accidentally with someone else’s DNA in it who had no involvement at all … That’s next level, man.” – Bobby [32:10])

6. Quirky, True Crime & Culture Stories

– [36:17-41:43]

• Lori Loughlin’s divorce and finances: discussion of prenup, streaming-era syndication, and her actual versus perceived wealth, plus John Stamos’s public support for her.
• Wild case: a 24-year-old shoots his mother’s lover after catching them together.
  • “The mom said, ‘Don’t shoot, don’t shoot, don’t shoot.’ He fired two shots into the guy’s chest. Killed him.” – Bobby [40:10]
• Study about banning cellphones at schools for better test scores; group acknowledges they would’ve been distracted too.

7. Technical Difficulties and Lighthearted Banter

– Throughout

• Mid-show echo problem leads to a humorous series of “la la la” sound checks and finger-pointing until resigned acceptance. (“It is not me. La la la la la la la.” – Bobby [33:36])
• End of episode is cut short by Bobby needing to find his missing dog Eller (“I gotta go take care of that. … We live by a busy highway and it’s a busy time of the day.” – Bobby [41:34])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On meeting the ex’s new girlfriend:
  “I met her and we hugged … I was like, hi, nice to meet you. Heard a lot about you.” – Amy [03:53]
• On coexisting with exes and their new partners:
  “I was. Had this weird vision of, like, one day ... we can all get along and vacation together.” – Amy [06:29]
• On cheating technology in poker:
  “It shows on the back of the cards … you take the glasses off and it’s just a normal deck of cards.” – Bobby [16:13]
• On the magnitude of organized crime:
  “Because there is no such thing as the mafia … it's just a generalized term for organized crime … But yes, it was organized crime families.” – Bobby [27:32]
• On amateur criminals:
  “These guys are a bunch of amateurs.” (Pro heister, cited by Morgan) [30:21]
• On syndication and streaming:
  "There's almost no syndication money now because people aren't buying as many things that are syndicated." – Bobby [37:31]
• On the importance of evidence in a heist:
  “The ultimate move would be ... to leave behind a glove … with someone else’s DNA in it who had no involvement at all.” – Bobby [32:10]
• On ‘mulligans’ in marriage:
  “I do admit I’m wrong a lot ... On things that absolutely don’t matter.” – Bobby [13:52]
• On a son shooting his mom’s lover:
  "He walked out there with the gun. The mom said, don’t shoot, don’t shoot, don’t shoot. He fired two shots into the guy’s chest." – Bobby [40:10]
• Echo troubleshooting (“La la la” bit): [33:28-34:27]

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Timestamps – Segment Guide

• [03:05] Amy met her ex-husband’s new girlfriend – group discussion and reactions
• [09:29] Bobby’s Warren Zeiders celebrity sighting update
• [11:09] Relationship mulligans – what it means, using sports terms in relationships
• [15:16] Gambling scandals – Kylie Jenner/Travis Scott, poker tech, legal immunity explained
• [29:05] Louvre jewel heist – disguise, getaway mechanics, expert critique, DNA left behind
• [36:17] Lori Loughlin divorce, syndication money, John Stamos’ comments
• [40:10] Shocking true crime: a son shoots his mother’s lover
• [41:34] Bobby’s dog goes missing, show wraps up

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, teasing, and self-deprecating humor throughout
• Open, sometimes awkward (but always respectful) about personal issues
• Playful, quick transitions between light gossip, serious crime, and odd news

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is packed with candid, humorous, and sometimes absurd stories from the cast's own lives as well as the intersection of pop culture and true crime. Listeners will appreciate the realistic portrayal of post-divorce relationships, explorations of how high-stakes gambling really works, and a side order of wild crime stories ripped from the headlines. The vibe is relatable, friendly, self-aware, and always a little bit chaotic—classic Bobby Bones Show.

Transcript

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[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Ana Ortiz]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Ana Ortiz]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Eddie]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Eddie]

This is the Bobby Bone Show.

[Ana Ortiz]

Hey, Bobby.

[Mark Delicato]

Okay, so some mild breaking news. Amy met her ex husband's new girl.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh.

[Mark Delicato]

How is she?

[Ana Ortiz]

She's pretty. She's really pretty.

[Eddie]

Prettier than you. That wasn't convenient. Well, you know, that's what I would ask myself.

[Ana Ortiz]

I don't ask myself that.

[Eddie]

That's funny.

[Ana Ortiz]

How to tell that story. I don't know.

[Mark Delicato]

What do you think, though?

[Eddie]

I would know.

[Mark Delicato]

Show us.

[Ana Ortiz]

No.

[Mark Delicato]

Do you have her Instagram?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, I'm not doing that.

[Mark Delicato]

Do you have her Instagram?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, and I'm not doing that.

[Mark Delicato]

But we won't show it to anybody. Except.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, but no, we're not even going to talk about it.

[Eddie]

We won't.

[Mark Delicato]

Okay.

[Ana Ortiz]

I don't even know. I don't know her Instagram. I don't even know if she has one.

[Mark Delicato]

I'm sure she does, but anyway, go ahead.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, anyway, I think the point is that I met her and we hugged and.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

You hugged?

[Mark Delicato]

Why would you.

[Ana Ortiz]

I went in for. I just. I just.

[Eddie]

Oh, you did?

[Ana Ortiz]

I did. I was like, hi, nice to meet you. Heard a lot about you hugging.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. Had you heard a lot about her? Yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, did you follow that up with all good things?

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, obviously I heard about from.

[Mark Delicato]

But did you say good thing? Did you say that though, right?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, I just said heard a lot about you or something. Hug? Yeah, like, good to finally meet you or something. Cuz, I mean, I have heard about her since April. Oh, May, June, July, August, September, October.

[Mark Delicato]

You know, Long time.

[Ana Ortiz]

Long time.

[Mark Delicato]

He's already met your guy.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yes, they met actually back in like April. So it was like when I first heard about her, he was finally meeting Alex for the first time.

[Mark Delicato]

Huh. And did you know you were gonna meet her?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yes. Cause it was at a. I got a heads up and she had just recently met the kids. So he's. I mean, he didn't introduce her to the kids for that long and so she was at a kid thing and then I met her and Alex was there with me. So everybody was hanging out for a second. We were all just standing in A circle, talking. Ha ha ha.

[Mark Delicato]

And hugging.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, then Alex told me when we left that he had to introduce himself to her, that I didn't do it. And I was like, oh, shoot. I'm sorry. I think I was a little nervous. But he's like, yeah, I was just standing there. And then he went in and was like, hey, I'm Alex. Nice to meet you. And I was like, okay, I'll do better at that.

[Mark Delicato]

Somebody's echoing.

[Ana Ortiz]

Is it?

[Mark Delicato]

I hate to kill the story. A vibe of a story and know we're live, but somebody's echoing. So just heads up. Not me. You do it. Eh, not you, Eddie. Not you. Lunchbox.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Hello?

[Mark Delicato]

Morgan.

[Eddie]

Hello.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, they did. They did. Light hellos.

[Ana Ortiz]

Is it me?

[Mark Delicato]

A little bit. Yeah, it's.

[Ana Ortiz]

But I don't know why. It's me.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Are my headphones too loud?

[Mark Delicato]

Probably.

[Eddie]

It could be. It could be that. That thing right there.

[Mark Delicato]

Hold on.

[Ana Ortiz]

Who's it? Eminem? Can I get more in my.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I heard the echo.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, it's probably coming out of my headphones.

[Mark Delicato]

What you do? Okay, we'll back it up. Well, it wasn't doing that for me, huh? Yeah, I sound pretty good.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yep.

[Mark Delicato]

Okay. Anyway, back to it then.

[Ana Ortiz]

Back to it.

[Mark Delicato]

So where were we?

[Ana Ortiz]

That's where we were.

[Mark Delicato]

Were you at somebody's house?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, we were at a kid thing.

[Mark Delicato]

And do you think you could be friends with this person if it wasn't for your ex husband?

[Ana Ortiz]

I think so.

[Mark Delicato]

Nice. Would that ever happen?

[Ana Ortiz]

Maybe.

[Mark Delicato]

Would you like for that to happen?

[Ana Ortiz]

Back when we were first getting divorce, I was. Had this weird vision of, like, one day, you know, we'll see what happens. We can all get along and vacation together.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. And then. And then. And then I was like, that may not happen. And then after we were all standing in a circle, I was like, maybe that could happen.

[Mark Delicato]

I hear you. And that's a very mature thing, and I'm sure that's awesome for people who can do it, but it'd be tough me to vacation with somebody who had at one point had sex with the person I was currently with.

[Ana Ortiz]

I didn't think about that.

[Eddie]

Yeah, because that's her side of it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, no, because, I mean, but my boyfriend's there too.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Eddie]

It's everyone's side of it. Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Like, you're all. It's like the Spider man meme. Like, you did. You did.

[Eddie]

I bet Amy, though, you probably would just want to move on. Like.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, no, no. We're Moving on. I think the only reason that would happen would be, like, for the kids, like, a health. Like. But I don't see a situation where that would make sense. I mean, you see other people do it, and she. She doesn't have kids, so it's not.

[Mark Delicato]

She. Younger man, Guys, a date. Younger women.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay. That's you and my boyfriend.

[Eddie]

All the guys we're talking about here.

[Mark Delicato]

It's every guy. The history of time.

[Ana Ortiz]

I know.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, how about that?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. So here we are.

[Mark Delicato]

Was there a chance you would run into her at any time? Like, are the circles at all, like, professional circles?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, she's a very different job. She's very successful.

[Eddie]

Oh, you are too, though.

[Ana Ortiz]

She's very smart.

[Mark Delicato]

And you're. You are, too.

[Ana Ortiz]

In a dirt. Yes. In a different way.

[Eddie]

I got that. She, like, she's probably not dyslexic.

[Mark Delicato]

That has nothing to do with intelligence. I don't feel like it has nothing to do with intelligence.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, no, she's like. I don't want to say. I could tell you her job.

[Mark Delicato]

Then don't. You can text me or whatever.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, I'll tell you her job because it's impressive.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh, really?

[Ana Ortiz]

It's impressive and, like, she owns her own thing. Yeah.

[Eddie]

That's cool.

[Mark Delicato]

But your boyfriend has a big job.

[Eddie]

That's impressive.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Boom.

[Ana Ortiz]

Sure.

[Eddie]

Even.

[Mark Delicato]

Let me see what we got here.

[Eddie]

Score. Zero. Zero.

[Mark Delicato]

Let me see what we got here. I don't have a text yet.

[Eddie]

She's still writing the title out. No.

[Mark Delicato]

No way.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. Like, and has her own business. Female.

[Mark Delicato]

Can you tell me. Can you give me more details I just sent you?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, she, like, does her. Has her own practice.

[Eddie]

Wow. Well, practice.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, now you.

[Eddie]

That kind of gave it away. Oh, because I was thinking rocket science, law.

[Mark Delicato]

That's. Yeah. But now we know it's not that because you just used that as an example.

[Eddie]

Now we know it's something else.

[Ana Ortiz]

Whatever. Yeah, I know. She's like.

[Mark Delicato]

That's cool.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. Kind.

[Mark Delicato]

Pretty. That's good.

[Ana Ortiz]

Successful.

[Mark Delicato]

So are you. All the things you are. All of those. So yesterday we text Warren Zider. Ziders. Oh, yeah.

[Eddie]

You thought you saw him.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, my pretty little poison. I thought I saw him at a sushi restaurant, but we were pretty far away. Also, I'm known as the guy who doesn't see very well in Kos 4. It was him. Mike texted him. And Mike. Turns out it was not him.

[Eddie]

Oh, dang.

[Mark Delicato]

Said he was at the airport, about to hit the road. Yes.

[Eddie]

And then we'll never know if he wears his ponytail through the hat hole.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, I'm assuming he doesn't.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I was curious about that.

[Mark Delicato]

I would think you have to if you want it to look like a ponytail.

[Eddie]

Correct.

[Mark Delicato]

Because otherwise it's just going to be the long hair coming out of your hat. Yeah, I don't think that's as feminine as you guys led me to believe it was.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, maybe guys do it.

[Eddie]

You made it seem like nobody does it, but I've seen guys do that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay.

[Mark Delicato]

I think it's the aesthetic you want. Do you want the long hair coming out, like, down over your shoulders or do you want the ponytail look? Because unless you're going to ponytail it with a ponytail holder and then put a hat over it, which will be hard, you got to put it through the hole.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I've never had long hair, so I don't know that decision.

[Mark Delicato]

Would you like to have long hair? I'd love it. Dude. Would you like to have long hair or do you just wish you had long hair? Because that means you would have some hair.

[Eddie]

No, When I was younger, all I wanted was long hair, but my dad didn't let me have long hair. And, like, at some point, like in college, I wanted dreads. I've always wanted dreads, even if it was like, the corn.

[Mark Delicato]

Have you ever seen many Mexican guys with dreads?

[Eddie]

No.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I haven't either. I'm just thinking, like, no, I don't think I've ever seen one. My cousin had dreads and he looked pretty cool.

[Eddie]

Yeah, see, dude, that'd be awesome. But they always said, like, oh, you can't wash your hair, you gotta tangle them up. And, like, that'd be tough. I'd probably smell a little bit.

[Mark Delicato]

All right, let's go around the room and let's do some stories. Amy, over to you.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, I'm getting. Okay. So have you ever asked your spouse for a mulligan?

[Mark Delicato]

In what way? Because that. Yeah, like, because that could be. I mean, you could.

[Eddie]

It's a redo, right?

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. You get caught cheating. Oh, can I get a mulligan? Or you get caught, like, spending a bunch of money.

[Ana Ortiz]

It's essentially you asking for a do over.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, we know what a mulligan is.

[Eddie]

We play golf.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, this is the golf term.

[Mark Delicato]

This is new to me, but I guess. No, sure. I've messed up before and said it's.

[Ana Ortiz]

A free shot sometimes given to a golfer in an informal play when the previous shot was poorly played.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying, like, if she catches you cheating, it's hard to just go, I'm gonna use my mulligan on this one.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, well, sometimes the mulligan doesn't count there.

[Mark Delicato]

Just how big can the mulligan be?

[Ana Ortiz]

You? Well, that's going to be up to you when you want to call it, but it can just be like an understanding. And I feel like. Like, would you like it if you had, like, sports terms for your relationship talk?

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, there are analogies that I use with her because she's also a sports fan, so. Yes, it. It, it works some.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, well, the rule is when a mulligan is called, the other partner doesn't get to hold you to what was said in the first round. It's all let go and then have a quality conversation after. So maybe it's more when you're in a discussion and it's not going well and you're like, can I call a mulligan? And then you take a beat and then you start over. Yeah, it's just a little something for your back pocket.

[Eddie]

See, I always say. I didn't say that. And she can't prove that. I didn't say that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Did you say it?

[Eddie]

Probably.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. And I always say you. You are misinterpreting me.

[Eddie]

That, too. That works.

[Ana Ortiz]

See, y' all are just a bunch of gas.

[Eddie]

Well, no, that's better than a mulligan. We don't know, Amy.

[Mark Delicato]

We're not gaslighters. You're misinterpreting what I'm saying.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, okay.

[Eddie]

That's not what I said. Amy. You can' that here, though, because everything's audio, right?

[Ana Ortiz]

We have audio and visual. I don't know. I guess I just thought, like, Mulligan, that was like, a cute little way to have a do over.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I guess it depends on the significance of the allowed Mulligan.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, I think more so like you. If you're in a moment, you walk.

[Mark Delicato]

In on her and she's on top of some other dude.

[Ana Ortiz]

Stop.

[Mark Delicato]

And she's like, mulligan. Ah, crap. Okay, you haven't used yours this year.

[Eddie]

So I use mine.

[Mark Delicato]

Let's. Let's start over. I give you 10 minutes.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm thinking that it's more of like you're having a major disconnect in the moment. Like, can we just scratch this and start over?

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah, we do that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, but it's kind of cute to give it a name like Mulligan.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, but if I give it a name, it means I'm admitting that. And mostly I was just misinterpreting what's.

[Ana Ortiz]

So bad about admitting that you were wrong? Maybe. What's so bad about that?

[Mark Delicato]

I do admit I'm wrong a lot. A lot, a lot. On things that absolutely don't matter. So then I'm like, you know, I just admit I'm wrong so much around here. It's kind of one of my techniques is where, like, I'm like, I'm so sorry I was so wrong. And you know what? It seems like a lot of times in the past few weeks I've been talking about how sorry and how wrong I am, and I'm just gonna try to get better at that, but it's always about stupid stuff, like, where did you put the mango? And I'm like, it was in the fridge. And she's like, but why would it be in the fridge? I'm stupid and I'm wrong. And I'm like, you know what? One of the things I need to work on is admitting that I'm wrong, and I'm sorry about that.

[Ana Ortiz]

This doesn't sound healthy.

[Mark Delicato]

I didn't claim it was, but then I can't be told. You never admit you're wrong. I can list five things I admitted I was wrong about.

[Eddie]

Mango.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, they were stupid, insignificant things.

[Mark Delicato]

But am I lying? Am I lying about saying I've been admitting I'm wrong a lot lately?

[Ana Ortiz]

You're padding a case.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. Okay, great. Isn't that what marriage is? One big padded case?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, it doesn't have to be. No, no.

[Eddie]

I don't know what marriage is, actually.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I think it's different for everybody. This month it's a padded case. Next month it's a mulligan.

[Eddie]

It's all different things.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go. Now you know what a mulligan is in golf and in a relationship.

[Mark Delicato]

Thank you very much. Lunchbox.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Oh, yeah. The gambling scandal. Kylie Jenner's New York love nest that her and Travis Scott lived in was one of the Manhattan places that they were using for the illegal gambling.

[Mark Delicato]

The poker love nest.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

That's what they called it. Kylie Jenner's New York City love nest.

[Mark Delicato]

That feels like the Super 8 where you go to just get it on with somebody at work during lunch.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Was that not where they live? It's just where they did that.

[Mark Delicato]

Probably like a third home.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Yeah, it was where they lived when she was pregnant with their second child before they moved back to the West Coast. But why? They owned it or rented it or whatever. That's where the poker games. One of the two Places in Manhattan that they were going on.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. So one was in Manhattan, but then one was out. Where all the rich people go?

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Greenwich. Oh, no. Hamptons.

[Mark Delicato]

Hamptons, yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, so all East Coast.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, from what I read, this story is developing every day.

[Eddie]

I know.

[Mark Delicato]

I looked at what they were doing with the cards.

[Ana Ortiz]

What?

[Mark Delicato]

It's so cool.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, the cheating.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. Because they would show you what it looked. Well, with glasses. So they would show you how they would mark the back of the cards. And then it was like, here's what it looks like with glasses. And you put. Because you play poker with glasses on. You can. A lot of people do. So you can't see their eyes because eyes will do a couple things. Not only is it looking around, it's hiding emotion. Sometimes you're showing emotion whenever you don't mean to.

[Eddie]

The poker face. You need that poker face.

[Mark Delicato]

Sure. But they said, here's what it looks like with glasses. And they put the glasses on. It shows on the back of the cards. Q7. What it was 8. They take the glasses off, and it just. It's just a normal deck of cards.

[Eddie]

See, what's funny is, my wife was like, the technology is so cool. Like. And I'm like, that's not big technology. They. The Captain Crunch used to do that with a decoder lens. You remember that?

[Mark Delicato]

I think it was slightly elevated, but yes.

[Eddie]

Same concept.

[Mark Delicato]

That's what it felt like. Yes.

[Eddie]

You had this, like, little monocle or whatever, and then you can read stuff on the box that wasn't really there when. With the naked eye.

[Mark Delicato]

They did have X ray technology underneath the tables.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

That's cool.

[Mark Delicato]

Which is cool. You could see it, like, underneath the cards. You just wonder how it got out. Because there's only a few ways it would have got out. Either, A, somebody got in trouble for something else. Smaller. And it's like, okay, we're gonna take in. We know there's some, I don't know, grand larceny, whatever. And, like. Yep. But I know something bigger, and I can give you this for you giving me a lesser sentence on that, because they'll do that a lot if you can turn over and give them something even bigger.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

They'll limit the smaller that they're gonna hold against you.

[Eddie]

Is that a plea bargain? I guess I've heard that term.

[Mark Delicato]

I don't think that's a plea bar. I don't.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

That's a plea bargain where you don't get in trouble. What is it called? Whatever you tell them they can't hold against you. They're gonna let you off scot free. I don't know what it's called.

[Mark Delicato]

Immunity.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Yeah, that's it.

[Mark Delicato]

But immunity is a bit different. Immunity is you're gonna fully like, let's say we all went robbed a bank together, nobody knew. And it's like, you know what? I think we might all get in trouble. So I'm go to the cops, be like, hey, if you give me full immunity, I'll tell you about everybody, everybody did on this situation that I'm in. I think they're similar. Ish. But this is only one of the options that I think could have happened. One, somebody was getting in trouble for something and they're like, I also know about this legal gambling ring. It is so much bigger, so much more significant that will lead to not only poker, but the NBA. You give me lots of charges down here, I will tell you all about that.

[Ana Ortiz]

But then I think after they. So I was recently watching something with where there was a murder committed and someone did. The cops were desperate for like the body. So they're like, if you tell us where the body is. I guess now that I'm thinking about it, I think he got immunity, but he's the one that ended up doing it. So eventually later, like no immunity.

[Mark Delicato]

Here's immunity gets taken away. You can't murder somebody and say I'll tell you where the body is for my murder if you give me immunity.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, he. But later he.

[Mark Delicato]

But immunity is not immunity means nothing can happen.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well then maybe it's not. I think it was that because then later then I would murder.

[Mark Delicato]

I would murder somebody and call immediately be like, I'll tell you what I did and why I did it. Immunity. Immunity, right.

[Ana Ortiz]

So then he confessed to everything. But they couldn't convict him for the murder because whatever deal he had made previously. So now that person doesn't have a convicted murderer.

[Mark Delicato]

So there must have been a ton of other things that he was going through.

[Ana Ortiz]

There were other things, yes. But still that person's life. There's still nobody convicted of his murder. And, and that, that's where you call them all again do over.

[Mark Delicato]

I see the legal term is called concessions where they lighten or take away some charges. So. So okay, these are just my theories. Either a, it was concessions, didn't know that was a term where they lesser charges or somebody found out that they had been cheated because that's what was happening. High dollar people were going into games they never had a chance to win. Somehow it got to them. They were cheated, they're like, that's not fair. Like, screw this, I'm going to just let everybody know or tell a couple people in the FBI. Those would be the two theories that I would if you were to like guess what's happened.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Because if you weren't part of that crew and you were losing a bunch of and you found out that people were cheating and winning a bunch. Yeah, I'd be pissed.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. But then what if somebody finds out you're the one that told?

[Mark Delicato]

They won't because you have human body immunity where your body can't get hurt by anybody.

[Ana Ortiz]

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[Ana Ortiz]

In.

[Mark Delicato]

The new podcast Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive, and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill.

[Ana Ortiz]

But little by little, their dream starts.

[Mark Delicato]

To crumble and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it they actually lose it. They sort of went nuts until one night, everything spins out of control.

[Ana Ortiz]

Listen to Hell in Heaven on the.

[Mark Delicato]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's Ana Ortiz and I'm Mark and Delicato.

[Ana Ortiz]

You might know us as Hilda and.

[Mark Delicato]

Justin from Ugly Betty. We played mother and son on the.

[Ana Ortiz]

Show, but in real life, we're best friends.

[Mark Delicato]

And I'm all grown up now.

[Ana Ortiz]

Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. Can you believe it has been almost 20 years? That's not even possible.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, you're the only one that looks that much different.

[Ana Ortiz]

I look exactly the same. We're rewatching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions.

[Mark Delicato]

The drama, and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard before. You're going to hear from guests like America Ferreira, Vanessa Williams, Michael Urie, Becky Newton, Tony Plana, and so many more icons.

[Ana Ortiz]

Each and every one, all of a sudden, like, someone, like, comes running up to me and it's Salma Hayek and she's like, you are my Ugly Betty. And I was like, what is she even talking about? Listen to Viva Betty as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

[Mark Delicato]

You get your podcasts.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Rejuan. And on our podcast, Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history. Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracon to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way. Bring back the ostracon. And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.

[Mark Delicato]

Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golf of the Mexico. No, the America. No, the America.

[Ana Ortiz]

Forever and ever. It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights. Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Yeah, so I think what happened is apparently what I read is that John Tay Porter, the NBA player, they got busted a couple years ago, so they had five people charging that, and that's where they got the information is one of those Five people in that little. When with that bust looking through their information is where they were turned onto the bigger ring and started looking at these other people. And that's how it got. It has been. That's how they started investigating the gambling, the poker and the Terry Rosier.

[Ana Ortiz]

So those guys.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

There was a guy watch. There was a professional poker player that five years ago on his podcast talked about the Chauncey Billups poker games and said, oh, I have some buddies that were professional players and they would go to these games and they would all lose. And we all decided, we're not going to those anymore. They're all rigged. And he said it on his podcast.

[Mark Delicato]

There have been a few of those stories come out. I watched that guy's story. But there have been a few guys too, who've been like, they're bringing up old tweets too. Like, you don't play with these guys because they. They cheat you.

[Eddie]

Dang.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, but the FBI had. Has had to be involved in this for years. You know, this isn't just. We figured it out yesterday.

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Kick in the door.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. I can't wait for this documentary.

[Eddie]

It'd be a good one.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, the crazy thing is, to me as a sports guy, like, they cleared Rosier at the NBA. They were like, they cleared him of the charges. Well, the FBI is like, nope. And so the NBA gets. Got egg on their face because they cleared them because obviously they didn't want someone in their league that was basically cheating. And so they were like, no, no, cleared him. And the FBI was like, no, not when did they. Not only that, but last year.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Mark Delicato]

He set out a bunch too, with an injury, but probably the NBA was like, you're done. But there are other instances. I read some of the court documents this morning or some of the documents this morning where it was. They were also telling people, hey, this guy's not gonna play. Load up on the Lakers this game. And they would either get a cut of the winnings or paid a flat fee. Like different people involved in basketball. But it just turns out that because there is no such thing as the mafia. It's not a.

[Eddie]

But it sounds cool.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, so there are. I said this yesterday. There's organized crime and there are families specifically, and they're Italian. But there's no proper mafia. It's not like a group. It's not like Iheartradio, where the mafia is just a generalized term for organized crime. And sometimes it's family, multiple families, but there's not like one universal. Who are you representing the Mafia? No, no, no. But yes, it was organized crime families. But it's pretty. It's pretty wild story, Pretty cool story. Makes, you know, we talked about this minute yesterday. But you look back at the referee, referee scandal that happened, and NBA is like, nope, just him, nobody else. And you saw what they did with Terry Roger, where they're like, nope, we clear them. They just don't want again egg on their faces. So they just try to isolate it, cut it out, and go. Nothing else was going on where it looks like there was obviously a lot more going on.

[Eddie]

And see, that makes me mad as a sports gambler. That makes me mad.

[Mark Delicato]

You know, you can play poker in your house. It doesn't matter where. You can play high stakes poker in your house.

[Eddie]

But I can't be taking a cut from people.

[Mark Delicato]

What do you mean?

[Eddie]

Like, I can't have a big poker game and then whatever. You make the house.

[Mark Delicato]

The rake.

[Eddie]

My house.

[Mark Delicato]

Right. You can't.

[Eddie]

10%, whatever. That.

[Mark Delicato]

That is what makes it illegal. That is what the other gambling story was with Gilbert Arenas, I don't know, two, three months ago. You can't have a big poker game where you're taking a part of the pot each time, which is what Vegas does.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Now all your friends can come over, and you guys, you can play a.

[Mark Delicato]

Million bucks a hand. It's absolutely legal. There's no. You can play 10 million bucks a hand absolutely legal. It's just illegal if, like, the house takes a little bit of each pot.

[Eddie]

So, yeah, that's what's up.

[Mark Delicato]

All right, Morgan.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, have you guys seen the new footage of the Louvre robbers getaway?

[Mark Delicato]

Like, going back down the crane.

[Eddie]

Oh, dude, they pull up a bucket truck right next to the building.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, well, that's also.

[Mark Delicato]

Is that not a crane?

[Ana Ortiz]

They broke in. Did I say that wrong?

[Eddie]

I mean, it's a crane.

[Mark Delicato]

It looks.

[Ana Ortiz]

It's a crane.

[Mark Delicato]

Okay. Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

And it's funny, though, because it's just moving so slow. And I'm like, how did nobody catch them? And then there's also evidence that they, like, some of them left on scooters. And I'm like, seriously, out of all of this happening, not one of them was caught.

[Eddie]

But honestly, Morgan, it looks like just construction workers just working on the wall or the window.

[Mark Delicato]

The video of them inside the Louvre work in construction jackets. Those yellow jackets. Yeah, that's. They just look like. But they did it all in seven minutes.

[Eddie]

I know.

[Mark Delicato]

I wonder if they built. Because, you know, Navy SEALs will build exact replicas of Places they're going to break into based on their intel, and they'll practice running through it.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

I wonder if they built, like, not a whole Louvre, because that's, you know, but if they built, like, a replica of getting up into a building, going down, shattering, taking, getting out.

[Eddie]

I feel if you're gonna do it right, that's what you would do.

[Ana Ortiz]

So this professional jewelry heister guy was being interviewed. I guess he's one of the more infamous ones, and he said, these guys are a bunch of amateurs.

[Eddie]

Hold on. Was this on? Like, where did he say this?

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, Buzzfeed or something? I don't know.

[Mark Delicato]

Amateurs. But they got away with it. They don't even have. They have no clue who it is, right?

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, he said something about how they. They have something where he's maybe certain they're probably going to get caught.

[Mark Delicato]

Maybe he's jealous.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Because he sounds like this sounds like a haterade. Well, he said they got into the.

[Ana Ortiz]

Louvre, that they dropped a crown.

[Mark Delicato]

Well, yeah.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

What.

[Ana Ortiz]

What are these losers?

[Eddie]

But this guy, who's the best high sist ever or whatever, like, he. He got caught, right? Obviously, or else he wouldn't be talking about stealing jewels.

[Mark Delicato]

But if you do it over a lot longer.

[Ana Ortiz]

He did it over, like, in the 80s and 90s and had.

[Mark Delicato]

Man, I could have been heist in.

[Ana Ortiz]

A lot of success.

[Mark Delicato]

I mean, with what we know now, we could have been heist. If we were put back into the 60s, can you imagine the crimes we could get away with?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, man, those were the days.

[Eddie]

Like, who's the guy that jumped out of the plane?

[Mark Delicato]

DL Lewis.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

DB Lewis. DB Johnson, whatever his name is. Crazy DB Cooper. Thank you.

[Eddie]

He parachuted out of a plane.

[Mark Delicato]

Hijacked it.

[Eddie]

Hijacked it. And then everyone's like, well, never found him.

[Mark Delicato]

Might have died.

[Eddie]

Might have.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, so investigators have found DNA evidence and are using a massive er. However, it's unlikely the stolen jewels will ever be recovered. But they do predict that the thieves that entered the Louvre will likely be caught.

[Snacks from Trapped Nerds]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

So there was one. It was a motorcycle helmet and a glove, and the glove were found, and that's what they're using. And will the glove fit?

[Eddie]

Man, that. That is amateur hour.

[Mark Delicato]

Wonder if it's Chauncey Billups.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Mm. That's the basketball coach. For those who are wondering, the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers was freaking arrested for gambling. That's crazy.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

At first I thought when they arrested him for that, it was gonna be just poker games. I was like, who Cares. It's poker. But then when you find out there's basketball related. Oh, man, what a nightmare. Also, if you're the one of the four or five of the heisters, who leaves behind a glove.

[Eddie]

I know, but the move would be.

[Mark Delicato]

The ultimate move would be to leave behind a glove or a helmet accidentally with someone else's DNA in it who had no involvement at all. And put. And get those dogs sniffing on that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, I hope whoever they leave behind, their really bad, bad, bad, bad person.

[Mark Delicato]

Right.

[Eddie]

Whose DNA?

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, like, hey, that's showbiz, baby.

[Eddie]

That'd be terrible.

[Mark Delicato]

A dead person.

[Eddie]

Okay, that's cool.

[Mark Delicato]

Anything.

[Eddie]

Somebody that cheated on your wife and.

[Mark Delicato]

Didn'T have them all again left. Yep.

[Eddie]

That dude get his DNA.

[Mark Delicato]

But it's like, that would be the M.O. if you were really thinking, like, intelligently about it, you would want it to look like an idiot did it and got away with it because they think they could find you because you did stupid stuff like leave it home in the glove, but you actually did that on purpose to make people think you were dumb. Like, that's revolt. That's next. That's next level, man.

[Eddie]

You. I was watching, you know, the. The guy that killed all the college students in Idaho, Brian Kohlberg or whatever. But now there's footage of just him hanging out, going to Costco, like the next.

[Mark Delicato]

I still gotta echo really bad. I don't know if it's that screen. I don't know what it is. If it's in the studio, I don't know what it is. I still gotta echo really bad. It's driving me up insane. I can't even focus on the amazing things you guys are. It can't be that.

[Eddie]

It can't be that.

[Mark Delicato]

Because it's too far, too far away.

[Ana Ortiz]

So you want to mulligan.

[Mark Delicato]

The whole show just hit delete. Except we're live right now. Okay, everybody be quiet for one second. La la la la la la la. It is not me.

[Eddie]

I hear it.

[Mark Delicato]

No, you don't. It is not me. La la la. It is not me. Give me some power. Go.

[Ana Ortiz]

La la la la la.

[Mark Delicato]

It's not you, is it?

[Ana Ortiz]

Not coming out of my headphones.

[Mark Delicato]

It's not you. Okay, do it again.

[Ana Ortiz]

La la la la la.

[Mark Delicato]

Not you, Eddie.

[Ana Ortiz]

La la la la la la la.

[Mark Delicato]

Again.

[Eddie]

La.

[Mark Delicato]

Not you, Morgan. Go loud.

[Ana Ortiz]

My microphone wasn't on, so I don't think it's me.

[Mark Delicato]

Try it anyway.

[Ana Ortiz]

Hello, Hello. Hello.

[Mark Delicato]

Lunchbox. Go. La la la la la la la la la.

[Ana Ortiz]

La la La la la.

[Mark Delicato]

La la la la.

[Eddie]

Is it gone?

[Mark Delicato]

Of course. Now it's not even echoing. It's like we take a car in. I swear to God to making this noise.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Okay. Eddie, talk with me. Nope. And we talk with me. Nope. Could it be Mike's mic? He's the only one we haven't tried.

[Eddie]

Mine's been off though.

[Ana Ortiz]

Dang.

[Eddie]

Maybe when everyone's talking.

[Mark Delicato]

I don't know. Okay, everybody go 1, 2, 3.

[Eddie]

I don't know, man.

[Mark Delicato]

Are you hearing it, Mike? I only heard it when I pulled up that iPad.

[Eddie]

Yeah, if you get close to that iPad, it definitely has a little thing to it.

[Mark Delicato]

It's so far away though.

[Eddie]

But it's so far away. That can't be it.

[Mark Delicato]

All right, one more time. I'm just aborting mission. Eddie, you got a story?

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, wasn't the Brian guy.

[Eddie]

It wasn't. That was just kind of on top of just.

[Mark Delicato]

So what was that?

[Eddie]

It was that guy that killed the four college students in Idaho. Whatever. There's footage now of just like him hanging out. Like nothing ever happened.

[Ana Ortiz]

The day after, like at Costco.

[Eddie]

Yeah, he's just going to Costco. So there's surveillance footage of him just. It's just eerie to see like what somebody did the night before. I mean, even like at 4 in the morning. And this footage is like at 10am he's just shopping at Costco. No big deal. The fact that in his brain he knows what he just did.

[Ana Ortiz]

We heard.

[Mark Delicato]

Yes, I would say, oh, his ability to do that is also that same thing that allows him to go to Costco, though, the next day.

[Eddie]

The ability to kill cold blooded murder.

[Mark Delicato]

Multiple people and it not really affect him. It's the same thing, is to not be affected by it the next day is the same thing that led him to do it. That actually allowed him to do it and that allowed him to go about his day.

[Eddie]

And then the fact that there are so many people there at Costco just interacting with him, not knowing that he just killed four people.

[Ana Ortiz]

You know, Costco's gonna be like, what the.

[Mark Delicato]

I bet they revoked his card.

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah, he's not a member there anymore.

[Mark Delicato]

They turned. No chance they turned it off. All right, your story.

[Eddie]

Yeah, my story is Lori Loughlin. I was looking at their divorce. You know, she's getting divorced from her husband. He's worth 100 million. But they're saying that she signed a prenup so she will not get any of that money. But I'm assuming she's okay, right. Like Lori, she had a good career. She probably has her own money.

[Mark Delicato]

But did she have a good career? I mean, she was famous in the 90s and stopped working. Well, but.

[Ana Ortiz]

But Full Fuller House came back.

[Eddie]

Was she in that?

[Mark Delicato]

I don't think she was on it.

[Ana Ortiz]

She wasn't.

[Mark Delicato]

I don't know.

[Eddie]

I remember.

[Ana Ortiz]

Why wouldn't she be?

[Mark Delicato]

But even shows like that are different.

[Ana Ortiz]

Because she probably had a lot of legal fees.

[Mark Delicato]

You make a lot of money now through shows that you did that were syndicated then. They don't syndicate shows anymore for the most part, because, one, cable television, not what it was. And two, when you do a show on a streamer that's not syndicated, they just have it and it lives there through syndication. Friends would be syndicated. They would do the season of it. Everybody gets paid all this money per episode. And then syndication. You can sell it to a different network in every city. Right. They pay a bit of money to have the syndication rights to it. But on a streamer, you don't need to buy it because it's just always there. You don't resell it to anybody else because it lives on that place. There's almost no syndication money now because people aren't buying as many things that are syndicated.

[Eddie]

So if, like, Netflix buys Full House.

[Mark Delicato]

Fuller House.

[Eddie]

Fuller House.

[Mark Delicato]

They pay them one time.

[Eddie]

They pay them one time.

[Ana Ortiz]

So she was in Fuller House, but then in the final season, due to her involvement in the college. College admission. Admission scandals, she was cut from the show.

[Mark Delicato]

I can't imagine she made a bunch of money from that. Yeah, probably decent. But also, she's not getting paid over and over again like she did because I'm sure she made some really good money depending on her syndication contract from Full House being syndicated. But again, now those shows aren't syndicated as many places because not as many people are buying shows anymore because there just aren't as many shows anymore.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, I've seen her in a lot of Lifetime, Hallmark type.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen her some of those.

[Mark Delicato]

Probably. I would assume, though, when she has the lifestyle that she had with this guy.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

You don't have to work. Why would you go work and kill yourself whenever you don't have to?

[Eddie]

They're making it seem like she's gonna be, like, in financial trouble once this is all said and done, because I don't know. This guy's rich. I guess 100 million is pretty rich.

[Mark Delicato]

I would imagine he's probably richer than that. That's just what they know of.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Honestly, I Thought that was kind of low for him.

[Mark Delicato]

The Mossimo brand was massive in the 90s, 2000s.

[Eddie]

Oh, dude. I remember I used to write the logo on my trapper.

[Mark Delicato]

Like the cursive M and stuff.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it was just so cool. It was so coolly written that I would always try to trace it.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I saw John Stamos going after him a little bit in an interview.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. He said he was a narcissist. You'll never talk to him again. Team Laurie.

[Eddie]

That's what he said.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, he didn't say Team Lori, but that's what he was.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

I don't know enough about either one of them to take a call for a team.

[Eddie]

We don't know them personally at all.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. Let's see, my turn. Has everybody gone for me?

[Eddie]

Your turn.

[Mark Delicato]

Some guys have been known to be overprotective with their moms or their wives or their girlfriends. Here's a story about a guy, he's 24 years old, Dylan Lang. He admitted to state troopers he shot a 55 year old man when he learned that guy was having sex with his mom. So Hagan is the older guy. That's the 55 year old guy. Reportedly, Hagan had been out drinking with his mom and had returned to her home when they just started, you know, doing what adults do, hooking up. The kid, who's 24, not a kid, we'll call him the kid in the situation because there's a mom and a kid. The kid lived at the house with the mom and was mad enough when he discovered them in the truck kind of getting it on that he walked out there with the gun. The mom said, don't shoot, don't shoot, don't shoot. He fired two shots into the guy's chest. Killed him.

[Eddie]

What the.

[Mark Delicato]

He's now facing multiple charges and being held without bail. Fox Baltimore with the story. Because he was hooking up with his mom, but he wasn't. It wasn't against mom's will.

[Eddie]

No, she's. She's an adult. Yeah. And you're living at home still like, dude.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I mean, it would be tough to see that. Yeah, I wouldn't want to see that.

[Mark Delicato]

And as a parent, I bet it's tough that your 24 year old still lives at home too.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Wouldn't want to see that.

[Eddie]

That shouldn't happen.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. New study shows that banning cell phones in school may lead to higher test scores.

[Eddie]

Telling you guys they're starting to put them in cubbies, taking those phones away.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. I think Florida recently Released like all these stats proving that.

[Eddie]

I mean, if I had a phone in call in high school, like I'd be on it all the time.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I just got a message that one of the dogs is gone. Oh, no.

[Eddie]

All right, search party.

[Mark Delicato]

Let me see here.

[Eddie]

I closed the gate.

[Ana Ortiz]

It closes itself.

[Eddie]

Just saying.

[Ana Ortiz]

What?

[Mark Delicato]

That's a good point.

[Eddie]

I'm clear.

[Ana Ortiz]

The gate closes behind you.

[Mark Delicato]

I think I'm have to go go find this dog. We live by a busy highway and it's a busy time of the day. Yeah, that's the part you have the.

[Eddie]

Tracker and everything still.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, but the sucky thing about the Apple airtag is if it's not near something that reads, it can be totally gone and not show up for like 18 minutes.

[Eddie]

Oh, weird.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, that kind of sucks.

[Eddie]

That's like a cell phone tower ping.

[Mark Delicato]

That's kind of what that is. Yeah. So I guess I'm gonna have to jump early.

[Eddie]

Well, I'll help.

[Mark Delicato]

Because she's not the last. I see.

[Eddie]

Is it Eller?

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. And she went out.

[Ana Ortiz]

Which one do you think?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I didn't. Stanley would be right. Right there.

[Mark Delicato]

Stanley might see the door open and is like, that's too much work.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm good.

[Mark Delicato]

He didn't want to go out and look at the sun. It reminds me a lot of myself.

[Eddie]

I love him.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah. So this is gonna be a shorter one. I gotta go take care of that. You guys have a great weekend and we will see you guys Monday. All right, bye everybody.

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