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Amy
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Bobby Bones
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Geico Gecko
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John Morgan
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Bobby Bones
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Eddie
Show.
Bobby Bones
Coming up, our interview with John Morgan from Morgan and Morgan is pretty interesting. Wouldn't you guys agree? That's an interesting guy.
Eddie
So interesting.
Bobby Bones
A billionaire got crazy stuff. Owns the OJ Simpson Bronco, lives in Hawaii. Yeah, chills.
Amy
I almost asked if he invests in random people's ideas.
Eddie
You have ideas?
John Morgan
Glad.
Amy
He just likes to spend a lot. Like a money. Yeah, he has a lot of money to spend. And I have an idea.
Bobby Bones
If you were pitching him, what would you pitch him on?
Amy
Well, I can't. It. I can't say it. My idea is I'm in the process of developing it and then I got to figure out if I should patent it. It does not exist.
Eddie
Let's just say that in the universe, it doesn't exist.
Amy
Well, variations of it do, but not this version. And I'm sewing it.
Bobby Bones
There's so many times I have this idea, I'm like, you know, it'll be a great idea. Then I Google it. Dang it. Somebody already got that.
Amy
I know. That's what I thought about my mosquito patches. I thought this was going to be brilliant. Just like a pimple patch. You pop it on top of a mosquito. They already have them. Once I googled it, I was like, well, these patches already exist. And I'm like, dang it. I really thought I was onto something with that. This I have googled. There is something very similar that exists, but I am gonna take it to the next level.
Eddie
Okay.
Amy
Mine's more of a hybrid of some stuff. And that's why I have to sew.
Eddie
Okay, I got you.
Amy
And there will be. And maybe a little. Maybe a little.
Eddie
Yeah, I kinda know.
Amy
You have no idea what it is.
Eddie
Are you sure you haven't talked about it before?
Amy
I don't think I've ever have. I think I. The name. The name is so cute to me. So I almost asked John Morgan because he's like, clearly loves. He has got money to spend. I want to be like, hey, you like to take a shot on random radio. People you're interviewing with, they had an idea. Bobby, I'll give you a prototype.
Bobby Bones
You can just tell me what it is. And text.
Amy
I'll tell you later. I'm not going to.
Bobby Bones
It's too hard to text what it is, Right? Yeah.
Amy
Wait, what?
Bobby Bones
Eddie said that it's probably pretty weighted vests.
Amy
No, I already thought of that.
Eddie
Oh, that's not.
Amy
It exists. Yeah. I already had design in my head. Had designed this whole, like, why do weighted vests have to be so embarrassing? And it's the weight of it. And I thought maybe I could design it into a sports bra somehow so it's more sneaky. But there's these cute vests that already exist, and they are actually kind of cute, but they're very expensive. And I see why they're expensive because they're expensive to make that way. So you're wrong. It has nothing to do with.
Bobby Bones
Hey, you're wrong. Stupid.
Eddie
Yeah.
Amy
No, no, no. Actually, good guess. It's just not right.
Bobby Bones
Well, if you don't want to tell us, we'll move off that.
Amy
Well, what I was. I was just trying to say I. Why do you want to invest?
Bobby Bones
I don't know what it is. Why would I give money below?
Amy
I can't. I have to tell you later.
Bobby Bones
Oh, there's a concept that I had for a video podcast call and I did. I just looked it up now to see if it existed anywhere. And it doesn't exist anywhere in the podcast space. But I thought having a video podcast called Board Games but B O R
Amy
E D. And it makes you so bored.
Bobby Bones
No, you play games with, like, people and interview them, but you call it board games instead of B O A R D. Just a twist in that. So, like Megan Roney. But we played Connect 4 because people love to watch people do stuff. I mean, that's how. Hot ones. Yeah. So. But I thought the name was interesting and nobody has it for that. But there's a movie called that.
Amy
There's a movie called Board Games.
Bobby Bones
B O R E D. Yeah. A horror thriller about three couples trapped in an underground bunker during an apocalypse where dwindling food, supplies and sanity lead to desperate struggle for survival as the rules of their board game breaks down right up here. It only got a 3.4 out of 10. Do you know this movie, Mike?
Geico Gecko
It's a.
Bobby Bones
To be original.
Eddie
It is.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I still think that's a pretty interesting concept to play games with people as part of an interview video podcast. And board games is kind of. No, I just reminded me to look at that. But I've looked up stuff before. I'm going, I got perfect ideas. I never even seen this. And somebody's own to it.
Eddie
It is kind of cool, though, to me to think that last somebody in another, like, whatever, wherever it is, like, they started this company in Washington. I'm like, that's so cool. Somebody in Washington had that Same idea.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Eddie
I wish they didn't, but.
Amy
Yeah, I know. I really wish whoever thought of the mosquito patch hadn't. I was ready to start banking on those.
Bobby Bones
You try one of Amy's workouts?
Eddie
Yeah.
Amy
What?
Eddie
Yeah, the trampoline one.
Bobby Bones
Oh, got it. That's what you meant.
Amy
Yeah. Yeah.
John Morgan
I can't do that's.
Bobby Bones
But different.
Eddie
It's a very different.
Bobby Bones
Different trampoline.
Eddie
Very different. And I felt like I wasn't really even breaking a sweat because the jumps are so, like.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, boing, boing.
Eddie
But my back started hurting.
Bobby Bones
If you walk over here, you'll see what it is. The little.
Eddie
It's the little mini rebounder. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Amy's irritated. More golf. Because I have nothing to do with this.
Amy
No. Eddie and Scuba were talking about how y' all are all going to go golfing, and Eddie's, like, sweet when these are the dates, and he's just like, yeah. And it's like, no, work with the client. And I was like, why don't. Where's our work with a client? Like a spa day. That would be so awesome if I could go to the spa for work with a client. Because that's what y' all are doing when y' all go to Palm beach or wherever to play golf with a client for work.
Eddie
Someone's hating.
Bobby Bones
I think it's. I think that's unfair.
Eddie
Gosh, Amy.
Amy
What? No, this is all men, not just y'.
Eddie
All.
Bobby Bones
No. You literally brought up where we're going. So you're talking about us specifically?
Amy
Nobody knows. That's. I could have said, Amy, are you
Eddie
talking about us right now?
Amy
Caracas.
Bobby Bones
And are you talking about Palm beach specifically?
Amy
I'm talking about y' all golfing.
Bobby Bones
No. So this is what happened. I get a message from the president of our syndication company saying there is a massive client event happening in Palm Beach. There is a big client that wants to come on the show that's going to be playing down there, that is asked that you come and play. And it's also our cfo. It's a really. It's really nice club. And I was like, I don't want to go by myself.
Eddie
Wait, that's what happened? You made it seem like they asked us.
John Morgan
Well, no, no.
Amy
I said, I just got golf.
Bobby Bones
You can't go. Here's what's. No. Just because you have golf, everybody's good, and I'm not. I haven't played golf at all in months and months. So what sucks is I got to start playing a little bit to try to get better. I have no interest, really, in playing golf right now at all. But you can't go out of one of these and be kind of bad because it's embarrassing. I'm talking about me, not even you. You're playing at these really nice golf clubs with these people that are really good, and you're trying to, like, talk. If you're bad, it's just embarrassing for everybody. And so I said, yeah, I'm in. If you need me to talk to a client, I'm in. I said, do they just want me or can someone else? And they were like, well, if Eddie can come with you, that would be great.
Eddie
Oh, they said that?
Bobby Bones
Yes. Okay, good, good. They didn't. They did.
John Morgan
They did not say that.
Amy
Really?
Bobby Bones
Now they did. It was Julie. So she did.
Eddie
And she said that one time because
Amy
you said, do I have to come alone.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
Eddie
That was the initial conversation.
Bobby Bones
And then she said, if Eddie can come, that would be great. I said, eddie will come.
Amy
And then she said, and if Amy would like to come to the spa.
Bobby Bones
There was no spa, and we're not staying at the club.
Eddie
Amy, you have this whole thing built in your head, like it's not what you're thinking.
Amy
Yeah, no, I know what it is. Men do business on the golf course, and I need to learn golf. It is what it is. If I was awesome at golf, I'd get invited.
Bobby Bones
I agree. It's not my fault. It's not a male. Female thing.
Amy
Right? But male. Y' all just have more opportunities.
Bobby Bones
No golf. You have the exact amount of opportunities.
Amy
Yeah. Now I'm mad at my parents for not putting me in golf.
Bobby Bones
I never played golf. Growing up, I worked on a golf course. Never got to play the course. Yeah, well, don't well me.
Eddie
My dad found a stolen bag of clubs. That's how I started playing.
Amy
Okay.
Bobby Bones
You literally. You'd probably get invited more than Eddie.
Amy
I know.
John Morgan
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Eddie
They may not want Amy. They said they wanted me.
Bobby Bones
They did say that, but I'm, like, saying if Amy played, I think they'd want Amy just based on hierarchy.
Amy
Especially with my pants.
Eddie
Amy, stop it with your pants.
Bobby Bones
She's dying to wear these pants.
Eddie
Amy. Amy, why don't you.
Amy
I'm gonna show y' all my pants. Y' all are gonna be like, those are so cute.
Eddie
Amy, hear me out. Why don't you start, like, a new thing where I've got a golf.
Amy
I know.
Eddie
It's clients. What do you call it? Who are we?
Bobby Bones
Palm Beach?
Eddie
No. Okay, so, like, the. The two people like, instead of a golf course, you guys go get your nails done.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but that's not how it works. Clients aren't gonna want to do that.
Amy
Business deals done at the nail salon, they get done on the golf course.
Bobby Bones
Culture changes through evolution, not revolution. So by the time you end up trying to change a culture, it's 50 years down the road.
Amy
I need to join in.
Bobby Bones
If you want to be a part of it, you have to.
Amy
And y' all have told me this before, so this is on me.
Bobby Bones
And it's also about who has, like, good communication skills with, like, clients.
Eddie
That would be me.
Amy
As do I.
John Morgan
You.
Bobby Bones
But you don't play golf, right? I. I did not pursue this. I wish they would come here and we could just play, like, my club.
Eddie
That would be nice.
Bobby Bones
But because they're having this big event with a bunch of the biggest sponsors, they said, please come down. So that's what we're going to do. I didn't know you heard. I didn't know. You're a hater.
Amy
I was. That. I was. I wasn't totally hating anyway. I was just saying, like, wow, must be nice.
Eddie
I still think you can change the culture for the next generation.
Amy
I don't want to change the culture. I just need to. I'm mad at myself because I've. I've tried to learn golf and then I give up.
Bobby Bones
So even if you learn golf, it's still hard and you want to give up. I want to give up all the time when I play.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But if you played, you could probably be invited to this stuff.
Amy
Yeah, that's on me.
Eddie
With your pants.
Amy
With my pants.
Bobby Bones
Think of all the pants you'd have at that point. You'd have a lot of new, cool pants, not just one pair.
Amy
I promise you, the pants are cool.
Bobby Bones
We believe you. Age 47 is the peak of happiness.
Eddie
Oh, wow. So I'm supposed to be happy right now?
Bobby Bones
Happiest, the peak.
Amy
You would be happier if your testosterone.
Bobby Bones
Testosterone was higher. Yeah. The midlife crisis might be real. Research shows around age 47 is when people are.
John Morgan
Why?
Bobby Bones
47 is the age you hit peak happiness? Yeah. No, but then it says research shows around age 47 is when people are least happy before things start to improve again.
Eddie
That's weird.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. The headline doesn't match the story. Really? Scientists have found a U shaped happiness curve. People are happier when they're young and old. But there's a dip in midlife. The lowest point of happiness typically hits around 47. This pattern shows up globally even when you Factor in things like income, relationships, and education. Experts say midlife can bring stress, unmet expectations, and major life pressures.
Amy
Okay, so there's just a typo in the headline. So, Eddie, you're right where you're supposed to be. There's an up curve coming.
Eddie
So this is the low point. Yeah, I feel it for sure.
Bobby Bones
After this period, people tend to become happier again as they age. Researchers believe this rebound may come from adjusted expectations, greater acceptance, and life perspective. If you're feeling off in your 40s, don't feel alone.
Amy
Yeah.
Eddie
You know what my wife told me from Daily Mail?
Bobby Bones
What?
Eddie
Man. And I was like, it kind of, like, ruined my whole day where I had to just kind of think about this. She said, I don't think we're fun anymore. And I was like, oh, that is so sad. Like, because I'm always fun. Like, I love to have fun. But I think she's right. Like, we're so in the trenches right now with four boys, and they're all still living at home like that. Yeah. I don't think I'm having fun in my life. And I'm really. I'm definitely at the lowest of my happiness.
Amy
I bet when you go to Palm Beach.
Bobby Bones
Testosterone. Yeah. Palm beach will be fine.
Eddie
But see, here's my thinking of that, right? Like, I have a bunch of little things that I do throughout the year of just like, ooh, I can look forward to this. I'm gonna look forward to that, Mark. But now, before I even look forward to it, I'm like, it's only gonna last for two days, and then I'm gonna be back to where I am.
Amy
Seriously, I think that's your testosterone. I'm not joking. I know we're making a lot of testosterone jokes.
John Morgan
You are.
Amy
It really. It really could be that. As simple as that. That's why you need to go get help.
Eddie
Like, my wife's like, oh, we're going to get a cabin in the woods.
John Morgan
Great.
Eddie
But then on Sunday, I'm going to come right back to this.
Amy
Wow.
Eddie
So, yeah, hey, that thing's spot on. 47, man.
Bobby Bones
You're at the lowest. But happy, happy times.
Amy
Happy times are coming.
Eddie
It's coming. I feel like it is coming.
Bobby Bones
Sugar on spaghetti is a thing I didn't know about.
Amy
Yes. I saw a girl post about it, and she said she grew up doing it. And I thought, okay, I made spaghetti with meat sauce. I'm going to try this. I used. Do you know Monk fruit sugar. It's like. So I sprinkled some of that, not, not too much. You just do a little sprinkle on top, mix it in. It was delicious. And I was like, have we been missing out on this our whole lives? Like, she acted like it was very normal where she grew up. Sugar on spaghetti, like red sauce, pasta and then meat.
Eddie
So buddy the elf, he put syrup on that.
Amy
Yeah, but that was just like no red sauce. And an ingredient in marinara. There's sugar in there, but this is just adding like a little extra because the acidity from the tomatoes, like there's something about it. It was. I could see if you add too much, it could be problematic. But if you put just the right. Right amount. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Bobby Bones
I don't think I would have even tried it.
Amy
Well, I wouldn't have either, but the Internet makes you.
Eddie
Does it say use monk fruit?
Amy
No, that's just what I chose to use because I thought, I don't want to add just straight. Like if I'm going to eat sugar like that, it's going to be a cookie. Like I'm not going to.
Eddie
Yeah, good point.
Bobby Bones
So there's some. Kayla made some really great sugar cookies.
Amy
Just straight sugar cookies.
Bobby Bones
I saw the bag that the mix. Yeah, Mix was in, it said banana sugar cookies. And I think she was using like old bananas. Is that what happens?
Amy
Sometimes there's mixes and the. All you have to do is it's like put this in a bowl with a tablespoon of water and two bananas and then make.
Bobby Bones
They're so good. And I didn't think the banana part of the sugar cookie would be good. It's so good. And I can't do dairy, so whatever. There's a lot of milk, so I don't, I just don't. Maybe I'm so out of the milk game, I don't think people would notice.
Amy
Notice what?
Bobby Bones
That's not real. Like cow milk.
BetterHelp Announcer
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Bobby Bones
Because I'm very, very much out of the game though. What is it my wife's saying here? What are the chances?
Eddie
She's like, does anybody want cookies? Yeah, we do.
Amy
And a burrito. Just kidding. Inside joke.
Bobby Bones
What?
Eddie
No, she's making the burrito joke.
Amy
Eddie goes, we want a cookie. I said, and a burrito. And then I said, inside joke.
Bobby Bones
All right, why don't we get over to the John Morgan interview? You guys wanna do that?
John Morgan
Yes.
Bobby Bones
All right, Here he is, the great John Morgan.
Amy
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Geico Gecko
And now for a bit of breaking news. Between your breaking news with me, the Geico Gecko, here are some things you ought to know today. People who switch their car insurance to geico save about $900 a year. Experts are calling that nice to know. Also, plants can hear when bees buzz. My ficus just heard that. And finally, animal experts have confirmed that goats have regional accents. I'm getting a hint of Irish there.
John Morgan
It feels good to get good news. It feels good to gecko on the Bobby Bones show.
Bobby Bones
Now, John Morgan of Morgan and Morgan, there's a billboard outside of my house now with your face on it. Mr. Morgan. How are ya?
John Morgan
Very good. Good morning.
Bobby Bones
All the billboards. Are you like, I think I saw one of you as a fighter and one of you as. Do you get to pick your creative is what they have you up on the billboard.
John Morgan
I get to approve my creative. I get to suggest some of my creative. But I have some people in Brooklyn who work on it who sometimes smoke a little bit too much weed. And I get stuff I'm not able to use, but they would love to use if you, if you could ever, if you could ever see the outtakes or the clips that they would like to me to do. You really have fun.
Bobby Bones
You have a book called Life is luck, Lessons from a paperboy and how to improve your luck. So life is luck. I don't know. I feel like you've worked pretty hard. Why, why so so much on the luck side of it?
John Morgan
Well, here's what happened last. A couple, I don't know, months ago, months and months ago, Forbes magazine had me on the COVID as one of the 700 or so odd billionaires in the country. And it was a stunning thing to look at because you're so busy climbing you're not really counting. And then all of a sudden, there it is. And so I then started thinking back about everything, everything I have done to get to where I am. And when I did that look back in the rearview mirror, what I saw were 1,000 left turns, 1,000 right turns, 1,000 U turns, and a lot of time it was just flipping a coin or my Gut. And then you end up here. And what I saw was a lot of luck. Now, everybody hates to be told they're lucky. The more successful you are, the last thing you want to hear is that you're lucky. Like, if somebody would tell you you're lucky to be this great big huge DJ in America with shows everywhere, you'd push back hard because you know what it took for you to get here. You know, all the pitfalls and all the detours. But when I looked at it, I saw luck. I saw. But I saw three types of luck. Pure luck, that's just, you know, catching lightning in a bottle. Planned luck, that's Ben Franklin with a kite up in the sky looking for electricity. And then there's practiced luck. The more you do, the better you get. And so when I did that look back and those three forms of luck, I thought it would be worth sharing because I believe that luck can be found if you're looking for luck. And so it's kind of a how to book. Now. One of the things I say about my luck is, and I bet a lot of people listen to your shows. I was a paper boy. I was lucky enough to be built, Born with an entrepreneurial seed. Being a paper boy or paper girl is a murderous job. You're up every day, seven days a week, rain, sleet, snow. And so I started with that thought, the paper boy, and then I went on from there and through my book. It's not my life story, it's stories from my life where luck, pure luck, planned luck and practice, luck came to play. And the book, hopefully, is a way for the reader to. To improve their luck and thus their success.
Bobby Bones
So it had to be, if I'm going to put motivation behind this, you wanting to give something back. Because again, you're a billionaire. You didn't need the money for a book deal, right?
John Morgan
No, I didn't. I wanted to. I've written two books before this called you can't teach hungry and you can't teach vision. And, you know, you. When you get stuff up in your head, you either got to get it out or leave it in. And I have always found it's better to get it out, whether it's my businesses. Look, I had an idea years ago to build an attraction that was turned upside down, and I couldn't get it out of my head. And finally I just went ahead and built one, and it's called WonderWorks in Orlando, Florida. And I've got six of them across America and getting ready to build a seventh so for me, it was giving back, showing people what I have learned. Because when you read my book, you're going to read in my book about a lot of books that I relied on in my climb to where I am today. And so I reference and thank all those authors for what they gave me in their great books.
Bobby Bones
Whenever you have as much money as someone like yourself, you specifically, is there like one username and password that you can put in and see all your money?
John Morgan
Yeah,
Amy
like you said, I can. It consolidates everything into like a. Like a. Like a pie graph.
John Morgan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
How's that work?
John Morgan
It works well. And, you know, I get to see every drop of interest I make on every single day. So the. So the thing keeps going up, up, up, up, up, up. If you're not going up, you're going down.
Bobby Bones
So you put in your username and password. Do you need, like a retina scan or fingerprint, too? Because you don't want someone to have your information. You can just log in every day, huh?
John Morgan
I can and I do. A lot, but not as much as you would think. Not as much as my son Matt does. I mean, he's. He's over there logging in all the. All the days, like Chimp Empire. Just over there. Just click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. And he's a counter.
Bobby Bones
Is that the son. Is that the son that you fired?
John Morgan
No, I didn't fire him. I wanted to many times because he would go surfing instead of going to work, but the one I fired was Dan, who turned out to be okay, but he's the one that had to go to work at Firehouse Subs.
Bobby Bones
Why did you fire your own son?
John Morgan
I fired Dan because he was. He was working at Wonderworks and he was going. Going off to lunch and taking, like two hour lunches, two and a half hour lunches. And he wouldn't do what the manager said. And so I said to Dan, I said, look, you know, you're a problem for our business. And here's the deal, Dan. You can go to school and go look for a job, and if you don't find a job, you can just go to your room. And he got a job at Boston Market. They were going to make him cook in turkeys or ham. He was so well received there that they never let him out of the dishwasher room. So he quit, like four days later. I said, dan, think about that. They think so highly of you that you're at the bottom rung of Boston Market. I said, that's telling Me, I fired the right guy. I said, now what you need to do is go get another job. And he got a job at Firehouse Subs, became one of the great submakers of all time, learned his lesson, and to this day works his arse off.
Bobby Bones
How hard was it for you as somebody who grew up with not a lot. And you had to work hard to have kids who then had money because their dad had money. Like, how did you instill those values on them so they appreciated it?
John Morgan
Well, it's a, it's a problem in many respects. You know, when I go to, when I would travel on vacations, they traveled with me. So they're, you know, they're, they're getting that lifestyle. But what I did, I did a lot of things. One, I made them pay for their own insurance. Two, they didn't have to buy car, but they didn't get much of a good car. I mean, I think Mike's first car was a 10 year old Previa van. And I never. These parents who want to show off their own wealth through their children and the kids showing up with BMWs and Mercedes in the parking lot, I think is gross. I think is gross. Plus, you know, a 16 year old's gonna damage the car, so let's damage a 10 year old navigator or Explorer. And then I made them work. I remember one Christmas they came home and I said, have you two guys got your work schedule at Wonderworks for Christmas? And Mike said, daddy, nobody at Bishop Moore is working over Christmas. I said, that, that can't be true, Mike. And then Matt said, no, daddy, nobody's working over. He was a ninth grader. He goes, nobody's working. I said, I know that's not true because you two are working. And here's the good news. You can pick your 40 hours because I own the place. You can work from 8 to 5, 12 to 9, 5 to 2. But you two are working. I made them work.
Bobby Bones
What do you think the biggest myth is about personal injury lawyers?
John Morgan
The myth is that they're ambulance chasers that were out there, you know, looking for accidents. We don't need to look for accidents. There's enough negligence in this world. The people who call who say ambulance chasers are the people who are usually the insurance industry with propaganda and they say they're talking about frivolous lawsuits. Well, let me tell you something. It's frivolous until it's you. It's frivolous until your leg was cut off by mistake. It's frivolous until the doctor killed your father. It's frivolous until a semi truck blows through a red light and smashes your car. We only take about 8 to 9% of all the calls that come in. We don't have the money to chase BS cases. And if they were BS cases, you know, go to for the people.com and look at the last offer they made us and look at our verdicts, and you'll see it's not. But it's all by the insurance industry. And then they try to trick the people. They say, hey, these billboard TV lawyers are raising your insurance rates. We need to have tort reform which takes away people's rights for the insurance industry. And the promise is your rates are going to go down. Well, I ask every single person listening all over America today, have your rates ever, ever gone down? No, it's the big lie.
Bobby Bones
If there was a law that you could change, it could be about this specifically or something else that you deal with a lot. Like what, what do you feel like is fundamentally like the most wrong law that you would change right now?
John Morgan
There's a lot of laws. I mean, there's been tort reform going on since Christ was a baby, and it's been a, you know, tearing down. But the one thing that I would change, I would make because. And this would be. This would benefit society. I would make it mandatory to have bodily injury insurance. I would raise the level of coverage to a mandatory 25 or 50 because 40% of the people out there don't have any insurance. The person gets injured by a negligent driver, and who pays the system, Medicare, Medicaid, the system. Who should be paying is the driver, the negligent driver, the negligent doctor, whoever that caused the accident. And so I would. I would make the limits mandatory and I would raise the amount of coverage so that we don't have to tap into our social net savings type thing with Medicare, Medicaid, or just a hospital who never gets paid.
Amy
Okay, and then that. Go ahead, Mr. Morgan. I went to for the people.com, like you just said, and started scrolling through some recent cases, and there's one where y' all got the client 455 times the insurance offer. So the insurance company was offering this person $70,000 after a concrete truck ran a stop sign and crashed into her car, and she suffered lasting back and ankle injuries. Okay. And then. Morgan, Morgan, y' all got her over $31 million. 31 million. And the insurance was offering 70,000. That's crazy.
John Morgan
Exactly. And then what, what the Insurance company does, whether it's your health insurance, whether it's your homeowner's insurance, whether it's a third party. Delay, delay, deny, delay, defend, drag it out as long as they can, try to get the float on it. Meanwhile, that law firm who got. Who got the verdict handed to them, they're billing the whole time. The whole time. And. But a jury got it right. They figured out what it was. And. And the reason you get these big verdicts sometimes is the insur. Insurance companies come in there telling the jury something that's just not true, being absolutely unsympathetic, and juries get mad, and they get these big verdicts. So there are some law firms who just take the last best offer. We're on 150 dockets a week in America. We got a verdict. We got a verdict three weeks ago for $650 million for a quadriplegic who had an accident in a. In a restaurant in Winter Park, Florida. And they were offering us zip dang.
Amy
And then they have to pay 600 million.
John Morgan
Yeah, hopefully.
Amy
Where do they get that money?
John Morgan
Well, insurance. But look, here's the thing. They had opportunities. They had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. But in that particular case, they come in, they infuriate the jury because they were trying to put the blame on the man with the quadriplegia. What his fault. It was these stairs were like a black mountain in the highest mountain in America. And juries get angry when they come in and start blowing smoke. And so that's what happens.
Bobby Bones
So the book is out. Life is Luck, Lessons from a Paperboy and how to improve your luck. One selfish question that I'd like to ask is, do you still own the O.J. simpson Bronco?
John Morgan
Yes, I do. And what I would like to tell you is located down in one of my attractions called Alcatraz east in Pigeon Forge. And anytime you want to go with your staff, I want to take you down there on me. And then you go down the street to Wonderworks, and then you go back down the street to my restaurant called Downtown Flavortown. The Smoky Mountains is the. One of the most beautiful places in the world for vacation. And you and your crew have tickets free for life.
Amy
Oh, nice.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we got lifetime tickets.
Amy
Downtown Flavortown.
Bobby Bones
What did that Bronco cost? Did you buy, like, an auction, like a bid, like a chair, like a whatever?
John Morgan
I rented it for a while, and then they wanted to sell it to me, and I paid probably three times more than I should have. And I've been paying a lease for A long time. But to me, to me, that attraction does very well. I have all sorts of. I mean, you won't believe. I mean, I got Ted Bundy's vw, I got Murdoch's, I got Murdoch's. I got, I got Murdoch's golf cart. I got JonBenet's bicycle. I got, I got Bonnie and Clyde death car from the movie. I got Dillinger's sedan. I got John Gacy's clown suits you. You would not believe.
Amy
Does it feel a little weird?
John Morgan
Yes. But I'll tell you what else. I'll tell you what else is weird. Crime and Punishment. America's obsessed with it. You go to a movie, you watch a TV show, you go to Netflix. Crime and Punishment. Crime and Punishment. Crime and Punishment. So the paper boy started thinking, I went to Alcatraz one time, I go, you couldn't get in. You couldn't get into Alcatraz. Sold out for the week. You pull out $100 bill, you go in. But when I went in there, I was like, my God, America is obsessed with crime and punishment. So I built it. It looks, if you look at Alcatraz east, it looks like a prison. And it prints money. Because of America's fascination, weirdly or not, with crime and punishment, it prints money.
Amy
Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we watch all the documentaries and I mean, we feel weird watching it. And you're like, you feel weird liking it or sometimes we'll, we'll watch something and then we rate it and then it feels weird giving it a rating because it's like so tragic. But you're like, well, five out of five.
John Morgan
You're right. And how about this? Why are we. First of all, we make people. We got, I got a bunch of wild west, you know, people's guns and stuff. We love Billy the Kid, we love Jesse James, we love Bonnie and Clyde. They're murderers.
Bobby Bones
But.
John Morgan
But all of a sudden in America, we got them up. You know, it's Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway as Bonnie and Clyde and it's an obsession. We, we have a, we have an obsession with serial killers. Why? I don't know. Just because the fact that we have those monsters amongst us. I'll tell you a funny story. Not funny, but interesting. Before I went to law school, I sold yellow pages and I took a two month break. Before I went to law school, I went to every single day of the Ted Bundy trial where he was accused of killing this little girl named Kimberly Diane Leach. And at the end of the day, I used to Go across the street to this hotel bar called the Monkey Bar and have drinks with Ted Bundy's girlfriend. And he married her one day during the trial. And I was there for that. And I was there. I was there for the day he was sentenced to death. And you talk about. You mean this guy? I could study this guy forever and ever and ever because he's the type of guy. He's a law student. He's the type of guy that walks in your house dating your daughter, and you're like, this is a great thing for our family. This is Ted Bundy.
Eddie
Wow.
Amy
And then he ended up being a psychopath.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Serial killer.
John Morgan
They all are. Have you been watching that guy up in Long Island? I mean, the guy in Long island that, you know, that evidently killed them all in his house. But we are just fascinated as a country. Look, how many CSI spinoffs are there? I don't know. But when you look at the top TV shows and movies of all, you know what else I have. Do you ever see the movie when he says, say hello to my little friend, Alex. Al Pacino, Scarface. Scarface. I own my little friend. I bought. I bought that for $18,000. And that movie, you know, they. Hollywood makes these villains heroes. You know, we find ourselves pulling for Scarface. We found ourselves pulling for, you know, in narcos. I don't know if you all saw the narcos stuff on. On the Mexican cartels, but there is a fascination with it. And so what I decided to do was to give America what it wanted, which was an attraction. The only other one was Alcatraz itself.
Bobby Bones
Ever thought about buying that?
John Morgan
Well, Donald Trump says he's going to reopen it and make it a prison. Have you ever been to Alcatraz?
Amy
I have.
Bobby Bones
I've never been in. I've driven. I've been buying on the boat.
Amy
Yeah. It wasn't sold out when I went. And you get the headset. And then you. You listen and you hear about all the crazy stories.
John Morgan
Did you see the cell where the birdman of Alcatraz lived and Al Capone cell, and the guy who jumped off and supposedly made it back to shore? The waters are freezing. I don't think anybody can escape from Alcatraz, but there's one guy who disappeared and they never found his body.
Eddie
Wow.
Amy
Crazy. Do you. You said you bought that. The say hello to my little friend for 18,000, which I get. When you're buying something like that, you probably pay attention to the price tag. But, like, in just everyday life, do you do you even. I mean, do you even look at, like, if you're going shopping for clothes, or you're like, I like that shirt, or do you look at the price tag and you're like, oh, $80.
John Morgan
You know what? This is a funny thing. The other day, I was in my closet, and I thought to myself, I've got so many clothes. I might. And at my age, I might never buy another stitch of clothing. I look around like, I got all the shorts I need. I got all the T shirts. I live in Hawaii in the wintertime, and we just wear, you know, bathing suits and T shirts and flip flops. So I don't spend hardly any money on clothing because I don't need anymore. But I don't really look. I will say this. The other day, I was in a grocery store, and this woman comes up to me, says, my God, what are you doing here? I go, what are you talking about? She said, you're doing your own shopping. And I was like, yeah. But then I started looking around after that. You know, there's a lot of people who go to the grocery store, and they can only buy so much. They can only buy so much because they're counting their. Their shekels. I have a house in New Hampshire we go to in the summer. And one day I'm standing there, and this woman's looking at stakes, this shopping, this place called Marketplace, and she looks at me and she goes. And she throws her meat back down. And she goes, they're not giving it away, are they? And I thought to myself, how terrible. She threw her steak down because of money. And I gave her 100 bucks. And I said, I'm gonna give you 100 bucks if you promise me this. She goes, what? I said, Buy $100 worth of steaks. And she did. But it makes me sad that people go to the grocery store and have to not get certain things that they want because. And that's why just recently or last week, I built a new food bank in West Virginia. Both the United States senators showed up to it. There is food insecurity in this country like you'll never know. In Orlando, we have the Morgan Morgan Hunger Relief Center. And it tears me apart that people, you know, and this is the working poor that go to these food banks. It's not somebody that's just laying in a crack den. These are people who go from the grocery store to the food bank in the most wealthy country in the world.
Bobby Bones
Final question. Do you have a bunker?
John Morgan
The only bunker I have is when I Take my gummies at night and go to sleep. I feel like I'm in a bunker. I feel like. I feel like I'm flying over everything and I just kind of. I don't need a bunker because I'm flying.
Bobby Bones
So if like the asteroids come into Earth, you don't have like a bunker you fly to as a billionaire to hide out from everything?
John Morgan
No, but I'll tell you, I got friends who do. I got friends who spend a lot of money out in. But look, here's the way I look at bunkers. I don't know about you. If we're at that point in time with bunkers and if we're. We're at that level of Mad Max where Mel Gibson's on a motorcycle looking like a gladiator, they're gonna kick that damn bunker door open and come take me out.
Eddie
So
John Morgan
they're going, you know, how are you going to escape the Mad Max in your bumper?
Eddie
That's a good point.
Bobby Bones
All right, there he is, the great John Morgan from Morgan and Morgan. His new book, life is lessons from a paperboy and how to improve your luck. I hope you sell a billion of them. Thank you for the lifetime pass over in Pigeon Forge. We're there quite a bit and always love Talking to you, Mr. Morgan.
John Morgan
Call me John.
Bobby Bones
All right, John, see you later.
John Morgan
Bye.
Bobby Bones
That's it. We're going to Austin for iHeart Country Festival. Hope you guys watch on Disney plus and Hulu 7pm Central on Saturday night. It's gonna be a really great show. Thank you so much and we will see you guys on Monday. As long as we all get back alive.
Eddie
Oh, gosh, that sounds really.
Bobby Bones
You never know.
Eddie
You never know.
Bobby Bones
Do you know?
Eddie
No.
Bobby Bones
You never know.
Eddie
Never.
Bobby Bones
100%.
Amy
I mean, we hope so. Eddie's probably like, I'm fin.
Eddie
Yeah, I got at this point, like.
Bobby Bones
All right, bye, buddy.
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Episode: FRI PT 2: Amy’s Business Idea + Eddie Is At Happiness Low + Attorney John Morgan Of 'Morgan & Morgan' On Buying OJ's Bronco
Date: May 1, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones (Premiere Networks)
Guests: Amy, Eddie, John Morgan (Morgan & Morgan)
This episode artfully weaves together the team's classic banter, Amy’s mysterious new business idea, reflections on midlife happiness, and a far-ranging, lively interview with famed attorney John Morgan of Morgan & Morgan. Morgan provides insight into his philosophy of luck, tales of success and parenting, the reality of personal injury law, and a peek at his eclectic collection—including O.J. Simpson’s iconic Bronco. The episode strikes a balance between humor, real talk about life fulfillment, and genuinely fascinating stories from the world of law and entrepreneurship.
The episode retains Bobby Bones’ signature wit, warmth, and fast-paced radio style. Lively, candid and often humorous exchanges keep the listener engaged, balanced by moments of genuine insight—especially during the John Morgan interview, which offers a rare look at success, luck, and the American obsession with true crime.
For listeners, this episode features both the fun of behind-the-scenes show banter and a remarkably candid, story-filled interview with one of America’s best-known attorneys and entrepreneurs. Whether you're here for laughs or life lessons, this episode delivers.