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In The Weeds: John Stamos Backlash, Artist Accusations & BobbyCast Secrets
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Welcome to in the Weeds, and I want to start by saying we got to leave John Stamos alone. I I don't know what happened here where we can't have a fun conversation and people not take things the wrong way. But I also feel bad about what's happened over the past four or five days because it was never the intent to get clickbait headlines from an interview. It actually never is with me. The one thing that I don't do is chase the clickbait because I know if I'm clickbaiting people, that's Only going to last so long before people don't come on my show. So that happens, especially with artists in Nashville. I never clickbait, folks. I might build a good tease on top of a video, and then you watch the video and you go, dang. Okay, cool. But I'm never even gonna chase, like, anything salacious for the sake of it. If you don't know what I'm talking about. Let's rewind at John Stamos on the Bobbycast last week. It was last Tuesday's episode, and if you want to listen to it, go search the Bobbycast on the podcast. You might be listening to it because this goes up on that feed podcast wise. Or you can go to Netflix and watch it. But I thought it was pretty cool because I love John Stamos because I love and loved Full House. So originally I was going to go to Los Angeles to interview him in person. That was not able to work out. And as I've talked about before, I don't really like doing remote interviews. I'll do a few if I feel like the person is, like, so interesting for me that we can get through that little communication barrier. So I don't know how it's going to go. And we get John Stamos on and he comes on and immediately we're kind of feeling each other out, and we're both pretty, like, dry, a bit sarcastic sense of humors, but we really hit our stride about halfway through the interview. He's trying to figure out where he knows me from, and the answer is nowhere until we're talking about Dancing with the Stars, because from Fuller House. And he had brought up Fuller House and how he was a producer on the show, and he had brought up how he was also on that show that was the Netflix version of Full House, like the sequel, or just an older version of them. And I said, oh, speaking of that, on my season of Dancing with the Stars was Juan Pablo. And he's like, that's where I know you from. And it's pretty funny. He started calling me a jackass. And again, it was all in fun. We might have talked about Dancing with the Stars for four minutes total because he's never done the show. I like talking about the show if it's someone who's done it, but he's never done the show. And I asked him, hey, would you ever do it? And he had a funny remark. He was like, no, because people that do that show, people like to watch them fall down, not be good at it, get hurt. He was obviously Kidding. Because the whole interview was us just kind of busting each other's balls. But on top of that, he wasn't completely wrong either. Like, why do you think people watch that show? It's not to watch really good dancers that are already famous dance with a pro dancer. You do have some of those. But people like to watch the bad dancers. People like to watch the dancers that maybe aren't as good get better. That's a part of that show. So on two parts, like justice for John Stamos. One, he was making a joke a. Com. And when I saw Page Six pick it up and I saw E. News pick it up, and I saw. I think that's all the channels. I think I saw a couple other channels, too. These influencer Instagram accounts to talk about reality shows. Podcasts were just going hard on John Stamos, saying, oh, you think you're so good for Dancing with the Stars? They didn't watch the show. So they're formulating these opinions off of basically one headline. The headline maker didn't watch the show. And everybody who's reading that just read the article from the person who didn't watch the show, and they didn't watch the show, and now they're going hard on John Stamos. And I felt guilty because all the guy did was agree to come on my show and be a great interview guest. It was a wonderful interview, especially considering we weren't in the same room. And I don't like doing remote interviews because a lot of those don't go well. They're not bad, but they're very mid a lot of times because of that communication barrier. So I did. I felt guilty. And he texted me and he was. He said, hey, this is way after the fact. He was like, boy, we got a little press on that Dancing with the Stars clip, huh? And I said, yeah, I'm sorry about that. And what's frustrating is that nobody watched it and everybody had a comment on it and that all the comments were negative. Honestly, if the comments would have been positive and not everyone would have watched it, that have been great. But you know how that goes. Positive comments don't create engagement. Only negative ones do. And I even was irritated at people from the Dancing with the Stars cast for going after John Stamos because they didn't watch it. You don't have to watch it, but if you're not going to watch it, don't comment on it. Like I wrote on my Instagram, it's like watching the trailer for a movie. Then Giving a movie review. You didn't even watch it. And I saw Sharna, and. And I don't think it was coming from any place other than she was just defending the show, but you could tell she didn't watch it because she was going hard on John Stamo, saying, I'm not gonna let you insult. And. And she was saying nice things about me, but she didn't watch it. And so I'm in this weird place where I think Deshauna was a little bit out of turn with what she was saying, because he was kidding. And then Alfonso Ribeiro comments on something. It's like, if you don't want to be on our show, we don't want him. So it really turned into something that it shouldn't have, that I felt guilty about. And I just wanted to say, leave John Stamos alone. And for the most part, I think hopefully we're beyond that now. It would be funny now if he did Dancing with the Stars. It would even be funnier if all this was just publicity to get him on Dancing with the Stars. Like, I'm not so dumb to not have planned all of this. Like, what a great thing to have him say something like that. We send it to a PR team, get somebody to print it. Everybody starts running with it. Next thing you know, boom, John Stamos is on, and it's this huge press. But it wasn't that. Or was it? Am I just saying that now to counter. No, if he does the show, that'll just be because he was so overwhelmed by the negative press. So John Stamos Uncle Jesse was treated unfairly. Leave him alone. And I had a little guilt about that because it came on my show. And it also keeps guests from being, like, free in interviews, because the worst is when you get someone and they have to constantly second guess everything they're saying because they know that any little part of it might be a headline. Go watch it. Go listen to it. You'll see for yourself. It was a fantastic, fantastic episode. I was asked by a couple listeners if there were things that I don't or refuse to say when it comes to the show or commercials. And I was thinking about this this morning because this was in a commercial that I was supposed to read, and I didn't say it, but I was doing a commercial, and one of the lines was, hey, trust me. You can trust da da da, da, da da. One thing that I will not say in a commercial at any point ever is trust me, because nothing sounds more like a used car salesman. Than going, trust me. I want you to trust me because you literally do. Because we've spent enough time together, you listening to podcast show, watching these videos, consuming whatever content that you trust me based on I've said things that turned out to be accurate, or I've said things that I truly believed, accurate or not. But, you know, I actually believed them. So one of them is, trust me, I will not say that in a commercial. Number two is tell him Bobby sent you. It's the worst. And this is such a 1980s commercial technique. And I don't always think it's the business's fault. Sometimes I think it's the copyright writer's fault or the sales team's fault, because I will. They're called spots. We call them spots. I'll get these spots in, and it's for a brand that I'm very comfortable with that either I use or someone close to me uses, because I won't really take them otherwise. And it'll say, da, da, da, da, and tell him Bobby sent you. I say it now. I used to say it. But what it is now is basically a promo code. Because, you know, if you get something on Instagram or if you hear a podcast, say promo code, Bobby, what that's going to do is it's going to track to see if people heard you say it. Use the promo code. It's not even that you're really going to get a deal. You might sometimes. Sometimes there are literal deals, sometimes not. It's just a tracker to see what podcasts are sending the most people to this place. And this is the early version of that. But I've never been to a single business where I've told the person at the business so and so sent me, unless it's like my cousin working there or something. So I realized a long time ago that if I said, hey, go to McDonald's, but tell him Bobby sent you, you might go to McDonald's, because I gave a pretty compelling argument as to why McDonald's is really good. But even if you go because I told you it's going to feel stupid if you go, hey, Bobby sent me. Because they're going to go, huh? Who's Bobby? Why do you. Okay, so I don't say that anymore, but I think that was in the 80s, a way to track who was successfully doing a good enough job at commercials to send people places. But they still write them today, and it blows my mind. And I will remove them, and then I will get a note going, hey, you forgot to say, hey, Tell him Bobby sent you. And then I will say, I did not forget to say, tell them Bobby sent you. I will not say, tell them Bobby sent you. Because even if they did go because of my recommendation, they're not going to say that. And when they don't say that, people are going to hold that against me because there aren't people coming in going, tell them Bobby sent you. So those are really the only two things that I don't say during commercials. As a general rule, I was looking at the guests for the Bobby cast over January up until this point. And as I record this, we're in the middle of July, and people are always interested in, like, who are the biggest guests. And I did make a comment a few weeks ago that I don't necessarily need guests. I like to have great guests because I think we both benefit from each other. Guests will come in with something to promote some great stories to tell. Maybe they get a few Instagram followers because of it. And I also am able to have a great guest on and give you guys my audience really compelling content, but I don't need guests. There was a time in the radio show where I was asked, hey, why are you not putting anybody on? And my answer was, I think if we're just doing our show, people are more entertained by that than they are with specific guests that were trying to come on the show. But that's not always the case. But I do have the top 10 guests on the Bobby cast. And the reason I bring this up is, is that the number one and number two best performing podcasts of the entire year on the Bobbycast are. It's. It's me and my wife just talking. It's me and my wife talking about before she got. No, I guess she was pregnant, but before she had our baby, and then the one after the baby. And they by far dwarf any of the celebrity episodes. Now there. There's some great celebrity episodes that I'm going to share with you here, and I don't want to take anything away from them, but three of the next top seven are just me talking by myself. Now, I'm not going to put those in this top 10 list because I'm going to do celebrities. But when people were busting my balls saying, now you need guests, I. I don't need guests. I like to have really great guests because they're fun. If they're. They're awesome. It's. It's super fun because then I just don't have to talk all the time. But here we go. Top 10. Number one this year has been Kane Brown. He got the gold medal. A plus episode. All these are up if you want to go check them out. Number two was Ashley McBride. One where she was so open and honest about her sobriety and her journey to it. And I really like Ashley as a person and, and I thought that episode really did well. And that one has continued to do well, like, consistently over time. What happens a lot of times, too is these episodes on a podcast feed. They get so far up the feed that people don't really see them anymore because we're not gonna go searching, you know, pulling the old search bar back, the old toggle bar. But people keep finding the Ashley McBride episode. It's really great. Number three is Tom Bergeron. Speaking of Dancing with the Stars from earlier, that was fun because it was the first time that Tom and I had talked since we had our little immature spat where I was equally at fault as he was. And it was the first time that we had spoken since that. And I wanted that to be on camera. I didn't want us to prepare anything and, you know, talk with each other before, like the first time that we saw each other after our little hate to say fight, because this is all wrestling to me, like none of this really matters was whenever the cameras came on. I love that guy. Luke Combs at 4. And number five, Morgan Evans. He came in, talked about his past relationship, his life. A lot of that was him kind of pouring it all out there. Something that's very interesting is that I keep two phones. Not because I'm cool and need them both, but because my old number is a number that I still have connected to certain accounts that sometimes they have to send me that four digit code. And so I don't want to get rid of that number. And I'm sure there's an easier way than just keeping a second phone line. So sometimes it's like, you, we're going to send you this verification code. And I'm like, oh, man, it's my old number. So go back to it. And I find and I type it in. And after that Morgan Evans interview, probably about a month after, I got a text message from you know who that was not very happy with that Morgan Evans interview. It wasn't a month after. I think it was like the day after it came out, but I don't see it because it was a month afterward. I don't ever check that phone unless I have a reason to. But it was a pretty long one. And it started with, hey, I know you're going to screenshot this and post it. But what am I going to screenshot and post a text message? I don't give a crap. Also, I didn't do anything wrong. He didn't do anything wrong. Like, we get to tell. And by we, all of us get to tell our versions of our stories if someone asks us. So, yeah, fun fact, I got a full one of those really long ones where you see and you go, oh, my God, I got to read all this. And I did. From you know who. And to also think I was going to screenshot a text message. I don't do that. I've never done that. I've never screenshotted a DM someone sent me that was supposed to be private. I've never screenshot a text message. That is not my style in any way. Am I really great at getting press when I need it? Absolutely. A plus. But it's never at the cost of anyone else. Of anyone else's privacy, of anyone else's. Hey, please don't share this. But I think I never responded because I didn't see it for a month or so later. And that wasn't on purpose because had it been to my phone that day, I probably would have responded and said, oh, man, I'm sorry you felt that way. But I do feel like he gets to tell his part of the story and he's also a friend. Like, both of those things matter to me. So, yeah, that's kind of a crazy one. Top five, though, of the year. Morgan Evans, Mariana Van Zeller, who had a ton of great stories about the cartel spending time with the cartel, hackers, black market. Kenny Chesney at seven, Heather McMahon, the comedian at eight, Megan Maroney at nine, and Dr. Unger, the plastic surgeon in the top 10, which was really cool. So country still the king here. As far as guests, six out of the top ten are country artists. Tom Bergeron, huge numbers considering he's a non musician. Mariana just also proves that compelling storytellers and journalists, they're good. If they're good at talking about it, man, people are gonna love their stories. And, you know, the episodes with Caitlin or even the in the Weeds episodes do tremendously well. And it's just me here yapping away. Sometimes I finish and I'm not even sure what I was saying the whole time. So that's the ranking of the biggest guests. I get a lot of questions about either me getting sued or me suing anyone, and I can answer both of those.
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And.
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Bobby Bones
And you guys can put Your comments and your questions down in the comments section. And if there are questions, I try to look through them and go back and answer as many as I can. That's where I get a lot of information for this, because I want to answer the questions that you guys want to know. And so, yeah, I get a decent amount of questions asking about either me suing or getting sued. I've only ever been sued once. And I can tell you that story. This is probably 25 or so years ago, and I got on the air, I was in Austin, and I said, hey, I'm going to do this April Fool's bit. And just so you guys know that's listening, I'm going to do the bit. You're going to be in on the joke, and we'll see what happens. And so I play a song and I come back and I say, hey, it looks like we've got Justin Timberlake's, like, choreographer here. And so we had a listener on, and the listener was like, yeah, been working for Justin Timberlake. I'm looking for some dancers. Any background dancers that want to come, have them come up to your studio. I didn't know they were going to say that part, but whatever. And I'm like, okay. So then people just started lining up at the studio, and so they're up there and I'm talking to them on the air. I'm like, you guys want to be in the Justin Timberlake? Yeah. And I'm like, april Fool's. Whatever. Stupid bit. Long time ago. So somebody sued me for that. Me and my program director at the time named Jay. Except what happened was we got served as Bobby Bones and Jay Shannon. And that's neither of our real names, so that was an issue. Secondly, there, it was thrown out almost immediately. We, quote, settled for concert tickets that we had in the station. So we gave them concert tickets, and they were like, okay, we're all good. That's really been the only time. I don't want to jinx it, but have I been threatened? Yeah, about once every three months, somebody threatens to sue. I think a lot of times when someone is threatened, they're going to be sued. They start acting differently because they don't want to have that financial burden of even if they're right, they don't want to go through the process. If I'm right and I get sued, I'm going to get so much press out of it, because I'm fine. I have enough money. Let's have a lawsuit. And you're going to end up Paying all my legal fees back once I win. And I'm going to milk it so hard that udder will be shooting out blood by the time it's over. So that's it on that part. That's the only time that I've ever been sued and it wasn't, I guess I have never been sued. Bobby Bones, the personality was, attempted to be sued. And in the end we went to the prize closet and said, here's some mid concert tickets. And that was it. Have I ever sued anybody? No. I'm not a litigious person at all. I prepared to sue someone in the past six to nine months or so. So what happened was I get a call from a friend says, hey, there's this artist. And I won't say, I don't want to give too many details, like specific details. So say there's this artist on a certain program saying these things about you. And I don't think they're true, but I'm just asking because it's happening right now live. And it was happening live, but it was being recorded for a different time. And I was like, no, that's not true at all. And the person said, okay. Just so you should know, though, this is all being said. I was like, are you serious? So I finished my show, called the person back. I say, tell me again what was said. And what was said was this artist knew artist was claiming that they weren't successful in the music industry because I wouldn't play their music and I wouldn't meet them and do a music meeting with them. And that my position would meet with new artists, do music meetings, and then pick the music that would be played. And because of that, they weren't allowed to have a successful career because I had been shutting them out. Now, there's a little more to that, but any more details are going to probably shine a light on who it is. Now, why that is just wholly inaccurate is I am in no way a music director. I've never had a single meeting with an artist to talk about adding songs. You know why? Because I don't add songs. I do nothing with music. In my contract, I have one hour a weekend that I have dedicated to play female artists on a national show. Now, in that, I don't even program that whole show. And so in that I pick two songs a week because the rest is programmed by research and are ahead of the format. So the only thing musically that I've ever done is negotiate a one hour nationally. Other than that, I don't meet with Artists. I've never rejected an artist to have a meeting about new music because I don't meet about new music. So I universally don't even get asked because I would never agree to that. So I think they were just looking for, like, the biggest name to yell at that they could go, look, I'm being victimized by this name, which was crazy. So I called my people. I said, if this hits and it plays at all publicly, I'm gonna sue the crap out of them. Because that is just wildly false. In no way is it my job. In no way is it something I have ever done. There was a whole talk about, yeah, you take barbecue up to the station, he sits with you and listens to your music, and never once has anything like that happen. Does it happen with music directors around the country? I'm sure it does. I have never. It's never been about music for me. Do I enjoy country music? Yes. Do I program it? In no way whatsoever. Can I take a song and just play it because I like it? Occasionally, yeah. But I never wanted to be in charge of the music because I never wanted to play that game. There was a time in my early days where I'd find songs I liked and go, this song's awesome. And then it would pop, and then I would leave it alone. And I had some real success stories with songs that blew up because way early on, it said this one song. But I don't have the ability to add songs to anything ever, other than my show. And I don't want people always coming to me to play music. So I left a lot of details out, but that's the closest I've ever been to suing someone, because what I felt was happening was they just needed a bad guy, and I was unlucky enough to be the person they picked that day. And they went on this national platform and were like, bobby Bones. Wouldn't meet with me about my new music. I never met with a single person about music ever. Nor will I. I'm not a music director. Don't want to be in the music game. I do content. That's it. But had it hit, had it aired, I would have sued just to set the precedent of. You can't go and just lie
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Bobby Bones
also piss me off. So I've been both. You can't just go and lie about stuff openly. So that's the closest I've ever been to suing anyone. I want to read some questions. This is from dz. I don't know. I think this. Maybe it's a bot account, but they're asking specific things. But their name is DZBDZB16. Yeah. Why would you even have that name? But I don't know. I'm curious why Bobby hires the women he does for the show. He definitely seems to have a type in regards to work. While they each are amazing, strong women, he seems to prefer they are airheaded and wishy washy. Caitlin seems to be very smart, a witty person. So it's not a general life preference. Does he design it this way so he can not challenge himself? I think the show would be much better if he hired very intelligent, quick witted women. What I would imagine here is this person thinks they're a very intelligent, quick witted woman and they are not. That's what I would imagine here. This is someone who's upset that they're not able to do something. Amy's very smart. I don't know what you want from me. No. I hire people that I think are interesting, compelling, funny. And don't tell me that Amy's not all that. So what I think is this is not even a shot at the women on the show. I think this is you upset at your life. I saw Kaitlyn Bristow doing something kind of funny on her Instagram the other day. I think she had posted a video of her in a swimsuit. And then she came back and she said, hey, here are some comments from people that made posts about me when I posted this video in a swimsuit. And it's people posting really mean things about her. And then she wouldn't track down their faces and put it up next to the comment. And it was all the same type of person. They were all women. Probably like DZBDZB16 because I'm assuming this person here that sent me this is someone that thinks they are far more intelligent and witty than they actually are. So they send comments like this. So yeah, there you go.
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And we're back on the Bobby cast from Cheryl Kaiser, 1733. I'd like to know how all the cast of the radio show came together. I watch you all and I think, what a fun group. But how do they all meet? Okay, I'll start with Amy. And I wrote about this in my book called Bare Bones. If you want to hear the. Or read the. Listen to the audiobook or you can read the book, the longer version of it. I met Amy at a Culver's in Austin, in North Austin. I was getting my tires rotated and I walked over to a Culver's and Amy was there with her friend Andrea, who I still know. And I met her there. And then I was looking for a co host and I did this open casting at the mall and Amy was at the mall and I'd already met her at Culver's and so I was like, hey, why don't you do this? And she jumped in and she was great. That's how I met Amy was at a Culver's Lunchbox. I met him at a bar in Austin and for the first couple of years, Lunchbox didn't have a microphone and he wasn't really in the studio that much. He was only out on the phone calling in, doing certain segments. And not only that, I think at the very beginning he was only in three days a week, like a Monday, Wednesday, Friday type thing, because I think he was still working at Jason's Deli in San Antonio and would drive up because it was a part time job. We didn't have any money as a show, but I met him at a bar. I remember the segment where I thought, okay, there's something odd but really attractive about this guy as far as being on the air is we had a women's, I think it was a rugby team up in studio. And he arm wrestled one of the women and lost terribly and still talked so much garbage. And I thought, that guy's funny. Like he has no idea, but that's what makes it funny. So that's those two. Eddie was my television producer in Austin. So Eddie did not start by doing anything in radio. He was a television producer at Emmy Television, which was a music channel that we did. It was television. It was kind of regional in the Central Texas area and played a lot of music videos. And so I got a job there, and Eddie was the producer of that music television show that played videos, and we talked about songs. And so it was just a random, okay, this is your producer, Eddie, and here's the guy hosting the show, Bobby. And we did that show together, and then we did kind of a late night show. I might have shared this here. I think I have. One of the segments that kind of got our late night show canceled was, you know, they have Chris Hansen to Catch Predator. We were doing costumes from the costume store, and they were dressed as, like, characters, like the Lucky Charms guy, the, I think Tigger, Captain Crunch. And they would show up to the door, and I had, like, a camera above the door, and they were like. And we'd act like that character was coming in, and then Chris Hansen would come out and be like, oh, Captain Crunch, what are you doing here?
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So it was To Catch a Predator spoof, but with big kid. So the show was canceled. But we did that for years. And he would not be on the radio show in Austin, but we hung out all the time. He became a best friend in Austin. And when I was moving here, I said, hey, you should come to Nashville with us. Because he was a television producer. He worked at News 8. He worked at that television station. That's what he did, was TV producer, cameraman, all that. And I'm sorry, photographer. Want to talk down? And he said, what will my job be? I said, you can run all the cameras for us. Run all. Because we're investing heavily in the digital space. We're going to put cameras on every wall. And I knew he wouldn't take the job because he had not taken the job. The multitude of times I asked him to come and do that job in Austin. And he also lived in Austin at the time, so there's no way he's going to move to Nashville. And he's like, all right, I'm in. I was like, what?
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And so the first job Eddie ever had with me in this world, radio podcasting, was him moving to Nashville. So that's how Eddie and I met. Mike D Was an intern for me in Austin. He just messaged me on social media and said, hey, how do I
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a job doing something like that? I said, well, why don't you intern? Come on up here. And so he did, and he came up and he interned forever. And from that, he turned into a board op. When we moved from Austin to Nashville, he stayed back because he had a job running, maybe different, maybe. Maybe a Morning show. He was doing, like, weekend board hopping. And I said, once we get over there and get settled, I will bring you. And about a year later, I said, hey, dude, it's time to move. And so he did packed up his crap, moved to Beverly, and I think he moved in with me for a while because it was, hey, I know right now you don't have anywhere to stay before you rent a place. Why don't you come to Nashville for a year or so, do the job. You can find a place while you live here, because it's so much easier to find a part of town you like when you get to live there for a bit. But, yeah, Mike D. Did that. Raymundo was an intern for the Austin show, and we met because I was filling in on AM 1300, the zone, the sports station, and I didn't have a producer. He was actually interning at the sports station. And they said, ray is gonna be your producer on the sports show. And I said, that's great. And so we worked together there. And I said, hey, why don't you come actually be an intern on my show, because I think you can actually do more. And he said, great. And so he was that. And he was an intern the whole time. When we left, he was back. And I remember I had a meeting with him when we were leaving Texas to move to Tennessee, and I said, hey, man, I think I have your first job, like, paying job. He was like, really? I said, yeah. Are you willing to move for this job, though? Because in this business, a lot of times you just have to move. He's like, yeah, it doesn't matter where it is. He had no idea it was me or that we were leaving yet. And I said, it's in Tennessee. Like, does that seem too far? And he was like, nope, I want to do this. This business, so whatever the job is, let me know and I'll go. I said, okay, it's in Nashville. And he said, okay, what other details can you give me? I said, we're moving to Nashville. I want you to come and be one of the main producers. And he's like, no way. So that was Raymundo moving with us and doing that job. So, yeah, I'm sure I'm forgetting people, but that's mostly how we all came together in that way. I'm sure there are other stories there. Scuba Steve was just. He used to work for Ryan Seacrest, and that was the time when I had way too much on my plate. I was traveling a lot. I was not just traveling and touring. But I had, I was doing a lot of television in California and I needed somebody to delegate to because that was the hardest part of my job was actually delegating and trusting people. And so Scuba Steve came over and took that job as executive producer and has been here forever and has been awesome at it.
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Bobby Bones
But that was a complete setup. Meaning. Well, I guess we interviewed people, but he was the guy. And you just would not think Scuba Steve would be as nice or as warm as he is just because he kind of looks like a devil worshiper. Meaning he's got a bald head and he wears shirts with like, I don't know, pointy things on it and he's got a big beard. And so you're thinking, man, this guy must like Stab Cats or something. Really, the loveliest guy, Great leader. So that's that. From Nora Dunn 7012. When you decide to write a book or pursue another avenue, how do you rebalance your plate or what can you comfortably step back from for a moment to put more effort somewhere else? Mostly I just have to recalibrate myself about every six months and decide what is the most important. I only have so much energy, especially now that I have a baby. So there are certain things that I do as hard and as much as I possibly can. Like I don't travel as much to do as many one off television shows as I used to. Like I was mercenary for hire for a long time and I'd get calls and I go do this show, go do that show one show at a time, two episodes of this. I, I don't do that as much because it really breaks up what we're doing here. Especially when the Netflix deal was signed, especially with, you know, the Bobby cast. The Bob show is still by far the most important thing. I haven't written a book in a long time because I don't have capacity for it. And I feel like if I don't have capacity for it and I don't feel good about the effort and energy I'm putting into it, it's not going to be good. And I don't want to put something out that's not good. You know, something else that I really haven't shared is that so with 25 whistles, our sports show, like that was never supposed to be a show. I didn't really have interest in doing a sports show at all. And DraftKings came along and said, hey, we want you to come and do a show for us five days a week. And they offer me a lot of Money, seven figures. And I said, I don't have the capacity to do that because it will not be good and I don't want to do it. And you guys be disappointed and me not be able to give you the numbers that you're paying for. So I said no to it. And they said, all right. And I didn't hear from them for about a month or so. And they came back and they said, what can you do? And I said, I can do an episode a week, one episode a week podcast. And obviously the money was gonna be way less if it was just one episode a week. And so we ended up settling on two episodes a week. And DraftKings is a major part of that show for about eight months out of the year. Because during the summer, like now, like, what are you betting on? There's really nothing because football's not happening, college basketball's not happening, you're not really betting on baseball. So for those eight months or so, they're a massive sponsor. For the other four months, they're not. So during this four months, and who knows if they come back on it because they've been a great partner for the past few years. But for this four month span, I've been doing one episode and then I do the first 15 or 20 minutes of that second episode and I let Eddie and Kevin and Mike do it without me so they can develop their skills at doing a show without me having to host the whole thing. Also, because I know I am extremely pressed right now for time and not even in a bragging way and not in a whining way. It's just I keep everything on a schedule and that second show was really biting me in the butt. But I wanted to set them up for success and give them an avenue to get better at what they're doing. And also for people to hear the first 15 minutes and not turn it off because it wasn't me hosting it. So there are times where I do have to reprioritize. I've mentioned before that it was offered a pretty big book deal recently and I just did not take it because I did not feel that I had it in me to create something that I felt passionate about and that I could do a good job with. So if I do decide to write another book, I'll have to remove something at this point because all my hours are eaten up and I don't want to do bad work. I'd rather do no work than bad work. So it's never comfortable, though, because your question was, how do you comfortably step back. It's never comfortable because I also feel like I'm letting people down when I do step back from certain things. Meaning if I just peeled off of a full episode of 25 whistles, let's say we just didn't do that episode, well, that's money that the guys aren't getting paid. So if I go, hey, we're just doing one a week, that's 50% of what we're not doing, we're not getting paid for anymore because there's no commercial, so there's no pay for anybody. So those are difficult decisions. Whenever what I'm doing and not doing happens to affect other people, hang tight. The Bobbycast will be right back.
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And we're back on the Bobbycast. I got two more here. I love these. Definitely there till the end. This is from Cindy Trout. 6641. What's Eddie's title or job? I didn't hear you mention him in the producer segment you did on a past episode. We'd also be interested to know how you guys met and how long. Okay, so we did that part already. So I can tell you. Eddie's job is he is head. Head of video. So he. It's actually quite a skill. He has a switcher in his hand because he's also a co host on the show. And that just kind of happened organically because he was always there with a microphone. But Amy had to leave for a month here, a couple months there because her dad died, her mom was sick. She was. Had some personal things. And the number one rule of our show is if you ain't good for you, you ain't gonna be good for me. So you go take care of yourself. So there will be times Where I would say, amy, you just got to go away for a couple months and you're good. I promise you, you're good. You'll come back and you just fall back into your spot and we just keep rolling. And so I could trust Eddie when talking to really just set me up and be funny with me because he has a very quick wit. Eddie's not going to be a guy that is so outrageous. He makes you laugh, but I don't think there's anybody on that show that's funnier than Eddie. But he's not looking for the attention, so he made me better. And that's why we're in a comedy group together, too, though, honestly, because he's that funny. And also our styles together allow me to be funnier. So. But his job is he's head video producer, runs all the cameras in the studio. And as we're talking and everybody's talking, he's pushing little buttons to go to every single camera while he's also talking as well. So, final one from Ann Carter, 8131. Can you explain the evolution of playing live music on the podcast or any music at all? Some of my favorite performances were when you used to be allowed to air live music or any music at all. I miss those days and don't understand why and what happened for it to change. Thank you. Love all your content. So a few years ago we were told you can't put anything on the podcast that would possibly be on demand for the artist that would cost them money for being on your podcast. Terrible way to say that. But we would play games with music. Name that tune games. We'd play a bunch of music. I love music. So we play a lot of music games. We had to pull all those from the podcast because if we played any part of any song and anybody could go to that song and listen to it for free, when to hear it anywhere else, they had to pay for it. We were giving them a free avenue to hear that artist's music, which is not cool. It's not cool to give everybody something free that you have to pay for to get from the artist. The artist is creating it. So same thing with live music. So we had to cut all live music. Any. Any licensed anything. Music wise, we have to cut. So if you have to find Weezer the Sweater song, let's say they played it on our show and you really wanted to hear it. Well, you either have to have a streaming service or buy it or go to YouTube to listen to it, and that's either you paying money or you giving time and like watching a commercial on YouTube to hear that song. Or you can just go to our podcast and get it for free. Just you can't do that. We were giving people for free what they had to pay for everywhere else and that wasn't fair to the artist. Now there was a it's very difficult for us because we had to change how we did everything. But yeah, we can't put any music on the podcast anymore. So we can put it on YouTube and we do. If someone performs in studio, that's where it goes. YouTube because they have a different licensing agreement. And also if we put it on our YouTube channel, the artist gets to monetize that music for themselves on our page. So Ashley McBride comes on and she plays the song. We're not going to get the money for her playing that song on our YouTube. She's going to get to monetize that on our page. We might get followers from it. People that are subscribers might be fulfilled by watching that on our Bobby Bon Show YouTube page. But we can't put anything up that you have to pay for to get in another way. Could have explained that terribly. Might have done a better job if I'd have practiced ahead of time. But I don't practice ahead of time. So that's what's up. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for watching. I encourage everybody to do two things. One, be nice to John Stamos. He did not deserve that. And two, stay weedy. Okay, until next time everybody. Thanks for listening to the Bobbycast. Share this episode with a friend because they don't pay to advertise us.
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