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We're glad you're here and we hope you stay?
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Cause we got lots to say. Yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and Matt. Hey, everybody, welcome. That's Matt Castle. I' Bobby Bones. Kickoff. Kevin, Brandon Ray. I watched a really good movie and I've watched a lot of movies recently.
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I was gonna say you have watched
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a lot of movies, and I normally watch maybe one a year, but I watched this movie on Netflix called Rebel Ridge. Anybody seen it?
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No.
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Oh, man. Out of nowhere, really?
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What made you pick? Did you hear it?
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It tells me all the movies to watch.
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Oh.
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So I plugged in all the movies that I liked to begin with, which aren't a lot. And then on my vacation a month or so ago, I started, I watched two or three movies and I said, this is my rating, Give me more. And so now I just continue to feed it information on what I like and what I rated each movie. And it said, I think you like Rebel Ridge. It's about this dude who served the military and cops in the small town kind of hassle them. That's all I'm gonna say.
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It's basically a new aged Rambo. Yeah, I mean, the interesting. The plot that you just Laid out was basically.
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I just said, there's basically Rambo.
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Oh, a veteran who came home and these cops are hassling.
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He's not really home, though.
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I know he's probably in the wilderness or something. And then he goes off and they stalk him and then he's got to turn. Turn on the jets.
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Let's just say there's a talking dog in a time machine.
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Okay. That's different.
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No, I'm just kidding.
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Was it Wayne's World?
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It. It's awesome. I only have a few movies in my life. They're a five star. This is a four and a half star. And I just didn't expect it to be that good.
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At one point. At one point in the movie, does he paint his face?
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He does not.
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He's not in full camo.
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It's not that. So I don't want to say. But if you a good boom, boom, shoot him up. That I think maybe even your wives would like. Watch it. It's fantastic. Rebel Ridge. Okay, we'll start with that review. What uniform do you think you look the best in? Oh, like you would see yourself and go, this is the one.
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Yeah. Where I had to take an extra tape.
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You're like, this is the one I like.
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Yeah. What angle do you like, Patriots or Dallas?
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Patriots. Dark or light?
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Dark.
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Yeah.
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Maybe navy blue.
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The Dallas is cool, though, because it's legendary.
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It's legendary. And that's part of what. But it's also very clean, like the navy blue with the gray pants star on the helmet. And that's pretty legendary. But Patriots are right up there, I think. How about. What do you think I'd look best in? Do you like me in red?
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I did. Yeah. But I'm a red guy.
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Yeah. I did love the Chiefs throwbacks. They used to have the Texas logo on the side. Those throwback. I love all throwback uniforms, by the way. Anybody that has a throwback. The throwback weeks are one of my favorite weeks. Now, there might be some ugly ones. Like Pittsburgh's not the most appealing.
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I don't like when Pittsburgh only has one side of the helmet with the logo.
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Yeah, that's weird. I think that's one of their throwbacks, but this year it was. Didn't. Was a Green Bay that did the brown.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That was crazy. They tried to make it look like a leather helmet or something.
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Yes. And then they. Their pants were brown, but. Except it looked like they were. It was their skin.
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Right.
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It looked like they were just running around naked from the waist down.
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And it was a terrible day from what I remember. Like, it was raining, all that stuff. It just looked sloppy.
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I like the Browns elf. Brownie the Elf. They would put in the middle of the field. Do you ever see Brownie? No. And I don't know if they do it anymore, but last year they did. And I don't know if they had a bad relationship with Brownie. Maybe they just lost all the games. Brownie. But they lost all the games anyway. But Brownie the elf was awesome. And I think back in the day. Maybe you can give me more information about Brownie, Kevin.
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Yeah, give us more information.
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But I think he was like their master up there, too. Oh, yeah, huh? Brownie the Elf. The new midfield logo explained. Yeah, yeah.
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What was the explanation?
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1946. So there's a date beside it. So it is from.
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Why an elf?
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Why anything? Why is it?
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I mean, that's just such a random. It's an elf in the middle of a football field. I mean, a little guy got the elf ears, though. He has got a good stiff arm. He's holding that ball wrong, though. He's not even six points of contact.
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Okay.
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No six points of contact, Bobby. So when you hold that ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thanks. What do you see about Brownie? I see a Celtic mythology, a Brownie is type of household fairy. They're known for rascally behavior, but they reward households that treat them with respect by quietly completing chores and tasks they didn't want to go at. The Cleveland household fairies.
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Seriously?
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But how? Brownie Brown, their owner, original owner Paul Brown, was a fan of this and
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he adopted the mascot.
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I like it. It's funny. It looks like I would say bizarro world Keebler elf, like angry. Instead of making cookies, he's like stabbing. Folks. That's what Brownie the elf looks like. But anyway, I liked it when they did that. Throwback on the field symbolizes hard work and mischievous energy.
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Oh, well, there you go.
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I don't know many people that. That both work hard and have mischievous energy. Mostly those are one or the other.
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Yeah. They kind of work against each other, wouldn't you say?
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All right, here's what we're going to do. This is called by the numbers.
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Okay?
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So we're going to 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, number 5. Give me five people that you've met in your career who completely lived up to the hype. Five of them, and then I'll go. Go.
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Okay. David Wells.
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David Wells, the ball player?
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The baseball player?
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The pitcher.
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Yeah.
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You mean because he was cool.
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Yeah. Just a dude. Okay. Like in all the antics that he had on the field that you hear about and pitching the no hitter drunk, it made sense. Like he lived up to. He lived up to my expectation. Gronk lived up to my expectation when I saw him at the derby, for sure. Are you on the field, you're saying?
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Yeah, it could be anywhere.
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Paid Manning, for sure. I mean, Tom Brady would be an obvious one that he lived up to the expectation. Let's see one more. You know, Anthony Munoz went above and beyond my expectation because I've. He went to USC, all these things. I haven't seen him for 15 years and was at a function for the NFL and I went up to introduce myself and I said, hi, Anthony. I went to shake his hand to say my name and he goes, hey, Matt, how are you? Fifteen years after the fact. So just somebody that remembers people's names and hall of Famer, everybody like that. That's five. I mean, I probably have better people.
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I mean, well, when you get home and you're angry about it, you should have said this. I'm going to go. Bear Grylls. I did his show twice and it got pretty hairy out there and it was pretty scary. But he's amazing. Like such a nice, warm guy and also very prepared and has the skill set obviously to. For me to trust taking a rope off the side of a mountain or jumping out of a helicopter, any of that stuff. Yeah. So I'm gonna go Bear Grylls. I'm gonna go. Tom Bergeron, who is the host of Dancing with the Stars but hosted like Hollywood Squares, has such a rich history of doing game shows and talk shows. Was always so nice. We got into a little tiff way later. But he was amazing. Still is amazing. I'm gonna go. Tom Bergeron. One of my best friends in the industry now is Charlamagne Tha God who's killing it. And that's a guy that I hit up constantly for. Hey, what do you think about this? It's really the only person in my whole career that I've been able to do that with. And he does to me. So it's very much a respect thing. But he completely lives up to the hype. Is like one of the best. Lionel Richie, good one. Greatest guy ever. Worked with him on American Idol for four years. Wondered because it'd been about three years since I had seen him or talked to him at all. And he was doing a show and we went backstage and he saw me immediately and knew who I was. And I was like, dang. Lionel remembers. And then we did some stuff after that. That's four. I gotta pick one more. In my career, there's only one person that ever gave me money, advice.
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Ryan.
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Ryan Seacrest. And it was never that we were that close. I hit him up twice, asking questions because we weren't in the same place often, unless it was the live show, and then it's just hectic. But we were in Hawaii, and he came up and he was like, hey, want to make sure you're doing the right thing? And he was like, abcd, this is what you should do with your money. Not put it somewhere, but, like, make sure you're protected. I thought that was super cool. So, yeah, I'm going to go Seacrest as my number five. Not another way. Yeah. Now that we had a close friendship. But he. It didn't. It didn't matter. Like, he was still cool about that. All right. Four. Four cities your job took you that you could actually see yourself living in that you haven't lived.
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That I have not lived.
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Can't have lived there.
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Okay. Seattle.
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Why?
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I just thought it was a cool vibe. The. The city. The mountains are right there. You got the lake right there. Awesome. Miami, for obvious reasons.
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Do you play the Dolphins down there?
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No, I would play the Dolphins down there.
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Would you guys look forward to that trip?
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We would. Unless it's the start of the season. The star of season was miserable down there. It was so hot. You just felt like you were out here right now, where you walk out and you just start sweating. You gotta change your pants at halftime. It was miserable. But I also used to go to Fort Lauderdale all the time as a kid because my grandparents had a place down there. So I'd go down there and stay for two, three weeks.
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So it was so hot, you guys would change pants.
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You'd have to, because you're soaked through them.
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So you would take double pants to every game or just because you knew if it was super.
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Usually the equipment people would usually use bring a second pair of a pants, a jersey if it gets ripped. Anything for every player. They're on top of it. So, yeah, it was that miserable. Let's see. Where else would I see myself that I haven't lived? I guess I could try out New York, you know, jets or Giants, and live in New Jersey and do that thing with the city right there. That would be pretty. Pretty fun.
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Oh, so to you it's never live in the city for a minute?
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Not with my dynamic, no. But if I was Younger, without kids and stuff like that. Yes, but.
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Got it.
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That's living in a city with five kids. There's no way I'm doing that. Gosh, Arizona seems like it get really
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hot, but imagine the pants. You got to change through there. Just living.
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Seriously, just living. But it's a dry heat. It's dry heat. Really good golf courses, good communities out there. Yeah, all true. All true. And let me see. I mean, I lived in Dallas, so I couldn't do that. What's another city? Where could you see me? What kind of vibe am I getting?
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Would you ever want to go to Hawaii and live?
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You sit in a. Oh, I could live anywhere. Not a. I thought you meant like a football city.
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No. I mean, yeah, but if you don't have a football. Been to Hawaii. For what?
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For work. I've been to Hawaii.
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Was the Pro Bowl Hawaii?
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Yes.
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Did you go?
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Yes.
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Okay. That counts.
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Oh, yeah.
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If you want it to be Hawaii.
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All right. Yeah. I'd live in Hawaii for sure. Thanks for taking me there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay.
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The four I'm gonna pick are gonna be Boston. I love Boston. Except in the winter. The Die Hard. When it's winter. Winter, it hurts.
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It's a great city, though.
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I love it anytime it is not just blistering cold that. I'm going to put Chicago there, too. Same.
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Yeah, Chicago's a great city.
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Such a great city. Except when it is so God dang cold.
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And it's cold for a long time, too.
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I hate cold. So I'm going to put those two there because I love just being in both of those. I think it would be fun to live in Bozeman, Montana. I shot Breaking Bobby Bones up there, and it was super cool. Just be fun to, like, live there for a little bit. I don't know. The WI FI wasn't super strong, so that would be a negative. So.
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I think it's beautiful country, isn't it?
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Yeah, it's really, really nice.
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So scenic and just.
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And then I think maybe L. A just because of work. Like, there's. So probably L. A. Yeah.
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L. A. L A. S. I could have picked L. A. Huh? You.
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But you grew up there.
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I know.
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So you can't. Because you lived there.
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Shoot.
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Yeah. Yeah. So you couldn't have San Diego. Fair enough. Yeah.
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Oh, well, I'm going San Diego. Take a walk.
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No, no, no, no. You've already committed. You've already bought houses in all four places.
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Fine, fine, fine.
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All right. Number three. Three career moments that changed everything for you.
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Number one, when I decided to go out probably for the pro day when everybody was telling me no. And I just gave myself a shot at usc. At usc, because if I don't go out, then nobody's picking me up or not. I'm not even getting looked at. So I trusted my instinct, number two, career defining 100%. When Tom went down in that first game and went in and we ended up winning that game. And I think another career defining moment was probably later that season after my dad died. That came in through, worked through the adversity and had a great game, played well. But that kind of catapulted me into a different stratosphere of guy that's just stepping in and playing decently well to guy that's consistently playing well throughout the entire season. That set me up for the rest of my career.
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I think number one for me is going to be I was doing a morning show just in Austin, Texas, and I learned about this technology and I didn't have much money, but I spent 2,800 bucks on this piece of equipment, thinking I could syndicate my own show with this one piece of equipment and it wasn't used for that. And I remember spending the money on that and going, man, I may be wasting $3,000 and I don't have $3,000 to waste. And so just buying that because then I was committed.
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Yeah.
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And hustling my first station so that. Just buying that piece of equipment. I remember doing that and just going, oh, man, once I buy this, like, I have to make my money back. And that is what I won't say motivated because it was already there, but I felt bound to getting a show to be syndicated, a city to be syndicated to, which then created all the syndication that I did early on in my career. So just purchasing that is number one,
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that one item that.
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And if it had been 50 bucks. Yeah, who knows? I might have thought as 50 bucks. It may not. Well, who cares? Maybe I won't work so hard at figuring it out and. But because it was $3,000, like, I got to figure this out. I got to make this work, get this money back. Tyler redick here from 2311 Racing, Victory Lane. Yeah, it's even better with Chumba by my side. Race to chumbacasino.com let's Chumba. No purchase necessary VTW Group void where prohibited by law. CTNCs21+ sponsored by Chumba Casino. Number two is going to be probably the first time that I danced on Dancing with the Stars because I'd never completed a single Dance and workout. Like we've trained for weeks. I never finished it and I feel like I will always put in the preparation.
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Always.
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And usually there's a payoff, Right. If I just put in the work, more times than not there's going to be a payoff. And because I don't feel like I'm an under the lights guy, but I feel like by the time I get under the lights, I'm going to be ready to be under the lights.
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Right.
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Because some guys will just go, no, I'm more of an under the lights guy.
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Yeah.
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You just don't want gamer.
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Yeah.
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You don't want to practice for sure. And I think I'm a gamer, but only because I've been a practicer.
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Right.
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So I never made it work. And I was nervous. I was so nervous on that first national TV dance. Never done it. And I finished it the first time ever on. And they gave me a bunch of confidence to do that there. So that's too. And then I think just committing to move to Nashville because I had to give up the entire company that I had built and take a risk on moving here because I couldn't go back. Because once I left all the stations and sold all my equipment, they had already hired new people. So I couldn't just go back to my top 40 stations, my hip hop stations.
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Did you know that there was something waiting here for you?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I basically made it happen. But it was so odd for them to allow me to come here because I was so different than anything that had ever been in country music before.
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Right.
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Because I don't wear a cowboy hat or belt buckle or. I still wanted to play like 90s hip hop on country station. It was just, it was so weird. And so it was a big risk, but one I was willing to take. But I remember going, man, right. When I commit to this, it was like buying that piece of equipment. I can't go back.
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Right.
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Because all that back is gone. So I would say those three probably for me. Number two. Two career opportunities you almost took, but you didn't.
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Two career opportunities I almost took, but I didn't. Well, I got traded from New England. That was a career opportunity.
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Did you ever almost sign somewhere and then decide maybe this isn't for me?
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It was between Minnesota and Tampa Bay when I became a free agent from the Chiefs. So that's. I don't look back at it and go, that was a bad decision because I had some success in Minnesota and actually really enjoyed my time there. So I don't look. But the one that I think I would definitely regret was when the season after I broke my foot in Minnesota, I was coming off a major injury and my agent and I were having these conversations and this is when Rex Ryan got hired in Buffalo and he was convincing me that I could go there, start and once again be a full time starter and do all this stuff. I was really comfortable in Minnesota. I like the gm, I like the coaching staff and I thought, gosh, I get. I guess I kind of had. It took some convincing and so I decided that I was going to go to Buffalo. Well, they brought in Tyrod Taylor, EJ Manuel was there, we all competed and then they decided that they're going to go with Tyrod Taylor. So I was still backup. But then that's then got me trading Week 2 to Dallas and I just kind of regret that whole process because I could have stayed in Minnesota, been a guy that's backs up Bridgewater, but then Bridgewater gets hurt a year later and the next guy's playing anyway. So you sometimes look back at circumstances which you can never sit there and predict that something like that would happen. But at the same time, I think without all the stress of moving to Buffalo, my wife being pregnant, moving to Dallas, going there for a gun for hire for the rest of the season and becoming a free agent, I would have rather stayed with Minnesota.
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I don't think it has to be something you regret. It can just be something you chose not to do.
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Well, I chose not to stay in Minnesota.
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All right, you got one more. It doesn't have to be even NFL.
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I'm trying to think of career opportunities after that. I haven't truly tried to pursue with a want and not out of a need, but out of a want. And normally if I put my mind to something that I'll pursue it, whether it's going into, you know, media after and going and covering the Patriots. I don't regret that going into college football. Don't regret that. I think that there's not many opportunities that I've sat there and turned down where I wasn't fully invested in it and wanted to do it.
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Did you ever almost coach at all?
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There was a lot of discussion after I got done because there was a lot of interest and also with my relationships to go to multiple different places to be a coach. But at the end of the day I felt like after 14 years of playing and being in numerous cities near the tail end of my career that it was fair to give my kids an opportunity to be stabilized in one city versus going right in. I just felt like it would be a little bit selfish.
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That's an opportunity to take.
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Yeah, that's an opportunity to take.
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I turned down a judge spot on the Masked Singer.
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Oh, that would have been big.
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Yeah. But it was either take American Idol and Dancing with the Stars.
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Yeah, I was. Yeah.
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Who knows? And that show wasn't a real show. It was just a show that was. I. I think maybe it was South Korea. And so there's like, we have this idea, do you want to be a judge? And I did. But at the same time, Disney, ABC was offering me American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, so I did that instead.
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It's probably a good decision.
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Who knows?
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Good relationships, too.
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Yeah, for sure. So that's one. And then a career opportunity I almost took but didn't was about a year and a half or so ago. Again, I had a pretty lucrative offer to write another book, and I just don't have it in me.
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Come on, we could.
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I know I really flirted with your ghostwriter. I know I really flirted with it because it was a substantial amount of money, but I just don't want to chase things for money. Never have. Especially don't need to now, but I just never have. But I really thought about it, and I told my wife, I said, do I want to write another book? And she goes, no. I said, okay, you're right.
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After you write two books, how much more material can you come up with to write that next chapter?
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It's not so much about coming up with material because I have to come up with hours and hours of material every week to talk about stuff. My second book just wasn't as much about my life. It was more my perspective and thoughts outward, more so than the story of my life inward. So it would have just been another book like that.
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Got it.
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And what they wanted me to do is write a book that was like my quintessential book for if I do decide to run for office, this is the book that you need to read.
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Dude, let's go.
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No, not let's go. But I didn't take that. I didn't take that. Take that. Number one final one. One accomplishment. You're proudest of.
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One accomplishment. I'm proudest of probably my kids. I mean, I feel like they're accomplishments because they're creations by my wife and I, and they're all amazing kids. And every day I wake up and I get to see them and be around them and, you know, I'm blessed to be. Be fortunate enough to where my job is usually seasonal and I get to be. Watch them grow up. So that's an accomplishment that just keeps giving back.
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I think for me it was. I'm not going to pick family. You've already covered that one, so I'm not. It'd be cheater. You definitely went first and got the definitely first round draft pick there. I. When I. I was able to buy my mom, like 2 acres land in a trailer when I first made money and was like able to move her somewhere better. And so that was. I was super proud of that. And when I got my teeth.
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What do you mean, your teeth? Let me see.
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I had terrible teeth and we never went to the dentist, so I didn't go to the dentist until my 20s. Yeah. And so when I could afford to get teeth. These are all fake.
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They look great.
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Yeah.
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Supernatural.
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Yeah.
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Let me see your teeth. Before, were you snaggletoothing?
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Worse.
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Worse. Worse. Dude. Yeah.
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Yeah. They were all different directions, so you were straight on.
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Hi. Here, honey.
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What's wrong with you? Straight Arkansas. Yeah, you're right, though. You're right there. All right, whatever. Man. This time it is hotter in here. It's hot. It's hot. When it is like around July. What are you doing if you're going into the season? Like what, let's say August 1st, like, what's happening with the NFL players?
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So August 1st, getting ready to go into camp? Sure.
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It's just August 1st. You're about to go in. Like, what's happening around the 1st of August for every NFL player? Right.
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Everybody's ramping up and so you're getting your mindset and all that stuff. You've been probably working out for multiple weeks at this point. You had your little, you know, little break right after mini camp ended. You might get away for a little bit, but then it's kind of, you know, that, look, there's light at the end of tunnel. We're about to hit camp.
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Do you want to hit camp?
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I'm ready to hit camp. Because, you know, the season's right around the corner. So you've. You're mentally preparing. You're. You're checking off all your lists for family. If you've moved or done anything like that, you're making sure that's all handled so that it's not hectic when you're getting into season. And then when you go into camp, obviously you've got to be prepared physically for your. Your run that they do. You know, your Conditioning test, so to speak. And so you, the last thing you want to do is show up out of shape. It just sets the wrong tone. And as a quarterback, you kind of want to show off a little bit at that point. Like I've been working, I'm ready. And then I always enjoyed camp because you're in the hotel, you're staying, you're not going home, but every day you're just trying to make a little bit of progress and you're starting to find out more about your team. Because every year there's changes, wholesale changes at times and then other times it's might be minor, but you've got new players. How are we going to come together? Chemistry. If it's a new coaching staff, you really want to get in there and start to understand philosophy. Be with them on a day to day basis and it's all about ball. And that's the only time of the year where you don't have any of the other. Just general distractions of life, whether it's family or friends or this, that and the other because you're locked in for that, whatever it is. Two week process of being in camp and I used to love it because it was just a time to get really amped up to get rock and roll.
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Some guys hate camp.
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Some guys hate camp.
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Is it mostly the veterans?
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Mostly the veterans. Salty. Just don't want, they want to sleep in their own bed. You know when you, when you're staying at a hotel or maybe you have to go to a dorm like we did in Kansas City, we're staying at college. You're sitting there and these big dudes on these beds, they're, they're just uncomfortable. It's not, you're not familiar with your surroundings. It's a little bit different. So there are definitely people that would rather go home every night and sleep in their own bed.
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If you're a multi millionaire ball player and now all of a sudden you're having to live in a dorm and eat dorm food, is it common for people to be a bit grumpy about that?
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It's very common. That's very common. But then again, you wait until you see some of these guys and what they bring to these dorm rooms, right? Some guys will get their own bed shipped in. They've got the fan, they'll have their nutritionist that makes the meals for them and drops off the meals. You've got every different walk of life in terms of trying to make them as comfortable as possible. You've got all the normatex going on. One guy, I think it was Kyle Rudolph, had the oxygen chamber that he would like lay down to sleep in because he thought it helped with. You see some wild gadgets when you're at camp.
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Can you have your people come to camp?
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Well, there's masseuse is usually now they hire masseuse's for camp that you go in, you get. Might may get a 20, 30 minute, but you got to sign up. Veterans get obviously first access to those.
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But you can't bring like your team, like your, your, your assistant, your.
B
No, like a day off though. Like you can have your masseuse that usually works on you. Come and work on you at the facility. They just put you out in the middle of the indoor facility and you're sitting there with a sheet around you like, and they're. They're working on you that way.
A
Dang.
B
Yeah, it's wild.
A
I wish there was pickleball camp.
B
I bet you'd be, you'd be into that, right?
A
I. I crave, like competing.
B
I can see that. Like I saw your eyes light up. I agree. I don't think it was just when you looked into his eyes.
A
I really crave competing just in general. And my ankle was out. Like I just. And not even just like, I hate running. I like to play against people. I like to train for something. I like to practice something, get good at it and see if it pays off.
B
Were you playing any more tournaments, you think?
A
Probably.
B
I hope somebody heckles you again like they did like the first season that we had when the guy was hitting, hitting you up, talking smack to you and you're like, you want to. You want to play?
A
Yeah. And then he backed out.
B
Yeah, he backed out.
A
I said, I'll play for money and I'll fly up there. We were going to fly to Ohio to play him after he talked. I forgot all about that.
B
That was one of my favorite stories ever. You were so hot.
A
He was just talking garbage. And I said, okay, I'll bring a thousand bucks. I'll come to you. I'll play for $1,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Give us a date. We'll be there. Oh, I don't know, man. I forgot all about that. What a loser.
B
That was awesome.
A
Top three quarterbacks right now?
B
Top three. Well, Josh Allen, obviously you're going to
A
go one Josh Allen. Is it only because Patrick Mahomes is hurt?
B
Yes.
A
Okay. What if Patrick Mahomes is healthy? Is it still Josh Allen?
B
I'm still going Josh Allen.
A
Okay. I'm going Patrick Mahomes, go ahead and are we just flipping two. Are you putting my homes two. And I'm putting Alan, too.
B
Yeah, I'll put my homes too. I still. It'll be an interesting year. I really do believe that just this early on this season as he'll be fully recovered. I'm sure we've talked about that, but there's something about just getting back in the field of the football mode, of getting hit and doing all that when you have a major knee injury like that. And I think that was the first of his career. Now, he's dealt with injuries before, but this was a major setback. And also late in the season, remove injuries.
A
Who's three.
B
Removing injuries. Oh, Matt Stafford.
A
That's a good pick.
B
Yep. Matt Stafford, the reigning mvp. I probably could have put him. I mean, with those three guys right there, Matt Safford's deserving of to be in the top three. If not, he could be considered number one right now with how he was playing last year.
A
I just keep waiting for Father time.
B
I know Matt and I've been around him. He's one of those guys that works, and he's in incredible shape, and he takes care of his body and does all that. His arm talent is second to none. Like, it's unbelievable.
A
I like to put Burrow at three, but you can convince I was gonna be Stafford at 4. You know what? I'm keeping it that way.
B
Who?
A
Burrow at three?
B
Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think Burrow's unbelievable. I think he's the biggest issue with him has always been his injury history. And I think the other part of this is when you look at the talent level on both these rosters, I think Stafford and Burrow probably have the better grouping of wide receivers. You could make an argument that the Rams and the Bengals have the best duo of wide receivers in the league.
A
It's now time for situational awareness. Question to you. Number one. Your wife schedules a family picture day during championship Sunday. You know, AFC NFC championships, But you schedule some pictures. Do you tell her to reschedule?
B
You know, I know my wife, and once she scheduled something, it was three months in advance, in which I had no idea that it was even on the calendar. And she's like, I put it on the calendar, and I don't know the calendar until maybe a day before. And even then I'll be like, what do we got today?
A
Do you not have a calendar?
B
I 100% have a calendar. And she puts all the stuff on. She used to be the old School, write out everything on the calendar. I was like, honey, we have calendars right here. So instead of walking into the same room and trying to look at the calendar, I said, it's. It's on the phone. I'm not great at it. I'm not great at keeping up on the calendar every now and then, so.
A
But it's on your phone, right?
B
It is, but I don't know, three months ago that she booked this thing and put it on there. So then all of a sudden, I'd probably look at it and I'd be, oh, my God, we have. We. We have pictures. Family pictures. This Sunday, huh, honey? You know it's championship Sunday. She's like, I've had it on the calendar for three months. You knew it was gonna happen. And I just have to bite my lip, go out there and get it done.
A
Because that's a little on you, 100%.
B
But it's also a little on her. She should have known it's a Sunday. But that's probably the only time we had to do. Don't kid yourself. We've taken family photos for Christmas in September when it's 90 degrees out and we're wearing sweaters. My comb over looks awful. I've sweating profusely. All the kids are sweating. They're hating their life. Like, oh, my God, it's so hot. But we're dressed in Christmas outfits, okay? So I know the pains of getting a family, like, family photos done for Christmas because it could be months out in advance, and it's. I literally have been out there just sweating profusely, just going, oh, my God, this needs to get over. So family photos is the thing.
A
So you just do them.
B
I just do them. You can't complain about them. The kids will complain enough, and then they'll start fighting. It's awesome. And then everybody's got to have their own, too. As the girls get older and stuff like that, they're going to sit there and have an opinion on which picture they like the most when they all come back. No, I don't like that one. We can't put that one. And I don't look. This angle doesn't look good. It's hilarious. I was like, I don't even care. This year was the best Christmas card we sent out, because guess what? Everybody was at the USC game at the end of the year. I had the photographer on the sideline take a picture, send it to me, and I said, hey, this is what we're sending out. And she did. Normally, she wouldn't do that. We're gonna do the formalize. And it was the best one. Super simple, no stress. We didn't have to sit there for two hours getting different angles. It was great.
A
Was that the picture you put on Instagram?
B
Probably.
A
It was a great one.
B
Yeah, it was. All of us at the USC game. It was fantastic.
A
That's cool.
B
All right. A casual friend keeps asking you for career advice and never follows any of it. Do you keep helping them?
A
No, no. I'm happy to lend advice and they don't have to follow it, but why would you keep asking it if you're not going to follow it? I mean, unless you're George costanzing me and everything I say you're doing the opposite on purpose. I'm happy to help anybody, even if it's not my friend. But if you continue to come and ask for advice and then you don't use any of it, why are you wasting your own time?
B
Do you ever. Would you ever confront them? Be like, bro, I've tried to help you multiple times, and I've given you exactly what I think you should do in order to be successful.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
But you don't listen to it, so don't ask me ever again?
A
I wouldn't say that last part.
B
You might.
A
But I would say, are you coming to me seven times and I'm telling you everything I possibly can tell you, and you don't have to do all of it because I think everybody's situation and environment is different. However, why do you keep coming to me if you're not gonna listen? That's what I would wonder. Like, you're wasting your own time. I can give you other people you can talk to that could help you, like, if you don't like it, like, what's up? So, yeah, I definitely would. It wouldn't be in any sort of aggressive way, but. Yeah. Yeah, but also, like, I'm happy to help, but about the fourth time you ask, why are you asking if you're not using it?
B
If you let it get to the fourth time, then you just have to bust out. You can pounce out.
A
I just don't know why you would keep asking. I don't have all the answers. But if you know my answers are wrong, why keep asking? That's what I would say.
B
Yeah, it's fair.
A
A family member you haven't seen in a decade is in town and asks you for free tickets to a Titans game. And good ones. Can you make a call? What do you do?
B
Depends on the relationship. 12 years. So it would have to be somebody that I've definitely been in contact with and family member or somebody like that, maybe, maybe a close friend from back in the day. But if I haven't had a relationship, a true relationship where there's some type of communication going on for an extended period of time, be pretty hard pressed to even return the, return the phone call if they called out of the blue and be like, hey, Cass, I know we haven't seen each other in a long time. Any way you'd give me some really good Titans ticket? Can you make a phone call? I'll be like, no, I'm going to text you after the game.
A
Call Bobby for career advice. I can send them over here. Do you get that a decent amount even from people that you know every now and then.
B
But normally they are people that I'm very close to and they'll ask, hey, do you know anybody here? They don't blatantly ask for tickets. Now when I was playing and I was coming to town and they were in the town that I was playing, I'd be more than willing to get them family members, whatever it is, tickets to come to the game. But for the most part, I don't get a lot of people that just are so upfront and be like, dude, can you give me some free tickets to this? No, I can maybe make a phone call and put you in contact with somebody that might be. Give you a wholesale or whatever it might be for a concert ticket. I'm guessing you get hit up a lot.
A
Two levels. The first level is instances, like I asked you that question, where I don't even really know the person that well or haven't seen them in forever. And they go, I'll give you an example without saying the name. There is a Division 1 basketball coach, nothing to do with Arkansas. I never talk to him.
B
What's. How do you know them? How do you know him?
A
If I say it, it'll. It'll reveal it. I can tell you.
B
Then don't, don't reveal it.
A
So he hits me up and he says, hey, do you know Luke Combs? And at first I'm thinking, do you just know Luke Combs? Is he a nice guy type thing? Maybe Luke Combs is up there.
B
Maybe he's going to bring him talk to the team.
A
And I'm like, yeah, I know Luke Holmes. He's a great guy. I love him. He's like, can you give me backstage passes? Because they're coming up.
B
Backstage passes is like such a big deal.
A
And I didn't. I didn't know.
B
I've got no access.
A
It's not even that. It's. I didn't lie and say I don't have access. I said, can you get me tickets, Luke? I said, I think I did lie, now that I think about it. Yeah, I lied. I think I said, it's a little too late for me to ask for anything like that because it was, like, two days before the show. In reality, could I have texted Luke or Cappy as manager, for sure. But I don't have a relationship with that guy.
B
Yeah, you don't know how he's going
A
to act on stage. Or even a business relationship where it was. Where that was a no. Or people from college that didn't even know, hey, can I get concert tickets? But then there are examples of. I'm quite close to the head football coach at Purdue, Barry Odom. Love them. Love his family. He was coming to town, it was his daughter's birthday, and he was like, hey, we're going to the Opry. Is there anything that we should know at the Opry? And I say, yeah, I will meet you there, and I'll take you backstage, and you can go meet Lani Wilson for your daughter's birthday. And that's what we did.
B
Pretty nice. So you really like Barry? Yes, yes.
A
Obviously, we text and he's a friend, and so I will run through fire if it's, like, somebody that I care about and. Or somebody that I know, I could call and they would, like, have my back. Whatever you want. You want to make Aluke Holmes? I'll set it up. If Coach Odom wanted to make out, you know what? We'll make it happen. But that's all based on our relationship.
B
It's a relationship thing. You're willing to bend over backwards for the people that you know and that actually genuinely care about you versus somebody that's just looking for a free handout.
A
Especially when people know that I'm close to people I am quite close to. Ronnie Dunn from Brooks and Dunn. Like, close family friend. And so there'll be random people that hit me up, hey, can you set me up with Brooks and Dunn? Can I go meet them? It just puts me in an awkward place.
B
Does everybody that you talk to always want to go meet the artist?
A
Yes. Yes, for the most part.
B
Oh, so they want, like, the exclusive access.
A
For the most part, it's, hey, can you hook me up? I'd like to. Can I do get a backstage pass or something?
B
It's never like hey, can you give me the nosebleeds at Nissan?
A
It's never a once been. Can you give me nosebleeds ever? Yeah, Never. Occasionally it's, can you give me like, I had a guy hit me up from Morgan Wallen. Took us once. Now, this was different because I had a brand deal with a golf company for a long time, and he was so generous with that deal.
B
Right.
A
And he hit me up and he said, hey, do you know a way I can get Morgan Wallen tickets? And I know what that means. He just didn't want to put it on me. On me. But he wanted it. And I was like, got you hooked him up. Morgan Wallen tickets. It's rarely tickets, so it's usually like, experiences, right? Yeah. So good to know. Next one.
B
Make a phone call.
A
You get. You can call me about anything.
B
See, I'm not.
A
You want to make that with Luke Combs? I will make it happen. You definitely have that.
B
I want to smell his shoes.
A
You got it.
B
All right. You're stuck sitting next to someone on a flight who recognizes you and wants to talk the entire time. We're Talking about a six hour flight, bro. What's the play?
A
Put AirPods in and fall asleep. That's the play. It's happened before. Southwest has happened. I sit on the window. There's a middle school.
B
Last time you flew Southwest. Let's. Let's stop trying to adhere to our audience. Anyway, you were on sales.
A
Great question. Yeah, probably ten years ago, a month and a half ago, flying to West Palm.
B
Okay.
A
Flew down because I had a little speaking engagement. I'm not too good. I'm also not stupid. If I can get connected and I don't have to. Am not in a hurry. I'm not wasting the money on a private flight. Do I fly private a decent amount? Yeah.
B
But that's because of your work.
A
Yes. If I have to get somewhere, do something and get back, or do some. Or have something in the morning and get back. Yes. That is something that I didn't really do a lot until my business manager, who is very conservative, said, you're going to kill yourself.
B
Right.
A
So you need to utilize this occasionally. So. Yes, I do. But I do fly Southwest. You need to watch your mouth.
B
What do you look like walking through the airport, by the way? You got like, hat down, hoodie on, sunglasses, scarf.
A
Are you trying to complete that?
B
Dude, your voice comes on at the airport. Hey, this is Bobby Bones. What are you talking about? Everybody at the airport's walking through and hearing, hey, this is Bobby Bones.
A
I'm usually in, like, full sweats because I'm going to try to sleep. And I do have a hat on and rarely sunglasses. No, I'm not famous like that at all. I usually do have a few people that say I take pictures. And that's fine. It's wonderfully fine. I will get on the plane. It only happens on Southwest, and if there's a middle seat open and it's one of the last seats because it used to be where you could sit wherever you wanted. Now, now it's not. And people would sit down and it's delightful for the first 15 or 20 minutes. Love it. But there have been instances where people just want to keep going or I see them, like, looking at my phone or trying, and then it's okay. AirPods in and then I'll fake asleep. That's why I wear a hoodie, though, too.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Can't really see the face.
B
But then the worst part is if you want to, like, watch a show or something like that, maybe you download it and you're sitting there going, yeah, it's all.
A
All podcasts.
B
Don't talk to me.
A
It's all podcasts. Yeah, But I'm not DiCaprio.
B
I don't know. Your hair's starting to get to my hair. Yeah.
A
Yeah, Good point.
B
About same stylist.
A
Final question for you. You're golfing with someone who keeps finding finger quotes his ball in a better spot. Do you say anything?
B
Oh, I'll call anybody out. I don't care. But I've got a sense of humor, too. Like, I don't take golf too seriously to where I truly care. If somebody terrible lie that I've just started playing with, I'll just say it. Hey, just put it. Move it out of there. I'm not going to be a sport.
A
They lost it. The ball's gone. All of a sudden, they find it, and you guys are. It's whole 17. It's. It's neck and neck.
B
Oh, yeah. I'd call him out.
A
Yeah, I know.
B
I was like, bro, you get the ball out of bounds. What are you talking about? And I'd make him explain himself. No, I found. I found it. And then if he. If he continues to lie, I'll just be like, all right, that's on you. I'm not going to aggressively go after somebody because they're cheating.
A
Do you ever gamble playing golf?
B
Oh, I'm low stakes, bro. I know my golf game's not good enough to where I've. To where I can compete at that level and have a fair chance of winning, even with my handicap. When you're playing good competition. I've been in a few rounds before where there's some head honcho that thinks that they're the big dog. And he's like, hey, let's do a thousand bucks a hole, you guys versus us. And I'm like, okay, bro. So stupid.
A
But, you know, let's say five bucks a hole. You and I want to play. Let's play five bucks a hole. But you would do that 100. Okay.
B
I would even do 10, 15, 20. Hey.
A
Oh, wow.
B
To make it a little interesting, we
A
get a multi million dollar deal. We can Google it, we can see it.
B
Let's be honest. That's still. You win a few holes here, win a few hole, lose a few holes. It's. At the end of the day, you're not really exchanging that much money.
A
You lifted the stats at five bucks to give you a shot.
B
Look, I always put some money in my back pocket when I go to the golf course just in case somebody wants to have a small game. And most people that play with me understand I'm not. It's for the entertainment of it, Right? It's not.
A
Castle hits the ball a mile.
B
Too bad. I also hit it in different directions a mile, too.
A
All right, last one.
B
Last one. A friend invites you to a football game, then hits you with a Venmo request to pay for your own ticket the next day.
A
I do pay it, but then I'm just aware next time, then you hate
B
him and not going to anything.
A
Well, if I'm invited, and I don't think if I'm invited, first of all, it's all taken care of. But if I'm invited and I go and I experience and nothing is ever said about money, then I do think, oh, I got invited in. They're covering it. But if I said, hey, we should go do this. Tickets are 60 bucks. You want to go. That's different. And I'm happy to pay, but that's weird to be invited, go through the entire experience and then get a Venmo without it ever being discussed. Yes, I'll pay it, but I'm just gonna know next time what that's about. I'm probably gonna think a tenth of a less of the less of them in general as well, but I get it. But I won't. I won't do that. I'm not going to. I'm not going to the games with
B
anybody who would do that. Actually, what person would do that.
A
I've heard stories of, speaking of flying private, of people that will invite people to fly with them places.
B
Right.
A
And then say, hey, you can fly with us. And that's all that said. And then send them a bill.
B
No way.
A
And the person's going, you asked me if I wanted to fly with you. I just thought we were going the same place and you were being nice.
B
100.
A
And they send them a bill for, like, their fraction of that flight. Yeah.
B
And. And because you did get to experience flying private, and it probably was an amazing experience, but then when you get
A
the bill and you're going, oh, it's not worth it. Sucks if you didn't plan it.
B
I didn't want to go. I didn't want to go. It wasn't worth it. How am I going to explain this to my wife?
A
Because you never had the plan to. Someone was like, hey, you hop on. You can just fly with us. And then you get a bill for it.
B
That's. That's a little scandalous right there.
A
I've heard of that happening.
B
Wow.
A
By the way, Bobby, I'm going to pay you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
B
Yeah, me too. Dude, that must have got lost in the email.
A
What if I would have hit you up because we flew to New York? I was like, hey, dude, I'll get the flight. Don't worry about it. But I hit you up with a bill.
B
I would have paid it, but then you'd have been like, I can't wait to talk about this broadcast and rip Bobby a new one.
A
Okay. That is situational awareness. That's going to do it for us. That's Matt Castle. That's Kickoff. Kevin. That's Brandon Ray and Bobby Bones. Thank you guys for listening.
B
Always.
A
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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show — “Lots to Say: Best Uniforms, Career Moments, Top QBs, and Ticket Requests!” (July 29, 2026)
In this lively episode of “The Bobby Bones Show,” hosts Bobby Bones and former NFL quarterback Matt Cassel trade stories, rankings, and opinions on everything from football uniforms to pivotal career decisions, top NFL quarterbacks, personal accomplishments, and even the awkwardness of ticket requests. Their conversations blend humor, nostalgia, and real-life lessons, offering a behind-the-scenes peek into both sports and show business.
The episode is casual, humorous, and conversational, featuring friendly ribbing and down-to-earth reflections from both hosts. They toggle between sports analysis and relatable life anecdotes, offering a feel-good, accessible chat for anyone who’s been on either side of a favor request—or just wants to know which NFL cities and uniforms are truly the best.
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